Speaker 1: Wake that ass up in the morning.
Speaker 2: The Breakfast Club, Morning everybody, it's the e j env
Speaker 2: just hilarious. Charlamagne the guy. We are the Breakfast Club
Speaker 2: just as out today. Lor l Rosa is feeling in
Speaker 2: and we got a special guest in the building. His
Speaker 2: album is out this Friday. At the Church Steps. You
Speaker 2: done did it again, man, cap Old, ladies and gentlemen.
Speaker 3: Jim Jones, what with you'll welcome? How are you feeling?
Speaker 4: I'm feeling pretty good. I can't complain.
Speaker 1: Man, you make some good ass music.
Speaker 5: I done told you this a million times, but at
Speaker 5: some point you would think there'd be some type of
Speaker 5: fall off or something, but it just has not been
Speaker 5: at all. Like at the Church Steps is a phenomenal,
Speaker 5: phenomenal body of work.
Speaker 4: Man, God is good.
Speaker 3: So let's let's get into the mind frame.
Speaker 2: Because we were talking behind the scenes and we was like,
Speaker 2: he knows how to make music.
Speaker 1: Yes, you know what I was comparing it to. I
Speaker 1: was comparing it to Rick Ross, Like Rick Ross just music.
Speaker 5: We got a great ear and he always got fire
Speaker 5: and you you the same way.
Speaker 4: Thank you, man. I appreciate that. That's big. That's big.
Speaker 4: That's big. I was I wash the whole world to
Speaker 4: see it like.
Speaker 3: That, And why why don't you think they see it
Speaker 3: like that?
Speaker 4: I don't know, man. You know, I always been an
Speaker 4: independent artist. I didn't have most of the promo that
Speaker 4: most of the major artists have and things like that.
Speaker 4: You're going to go. But it feels good to be
Speaker 4: where I'm at right now. I think I'm in a
Speaker 4: unique place for how long I've been in the game
Speaker 4: and to be able to navigate with the youngsters and
Speaker 4: still have my core fair base and and some new
Speaker 4: so it's dope. I mean, I'm engaged. I'm embracing the
Speaker 4: new wave of marketing through technology and digital stuff like that.
Speaker 4: So you know, it's giving me a real jump on
Speaker 4: what I got going on.
Speaker 3: And what keeps you there?
Speaker 4: Is it?
Speaker 3: Is it your son? Is it being outside?
Speaker 2: Because Jim sends Meet Records a lot throughout the year,
Speaker 2: and like Charlamagne said, it always sounds relevant. It's not
Speaker 2: like it's not relevant even if it's an older, little
Speaker 2: classic field, but it also has a classic field. So
Speaker 2: what keeps you in that zone?
Speaker 4: I'm a classic hustler, I mean, I mean, but if
Speaker 4: I don't live life, then I wouldn't be able to
Speaker 4: continue to do my music the way my hustle is
Speaker 4: set up and things like that. As far as going
Speaker 4: outside of getting the money feed my family is, it
Speaker 4: still has me outside, So that's a big reflection on
Speaker 4: the music. And then you know, I have artists, they
Speaker 4: all younger than me, so I get to see how
Speaker 4: they live in and I live vicariously through them. So
Speaker 4: it's a lot going on. And then you know, I
Speaker 4: love the younger generation and people that's coming up. I
Speaker 4: always like to give them a help of hand. So
Speaker 4: in turn it's a full service. We help each ovel
Speaker 4: our way. Hand watch the other, both hand watch the face.
Speaker 4: But the urgency of music for me is like, you know,
Speaker 4: besides everything else. When you're a person that comes from rap,
Speaker 4: ain't nothing like having a hit record that helps everything
Speaker 4: that's out tremendously, And when you got that cool behind you,
Speaker 4: it's like none you can't do. And the business stuff
Speaker 4: coming company starts. I mean, so it always starts with
Speaker 4: the music. And you can ask anybody who does music.
Speaker 5: It's harder to make like the records you got on
Speaker 5: like the at the Church steps Aultum, like the Joe
Speaker 5: Mo and the Genesis, just those dope street records. It's
Speaker 5: harder to make those are a hit single, like a.
Speaker 4: Ball hit single, like a Balling because the records that
Speaker 4: you hear is a reflection of things that are really
Speaker 4: going through if you listen to the music and things
Speaker 4: like that, like you know what I mean. So it's
Speaker 4: like it's very easy for me to talk about actual,
Speaker 4: real things that you know, I mean, But you got
Speaker 4: them records that you need for getting lit in the
Speaker 4: club and things like that. Sometimes those are the hardest
Speaker 4: records for me to kind of produce.
Speaker 3: You know, do you chase Balling though?
Speaker 2: Do you chase that record, try to make a bigger record,
Speaker 2: or do you just make records to say if it
Speaker 2: connected connected.
Speaker 4: Would after the successive Balling, I used to chase Balling, damn,
Speaker 4: like I gotta findle I mean. And then slowly but
Speaker 4: surely I got out of that phase of just trying
Speaker 4: to chase Balling and make music that I continue to
Speaker 4: make money. I mean, And I do believe I hit
Speaker 4: to come, and a few hits came since Balling.
Speaker 5: You had one, But to your point, I guess you
Speaker 5: didn't have the label behind it, the joint And then
Speaker 5: and then away, Yes, I should have been out of
Speaker 5: here and.
Speaker 4: Then so I show you how it goes. So Wayne
Speaker 4: had put a record out similar to that, like a
Speaker 4: little bit after that, where he was singing and stuff,
Speaker 4: and I was like, but it's the support sometimes and
Speaker 4: you know just how the game go. But yeah, I
Speaker 4: have some dope records that I'm proud of. Whether they
Speaker 4: ain't get the platinum success or the success that I wanted,
Speaker 4: but I'm definitely proud of all my music to still
Speaker 4: be here coming up to the Breakfast club all these
Speaker 4: years later from where I started, it's definitely incredible.
Speaker 3: I was talking to Lauren before you got a pair.
Speaker 2: We was talking about an interview you did and you
Speaker 2: said you spent twenty million dollars the time of ball
Speaker 2: and you ran through twenty million. Yeah, And I was,
Speaker 2: and I was counting your pockets. I was like, Jim
Speaker 2: loves calls, but he ain't love calls like that. Right then,
Speaker 2: I said, Jim loves houses, but here you love houses
Speaker 2: like that. Jim has jewelry, but not twenty million dollars worth.
Speaker 2: Where did you spend the twenty million dollars just.
Speaker 4: Just spending and living? Like my credit cars sometimes like
Speaker 4: one hundred and twenty thousand dollars a month, you heard.
Speaker 4: And I ain't got nothing to do with the every
Speaker 4: day expensive So you know, we deal with a lot
Speaker 4: of cash and stuff like that.
Speaker 3: So I know it was a lot of PJ he
Speaker 3: was on. He was PJ king at one time.
Speaker 4: This is what I'm trying to say. So if you
Speaker 4: jumping on the jet all these times, and your jet
Speaker 4: build some time might be half a million month just
Speaker 4: because you trying to get place, it's all added up.
Speaker 4: Is not like I spent it like it was just
Speaker 4: the accumulation during the ball of the error. Through those
Speaker 4: few years where I was getting money, I was getting
Speaker 4: and I was blowing it. And as I looked back
Speaker 4: thinking about the money that was spending, came on to
Speaker 4: about twenty years routine the deal money to show money
Speaker 4: to all money feature money, like I'm burning through that shit,
Speaker 4: you know what I mean. So I ain't got twenty
Speaker 4: million dollars to show for it, but I definitely spent
Speaker 4: it on the land and shit like that, you know
Speaker 4: what I mean.
Speaker 6: I know you said in the same interview you don't
Speaker 6: regret anything, but there were things that you probably would
Speaker 6: have done differently, or just just things you would have
Speaker 6: done at that time that you didn't do. What were
Speaker 6: some of those things now when you're looking back, like, yo,
Speaker 6: I could have put I could have.
Speaker 4: Did this, I could have been way more financially responsible
Speaker 4: than I was. But I got this thing there that
Speaker 4: you don't know till you grow. I was very young
Speaker 4: and dumb at that time, and the experience was worth it.
Speaker 4: But as I'm older than I'm thinking back, like, damn
Speaker 4: if we did have some people in my corner or
Speaker 4: grew up a little bit different where we were tall
Speaker 4: financial literacy as opposed to coming up in the hood,
Speaker 4: and we were taught to get that money, Go get
Speaker 4: the car, go get it, you know what I mean.
Speaker 4: I'm a product of the projects you did. Like so
Speaker 4: everything I seen is everything I wanted. And I got
Speaker 4: that money and I emulated what I seen outside. We
Speaker 4: wasn't taught to, oh, by real estate. We wasn't taught to, oh,
Speaker 4: get savings. We wasn't taught none of that. We was
Speaker 4: taught to save what you cared in the shoe boxing
Speaker 4: style out on everybody else, you know what I mean.
Speaker 4: And that was the mentality I had and it took
Speaker 4: me to go through a lot to learn any bit
Speaker 4: of financial literacy, like to the point where I part
Speaker 4: of the ways with my account. And ever since I've
Speaker 4: done that years ago, it was like, was me really
Speaker 4: gaining control of the moneys that I had because I
Speaker 4: actually had to see it when I had an account
Speaker 4: and I never saw the money. I just was spending
Speaker 4: the money until I was in debt.
Speaker 6: I was talking to somebody about that yesterday actually, and
Speaker 6: they were seeing that they can't wait to wait to
Speaker 6: get to the point where they're making enough money where
Speaker 6: they could just throw people to manage you real quick.
Speaker 6: And I was like, I don't know, I kind of
Speaker 6: want to see mine and feel this. I know where
Speaker 6: it's going.
Speaker 3: I know where I'm messing up.
Speaker 4: Nobody to pay your bills, just me being ended up
Speaker 4: on a rock bottom, and how didn't make a decision
Speaker 4: like yo, moving forward? You got to do something different
Speaker 4: because what you've been doing is not working for you now.
Speaker 4: Having a business manager and having account in two different things.
Speaker 4: Sometimes account access a business manager, but a business manager
Speaker 4: is really supposed to help you make some money with
Speaker 4: the money that you have, and things like that. You
Speaker 4: know what I mean and then count. It helps you
Speaker 4: just pretty much pay your bills and keep your taxes
Speaker 4: and orders and things like that, you know what I mean.
Speaker 4: And I didn't know the difference between the two, and
Speaker 4: I mean, it's just but I learned, you know what
Speaker 4: I mean, and I'm here. God is good. I was
Speaker 4: able to bounce back. I was dealing with some scary times,
Speaker 4: but I always had a hustle and spirit. I know
Speaker 4: how to make money, what I mean, but I didn't
Speaker 4: know how to make business. So now I've learned how
Speaker 4: to make business so that these business can make me money.
Speaker 4: So I'm in a whole different status feeling life right now,
Speaker 4: and I feel real good about it.
Speaker 1: But your debut album is all my Way to Church,
Speaker 1: All my way to church. This album is at the church.
Speaker 4: Twenty years later, I feel I'm that much closer to
Speaker 4: getting my life totally together, you know what I mean.
Speaker 4: And we can't do that without having God in my life.
Speaker 1: When you go into church, thought.
Speaker 7: Close to it.
Speaker 4: I'm very close. So I mean I grew up in
Speaker 4: the church, I mean for all my life when I
Speaker 4: was younger, Sunday school, all night, pray me and all
Speaker 4: that type of stuff. So I'm a golfer it, man.
Speaker 4: I mean, I have very good morals, a very great
Speaker 4: moral compass, and that's why I believe that I'm still
Speaker 4: able to be here in good favor and things like that.
Speaker 5: Laurie, tell him what you said. I like the conversations
Speaker 5: people have about music when you they not in front
Speaker 5: of you. Tell them what you said. You didn't know
Speaker 5: about Jim.
Speaker 6: I was about to go there from the order of
Speaker 6: how you put this project together. I didn't know that
Speaker 6: you were like emotional as emotional as you said.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 7: I think it's like and I don't think that's a
Speaker 7: bad thing.
Speaker 6: I think it's like when I think about you, I
Speaker 6: think about like Jim Jones tough you don't play with him,
Speaker 6: and I think about the big records. I don't think
Speaker 6: I've ever really sat and digested a full project, and
Speaker 6: I did that and preparing for this, and I was like, man,
Speaker 6: you put a lot out there, you talk about how
Speaker 6: you feel and you take your time with it, where
Speaker 6: like I really felt it. I'm like, Wow, he was
Speaker 6: really going through some things. And then by the time
Speaker 6: we got the church steps, it's like, Okay, now he's
Speaker 6: coming up out of it and know that you were
Speaker 6: like that in your music.
Speaker 4: You know anything about cancers?
Speaker 1: What I tell you, what I think.
Speaker 7: I learned today.
Speaker 4: That's that's who I am. All of my music, I
Speaker 4: pretty much will all my emotions on my sleeve, which
Speaker 4: I've gotten better at. Like I've my decision making used
Speaker 4: to be all about an emotional decision, you know. I mean,
Speaker 4: I make the wrong choices a lot of life. And
Speaker 4: I've gotten very good with me keeping a level ahead
Speaker 4: and not letting the little things get to me and
Speaker 4: things like that, things that I can't do nothing about,
Speaker 4: you know what I mean. So I'm proud of myself
Speaker 4: for doing so, because there was a time where I
Speaker 4: will react to every little thing and put myself in
Speaker 4: all types of trouble for no reason, and you know
Speaker 4: I would never benefit from it. I'll be like shooting
Speaker 4: myself in the foot every time I had something good
Speaker 4: going on?
Speaker 1: Is it therapeutic for you?
Speaker 4: Didn't?
Speaker 5: Because when you hear the music, you literally hear you
Speaker 5: expressing your life to music. I feel like if you
Speaker 5: listen to this album, whatever questions they have, you answer
Speaker 5: them in some.
Speaker 4: Way, shape or form one hundred percent. That's what this
Speaker 4: album turned into. Be Remember I was doing this album
Speaker 4: for eighteen months. So this album changed that actions like
Speaker 4: three four times. And I mean it was a core
Speaker 4: body of work that I always loved, like records, but
Speaker 4: as I was living life and going through certain situations,
Speaker 4: the music would change and things like that. And as
Speaker 4: we all seen everything that transpired in the media recently
Speaker 4: and things like that. So as I get I was
Speaker 4: able to get a bit of that emotion also and
Speaker 4: everything is that answered some questions that people. I mean,
Speaker 4: so it was good. It was good for the music.
Speaker 4: It was good for my soul, you know. I mean
Speaker 4: I needed that. I needed that. I needed somebody to
Speaker 4: poke me. I mean, so I could wake up and
Speaker 4: get back on my get back in my bag.
Speaker 2: It seemed like the media questioned you at one time
Speaker 2: about your role in dipsets and diplomatic How did that
Speaker 2: affect you?
Speaker 4: Right?
Speaker 2: Because I mean everybody who's in New York or around
Speaker 2: the country seen the war what your role was, or
Speaker 2: thought what your role was.
Speaker 3: So how did how did you handle let How did
Speaker 3: that make you feel?
Speaker 4: I mean, it was crazy. When I woke up, so
Speaker 4: was Chris. She was like, yo, listen, put your phone down,
Speaker 4: breathe for five minutes, internalize it, think about it, and
Speaker 4: don't overreact. It's what people want you to do. First off,
Speaker 4: and overreacted in the house, okay, And then I got
Speaker 4: over it, you know what I mean. I just thought
Speaker 4: about the playing feeling, what was really astakeing what we're
Speaker 4: doing here and things like that, and what people have
Speaker 4: in their favor and when it comes to the media
Speaker 4: and how these media games, and plus it's a playbook
Speaker 4: from our playbook that we created. You're not gonna trick
Speaker 4: me with a play that I've created. I mean, like,
Speaker 4: I know this play all right, cool, But as far
Speaker 4: as what people spewing and things like that, you know,
Speaker 4: I mean, I got this thing you I mean a lot.
Speaker 4: I can't tell the truth you heard, and time don't lie,
Speaker 4: so everything we will reveal itself in time. But I
Speaker 4: do believe this is a story that everybody's known for
Speaker 4: so many years. The only people that don't really know
Speaker 4: the story are the New Millennials and Gen Z generation.
Speaker 4: But besides that, the hip hop culture know well. My
Speaker 4: position is in a diplomass. But everything started from pretty
Speaker 4: much my dynamic. And not to say it started like that,
Speaker 4: I mean when the success started. Everything came out of
Speaker 4: my grandmother house age. I mean, I wasn't I was it?
Speaker 4: You heard like if I was, I was the denominated
Speaker 4: in between everybody, Like if we didn't have that little
Speaker 4: stuff that I don't believe that they would have went
Speaker 4: in the direction they went. Not to say, and they
Speaker 4: wasn't rapping before I met them, Not to say, none
Speaker 4: of this type of shit. But all the things that
Speaker 4: he was saying was pretty much foolish and shit like that.
Speaker 4: It's all jokes to me. But I do know what
Speaker 4: I what I've did. I think everybody know what I've did.
Speaker 4: I mean everybody who hallm knew me. My name is
Speaker 4: Joan way before my name was Jim Jones. You know
Speaker 4: what I mean, Like I really have a name of
Speaker 4: the I mean shouts, the Halem, shouts of my block, shots,
Speaker 4: the twelfth Street, shouts of the thirteenth Street, Lenox Side,
Speaker 4: Foster P's t peas, uptown, downtown, east Side, west side.
Speaker 4: You know how this thing goes.
Speaker 2: And I think another question people always ask, and as
Speaker 2: many years as I've we interviewed you, I don't think
Speaker 2: people ever know where was the I guess the breaking diplomats, right,
Speaker 2: because you guys were tight, Like, this wasn't just me
Speaker 2: doing this. Y'all were in the group. Y'all were family.
Speaker 2: This wasn't a rap group. Like there was Cam the rapper,
Speaker 2: Joel's the rapper and freaking and Jim was kind of,
Speaker 2: in my opinion, was the you know, the muscleman. They
Speaker 2: would have the duteman right, they would have wait to
Speaker 2: make sure things happened. They were gonna make sure the
Speaker 2: record got spun, they were gonna get the clearances, they
Speaker 2: were gonna make sure everything was in order.
Speaker 4: That's what that's how, that's what you see. But it
Speaker 4: started from I, me and Cam being broken my grandmother
Speaker 4: house with no money, heard having to hustle. You know,
Speaker 4: I was in the streets. He was. I was figuring
Speaker 4: out how to get to it. And he had his craft,
Speaker 4: which was the music, and he ended up striking gold
Speaker 4: with the craft. But it all started with us having
Speaker 4: nothing happening to figure it out. Shot, it's the six
Speaker 4: figured Digger. A lot of people don't mention his name,
Speaker 4: but I don't think it'd be no diplomats without six
Speaker 4: figured Digger. He was the uh first person that was
Speaker 4: like he was the part of the original COOC. When
Speaker 4: it came to Bloodshed, Cameron and six Figured Digger and
Speaker 4: then R I P. Blood passed away. Cam had got
Speaker 4: his first deal and six Figured Digga was his producer naturally,
Speaker 4: and they got Platinum, Hiss together and things like that.
Speaker 4: And this separation was there was a separation with Cam
Speaker 4: and him before there was any other separation between the diplomas,
Speaker 4: before he got the deal. And that's a whole other
Speaker 4: side of the story. When we were offered millions of
Speaker 4: dollars at one label and somebody didn't take it because
Speaker 4: power struggles, which I knew nothing about. I found this
Speaker 4: out later on, and shit like that. That we could
Speaker 4: all had way much more money at signing, But I
Speaker 4: wasn't signed to the label in the beginning anyway. He
Speaker 4: just gave me a check who was with signed. So
Speaker 4: there's a whole lot of shit. But six Figure Digga
Speaker 4: is a prominent piece to the whole Diplomat success. I
Speaker 4: don't believe that none of us would be with Hi
Speaker 4: as a diplomat if six figure wasn't inside of that
Speaker 4: that that dynamic, and I do believe that people need
Speaker 4: to sit down and interview him and get his view
Speaker 4: on how everything goes. And I mean he's pretty successful.
Speaker 4: He ended up on platinum records fifty all types of people,
Speaker 4: so he got a great catalog and stuff like that.
Speaker 4: But yeah, he's a very very prominent piece to this
Speaker 4: whole story.
Speaker 3: When did the break? When did the er happened?
Speaker 2: Where I started splitting apart because I know everybody started
Speaker 2: doing their own thing. You started doing music, You all
Speaker 2: started doing music, and Cam started doing miss witted it
Speaker 2: break where it seems like they can't come back together.
Speaker 3: M I did it.
Speaker 5: When I listen to the album, I hear you still
Speaker 5: referencing as your brother, and you explain all of this,
Speaker 5: you talk about the apartment, and you talk about bloodshed,
Speaker 5: you talk about all of this on the album, But
Speaker 5: it still seems like that's your that's your brother.
Speaker 4: I mean, once you got her brother, he's always your brother,
Speaker 4: no matter what I mean, Like, doesn't mean that you
Speaker 4: got the same brotherly love that you wasn't mean that
Speaker 4: you're going to hang out like brothers, Like I mean,
Speaker 4: I know brothers that trying to kill each other, you
Speaker 4: know what I mean.
Speaker 7: I think it's on make it out.
Speaker 6: You say, if so, if it is, what it is
Speaker 6: is so be it, and I'm not sound number three
Speaker 6: and then number four on Make It Out, you say
Speaker 6: you talk about wanted to put it behind you brothers
Speaker 6: and two brothers.
Speaker 4: That's lost.
Speaker 1: You didn't just say it is what it is, so
Speaker 1: be it. It was more to it after that, I know.
Speaker 7: But I just I specifically grab.
Speaker 4: That because to me, to me, put in their pears
Speaker 4: and that star wars like the soul be it. So
Speaker 4: don't be rushing for no repercussions. We got drums on
Speaker 4: these machines like a beat production. It's just raps.
Speaker 7: Sounded like to me, like you guys can make it
Speaker 7: out of all this stuff. That's why I was bringing.
Speaker 4: I mean, I'm not concerned about that right now. I'm
Speaker 4: concerned about this album dropping. I got other things going on.
Speaker 4: I'm concerned about Jim Jones or what Jim Jones got
Speaker 4: going on. I've done a lot for Diplomat's sake and
Speaker 4: for the sake of the people and the fans and
Speaker 4: all that, but nobody does a lot for me, you
Speaker 4: know what I mean. And that's part of the problem here.
Speaker 4: Nobody ever really pulled up for me on Jim Jones
Speaker 4: need them to pull up, But I pulled up for everybody,
Speaker 4: so I got to pull up for myself, you know
Speaker 4: what I mean? All of a rhetoric, I can't I
Speaker 4: can't even hear no more. And that's why I stick
Speaker 4: to what I know how to do. I mean like,
Speaker 4: I'm in the process of changing who of who I've
Speaker 4: who I've always of people, of what people see me
Speaker 4: to be in my past. And I'm enjoying this journey
Speaker 4: that I'm going on. If not, I be out here
Speaker 4: going crazy, I'll probably be in jail for crashing. All right. Now,
Speaker 4: last thing I crashed was a boat and Bahamas. To
Speaker 4: my brother Ellie, you heard well, you.
Speaker 5: Had a good line on the album man that to
Speaker 5: speak to that you said, I'm paraphrase because I just
Speaker 5: heard it. But it was like you said something situations
Speaker 5: you had to mitigate so you don't end up having
Speaker 5: to litigate. I feel like that's a ball for the
Speaker 5: young boys.
Speaker 4: Yeah they don't even know what mitigate me. But being
Speaker 4: gonna get into that. But yeah, I'm having a good
Speaker 4: time with music. Man. I'm in a point where I
Speaker 4: lived a lot of life. My vocabulary is very extensive.
Speaker 4: I mean, I'm not I'm not I mean you did so,
Speaker 4: and I figured out my groove when it come to
Speaker 4: doing music, like I got I figured out my craft.
Speaker 4: I figured out who I am when any beat comes on,
Speaker 4: like I know what I can do, you know what
Speaker 4: I mean? And it feels good to be here because
Speaker 4: it was it was a time when it wasn't that.
Speaker 4: There was a time where this was just an absolutely
Speaker 4: great hustle for me and I had to figure out
Speaker 4: how to make some great music so I could make
Speaker 4: some incredible money like everybody else was doing. And that
Speaker 4: was like doing homework. That was the hardest thing for
Speaker 4: me to do, you know what I mean. And now
Speaker 4: I encourage you like I can't wait. I mean, every
Speaker 4: day ain't the best day, but for the most days,
Speaker 4: I'm smoking issue and not going to booth.
Speaker 3: When you did the interview with with Justin Little Boy,
Speaker 3: I mean, you know you guys from.
Speaker 4: Charls, the Just Shoulds, the Yeah I just left La
Speaker 4: We just this is out there.
Speaker 3: Talk about yea in a second?
Speaker 2: Were you more hurt of what came out of that
Speaker 2: interview than anything else? As far as what I guess
Speaker 2: you knew what when you said about cam I fifty
Speaker 2: you knew he was gonna return return fire?
Speaker 3: Were you more upset?
Speaker 4: Do you ask me if that when when I didn't
Speaker 4: start that? When niggas we talk about me is is
Speaker 4: it's all funny games. And when I start talking my shit,
Speaker 4: it get serious like like no, like, I don't care
Speaker 4: about none of them. Don't play with me. Bro, all
Speaker 4: y'all do is play on the media. Don't play with me. Bro,
Speaker 4: you think that's the reason why you did, because y'all
Speaker 4: can have I don't troll, I don't. I don't know
Speaker 4: these imaginary people that get on my on my Instagram,
Speaker 4: and I don't do none of that. Bro. Y'all know
Speaker 4: what's up. Bro. You can see me face to face.
Speaker 4: We meet in traffic anywady. You'll want to if that's
Speaker 4: what you want to do, But I'm not into that.
Speaker 4: God bless y'all alone. You heard, leave me alone because
Speaker 4: we all know you're getting nasty, you know, and nobody's
Speaker 4: got out here, you heard.
Speaker 1: How do you feel when people call you the youngest
Speaker 1: old nigga?
Speaker 4: I love it. I love it. I'm still in the loop.
Speaker 4: I'm accepted by the younger generation. That means my music
Speaker 4: is moving, I mean my music is touching. Them. That
Speaker 4: means my music resonates with them. You know how dope
Speaker 4: that is for me to be in this game this
Speaker 4: long and being able to make music that the youngsters
Speaker 4: that wasn't around when I really was lit still admire
Speaker 4: and want to know who this guy is. It's something
Speaker 4: about that, you know what I mean. I don't see
Speaker 4: too many people from my day doing anything like what
Speaker 4: I'm doing right now. If they all count them out,
Speaker 4: call them out to make it cool, call them out.
Speaker 4: I want to see how many they.
Speaker 1: Are to chain push your talking about New York.
Speaker 4: You did, I'm from New York. We're talking about.
Speaker 1: Maybe fab active enough. I like hearing them on gymum,
Speaker 1: but it's not active right now.
Speaker 4: I mean, let's let's chat about it like currently right
Speaker 4: it was the youngsters they.
Speaker 7: That's what I'm saying, Like when I go out, I'm.
Speaker 4: Anomaly in my position, especially from New York's skype, you
Speaker 4: know what I mean, And just watching the landscape of
Speaker 4: the music that's going on right now. For me to
Speaker 4: be doing what I'm doing right now in these streets,
Speaker 4: and then I try to state area with the music
Speaker 4: it hasn't been seen before.
Speaker 1: That's true right now, now that's definitely true.
Speaker 6: And I think during the time where so many people
Speaker 6: have so much conversation about New York sound and what
Speaker 6: it should be like the way that you did this
Speaker 6: even Okay, so you have like classic Jim Jones fill
Speaker 6: on here, but then you also got like the rail
Speaker 6: Rays skate Like a lot of people like I understand
Speaker 6: that you having real ray On here and doing that,
Speaker 6: but they probably even know what I'm talking about, you
Speaker 6: know what I mean, stuff like that.
Speaker 4: That's the beauty of like so I love the influences.
Speaker 4: I have something called IFC, the Influencer Club just for
Speaker 4: that reason, because I know that these kids no more
Speaker 4: about their phone, they't no TV. They know these influences
Speaker 4: on Instagram way more than you no actors on television
Speaker 4: and things like that. And this is what made like
Speaker 4: damn people like Ray Ray and so many others that
Speaker 4: I deal with, you know. I mean Mr Comodo is
Speaker 4: a bunch of them like that. I put all of
Speaker 4: them in the movie. So with the album, also have
Speaker 4: a movie at the church steps that we filmed the
Speaker 4: movie at Saint Joseph on twenty fifth Street in Harlem.
Speaker 4: We had Fast Stacey, we had Ray Ray, we had
Speaker 4: mister Commodore, we had Swaggy, who else we got on
Speaker 4: everybody in there, right, So it's just like Patos in
Speaker 4: the movie. It was a beautiful movie. But I know
Speaker 4: that it's gonna really, it's gonna hit hard because I
Speaker 4: know everybody loved these these influences and me thinking like
Speaker 4: when when I saw Friday, we didn't know who none
Speaker 4: of those comedians was, but it ended up being one
Speaker 4: of the movies that we all love. So making a
Speaker 4: movie with that in mind, shouts to everybody that played
Speaker 4: the part of making this movie. Shouts to will see you,
Speaker 4: a whole director team, and things like that.
Speaker 3: Also mentioned Kanye flew out to China to see Kanye
Speaker 3: I was in Japan. That was Japan.
Speaker 4: That was dope. That was dope. That was pre what
Speaker 4: everybody else saw, but that was dope just to be And.
Speaker 3: He reached out to you said, come on out out
Speaker 3: of that had I.
Speaker 4: Was justin and I put that together and things like that.
Speaker 4: He's like, Yo, they said you should pull up man,
Speaker 4: pull up to Japan. I'm like, huh, pull up to
Speaker 4: Japan is different, bro, But you're not saying like that's Brooklyn,
Speaker 4: Like Yo, But it was dope. It was a dope
Speaker 4: experience to see and work to see the genu c
Speaker 4: is on getting to understand them more and things like that.
Speaker 4: You know what I mean. We all have friends that
Speaker 4: I mean, it is, But he's definitely a dope soul man.
Speaker 4: I believe that he's misunderstood in a lot of ways,
Speaker 4: and I believe that he does things for people to
Speaker 4: misunderstand them and things like that. But I kind of understanding.
Speaker 4: But he's definitely dope. He's definitely a hood ass nigga
Speaker 4: underneath all of that, you know what I mean. That's
Speaker 4: what That's what I said.
Speaker 3: Did you give the diplomat?
Speaker 4: Yeah, definitely has that's his shame. Yeah, that's his you
Speaker 4: know Dipinitely, Yeah, you're heard. That's what that's my dope.
Speaker 3: Did he ask you for what you said?
Speaker 4: Yo? This is well as you see in the footage
Speaker 4: if you've seen the footage that and I had everything later,
Speaker 4: Like first of all, he asked me to bring I
Speaker 4: bring like four or five suitcases of this drip, you
Speaker 4: know what I mean, Like so even want me to
Speaker 4: help him with his fashion, with his brand and things
Speaker 4: like that. So that was what the whole thing for
Speaker 4: me going to Japan was and things like that. I forgot.
Speaker 3: Somebody the jewelry in the gyp and all that.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, so he went through the jewelry ticket and
Speaker 4: he didn't take it off, so naturally I was like, man,
Speaker 4: you hold on to that. He was like, what you mean?
Speaker 4: He said, you know, he said that was dope. Man.
Speaker 4: Shout out to him, incredible dude. Though I was doing
Speaker 4: some music with him yesterday, he'd let's let him listen
Speaker 4: to my album. He started breaking records down, like you
Speaker 4: need to do that, and I'm like, yo, bro, my
Speaker 4: al won't come out Friday. I won't come out Friday.
Speaker 4: I chaned up full it there, like I don't have
Speaker 4: you dig like I. But it's dope, so you can
Speaker 4: go moving forward. We definitely gonna make some dope best
Speaker 4: records and things like that.
Speaker 1: Man Jones fashion line is something coming.
Speaker 4: I mean, well, I've been helping them with with with
Speaker 4: with with the with the Yeezy brand. It's pretty dope.
Speaker 4: We got a bunch of things going on with that.
Speaker 4: I'm excited about that. You know, fashionist fashion is one
Speaker 4: of my things, getting freshest one of my things. So
Speaker 4: giving me the opportunity to express myself in that field.
Speaker 5: I think it's pretty big, you know, I mean from
Speaker 5: a business perspective, you know you're putting if you put
Speaker 5: time into that, you put energy into that, doing some
Speaker 5: of his antics effective business.
Speaker 1: Won't you tell them I'm a partner with you. You
Speaker 1: gotta slow down.
Speaker 4: I'm not a partner of his, you know what I mean,
Speaker 4: Like he owns his brands and things like that. I'm
Speaker 4: just helping and learning and with the things that he
Speaker 4: needs help with. But I can't say this, man. We
Speaker 4: all have friends that do well. I have friends that
Speaker 4: do things that I don't necessarily agree with that they're doing,
Speaker 4: but that don't make them not my friend. You heard,
Speaker 4: These are still my niggas no matter what goes on.
Speaker 4: And I'm not saying anything about anybody. I'm just saying
Speaker 4: in life, you know what I mean, period and ship
Speaker 4: like that. You know what I mean. I don't get
Speaker 4: in certain people business.
Speaker 3: But if you my dog, you're just not wearing a
Speaker 3: swastick a T shirt.
Speaker 4: I mean, I ain't getting in none of that. I
Speaker 4: don't do politics, even vote he and I have nothing
Speaker 4: against whoever is the president. Whoever the president, I feel
Speaker 4: should be get that much respect because they are the president.
Speaker 4: I'm from the Reagan area and he was proud to
Speaker 4: have whatever president. He's the president. I mean, and nowadays,
Speaker 4: I say, a big divide with these politics with it's
Speaker 4: almost crazy how aggressive everything become, like they want you
Speaker 4: to just be like if the president, like how he's
Speaker 4: still a president. Where is the respect in this country
Speaker 4: when it comes to certain things, you know what I mean?
Speaker 4: So it's just and let me shut up for they
Speaker 4: start bombing. I know they about to go crazy on me.
Speaker 4: Got the red hat on this is uh read it? Yeah?
Speaker 4: You heard. That's all this is about. You heard, is not.
Speaker 4: I don't got no political endeavors. You heard. You know
Speaker 4: what I'm about about community. I do all my politicans
Speaker 4: political things is for my community. I do everything to
Speaker 4: help hallm whatever I can do in my power, you
Speaker 4: know what I mean.
Speaker 5: I don't think you get enough credit for that. I
Speaker 5: see you out there, you know at the Boy and
Speaker 5: the Girls Club. I see you out there in Hall
Speaker 5: and giving our clothes to the kids like you.
Speaker 3: Do that a lot all the time.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, shouts to my people. That's my community. And
Speaker 4: people always ask why I'm there. I definitely not there
Speaker 4: to show off or or look down on anybody and
Speaker 4: things like that. I am there as to be a
Speaker 4: bit of inspiration for these kids to see somebody that
Speaker 4: came up out of the same circumstances that they did
Speaker 4: and they was able to figure out how to get
Speaker 4: out the matrix. So me being there as like a
Speaker 4: beam of shining light, you know what I mean. That's
Speaker 4: how I feel about it, and things like that. And
Speaker 4: I'm gonna keep shining my light on my people and
Speaker 4: things like that. I mean, but certain people they have this.
Speaker 4: I mean for me, it's like I have a mission.
Speaker 4: I mean, God put us here to do certain things,
Speaker 4: and I do believe this is one of the things
Speaker 4: that he put me here to do, is to help people,
Speaker 4: you know what I mean. And til I figure out
Speaker 4: how to help more people, I'm gonna help the people
Speaker 4: I can. And that's my community.
Speaker 2: That was another thing I guess when people would try
Speaker 2: to say, you're not from Harlem, You're from the Bronx.
Speaker 3: You're from the Bronx. I think you cleared it up
Speaker 3: in Yoma.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but who cares. I'm from New York City. I
Speaker 4: really been in the turf been in the field I
Speaker 4: come from, you know what I mean, Like you know
Speaker 4: what I escaped to be worried about the rhetoric that
Speaker 4: and I was caught up in the min like I'm not.
Speaker 4: I had to think about it, Like bro I didn't
Speaker 4: live in Harlem, i'd've lived in Queens. I didn't lived
Speaker 4: in Brooklyn, I'd have lived in Like I don't lived
Speaker 4: in the whole city. I mean, like I didn't lived
Speaker 4: in a rub where I lived from a lot of places.
Speaker 4: You heard it ain't where you're from, is where you're at,
Speaker 4: And I get to the chicken wherever I'm at.
Speaker 7: You heard what's wrong with Staten Island though, because Very
Speaker 7: Ray was coming, They're.
Speaker 4: Gonna definitely gonna jump. I said, I ain't gonna lie.
Speaker 4: We'll take him like jump you like like ghost Face
Speaker 4: might see you and put them ghost face killers on
Speaker 4: your talking bad about stant now shotsa state Loune Shostah Liddy.
Speaker 4: I have an artist out there in Staten Island, man Shosta,
Speaker 4: my dude, little man or man. Yeah, in the building.
Speaker 1: You've always moved very militant. But you know you you don't.
Speaker 1: You keep the street life the street life, and you
Speaker 1: keep the rap life, the rap like.
Speaker 5: But on this album you included some court recordings about
Speaker 5: the male Matrix situation.
Speaker 1: Why why was that?
Speaker 4: Oh no Shasta Melli free Melly to listen reverse Man,
Speaker 4: it's my brothers, my heart and my soul. Man. I
Speaker 4: really love and respect that man. Man. I mean for
Speaker 4: numerous amounts of reasons, not just the obvious that people
Speaker 4: knowing things like that, like he's a man, he's the
Speaker 4: ten toes down along with Shoddy Long Will Halve, along
Speaker 4: with all the others that got faded to somebody not
Speaker 4: playing the game right and things like that. You know
Speaker 4: what I mean? When I see that, I gotta tip
Speaker 4: my hat to them every time. There's probably so many
Speaker 4: other things they could have did in the situations, but
Speaker 4: they decided to stay there like gangsters, do you know
Speaker 4: what I mean? So I definitely gotta shout that out.
Speaker 4: You her back to back lotty I lot Yo to death.
Speaker 4: But those are actually the real recordings from the actual
Speaker 4: transcript of what Mel Murder was going to call for.
Speaker 4: And let's keep it clear, Mel murder case has nothing
Speaker 4: to do with the non trade case that shoting. Everybody
Speaker 4: got locked up for Mel murders locked up for heroin
Speaker 4: and fanandel charge because he was getting some money out
Speaker 4: here and things like that, and he was getting money
Speaker 4: with a person that wasn't right. And these are actually
Speaker 4: recordings from the transcript that he was going to call
Speaker 4: and what they was asking the DA was asking questions
Speaker 4: to whoever and things like that, and you know, I
Speaker 4: just wanted to put it out there, and you know,
Speaker 4: it's my dog and things like that. I just wanted
Speaker 4: to show people things that as a black man, that
Speaker 4: we go through to try to make it through society,
Speaker 4: and you be in this rap game, how sensitive things
Speaker 4: could be in it's crazy. I give a lot of
Speaker 4: great advice and sometimes I hardly take my own advice.
Speaker 4: So when people hear that conversation, it's like yo, I
Speaker 4: tell people stay up their phones all the time, and
Speaker 4: look what happened. I mean, the same thing came back
Speaker 4: to me on the ass and things like that, and
Speaker 4: that could have caused me a whole lot. But regardless,
Speaker 4: good I got some good brothers around me. That's their
Speaker 4: ten toes down. You heard. So long as I'm out
Speaker 4: there out you heard, and it's freehm to we see
Speaker 4: him and he'd be home in a little while.
Speaker 1: For real, I guess that's when I'm after you.
Speaker 5: Weren't you not running from the affiliation, even though we're
Speaker 5: in an error where people getting jammed up.
Speaker 4: For shit like that, jammed up if you're doing crime, Yeah,
Speaker 4: you're heard. It's not a crown to be a blood.
Speaker 4: It's not a crime to your bling. It's not a crime.
Speaker 4: It's not kind to be a fraternity member. It's not
Speaker 4: a crime to be a celebrity member. It's all the
Speaker 4: same thing. It's a crime if you do crime while
Speaker 4: being that, and that turns into other things. And if
Speaker 4: it's more than one of y'all doing crime while being blood,
Speaker 4: that turns into rico and things like that. I do business.
Speaker 4: I'm a businessman. You heard y'all know that. You always music, baby,
Speaker 4: I always want to.
Speaker 2: Ask, right, you know, in passing interviews, and you talk
Speaker 2: about it bringing blood to New York.
Speaker 4: You ever regret that I didn't bring the blood to
Speaker 4: New York? God here you got here, no crime.
Speaker 3: And he said, actually, he said he made he made
Speaker 3: it properly. That's I was asking. That's a different.
Speaker 4: Commercializing there you go commercializing my gang.
Speaker 7: You're saying a question now because you made it cool,
Speaker 7: was what he's saying.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I made it cool, but I also commercialized. I
Speaker 4: made millions of dollars off the gang culture, you know
Speaker 4: what I mean. So same thing with Snoopez done and
Speaker 4: how the West Coast. I mean, so it was, but
Speaker 4: I know I did not I did. I thought that
Speaker 4: I was a young kid commercialized coming upbout the ghetto.
Speaker 4: You mean looking for I mean my place in society
Speaker 4: and things like that, in the brotherhood or it took
Speaker 4: care of me and that you did shouts to the
Speaker 4: brothers man, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3: But do you regret it because it was you commercialized it,
Speaker 3: you made it cool in you Do.
Speaker 4: I regret anything? No, I don't, because I've done so
Speaker 4: many positive things being in this position, as being a man,
Speaker 4: as being a gang member, as being a father, as
Speaker 4: being all these things you did. If I didn't have
Speaker 4: this platform, people would never know how great some of
Speaker 4: these people can be. Because I've put on a lot
Speaker 4: of people that people bloods, and I put all types
Speaker 4: of people in positions to make money and feed their
Speaker 4: family and things like that, and employ so many people
Speaker 4: and show so many people how to walk in the
Speaker 4: right direction, and things like that and understand it's a
Speaker 4: thin line between crashing out and and you ask anybody,
Speaker 4: I mean, anyone that's around me, You ask them, what
Speaker 4: if I ever encouraged them to do anything wrong? You
Speaker 4: know what I mean? My objective is about getting a
Speaker 4: dollar each one. Teacher, wie, we stay tight, the walls up,
Speaker 4: care nobody fads, I stay. Let's protect ourself, you know
Speaker 4: what I mean. Of course, with somebody across the line
Speaker 4: of the discretion. As a man, you have to protect yourself.
Speaker 4: But for the most part, that's not my lesson. It's
Speaker 4: not violence, you know what I mean at all. But
Speaker 4: in this rap game, we've used violence to make a
Speaker 4: lot of money. And that's what these labels egg us
Speaker 4: on to do. You know what I mean. We see
Speaker 4: the money, and we think about the money more than
Speaker 4: anything else. And it's so easy for us to get
Speaker 4: caught up in that rabbit hole for so many of us,
Speaker 4: and things like that. Just talk about things that we
Speaker 4: actually went through, you know what I mean. For some
Speaker 4: of us, A lot of us are just you know
Speaker 4: what I mean.
Speaker 5: But how man you rap about the labels having I
Speaker 5: don't say a certain responsibility, but I guess it's certain
Speaker 5: responsibility when you when you saw Leo's comments that he
Speaker 5: made up here a long what he said, he basically
Speaker 5: just was like he got.
Speaker 4: To eat too.
Speaker 5: What he said he said what he says, you got
Speaker 5: to eat too, you know, in regards to you know,
Speaker 5: people pushing the drug culture, the gang culture.
Speaker 4: What I mean, bro, nobody's twisting nobody's hand to do anything.
Speaker 4: You heard, this is this is this is entertainment business. Leo.
Speaker 4: I've learned a lot of lessons from him. I don't
Speaker 4: agree with I don't agree with everything that a lot
Speaker 4: of people doing things like that, but he was one
Speaker 4: of the first people that gave me a position to
Speaker 4: be one of the biggest executives in the game at Want,
Speaker 4: the music group. So I really ain't got too much
Speaker 4: bad to say about them. I more have something to
Speaker 4: say about myself by letting people like dam And and
Speaker 4: Killer tricked me out of them positions when I had
Speaker 4: them power, by making me feel less than when they
Speaker 4: would see me inside of them office, like oh you're
Speaker 4: working for these niggas. Oh you would you do? Boy?
Speaker 4: Oh you are so you ain't no boss or boss,
Speaker 4: don't work for nobody, But not understanding my position, how power,
Speaker 4: how much power I had to I could move, and
Speaker 4: you know what I mean in this game, you know
Speaker 4: what I mean. And it was things like that that
Speaker 4: always kind of you know, I mean, so it was
Speaker 4: a lot too. It th ship like that, but sholt
Speaker 4: the leon them, man, you know what I mean, Like
Speaker 4: I ain't got no but nothing bad but say about
Speaker 4: you on.
Speaker 7: The label stuff.
Speaker 6: I was watching another interview and you were talking about
Speaker 6: you're trying to get your master's back right now.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, I'm attempting to get my master's back.
Speaker 7: And so there because you said y'all were independent, but
Speaker 7: y'all weren't independent.
Speaker 4: You weren't independent. Was an independent label? You want telling
Speaker 4: them what the independent label means? Or should I tell
Speaker 4: you it wasn't. There wasn't a major label, two different
Speaker 4: type of labels. There wasn't a major label, you know
Speaker 4: what I mean. So we signed to an independent label.
Speaker 4: We signed to a label. We got a real label deal.
Speaker 4: But we was making so much money and the war
Speaker 4: independent was so alarmed and things like that. They made
Speaker 4: it fit we It felt like we signed, but that's
Speaker 4: what not really what we signed and things like that.
Speaker 4: It wasn't the independency of you see slim Thug in
Speaker 4: uh Houston had when he was out the truck, and
Speaker 4: it wasn't It wasn't that, you know what I mean,
Speaker 4: It wasn't that at all. We might have thought it
Speaker 4: was that because we were getting so much money, but
Speaker 4: in that in that circle, I ended up signing the
Speaker 4: deal from our solo album on which I was happy for,
Speaker 4: but me still running through the street the way I
Speaker 4: was and entrusting my career business sense with my partner.
Speaker 4: I just wasn't into reading the contracts or understanding the
Speaker 4: business of it, because you know how how I felt,
Speaker 4: we was moving and ship like that and don't own
Speaker 4: the life. When people start selling their catalogs and doing
Speaker 4: all this shit getting the bag, I got a real catalog.
Speaker 4: Let's not get to that too. So when people are
Speaker 4: buying these masters and things like that, like I was like, oh,
Speaker 4: I could catch a busy off it. I might make
Speaker 4: my exit off of this, and then trying to get
Speaker 4: that together and somebody WHOA, You're like, bro, you don't
Speaker 4: own your masters? Bro for life life?
Speaker 7: What year was that that you found that out?
Speaker 4: Because four or five years ago, Wow, who owns them?
Speaker 1: My heart just dropped yes cam to just no, just catch.
Speaker 4: I signed my rights to my masters over the cotch
Speaker 4: for the life term and ship like that.
Speaker 3: Is the president Alison there because you out of this
Speaker 3: not even called of it right now?
Speaker 4: Who more? But so you don't even got a building
Speaker 4: to run up and there's a building he I gotta
Speaker 4: I got a VL deal with a pace up the
Speaker 4: album comes out next month that we signed up there
Speaker 4: and things like that. So but then don't got nothing
Speaker 4: to do with I saw back then, but you know,
Speaker 4: legally and my lawyers starting to make calls and see
Speaker 4: what could be.
Speaker 3: You know, I done.
Speaker 4: Now.
Speaker 2: You didn't mention something I want to talk about because
Speaker 2: this has been a conversation for ten years, right you
Speaker 2: just mentioned he said that they tricked you out.
Speaker 3: Of it because they said bosses don't work for people.
Speaker 2: Right, And that's a conversation our community has. But I've
Speaker 2: been and I think Charloman have been trying to say
Speaker 2: for a long time you could be a boss and
Speaker 2: have a job but still do your thing on the side.
Speaker 4: Period is that's the whole permaniship of how they make
Speaker 4: you feel in certain situations and things like that. You
Speaker 4: got to know me from Harlem, and everybody got to
Speaker 4: weigh at certain people. I mean, but I knew better
Speaker 4: than that. So I pretty much tricked myself out of
Speaker 4: my own position. By I mean, I stand in ten
Speaker 4: toes on what I believe because I knew what I
Speaker 4: was there for. I knew what I could do inside
Speaker 4: of them buildings. I knew how ill I was and
Speaker 4: what I've done so far for diplomats by pitying this
Speaker 4: aesthetic and letting people see us in a way as superheroes.
Speaker 4: Like what I could do that for so many other artists,
Speaker 4: which I have. That's why I was able to get
Speaker 4: that job in there, because they was paying me a
Speaker 4: consultant fee at death Jam. You know, I was making
Speaker 4: like two hundred thousand dollars a year at Depth Jam
Speaker 4: as a consultant. And then when they left Deaf Jam
Speaker 4: and went to Warner, it was like pull up. I
Speaker 4: thought they were trying to give me a record deal.
Speaker 4: They was like, nah, we want you to be executive
Speaker 4: over here. Matter of fact, you run everything. So like
Speaker 4: people like uh, Joey II and Tom Mosk was all
Speaker 4: worked for me. They worked under me, like I was
Speaker 4: above all of them. The only person that had to
Speaker 4: talk to was Kevin Leows and Leo Cohen, Like, yeah, and.
Speaker 3: How did that deal matter?
Speaker 1: That makes so much sense for you?
Speaker 5: It's smart as you think about how you did video
Speaker 5: you used to direct the videos when you do music
Speaker 5: now like that makes so much.
Speaker 4: And through my loyalty, I was impressionable too, so when
Speaker 4: I was hearing things like that made me very rebellious
Speaker 4: aside them off of spaces and other I mean, but
Speaker 4: I definitely had to know how and the smarts to
Speaker 4: do the job. That was easy for me, you know
Speaker 4: what I mean? Or great great great experience though great
Speaker 4: experience the ASAP M. That's what he started as an
Speaker 4: intern for me, right loyal Carol Sibyl to I mean Karen,
Speaker 4: she was also turn for me. I've helped help jump
Speaker 4: start a lot of Cariz not only wrap Carierz inside
Speaker 4: of this industry.
Speaker 1: But you don't get no credit for that, they say,
Speaker 1: they say, all send people to jail.
Speaker 4: I don't want credit no more. I want debbit cash
Speaker 4: me out. How I send people to jail? That's what
Speaker 4: I'm saying. Wow, who did you see me sending to jail?
Speaker 4: Where is he? Nigga smoking they're smoking new drugs out here.
Speaker 4: You heard from where to how Who?
Speaker 1: That's what can said.
Speaker 4: I don't know it's a bird. He's a bird. Hed
Speaker 4: he don't want no smoke, telling him set to her
Speaker 4: boxer right, our boxes head off? Where's the ring at?
Speaker 4: You're getting money? Right, y'all? Do sports ten million right
Speaker 4: now today, nigga. I'll catch a flight wherever you at
Speaker 4: in the morning, I'll catch a flight wherever you at.
Speaker 4: You would make Wether and them ten million. I meet
Speaker 4: you in any boxing ring. Yeah, Now go make some
Speaker 4: jokes about that on your next show. I box your
Speaker 4: head off. You know that. Don't play with me? Yeah,
Speaker 4: now go type about that.
Speaker 3: Jim Chrisy would tell you take five second, christ five seconds.
Speaker 1: And not act like.
Speaker 3: Second.
Speaker 7: You've got time to make anything.
Speaker 1: Christy would.
Speaker 4: We're gonna bring it back. You know, all Jesus Disciples
Speaker 4: was gangsters though, right, Jesus flip table and I am
Speaker 4: a disciple.
Speaker 1: Remember that you did tell us about some of your
Speaker 1: new artists.
Speaker 5: Man like you see in song, he's on like he's
Speaker 5: on a few songs, white lines call on me.
Speaker 4: Been out here doing this thing for a minute though,
Speaker 4: I've been knowing Pacier for almost ten years now.
Speaker 3: Damn, I just remember pac did the story to cut
Speaker 3: you off.
Speaker 4: Pace did the last record fat Man School before he passed.
Speaker 3: Yes, damn God arrested.
Speaker 1: He got a little bit of pun in him.
Speaker 4: He got a little bit a lot of talking about
Speaker 4: he talented me. He got a lot of different ways
Speaker 4: of doing music, from rapping to having the harmony like
Speaker 4: I got no harmony in me.
Speaker 6: Before I knew who it was. Like the name, I
Speaker 6: thought it was kind of like a little a buggy.
Speaker 6: I didn't know when I first heard it.
Speaker 4: I thought, yeah, it's I mean, it's pay so but yeah,
Speaker 4: but I'm.
Speaker 7: Saying when I didn't know who you were.
Speaker 3: But nice to meet you.
Speaker 4: But go ahead now, Suster king King streets, hands down,
Speaker 4: ball for ball. I think that he'll smoke anybody in
Speaker 4: the in the streets boots period. And I put the
Speaker 4: money at the house and everything right now, they'll cold
Speaker 4: meet me tomorrow also at the boxing match, if you'll
Speaker 4: want to with the bag and we have kan alight,
Speaker 4: I'm being petty. I got to. I got to man,
Speaker 4: it's entertaining right when they entertained, It's all it's all funny. Games.
Speaker 4: I'm entertaining them. My album come out on Friday.
Speaker 1: I'm coming out.
Speaker 4: That is what's up? My album come out on Friday.
Speaker 4: What's up?
Speaker 3: I just wanted to clear up everything I hurt.
Speaker 1: So look, does that really sell records?
Speaker 4: Though?
Speaker 1: Because you know they always hit. We always hear the
Speaker 1: story about Jim wanted to fake a beef.
Speaker 4: They say faking. I will box your head off tomorrow
Speaker 4: when you wake up. If you want from ten million,
Speaker 4: you heard and we got it the cover too. Jack,
Speaker 4: What does freak saying? What is freaky you say? I
Speaker 4: don't know. Freak freak bugging me out right now? You
Speaker 4: heard freaking a crazy position right now. But I want
Speaker 4: him to get his money and do whatever business moves
Speaker 4: he need to do. You did, That's the way, maryor freak.
Speaker 4: He always gonna be my brother for life, No freak
Speaker 4: for a very long.
Speaker 1: Time when you're wearing the hat. And that's what we
Speaker 1: all wanted to coach you too, like make yeah, make
Speaker 1: dips that great again, like.
Speaker 4: I'm doing that. I've been doing that. You heard, got
Speaker 4: some fire records out every time and see me it's dipset.
Speaker 4: You heard Big Jomo in the building. You heard everybody
Speaker 4: want to make Dipsa great tell him to make Dipsad
Speaker 4: great again. I always show up for everything all it
Speaker 4: shows everything. Whenever it's diplomata, something there, you heard. Whenever
Speaker 4: you talk about diplomats, something there. For the last ten years,
Speaker 4: when you say diplomats, who pop out? Who's been there?
Speaker 4: Who's been keeping a bird in the sky? Anytime you're
Speaker 4: seeing the diplomat reunion, who's the reason for the diplomat
Speaker 4: reunion happen? And you better do the research. It's always
Speaker 4: been me you heard, and a lot of times that
Speaker 4: has stopped me from the motion that I had instead
Speaker 4: of me continue I gotta worry about me right now.
Speaker 6: After the last after the verses reunion, I feel like
Speaker 6: we I thought that everything was like good and then
Speaker 6: it got like randomly just got like Rocky again, Like where.
Speaker 4: Does that verses? Weak man? Man? Because he got booed
Speaker 4: and we lost man, Just tell the truth.
Speaker 7: That's what you fell out about again. It's not that
Speaker 7: it can't be that. No, that was a joke.
Speaker 4: He got booed, he forgot his free Yeah.
Speaker 6: But I'm saying because when we were up here trying
Speaker 6: to figure out like what reignited all of the whatever
Speaker 6: this is, we remember that like it was after the verses.
Speaker 7: It can't just be that.
Speaker 4: I don't care about done. You heard. That's the difference
Speaker 4: between me. I don't take none of the shit personal, bro.
Speaker 4: I could take loss of walk off and laugh at it.
Speaker 4: I'm gonna still go home to the house that I
Speaker 4: live in and love life. You heard. Like people take
Speaker 4: things too literal, like these people getting this rap game
Speaker 4: and be mad that they didn't have the number one
Speaker 4: album them. They want to cut their riskin all. I
Speaker 4: don't care about none of that. Shout out to Jada
Speaker 4: and them. They was on top of the game. They
Speaker 4: knew what they came to do. You know, he was ready,
Speaker 4: you did us not so much us not so much ready,
Speaker 4: But you know you want something you lose them. But
Speaker 4: what's up? Who want to do it versus with me?
Speaker 4: Right now? Yeah? That'd be a good good Who would
Speaker 4: you want to do it versus against any one of them?
Speaker 4: Pull it up New York. I love all my brothers
Speaker 4: in New York, but you can pull them up no
Speaker 4: matter who it is. Who would you say? Who you here?
Speaker 4: I got a real catalog. I just had a gold
Speaker 4: record last year. I mean, I mean we could go back.
Speaker 4: I got twenty records for every year. We can start
Speaker 4: from twenty years ago. I gave him one record for
Speaker 4: each year all the way up to now.
Speaker 5: Coppo versus Styles p He don't got enough catalog for that.
Speaker 5: I've got a lot of catalog, not.
Speaker 4: Not a commercial catalog. He's not going, He's not going,
Speaker 4: He's not gonna last. I mean, I love Styles did
Speaker 4: set it up.
Speaker 1: If it depends, what if it's just solo records, that'd
Speaker 1: be a good one for y'all.
Speaker 4: I got more solo records than most of them that
Speaker 4: really remember that you did, like, I got a lot
Speaker 4: of gold singles and a lot of I got some
Speaker 4: action with me. It's gonna be hard for a lot
Speaker 4: of people from New York who win with Capito and
Speaker 4: I got freestyles I could, I could I have in
Speaker 4: New York City. It's gonna be hard. I would say
Speaker 4: that for anybody you know on the record.
Speaker 3: Sounds like he wanted to do with fifty That's what
Speaker 3: it sounds.
Speaker 4: That sounds like you don't want to do nothing with
Speaker 4: that sucker. You're me leave him out of the conversation
Speaker 4: on purpose. They did.
Speaker 6: New York and that's the only one that has a
Speaker 6: He was thinking, and I just didn't want to say
Speaker 6: it because you got catalog. There's no because when I
Speaker 6: when you said think about it, I'm trying to think
Speaker 6: who else, even just commercially would have a big enough,
Speaker 6: big enough songs consistently to even But you know it.
Speaker 3: Has Platinum Records, Gold Records, Number one records. It's not
Speaker 3: too many in New York.
Speaker 1: Listen after Church Steps Man.
Speaker 3: No, No, that whole a whole got that type of catalog.
Speaker 3: Now it's got the type of artists like that.
Speaker 7: No, but they I feel like even like you would
Speaker 7: have to bring it super.
Speaker 3: Great you can't do because you talked about.
Speaker 4: Right there say nope, nope. Anybody else but you gonna
Speaker 4: hope is you can't. One thing we're not gonna do
Speaker 4: is front of the hole. He did what he's supposed
Speaker 4: to out here, Like it's going to be very hard
Speaker 4: for anybody to beat him in some type of verses.
Speaker 3: I don't think anybody can.
Speaker 4: Who who's the lineup? You know, I love Drizzy, you did,
Speaker 4: but a versus gonna be, it's gonna be. There's a
Speaker 4: lot of variables to that that's a dog fight, you
Speaker 4: know what I mean. But as far as I'm concerned
Speaker 4: you right now, and well, man, I would do I'm
Speaker 4: saying I want to do it. But that was that
Speaker 4: was the play that Swiss felt like he had a bag.
Speaker 4: I need triple what I had last time to where
Speaker 4: we put that verses on fire too. We had that
Speaker 4: thing looking like a championship game. Yes, Swiss, holl that man.
Speaker 4: You backdoored me and gave that man some business that
Speaker 4: you ain't give all of us. You definitely gotta give
Speaker 4: me triple Swiss, and you gotta give me some real
Speaker 4: business this time. See that's the funny thing about this game.
Speaker 4: You heard, like y'all don't talk about the back door
Speaker 4: and that's going on for the verses that anybody keep killing.
Speaker 4: But well, yeah, yeah, I wanted to bag, you heard,
Speaker 4: But we got the bag. But boy still went back door,
Speaker 4: like yo, for us for me to do the verses,
Speaker 4: you got to give me part of this business that
Speaker 4: had nothing to do with us, you heard. But he say,
Speaker 4: that's me being a business man now as you being
Speaker 4: a sucker doing back door shit. You hurt, But nobody
Speaker 4: won't talk about that. I know, I ain't no back
Speaker 4: door ass nigga. You heard, I stand on ten do's
Speaker 4: and I break bread with my niggas period. That's always
Speaker 4: who I've been. Who are not her? Has never been
Speaker 4: an artist that took advantage of you heard. I really
Speaker 4: put money in all of my artists pocket that I
Speaker 4: deal with, and all my niggas we get money together.
Speaker 4: Not one of them type of dudes. Bro.
Speaker 7: You heard when you went the camp about that. He
Speaker 7: said that, like it's just me being a businessman.
Speaker 4: No, Swiss told me how to tell Swiss. I know
Speaker 4: what was going on. Jack, call Swiss on the line.
Speaker 4: They tell you I did bad. You know, Swiss, my
Speaker 4: brother zones zone zone with something I'm not talking about.
Speaker 4: I'm talking about actual factual.
Speaker 3: How did you find out about it then?
Speaker 4: Because I found out about a lot. Yeah, that didn't
Speaker 4: don't matter. What the matter is is. I got to
Speaker 4: the bottom of it to see if it was true.
Speaker 4: Course Swiss. Yeah, but that's the ship that we deal with,
Speaker 4: you heard, that's the ship that people don't know about
Speaker 4: when they be looking at me like I'm bugging out,
Speaker 4: I'm bugging out. We can go down the list. When
Speaker 4: I got time for that.
Speaker 3: You talk about that a lot getting back door A
Speaker 3: lot paused with with who.
Speaker 4: Let's get the back door word out? Said that word?
Speaker 4: I know, Mann, we take it back, give me racing ship,
Speaker 4: all right? Come on.
Speaker 2: So the reason I asked that, it's like, if that's
Speaker 2: happened a couple of times, pause, why not stop it
Speaker 2: from the door?
Speaker 3: Like I can never do business with them again because
Speaker 3: they keep doing it.
Speaker 2: It's like first time you got me, second time, third
Speaker 2: time you say multiple times, it's like, fuck.
Speaker 4: I mean, you did what you deal with. Bro You
Speaker 4: heard my lord t goes way be yond. That's a
Speaker 4: lot you did.
Speaker 3: As long as you stopped as an hours, it's still there.
Speaker 4: I'm loyal to the bird. I'm loyal to the bird.
Speaker 4: Anybody lottal to the bird that we fly high. You
Speaker 4: heard you ain't loyal to the bird. We gonna clip
Speaker 4: your ways. You heard You're gonna be there and there
Speaker 4: like a pigeon. Niggas New York City nigga, what's up? Serious?
Speaker 4: I'm serious about that bird. I put my life in
Speaker 4: my heart into it. Broa put my life on the
Speaker 4: line about that bird. People playing with and things like that.
Speaker 4: It's never been about money for me been about the unity.
Speaker 4: You've been about the family, You've been about what we
Speaker 4: could build together. I'm not perfect at all, but I'm
Speaker 4: the perfect example of what you could be by staying down.
Speaker 4: And that's what I did, no matter what we all
Speaker 4: go through. What we go through, you heard, but above all,
Speaker 4: I stayed there for that bird, as I'm still doing now.
Speaker 4: I criticized that on a.
Speaker 3: Call on me.
Speaker 5: You talk about a conversation you had with Puff right
Speaker 5: before they sent them to get him, Like, what was
Speaker 5: that last conversation?
Speaker 4: That's the big bro. It was a great time.
Speaker 5: I mean you said you asked him bout his rich friends.
Speaker 5: Now the acting like he did to him. But when
Speaker 5: that loyalty get molded, you can see what the bread
Speaker 5: with the bread wants with the bread ruins with bread ruins.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, when that little to get moldy, I mean,
Speaker 4: I mean, and I don't get into nobody Bennessy, that's
Speaker 4: the d man. He's did a lot for the game.
Speaker 4: I don't want to get into all that. But he
Speaker 4: did come up till the day before they came and
Speaker 4: got him, and he set uptown with me for five
Speaker 4: or six hours right on Lennox five said he felt
Speaker 4: like he was in Caprix on the yacht. Just the
Speaker 4: freedom of being uptanning and no judgment is on in
Speaker 4: the middle of a hood where we don't judge because
Speaker 4: people going through their own shit up here, you know
Speaker 4: what I mean. So there's some normalcy in there for
Speaker 4: him and things like that, and he just sat down
Speaker 4: and enjoyed hisself. He had a good conversation with me.
Speaker 4: I had a good conversation with him, uplifting conversation and
Speaker 4: spiritual conversation, you know what I mean. I know Diddy
Speaker 4: for half half my life and things like that. Always
Speaker 4: been big brother. And I know he's going through a
Speaker 4: lot right now, you know what I mean. So I
Speaker 4: do wish him the best. I don't want nobody come
Speaker 4: down to me, try to cancel me all this. I mean,
Speaker 4: I ain't with none of that. Brother, God bless you, bro,
Speaker 4: you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: What was it about that moment that made you want
Speaker 1: to put it down on paper on the recording?
Speaker 4: Just living life? And the record came on, Pat did
Speaker 4: the hook, and that's where we was at with it.
Speaker 4: I just did it the same night, you know what
Speaker 4: I mean, or the next night, whatever it was. It
Speaker 4: was still on my mind. It was heavy on my heart.
Speaker 4: I mean, the best way for me to express I'm
Speaker 4: going through is usually through the music, and I don't
Speaker 4: want to touch too much on it.
Speaker 5: But you know, I mean when he got picked up
Speaker 5: the next day, you remember, do you like, oh ship
Speaker 5: like just with him yesterday?
Speaker 4: I mean, yeah, like that shouts today, prob let's get
Speaker 4: his sons. Yeah to the next man shouts to them.
Speaker 4: I mean, Christian got a dope record together.
Speaker 3: Too, Man or Christian? What do you want to have
Speaker 3: the album?
Speaker 4: What I want to hear off the album?
Speaker 3: The label will say the single, but you are the label.
Speaker 3: But what do you want to hear besides that?
Speaker 4: It's either gonna be make It Out or Genesis.
Speaker 1: You know, it's crazy. I thought that was Tory Lanez
Speaker 1: gonna make it up.
Speaker 4: That's Ronnie, that's a young Bird's cousin also in his artist.
Speaker 1: Yeah I didn't. I mean, I'm looking at the track, Lis.
Speaker 4: I just heard that Jackson m r K Monarch, Monarch,
Speaker 4: that's the name of that's the new Cosch probably forgetting
Speaker 4: your name, but that's the new Cosch. Monarch has brought
Speaker 4: Cotch out and things like that. But so it's like
Speaker 4: Genesis is the number two record or bigger play make
Speaker 4: it Out? So which which one you want to hear?
Speaker 1: Mm hmmm for radio ers? Do make it out?
Speaker 4: For radio?
Speaker 1: I like Genesis, Genesis hard.
Speaker 4: Let's do make it out.
Speaker 3: We do Joe Mo and make it out.
Speaker 4: Joe won't make it I love Joe Moon. That's a
Speaker 4: great record. Man, got a lot of bop to it.
Speaker 4: Good music music when you get I mean mirror music
Speaker 4: when you're getting dressed. You shot the video twice for that.
Speaker 4: Oh no. I shot the video in La when I
Speaker 4: was in La, and then I came back and I
Speaker 4: shot the video here, and then I was just shooting
Speaker 4: like little clips. So I was shooting all the other videos.
Speaker 3: Because you did.
Speaker 2: You made me upset with that one, right because you
Speaker 2: put it out. Then I couldn't get it right. Then
Speaker 2: you put the video out, so I ripped it off
Speaker 2: the video and then you put the video down.
Speaker 4: Yeah, because that was that was so I was making
Speaker 4: doing these little clips. Now these kids do these little
Speaker 4: promo clips for ig and somebody actually put it up
Speaker 4: as a video like nah, bro, take that down. That's
Speaker 4: not the real video. So we had to put it
Speaker 4: put video.
Speaker 1: I do want to ask you one that course, and
Speaker 1: could love trick you off the street?
Speaker 4: Gym?
Speaker 1: And that's what I mean by that.
Speaker 5: I feel like there's nothing any stranger could ever say
Speaker 5: to you to make you do anything at this point
Speaker 5: in your life. But the people you've actually loved and
Speaker 5: rolled for and been loyal to could.
Speaker 4: Trick you off the street. Loyalty could trick you off
Speaker 4: the street, definitely. And it's almost tricked me off the
Speaker 4: street a few times in the midst of my journey
Speaker 4: by being loyal to a floor. Love is crazy thing,
Speaker 4: and it depends on what type of love you're talking about. Uh,
Speaker 4: love could fuck up your emotion if you're not disciplined
Speaker 4: in the household and know that you have a job
Speaker 4: to do, especially and at a job like we have,
Speaker 4: it's not easy getting up and leaving the house and
Speaker 4: not home as much as you need to be, and
Speaker 4: I mean not spending the time you need to be
Speaker 4: and things like that. But you know this is something
Speaker 4: a mission that you have to accomplish else your family can't.
Speaker 4: I mean, so it gets tricky. At that time, you
Speaker 4: start to feel bad and you start to feel all
Speaker 4: type you know what I mean, but you gotta stay
Speaker 4: in your dean. Man. It's gonna be cold out here,
Speaker 4: so you gotta get that bag. Man. I mean, the
Speaker 4: family is gonna be there when you get back, and
Speaker 4: you gotta figure out how to make time for the
Speaker 4: ones you love. Also, you know what I mean. So
Speaker 4: there's a balance.
Speaker 1: You know that Cam calls you to day and can says, look, man,
Speaker 1: we're better than this. Let's let's let's let'st.
Speaker 7: Breath.
Speaker 1: This is you and you and Cam. He called you
Speaker 1: and said, yoh, we better than this.
Speaker 4: I'm I'm pettied in this. Hey, I'm taking a petty
Speaker 4: right now. I just don't have no conversation with nobody.
Speaker 4: Worry about Dromo. Bro, It's nothing to worry about the
Speaker 4: moment to talk about, bro, unless you want to box
Speaker 4: for that ten million, because I could use ten million.
Speaker 4: None to talk about, Bro, I don't want to talk
Speaker 4: about nothing. Bro. It's none to talk about, not right now.
Speaker 4: I just say, for life is right now. I don't
Speaker 4: have nothing to talk about. I got other things that
Speaker 4: I'm doing. I got businesses that I'm attended to. They
Speaker 4: getting their money. I'm getting my money too. Heard I'm
Speaker 4: doing I'm doing pretty good out here with man Slow
Speaker 4: were doing okay, baby. I'm not to say it like that,
Speaker 4: but you know, just but I got a lot of
Speaker 4: things that I'm doing, and I got no time to
Speaker 4: be interrupted my time or my or my mental space
Speaker 4: to deal with anything but what I got going on,
Speaker 4: because that might take away and that might start making
Speaker 4: me crashing for doing things that I'm not supposed to
Speaker 4: be doing.
Speaker 7: I mean, people have people tried to put y'all on
Speaker 7: the phone since all of it? Nah, nobody Nah.
Speaker 5: The only reason I say that because life is short,
Speaker 5: and you know, you see people at funerals now and
Speaker 5: you're like, damn, what they cool is just the first
Speaker 5: time that they've seen each other since he passed, Like,
Speaker 5: I pop.
Speaker 4: Out to his FUNERALO God.
Speaker 3: Damn, you set yourself up to that. You said right now,
Speaker 3: Maybe next year he feel differently saying, God.
Speaker 4: Forbid, I'm gonna pop out to the funeral if that's
Speaker 4: the case. You did so. I got love for him.
Speaker 4: I ain't gonna miss that, heard, but right now, I
Speaker 4: ain't gonna miss my opportunity to get into this motion
Speaker 4: that I got going on. Album. On Friday, we got
Speaker 4: a movie coming out next month at the church steps.
Speaker 4: So I said, all the people that's in the movie
Speaker 4: had a good time with that one. You did, like,
Speaker 4: I'm just trying to stay down this line tunnel vision
Speaker 4: you heard, like we all seen a different aside of
Speaker 4: me where you know what I mean, Like, let me
Speaker 4: stay here, you heard, Let me stay out of these
Speaker 4: people way you heard. Let me keep doing my music.
Speaker 4: Let me just keep doing the things that got me
Speaker 4: feeling good, looking good, and things that people respected me for,
Speaker 4: not entertaining any bullshit. Let me stay here.
Speaker 6: You're still doing the sobriety thing. What you mean, just
Speaker 6: because you had to yea happy in those videos too?
Speaker 4: Yeah, all right, So I would say this, I mean,
Speaker 4: of course you can. You can find smoke anywhere, but
Speaker 4: the consequences for smoking in Japan are very dear not
Speaker 4: to saying I wouldn't saying. So I think about this now,
Speaker 4: I get some garbage smoke out there, and smoking in
Speaker 4: Japan end up getting in trouble for smoking some garbage.
Speaker 4: I'm double mad smoked some weak ass Japan with but
Speaker 4: I had a great time. But it was funny. So
Speaker 4: I smoked. So much of my life me is being
Speaker 4: sober turned into a high like I was now like this.
Speaker 4: After the second day, I was chasing that that feeling
Speaker 4: like I was like, yo, it just felt I was
Speaker 4: like dancing. I'm like, you know, it was just a
Speaker 4: whole different energy. I was like, Yo, this is way crazy.
Speaker 4: So I respected the being sober for a week and
Speaker 4: for a week so he's no. But since I've came back,
Speaker 4: I've smokeing tremendously less. Since I came back, Like I smoked,
Speaker 4: I've smoked out of my time. But I find myself
Speaker 4: smoking two to three blunts a day, and anybody that
Speaker 4: knows me, you know, that's like, damn it, not even smoking,
Speaker 4: you know what I mean? And hopefully I phase out
Speaker 4: of that too. That the back was not good for me.
Speaker 4: I'm getting a little bit older, things changing for me.
Speaker 4: I mean, I like to stay healthy. Being in shape
Speaker 4: is like a form of the fountain of youth for me,
Speaker 4: you know. I mean, I'm trying. I'm trying to live forever,
Speaker 4: be the first one.
Speaker 6: Too and my last one before you get out of here.
Speaker 6: Why does it Internet always trying to break you in?
Speaker 6: Christy up, like the way.
Speaker 4: You're talking about her baby right now? According to that,
Speaker 4: I got married. I got married the other month to
Speaker 4: somebody else, which was crazy straight out the blue, like
Speaker 4: then now we got a baby. I don't know. You know,
Speaker 4: we all the media don't get to us, man, Like
Speaker 4: you tell yourself. It's a shock value. I mean when
Speaker 4: sometimes you hear something out of the blue, you're like, no,
Speaker 4: they tripping.
Speaker 6: But most part, are you ever be having to tell
Speaker 6: her put your phone down breed where you pick your
Speaker 6: phone back up like she did for you or does
Speaker 6: for you?
Speaker 4: I have to tell her that in a lot of
Speaker 4: other situations she don't really engage on ILG like that.
Speaker 4: I mean more or less. I'm more the one that
Speaker 4: they're talking about on ILG or whatever. But other situations
Speaker 4: she could be hot as people seeing her to be.
Speaker 4: But she's definitely a dope.
Speaker 5: Wa this generation, No Christy can fight. This generation don't
Speaker 5: really know Gym can fight. They've seen Christy in action.
Speaker 3: On TV.
Speaker 4: Yeah, let's try that one. Please. I ain't got no
Speaker 4: fight of me, so please, it's gonna get scary. Let's
Speaker 4: let's let's just I mean, let's let's keep me, keep
Speaker 4: me wear man. I don't I don't want to do
Speaker 4: nothing aggressive, man, I want to just get this money.
Speaker 4: I want to stay down the line. This is entertainment.
Speaker 4: Anything you heard today it was all alleged nothing, you know.
Speaker 4: I mean, it's just me goofing off having fun. But
Speaker 4: if you do have ten million for the boxing match,
Speaker 4: you can set that up in the meantime. The album
Speaker 4: comes out at the Church Steps on this Friday, Friday,
Speaker 4: February twenty. I will be at South of con Fuego
Speaker 4: on Sunday. Listen to me. I don't know if you've
Speaker 4: ever been, there's feel like Jimmy's cafe. So for you
Speaker 4: young ones that never been there with Jimmy cafes around,
Speaker 4: get there early real form. We come in to crunch
Speaker 4: the building. I mean crunch me and French shouts to self,
Speaker 4: self and DJ and all my life. I don't know
Speaker 4: if I should I don't know if I'm allowed to
Speaker 4: call him my DJ. How should I approach it? Be like, yo,
Speaker 4: you know self, my DJ? I can say so many
Speaker 4: times has he called you to come and pull up
Speaker 4: y selves my DJ? We did about ten shows in
Speaker 4: this past month together. About that, you know what I mean.
Speaker 4: So we're getting our show together and we're coming to
Speaker 4: crunch the building. On Sunday, so please show up early.
Speaker 4: I appreciate all the love for and support from New
Speaker 4: York that we've been getting. Hey, like I said, I
Speaker 4: ain't perfect, but I'm out here. Shouts to hallom. You know,
Speaker 4: I love your to death. Shouts to all my family,
Speaker 4: Shouts to pay so the artists, hold me up, man,
Speaker 4: you did hold us damn No more, hold us up.
Speaker 7: Now they just start hitting the dance and the wave.
Speaker 4: That's another record. I want to say this, shouts to
Speaker 4: the young girl Lailor, because I believe there was a
Speaker 4: big problem mix up with that record. I did not
Speaker 4: know it was this girl's record. I thought it was
Speaker 4: cash co Page and I told nephew, y'a, I'm gonna
Speaker 4: do my own version of the record. I'm a remix
Speaker 4: and I wanted you to do it. He's like, I
Speaker 4: just do all right. So I wanted the whole thing
Speaker 4: over and things like that. I mean, I didn't know.
Speaker 4: So I just wanted to apologize for her for thinking
Speaker 4: thinking of anything like I stole your record. But in
Speaker 4: New York we do our own versions of records all
Speaker 4: the time and things like that, and sometimes they catch life.
Speaker 4: But I didn't know she was most step daughter shots
Speaker 4: the most steph No, that lawyer called me. I respect
Speaker 4: the business sense and things like that, and hopefully we
Speaker 4: can figure the whole situation out. Hopefully this room for
Speaker 4: me to do something for her that I could make
Speaker 4: it right. I can't tell you this, baby girl. I
Speaker 4: wouldn't lose a bag over somebody telling you what's not right,
Speaker 4: you know, I mean, like, it's the opportunity if you
Speaker 4: do good business here, you better get this money from
Speaker 4: the record, because as you say, it's the interpolation is this,
Speaker 4: So get the bag. You're like, I'm not mad at you.
Speaker 4: Call my phone. I give you to check that record,
Speaker 4: you know what I mean?
Speaker 1: But I told you that Cash would have been like yo,
Speaker 1: you know ye the record.
Speaker 4: You know you know Cash young out here busting. You
Speaker 4: heard tell him something like yeah, yeah, uncles do unkle
Speaker 4: whatever you know, I mean, like listening tonk like that
Speaker 4: to start busting. And now here we go. But shouts
Speaker 4: the cash shots the Bay Swags, Shot shouts the Bay swag,
Speaker 4: big big queens in the building, shouts the slow Bucks
Speaker 4: house to slow m Bucks, shouts to all my family members. Man,
Speaker 4: we got a extensive network out here in the city.
Speaker 4: Shouts to the lobby boys. Hey man, it's been fun man,
Speaker 4: shouts everybody here. You know, I appreciate you for having me.
Speaker 4: It's not easy getting up on the breakfast club, so
Speaker 4: anytime I'm up here is definitely feel like I'm a star,
Speaker 4: you know.
Speaker 1: And congrats on another great body of work.
Speaker 4: That's the absolutely than I appreciate you for always holding
Speaker 4: me up to when it comes to the music, my
Speaker 4: business sense, my musical like you are one of the
Speaker 4: few people that have advocating for me on this type
Speaker 4: a platform and letting people know how l I am
Speaker 4: of a person. I mean, so I definitely appreciate anything
Speaker 4: else I'm missing.
Speaker 7: I feel you got everything.
Speaker 4: Oh who, what's what's your favorite song? That was a
Speaker 4: good question because they might be they might just.
Speaker 7: Be reading I listened to all the time all the time.
Speaker 7: I actually put that on one of my church seven
Speaker 7: church steps take it out.
Speaker 1: Like Genesis, Uh, what's going on with Davies?
Speaker 5: I like, you know, you know they listen, but I
Speaker 5: like when you're on them type of records, it's like
Speaker 5: the samples you be using, like Status selected, did he did?
Speaker 4: Joe? The funny thing about that that record is seven
Speaker 4: years old. So what the day that boy did all
Speaker 4: of that on the internet, it said, And I'm on
Speaker 4: my phone looking for something else on the notes. I'm
Speaker 4: just going through the notes, end up going to the bottom,
Speaker 4: and I end up pressing. I just pressed it and
Speaker 4: it came on Jimmy Joel. I was like m and
Speaker 4: it start going off. I'm like, to god, I paid
Speaker 4: it for my a andr like my bucket, like nah,
Speaker 4: load this up.
Speaker 6: It was no even when you did it was like
Speaker 6: the I don't know if it was Blacker or it
Speaker 6: was one of them platforms. When you did that on
Speaker 6: one of those platforms and I was just watching perform it,
Speaker 6: I was like, oh, yeah, this is this is the one. Yeah,
Speaker 6: you could tell if you're you're in a good space
Speaker 6: right now.
Speaker 4: It feels like, yeah, it feels good. It feels good.
Speaker 4: I mean, it feels good to be able to do
Speaker 4: music this far and in my in my career and
Speaker 4: still getting respected as a dope MC, still respected for
Speaker 4: my fashion sense still. I mean like I got my
Speaker 4: own little wave out here. So I appreciate that, man, man,
Speaker 4: I appreciate that very much. I appreciate New York City really,
Speaker 4: Like if you know me. You know I'm a New
Speaker 4: York period. You did so Ivy. All my music it's
Speaker 4: New York music, no matter how far it reaches. First
Speaker 4: it starts with me. I don't put no music out
Speaker 4: that I don't like myself if it don't hits me
Speaker 4: the way I needed to hit the nine. And then
Speaker 4: after that, I'm in New York. All my records, all
Speaker 4: my albums about my experiences that started from New York
Speaker 4: and New York. Body you're working, I mean, matter how
Speaker 4: far reach so. I really love my town. You know
Speaker 4: what I mean. You're gonna keep putting on as long
Speaker 4: as I can. You heard Dip said VL that thing
Speaker 4: don't change man, February twenty. If y'all go, get the
Speaker 4: album at the church steps. Appreciate everybody that participated in
Speaker 4: the hour.
Speaker 2: There you have it, ladies and gentlemen. Jones take off
Speaker 2: my guy absolutely, Jim Jones.
Speaker 1: It's the Breakfast Club.
Speaker 4: Good morning, Boom, Wake that ass up in the morning.
Speaker 1: Breakfast Club