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Speaker 1: Wake that ass up in the morning.

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Speaker 2: The Breakfast Club, Morning everybody, it's the e j env

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Speaker 2: just hilarious. Charlamagne the guy. We are the Breakfast Club

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Speaker 2: just as out today. Lor l Rosa is feeling in

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Speaker 2: and we got a special guest in the building. His

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Speaker 2: album is out this Friday. At the Church Steps. You

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Speaker 2: done did it again, man, cap Old, ladies and gentlemen.

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Speaker 3: Jim Jones, what with you'll welcome? How are you feeling?

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Speaker 4: I'm feeling pretty good. I can't complain.

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Speaker 1: Man, you make some good ass music.

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Speaker 5: I done told you this a million times, but at

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Speaker 5: some point you would think there'd be some type of

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Speaker 5: fall off or something, but it just has not been

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Speaker 5: at all. Like at the Church Steps is a phenomenal,

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Speaker 5: phenomenal body of work.

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Speaker 4: Man, God is good.

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Speaker 3: So let's let's get into the mind frame.

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Speaker 2: Because we were talking behind the scenes and we was like,

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Speaker 2: he knows how to make music.

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Speaker 1: Yes, you know what I was comparing it to. I

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Speaker 1: was comparing it to Rick Ross, Like Rick Ross just music.

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Speaker 5: We got a great ear and he always got fire

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Speaker 5: and you you the same way.

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Speaker 4: Thank you, man. I appreciate that. That's big. That's big.

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Speaker 4: That's big. I was I wash the whole world to

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Speaker 4: see it like.

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Speaker 3: That, And why why don't you think they see it

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Speaker 3: like that?

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Speaker 4: I don't know, man. You know, I always been an

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Speaker 4: independent artist. I didn't have most of the promo that

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Speaker 4: most of the major artists have and things like that.

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Speaker 4: You're going to go. But it feels good to be

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Speaker 4: where I'm at right now. I think I'm in a

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Speaker 4: unique place for how long I've been in the game

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Speaker 4: and to be able to navigate with the youngsters and

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Speaker 4: still have my core fair base and and some new

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Speaker 4: so it's dope. I mean, I'm engaged. I'm embracing the

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Speaker 4: new wave of marketing through technology and digital stuff like that.

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Speaker 4: So you know, it's giving me a real jump on

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Speaker 4: what I got going on.

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Speaker 3: And what keeps you there?

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Speaker 4: Is it?

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Speaker 3: Is it your son? Is it being outside?

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Speaker 2: Because Jim sends Meet Records a lot throughout the year,

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Speaker 2: and like Charlamagne said, it always sounds relevant. It's not

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Speaker 2: like it's not relevant even if it's an older, little

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Speaker 2: classic field, but it also has a classic field. So

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Speaker 2: what keeps you in that zone?

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Speaker 4: I'm a classic hustler, I mean, I mean, but if

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Speaker 4: I don't live life, then I wouldn't be able to

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Speaker 4: continue to do my music the way my hustle is

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Speaker 4: set up and things like that. As far as going

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Speaker 4: outside of getting the money feed my family is, it

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Speaker 4: still has me outside, So that's a big reflection on

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Speaker 4: the music. And then you know, I have artists, they

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Speaker 4: all younger than me, so I get to see how

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Speaker 4: they live in and I live vicariously through them. So

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Speaker 4: it's a lot going on. And then you know, I

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Speaker 4: love the younger generation and people that's coming up. I

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Speaker 4: always like to give them a help of hand. So

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Speaker 4: in turn it's a full service. We help each ovel

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Speaker 4: our way. Hand watch the other, both hand watch the face.

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Speaker 4: But the urgency of music for me is like, you know,

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Speaker 4: besides everything else. When you're a person that comes from rap,

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Speaker 4: ain't nothing like having a hit record that helps everything

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Speaker 4: that's out tremendously, And when you got that cool behind you,

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Speaker 4: it's like none you can't do. And the business stuff

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Speaker 4: coming company starts. I mean, so it always starts with

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Speaker 4: the music. And you can ask anybody who does music.

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Speaker 5: It's harder to make like the records you got on

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Speaker 5: like the at the Church steps Aultum, like the Joe

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Speaker 5: Mo and the Genesis, just those dope street records. It's

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Speaker 5: harder to make those are a hit single, like a.

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Speaker 4: Ball hit single, like a Balling because the records that

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Speaker 4: you hear is a reflection of things that are really

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Speaker 4: going through if you listen to the music and things

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Speaker 4: like that, like you know what I mean. So it's

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Speaker 4: like it's very easy for me to talk about actual,

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Speaker 4: real things that you know, I mean, But you got

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Speaker 4: them records that you need for getting lit in the

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Speaker 4: club and things like that. Sometimes those are the hardest

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Speaker 3: You know, do you chase Balling though?

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Speaker 2: Do you chase that record, try to make a bigger record,

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Speaker 2: or do you just make records to say if it

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Speaker 4: Would after the successive Balling, I used to chase Balling, damn,

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Speaker 4: like I gotta findle I mean. And then slowly but

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Speaker 4: surely I got out of that phase of just trying

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Speaker 4: to chase Balling and make music that I continue to

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Speaker 4: make money. I mean, And I do believe I hit

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Speaker 4: to come, and a few hits came since Balling.

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Speaker 5: You had one, But to your point, I guess you

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Speaker 5: didn't have the label behind it, the joint And then

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Speaker 5: and then away, Yes, I should have been out of

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Speaker 4: Then so I show you how it goes. So Wayne

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Speaker 4: had put a record out similar to that, like a

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Speaker 4: little bit after that, where he was singing and stuff,

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Speaker 4: and I was like, but it's the support sometimes and

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Speaker 4: you know just how the game go. But yeah, I

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Speaker 4: have some dope records that I'm proud of. Whether they

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Speaker 4: ain't get the platinum success or the success that I wanted,

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Speaker 4: but I'm definitely proud of all my music to still

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Speaker 4: be here coming up to the Breakfast club all these

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Speaker 4: years later from where I started, it's definitely incredible.

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Speaker 3: I was talking to Lauren before you got a pair.

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Speaker 2: We was talking about an interview you did and you

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Speaker 2: said you spent twenty million dollars the time of ball

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Speaker 2: and you ran through twenty million. Yeah, And I was,

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Speaker 2: and I was counting your pockets. I was like, Jim

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Speaker 2: loves calls, but he ain't love calls like that. Right then,

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Speaker 2: I said, Jim loves houses, but here you love houses

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Speaker 2: like that. Jim has jewelry, but not twenty million dollars worth.

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Speaker 2: Where did you spend the twenty million dollars just.

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Speaker 4: Just spending and living? Like my credit cars sometimes like

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Speaker 4: one hundred and twenty thousand dollars a month, you heard.

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Speaker 4: And I ain't got nothing to do with the every

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Speaker 3: So I know it was a lot of PJ he

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Speaker 3: was on. He was PJ king at one time.

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Speaker 4: This is what I'm trying to say. So if you

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Speaker 4: jumping on the jet all these times, and your jet

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Speaker 4: build some time might be half a million month just

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Speaker 4: because you trying to get place, it's all added up.

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Speaker 4: Is not like I spent it like it was just

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Speaker 4: the accumulation during the ball of the error. Through those

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Speaker 4: and I was blowing it. And as I looked back

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Speaker 4: thinking about the money that was spending, came on to

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Speaker 4: about twenty years routine the deal money to show money

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Speaker 4: to all money feature money, like I'm burning through that shit,

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Speaker 4: you know what I mean. So I ain't got twenty

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Speaker 4: million dollars to show for it, but I definitely spent

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Speaker 4: what I mean.

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Speaker 6: I know you said in the same interview you don't

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Speaker 6: regret anything, but there were things that you probably would

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Speaker 6: have done differently, or just just things you would have

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Speaker 6: done at that time that you didn't do. What were

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Speaker 6: some of those things now when you're looking back, like, yo,

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Speaker 6: I could have put I could have.

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Speaker 4: Did this, I could have been way more financially responsible

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Speaker 4: than I was. But I got this thing there that

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Speaker 4: you don't know till you grow. I was very young

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Speaker 4: and dumb at that time, and the experience was worth it.

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Speaker 4: But as I'm older than I'm thinking back, like, damn

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Speaker 4: if we did have some people in my corner or

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Speaker 4: grew up a little bit different where we were tall

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Speaker 4: financial literacy as opposed to coming up in the hood,

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Speaker 4: and we were taught to get that money, Go get

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Speaker 4: the car, go get it, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 4: I'm a product of the projects you did. Like so

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Speaker 4: everything I seen is everything I wanted. And I got

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Speaker 4: that money and I emulated what I seen outside. We

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Speaker 4: wasn't taught to, oh, by real estate. We wasn't taught to, oh,

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Speaker 4: get savings. We wasn't taught none of that. We was

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Speaker 4: And that was the mentality I had and it took

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Speaker 4: me to go through a lot to learn any bit

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Speaker 4: of financial literacy, like to the point where I part

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Speaker 4: of the ways with my account. And ever since I've

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Speaker 4: done that years ago, it was like, was me really

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Speaker 4: gaining control of the moneys that I had because I

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Speaker 4: and I never saw the money. I just was spending

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Speaker 6: I was talking to somebody about that yesterday actually, and

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Speaker 6: they were seeing that they can't wait to wait to

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Speaker 6: they could just throw people to manage you real quick.

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Speaker 6: And I was like, I don't know, I kind of

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Speaker 3: I know where I'm messing up.

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Speaker 4: Nobody to pay your bills, just me being ended up

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Speaker 4: on a rock bottom, and how didn't make a decision

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Speaker 4: like yo, moving forward? You got to do something different

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Speaker 4: because what you've been doing is not working for you now.

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Speaker 4: Having a business manager and having account in two different things.

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Speaker 4: Sometimes account access a business manager, but a business manager

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Speaker 4: is really supposed to help you make some money with

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Speaker 4: just pretty much pay your bills and keep your taxes

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Speaker 4: and orders and things like that, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 4: And I didn't know the difference between the two, and

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Speaker 4: I mean, it's just but I learned, you know what

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Speaker 4: I mean, and I'm here. God is good. I was

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Speaker 4: able to bounce back. I was dealing with some scary times,

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Speaker 4: but I always had a hustle and spirit. I know

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Speaker 4: how to make money, what I mean, but I didn't

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Speaker 4: know how to make business. So now I've learned how

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Speaker 4: So I'm in a whole different status feeling life right now,

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Speaker 4: and I feel real good about it.

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Speaker 1: But your debut album is all my Way to Church,

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Speaker 1: All my way to church. This album is at the church.

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Speaker 4: Twenty years later, I feel I'm that much closer to

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Speaker 4: getting my life totally together, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 4: And we can't do that without having God in my life.

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Speaker 1: When you go into church, thought.

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Speaker 7: Close to it.

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Speaker 4: I'm very close. So I mean I grew up in

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Speaker 4: the church, I mean for all my life when I

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Speaker 4: was younger, Sunday school, all night, pray me and all

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Speaker 4: that type of stuff. So I'm a golfer it, man.

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Speaker 4: I mean, I have very good morals, a very great

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Speaker 4: moral compass, and that's why I believe that I'm still

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Speaker 4: able to be here in good favor and things like that.

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Speaker 5: Laurie, tell him what you said. I like the conversations

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Speaker 5: people have about music when you they not in front

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Speaker 5: of you. Tell them what you said. You didn't know

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Speaker 5: about Jim.

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Speaker 6: I was about to go there from the order of

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Speaker 6: how you put this project together. I didn't know that

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Speaker 6: you were like emotional as emotional as you said.

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Speaker 4: You know anything about cancers?

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Speaker 1: Is it therapeutic for you?

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Speaker 5: Because when you hear the music, you literally hear you

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Speaker 4: But besides that, the hip hop culture know well. My

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Speaker 4: You heard like if I was, I was the denominated

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Speaker 2: And I think another question people always ask, and as

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Speaker 4: That's what that's how, that's what you see. But it

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Speaker 4: but I don't think it'd be no diplomats without six

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Speaker 4: figured Digger. He was the uh first person that was

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Speaker 4: And this separation was there was a separation with Cam

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Speaker 3: When did the break? When did the er happened?

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Speaker 2: Where I started splitting apart because I know everybody started

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Speaker 5: When I listen to the album, I hear you still

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Speaker 4: I mean, once you got her brother, he's always your brother,

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Speaker 4: no matter what I mean, Like, doesn't mean that you

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Speaker 4: I know brothers that trying to kill each other, you

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Speaker 7: I think it's on make it out.

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Speaker 6: You say, if so, if it is, what it is

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Speaker 7: But I just I specifically grab.

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Speaker 4: That because to me, to me, put in their pears

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Speaker 7: Sounded like to me, like you guys can make it

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Speaker 4: I mean, I'm not concerned about that right now. I'm

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Speaker 4: I'm concerned about Jim Jones or what Jim Jones got

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Speaker 4: all that, but nobody does a lot for me, you

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Speaker 4: Nobody ever really pulled up for me on Jim Jones

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Speaker 4: need them to pull up, But I pulled up for everybody,

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Speaker 4: so I got to pull up for myself, you know

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Speaker 5: Had a good line on the album man that to

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Speaker 4: Yeah they don't even know what mitigate me. But being

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Speaker 4: and I figured out my groove when it come to

439
00:17:31,520 --> 00:17:33,920
Speaker 4: doing music, like I got I figured out my craft.

440
00:17:33,960 --> 00:17:36,639
Speaker 4: I figured out who I am when any beat comes on,

441
00:17:36,800 --> 00:17:38,200
Speaker 4: like I know what I can do, you know what

442
00:17:38,200 --> 00:17:40,320
Speaker 4: I mean? And it feels good to be here because

443
00:17:40,320 --> 00:17:42,480
Speaker 4: it was it was a time when it wasn't that.

444
00:17:42,640 --> 00:17:44,959
Speaker 4: There was a time where this was just an absolutely

445
00:17:45,040 --> 00:17:46,760
Speaker 4: great hustle for me and I had to figure out

446
00:17:46,800 --> 00:17:48,919
Speaker 4: how to make some great music so I could make

447
00:17:48,960 --> 00:17:51,800
Speaker 4: some incredible money like everybody else was doing. And that

448
00:17:51,960 --> 00:17:53,920
Speaker 4: was like doing homework. That was the hardest thing for

449
00:17:54,040 --> 00:17:55,680
Speaker 4: me to do, you know what I mean. And now

450
00:17:55,760 --> 00:17:57,920
Speaker 4: I encourage you like I can't wait. I mean, every

451
00:17:58,000 --> 00:17:59,720
Speaker 4: day ain't the best day, but for the most days,

452
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Speaker 4: I'm smoking issue and not going to booth.

453
00:18:02,800 --> 00:18:04,640
Speaker 3: When you did the interview with with Justin Little Boy,

454
00:18:04,720 --> 00:18:06,879
Speaker 3: I mean, you know you guys from.

455
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Speaker 4: Charls, the Just Shoulds, the Yeah I just left La

456
00:18:09,440 --> 00:18:10,920
Speaker 4: We just this is out there.

457
00:18:11,680 --> 00:18:12,680
Speaker 3: Talk about yea in a second?

458
00:18:13,280 --> 00:18:15,920
Speaker 2: Were you more hurt of what came out of that

459
00:18:16,040 --> 00:18:18,960
Speaker 2: interview than anything else? As far as what I guess

460
00:18:20,240 --> 00:18:21,920
Speaker 2: you knew what when you said about cam I fifty

461
00:18:21,920 --> 00:18:24,160
Speaker 2: you knew he was gonna return return fire?

462
00:18:24,320 --> 00:18:25,240
Speaker 3: Were you more upset?

463
00:18:25,760 --> 00:18:28,040
Speaker 4: Do you ask me if that when when I didn't

464
00:18:28,040 --> 00:18:30,200
Speaker 4: start that? When niggas we talk about me is is

465
00:18:31,320 --> 00:18:33,480
Speaker 4: it's all funny games. And when I start talking my shit,

466
00:18:33,560 --> 00:18:37,800
Speaker 4: it get serious like like no, like, I don't care

467
00:18:37,800 --> 00:18:39,720
Speaker 4: about none of them. Don't play with me. Bro, all

468
00:18:39,800 --> 00:18:41,800
Speaker 4: y'all do is play on the media. Don't play with me. Bro,

469
00:18:42,000 --> 00:18:44,160
Speaker 4: you think that's the reason why you did, because y'all

470
00:18:44,200 --> 00:18:48,040
Speaker 4: can have I don't troll, I don't. I don't know

471
00:18:48,160 --> 00:18:50,840
Speaker 4: these imaginary people that get on my on my Instagram,

472
00:18:50,960 --> 00:18:52,840
Speaker 4: and I don't do none of that. Bro. Y'all know

473
00:18:52,880 --> 00:18:54,960
Speaker 4: what's up. Bro. You can see me face to face.

474
00:18:55,040 --> 00:18:57,560
Speaker 4: We meet in traffic anywady. You'll want to if that's

475
00:18:57,560 --> 00:18:58,920
Speaker 4: what you want to do, But I'm not into that.

476
00:18:59,000 --> 00:19:02,359
Speaker 4: God bless y'all alone. You heard, leave me alone because

477
00:19:02,359 --> 00:19:04,760
Speaker 4: we all know you're getting nasty, you know, and nobody's

478
00:19:04,800 --> 00:19:05,720
Speaker 4: got out here, you heard.

479
00:19:06,760 --> 00:19:08,320
Speaker 1: How do you feel when people call you the youngest

480
00:19:08,359 --> 00:19:08,840
Speaker 1: old nigga?

481
00:19:09,119 --> 00:19:12,560
Speaker 4: I love it. I love it. I'm still in the loop.

482
00:19:13,000 --> 00:19:15,840
Speaker 4: I'm accepted by the younger generation. That means my music

483
00:19:16,000 --> 00:19:17,960
Speaker 4: is moving, I mean my music is touching. Them. That

484
00:19:18,080 --> 00:19:21,160
Speaker 4: means my music resonates with them. You know how dope

485
00:19:21,240 --> 00:19:23,480
Speaker 4: that is for me to be in this game this

486
00:19:23,720 --> 00:19:26,639
Speaker 4: long and being able to make music that the youngsters

487
00:19:26,720 --> 00:19:29,840
Speaker 4: that wasn't around when I really was lit still admire

488
00:19:29,960 --> 00:19:33,639
Speaker 4: and want to know who this guy is. It's something

489
00:19:33,680 --> 00:19:35,000
Speaker 4: about that, you know what I mean. I don't see

490
00:19:35,040 --> 00:19:39,680
Speaker 4: too many people from my day doing anything like what

491
00:19:39,760 --> 00:19:42,360
Speaker 4: I'm doing right now. If they all count them out,

492
00:19:42,440 --> 00:19:45,840
Speaker 4: call them out to make it cool, call them out.

493
00:19:45,880 --> 00:19:47,120
Speaker 4: I want to see how many they.

494
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Speaker 1: Are to chain push your talking about New York.

495
00:19:53,640 --> 00:19:55,400
Speaker 4: You did, I'm from New York. We're talking about.

496
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Speaker 1: Maybe fab active enough. I like hearing them on gymum,

497
00:20:02,640 --> 00:20:04,000
Speaker 1: but it's not active right now.

498
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Speaker 4: I mean, let's let's chat about it like currently right

499
00:20:08,520 --> 00:20:10,280
Speaker 4: it was the youngsters they.

500
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Speaker 7: That's what I'm saying, Like when I go out, I'm.

501
00:20:16,040 --> 00:20:19,920
Speaker 4: Anomaly in my position, especially from New York's skype, you

502
00:20:19,960 --> 00:20:22,200
Speaker 4: know what I mean, And just watching the landscape of

503
00:20:22,280 --> 00:20:23,960
Speaker 4: the music that's going on right now. For me to

504
00:20:24,000 --> 00:20:25,959
Speaker 4: be doing what I'm doing right now in these streets,

505
00:20:26,000 --> 00:20:27,760
Speaker 4: and then I try to state area with the music

506
00:20:27,800 --> 00:20:29,400
Speaker 4: it hasn't been seen before.

507
00:20:29,600 --> 00:20:32,200
Speaker 1: That's true right now, now that's definitely true.

508
00:20:32,600 --> 00:20:34,120
Speaker 6: And I think during the time where so many people

509
00:20:34,240 --> 00:20:36,280
Speaker 6: have so much conversation about New York sound and what

510
00:20:36,359 --> 00:20:38,960
Speaker 6: it should be like the way that you did this

511
00:20:39,160 --> 00:20:41,360
Speaker 6: even Okay, so you have like classic Jim Jones fill

512
00:20:41,400 --> 00:20:42,679
Speaker 6: on here, but then you also got like the rail

513
00:20:42,760 --> 00:20:45,680
Speaker 6: Rays skate Like a lot of people like I understand

514
00:20:45,720 --> 00:20:47,680
Speaker 6: that you having real ray On here and doing that,

515
00:20:47,920 --> 00:20:50,879
Speaker 6: but they probably even know what I'm talking about, you

516
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Speaker 6: know what I mean, stuff like that.

517
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Speaker 4: That's the beauty of like so I love the influences.

518
00:20:55,320 --> 00:20:57,440
Speaker 4: I have something called IFC, the Influencer Club just for

519
00:20:57,560 --> 00:20:59,959
Speaker 4: that reason, because I know that these kids no more

520
00:21:00,040 --> 00:21:02,679
Speaker 4: about their phone, they't no TV. They know these influences

521
00:21:02,840 --> 00:21:05,400
Speaker 4: on Instagram way more than you no actors on television

522
00:21:05,480 --> 00:21:08,240
Speaker 4: and things like that. And this is what made like

523
00:21:08,520 --> 00:21:10,680
Speaker 4: damn people like Ray Ray and so many others that

524
00:21:10,800 --> 00:21:14,200
Speaker 4: I deal with, you know. I mean Mr Comodo is

525
00:21:14,240 --> 00:21:16,159
Speaker 4: a bunch of them like that. I put all of

526
00:21:16,200 --> 00:21:18,760
Speaker 4: them in the movie. So with the album, also have

527
00:21:18,840 --> 00:21:21,040
Speaker 4: a movie at the church steps that we filmed the

528
00:21:21,119 --> 00:21:24,760
Speaker 4: movie at Saint Joseph on twenty fifth Street in Harlem.

529
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Speaker 4: We had Fast Stacey, we had Ray Ray, we had

530
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Speaker 4: mister Commodore, we had Swaggy, who else we got on

531
00:21:33,480 --> 00:21:36,040
Speaker 4: everybody in there, right, So it's just like Patos in

532
00:21:36,080 --> 00:21:39,520
Speaker 4: the movie. It was a beautiful movie. But I know

533
00:21:39,680 --> 00:21:42,520
Speaker 4: that it's gonna really, it's gonna hit hard because I

534
00:21:42,600 --> 00:21:45,359
Speaker 4: know everybody loved these these influences and me thinking like

535
00:21:45,440 --> 00:21:47,720
Speaker 4: when when I saw Friday, we didn't know who none

536
00:21:47,760 --> 00:21:49,719
Speaker 4: of those comedians was, but it ended up being one

537
00:21:49,760 --> 00:21:51,960
Speaker 4: of the movies that we all love. So making a

538
00:21:52,080 --> 00:21:54,720
Speaker 4: movie with that in mind, shouts to everybody that played

539
00:21:54,760 --> 00:21:56,680
Speaker 4: the part of making this movie. Shouts to will see you,

540
00:21:56,760 --> 00:21:59,520
Speaker 4: a whole director team, and things like that.

541
00:22:00,000 --> 00:22:03,080
Speaker 3: Also mentioned Kanye flew out to China to see Kanye

542
00:22:03,320 --> 00:22:04,680
Speaker 3: I was in Japan. That was Japan.

543
00:22:04,840 --> 00:22:07,000
Speaker 4: That was dope. That was dope. That was pre what

544
00:22:07,119 --> 00:22:09,960
Speaker 4: everybody else saw, but that was dope just to be And.

545
00:22:10,119 --> 00:22:12,080
Speaker 3: He reached out to you said, come on out out

546
00:22:12,119 --> 00:22:12,600
Speaker 3: of that had I.

547
00:22:12,600 --> 00:22:14,320
Speaker 4: Was justin and I put that together and things like that.

548
00:22:14,440 --> 00:22:16,640
Speaker 4: He's like, Yo, they said you should pull up man,

549
00:22:16,800 --> 00:22:19,600
Speaker 4: pull up to Japan. I'm like, huh, pull up to

550
00:22:19,680 --> 00:22:22,639
Speaker 4: Japan is different, bro, But you're not saying like that's Brooklyn,

551
00:22:22,720 --> 00:22:27,080
Speaker 4: Like Yo, But it was dope. It was a dope

552
00:22:27,080 --> 00:22:28,840
Speaker 4: experience to see and work to see the genu c

553
00:22:29,080 --> 00:22:32,280
Speaker 4: is on getting to understand them more and things like that.

554
00:22:32,400 --> 00:22:33,639
Speaker 4: You know what I mean. We all have friends that

555
00:22:34,080 --> 00:22:36,879
Speaker 4: I mean, it is, But he's definitely a dope soul man.

556
00:22:36,960 --> 00:22:39,359
Speaker 4: I believe that he's misunderstood in a lot of ways,

557
00:22:39,359 --> 00:22:41,520
Speaker 4: and I believe that he does things for people to

558
00:22:41,680 --> 00:22:44,600
Speaker 4: misunderstand them and things like that. But I kind of understanding.

559
00:22:44,720 --> 00:22:47,280
Speaker 4: But he's definitely dope. He's definitely a hood ass nigga

560
00:22:47,320 --> 00:22:48,760
Speaker 4: underneath all of that, you know what I mean. That's

561
00:22:48,760 --> 00:22:49,920
Speaker 4: what That's what I said.

562
00:22:50,000 --> 00:22:51,000
Speaker 3: Did you give the diplomat?

563
00:22:51,359 --> 00:22:55,159
Speaker 4: Yeah, definitely has that's his shame. Yeah, that's his you

564
00:22:55,280 --> 00:22:58,240
Speaker 4: know Dipinitely, Yeah, you're heard. That's what that's my dope.

565
00:22:58,400 --> 00:23:00,240
Speaker 3: Did he ask you for what you said?

566
00:23:00,280 --> 00:23:02,560
Speaker 4: Yo? This is well as you see in the footage

567
00:23:03,080 --> 00:23:05,120
Speaker 4: if you've seen the footage that and I had everything later,

568
00:23:05,240 --> 00:23:08,760
Speaker 4: Like first of all, he asked me to bring I

569
00:23:08,880 --> 00:23:11,480
Speaker 4: bring like four or five suitcases of this drip, you

570
00:23:11,560 --> 00:23:14,040
Speaker 4: know what I mean, Like so even want me to

571
00:23:14,280 --> 00:23:16,840
Speaker 4: help him with his fashion, with his brand and things

572
00:23:16,880 --> 00:23:19,280
Speaker 4: like that. So that was what the whole thing for

573
00:23:19,400 --> 00:23:22,119
Speaker 4: me going to Japan was and things like that. I forgot.

574
00:23:23,560 --> 00:23:24,760
Speaker 3: Somebody the jewelry in the gyp and all that.

575
00:23:24,800 --> 00:23:28,680
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, so he went through the jewelry ticket and

576
00:23:28,840 --> 00:23:31,920
Speaker 4: he didn't take it off, so naturally I was like, man,

577
00:23:31,960 --> 00:23:33,800
Speaker 4: you hold on to that. He was like, what you mean?

578
00:23:35,080 --> 00:23:37,160
Speaker 4: He said, you know, he said that was dope. Man.

579
00:23:37,440 --> 00:23:39,920
Speaker 4: Shout out to him, incredible dude. Though I was doing

580
00:23:39,960 --> 00:23:43,120
Speaker 4: some music with him yesterday, he'd let's let him listen

581
00:23:43,119 --> 00:23:45,840
Speaker 4: to my album. He started breaking records down, like you

582
00:23:45,920 --> 00:23:47,080
Speaker 4: need to do that, and I'm like, yo, bro, my

583
00:23:47,119 --> 00:23:49,440
Speaker 4: al won't come out Friday. I won't come out Friday.

584
00:23:49,560 --> 00:23:52,080
Speaker 4: I chaned up full it there, like I don't have

585
00:23:52,720 --> 00:23:55,879
Speaker 4: you dig like I. But it's dope, so you can

586
00:23:56,119 --> 00:23:58,840
Speaker 4: go moving forward. We definitely gonna make some dope best

587
00:23:58,880 --> 00:23:59,800
Speaker 4: records and things like that.

588
00:24:00,080 --> 00:24:01,879
Speaker 1: Man Jones fashion line is something coming.

589
00:24:02,040 --> 00:24:03,440
Speaker 4: I mean, well, I've been helping them with with with

590
00:24:03,760 --> 00:24:06,040
Speaker 4: with with the with the Yeezy brand. It's pretty dope.

591
00:24:06,240 --> 00:24:07,720
Speaker 4: We got a bunch of things going on with that.

592
00:24:08,320 --> 00:24:11,639
Speaker 4: I'm excited about that. You know, fashionist fashion is one

593
00:24:11,680 --> 00:24:13,639
Speaker 4: of my things, getting freshest one of my things. So

594
00:24:14,200 --> 00:24:16,760
Speaker 4: giving me the opportunity to express myself in that field.

595
00:24:16,760 --> 00:24:18,520
Speaker 5: I think it's pretty big, you know, I mean from

596
00:24:18,560 --> 00:24:20,720
Speaker 5: a business perspective, you know you're putting if you put

597
00:24:20,760 --> 00:24:23,159
Speaker 5: time into that, you put energy into that, doing some

598
00:24:23,240 --> 00:24:24,639
Speaker 5: of his antics effective business.

599
00:24:24,720 --> 00:24:26,840
Speaker 1: Won't you tell them I'm a partner with you. You

600
00:24:26,960 --> 00:24:27,560
Speaker 1: gotta slow down.

601
00:24:27,760 --> 00:24:30,040
Speaker 4: I'm not a partner of his, you know what I mean,

602
00:24:30,160 --> 00:24:32,680
Speaker 4: Like he owns his brands and things like that. I'm

603
00:24:32,720 --> 00:24:34,760
Speaker 4: just helping and learning and with the things that he

604
00:24:34,840 --> 00:24:36,720
Speaker 4: needs help with. But I can't say this, man. We

605
00:24:36,800 --> 00:24:38,840
Speaker 4: all have friends that do well. I have friends that

606
00:24:38,960 --> 00:24:42,000
Speaker 4: do things that I don't necessarily agree with that they're doing,

607
00:24:42,080 --> 00:24:44,520
Speaker 4: but that don't make them not my friend. You heard,

608
00:24:44,600 --> 00:24:46,760
Speaker 4: These are still my niggas no matter what goes on.

609
00:24:46,920 --> 00:24:49,000
Speaker 4: And I'm not saying anything about anybody. I'm just saying

610
00:24:49,040 --> 00:24:50,400
Speaker 4: in life, you know what I mean, period and ship

611
00:24:50,480 --> 00:24:52,080
Speaker 4: like that. You know what I mean. I don't get

612
00:24:52,119 --> 00:24:53,040
Speaker 4: in certain people business.

613
00:24:53,040 --> 00:24:55,600
Speaker 3: But if you my dog, you're just not wearing a

614
00:24:55,600 --> 00:24:56,480
Speaker 3: swastick a T shirt.

615
00:24:56,560 --> 00:24:58,159
Speaker 4: I mean, I ain't getting in none of that. I

616
00:24:58,160 --> 00:25:01,360
Speaker 4: don't do politics, even vote he and I have nothing

617
00:25:01,400 --> 00:25:04,120
Speaker 4: against whoever is the president. Whoever the president, I feel

618
00:25:04,119 --> 00:25:06,320
Speaker 4: should be get that much respect because they are the president.

619
00:25:06,359 --> 00:25:09,040
Speaker 4: I'm from the Reagan area and he was proud to

620
00:25:09,119 --> 00:25:12,120
Speaker 4: have whatever president. He's the president. I mean, and nowadays,

621
00:25:12,160 --> 00:25:14,400
Speaker 4: I say, a big divide with these politics with it's

622
00:25:14,400 --> 00:25:17,320
Speaker 4: almost crazy how aggressive everything become, like they want you

623
00:25:17,400 --> 00:25:19,440
Speaker 4: to just be like if the president, like how he's

624
00:25:19,440 --> 00:25:22,119
Speaker 4: still a president. Where is the respect in this country

625
00:25:22,160 --> 00:25:23,639
Speaker 4: when it comes to certain things, you know what I mean?

626
00:25:23,720 --> 00:25:25,199
Speaker 4: So it's just and let me shut up for they

627
00:25:25,240 --> 00:25:29,240
Speaker 4: start bombing. I know they about to go crazy on me.

628
00:25:29,760 --> 00:25:34,920
Speaker 4: Got the red hat on this is uh read it? Yeah?

629
00:25:34,960 --> 00:25:36,840
Speaker 4: You heard. That's all this is about. You heard, is not.

630
00:25:36,920 --> 00:25:38,840
Speaker 4: I don't got no political endeavors. You heard. You know

631
00:25:38,920 --> 00:25:41,360
Speaker 4: what I'm about about community. I do all my politicans

632
00:25:41,480 --> 00:25:43,840
Speaker 4: political things is for my community. I do everything to

633
00:25:43,920 --> 00:25:46,320
Speaker 4: help hallm whatever I can do in my power, you

634
00:25:46,320 --> 00:25:46,679
Speaker 4: know what I mean.

635
00:25:46,720 --> 00:25:48,760
Speaker 5: I don't think you get enough credit for that. I

636
00:25:49,000 --> 00:25:51,000
Speaker 5: see you out there, you know at the Boy and

637
00:25:51,000 --> 00:25:52,480
Speaker 5: the Girls Club. I see you out there in Hall

638
00:25:52,520 --> 00:25:53,879
Speaker 5: and giving our clothes to the kids like you.

639
00:25:53,920 --> 00:25:55,360
Speaker 3: Do that a lot all the time.

640
00:25:55,600 --> 00:25:58,320
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, shouts to my people. That's my community. And

641
00:25:58,440 --> 00:26:01,040
Speaker 4: people always ask why I'm there. I definitely not there

642
00:26:01,080 --> 00:26:03,560
Speaker 4: to show off or or look down on anybody and

643
00:26:03,640 --> 00:26:05,879
Speaker 4: things like that. I am there as to be a

644
00:26:05,920 --> 00:26:08,399
Speaker 4: bit of inspiration for these kids to see somebody that

645
00:26:08,480 --> 00:26:10,639
Speaker 4: came up out of the same circumstances that they did

646
00:26:10,720 --> 00:26:12,159
Speaker 4: and they was able to figure out how to get

647
00:26:12,200 --> 00:26:14,159
Speaker 4: out the matrix. So me being there as like a

648
00:26:14,280 --> 00:26:15,840
Speaker 4: beam of shining light, you know what I mean. That's

649
00:26:15,880 --> 00:26:17,440
Speaker 4: how I feel about it, and things like that. And

650
00:26:17,480 --> 00:26:19,320
Speaker 4: I'm gonna keep shining my light on my people and

651
00:26:19,400 --> 00:26:21,639
Speaker 4: things like that. I mean, but certain people they have this.

652
00:26:22,080 --> 00:26:23,639
Speaker 4: I mean for me, it's like I have a mission.

653
00:26:23,680 --> 00:26:25,240
Speaker 4: I mean, God put us here to do certain things,

654
00:26:25,280 --> 00:26:26,680
Speaker 4: and I do believe this is one of the things

655
00:26:26,680 --> 00:26:28,320
Speaker 4: that he put me here to do, is to help people,

656
00:26:28,359 --> 00:26:29,760
Speaker 4: you know what I mean. And til I figure out

657
00:26:29,760 --> 00:26:31,640
Speaker 4: how to help more people, I'm gonna help the people

658
00:26:31,720 --> 00:26:32,920
Speaker 4: I can. And that's my community.

659
00:26:33,520 --> 00:26:35,560
Speaker 2: That was another thing I guess when people would try

660
00:26:35,640 --> 00:26:38,879
Speaker 2: to say, you're not from Harlem, You're from the Bronx.

661
00:26:38,960 --> 00:26:41,359
Speaker 3: You're from the Bronx. I think you cleared it up

662
00:26:41,400 --> 00:26:41,800
Speaker 3: in Yoma.

663
00:26:42,240 --> 00:26:44,440
Speaker 4: Yeah, but who cares. I'm from New York City. I

664
00:26:44,600 --> 00:26:46,399
Speaker 4: really been in the turf been in the field I

665
00:26:46,480 --> 00:26:47,800
Speaker 4: come from, you know what I mean, Like you know

666
00:26:47,880 --> 00:26:49,720
Speaker 4: what I escaped to be worried about the rhetoric that

667
00:26:49,760 --> 00:26:51,119
Speaker 4: and I was caught up in the min like I'm not.

668
00:26:51,760 --> 00:26:53,440
Speaker 4: I had to think about it, Like bro I didn't

669
00:26:53,440 --> 00:26:55,760
Speaker 4: live in Harlem, i'd've lived in Queens. I didn't lived

670
00:26:55,800 --> 00:26:58,600
Speaker 4: in Brooklyn, I'd have lived in Like I don't lived

671
00:26:58,640 --> 00:27:00,640
Speaker 4: in the whole city. I mean, like I didn't lived

672
00:27:00,640 --> 00:27:02,600
Speaker 4: in a rub where I lived from a lot of places.

673
00:27:02,640 --> 00:27:04,720
Speaker 4: You heard it ain't where you're from, is where you're at,

674
00:27:04,800 --> 00:27:06,479
Speaker 4: And I get to the chicken wherever I'm at.

675
00:27:06,560 --> 00:27:08,639
Speaker 7: You heard what's wrong with Staten Island though, because Very

676
00:27:08,720 --> 00:27:12,120
Speaker 7: Ray was coming, They're.

677
00:27:11,920 --> 00:27:14,000
Speaker 4: Gonna definitely gonna jump. I said, I ain't gonna lie.

678
00:27:14,080 --> 00:27:16,480
Speaker 4: We'll take him like jump you like like ghost Face

679
00:27:16,600 --> 00:27:18,359
Speaker 4: might see you and put them ghost face killers on

680
00:27:18,440 --> 00:27:22,480
Speaker 4: your talking bad about stant now shotsa state Loune Shostah Liddy.

681
00:27:22,520 --> 00:27:24,399
Speaker 4: I have an artist out there in Staten Island, man Shosta,

682
00:27:24,440 --> 00:27:26,720
Speaker 4: my dude, little man or man. Yeah, in the building.

683
00:27:26,880 --> 00:27:29,600
Speaker 1: You've always moved very militant. But you know you you don't.

684
00:27:30,440 --> 00:27:32,280
Speaker 1: You keep the street life the street life, and you

685
00:27:32,400 --> 00:27:33,520
Speaker 1: keep the rap life, the rap like.

686
00:27:33,560 --> 00:27:37,000
Speaker 5: But on this album you included some court recordings about

687
00:27:37,359 --> 00:27:38,600
Speaker 5: the male Matrix situation.

688
00:27:38,760 --> 00:27:39,800
Speaker 1: Why why was that?

689
00:27:41,040 --> 00:27:45,600
Speaker 4: Oh no Shasta Melli free Melly to listen reverse Man,

690
00:27:45,600 --> 00:27:47,720
Speaker 4: it's my brothers, my heart and my soul. Man. I

691
00:27:47,800 --> 00:27:50,119
Speaker 4: really love and respect that man. Man. I mean for

692
00:27:50,680 --> 00:27:53,200
Speaker 4: numerous amounts of reasons, not just the obvious that people

693
00:27:53,280 --> 00:27:55,359
Speaker 4: knowing things like that, like he's a man, he's the

694
00:27:55,520 --> 00:27:58,320
Speaker 4: ten toes down along with Shoddy Long Will Halve, along

695
00:27:58,400 --> 00:28:00,920
Speaker 4: with all the others that got faded to somebody not

696
00:28:01,040 --> 00:28:02,680
Speaker 4: playing the game right and things like that. You know

697
00:28:02,720 --> 00:28:04,160
Speaker 4: what I mean? When I see that, I gotta tip

698
00:28:04,200 --> 00:28:06,280
Speaker 4: my hat to them every time. There's probably so many

699
00:28:06,320 --> 00:28:08,399
Speaker 4: other things they could have did in the situations, but

700
00:28:08,520 --> 00:28:10,639
Speaker 4: they decided to stay there like gangsters, do you know

701
00:28:10,680 --> 00:28:12,879
Speaker 4: what I mean? So I definitely gotta shout that out.

702
00:28:12,920 --> 00:28:15,080
Speaker 4: You her back to back lotty I lot Yo to death.

703
00:28:16,040 --> 00:28:18,920
Speaker 4: But those are actually the real recordings from the actual

704
00:28:19,000 --> 00:28:22,960
Speaker 4: transcript of what Mel Murder was going to call for.

705
00:28:23,080 --> 00:28:25,280
Speaker 4: And let's keep it clear, Mel murder case has nothing

706
00:28:25,320 --> 00:28:29,080
Speaker 4: to do with the non trade case that shoting. Everybody

707
00:28:29,160 --> 00:28:31,960
Speaker 4: got locked up for Mel murders locked up for heroin

708
00:28:32,000 --> 00:28:34,640
Speaker 4: and fanandel charge because he was getting some money out

709
00:28:34,680 --> 00:28:36,520
Speaker 4: here and things like that, and he was getting money

710
00:28:36,560 --> 00:28:38,800
Speaker 4: with a person that wasn't right. And these are actually

711
00:28:38,960 --> 00:28:41,440
Speaker 4: recordings from the transcript that he was going to call

712
00:28:41,520 --> 00:28:44,520
Speaker 4: and what they was asking the DA was asking questions

713
00:28:44,560 --> 00:28:47,400
Speaker 4: to whoever and things like that, and you know, I

714
00:28:47,520 --> 00:28:49,160
Speaker 4: just wanted to put it out there, and you know,

715
00:28:49,600 --> 00:28:51,440
Speaker 4: it's my dog and things like that. I just wanted

716
00:28:51,440 --> 00:28:53,880
Speaker 4: to show people things that as a black man, that

717
00:28:53,960 --> 00:28:55,800
Speaker 4: we go through to try to make it through society,

718
00:28:55,840 --> 00:28:59,000
Speaker 4: and you be in this rap game, how sensitive things

719
00:28:59,040 --> 00:29:01,280
Speaker 4: could be in it's crazy. I give a lot of

720
00:29:01,320 --> 00:29:04,320
Speaker 4: great advice and sometimes I hardly take my own advice.

721
00:29:04,360 --> 00:29:06,560
Speaker 4: So when people hear that conversation, it's like yo, I

722
00:29:06,600 --> 00:29:08,280
Speaker 4: tell people stay up their phones all the time, and

723
00:29:08,320 --> 00:29:10,640
Speaker 4: look what happened. I mean, the same thing came back

724
00:29:10,680 --> 00:29:12,400
Speaker 4: to me on the ass and things like that, and

725
00:29:13,080 --> 00:29:15,400
Speaker 4: that could have caused me a whole lot. But regardless,

726
00:29:15,440 --> 00:29:17,560
Speaker 4: good I got some good brothers around me. That's their

727
00:29:17,640 --> 00:29:20,120
Speaker 4: ten toes down. You heard. So long as I'm out

728
00:29:20,160 --> 00:29:21,960
Speaker 4: there out you heard, and it's freehm to we see

729
00:29:22,040 --> 00:29:23,760
Speaker 4: him and he'd be home in a little while.

730
00:29:24,080 --> 00:29:25,960
Speaker 1: For real, I guess that's when I'm after you.

731
00:29:26,000 --> 00:29:29,720
Speaker 5: Weren't you not running from the affiliation, even though we're

732
00:29:29,720 --> 00:29:31,840
Speaker 5: in an error where people getting jammed up.

733
00:29:31,800 --> 00:29:34,400
Speaker 4: For shit like that, jammed up if you're doing crime, Yeah,

734
00:29:34,720 --> 00:29:36,760
Speaker 4: you're heard. It's not a crown to be a blood.

735
00:29:36,760 --> 00:29:38,360
Speaker 4: It's not a crime to your bling. It's not a crime.

736
00:29:38,680 --> 00:29:40,520
Speaker 4: It's not kind to be a fraternity member. It's not

737
00:29:40,560 --> 00:29:42,160
Speaker 4: a crime to be a celebrity member. It's all the

738
00:29:42,200 --> 00:29:44,160
Speaker 4: same thing. It's a crime if you do crime while

739
00:29:44,240 --> 00:29:45,920
Speaker 4: being that, and that turns into other things. And if

740
00:29:45,960 --> 00:29:48,360
Speaker 4: it's more than one of y'all doing crime while being blood,

741
00:29:48,400 --> 00:29:50,560
Speaker 4: that turns into rico and things like that. I do business.

742
00:29:50,920 --> 00:29:55,160
Speaker 4: I'm a businessman. You heard y'all know that. You always music, baby,

743
00:29:55,280 --> 00:29:55,920
Speaker 4: I always want to.

744
00:29:55,960 --> 00:29:58,360
Speaker 2: Ask, right, you know, in passing interviews, and you talk

745
00:29:58,360 --> 00:30:00,800
Speaker 2: about it bringing blood to New York.

746
00:30:01,760 --> 00:30:04,680
Speaker 4: You ever regret that I didn't bring the blood to

747
00:30:04,800 --> 00:30:26,000
Speaker 4: New York? God here you got here, no crime.

748
00:30:26,200 --> 00:30:34,480
Speaker 3: And he said, actually, he said he made he made

749
00:30:34,480 --> 00:30:36,600
Speaker 3: it properly. That's I was asking. That's a different.

750
00:30:38,120 --> 00:30:41,480
Speaker 4: Commercializing there you go commercializing my gang.

751
00:30:42,400 --> 00:30:44,680
Speaker 7: You're saying a question now because you made it cool,

752
00:30:44,800 --> 00:30:45,400
Speaker 7: was what he's saying.

753
00:30:45,760 --> 00:30:47,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, I made it cool, but I also commercialized. I

754
00:30:47,680 --> 00:30:49,920
Speaker 4: made millions of dollars off the gang culture, you know

755
00:30:49,960 --> 00:30:52,200
Speaker 4: what I mean. So same thing with Snoopez done and

756
00:30:52,360 --> 00:30:54,240
Speaker 4: how the West Coast. I mean, so it was, but

757
00:30:54,400 --> 00:30:56,040
Speaker 4: I know I did not I did. I thought that

758
00:30:56,160 --> 00:30:59,360
Speaker 4: I was a young kid commercialized coming upbout the ghetto.

759
00:30:59,680 --> 00:31:02,360
Speaker 4: You mean looking for I mean my place in society

760
00:31:02,440 --> 00:31:04,400
Speaker 4: and things like that, in the brotherhood or it took

761
00:31:04,480 --> 00:31:07,800
Speaker 4: care of me and that you did shouts to the

762
00:31:07,920 --> 00:31:09,560
Speaker 4: brothers man, you know what I mean.

763
00:31:09,840 --> 00:31:12,280
Speaker 3: But do you regret it because it was you commercialized it,

764
00:31:12,400 --> 00:31:13,360
Speaker 3: you made it cool in you Do.

765
00:31:13,440 --> 00:31:17,080
Speaker 4: I regret anything? No, I don't, because I've done so

766
00:31:17,160 --> 00:31:20,920
Speaker 4: many positive things being in this position, as being a man,

767
00:31:21,040 --> 00:31:24,440
Speaker 4: as being a gang member, as being a father, as

768
00:31:24,520 --> 00:31:26,920
Speaker 4: being all these things you did. If I didn't have

769
00:31:27,240 --> 00:31:30,080
Speaker 4: this platform, people would never know how great some of

770
00:31:30,120 --> 00:31:31,840
Speaker 4: these people can be. Because I've put on a lot

771
00:31:31,880 --> 00:31:35,320
Speaker 4: of people that people bloods, and I put all types

772
00:31:35,320 --> 00:31:38,320
Speaker 4: of people in positions to make money and feed their

773
00:31:38,360 --> 00:31:40,640
Speaker 4: family and things like that, and employ so many people

774
00:31:40,800 --> 00:31:42,840
Speaker 4: and show so many people how to walk in the

775
00:31:42,920 --> 00:31:44,960
Speaker 4: right direction, and things like that and understand it's a

776
00:31:45,000 --> 00:31:48,160
Speaker 4: thin line between crashing out and and you ask anybody,

777
00:31:48,680 --> 00:31:51,080
Speaker 4: I mean, anyone that's around me, You ask them, what

778
00:31:52,080 --> 00:31:55,480
Speaker 4: if I ever encouraged them to do anything wrong? You

779
00:31:55,520 --> 00:31:57,600
Speaker 4: know what I mean? My objective is about getting a

780
00:31:57,680 --> 00:32:00,160
Speaker 4: dollar each one. Teacher, wie, we stay tight, the walls up,

781
00:32:00,160 --> 00:32:02,720
Speaker 4: care nobody fads, I stay. Let's protect ourself, you know

782
00:32:02,720 --> 00:32:04,200
Speaker 4: what I mean. Of course, with somebody across the line

783
00:32:04,200 --> 00:32:06,200
Speaker 4: of the discretion. As a man, you have to protect yourself.

784
00:32:06,360 --> 00:32:08,440
Speaker 4: But for the most part, that's not my lesson. It's

785
00:32:08,520 --> 00:32:11,000
Speaker 4: not violence, you know what I mean at all. But

786
00:32:11,320 --> 00:32:14,040
Speaker 4: in this rap game, we've used violence to make a

787
00:32:14,080 --> 00:32:16,600
Speaker 4: lot of money. And that's what these labels egg us

788
00:32:16,680 --> 00:32:19,680
Speaker 4: on to do. You know what I mean. We see

789
00:32:19,720 --> 00:32:21,360
Speaker 4: the money, and we think about the money more than

790
00:32:21,400 --> 00:32:23,200
Speaker 4: anything else. And it's so easy for us to get

791
00:32:23,240 --> 00:32:25,520
Speaker 4: caught up in that rabbit hole for so many of us,

792
00:32:25,560 --> 00:32:27,480
Speaker 4: and things like that. Just talk about things that we

793
00:32:27,560 --> 00:32:29,480
Speaker 4: actually went through, you know what I mean. For some

794
00:32:29,600 --> 00:32:31,400
Speaker 4: of us, A lot of us are just you know

795
00:32:31,440 --> 00:32:31,760
Speaker 4: what I mean.

796
00:32:32,320 --> 00:32:35,920
Speaker 5: But how man you rap about the labels having I

797
00:32:35,960 --> 00:32:38,080
Speaker 5: don't say a certain responsibility, but I guess it's certain

798
00:32:38,120 --> 00:32:41,440
Speaker 5: responsibility when you when you saw Leo's comments that he

799
00:32:41,520 --> 00:32:43,560
Speaker 5: made up here a long what he said, he basically

800
00:32:43,720 --> 00:32:44,560
Speaker 5: just was like he got.

801
00:32:44,600 --> 00:32:45,000
Speaker 4: To eat too.

802
00:32:45,120 --> 00:32:49,719
Speaker 5: What he said he said what he says, you got

803
00:32:49,840 --> 00:32:51,480
Speaker 5: to eat too, you know, in regards to you know,

804
00:32:51,560 --> 00:32:53,800
Speaker 5: people pushing the drug culture, the gang culture.

805
00:32:53,880 --> 00:32:56,760
Speaker 4: What I mean, bro, nobody's twisting nobody's hand to do anything.

806
00:32:56,800 --> 00:32:59,880
Speaker 4: You heard, this is this is this is entertainment business. Leo.

807
00:33:00,040 --> 00:33:01,680
Speaker 4: I've learned a lot of lessons from him. I don't

808
00:33:01,720 --> 00:33:03,800
Speaker 4: agree with I don't agree with everything that a lot

809
00:33:03,840 --> 00:33:05,800
Speaker 4: of people doing things like that, but he was one

810
00:33:05,800 --> 00:33:07,800
Speaker 4: of the first people that gave me a position to

811
00:33:07,880 --> 00:33:10,720
Speaker 4: be one of the biggest executives in the game at Want,

812
00:33:10,760 --> 00:33:12,600
Speaker 4: the music group. So I really ain't got too much

813
00:33:12,840 --> 00:33:15,400
Speaker 4: bad to say about them. I more have something to

814
00:33:15,440 --> 00:33:18,600
Speaker 4: say about myself by letting people like dam And and

815
00:33:19,360 --> 00:33:21,360
Speaker 4: Killer tricked me out of them positions when I had

816
00:33:21,400 --> 00:33:24,480
Speaker 4: them power, by making me feel less than when they

817
00:33:24,520 --> 00:33:26,240
Speaker 4: would see me inside of them office, like oh you're

818
00:33:26,240 --> 00:33:28,320
Speaker 4: working for these niggas. Oh you would you do? Boy?

819
00:33:28,440 --> 00:33:30,200
Speaker 4: Oh you are so you ain't no boss or boss,

820
00:33:30,200 --> 00:33:33,360
Speaker 4: don't work for nobody, But not understanding my position, how power,

821
00:33:33,520 --> 00:33:35,560
Speaker 4: how much power I had to I could move, and

822
00:33:35,600 --> 00:33:37,000
Speaker 4: you know what I mean in this game, you know

823
00:33:37,040 --> 00:33:39,120
Speaker 4: what I mean. And it was things like that that

824
00:33:39,320 --> 00:33:40,560
Speaker 4: always kind of you know, I mean, so it was

825
00:33:40,600 --> 00:33:42,040
Speaker 4: a lot too. It th ship like that, but sholt

826
00:33:42,160 --> 00:33:43,320
Speaker 4: the leon them, man, you know what I mean, Like

827
00:33:43,360 --> 00:33:45,000
Speaker 4: I ain't got no but nothing bad but say about

828
00:33:45,480 --> 00:33:45,680
Speaker 4: you on.

829
00:33:45,680 --> 00:33:46,320
Speaker 7: The label stuff.

830
00:33:46,520 --> 00:33:48,360
Speaker 6: I was watching another interview and you were talking about

831
00:33:48,360 --> 00:33:49,959
Speaker 6: you're trying to get your master's back right now.

832
00:33:50,560 --> 00:33:53,240
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, I'm attempting to get my master's back.

833
00:33:53,160 --> 00:33:56,280
Speaker 7: And so there because you said y'all were independent, but

834
00:33:56,320 --> 00:33:57,120
Speaker 7: y'all weren't independent.

835
00:33:57,160 --> 00:34:00,480
Speaker 4: You weren't independent. Was an independent label? You want telling

836
00:34:00,480 --> 00:34:03,040
Speaker 4: them what the independent label means? Or should I tell

837
00:34:03,040 --> 00:34:07,080
Speaker 4: you it wasn't. There wasn't a major label, two different

838
00:34:07,080 --> 00:34:08,880
Speaker 4: type of labels. There wasn't a major label, you know

839
00:34:08,920 --> 00:34:10,759
Speaker 4: what I mean. So we signed to an independent label.

840
00:34:10,760 --> 00:34:12,879
Speaker 4: We signed to a label. We got a real label deal.

841
00:34:12,920 --> 00:34:14,600
Speaker 4: But we was making so much money and the war

842
00:34:14,719 --> 00:34:16,839
Speaker 4: independent was so alarmed and things like that. They made

843
00:34:16,880 --> 00:34:19,239
Speaker 4: it fit we It felt like we signed, but that's

844
00:34:19,280 --> 00:34:21,520
Speaker 4: what not really what we signed and things like that.

845
00:34:21,600 --> 00:34:24,480
Speaker 4: It wasn't the independency of you see slim Thug in

846
00:34:24,960 --> 00:34:27,120
Speaker 4: uh Houston had when he was out the truck, and

847
00:34:27,360 --> 00:34:28,719
Speaker 4: it wasn't It wasn't that, you know what I mean,

848
00:34:28,760 --> 00:34:30,960
Speaker 4: It wasn't that at all. We might have thought it

849
00:34:31,040 --> 00:34:32,680
Speaker 4: was that because we were getting so much money, but

850
00:34:32,840 --> 00:34:36,400
Speaker 4: in that in that circle, I ended up signing the

851
00:34:36,480 --> 00:34:41,520
Speaker 4: deal from our solo album on which I was happy for,

852
00:34:42,880 --> 00:34:45,200
Speaker 4: but me still running through the street the way I

853
00:34:45,400 --> 00:34:49,320
Speaker 4: was and entrusting my career business sense with my partner.

854
00:34:49,760 --> 00:34:53,759
Speaker 4: I just wasn't into reading the contracts or understanding the

855
00:34:53,800 --> 00:34:57,040
Speaker 4: business of it, because you know how how I felt,

856
00:34:57,040 --> 00:35:00,399
Speaker 4: we was moving and ship like that and don't own

857
00:35:00,440 --> 00:35:03,920
Speaker 4: the life. When people start selling their catalogs and doing

858
00:35:03,960 --> 00:35:05,920
Speaker 4: all this shit getting the bag, I got a real catalog.

859
00:35:06,040 --> 00:35:08,319
Speaker 4: Let's not get to that too. So when people are

860
00:35:08,360 --> 00:35:11,279
Speaker 4: buying these masters and things like that, like I was like, oh,

861
00:35:11,640 --> 00:35:14,359
Speaker 4: I could catch a busy off it. I might make

862
00:35:14,440 --> 00:35:16,839
Speaker 4: my exit off of this, and then trying to get

863
00:35:16,880 --> 00:35:20,560
Speaker 4: that together and somebody WHOA, You're like, bro, you don't

864
00:35:20,600 --> 00:35:23,239
Speaker 4: own your masters? Bro for life life?

865
00:35:23,320 --> 00:35:24,759
Speaker 7: What year was that that you found that out?

866
00:35:26,160 --> 00:35:28,839
Speaker 4: Because four or five years ago, Wow, who owns them?

867
00:35:29,360 --> 00:35:33,760
Speaker 1: My heart just dropped yes cam to just no, just catch.

868
00:35:33,880 --> 00:35:36,839
Speaker 4: I signed my rights to my masters over the cotch

869
00:35:36,920 --> 00:35:39,040
Speaker 4: for the life term and ship like that.

870
00:35:39,360 --> 00:35:41,759
Speaker 3: Is the president Alison there because you out of this

871
00:35:41,960 --> 00:35:43,680
Speaker 3: not even called of it right now?

872
00:35:45,800 --> 00:35:50,600
Speaker 4: Who more? But so you don't even got a building

873
00:35:50,640 --> 00:35:52,880
Speaker 4: to run up and there's a building he I gotta

874
00:35:52,960 --> 00:35:54,960
Speaker 4: I got a VL deal with a pace up the

875
00:35:55,160 --> 00:35:56,960
Speaker 4: album comes out next month that we signed up there

876
00:35:56,960 --> 00:36:00,480
Speaker 4: and things like that. So but then don't got nothing

877
00:36:00,480 --> 00:36:01,719
Speaker 4: to do with I saw back then, but you know,

878
00:36:01,840 --> 00:36:04,359
Speaker 4: legally and my lawyers starting to make calls and see

879
00:36:04,640 --> 00:36:05,160
Speaker 4: what could be.

880
00:36:05,560 --> 00:36:06,359
Speaker 3: You know, I done.

881
00:36:06,640 --> 00:36:06,799
Speaker 4: Now.

882
00:36:06,840 --> 00:36:08,600
Speaker 2: You didn't mention something I want to talk about because

883
00:36:08,600 --> 00:36:10,440
Speaker 2: this has been a conversation for ten years, right you

884
00:36:10,600 --> 00:36:12,799
Speaker 2: just mentioned he said that they tricked you out.

885
00:36:12,719 --> 00:36:15,239
Speaker 3: Of it because they said bosses don't work for people.

886
00:36:15,080 --> 00:36:17,960
Speaker 2: Right, And that's a conversation our community has. But I've

887
00:36:18,000 --> 00:36:19,560
Speaker 2: been and I think Charloman have been trying to say

888
00:36:19,600 --> 00:36:21,560
Speaker 2: for a long time you could be a boss and

889
00:36:21,840 --> 00:36:23,880
Speaker 2: have a job but still do your thing on the side.

890
00:36:24,320 --> 00:36:26,360
Speaker 4: Period is that's the whole permaniship of how they make

891
00:36:26,440 --> 00:36:28,480
Speaker 4: you feel in certain situations and things like that. You

892
00:36:28,560 --> 00:36:30,400
Speaker 4: got to know me from Harlem, and everybody got to

893
00:36:30,560 --> 00:36:33,239
Speaker 4: weigh at certain people. I mean, but I knew better

894
00:36:33,280 --> 00:36:35,000
Speaker 4: than that. So I pretty much tricked myself out of

895
00:36:35,080 --> 00:36:37,560
Speaker 4: my own position. By I mean, I stand in ten

896
00:36:37,640 --> 00:36:39,239
Speaker 4: toes on what I believe because I knew what I

897
00:36:39,320 --> 00:36:40,920
Speaker 4: was there for. I knew what I could do inside

898
00:36:40,960 --> 00:36:42,680
Speaker 4: of them buildings. I knew how ill I was and

899
00:36:42,760 --> 00:36:45,480
Speaker 4: what I've done so far for diplomats by pitying this

900
00:36:45,600 --> 00:36:48,520
Speaker 4: aesthetic and letting people see us in a way as superheroes.

901
00:36:48,560 --> 00:36:50,240
Speaker 4: Like what I could do that for so many other artists,

902
00:36:50,280 --> 00:36:51,960
Speaker 4: which I have. That's why I was able to get

903
00:36:52,000 --> 00:36:54,120
Speaker 4: that job in there, because they was paying me a

904
00:36:54,200 --> 00:36:57,279
Speaker 4: consultant fee at death Jam. You know, I was making

905
00:36:57,320 --> 00:37:00,200
Speaker 4: like two hundred thousand dollars a year at Depth Jam

906
00:37:00,280 --> 00:37:02,120
Speaker 4: as a consultant. And then when they left Deaf Jam

907
00:37:02,200 --> 00:37:04,279
Speaker 4: and went to Warner, it was like pull up. I

908
00:37:04,360 --> 00:37:05,759
Speaker 4: thought they were trying to give me a record deal.

909
00:37:05,800 --> 00:37:07,560
Speaker 4: They was like, nah, we want you to be executive

910
00:37:07,600 --> 00:37:09,680
Speaker 4: over here. Matter of fact, you run everything. So like

911
00:37:09,760 --> 00:37:13,399
Speaker 4: people like uh, Joey II and Tom Mosk was all

912
00:37:13,520 --> 00:37:15,600
Speaker 4: worked for me. They worked under me, like I was

913
00:37:15,760 --> 00:37:17,759
Speaker 4: above all of them. The only person that had to

914
00:37:17,800 --> 00:37:21,160
Speaker 4: talk to was Kevin Leows and Leo Cohen, Like, yeah, and.

915
00:37:21,200 --> 00:37:21,960
Speaker 3: How did that deal matter?

916
00:37:22,000 --> 00:37:23,080
Speaker 1: That makes so much sense for you?

917
00:37:23,360 --> 00:37:25,319
Speaker 5: It's smart as you think about how you did video

918
00:37:25,440 --> 00:37:27,680
Speaker 5: you used to direct the videos when you do music

919
00:37:27,760 --> 00:37:29,240
Speaker 5: now like that makes so much.

920
00:37:30,960 --> 00:37:34,839
Speaker 4: And through my loyalty, I was impressionable too, so when

921
00:37:34,840 --> 00:37:37,200
Speaker 4: I was hearing things like that made me very rebellious

922
00:37:37,239 --> 00:37:39,680
Speaker 4: aside them off of spaces and other I mean, but

923
00:37:39,880 --> 00:37:42,400
Speaker 4: I definitely had to know how and the smarts to

924
00:37:42,440 --> 00:37:44,360
Speaker 4: do the job. That was easy for me, you know

925
00:37:44,400 --> 00:37:48,160
Speaker 4: what I mean? Or great great great experience though great

926
00:37:48,200 --> 00:37:52,120
Speaker 4: experience the ASAP M. That's what he started as an

927
00:37:52,160 --> 00:37:57,680
Speaker 4: intern for me, right loyal Carol Sibyl to I mean Karen,

928
00:37:58,640 --> 00:38:02,640
Speaker 4: she was also turn for me. I've helped help jump

929
00:38:02,680 --> 00:38:05,480
Speaker 4: start a lot of Cariz not only wrap Carierz inside

930
00:38:05,480 --> 00:38:07,400
Speaker 4: of this industry.

931
00:38:07,960 --> 00:38:09,359
Speaker 1: But you don't get no credit for that, they say,

932
00:38:09,680 --> 00:38:11,160
Speaker 1: they say, all send people to jail.

933
00:38:11,200 --> 00:38:15,120
Speaker 4: I don't want credit no more. I want debbit cash

934
00:38:15,239 --> 00:38:17,520
Speaker 4: me out. How I send people to jail? That's what

935
00:38:17,600 --> 00:38:21,719
Speaker 4: I'm saying. Wow, who did you see me sending to jail?

936
00:38:21,719 --> 00:38:24,400
Speaker 4: Where is he? Nigga smoking they're smoking new drugs out here.

937
00:38:24,440 --> 00:38:27,600
Speaker 4: You heard from where to how Who?

938
00:38:28,719 --> 00:38:29,399
Speaker 1: That's what can said.

939
00:38:29,440 --> 00:38:31,960
Speaker 4: I don't know it's a bird. He's a bird. Hed

940
00:38:32,040 --> 00:38:33,920
Speaker 4: he don't want no smoke, telling him set to her

941
00:38:34,000 --> 00:38:36,120
Speaker 4: boxer right, our boxes head off? Where's the ring at?

942
00:38:37,000 --> 00:38:39,359
Speaker 4: You're getting money? Right, y'all? Do sports ten million right

943
00:38:39,440 --> 00:38:42,080
Speaker 4: now today, nigga. I'll catch a flight wherever you at

944
00:38:42,520 --> 00:38:44,279
Speaker 4: in the morning, I'll catch a flight wherever you at.

945
00:38:44,320 --> 00:38:46,359
Speaker 4: You would make Wether and them ten million. I meet

946
00:38:46,400 --> 00:38:50,520
Speaker 4: you in any boxing ring. Yeah, Now go make some

947
00:38:50,680 --> 00:38:53,279
Speaker 4: jokes about that on your next show. I box your

948
00:38:53,320 --> 00:38:55,520
Speaker 4: head off. You know that. Don't play with me? Yeah,

949
00:38:56,080 --> 00:38:57,080
Speaker 4: now go type about that.

950
00:38:58,400 --> 00:39:03,040
Speaker 3: Jim Chrisy would tell you take five second, christ five seconds.

951
00:39:02,800 --> 00:39:05,440
Speaker 1: And not act like.

952
00:39:07,840 --> 00:39:08,120
Speaker 3: Second.

953
00:39:09,960 --> 00:39:11,000
Speaker 7: You've got time to make anything.

954
00:39:11,960 --> 00:39:12,399
Speaker 1: Christy would.

955
00:39:13,680 --> 00:39:16,040
Speaker 4: We're gonna bring it back. You know, all Jesus Disciples

956
00:39:16,120 --> 00:39:18,600
Speaker 4: was gangsters though, right, Jesus flip table and I am

957
00:39:18,680 --> 00:39:19,240
Speaker 4: a disciple.

958
00:39:19,480 --> 00:39:22,480
Speaker 1: Remember that you did tell us about some of your

959
00:39:22,520 --> 00:39:22,960
Speaker 1: new artists.

960
00:39:23,000 --> 00:39:27,160
Speaker 5: Man like you see in song, he's on like he's

961
00:39:27,160 --> 00:39:28,920
Speaker 5: on a few songs, white lines call on me.

962
00:39:31,040 --> 00:39:32,640
Speaker 4: Been out here doing this thing for a minute though,

963
00:39:33,560 --> 00:39:36,040
Speaker 4: I've been knowing Pacier for almost ten years now.

964
00:39:36,400 --> 00:39:38,680
Speaker 3: Damn, I just remember pac did the story to cut

965
00:39:38,719 --> 00:39:38,880
Speaker 3: you off.

966
00:39:38,920 --> 00:39:41,240
Speaker 4: Pace did the last record fat Man School before he passed.

967
00:39:41,280 --> 00:39:42,880
Speaker 3: Yes, damn God arrested.

968
00:39:44,840 --> 00:39:46,560
Speaker 1: He got a little bit of pun in him.

969
00:39:47,000 --> 00:39:52,799
Speaker 4: He got a little bit a lot of talking about

970
00:39:55,160 --> 00:39:56,920
Speaker 4: he talented me. He got a lot of different ways

971
00:39:57,120 --> 00:39:59,520
Speaker 4: of doing music, from rapping to having the harmony like

972
00:39:59,520 --> 00:40:00,600
Speaker 4: I got no harmony in me.

973
00:40:02,520 --> 00:40:03,960
Speaker 6: Before I knew who it was. Like the name, I

974
00:40:04,000 --> 00:40:05,360
Speaker 6: thought it was kind of like a little a buggy.

975
00:40:05,400 --> 00:40:06,480
Speaker 6: I didn't know when I first heard it.

976
00:40:06,520 --> 00:40:09,200
Speaker 4: I thought, yeah, it's I mean, it's pay so but yeah,

977
00:40:09,239 --> 00:40:09,680
Speaker 4: but I'm.

978
00:40:09,520 --> 00:40:10,719
Speaker 7: Saying when I didn't know who you were.

979
00:40:12,719 --> 00:40:13,400
Speaker 3: But nice to meet you.

980
00:40:13,560 --> 00:40:19,040
Speaker 4: But go ahead now, Suster king King streets, hands down,

981
00:40:19,160 --> 00:40:21,279
Speaker 4: ball for ball. I think that he'll smoke anybody in

982
00:40:21,280 --> 00:40:23,320
Speaker 4: the in the streets boots period. And I put the

983
00:40:23,360 --> 00:40:25,520
Speaker 4: money at the house and everything right now, they'll cold

984
00:40:25,560 --> 00:40:27,680
Speaker 4: meet me tomorrow also at the boxing match, if you'll

985
00:40:27,680 --> 00:40:34,520
Speaker 4: want to with the bag and we have kan alight,

986
00:40:34,560 --> 00:40:37,480
Speaker 4: I'm being petty. I got to. I got to man,

987
00:40:37,520 --> 00:40:42,359
Speaker 4: it's entertaining right when they entertained, It's all it's all funny. Games.

988
00:40:42,480 --> 00:40:44,400
Speaker 4: I'm entertaining them. My album come out on Friday.

989
00:40:44,880 --> 00:40:45,400
Speaker 1: I'm coming out.

990
00:40:45,440 --> 00:40:47,280
Speaker 4: That is what's up? My album come out on Friday.

991
00:40:47,360 --> 00:40:47,719
Speaker 4: What's up?

992
00:40:47,840 --> 00:40:49,759
Speaker 3: I just wanted to clear up everything I hurt.

993
00:40:49,800 --> 00:40:51,520
Speaker 1: So look, does that really sell records?

994
00:40:51,520 --> 00:40:51,640
Speaker 4: Though?

995
00:40:51,640 --> 00:40:53,239
Speaker 1: Because you know they always hit. We always hear the

996
00:40:53,239 --> 00:40:55,279
Speaker 1: story about Jim wanted to fake a beef.

997
00:40:55,960 --> 00:40:58,920
Speaker 4: They say faking. I will box your head off tomorrow

998
00:40:58,960 --> 00:41:00,760
Speaker 4: when you wake up. If you want from ten million,

999
00:41:01,120 --> 00:41:03,879
Speaker 4: you heard and we got it the cover too. Jack,

1000
00:41:04,640 --> 00:41:06,320
Speaker 4: What does freak saying? What is freaky you say? I

1001
00:41:06,360 --> 00:41:08,360
Speaker 4: don't know. Freak freak bugging me out right now? You

1002
00:41:08,480 --> 00:41:10,960
Speaker 4: heard freaking a crazy position right now. But I want

1003
00:41:11,040 --> 00:41:12,640
Speaker 4: him to get his money and do whatever business moves

1004
00:41:12,680 --> 00:41:14,960
Speaker 4: he need to do. You did, That's the way, maryor freak.

1005
00:41:15,000 --> 00:41:17,319
Speaker 4: He always gonna be my brother for life, No freak

1006
00:41:17,360 --> 00:41:18,160
Speaker 4: for a very long.

1007
00:41:18,120 --> 00:41:20,600
Speaker 1: Time when you're wearing the hat. And that's what we

1008
00:41:20,680 --> 00:41:22,600
Speaker 1: all wanted to coach you too, like make yeah, make

1009
00:41:22,640 --> 00:41:23,600
Speaker 1: dips that great again, like.

1010
00:41:23,640 --> 00:41:26,160
Speaker 4: I'm doing that. I've been doing that. You heard, got

1011
00:41:26,239 --> 00:41:28,760
Speaker 4: some fire records out every time and see me it's dipset.

1012
00:41:29,200 --> 00:41:32,480
Speaker 4: You heard Big Jomo in the building. You heard everybody

1013
00:41:32,520 --> 00:41:34,400
Speaker 4: want to make Dipsa great tell him to make Dipsad

1014
00:41:34,400 --> 00:41:36,200
Speaker 4: great again. I always show up for everything all it

1015
00:41:36,280 --> 00:41:39,640
Speaker 4: shows everything. Whenever it's diplomata, something there, you heard. Whenever

1016
00:41:39,680 --> 00:41:42,399
Speaker 4: you talk about diplomats, something there. For the last ten years,

1017
00:41:42,440 --> 00:41:45,200
Speaker 4: when you say diplomats, who pop out? Who's been there?

1018
00:41:45,400 --> 00:41:47,680
Speaker 4: Who's been keeping a bird in the sky? Anytime you're

1019
00:41:47,680 --> 00:41:50,160
Speaker 4: seeing the diplomat reunion, who's the reason for the diplomat

1020
00:41:50,200 --> 00:41:52,880
Speaker 4: reunion happen? And you better do the research. It's always

1021
00:41:52,920 --> 00:41:55,680
Speaker 4: been me you heard, and a lot of times that

1022
00:41:55,800 --> 00:41:59,360
Speaker 4: has stopped me from the motion that I had instead

1023
00:41:59,360 --> 00:42:01,920
Speaker 4: of me continue I gotta worry about me right now.

1024
00:42:02,640 --> 00:42:05,279
Speaker 6: After the last after the verses reunion, I feel like

1025
00:42:05,800 --> 00:42:08,279
Speaker 6: we I thought that everything was like good and then

1026
00:42:08,320 --> 00:42:12,040
Speaker 6: it got like randomly just got like Rocky again, Like where.

1027
00:42:11,640 --> 00:42:15,480
Speaker 4: Does that verses? Weak man? Man? Because he got booed

1028
00:42:15,520 --> 00:42:17,520
Speaker 4: and we lost man, Just tell the truth.

1029
00:42:17,880 --> 00:42:19,960
Speaker 7: That's what you fell out about again. It's not that

1030
00:42:21,200 --> 00:42:23,439
Speaker 7: it can't be that. No, that was a joke.

1031
00:42:24,080 --> 00:42:26,920
Speaker 4: He got booed, he forgot his free Yeah.

1032
00:42:26,960 --> 00:42:28,960
Speaker 6: But I'm saying because when we were up here trying

1033
00:42:28,960 --> 00:42:31,000
Speaker 6: to figure out like what reignited all of the whatever

1034
00:42:31,120 --> 00:42:33,920
Speaker 6: this is, we remember that like it was after the verses.

1035
00:42:34,040 --> 00:42:35,000
Speaker 7: It can't just be that.

1036
00:42:37,320 --> 00:42:39,640
Speaker 4: I don't care about done. You heard. That's the difference

1037
00:42:39,640 --> 00:42:41,799
Speaker 4: between me. I don't take none of the shit personal, bro.

1038
00:42:42,239 --> 00:42:44,239
Speaker 4: I could take loss of walk off and laugh at it.

1039
00:42:44,280 --> 00:42:45,840
Speaker 4: I'm gonna still go home to the house that I

1040
00:42:45,960 --> 00:42:48,200
Speaker 4: live in and love life. You heard. Like people take

1041
00:42:48,239 --> 00:42:50,680
Speaker 4: things too literal, like these people getting this rap game

1042
00:42:50,760 --> 00:42:52,640
Speaker 4: and be mad that they didn't have the number one

1043
00:42:52,680 --> 00:42:54,560
Speaker 4: album them. They want to cut their riskin all. I

1044
00:42:54,600 --> 00:42:57,000
Speaker 4: don't care about none of that. Shout out to Jada

1045
00:42:57,000 --> 00:42:58,440
Speaker 4: and them. They was on top of the game. They

1046
00:42:58,480 --> 00:43:01,400
Speaker 4: knew what they came to do. You know, he was ready,

1047
00:43:02,440 --> 00:43:08,279
Speaker 4: you did us not so much us not so much ready,

1048
00:43:08,560 --> 00:43:10,920
Speaker 4: But you know you want something you lose them. But

1049
00:43:10,960 --> 00:43:12,440
Speaker 4: what's up? Who want to do it versus with me?

1050
00:43:12,600 --> 00:43:18,200
Speaker 4: Right now? Yeah? That'd be a good good Who would

1051
00:43:18,200 --> 00:43:19,920
Speaker 4: you want to do it versus against any one of them?

1052
00:43:20,400 --> 00:43:22,239
Speaker 4: Pull it up New York. I love all my brothers

1053
00:43:22,320 --> 00:43:23,800
Speaker 4: in New York, but you can pull them up no

1054
00:43:23,960 --> 00:43:27,440
Speaker 4: matter who it is. Who would you say? Who you here?

1055
00:43:28,080 --> 00:43:30,680
Speaker 4: I got a real catalog. I just had a gold

1056
00:43:30,960 --> 00:43:34,439
Speaker 4: record last year. I mean, I mean we could go back.

1057
00:43:35,040 --> 00:43:37,520
Speaker 4: I got twenty records for every year. We can start

1058
00:43:37,560 --> 00:43:39,279
Speaker 4: from twenty years ago. I gave him one record for

1059
00:43:39,360 --> 00:43:41,040
Speaker 4: each year all the way up to now.

1060
00:43:41,360 --> 00:43:44,880
Speaker 5: Coppo versus Styles p He don't got enough catalog for that.

1061
00:43:46,239 --> 00:43:47,840
Speaker 5: I've got a lot of catalog, not.

1062
00:43:48,000 --> 00:43:50,120
Speaker 4: Not a commercial catalog. He's not going, He's not going,

1063
00:43:50,280 --> 00:43:52,440
Speaker 4: He's not gonna last. I mean, I love Styles did

1064
00:43:52,719 --> 00:43:53,160
Speaker 4: set it up.

1065
00:43:53,280 --> 00:43:56,160
Speaker 1: If it depends, what if it's just solo records, that'd

1066
00:43:56,200 --> 00:43:57,040
Speaker 1: be a good one for y'all.

1067
00:43:57,480 --> 00:43:59,520
Speaker 4: I got more solo records than most of them that

1068
00:43:59,680 --> 00:44:03,160
Speaker 4: really remember that you did, like, I got a lot

1069
00:44:03,239 --> 00:44:05,160
Speaker 4: of gold singles and a lot of I got some

1070
00:44:05,320 --> 00:44:07,680
Speaker 4: action with me. It's gonna be hard for a lot

1071
00:44:07,719 --> 00:44:10,560
Speaker 4: of people from New York who win with Capito and

1072
00:44:10,640 --> 00:44:13,200
Speaker 4: I got freestyles I could, I could I have in

1073
00:44:13,320 --> 00:44:16,560
Speaker 4: New York City. It's gonna be hard. I would say

1074
00:44:16,600 --> 00:44:19,480
Speaker 4: that for anybody you know on the record.

1075
00:44:19,600 --> 00:44:21,160
Speaker 3: Sounds like he wanted to do with fifty That's what

1076
00:44:21,200 --> 00:44:21,560
Speaker 3: it sounds.

1077
00:44:21,560 --> 00:44:23,239
Speaker 4: That sounds like you don't want to do nothing with

1078
00:44:23,360 --> 00:44:27,280
Speaker 4: that sucker. You're me leave him out of the conversation

1079
00:44:28,480 --> 00:44:29,720
Speaker 4: on purpose. They did.

1080
00:44:31,440 --> 00:44:33,080
Speaker 6: New York and that's the only one that has a

1081
00:44:33,719 --> 00:44:35,279
Speaker 6: He was thinking, and I just didn't want to say

1082
00:44:35,280 --> 00:44:37,759
Speaker 6: it because you got catalog. There's no because when I

1083
00:44:37,920 --> 00:44:39,640
Speaker 6: when you said think about it, I'm trying to think

1084
00:44:39,640 --> 00:44:42,080
Speaker 6: who else, even just commercially would have a big enough,

1085
00:44:42,320 --> 00:44:45,440
Speaker 6: big enough songs consistently to even But you know it.

1086
00:44:45,440 --> 00:44:48,400
Speaker 3: Has Platinum Records, Gold Records, Number one records. It's not

1087
00:44:48,520 --> 00:44:49,239
Speaker 3: too many in New York.

1088
00:44:50,080 --> 00:44:51,560
Speaker 1: Listen after Church Steps Man.

1089
00:44:52,840 --> 00:44:56,040
Speaker 3: No, No, that whole a whole got that type of catalog.

1090
00:44:56,160 --> 00:44:57,840
Speaker 3: Now it's got the type of artists like that.

1091
00:44:58,040 --> 00:45:00,759
Speaker 7: No, but they I feel like even like you would

1092
00:45:00,760 --> 00:45:01,960
Speaker 7: have to bring it super.

1093
00:45:01,719 --> 00:45:05,799
Speaker 3: Great you can't do because you talked about.

1094
00:45:07,840 --> 00:45:17,839
Speaker 4: Right there say nope, nope. Anybody else but you gonna

1095
00:45:17,840 --> 00:45:20,680
Speaker 4: hope is you can't. One thing we're not gonna do

1096
00:45:21,320 --> 00:45:24,200
Speaker 4: is front of the hole. He did what he's supposed

1097
00:45:24,200 --> 00:45:27,040
Speaker 4: to out here, Like it's going to be very hard

1098
00:45:27,120 --> 00:45:29,399
Speaker 4: for anybody to beat him in some type of verses.

1099
00:45:29,400 --> 00:45:30,440
Speaker 3: I don't think anybody can.

1100
00:45:30,600 --> 00:45:34,040
Speaker 4: Who who's the lineup? You know, I love Drizzy, you did,

1101
00:45:34,200 --> 00:45:38,320
Speaker 4: but a versus gonna be, it's gonna be. There's a

1102
00:45:38,400 --> 00:45:40,920
Speaker 4: lot of variables to that that's a dog fight, you

1103
00:45:40,960 --> 00:45:42,360
Speaker 4: know what I mean. But as far as I'm concerned

1104
00:45:42,400 --> 00:45:44,960
Speaker 4: you right now, and well, man, I would do I'm

1105
00:45:44,960 --> 00:45:47,040
Speaker 4: saying I want to do it. But that was that

1106
00:45:47,160 --> 00:45:49,279
Speaker 4: was the play that Swiss felt like he had a bag.

1107
00:45:49,520 --> 00:45:51,440
Speaker 4: I need triple what I had last time to where

1108
00:45:51,480 --> 00:45:53,279
Speaker 4: we put that verses on fire too. We had that

1109
00:45:53,400 --> 00:45:56,719
Speaker 4: thing looking like a championship game. Yes, Swiss, holl that man.

1110
00:45:56,800 --> 00:45:58,840
Speaker 4: You backdoored me and gave that man some business that

1111
00:45:58,920 --> 00:46:01,080
Speaker 4: you ain't give all of us. You definitely gotta give

1112
00:46:01,120 --> 00:46:02,960
Speaker 4: me triple Swiss, and you gotta give me some real

1113
00:46:03,040 --> 00:46:05,680
Speaker 4: business this time. See that's the funny thing about this game.

1114
00:46:06,000 --> 00:46:08,920
Speaker 4: You heard, like y'all don't talk about the back door

1115
00:46:08,960 --> 00:46:12,200
Speaker 4: and that's going on for the verses that anybody keep killing.

1116
00:46:12,280 --> 00:46:15,759
Speaker 4: But well, yeah, yeah, I wanted to bag, you heard,

1117
00:46:16,400 --> 00:46:20,319
Speaker 4: But we got the bag. But boy still went back door,

1118
00:46:20,400 --> 00:46:22,080
Speaker 4: like yo, for us for me to do the verses,

1119
00:46:22,080 --> 00:46:24,000
Speaker 4: you got to give me part of this business that

1120
00:46:24,120 --> 00:46:26,440
Speaker 4: had nothing to do with us, you heard. But he say,

1121
00:46:26,520 --> 00:46:28,239
Speaker 4: that's me being a business man now as you being

1122
00:46:28,280 --> 00:46:33,720
Speaker 4: a sucker doing back door shit. You hurt, But nobody

1123
00:46:33,760 --> 00:46:37,080
Speaker 4: won't talk about that. I know, I ain't no back

1124
00:46:37,120 --> 00:46:39,040
Speaker 4: door ass nigga. You heard, I stand on ten do's

1125
00:46:39,080 --> 00:46:41,480
Speaker 4: and I break bread with my niggas period. That's always

1126
00:46:41,480 --> 00:46:46,359
Speaker 4: who I've been. Who are not her? Has never been

1127
00:46:46,360 --> 00:46:48,719
Speaker 4: an artist that took advantage of you heard. I really

1128
00:46:48,800 --> 00:46:50,759
Speaker 4: put money in all of my artists pocket that I

1129
00:46:50,880 --> 00:46:53,000
Speaker 4: deal with, and all my niggas we get money together.

1130
00:46:53,200 --> 00:46:54,560
Speaker 4: Not one of them type of dudes. Bro.

1131
00:46:55,200 --> 00:46:57,320
Speaker 7: You heard when you went the camp about that. He

1132
00:46:57,440 --> 00:46:59,120
Speaker 7: said that, like it's just me being a businessman.

1133
00:46:59,360 --> 00:47:02,000
Speaker 4: No, Swiss told me how to tell Swiss. I know

1134
00:47:02,040 --> 00:47:04,359
Speaker 4: what was going on. Jack, call Swiss on the line.

1135
00:47:04,400 --> 00:47:07,560
Speaker 4: They tell you I did bad. You know, Swiss, my

1136
00:47:07,680 --> 00:47:12,839
Speaker 4: brother zones zone zone with something I'm not talking about.

1137
00:47:12,920 --> 00:47:14,360
Speaker 4: I'm talking about actual factual.

1138
00:47:14,520 --> 00:47:15,640
Speaker 3: How did you find out about it then?

1139
00:47:16,640 --> 00:47:19,560
Speaker 4: Because I found out about a lot. Yeah, that didn't

1140
00:47:19,600 --> 00:47:21,480
Speaker 4: don't matter. What the matter is is. I got to

1141
00:47:21,560 --> 00:47:23,040
Speaker 4: the bottom of it to see if it was true.

1142
00:47:23,360 --> 00:47:27,440
Speaker 4: Course Swiss. Yeah, but that's the ship that we deal with,

1143
00:47:27,520 --> 00:47:29,160
Speaker 4: you heard, that's the ship that people don't know about

1144
00:47:29,160 --> 00:47:30,799
Speaker 4: when they be looking at me like I'm bugging out,

1145
00:47:30,960 --> 00:47:34,040
Speaker 4: I'm bugging out. We can go down the list. When

1146
00:47:34,040 --> 00:47:34,680
Speaker 4: I got time for that.

1147
00:47:35,040 --> 00:47:37,000
Speaker 3: You talk about that a lot getting back door A

1148
00:47:37,080 --> 00:47:38,680
Speaker 3: lot paused with with who.

1149
00:47:39,880 --> 00:47:42,959
Speaker 4: Let's get the back door word out? Said that word?

1150
00:47:43,960 --> 00:47:49,040
Speaker 4: I know, Mann, we take it back, give me racing ship,

1151
00:47:49,200 --> 00:47:49,719
Speaker 4: all right? Come on.

1152
00:47:49,920 --> 00:47:51,960
Speaker 2: So the reason I asked that, it's like, if that's

1153
00:47:51,960 --> 00:47:55,320
Speaker 2: happened a couple of times, pause, why not stop it

1154
00:47:55,360 --> 00:47:55,719
Speaker 2: from the door?

1155
00:47:55,880 --> 00:47:58,320
Speaker 3: Like I can never do business with them again because

1156
00:47:58,560 --> 00:47:59,279
Speaker 3: they keep doing it.

1157
00:47:59,520 --> 00:48:02,319
Speaker 2: It's like first time you got me, second time, third

1158
00:48:02,440 --> 00:48:04,879
Speaker 2: time you say multiple times, it's like, fuck.

1159
00:48:05,560 --> 00:48:07,880
Speaker 4: I mean, you did what you deal with. Bro You

1160
00:48:08,040 --> 00:48:12,719
Speaker 4: heard my lord t goes way be yond. That's a

1161
00:48:12,760 --> 00:48:13,200
Speaker 4: lot you did.

1162
00:48:13,480 --> 00:48:15,480
Speaker 3: As long as you stopped as an hours, it's still there.

1163
00:48:15,920 --> 00:48:18,839
Speaker 4: I'm loyal to the bird. I'm loyal to the bird.

1164
00:48:18,880 --> 00:48:21,200
Speaker 4: Anybody lottal to the bird that we fly high. You

1165
00:48:21,320 --> 00:48:23,520
Speaker 4: heard you ain't loyal to the bird. We gonna clip

1166
00:48:23,600 --> 00:48:25,000
Speaker 4: your ways. You heard You're gonna be there and there

1167
00:48:25,080 --> 00:48:29,360
Speaker 4: like a pigeon. Niggas New York City nigga, what's up? Serious?

1168
00:48:29,440 --> 00:48:31,279
Speaker 4: I'm serious about that bird. I put my life in

1169
00:48:31,360 --> 00:48:33,759
Speaker 4: my heart into it. Broa put my life on the

1170
00:48:33,800 --> 00:48:36,320
Speaker 4: line about that bird. People playing with and things like that.

1171
00:48:36,719 --> 00:48:39,120
Speaker 4: It's never been about money for me been about the unity.

1172
00:48:39,160 --> 00:48:40,759
Speaker 4: You've been about the family, You've been about what we

1173
00:48:40,800 --> 00:48:45,239
Speaker 4: could build together. I'm not perfect at all, but I'm

1174
00:48:45,320 --> 00:48:48,359
Speaker 4: the perfect example of what you could be by staying down.

1175
00:48:48,480 --> 00:48:50,879
Speaker 4: And that's what I did, no matter what we all

1176
00:48:50,920 --> 00:48:53,239
Speaker 4: go through. What we go through, you heard, but above all,

1177
00:48:53,760 --> 00:48:57,439
Speaker 4: I stayed there for that bird, as I'm still doing now.

1178
00:48:58,400 --> 00:49:00,799
Speaker 4: I criticized that on a.

1179
00:49:00,880 --> 00:49:01,360
Speaker 3: Call on me.

1180
00:49:01,600 --> 00:49:03,640
Speaker 5: You talk about a conversation you had with Puff right

1181
00:49:03,680 --> 00:49:06,400
Speaker 5: before they sent them to get him, Like, what was

1182
00:49:06,440 --> 00:49:07,280
Speaker 5: that last conversation?

1183
00:49:07,360 --> 00:49:09,439
Speaker 4: That's the big bro. It was a great time.

1184
00:49:09,600 --> 00:49:12,320
Speaker 5: I mean you said you asked him bout his rich friends.

1185
00:49:12,640 --> 00:49:15,400
Speaker 5: Now the acting like he did to him. But when

1186
00:49:15,440 --> 00:49:17,400
Speaker 5: that loyalty get molded, you can see what the bread

1187
00:49:17,600 --> 00:49:20,160
Speaker 5: with the bread wants with the bread ruins with bread ruins.

1188
00:49:20,200 --> 00:49:23,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, when that little to get moldy, I mean,

1189
00:49:23,600 --> 00:49:26,759
Speaker 4: I mean, and I don't get into nobody Bennessy, that's

1190
00:49:26,800 --> 00:49:28,120
Speaker 4: the d man. He's did a lot for the game.

1191
00:49:28,120 --> 00:49:29,239
Speaker 4: I don't want to get into all that. But he

1192
00:49:29,320 --> 00:49:32,480
Speaker 4: did come up till the day before they came and

1193
00:49:32,560 --> 00:49:34,279
Speaker 4: got him, and he set uptown with me for five

1194
00:49:34,360 --> 00:49:37,399
Speaker 4: or six hours right on Lennox five said he felt

1195
00:49:37,440 --> 00:49:39,239
Speaker 4: like he was in Caprix on the yacht. Just the

1196
00:49:39,280 --> 00:49:41,719
Speaker 4: freedom of being uptanning and no judgment is on in

1197
00:49:41,800 --> 00:49:43,520
Speaker 4: the middle of a hood where we don't judge because

1198
00:49:43,520 --> 00:49:45,160
Speaker 4: people going through their own shit up here, you know

1199
00:49:45,200 --> 00:49:47,200
Speaker 4: what I mean. So there's some normalcy in there for

1200
00:49:47,320 --> 00:49:48,719
Speaker 4: him and things like that, and he just sat down

1201
00:49:48,719 --> 00:49:51,520
Speaker 4: and enjoyed hisself. He had a good conversation with me.

1202
00:49:51,560 --> 00:49:54,360
Speaker 4: I had a good conversation with him, uplifting conversation and

1203
00:49:54,400 --> 00:49:56,800
Speaker 4: spiritual conversation, you know what I mean. I know Diddy

1204
00:49:56,880 --> 00:50:00,320
Speaker 4: for half half my life and things like that. Always

1205
00:50:00,320 --> 00:50:01,800
Speaker 4: been big brother. And I know he's going through a

1206
00:50:01,840 --> 00:50:02,920
Speaker 4: lot right now, you know what I mean. So I

1207
00:50:03,000 --> 00:50:05,480
Speaker 4: do wish him the best. I don't want nobody come

1208
00:50:05,560 --> 00:50:07,560
Speaker 4: down to me, try to cancel me all this. I mean,

1209
00:50:07,560 --> 00:50:10,520
Speaker 4: I ain't with none of that. Brother, God bless you, bro,

1210
00:50:10,560 --> 00:50:10,960
Speaker 4: you know what I mean.

1211
00:50:11,120 --> 00:50:12,600
Speaker 1: What was it about that moment that made you want

1212
00:50:12,640 --> 00:50:14,720
Speaker 1: to put it down on paper on the recording?

1213
00:50:15,760 --> 00:50:18,759
Speaker 4: Just living life? And the record came on, Pat did

1214
00:50:18,800 --> 00:50:21,239
Speaker 4: the hook, and that's where we was at with it.

1215
00:50:21,280 --> 00:50:23,279
Speaker 4: I just did it the same night, you know what

1216
00:50:23,280 --> 00:50:26,160
Speaker 4: I mean, or the next night, whatever it was. It

1217
00:50:26,280 --> 00:50:28,080
Speaker 4: was still on my mind. It was heavy on my heart.

1218
00:50:28,280 --> 00:50:30,560
Speaker 4: I mean, the best way for me to express I'm

1219
00:50:30,560 --> 00:50:32,319
Speaker 4: going through is usually through the music, and I don't

1220
00:50:32,320 --> 00:50:33,400
Speaker 4: want to touch too much on it.

1221
00:50:33,480 --> 00:50:36,560
Speaker 5: But you know, I mean when he got picked up

1222
00:50:36,560 --> 00:50:38,640
Speaker 5: the next day, you remember, do you like, oh ship

1223
00:50:38,800 --> 00:50:40,960
Speaker 5: like just with him yesterday?

1224
00:50:41,640 --> 00:50:47,279
Speaker 4: I mean, yeah, like that shouts today, prob let's get

1225
00:50:47,719 --> 00:50:52,359
Speaker 4: his sons. Yeah to the next man shouts to them.

1226
00:50:52,400 --> 00:50:54,239
Speaker 4: I mean, Christian got a dope record together.

1227
00:50:54,040 --> 00:50:57,880
Speaker 3: Too, Man or Christian? What do you want to have

1228
00:50:58,000 --> 00:50:58,360
Speaker 3: the album?

1229
00:50:59,000 --> 00:51:00,320
Speaker 4: What I want to hear off the album?

1230
00:51:02,960 --> 00:51:04,719
Speaker 3: The label will say the single, but you are the label.

1231
00:51:04,760 --> 00:51:05,920
Speaker 3: But what do you want to hear besides that?

1232
00:51:06,960 --> 00:51:10,760
Speaker 4: It's either gonna be make It Out or Genesis.

1233
00:51:10,880 --> 00:51:13,360
Speaker 1: You know, it's crazy. I thought that was Tory Lanez

1234
00:51:13,360 --> 00:51:13,960
Speaker 1: gonna make it up.

1235
00:51:14,800 --> 00:51:18,719
Speaker 4: That's Ronnie, that's a young Bird's cousin also in his artist.

1236
00:51:18,840 --> 00:51:20,680
Speaker 1: Yeah I didn't. I mean, I'm looking at the track, Lis.

1237
00:51:20,719 --> 00:51:26,800
Speaker 4: I just heard that Jackson m r K Monarch, Monarch,

1238
00:51:26,960 --> 00:51:29,960
Speaker 4: that's the name of that's the new Cosch probably forgetting

1239
00:51:29,960 --> 00:51:32,080
Speaker 4: your name, but that's the new Cosch. Monarch has brought

1240
00:51:32,120 --> 00:51:33,560
Speaker 4: Cotch out and things like that. But so it's like

1241
00:51:33,600 --> 00:51:35,960
Speaker 4: Genesis is the number two record or bigger play make

1242
00:51:36,000 --> 00:51:37,600
Speaker 4: it Out? So which which one you want to hear?

1243
00:51:39,360 --> 00:51:41,839
Speaker 1: Mm hmmm for radio ers? Do make it out?

1244
00:51:41,880 --> 00:51:42,319
Speaker 4: For radio?

1245
00:51:42,719 --> 00:51:44,200
Speaker 1: I like Genesis, Genesis hard.

1246
00:51:44,920 --> 00:51:45,759
Speaker 4: Let's do make it out.

1247
00:51:45,920 --> 00:51:47,200
Speaker 3: We do Joe Mo and make it out.

1248
00:51:47,719 --> 00:51:49,400
Speaker 4: Joe won't make it I love Joe Moon. That's a

1249
00:51:49,400 --> 00:51:51,239
Speaker 4: great record. Man, got a lot of bop to it.

1250
00:51:52,040 --> 00:51:54,640
Speaker 4: Good music music when you get I mean mirror music

1251
00:51:54,640 --> 00:51:57,719
Speaker 4: when you're getting dressed. You shot the video twice for that.

1252
00:51:58,680 --> 00:52:01,120
Speaker 4: Oh no. I shot the video in La when I

1253
00:52:01,200 --> 00:52:02,640
Speaker 4: was in La, and then I came back and I

1254
00:52:02,640 --> 00:52:04,320
Speaker 4: shot the video here, and then I was just shooting

1255
00:52:04,360 --> 00:52:06,719
Speaker 4: like little clips. So I was shooting all the other videos.

1256
00:52:06,480 --> 00:52:07,000
Speaker 3: Because you did.

1257
00:52:07,680 --> 00:52:09,360
Speaker 2: You made me upset with that one, right because you

1258
00:52:09,520 --> 00:52:11,880
Speaker 2: put it out. Then I couldn't get it right. Then

1259
00:52:11,920 --> 00:52:13,480
Speaker 2: you put the video out, so I ripped it off

1260
00:52:13,520 --> 00:52:15,439
Speaker 2: the video and then you put the video down.

1261
00:52:15,840 --> 00:52:18,279
Speaker 4: Yeah, because that was that was so I was making

1262
00:52:18,280 --> 00:52:20,520
Speaker 4: doing these little clips. Now these kids do these little

1263
00:52:20,520 --> 00:52:22,840
Speaker 4: promo clips for ig and somebody actually put it up

1264
00:52:22,880 --> 00:52:25,000
Speaker 4: as a video like nah, bro, take that down. That's

1265
00:52:25,040 --> 00:52:26,600
Speaker 4: not the real video. So we had to put it

1266
00:52:26,880 --> 00:52:27,960
Speaker 4: put video.

1267
00:52:28,120 --> 00:52:29,239
Speaker 1: I do want to ask you one that course, and

1268
00:52:29,320 --> 00:52:30,520
Speaker 1: could love trick you off the street?

1269
00:52:30,600 --> 00:52:30,719
Speaker 4: Gym?

1270
00:52:30,800 --> 00:52:31,719
Speaker 1: And that's what I mean by that.

1271
00:52:32,160 --> 00:52:35,160
Speaker 5: I feel like there's nothing any stranger could ever say

1272
00:52:35,200 --> 00:52:37,120
Speaker 5: to you to make you do anything at this point

1273
00:52:37,120 --> 00:52:40,000
Speaker 5: in your life. But the people you've actually loved and

1274
00:52:40,200 --> 00:52:42,680
Speaker 5: rolled for and been loyal to could.

1275
00:52:46,080 --> 00:52:49,160
Speaker 4: Trick you off the street. Loyalty could trick you off

1276
00:52:49,200 --> 00:52:53,920
Speaker 4: the street, definitely. And it's almost tricked me off the

1277
00:52:53,920 --> 00:52:56,720
Speaker 4: street a few times in the midst of my journey

1278
00:52:57,160 --> 00:53:00,640
Speaker 4: by being loyal to a floor. Love is crazy thing,

1279
00:53:00,719 --> 00:53:03,279
Speaker 4: and it depends on what type of love you're talking about. Uh,

1280
00:53:03,800 --> 00:53:07,400
Speaker 4: love could fuck up your emotion if you're not disciplined

1281
00:53:07,520 --> 00:53:09,719
Speaker 4: in the household and know that you have a job

1282
00:53:09,800 --> 00:53:12,600
Speaker 4: to do, especially and at a job like we have,

1283
00:53:12,800 --> 00:53:15,200
Speaker 4: it's not easy getting up and leaving the house and

1284
00:53:15,320 --> 00:53:18,200
Speaker 4: not home as much as you need to be, and

1285
00:53:18,520 --> 00:53:20,040
Speaker 4: I mean not spending the time you need to be

1286
00:53:20,120 --> 00:53:21,640
Speaker 4: and things like that. But you know this is something

1287
00:53:21,719 --> 00:53:24,560
Speaker 4: a mission that you have to accomplish else your family can't.

1288
00:53:24,880 --> 00:53:26,640
Speaker 4: I mean, so it gets tricky. At that time, you

1289
00:53:26,680 --> 00:53:28,480
Speaker 4: start to feel bad and you start to feel all

1290
00:53:28,480 --> 00:53:29,919
Speaker 4: type you know what I mean, but you gotta stay

1291
00:53:29,960 --> 00:53:32,160
Speaker 4: in your dean. Man. It's gonna be cold out here,

1292
00:53:32,200 --> 00:53:33,719
Speaker 4: so you gotta get that bag. Man. I mean, the

1293
00:53:33,760 --> 00:53:35,200
Speaker 4: family is gonna be there when you get back, and

1294
00:53:35,200 --> 00:53:37,040
Speaker 4: you gotta figure out how to make time for the

1295
00:53:37,120 --> 00:53:38,640
Speaker 4: ones you love. Also, you know what I mean. So

1296
00:53:39,120 --> 00:53:39,840
Speaker 4: there's a balance.

1297
00:53:39,880 --> 00:53:42,359
Speaker 1: You know that Cam calls you to day and can says, look, man,

1298
00:53:42,400 --> 00:53:45,360
Speaker 1: we're better than this. Let's let's let's let'st.

1299
00:53:48,640 --> 00:53:48,960
Speaker 7: Breath.

1300
00:53:50,040 --> 00:53:52,759
Speaker 1: This is you and you and Cam. He called you

1301
00:53:52,800 --> 00:53:53,880
Speaker 1: and said, yoh, we better than this.

1302
00:53:56,160 --> 00:53:59,600
Speaker 4: I'm I'm pettied in this. Hey, I'm taking a petty

1303
00:53:59,680 --> 00:54:01,640
Speaker 4: right now. I just don't have no conversation with nobody.

1304
00:54:01,719 --> 00:54:04,680
Speaker 4: Worry about Dromo. Bro, It's nothing to worry about the

1305
00:54:04,760 --> 00:54:06,759
Speaker 4: moment to talk about, bro, unless you want to box

1306
00:54:06,800 --> 00:54:08,479
Speaker 4: for that ten million, because I could use ten million.

1307
00:54:08,560 --> 00:54:09,960
Speaker 4: None to talk about, Bro, I don't want to talk

1308
00:54:10,000 --> 00:54:12,319
Speaker 4: about nothing. Bro. It's none to talk about, not right now.

1309
00:54:12,560 --> 00:54:14,600
Speaker 4: I just say, for life is right now. I don't

1310
00:54:14,640 --> 00:54:16,600
Speaker 4: have nothing to talk about. I got other things that

1311
00:54:16,640 --> 00:54:18,480
Speaker 4: I'm doing. I got businesses that I'm attended to. They

1312
00:54:18,560 --> 00:54:21,719
Speaker 4: getting their money. I'm getting my money too. Heard I'm

1313
00:54:21,760 --> 00:54:26,479
Speaker 4: doing I'm doing pretty good out here with man Slow

1314
00:54:29,320 --> 00:54:32,239
Speaker 4: were doing okay, baby. I'm not to say it like that,

1315
00:54:32,360 --> 00:54:34,160
Speaker 4: but you know, just but I got a lot of

1316
00:54:34,239 --> 00:54:36,120
Speaker 4: things that I'm doing, and I got no time to

1317
00:54:36,320 --> 00:54:40,200
Speaker 4: be interrupted my time or my or my mental space

1318
00:54:40,280 --> 00:54:42,360
Speaker 4: to deal with anything but what I got going on,

1319
00:54:42,440 --> 00:54:44,480
Speaker 4: because that might take away and that might start making

1320
00:54:44,560 --> 00:54:47,000
Speaker 4: me crashing for doing things that I'm not supposed to

1321
00:54:47,040 --> 00:54:47,359
Speaker 4: be doing.

1322
00:54:47,480 --> 00:54:50,279
Speaker 7: I mean, people have people tried to put y'all on

1323
00:54:50,320 --> 00:54:53,680
Speaker 7: the phone since all of it? Nah, nobody Nah.

1324
00:54:55,280 --> 00:54:57,000
Speaker 5: The only reason I say that because life is short,

1325
00:54:57,239 --> 00:54:59,160
Speaker 5: and you know, you see people at funerals now and

1326
00:54:59,200 --> 00:55:01,799
Speaker 5: you're like, damn, what they cool is just the first

1327
00:55:01,840 --> 00:55:04,360
Speaker 5: time that they've seen each other since he passed, Like,

1328
00:55:04,400 --> 00:55:04,960
Speaker 5: I pop.

1329
00:55:04,840 --> 00:55:06,880
Speaker 4: Out to his FUNERALO God.

1330
00:55:06,760 --> 00:55:09,960
Speaker 3: Damn, you set yourself up to that. You said right now,

1331
00:55:10,920 --> 00:55:14,240
Speaker 3: Maybe next year he feel differently saying, God.

1332
00:55:14,120 --> 00:55:16,319
Speaker 4: Forbid, I'm gonna pop out to the funeral if that's

1333
00:55:16,360 --> 00:55:18,359
Speaker 4: the case. You did so. I got love for him.

1334
00:55:18,360 --> 00:55:20,800
Speaker 4: I ain't gonna miss that, heard, but right now, I

1335
00:55:20,800 --> 00:55:23,279
Speaker 4: ain't gonna miss my opportunity to get into this motion

1336
00:55:23,560 --> 00:55:27,160
Speaker 4: that I got going on. Album. On Friday, we got

1337
00:55:27,239 --> 00:55:30,000
Speaker 4: a movie coming out next month at the church steps.

1338
00:55:30,160 --> 00:55:32,319
Speaker 4: So I said, all the people that's in the movie

1339
00:55:32,520 --> 00:55:34,360
Speaker 4: had a good time with that one. You did, like,

1340
00:55:34,440 --> 00:55:36,479
Speaker 4: I'm just trying to stay down this line tunnel vision

1341
00:55:36,520 --> 00:55:38,840
Speaker 4: you heard, like we all seen a different aside of

1342
00:55:38,880 --> 00:55:40,840
Speaker 4: me where you know what I mean, Like, let me

1343
00:55:40,920 --> 00:55:43,359
Speaker 4: stay here, you heard, Let me stay out of these

1344
00:55:43,400 --> 00:55:45,759
Speaker 4: people way you heard. Let me keep doing my music.

1345
00:55:45,880 --> 00:55:47,360
Speaker 4: Let me just keep doing the things that got me

1346
00:55:47,440 --> 00:55:50,640
Speaker 4: feeling good, looking good, and things that people respected me for,

1347
00:55:51,000 --> 00:55:52,960
Speaker 4: not entertaining any bullshit. Let me stay here.

1348
00:55:53,040 --> 00:56:00,320
Speaker 6: You're still doing the sobriety thing. What you mean, just

1349
00:56:00,360 --> 00:56:04,080
Speaker 6: because you had to yea happy in those videos too?

1350
00:56:04,239 --> 00:56:05,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, all right, So I would say this, I mean,

1351
00:56:05,920 --> 00:56:07,960
Speaker 4: of course you can. You can find smoke anywhere, but

1352
00:56:08,360 --> 00:56:12,640
Speaker 4: the consequences for smoking in Japan are very dear not

1353
00:56:12,760 --> 00:56:15,480
Speaker 4: to saying I wouldn't saying. So I think about this now,

1354
00:56:15,520 --> 00:56:17,800
Speaker 4: I get some garbage smoke out there, and smoking in

1355
00:56:17,880 --> 00:56:20,960
Speaker 4: Japan end up getting in trouble for smoking some garbage.

1356
00:56:21,200 --> 00:56:25,560
Speaker 4: I'm double mad smoked some weak ass Japan with but

1357
00:56:25,680 --> 00:56:27,800
Speaker 4: I had a great time. But it was funny. So

1358
00:56:27,920 --> 00:56:30,160
Speaker 4: I smoked. So much of my life me is being

1359
00:56:30,239 --> 00:56:33,120
Speaker 4: sober turned into a high like I was now like this.

1360
00:56:33,239 --> 00:56:35,760
Speaker 4: After the second day, I was chasing that that feeling

1361
00:56:35,840 --> 00:56:37,840
Speaker 4: like I was like, yo, it just felt I was

1362
00:56:37,960 --> 00:56:40,600
Speaker 4: like dancing. I'm like, you know, it was just a

1363
00:56:40,640 --> 00:56:43,920
Speaker 4: whole different energy. I was like, Yo, this is way crazy.

1364
00:56:44,000 --> 00:56:48,000
Speaker 4: So I respected the being sober for a week and

1365
00:56:48,560 --> 00:56:52,080
Speaker 4: for a week so he's no. But since I've came back,

1366
00:56:52,239 --> 00:56:59,040
Speaker 4: I've smokeing tremendously less. Since I came back, Like I smoked,

1367
00:56:59,080 --> 00:57:01,440
Speaker 4: I've smoked out of my time. But I find myself

1368
00:57:01,480 --> 00:57:04,120
Speaker 4: smoking two to three blunts a day, and anybody that

1369
00:57:04,280 --> 00:57:07,760
Speaker 4: knows me, you know, that's like, damn it, not even smoking,

1370
00:57:07,800 --> 00:57:09,319
Speaker 4: you know what I mean? And hopefully I phase out

1371
00:57:09,360 --> 00:57:10,759
Speaker 4: of that too. That the back was not good for me.

1372
00:57:10,760 --> 00:57:13,440
Speaker 4: I'm getting a little bit older, things changing for me.

1373
00:57:13,560 --> 00:57:15,759
Speaker 4: I mean, I like to stay healthy. Being in shape

1374
00:57:15,880 --> 00:57:17,440
Speaker 4: is like a form of the fountain of youth for me,

1375
00:57:17,560 --> 00:57:19,240
Speaker 4: you know. I mean, I'm trying. I'm trying to live forever,

1376
00:57:19,400 --> 00:57:20,160
Speaker 4: be the first one.

1377
00:57:20,120 --> 00:57:22,120
Speaker 6: Too and my last one before you get out of here.

1378
00:57:23,120 --> 00:57:24,600
Speaker 6: Why does it Internet always trying to break you in?

1379
00:57:24,680 --> 00:57:26,120
Speaker 6: Christy up, like the way.

1380
00:57:25,960 --> 00:57:28,120
Speaker 4: You're talking about her baby right now? According to that,

1381
00:57:28,200 --> 00:57:32,120
Speaker 4: I got married. I got married the other month to

1382
00:57:32,240 --> 00:57:35,760
Speaker 4: somebody else, which was crazy straight out the blue, like

1383
00:57:36,000 --> 00:57:39,920
Speaker 4: then now we got a baby. I don't know. You know,

1384
00:57:40,360 --> 00:57:42,320
Speaker 4: we all the media don't get to us, man, Like

1385
00:57:42,360 --> 00:57:44,640
Speaker 4: you tell yourself. It's a shock value. I mean when

1386
00:57:44,760 --> 00:57:46,560
Speaker 4: sometimes you hear something out of the blue, you're like, no,

1387
00:57:46,680 --> 00:57:47,240
Speaker 4: they tripping.

1388
00:57:47,320 --> 00:57:50,040
Speaker 6: But most part, are you ever be having to tell

1389
00:57:50,080 --> 00:57:53,080
Speaker 6: her put your phone down breed where you pick your

1390
00:57:53,120 --> 00:57:55,120
Speaker 6: phone back up like she did for you or does

1391
00:57:55,200 --> 00:57:55,360
Speaker 6: for you?

1392
00:57:56,240 --> 00:57:57,600
Speaker 4: I have to tell her that in a lot of

1393
00:57:57,640 --> 00:58:01,480
Speaker 4: other situations she don't really engage on ILG like that.

1394
00:58:01,680 --> 00:58:03,280
Speaker 4: I mean more or less. I'm more the one that

1395
00:58:03,360 --> 00:58:06,520
Speaker 4: they're talking about on ILG or whatever. But other situations

1396
00:58:06,560 --> 00:58:10,080
Speaker 4: she could be hot as people seeing her to be.

1397
00:58:10,240 --> 00:58:11,320
Speaker 4: But she's definitely a dope.

1398
00:58:11,320 --> 00:58:14,680
Speaker 5: Wa this generation, No Christy can fight. This generation don't

1399
00:58:14,680 --> 00:58:17,040
Speaker 5: really know Gym can fight. They've seen Christy in action.

1400
00:58:18,560 --> 00:58:19,000
Speaker 3: On TV.

1401
00:58:20,240 --> 00:58:27,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, let's try that one. Please. I ain't got no

1402
00:58:27,120 --> 00:58:29,040
Speaker 4: fight of me, so please, it's gonna get scary. Let's

1403
00:58:29,080 --> 00:58:31,680
Speaker 4: let's let's just I mean, let's let's keep me, keep

1404
00:58:31,720 --> 00:58:33,600
Speaker 4: me wear man. I don't I don't want to do

1405
00:58:33,680 --> 00:58:35,560
Speaker 4: nothing aggressive, man, I want to just get this money.

1406
00:58:35,600 --> 00:58:38,200
Speaker 4: I want to stay down the line. This is entertainment.

1407
00:58:38,280 --> 00:58:41,640
Speaker 4: Anything you heard today it was all alleged nothing, you know.

1408
00:58:41,680 --> 00:58:44,720
Speaker 4: I mean, it's just me goofing off having fun. But

1409
00:58:44,840 --> 00:58:47,040
Speaker 4: if you do have ten million for the boxing match,

1410
00:58:47,160 --> 00:58:49,720
Speaker 4: you can set that up in the meantime. The album

1411
00:58:49,760 --> 00:58:53,760
Speaker 4: comes out at the Church Steps on this Friday, Friday,

1412
00:58:53,880 --> 00:58:56,480
Speaker 4: February twenty. I will be at South of con Fuego

1413
00:58:56,600 --> 00:58:58,920
Speaker 4: on Sunday. Listen to me. I don't know if you've

1414
00:58:58,920 --> 00:59:01,680
Speaker 4: ever been, there's feel like Jimmy's cafe. So for you

1415
00:59:01,760 --> 00:59:03,959
Speaker 4: young ones that never been there with Jimmy cafes around,

1416
00:59:04,000 --> 00:59:06,480
Speaker 4: get there early real form. We come in to crunch

1417
00:59:06,640 --> 00:59:10,479
Speaker 4: the building. I mean crunch me and French shouts to self,

1418
00:59:10,640 --> 00:59:12,440
Speaker 4: self and DJ and all my life. I don't know

1419
00:59:12,480 --> 00:59:13,960
Speaker 4: if I should I don't know if I'm allowed to

1420
00:59:14,040 --> 00:59:18,000
Speaker 4: call him my DJ. How should I approach it? Be like, yo,

1421
00:59:18,040 --> 00:59:20,880
Speaker 4: you know self, my DJ? I can say so many

1422
00:59:20,920 --> 00:59:22,320
Speaker 4: times has he called you to come and pull up

1423
00:59:22,400 --> 00:59:25,640
Speaker 4: y selves my DJ? We did about ten shows in

1424
00:59:25,760 --> 00:59:27,600
Speaker 4: this past month together. About that, you know what I mean.

1425
00:59:27,680 --> 00:59:30,040
Speaker 4: So we're getting our show together and we're coming to

1426
00:59:30,120 --> 00:59:32,439
Speaker 4: crunch the building. On Sunday, so please show up early.

1427
00:59:32,680 --> 00:59:35,040
Speaker 4: I appreciate all the love for and support from New

1428
00:59:35,120 --> 00:59:37,080
Speaker 4: York that we've been getting. Hey, like I said, I

1429
00:59:37,120 --> 00:59:39,360
Speaker 4: ain't perfect, but I'm out here. Shouts to hallom. You know,

1430
00:59:39,440 --> 00:59:41,600
Speaker 4: I love your to death. Shouts to all my family,

1431
00:59:42,040 --> 00:59:45,600
Speaker 4: Shouts to pay so the artists, hold me up, man,

1432
00:59:45,680 --> 00:59:47,760
Speaker 4: you did hold us damn No more, hold us up.

1433
00:59:48,400 --> 00:59:51,320
Speaker 7: Now they just start hitting the dance and the wave.

1434
00:59:52,200 --> 00:59:54,480
Speaker 4: That's another record. I want to say this, shouts to

1435
00:59:54,760 --> 00:59:58,200
Speaker 4: the young girl Lailor, because I believe there was a

1436
00:59:58,280 --> 01:00:01,680
Speaker 4: big problem mix up with that record. I did not

1437
01:00:01,920 --> 01:00:04,600
Speaker 4: know it was this girl's record. I thought it was

1438
01:00:05,440 --> 01:00:09,480
Speaker 4: cash co Page and I told nephew, y'a, I'm gonna

1439
01:00:09,480 --> 01:00:11,080
Speaker 4: do my own version of the record. I'm a remix

1440
01:00:11,240 --> 01:00:12,760
Speaker 4: and I wanted you to do it. He's like, I

1441
01:00:12,840 --> 01:00:14,720
Speaker 4: just do all right. So I wanted the whole thing

1442
01:00:14,880 --> 01:00:16,280
Speaker 4: over and things like that. I mean, I didn't know.

1443
01:00:17,720 --> 01:00:19,600
Speaker 4: So I just wanted to apologize for her for thinking

1444
01:00:19,760 --> 01:00:22,040
Speaker 4: thinking of anything like I stole your record. But in

1445
01:00:22,080 --> 01:00:23,760
Speaker 4: New York we do our own versions of records all

1446
01:00:23,800 --> 01:00:25,959
Speaker 4: the time and things like that, and sometimes they catch life.

1447
01:00:26,000 --> 01:00:29,040
Speaker 4: But I didn't know she was most step daughter shots

1448
01:00:29,080 --> 01:00:37,080
Speaker 4: the most steph No, that lawyer called me. I respect

1449
01:00:37,120 --> 01:00:38,720
Speaker 4: the business sense and things like that, and hopefully we

1450
01:00:38,760 --> 01:00:41,280
Speaker 4: can figure the whole situation out. Hopefully this room for

1451
01:00:41,400 --> 01:00:43,680
Speaker 4: me to do something for her that I could make

1452
01:00:43,760 --> 01:00:47,880
Speaker 4: it right. I can't tell you this, baby girl. I

1453
01:00:47,960 --> 01:00:50,920
Speaker 4: wouldn't lose a bag over somebody telling you what's not right,

1454
01:00:50,960 --> 01:00:52,800
Speaker 4: you know, I mean, like, it's the opportunity if you

1455
01:00:52,960 --> 01:00:55,160
Speaker 4: do good business here, you better get this money from

1456
01:00:55,160 --> 01:00:58,200
Speaker 4: the record, because as you say, it's the interpolation is this,

1457
01:00:58,360 --> 01:01:00,480
Speaker 4: So get the bag. You're like, I'm not mad at you.

1458
01:01:00,680 --> 01:01:03,080
Speaker 4: Call my phone. I give you to check that record,

1459
01:01:03,120 --> 01:01:03,440
Speaker 4: you know what I mean?

1460
01:01:03,920 --> 01:01:06,240
Speaker 1: But I told you that Cash would have been like yo,

1461
01:01:06,280 --> 01:01:07,560
Speaker 1: you know ye the record.

1462
01:01:09,360 --> 01:01:12,600
Speaker 4: You know you know Cash young out here busting. You

1463
01:01:12,720 --> 01:01:15,320
Speaker 4: heard tell him something like yeah, yeah, uncles do unkle

1464
01:01:15,400 --> 01:01:17,720
Speaker 4: whatever you know, I mean, like listening tonk like that

1465
01:01:17,840 --> 01:01:20,440
Speaker 4: to start busting. And now here we go. But shouts

1466
01:01:20,440 --> 01:01:25,440
Speaker 4: the cash shots the Bay Swags, Shot shouts the Bay swag,

1467
01:01:25,520 --> 01:01:28,320
Speaker 4: big big queens in the building, shouts the slow Bucks

1468
01:01:28,360 --> 01:01:31,840
Speaker 4: house to slow m Bucks, shouts to all my family members. Man,

1469
01:01:31,880 --> 01:01:34,240
Speaker 4: we got a extensive network out here in the city.

1470
01:01:34,280 --> 01:01:37,480
Speaker 4: Shouts to the lobby boys. Hey man, it's been fun man,

1471
01:01:37,480 --> 01:01:40,840
Speaker 4: shouts everybody here. You know, I appreciate you for having me.

1472
01:01:41,080 --> 01:01:43,000
Speaker 4: It's not easy getting up on the breakfast club, so

1473
01:01:43,040 --> 01:01:45,520
Speaker 4: anytime I'm up here is definitely feel like I'm a star,

1474
01:01:46,280 --> 01:01:46,440
Speaker 4: you know.

1475
01:01:48,400 --> 01:01:49,960
Speaker 1: And congrats on another great body of work.

1476
01:01:50,000 --> 01:01:52,280
Speaker 4: That's the absolutely than I appreciate you for always holding

1477
01:01:52,320 --> 01:01:54,320
Speaker 4: me up to when it comes to the music, my

1478
01:01:54,400 --> 01:01:57,360
Speaker 4: business sense, my musical like you are one of the

1479
01:01:57,760 --> 01:02:00,000
Speaker 4: few people that have advocating for me on this type

1480
01:02:00,080 --> 01:02:02,480
Speaker 4: a platform and letting people know how l I am

1481
01:02:02,600 --> 01:02:05,760
Speaker 4: of a person. I mean, so I definitely appreciate anything

1482
01:02:05,800 --> 01:02:06,400
Speaker 4: else I'm missing.

1483
01:02:06,760 --> 01:02:07,920
Speaker 7: I feel you got everything.

1484
01:02:10,280 --> 01:02:12,760
Speaker 4: Oh who, what's what's your favorite song? That was a

1485
01:02:12,800 --> 01:02:14,240
Speaker 4: good question because they might be they might just.

1486
01:02:14,280 --> 01:02:18,600
Speaker 7: Be reading I listened to all the time all the time.

1487
01:02:18,600 --> 01:02:20,800
Speaker 7: I actually put that on one of my church seven

1488
01:02:20,880 --> 01:02:22,400
Speaker 7: church steps take it out.

1489
01:02:22,600 --> 01:02:28,400
Speaker 1: Like Genesis, Uh, what's going on with Davies?

1490
01:02:29,640 --> 01:02:33,560
Speaker 5: I like, you know, you know they listen, but I

1491
01:02:33,680 --> 01:02:35,240
Speaker 5: like when you're on them type of records, it's like

1492
01:02:35,280 --> 01:02:38,560
Speaker 5: the samples you be using, like Status selected, did he did?

1493
01:02:38,640 --> 01:02:41,880
Speaker 4: Joe? The funny thing about that that record is seven

1494
01:02:41,960 --> 01:02:46,480
Speaker 4: years old. So what the day that boy did all

1495
01:02:46,520 --> 01:02:50,800
Speaker 4: of that on the internet, it said, And I'm on

1496
01:02:50,880 --> 01:02:53,000
Speaker 4: my phone looking for something else on the notes. I'm

1497
01:02:53,000 --> 01:02:55,600
Speaker 4: just going through the notes, end up going to the bottom,

1498
01:02:56,280 --> 01:02:58,720
Speaker 4: and I end up pressing. I just pressed it and

1499
01:02:58,800 --> 01:03:01,480
Speaker 4: it came on Jimmy Joel. I was like m and

1500
01:03:01,600 --> 01:03:07,080
Speaker 4: it start going off. I'm like, to god, I paid

1501
01:03:07,080 --> 01:03:09,800
Speaker 4: it for my a andr like my bucket, like nah,

1502
01:03:09,880 --> 01:03:10,560
Speaker 4: load this up.

1503
01:03:12,360 --> 01:03:14,320
Speaker 6: It was no even when you did it was like

1504
01:03:14,400 --> 01:03:15,840
Speaker 6: the I don't know if it was Blacker or it

1505
01:03:15,960 --> 01:03:17,600
Speaker 6: was one of them platforms. When you did that on

1506
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Speaker 6: one of those platforms and I was just watching perform it,

1507
01:03:20,240 --> 01:03:23,400
Speaker 6: I was like, oh, yeah, this is this is the one. Yeah,

1508
01:03:23,720 --> 01:03:25,400
Speaker 6: you could tell if you're you're in a good space

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Speaker 6: right now.

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Speaker 4: It feels like, yeah, it feels good. It feels good.

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01:03:27,320 --> 01:03:28,640
Speaker 4: I mean, it feels good to be able to do

1512
01:03:28,840 --> 01:03:31,160
Speaker 4: music this far and in my in my career and

1513
01:03:31,240 --> 01:03:34,520
Speaker 4: still getting respected as a dope MC, still respected for

1514
01:03:34,600 --> 01:03:36,840
Speaker 4: my fashion sense still. I mean like I got my

1515
01:03:36,880 --> 01:03:39,280
Speaker 4: own little wave out here. So I appreciate that, man, man,

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01:03:39,280 --> 01:03:41,880
Speaker 4: I appreciate that very much. I appreciate New York City really,

1517
01:03:42,000 --> 01:03:45,640
Speaker 4: Like if you know me. You know I'm a New

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01:03:45,840 --> 01:03:51,160
Speaker 4: York period. You did so Ivy. All my music it's

1519
01:03:51,280 --> 01:03:54,000
Speaker 4: New York music, no matter how far it reaches. First

1520
01:03:54,040 --> 01:03:56,760
Speaker 4: it starts with me. I don't put no music out

1521
01:03:56,800 --> 01:03:58,760
Speaker 4: that I don't like myself if it don't hits me

1522
01:03:58,840 --> 01:04:00,920
Speaker 4: the way I needed to hit the nine. And then

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01:04:01,000 --> 01:04:03,440
Speaker 4: after that, I'm in New York. All my records, all

1524
01:04:03,520 --> 01:04:07,480
Speaker 4: my albums about my experiences that started from New York

1525
01:04:07,560 --> 01:04:10,160
Speaker 4: and New York. Body you're working, I mean, matter how

1526
01:04:10,240 --> 01:04:12,440
Speaker 4: far reach so. I really love my town. You know

1527
01:04:12,480 --> 01:04:14,560
Speaker 4: what I mean. You're gonna keep putting on as long

1528
01:04:14,600 --> 01:04:18,000
Speaker 4: as I can. You heard Dip said VL that thing

1529
01:04:18,160 --> 01:04:20,560
Speaker 4: don't change man, February twenty. If y'all go, get the

1530
01:04:20,680 --> 01:04:24,320
Speaker 4: album at the church steps. Appreciate everybody that participated in

1531
01:04:24,400 --> 01:04:24,640
Speaker 4: the hour.

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Speaker 2: There you have it, ladies and gentlemen. Jones take off

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01:04:31,200 --> 01:04:35,120
Speaker 2: my guy absolutely, Jim Jones.

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Speaker 1: It's the Breakfast Club.

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Speaker 4: Good morning, Boom, Wake that ass up in the morning.

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Speaker 1: Breakfast Club