1 00:00:02,400 --> 00:00:06,760 Speaker 1: I'm thrilled today to be joined by state Representative Gloria Johnson, 2 00:00:06,840 --> 00:00:11,880 Speaker 1: who is running against Marshall Blackburn from the Great State 3 00:00:11,960 --> 00:00:14,760 Speaker 1: of Tennessee for the United States Senate. 4 00:00:14,800 --> 00:00:15,000 Speaker 2: See. 5 00:00:15,080 --> 00:00:20,919 Speaker 1: Gloria Johnson is from eastern Tennessee from the city of Knoxville, 6 00:00:21,560 --> 00:00:25,200 Speaker 1: represents that area in the state legislature. We're thrilled to 7 00:00:25,280 --> 00:00:28,440 Speaker 1: have per with us today on the warning as we 8 00:00:28,640 --> 00:00:33,880 Speaker 1: continue to bring unfiltered some of the leading Democrats in 9 00:00:34,000 --> 00:00:38,040 Speaker 1: the country who unfortunately you're not going to see much 10 00:00:38,680 --> 00:00:43,360 Speaker 1: on the Acela court or media because they are not 11 00:00:43,600 --> 00:00:47,080 Speaker 1: incumbents yet in the United States Senate. So when you're 12 00:00:47,120 --> 00:00:51,800 Speaker 1: a challenger running against an incumbent, it's a hard road. 13 00:00:52,680 --> 00:00:56,520 Speaker 1: But when you're more than one hundred days out Gloria 14 00:00:56,640 --> 00:01:02,560 Speaker 1: Johnson in a tight race behind but in striking distance, 15 00:01:03,760 --> 00:01:06,319 Speaker 1: you don't want to be like Trump in this business 16 00:01:06,360 --> 00:01:09,479 Speaker 1: where you have your best day one hundred and thirty 17 00:01:09,560 --> 00:01:12,679 Speaker 1: days before the election. You want to have it on 18 00:01:12,959 --> 00:01:15,720 Speaker 1: election Day. And you know one thing I would say, 19 00:01:16,160 --> 00:01:19,240 Speaker 1: you know to Tennessee voters that are that are listening. 20 00:01:19,319 --> 00:01:22,800 Speaker 1: I said this to John McCain as he was climbing 21 00:01:22,840 --> 00:01:25,600 Speaker 1: back from being in last place and I mean dead 22 00:01:25,680 --> 00:01:29,479 Speaker 1: last in the Republican primaries in two thousand and seven 23 00:01:29,920 --> 00:01:34,040 Speaker 1: go into two thousand and eight, was that we needed 24 00:01:34,080 --> 00:01:38,640 Speaker 1: to be ahead on exactly one day, and that was 25 00:01:38,760 --> 00:01:41,560 Speaker 1: election Day, and we needed to be up on the 26 00:01:41,560 --> 00:01:45,560 Speaker 1: top of the mountain on that day. Now, election day 27 00:01:45,640 --> 00:01:50,520 Speaker 1: starts a little earlier these days in that there's early 28 00:01:50,600 --> 00:01:54,200 Speaker 1: voting and all of that stuff, which warning viewers are 29 00:01:54,200 --> 00:01:59,120 Speaker 1: familiar with. But no matter all of that, Gloria Johnson 30 00:01:59,200 --> 00:02:04,200 Speaker 1: has momentum them and she's running against really a person 31 00:02:04,920 --> 00:02:11,120 Speaker 1: that it astonishes the imagination that the very same state 32 00:02:12,160 --> 00:02:17,000 Speaker 1: that would send Al Gore Senior to the United States Senate, 33 00:02:17,080 --> 00:02:21,359 Speaker 1: Al Gore Junior to the United States Senate, Howard Baker 34 00:02:21,440 --> 00:02:25,880 Speaker 1: to the United States Senate Lemoar Alexander to the United 35 00:02:25,919 --> 00:02:30,360 Speaker 1: States Senate Fred Thompson to the United States Senate. 36 00:02:30,919 --> 00:02:33,760 Speaker 2: Bill Frist to the United States Senate. 37 00:02:34,360 --> 00:02:43,680 Speaker 1: People of astonishing character, astonishing accomplishment, astonishing intellect both parties. 38 00:02:44,120 --> 00:02:50,440 Speaker 1: You get Marsha Blackburn, whose list of crazy statements is 39 00:02:50,600 --> 00:02:56,000 Speaker 1: longer than the Mississippi River. And with that, it's really 40 00:02:56,040 --> 00:03:01,960 Speaker 1: my pleasure to introduce someone who represents better for Tennessee, 41 00:03:02,960 --> 00:03:06,640 Speaker 1: which is important because Tennessee is a vital state of 42 00:03:06,680 --> 00:03:10,480 Speaker 1: the Union, one of the great states of our Union, 43 00:03:10,600 --> 00:03:16,680 Speaker 1: a really special, vibrant, a live place in America, center 44 00:03:16,720 --> 00:03:20,639 Speaker 1: of our American culture, the beating heart in many ways 45 00:03:20,760 --> 00:03:22,880 Speaker 1: musically of our American civilization. 46 00:03:23,400 --> 00:03:25,440 Speaker 2: Gloria Johnson, welcome to the warning. 47 00:03:25,760 --> 00:03:29,480 Speaker 3: Thank you so much for having me. I appreciate it. Yeah, 48 00:03:29,520 --> 00:03:32,720 Speaker 3: we're going to correct that mistake in the Senate this 49 00:03:32,880 --> 00:03:36,280 Speaker 3: election cycle in November. So we are excited about that. 50 00:03:36,600 --> 00:03:36,960 Speaker 2: Okay. 51 00:03:37,000 --> 00:03:41,680 Speaker 1: So I ran Arnold Schwarzenegger's campaign in two thousand and six, 52 00:03:41,760 --> 00:03:45,160 Speaker 1: which was a terrible Republican year. We won decisively by 53 00:03:45,200 --> 00:03:51,360 Speaker 1: seventeen points. So you can do this in Tennessee. This 54 00:03:51,520 --> 00:03:54,760 Speaker 1: is good news for you now that Kamala Harris is 55 00:03:54,840 --> 00:03:58,360 Speaker 1: on top of the ticket. It's energized Democrats, it will 56 00:03:58,480 --> 00:04:03,920 Speaker 1: energize women voters, young women voters, energized black voters to 57 00:04:04,040 --> 00:04:07,720 Speaker 1: turn out. So all of these things are are good 58 00:04:07,760 --> 00:04:11,760 Speaker 1: for you at a foundation level, because you know, politics 59 00:04:11,800 --> 00:04:12,360 Speaker 1: isn't fair. 60 00:04:12,480 --> 00:04:14,640 Speaker 2: Sometimes you have the wind with you. 61 00:04:16,440 --> 00:04:19,160 Speaker 1: At your back, and other times you have the wind 62 00:04:20,400 --> 00:04:24,440 Speaker 1: blowing into you, holding you back. And and so if 63 00:04:24,440 --> 00:04:27,839 Speaker 1: it's a you're a Democrat in Tennessee right after the 64 00:04:28,160 --> 00:04:31,560 Speaker 1: after the debate, not good news. You're in a you're 65 00:04:31,560 --> 00:04:34,800 Speaker 1: in a much better position. But you're running against a 66 00:04:35,160 --> 00:04:42,960 Speaker 1: very polarizing, very weak, really very strange woman, a very 67 00:04:43,000 --> 00:04:47,760 Speaker 1: extreme woman who says a lot of crazy things, who 68 00:04:48,160 --> 00:04:51,159 Speaker 1: and so very recently in American life, right, we just 69 00:04:51,240 --> 00:04:52,520 Speaker 1: have been found unfit. 70 00:04:53,200 --> 00:04:54,600 Speaker 2: Right that, Hey, we. 71 00:04:54,640 --> 00:04:58,400 Speaker 1: Want to put you know, this person into the Senate 72 00:04:58,400 --> 00:05:00,920 Speaker 1: in no way. But you know, she's a Marjorie Taylor 73 00:05:01,000 --> 00:05:05,680 Speaker 1: Green of sorts, really a predecessor, you know, but deeply 74 00:05:05,800 --> 00:05:07,080 Speaker 1: linked to her like jd. 75 00:05:07,360 --> 00:05:08,640 Speaker 2: Vance is, you. 76 00:05:08,560 --> 00:05:11,200 Speaker 1: Know, out there out there on the on the French 77 00:05:11,440 --> 00:05:18,400 Speaker 1: antithetical to kind of the tradition of statesmanship and stateswomen 78 00:05:18,600 --> 00:05:21,039 Speaker 1: out of the state of Tennessee. But how are you 79 00:05:21,080 --> 00:05:23,320 Speaker 1: going to beat her? How are you going at her? 80 00:05:23,400 --> 00:05:26,760 Speaker 1: Tell us your story, introduce yourself, and just take as 81 00:05:26,760 --> 00:05:29,599 Speaker 1: long as you as you want, because we're gonna ask 82 00:05:29,640 --> 00:05:33,640 Speaker 1: everybody watching to send money and support and get involved 83 00:05:33,680 --> 00:05:34,440 Speaker 1: in the campaign. 84 00:05:35,200 --> 00:05:41,320 Speaker 3: Sure, absolutely, Well, you know, I decide I've been in 85 00:05:41,320 --> 00:05:45,919 Speaker 3: the state House for eight years. I've gone back and forth. 86 00:05:45,960 --> 00:05:50,120 Speaker 3: They've redistricted my district once I want it, after it 87 00:05:50,160 --> 00:05:52,680 Speaker 3: went from a plus two d district to a plus 88 00:05:52,720 --> 00:05:55,520 Speaker 3: twelve R district. I'm one of just a handful of 89 00:05:55,560 --> 00:05:58,880 Speaker 3: folks in Tennessee who have flipped a red seat multiple times. 90 00:05:59,360 --> 00:06:03,680 Speaker 3: Because this last time, they jerrymandered just my block out 91 00:06:03,760 --> 00:06:07,240 Speaker 3: of my precinct and put it into the only other 92 00:06:07,360 --> 00:06:11,400 Speaker 3: Democratic seat in Knoxville, and they thought I would run 93 00:06:11,440 --> 00:06:15,880 Speaker 3: against my colleague, which I refused to do. So I 94 00:06:16,000 --> 00:06:19,200 Speaker 3: moved six blocks back into the district I'd lived in 95 00:06:19,240 --> 00:06:22,440 Speaker 3: for thirty years that they had redrawn so I couldn't 96 00:06:22,480 --> 00:06:27,279 Speaker 3: win it, and I won it again. And you know, 97 00:06:27,360 --> 00:06:31,520 Speaker 3: I'd been thinking about this from January of twenty twenty three. 98 00:06:31,560 --> 00:06:35,680 Speaker 3: I just thought, you know, Tennessee, which many in the 99 00:06:35,720 --> 00:06:38,400 Speaker 3: country saw a little over a year ago when we 100 00:06:38,520 --> 00:06:43,520 Speaker 3: had to go to the Well and speak to the 101 00:06:43,720 --> 00:06:47,400 Speaker 3: thousands of folks who showed up from the Covenant shooting. 102 00:06:47,520 --> 00:06:51,080 Speaker 3: After the Covenant shooting where we lost three students and 103 00:06:51,120 --> 00:06:56,359 Speaker 3: three staff members, the thousands just gathered at the Capitol, 104 00:06:56,400 --> 00:06:59,680 Speaker 3: and it was Covenant families, but it was also families 105 00:06:59,680 --> 00:07:03,200 Speaker 3: from Boxville who were tired of gun violence, families from 106 00:07:03,240 --> 00:07:05,960 Speaker 3: Memphis who were tired of gun violence. It was students, 107 00:07:06,400 --> 00:07:09,880 Speaker 3: it was parents, it was grandparents, it was teachers, and 108 00:07:10,360 --> 00:07:14,040 Speaker 3: they gathered by the thousands every day, and the legislature, 109 00:07:14,240 --> 00:07:18,920 Speaker 3: the Republicans refused to acknowledge them. They just refused to 110 00:07:19,040 --> 00:07:23,320 Speaker 3: allow us to do and we have welcoming and honoring 111 00:07:23,400 --> 00:07:27,000 Speaker 3: every morning. On that particular day, they did not have 112 00:07:27,160 --> 00:07:30,400 Speaker 3: welcoming and honoring. We had gotten there early, parents had 113 00:07:30,440 --> 00:07:34,120 Speaker 3: showed up. We started at nine. I got there about 114 00:07:34,160 --> 00:07:36,360 Speaker 3: seven thirty just to talk to the parents who were 115 00:07:36,360 --> 00:07:39,960 Speaker 3: showing up to see how they were feeling, and mothers 116 00:07:40,000 --> 00:07:41,760 Speaker 3: with tears in their eyes just told me I just 117 00:07:41,840 --> 00:07:44,720 Speaker 3: dropped my kids at school. I hope they're safe when 118 00:07:44,720 --> 00:07:46,400 Speaker 3: I go to pick them up or when I go 119 00:07:46,480 --> 00:07:49,520 Speaker 3: to meet the bus. This is a community that was 120 00:07:49,600 --> 00:07:53,600 Speaker 3: hurting so badly. And then when my Republican colleagues walked 121 00:07:53,600 --> 00:07:56,120 Speaker 3: past them onto the house floor, they wouldn't even make 122 00:07:56,160 --> 00:08:00,440 Speaker 3: eye contact with them, just not even acknowledge that they 123 00:08:00,480 --> 00:08:04,040 Speaker 3: were there. And so we felt very strongly about being 124 00:08:04,080 --> 00:08:07,080 Speaker 3: able to acknowledge, being able to tell them that we 125 00:08:07,160 --> 00:08:10,880 Speaker 3: saw them and we heard them, and we cared about 126 00:08:11,720 --> 00:08:14,800 Speaker 3: their issues, and we were going to fight for guns 127 00:08:14,800 --> 00:08:19,360 Speaker 3: since legislation, and either we were not called on or 128 00:08:19,400 --> 00:08:23,520 Speaker 3: our mics were cut every time we tried to speak 129 00:08:23,560 --> 00:08:27,000 Speaker 3: to that and just recognize that they were there. And 130 00:08:27,360 --> 00:08:30,880 Speaker 3: so finally we just decided to go to the well. 131 00:08:31,880 --> 00:08:36,800 Speaker 3: And just the fact the way people showed up and 132 00:08:36,880 --> 00:08:42,400 Speaker 3: continued to show up gave us hope, really for the 133 00:08:42,440 --> 00:08:46,880 Speaker 3: first time in a really tough legislature where democratic norms 134 00:08:46,920 --> 00:08:51,199 Speaker 3: were just being just being put by the side, you know, 135 00:08:51,320 --> 00:08:54,880 Speaker 3: not having debate on bills, not calling on people, cutting 136 00:08:54,920 --> 00:08:58,880 Speaker 3: people's microphone just because you didn't like what they said. 137 00:08:59,559 --> 00:09:02,160 Speaker 3: This is not how the process is supposed to work. 138 00:09:02,600 --> 00:09:06,080 Speaker 3: And people all over the country, not just Tennessee, and 139 00:09:06,240 --> 00:09:11,160 Speaker 3: saw that. And so what happened in those days that 140 00:09:11,280 --> 00:09:16,959 Speaker 3: everyone gathered together, all the thousands of people, they turned 141 00:09:17,000 --> 00:09:20,600 Speaker 3: into a movement, or it boosted a movement that was 142 00:09:20,679 --> 00:09:24,200 Speaker 3: already rolling sort of under the surface, but it just 143 00:09:24,280 --> 00:09:26,800 Speaker 3: blew it up. And so all of these people that 144 00:09:26,920 --> 00:09:30,040 Speaker 3: came from all over they sang together, they chanted together, 145 00:09:30,160 --> 00:09:33,640 Speaker 3: they ordered pizza and had lunch together, They talked to 146 00:09:33,720 --> 00:09:36,120 Speaker 3: each other and about the things that they cared about, 147 00:09:36,520 --> 00:09:40,240 Speaker 3: and just really committed to support each other on through 148 00:09:40,320 --> 00:09:44,040 Speaker 3: to this election. And so we've been building that movement 149 00:09:44,080 --> 00:09:48,480 Speaker 3: and building that momentum and people it's a multi racial, 150 00:09:48,720 --> 00:09:55,679 Speaker 3: multi generational, and multipartisan movement. I had fifty Republicans at 151 00:09:55,720 --> 00:09:59,800 Speaker 3: might kickoff. That doesn't happen, and we have a lot 152 00:09:59,840 --> 00:10:05,559 Speaker 3: of Republicans and independence on board, and just knew that 153 00:10:06,000 --> 00:10:08,680 Speaker 3: if we wanted to fix things in Tennessee, we needed 154 00:10:08,679 --> 00:10:11,280 Speaker 3: someone running at the top of the ticket who was 155 00:10:11,320 --> 00:10:15,600 Speaker 3: going to speak to Democratic values, get that message out 156 00:10:15,640 --> 00:10:19,480 Speaker 3: statewide and help flip some of these down ballot House 157 00:10:19,520 --> 00:10:23,280 Speaker 3: and Senate seats as well as winning a US Senate 158 00:10:23,320 --> 00:10:28,360 Speaker 3: seat for a Democrat. And we are absolutely going to 159 00:10:28,440 --> 00:10:32,960 Speaker 3: do that. People say that a Democrat can't win in Tennessee. 160 00:10:33,080 --> 00:10:35,800 Speaker 3: We are not a red state. We're a non voting state. 161 00:10:36,160 --> 00:10:40,319 Speaker 3: We are typically fiftieth or fifty first in voter turnout. 162 00:10:41,160 --> 00:10:44,880 Speaker 3: Marshall Blackburn won in twenty eighteen by two hundred thousand votes. 163 00:10:45,200 --> 00:10:49,240 Speaker 3: There are three hundred thousand Democratic voters who haven't voted 164 00:10:49,240 --> 00:10:52,200 Speaker 3: the last few cycles because they think their vote doesn't matter. 165 00:10:52,800 --> 00:10:55,520 Speaker 3: We're talking to those voters. We're not operating on the 166 00:10:55,520 --> 00:11:00,360 Speaker 3: twenty eighteen maps. Demographics are changing in Tennessee and we 167 00:11:00,400 --> 00:11:03,240 Speaker 3: are going to get those three hundred thousand voters out 168 00:11:03,360 --> 00:11:07,040 Speaker 3: because they recognize how important this is we win by 169 00:11:07,080 --> 00:11:11,000 Speaker 3: expanding the map, getting those voters to the polls. And 170 00:11:11,040 --> 00:11:13,640 Speaker 3: when we do that, we win this US Senate race. 171 00:11:14,040 --> 00:11:19,319 Speaker 3: Plus we flip down ballot House seats and state Senate seats. 172 00:11:19,880 --> 00:11:23,040 Speaker 3: And that's what we're going to do. And they're helping 173 00:11:23,160 --> 00:11:26,199 Speaker 3: us along the way. I mean, when you look at 174 00:11:26,880 --> 00:11:30,719 Speaker 3: the top of the ticket in the Republican Party, you've 175 00:11:30,760 --> 00:11:35,280 Speaker 3: got an adjudicated rapist who has been convicted of thirty 176 00:11:35,280 --> 00:11:40,120 Speaker 3: four felonies. And then you've got and then you've got 177 00:11:40,679 --> 00:11:46,080 Speaker 3: a vice president christ presidential candidate who believes women should 178 00:11:46,120 --> 00:11:49,640 Speaker 3: stay with their abusers and also believes in a federal 179 00:11:49,679 --> 00:11:54,240 Speaker 3: abortion ban and things women without children are useless to society. 180 00:11:55,120 --> 00:11:58,560 Speaker 3: And then you've got Marsha Blackburn, who voted against the 181 00:11:58,640 --> 00:12:02,240 Speaker 3: violence against women at voted against equil pay for women, 182 00:12:02,600 --> 00:12:06,600 Speaker 3: believes in a federal abortion of van and even questions 183 00:12:06,720 --> 00:12:12,239 Speaker 3: Griswold versus Connecticuts and the decision that gave us access 184 00:12:12,760 --> 00:12:17,160 Speaker 3: to birth control. It is remarkable that three that these 185 00:12:17,240 --> 00:12:21,040 Speaker 3: three folks think that women are going to vote for them, 186 00:12:21,600 --> 00:12:25,800 Speaker 3: And the reality is this puts Tennessee women and girls 187 00:12:26,240 --> 00:12:29,800 Speaker 3: in grave danger. We have one of the strictest abortion 188 00:12:29,960 --> 00:12:33,680 Speaker 3: bands in the country. We only have an exception for 189 00:12:33,800 --> 00:12:38,920 Speaker 3: ectopic and molar pregnancies and dead fetuses. That's it. The 190 00:12:38,960 --> 00:12:44,479 Speaker 3: rest for life of the mother not covered. Rapid incests 191 00:12:44,520 --> 00:12:48,320 Speaker 3: not covered. Tennessee forces a ten year old girl to 192 00:12:48,440 --> 00:12:52,640 Speaker 3: carry her rapist baby. Tennessee forces a woman. They give 193 00:12:52,720 --> 00:12:55,960 Speaker 3: more rights to a violent rapist. A violent rapist has 194 00:12:55,960 --> 00:12:58,400 Speaker 3: the right to choose the mother of their child, but 195 00:12:58,480 --> 00:13:01,719 Speaker 3: a woman can't choose not have a rapist baby. This 196 00:13:01,800 --> 00:13:03,920 Speaker 3: is what Tennessee is like. And here in this state, 197 00:13:04,480 --> 00:13:07,320 Speaker 3: we have got more than one third of our county 198 00:13:07,360 --> 00:13:11,920 Speaker 3: of our state with no obgyn. We've got a third 199 00:13:11,960 --> 00:13:14,840 Speaker 3: to a half of the state with no delivery room. 200 00:13:15,559 --> 00:13:17,559 Speaker 3: That ten year old girl could be an hour and 201 00:13:17,600 --> 00:13:21,880 Speaker 3: a half away from a hospital or an obgyn. And 202 00:13:21,920 --> 00:13:25,680 Speaker 3: we know that children in carrying a pregnancy are two 203 00:13:25,800 --> 00:13:29,079 Speaker 3: times more likely to die than adult women in a pregnancy, 204 00:13:29,760 --> 00:13:33,239 Speaker 3: and in Tennessee's one of the highest states with maternal mortality. 205 00:13:34,360 --> 00:13:38,400 Speaker 3: That they're putting women and girls in danger in the state, 206 00:13:38,920 --> 00:13:41,000 Speaker 3: and they don't think we're going to get to the polls. 207 00:13:42,000 --> 00:13:44,480 Speaker 3: It's going to be a different story for Tennessee this year. 208 00:13:44,880 --> 00:13:45,760 Speaker 2: Talk to me about that. 209 00:13:46,040 --> 00:13:50,960 Speaker 1: On the ground, the extremism of all of this with 210 00:13:51,480 --> 00:13:57,640 Speaker 1: actual women without giving a speech about it. I did 211 00:13:57,760 --> 00:14:00,720 Speaker 1: the Ken Ryan campaign. I was deeply in It's the 212 00:14:00,720 --> 00:14:04,440 Speaker 1: best political campaign I've ever ever been involved in. It 213 00:14:04,520 --> 00:14:11,240 Speaker 1: was flawless campaign. The team that ran it did an 214 00:14:11,240 --> 00:14:15,480 Speaker 1: extraordinary job. Brandon Hall, the media consultant, Da've Chased, the 215 00:14:15,520 --> 00:14:20,200 Speaker 1: campaign manager, took the Republicans fifty seven million dollars in 216 00:14:20,360 --> 00:14:25,680 Speaker 1: spending to defeat Tim, who had jd Vance defeated by 217 00:14:25,800 --> 00:14:29,720 Speaker 1: August of Schumer had spent five million on the race 218 00:14:30,080 --> 00:14:33,360 Speaker 1: in that campaign, at the top of the ticket went 219 00:14:33,440 --> 00:14:40,000 Speaker 1: down by twenty six points and Tim went down by five. Right, 220 00:14:40,160 --> 00:14:44,520 Speaker 1: So meaning if the race goes seventeen eighteen, jd Vance 221 00:14:44,640 --> 00:14:47,320 Speaker 1: isn't isn't in the Senate and you're you're in the 222 00:14:47,440 --> 00:14:51,000 Speaker 1: You're at the top of the ticket in this race, 223 00:14:51,040 --> 00:14:54,720 Speaker 1: so you can clearly talk about this. So I'm struck 224 00:14:56,160 --> 00:15:01,920 Speaker 1: by this, which is, and you think about this election 225 00:15:03,760 --> 00:15:07,960 Speaker 1: as somebody who's talked about these issues for nine years, 226 00:15:09,240 --> 00:15:15,800 Speaker 1: I can't think of an alchemy a mix of things 227 00:15:16,520 --> 00:15:23,320 Speaker 1: to say to the ladies to more directly and better 228 00:15:23,400 --> 00:15:27,000 Speaker 1: improve on what you said, which is that you have 229 00:15:27,240 --> 00:15:33,280 Speaker 1: a power that you have not used that now is 230 00:15:33,320 --> 00:15:37,880 Speaker 1: the time to use. It's the time to use this power. 231 00:15:38,000 --> 00:15:43,280 Speaker 1: If you can't persuade women eighteen years of age, twenty 232 00:15:43,320 --> 00:15:45,960 Speaker 1: years of age, I have a twenty year old. A 233 00:15:45,960 --> 00:15:50,400 Speaker 1: lot of the college kids making fun of Biden's age 234 00:15:50,520 --> 00:15:55,520 Speaker 1: on TikTok, which blurs the difference in the celebrity laden 235 00:15:55,600 --> 00:15:59,160 Speaker 1: culture between the threat and the celebrity. And it's just 236 00:15:59,320 --> 00:16:05,880 Speaker 1: one more kind of reality show, Michi goos as opposed 237 00:16:05,920 --> 00:16:08,160 Speaker 1: to a deep threat that you just articulated. 238 00:16:08,320 --> 00:16:11,880 Speaker 2: I just when you see women. 239 00:16:13,160 --> 00:16:18,520 Speaker 1: Who are undecided and confused about the race, about these 240 00:16:18,720 --> 00:16:21,920 Speaker 1: about these issues, what is it that you say to 241 00:16:22,000 --> 00:16:28,680 Speaker 1: them persuasively that you don't belong with this crowd in 242 00:16:28,720 --> 00:16:34,160 Speaker 1: a quasi religious cult, right taping pantages to the side 243 00:16:34,200 --> 00:16:39,200 Speaker 1: of your head, venerating this messianic figure right now, who's 244 00:16:39,240 --> 00:16:43,880 Speaker 1: a convicted felon, the worst president in American history, also 245 00:16:44,000 --> 00:16:48,720 Speaker 1: too old to be president at seventy eight to eighty two. 246 00:16:48,960 --> 00:16:51,400 Speaker 1: But what do you say to them, right to women 247 00:16:51,600 --> 00:16:55,560 Speaker 1: as a as a woman, about a woman who's clearly 248 00:16:55,600 --> 00:16:57,640 Speaker 1: on the side of all of this insanity. 249 00:16:58,040 --> 00:17:01,360 Speaker 3: Well, I think that a lot of women have made 250 00:17:01,360 --> 00:17:03,640 Speaker 3: this decision already. I mean a lot of women I 251 00:17:03,640 --> 00:17:06,600 Speaker 3: didn't have have to convince, They've already come over. That's 252 00:17:06,640 --> 00:17:10,280 Speaker 3: why I'm beating Marsha forty nine to forty three percent 253 00:17:10,359 --> 00:17:13,320 Speaker 3: with women is because they're getting it. But mostly I 254 00:17:13,359 --> 00:17:16,000 Speaker 3: have the conversation because I think of it in terms 255 00:17:16,080 --> 00:17:22,080 Speaker 3: as equality. Women aren't equal if we don't have bodily autonomy. 256 00:17:22,200 --> 00:17:25,680 Speaker 3: And sometimes when I talk to women and make that statement, 257 00:17:25,720 --> 00:17:28,080 Speaker 3: they think, oh, I never thought of it that way. 258 00:17:28,840 --> 00:17:32,399 Speaker 3: That you know, we are not equal. We are second 259 00:17:32,400 --> 00:17:36,080 Speaker 3: class citizens if we do not have autonomy over our 260 00:17:36,119 --> 00:17:39,200 Speaker 3: own body. These are decisions that need to be made 261 00:17:39,240 --> 00:17:42,359 Speaker 3: with a woman and her doctor, her family, her god, 262 00:17:42,640 --> 00:17:47,240 Speaker 3: you know, but not a legislature in the doctor's office 263 00:17:47,400 --> 00:17:50,920 Speaker 3: or the governor in the doctor's office. And they really 264 00:17:51,080 --> 00:17:55,520 Speaker 3: understand that, I mean they really understand. And you also 265 00:17:55,600 --> 00:17:58,479 Speaker 3: talk about if we want to decrease the number of 266 00:17:58,600 --> 00:18:02,199 Speaker 3: unwanted pregnancies, but we've got to be serious about in 267 00:18:02,240 --> 00:18:06,840 Speaker 3: this state, we have an expanded Medicaid give women access 268 00:18:06,880 --> 00:18:11,760 Speaker 3: to affordable health care, so they're not seeing the doctor 269 00:18:11,840 --> 00:18:14,680 Speaker 3: the first time when they find out they're pregnant. You know, 270 00:18:14,760 --> 00:18:18,399 Speaker 3: they will if they're going to a doctor throughout their life. 271 00:18:18,840 --> 00:18:21,600 Speaker 3: They're going to know more about their health. Are they 272 00:18:21,640 --> 00:18:25,119 Speaker 3: healthy enough to carry a pregnancy? All of these things. 273 00:18:25,160 --> 00:18:28,080 Speaker 3: But since we don't give all women access to health care, 274 00:18:28,480 --> 00:18:32,399 Speaker 3: they're not necessarily healthy when they get pregnant. And so 275 00:18:32,520 --> 00:18:34,119 Speaker 3: if we want to be sure that we want to 276 00:18:34,119 --> 00:18:36,480 Speaker 3: make sure they have access to health care, we want 277 00:18:36,480 --> 00:18:40,160 Speaker 3: to make sure women have access to contraception. I brought 278 00:18:40,200 --> 00:18:42,879 Speaker 3: a bill this past year in the legislature which is 279 00:18:42,920 --> 00:18:47,639 Speaker 3: a right to contraception an IVF, and not a single 280 00:18:47,680 --> 00:18:50,879 Speaker 3: Republican voted for it. They say they're not trying to 281 00:18:50,960 --> 00:18:53,760 Speaker 3: take it, but we have them on tape in a 282 00:18:53,800 --> 00:18:57,480 Speaker 3: pro Publica article. They got a tape of the Right 283 00:18:57,560 --> 00:19:01,760 Speaker 3: to life folks in Tennessee legislator, and in that tape 284 00:19:01,800 --> 00:19:06,240 Speaker 3: they said, let it die down about Dobbs and then 285 00:19:06,840 --> 00:19:10,959 Speaker 3: we'll start talking about contraception, and if we don't need 286 00:19:11,000 --> 00:19:14,320 Speaker 3: to do that right now. So we've already heard them 287 00:19:14,680 --> 00:19:18,639 Speaker 3: in private saying that they were coming after it. So 288 00:19:18,920 --> 00:19:20,760 Speaker 3: they can lie all they want, but I'm going to 289 00:19:20,840 --> 00:19:23,680 Speaker 3: call them out on their lives. Marcia Blackburn has told 290 00:19:23,720 --> 00:19:27,399 Speaker 3: the same lot. She voted against contraception and IVF in 291 00:19:27,440 --> 00:19:30,439 Speaker 3: the Senate and said, oh, nobody's coming for it. But 292 00:19:30,480 --> 00:19:34,480 Speaker 3: then you've got her on tape questioning Griswolk. So which 293 00:19:34,520 --> 00:19:34,760 Speaker 3: is it? 294 00:19:34,840 --> 00:19:40,119 Speaker 1: Marcia dreamism is well documented? How do you think about 295 00:19:40,160 --> 00:19:45,119 Speaker 1: these national security issues where she has adopted a position 296 00:19:45,280 --> 00:19:50,920 Speaker 1: that is contrary to everybody before now that has represented 297 00:19:51,000 --> 00:19:54,200 Speaker 1: Tennessee in the United States Senate. They'd all be appalled. 298 00:19:54,280 --> 00:19:57,560 Speaker 1: Fred Thompson, who I knew well, would be appalled. Lamar 299 00:19:57,680 --> 00:20:03,400 Speaker 1: Alexander is on the other side of these issues. Vice 300 00:20:03,480 --> 00:20:11,200 Speaker 1: President Gore is a generator, Howard Baker. And so I 301 00:20:11,240 --> 00:20:15,879 Speaker 1: think about when I whenever I see you know, anybody 302 00:20:15,920 --> 00:20:18,639 Speaker 1: who remembers the nineteen eighties, right. 303 00:20:18,560 --> 00:20:20,720 Speaker 2: This is this is the most astonishing thing. 304 00:20:21,160 --> 00:20:28,080 Speaker 1: Howard Baker was obviously a legendary Tennessee senator, statesman, chief 305 00:20:28,080 --> 00:20:34,000 Speaker 1: of staff to President Reagan, and they're negotiating the end 306 00:20:34,080 --> 00:20:41,280 Speaker 1: of the Cold War. Ronald Reagan very tough on the Russians, 307 00:20:41,480 --> 00:20:46,360 Speaker 1: and Marshall Blackburn, when you look at the world, has 308 00:20:46,400 --> 00:20:53,840 Speaker 1: seemed to embrace this philosophy of Trumpian appeasement and isolation. 309 00:20:55,280 --> 00:20:58,639 Speaker 1: And I don't know how you think about it, but 310 00:20:58,680 --> 00:21:01,840 Speaker 1: I want to give you a chance to talk about 311 00:21:01,880 --> 00:21:05,760 Speaker 1: her on these views, these issues in a in a 312 00:21:05,880 --> 00:21:10,800 Speaker 1: very dangerous, dangerous world. But I'll just say before before 313 00:21:10,800 --> 00:21:13,280 Speaker 1: I turn it over to you, I mean this is 314 00:21:13,440 --> 00:21:18,119 Speaker 1: this is a person who doesn't know what she's talking about, 315 00:21:18,280 --> 00:21:23,320 Speaker 1: isn't confident about the issues in the world. And when 316 00:21:23,359 --> 00:21:25,520 Speaker 1: you see the things that come out of her mouth, 317 00:21:25,800 --> 00:21:30,920 Speaker 1: I think it's really demonstrative of how cooned and bubbled 318 00:21:30,920 --> 00:21:38,320 Speaker 1: this club is. Because any person who's anywhere for as 319 00:21:38,359 --> 00:21:41,160 Speaker 1: long as she's been there. Now, right, we can train 320 00:21:41,240 --> 00:21:44,760 Speaker 1: you to be a brain surgeon in six years from right, 321 00:21:45,320 --> 00:21:50,280 Speaker 1: you know, from never having cut into anything but an apple, right, 322 00:21:51,040 --> 00:21:54,360 Speaker 1: you would think you would pick up some of this stuff. 323 00:21:55,240 --> 00:22:00,000 Speaker 1: But she seems immunized to knowledge about how the world 324 00:22:00,040 --> 00:22:03,359 Speaker 1: world works and its interconnectedness. 325 00:22:04,080 --> 00:22:07,360 Speaker 2: And it's silly. And I don't mean. 326 00:22:07,240 --> 00:22:11,120 Speaker 1: This in a chauvinistic way, but I say this as 327 00:22:11,119 --> 00:22:15,520 Speaker 1: someone who's lived in California for decades and somebody who 328 00:22:15,560 --> 00:22:19,359 Speaker 1: grew up on the East coast. Everybody on the coast. 329 00:22:19,400 --> 00:22:21,720 Speaker 1: Tennessee is a mega state with some of the best 330 00:22:21,840 --> 00:22:29,119 Speaker 1: universities in the country, big thriving cities, Nashville's and American megacity. 331 00:22:29,640 --> 00:22:33,840 Speaker 1: This is a giant economy in the world, in the 332 00:22:34,320 --> 00:22:38,439 Speaker 1: in the in the country, and this is a backwards, 333 00:22:39,000 --> 00:22:44,080 Speaker 1: ignorant know nothing. Who's the United States senator that you're 334 00:22:44,359 --> 00:22:47,399 Speaker 1: that you're challenging. And I'd just like you to talk 335 00:22:47,440 --> 00:22:50,560 Speaker 1: about her from the prism of wow, you know, this 336 00:22:50,680 --> 00:22:53,240 Speaker 1: is one of one hundred people in the world making 337 00:22:53,320 --> 00:22:58,000 Speaker 1: life and death votes and decisions about our national security. 338 00:22:58,040 --> 00:23:02,920 Speaker 1: And how far afield she has gone from the tradition 339 00:23:03,720 --> 00:23:08,000 Speaker 1: of moderation in Tennessee and the tradition of common sense 340 00:23:08,040 --> 00:23:08,760 Speaker 1: in Tennessee. 341 00:23:09,320 --> 00:23:13,920 Speaker 3: Oh absolutely, she's just nowhere close to where the average 342 00:23:13,960 --> 00:23:18,359 Speaker 3: Tennessee and is because I mean, she has been in 343 00:23:18,480 --> 00:23:21,240 Speaker 3: DC for twenty one years, and like you say, hasn't 344 00:23:21,320 --> 00:23:24,680 Speaker 3: learned a thing. That's one of one thing I hear 345 00:23:24,720 --> 00:23:27,760 Speaker 3: a lot from the Republicans. She's been there twenty one years, 346 00:23:27,800 --> 00:23:30,720 Speaker 3: has the same talking points and hasn't done a thing. 347 00:23:31,400 --> 00:23:35,560 Speaker 3: And she doesn't talk to the people either. She hasn't 348 00:23:35,600 --> 00:23:38,000 Speaker 3: had a town hall in seven and a half years. 349 00:23:38,720 --> 00:23:42,320 Speaker 3: The last one she had was pretty disastrous. And so 350 00:23:42,920 --> 00:23:46,160 Speaker 3: this on this tour, I'm going to all ninety five counties. 351 00:23:46,840 --> 00:23:50,840 Speaker 3: My tour dates are posted on my website. Anyone who 352 00:23:50,840 --> 00:23:53,600 Speaker 3: wants to show up can show up and ask questions 353 00:23:53,600 --> 00:23:57,960 Speaker 3: and talk with us. And she's had only closed door 354 00:23:58,040 --> 00:24:01,640 Speaker 3: meetings with county officials that I have heard of. There 355 00:24:01,760 --> 00:24:05,720 Speaker 3: was one event she was supposed to do a couple 356 00:24:05,800 --> 00:24:11,240 Speaker 3: of weeks ago that was publicized with Republicans at a 357 00:24:11,320 --> 00:24:14,880 Speaker 3: VFW hall, and she didn't show up for that. That's 358 00:24:14,920 --> 00:24:17,600 Speaker 3: the only one I know that was actually out published 359 00:24:17,640 --> 00:24:21,760 Speaker 3: at all where people could come, and she didn't show up, 360 00:24:21,800 --> 00:24:25,720 Speaker 3: and they said she had struck throat. So I don't 361 00:24:25,720 --> 00:24:27,879 Speaker 3: know where she is. I don't know what she's doing, 362 00:24:27,920 --> 00:24:31,240 Speaker 3: but she's not talking to the people. And yesterday I 363 00:24:31,320 --> 00:24:36,399 Speaker 3: was in four different counties. I started. I started in 364 00:24:36,480 --> 00:24:39,000 Speaker 3: Overton County, then I went to White County, and then 365 00:24:39,200 --> 00:24:42,840 Speaker 3: Cannon County and then Rutherford County and talked well over 366 00:24:43,000 --> 00:24:48,520 Speaker 3: one hundred people yesterday in all of those counties about 367 00:24:48,560 --> 00:24:50,840 Speaker 3: the things that concern them and about the things that 368 00:24:50,880 --> 00:24:54,560 Speaker 3: they care about. And she just hasn't been seen, Like 369 00:24:54,600 --> 00:24:57,760 Speaker 3: you say, she's in a bubble. I find out with 370 00:24:57,800 --> 00:25:02,119 Speaker 3: my colleagues in my Republican college in the legislature, I 371 00:25:02,160 --> 00:25:05,120 Speaker 3: think they go to Republican meetings and church and that's it. 372 00:25:05,880 --> 00:25:08,320 Speaker 3: In my whole day, I talked to Republicans all day long. 373 00:25:08,320 --> 00:25:10,679 Speaker 3: Because I live in East Tennessee. If I'm talking to 374 00:25:10,720 --> 00:25:14,360 Speaker 3: my family or if I'm talking to folks in East Tennessee, 375 00:25:14,520 --> 00:25:17,280 Speaker 3: I'm spending a lot of my time talking to Republicans. 376 00:25:17,640 --> 00:25:21,560 Speaker 3: So I listen to people. I want to listen to 377 00:25:21,640 --> 00:25:24,120 Speaker 3: what people have to say. But here's the interesting thing. 378 00:25:24,600 --> 00:25:28,879 Speaker 3: They want to paint me as this extremist. But the 379 00:25:28,960 --> 00:25:33,080 Speaker 3: reality is, eighty percent of tennesseean's urban, rural, and suburban 380 00:25:33,600 --> 00:25:37,720 Speaker 3: want to do something about gun sense legislation. They want 381 00:25:37,800 --> 00:25:41,080 Speaker 3: universal background checks, they want safe storage laws, and they 382 00:25:41,080 --> 00:25:45,000 Speaker 3: want red flag laws. Eighty percent of Tennesseeans agree on 383 00:25:45,080 --> 00:25:48,760 Speaker 3: that you couldn't talk about guns in Tennessee, but now 384 00:25:48,920 --> 00:25:53,159 Speaker 3: you better talk about gun sense legislation. And then with 385 00:25:53,240 --> 00:25:56,879 Speaker 3: women with abortion, the same thing. Eighty percent of people 386 00:25:56,920 --> 00:26:01,680 Speaker 3: in Tennessee, urban, rural, suburban, all parties want abortion care 387 00:26:01,760 --> 00:26:04,600 Speaker 3: at some level. We don't all agree on where the 388 00:26:04,640 --> 00:26:08,960 Speaker 3: line may be, but eighty percent want that care at 389 00:26:09,000 --> 00:26:12,560 Speaker 3: some level. And she does not, and neither do the 390 00:26:12,600 --> 00:26:18,240 Speaker 3: supermajority in the state legislature. They are the extremists. Sixty 391 00:26:18,440 --> 00:26:22,480 Speaker 3: eighty one percent want cannabis medical cannabis. Sixty percent want 392 00:26:22,520 --> 00:26:27,400 Speaker 3: recreational cannabis. They won't even discuss it. Marcia Blackburn gets 393 00:26:27,440 --> 00:26:32,200 Speaker 3: more money from the NRA than I think anybody you know, 394 00:26:32,760 --> 00:26:35,159 Speaker 3: certainly from Tennessee, ever did, But she's one of the 395 00:26:35,200 --> 00:26:39,920 Speaker 3: top receivers of those dollars. She also voted against capping 396 00:26:40,000 --> 00:26:42,400 Speaker 3: insulin at thirty five dollars in the state with one 397 00:26:42,400 --> 00:26:46,119 Speaker 3: of the highest numbers of diabetics per capita. She voted 398 00:26:46,160 --> 00:26:51,880 Speaker 3: against negotiating drug prices for seniors. Tennesseeans have not expanded Medicaid. 399 00:26:52,240 --> 00:26:55,600 Speaker 3: People are struggling with their health care. She voted to 400 00:26:55,680 --> 00:27:00,439 Speaker 3: repeal the ACA multiple times. She is not she is 401 00:27:00,480 --> 00:27:04,959 Speaker 3: the extremists, She is not on board, and she is 402 00:27:05,040 --> 00:27:08,399 Speaker 3: not even trying, it seems, to get out and talk 403 00:27:08,840 --> 00:27:13,959 Speaker 3: to the regular folks that she's supposed to represent. She lies, consistently, 404 00:27:14,760 --> 00:27:21,280 Speaker 3: makes horrible, this de bigoted statements with no facts whatsoever 405 00:27:21,359 --> 00:27:23,480 Speaker 3: to back it up. Somebody said, Gloria, you need to 406 00:27:23,520 --> 00:27:25,679 Speaker 3: counter every one of our lives. I said, good grief, 407 00:27:25,720 --> 00:27:29,360 Speaker 3: we'd have to add three people to our staff. I mean, 408 00:27:29,400 --> 00:27:33,080 Speaker 3: it's remarkable. I talk to people. Old politicians lie. We 409 00:27:33,119 --> 00:27:38,640 Speaker 3: should not expect our expect politicians to lie, our elected 410 00:27:38,640 --> 00:27:41,159 Speaker 3: officials to lie. We should be held to a higher 411 00:27:41,240 --> 00:27:46,080 Speaker 3: standard of telling the truth, having integrity, and being transparent 412 00:27:46,640 --> 00:27:51,040 Speaker 3: about what we're doing. But in Tennessee men they want 413 00:27:51,080 --> 00:27:57,639 Speaker 3: to do everything behind closed doors. Well that's the question. 414 00:27:57,840 --> 00:28:03,520 Speaker 3: Our primary is August first, so we will see after 415 00:28:03,560 --> 00:28:07,240 Speaker 3: the primary if she is going to debate me, and 416 00:28:08,640 --> 00:28:11,560 Speaker 3: certainly we're going to be asking for debates. We will 417 00:28:11,680 --> 00:28:16,280 Speaker 3: drag her if she won't debate, because it just it 418 00:28:16,359 --> 00:28:19,880 Speaker 3: has to be done. She should be able to get 419 00:28:19,960 --> 00:28:23,679 Speaker 3: before the people and answer some tough questions. I'm ready 420 00:28:23,720 --> 00:28:26,360 Speaker 3: to do it. She's been there twenty one years. If 421 00:28:26,400 --> 00:28:31,040 Speaker 3: she can't answer these questions, she doesn't need to be there. 422 00:28:31,920 --> 00:28:34,000 Speaker 3: I say that all the time about the State House 423 00:28:34,040 --> 00:28:39,400 Speaker 3: where I serve, and when we had orientation, the leader 424 00:28:39,440 --> 00:28:42,800 Speaker 3: of the Republican Party actually told us, well, you can 425 00:28:42,920 --> 00:28:47,120 Speaker 3: use your badge to get into the secret hallways so 426 00:28:47,160 --> 00:28:50,200 Speaker 3: you don't have to talk to press and constituents who 427 00:28:50,240 --> 00:28:53,080 Speaker 3: are in the hallways if you don't want to. And 428 00:28:53,160 --> 00:28:56,080 Speaker 3: all I could think was, I'm not using some secret 429 00:28:56,120 --> 00:29:01,120 Speaker 3: hallway working around behind the scenes. I came there, I 430 00:29:01,200 --> 00:29:04,320 Speaker 3: was elected by the people. They need to know what 431 00:29:04,400 --> 00:29:07,479 Speaker 3: I'm doing. I need to talk about what I'm bringing, 432 00:29:07,520 --> 00:29:11,000 Speaker 3: the legislation I'm bringing, I need to answer questions about it, 433 00:29:11,680 --> 00:29:13,440 Speaker 3: And how are they going to know what I'm doing 434 00:29:13,480 --> 00:29:16,240 Speaker 3: if I refuse to talk to the press, or if 435 00:29:16,240 --> 00:29:20,240 Speaker 3: I refuse to talk to constituents. It's remarkable to me 436 00:29:21,080 --> 00:29:23,840 Speaker 3: that everything they want to do, they want to hide 437 00:29:23,880 --> 00:29:26,560 Speaker 3: from the press, and they want to hide from the people. 438 00:29:27,760 --> 00:29:30,080 Speaker 3: I guess if I had the policy and brought the 439 00:29:30,120 --> 00:29:33,000 Speaker 3: policy they did, I'd want to hide to But we 440 00:29:33,040 --> 00:29:37,200 Speaker 3: should expect our elected officials to be upfront, to answer 441 00:29:37,280 --> 00:29:40,200 Speaker 3: questions and be transparent about what they are doing. 442 00:29:40,600 --> 00:29:44,560 Speaker 1: Representative Johnson, have you ever used the secret passage? 443 00:29:44,640 --> 00:29:45,880 Speaker 2: I would use it all the time. 444 00:29:47,880 --> 00:29:50,360 Speaker 1: I would still talk to the people, but I would 445 00:29:50,440 --> 00:29:51,360 Speaker 1: use it all the time. 446 00:29:51,720 --> 00:29:55,840 Speaker 3: I've just shown it to people and I one time 447 00:29:55,920 --> 00:29:58,000 Speaker 3: there was a voucher vote and there was somebody back 448 00:29:58,040 --> 00:30:00,720 Speaker 3: in those hallways pulling the strings. I went back to 449 00:30:00,760 --> 00:30:02,720 Speaker 3: see who was full of the strengths. 450 00:30:04,560 --> 00:30:04,920 Speaker 2: I would. 451 00:30:04,960 --> 00:30:08,560 Speaker 1: I would do a hybrid approach. I would let me 452 00:30:08,920 --> 00:30:12,680 Speaker 1: let me ask you this question. So the Republican high 453 00:30:12,680 --> 00:30:16,560 Speaker 1: card right as far as an issue where they are 454 00:30:16,600 --> 00:30:21,400 Speaker 1: on the right side of majority opinion in the country 455 00:30:21,720 --> 00:30:25,560 Speaker 1: is on the question of the border, and I had 456 00:30:25,600 --> 00:30:31,600 Speaker 1: a I had a consistent position on this personally, going 457 00:30:31,640 --> 00:30:34,000 Speaker 1: back to the nineties, right, I was always a very 458 00:30:34,040 --> 00:30:40,480 Speaker 1: pro immigration Republican and the deal that I always supported 459 00:30:40,640 --> 00:30:46,240 Speaker 1: Bush McCain, the Kennedy compromise, you know, was that you 460 00:30:46,320 --> 00:30:50,280 Speaker 1: had a population in the country illegally. They were here 461 00:30:50,520 --> 00:30:55,479 Speaker 1: illegally because they were let in without much difficulty, and 462 00:30:55,520 --> 00:31:02,040 Speaker 1: everybody understood that the labor market required this workforce that 463 00:31:02,200 --> 00:31:07,200 Speaker 1: was there. People wanted the border secured, they didn't want 464 00:31:07,240 --> 00:31:09,440 Speaker 1: anyone punished, and. 465 00:31:09,560 --> 00:31:11,400 Speaker 2: They just couldn't get it done in Washington. 466 00:31:14,160 --> 00:31:20,200 Speaker 1: You have, whatever the number may be, the biggest issue 467 00:31:20,520 --> 00:31:26,240 Speaker 1: that the Republicans have to go at a Democrat in 468 00:31:26,320 --> 00:31:31,560 Speaker 1: a red state, right in terms of its most recent 469 00:31:31,720 --> 00:31:37,920 Speaker 1: dispositions electorally, is immigration. So what do you say about 470 00:31:38,080 --> 00:31:44,160 Speaker 1: immigration about the border, and do you recognize as a 471 00:31:44,200 --> 00:31:50,000 Speaker 1: Democrat how important honesty is as an issue. And I'll 472 00:31:50,000 --> 00:31:56,560 Speaker 1: give you two examples. When Senator Menandez is arrested gold 473 00:31:56,600 --> 00:32:01,160 Speaker 1: Barson in the jacket, Chuck Schumer responds, he's been a 474 00:32:01,200 --> 00:32:04,720 Speaker 1: great representative for the people in New Jersey, Right, you know, 475 00:32:04,960 --> 00:32:10,320 Speaker 1: say that it's a native New Jersey. And when when 476 00:32:10,520 --> 00:32:16,560 Speaker 1: Alexander Myorci says border's never been more secure, you understand, 477 00:32:16,800 --> 00:32:19,720 Speaker 1: Or you're a center on TV who was looking at 478 00:32:19,760 --> 00:32:22,560 Speaker 1: Biden the aftermath of debate, usually now he's the wisest 479 00:32:22,600 --> 00:32:27,000 Speaker 1: guy in the land. He's never looked better. That you 480 00:32:27,160 --> 00:32:34,480 Speaker 1: lose honesty as an issue to a side filled with 481 00:32:34,560 --> 00:32:39,120 Speaker 1: extreme fascists who run on an architecture of LIFs. How 482 00:32:39,320 --> 00:32:41,720 Speaker 1: how important that is? And I just I just wanted 483 00:32:41,720 --> 00:32:42,800 Speaker 1: to ask you about that. 484 00:32:43,280 --> 00:32:46,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, No, I think that I would I would not 485 00:32:46,080 --> 00:32:50,360 Speaker 3: feel the same development in this, you know. I think 486 00:32:50,440 --> 00:32:53,520 Speaker 3: that it doesn't matter when our guys break the law. 487 00:32:53,560 --> 00:32:55,840 Speaker 3: Their guys break the law. You've broken the law, and 488 00:32:56,200 --> 00:32:57,920 Speaker 3: that's the way it is. I think we do need 489 00:32:58,280 --> 00:33:01,400 Speaker 3: to definitely be honest about that. I think that that's 490 00:33:01,400 --> 00:33:04,160 Speaker 3: critically important, and to be honest about the fact that 491 00:33:05,080 --> 00:33:08,880 Speaker 3: we do have a serious situation at the border and 492 00:33:09,040 --> 00:33:11,040 Speaker 3: we do need to fix it. But the thing is 493 00:33:11,120 --> 00:33:11,600 Speaker 3: we can't. 494 00:33:12,480 --> 00:33:14,480 Speaker 2: And there, like you. 495 00:33:14,480 --> 00:33:17,200 Speaker 3: Talked about, there have been deals in the past, it 496 00:33:17,240 --> 00:33:21,040 Speaker 3: always breaks down, and right now we know that it's 497 00:33:21,040 --> 00:33:25,160 Speaker 3: broken down because they need to use it in this campaign. 498 00:33:26,040 --> 00:33:30,600 Speaker 3: I firmly believe that it is something that gens up 499 00:33:30,680 --> 00:33:35,440 Speaker 3: Tennessee Republicans, but we have to be honest about you know, 500 00:33:35,640 --> 00:33:38,680 Speaker 3: what's really happening. Do we need more security, yes, Have 501 00:33:38,720 --> 00:33:42,400 Speaker 3: we tried to put more security? Yes. I think that 502 00:33:42,480 --> 00:33:46,240 Speaker 3: the last bill that was offered had pretty much everything 503 00:33:46,280 --> 00:33:49,840 Speaker 3: in it the Republican wanted. They had a problem with 504 00:33:49,920 --> 00:33:54,080 Speaker 3: one piece of it, and they were misinterpreting that piece 505 00:33:54,720 --> 00:33:59,200 Speaker 3: as I understand it. But it seems like we can 506 00:34:00,360 --> 00:34:03,280 Speaker 3: at least get some measures going so we can get 507 00:34:03,280 --> 00:34:10,680 Speaker 3: the work started, having to pass the citizenship and also 508 00:34:10,920 --> 00:34:14,479 Speaker 3: making things more secure at the border. And I think 509 00:34:14,520 --> 00:34:18,319 Speaker 3: that there are enough people that should be able to 510 00:34:18,320 --> 00:34:20,520 Speaker 3: come to agreement. Sadly, it may not be you know, 511 00:34:20,680 --> 00:34:24,160 Speaker 3: or it will be after the election. But that's why 512 00:34:24,200 --> 00:34:27,600 Speaker 3: this election is so important. Let's get people in believe 513 00:34:27,719 --> 00:34:30,719 Speaker 3: who believe it actually doing the work and not just 514 00:34:30,880 --> 00:34:33,000 Speaker 3: keeping it out there as an issue to run for 515 00:34:33,120 --> 00:34:38,920 Speaker 3: office on. But we're supposed to be doing the work 516 00:34:38,920 --> 00:34:44,480 Speaker 3: of the people, and the people want solutions. But this idea, oh, 517 00:34:44,480 --> 00:34:48,000 Speaker 3: they're taking our jobs. It's just not true because there 518 00:34:48,040 --> 00:34:50,400 Speaker 3: are so many jobs out there, there are not enough people. 519 00:34:50,920 --> 00:34:53,360 Speaker 3: When on my ninety five County tour. I was just 520 00:34:53,440 --> 00:34:56,960 Speaker 3: in Granger County, Tennessee, and Granger County is famous for tomatoes. 521 00:34:57,719 --> 00:35:03,920 Speaker 3: And three year old immigrant came to my event and 522 00:35:04,280 --> 00:35:08,760 Speaker 3: I asked her what her day was like, and twenty 523 00:35:08,800 --> 00:35:12,200 Speaker 3: three year old young woman, she said, well, she has 524 00:35:12,239 --> 00:35:14,759 Speaker 3: to get her mother to work at the far more. 525 00:35:14,800 --> 00:35:17,440 Speaker 3: She works at six am and then she goes to 526 00:35:17,480 --> 00:35:20,399 Speaker 3: work and then she works until the sun goes down 527 00:35:20,400 --> 00:35:25,640 Speaker 3: at nine o'clock. And I thought, who in Granger County 528 00:35:26,080 --> 00:35:30,360 Speaker 3: wanted that job? You know, I don't think that most people, 529 00:35:31,080 --> 00:35:35,320 Speaker 3: most Americans, would take that job. And there are plenty 530 00:35:35,360 --> 00:35:38,360 Speaker 3: of those jobs to have if they wanted them. The 531 00:35:38,480 --> 00:35:42,080 Speaker 3: reality is folks are coming here, they're working really hard 532 00:35:43,520 --> 00:35:46,799 Speaker 3: at jobs that we desperately need. We don't need our 533 00:35:46,840 --> 00:35:50,799 Speaker 3: plants and our food to die on the vine. And 534 00:35:50,880 --> 00:35:53,600 Speaker 3: so we've got to create that path for folks who 535 00:35:53,640 --> 00:35:56,680 Speaker 3: come in here, come here and are doing everything right. 536 00:35:57,080 --> 00:35:59,600 Speaker 3: But we can also secure the border and do all 537 00:35:59,600 --> 00:36:04,120 Speaker 3: of those things. And that's the type of legislation we 538 00:36:04,200 --> 00:36:09,279 Speaker 3: need to see to solve this problem. But to dehumanize 539 00:36:09,760 --> 00:36:13,279 Speaker 3: and not respect the human dignity of these folks are 540 00:36:13,320 --> 00:36:16,360 Speaker 3: coming over here to improve their lives and work hard 541 00:36:16,719 --> 00:36:21,880 Speaker 3: and love this country, and we have to do better. 542 00:36:22,239 --> 00:36:24,480 Speaker 3: We have to do better for us and for them. 543 00:36:24,520 --> 00:36:28,160 Speaker 3: Because I live I think about growing up. I think 544 00:36:28,160 --> 00:36:31,320 Speaker 3: about even fifteen years ago, twenty years ago. In Tennessee, 545 00:36:31,920 --> 00:36:34,200 Speaker 3: we didn't ask where you came from, We didn't ask 546 00:36:34,239 --> 00:36:36,800 Speaker 3: how you worshiped it, we didn't ask who you loved. 547 00:36:37,680 --> 00:36:41,600 Speaker 3: We just pitched in with our community and helped everybody together, 548 00:36:42,000 --> 00:36:46,360 Speaker 3: working together. It didn't matter if you were different religion, 549 00:36:46,400 --> 00:36:48,839 Speaker 3: it didn't matter if you were a different race. I'm 550 00:36:48,880 --> 00:36:54,160 Speaker 3: not saying there has an in bigotry and racism. There 551 00:36:54,200 --> 00:36:58,359 Speaker 3: has been, but it's been. It was a shameful thing 552 00:36:58,400 --> 00:37:02,080 Speaker 3: to be, you know. But most people just work together 553 00:37:02,200 --> 00:37:06,160 Speaker 3: and didn't care if the fact that two women down 554 00:37:06,160 --> 00:37:10,319 Speaker 3: the street are married has absolutely nothing to do with 555 00:37:10,440 --> 00:37:13,920 Speaker 3: how your family is doing. If your family is struggling, 556 00:37:14,200 --> 00:37:16,880 Speaker 3: it's not because two women down the street are married. 557 00:37:17,160 --> 00:37:19,920 Speaker 3: Your family is struggling because you live an hour and 558 00:37:19,960 --> 00:37:22,960 Speaker 3: a half from a hospital, you don't have access to 559 00:37:23,040 --> 00:37:27,480 Speaker 3: affordable healthcare and affordable prescription drugs, you don't have a 560 00:37:27,520 --> 00:37:31,319 Speaker 3: well resourced classroom from child for your child, and you're 561 00:37:31,400 --> 00:37:34,040 Speaker 3: making minimum wage. In Tennessee, which is the federal bent 562 00:37:34,120 --> 00:37:37,319 Speaker 3: On wage, which is seven twenty five an hour. You're 563 00:37:37,360 --> 00:37:39,840 Speaker 3: working two and three jobs to try to keep food 564 00:37:39,880 --> 00:37:43,160 Speaker 3: on the table. Those folks don't have time to follow politics. 565 00:37:43,640 --> 00:37:45,799 Speaker 3: They're trying to stay alive. They're trying to keep the 566 00:37:45,920 --> 00:37:49,800 Speaker 3: lights on and food on the table. And Marsha Blackburn 567 00:37:49,880 --> 00:37:52,839 Speaker 3: doesn't believe in raising the wage. How do you make 568 00:37:53,280 --> 00:37:56,160 Speaker 3: seven dollars an hour or ten dollars an hour even 569 00:37:56,840 --> 00:38:00,799 Speaker 3: and paid chalk care fifteen dollars an hour hour? The 570 00:38:00,840 --> 00:38:05,880 Speaker 3: math does not work. They have no concern for regular families. 571 00:38:06,280 --> 00:38:12,160 Speaker 3: Marsha Blackburn works for lobbyists in corporations. We just finished 572 00:38:12,160 --> 00:38:15,279 Speaker 3: a quarter of fundraising. More than seventy percent of the 573 00:38:15,320 --> 00:38:18,880 Speaker 3: money I raised comes from Tennessee. Only forty percent of 574 00:38:18,920 --> 00:38:21,799 Speaker 3: the money she raises comes from Tennessee. Much of it 575 00:38:21,840 --> 00:38:27,040 Speaker 3: comes from Texas. Who does she represent? Tennessee Families need help, 576 00:38:27,719 --> 00:38:31,360 Speaker 3: They need someone working for them, not for lobbyists, not 577 00:38:31,480 --> 00:38:35,200 Speaker 3: for big Pharma in the NRA and big oil. That's 578 00:38:35,200 --> 00:38:36,239 Speaker 3: who she's working for. 579 00:38:36,719 --> 00:38:43,319 Speaker 1: I can't imagine that. People who spend forty years in 580 00:38:43,360 --> 00:38:46,520 Speaker 1: the United States Senate, and I've been around it as 581 00:38:46,560 --> 00:38:50,400 Speaker 1: an institution, right It's mind blowing. And you know, I 582 00:38:50,440 --> 00:38:52,399 Speaker 1: think about it, right, you know, if it was something 583 00:38:52,440 --> 00:38:54,520 Speaker 1: if I wound up in the US Senate, you think 584 00:38:54,520 --> 00:38:58,000 Speaker 1: about even three terms, right, eighteen years is a long time, right, 585 00:38:58,040 --> 00:39:03,120 Speaker 1: but like you know, twelve years whatever. As you point out, right, 586 00:39:03,160 --> 00:39:06,759 Speaker 1: she's been there for twenty years. She hasn't done the 587 00:39:06,800 --> 00:39:08,239 Speaker 1: town hall in seven and. 588 00:39:08,120 --> 00:39:11,360 Speaker 2: A half years. Why does she do this? Like do 589 00:39:11,400 --> 00:39:14,359 Speaker 2: you ever think about that? Like? What do I can 590 00:39:14,400 --> 00:39:18,360 Speaker 2: tell you that she makes? She makes one hundred sixty 591 00:39:18,440 --> 00:39:22,480 Speaker 2: seven thousand dollars a year. What a what a what 592 00:39:22,520 --> 00:39:23,640 Speaker 2: a senator makes? 593 00:39:23,719 --> 00:39:23,919 Speaker 4: Right? 594 00:39:24,040 --> 00:39:27,759 Speaker 2: She would she would make more as a lobbyist. It's 595 00:39:27,800 --> 00:39:32,640 Speaker 2: a what does she? What does she dig about this? 596 00:39:33,120 --> 00:39:34,359 Speaker 2: What's so great about it? 597 00:39:35,040 --> 00:39:38,839 Speaker 3: You know, I don't she I think you mentioned she's 598 00:39:38,880 --> 00:39:43,759 Speaker 3: an odd person. I mean, we were on we were 599 00:39:43,800 --> 00:39:46,520 Speaker 3: on the same airplane. I had already been seated, and 600 00:39:46,560 --> 00:39:48,600 Speaker 3: I saw this woman walking past, and I was like, 601 00:39:49,560 --> 00:39:51,440 Speaker 3: who is that. I was like, oh, my goodness, that 602 00:39:51,680 --> 00:39:55,480 Speaker 3: is Marsha. And so I thought, well, it's stupid for 603 00:39:55,600 --> 00:39:57,640 Speaker 3: us to be on the same plane and not to 604 00:39:57,719 --> 00:40:01,719 Speaker 3: say hello or anything like that. So as we were 605 00:40:03,080 --> 00:40:06,680 Speaker 3: getting off the plane, I waited at the top of 606 00:40:06,680 --> 00:40:11,399 Speaker 3: the jetway, and you know, she came up and I said, high, 607 00:40:11,440 --> 00:40:14,200 Speaker 3: Senator Blackbird. I just wanted we're running against each other. 608 00:40:15,520 --> 00:40:18,720 Speaker 3: Just wanted to said my name, I said, just wanted 609 00:40:18,760 --> 00:40:20,440 Speaker 3: to say hello. It would be silly for us not 610 00:40:20,560 --> 00:40:22,880 Speaker 3: to say hello when we're sitting on the same plane. 611 00:40:23,120 --> 00:40:27,960 Speaker 3: And she just dared at me and just like, and 612 00:40:28,000 --> 00:40:31,120 Speaker 3: I mean, how do you just not say hello? But 613 00:40:31,200 --> 00:40:33,239 Speaker 3: it was as if she had no idea what to do. 614 00:40:34,719 --> 00:40:38,000 Speaker 3: And I'm thinking, you're a US senator, you meet constituents 615 00:40:38,040 --> 00:40:41,560 Speaker 3: all the time. Technically I'm a constituent of hers, and 616 00:40:42,160 --> 00:40:45,080 Speaker 3: she couldn't even say hello, and then she felt so awkward. 617 00:40:45,400 --> 00:40:48,960 Speaker 3: I tried to make light of the situation, and I said, hey, 618 00:40:48,960 --> 00:40:51,399 Speaker 3: why don't we take a picture together and we can 619 00:40:51,480 --> 00:40:54,320 Speaker 3: both both post look who I met on the plane. 620 00:40:55,000 --> 00:40:58,680 Speaker 3: And then she looked at me and she said, oh, 621 00:40:58,719 --> 00:41:01,680 Speaker 3: I can't do that, and start walking away. 622 00:41:02,719 --> 00:41:07,839 Speaker 4: It was just the strangest interaction, you know, and I 623 00:41:07,920 --> 00:41:10,320 Speaker 4: just don't I don't know how you couldn't just stop 624 00:41:10,360 --> 00:41:14,040 Speaker 4: and say hello and make you know, pleasantryce with somebody. 625 00:41:16,000 --> 00:41:16,800 Speaker 3: It was weird to me. 626 00:41:17,320 --> 00:41:20,840 Speaker 1: The answer to that question, I can answer this question, 627 00:41:22,000 --> 00:41:25,400 Speaker 1: answer the why now that I have that information, is 628 00:41:25,440 --> 00:41:27,920 Speaker 1: that people would come up to me during like the 629 00:41:27,920 --> 00:41:31,720 Speaker 1: peak of House of Cards, and a friend of mine, 630 00:41:31,920 --> 00:41:36,279 Speaker 1: Guyam J. Carson, was like really involved and conceiving of 631 00:41:36,320 --> 00:41:39,960 Speaker 1: the show and you know, helping make it realistic. But 632 00:41:40,000 --> 00:41:43,760 Speaker 1: people would be like, is all this like House of Cards? 633 00:41:44,440 --> 00:41:47,080 Speaker 1: And I'd be like, no, it's like Veep. 634 00:41:50,000 --> 00:41:53,920 Speaker 2: It's like Veep. Right, National politics is. 635 00:41:53,920 --> 00:41:57,680 Speaker 1: Like a giant deep episode, right if you detach and 636 00:41:57,920 --> 00:42:00,200 Speaker 1: sit back and watch it. And she's like a us, 637 00:42:00,239 --> 00:42:06,640 Speaker 1: like a character Inveep, you know, cloistered voting against the 638 00:42:06,680 --> 00:42:10,399 Speaker 1: interests of the state, which is a gigantic state. And 639 00:42:10,640 --> 00:42:13,120 Speaker 1: let me just say again, right for people who haven't 640 00:42:13,160 --> 00:42:16,319 Speaker 1: spent time in Tennessee that will watch this, uh, you 641 00:42:16,320 --> 00:42:20,280 Speaker 1: know from around the around the country. Big distance between 642 00:42:20,360 --> 00:42:26,279 Speaker 1: Knoxville where you're from, and the Mississippi River and Memphis, 643 00:42:26,320 --> 00:42:30,080 Speaker 1: and so you need to tie a ribbon right across 644 00:42:30,160 --> 00:42:34,080 Speaker 1: the state to a different part of the state. About 645 00:42:34,239 --> 00:42:37,759 Speaker 1: about these ideas, Why do you talk about that? Just 646 00:42:38,040 --> 00:42:42,560 Speaker 1: what it's like to campaign? What is your day? Like 647 00:42:43,719 --> 00:42:46,920 Speaker 1: how many hours a day are they torturing you with 648 00:42:47,280 --> 00:42:51,080 Speaker 1: fundraising calls? That will increase you know, if you become 649 00:42:51,120 --> 00:42:56,200 Speaker 1: the nominee here of course, and what is that? 650 00:42:56,320 --> 00:42:57,759 Speaker 2: What is that day like? 651 00:42:57,960 --> 00:43:02,080 Speaker 1: Getting around, doing the doing of things you need to do. 652 00:43:02,800 --> 00:43:06,239 Speaker 1: And as you as you look at this from a 653 00:43:06,360 --> 00:43:09,880 Speaker 1: forward basis, you know, if you're the nominee and you 654 00:43:10,000 --> 00:43:12,959 Speaker 1: have you know about you know, let's you know, three 655 00:43:13,000 --> 00:43:15,920 Speaker 1: months or so, you know, in real time to to 656 00:43:16,000 --> 00:43:19,600 Speaker 1: run the campaign about her, just talk about how you're 657 00:43:19,600 --> 00:43:22,320 Speaker 1: gonna how you're gonna build on what you've been doing 658 00:43:22,520 --> 00:43:25,200 Speaker 1: in order to bring that, in order to bring that home, 659 00:43:25,640 --> 00:43:31,319 Speaker 1: how to embrace the underdog, you know, status capitalize it 660 00:43:31,560 --> 00:43:35,560 Speaker 1: against somebody who's been there too long, who's become too 661 00:43:35,680 --> 00:43:40,720 Speaker 1: strange by their time and power, that you know, lives 662 00:43:40,800 --> 00:43:44,600 Speaker 1: like they're a character in the Hunger Games. Often panem 663 00:43:44,640 --> 00:43:49,040 Speaker 1: completely walled off from the from the regular people. And 664 00:43:49,800 --> 00:43:52,640 Speaker 1: you know, I I just think that that's such a 665 00:43:52,800 --> 00:43:58,400 Speaker 1: huge part of this is her aloofness from reality, from normalcy, 666 00:43:59,440 --> 00:44:04,480 Speaker 1: from unity, as she lives in this terrarium, you know, 667 00:44:04,719 --> 00:44:05,960 Speaker 1: under the capitol though. 668 00:44:06,280 --> 00:44:09,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, you know absolutely, And it's gonna make a difference 669 00:44:09,880 --> 00:44:12,439 Speaker 3: because what people know about me is I get out 670 00:44:12,480 --> 00:44:16,680 Speaker 3: and talk to folks. I've flipped red districts multiple times, 671 00:44:16,800 --> 00:44:19,960 Speaker 3: because I'm not afraid to talk to people and talk 672 00:44:20,000 --> 00:44:22,840 Speaker 3: to people across the AIP. I have talked to so 673 00:44:22,920 --> 00:44:25,839 Speaker 3: many people in this trail who wanted to see her 674 00:44:25,920 --> 00:44:28,640 Speaker 3: were in DC, but she wouldn't see them because of 675 00:44:29,280 --> 00:44:32,839 Speaker 3: whatever their belief if it was Mom's demand action or 676 00:44:33,280 --> 00:44:36,080 Speaker 3: some of these folks that she just refused to see. 677 00:44:36,760 --> 00:44:39,960 Speaker 3: And I don't do that in my office in Nashville. 678 00:44:40,080 --> 00:44:42,960 Speaker 3: I don't refuse anyone if we can't sit down and 679 00:44:43,000 --> 00:44:46,160 Speaker 3: have a conversation and disagree, and I can tell you 680 00:44:46,239 --> 00:44:49,480 Speaker 3: what my position is and I can listen to your position. 681 00:44:49,960 --> 00:44:52,880 Speaker 3: I mean, I think that's what it's about. And people, 682 00:44:53,040 --> 00:44:55,480 Speaker 3: certainly the people in my district in Knox will know 683 00:44:55,560 --> 00:44:57,520 Speaker 3: that's who I am. I have people all the time 684 00:44:57,560 --> 00:45:00,560 Speaker 3: tell me, Gloria, we don't agree on much, but I 685 00:45:00,680 --> 00:45:02,960 Speaker 3: do trust you and I know that you will listen 686 00:45:03,000 --> 00:45:07,200 Speaker 3: to me, and so that goes a long way. But 687 00:45:07,320 --> 00:45:11,400 Speaker 3: she has no revertoire like that with the people. And 688 00:45:11,440 --> 00:45:15,480 Speaker 3: so my day, you know, yesterday, it started at seven o'clock. 689 00:45:15,560 --> 00:45:17,960 Speaker 3: We had to be in Overton County, which is for 690 00:45:19,520 --> 00:45:21,960 Speaker 3: two hours from where I am, so we had to 691 00:45:22,120 --> 00:45:25,399 Speaker 3: we had to get up and be there by ten 692 00:45:25,440 --> 00:45:30,760 Speaker 3: o'clock and then we spent an hour and fifteen minutes, 693 00:45:30,840 --> 00:45:33,480 Speaker 3: hour and a half with those folks. Then we drove 694 00:45:33,560 --> 00:45:37,520 Speaker 3: forty minutes to the next county and spent an hour 695 00:45:37,600 --> 00:45:40,080 Speaker 3: to hour and a half with those folks, talking to them, 696 00:45:40,280 --> 00:45:43,239 Speaker 3: asking questions, finding out what, you know, what were the 697 00:45:43,239 --> 00:45:46,400 Speaker 3: biggest issues in their community that they felt like. And 698 00:45:46,440 --> 00:45:49,239 Speaker 3: then I got in the car, drove another hour to 699 00:45:49,640 --> 00:45:53,520 Speaker 3: our next stop in Cannon County and met with folks 700 00:45:53,560 --> 00:45:59,120 Speaker 3: there and did the same thing. Talked again about everything 701 00:45:59,160 --> 00:46:03,000 Speaker 3: in their particular were community, what they saw. And then 702 00:46:03,040 --> 00:46:06,320 Speaker 3: of course our last stop was at five point thirty 703 00:46:06,480 --> 00:46:11,080 Speaker 3: last night in Rutherford County and spend an hour and 704 00:46:11,120 --> 00:46:13,560 Speaker 3: a half there talking to folks, and it was really great. 705 00:46:13,600 --> 00:46:16,360 Speaker 3: There were so many young people there and one of 706 00:46:16,360 --> 00:46:19,719 Speaker 3: the fascinating things that I find as young people. Most 707 00:46:19,760 --> 00:46:22,839 Speaker 3: of these meetings are very often senior citizens, but we've 708 00:46:22,840 --> 00:46:25,400 Speaker 3: got a lot of young people showing up as well, 709 00:46:26,040 --> 00:46:30,360 Speaker 3: and the young people are engaged, they're paying attention, and 710 00:46:30,640 --> 00:46:33,840 Speaker 3: so I love it when they come. And people always 711 00:46:33,840 --> 00:46:38,520 Speaker 3: get excited when the young folks are there. But they're 712 00:46:38,600 --> 00:46:43,520 Speaker 3: excited about this race, and I'm seeing more excitement about 713 00:46:43,680 --> 00:46:46,680 Speaker 3: this race than I have seen across the state of 714 00:46:46,680 --> 00:46:50,319 Speaker 3: Tennessee in a long time. I go around. I'm not 715 00:46:50,640 --> 00:46:54,080 Speaker 3: new to visiting counties across the state. It's five and 716 00:46:54,120 --> 00:46:57,760 Speaker 3: a half hours to Memphis from Knoxville, and it's three 717 00:46:57,840 --> 00:46:59,759 Speaker 3: hours or two and a half hours up to Upper 718 00:46:59,800 --> 00:47:02,960 Speaker 3: each corner, so eight hours or you know, eight or 719 00:47:03,040 --> 00:47:06,000 Speaker 3: nine hours across the whole state. And we've been traveling 720 00:47:06,040 --> 00:47:10,760 Speaker 3: the whole thing. But really it's about listening to people 721 00:47:11,480 --> 00:47:15,759 Speaker 3: and trying to to educate them on some of the 722 00:47:15,800 --> 00:47:20,600 Speaker 3: issues that they don't quite completely understand. Legislation that's been 723 00:47:20,680 --> 00:47:24,319 Speaker 3: passed that that they rarely get to hear about. They 724 00:47:24,440 --> 00:47:27,520 Speaker 3: pass bills so quickly here in the Tennessee State legislature. 725 00:47:28,600 --> 00:47:31,440 Speaker 3: No one knows about them until it affects them. And 726 00:47:31,520 --> 00:47:34,200 Speaker 3: they don't want to debate these bills. They've they've almost 727 00:47:34,239 --> 00:47:38,880 Speaker 3: gotten rid of debate on legislation. I guess it's because 728 00:47:38,920 --> 00:47:43,520 Speaker 3: they are ashamed to really hash out their ideas because 729 00:47:43,560 --> 00:47:47,200 Speaker 3: they're not. It's mostly hate legislation and it doesn't help 730 00:47:47,320 --> 00:47:52,640 Speaker 3: regular families. But you know, Marcia is not getting this 731 00:47:52,840 --> 00:47:55,640 Speaker 3: experience and talking to this people that she thinks she 732 00:47:55,680 --> 00:47:58,759 Speaker 3: can show up with an arb Besider name and win 733 00:47:58,800 --> 00:48:01,239 Speaker 3: this election. And it's not going to be like that 734 00:48:01,440 --> 00:48:06,799 Speaker 3: this year because people are not happy with what she 735 00:48:06,960 --> 00:48:10,480 Speaker 3: is doing and they're paying more attention than ever. And 736 00:48:10,560 --> 00:48:13,480 Speaker 3: so I'm making sure that I'm talking to as many 737 00:48:13,520 --> 00:48:17,680 Speaker 3: people as possible, listening to as many people as possible, 738 00:48:17,719 --> 00:48:21,319 Speaker 3: and I won't ever stop doing that. Every year i 739 00:48:21,360 --> 00:48:25,080 Speaker 3: am in DC, I will continue to visit every county. 740 00:48:25,760 --> 00:48:30,239 Speaker 3: I can't tell you how appreciative people are when they say, 741 00:48:30,280 --> 00:48:33,680 Speaker 3: thank you so much for coming to our county. Nobody's 742 00:48:33,719 --> 00:48:37,400 Speaker 3: been to our county in years. No one has done 743 00:48:37,600 --> 00:48:41,040 Speaker 3: a nine five, a true ninety five county tour that's 744 00:48:41,200 --> 00:48:46,800 Speaker 3: posted that anyone can come to. And it's sad because 745 00:48:46,880 --> 00:48:50,960 Speaker 3: these rural counties have needs and everybody when they're running 746 00:48:50,960 --> 00:48:53,440 Speaker 3: for office, oh, we're going to help the rural counties, 747 00:48:53,920 --> 00:48:56,680 Speaker 3: but they never do. And if you don't know the 748 00:48:56,719 --> 00:49:00,279 Speaker 3: faces and you don't have conversations with those people, you 749 00:49:00,320 --> 00:49:03,560 Speaker 3: know what they need. She doesn't get to tell people 750 00:49:03,800 --> 00:49:08,240 Speaker 3: what they need. She doesn't get to listen to lobbyists 751 00:49:08,280 --> 00:49:13,279 Speaker 3: and corporations that fund her campaign, and she doesn't learn 752 00:49:13,360 --> 00:49:18,239 Speaker 3: from them. But the Tennessee, hard working Tennessee families in 753 00:49:18,280 --> 00:49:23,239 Speaker 3: her district need. She has no idea. She hasn't had 754 00:49:23,239 --> 00:49:26,719 Speaker 3: to struggle to make a light bill, she hasn't had 755 00:49:26,760 --> 00:49:30,120 Speaker 3: to struggle to put food on the table. And if 756 00:49:30,200 --> 00:49:34,120 Speaker 3: you don't listen to folks, how do you even understand 757 00:49:34,200 --> 00:49:37,359 Speaker 3: that I've struggled to pay a light build. I mean, 758 00:49:37,600 --> 00:49:40,319 Speaker 3: that's just a fact, and I'm not ashamed of that. 759 00:49:41,680 --> 00:49:45,680 Speaker 3: I am in the same category as far as you know, 760 00:49:45,800 --> 00:49:50,520 Speaker 3: earning as the majority of Tennesseeans. She's far and above 761 00:49:50,880 --> 00:49:54,879 Speaker 3: that and doesn't understand how the majority of Tennesseeans live. 762 00:49:55,440 --> 00:49:57,440 Speaker 3: You know, in all these politicians, well I'm going to 763 00:49:57,480 --> 00:49:59,719 Speaker 3: cut taxes, Well, what they need to ask her is 764 00:49:59,760 --> 00:50:03,400 Speaker 3: who whose taxes are you going to cut? Marsha, Because 765 00:50:03,440 --> 00:50:07,320 Speaker 3: she's gonna cut taxes for the wealthy incorporations. It's exactly 766 00:50:07,360 --> 00:50:09,520 Speaker 3: what they're doing here, and we've seen her do it there. 767 00:50:10,239 --> 00:50:17,040 Speaker 3: Nobody's helping hard working families with their taxes. Democrats want 768 00:50:17,080 --> 00:50:22,279 Speaker 3: to do that, and people need to understand that, need 769 00:50:22,280 --> 00:50:26,440 Speaker 3: to understand that raising the wage and giving people access 770 00:50:26,480 --> 00:50:29,960 Speaker 3: to health care lifts up your state, lifts up your economy. 771 00:50:30,960 --> 00:50:36,320 Speaker 3: And if you don't understand simple economics, you can't help 772 00:50:36,400 --> 00:50:39,160 Speaker 3: the people that need it the most, and we have 773 00:50:39,239 --> 00:50:42,640 Speaker 3: a lot of vulnerable people in Tennessee. She wants to 774 00:50:42,680 --> 00:50:46,400 Speaker 3: get rid of the federal Department of Education. What are 775 00:50:46,440 --> 00:50:50,640 Speaker 3: they fund in Tennessee. They fund free and reduced lunches 776 00:50:51,200 --> 00:50:54,120 Speaker 3: for so many children in Tennessee that go to bed Hungary. 777 00:50:54,960 --> 00:50:58,200 Speaker 3: They fund special education. I taught special ed for twenty 778 00:50:58,239 --> 00:51:03,839 Speaker 3: seven years. My students, because of federal programs, got the 779 00:51:03,880 --> 00:51:07,759 Speaker 3: services they needed. My special ed students, I had a 780 00:51:07,840 --> 00:51:12,040 Speaker 3: higher graduation. Ninety five percent of my special ed students 781 00:51:12,200 --> 00:51:15,319 Speaker 3: graduated because they got the services they need. That's a 782 00:51:15,400 --> 00:51:19,200 Speaker 3: higher graduation rate than the whole high school with regular kids. 783 00:51:19,400 --> 00:51:22,160 Speaker 3: And so when we provide these services for kids, they 784 00:51:22,200 --> 00:51:24,640 Speaker 3: get what they need. I had kids going to college 785 00:51:25,080 --> 00:51:27,880 Speaker 3: going straight into careers because we did work study their 786 00:51:27,960 --> 00:51:33,720 Speaker 3: last semester. And you can't say that about the entire school. 787 00:51:34,360 --> 00:51:37,160 Speaker 3: So and then that money also, the third pot of 788 00:51:37,200 --> 00:51:41,320 Speaker 3: that money goes to fund Title I, which is making 789 00:51:41,360 --> 00:51:45,439 Speaker 3: sure we have equity in our under resource schools, to 790 00:51:45,480 --> 00:51:50,359 Speaker 3: make sure that those under resource schools have the resources 791 00:51:50,400 --> 00:51:53,000 Speaker 3: they need to have a well resourced classroom, to have 792 00:51:53,080 --> 00:51:56,680 Speaker 3: more social workers because they need more of those services. 793 00:51:57,360 --> 00:52:00,080 Speaker 3: That's what those federal dollars do, and she wants to 794 00:52:00,120 --> 00:52:03,560 Speaker 3: shut it down. The Speaker of our House, Cameron Sexton, 795 00:52:03,719 --> 00:52:08,360 Speaker 3: in Tennessee, wanted to refuse the federal funding. It basically 796 00:52:08,440 --> 00:52:10,600 Speaker 3: came down to, if you don't take the federal dollars, 797 00:52:10,640 --> 00:52:14,239 Speaker 3: you don't have to follow civil rights guidelines. This is 798 00:52:14,239 --> 00:52:19,440 Speaker 3: who they are. It's it is remarkable they do not 799 00:52:19,680 --> 00:52:22,120 Speaker 3: care about the average family in Tennessee. 800 00:52:22,520 --> 00:52:25,880 Speaker 1: I had a visit to Washington a couple months back, 801 00:52:26,200 --> 00:52:29,400 Speaker 1: and I was at this premiere and I sat next 802 00:52:29,400 --> 00:52:33,719 Speaker 1: to a Democratic congressman and he was sitting next to 803 00:52:33,760 --> 00:52:35,360 Speaker 1: another Democratic congressman. 804 00:52:35,440 --> 00:52:36,479 Speaker 2: I was like, how you doing. 805 00:52:37,600 --> 00:52:39,239 Speaker 1: He was like, good he is, but you know he 806 00:52:39,320 --> 00:52:42,520 Speaker 1: is I'm much better than than than his colleague. And 807 00:52:43,160 --> 00:52:46,719 Speaker 1: he is this guy, this impressive guy he is, you know, 808 00:52:47,520 --> 00:52:52,520 Speaker 1: Rhodes scholar, Harvard put himself through, came up from nothing. 809 00:52:52,840 --> 00:52:55,400 Speaker 2: He goes he's got the same job as Lauren Bobert. 810 00:52:55,600 --> 00:53:05,120 Speaker 1: And a few months ago I spent time with Keem 811 00:53:05,280 --> 00:53:10,120 Speaker 1: Jefferies and Tim Ryan, who was in the Congress for 812 00:53:10,200 --> 00:53:13,799 Speaker 1: twenty years. A lot of like in terms of just 813 00:53:14,000 --> 00:53:19,640 Speaker 1: absolutely unflappable, like the like like the Yoda, right you know, 814 00:53:19,840 --> 00:53:26,120 Speaker 1: like the Buddha calm temperaments. And I thought about myself right, 815 00:53:26,280 --> 00:53:30,120 Speaker 1: like in the house and the day that I broke 816 00:53:30,200 --> 00:53:32,080 Speaker 1: a board over like. 817 00:53:32,120 --> 00:53:33,279 Speaker 2: Mac Gates's head. 818 00:53:33,520 --> 00:53:38,120 Speaker 1: Right, It's not like the media would be that I'm 819 00:53:38,160 --> 00:53:41,839 Speaker 1: going to get a riven or something for restraining myself 820 00:53:42,480 --> 00:53:45,880 Speaker 1: for like eight hundred days, right until like I finally 821 00:53:45,960 --> 00:53:49,799 Speaker 1: did it. And the reason I asked the question is 822 00:53:49,880 --> 00:53:58,520 Speaker 1: you're subjecting yourself to a level of self abuse, right 823 00:53:58,600 --> 00:54:02,759 Speaker 1: by doing this, Right, That victory means, right, you're gonna 824 00:54:02,760 --> 00:54:08,080 Speaker 1: be like hanging out with Lindsey Graham and Ted Cruz, 825 00:54:08,320 --> 00:54:12,200 Speaker 1: that your colleagues will be some of the worst Americans 826 00:54:12,239 --> 00:54:15,240 Speaker 1: out of three hundred and thirty million people, right, which 827 00:54:15,280 --> 00:54:19,600 Speaker 1: is like really bad people who aren't currently incarcerated for 828 00:54:19,760 --> 00:54:25,600 Speaker 1: violent crimes, right, some of the wackiest, most hypocritical Americans. 829 00:54:25,760 --> 00:54:29,080 Speaker 1: Right that there are amongst all of us villainous characters, 830 00:54:29,200 --> 00:54:31,799 Speaker 1: some of them. And I just wonder, you know, you 831 00:54:31,840 --> 00:54:37,520 Speaker 1: seem like a perfectly normal person right about this on earth? 832 00:54:38,239 --> 00:54:41,279 Speaker 2: Why on earth would you want to do it to yourself? Right? 833 00:54:41,360 --> 00:54:42,640 Speaker 2: And then we'll leave it there. 834 00:54:42,880 --> 00:54:46,480 Speaker 1: But it's been a real, a real pleasure hosting you 835 00:54:46,600 --> 00:54:50,840 Speaker 1: Representative Gloria Johnson. We'll put up all your information to 836 00:54:50,920 --> 00:54:54,160 Speaker 1: get involved and be involved in your campaign. Real pleasure 837 00:54:54,200 --> 00:54:54,680 Speaker 1: hosting you. 838 00:54:55,400 --> 00:54:57,880 Speaker 3: Well, thank you. And I do have to say twenty 839 00:54:57,920 --> 00:55:03,680 Speaker 3: seven years teaching me most behavior disordered teenagers has prepared 840 00:55:03,719 --> 00:55:04,560 Speaker 3: me for this work. 841 00:55:06,000 --> 00:55:08,240 Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, I was just talking to my daughter. 842 00:55:08,320 --> 00:55:10,520 Speaker 1: We're on a long road trip, and we're talking about 843 00:55:10,560 --> 00:55:12,680 Speaker 1: the days when I was a kid. You know, there 844 00:55:12,680 --> 00:55:16,520 Speaker 1: were no seatbelts, no shoulder straps, right front seat, right 845 00:55:16,719 --> 00:55:20,040 Speaker 1: middle seat, laying down in the back. We were talking 846 00:55:20,080 --> 00:55:23,920 Speaker 1: about school, right, and we were talking about emotionally disturbed 847 00:55:24,600 --> 00:55:28,440 Speaker 1: right out of fashion today. But like the problem kid 848 00:55:28,760 --> 00:55:33,120 Speaker 1: of that era was called the emotionally disturbed kid, right 849 00:55:33,160 --> 00:55:35,239 Speaker 1: that you know, that would be the threat. You know, 850 00:55:35,320 --> 00:55:39,600 Speaker 1: if you misbehaved or go to the emotionally disturbed classroom, right, 851 00:55:39,600 --> 00:55:41,920 Speaker 1: it would hang over You'd be like, oh my goodness. 852 00:55:42,239 --> 00:55:48,600 Speaker 1: But that is America's epicenter of emotional disturbance, Right, is 853 00:55:48,680 --> 00:55:54,040 Speaker 1: the United States Senate Josh Holly right, frauds of such 854 00:55:54,160 --> 00:56:02,640 Speaker 1: epic titanic dimensions. Right, They're they're almost fictional characters. But 855 00:56:02,640 --> 00:56:04,959 Speaker 1: but but this is this way you'd be signing. 856 00:56:04,680 --> 00:56:07,239 Speaker 3: Up for well and it's it's it's pretty much what 857 00:56:07,320 --> 00:56:10,760 Speaker 3: I'm doing here, and and and the meanness is something. 858 00:56:10,840 --> 00:56:15,520 Speaker 3: You know, we have a seventy four Republicans and twenty 859 00:56:15,520 --> 00:56:20,600 Speaker 3: five Democrats, and uh in addition to being drunk with 860 00:56:20,719 --> 00:56:30,680 Speaker 3: power and authoritarians there, they're just mean their retaliatory. You know. 861 00:56:31,320 --> 00:56:34,920 Speaker 3: The first the first year that Cameron Sexton was up 862 00:56:34,960 --> 00:56:37,319 Speaker 3: for Speaker, I said, I refused to vote for him. 863 00:56:38,640 --> 00:56:41,800 Speaker 3: You know, I'm not voting for a Republican speaker. And 864 00:56:41,840 --> 00:56:45,960 Speaker 3: I'm certainly not voting for the Republican speaker who was 865 00:56:46,120 --> 00:56:50,879 Speaker 3: instrumental in stopping medicaid expansion in Tennessee, who also fought 866 00:56:51,239 --> 00:56:54,280 Speaker 3: tooth and nail to keep the bust of Nathan Bedford 867 00:56:54,320 --> 00:56:57,120 Speaker 3: forrest in a place of honor in our capital. Said 868 00:56:57,120 --> 00:56:58,000 Speaker 3: I'm not doing it. 869 00:56:58,600 --> 00:57:02,800 Speaker 2: And one founder of the ku Klux Klan yes. 870 00:57:02,920 --> 00:57:07,920 Speaker 3: And slaughtered three hundred folks who were surrendering at Fort Pillow. 871 00:57:08,760 --> 00:57:12,680 Speaker 3: So I was the only one out of ninety nine 872 00:57:12,920 --> 00:57:15,600 Speaker 3: to vote against him for speaker. And I was giving 873 00:57:15,880 --> 00:57:19,120 Speaker 3: given a closet for an office. And then not only 874 00:57:19,200 --> 00:57:21,560 Speaker 3: was I given a closet for an office, but across 875 00:57:21,560 --> 00:57:24,400 Speaker 3: the hall outside my door, I look outside my door 876 00:57:24,480 --> 00:57:28,080 Speaker 3: and I see the empty member office across the hall. 877 00:57:28,280 --> 00:57:31,240 Speaker 3: And that was intentional, and that was all all about 878 00:57:31,320 --> 00:57:35,200 Speaker 3: punishment and retaliation because I didn't step in line with 879 00:57:35,320 --> 00:57:38,960 Speaker 3: what they wanted. And guess what, I'm never going to 880 00:57:39,200 --> 00:57:42,040 Speaker 3: unless what they want is right, and most often it 881 00:57:42,160 --> 00:57:46,120 Speaker 3: is not. And that's why it's so important that we 882 00:57:46,240 --> 00:57:49,760 Speaker 3: stand up and that we push back against these extremists 883 00:57:49,760 --> 00:57:53,240 Speaker 3: and against this hate. And that's why we have to 884 00:57:53,280 --> 00:57:55,400 Speaker 3: win this US Senate seat in Tennessee. 885 00:57:55,200 --> 00:57:57,240 Speaker 2: Perfect place stand it. Thank you for your time. 886 00:57:57,400 --> 00:58:00,560 Speaker 3: Thank you so much. I appreciate you have me on. 887 00:58:01,400 --> 00:58:04,160 Speaker 1: I'm Steve Schmidt. This is the warning and I invite 888 00:58:04,200 --> 00:58:07,960 Speaker 1: you to join. Subscribe on our substack, on our YouTube 889 00:58:08,040 --> 00:58:10,600 Speaker 1: channel follow us. Welcome to the community.