1 00:00:08,320 --> 00:00:12,879 Speaker 1: Welcome to Crime Round Up. I'm Cheryl McCollum and I 2 00:00:13,160 --> 00:00:16,800 Speaker 1: cannot wait to talk to nat to Grace this morning. 3 00:00:17,200 --> 00:00:19,880 Speaker 1: Y'all better hang on. I got a feeling she is 4 00:00:20,000 --> 00:00:20,840 Speaker 1: on fire. 5 00:00:21,560 --> 00:00:23,440 Speaker 2: Good morning, honey, good morning. 6 00:00:23,600 --> 00:00:25,919 Speaker 3: You got me right in the middle of let's see 7 00:00:26,079 --> 00:00:29,040 Speaker 3: cleaning the guinea pig. Canny put in a guinea out 8 00:00:29,480 --> 00:00:32,720 Speaker 3: feeding the grandmammy making up? What does he want? Listen 9 00:00:32,760 --> 00:00:37,680 Speaker 3: to this, John David Lynch. He's not spoiled. I made 10 00:00:37,720 --> 00:00:39,040 Speaker 3: him once and now he once in all the time. 11 00:00:40,120 --> 00:00:42,080 Speaker 3: Let's see what kind of English muffin is it? Hold 12 00:00:42,120 --> 00:00:44,040 Speaker 3: on just a second, wait a minute. It has to 13 00:00:44,080 --> 00:00:48,280 Speaker 3: be a certain kind Thomas original, the kind of course 14 00:00:48,280 --> 00:00:53,159 Speaker 3: that you have to slice yourself. Okay, that with ripped 15 00:00:53,240 --> 00:01:00,760 Speaker 3: up Pavarti cheese, Kroger Brand, Kroger Brand, and bacon on 16 00:01:00,840 --> 00:01:03,520 Speaker 3: a toasted English muffin, and then I wrap it up 17 00:01:03,560 --> 00:01:05,560 Speaker 3: at two paper towels in a certain way and put 18 00:01:05,600 --> 00:01:06,520 Speaker 3: a note beside it. 19 00:01:07,319 --> 00:01:09,280 Speaker 2: Really, that's fabulous. 20 00:01:09,319 --> 00:01:12,880 Speaker 3: What poor woman's going to get him? And then we 21 00:01:13,040 --> 00:01:17,959 Speaker 3: have to have organic whole milk mixed with okay, what 22 00:01:18,080 --> 00:01:20,360 Speaker 3: is it? I have to look at the name ovaltine 23 00:01:20,680 --> 00:01:22,600 Speaker 3: and quick with a straw. 24 00:01:23,000 --> 00:01:25,399 Speaker 2: And you know he's a working man. Oh, yes, that's 25 00:01:25,400 --> 00:01:26,440 Speaker 2: a good way to start. 26 00:01:27,000 --> 00:01:32,720 Speaker 3: He has two jobs this summer, as does Lucy. He's 27 00:01:32,760 --> 00:01:37,280 Speaker 3: working at the hospital and he's working in the bio 28 00:01:37,640 --> 00:01:43,200 Speaker 3: I am so bragging now biomedical engineering program. And I 29 00:01:43,240 --> 00:01:47,480 Speaker 3: don't know exactly what he's doing, but it's regenerating DNA. 30 00:01:47,920 --> 00:01:48,720 Speaker 2: Unbelievable. 31 00:01:48,880 --> 00:01:51,560 Speaker 3: I know. Really, I just try to yell out a 32 00:01:51,600 --> 00:01:53,760 Speaker 3: Latin phrase every once in a while to seem relevant. 33 00:01:53,920 --> 00:01:56,200 Speaker 3: I know, nothing apparently good. 34 00:01:56,200 --> 00:01:58,160 Speaker 1: Well, I know they're both at the hospital, and then 35 00:01:58,200 --> 00:01:59,320 Speaker 1: she's at the law firm. 36 00:01:59,640 --> 00:02:02,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I'm so per out of her. Forget about 37 00:02:02,920 --> 00:02:05,360 Speaker 3: legal research. She did a background search on. 38 00:02:05,320 --> 00:02:09,040 Speaker 2: Some well that will serve her. 39 00:02:09,080 --> 00:02:11,760 Speaker 3: Well, I'm like, good girl, Now you know how to 40 00:02:11,840 --> 00:02:13,680 Speaker 3: do it for every person you date from now on. 41 00:02:14,360 --> 00:02:16,200 Speaker 1: You know, I got to tell you, it's been an 42 00:02:16,320 --> 00:02:19,359 Speaker 1: unusual week for me with not just these cases, but 43 00:02:19,680 --> 00:02:22,919 Speaker 1: in my town. As you know, we have a kind 44 00:02:22,919 --> 00:02:28,000 Speaker 1: of local legend hero for us called Flat Creek Floyd. 45 00:02:28,240 --> 00:02:30,200 Speaker 2: He's an alligator and. 46 00:02:30,720 --> 00:02:35,079 Speaker 1: He's one of those fun little things for our town 47 00:02:35,200 --> 00:02:38,680 Speaker 1: that whenever anybody spotted him, oh, they would take a 48 00:02:38,720 --> 00:02:40,920 Speaker 1: picture and then they'd put on social media where he 49 00:02:41,000 --> 00:02:44,440 Speaker 1: was sunbathing, and he would show up at the golf course, 50 00:02:44,600 --> 00:02:46,320 Speaker 1: he would show up across the street. 51 00:02:46,919 --> 00:02:49,040 Speaker 2: We would see him, of course in the creek. 52 00:02:49,040 --> 00:02:50,880 Speaker 3: You would saying, with a chicken in his mouth. 53 00:02:51,600 --> 00:02:54,040 Speaker 1: It was one of those things that you know, the 54 00:02:54,120 --> 00:02:56,960 Speaker 1: kids in school, of course, loved it, and it was 55 00:02:57,000 --> 00:02:59,880 Speaker 1: a wave that it sounds kind of silly, but our 56 00:03:00,080 --> 00:03:03,760 Speaker 1: town really bonded over him. So if you saw him 57 00:03:04,160 --> 00:03:06,280 Speaker 1: and you would, you know, put on social media where 58 00:03:06,320 --> 00:03:09,360 Speaker 1: he was at. Other people would come to see him, 59 00:03:09,400 --> 00:03:12,240 Speaker 1: to take the picture, to talk about him. So you know, 60 00:03:12,280 --> 00:03:15,520 Speaker 1: there'd be strangers that you hadn't met yet and said, oh, 61 00:03:15,600 --> 00:03:17,480 Speaker 1: you know, look at him, he's gotten so much longer 62 00:03:17,560 --> 00:03:21,400 Speaker 1: or whatever. Well, sadly, he was hit by a car 63 00:03:21,480 --> 00:03:26,240 Speaker 1: last week and couldn't survive his injuries. And you know, 64 00:03:26,280 --> 00:03:30,639 Speaker 1: we really all were sad about him, because again, he's 65 00:03:30,680 --> 00:03:33,680 Speaker 1: somebody that I don't know. It sounds kind of silly 66 00:03:33,680 --> 00:03:35,960 Speaker 1: to people, but I'm just telling you we loved him, 67 00:03:36,000 --> 00:03:37,840 Speaker 1: and all the school kids loved him, and all of 68 00:03:37,880 --> 00:03:38,880 Speaker 1: our neighbors loved him. 69 00:03:39,480 --> 00:03:39,760 Speaker 2: Well. 70 00:03:40,720 --> 00:03:44,440 Speaker 1: People were making t shirts to memorialize him, and then 71 00:03:44,480 --> 00:03:46,400 Speaker 1: there were some people that had some negative things to 72 00:03:46,440 --> 00:03:47,840 Speaker 1: say on social media about that. 73 00:03:48,240 --> 00:03:49,200 Speaker 3: What is there to say? 74 00:03:49,320 --> 00:03:53,600 Speaker 1: It's not like his family's getting unjustly enriched exactly. Well 75 00:03:53,640 --> 00:03:56,200 Speaker 1: then they posted that there's going to be a vigil tonight. 76 00:03:56,480 --> 00:04:01,280 Speaker 1: Well people just went crazy saying all have gone too far, 77 00:04:01,440 --> 00:04:04,440 Speaker 1: y'all a being so silly. But for us, it is 78 00:04:04,520 --> 00:04:06,960 Speaker 1: a way to just come together to say, hey, he 79 00:04:07,120 --> 00:04:09,360 Speaker 1: was a really cool part of this town. Got a 80 00:04:09,400 --> 00:04:14,600 Speaker 1: missing But I say that because I can remember every 81 00:04:14,680 --> 00:04:18,760 Speaker 1: now and then, even with you, with Keith, there's people 82 00:04:18,800 --> 00:04:22,080 Speaker 1: that have something to say, and you have spent your 83 00:04:22,279 --> 00:04:25,760 Speaker 1: life to make sure people remember him that he was 84 00:04:25,800 --> 00:04:29,600 Speaker 1: a baseball player, what he meant to Valdosta State, Your 85 00:04:29,680 --> 00:04:35,760 Speaker 1: town was affected. So when you think of somebody or 86 00:04:35,800 --> 00:04:39,280 Speaker 1: an animal that you love that you care about, that 87 00:04:39,480 --> 00:04:43,120 Speaker 1: ripple effect, Nancy is just crazy. And then to me 88 00:04:43,320 --> 00:04:46,720 Speaker 1: when you are trying so hard, because I think you 89 00:04:46,760 --> 00:04:49,960 Speaker 1: have done a beautiful job. When you wrote that first 90 00:04:49,960 --> 00:04:53,560 Speaker 1: book and I opened it, the first thing I saw 91 00:04:54,279 --> 00:04:57,440 Speaker 1: it was very simple, but it was so profound. 92 00:04:58,080 --> 00:05:02,599 Speaker 2: It just said for Keith, I mean it just hit me. 93 00:05:03,080 --> 00:05:05,919 Speaker 1: Well, then you know you're thinking his mom and dad, 94 00:05:06,480 --> 00:05:09,680 Speaker 1: his sister, your mom and dad, your brother and. 95 00:05:09,600 --> 00:05:12,160 Speaker 2: Sister, the baseball team, the college. 96 00:05:12,440 --> 00:05:16,320 Speaker 1: Like this ripple effect when somebody's trying to say, oh, 97 00:05:17,160 --> 00:05:20,240 Speaker 1: you know, she's just using it for this show. You 98 00:05:20,600 --> 00:05:24,600 Speaker 1: lived it long before there was a show. I tell 99 00:05:24,600 --> 00:05:27,240 Speaker 1: people all the time, you think about it. She was 100 00:05:27,279 --> 00:05:32,920 Speaker 1: a young kid. They were both so young. It transformed 101 00:05:32,960 --> 00:05:36,520 Speaker 1: your life. You were never going to go to law school. 102 00:05:37,000 --> 00:05:39,320 Speaker 1: You weren't going to be a prosecutor. That wasn't even 103 00:05:39,320 --> 00:05:41,600 Speaker 1: on the table. Y'all were going to live in a 104 00:05:41,640 --> 00:05:44,159 Speaker 1: little small town. You were going to teach. He was 105 00:05:44,200 --> 00:05:47,640 Speaker 1: going to work construction. That was gonna be it. That 106 00:05:47,680 --> 00:05:51,400 Speaker 1: ain't what happened. And I think, you know, it's just powerful. 107 00:05:51,800 --> 00:05:55,520 Speaker 1: And I say all of this to say, there is 108 00:05:55,560 --> 00:06:00,640 Speaker 1: a four part docuseriies coming out called One Night Idaho 109 00:06:01,200 --> 00:06:07,480 Speaker 1: the College murders and Nancy. It's only about the people 110 00:06:07,520 --> 00:06:10,360 Speaker 1: that were involved and affected by the crime. 111 00:06:10,560 --> 00:06:14,240 Speaker 2: It's families, friends and roommates. That's it. 112 00:06:14,839 --> 00:06:19,680 Speaker 1: There's no expert weighing in, there's no reporter weighing in. 113 00:06:20,600 --> 00:06:21,920 Speaker 2: It's just those people. 114 00:06:22,080 --> 00:06:26,200 Speaker 1: And I think that to me, whether it's Flat Creek, 115 00:06:26,360 --> 00:06:31,320 Speaker 1: Floyd or Keith or these poor students, that to me 116 00:06:31,480 --> 00:06:32,440 Speaker 1: is what's critical. 117 00:06:32,960 --> 00:06:36,080 Speaker 2: The people that loved them and knew them and understood. 118 00:06:36,960 --> 00:06:39,719 Speaker 1: And I just want to say again publicly to you, 119 00:06:40,800 --> 00:06:44,400 Speaker 1: I think the way you have lived your life and 120 00:06:44,520 --> 00:06:48,839 Speaker 1: made sure all of us knew Keith, knew what happened, 121 00:06:49,320 --> 00:06:55,200 Speaker 1: and most importantly know how you're using what happened to you. 122 00:06:56,800 --> 00:06:57,919 Speaker 3: Well, that was beautiful. 123 00:06:59,240 --> 00:06:59,600 Speaker 2: Wow. 124 00:07:01,360 --> 00:07:04,839 Speaker 3: I never even thought about it. I mean, I know 125 00:07:05,320 --> 00:07:07,839 Speaker 3: I would never have gone to law school if it 126 00:07:07,880 --> 00:07:11,200 Speaker 3: had not been for Keith what happened to him, That 127 00:07:11,240 --> 00:07:12,360 Speaker 3: would never have happened. 128 00:07:13,320 --> 00:07:16,640 Speaker 4: But you know, I don't I don't know how to 129 00:07:17,320 --> 00:07:20,360 Speaker 4: put words to what you said. 130 00:07:21,200 --> 00:07:24,160 Speaker 3: It wasn't a plan. It just kind of evolved. It 131 00:07:24,280 --> 00:07:27,320 Speaker 3: just kind of all happened, if that makes any sense. 132 00:07:28,120 --> 00:07:32,720 Speaker 3: And you know, for years and years I never talked, 133 00:07:32,760 --> 00:07:36,040 Speaker 3: I never spoke to anyone about what happened to Keith. 134 00:07:36,920 --> 00:07:40,520 Speaker 3: When I was in the District Attorney's office. It was 135 00:07:40,600 --> 00:07:46,160 Speaker 3: only till the very very end that I told my 136 00:07:46,240 --> 00:07:49,200 Speaker 3: best friends in the office about Keith. They did not know, 137 00:07:50,040 --> 00:07:57,800 Speaker 3: and I don't know why I didn't, but I didn't. 138 00:07:58,600 --> 00:08:01,760 Speaker 3: And I remember the time I ever talked about it, 139 00:08:01,920 --> 00:08:05,320 Speaker 3: years had passed. I was already at court. 140 00:08:05,080 --> 00:08:08,960 Speaker 4: TV, and no, I was already going I was already 141 00:08:08,960 --> 00:08:11,920 Speaker 4: at Court TV and had been at Court TV, and 142 00:08:11,960 --> 00:08:15,200 Speaker 4: they knew about it, but I never suckered it publicly 143 00:08:16,160 --> 00:08:21,240 Speaker 4: until a friend that you know, Dean They was a 144 00:08:21,280 --> 00:08:26,240 Speaker 4: booker at that time, Larry King. He got me to 145 00:08:26,280 --> 00:08:29,040 Speaker 4: talk about it on Larry King and tell what happened, 146 00:08:29,040 --> 00:08:32,440 Speaker 4: to tell the story. And I remember I was so 147 00:08:33,559 --> 00:08:37,520 Speaker 4: lumixed that he asked me when it happened and I 148 00:08:37,520 --> 00:08:42,680 Speaker 4: said August sixth, and I couldn't remember the year, and 149 00:08:42,760 --> 00:08:44,960 Speaker 4: I got the year wrong, and of course people looked 150 00:08:45,040 --> 00:08:46,840 Speaker 4: up online and then attacked me. 151 00:08:47,400 --> 00:08:49,640 Speaker 3: We're not getting the year right. I don't know what 152 00:08:50,200 --> 00:08:51,400 Speaker 3: because so crazy. 153 00:08:51,559 --> 00:08:52,720 Speaker 2: And That's what I'm talking about. 154 00:08:53,320 --> 00:08:56,760 Speaker 1: I mean, people have these opinions and they are going 155 00:08:56,840 --> 00:09:00,800 Speaker 1: to research something like you made that up, and they 156 00:09:00,800 --> 00:09:04,720 Speaker 1: don't understand trauma. I mean, they don't get it and 157 00:09:04,760 --> 00:09:06,720 Speaker 1: they don't care. I mean, they want to make fun 158 00:09:06,800 --> 00:09:08,800 Speaker 1: that we are sad about an alligator. They want to 159 00:09:08,840 --> 00:09:11,360 Speaker 1: make fun that two roommates survived. 160 00:09:11,600 --> 00:09:14,040 Speaker 2: How could that be? They had to be involved somehow, 161 00:09:14,600 --> 00:09:15,559 Speaker 2: you know, you know. 162 00:09:15,600 --> 00:09:18,439 Speaker 3: The thing about an alligator near our house. We how 163 00:09:18,480 --> 00:09:21,760 Speaker 3: the well, some people will call it a swamp. I 164 00:09:21,800 --> 00:09:25,640 Speaker 3: prefer to call it a creek and it's a turtle 165 00:09:25,679 --> 00:09:30,080 Speaker 3: hangout and there's one spot in the area turtle crossing. 166 00:09:31,000 --> 00:09:34,640 Speaker 3: One got run over and I'm like and did like 167 00:09:35,040 --> 00:09:37,599 Speaker 3: you couldn't. He was going too fast for you. 168 00:09:37,040 --> 00:09:40,440 Speaker 5: You had to run over the And it's a turtle 169 00:09:41,000 --> 00:09:44,559 Speaker 5: that for generations have crossed right there in the road 170 00:09:44,800 --> 00:09:47,480 Speaker 5: at that spot forever, and you had. 171 00:09:47,320 --> 00:09:49,680 Speaker 3: To run over it. I believed it on a yankee, 172 00:09:49,840 --> 00:09:56,320 Speaker 3: but that's it. Just kidding. But yes, I get it. 173 00:09:56,679 --> 00:09:59,920 Speaker 3: I get it. I completely get it, which reminds me 174 00:10:00,559 --> 00:10:03,320 Speaker 3: I'm speed reading. I never have time to actually read 175 00:10:03,360 --> 00:10:06,000 Speaker 3: a book, which is all I did before, you know, 176 00:10:06,040 --> 00:10:09,160 Speaker 3: I got into actually TV. I still had time to 177 00:10:09,200 --> 00:10:12,280 Speaker 3: do it at night when I was a prosecutor. But 178 00:10:12,400 --> 00:10:14,720 Speaker 3: TV is at night too, so that kind of And 179 00:10:14,760 --> 00:10:17,840 Speaker 3: then the children came. But my sister started a book 180 00:10:17,920 --> 00:10:19,960 Speaker 3: and I'm trying to read as fast as she does. 181 00:10:20,840 --> 00:10:23,680 Speaker 3: Swamp Landy. Yes, speaking of gators, I don't know what 182 00:10:23,679 --> 00:10:26,280 Speaker 3: happens in them, but it's awesome. Takes place at a 183 00:10:26,320 --> 00:10:29,360 Speaker 3: Gator theme park. It's it's great so far. Okay, now 184 00:10:29,360 --> 00:10:31,760 Speaker 3: what are we talking about? Coburger? Is that where we're going? 185 00:10:31,840 --> 00:10:33,160 Speaker 2: We're going to talk about coburger. 186 00:10:33,440 --> 00:10:36,360 Speaker 3: Okay, hit me that way about the docu series, I 187 00:10:36,400 --> 00:10:38,199 Speaker 3: haven't is that out because I haven't seen it. 188 00:10:38,480 --> 00:10:41,280 Speaker 1: No, it's not out. It comes out July eleventh. And 189 00:10:41,320 --> 00:10:43,439 Speaker 1: that's what I wanted to ask you, was a prosecutor. 190 00:10:43,960 --> 00:10:50,080 Speaker 1: I think coming out before the August eleventh trial is brilliant. 191 00:10:50,320 --> 00:10:51,360 Speaker 2: Let's set the tone. 192 00:10:52,000 --> 00:10:55,440 Speaker 1: They should be able to tell their story without all 193 00:10:55,480 --> 00:10:56,520 Speaker 1: these rumors. 194 00:10:56,840 --> 00:10:58,720 Speaker 3: I agree, because it's never going to be told in 195 00:10:58,760 --> 00:11:03,040 Speaker 3: court because, as you know, you have to be very wily, 196 00:11:03,360 --> 00:11:05,520 Speaker 3: and I mean that in a good way to get 197 00:11:05,600 --> 00:11:10,200 Speaker 3: evidence about who the victim was in court. Now, I 198 00:11:10,320 --> 00:11:12,360 Speaker 3: found a way. This was the way I would do it. 199 00:11:13,200 --> 00:11:16,640 Speaker 3: I would take a picture, get a picture of the 200 00:11:16,720 --> 00:11:21,200 Speaker 3: victim if I could, in life, and find a way 201 00:11:21,360 --> 00:11:25,720 Speaker 3: to connect it to the forensic evidence. And that way, 202 00:11:25,800 --> 00:11:30,000 Speaker 3: the jury would get to see the victim in life 203 00:11:30,960 --> 00:11:34,280 Speaker 3: and be able to identify with the victim. It's just 204 00:11:34,320 --> 00:11:37,040 Speaker 3: not a name on an autopsy report. It's just not 205 00:11:37,160 --> 00:11:41,240 Speaker 3: a name in an indictment. And of course, whenever I could, 206 00:11:41,320 --> 00:11:44,640 Speaker 3: of course there were times I couldn't. I would have victims' 207 00:11:44,640 --> 00:11:48,800 Speaker 3: families there. That is so important, and I guarantee you 208 00:11:49,640 --> 00:11:52,560 Speaker 3: the victims in the Idaho case are going to be 209 00:11:52,600 --> 00:11:55,920 Speaker 3: front and center, and they're going to great sacrifice to 210 00:11:56,000 --> 00:12:00,600 Speaker 3: be there. It's some seven hour drive for some of them. 211 00:12:00,640 --> 00:12:04,320 Speaker 3: One way, they're gonna have to leave their jobs and 212 00:12:04,720 --> 00:12:09,720 Speaker 3: live in Boise for the duration. I mean, you know, 213 00:12:10,320 --> 00:12:15,680 Speaker 3: when we went to Murdoch or we went to Idaho, 214 00:12:16,400 --> 00:12:20,240 Speaker 3: that was a very big disruption in my family life 215 00:12:20,440 --> 00:12:25,080 Speaker 3: because of the children, right, I mean leaving them alone 216 00:12:25,080 --> 00:12:27,920 Speaker 3: with David. I mean, they're they're gonna live. Like I 217 00:12:27,960 --> 00:12:30,400 Speaker 3: can't told you what happened. I came home from Coburger 218 00:12:30,679 --> 00:12:34,640 Speaker 3: and it looked like, I said, the house has been ransacked. 219 00:12:34,720 --> 00:12:38,959 Speaker 3: What did they take? Did they take the TV? Okay, 220 00:12:39,040 --> 00:12:40,720 Speaker 3: number one, let's start with that, because I gotta have 221 00:12:40,880 --> 00:12:43,880 Speaker 3: Amazon Prime Video to see on my murder shows at night. 222 00:12:45,120 --> 00:12:48,600 Speaker 3: The TV was and I'm like, what'd they take? And 223 00:12:49,400 --> 00:12:52,760 Speaker 3: he just looked at me, said, listen, they're alive. And 224 00:12:52,800 --> 00:12:56,000 Speaker 3: that's about it. They were alive. They are alive. It's 225 00:12:56,040 --> 00:12:59,680 Speaker 3: like living them with the trained beer. They live. They live, 226 00:13:00,280 --> 00:13:02,120 Speaker 3: but it's like they had a campfire in the middle 227 00:13:02,120 --> 00:13:05,760 Speaker 3: of the den floor that said I needed to get home, 228 00:13:05,800 --> 00:13:07,760 Speaker 3: and of course mother fell and went to the hospital 229 00:13:07,840 --> 00:13:11,000 Speaker 3: while I was at Coburger. Of course she did not 230 00:13:11,080 --> 00:13:14,319 Speaker 3: blaming her, but yes, it's a disruption for us. Can 231 00:13:14,360 --> 00:13:17,199 Speaker 3: you imagine what it is for them having to leave 232 00:13:17,800 --> 00:13:22,080 Speaker 3: their job everything and go live in an airbnb or 233 00:13:22,120 --> 00:13:25,680 Speaker 3: whatever for the duration. I remember doing that for Scott 234 00:13:25,679 --> 00:13:28,600 Speaker 3: Peterson and for Top Mom. With Top Mom, I had 235 00:13:28,600 --> 00:13:32,840 Speaker 3: the children with me, okay, and at that time I 236 00:13:32,920 --> 00:13:35,720 Speaker 3: was working also for ABC, which by the way, I 237 00:13:35,760 --> 00:13:40,120 Speaker 3: just started back with them again. And so they would 238 00:13:40,160 --> 00:13:45,520 Speaker 3: get into Disney for free. Of course, the bill for 239 00:13:45,640 --> 00:13:48,000 Speaker 3: eating at Disney, I'm like, can we bring your own food? 240 00:13:49,600 --> 00:13:52,600 Speaker 3: But that they would go to Disney with the granny 241 00:13:52,679 --> 00:13:56,720 Speaker 3: nannies while I would be in the courtroom. But the 242 00:13:56,800 --> 00:13:59,440 Speaker 3: other one we went to Jo d Arius. I lived there, 243 00:14:00,000 --> 00:14:02,720 Speaker 3: and that Scott Peterson. I didn't have children, And I 244 00:14:02,760 --> 00:14:05,160 Speaker 3: remember I lived in a hotel room with an army 245 00:14:05,160 --> 00:14:08,360 Speaker 3: of ants. Yes there was one wall. There had to 246 00:14:08,360 --> 00:14:11,040 Speaker 3: be two hundred of them on the wall. But they 247 00:14:11,120 --> 00:14:12,960 Speaker 3: never bothered me. So I just said, you know what, 248 00:14:13,000 --> 00:14:16,840 Speaker 3: I'm staying in this room with the ants. 249 00:14:17,280 --> 00:14:19,520 Speaker 2: Y'all stay on your side. I'll stay on my side. 250 00:14:19,640 --> 00:14:22,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, But I'm just thinking about what they're going to 251 00:14:22,440 --> 00:14:24,360 Speaker 3: have to go through uprooting their lives. 252 00:14:24,680 --> 00:14:27,720 Speaker 1: And you know they've got friends and co workers that 253 00:14:27,760 --> 00:14:29,400 Speaker 1: they're going to be away from. They're going to be 254 00:14:29,400 --> 00:14:34,560 Speaker 1: away from their church, their neighbors, that support system. That's 255 00:14:34,600 --> 00:14:38,480 Speaker 1: a powerful thing to lose at a time where you 256 00:14:38,600 --> 00:14:39,680 Speaker 1: need them the most. 257 00:14:43,600 --> 00:14:47,520 Speaker 6: How could a beautiful, young first grade teacher be stabbed 258 00:14:47,760 --> 00:14:53,880 Speaker 6: twenty times, including in the bat, allegedly die of suicide? Yes, 259 00:14:54,440 --> 00:14:58,280 Speaker 6: that was a medical examiner's official ruling after a closed 260 00:14:58,280 --> 00:15:02,960 Speaker 6: door meeting. He first named it homicide. Why what Happened 261 00:15:03,280 --> 00:15:08,840 Speaker 6: to Ellen Greenberg? A huge American miscarriage of justice. For 262 00:15:09,000 --> 00:15:14,400 Speaker 6: an in depth look at the facts, see What Happened 263 00:15:14,840 --> 00:15:15,360 Speaker 6: to Ellen? 264 00:15:15,560 --> 00:15:16,520 Speaker 3: On Amazon? 265 00:15:16,840 --> 00:15:22,080 Speaker 6: All proceeds to the National Center for Missing and Exploited Children. 266 00:15:23,360 --> 00:15:25,720 Speaker 3: So who do you think is the leak? You're saying 267 00:15:25,840 --> 00:15:31,600 Speaker 3: the documentary is from family and friends, right, correct? Okay, Well, 268 00:15:31,640 --> 00:15:34,320 Speaker 3: I'll totally watch that. I usually don't watch any of 269 00:15:34,320 --> 00:15:37,440 Speaker 3: the mock docs because it's all and then there was 270 00:15:37,480 --> 00:15:39,680 Speaker 3: a time who was it? It must have been Oxygen, 271 00:15:39,760 --> 00:15:41,920 Speaker 3: I can't remember who it was. So we would like 272 00:15:42,000 --> 00:15:44,520 Speaker 3: you to do a sit down with Toplam Casey Anthony 273 00:15:45,440 --> 00:15:48,000 Speaker 3: and they said it'll rate okay, which you know is 274 00:15:48,080 --> 00:15:53,160 Speaker 3: like does not matter to me? And so I said, well, 275 00:15:53,200 --> 00:15:55,960 Speaker 3: can I ask her the questions I want? I want 276 00:15:55,960 --> 00:15:58,880 Speaker 3: to ask her, and can I control there will be 277 00:15:58,920 --> 00:16:02,280 Speaker 3: no editing because I didn't want it, you know, like 278 00:16:02,400 --> 00:16:07,040 Speaker 3: her answer to be polished up, or if she was 279 00:16:07,080 --> 00:16:09,920 Speaker 3: evasive for that not to show, or when I would 280 00:16:09,920 --> 00:16:12,800 Speaker 3: catch her obviously would catch her in a light. If 281 00:16:12,840 --> 00:16:17,200 Speaker 3: my follow ups would be allowed to get made air 282 00:16:17,400 --> 00:16:20,160 Speaker 3: and they couldn't guarantee it, I'm like, nope, I'm out. 283 00:16:20,640 --> 00:16:21,760 Speaker 3: This is something I'll. 284 00:16:21,600 --> 00:16:26,280 Speaker 1: Totally watch right, family members, friends, you know, that's all 285 00:16:26,320 --> 00:16:29,080 Speaker 1: that's involved with the people that were directly affected. 286 00:16:30,000 --> 00:16:36,720 Speaker 3: Can we talk about the leak now? It was in 287 00:16:36,880 --> 00:16:41,920 Speaker 3: Dateline special last month. I believe it was a special 288 00:16:41,960 --> 00:16:45,520 Speaker 3: investigation as they described it, and it was special, and 289 00:16:45,560 --> 00:16:49,680 Speaker 3: I mean that with no irony, no sarcasm, because they 290 00:16:49,720 --> 00:16:55,040 Speaker 3: had information no one. Let me just say, and you 291 00:16:55,040 --> 00:16:57,040 Speaker 3: can read what you want to into it. No one 292 00:16:57,240 --> 00:17:01,160 Speaker 3: had publicly discussed yet. I'm not so some people didn't 293 00:17:01,160 --> 00:17:03,560 Speaker 3: know about it, but it had not been discussed yet 294 00:17:03,680 --> 00:17:09,160 Speaker 3: at all. And their show, their episode was chalk full 295 00:17:09,560 --> 00:17:13,880 Speaker 3: of details that if people did know about it, they 296 00:17:13,920 --> 00:17:17,920 Speaker 3: had not discussed it on air. At all. I mean 297 00:17:18,080 --> 00:17:21,120 Speaker 3: it was a crap time. So now there is a 298 00:17:22,359 --> 00:17:27,479 Speaker 3: an investigation going on about the Dateline episode. Where did 299 00:17:27,520 --> 00:17:29,840 Speaker 3: they get the information? Mm? 300 00:17:29,920 --> 00:17:33,199 Speaker 2: Hm, what do you make of that? 301 00:17:33,720 --> 00:17:40,040 Speaker 3: Well, here's the thing. It could be anybody from a 302 00:17:40,119 --> 00:17:44,520 Speaker 3: defense lawyer. I don't see the lead defense attorneys, believe 303 00:17:44,520 --> 00:17:46,320 Speaker 3: it or not, and I will certainly keep abuse on 304 00:17:46,359 --> 00:17:51,879 Speaker 3: them whenever possible. I don't see the defense lawyers leaking 305 00:17:51,920 --> 00:17:54,640 Speaker 3: it because it just made Coburger look even more guilty. 306 00:17:55,240 --> 00:17:57,879 Speaker 3: What was leaked like one of it. One piece of 307 00:17:57,920 --> 00:18:01,920 Speaker 3: it was another video from I think a neighbor's home 308 00:18:02,400 --> 00:18:06,000 Speaker 3: that catches a really good shot of the Eluntra, the 309 00:18:06,040 --> 00:18:12,600 Speaker 3: white Elantra, which his Elantra that night, another video. There 310 00:18:12,680 --> 00:18:16,200 Speaker 3: was just a lot of stuff, and that only made 311 00:18:16,200 --> 00:18:23,320 Speaker 3: their client look worse. So I do think it could 312 00:18:23,320 --> 00:18:26,000 Speaker 3: be somebody from the defense side that it's not as 313 00:18:26,080 --> 00:18:29,840 Speaker 3: invested in trying to get him acquitted. It could be peralegal. 314 00:18:30,000 --> 00:18:32,520 Speaker 3: It could be a messenger person. It could be the 315 00:18:32,520 --> 00:18:35,720 Speaker 3: person that xerox is things like hey, I can make 316 00:18:35,960 --> 00:18:38,560 Speaker 3: twenty grand off this. I make a copy of it 317 00:18:38,600 --> 00:18:41,840 Speaker 3: and send it to Dateline. Right. It could be anybody, 318 00:18:43,400 --> 00:18:48,280 Speaker 3: like I said, a courier, an assistant, a secretary. It 319 00:18:48,320 --> 00:18:53,000 Speaker 3: could be someone misguided that wants to you know, sway 320 00:18:53,080 --> 00:18:57,040 Speaker 3: public opinion ahead of time to poison the jury on 321 00:18:57,320 --> 00:19:01,119 Speaker 3: the state's team. I don't think would be one of 322 00:19:01,160 --> 00:19:03,720 Speaker 3: the lawyers because they could be thrown out of the 323 00:19:03,800 --> 00:19:06,560 Speaker 3: legal practice, thrown out of the bar. That would be 324 00:19:06,960 --> 00:19:10,280 Speaker 3: an ethical conduct, no matter how much you want to win. 325 00:19:10,440 --> 00:19:13,639 Speaker 3: Is it worth your bar license, is it worth your 326 00:19:13,720 --> 00:19:20,280 Speaker 3: law license? Because you know, that's like tearing the hens 327 00:19:20,320 --> 00:19:22,280 Speaker 3: off a potter or an artist. You just without a 328 00:19:22,320 --> 00:19:25,680 Speaker 3: law license, you can't practice. So I just don't think 329 00:19:25,720 --> 00:19:28,720 Speaker 3: it would be them, So that narrows it down to me. 330 00:19:29,520 --> 00:19:31,600 Speaker 1: I agree with you, And it seems like it would 331 00:19:31,600 --> 00:19:32,919 Speaker 1: be somebody that benefited. 332 00:19:33,359 --> 00:19:38,120 Speaker 3: They're saying that it appears that it's someone currently or 333 00:19:38,480 --> 00:19:44,600 Speaker 3: formally associated with law enforcement or the prosecution team, and 334 00:19:44,720 --> 00:19:48,199 Speaker 3: I wonder about that. I think most likely because the 335 00:19:48,280 --> 00:19:51,840 Speaker 3: slant was making him look guilty, which I believe he 336 00:19:51,960 --> 00:19:54,280 Speaker 3: is guilty, so any most of the evidence is going 337 00:19:54,320 --> 00:19:56,960 Speaker 3: to make him look guilty. I love it when the 338 00:19:57,000 --> 00:20:01,480 Speaker 3: defense jumps up and goes objection that's inflammatory. I'm like, 339 00:20:01,680 --> 00:20:05,600 Speaker 3: it's inflammatory because he did it. He did it. It 340 00:20:05,640 --> 00:20:10,560 Speaker 3: hadn't done it, it wouldn't be inflammatory, right, So that's 341 00:20:10,800 --> 00:20:12,560 Speaker 3: I'm just anxious to find out. I don't know that 342 00:20:12,560 --> 00:20:14,679 Speaker 3: they will ever get to the bottom of it. It 343 00:20:14,760 --> 00:20:18,879 Speaker 3: just adds another layer of what dire jury instruction, I 344 00:20:18,880 --> 00:20:22,640 Speaker 3: mean jury selection, because now that's another thing you have said, 345 00:20:22,680 --> 00:20:24,480 Speaker 3: did you see the dateline piece? Are you sure you 346 00:20:24,480 --> 00:20:26,119 Speaker 3: didn't see it? Which will probably make a lot of 347 00:20:26,119 --> 00:20:27,600 Speaker 3: them go home and pull it up and watch it. 348 00:20:27,880 --> 00:20:32,480 Speaker 3: So that's just another thing to just another wrench and 349 00:20:32,560 --> 00:20:36,160 Speaker 3: the work, another reason for a delay, which I don't 350 00:20:36,200 --> 00:20:38,320 Speaker 3: think is going to happen. It's just another reason for 351 00:20:38,400 --> 00:20:44,160 Speaker 3: a request for delay. Videos, att records of his phone, 352 00:20:45,440 --> 00:20:49,480 Speaker 3: the content. Oh this was a big one, Cheryl, where he, 353 00:20:49,880 --> 00:20:54,919 Speaker 3: according to the Dateline special was research. Okay, here, we 354 00:20:54,960 --> 00:20:57,040 Speaker 3: did this the other day and you couldn't be there, 355 00:20:57,560 --> 00:21:00,320 Speaker 3: which I was very resentful about. How could you put 356 00:21:00,359 --> 00:21:02,440 Speaker 3: your real job ahead of coming on crime stories. I 357 00:21:02,480 --> 00:21:05,679 Speaker 3: don't know what's happened to you, but okay, this is 358 00:21:05,680 --> 00:21:07,920 Speaker 3: some of these are some of the searches. Listen to this, 359 00:21:09,800 --> 00:21:12,280 Speaker 3: he goes, and I'm starting to see a connection. I'm 360 00:21:12,320 --> 00:21:15,800 Speaker 3: sure they'll flush it out at trial. So when I 361 00:21:15,920 --> 00:21:20,680 Speaker 3: was out in Idaho. The last time I track beat 362 00:21:20,760 --> 00:21:23,000 Speaker 3: on a door over and over and over till finally 363 00:21:23,040 --> 00:21:26,160 Speaker 3: somebody came to it. Because I could hear something in there. 364 00:21:26,480 --> 00:21:29,160 Speaker 3: I knew they were hiding, and it was a guy. 365 00:21:29,800 --> 00:21:35,000 Speaker 3: I remember his tattoos. Nice guy. Coburger's front store neighbor 366 00:21:35,400 --> 00:21:38,840 Speaker 3: at the time, and he described when Coburger moved in, 367 00:21:38,920 --> 00:21:41,160 Speaker 3: the dad came over privately when he has a really 368 00:21:41,240 --> 00:21:44,880 Speaker 3: hard time making friends, could you have a playdate with him? Essentially, 369 00:21:45,920 --> 00:21:50,040 Speaker 3: so I think that guy invited him to a pool party. 370 00:21:51,080 --> 00:21:56,240 Speaker 3: At the pool party, okay, just putting this together. By 371 00:21:56,520 --> 00:21:59,639 Speaker 3: the dates, I believe that was July of the night, 372 00:22:00,000 --> 00:22:01,080 Speaker 3: talking off the top of my head, I don't have 373 00:22:01,119 --> 00:22:02,760 Speaker 3: anything in front of me. I think it was July 374 00:22:02,800 --> 00:22:10,520 Speaker 3: of the night. That night, he starts driving around the 375 00:22:10,640 --> 00:22:14,320 Speaker 3: victims home. So what does the pool party have to 376 00:22:14,359 --> 00:22:16,760 Speaker 3: do with the victims. The victims were not at the 377 00:22:16,760 --> 00:22:21,520 Speaker 3: pool party. On his phone, which was discussed on the 378 00:22:21,600 --> 00:22:26,040 Speaker 3: Dayline special, on his phone there were pictures and a 379 00:22:26,080 --> 00:22:34,639 Speaker 3: cell phone of girls, sorority girls in swimsuits. Okay, go 380 00:22:34,760 --> 00:22:38,160 Speaker 3: with it. If you go and look up those girls 381 00:22:38,760 --> 00:22:43,440 Speaker 3: online on social media, they are friends of the victims. 382 00:22:44,880 --> 00:22:49,879 Speaker 3: Now criminology student would know that you don't kill the 383 00:22:49,920 --> 00:22:52,720 Speaker 3: people you just met. And they're photos of you at 384 00:22:52,720 --> 00:22:55,480 Speaker 3: the pool party that will connect you to every one 385 00:22:55,520 --> 00:22:58,520 Speaker 3: of them. But if you take it a step further 386 00:23:00,080 --> 00:23:06,439 Speaker 3: to their online friends that night of the pool party, 387 00:23:07,080 --> 00:23:09,520 Speaker 3: with no other nexus that I know of, he starts 388 00:23:10,040 --> 00:23:16,719 Speaker 3: going stalking. The king wrote address, and those pictures are 389 00:23:16,760 --> 00:23:19,320 Speaker 3: in a cell phone. And in addition to those pictures, 390 00:23:19,359 --> 00:23:23,840 Speaker 3: which could be the connection, how he picked these victims 391 00:23:23,840 --> 00:23:27,480 Speaker 3: According to the state. In addition to that, there are 392 00:23:27,920 --> 00:23:31,639 Speaker 3: Damn and Google searches of non consensual sex when the 393 00:23:31,720 --> 00:23:41,040 Speaker 3: victim is asleep, drugged, passed out, incapacitated, which is what 394 00:23:41,280 --> 00:23:45,600 Speaker 3: happened to these victims. He thought they were asleep or 395 00:23:45,680 --> 00:23:47,719 Speaker 3: passed out. Get it? 396 00:23:48,240 --> 00:23:48,520 Speaker 2: Yep? 397 00:23:49,000 --> 00:23:50,880 Speaker 1: Do I have to take out a billboard on third 398 00:23:50,920 --> 00:23:54,920 Speaker 1: Avenue for you? You and I early own talked about 399 00:23:55,680 --> 00:23:58,320 Speaker 1: you know, him stalking, that he had to have done that. 400 00:23:58,480 --> 00:24:00,560 Speaker 1: We knew that based on how many times she drove 401 00:24:00,600 --> 00:24:03,439 Speaker 1: around and around, you know. 402 00:24:03,480 --> 00:24:06,160 Speaker 2: And I think when you look at. 403 00:24:05,960 --> 00:24:08,760 Speaker 1: How he entered the home and who he started with, 404 00:24:09,560 --> 00:24:12,880 Speaker 1: it does make the most sense that there's no reason 405 00:24:13,760 --> 00:24:15,159 Speaker 1: to go to the third floor. 406 00:24:15,560 --> 00:24:18,360 Speaker 3: Oh wait, and Another thing, the new hypothesis is that 407 00:24:18,880 --> 00:24:22,439 Speaker 3: along many people have thought kilik On saw This was 408 00:24:22,480 --> 00:24:26,240 Speaker 3: the intended target. Now they're thinking it's Manny Mokan and 409 00:24:26,480 --> 00:24:31,600 Speaker 3: apparently Xana. The new theory is Xana was not killed 410 00:24:31,600 --> 00:24:34,760 Speaker 3: in her sleep, that she ran for it and was 411 00:24:34,840 --> 00:24:40,800 Speaker 3: chased down the stairs, which is really really a scary scenario. 412 00:24:41,359 --> 00:24:44,879 Speaker 1: Yeah, I've never heard that, but you know, I always 413 00:24:44,960 --> 00:24:48,359 Speaker 1: thought Kayley was the target from the beginning, and that 414 00:24:48,680 --> 00:24:51,399 Speaker 1: the thing that kind of was in my head was 415 00:24:51,440 --> 00:24:54,760 Speaker 1: the new car because if you had been stalking them, 416 00:24:55,200 --> 00:24:58,160 Speaker 1: that car didn't fit. That car shouldn't have been there, 417 00:24:58,720 --> 00:25:02,320 Speaker 1: And to me, the killer would know somebody knew was 418 00:25:02,359 --> 00:25:05,919 Speaker 1: in there, whether it's male female, but he shouldn't have 419 00:25:05,960 --> 00:25:09,640 Speaker 1: known the connection of that car. But he went in anyway, 420 00:25:10,800 --> 00:25:12,639 Speaker 1: and then when he got to the third floor and 421 00:25:12,720 --> 00:25:16,960 Speaker 1: there was an additional person, he was not swayed at all. 422 00:25:17,600 --> 00:25:19,800 Speaker 1: But I think it also makes sense of why he 423 00:25:19,800 --> 00:25:22,960 Speaker 1: would leave the sheep behind, why he would be thrown off. 424 00:25:27,040 --> 00:25:31,239 Speaker 3: Dateline's theory, whether it is the state's theory or not, 425 00:25:31,880 --> 00:25:37,360 Speaker 3: is that they intended target was Amogan Maddie and at 426 00:25:37,400 --> 00:25:42,439 Speaker 3: some point Xana wakes up and starts running and he 427 00:25:42,560 --> 00:25:45,880 Speaker 3: chases her down the stairs. So I don't know where 428 00:25:45,920 --> 00:25:50,560 Speaker 3: they're getting that. Do they know about Xanna's blood being 429 00:25:50,640 --> 00:25:56,359 Speaker 3: found on the stairs. But another thing is, remember the 430 00:25:56,600 --> 00:26:01,640 Speaker 3: surviving room. One of the two surviving roommates became afraid 431 00:26:02,080 --> 00:26:06,320 Speaker 3: and ran in the midst of all this, ran from 432 00:26:06,359 --> 00:26:10,760 Speaker 3: her room to the other survivor's room and saw I 433 00:26:10,840 --> 00:26:14,840 Speaker 3: believe it was Xana lying on the floor and thought 434 00:26:14,880 --> 00:26:15,640 Speaker 3: she was passed out. 435 00:26:15,600 --> 00:26:20,919 Speaker 1: Drunk, right, And that same witness overheard, I'm here to 436 00:26:20,960 --> 00:26:24,119 Speaker 1: help you. So that doesn't sound like they're chasing somebody 437 00:26:24,160 --> 00:26:26,959 Speaker 1: down the steps. That sounds like she was up to 438 00:26:27,000 --> 00:26:30,280 Speaker 1: get her door dash and they saw each other. 439 00:26:30,840 --> 00:26:34,760 Speaker 3: So it's all going to become clear. But right now 440 00:26:34,800 --> 00:26:37,560 Speaker 3: it's like we're just trying to read it in a 441 00:26:37,600 --> 00:26:44,159 Speaker 3: crystal ball. We're looking through a glass darkly. So but 442 00:26:44,280 --> 00:26:47,439 Speaker 3: we'll see, we'll see. But right now the search is 443 00:26:47,480 --> 00:26:51,760 Speaker 3: on for whoever whoever leaked that information. There absolutely was 444 00:26:51,800 --> 00:26:54,600 Speaker 3: a leak. As if the state needs another problem. 445 00:26:54,480 --> 00:26:55,120 Speaker 2: That's true. 446 00:26:55,600 --> 00:26:58,399 Speaker 1: We know from Delphi. When you start leaking things, it 447 00:26:58,480 --> 00:27:00,919 Speaker 1: damages both sides. I mean, I hate to tell you, 448 00:27:01,160 --> 00:27:02,320 Speaker 1: but it hurts everybody. 449 00:27:02,760 --> 00:27:05,600 Speaker 3: It does, because you never know how the people that 450 00:27:06,720 --> 00:27:10,360 Speaker 3: ingest that information, how they're gonna take it. And you 451 00:27:10,400 --> 00:27:13,080 Speaker 3: know what I'm about talked out on Denny. You know 452 00:27:13,240 --> 00:27:18,160 Speaker 3: he has exhausted me. But I do know this, brace yourself. 453 00:27:19,400 --> 00:27:22,440 Speaker 3: Kanye is planning to show up in the Diddy courtroom 454 00:27:22,640 --> 00:27:26,080 Speaker 3: to support him. That is the last thing Sean Combs 455 00:27:26,119 --> 00:27:29,439 Speaker 3: needs is Kanye to show up with that half naked 456 00:27:29,480 --> 00:27:32,879 Speaker 3: wife in the courtroom and those titanium teeth. You know 457 00:27:33,000 --> 00:27:35,000 Speaker 3: that's a style decision. I'm not knocking it, but I 458 00:27:35,000 --> 00:27:36,680 Speaker 3: don't think it's gonna help Shawan Combs. 459 00:27:36,720 --> 00:27:37,879 Speaker 2: It is not gonna help. 460 00:27:38,240 --> 00:27:41,240 Speaker 3: No. Have you seen that video of him and the 461 00:27:41,320 --> 00:27:44,200 Speaker 3: dentist's office showing off as one hundred thousand dollars teeth 462 00:27:44,760 --> 00:27:48,960 Speaker 3: and he's just drooling. Well, you haven't been watching crime Stories. 463 00:27:49,000 --> 00:27:50,800 Speaker 3: I'll play it again for you on Monday. 464 00:27:50,760 --> 00:27:52,720 Speaker 2: Do it. I need to see that. 465 00:27:53,640 --> 00:27:56,399 Speaker 3: To see it now, Cheryl, some of us have to 466 00:27:56,440 --> 00:27:56,960 Speaker 3: go to work. 467 00:27:58,080 --> 00:27:58,399 Speaker 2: Listen. 468 00:27:58,520 --> 00:28:01,160 Speaker 1: I appreciate you, and I tell you we do need 469 00:28:01,160 --> 00:28:03,600 Speaker 1: to talk about Diddy, probably next week because the federal 470 00:28:03,640 --> 00:28:07,080 Speaker 1: agents has started to digging at him. 471 00:28:07,280 --> 00:28:12,120 Speaker 2: What was the name of the alligator, Floyd Flat Creek? Floyd? 472 00:28:12,760 --> 00:28:14,000 Speaker 3: May you rest in peace. 473 00:28:14,400 --> 00:28:18,960 Speaker 2: Amen. Amen, thank you friend. I love you, I love you.