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Speaker 1: EV betting is not about being right more often, but

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Speaker 1: about betting when the odds are in your favor. Expected

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Speaker 1: value equals long term profit. Welcome into betting pros. I'm

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Speaker 1: Seth Wilcock, and today I'm joined by the host of

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Speaker 1: the Daily Juice podcast, Matt Perrault, to tell you how

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Speaker 1: to make money EV betting. Matt, great to be back

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Speaker 1: with you today, And if you were stopped on the street,

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Speaker 1: how would you be defining EV betting?

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Speaker 2: Good to see you, Good to be back. Look, this

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Speaker 2: is a topic that I think so many people struggle

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Speaker 2: with because EV is just the odds are in your favor,

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Speaker 2: and if you bet more often, if you bet over

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Speaker 2: the course of well, like the Daily Juice which is

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Speaker 2: every day, three hundred and sixty five days a year,

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Speaker 2: you want to be betting into markets and prices that

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Speaker 2: are in your favor. Meaning if you can go and

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Speaker 2: find a price and let's just say you're going to

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Speaker 2: go and buy a loaf of bread, and a loaf

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Speaker 2: of bread at XYZ Supermarket is a dollar ten where

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Speaker 2: the local maybe around the corner is selling it for

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Speaker 2: a dollar thirty. You want to buy the one ten.

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Speaker 2: You want to be getting yourself the best price and

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Speaker 2: the best opportunity to make money long terms. This is

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Speaker 2: I love this approach. EVE betting to me is super

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Speaker 2: important because it's about the longevity of it. Yes, it's

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Speaker 2: not about us a quick fix. It's about being able

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Speaker 2: to bet over a long period of time and to

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Speaker 2: be in the positive for your expected value.

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Speaker 1: And that's a great way to explain it, Matt. And

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Speaker 1: before we jump in any further, just want to shout

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Speaker 1: always coming your way. And now let's go ahead and

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Speaker 1: jump in how to find these EV bets and starts

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Speaker 1: with not betting just based on hunches and instead betting

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Speaker 1: based on value plus EV means positive expected value, and

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Speaker 1: finding it is actually a lot easier than most people

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Speaker 1: might think. Let's start on the market. Miss pricing books

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Speaker 1: are often opening up lines early, but they're not always

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Speaker 1: efficient when doing so. Sometimes they miss. Sometimes the markets

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Speaker 1: react slowly. That's where the edge lies, Matt, do you

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Speaker 1: have any examples of this that you can share for

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Speaker 1: us when it comes to market miss pricing.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think if you bet the NBA, and you

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Speaker 2: bet the NBA all year, you know that if you

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Speaker 2: bet overnight, you were oftentimes going to see numbers on

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Speaker 2: the night before that do not exist the next morning.

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Speaker 2: So yes, let's just play it out on Friday night.

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Speaker 2: There's a game on Saturday. Say it's a one o'clock

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Speaker 2: More often than not, the book's gonna put up a

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Speaker 2: minus four, minus five. They're gonna put it up because

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Speaker 2: they're gonna wait for the market to react and hammer

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Speaker 2: that number into a sharper. That's where the term sharp

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Speaker 2: the ones sharpening the number, if you will. And maybe

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Speaker 2: the right number is minus six and a half, but

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Speaker 2: the book puts up four, So you're going to see

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Speaker 2: The book is always trying to find where will the

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Speaker 2: trying to find the dog price because everyone knows the

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Speaker 2: So what number do we got to get to until

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Speaker 2: we get a max play on that dog? So we're

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Speaker 2: trying to bet if we're like the favorite, we want four.

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Speaker 1: And would you say that also translates into football betting,

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Speaker 1: whether that's the NFL or college football that win these

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Speaker 2: Yeah. The problem with this is that the books now

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Speaker 2: just put those numbers up so far in advance that oftentimes,

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Speaker 2: like I've already bet the Iowa Iowa State game because

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Speaker 2: then take the dog at plus three whenever it gets there,

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Speaker 2: because that's what number. That number is going to be

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Speaker 2: of experience, you know where it's going to be eventually.

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Speaker 2: So to me, I think it has a lot to

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Speaker 2: when are you betting it. Football is a bit different

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Speaker 2: So the line can become more stale in football than

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Speaker 2: because the games are more turned over quicker.

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Speaker 1: Well. The other great thing about the Betting pros app

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Speaker 1: and the website as well is we have different odds

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Speaker 1: really look, Hey, one book might be thrown out a

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Speaker 1: but Fandle's consistently thrown out, you know, ten to one,

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Speaker 1: ev betting is an injury or news lag. When breaking

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Speaker 2: Yeah, be real careful to not overreact, because the markets

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Speaker 2: But other than that, I think the market overreacts so

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Speaker 2: there are certain indications or certain games in which you

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Speaker 2: So I would say be careful when it comes to

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Speaker 1: Have you ever seen it become almost the opposite where

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Speaker 1: those injury reports are man, they're not accurate for the

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think information is king right. So if you

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Speaker 2: I think you shouta take advantage of it. If you

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Speaker 2: I think for the most part, the market reacts overreacts

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Speaker 2: And you could take advantage of that, by the way,

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Speaker 2: where everyone thinks, oh my gosh, the Dolls live. It

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Speaker 1: Yeah. I can remember just last year, Man absolutely laying

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Speaker 1: Another key way to scope out plus ev is by

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think the public for the most part, gets

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Speaker 2: why survivor contests are so difficult to win because your

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Speaker 2: team that you just bet or road should do the

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Speaker 2: exact same thing. And it's much different than any other

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Speaker 2: you know, the public doesn't take into account those back

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Speaker 2: is a bear trap for so many teams. In particular,

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Speaker 2: back to back road games in the division are complete disasters.

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Speaker 2: And you see maybe a really good football team lay

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Speaker 2: It's well, it's because of the travel and everything goes

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Speaker 2: into divisional games. So I think there are situational betting opportunities,

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Speaker 2: And this is why I recommend any new better you

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Speaker 2: should be writing down after you make bets. You should

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Speaker 2: write down the logic that you have made for each bet.

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Speaker 2: And if you keep a running diary, you're going to

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Speaker 1: Even in the motorsports realm too, Matt. I'm often over

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Speaker 2: Matt oh No, I think that's a brilliant strategy. If

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Speaker 2: you're betting golf, if you think someone's gonna be worthy

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Speaker 2: Like I wouldn't recommend laddering with full units, I would

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Speaker 2: And so you're not getting yourself massively exposed. And if

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Speaker 2: And that day, well, that day's coming. Whether you think

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Speaker 1: So we've discussed what EV is and how to find it,

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Speaker 2: I think it really comes down to pay intolerance for you,

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Speaker 1: Okay. And when it comes to your volume, Matt, are

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Speaker 1: So how do you approach long shots? Is it just

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Speaker 1: about scaling the unit size down if you do like

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Speaker 2: I love long shot bets if you think you've got

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Speaker 2: There's a big difference. A long shot in a lottery

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Speaker 2: ticket are two different things. I have a twenty seven

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Speaker 2: At the time that I bet it, they were a

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Speaker 2: long shot to win the World Series. They're now eight

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Speaker 2: a play at a long shot, thinking if this team

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Speaker 2: and make a lot of noise. That's a long shot

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Speaker 2: it's just not gonna happen for you. So that's what

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Speaker 2: drives me crazy is America's obsession with not betting conservatively

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Speaker 2: every day, that's fine, bet every day. I bet every day.

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Speaker 2: I don't bet an eight leg parlay every day, like

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Speaker 2: I'm not just donating ten dollars ten dollars, ten dollars,

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Speaker 2: I get up and I and I cook, and I

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Speaker 2: one bet, find the best bet that you like and

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Speaker 2: bet it. Win ten dollars, then move to the next day.

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Speaker 2: Then win ten dollars and move to the next day.

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Speaker 2: This obsession with getting rich quick with gamblers, I just

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Speaker 2: And I get why you go to the pub, you

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