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Speaker 1: On this week's episode of Cultivating her Space.

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Speaker 2: What Towerbiz, it's really an illustration of human archetypes. That's

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Speaker 2: what we want to start from. So we're talking about

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Speaker 2: a deck like people familiar with playing cards. It's going

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Speaker 2: going to have imagery on it, and those imagery take

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Speaker 2: us through the kind of cycles and life experiences, so

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Speaker 2: we can have deaths and births and marriages and career

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Speaker 2: depicting the human experience.

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Speaker 1: Today's episode is sure to provides you with motivation, inspiration,

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Speaker 3: Welcome to Cultivating her Space, a podcast dedicated to uplifting

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Speaker 4: And Terry Lomax, a techie and motivational speaker in a

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Speaker 3: to hearing from you, lady.

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Speaker 4: We have a very special guest today. We are so

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Speaker 4: excited and I do want to say, based on the title,

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Speaker 4: if you are new to taro or your skeptical, please

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Speaker 4: give this conversation a chance. Okay, be open minded and

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Speaker 4: take what resonates and lead the rest over there. Okay,

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Speaker 4: so let's get into our guest bio and then we'll

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Speaker 4: jump into this juicy conversation. Leona Nicole Black is a

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Speaker 4: passionate educator, wellbeing advocate and empathic tarot therapist. She is

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Speaker 4: the author of Terot Therapy Harness the Healing Power of

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Speaker 4: the Deck, a guidebook that explores the use of tarot

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Speaker 4: cars is a tool for self discovery and personal growth.

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Speaker 4: She also specializes in taro andatual studies, engaging popular cultural

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Speaker 4: motives to explore ways that esoteric knowledge can be used

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Speaker 4: to find routes to purposeful living. Leona has been serving

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Speaker 4: as a tarot therapist for over three years and her

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Speaker 4: practice is founded on the belief that divination through tarot

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Speaker 4: and astrology can deepen our understanding of ourselves through accessing

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Speaker 4: the wisdom of the inner spirit, and that we can

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Speaker 4: use this information for fundamental personal transformations toward a more

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Speaker 4: balanced and empowered life. Wow, that sounds so amazing, Leona.

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Speaker 4: Welcome to cultivating her space.

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Speaker 2: He say, thanks for having me.

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Speaker 4: You are so welcome, all the way from the UK.

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Speaker 4: You are so welcome. We're so excited to have you here.

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Speaker 2: Thank you. This is actually my first interview with anyone

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Speaker 2: that's sozard Bande.

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Speaker 3: So we are going to jump into our quote of

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Speaker 3: the day. And Leona, you will recognize this quote because

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Speaker 3: you know we've been doing.

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Speaker 1: Our research and we read your book.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so the quote comes from the book. We will

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Speaker 3: leon you with that quote, we're already, like you already

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Speaker 3: the gems you have to offer. So when you hear

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Speaker 2: I think you asked me this question at a very

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Speaker 2: interesting time. It feels sensitive and warm. When I wrote

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Speaker 2: you are in the same place at a higher level, right,

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Speaker 2: You're in the same place at a different vibration, so

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Speaker 4: dive in. It kind of reminds me Leona of you

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Speaker 4: know how when you had to take like algebra in school,

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Speaker 4: the same fundamentals, but you're like, yeah, this is familiar.

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Speaker 4: can we just I have I got three part question

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Speaker 4: Like what is it? How does it work? And then

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Speaker 4: and can we address the elephant in the room before

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Speaker 2: Great for me. Let me just get the chata.

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Speaker 2: So, like you, I'm churched. I grew up in Pensacostal

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Speaker 2: Black Church, super religious, baptized every ministry you could possibly

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Speaker 2: course was talk growing up that Tara was like a

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Speaker 2: form of witchcraft or you know, you don't go to soothsayers,

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Speaker 2: You know, he sits in a divine space and communes

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Speaker 2: to be. You can absolutely use it as a wellness.

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Speaker 2: Too many people do, and ultimately that's how I started

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Speaker 3: Thank you, Yes, thank you so much for that explanation.

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Speaker 4: That is so exciting. I feel like I could listen

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Speaker 4: But one of the things that we notice is that

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Speaker 4: And so what are some of the other misconceptions or

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Speaker 2: I don't it's really interesting. I'm not sure, but there

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Speaker 3: That makes perfect sense, yes, yes, and I can appreciate that.

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Speaker 2: And I think it's a good question because you have

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Speaker 2: the questions of whether this is a good person to

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Speaker 2: get reading from in general, and then you also have

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Speaker 2: another area that's happening on social media. There's a lot

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Speaker 2: of scamming, you know, So I have sometimes people impersonating

437
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Speaker 2: me on Instagram and you know, it happens so much. Yeah,

438
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Speaker 2: for spiritualists, they and astrologers too. Actually they really target

439
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Speaker 2: people by creating fake accounts and then messaging them and

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Speaker 2: saying I'd like to reach out to you for a reading.

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Speaker 2: And you know that person feels so like you know,

442
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Speaker 2: imagine that they look up to you or and they're like,

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Speaker 2: oh my gosh, this person's reached out to me, and

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Speaker 2: you know, it's very sicken into me because it really

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Speaker 2: praised them on the pure hearted and the vulnerable. So

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Speaker 2: I mean, starting there, like I think you should all

447
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Speaker 2: be dubious if someone is coming into your DMS and

448
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Speaker 2: offering you a reading, particularly if they're saying to you

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Speaker 2: that your ancestors sent them. No, like, if your ancestors

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Speaker 2: want to get a message to you, they can do that,

451
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Speaker 2: and they can also prompt you to go and find somebody.

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Speaker 2: But someone out of the blue that's talking to your

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Speaker 2: ancestors and you're not, I would really really question that,

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Speaker 2: how did my ancestors even find you? So let's start there.

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Speaker 2: So soliciting you for readings, I think is something you

456
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Speaker 2: should always like be cautious about, always being double checking.

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Speaker 2: It can be quite gratifying for the ego for you

458
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Speaker 2: to be contacted by, you know, someone who's an influencer

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Speaker 2: or d celebrity and you think are great. So there's that,

460
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Speaker 2: And then the other thing I think is you want

461
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Speaker 2: to substantiate that the person they may be a genuine

462
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Speaker 2: entire reader, but you want to substantiate that this is

463
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Speaker 2: the right person for you to be working with. And

464
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Speaker 2: the thing is you have people who are you know,

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Speaker 2: dishonest in the space, who see it as a way

466
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Speaker 2: to get money quickly, you know, who see a YouTube

467
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Speaker 2: space or the Tico space and often because I'm a reader,

468
00:26:03,880 --> 00:26:06,960
Speaker 2: you'll see people like poor cards and display cards and

469
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Speaker 2: give a message that's completely the opposite of what the

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Speaker 2: card says. But if you're not familiar with Tower, you

471
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Speaker 2: might not know that you know, And we talk about

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Speaker 2: this a lot as readers of like, it just has

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Speaker 2: no possible way to mean that. I know, we say

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Speaker 2: it's symbolic, but you know, when you pull the death card,

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Speaker 2: it doesn't mean that this person is desperately dying of

476
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Speaker 2: love for you, right like, that's not it's not the intipretation.

477
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Speaker 2: There are so many other cards in the deck that

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Speaker 2: can express you know, love and affection and intimacy. The

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Speaker 2: death card is not going to be the one to

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Speaker 2: come out and say that there's that. So I feel like,

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Speaker 2: you know, there are people who are doing reasons and

482
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Speaker 2: are very disingenuous. But my advice for getting a good

483
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Speaker 2: reading with a good reader is community. You should not

484
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Speaker 2: look at a Tower reading like it's like an e

485
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Speaker 2: commerce website or shoprofi, right like, you don't want to.

486
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Speaker 2: You don't want it to be like how you go

487
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Speaker 2: out and buy your coffee. It is not that you

488
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Speaker 2: are allowing yourself to be read to be intimately experienced

489
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Speaker 2: with somebody and you're taking counsel advice from them, which

490
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Speaker 2: even if you decide to do you want to discard it.

491
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Speaker 2: It's already entered your consciousness in some way, right, Like

492
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Speaker 2: it's going to engage with you, and I just think

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Speaker 2: it's a very sacred thing. And growing up in the church,

494
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Speaker 2: I really believe in safeguarding myself around the sorts of

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Speaker 2: people I let speak into my life, right like, don't

496
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Speaker 2: come and put your words on me. So my advice

497
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Speaker 2: is that you need to really be in community with

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Speaker 2: people now. A lot of the time that's going to

499
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Speaker 2: be maybe long distance or digital. But you want to

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Speaker 2: take some time to watch this person at work. Okay,

501
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Speaker 2: you want to see let me like what your readings

502
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Speaker 2: over a period of time. Let me see how you're

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Speaker 2: engaging with other people. What are other people are, what

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00:27:57,880 --> 00:28:00,880
Speaker 2: the testimonials the character references that you have from people

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Speaker 2: who are getting readings with you? And also what kind

506
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Speaker 2: of community do you belong to in terms of the

507
00:28:06,359 --> 00:28:10,480
Speaker 2: space itself? Are there other people who I respect and

508
00:28:11,440 --> 00:28:14,720
Speaker 2: enjoy engaging with you you are also connected to because

509
00:28:14,720 --> 00:28:17,240
Speaker 2: that then says that you're also an individual who Foster's

510
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Speaker 2: healthy relationships with other spiritualists. So if for me, that's

511
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Speaker 2: a big sign because also we're talking about both accountability.

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Speaker 2: If you have an issue, you may need to bring

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Speaker 2: someone in to resolve something, and that's never happened to me,

514
00:28:32,359 --> 00:28:36,320
Speaker 2: but I've seen that happen, and also growth and development,

515
00:28:36,640 --> 00:28:39,680
Speaker 2: Like we grow in community with others. I growth from

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Speaker 2: loving and learning, you know, with my sisters and just

517
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Speaker 2: being like you know, wow, like what's happening in your life,

518
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Speaker 2: What's happened in my life? What are the spiritual lessons here?

519
00:28:49,200 --> 00:28:51,800
Speaker 2: Like we do so much development together, So you want

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Speaker 2: to be looking for people who you can see actively

521
00:28:54,320 --> 00:28:57,880
Speaker 2: learning and growing, and that's one of the first indications

522
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Speaker 2: that this might be a person who is like work

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Speaker 2: of even speaking words over you. And then you want

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Speaker 2: to get a little bit more specific. We all have

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Speaker 2: different specialisms or different kind of like ways we approach

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Speaker 2: the art. So without going on too long, I'll just

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Speaker 2: say for me, one of the things that people often

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Speaker 2: say about my practice specifically is that it is deeply

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Speaker 2: loving and compassionate, and that's important to me. You know,

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Speaker 2: that kind of nurturing, giving people like a loving experience

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Speaker 2: no matter what the message is like, you need to

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Speaker 2: leave feeling supported. You need to leave with tools, even

533
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Speaker 2: if I've said to you that this is a difficult

534
00:29:37,240 --> 00:29:40,320
Speaker 2: period of time or there's a challenging choice you need

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00:29:40,360 --> 00:29:42,720
Speaker 2: to make, you need to leave with the tools to

536
00:29:42,920 --> 00:29:46,680
Speaker 2: make that choice and to feel seen and heard and loved.

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Speaker 2: And so when people say that that is they get

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Speaker 2: the message, but they get it with that energy. To me,

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Speaker 2: that is a it defines my practice. It's something that

540
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Speaker 2: kind of marks me. Some people really enjoy more or

541
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Speaker 2: kind of abrasive approach, right because it can be playful.

542
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Speaker 2: Some people like to be kind of harshly spoken to,

543
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Speaker 2: and I'm not that person. Like you know, I'm gonna

544
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Speaker 2: give you the message straight. I'm not gonna sugarcoat it,

545
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Speaker 2: but we're gonna laugh, right, we may even you may

546
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Speaker 2: often cry. I'm going to give you that compassion. But

547
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Speaker 2: if you don't want that, there are other readers who

548
00:30:20,920 --> 00:30:23,840
Speaker 2: don't want to do the handholding. Right, they're gonna go, bam,

549
00:30:23,920 --> 00:30:25,400
Speaker 2: bam bam, this is what you need to go and

550
00:30:26,160 --> 00:30:28,360
Speaker 2: you might be like, thank you very much, got the lesson.

551
00:30:28,680 --> 00:30:31,880
Speaker 2: I'm onto the next thing. So also just recognizing that

552
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Speaker 2: we all have different styles and personalities, and that factors

553
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Speaker 2: in just as much, because it's not just what's said

554
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Speaker 2: to you, but the spirit and the way that it's said.

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Speaker 2: And you need to find people that can tell you

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Speaker 2: a message but doesn't leave you on the floor afterwards.

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Speaker 4: Hi, lady, have you ever been listening to the podcast

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Speaker 4: authentic sisterhood energy to you in real life.

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Speaker 4: So lady, if you're listening, make sure you're taking your

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Speaker 4: notes on how to find the right person to get

577
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Speaker 4: your reading from. That was so beautiful, Leona. We have

578
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Speaker 4: so many more questions for you, but we want to

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Speaker 4: shift up the energy a little bit and we're gonna

580
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Speaker 4: dive into our next segment here. So Leona, because we recognize, appreciate,

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Speaker 4: and celebrate the multifaceted woman, and we believe that it's

582
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Speaker 4: okay to be bougie and classy and ratchet and you

583
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Speaker 4: can still be elegant and dance to strip club music

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Speaker 4: if you so choose, we want to invite that's right,

585
00:32:32,440 --> 00:32:34,880
Speaker 4: you already know, you already know. So we want to

586
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Speaker 4: invite you to the oh you blatchet segment Boogie classy ratchet?

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Speaker 4: Do you take on the challenge?

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Speaker 2: I take on the challenge?

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Speaker 3: All right?

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Speaker 4: We got it, Dom, we got it. So what we're

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Speaker 4: gonna do, Leona. We're gonna ask you three questions. We're

592
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Speaker 4: going to share three sentence completions, and then we have

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Speaker 4: three photos of you pulled up on the big screen

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Speaker 4: that we're going to share with you at the end,

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Speaker 4: and we want you to choose one photo out of

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Speaker 4: the photos give us more context about the photo.

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Speaker 2: So I love it.

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Speaker 4: We're going to dive on into the questions. So the

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Speaker 4: first question for you is what is the sexiest item

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Speaker 4: you own?

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Speaker 7: Oh?

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Speaker 2: I like that. I am lingerie as day where girl

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Speaker 2: like love it. Sometimes my friends will meet it. Some

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Speaker 2: tower like love it. That's what that's one vibe. So

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Speaker 2: say I have a really nice green neglige, but I

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Speaker 2: think it's gorgeous and I love to be in it.

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Speaker 4: We love it for You's.

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Speaker 3: Okay, all right? Our next question I have four words

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Speaker 3: for you, twerk or two still.

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Speaker 2: Oh I am a wannabe twer, but an actual two stepar.

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Speaker 3: Like that.

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Speaker 4: I like that.

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Speaker 2: Wrong we can build up to it, we can build

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Speaker 2: out to it.

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Speaker 4: I ain't not wrong with that. We'd love it. We

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Speaker 4: love it. Our last question for you, Leonna, is what's

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Speaker 4: the best piece of wisdom or advice you've ever received?

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Speaker 2: Believe yourself? And I just want to expand on that

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Speaker 2: a little bit because I think, especially if for a

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Speaker 2: person like me who's had to take big leaps of

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Speaker 2: faith has gone in directions where there's been a little

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Speaker 2: support or validation. At the time I was doing it,

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Speaker 2: lots of self doubt, lots of you know, am I

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Speaker 2: seeing myself clearly? Am I seeing the world clearly? And

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Speaker 2: at this point in my life, I am realizing that

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Speaker 2: I am a really clear tool for perceiving and seeing

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Speaker 2: and understanding. And if I sense it or feel something,

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Speaker 2: I can believe myself about that. I don't have to

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Speaker 2: double check and be like, oh, maybe I'm wrong, because no,

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Speaker 2: if I feel something inside, it's okay for me to

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Speaker 2: say I believe myself about that. And I think if

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Speaker 2: I'd known that at sixteen, my life would have been

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Speaker 2: very different.

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Speaker 3: Oh, I can understand that, and I'm sure lots of

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Speaker 3: other folks can resonate with that too. And so now

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Speaker 3: we're going to go onto our sentence completion. One topic

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Speaker 3: or question I wish people asked me about more often is.

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Speaker 2: I think if I'm being honest. It's something that I

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Speaker 2: guarded the most and was the hardest for me to

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Speaker 2: write about in my book, which was chapter five, and

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Speaker 2: the love experiences that I'd had and the really deep,

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Speaker 2: deep grief and heart breakover many years, and I don't

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Speaker 2: think i've ever really the book was reading the first

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Speaker 2: time I told the world, and I haven't spoken badly

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Speaker 2: about it. So maybe that, I think is one of

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Speaker 2: the things that I'm ready to be asked about now.

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Speaker 2: That is so beautiful.

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Speaker 3: I will say I appreciate you sharing that, because as

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Speaker 3: I was reading it, I actually shared a few tears

650
00:35:51,560 --> 00:35:55,160
Speaker 3: because I felt like I was with you in those moments.

651
00:35:55,719 --> 00:35:59,360
Speaker 2: Thank you for saying that. It was so odd for

652
00:35:59,400 --> 00:36:00,960
Speaker 2: me to put it in the books. I was so

653
00:36:01,120 --> 00:36:04,360
Speaker 2: used to God in myself, so it just it feels

654
00:36:04,400 --> 00:36:07,479
Speaker 2: like a release to let that part of me show.

655
00:36:07,719 --> 00:36:12,720
Speaker 4: For sure, we appreciate you, Leona, your transparency and vulnerability,

656
00:36:13,160 --> 00:36:16,000
Speaker 4: and we do want to hold space for you because

657
00:36:16,040 --> 00:36:17,520
Speaker 4: you said this is something that you like to share

658
00:36:17,640 --> 00:36:20,520
Speaker 4: more about and so funny enough, the next sentence completion,

659
00:36:20,640 --> 00:36:23,839
Speaker 4: here is something I wanted to share about my love

660
00:36:23,880 --> 00:36:24,959
Speaker 4: experience is.

661
00:36:25,800 --> 00:36:34,280
Speaker 2: Oh, what a timely question. I have realized that I

662
00:36:34,280 --> 00:36:37,560
Speaker 2: I'm not a wife. I'm an initiation. That's what I

663
00:36:37,960 --> 00:36:41,600
Speaker 2: have really understood about my love experience. And that's not

664
00:36:41,600 --> 00:36:44,120
Speaker 2: to say that I'll never be married, but I have

665
00:36:44,800 --> 00:36:47,520
Speaker 2: studied the pattern of my life. Now enough to understand

666
00:36:48,080 --> 00:36:51,080
Speaker 2: that in a romantic sense, when people meet me, they're

667
00:36:51,160 --> 00:36:55,160
Speaker 2: meeting me at a very very pivotal moment in their life,

668
00:36:55,200 --> 00:36:59,319
Speaker 2: and they're normally in darkness, and it's like their soul

669
00:36:59,400 --> 00:37:03,960
Speaker 2: calls me in to lovingly support them out, because I

670
00:37:04,760 --> 00:37:08,680
Speaker 2: am so familiar with that dark, dark, dark, difficult place

671
00:37:09,080 --> 00:37:11,440
Speaker 2: and the work it took to take me out of that,

672
00:37:12,360 --> 00:37:15,879
Speaker 2: and I've had really difficult love experiences therefore, because I've

673
00:37:15,920 --> 00:37:18,719
Speaker 2: been like wondering, you know, why does it feel like this?

674
00:37:18,840 --> 00:37:21,160
Speaker 2: Why can it be volatile? Why do I tend to

675
00:37:21,160 --> 00:37:21,880
Speaker 2: see their shadow?

676
00:37:22,000 --> 00:37:22,759
Speaker 4: Like why?

677
00:37:22,880 --> 00:37:23,359
Speaker 2: Why? Why?

678
00:37:23,440 --> 00:37:23,640
Speaker 4: Why?

679
00:37:23,680 --> 00:37:26,800
Speaker 2: Why? I'm constantly trying to change my approach, change my approach,

680
00:37:26,880 --> 00:37:30,800
Speaker 2: change my approach, until I realized I'm not doing anything wrong.

681
00:37:30,960 --> 00:37:33,120
Speaker 2: This is the nature of who I am. I meet

682
00:37:33,160 --> 00:37:36,200
Speaker 2: people in their darkness, and if I can accept that,

683
00:37:36,320 --> 00:37:38,640
Speaker 2: then I won't get lost in it. I won't be

684
00:37:38,680 --> 00:37:40,680
Speaker 2: lost there. I won't be like, what's going on? Why

685
00:37:40,719 --> 00:37:45,000
Speaker 2: am I here? I'm like, oh, this is like this

686
00:37:45,080 --> 00:37:48,439
Speaker 2: is the underworld, like where you're looking for the sun,

687
00:37:49,400 --> 00:37:52,359
Speaker 2: and I am it. You know, in some ways I

688
00:37:52,400 --> 00:37:54,959
Speaker 2: am it. You know you're looking for that new day.

689
00:37:55,960 --> 00:37:58,919
Speaker 2: And I think I now trust that process more.

690
00:38:00,480 --> 00:38:05,040
Speaker 3: What a perspective, Yeah, and so I think that their

691
00:38:05,120 --> 00:38:13,480
Speaker 3: perspective lends itself beautifully to our final sentence completion. What

692
00:38:13,600 --> 00:38:16,480
Speaker 3: I love most about myself is.

693
00:38:17,400 --> 00:38:19,239
Speaker 2: The word that first came to me, so I'm going

694
00:38:19,280 --> 00:38:21,560
Speaker 2: to pick it. It was actually resilience, and I think

695
00:38:21,600 --> 00:38:24,120
Speaker 2: I struggled saying it because I was like you, I

696
00:38:24,120 --> 00:38:26,160
Speaker 2: don't know, I want to say that as a black woman, Like,

697
00:38:27,520 --> 00:38:29,880
Speaker 2: I'm not trying to be an eternally strong black woman

698
00:38:29,920 --> 00:38:33,279
Speaker 2: at all. However, that was the truth that came from

699
00:38:33,280 --> 00:38:36,680
Speaker 2: my heart, and I think that it is me wanting

700
00:38:36,719 --> 00:38:41,319
Speaker 2: to recognize that as hard as some periods are, and

701
00:38:41,320 --> 00:38:44,160
Speaker 2: I've experienced the highs and lows of life, even when

702
00:38:44,160 --> 00:38:48,520
Speaker 2: I felt like given up, I am extremely resilient, extremely

703
00:38:48,600 --> 00:38:51,759
Speaker 2: and I don't think I've told myself that maybe this year,

704
00:38:52,080 --> 00:38:55,040
Speaker 2: So thank you for giving me the opportunity to tell

705
00:38:55,040 --> 00:38:55,920
Speaker 2: that to myself.

706
00:38:57,360 --> 00:39:00,839
Speaker 4: Yes, yes, Oh my goodness, this is that fun. Well

707
00:39:00,960 --> 00:39:03,719
Speaker 4: it's about to get even fun. So Leanna, if you

708
00:39:03,719 --> 00:39:05,879
Speaker 4: can choose a number out of one in three, we'd

709
00:39:05,920 --> 00:39:08,600
Speaker 4: love to go ahead and reveal the special photo that

710
00:39:08,640 --> 00:39:10,960
Speaker 4: we have put up on the big screen, and we'll

711
00:39:10,960 --> 00:39:13,960
Speaker 4: give you further instructions once you choose your number.

712
00:39:14,480 --> 00:39:16,520
Speaker 2: Okay, I'm gonna go even number two.

713
00:39:17,280 --> 00:39:19,560
Speaker 4: All right, so get ready, get ready, Lea. We're gonna

714
00:39:19,560 --> 00:39:21,480
Speaker 4: go ahead and share the picture. And some people are

715
00:39:21,480 --> 00:39:23,120
Speaker 4: only going to be listening to the podcast. So if

716
00:39:23,160 --> 00:39:25,520
Speaker 4: you can describe the photo first and then give us

717
00:39:25,520 --> 00:39:27,719
Speaker 4: some context about the photo that we would not know

718
00:39:28,160 --> 00:39:30,440
Speaker 4: just by viewing the photo, the yard who are tuning

719
00:39:30,440 --> 00:39:34,400
Speaker 4: in on Patreon, get ready for this photo. Get ready

720
00:39:34,400 --> 00:39:38,799
Speaker 4: for this photocause this photo is bad. Okay, yeah, get ready,

721
00:39:38,840 --> 00:39:39,800
Speaker 4: it's coming. It's coming.

722
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Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, oh I love that picture. Okay. Context.

723
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Speaker 2: So I was actually in Kpe Town, which is the

724
00:39:54,080 --> 00:39:56,360
Speaker 2: city that owns my heart. I was born in London,

725
00:39:56,480 --> 00:39:58,399
Speaker 2: but I feel like my heart lives in Kate Town.

726
00:39:58,440 --> 00:40:01,160
Speaker 2: I spent some time there. It was incredible or and

727
00:40:01,440 --> 00:40:04,440
Speaker 2: on this day in this place, this was one of

728
00:40:04,480 --> 00:40:07,040
Speaker 2: my favorite hotels in it and they upgraded me as

729
00:40:07,080 --> 00:40:09,239
Speaker 2: well to like a luxury apartment. It was just an

730
00:40:09,239 --> 00:40:12,760
Speaker 2: out of the blue blessing and I was just feeling

731
00:40:13,480 --> 00:40:16,879
Speaker 2: so blessed, so loved on, and also at this time

732
00:40:16,960 --> 00:40:20,720
Speaker 2: really wanting to embody my sexuality and then really connect

733
00:40:20,719 --> 00:40:23,200
Speaker 2: with my body more, and so to describe the picture

734
00:40:23,239 --> 00:40:25,839
Speaker 2: for the people who can't see it, I'm actually sat

735
00:40:25,880 --> 00:40:29,160
Speaker 2: on the sofar I have I do actually have underwear on.

736
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Speaker 2: You can't see it. I have a sheer kind of

737
00:40:33,280 --> 00:40:36,200
Speaker 2: like lying green top on. You can see my bran underneath.

738
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Speaker 2: And I've put you know in in the nether regions

739
00:40:40,480 --> 00:40:42,880
Speaker 2: that you can't do too much. But I think that

740
00:40:43,040 --> 00:40:46,360
Speaker 2: was me almost coaxing myself about being playful, wanting to

741
00:40:46,400 --> 00:40:50,160
Speaker 2: express my sensuality and my beauty and being in k

742
00:40:50,719 --> 00:40:53,520
Speaker 2: being in the sun, being in the sea. Being also

743
00:40:53,880 --> 00:40:57,120
Speaker 2: in a black majority country, you know, growing up in

744
00:40:57,160 --> 00:40:59,600
Speaker 2: a minority space, you just don't get to be in

745
00:40:59,640 --> 00:41:02,239
Speaker 2: your boy and an affirming way day to day like that.

746
00:41:02,840 --> 00:41:06,080
Speaker 2: So being in a space where everywhere I went with

747
00:41:06,120 --> 00:41:09,520
Speaker 2: black people, it just let me settle into myself. And

748
00:41:09,560 --> 00:41:12,440
Speaker 2: so like I lit up seeing that picture, like seeing

749
00:41:12,480 --> 00:41:14,640
Speaker 2: me like that just like warmed my heart. So what

750
00:41:14,840 --> 00:41:15,560
Speaker 2: great selection.

751
00:41:16,600 --> 00:41:20,320
Speaker 4: Yes, I loved that with a great picture, great description,

752
00:41:20,440 --> 00:41:23,240
Speaker 4: and over a few in context. We appreciate you playing

753
00:41:23,320 --> 00:41:25,840
Speaker 4: along with us in the old blatchet segment. But we

754
00:41:25,920 --> 00:41:29,160
Speaker 4: have more questions for you, Leona. Oh, we do. We

755
00:41:29,239 --> 00:41:32,359
Speaker 4: have more questions. But do you have Tarot cards with

756
00:41:32,400 --> 00:41:34,759
Speaker 4: you now? Is that a silly question? And could we

757
00:41:34,800 --> 00:41:35,960
Speaker 4: pull some as that possible?

758
00:41:36,040 --> 00:41:38,520
Speaker 2: I do have terror when I was like already something

759
00:41:38,560 --> 00:41:40,320
Speaker 2: and he was like just grab a deck.

760
00:41:40,440 --> 00:41:44,879
Speaker 4: Like just yes, I don't know if DOAM is down,

761
00:41:44,960 --> 00:41:47,200
Speaker 4: but I wanted to know. Is it possible for us

762
00:41:47,239 --> 00:41:49,719
Speaker 4: to do a general reading for those that are listening

763
00:41:49,760 --> 00:41:51,480
Speaker 4: to the audience. I would love to get a personal

764
00:41:51,520 --> 00:41:53,839
Speaker 4: reading to see what comes through, and then we can

765
00:41:53,880 --> 00:41:55,480
Speaker 4: go from there and see what if Don wants to

766
00:41:55,520 --> 00:41:58,000
Speaker 4: And we can always edit this out if it's too personal,

767
00:41:58,040 --> 00:42:01,280
Speaker 4: so you can go all in when you do my cards.

768
00:42:03,480 --> 00:42:05,520
Speaker 2: Okay, So what I like to do when I do

769
00:42:05,600 --> 00:42:08,560
Speaker 2: this practice as I ask everyone, so including you listeners,

770
00:42:08,960 --> 00:42:11,640
Speaker 2: to just drop into some nice deep breaths, you know,

771
00:42:11,719 --> 00:42:14,239
Speaker 2: set your energy down. I don't want you to be

772
00:42:14,280 --> 00:42:17,680
Speaker 2: really tense and nervous, just really like relaxed and connected.

773
00:42:17,760 --> 00:42:22,120
Speaker 2: I'll do the same. I am shuffling some cards at

774
00:42:22,120 --> 00:42:25,000
Speaker 2: the moment, and I do like to just say a

775
00:42:25,120 --> 00:42:29,719
Speaker 2: short prayer of blessing and protection and thanksgiving. Thank you

776
00:42:29,960 --> 00:42:34,040
Speaker 2: divine spirit for allowing me to connect with this particular audience,

777
00:42:34,040 --> 00:42:38,120
Speaker 2: to connect with these beautiful hosts. Please let this be edifying.

778
00:42:39,320 --> 00:42:42,600
Speaker 2: Let these messages be uplifting, and I'm precise and like

779
00:42:43,320 --> 00:42:46,800
Speaker 2: a target hit in the hearts that it needs to. Okay,

780
00:42:46,840 --> 00:42:50,040
Speaker 2: So I've got the general audience listening, I feel guided

781
00:42:50,080 --> 00:42:52,760
Speaker 2: to ask the cards, actually, what is it you're wanting

782
00:42:52,880 --> 00:42:56,239
Speaker 2: to know? The general collective, so we have you won't

783
00:42:56,239 --> 00:42:58,480
Speaker 2: be able to see what maybe people watch it on

784
00:42:58,520 --> 00:43:01,959
Speaker 2: patron can. The Queen of Cups is the first card out.

785
00:43:02,120 --> 00:43:04,160
Speaker 2: I'll describe and talk about them when i've got them

786
00:43:04,160 --> 00:43:07,720
Speaker 2: all out. The Eight of Cups is the next card out,

787
00:43:08,520 --> 00:43:11,640
Speaker 2: and then the Five of Cups. So the first thing

788
00:43:11,760 --> 00:43:15,000
Speaker 2: that strikes me is that there are four suits in

789
00:43:15,000 --> 00:43:22,440
Speaker 2: a tower of cups, Wands, pentacles, and swords which reflect fire, earthear,

790
00:43:23,120 --> 00:43:26,720
Speaker 2: and water. And you've got three cards that are all water,

791
00:43:26,920 --> 00:43:31,200
Speaker 2: none of the other elements. So this group, this community

792
00:43:31,239 --> 00:43:33,759
Speaker 2: that you all are serving, the community you're listening in.

793
00:43:34,239 --> 00:43:38,239
Speaker 2: You're definitely in a deeply emotional space right now. You

794
00:43:38,239 --> 00:43:42,680
Speaker 2: are very connected to your feeling space. It's the main

795
00:43:42,920 --> 00:43:44,680
Speaker 2: thing coming up, and it's the main thing you have

796
00:43:44,840 --> 00:43:48,520
Speaker 2: questions around. I'm actually feeling and seeing the energy of

797
00:43:48,680 --> 00:43:54,240
Speaker 2: deep dissatisfaction as like a core experience here. It feels

798
00:43:54,280 --> 00:43:56,759
Speaker 2: like Borden, and I feel like this is also a

799
00:43:56,800 --> 00:44:00,560
Speaker 2: group that is grateful. You're not dissatisfied because you don't

800
00:44:00,600 --> 00:44:04,279
Speaker 2: have anything. It's not that there's like a profound lack.

801
00:44:04,480 --> 00:44:07,360
Speaker 2: I don't see cards here that are like, there's nothing,

802
00:44:07,400 --> 00:44:09,480
Speaker 2: I'm in a wasteland. You know, it doesn't it doesn't

803
00:44:09,480 --> 00:44:11,960
Speaker 2: seem like that. But it seems like some of you

804
00:44:12,040 --> 00:44:16,960
Speaker 2: are settled in certain ways that it no longer feels expansive.

805
00:44:17,000 --> 00:44:19,279
Speaker 2: It no longer is enough to wake you up in

806
00:44:19,320 --> 00:44:21,480
Speaker 2: the morning. That's what it feels like. You're going to

807
00:44:21,560 --> 00:44:24,040
Speaker 2: do it because you're going to handle your responsibilities, but

808
00:44:24,080 --> 00:44:28,440
Speaker 2: you don't necessarily wake up with that that excitement that first,

809
00:44:28,440 --> 00:44:31,480
Speaker 2: that hunger. And even if I go back to these cards,

810
00:44:31,560 --> 00:44:33,560
Speaker 2: that eight of Cups is about a card about going

811
00:44:33,600 --> 00:44:36,920
Speaker 2: on a journey, leaving something behind in the front of

812
00:44:36,960 --> 00:44:40,239
Speaker 2: these cards, there's cups in the foreground that he has

813
00:44:40,280 --> 00:44:42,600
Speaker 2: accumulated over time. Like I said, you're not a group

814
00:44:42,640 --> 00:44:46,000
Speaker 2: that has nothing. You have things. But he's like, and

815
00:44:46,120 --> 00:44:50,920
Speaker 2: yet still there's something else calling there's a deeper hunger

816
00:44:50,960 --> 00:44:54,200
Speaker 2: inside me. And in this particular depiction, he's like drinking

817
00:44:54,239 --> 00:44:57,040
Speaker 2: from a cup. He's getting ready to have his last

818
00:44:57,120 --> 00:44:59,920
Speaker 2: you know, fulfillment of what exists now and he's going

819
00:45:00,280 --> 00:45:03,799
Speaker 2: to venture onto the new. And the next card you

820
00:45:03,880 --> 00:45:06,439
Speaker 2: have this five of cups. This card is about looking

821
00:45:06,520 --> 00:45:09,520
Speaker 2: at the past. It can be about regret, brief sorrow.

822
00:45:10,200 --> 00:45:13,520
Speaker 2: And he's looking at two spilled cups in this card

823
00:45:13,920 --> 00:45:17,600
Speaker 2: and he's just like, oh, like the things I had,

824
00:45:17,840 --> 00:45:20,120
Speaker 2: there are things in that I wanted, you know, there

825
00:45:20,120 --> 00:45:24,080
Speaker 2: are relationships I wanted, there are places I wanted to be,

826
00:45:24,200 --> 00:45:26,719
Speaker 2: there are jobs I wanted to have, and he's looking

827
00:45:26,760 --> 00:45:29,080
Speaker 2: at how they didn't pan out right, the cups are

828
00:45:29,160 --> 00:45:31,600
Speaker 2: knocked over. I think this is really interesting too because

829
00:45:31,640 --> 00:45:34,239
Speaker 2: I listened to your last episode and like this is

830
00:45:34,480 --> 00:45:37,600
Speaker 2: it just really bridges in. I feel like the community

831
00:45:37,640 --> 00:45:40,799
Speaker 2: you serve are really thinking about that last message, really

832
00:45:40,840 --> 00:45:42,920
Speaker 2: thinking about this. I didn't land where I thought I

833
00:45:42,960 --> 00:45:46,120
Speaker 2: would energy. But the message of this card is that

834
00:45:46,160 --> 00:45:49,160
Speaker 2: there are always other cups upstanding right like that you're

835
00:45:49,239 --> 00:45:52,200
Speaker 2: focused on them that you don't have, and there is more.

836
00:45:52,280 --> 00:45:55,200
Speaker 2: And it's not to say therefore, be grateful, you know,

837
00:45:55,280 --> 00:45:57,960
Speaker 2: and stop like to stop complaining, that's not the message,

838
00:45:58,280 --> 00:46:01,879
Speaker 2: but it's to recognize that you're sadness, your heaviness, your

839
00:46:01,960 --> 00:46:06,120
Speaker 2: lack of motivation, your emotional sensitivity, whatever is coming up

840
00:46:06,120 --> 00:46:08,799
Speaker 2: in the feeling space for you right now. It's saying

841
00:46:08,880 --> 00:46:12,040
Speaker 2: to you want more, and it's okay. It's actually okay.

842
00:46:12,040 --> 00:46:14,680
Speaker 2: It's not wrong, it's not greedy, it's not you know,

843
00:46:14,840 --> 00:46:19,400
Speaker 2: you need to let yourself accept that you're not happy

844
00:46:19,520 --> 00:46:23,600
Speaker 2: or not satisfied. And it doesn't make you selfish for

845
00:46:23,680 --> 00:46:26,880
Speaker 2: saying that. You know, some of you have beautiful blessings.

846
00:46:26,880 --> 00:46:29,320
Speaker 2: You may have a gorgeous home, you may have a partner,

847
00:46:29,360 --> 00:46:31,279
Speaker 2: you may have things that other people you feel are

848
00:46:31,320 --> 00:46:37,640
Speaker 2: praying and dreaming and begging for, and yet you're not satisfied,

849
00:46:38,160 --> 00:46:40,680
Speaker 2: and that is okay. You may have even just had

850
00:46:40,719 --> 00:46:42,319
Speaker 2: a win. Some of you have just got a new job.

851
00:46:42,400 --> 00:46:45,120
Speaker 2: Is the energy that I heard. So you've just like

852
00:46:45,560 --> 00:46:48,880
Speaker 2: you've just got your dream job and you don't feel happy.

853
00:46:49,120 --> 00:46:52,279
Speaker 2: You're just like, this was supposed to be the thing

854
00:46:52,760 --> 00:46:56,000
Speaker 2: that was going to change my life and bring that joy,

855
00:46:56,040 --> 00:47:00,279
Speaker 2: and it hasn't. And the message is that anytime you

856
00:47:00,320 --> 00:47:04,440
Speaker 2: have a hunger and hunger for more, you are allowed

857
00:47:04,480 --> 00:47:08,640
Speaker 2: to pursue it. That's what this community needs to hear

858
00:47:09,000 --> 00:47:11,040
Speaker 2: you don't have to stay where you are because you

859
00:47:11,120 --> 00:47:15,400
Speaker 2: have so much, it is not wrong to go for more.

860
00:47:15,760 --> 00:47:18,960
Speaker 2: And I feel like there's some messaging here from family members.

861
00:47:19,320 --> 00:47:22,720
Speaker 2: Some of you have outpaced family members in many different

862
00:47:22,719 --> 00:47:25,239
Speaker 2: areas of your lives, and so they feel what they

863
00:47:25,280 --> 00:47:28,160
Speaker 2: project onto you is they say, look, how well you're doing.

864
00:47:28,320 --> 00:47:29,560
Speaker 2: Isn't aren't you satisfied?

865
00:47:29,680 --> 00:47:29,879
Speaker 3: Yet?

866
00:47:30,000 --> 00:47:33,240
Speaker 2: You know that they give you this. Shouldn't you stop striving?

867
00:47:33,239 --> 00:47:37,120
Speaker 2: Shouldn't you be settled enough of what you have? And

868
00:47:37,120 --> 00:47:39,439
Speaker 2: some of you are making yourself small and saying, yeah,

869
00:47:39,440 --> 00:47:43,319
Speaker 2: it's true, like I'm really blessed. But God or the

870
00:47:43,360 --> 00:47:45,799
Speaker 2: divine sources, whoever you believe in, is saying there is

871
00:47:45,880 --> 00:47:48,160
Speaker 2: no cap on the blessings I want to give you.

872
00:47:48,680 --> 00:47:52,960
Speaker 2: There's no top ceiling. If you desire more, there's more.

873
00:47:53,480 --> 00:47:56,080
Speaker 2: If you want more, there's more. And that allows you

874
00:47:56,160 --> 00:47:58,840
Speaker 2: to be content when you truly are, because it means that, right,

875
00:47:58,920 --> 00:48:00,839
Speaker 2: it could be a season and you're like, I am

876
00:48:00,880 --> 00:48:04,560
Speaker 2: deeply satisfied. I'm not as beautiful. But in the seasons

877
00:48:04,560 --> 00:48:09,680
Speaker 2: where you're like I feel an actual call, don't ignore it.

878
00:48:10,040 --> 00:48:14,480
Speaker 2: So that's what you're all needed permission to say, I

879
00:48:14,520 --> 00:48:16,200
Speaker 2: want I'm wanting more than this.

880
00:48:17,880 --> 00:48:23,960
Speaker 4: Oh so that was a whole word, Pastor Leona, can

881
00:48:24,000 --> 00:48:34,760
Speaker 4: you pass the offering? Yes, yes, it was amazing lady.

882
00:48:35,120 --> 00:48:38,480
Speaker 3: As you are listening, I hope you really receive that word.

883
00:48:38,800 --> 00:48:42,440
Speaker 3: You might need to press rewinds now once but twice,

884
00:48:42,480 --> 00:48:46,480
Speaker 3: maybe three times to make sure you really sit with

885
00:48:46,680 --> 00:48:53,040
Speaker 3: that reading and really reflect on where you are in

886
00:48:53,120 --> 00:48:54,120
Speaker 3: life right now.

887
00:48:54,840 --> 00:48:59,560
Speaker 2: Oh I love it. Okay, Terry, you wanted something personal.

888
00:49:01,719 --> 00:49:03,880
Speaker 2: Do you know your sun sign? Your zodiac sign?

889
00:49:04,640 --> 00:49:06,560
Speaker 4: My sun sign is this Sagittarius.

890
00:49:07,000 --> 00:49:11,600
Speaker 2: You're sad. I have so many Sagittarist people in my life.

891
00:49:11,719 --> 00:49:14,399
Speaker 2: They flocked to me. Honestly. We have a running jokes

892
00:49:14,440 --> 00:49:14,799
Speaker 2: about it.

893
00:49:16,600 --> 00:49:18,680
Speaker 4: And cancerizing me too.

894
00:49:18,719 --> 00:49:25,440
Speaker 2: I'm also sizing emotion, very emotional. Do you understand that caring,

895
00:49:25,719 --> 00:49:31,520
Speaker 2: nurturing approach that I take to reading energy? For sure? Okay,

896
00:49:31,560 --> 00:49:33,160
Speaker 2: do some deep reat for me, Terry, like to get

897
00:49:33,200 --> 00:49:35,920
Speaker 2: into I don't feel to ask you any questions. Sometimes

898
00:49:35,960 --> 00:49:38,440
Speaker 2: I would, but for you, it feels like it should

899
00:49:38,480 --> 00:49:41,480
Speaker 2: just be open. Okay, let's have a look. Best card,

900
00:49:43,520 --> 00:49:48,400
Speaker 2: it's the Sagittarius card. Like that I was shopling ons

901
00:49:48,640 --> 00:49:52,040
Speaker 2: that that is a Sagittarist card. For me, beautiful, what's next?

902
00:49:52,680 --> 00:49:56,360
Speaker 2: As a pentacles, I was hearing it's really interesting. My

903
00:49:56,360 --> 00:49:59,840
Speaker 2: bad which is extremely rusty. U see, it preserves itself

904
00:49:59,840 --> 00:50:02,840
Speaker 2: with several years. I'm definitely hitting. They can't really remember

905
00:50:02,920 --> 00:50:09,759
Speaker 2: much difference. But increase my territory. I think there's a prayer. Bye, Yes,

906
00:50:10,400 --> 00:50:12,680
Speaker 2: there's a profit that it was a prayer by and

907
00:50:12,800 --> 00:50:18,040
Speaker 2: the profit prayed Old Testament profit prayed God increased my territory.

908
00:50:18,040 --> 00:50:21,040
Speaker 2: And that is the message coming for you, Terry. I

909
00:50:21,040 --> 00:50:22,800
Speaker 2: don't know if that's something you've been asking for, but

910
00:50:22,800 --> 00:50:25,640
Speaker 2: it's definitely something you're receiving. This is the message for you.

911
00:50:26,520 --> 00:50:29,120
Speaker 2: That's really really beautiful, and there's a little bit more.

912
00:50:29,120 --> 00:50:30,640
Speaker 2: Hold on. Let's just get the cards out there and

913
00:50:30,640 --> 00:50:35,040
Speaker 2: I'll tell you what I see, I need, I want.

914
00:50:35,560 --> 00:50:37,560
Speaker 2: So I think that's really interesting because I think that

915
00:50:37,680 --> 00:50:43,839
Speaker 2: you are very tapped into desire and it's yeah, it

916
00:50:43,880 --> 00:50:48,640
Speaker 2: feels like that that collective message about going for more deeply, deeply,

917
00:50:48,680 --> 00:50:50,480
Speaker 2: deeply applies to you. Also have the wheel of fortune

918
00:50:50,480 --> 00:50:52,719
Speaker 2: at the bottom, and that way of fortune is about

919
00:50:52,719 --> 00:50:55,720
Speaker 2: a change in circumstances, a change and environment, a change

920
00:50:55,719 --> 00:50:58,799
Speaker 2: in almost I like to see it like I reshuffling

921
00:50:58,880 --> 00:51:01,080
Speaker 2: the board of like the of the board game, being

922
00:51:01,080 --> 00:51:04,359
Speaker 2: given new options, new people, and you know, as someone

923
00:51:04,360 --> 00:51:08,040
Speaker 2: who's a sad son, you really need that. You crave

924
00:51:08,120 --> 00:51:11,719
Speaker 2: that exploration. So the reading here is you've got the

925
00:51:11,760 --> 00:51:13,640
Speaker 2: Knight of Ones and the Ace of Pentaplese, and this

926
00:51:13,719 --> 00:51:18,279
Speaker 2: is showing you seeking out the next being, the next opportunity.

927
00:51:18,520 --> 00:51:21,319
Speaker 2: And I'm hearing specifically the next way to eat. But

928
00:51:21,400 --> 00:51:23,880
Speaker 2: it's not about money, right, Like there may be money

929
00:51:23,880 --> 00:51:25,640
Speaker 2: coming from it, but when I hear the next way

930
00:51:25,680 --> 00:51:28,040
Speaker 2: to eat, it's about calling you to a deeper cent

931
00:51:28,120 --> 00:51:30,240
Speaker 2: of satisfaction. I can feel it in the heart space.

932
00:51:30,560 --> 00:51:33,200
Speaker 2: So also it's saying to you that I love it.

933
00:51:33,200 --> 00:51:35,280
Speaker 2: Because you've got the Knight of Pencacles and ten of Pencacles.

934
00:51:35,320 --> 00:51:38,400
Speaker 2: This is about your abundance and your security. You can

935
00:51:38,440 --> 00:51:41,279
Speaker 2: see there's so many pencacles. It's earth energy. She's in

936
00:51:41,320 --> 00:51:43,879
Speaker 2: her garden and this is in one of these dishards,

937
00:51:43,880 --> 00:51:46,920
Speaker 2: and she is she's accomplished. And then the ten of

938
00:51:46,920 --> 00:51:50,440
Speaker 2: Pencacoles is the expansion how other communities are blessed by

939
00:51:50,480 --> 00:51:54,360
Speaker 2: her accomplishments. That's the energy that you are holding. But

940
00:51:54,400 --> 00:51:59,040
Speaker 2: they're saying to you listen while you pursue the objectives,

941
00:51:59,040 --> 00:52:01,600
Speaker 2: while you pursue the gold, where you get the bag,

942
00:52:02,239 --> 00:52:05,479
Speaker 2: do not be swayed away from responding to the deep

943
00:52:05,600 --> 00:52:07,840
Speaker 2: call and needs of the heart. And I think this

944
00:52:07,960 --> 00:52:10,680
Speaker 2: is also something that can be very tempting for Black women,

945
00:52:10,719 --> 00:52:15,279
Speaker 2: specifically when our emotional needs cancer rising, when that emotional

946
00:52:15,320 --> 00:52:17,480
Speaker 2: need is going unmet, when there are ways in which

947
00:52:17,520 --> 00:52:19,880
Speaker 2: you don't feel able to be satiated. You know what

948
00:52:19,920 --> 00:52:23,600
Speaker 2: we do. We work, We create because that is a

949
00:52:23,600 --> 00:52:25,600
Speaker 2: place where we fell in control. It's a place where

950
00:52:25,600 --> 00:52:27,719
Speaker 2: we have power. It's a place where we can make

951
00:52:27,800 --> 00:52:31,319
Speaker 2: things happen. And the spirit is saying to you, yes,

952
00:52:31,520 --> 00:52:35,200
Speaker 2: you're very, very good at that, but do not build

953
00:52:35,360 --> 00:52:39,799
Speaker 2: and work and create to the detriment of your deep, deep,

954
00:52:39,840 --> 00:52:43,000
Speaker 2: deep satisfaction. The message for you is, don't give up

955
00:52:43,440 --> 00:52:47,839
Speaker 2: on being deeply emotionally satisfied. Don't feel like, you know what,

956
00:52:47,880 --> 00:52:49,920
Speaker 2: I'm never going to get that, So I'm just gonna

957
00:52:50,160 --> 00:52:52,920
Speaker 2: focus on these things. The Night of Swords is here,

958
00:52:52,960 --> 00:52:56,680
Speaker 2: and I've heard relentless pursuit. That's the energy that you

959
00:52:56,760 --> 00:52:59,200
Speaker 2: need to have around the things that you know I

960
00:52:59,239 --> 00:53:02,280
Speaker 2: can I'm feeling energy in my stomach and again eating

961
00:53:02,320 --> 00:53:04,520
Speaker 2: the same and being fed the things. You know, when

962
00:53:04,520 --> 00:53:08,120
Speaker 2: you have a good meal, you know that that we

963
00:53:08,160 --> 00:53:11,640
Speaker 2: don't have Thanksgiving but Christmas Day, like you know, like

964
00:53:12,080 --> 00:53:17,400
Speaker 2: they're saying that full feeling you need that to power

965
00:53:17,440 --> 00:53:20,960
Speaker 2: your heart canters, especially if it's similar to Leo like

966
00:53:21,280 --> 00:53:23,680
Speaker 2: there is a there's an energy that is generated through

967
00:53:23,719 --> 00:53:26,960
Speaker 2: the emotion of the heart space that is needed for life.

968
00:53:27,239 --> 00:53:30,359
Speaker 2: It is needed, and so you can't operate on low

969
00:53:30,400 --> 00:53:33,719
Speaker 2: emotional stimulation. It doesn't matter if you try to, it

970
00:53:33,760 --> 00:53:36,239
Speaker 2: can't carry you far enough. And so the cars that

971
00:53:36,280 --> 00:53:38,920
Speaker 2: you got, Queen of Pentapourse, this is you being that boss,

972
00:53:39,040 --> 00:53:42,480
Speaker 2: being that business woman, being that creator, being that healer,

973
00:53:42,600 --> 00:53:47,120
Speaker 2: that leader, that inspiration. But also you've got the ace

974
00:53:47,160 --> 00:53:50,000
Speaker 2: of cups here, and this ace of cups again the

975
00:53:50,040 --> 00:53:53,640
Speaker 2: water energy right back. It is this cup reminds me

976
00:53:53,680 --> 00:53:55,839
Speaker 2: of the bi biblical scripture that says let my cup

977
00:53:55,920 --> 00:53:59,080
Speaker 2: run if over, because in the imagery you can literally

978
00:53:59,200 --> 00:54:02,680
Speaker 2: see the cup running over, and there's lots of actually

979
00:54:02,960 --> 00:54:07,400
Speaker 2: religious Christian iconography and two cards and the message for

980
00:54:07,520 --> 00:54:12,480
Speaker 2: you is that you need both the earth the accomplishments,

981
00:54:12,719 --> 00:54:16,400
Speaker 2: but your emotional cup must run it over and you

982
00:54:16,719 --> 00:54:19,799
Speaker 2: now in your life must be unapologetic. It feels like

983
00:54:19,800 --> 00:54:22,520
Speaker 2: there are others in your life who maybe support you

984
00:54:22,800 --> 00:54:27,600
Speaker 2: in toning down the emotions or avoiding the emotional roads,

985
00:54:27,719 --> 00:54:29,759
Speaker 2: and you actually need to speak back to that now

986
00:54:29,800 --> 00:54:32,279
Speaker 2: and start saying, you know what. It may look a

987
00:54:32,320 --> 00:54:35,799
Speaker 2: bit crazy, it may not make sense to you, but

988
00:54:35,880 --> 00:54:40,160
Speaker 2: I'm gonna have to pursue certain things for my emotional advancement.

989
00:54:40,239 --> 00:54:42,399
Speaker 2: And you make it hurt sometimes right figuring it out.

990
00:54:42,600 --> 00:54:44,239
Speaker 2: You may be like, oh, I don't know that I

991
00:54:44,360 --> 00:54:48,880
Speaker 2: tried and I felt down. You know that's okay though,

992
00:54:49,280 --> 00:54:53,600
Speaker 2: That's why they said relentless pursuit. Donnie McClerkin. We fall

993
00:54:53,680 --> 00:54:56,440
Speaker 2: down what we get up. That's what you need. That's

994
00:54:56,480 --> 00:54:58,840
Speaker 2: what you need in terms of your emotional regulation and

995
00:54:59,440 --> 00:55:02,839
Speaker 2: how you seek out your emotional satisfaction and fulfillment.

996
00:55:04,320 --> 00:55:07,440
Speaker 4: OMG, that was so powerful. This is confirmation for so

997
00:55:07,480 --> 00:55:09,839
Speaker 4: many things. Dom is very aware of personal things going

998
00:55:09,880 --> 00:55:12,800
Speaker 4: on in my life and she's like, give me eye contact, Like, girl,

999
00:55:13,040 --> 00:55:15,399
Speaker 4: this is good. Thank you so much, Leoona. I need

1000
00:55:15,400 --> 00:55:17,440
Speaker 4: to tell this great thank.

1001
00:55:17,200 --> 00:55:23,080
Speaker 2: You to Dom. Did you want read you do? Yes?

1002
00:55:23,160 --> 00:55:26,080
Speaker 2: I do deep breash for you. I feel like you

1003
00:55:26,080 --> 00:55:28,640
Speaker 2: should ask a question. But before I take your question,

1004
00:55:28,760 --> 00:55:29,920
Speaker 2: what's your zodiac sign?

1005
00:55:30,360 --> 00:55:36,480
Speaker 3: Zodiac sign is Scorpio. Scorpio interesting. I don't know what

1006
00:55:36,600 --> 00:55:39,000
Speaker 3: you gave Capricorn and energy to me. You might have

1007
00:55:39,000 --> 00:55:43,320
Speaker 3: that somewhere in your child, but Scorpio son nice. Okay,

1008
00:55:43,719 --> 00:55:46,480
Speaker 3: do you have a question something you want to know about?

1009
00:55:47,000 --> 00:55:50,439
Speaker 3: There's nothing coming up. There's not a question that's necessarily

1010
00:55:50,480 --> 00:55:51,840
Speaker 3: coming up from me right now.

1011
00:55:52,600 --> 00:55:54,920
Speaker 2: What I'm going to do is I'm gonna ask the question.

1012
00:55:55,040 --> 00:55:57,600
Speaker 2: I'm gonna ask the cards what you need to know

1013
00:55:57,600 --> 00:56:01,279
Speaker 2: because the energy I feel is that you or detailed

1014
00:56:01,920 --> 00:56:04,239
Speaker 2: is more what you need, you need something and more

1015
00:56:04,280 --> 00:56:07,120
Speaker 2: precise towards where I feel like you're a person who

1016
00:56:07,160 --> 00:56:10,640
Speaker 2: needs like the minutie is kind of what I'm hearing.

1017
00:56:11,120 --> 00:56:13,400
Speaker 2: You don't need a big picture, which is why I

1018
00:56:13,480 --> 00:56:16,040
Speaker 2: was like, you have a question, but let me see. Okay,

1019
00:56:16,080 --> 00:56:21,960
Speaker 2: here it is Ace of Ones and the judgment card. Okay,

1020
00:56:22,440 --> 00:56:24,960
Speaker 2: these two cards have come out as what you're needing

1021
00:56:25,000 --> 00:56:28,320
Speaker 2: to know or ask what's inside you? And I would

1022
00:56:28,360 --> 00:56:33,120
Speaker 2: read this combination of cards to be a question of discernment.

1023
00:56:33,560 --> 00:56:36,200
Speaker 2: I'm hearing the question am I on the right track?

1024
00:56:36,320 --> 00:56:39,960
Speaker 2: Actually is like coming from inside you. And like also

1025
00:56:40,000 --> 00:56:43,600
Speaker 2: the question of how do I know, oh this is?

1026
00:56:43,880 --> 00:56:48,000
Speaker 2: This is interesting. It feels like I'm hearing the words

1027
00:56:48,040 --> 00:56:52,200
Speaker 2: what I'm reaching for. It's really interesting that you couldn't

1028
00:56:52,200 --> 00:56:54,400
Speaker 2: ask the question because I actually can feel this kind

1029
00:56:54,440 --> 00:56:58,040
Speaker 2: of like it's unspoken, almost like I feel there's quietness

1030
00:56:58,080 --> 00:57:01,840
Speaker 2: inside my mouth. And so there's something that is really

1031
00:57:01,920 --> 00:57:05,160
Speaker 2: unspoken for you, maybe even not even brought to the

1032
00:57:05,200 --> 00:57:08,200
Speaker 2: surface the conscious level. I feel like there's something there.

1033
00:57:08,320 --> 00:57:12,359
Speaker 2: It's much deeper. It's much deeper, so I can't it's

1034
00:57:12,440 --> 00:57:14,880
Speaker 2: like that I can't articulate it because you've not articulated

1035
00:57:14,920 --> 00:57:17,320
Speaker 2: it to yourself yet. But there's definitely a deep question

1036
00:57:17,400 --> 00:57:21,160
Speaker 2: inside and it's about rereaching for things. You have questions again,

1037
00:57:21,160 --> 00:57:23,920
Speaker 2: So it's very similar energy, but from a different advantage point.

1038
00:57:24,360 --> 00:57:27,360
Speaker 2: I think there's wounds in this community, in this group

1039
00:57:27,800 --> 00:57:30,240
Speaker 2: around striving and going for things. I think that you

1040
00:57:30,360 --> 00:57:34,840
Speaker 2: have been disparaged or just not not being adequately supported.

1041
00:57:34,880 --> 00:57:37,080
Speaker 2: There's just energy of light. There's a lot I can

1042
00:57:37,080 --> 00:57:39,080
Speaker 2: feel it. There's a lot of heaviness on this community

1043
00:57:39,120 --> 00:57:42,560
Speaker 2: around not going further. And I feel like the fur

1044
00:57:42,640 --> 00:57:44,280
Speaker 2: card has come out for you, right this is like

1045
00:57:44,320 --> 00:57:47,160
Speaker 2: a new beginning and new journey. The Tower card and

1046
00:57:47,200 --> 00:57:49,040
Speaker 2: the king of want is interesting. I'll come to that

1047
00:57:49,080 --> 00:57:51,600
Speaker 2: in a second, but yeah, it feels even for you

1048
00:57:51,680 --> 00:57:53,960
Speaker 2: that there is a question of like should you be

1049
00:57:54,040 --> 00:57:57,320
Speaker 2: reaching for the next thing or going for the next level?

1050
00:57:57,600 --> 00:57:59,760
Speaker 2: And how do you discern or asking yourself, how do

1051
00:57:59,800 --> 00:58:02,800
Speaker 2: I discern that the thing that I'm going to say

1052
00:58:02,880 --> 00:58:05,160
Speaker 2: yes to? Because your appetite is very strong, I can

1053
00:58:05,240 --> 00:58:08,040
Speaker 2: feel so you have a very strong sense of like

1054
00:58:08,480 --> 00:58:10,120
Speaker 2: I know what I want, Like I can feel that

1055
00:58:10,200 --> 00:58:12,760
Speaker 2: from you, like you're quite clear on your desires. But

1056
00:58:12,800 --> 00:58:16,880
Speaker 2: there is a deeper question of should I am I

1057
00:58:17,000 --> 00:58:19,320
Speaker 2: right to pursue this? And I'm hearing that at this time

1058
00:58:19,400 --> 00:58:23,160
Speaker 2: as well. There's a timing issue for you here. Let's

1059
00:58:23,200 --> 00:58:24,800
Speaker 2: just have a look because the Tower card has come up,

1060
00:58:24,800 --> 00:58:26,040
Speaker 2: and I'll talk about that, but I just want to

1061
00:58:26,080 --> 00:58:29,520
Speaker 2: check in what that's about. Okay. Yeah, So there's some

1062
00:58:29,560 --> 00:58:31,480
Speaker 2: things for you that if you move in a certain

1063
00:58:31,520 --> 00:58:35,040
Speaker 2: direction before card, there's something you're contemplating or already doing,

1064
00:58:35,080 --> 00:58:38,280
Speaker 2: but it's new and you're you're like, what if they

1065
00:58:38,320 --> 00:58:41,120
Speaker 2: are unexpected or unforeseen things? Is coming up for you

1066
00:58:41,160 --> 00:58:44,600
Speaker 2: here with a Tower card, the tower is upheaval shot surprise,

1067
00:58:44,800 --> 00:58:47,680
Speaker 2: like things that come through that you weren't expecting. And

1068
00:58:47,760 --> 00:58:49,880
Speaker 2: I feel that there's a lot of hesitation for you

1069
00:58:49,960 --> 00:58:52,160
Speaker 2: and also a lot of like I said, details, a

1070
00:58:52,160 --> 00:58:56,400
Speaker 2: lot of planning, trying to avert or worst case scenario

1071
00:58:56,560 --> 00:58:59,480
Speaker 2: everything like and if this happens, like what's my backup plan?

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Speaker 2: And if this depends, like how do I do that?

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Speaker 2: And if this It really feels like that kind of energy.

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00:59:04,600 --> 00:59:07,320
Speaker 2: And also the king of one's hair is you. It's

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00:59:07,360 --> 00:59:10,120
Speaker 2: a masculine card, but it is you. This is you

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00:59:10,240 --> 00:59:15,040
Speaker 2: attempting to be in control and have power over the

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00:59:15,200 --> 00:59:18,640
Speaker 2: outcomes of things in life. That's how to look at

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Speaker 2: the guidance for you. You are where you are meant

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Speaker 2: to be. And I feel very tearful. Oh yeah, so

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Speaker 2: it's really interesting. It doesn't surprise me of Scorpio energy.

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00:59:29,840 --> 00:59:31,640
Speaker 2: You know how I said too that I meet people

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00:59:32,720 --> 00:59:36,360
Speaker 2: in darkness romantically. For me, it's very similar to that,

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00:59:36,520 --> 00:59:39,920
Speaker 2: like the depths of the Scorpio energy. So I'm comfortable

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Speaker 2: with it. But you will notice that your cards are heavier,

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00:59:43,920 --> 00:59:46,880
Speaker 2: I would describe, than Terry's cards are. So you've had

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Speaker 2: like the judgment card a lot of major Acarna's the

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Speaker 2: big themes. You've had the Tower card, one of the

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00:59:52,840 --> 00:59:55,760
Speaker 2: cards that frightens people. You've got the Devil card, another

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00:59:55,800 --> 00:59:59,800
Speaker 2: card that frightens people. So again you've come through with

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00:59:59,880 --> 01:00:02,840
Speaker 2: the like much heavier energy. But like I said, it's

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Speaker 2: because what you're dealing with is subterraneous, almost like it's

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Speaker 2: deeper and subconscious for you. So it's coming through as

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Speaker 2: like archetype more than express language. Even if you even

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Speaker 2: if you watch the film Us by Jordan Peel, you've

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01:00:18,560 --> 01:00:21,920
Speaker 2: seen it, so it's like for you, you know, it's

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Speaker 2: like Lapita's character the Mirrored Family, they were underground and

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Speaker 2: they couldn't speak. Well, that's like the difference, right, It's

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01:00:27,920 --> 01:00:31,320
Speaker 2: like it's so buried that there is it hasn't been

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01:00:31,320 --> 01:00:35,080
Speaker 2: given an articulation, so it's coming out almost like a

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Speaker 2: cracked voice. And that's why the cards look darker, because

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Speaker 2: they're from the basement, if that makes sense. So I mean,

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Speaker 2: hopefully that's helpful to people listening. But the guidance for

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Speaker 2: you actually the message was that you are in the

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Speaker 2: right place, and that is a moving message. It is

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Speaker 2: a moving message, so you will always be in the

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Speaker 2: right place. As long as you are making your job choices,

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Speaker 2: in your decisions from a specific vibrational place in your life.

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Speaker 2: And I feel you you question yourself and asking okay,

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Speaker 2: like you're questioning your decision making. You're trying to validate

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Speaker 2: your decision making, and it is the right process. I

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Speaker 2: just want to help you with the right questions. Okay.

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Speaker 2: So the three things coming up for you are speed,

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01:01:23,600 --> 01:01:26,400
Speaker 2: There's something around in patience here. You seem to be

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Speaker 2: the sort of person who when you get an idea,

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Speaker 2: you want to move like there's that, and then I

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Speaker 2: feel that there's the next card coming up there is

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Speaker 2: you have a very specific vision of success, is what

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Speaker 2: I can see. Like you, you you're very again details,

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Speaker 2: You've got big, big, big details. And then again control.

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Speaker 2: Those are the three the three things coming up for you.

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Speaker 2: And the guidance for you really is that these are

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Speaker 2: actually three areas that you need to experience some release

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Speaker 2: and letting go because if you can one trust the

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Speaker 2: timing of your life so and it's not the external

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Speaker 2: time and of others, it's the internal timing. I want

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Speaker 2: this thing. I'm excited by this thing, I'm passionate by

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Speaker 2: this thing, and I want to move now. But I

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Speaker 2: look around at my environment and I decide is it

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Speaker 2: time to move or not. You need to do that

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Speaker 2: process because I think sometimes you're moving because you think

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Speaker 2: you're going to miss out or you're going to miss

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Speaker 2: the boss. And what they're saying to you spiritually is

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Speaker 2: that that won't happen. Almost that saying what's for you

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Speaker 2: can't miss you. So even if you feel that strong

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01:02:28,640 --> 01:02:32,720
Speaker 2: desire and you want it now, it's okay. If it

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Speaker 2: takes longer, it's not coming. It's just coming under better conditions.

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Speaker 2: And sometimes when you move prematurely, you do get the thing.

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Speaker 2: That's what I see. They're saying, Oh no, she gets it.

1139
01:02:44,560 --> 01:02:46,840
Speaker 2: Like it's not just a problem with getting the thing,

1140
01:02:47,560 --> 01:02:50,400
Speaker 2: but you may not get it under the best conditions.

1141
01:02:50,840 --> 01:02:53,439
Speaker 2: You may be making concessions or having to make deep

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01:02:53,480 --> 01:02:57,000
Speaker 2: alterations in your life for a blessing that came prematurely,

1143
01:02:57,520 --> 01:02:59,120
Speaker 2: you know, and it's like, okay, now I've got a

1144
01:02:59,160 --> 01:03:01,960
Speaker 2: scramble to get things ready for it, and spirits like

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01:03:02,000 --> 01:03:04,480
Speaker 2: it's gonna have to be like that. It can arrive

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Speaker 2: in a time that feels magical to you, that is unburdensome.

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Speaker 2: But it's like in the nick of time. I was

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Speaker 2: just ready for this thing. So there's that, and then

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Speaker 2: the element of control. This is about collaboration, but from

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Speaker 2: the heart space, it just feels like you are needing

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01:03:22,160 --> 01:03:25,200
Speaker 2: you know, I connect with my ancestors and my spirit guys,

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01:03:25,200 --> 01:03:26,960
Speaker 2: and you know, I was really stressed out. And they

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01:03:26,960 --> 01:03:30,040
Speaker 2: said to me, do you think that you carry the

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Speaker 2: world on your shoulders? Do you think you're okay by

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01:03:33,400 --> 01:03:38,120
Speaker 2: your own efforts? And I was like, yes, I did.

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Speaker 2: I feel like it's all.

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Speaker 7: Me, like I'm doing everything. There's that you think you

1158
01:03:41,720 --> 01:03:44,760
Speaker 7: make the world go around Like they were like, child,

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01:03:44,840 --> 01:03:48,600
Speaker 7: please take that now, you know, like you need to

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Speaker 7: let God. But I was like no, because if I

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Speaker 7: don't do this, I'm going to fall through the cracks.

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Speaker 2: If I don't know, if I've been in deep survival

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01:03:53,920 --> 01:03:56,480
Speaker 2: for so long and you're in this energy, does it

1164
01:03:56,520 --> 01:03:58,600
Speaker 2: far like as deep survival as me? But it does

1165
01:03:58,640 --> 01:04:03,160
Speaker 2: feel like you're needing open energy of collaboration. Spiritually, you

1166
01:04:03,320 --> 01:04:06,840
Speaker 2: need to not move as though you carry the weight

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01:04:06,920 --> 01:04:09,720
Speaker 2: of all your manifestations on your own shoulders. This is

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01:04:09,720 --> 01:04:12,440
Speaker 2: a partnership with the divine, and so you need to

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01:04:12,440 --> 01:04:15,040
Speaker 2: be looking through the divine to play their part, and

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01:04:15,080 --> 01:04:17,360
Speaker 2: that means you not trying to do it. I'll leave

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Speaker 2: it there.

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Speaker 3: Oh okay, our receive it.

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01:04:23,400 --> 01:04:25,240
Speaker 2: I receive it.

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Speaker 3: If it feels very accurate, yes.

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Speaker 2: I will say. The blessings are there, The blessings are there.

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Speaker 2: There's no there's no issues. It's about the quality and

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Speaker 2: conditions in which you receive them and you feeling validated

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01:04:40,480 --> 01:04:41,240
Speaker 2: in your choices.

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Speaker 4: Well, Leona, I feel like we of course we have

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Speaker 4: more questions, but I know we have taken up so

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Speaker 4: much of your time. This was so beautiful, This was incredible.

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Speaker 4: Thank you so much for your gift, for your incredible

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01:04:53,400 --> 01:04:56,160
Speaker 4: book that you've written for us. Thank you for just

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01:04:56,240 --> 01:04:58,520
Speaker 4: what you represent. Hopefully when you come to the States

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Speaker 4: we can hang out all together. So amazing.

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Speaker 2: And if we get to the UK, we have a.

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Speaker 4: Great audience space in the UK. So if we ever

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Speaker 4: get to the UK, or when we get to the UK,

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Speaker 4: we would love to go with you when we get there. Okay,

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Speaker 4: be honest. So if you can just let our listeners

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Speaker 4: know where they can find you, where they can support you.

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Speaker 4: What next steps can we take to support the mission

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Speaker 4: that you're on right now?

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Speaker 2: Oh beautiful? Yes, So I'm most active on Twitter as

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Speaker 2: Leon and a Cole Black. I have my Instagram page.

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Speaker 2: I'm about to get more active on TikTok. I'm loving

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Speaker 2: that actually, so I'm like, I'm ready to play. So

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Speaker 2: you'll be able to find me on TikTok ause Leon

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Speaker 2: and A Call Black. In fact, I'm learning the call

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Speaker 2: black everywhere on the socials. So that's the name. And

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Speaker 2: the book comes out in the States, so it should

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Speaker 2: be out on the thirteenth of June. Yeah, so I'm

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Speaker 2: really really excited about that. That's so soon, and so

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Speaker 2: please support it, please buy it. We'll be on Amazon

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Speaker 4: Amazing. We appreciate you. Lee on it lady, as you're listening.

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Speaker 4: When this episode drops, the book will be available, So

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Speaker 4: please go get your copy of Tarot Therapy on Amazon

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Speaker 4: Now Domina are going to head on over to the

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Speaker 4: after show and we're going to discuss and process these

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Speaker 4: readings that we got because baby, I need some tissue

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Speaker 4: and I feel like, you know, you go to church

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Speaker 4: and you get a good word and you're like, you

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Speaker 4: feel like full. I feel full of my spirits, so

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Speaker 4: we're going to go process that and maybe get some dessert.

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Speaker 4: Leonn Up. We appreciate you again, thank you so much

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Speaker 4: for your time.

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Speaker 2: And see you much time having me. It was really beautiful.

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