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Speaker 1: This is the Benn and Ashley I almost famous podcast

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Speaker 1: with her Radio. This is the almost famous podcast with

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Speaker 1: Ben and Ashley. I Ashley, how was your long weekend?

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Speaker 1: It was so good? How is yours? It was awesome?

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Speaker 1: Actually have a story for you. Wanna hear it? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: So I I tried to once a year get out

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Speaker 1: in the woods. Uh here in Colorado, like just far out,

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Speaker 1: backpack in a couple of miles, set up camp, hang out.

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Speaker 1: So that's why I did this weekend. Jessica actually on Friday.

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Speaker 1: Usually I'd leave on a Friday, but she went to

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Speaker 1: Shania Twain with Kalin in Vegas. This weekend. Jessica stepped out,

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Speaker 1: flew to Vegas for one day and then back the

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Speaker 1: next day just for this concert, which is very unlike

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Speaker 1: my wife. But they had a blast, um a really

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Speaker 1: good time, and then I left on Saturday. Have I

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Speaker 1: ever told you my bear story? Uh? Yeah, yeah, You've

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Speaker 1: been talked about how there's a lot of bears around. Yeah. Okay,

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Speaker 1: Well a few years ago when I first did this trip,

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Speaker 1: I forgot I had put bacon flavored sunflower seeds inside

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Speaker 1: my backpack and a bear destroyed my tent. I mean

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Speaker 1: literally rolled it up like a Chipotle burrito and aft

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Speaker 1: going after these sunflower seeds. And so I camped at

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Speaker 1: the same spot this weekend that I was at that time.

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Speaker 1: No bear, luckily, but I was very careful with my food.

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Speaker 1: No food in the bag, not even my toothpaste. This year,

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Speaker 1: gotten smarter, uh, But got to see some incredible wildlife,

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Speaker 1: a lot of birds, um, just a lot of stars.

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Speaker 1: It was really special for you, my first concert, really yeah.

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Speaker 1: And my greatest memory from it is just that I

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Speaker 1: had to pee the entire time, like so so bad.

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Speaker 1: I was in fifth grade, and um, I was with

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Speaker 1: at a concert, and I was supposed to ask her dad.

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Speaker 1: So I just held it the entire night. And obviously

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Speaker 1: don't remember anything about the concert except for my full bladder.

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Speaker 1: That's the worst happens to me on fights, like the

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Speaker 1: for everybody here to get up, and so then you

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Speaker 1: feel their sleeping. That's always tricky. Yeah, you feel like

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Speaker 1: a basketball is sitting in your gut, like you gotta

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Speaker 1: do it on a plane, you have to go and

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Speaker 1: at a concert you have to go to all fifth

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Speaker 1: grade girls listening makes you just go ask the dad. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's why he's there. Um, it'll be nice about it.

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Speaker 1: H Well, Ashley, it's a big week, obviously. I can't

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Speaker 1: believe it. We're coming to the end of the season

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Speaker 1: of The Bachelorette. Gabby and Rachel are kind of in

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Speaker 1: the home stretch of their experiences as bachelorette. Uh and Uh,

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Speaker 1: it's a big week because it's overnight dates, which always

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Speaker 1: bring drama. The drama they always do for obvious reasons,

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Speaker 1: right You And I like this these weeks, Ashley, because

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Speaker 1: I feel like the personality of the lead really shows

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Speaker 1: how they're going to navigate this physical intimacy, how they're

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Speaker 1: going to navigate the feelings of all of their contestants

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Speaker 1: that they care now at this point a lot about.

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Speaker 1: And I was very excited for this week because after

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Speaker 1: I mean, i mean, Clayton's season had some rough patches,

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Speaker 1: we're gonna handle overnights. Both of them did it in

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Speaker 1: different ways. What were your thoughts? I was like, overall,

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Speaker 1: I think overall, I wasn't really shocked by anything, though,

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Speaker 1: how like Tino was handling this. That was still a

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Speaker 1: You at the same time knowing how serious this is.

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Speaker 1: And so I have a hard time. I think Tino's

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Speaker 1: the famous Vedanta. I don't know how long of a

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Speaker 1: obviously the scene is set because this is a big week,

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Speaker 1: which starts us with Gabby's first overnight date with Eric Ashley.

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Speaker 1: Walk us through it. Okay, so the first date is

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Speaker 1: you're engaged. So that's it worked. That's why it was shown.

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00:24:36,560 --> 00:24:39,560
Speaker 1: We got up next Rachel and Avan's overnight date. I've

427
00:24:39,600 --> 00:24:41,560
Speaker 1: been a fan of Avan this whole time. I feel

428
00:24:41,560 --> 00:24:45,400
Speaker 1: like he is the silent kind of like the sneaky

429
00:24:46,000 --> 00:24:50,480
Speaker 1: pick here. Uh. He's obviously stood out since beginning. He's

430
00:24:50,480 --> 00:24:54,679
Speaker 1: been kind, he's been he's good looking. They have good chemistry.

431
00:24:55,520 --> 00:24:57,119
Speaker 1: I don't feel like we know I don't know if

432
00:24:57,119 --> 00:24:59,720
Speaker 1: I know Aven well, I don't know him at all.

433
00:25:00,119 --> 00:25:02,320
Speaker 1: This is a huge point that I wanted to make

434
00:25:02,400 --> 00:25:05,520
Speaker 1: in this this podcast. We have not been getting enough

435
00:25:05,800 --> 00:25:08,879
Speaker 1: in the moment. I tm interviews from these guys we

436
00:25:08,960 --> 00:25:11,440
Speaker 1: have not been getting enough interviews in general from these guys.

437
00:25:11,440 --> 00:25:16,680
Speaker 1: They're not narrating the show whatsoever. It's all the girls narrating.

438
00:25:16,680 --> 00:25:19,359
Speaker 1: And I think that is where we are feeling a

439
00:25:19,440 --> 00:25:23,600
Speaker 1: disconnect because you know, like back in maybe in every season,

440
00:25:24,400 --> 00:25:26,879
Speaker 1: but I can take it to my my season personally

441
00:25:27,000 --> 00:25:30,000
Speaker 1: a little bit more because, like I remember certain sound

442
00:25:30,080 --> 00:25:34,840
Speaker 1: bites and such, the girls really the cast narrated the

443
00:25:34,920 --> 00:25:39,600
Speaker 1: season a lot, and we had lots of funny little bits,

444
00:25:39,760 --> 00:25:42,439
Speaker 1: little bites, you know, little sound bites ever here and

445
00:25:42,520 --> 00:25:45,400
Speaker 1: there that you really there's like a lot of personality.

446
00:25:45,480 --> 00:25:48,560
Speaker 1: You're able to tell the personality is someone if not

447
00:25:48,640 --> 00:25:52,680
Speaker 1: on a date, through the sound bites, through the interview clips,

448
00:25:53,119 --> 00:25:55,720
Speaker 1: and with these guys, we get nothing. These guys are

449
00:25:55,800 --> 00:26:00,359
Speaker 1: so boring in the interview room. Well, do you think

450
00:26:00,400 --> 00:26:03,840
Speaker 1: they're boring in general? Then I don't think so. Actually,

451
00:26:03,880 --> 00:26:06,320
Speaker 1: I think they're bad interviews, And I think that that

452
00:26:06,400 --> 00:26:09,800
Speaker 1: might be why we're feeling. We're not feeling um their

453
00:26:09,800 --> 00:26:13,280
Speaker 1: personalities come through, yeah, because like the iconic moments are

454
00:26:13,359 --> 00:26:17,639
Speaker 1: the memes that you've created or that other contestants have created,

455
00:26:17,960 --> 00:26:20,800
Speaker 1: the funny like you said, sound bites or for you

456
00:26:20,840 --> 00:26:23,600
Speaker 1: the tears of emotion that sometimes made no sense on

457
00:26:23,640 --> 00:26:26,320
Speaker 1: why you're crying when you're crying. But that's like why

458
00:26:26,359 --> 00:26:29,080
Speaker 1: we fall in love with Ashley is she's we know

459
00:26:29,119 --> 00:26:31,800
Speaker 1: who she is, she's emotional, and we're showing the fact

460
00:26:31,840 --> 00:26:36,320
Speaker 1: that she gets emotional over everything. She laughed, cries when

461
00:26:36,400 --> 00:26:39,200
Speaker 1: you know. When the producer asked her about like how

462
00:26:39,200 --> 00:26:41,720
Speaker 1: our current current feelings are, She's like, this is so

463
00:26:41,960 --> 00:26:44,679
Speaker 1: I'm I'm referring to myself and she but it's like

464
00:26:45,480 --> 00:26:48,520
Speaker 1: I feel so ridiculous or feeling this that I'm laughing

465
00:26:48,560 --> 00:26:51,639
Speaker 1: and crying at the same time. You are not getting

466
00:26:51,680 --> 00:26:56,600
Speaker 1: anything from these guys. They are like freaking paint on

467
00:26:56,880 --> 00:27:00,080
Speaker 1: watching paint on, whatever that expression is. They are not

468
00:27:00,240 --> 00:27:02,800
Speaker 1: dynamic in the interview room, and we need more of

469
00:27:02,840 --> 00:27:07,080
Speaker 1: this watching pain dry. Uh So, yeah, I think that

470
00:27:07,359 --> 00:27:09,159
Speaker 1: we're missing that, and I think that that's one of

471
00:27:09,200 --> 00:27:11,560
Speaker 1: the reasons we don't know even very well. He seems

472
00:27:11,640 --> 00:27:15,200
Speaker 1: so sweet and pleasant and so attractive, and he literally

473
00:27:15,240 --> 00:27:19,840
Speaker 1: has not done a thing quote quote wrong or suspicious

474
00:27:20,000 --> 00:27:24,680
Speaker 1: or that made you go like everything has been lovely

475
00:27:24,800 --> 00:27:27,360
Speaker 1: with him, But we don't have a lot of um.

476
00:27:27,400 --> 00:27:41,440
Speaker 1: We don't have a lot of dynamic moments from him.

477
00:27:41,560 --> 00:27:45,840
Speaker 1: Can I make a comparison, Yeah, I feel like Even

478
00:27:45,920 --> 00:27:48,320
Speaker 1: and Jason are one of the reasons why this is happening,

479
00:27:48,359 --> 00:27:50,679
Speaker 1: are very similar to where this is probably just really

480
00:27:50,760 --> 00:27:54,840
Speaker 1: uncomfortable for them. They don't shine uh in a group

481
00:27:54,920 --> 00:27:57,800
Speaker 1: dating environment on a national television show, and so they've

482
00:27:57,960 --> 00:28:01,919
Speaker 1: been more reserved. They're probably there that they seem like

483
00:28:01,960 --> 00:28:06,359
Speaker 1: great guys, they're just uncomfortable. And so sometimes at the end,

484
00:28:06,400 --> 00:28:08,399
Speaker 1: we have big personalities. Most of the time, at the end,

485
00:28:08,400 --> 00:28:11,040
Speaker 1: we have the biggest personalities are the ones that still

486
00:28:11,160 --> 00:28:13,040
Speaker 1: are around, and so we hear a lot from these

487
00:28:13,080 --> 00:28:17,520
Speaker 1: big personalities, and for whatever reason, this is gabbing Rachel's journey.

488
00:28:17,520 --> 00:28:20,840
Speaker 1: But they both have somebody in their group that maybe

489
00:28:20,960 --> 00:28:23,159
Speaker 1: is a little more reserved, a little more uncomfortable, and

490
00:28:23,200 --> 00:28:25,280
Speaker 1: so we're not hearing it. And then we have Tino,

491
00:28:25,800 --> 00:28:28,640
Speaker 1: you know, who's an all mixed bag of emotions right now,

492
00:28:28,960 --> 00:28:33,840
Speaker 1: who you know is very like is having a hard

493
00:28:33,840 --> 00:28:35,840
Speaker 1: time with this whole process also, but I think he's

494
00:28:35,880 --> 00:28:38,080
Speaker 1: a big personality, he's just having a hard hard time.

495
00:28:39,040 --> 00:28:40,720
Speaker 1: And so we have two guys that are a little

496
00:28:40,760 --> 00:28:43,120
Speaker 1: lot more reserved that you expect, don't usually get there

497
00:28:43,120 --> 00:28:45,520
Speaker 1: at the end, but we have them, so we're not

498
00:28:45,560 --> 00:28:48,520
Speaker 1: seeing a lot. Yeah, you can tell that Tino is

499
00:28:48,560 --> 00:28:53,000
Speaker 1: just a chattier person in real life probably, Okay, um okay,

500
00:28:53,000 --> 00:28:56,280
Speaker 1: But back to Avon, I have not much to say

501
00:28:56,360 --> 00:29:01,320
Speaker 1: because it continues to be this like sweet, like everything

502
00:29:01,400 --> 00:29:04,280
Speaker 1: is lovely thing and she apparently really liked her fantasy

503
00:29:04,280 --> 00:29:07,400
Speaker 1: sheet moment for him. He is the full package, she says.

504
00:29:08,160 --> 00:29:11,360
Speaker 1: He says that they slept for twenty minutes. Uh, and

505
00:29:11,400 --> 00:29:15,240
Speaker 1: then she says that she's falling in love with him

506
00:29:15,280 --> 00:29:17,120
Speaker 1: and that. You know, That's when I was like, whoa,

507
00:29:17,320 --> 00:29:20,040
Speaker 1: she's saying it. And then I was shocked that she

508
00:29:20,080 --> 00:29:22,280
Speaker 1: went and said that she was in love with Tino.

509
00:29:22,360 --> 00:29:26,800
Speaker 1: So that just gives it all away, right, Yeah, it does. Uh.

510
00:29:26,920 --> 00:29:30,160
Speaker 1: It's a little frustrating. Uh not because I think Tino

511
00:29:30,400 --> 00:29:33,920
Speaker 1: is a terrible choice. I'm just you know, you have

512
00:29:33,960 --> 00:29:36,120
Speaker 1: people like Evan who are kind of doing this thing

513
00:29:36,240 --> 00:29:40,320
Speaker 1: well and walking through it well. And then you know,

514
00:29:40,360 --> 00:29:41,520
Speaker 1: in the back of her mind she's like, yeah, but

515
00:29:41,520 --> 00:29:44,520
Speaker 1: I'm just into somebody else. I'm wondering how blinded maybe

516
00:29:44,560 --> 00:29:47,480
Speaker 1: she is right now to what she thought she was

517
00:29:47,480 --> 00:29:49,920
Speaker 1: going to feel for Tino to now what she thinks

518
00:29:49,920 --> 00:29:54,120
Speaker 1: she feels for Tino and like the other guys are

519
00:29:54,160 --> 00:29:55,640
Speaker 1: just gonna kind of get put on the back burner,

520
00:29:55,680 --> 00:29:58,200
Speaker 1: which brings up Tino because Jesse goes to see Tino

521
00:29:58,280 --> 00:30:02,480
Speaker 1: in the next scene, right, and he basically just talks

522
00:30:02,520 --> 00:30:07,680
Speaker 1: about how the family visit was complicated. Um. He says

523
00:30:07,760 --> 00:30:09,440
Speaker 1: that there's like obviously this is something that they're going

524
00:30:09,480 --> 00:30:15,920
Speaker 1: to need to talk about. Um. He says that that

525
00:30:16,040 --> 00:30:19,200
Speaker 1: the waiting game, you know, just waiting for that last

526
00:30:19,880 --> 00:30:21,640
Speaker 1: what was that her that was not her last you know,

527
00:30:21,960 --> 00:30:25,240
Speaker 1: waiting throughout the week knowing that she's you know, sleeping

528
00:30:25,240 --> 00:30:29,920
Speaker 1: over possibly with other guys, is just the worst nails

529
00:30:29,960 --> 00:30:34,680
Speaker 1: a shockboard, he says. UM. And he says that his

530
00:30:34,760 --> 00:30:40,440
Speaker 1: dad took an interest and asked tough questions and it

531
00:30:40,520 --> 00:30:42,880
Speaker 1: was obviously concerned that Rachel walked out of the house

532
00:30:42,920 --> 00:30:46,000
Speaker 1: thinking that he did not like her. Um. He says

533
00:30:46,160 --> 00:30:49,720
Speaker 1: that the day that he was like naturally skeptical his

534
00:30:49,840 --> 00:30:52,520
Speaker 1: dad and that she was caught off guard by it.

535
00:30:52,560 --> 00:30:55,760
Speaker 1: Again like I don't think that he knows the extent

536
00:30:56,400 --> 00:30:59,560
Speaker 1: of which, like the dad was not friendly. Well and

537
00:30:59,600 --> 00:31:02,200
Speaker 1: now see and based on our headlines, you know, Tino's

538
00:31:02,280 --> 00:31:06,680
Speaker 1: dad has been pretty vocal on Facebook about that date

539
00:31:06,760 --> 00:31:10,680
Speaker 1: and about that time, and so he did take an interest.

540
00:31:11,800 --> 00:31:14,200
Speaker 1: I I just you know, I think a little bit

541
00:31:14,240 --> 00:31:19,240
Speaker 1: of this is too I don't know, when you're a parent,

542
00:31:19,400 --> 00:31:21,040
Speaker 1: like I said, you don't want to be overcritical. It's

543
00:31:21,040 --> 00:31:23,360
Speaker 1: a weird situation. But you also don't want to set

544
00:31:23,400 --> 00:31:25,440
Speaker 1: your kids up to be in in a harder situation

545
00:31:25,440 --> 00:31:27,720
Speaker 1: than they already are. This is a weird thing to navigate,

546
00:31:28,280 --> 00:31:31,120
Speaker 1: and so don't be the thing that gets in the middle.

547
00:31:32,040 --> 00:31:37,600
Speaker 1: Uh maybe in life of them taking chances, in pursuing

548
00:31:37,640 --> 00:31:40,440
Speaker 1: their dreams and their loves and their interests, you just

549
00:31:40,520 --> 00:31:41,880
Speaker 1: want to be the one that stands in the middle

550
00:31:41,920 --> 00:31:45,240
Speaker 1: of that. M hm. And so I think at some

551
00:31:45,320 --> 00:31:50,440
Speaker 1: point here it kind of feels like it's it's overshadowing

552
00:31:51,000 --> 00:31:54,680
Speaker 1: maybe what they have. Yeah, the first part of their

553
00:31:54,760 --> 00:31:58,720
Speaker 1: day is all about her like resisting and like being

554
00:31:58,800 --> 00:32:03,280
Speaker 1: scared to fall for him more because she's just worried

555
00:32:03,360 --> 00:32:06,240
Speaker 1: that they're going to get engaged and then they're still

556
00:32:06,280 --> 00:32:08,080
Speaker 1: not going to have family support and then it's going

557
00:32:08,120 --> 00:32:11,440
Speaker 1: to complicate things and you know, but then she seems

558
00:32:11,480 --> 00:32:16,440
Speaker 1: to really get over that during the nighttime portion. Um, again,

559
00:32:16,560 --> 00:32:20,040
Speaker 1: Tino is kind of well Rachel's Rachel says, your dad

560
00:32:20,120 --> 00:32:24,640
Speaker 1: said I won't disown him. This is the proper quote

561
00:32:24,760 --> 00:32:27,960
Speaker 1: that I was referring to earlier. I won't disown him

562
00:32:28,000 --> 00:32:31,239
Speaker 1: if he gets engaged, but I won't accept it. That

563
00:32:31,560 --> 00:32:37,440
Speaker 1: is bad. That's way worse than what I had said previously. Yeah,

564
00:32:37,560 --> 00:32:40,960
Speaker 1: and then Tina goes, really, and Rachel's like, yeah, I'm

565
00:32:41,000 --> 00:32:44,800
Speaker 1: kind of worried up moving forward. And he goes, well, um,

566
00:32:44,840 --> 00:32:49,280
Speaker 1: my dad doesn't get me necessarily in the relationships sphere,

567
00:32:50,680 --> 00:32:54,200
Speaker 1: and he says that they're skeptical of the situation. Um,

568
00:32:54,240 --> 00:32:58,240
Speaker 1: but they know him and he wouldn't be here if

569
00:32:58,280 --> 00:33:02,200
Speaker 1: he didn't see her as his future. And then Rachel

570
00:33:02,440 --> 00:33:05,920
Speaker 1: wants them to make you know. She was like, okay,

571
00:33:05,920 --> 00:33:08,080
Speaker 1: so if we get engaged, like, I do not want

572
00:33:08,120 --> 00:33:10,760
Speaker 1: them to be mad. And then he goes, they won't

573
00:33:10,760 --> 00:33:14,880
Speaker 1: be mad. I know that they will come around. And

574
00:33:14,960 --> 00:33:18,200
Speaker 1: that's basically the way that it ends, and she feels

575
00:33:18,280 --> 00:33:22,840
Speaker 1: more reassured. Yeah, hey, I know they'll come around. That's

576
00:33:22,840 --> 00:33:24,720
Speaker 1: not what you want to hear when you're engaged. Um,

577
00:33:25,120 --> 00:33:28,440
Speaker 1: they my parents will like you at some point. Uh. Yeah,

578
00:33:28,680 --> 00:33:33,320
Speaker 1: that that's not exactly ideal, but it does come around,

579
00:33:34,520 --> 00:33:37,920
Speaker 1: and so we get to the evening portion. Then after

580
00:33:37,960 --> 00:33:41,480
Speaker 1: this conversation exists, do you still feel I mean we

581
00:33:41,520 --> 00:33:43,840
Speaker 1: talked about a little bit. Do you still feel like Rachel,

582
00:33:43,960 --> 00:33:46,160
Speaker 1: you know, have a connection that could exist and last

583
00:33:46,200 --> 00:33:48,880
Speaker 1: outside of this show, past this show, And do you

584
00:33:48,920 --> 00:33:51,200
Speaker 1: still feel like he's your front runner? I still feel

585
00:33:51,200 --> 00:33:54,560
Speaker 1: like he's the front runner because he said because she said,

586
00:33:54,600 --> 00:33:57,000
Speaker 1: I'm in love with you. There was no falling here,

587
00:33:57,680 --> 00:34:01,600
Speaker 1: there is just being. So he's definitely the front runner.

588
00:34:01,600 --> 00:34:03,200
Speaker 1: And I think that there's just more of a physical

589
00:34:03,240 --> 00:34:06,600
Speaker 1: connection that she has with him then the other guys.

590
00:34:06,680 --> 00:34:10,000
Speaker 1: I think there's a lot of physical attraction. There is

591
00:34:10,080 --> 00:34:13,560
Speaker 1: just um, he's got a little bit more of an

592
00:34:13,680 --> 00:34:16,880
Speaker 1: edge of a swag than the other two do. The

593
00:34:16,920 --> 00:34:19,920
Speaker 1: other two are wonderful options. But I do think that

594
00:34:20,000 --> 00:34:23,640
Speaker 1: like when it comes to like sexy, suave, like hot guy,

595
00:34:23,800 --> 00:34:27,280
Speaker 1: like the one that you like, the one he's like

596
00:34:27,280 --> 00:34:30,239
Speaker 1: like the hawkeye in high school, that a lot of

597
00:34:30,360 --> 00:34:34,600
Speaker 1: us are gravitated towards because back in high school, like

598
00:34:34,680 --> 00:34:37,240
Speaker 1: we were in like the the middle of the line,

599
00:34:37,320 --> 00:34:39,360
Speaker 1: you know, like we didn't get the popular guys, and

600
00:34:39,400 --> 00:34:41,080
Speaker 1: I feel like this is kind of like the popular

601
00:34:41,120 --> 00:34:43,800
Speaker 1: guy and he wants her. Yeah, I have no idea.

602
00:34:43,880 --> 00:34:45,719
Speaker 1: She was probably popular in school too, and probably got

603
00:34:45,760 --> 00:34:47,319
Speaker 1: any guys she wanted. I'm just looking at it from

604
00:34:47,320 --> 00:34:50,520
Speaker 1: my perspective. You're putting yourself in the story. That's okay, Yeah,

605
00:34:50,520 --> 00:34:55,799
Speaker 1: that's fair. Well. Uh, they have their overnight and we

606
00:34:55,840 --> 00:34:58,000
Speaker 1: see Gabby going the overnight, which is probably the biggest

607
00:34:59,320 --> 00:35:02,480
Speaker 1: moment I'd say so far in the show. Is the

608
00:35:02,560 --> 00:35:07,239
Speaker 1: Johnny and Gabby overnight or not there but at least

609
00:35:07,360 --> 00:35:11,120
Speaker 1: prepping for it, right Yeah, Okay, I'll let you break

610
00:35:11,160 --> 00:35:13,120
Speaker 1: it down. But I have a question that I would

611
00:35:13,160 --> 00:35:15,600
Speaker 1: love to be answered that I want your opinion on.

612
00:35:16,120 --> 00:35:19,000
Speaker 1: Do you feel like this had this scenario that you're

613
00:35:19,000 --> 00:35:21,560
Speaker 1: gonna walk us through here had anything to do with

614
00:35:21,840 --> 00:35:26,360
Speaker 1: Eric's words to Gabby in the fantasy suite, the fact

615
00:35:26,400 --> 00:35:32,799
Speaker 1: that she basically didn't go ahead with another overnight right here. Um,

616
00:35:32,960 --> 00:35:36,279
Speaker 1: I actually don't feel like they're related, but it's an

617
00:35:36,360 --> 00:35:43,759
Speaker 1: interesting point. I think that we saw Johnny's hometown and

618
00:35:43,840 --> 00:35:48,400
Speaker 1: he was obviously telling his parents openly how he was

619
00:35:48,600 --> 00:35:53,640
Speaker 1: not ready to get engaged, and their conversation, I mean

620
00:35:53,680 --> 00:35:55,880
Speaker 1: I just feel like he was like the weak man

621
00:35:56,040 --> 00:36:00,239
Speaker 1: of these three between Jason and Eric and Johnny. He's

622
00:36:00,239 --> 00:36:04,000
Speaker 1: definitely like the weak link where they have fun together,

623
00:36:04,120 --> 00:36:07,560
Speaker 1: but we don't see it as this great love. And again,

624
00:36:07,640 --> 00:36:10,400
Speaker 1: like on the boat, you're seeing them like have fun together,

625
00:36:11,120 --> 00:36:15,319
Speaker 1: talk about boats. You're like she had a hamster and

626
00:36:15,400 --> 00:36:18,960
Speaker 1: he had a catamaran or something like that. You just

627
00:36:19,000 --> 00:36:23,319
Speaker 1: don't feel like this deep connection. And then we just

628
00:36:23,560 --> 00:36:28,160
Speaker 1: circled around the conversation for so long as they sat

629
00:36:28,239 --> 00:36:31,960
Speaker 1: on the sand, waiting eventually to get to this point

630
00:36:32,000 --> 00:36:35,279
Speaker 1: where it's like, so I need to get engaged, and

631
00:36:35,320 --> 00:36:38,000
Speaker 1: then he goes, but I don't think I'm ready to

632
00:36:38,040 --> 00:36:44,120
Speaker 1: get engaged, and and then she's like, Okay, well, um,

633
00:36:44,120 --> 00:36:47,560
Speaker 1: this is sad because basically I have a man in

634
00:36:47,600 --> 00:36:49,400
Speaker 1: front of me saying he doesn't like me enough to

635
00:36:49,440 --> 00:36:52,960
Speaker 1: get engaged next week, which I think has to be.

636
00:36:53,160 --> 00:36:55,359
Speaker 1: You have to respect it. You have to respect if

637
00:36:55,360 --> 00:36:59,160
Speaker 1: the the process isn't, yeah, you can't get him for that.

638
00:36:59,719 --> 00:37:02,239
Speaker 1: But again, you sign up for the show and you

639
00:37:02,320 --> 00:37:03,960
Speaker 1: kind of know that that's what happens at the end,

640
00:37:04,000 --> 00:37:06,960
Speaker 1: but it's all in whatever time. Do you feel comfortable

641
00:37:06,960 --> 00:37:09,239
Speaker 1: with some people probably would never think they're going to

642
00:37:09,320 --> 00:37:12,200
Speaker 1: get engaged after eight weeks and they're fine with it

643
00:37:12,280 --> 00:37:14,480
Speaker 1: and they live happily. Ever after then some people are

644
00:37:14,480 --> 00:37:18,279
Speaker 1: probably like down for it and it's a mistake from

645
00:37:18,280 --> 00:37:21,759
Speaker 1: them anyway. I really just think that they were just

646
00:37:22,080 --> 00:37:26,080
Speaker 1: circling the conversation over and over again, and Johnny said

647
00:37:26,080 --> 00:37:28,680
Speaker 1: this really funny. Johnny was like, I don't know how

648
00:37:28,680 --> 00:37:32,400
Speaker 1: I feel. I feel numb. I am upset. I was like,

649
00:37:32,880 --> 00:37:35,080
Speaker 1: this is why we don't have any I T moments

650
00:37:35,080 --> 00:37:38,160
Speaker 1: for them. This is this is, this is it. They

651
00:37:38,160 --> 00:37:44,279
Speaker 1: cannot describe I I am not. There's no way to

652
00:37:44,360 --> 00:37:46,520
Speaker 1: villainize a moment where you like, I know I sent

653
00:37:46,640 --> 00:37:48,839
Speaker 1: up for a show that INDs and engagement, but I'm

654
00:37:48,840 --> 00:37:51,160
Speaker 1: just not there yet. I would like this show to

655
00:37:51,239 --> 00:37:53,759
Speaker 1: be more like that, where we're at the end and

656
00:37:53,760 --> 00:37:56,880
Speaker 1: we're like, I don't know, like you know, I know

657
00:37:56,920 --> 00:37:58,520
Speaker 1: they like each other, but are they ready to make

658
00:37:58,560 --> 00:38:01,680
Speaker 1: this big commitment. Yeah. I'm mostly because I'm just tired

659
00:38:01,719 --> 00:38:03,720
Speaker 1: of people breaking up. Which, hey, I'm in that group,

660
00:38:03,800 --> 00:38:06,440
Speaker 1: so I can't like I'm not critical. I just I

661
00:38:06,520 --> 00:38:08,680
Speaker 1: would like to know when somebody does get down on

662
00:38:08,680 --> 00:38:10,439
Speaker 1: one knee at the end, They're like, no, I'm doing

663
00:38:10,480 --> 00:38:12,480
Speaker 1: this because I mean it, not because I feel like

664
00:38:12,520 --> 00:38:14,960
Speaker 1: the show is making me or because I this is

665
00:38:14,960 --> 00:38:18,279
Speaker 1: what I signed up for. I've said that for years. Um. Yeah,

666
00:38:18,560 --> 00:38:20,840
Speaker 1: and just to date afterwards even and we can follow

667
00:38:20,880 --> 00:38:22,920
Speaker 1: that story if we want, but we'd probably just move

668
00:38:22,960 --> 00:38:27,160
Speaker 1: on to the next season anyways. But yeah, I don't

669
00:38:27,200 --> 00:38:29,360
Speaker 1: think you can villainize him. But I also think it

670
00:38:29,440 --> 00:38:31,400
Speaker 1: is funny that you pointed out that he did say

671
00:38:31,520 --> 00:38:33,480
Speaker 1: I don't know, I feel I feel no, I'm just

672
00:38:33,480 --> 00:38:36,600
Speaker 1: sat or whatever. I feel nothing. I feel no, I

673
00:38:36,640 --> 00:38:41,800
Speaker 1: feel upset all at once, you know, sequential sentence or whatever.

674
00:38:42,000 --> 00:38:43,359
Speaker 1: This is just too much for me. I've never talked

675
00:38:43,360 --> 00:38:46,680
Speaker 1: about my emotions before. This is weird. Yeah. Well, I

676
00:38:46,719 --> 00:38:49,920
Speaker 1: think with Johnny is that he's just been overall nice,

677
00:38:50,000 --> 00:38:53,440
Speaker 1: honest guy. He's really never hidden anything. There's nothing to

678
00:38:53,480 --> 00:38:56,560
Speaker 1: get on him for because he's been transparent the entire

679
00:38:56,640 --> 00:38:59,440
Speaker 1: way through Yeah, even through the group dates. I agree

680
00:38:59,440 --> 00:39:02,239
Speaker 1: with that. Well, Uh, Johnny's not there any longer. He

681
00:39:02,280 --> 00:39:07,319
Speaker 1: goes home. Ah, And it's mostly I mean, I don't

682
00:39:07,360 --> 00:39:09,520
Speaker 1: know how much has to do with the Eric's words

683
00:39:09,520 --> 00:39:12,279
Speaker 1: to Gabby, but I do think it's probably the the

684
00:39:12,440 --> 00:39:17,160
Speaker 1: right decision because this relationship heavy in its course. Yeah.

685
00:39:17,200 --> 00:39:20,959
Speaker 1: I mean nobody walked away from that scene being like, ah,

686
00:39:21,040 --> 00:39:24,399
Speaker 1: they lost their great love. Yeah, I like, I get

687
00:39:24,400 --> 00:39:28,279
Speaker 1: it fair. Okay, a couple more scenes here, Ashley to

688
00:39:28,320 --> 00:39:33,080
Speaker 1: walk us through h Jesse does visit Jason, who is

689
00:39:33,840 --> 00:39:36,960
Speaker 1: uh still part of Gabby's group. Jason has been more

690
00:39:37,000 --> 00:39:40,120
Speaker 1: reserved and more quiet throughout the whole season, but Gabby

691
00:39:40,200 --> 00:39:42,759
Speaker 1: has obviously felt something very strong for him through this

692
00:39:42,760 --> 00:39:47,760
Speaker 1: whole season as well. Yeah, and we get this sound

693
00:39:47,800 --> 00:39:52,320
Speaker 1: bite from Jason who's basically says he's, like I said earlier,

694
00:39:52,719 --> 00:39:57,440
Speaker 1: not in love with Gabby, yet he's getting there, and

695
00:39:57,600 --> 00:40:02,799
Speaker 1: this just has him leaving written all over it, especially

696
00:40:02,840 --> 00:40:05,560
Speaker 1: since we have the other sound bite of Jesse saying

697
00:40:06,480 --> 00:40:10,000
Speaker 1: there's a guy there, Gabby or Rachel, you are the

698
00:40:10,040 --> 00:40:14,000
Speaker 1: only bachelor at remaining. So in my head, that means

699
00:40:14,120 --> 00:40:20,600
Speaker 1: that Gabby is left with just Eric and perhaps she's

700
00:40:20,640 --> 00:40:25,400
Speaker 1: not sold on Eric after this quote testing scene, and

701
00:40:26,080 --> 00:40:29,000
Speaker 1: that's why we hear her saying, like, am I did

702
00:40:29,040 --> 00:40:32,000
Speaker 1: she use your word? Did she say she's unlovable or

703
00:40:32,040 --> 00:40:37,880
Speaker 1: something like that? So I think that's a big tease.

704
00:40:37,960 --> 00:40:41,160
Speaker 1: I think she's gonna end up with Eric, but I

705
00:40:41,160 --> 00:40:43,640
Speaker 1: don't know if it's gonna be easy or there's gonna

706
00:40:43,640 --> 00:40:47,040
Speaker 1: be like some romantic engagement scene. We've actually, like have

707
00:40:47,440 --> 00:40:51,680
Speaker 1: no teasing clips of an engagement scene, right, have we

708
00:40:51,800 --> 00:40:54,840
Speaker 1: seen like the guys like walking up with Well, I

709
00:40:54,840 --> 00:40:56,880
Speaker 1: guess obviously we're not seeing the guys, but we're not

710
00:40:56,920 --> 00:40:59,480
Speaker 1: seeing any rings being picked out or anything like that,

711
00:41:00,400 --> 00:41:03,719
Speaker 1: So who knows? Which makes me think that they there's

712
00:41:03,719 --> 00:41:06,520
Speaker 1: an engagement scene like that. You do, Yeah, like they're

713
00:41:06,600 --> 00:41:10,240
Speaker 1: hiding it from us because they want us to be surprised. Okay,

714
00:41:10,880 --> 00:41:13,520
Speaker 1: that's so that's where my mind goes. Okay, but do

715
00:41:13,560 --> 00:41:15,279
Speaker 1: you agree with me that you think that Gabby is

716
00:41:15,280 --> 00:41:17,640
Speaker 1: going to be left with just the pick of Eric. Yeah,

717
00:41:17,760 --> 00:41:20,600
Speaker 1: and I think she's happy with it. Yeah, she's happy

718
00:41:20,640 --> 00:41:23,439
Speaker 1: with it. And look, look Eric, he didn't She didn't

719
00:41:23,440 --> 00:41:28,640
Speaker 1: sleep with anybody else because nobody else is around. So

720
00:41:29,040 --> 00:41:32,840
Speaker 1: there you go. Well, final scene, we brought it up

721
00:41:32,880 --> 00:41:37,560
Speaker 1: a little bit before Ashley, you teased it. Gabby thinks

722
00:41:37,560 --> 00:41:41,120
Speaker 1: she's going to see her grandpa Um, but Eric just

723
00:41:41,160 --> 00:41:45,000
Speaker 1: wants to see her. This is kind of the end

724
00:41:45,200 --> 00:41:48,880
Speaker 1: of the episode. Is the big teaser for our next episode,

725
00:41:49,280 --> 00:41:53,239
Speaker 1: which obviously we get two episodes this week. Ah, walk

726
00:41:53,360 --> 00:41:56,920
Speaker 1: us through it? Well, you know, we we did have.

727
00:41:57,320 --> 00:41:58,960
Speaker 1: We didn't cover most of it, but we do. I

728
00:41:59,000 --> 00:42:02,400
Speaker 1: do want to talk about how Gabby left it. She

729
00:42:02,440 --> 00:42:05,360
Speaker 1: said she's questioning if he will be her guy, or

730
00:42:05,400 --> 00:42:09,600
Speaker 1: if Jason will be her guy. And she says that people, um,

731
00:42:09,840 --> 00:42:14,840
Speaker 1: she says people she wants to love her never do

732
00:42:15,800 --> 00:42:18,600
Speaker 1: and she hopes this doesn't end up in a dumpster fire,

733
00:42:18,760 --> 00:42:21,359
Speaker 1: but it feels like it could be the end for her.

734
00:42:21,480 --> 00:42:24,440
Speaker 1: Like those are big, big words. Do you feel like?

735
00:42:24,520 --> 00:42:28,479
Speaker 1: Am I wrong in saying those words alone? Almost feel

736
00:42:28,480 --> 00:42:30,840
Speaker 1: like they're hinting at if Eric leaves, this thing is

737
00:42:30,920 --> 00:42:34,759
Speaker 1: kind of over for me. I don't think it's I

738
00:42:34,760 --> 00:42:38,400
Speaker 1: don't think Eric's going to leave, even if she sleeps

739
00:42:38,440 --> 00:42:41,720
Speaker 1: with everyone and he finds out about it. I think

740
00:42:42,800 --> 00:42:47,520
Speaker 1: she's trying. She's questioning whether or not she wants to

741
00:42:47,560 --> 00:42:51,120
Speaker 1: be with Eric, a guy who's bringing this conversation up

742
00:42:51,160 --> 00:42:54,560
Speaker 1: to her after he was already done in a fantasy suite. Okay.

743
00:42:55,200 --> 00:42:58,680
Speaker 1: I think she's thinking like he's making this conversation public

744
00:42:59,200 --> 00:43:02,160
Speaker 1: and I don't like that because we've established it in

745
00:43:02,239 --> 00:43:04,680
Speaker 1: private and it was important that it stayed private to me,

746
00:43:05,000 --> 00:43:06,560
Speaker 1: which is why I think she kind of called them

747
00:43:06,560 --> 00:43:08,799
Speaker 1: out on it. I don't know, maybe I'm looking to

748
00:43:08,880 --> 00:43:12,480
Speaker 1: into it, okay. My my thought to you is, I

749
00:43:12,520 --> 00:43:14,920
Speaker 1: don't know if it's okay for you in this scenario

750
00:43:14,960 --> 00:43:16,920
Speaker 1: to be like, I don't know. I feel like as

751
00:43:16,920 --> 00:43:20,359
Speaker 1: a viewer, we should know either we don't know anything. Well,

752
00:43:20,480 --> 00:43:23,040
Speaker 1: I feel like we either shouldn't know anything about it,

753
00:43:23,239 --> 00:43:25,960
Speaker 1: or we should know something about it. Not that the

754
00:43:26,040 --> 00:43:28,640
Speaker 1: viewer has any right to anything here. This is their

755
00:43:28,680 --> 00:43:31,080
Speaker 1: experiences that we're watching. But now we're just kind of

756
00:43:31,160 --> 00:43:34,879
Speaker 1: left in a huge scene that feels like it's a

757
00:43:34,880 --> 00:43:39,120
Speaker 1: culmination of months of watching the show, and your left

758
00:43:39,120 --> 00:43:41,120
Speaker 1: as a viewer who is very engaged in this show

759
00:43:41,160 --> 00:43:44,040
Speaker 1: going I don't know, and I don't think that's I

760
00:43:44,040 --> 00:43:46,160
Speaker 1: don't know if that I mean, and I have the

761
00:43:46,239 --> 00:43:49,080
Speaker 1: same feeling. There's just a lot of assumptions left to

762
00:43:49,080 --> 00:43:52,240
Speaker 1: be There are a lot of assumptions, so we can't

763
00:43:52,280 --> 00:43:54,680
Speaker 1: really pick sides if we don't know exactly how the

764
00:43:54,680 --> 00:43:57,719
Speaker 1: conversation went down. Granted, do we know how every conversation

765
00:43:57,760 --> 00:44:00,239
Speaker 1: that's ever aired really went down? No, because has to

766
00:44:00,239 --> 00:44:04,840
Speaker 1: be chopped down. But I do love a fantasy suite

767
00:44:05,680 --> 00:44:09,520
Speaker 1: drama in this case, where like people leave the fantasy

768
00:44:09,520 --> 00:44:12,000
Speaker 1: suite and then the drama from it gets brought up,

769
00:44:12,680 --> 00:44:18,360
Speaker 1: Like remember from Claren Wan Pablo and I was thinking

770
00:44:18,400 --> 00:44:21,319
Speaker 1: Tasha and Colton. Remember she walked out and she was like,

771
00:44:21,440 --> 00:44:26,719
Speaker 1: I don't I don't know, and then there was a

772
00:44:26,920 --> 00:44:34,440
Speaker 1: Rachel Lindsay and yeah and Peter. That was that was good?

773
00:44:36,280 --> 00:44:38,960
Speaker 1: All right? Anyway, So I do love a little about

774
00:44:39,400 --> 00:44:42,200
Speaker 1: fantasy Suite Cliffhanger. I think we're gonna get a little

775
00:44:42,200 --> 00:44:44,399
Speaker 1: bit more contacts in the next episode. We'll find out.

776
00:44:45,200 --> 00:44:48,839
Speaker 1: But let's move on to headlines and trending tweets from

777
00:44:49,080 --> 00:45:03,719
Speaker 1: last night? Shall we do that after the break? All right,

778
00:45:03,760 --> 00:45:06,280
Speaker 1: let's go through trending tweets from last night. I love

779
00:45:06,400 --> 00:45:08,839
Speaker 1: these tweets. We just kind of added this segment into

780
00:45:08,920 --> 00:45:13,040
Speaker 1: the podcast, what is up with the black Box? Over

781
00:45:13,080 --> 00:45:16,720
Speaker 1: Gabby's butt. I'm actually quite annoyed at the black Box

782
00:45:16,800 --> 00:45:20,480
Speaker 1: because why put her in a bathing suit that you're

783
00:45:20,520 --> 00:45:23,080
Speaker 1: going to have the black boxer on? It's so distracting,

784
00:45:23,160 --> 00:45:26,600
Speaker 1: and it's like, isn't really that skimpy that it can't

785
00:45:26,600 --> 00:45:31,160
Speaker 1: make primetime. ABC, Come on, it can't be that skimpy again.

786
00:45:31,200 --> 00:45:33,200
Speaker 1: Then why do you put it in the swimsuit? Don't

787
00:45:33,200 --> 00:45:36,680
Speaker 1: put her in the swimsuit. It's like kind of demoralizing. Yeah,

788
00:45:36,960 --> 00:45:40,080
Speaker 1: it's weird. Yeah, I don't I don't love it. No,

789
00:45:40,719 --> 00:45:43,040
Speaker 1: they like really made an effort to if you saw

790
00:45:43,160 --> 00:45:45,520
Speaker 1: some of them, they edit it in a way that

791
00:45:46,120 --> 00:45:49,319
Speaker 1: you could see like multiple layers. Like they really took

792
00:45:49,360 --> 00:45:55,719
Speaker 1: their they're manipulating skills. Um, okay. Other trending tweets that

793
00:45:55,760 --> 00:46:00,920
Speaker 1: made you giggle Gabby and Eric jumping. There's there's a

794
00:46:01,200 --> 00:46:04,920
Speaker 1: tweet that says, is that why this episode is split

795
00:46:04,960 --> 00:46:08,920
Speaker 1: into two? We had to spend twenty minutes watching Eric

796
00:46:08,960 --> 00:46:11,640
Speaker 1: and Gabby prepared to jump into the water. Hey, I

797
00:46:11,719 --> 00:46:14,680
Speaker 1: told you earlier. You need to put in all those

798
00:46:14,719 --> 00:46:19,960
Speaker 1: Bachelor punts, the jumping, in the falling, It's got to

799
00:46:20,000 --> 00:46:23,480
Speaker 1: be there. Uh. And then ABC I think kind of

800
00:46:23,480 --> 00:46:25,040
Speaker 1: messed up a little bit. There's a tweet here that

801
00:46:25,120 --> 00:46:29,040
Speaker 1: I find odd too. Is ABC spoiling Johnny's illumination by

802
00:46:29,040 --> 00:46:32,680
Speaker 1: showing him a Bachelor in Paradise preview. They did put

803
00:46:32,760 --> 00:46:39,040
Speaker 1: him in the Paradise preview last week. That's funny. Okay,

804
00:46:39,040 --> 00:46:41,160
Speaker 1: so yes, they did mess up there. I think it

805
00:46:41,280 --> 00:46:43,440
Speaker 1: was just so obvious those two weren't going to end

806
00:46:43,520 --> 00:46:46,640
Speaker 1: up together. There we go. Okay, it's time for headlines.

807
00:46:47,800 --> 00:46:49,759
Speaker 1: Big headline here kind of snuck up on us a

808
00:46:49,760 --> 00:46:52,560
Speaker 1: little bit. But the Bachelor Lama, Amanda Stanton is married.

809
00:46:52,600 --> 00:46:56,160
Speaker 1: All the details of her timeless California nuptials. Um, and

810
00:46:56,200 --> 00:47:01,839
Speaker 1: this is according to people. Congratulations, Amanda, super pumped. Gratulations Amanda. Yes,

811
00:47:01,920 --> 00:47:05,480
Speaker 1: this wedding was definitely put together quickly. They got engaged

812
00:47:05,520 --> 00:47:09,560
Speaker 1: in December. Um. But she definitely wanted to get the

813
00:47:09,600 --> 00:47:12,560
Speaker 1: wedding going. I think she planned it in like five

814
00:47:12,719 --> 00:47:17,319
Speaker 1: I think it was like five months. Um. It looked sedanning.

815
00:47:17,520 --> 00:47:21,239
Speaker 1: The pictures are beautiful. Her dresses are spectacular, as they

816
00:47:21,239 --> 00:47:26,000
Speaker 1: would be in all Amanda stand fashion. Uh. Lauren Lane

817
00:47:26,080 --> 00:47:29,880
Speaker 1: was there, Andy Dorfan was there, Emily Ferguson and Raven

818
00:47:29,880 --> 00:47:35,480
Speaker 1: and Adam were there. Um. She walked down the aisle

819
00:47:36,080 --> 00:47:41,560
Speaker 1: in a Monique Lilier gown as Taylor Swift's Wildest Dreams

820
00:47:41,600 --> 00:47:46,920
Speaker 1: played like WHOA that is a moment? Uh. The The

821
00:47:47,680 --> 00:47:52,040
Speaker 1: theme for the night was an elevated modern garden wedding.

822
00:47:52,160 --> 00:47:57,160
Speaker 1: It was very simple. Guests dined on lobster rolls, steak

823
00:47:57,280 --> 00:48:01,719
Speaker 1: in fish, and a dessert crape station. They also had

824
00:48:01,719 --> 00:48:05,719
Speaker 1: a late night bites pizza and grilled cheese. Kins her

825
00:48:05,800 --> 00:48:08,680
Speaker 1: daughter Kins was the maid of honor, and Charlie it

826
00:48:08,840 --> 00:48:11,719
Speaker 1: was the flower girl. It was adorable and their dog

827
00:48:11,880 --> 00:48:16,080
Speaker 1: made all the pictures even better. That's so good. Well,

828
00:48:16,120 --> 00:48:20,319
Speaker 1: we're really happy for Amanda. She's an awesome girl in

829
00:48:20,320 --> 00:48:23,560
Speaker 1: this relationship has been really fun to watch through social media.

830
00:48:23,880 --> 00:48:28,640
Speaker 1: So yeah, her husband, it seems so fun like he's

831
00:48:28,719 --> 00:48:32,560
Speaker 1: hilarious on social media. Well. Uh, former Bachelor at Claire

832
00:48:32,600 --> 00:48:36,719
Speaker 1: Crawley debutsed new man after breakup from Dale Moss or

833
00:48:36,760 --> 00:48:39,440
Speaker 1: the engagement, I guess got broken up. This according to

834
00:48:39,520 --> 00:48:43,120
Speaker 1: US Weekly, we know nothing about this guy's We know

835
00:48:43,200 --> 00:48:49,400
Speaker 1: nothing about him because the caption is simply him. She

836
00:48:49,480 --> 00:48:51,520
Speaker 1: put a reel of the two of them like just

837
00:48:52,000 --> 00:48:55,480
Speaker 1: goofing off from the car together and that was her

838
00:48:55,560 --> 00:49:00,520
Speaker 1: hard launch for her boyfriend. We do know his name. Um,

839
00:49:00,600 --> 00:49:05,279
Speaker 1: what we suspect the fans are are suspeculating that this

840
00:49:05,400 --> 00:49:11,920
Speaker 1: is Mascot Sports CEO Ryan Dawkins. She didn't provide the

841
00:49:11,960 --> 00:49:14,280
Speaker 1: name but the fans are, you know, they've done their digging.

842
00:49:15,120 --> 00:49:18,279
Speaker 1: And she says that they've been seeing each other for

843
00:49:18,320 --> 00:49:22,719
Speaker 1: a while. And I'm really happy about this. I saw

844
00:49:22,960 --> 00:49:26,520
Speaker 1: Claire in June and I know that she was seeing someone,

845
00:49:26,920 --> 00:49:29,200
Speaker 1: but I didn't know it was something that was on

846
00:49:29,239 --> 00:49:31,440
Speaker 1: the road to seriousness. And I'm not sure if it's

847
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Speaker 1: even the same guy, but I'm so excited for her.

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Speaker 1: I'm always rooting for Claire's love life. There we go,

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Speaker 1: Claire back at it again. Next headline is this Bachelor Nations,

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Speaker 1: Sannah Brown attends her brother Patrick's wedding to Jed Wyatt's

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Speaker 1: we all know what we don't Maybe you don't know,

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Speaker 1: I don't think. Well, the final headline is this big

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Speaker 1: congratulations and just um admiration for bachelortte alum Zach Clark.

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Speaker 1: He celebrates eleven years of sobriety. His quote is if

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Speaker 1: I can do it, you can do it. This. According

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Speaker 1: to people, he said, I'm super super grateful. I feel

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Speaker 1: very loved the beautiful notes and messages. Thank you so

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Speaker 1: the person that is out there still struggling today, struggling

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Speaker 1: that I am so proud of. He said. It was

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Speaker 1: one more hit. Said. This life isn't This life is easy,

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Speaker 1: want it, ask for help. We are here for you.

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Speaker 1: We love you. Keep going, dig in. I promise it

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Speaker 1: gets better. If you can do it, I can do it.

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Speaker 1: Let's go and again just remind you guys. He is

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Speaker 1: rehab center for people that well, that are currently in

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Speaker 1: the situation that he was in. Absolutely beautiful. Congratulations Zach.

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Speaker 1: Let's all we have for you today. This has been

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Speaker 1: the Almost Famous podcast and I've been Been, I've been Ashley.

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