1 00:00:01,960 --> 00:00:04,560 Speaker 1: What's up everybody? You know what time it is. We 2 00:00:04,600 --> 00:00:07,840 Speaker 1: have another exciting episode of Bachelor Happy Hour. And of 3 00:00:07,880 --> 00:00:09,960 Speaker 1: course I'm not alone. I've got a very special guest, 4 00:00:10,039 --> 00:00:13,480 Speaker 1: a first timer to the Bachelor Happy Hour family. I 5 00:00:13,560 --> 00:00:17,280 Speaker 1: have the wonderful Becca Kup friend. Hello, I'm a newbie. 6 00:00:17,480 --> 00:00:19,600 Speaker 1: You're a newbie, but you're also my co host today. Yes, 7 00:00:19,680 --> 00:00:21,440 Speaker 1: and I'm so excited. We're gonna have a good time. 8 00:00:21,440 --> 00:00:23,919 Speaker 1: We've already if these walls could talk, you have no 9 00:00:23,960 --> 00:00:25,880 Speaker 1: idea what we were saying before we were micd up. 10 00:00:25,920 --> 00:00:28,080 Speaker 1: We should have been recording an hour ago. We should 11 00:00:28,240 --> 00:00:30,319 Speaker 1: we have been sipping some wine because of course this 12 00:00:30,440 --> 00:00:32,919 Speaker 1: is Bachelor Happy Hour. If you're gonna drink along with us, 13 00:00:32,960 --> 00:00:36,120 Speaker 1: make sure you drink responsibly. But maybe we'll get a 14 00:00:36,159 --> 00:00:39,839 Speaker 1: little loose lipped here, you know, spill the tea or 15 00:00:39,880 --> 00:00:42,360 Speaker 1: they might not be able to talk after that. I 16 00:00:42,440 --> 00:00:46,400 Speaker 1: love that. I love to hear that. Okay, but before 17 00:00:46,440 --> 00:00:48,440 Speaker 1: we get things kicked off, because we do have a 18 00:00:48,440 --> 00:00:52,280 Speaker 1: lot to get into. You have a new special project 19 00:00:52,280 --> 00:00:55,720 Speaker 1: that you were working on. Do tell so this is 20 00:00:55,760 --> 00:00:57,920 Speaker 1: actually the first time I can officially talk about it. 21 00:00:57,920 --> 00:00:59,720 Speaker 1: So I'm so excited. We've been working on it for 22 00:00:59,760 --> 00:01:02,560 Speaker 1: a while with my lovely co host Ben Higgins, but 23 00:01:02,680 --> 00:01:05,640 Speaker 1: I will be alongside him for The Bachelor Live on 24 00:01:05,760 --> 00:01:11,280 Speaker 1: stage tours. I'm so excited. We are kicking off February thirteenth, 25 00:01:11,360 --> 00:01:15,800 Speaker 1: twenty twenty in Mesa, Arizona. But basically what it is, 26 00:01:16,000 --> 00:01:18,840 Speaker 1: I could talk about this forever. I could also show 27 00:01:18,840 --> 00:01:21,320 Speaker 1: you all my choreography because I'm so because we've already 28 00:01:21,360 --> 00:01:23,880 Speaker 1: been working, We're getting choreography, We're getting like you are 29 00:01:23,880 --> 00:01:27,360 Speaker 1: getting the full Broadway esque experience. So basically, we are 30 00:01:27,360 --> 00:01:31,360 Speaker 1: bringing The Bachelor to sixty six cities across the nation, 31 00:01:31,720 --> 00:01:34,759 Speaker 1: so it's gonna be a wild ride. What I love 32 00:01:34,760 --> 00:01:37,440 Speaker 1: about this is you're going to see every city will 33 00:01:37,440 --> 00:01:40,399 Speaker 1: have their own local bachelors. So we're picking out these great, 34 00:01:40,400 --> 00:01:43,320 Speaker 1: awesome guys who are ready to hopefully find love, and 35 00:01:43,360 --> 00:01:47,000 Speaker 1: then ten contestants in each city, so some will be 36 00:01:47,040 --> 00:01:49,920 Speaker 1: picked by Ben and I, some may make appearances from 37 00:01:49,920 --> 00:01:52,680 Speaker 1: the audience, but it's going to be very audience interactive. 38 00:01:52,760 --> 00:01:55,600 Speaker 1: So you know, everyone watches The Bachelor and Bachelorette and 39 00:01:55,920 --> 00:01:58,800 Speaker 1: you get invested in the show and in the contestants, 40 00:01:58,800 --> 00:02:01,120 Speaker 1: and you have your favorites. The girls that you don't like, 41 00:02:01,640 --> 00:02:03,400 Speaker 1: So this is kind of the same thing. So we're 42 00:02:03,440 --> 00:02:05,720 Speaker 1: going to get the audience feedback on who we think 43 00:02:05,960 --> 00:02:08,600 Speaker 1: the Bachelor should end up with at the end. So 44 00:02:08,680 --> 00:02:10,720 Speaker 1: it's a little different. I know, we were talking about 45 00:02:10,760 --> 00:02:13,640 Speaker 1: the proposal before. It's not quite like that. So I 46 00:02:13,680 --> 00:02:16,080 Speaker 1: think people assume that the bachelor is going to have 47 00:02:16,120 --> 00:02:18,760 Speaker 1: to get engaged after two hours of the show. That's 48 00:02:18,760 --> 00:02:21,160 Speaker 1: not the case. He's just going to find his girl 49 00:02:21,200 --> 00:02:24,960 Speaker 1: who he thinks he wants to be continue dating in 50 00:02:24,960 --> 00:02:28,040 Speaker 1: the city and is most compatible with, so he can 51 00:02:28,080 --> 00:02:30,840 Speaker 1: give out his final rows. There is going to be 52 00:02:30,960 --> 00:02:32,680 Speaker 1: a great twist at the end, which I won't give 53 00:02:32,720 --> 00:02:34,680 Speaker 1: away right now because I want everyone to come and 54 00:02:34,720 --> 00:02:37,320 Speaker 1: watch it and see for themselves. But the twist at 55 00:02:37,320 --> 00:02:39,000 Speaker 1: the end is what hooked me and that's why I 56 00:02:39,040 --> 00:02:41,280 Speaker 1: originally said yes to this. So it's gonna be a 57 00:02:41,320 --> 00:02:44,000 Speaker 1: wild ride. It's going to be very fun. It'll be funny, 58 00:02:44,160 --> 00:02:48,080 Speaker 1: it'll be dramatic, we'll have some loving moments, and of course, 59 00:02:48,120 --> 00:02:50,680 Speaker 1: you know come see me in ben Dance. Well okay, 60 00:02:50,720 --> 00:02:53,680 Speaker 1: well you had me on choreography. Okay, Like I'm already 61 00:02:53,680 --> 00:02:55,840 Speaker 1: have my phone out, I'm googling I know you guys 62 00:02:55,880 --> 00:02:57,679 Speaker 1: are too, because I'm on the edge of my seat 63 00:02:57,720 --> 00:02:59,639 Speaker 1: trying to figure out what this is. I do have 64 00:02:59,639 --> 00:03:02,960 Speaker 1: a question though, yes, it is called Bachelive on stage. 65 00:03:03,200 --> 00:03:05,680 Speaker 1: Will there be people from the Bachelor franchise that may, 66 00:03:05,800 --> 00:03:08,160 Speaker 1: I don't know, make a guest appearance. Can we be invited? 67 00:03:08,280 --> 00:03:10,040 Speaker 1: Oh well, yes, you guys are already invited. I got 68 00:03:10,040 --> 00:03:12,760 Speaker 1: your tickets. There will be guest appearances. I mean, I'm 69 00:03:12,760 --> 00:03:15,880 Speaker 1: working hard to get Garrett to make an appearance because 70 00:03:16,120 --> 00:03:18,760 Speaker 1: I don't know a little off topic. Garrett did chippin 71 00:03:18,800 --> 00:03:21,760 Speaker 1: Dails a few months ago, and so anything that we 72 00:03:21,760 --> 00:03:23,640 Speaker 1: can get him to come out in a cowboy hat 73 00:03:23,720 --> 00:03:25,200 Speaker 1: and like rip a shirt off, I'm all four. So 74 00:03:25,360 --> 00:03:28,720 Speaker 1: does he remember the choreography? I don't know. If he dies, 75 00:03:28,760 --> 00:03:30,360 Speaker 1: I'm sure he does. I don't make him do it 76 00:03:30,400 --> 00:03:33,120 Speaker 1: at home. But he only had he literally met the 77 00:03:33,240 --> 00:03:35,480 Speaker 1: dancers like an hour before he had to go on 78 00:03:35,520 --> 00:03:37,520 Speaker 1: stage and do a full blown show with them. So 79 00:03:38,080 --> 00:03:41,040 Speaker 1: I think I think the dancers with him helped out 80 00:03:41,040 --> 00:03:43,000 Speaker 1: a lot, which we also will have a full dance 81 00:03:43,080 --> 00:03:47,560 Speaker 1: crew on our Bachelorlive on Stage two. So it's I 82 00:03:47,680 --> 00:03:50,640 Speaker 1: think when people are getting a sense of what this 83 00:03:50,720 --> 00:03:53,520 Speaker 1: all is. I think people might get nervous and they'd 84 00:03:53,560 --> 00:03:55,040 Speaker 1: be like, Oh, we don't want to be on stage. 85 00:03:55,080 --> 00:03:57,840 Speaker 1: That's serve racking. It's going to be so fun, it's 86 00:03:57,840 --> 00:04:00,400 Speaker 1: going to be so positive, lighthearted. But we have a 87 00:04:00,400 --> 00:04:03,120 Speaker 1: full production with us, so we have changing said. So 88 00:04:03,120 --> 00:04:04,800 Speaker 1: you're gonna feel like you're at the mansion. You're gonna 89 00:04:04,800 --> 00:04:06,960 Speaker 1: feel like maybe you're in the hot tub coming out 90 00:04:06,960 --> 00:04:09,440 Speaker 1: of the limo. But I've met the dancers this week 91 00:04:09,480 --> 00:04:12,640 Speaker 1: and they're amazing and they have everyone's backs. They are 92 00:04:12,640 --> 00:04:15,320 Speaker 1: going to make these girls and the Bachelor look wonderful. 93 00:04:15,560 --> 00:04:17,600 Speaker 1: So it's gonna be a good time. I love it 94 00:04:17,600 --> 00:04:20,800 Speaker 1: because you're you're really making Bachelor Nation feel like they're 95 00:04:20,800 --> 00:04:23,599 Speaker 1: a part of this thing. You watch it now. It's 96 00:04:23,600 --> 00:04:26,080 Speaker 1: coming to a sitting near US sixty six cities, which 97 00:04:26,120 --> 00:04:29,160 Speaker 1: is still crazy to me. I do have another question, though, 98 00:04:29,200 --> 00:04:30,880 Speaker 1: because the more and more you talk, I'm so excited 99 00:04:30,920 --> 00:04:33,640 Speaker 1: and I'm like, I have another question for the people 100 00:04:33,680 --> 00:04:37,880 Speaker 1: who didn't find love on The Bachelor. Is it possible 101 00:04:37,920 --> 00:04:41,599 Speaker 1: that maybe they're a contestant? It is possible that is 102 00:04:41,640 --> 00:04:44,200 Speaker 1: actually something that we had just been talking about a 103 00:04:44,200 --> 00:04:47,640 Speaker 1: couple of days ago. Because you have this amazing crew 104 00:04:47,680 --> 00:04:49,920 Speaker 1: of people who are still looking to find love, and 105 00:04:50,600 --> 00:04:53,360 Speaker 1: and you know you're in your hometown. Everyone's on the 106 00:04:53,440 --> 00:04:55,400 Speaker 1: dating naps, everyone's going to the bars and out to 107 00:04:55,400 --> 00:04:57,840 Speaker 1: try and find somebody. So this is basically like that, 108 00:04:57,960 --> 00:05:00,080 Speaker 1: but just on stage in front of a crowd. That 109 00:05:00,440 --> 00:05:03,680 Speaker 1: could be more fun. So we could bring in past contestants. 110 00:05:04,080 --> 00:05:08,000 Speaker 1: I also could see it finding some great people on 111 00:05:08,040 --> 00:05:11,800 Speaker 1: our live stage that could potentially if they want make 112 00:05:11,839 --> 00:05:14,440 Speaker 1: it onto the show too. Yeah, I'm going to give 113 00:05:14,480 --> 00:05:16,960 Speaker 1: you a list of people that I would like to see. Well, 114 00:05:17,080 --> 00:05:19,839 Speaker 1: you can nominate, Okay, I will do that. Everybody else 115 00:05:19,839 --> 00:05:22,720 Speaker 1: should dm Becca and Ben and let them know who 116 00:05:22,760 --> 00:05:25,120 Speaker 1: you would like to see from a past season on 117 00:05:25,160 --> 00:05:27,599 Speaker 1: the show. Dm me. Also, it might get buried, but 118 00:05:27,880 --> 00:05:30,839 Speaker 1: anyone if you want to apply or nominate anyone. I 119 00:05:30,880 --> 00:05:33,280 Speaker 1: will definitely be dominating some of my friends who are 120 00:05:33,279 --> 00:05:35,679 Speaker 1: single back in Minnesota. But you can go to Bachelor 121 00:05:35,720 --> 00:05:38,159 Speaker 1: Live onstage dot com. Is that also how they can 122 00:05:38,200 --> 00:05:42,240 Speaker 1: get tickets? Yes, tickets to the full lineup of cities, dates, everything. Okay, 123 00:05:42,279 --> 00:05:45,120 Speaker 1: Well I'm expecting free tickets, but Rachel, you might make 124 00:05:45,160 --> 00:05:49,919 Speaker 1: an appearance. I might be doing the choreography with me. Well, congratulations, 125 00:05:49,960 --> 00:05:52,080 Speaker 1: I'm so excited. I love that you win in depth 126 00:05:52,120 --> 00:05:55,080 Speaker 1: explaining it because I feel like we're all like Bachelor 127 00:05:55,120 --> 00:05:58,599 Speaker 1: live on stage. What is this? Need to understand it now? 128 00:05:58,640 --> 00:06:01,520 Speaker 1: I'm hooked. And that's when I first heard about it. 129 00:06:01,560 --> 00:06:03,520 Speaker 1: I was the same way because I think they announced 130 00:06:03,520 --> 00:06:05,880 Speaker 1: it at Paradise and they yeah, they were like, well 131 00:06:05,960 --> 00:06:07,880 Speaker 1: then to bend really quick. But everyone was like, what 132 00:06:08,000 --> 00:06:10,600 Speaker 1: is this? How's it gonna work. It's gonna be like 133 00:06:10,680 --> 00:06:12,520 Speaker 1: if you were to buy tickets to a Broadway show. 134 00:06:12,560 --> 00:06:14,719 Speaker 1: That's kind of what it's gonna be. You know, we're 135 00:06:14,760 --> 00:06:16,960 Speaker 1: not singing, luckily, because I don't think anyone wants to 136 00:06:17,000 --> 00:06:19,840 Speaker 1: hear that. But it's gonna be a full blown show. 137 00:06:19,880 --> 00:06:21,960 Speaker 1: Like you sit back, you can grab your cocktails. We'll 138 00:06:22,000 --> 00:06:24,279 Speaker 1: give you some roses. You can scream at the crowd, 139 00:06:24,320 --> 00:06:26,039 Speaker 1: you can scream at us, like you can get up 140 00:06:26,040 --> 00:06:28,240 Speaker 1: and dance with us. It's everything. It's super interactive. It's 141 00:06:28,240 --> 00:06:31,400 Speaker 1: going to be such a great time. I'm excited. It'll 142 00:06:31,440 --> 00:06:33,840 Speaker 1: be fun. I okay, I keep looking at the guests 143 00:06:33,880 --> 00:06:36,080 Speaker 1: that we have in the room because I'm like, aren't 144 00:06:36,080 --> 00:06:39,200 Speaker 1: you excited? But she can't say anything yet she can't 145 00:06:39,200 --> 00:06:43,080 Speaker 1: say anything. Yes she okay, Becca, congratulations to everything that 146 00:06:43,160 --> 00:06:45,400 Speaker 1: you have coming up. This is really exciting. You and 147 00:06:45,400 --> 00:06:47,240 Speaker 1: Ben are gonna have the best time. He'll be the 148 00:06:47,240 --> 00:06:50,360 Speaker 1: best co host. I'm excited. I am. I know all 149 00:06:50,360 --> 00:06:52,799 Speaker 1: of you guys are expecting to hear nil Lane this week. 150 00:06:52,920 --> 00:06:54,920 Speaker 1: And because normally we like to tease who's coming up 151 00:06:54,920 --> 00:06:57,800 Speaker 1: on the podcast, don't worry. Nil Lane will be here, 152 00:06:57,920 --> 00:07:02,040 Speaker 1: but not today because some big news has been popping 153 00:07:02,080 --> 00:07:05,280 Speaker 1: off in Batster Nation as of recently, and we know 154 00:07:05,360 --> 00:07:06,919 Speaker 1: you guys want to talk about it. We want to 155 00:07:06,920 --> 00:07:09,000 Speaker 1: talk about it. We want to hear from the people 156 00:07:09,040 --> 00:07:13,240 Speaker 1: who are involved with this big news. And yeah, I 157 00:07:13,480 --> 00:07:15,720 Speaker 1: don't know about you, Becca, but I've been a little 158 00:07:15,760 --> 00:07:19,600 Speaker 1: shook this week. We've gotten a lot of news. Yeah, yeah, 159 00:07:19,600 --> 00:07:21,040 Speaker 1: we have. And so we're not going to keep you 160 00:07:21,040 --> 00:07:23,920 Speaker 1: waiting any longer because in the studio today we have 161 00:07:23,960 --> 00:07:30,080 Speaker 1: Tasia Hi Tatia. So it has been announced that Tatia 162 00:07:30,160 --> 00:07:33,880 Speaker 1: and John Paul Jones JPJ. What what are we gonna 163 00:07:33,880 --> 00:07:35,720 Speaker 1: call him here? Because it's like a mouth hill and 164 00:07:35,760 --> 00:07:38,360 Speaker 1: I just I mean, I call him John, Okay, John, 165 00:07:38,480 --> 00:07:40,880 Speaker 1: I like that. So Tasia and John have officially split. 166 00:07:40,920 --> 00:07:43,080 Speaker 1: You guys know who we're talking about. And Tatia has 167 00:07:43,120 --> 00:07:44,760 Speaker 1: been our girl. She's a friend of the show, so 168 00:07:44,760 --> 00:07:47,800 Speaker 1: she's gonna dish about it and just tell us what happened. 169 00:07:47,840 --> 00:07:49,680 Speaker 1: Take us from the beginning, because I feel like there's 170 00:07:49,720 --> 00:07:53,840 Speaker 1: been so much speculation about your relationship, so let's just 171 00:07:53,880 --> 00:07:56,640 Speaker 1: stop speculating. Let's get right to it. Let's talk to 172 00:07:56,680 --> 00:08:00,200 Speaker 1: the woman who was actually involved in this relationship. Who 173 00:08:00,240 --> 00:08:03,080 Speaker 1: can set the record straight. Okay, you guys, So we're 174 00:08:03,080 --> 00:08:05,680 Speaker 1: gonna be talking to Nil next week, but this week 175 00:08:05,760 --> 00:08:09,480 Speaker 1: it's all about Tasia. Oh right out there? Can we 176 00:08:09,520 --> 00:08:12,760 Speaker 1: get a timeline first? Yeah? Am I jumping ahead? I 177 00:08:12,800 --> 00:08:16,400 Speaker 1: would like because I watched Paradise on and off. I 178 00:08:16,440 --> 00:08:19,520 Speaker 1: actually saw you at Mexico at Chris and Chris's wedding, 179 00:08:19,640 --> 00:08:21,600 Speaker 1: and at that point I didn't know. I mean, there 180 00:08:21,640 --> 00:08:22,960 Speaker 1: was a lot going on, so I didn't know that 181 00:08:23,000 --> 00:08:24,520 Speaker 1: you guys had been dating. But I just want a 182 00:08:24,520 --> 00:08:29,720 Speaker 1: timeline of when everything started ended, everything in the middle. Okay, 183 00:08:30,200 --> 00:08:33,880 Speaker 1: so we'll go back to the wedding. At that point 184 00:08:34,840 --> 00:08:37,800 Speaker 1: I had so I actually had talked to Derek's since 185 00:08:37,880 --> 00:08:39,480 Speaker 1: day one of Paradise. You guys kind of saw a 186 00:08:39,480 --> 00:08:42,840 Speaker 1: snippet of me talking to him, So I think that's 187 00:08:43,120 --> 00:08:44,679 Speaker 1: where we kind of decided to take it to the 188 00:08:44,720 --> 00:08:47,040 Speaker 1: next level and see if there was anything there, but 189 00:08:47,080 --> 00:08:51,040 Speaker 1: there wasn't. I think that's where John also decided that 190 00:08:51,080 --> 00:08:55,360 Speaker 1: he wanted to pursue me wholeheartedly, as opposed to see 191 00:08:55,400 --> 00:09:01,800 Speaker 1: anything else. Catch So my question is because it made 192 00:09:01,800 --> 00:09:04,880 Speaker 1: it seem like John. He sounds so worn when I 193 00:09:04,920 --> 00:09:09,240 Speaker 1: just called him John. Yeah, when he was pursuing you, 194 00:09:09,360 --> 00:09:11,760 Speaker 1: I mean he seemed all in, like he was head 195 00:09:11,800 --> 00:09:17,240 Speaker 1: over heels, like dead set, laser focused on you, obsessed. Yeah, 196 00:09:17,280 --> 00:09:20,760 Speaker 1: So did you sense that when you were with him 197 00:09:21,080 --> 00:09:22,880 Speaker 1: or was it more watching it back where you're like, 198 00:09:22,880 --> 00:09:26,120 Speaker 1: oh god, he's really into me. I honestly had no 199 00:09:26,200 --> 00:09:31,040 Speaker 1: idea how much he was like into me until I 200 00:09:31,040 --> 00:09:32,560 Speaker 1: think he was when he started crying to me and 201 00:09:32,559 --> 00:09:33,960 Speaker 1: he was just like, I just really need you to 202 00:09:34,000 --> 00:09:36,160 Speaker 1: have like your own time, and I need to decide 203 00:09:36,160 --> 00:09:38,040 Speaker 1: what you want, like I want you in blah blah blah. 204 00:09:38,040 --> 00:09:42,240 Speaker 1: And that happened, I don't know right before I would 205 00:09:42,240 --> 00:09:46,560 Speaker 1: say a week before breakups, Okay, before the fantasies. Yeah, 206 00:09:46,559 --> 00:09:50,200 Speaker 1: this was after the wedding, right, Okay, yeah, um, but 207 00:09:50,280 --> 00:09:51,640 Speaker 1: like to me, it was just kind of like a 208 00:09:51,679 --> 00:09:53,920 Speaker 1: fun fling honestly, like we had like that moment where 209 00:09:53,920 --> 00:09:55,120 Speaker 1: we like fell in the pool. It was just like, 210 00:09:55,120 --> 00:09:56,360 Speaker 1: I don't know what the heck is going on, Like 211 00:09:56,360 --> 00:09:59,640 Speaker 1: this guy's super fun and we just had a good time. 212 00:09:59,640 --> 00:10:01,960 Speaker 1: But I did didn't really see anything serious coming out 213 00:10:02,000 --> 00:10:04,240 Speaker 1: of it, Like the next day, we just didn't talk, 214 00:10:04,280 --> 00:10:06,160 Speaker 1: like it would just be like a fun, like little flirt, 215 00:10:06,320 --> 00:10:08,440 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. So when he was like 216 00:10:08,480 --> 00:10:10,680 Speaker 1: I love you, it really caught me by surprise. I 217 00:10:10,720 --> 00:10:13,960 Speaker 1: did not expect him to say that at all. So 218 00:10:14,160 --> 00:10:15,679 Speaker 1: when I broke up with him at that moment, it 219 00:10:15,720 --> 00:10:17,080 Speaker 1: was because I thought it was the right thing to do, 220 00:10:17,120 --> 00:10:18,960 Speaker 1: because I'm not just gonna say I love you just 221 00:10:18,960 --> 00:10:20,719 Speaker 1: to say I love you, and I'm not going to 222 00:10:20,800 --> 00:10:22,560 Speaker 1: lead him on because I can tell if this guy 223 00:10:22,640 --> 00:10:25,200 Speaker 1: was like legitimately head over heels for me, well, you 224 00:10:25,280 --> 00:10:28,640 Speaker 1: obviously saw something in JPJ that you didn't see in 225 00:10:28,760 --> 00:10:31,840 Speaker 1: Derek because you sent Derek home, so you knew that 226 00:10:31,880 --> 00:10:36,360 Speaker 1: there was nothing there. Am I right? Correct? I was 227 00:10:36,480 --> 00:10:40,640 Speaker 1: not how do I say this up? I was not 228 00:10:40,760 --> 00:10:45,240 Speaker 1: romantically drawn to Derek. Ok we had like a good connection, 229 00:10:45,280 --> 00:10:48,240 Speaker 1: and I think that we connected on us a lot 230 00:10:48,280 --> 00:10:51,000 Speaker 1: of ways that a lot of people at Paradise were 231 00:10:51,040 --> 00:10:52,640 Speaker 1: not able to connect with me, like in the sense 232 00:10:52,640 --> 00:10:55,120 Speaker 1: that he was engaged at one point that didn't work out. 233 00:10:55,600 --> 00:10:57,720 Speaker 1: We had to put ourselves out there before. So we 234 00:10:57,760 --> 00:11:01,679 Speaker 1: connected on that and so I think that's where our 235 00:11:01,720 --> 00:11:04,880 Speaker 1: foundation really started. But at that time when you sent 236 00:11:04,960 --> 00:11:08,200 Speaker 1: Derek Comb, did you see something more serious with JPJ 237 00:11:08,840 --> 00:11:10,760 Speaker 1: or was it just more fun and lighthearted and you 238 00:11:10,800 --> 00:11:17,079 Speaker 1: wanted to experience that lighthearted side of things. I'm honestly 239 00:11:17,240 --> 00:11:19,000 Speaker 1: at that point it was just it was more fun 240 00:11:19,000 --> 00:11:22,760 Speaker 1: and lighthearted. But also John possessed a lot of qualities, 241 00:11:23,240 --> 00:11:26,160 Speaker 1: like the fact that he's a faithful man and not 242 00:11:26,240 --> 00:11:29,920 Speaker 1: just like I mean with like religion, Like he's a 243 00:11:29,960 --> 00:11:34,040 Speaker 1: religious man. He's also very close to his family. He 244 00:11:34,160 --> 00:11:36,840 Speaker 1: was successful in his job. He's a financial analyst. He 245 00:11:36,960 --> 00:11:39,920 Speaker 1: went to school for doing something you know that requires brains, 246 00:11:39,920 --> 00:11:43,280 Speaker 1: and I that's attractive to me. There was a lot 247 00:11:43,320 --> 00:11:45,320 Speaker 1: of things I was drawn too by John. But also 248 00:11:45,320 --> 00:11:46,560 Speaker 1: it was just really fun. The way he made me 249 00:11:46,600 --> 00:11:50,240 Speaker 1: laugh was like nobody else. Okay, changing gears here when 250 00:11:50,280 --> 00:11:53,520 Speaker 1: you watched JPJ on hand this season. What were your 251 00:11:53,559 --> 00:11:56,640 Speaker 1: thoughts because I watched behind the scenes of I think 252 00:11:56,679 --> 00:12:00,280 Speaker 1: it was when they had My Favorite day the Drakes 253 00:12:00,600 --> 00:12:03,720 Speaker 1: and they did the like talent show portion of that 254 00:12:03,840 --> 00:12:07,280 Speaker 1: date and he came out on the unicycle. Yeah, I 255 00:12:07,280 --> 00:12:09,080 Speaker 1: almost fell into the audience, but he was in his 256 00:12:09,120 --> 00:12:11,160 Speaker 1: speedo and I was like, who is this guy? Like 257 00:12:11,200 --> 00:12:13,520 Speaker 1: he's going all out? He I mean I was sitting 258 00:12:13,520 --> 00:12:16,360 Speaker 1: back just dying laughing. Yeah, but what were your thoughts 259 00:12:16,400 --> 00:12:19,600 Speaker 1: were you when you saw him then? Were you like, oh, 260 00:12:19,679 --> 00:12:21,920 Speaker 1: he's cute or were you like this goofball? I thought 261 00:12:21,920 --> 00:12:23,720 Speaker 1: he was a goofball, but like it made me laugh. 262 00:12:23,760 --> 00:12:28,120 Speaker 1: I remember rewinding it like three, four or five times 263 00:12:28,120 --> 00:12:30,480 Speaker 1: when he was when they were doing the berthing simulation. 264 00:12:31,040 --> 00:12:33,040 Speaker 1: I was laughing so hard at the faces he was 265 00:12:33,080 --> 00:12:35,240 Speaker 1: making and he just made me laugh. And then same 266 00:12:35,280 --> 00:12:36,920 Speaker 1: with the unicycle thing. But then also I left a 267 00:12:36,960 --> 00:12:39,840 Speaker 1: paradise right after us. I didn't see anything else when 268 00:12:39,880 --> 00:12:42,600 Speaker 1: you described John, like you talk about the laughter, which 269 00:12:42,640 --> 00:12:44,680 Speaker 1: we all saw, like he seems like he's a really 270 00:12:44,720 --> 00:12:47,200 Speaker 1: funny guy, and then you named a bunch of other 271 00:12:47,320 --> 00:12:50,000 Speaker 1: characteristics like that he checks off the boxes, things that 272 00:12:50,040 --> 00:12:53,839 Speaker 1: are important to you. But as far as connecting with 273 00:12:53,920 --> 00:12:58,079 Speaker 1: each other, what was it that drew you to him? Honestly, 274 00:12:58,200 --> 00:13:04,520 Speaker 1: it was just I feel like he he just like 275 00:13:04,679 --> 00:13:07,120 Speaker 1: listened to me and he maybe I was just really 276 00:13:07,200 --> 00:13:08,920 Speaker 1: vulnerable at the time and I just needed someone just 277 00:13:08,920 --> 00:13:12,280 Speaker 1: to like show me that care and attention, you know 278 00:13:12,280 --> 00:13:16,800 Speaker 1: what I mean. And um, he just was really invested 279 00:13:16,840 --> 00:13:18,880 Speaker 1: in getting to know me and wanting to hear my 280 00:13:18,920 --> 00:13:20,760 Speaker 1: heart and all the kind of stuff. He was there, 281 00:13:21,000 --> 00:13:23,840 Speaker 1: He was present and that's what I wanted at the time. 282 00:13:24,360 --> 00:13:28,640 Speaker 1: How was kissing him? Oh well, I did tell John 283 00:13:28,640 --> 00:13:31,719 Speaker 1: we needed to work on that. We can tell it. 284 00:13:32,200 --> 00:13:33,760 Speaker 1: I was looking at him like, why are you kissing 285 00:13:33,760 --> 00:13:35,720 Speaker 1: me like a fish? But we worked on it. He 286 00:13:35,720 --> 00:13:38,040 Speaker 1: got much better, I will tell you that. Damn it. 287 00:13:39,679 --> 00:13:42,400 Speaker 1: I'm not going to say anything I ask the next question. 288 00:13:43,000 --> 00:13:45,800 Speaker 1: I think he was honestly very nervous though. Okay, so 289 00:13:46,760 --> 00:13:51,880 Speaker 1: the kissing obviously leads to the touching in the fantasy suits, 290 00:13:51,880 --> 00:13:55,040 Speaker 1: which you sent him home before right before the Fantasy suits. 291 00:13:55,600 --> 00:13:57,959 Speaker 1: I get because when I was the bachelort, I sent 292 00:13:58,120 --> 00:14:01,680 Speaker 1: Jason home during right before Fantasy Suits. I'm sure I 293 00:14:01,720 --> 00:14:04,400 Speaker 1: sent him home for vastly different reasons, because at that 294 00:14:04,440 --> 00:14:07,960 Speaker 1: point I really was falling hard for Jason and the 295 00:14:07,960 --> 00:14:11,080 Speaker 1: feelings were there, and I knew it would have been 296 00:14:11,120 --> 00:14:13,160 Speaker 1: a great night, But I just I also knew I 297 00:14:13,240 --> 00:14:18,040 Speaker 1: had really strong connections with the remaining men. So what 298 00:14:18,280 --> 00:14:20,280 Speaker 1: was your thought process in that moment when I know 299 00:14:20,320 --> 00:14:22,000 Speaker 1: that you said he had said that you loved that 300 00:14:22,120 --> 00:14:23,720 Speaker 1: he had loved you, and you didn't want to string 301 00:14:23,800 --> 00:14:26,040 Speaker 1: him along and take him with the fantasy suits? But 302 00:14:26,640 --> 00:14:29,400 Speaker 1: did you ever? What was your thought process in saying 303 00:14:29,480 --> 00:14:32,000 Speaker 1: no at that point? Did you want to explore the 304 00:14:32,120 --> 00:14:35,800 Speaker 1: night with him or idea? Did the fish kissing kind 305 00:14:35,840 --> 00:14:40,160 Speaker 1: of turn you off? No? I did, But intimacy is 306 00:14:40,160 --> 00:14:42,120 Speaker 1: a really big deal for me. I don't know I 307 00:14:42,120 --> 00:14:45,360 Speaker 1: can count on one hand how many people I've slept with. 308 00:14:45,520 --> 00:14:49,240 Speaker 1: I'm just intimacy is a really big deal. So I 309 00:14:49,280 --> 00:14:51,160 Speaker 1: wouldn't just do it just to do it. And there's 310 00:14:51,200 --> 00:14:53,520 Speaker 1: nothing wrong with anybody exploring that, But I'm just saying 311 00:14:53,560 --> 00:14:56,080 Speaker 1: for me, I wasn't ready to take that step because 312 00:14:56,080 --> 00:15:01,800 Speaker 1: I knew I wasn't all in. So was intimacy a 313 00:15:01,800 --> 00:15:04,080 Speaker 1: part of your relationship when you left Paradise? Like, did 314 00:15:04,080 --> 00:15:05,640 Speaker 1: you do you feel like I'm not trying to get 315 00:15:05,640 --> 00:15:08,080 Speaker 1: you to tell me your personal business, like what goes 316 00:15:08,120 --> 00:15:10,360 Speaker 1: on behind closed doors. I just more so mean, do 317 00:15:10,400 --> 00:15:13,840 Speaker 1: you feel like you had an intimate that intimacy that 318 00:15:13,920 --> 00:15:18,000 Speaker 1: you were seeking with Sean Paul Jones? Um? I think 319 00:15:18,600 --> 00:15:22,520 Speaker 1: over time, as I got to know him. That's Mendos, 320 00:15:22,520 --> 00:15:24,480 Speaker 1: a co host today as well. I was trying to 321 00:15:24,480 --> 00:15:26,240 Speaker 1: make it all about her. I'm sorry, do you want 322 00:15:26,240 --> 00:15:30,960 Speaker 1: to come up here and talk um um as our 323 00:15:31,000 --> 00:15:36,800 Speaker 1: relationship progress outside of all of um paradise, I say, 324 00:15:36,840 --> 00:15:39,200 Speaker 1: the cameras and all that stuff. Just getting to know him, 325 00:15:39,320 --> 00:15:44,000 Speaker 1: I was more open to being intimate with him, yes, kay, 326 00:15:44,640 --> 00:15:48,760 Speaker 1: But also we were long distance, so try that. How Yeah, 327 00:15:48,880 --> 00:15:51,880 Speaker 1: let's get into that. Because we saw you guys break up, 328 00:15:51,920 --> 00:15:54,720 Speaker 1: it was really really emotional. I do want to ask 329 00:15:54,760 --> 00:15:56,680 Speaker 1: you that when you broke up with him, were you 330 00:15:57,040 --> 00:16:01,560 Speaker 1: in that moment regretting it or were you yes? Okay, yes, Well, 331 00:16:01,560 --> 00:16:03,600 Speaker 1: because we saw the part where you guys said your 332 00:16:03,600 --> 00:16:08,120 Speaker 1: goodbyes on the day bed and then you ran after him, 333 00:16:08,200 --> 00:16:10,240 Speaker 1: And in that moment when when I was watching it, 334 00:16:10,240 --> 00:16:11,680 Speaker 1: I was like, Oh, she's gonna get him back, like 335 00:16:11,680 --> 00:16:13,400 Speaker 1: she's gonna say I made a mistake. I had no 336 00:16:13,440 --> 00:16:16,000 Speaker 1: idea what to expect, but I thought it was sweet 337 00:16:16,000 --> 00:16:18,120 Speaker 1: that you gave him that extra time and gave him 338 00:16:18,160 --> 00:16:20,520 Speaker 1: a huggin and made him still feel special, Like you 339 00:16:20,520 --> 00:16:22,680 Speaker 1: guys did have something. But I was convinced you were 340 00:16:22,680 --> 00:16:24,280 Speaker 1: going to be like we're doing this, We're going to 341 00:16:24,280 --> 00:16:29,240 Speaker 1: the fantasy sweets. Yeah, I don't know. I knew that 342 00:16:29,280 --> 00:16:31,800 Speaker 1: he was a special person. Like I said, there was 343 00:16:31,800 --> 00:16:33,840 Speaker 1: just a lot of things that I think he checks off. 344 00:16:34,040 --> 00:16:36,520 Speaker 1: I think also the whole loyalty thing, it's a really 345 00:16:36,560 --> 00:16:38,840 Speaker 1: big deal for me. I don't think John would ever 346 00:16:38,840 --> 00:16:41,120 Speaker 1: put himself in a situation and he's also promised me 347 00:16:41,160 --> 00:16:43,720 Speaker 1: that to ever cheat on me, and cheating on me 348 00:16:43,760 --> 00:16:45,160 Speaker 1: it's like a really big thing to me because I 349 00:16:45,160 --> 00:16:49,280 Speaker 1: have been burned like that in the past. So there's 350 00:16:49,320 --> 00:16:51,840 Speaker 1: just like other things as well that I love about him, 351 00:16:51,880 --> 00:16:54,120 Speaker 1: But that was like a really big thing to me, 352 00:16:54,120 --> 00:16:55,520 Speaker 1: And I was like, I don't know if I will 353 00:16:55,520 --> 00:16:58,440 Speaker 1: find that again. I just don't want to subject myself 354 00:16:58,440 --> 00:17:02,160 Speaker 1: to being her specifically like that. So Yeah, I feel 355 00:17:02,200 --> 00:17:05,200 Speaker 1: like with JPJ, you got I keep used saying his name. 356 00:17:05,320 --> 00:17:08,119 Speaker 1: I've said all like five different ways. I feel like 357 00:17:08,160 --> 00:17:12,400 Speaker 1: with JPJ. He gave you what was missing for you 358 00:17:13,080 --> 00:17:16,399 Speaker 1: in other relationships, and sometimes maybe that's like what you 359 00:17:16,440 --> 00:17:19,159 Speaker 1: hold on to and what you're drawn to, and then 360 00:17:19,359 --> 00:17:21,800 Speaker 1: time goes on and you realize you maybe need a 361 00:17:21,840 --> 00:17:25,080 Speaker 1: little bit more in a relationship. So time did go 362 00:17:25,119 --> 00:17:28,640 Speaker 1: on for you, guys, and we saw you go see him. 363 00:17:29,040 --> 00:17:31,200 Speaker 1: Where was he in Baltimore? Is that where it was? 364 00:17:31,480 --> 00:17:33,960 Speaker 1: He's in Maryland, Maryland, So we see you go see 365 00:17:34,040 --> 00:17:36,960 Speaker 1: him in Maryland. You guys get back together your boyfriend 366 00:17:37,000 --> 00:17:41,639 Speaker 1: and girlfriend official? And how much time passed between then 367 00:17:41,760 --> 00:17:45,560 Speaker 1: and the now breakup? That was the end of July. 368 00:17:46,240 --> 00:17:50,560 Speaker 1: So July, August, September, October. Okay, did you guys talking 369 00:17:50,560 --> 00:17:53,479 Speaker 1: in between leaving Paradise and going out? So that was 370 00:17:53,560 --> 00:17:56,160 Speaker 1: like that was honestly the first time I saw him, 371 00:17:56,400 --> 00:17:59,399 Speaker 1: spoke to him anything. I wouldn't say left. Did you 372 00:17:59,400 --> 00:18:01,120 Speaker 1: feel like you're stomach who was going to fall out 373 00:18:01,119 --> 00:18:03,280 Speaker 1: of your butt? I would have been freaking out. You 374 00:18:03,320 --> 00:18:05,560 Speaker 1: don't even know. I was higraventilating, I was shaking. I 375 00:18:05,640 --> 00:18:09,000 Speaker 1: was like and it was super hot that day. Um, 376 00:18:09,040 --> 00:18:11,760 Speaker 1: it was just well it looked good. We couldn't yeah, 377 00:18:11,760 --> 00:18:13,359 Speaker 1: I know, we couldn't tell thank you very much. I 378 00:18:13,400 --> 00:18:14,960 Speaker 1: knew he was going to take you back. I mean, 379 00:18:15,080 --> 00:18:17,560 Speaker 1: if everything what he was saying about you and Paradise 380 00:18:17,640 --> 00:18:20,520 Speaker 1: was true, then this was a dream that literally just 381 00:18:20,600 --> 00:18:23,159 Speaker 1: knocked on his door for him. Yeah, So take us 382 00:18:23,160 --> 00:18:27,399 Speaker 1: through that time off camera between July and where are 383 00:18:27,440 --> 00:18:32,560 Speaker 1: we now? November July and November first or October when 384 00:18:32,560 --> 00:18:36,560 Speaker 1: you guys broke up. Um, what how did your relationship progress? 385 00:18:37,480 --> 00:18:43,280 Speaker 1: I'm or didn't. I mean, honestly, it was very slow. Um, 386 00:18:43,320 --> 00:18:45,280 Speaker 1: I feel like we had just gone back from paradise. 387 00:18:45,480 --> 00:18:48,119 Speaker 1: John was still working at nine to five. Um, he 388 00:18:48,160 --> 00:18:50,359 Speaker 1: went actually straight to work the next day after he 389 00:18:50,560 --> 00:18:53,760 Speaker 1: came back from Paradise. So, and again he's a financial analyst, 390 00:18:53,800 --> 00:18:56,840 Speaker 1: so his work is very grueling. He doesn't, he told 391 00:18:56,880 --> 00:18:59,320 Speaker 1: me since the day like we got together. He's like, listen, 392 00:18:59,400 --> 00:19:01,600 Speaker 1: and I'm at where I'm at work. If I don't respond, 393 00:19:01,600 --> 00:19:03,520 Speaker 1: I'm not going to respond because I just I'm in 394 00:19:03,560 --> 00:19:05,760 Speaker 1: it one And I said, that's totally fine. But we're 395 00:19:05,800 --> 00:19:11,399 Speaker 1: also a three hour time difference. So, um, we really 396 00:19:11,400 --> 00:19:13,840 Speaker 1: just relied on facetimean John got an entirely new phones 397 00:19:13,840 --> 00:19:17,159 Speaker 1: that we could facetimey even better. Before that, No, he 398 00:19:17,320 --> 00:19:24,639 Speaker 1: just halm, like I don't even know, like the first literally, 399 00:19:25,280 --> 00:19:27,680 Speaker 1: oh my gosh. And so he went straight to a 400 00:19:27,840 --> 00:19:30,600 Speaker 1: Verizon store. I got a brand new cell phone, and 401 00:19:30,640 --> 00:19:32,159 Speaker 1: he was just like, Tage, I could FaceTime your now 402 00:19:32,160 --> 00:19:34,240 Speaker 1: because that was like a huge part for us um 403 00:19:34,280 --> 00:19:37,840 Speaker 1: And I was traveling a bunch. I just realized that 404 00:19:37,920 --> 00:19:41,000 Speaker 1: last weekend was my first weekend home since mid August. 405 00:19:41,840 --> 00:19:46,400 Speaker 1: Like I had been gone every single weekend, every single minute. Honestly, 406 00:19:46,840 --> 00:19:50,040 Speaker 1: so John working nine to five, me traveling a bunch 407 00:19:50,640 --> 00:19:52,400 Speaker 1: and trying to squeeze in too, like see him when 408 00:19:52,400 --> 00:19:56,320 Speaker 1: I can it Just like it was hard. It's really 409 00:19:56,320 --> 00:19:58,720 Speaker 1: really hard. And I did do long distance at one point. 410 00:19:58,720 --> 00:20:00,879 Speaker 1: I did it for three years, but at that point 411 00:20:00,880 --> 00:20:04,560 Speaker 1: I was in college, ID you know, he was working, 412 00:20:05,160 --> 00:20:07,400 Speaker 1: and I was okay with that setting. At this point 413 00:20:07,400 --> 00:20:09,439 Speaker 1: in my life, I want someone to be with me. 414 00:20:09,560 --> 00:20:11,880 Speaker 1: I need to be able to be in the same 415 00:20:11,880 --> 00:20:14,480 Speaker 1: town with them. You want to have that serious relationship, 416 00:20:14,560 --> 00:20:16,639 Speaker 1: right you've been trying to find. I get that. I 417 00:20:16,680 --> 00:20:19,760 Speaker 1: did long distance for a while after college and going 418 00:20:19,800 --> 00:20:21,280 Speaker 1: on the show. That was the one thing I was 419 00:20:21,320 --> 00:20:23,439 Speaker 1: nervous about coming off of. When I was finally with 420 00:20:23,480 --> 00:20:25,879 Speaker 1: Garrett is I said, I don't want to do long distance, 421 00:20:25,880 --> 00:20:27,919 Speaker 1: so we have to figure out it's where we're going 422 00:20:28,000 --> 00:20:31,040 Speaker 1: to be, and it's you know, your life is changing 423 00:20:31,080 --> 00:20:33,960 Speaker 1: as you have experienced. Your world kind of blows up 424 00:20:34,000 --> 00:20:35,600 Speaker 1: after you get off the show and you have all 425 00:20:35,600 --> 00:20:39,040 Speaker 1: these great opportunities and you're traveling like crazy, which that 426 00:20:39,119 --> 00:20:41,679 Speaker 1: in itself is already hard on a relationship. So adding 427 00:20:41,720 --> 00:20:44,520 Speaker 1: the long distance, I can't imagine how difficult that would 428 00:20:44,520 --> 00:20:46,520 Speaker 1: have been. And I think people are like, oh, like 429 00:20:46,600 --> 00:20:48,440 Speaker 1: you were just parting, You're just having fun, like you 430 00:20:48,480 --> 00:20:50,440 Speaker 1: can make a decision. But it's like also at the 431 00:20:50,480 --> 00:20:52,640 Speaker 1: same time, I need to live my life too, and 432 00:20:53,880 --> 00:20:56,360 Speaker 1: it is opportunities, but it's also work in a way. 433 00:20:56,400 --> 00:20:58,359 Speaker 1: I am working, I was traveling for work. I go 434 00:20:58,440 --> 00:21:00,679 Speaker 1: to a ton of expos so actually there was an 435 00:21:00,680 --> 00:21:03,240 Speaker 1: expot in Baltimore and I was able to see John 436 00:21:03,320 --> 00:21:05,040 Speaker 1: for an hour and a half while I was there. 437 00:21:05,440 --> 00:21:07,159 Speaker 1: So I tried to make it work as much as 438 00:21:07,200 --> 00:21:12,480 Speaker 1: I possibly could, but it really it was hard. Go ahead, 439 00:21:12,640 --> 00:21:14,040 Speaker 1: go ahead, I want to know, so this long di 440 00:21:14,119 --> 00:21:17,840 Speaker 1: since would you say, were you both equally putting in 441 00:21:18,000 --> 00:21:19,760 Speaker 1: that time to try to make it work, or would 442 00:21:19,800 --> 00:21:23,159 Speaker 1: you say you were doing the brunt of it. I 443 00:21:23,160 --> 00:21:25,640 Speaker 1: wouldn't say that. I would say that John did fly 444 00:21:25,720 --> 00:21:28,080 Speaker 1: out to come see me. I would say two weeks 445 00:21:28,119 --> 00:21:35,160 Speaker 1: after I went out to Baltimore to go get him back. 446 00:21:36,000 --> 00:21:38,120 Speaker 1: So he did make an effort with that, and that's 447 00:21:38,119 --> 00:21:39,639 Speaker 1: when he met all of my friends. And at that 448 00:21:39,680 --> 00:21:42,160 Speaker 1: time we were in hiding, so it was kind of silly. Honestly, 449 00:21:42,160 --> 00:21:43,320 Speaker 1: we had to like stay in a car the whole 450 00:21:43,320 --> 00:21:47,960 Speaker 1: time and in a hotel room. But I don't know 451 00:21:48,240 --> 00:21:50,240 Speaker 1: he would like send me he sent me flowers my birthday. 452 00:21:50,400 --> 00:21:52,160 Speaker 1: I really don't know how to say, like who put 453 00:21:52,200 --> 00:21:53,880 Speaker 1: more effort in? Like what do you want me to say? 454 00:21:53,920 --> 00:21:55,840 Speaker 1: Like I called you ten times today and you called 455 00:21:55,880 --> 00:21:58,920 Speaker 1: me only four? You know what I mean? So it's 456 00:21:59,000 --> 00:22:00,919 Speaker 1: kind of hard to say like putting in more effort. 457 00:22:00,960 --> 00:22:03,960 Speaker 1: And I'm sure week is different it is. I'm gonna 458 00:22:04,000 --> 00:22:06,920 Speaker 1: I'm gonna get into some tougher questions. Yeah, please, So 459 00:22:07,840 --> 00:22:11,000 Speaker 1: John Paul Jones announced that he was moving to California, 460 00:22:11,840 --> 00:22:15,960 Speaker 1: So that eliminates the long distance factor, right, has he 461 00:22:16,040 --> 00:22:19,960 Speaker 1: moved here already? He moved here a week ago. Okay, 462 00:22:20,000 --> 00:22:22,040 Speaker 1: so he moved here a week ago, and you guys 463 00:22:22,080 --> 00:22:25,920 Speaker 1: broke up within a week, So I guess it's safe 464 00:22:25,920 --> 00:22:33,040 Speaker 1: to say that long distance wasn't the issue in your relationship. I. Yes, 465 00:22:33,240 --> 00:22:35,880 Speaker 1: there are other factors. There were definitely other factors as 466 00:22:35,880 --> 00:22:38,120 Speaker 1: to why we are not together today, but I will 467 00:22:38,200 --> 00:22:41,600 Speaker 1: say that long distance didn't help it anyway. Yeah, And 468 00:22:41,640 --> 00:22:44,240 Speaker 1: I guess. And I'm asking you because you know, a 469 00:22:44,320 --> 00:22:46,040 Speaker 1: lot of a lot of people have been critical of 470 00:22:46,080 --> 00:22:49,080 Speaker 1: your relationship with John, like, let's just put it out there. 471 00:22:49,440 --> 00:22:51,560 Speaker 1: And I know one of the things that they talk 472 00:22:51,640 --> 00:22:54,600 Speaker 1: about is the fact that, um, you know, they didn't 473 00:22:54,600 --> 00:22:57,320 Speaker 1: believe the relationship that you had with one another. And 474 00:22:57,359 --> 00:23:00,479 Speaker 1: so I want to give you the opportunity to dispel 475 00:23:00,520 --> 00:23:03,880 Speaker 1: those rumors because if you're saying it's distanced, but then 476 00:23:03,920 --> 00:23:07,040 Speaker 1: he moved here, you know, I don't. I don't feel 477 00:23:07,040 --> 00:23:09,640 Speaker 1: like you have to tell everybody exactly why you broke up, 478 00:23:09,680 --> 00:23:13,160 Speaker 1: but just more of saying your piece so people aren't 479 00:23:13,160 --> 00:23:16,600 Speaker 1: putting in their own preconceived notions. Yeah. Yeah, and it's 480 00:23:16,640 --> 00:23:18,680 Speaker 1: hard because they don't want to. Like I will never 481 00:23:18,720 --> 00:23:20,879 Speaker 1: bad mouth John in any way, shape or form, but like, 482 00:23:21,440 --> 00:23:24,800 Speaker 1: we each have our own flaws, and I think communication 483 00:23:24,880 --> 00:23:28,960 Speaker 1: is a really big deal I learned from my previous 484 00:23:28,960 --> 00:23:32,640 Speaker 1: relationship that I would I'm very much so overcommunicative, if 485 00:23:32,680 --> 00:23:35,320 Speaker 1: you will, because I need everyone to know where I'm at, 486 00:23:35,640 --> 00:23:38,440 Speaker 1: and so I know that John can say that I 487 00:23:38,480 --> 00:23:41,280 Speaker 1: am very vocal about my feelings and what's upsetting me, 488 00:23:41,320 --> 00:23:44,960 Speaker 1: what's taking me happy, and giving him backstory so that 489 00:23:45,000 --> 00:23:46,920 Speaker 1: way he knows what he's doing is affecting me in 490 00:23:46,960 --> 00:23:53,600 Speaker 1: a certain way. But that's all I can do. What 491 00:23:53,760 --> 00:23:57,560 Speaker 1: he can do is listen to that and try to 492 00:23:57,680 --> 00:24:01,040 Speaker 1: navigate our relationship with that information I'm giving him. So 493 00:24:01,080 --> 00:24:07,120 Speaker 1: if you're choosing to not I don't know, communicate, If 494 00:24:07,119 --> 00:24:09,040 Speaker 1: you're choosing to have that stuff go in one ear 495 00:24:09,080 --> 00:24:12,080 Speaker 1: and out the other and cause problems, then that's on you. 496 00:24:12,880 --> 00:24:17,399 Speaker 1: Can I just say that dating a financial guy or 497 00:24:17,440 --> 00:24:21,160 Speaker 1: an engineer, like they have the same there it's hard 498 00:24:21,200 --> 00:24:23,880 Speaker 1: to communicate, Like it's hard for them to communicate because 499 00:24:23,880 --> 00:24:27,960 Speaker 1: they think in a different way. There's something about it. Well, 500 00:24:28,000 --> 00:24:31,160 Speaker 1: I'm sure when you're so analytical, yeah maybe not necessarily 501 00:24:31,160 --> 00:24:34,840 Speaker 1: in number is driven, but you're you're ninety five is 502 00:24:34,880 --> 00:24:38,840 Speaker 1: focused on something. It probably is hard to turn that off, 503 00:24:39,000 --> 00:24:42,679 Speaker 1: turn that off and then feel like, oh I can 504 00:24:42,760 --> 00:24:44,199 Speaker 1: let out my feelings and I can talk about my 505 00:24:44,240 --> 00:24:47,320 Speaker 1: emotions and I can. Yeah, I see that. No, Yeah, 506 00:24:47,359 --> 00:24:50,400 Speaker 1: it's tough. Like for me, for example, I'm very analytical, 507 00:24:51,240 --> 00:24:53,560 Speaker 1: but not in the same way like an engineer or 508 00:24:53,800 --> 00:24:56,639 Speaker 1: you know, like a finance guy is. But when it 509 00:24:56,640 --> 00:24:58,760 Speaker 1: comes to it's like I have to learn to turn 510 00:24:58,800 --> 00:25:02,119 Speaker 1: it off. You know, I'm listening to an argument and 511 00:25:02,200 --> 00:25:04,560 Speaker 1: poking holes in it and I'm just supposed to be 512 00:25:04,600 --> 00:25:07,000 Speaker 1: having a conversation, you know, in my relationships. So you 513 00:25:07,040 --> 00:25:09,560 Speaker 1: have to learn how to turn it off. And that 514 00:25:09,600 --> 00:25:12,960 Speaker 1: comes with age and experience. You know. I wasn't always 515 00:25:13,000 --> 00:25:15,160 Speaker 1: able to do that, and I still struggle with it. 516 00:25:15,440 --> 00:25:17,840 Speaker 1: And so it just sounds like maybe you guys were 517 00:25:17,840 --> 00:25:19,760 Speaker 1: on two different pages. Is that fair to say? It 518 00:25:19,880 --> 00:25:22,600 Speaker 1: is fair to say, And I definitely told him. I'm like, hey, honestly, 519 00:25:22,840 --> 00:25:24,919 Speaker 1: I just want you to experience a little bit more life. 520 00:25:25,000 --> 00:25:26,320 Speaker 1: I feel like you just need to live a little 521 00:25:26,320 --> 00:25:28,080 Speaker 1: bit and learn a little bit, because I feel like 522 00:25:29,440 --> 00:25:31,400 Speaker 1: I can only do so much and I can only 523 00:25:31,400 --> 00:25:33,680 Speaker 1: give you so much insight into me. But if you 524 00:25:33,840 --> 00:25:36,720 Speaker 1: are just stuck in your own ways and you're like 525 00:25:36,800 --> 00:25:38,959 Speaker 1: kind of trying to dive in deeper to what I'm 526 00:25:38,960 --> 00:25:40,920 Speaker 1: trying to tell you, it's and make issues. It's not. 527 00:25:41,000 --> 00:25:42,760 Speaker 1: It's not going to benefit this in any way. And 528 00:25:42,800 --> 00:25:46,760 Speaker 1: how old is JPJ? He's twenty four? Twenty four, I 529 00:25:46,840 --> 00:25:50,040 Speaker 1: know anyone says that, but he has like a job, 530 00:25:50,520 --> 00:25:53,040 Speaker 1: he does have his feet on the ground. Yeah, yeah, 531 00:25:53,280 --> 00:25:55,200 Speaker 1: the youngest in He was the youngest in his firm 532 00:25:55,240 --> 00:25:59,200 Speaker 1: for quite some time. Now, you know that's a serious, 533 00:25:58,280 --> 00:26:01,440 Speaker 1: it's over there. I just have a weird thing where 534 00:26:01,520 --> 00:26:05,280 Speaker 1: I when I was a bouchelor and they asked, Okay, 535 00:26:05,280 --> 00:26:07,600 Speaker 1: what's your type when we're looking I was like, I 536 00:26:07,600 --> 00:26:09,199 Speaker 1: don't have a type, but I just want them to 537 00:26:09,280 --> 00:26:12,040 Speaker 1: be my age or older. I was not looking to 538 00:26:12,119 --> 00:26:15,080 Speaker 1: date anyone younger. And that's just me personally. And I've 539 00:26:15,160 --> 00:26:17,320 Speaker 1: dated guys that are younger than me and obviously it 540 00:26:17,359 --> 00:26:19,919 Speaker 1: didn't work out. But I'm like, I need them to 541 00:26:19,960 --> 00:26:22,720 Speaker 1: like be on my same level and to have experienced 542 00:26:22,800 --> 00:26:25,680 Speaker 1: enough life. And obviously it takes men a little bit 543 00:26:25,720 --> 00:26:29,120 Speaker 1: longer than women to grow up and mature. And so 544 00:26:29,480 --> 00:26:31,840 Speaker 1: I mean props to you because I feel like I 545 00:26:32,119 --> 00:26:34,600 Speaker 1: would maybe have shut down and just like seeing only 546 00:26:34,680 --> 00:26:37,399 Speaker 1: the numbers, and so I'm glad that you still opened 547 00:26:37,400 --> 00:26:41,119 Speaker 1: yourself up to somebody who and you know everything. For 548 00:26:41,160 --> 00:26:44,000 Speaker 1: the most part, he does sound great. It's just the 549 00:26:44,920 --> 00:26:49,879 Speaker 1: age barrier and the communication immaturity. Yeah, you know. I 550 00:26:50,200 --> 00:26:52,600 Speaker 1: mean John is definitely not the typical guy would go 551 00:26:52,640 --> 00:26:55,760 Speaker 1: after in the sense of his age and his fun, 552 00:26:55,920 --> 00:26:57,679 Speaker 1: goofy nature and all that kind of stuff. Usually look 553 00:26:57,720 --> 00:26:59,240 Speaker 1: for a guy that's a little bit more serious and 554 00:26:59,640 --> 00:27:01,320 Speaker 1: a little older and all that stuff. But that's why 555 00:27:01,359 --> 00:27:03,760 Speaker 1: I went after him because obviously I'm not finding someone 556 00:27:04,840 --> 00:27:08,200 Speaker 1: where my standards are so like, what if this guy 557 00:27:08,480 --> 00:27:11,520 Speaker 1: is exactly what I want, it's just package a little differently, 558 00:27:11,760 --> 00:27:16,000 Speaker 1: you know, Like I feel like, oh gosh, I said 559 00:27:16,000 --> 00:27:17,760 Speaker 1: I was gonna ask you tough questions, So I'm just 560 00:27:17,840 --> 00:27:20,800 Speaker 1: asking because I want you to have the opportunity to 561 00:27:20,840 --> 00:27:25,919 Speaker 1: just be completely clear. J p J said that he 562 00:27:26,000 --> 00:27:31,159 Speaker 1: moved to la for you. Well, one, is that true, 563 00:27:31,680 --> 00:27:34,919 Speaker 1: because if it is, then it kind of goes to 564 00:27:35,000 --> 00:27:37,800 Speaker 1: the listening that you need him around you don't want 565 00:27:37,800 --> 00:27:39,760 Speaker 1: to do the distance. It seems like he was really 566 00:27:39,760 --> 00:27:42,240 Speaker 1: trying to make the relationship work. So did he move 567 00:27:42,280 --> 00:27:46,600 Speaker 1: to LA for you? And this article makes me It 568 00:27:46,640 --> 00:27:50,000 Speaker 1: makes me upset to be honest with you because he 569 00:27:50,920 --> 00:27:53,200 Speaker 1: Obviously John wants to be closer to me, that's one thing, 570 00:27:53,240 --> 00:27:55,199 Speaker 1: But he did not move to La for me, And 571 00:27:55,240 --> 00:27:59,240 Speaker 1: the fact that that's like the headline really does piss 572 00:27:59,320 --> 00:28:02,840 Speaker 1: me off because since the very beginning, and I've told 573 00:28:02,880 --> 00:28:06,560 Speaker 1: my friends, my family, like everyone knows this, I will 574 00:28:06,680 --> 00:28:10,639 Speaker 1: not have someone move for me unless we're in a 575 00:28:10,680 --> 00:28:14,919 Speaker 1: serious relationship, whether it be engagement, to whether it be 576 00:28:14,960 --> 00:28:17,280 Speaker 1: we've been dating you for four years, whatever it is. 577 00:28:18,200 --> 00:28:21,239 Speaker 1: I did that in the past, and I ended up 578 00:28:21,240 --> 00:28:24,040 Speaker 1: resenting that person. And it's because I quit my job. 579 00:28:24,160 --> 00:28:25,960 Speaker 1: I upwroarted my life. I moved away from my family 580 00:28:26,000 --> 00:28:29,040 Speaker 1: and my friends, and I became depressed. I was not happy. 581 00:28:29,240 --> 00:28:30,800 Speaker 1: But I did it because I wanted to be with 582 00:28:30,840 --> 00:28:35,200 Speaker 1: that person. Yeah, so I know how that feels. And 583 00:28:35,600 --> 00:28:37,159 Speaker 1: the last thing I would I've ever want is for 584 00:28:37,240 --> 00:28:39,560 Speaker 1: John to quit a job that he worked so hard 585 00:28:39,600 --> 00:28:42,280 Speaker 1: to get and that's what he went to school for him, 586 00:28:42,480 --> 00:28:45,280 Speaker 1: move away from his family, his friends, come to tan where. 587 00:28:45,600 --> 00:28:48,000 Speaker 1: You know, LA's not for everyone. I hate La. I'll 588 00:28:48,000 --> 00:28:51,320 Speaker 1: never move La. Okay, let's just be honest. So for 589 00:28:51,440 --> 00:28:54,560 Speaker 1: him to come down here and then just not feel 590 00:28:54,640 --> 00:28:57,600 Speaker 1: himself and then say we didn't work out. Now he's here, 591 00:28:57,960 --> 00:29:00,400 Speaker 1: and why did he move here. He moved because he 592 00:29:00,440 --> 00:29:03,720 Speaker 1: wanted to be an actor, and because he was getting 593 00:29:03,760 --> 00:29:06,800 Speaker 1: auditions and he didn't it was just easier for him 594 00:29:06,840 --> 00:29:10,600 Speaker 1: to attend those as opposed to flying out. That's why 595 00:29:10,600 --> 00:29:12,880 Speaker 1: he moved here. And he knew that story since the 596 00:29:12,960 --> 00:29:16,800 Speaker 1: very beginning. So now that people are like ll tation, 597 00:29:16,880 --> 00:29:18,800 Speaker 1: he just uparated its entire life for you. It makes 598 00:29:18,800 --> 00:29:21,160 Speaker 1: you look like the come on, that's why. Hey, when 599 00:29:21,160 --> 00:29:24,200 Speaker 1: people just read headlines and they don't like listen to 600 00:29:24,240 --> 00:29:28,360 Speaker 1: other sides or even read the full story. And I 601 00:29:28,400 --> 00:29:31,840 Speaker 1: will say, like, coming off of the show, you're, like 602 00:29:31,880 --> 00:29:34,600 Speaker 1: I said, your entire world was kind of flipped upside down, 603 00:29:34,600 --> 00:29:37,480 Speaker 1: and you have so many opportunities, so many invites to 604 00:29:37,600 --> 00:29:40,480 Speaker 1: all these great places in LA because everything happens here. 605 00:29:40,840 --> 00:29:43,400 Speaker 1: And I'm sure you know, being a guy coming from 606 00:29:43,440 --> 00:29:46,080 Speaker 1: the show, you have all this new found notoriety and 607 00:29:46,160 --> 00:29:49,120 Speaker 1: attention and of course like it's fun and it's shiny 608 00:29:49,160 --> 00:29:52,040 Speaker 1: and exciting. So they're definitely I could see why he 609 00:29:53,640 --> 00:29:56,960 Speaker 1: would move right, especially if you wants to be an actor, 610 00:29:56,960 --> 00:29:59,240 Speaker 1: to come to this area because that's where it's all happening, right, 611 00:29:59,560 --> 00:30:01,400 Speaker 1: But for him to just say, oh, I moved here 612 00:30:01,440 --> 00:30:03,880 Speaker 1: solely for her, that does make you look like the 613 00:30:03,920 --> 00:30:08,360 Speaker 1: bad guy. And it does much more too the story, 614 00:30:08,560 --> 00:30:12,000 Speaker 1: which is why you go back to communication. It goes 615 00:30:12,040 --> 00:30:14,080 Speaker 1: back to are you listening to me? You know what 616 00:30:14,160 --> 00:30:17,600 Speaker 1: I mean? So don't make it seem like something else 617 00:30:17,640 --> 00:30:19,520 Speaker 1: when it's really not. And I've like poured out my 618 00:30:19,560 --> 00:30:24,720 Speaker 1: heart and told you how I feel, do you know what? 619 00:30:24,920 --> 00:30:27,080 Speaker 1: And I think that's fair and thank you for being 620 00:30:27,120 --> 00:30:31,720 Speaker 1: honest about that. And I think what perpetuates the storyline 621 00:30:31,840 --> 00:30:36,800 Speaker 1: even further of he moved it from you you left him, 622 00:30:36,800 --> 00:30:38,880 Speaker 1: making it seem like you weren't as interested in him 623 00:30:39,320 --> 00:30:42,920 Speaker 1: as when you have other people from Bachelor Nation start 624 00:30:42,960 --> 00:30:47,719 Speaker 1: putting their input into whatever the story is right, And 625 00:30:47,760 --> 00:30:51,120 Speaker 1: I think that that's not fair because only truly, only 626 00:30:51,160 --> 00:30:53,959 Speaker 1: you and jp J know what happened in your relationship 627 00:30:53,960 --> 00:30:57,120 Speaker 1: as many times as you tell the story, but because 628 00:30:57,160 --> 00:30:59,440 Speaker 1: we're all a part of this franchise, when another person 629 00:30:59,480 --> 00:31:02,880 Speaker 1: from the France speaks out about it, it holds, whether 630 00:31:02,960 --> 00:31:05,760 Speaker 1: true or not, some clout because they come from this franchise. 631 00:31:06,000 --> 00:31:09,800 Speaker 1: So I'm going somewhere with this story. Are you cool 632 00:31:09,800 --> 00:31:14,520 Speaker 1: with Dylan. I don't know. I don't know. I didn't 633 00:31:14,520 --> 00:31:16,400 Speaker 1: think there was anything wrong between us, do you know what? 634 00:31:16,600 --> 00:31:20,880 Speaker 1: Apparently there is? So Dylan tweeted right after your announcement, 635 00:31:21,160 --> 00:31:24,920 Speaker 1: color me shocked. I think everybody took that as a 636 00:31:25,000 --> 00:31:30,440 Speaker 1: reference to what you had just announced. Yeah, And I'm 637 00:31:30,440 --> 00:31:32,440 Speaker 1: asking if you're cool because first of all, I'm trying 638 00:31:32,480 --> 00:31:34,280 Speaker 1: to just, you know, take away the fact that he 639 00:31:34,400 --> 00:31:37,400 Speaker 1: actually even knows what he's talking about where he when 640 00:31:37,480 --> 00:31:40,520 Speaker 1: he tweets that. But when you see things like that, 641 00:31:41,040 --> 00:31:44,560 Speaker 1: how does that make you feel? It's like, really like 642 00:31:44,720 --> 00:31:48,920 Speaker 1: you saw us in Paradise number one, Okay, you know us, 643 00:31:49,360 --> 00:31:53,240 Speaker 1: you know me. Why you're sharing the pot you're just 644 00:31:53,240 --> 00:31:55,280 Speaker 1: putting in other people's heads like you're validating like their 645 00:31:55,320 --> 00:31:57,400 Speaker 1: speculation about my relationship And you don't even know what 646 00:31:57,440 --> 00:32:00,680 Speaker 1: I'm talking about or my relationship. So what's his input? 647 00:32:00,760 --> 00:32:03,360 Speaker 1: I don't understand, honestly, I hate to I don't know well, 648 00:32:03,400 --> 00:32:07,760 Speaker 1: And I don't get like everyone has their opinions, everyone 649 00:32:07,800 --> 00:32:09,880 Speaker 1: has the right to comment on things. I don't get 650 00:32:09,960 --> 00:32:14,000 Speaker 1: the pointless tweets and the pointless comments, Like for me, 651 00:32:15,480 --> 00:32:17,440 Speaker 1: it's just kind of a waste of everyone's time. It's 652 00:32:17,480 --> 00:32:19,560 Speaker 1: kind of like, you know how we all get DM 653 00:32:19,560 --> 00:32:21,520 Speaker 1: it's about everything, And half the time, it's like, why 654 00:32:21,520 --> 00:32:23,480 Speaker 1: did you even feel the need to type that out 655 00:32:23,480 --> 00:32:26,480 Speaker 1: and take time out of your day to write that 656 00:32:26,560 --> 00:32:28,320 Speaker 1: and then take time out of my day or everyone 657 00:32:28,320 --> 00:32:30,080 Speaker 1: else's day to read that when you're not going to 658 00:32:30,160 --> 00:32:32,160 Speaker 1: even give any more context to it. It just it 659 00:32:32,200 --> 00:32:33,960 Speaker 1: doesn't make sense to me. Oh, it makes sense to me. 660 00:32:34,320 --> 00:32:37,520 Speaker 1: I think it's just purely for attention. Yeah, and just 661 00:32:37,600 --> 00:32:40,400 Speaker 1: for attention. I think Dylan doesn't because we were fine 662 00:32:40,400 --> 00:32:42,160 Speaker 1: on the beach. I don't know if it's he doesn't 663 00:32:42,160 --> 00:32:44,920 Speaker 1: like me anymore because Hannah and I had like a 664 00:32:44,960 --> 00:32:47,960 Speaker 1: little bit of a tiff, which want to but the 665 00:32:48,120 --> 00:32:50,360 Speaker 1: thing is, Hannah, if Hannah did that to me, I 666 00:32:50,400 --> 00:32:54,680 Speaker 1: could understand. Dylan, Okay, just because you're her fiance. Now 667 00:32:54,720 --> 00:32:56,440 Speaker 1: you're gonna like poke fun at me and like try 668 00:32:56,480 --> 00:32:59,360 Speaker 1: to like start a fine with me. It's dead and done. 669 00:32:59,400 --> 00:33:03,720 Speaker 1: Like Danna and I are not feuding? Are you and 670 00:33:03,920 --> 00:33:08,280 Speaker 1: JPJ friends? Um? I wouldn't say, so, Okay, I don't 671 00:33:08,280 --> 00:33:10,760 Speaker 1: think there's any beef there or on John's part, but 672 00:33:11,720 --> 00:33:17,760 Speaker 1: apparently maybe on Dylan's. Yeah, So going back to hands, Yes, 673 00:33:18,480 --> 00:33:21,920 Speaker 1: we saw some tension. Have been on the stage during 674 00:33:21,960 --> 00:33:26,400 Speaker 1: the finale. Where are you guys at now? Um, we 675 00:33:26,480 --> 00:33:29,640 Speaker 1: don't communicate, so it's just dead and done. And but 676 00:33:29,800 --> 00:33:32,480 Speaker 1: that's nothing like, that's nothing different, Like we were never 677 00:33:32,520 --> 00:33:35,040 Speaker 1: ever texting each other all the time or right hanging 678 00:33:35,040 --> 00:33:37,880 Speaker 1: out her. So you get so after Colton's season obviously 679 00:33:37,920 --> 00:33:40,440 Speaker 1: where you met. Were you ever close on that season 680 00:33:40,520 --> 00:33:42,280 Speaker 1: or was it more because I get it, like living 681 00:33:42,440 --> 00:33:45,040 Speaker 1: with thirty some girls, you're not going to be best 682 00:33:45,040 --> 00:33:47,800 Speaker 1: friends with everyone. There's definitely girls on my season, well 683 00:33:47,840 --> 00:33:50,440 Speaker 1: are a season that I you know, I respect them, 684 00:33:50,480 --> 00:33:52,760 Speaker 1: but I'm I don't ever feel the need to tell 685 00:33:52,840 --> 00:33:54,800 Speaker 1: them or checking on them, and you don't have to. 686 00:33:55,720 --> 00:33:57,160 Speaker 1: You don't have to. And I think that that's a 687 00:33:57,160 --> 00:33:59,520 Speaker 1: big misconception. We've talked about it here on the podcast, 688 00:33:59,600 --> 00:34:02,239 Speaker 1: is that people think because we all came from this 689 00:34:02,280 --> 00:34:04,560 Speaker 1: world together, that we're all supposed to be best friends. 690 00:34:04,600 --> 00:34:07,720 Speaker 1: You can be friendly and cordial and that's fine, but 691 00:34:07,800 --> 00:34:10,320 Speaker 1: my god, the show's been all for seventeen years. It's exhausting. 692 00:34:10,400 --> 00:34:16,040 Speaker 1: There's so many of us. Yeah, no, for sure, but no, 693 00:34:16,239 --> 00:34:19,640 Speaker 1: I really I'm really glad you were being open and 694 00:34:19,680 --> 00:34:22,800 Speaker 1: honest and spoke about like other people having their input 695 00:34:23,120 --> 00:34:27,359 Speaker 1: on issues they know absolutely nothing about, because it's just, 696 00:34:27,880 --> 00:34:30,880 Speaker 1: you know, you're already going through your own thing. You know, 697 00:34:30,920 --> 00:34:34,360 Speaker 1: people forget that you actually experienced a break up and 698 00:34:34,840 --> 00:34:38,400 Speaker 1: you're trying to get over that, and so is John, 699 00:34:38,680 --> 00:34:40,680 Speaker 1: you know, in his defense as well, and now you 700 00:34:40,719 --> 00:34:43,080 Speaker 1: have to defend yourself to people you don't even know 701 00:34:43,560 --> 00:34:47,359 Speaker 1: when things like this happen, right, And they have their 702 00:34:47,360 --> 00:34:49,120 Speaker 1: own platform, they have a lot of people that follow 703 00:34:49,160 --> 00:34:51,399 Speaker 1: them and look at you know, look up to them. 704 00:34:51,480 --> 00:34:53,200 Speaker 1: So if you're just putting it out there, it's just 705 00:34:53,760 --> 00:34:56,839 Speaker 1: bad juju. Stay away from me. Can I just get 706 00:34:56,880 --> 00:35:00,040 Speaker 1: some detail about it? Because obviously it's a show, so 707 00:35:00,200 --> 00:35:02,759 Speaker 1: things are edited in a certain way. And yeah, you know, 708 00:35:03,040 --> 00:35:05,600 Speaker 1: things that don't seem like a small deal could be 709 00:35:05,600 --> 00:35:07,880 Speaker 1: bigger things that are a big deal that are shown. 710 00:35:07,920 --> 00:35:11,279 Speaker 1: Probably Eric, that's big. So what was so you make 711 00:35:11,360 --> 00:35:13,960 Speaker 1: it seem like you and Hannah didn't you know? It 712 00:35:14,000 --> 00:35:16,360 Speaker 1: was it was more of just an understanding that you 713 00:35:16,400 --> 00:35:18,280 Speaker 1: guys didn't need to be best friends. It was pretty 714 00:35:19,440 --> 00:35:22,440 Speaker 1: There wasn't like any real feeling or tension. Was there 715 00:35:22,560 --> 00:35:25,080 Speaker 1: tension going into Paradise or was it after the fact 716 00:35:25,120 --> 00:35:27,399 Speaker 1: that she had been dating Blake and then he took 717 00:35:27,400 --> 00:35:30,960 Speaker 1: you on the first date and there was no tension 718 00:35:31,040 --> 00:35:33,400 Speaker 1: going into Paradise or at all with any of the women. 719 00:35:34,760 --> 00:35:37,359 Speaker 1: I think it's just just the way things unfolded. It 720 00:35:37,400 --> 00:35:41,359 Speaker 1: was just like it. I'm usually upfront and honest, that's 721 00:35:41,360 --> 00:35:44,000 Speaker 1: just how I am. Apparently I was naive going into 722 00:35:44,000 --> 00:35:47,600 Speaker 1: Paradise thinking that you actually genuinely meet people on the 723 00:35:47,600 --> 00:35:50,719 Speaker 1: beach to try to date them, and not prior to 724 00:35:50,840 --> 00:35:54,080 Speaker 1: the show. So maybe that's my own problem, but it 725 00:35:54,200 --> 00:35:56,000 Speaker 1: just rubbed me the wrong way. That's It's as simple 726 00:35:56,040 --> 00:35:59,000 Speaker 1: as that. And so I confronted her at the end 727 00:35:59,040 --> 00:36:01,200 Speaker 1: of the finale or the reunion, whatever you want to 728 00:36:01,239 --> 00:36:03,920 Speaker 1: call it. We did say like, hey, I'm sorry, like 729 00:36:03,960 --> 00:36:06,239 Speaker 1: that everything was it blew up the way it did. 730 00:36:06,680 --> 00:36:09,160 Speaker 1: Let's just move on and be happy. So that's why 731 00:36:09,160 --> 00:36:11,160 Speaker 1: I'm saying when Dylan says this stuff, it's like, obviously 732 00:36:11,160 --> 00:36:13,839 Speaker 1: you still harbor some type of like and in your 733 00:36:13,840 --> 00:36:16,040 Speaker 1: mind it's already in the past. It's done, it doesn't 734 00:36:16,040 --> 00:36:20,239 Speaker 1: need to be brought up again. Move on. What I'm over, 735 00:36:20,680 --> 00:36:24,360 Speaker 1: I'm muting. No, I'm muting myself. I like, I hate 736 00:36:24,360 --> 00:36:26,360 Speaker 1: that that you had to defenders, truly had to defend 737 00:36:26,360 --> 00:36:28,560 Speaker 1: yourself when it comes to that. But I like that 738 00:36:28,640 --> 00:36:30,560 Speaker 1: you spoke on you and Hannah, and I like that 739 00:36:30,800 --> 00:36:32,360 Speaker 1: just because you don't have to be friends, but you 740 00:36:32,360 --> 00:36:34,800 Speaker 1: guys squashed everything. You've just moved on with your lives 741 00:36:35,000 --> 00:36:36,839 Speaker 1: and that's good. Like I'm glad to know that there's 742 00:36:36,880 --> 00:36:38,759 Speaker 1: no beef when it comes to that. And even though 743 00:36:38,840 --> 00:36:41,480 Speaker 1: Dylan did insert himself with a tweet, I hope that 744 00:36:41,560 --> 00:36:43,239 Speaker 1: that doesn't stir anything up because I think you and 745 00:36:43,280 --> 00:36:46,120 Speaker 1: Hannah are cool. Yeah moving forward, I mean, yeah, I 746 00:36:46,160 --> 00:36:47,799 Speaker 1: saw it and I just rolled my eyes. And yeah, 747 00:36:47,800 --> 00:36:50,080 Speaker 1: because you and Hannah were Holton's top three. I mean 748 00:36:50,120 --> 00:36:54,040 Speaker 1: that in itself, very few people experience that sort of feeling, 749 00:36:54,120 --> 00:36:57,240 Speaker 1: that way of dating, and so in some sort of sense, 750 00:36:57,400 --> 00:36:59,560 Speaker 1: I would hope that you guys have that mutual respect 751 00:36:59,560 --> 00:37:01,120 Speaker 1: for each other to get to that point and know 752 00:37:01,160 --> 00:37:03,000 Speaker 1: what it felt like. And yeah, again, you don't have 753 00:37:03,000 --> 00:37:05,680 Speaker 1: to be best friends, but to still understand we went 754 00:37:05,719 --> 00:37:09,319 Speaker 1: through something. And when I say I bonded you in 755 00:37:09,360 --> 00:37:11,000 Speaker 1: a way, it doesn't have to be like a best 756 00:37:11,000 --> 00:37:13,560 Speaker 1: friend bond, but it so bonded you and you guys 757 00:37:13,640 --> 00:37:16,960 Speaker 1: understood it, and so then to kind of go from 758 00:37:17,000 --> 00:37:20,480 Speaker 1: that into paradise again where you're potentially dating the same people, 759 00:37:20,560 --> 00:37:22,200 Speaker 1: you just have to understand like that's the name of 760 00:37:22,239 --> 00:37:24,279 Speaker 1: the game. But you don't have to like hate each 761 00:37:24,280 --> 00:37:26,839 Speaker 1: other or be best sis in that situation, right, And 762 00:37:26,920 --> 00:37:29,480 Speaker 1: I think even more so not only were you to 763 00:37:29,520 --> 00:37:33,200 Speaker 1: the top three, but because of the way that finale ended, 764 00:37:33,200 --> 00:37:36,719 Speaker 1: and there was just so much attention around it, not 765 00:37:36,800 --> 00:37:39,319 Speaker 1: just because of the fence, but just because of what 766 00:37:39,520 --> 00:37:41,920 Speaker 1: happened to you and Hannah and how you guys were 767 00:37:42,000 --> 00:37:45,359 Speaker 1: let go. I think you also shared something too, even 768 00:37:45,400 --> 00:37:48,400 Speaker 1: more so than it's never happened before. And anyway, I 769 00:37:48,800 --> 00:37:51,000 Speaker 1: never experienced quite like that. Like, yeah, I was with 770 00:37:51,080 --> 00:37:54,000 Speaker 1: Lauren and Kendall in my top three, and but that 771 00:37:54,080 --> 00:37:56,719 Speaker 1: was more standard. It was more of the show structure. 772 00:37:56,760 --> 00:38:00,200 Speaker 1: But yeah, yours goes beyond that. It's still different. And 773 00:38:00,200 --> 00:38:02,680 Speaker 1: like we also message each other, or actually right before 774 00:38:02,719 --> 00:38:05,279 Speaker 1: that finale with Colton that we were like you got this, 775 00:38:05,400 --> 00:38:08,279 Speaker 1: Like we're supporting each other. Yeah, girl power are we 776 00:38:08,360 --> 00:38:10,240 Speaker 1: got it? And it sounds like y'all still do support 777 00:38:10,280 --> 00:38:13,000 Speaker 1: each other. I hope. Yeah, it really does, at least 778 00:38:13,000 --> 00:38:15,560 Speaker 1: on my end. You know, you know, something that you 779 00:38:15,640 --> 00:38:17,879 Speaker 1: said stuck with me. It made me think of something 780 00:38:17,920 --> 00:38:21,600 Speaker 1: else when you talked about coming into Paradise and you 781 00:38:21,640 --> 00:38:25,040 Speaker 1: didn't realize that all the stuff that had gone down 782 00:38:25,040 --> 00:38:27,960 Speaker 1: before and it's it's new. It's it's really I always 783 00:38:28,120 --> 00:38:32,080 Speaker 1: I compare it to sports. It's tampering all this contact 784 00:38:32,160 --> 00:38:35,200 Speaker 1: before you know Paradise, and some people are a fan 785 00:38:35,239 --> 00:38:37,680 Speaker 1: of it, some people are against it. I personally am 786 00:38:37,719 --> 00:38:40,040 Speaker 1: on the side of being against it. I know there's 787 00:38:40,040 --> 00:38:42,439 Speaker 1: gonna be some communication, but not like the way things 788 00:38:42,440 --> 00:38:46,640 Speaker 1: went down. It was a lot. It was and it 789 00:38:46,680 --> 00:38:49,640 Speaker 1: got ugly and messy, and we saw it play out before, during, 790 00:38:49,680 --> 00:38:53,680 Speaker 1: and after Paradise. But I feel like you have such 791 00:38:53,680 --> 00:38:58,560 Speaker 1: a different perspective coming into this entire franchise because you 792 00:38:58,600 --> 00:39:01,520 Speaker 1: are a minority in the sin of you have been 793 00:39:01,520 --> 00:39:06,200 Speaker 1: married before and then you've experienced the heartbreak of losing 794 00:39:06,239 --> 00:39:09,200 Speaker 1: that relationship in the divorce, and you went through some 795 00:39:09,200 --> 00:39:11,160 Speaker 1: things in that relationship, and I remember you talking about 796 00:39:11,160 --> 00:39:15,520 Speaker 1: it on Colton's season. Do you feel like that does 797 00:39:15,640 --> 00:39:18,160 Speaker 1: really affect you as far as how you navigate these 798 00:39:18,200 --> 00:39:21,440 Speaker 1: relationships when it comes to this franchise of course, like 799 00:39:21,480 --> 00:39:23,200 Speaker 1: I'm not going to waste my time. And that's the 800 00:39:23,239 --> 00:39:26,319 Speaker 1: same thing with like how it worked out with John 801 00:39:26,320 --> 00:39:28,480 Speaker 1: and I in Paradise. It's like, I'm not going to 802 00:39:28,560 --> 00:39:29,920 Speaker 1: waste your time. I'm not going to waste my time 803 00:39:29,960 --> 00:39:31,319 Speaker 1: if I'm not going to feel I'm not gonna say 804 00:39:31,320 --> 00:39:33,360 Speaker 1: I'm gonna I feel something when I don't, you know 805 00:39:33,400 --> 00:39:37,560 Speaker 1: what I mean. And also with Derek, I didn't see 806 00:39:37,600 --> 00:39:39,440 Speaker 1: potential there, so I'm not going to lead him on 807 00:39:39,480 --> 00:39:41,680 Speaker 1: and be like, oh, let's play around and stick around, 808 00:39:41,680 --> 00:39:42,920 Speaker 1: like That's not the name of the game for me. 809 00:39:43,520 --> 00:39:46,399 Speaker 1: It's I'm trying to find someone, you know what I mean, well, 810 00:39:46,440 --> 00:39:48,480 Speaker 1: and which it seems like this season not for you, 811 00:39:48,640 --> 00:39:50,960 Speaker 1: of course, but for others where it was this is 812 00:39:50,960 --> 00:39:54,080 Speaker 1: a friendship, Rose, and I wanted give it to you 813 00:39:54,120 --> 00:39:56,759 Speaker 1: to stick around longer and hope that you reciprocate next week. 814 00:39:56,760 --> 00:40:00,800 Speaker 1: It just right. And again, I haven't watched of Paradise 815 00:40:00,960 --> 00:40:04,319 Speaker 1: one full season just because I get Aunty and I 816 00:40:04,400 --> 00:40:07,399 Speaker 1: can't just it just me. But but I did watch 817 00:40:07,440 --> 00:40:09,399 Speaker 1: some of it, and so it felt it. I mean, 818 00:40:09,440 --> 00:40:11,160 Speaker 1: I know the premise of the show. Of course they've 819 00:40:11,200 --> 00:40:14,640 Speaker 1: seen bits and pieces, So it seemed weird that that 820 00:40:14,840 --> 00:40:17,560 Speaker 1: was for some people the motive right where it didn't 821 00:40:17,560 --> 00:40:19,200 Speaker 1: feel like, then why are you going to Paradise? Like 822 00:40:19,200 --> 00:40:21,480 Speaker 1: why don't you just have friendships back home? And that's 823 00:40:21,520 --> 00:40:23,760 Speaker 1: my point, like figure it out at home. You clearly 824 00:40:23,760 --> 00:40:26,840 Speaker 1: like each other. Just why do you need to go 825 00:40:26,920 --> 00:40:28,960 Speaker 1: on the beach? You know? I mean, I'll tell you 826 00:40:29,000 --> 00:40:33,040 Speaker 1: why because you have a onethlong vacation. In my room, 827 00:40:33,200 --> 00:40:35,680 Speaker 1: I heard the shrimp tacos are amazing. They are bomb. 828 00:40:35,880 --> 00:40:39,320 Speaker 1: Actually the food is amazing in paradise. Your paradise is miserable. 829 00:40:39,640 --> 00:40:44,399 Speaker 1: It is the food. I can I take a break 830 00:40:44,400 --> 00:40:50,640 Speaker 1: from Garrett for Yeah, who are you close with in 831 00:40:50,719 --> 00:40:54,080 Speaker 1: the franchise? Like? Who do you consider a friend? Um? 832 00:40:54,160 --> 00:40:59,320 Speaker 1: There's actually quite a few. Um, Sydney, She's a real one. 833 00:40:59,440 --> 00:41:03,879 Speaker 1: Nicole Um Christian actually has become one of my really 834 00:41:03,880 --> 00:41:10,080 Speaker 1: good friends as well, Demise Christian. Um? Who else? Katherine? 835 00:41:10,080 --> 00:41:12,600 Speaker 1: Do you guys remember Katherine? I actually met her and 836 00:41:12,600 --> 00:41:16,640 Speaker 1: she's very She's literally everything. I love her. Katherine, she's 837 00:41:16,680 --> 00:41:19,480 Speaker 1: one that interrupted Colton four times with the dog? Um? 838 00:41:21,080 --> 00:41:25,000 Speaker 1: Who else? I don't know? Kurtpa That was my thinking, 839 00:41:25,000 --> 00:41:27,000 Speaker 1: Oh my god, I'm gonna get so many messages saying like, Titia, 840 00:41:27,239 --> 00:41:31,279 Speaker 1: really you forgot about me. There's a there's a there's 841 00:41:31,320 --> 00:41:33,080 Speaker 1: a few of them. You know who you are? Yeah, 842 00:41:33,160 --> 00:41:35,799 Speaker 1: they know exactly who they are. I was asking that 843 00:41:35,920 --> 00:41:38,360 Speaker 1: question for a reason why, I like, no, no, no, not, 844 00:41:38,560 --> 00:41:42,080 Speaker 1: I just forgot my question. I was going somewhere with 845 00:41:42,200 --> 00:41:45,240 Speaker 1: wondering who your friends were, and I forgot the guys. 846 00:41:45,239 --> 00:41:50,560 Speaker 1: Any of the guys I don't. I don't text them often. 847 00:41:51,000 --> 00:41:54,360 Speaker 1: That's like what you're asking. I'm trying to think. I 848 00:41:54,400 --> 00:41:57,120 Speaker 1: don't know. It's a weird world. It really is. It's 849 00:41:57,160 --> 00:42:00,359 Speaker 1: there's a I can't even remember my name half the time, 850 00:42:00,440 --> 00:42:02,560 Speaker 1: so to like, I will say I'm still friends with 851 00:42:02,560 --> 00:42:04,840 Speaker 1: a couple of the girls in my season, but only 852 00:42:04,840 --> 00:42:07,800 Speaker 1: a handful. Yeah, because it's it's just say those that 853 00:42:07,840 --> 00:42:10,080 Speaker 1: I mentioned I texted daily. Yeah yeah, I mean, well, 854 00:42:10,080 --> 00:42:12,600 Speaker 1: and those ones live so close, right, so I mean 855 00:42:12,680 --> 00:42:15,040 Speaker 1: except for Nicole, but like I swear Nicole will fly 856 00:42:15,080 --> 00:42:17,360 Speaker 1: down here tomorrow if I needed her. So, oh my gosh, 857 00:42:17,360 --> 00:42:20,040 Speaker 1: this seems like that was it was it you that 858 00:42:20,160 --> 00:42:22,719 Speaker 1: like pushed her one of there's a memo there that 859 00:42:22,800 --> 00:42:24,960 Speaker 1: I think I watched like twenty seven times because I 860 00:42:24,960 --> 00:42:27,640 Speaker 1: thought it was so funny. It was well, was it 861 00:42:27,760 --> 00:42:31,080 Speaker 1: in context? Well we got into that point. Was she 862 00:42:31,160 --> 00:42:34,160 Speaker 1: push pushing her on the bed? Yeah, oh it was. 863 00:42:34,160 --> 00:42:36,680 Speaker 1: Was it about Angela? Yes, yes, yes, because angel had 864 00:42:36,680 --> 00:42:39,480 Speaker 1: walked by, and then like as soon as Angela walked by, 865 00:42:39,560 --> 00:42:41,439 Speaker 1: Nicole is like waving and I was just like, get 866 00:42:41,440 --> 00:42:42,840 Speaker 1: out of here, like we're doing with that, and so 867 00:42:42,880 --> 00:42:47,640 Speaker 1: I pushed her head. Oh I've missed that. Instagram you later. 868 00:42:47,800 --> 00:42:50,439 Speaker 1: You know It's good, though. Do you do you feel 869 00:42:50,480 --> 00:42:53,080 Speaker 1: like after your breakup with JPJ that you need a 870 00:42:53,080 --> 00:43:00,279 Speaker 1: break from this franchise? I honestly, right now, I like 871 00:43:00,280 --> 00:43:03,440 Speaker 1: I can actually breathe, which is weird. No, it's not 872 00:43:03,960 --> 00:43:05,560 Speaker 1: like you do you feel like you have some of 873 00:43:05,560 --> 00:43:08,360 Speaker 1: your not independence because obviously you guys weren't living in 874 00:43:08,400 --> 00:43:12,279 Speaker 1: the same area, but just that you now don't have 875 00:43:12,360 --> 00:43:16,600 Speaker 1: to worry about like explaining that relationship any longer to people. 876 00:43:16,680 --> 00:43:19,239 Speaker 1: I am so sublust of people saying what I'm doing 877 00:43:19,320 --> 00:43:22,359 Speaker 1: is fake, Like are you seeing me like cry at night? 878 00:43:22,400 --> 00:43:24,360 Speaker 1: Are you seeing me like laughing, like spend time with 879 00:43:24,360 --> 00:43:27,880 Speaker 1: my boyfriend? No, you're not. I'm also tired of people 880 00:43:27,920 --> 00:43:30,120 Speaker 1: constantly asking me where someone else is, and I'm just like, 881 00:43:30,160 --> 00:43:31,960 Speaker 1: I'm just with my girlfriends, Like, can I live for 882 00:43:32,000 --> 00:43:34,600 Speaker 1: a minute. Why do you think that people immediately their 883 00:43:34,640 --> 00:43:37,439 Speaker 1: first thing is, oh, she couldn't possibly like JPJ. She's 884 00:43:37,480 --> 00:43:41,239 Speaker 1: doing it for followers. I don't know because maybe like 885 00:43:41,320 --> 00:43:44,080 Speaker 1: on the show John, I'm so head over heels and like, 886 00:43:44,120 --> 00:43:46,120 Speaker 1: I didn't know I wanted him this second I saw him, 887 00:43:46,160 --> 00:43:48,560 Speaker 1: So I guess clearly I'm not in it. Do you 888 00:43:48,560 --> 00:43:50,520 Speaker 1: know what my fault was when people said that about you? 889 00:43:50,560 --> 00:43:52,359 Speaker 1: I was like, Okay, I'm just gonna call a spade 890 00:43:52,360 --> 00:43:55,680 Speaker 1: a spade. Titi's black, Like she knows that she's not 891 00:43:55,719 --> 00:43:58,880 Speaker 1: gonna get like top notch followers in this franchise, so 892 00:43:58,960 --> 00:44:02,040 Speaker 1: her dating jp J is not gonna give her, you know, 893 00:44:02,080 --> 00:44:05,279 Speaker 1: like millions of followers. So next try again. Plays That's 894 00:44:05,320 --> 00:44:07,640 Speaker 1: really what I thought. If I wanted followers, wouldn't I 895 00:44:07,640 --> 00:44:10,120 Speaker 1: be posting about him every second? That all right? That 896 00:44:10,120 --> 00:44:15,359 Speaker 1: that perpetuate, Yes, the likes and the follows. I get 897 00:44:15,400 --> 00:44:17,399 Speaker 1: it annoys me that people set that for you, Like 898 00:44:17,480 --> 00:44:20,680 Speaker 1: why can't she like JPJ? Why can't it be real? Right? 899 00:44:20,760 --> 00:44:22,560 Speaker 1: And I will I don't know you that well, Yeah, 900 00:44:22,560 --> 00:44:24,840 Speaker 1: I spent a little time together, especially on the podcast, 901 00:44:25,160 --> 00:44:29,279 Speaker 1: but you just seem real like you seem down to earth. 902 00:44:29,320 --> 00:44:32,319 Speaker 1: You don't seem like you're somebody to like chase the 903 00:44:32,400 --> 00:44:34,920 Speaker 1: fame like I've seen with other people coming from the show. 904 00:44:36,520 --> 00:44:39,400 Speaker 1: But so that's why I thought it was weird. I 905 00:44:39,400 --> 00:44:41,200 Speaker 1: will say, when I first heard that you two were together, 906 00:44:41,280 --> 00:44:43,600 Speaker 1: my just thought was that is the strangest couple just 907 00:44:43,680 --> 00:44:47,200 Speaker 1: be sure. Yeah, of course, only because you from what 908 00:44:47,239 --> 00:44:50,200 Speaker 1: I've seen, you're just so down to earth. You're eloquent 909 00:44:50,320 --> 00:44:53,719 Speaker 1: to your mature and JPJ have only met once at 910 00:44:53,719 --> 00:44:55,279 Speaker 1: the wedding, but he was just a character. He was 911 00:44:55,480 --> 00:44:57,320 Speaker 1: He was great to chat with, but he was a character. 912 00:44:57,360 --> 00:44:59,319 Speaker 1: So I was just I was just taking him back 913 00:44:59,360 --> 00:45:00,680 Speaker 1: when I heard that you guys were together. But I 914 00:45:00,719 --> 00:45:02,880 Speaker 1: would have never you know, I didn't think like she 915 00:45:03,160 --> 00:45:08,640 Speaker 1: she's not the type of girl to like for the fame. Yeah, 916 00:45:08,760 --> 00:45:12,200 Speaker 1: I've come on, I'm twenty nine years old, Okay, I'm 917 00:45:12,200 --> 00:45:14,399 Speaker 1: not trying to be something I'm not at this point, 918 00:45:14,400 --> 00:45:16,000 Speaker 1: and I'm not gonna put myself in a situation just 919 00:45:16,080 --> 00:45:18,319 Speaker 1: to do it. I just I just don't. You're twenty nine, 920 00:45:18,440 --> 00:45:21,719 Speaker 1: you've been married and divorced before, So for you, it's 921 00:45:21,719 --> 00:45:24,520 Speaker 1: like it's not a game, it's serious. And I think 922 00:45:24,520 --> 00:45:27,120 Speaker 1: that people really need to take that in perspective into 923 00:45:27,160 --> 00:45:29,719 Speaker 1: perspective and not just look at it as like, oh, 924 00:45:29,840 --> 00:45:32,880 Speaker 1: he seems to be goofy okay, but why can't he 925 00:45:33,000 --> 00:45:34,759 Speaker 1: be so much more than that? There's only one other 926 00:45:34,800 --> 00:45:38,359 Speaker 1: side you're saying of him, No, I know him better. Yeah, right, 927 00:45:38,400 --> 00:45:40,000 Speaker 1: and we'll take that back to like why I fell 928 00:45:40,080 --> 00:45:42,280 Speaker 1: for him in Paradise is because he can be silly 929 00:45:42,280 --> 00:45:44,439 Speaker 1: and goofy, and I have that side too. But also 930 00:45:44,480 --> 00:45:47,239 Speaker 1: at the same time, when the cameras weren't around, we 931 00:45:47,239 --> 00:45:50,680 Speaker 1: did have very intellectual conversations. We had spiritual conversations. We 932 00:45:50,800 --> 00:45:54,359 Speaker 1: just we had good conversations that like connected with him 933 00:45:54,360 --> 00:45:57,520 Speaker 1: on that's the boring stuff that they never Yeah, and 934 00:45:57,560 --> 00:46:00,000 Speaker 1: he gets so much good funny content that of course 935 00:46:00,080 --> 00:46:02,839 Speaker 1: sense with but there was more depths to him and 936 00:46:02,920 --> 00:46:04,359 Speaker 1: not a lot of people saw that, and so people 937 00:46:04,360 --> 00:46:06,480 Speaker 1: are just like, well, why is she with him? I 938 00:46:06,560 --> 00:46:09,640 Speaker 1: have two really random questions. Yeah. Number one, when you 939 00:46:09,719 --> 00:46:13,640 Speaker 1: drew him, do you still have that? You know what? 940 00:46:13,760 --> 00:46:19,480 Speaker 1: I think the Bachelor Office has also did you actually 941 00:46:19,560 --> 00:46:21,600 Speaker 1: draw him? Because I well, I also have a very 942 00:46:21,640 --> 00:46:23,919 Speaker 1: small TV. It's like the size of a microwave, so 943 00:46:24,160 --> 00:46:26,719 Speaker 1: I need a magnifying glass to ever see anything. But 944 00:46:26,760 --> 00:46:29,759 Speaker 1: did you actually draw him? Like, yeah, it's person. Yeah, 945 00:46:29,840 --> 00:46:33,919 Speaker 1: Well I mean I would yeah, but yeah I really 946 00:46:33,920 --> 00:46:37,080 Speaker 1: did try. Are you I'm not an artist? Actually my 947 00:46:37,120 --> 00:46:41,080 Speaker 1: sister is a phenomenal artist. But I mean I'll try. 948 00:46:41,200 --> 00:46:45,120 Speaker 1: You know, you're probably way better than me. Question two. Sorry, 949 00:46:45,160 --> 00:46:50,040 Speaker 1: I'm totally going off topic. I'm clearly not a great synation. 950 00:46:51,280 --> 00:46:54,279 Speaker 1: I want to know, Okay, watching your hometown with on 951 00:46:54,440 --> 00:46:59,120 Speaker 1: Colton season with your family, your dad, he's a hard ass, 952 00:46:59,160 --> 00:47:01,880 Speaker 1: like he's tough. You can clearly tell he cares about you, 953 00:47:02,840 --> 00:47:07,080 Speaker 1: which I appreciate. But how did he feel when you 954 00:47:07,120 --> 00:47:09,399 Speaker 1: came home? Well, not necessarily when you came home, because 955 00:47:09,400 --> 00:47:11,839 Speaker 1: you didn't go back to JPJ for a little bit. 956 00:47:11,880 --> 00:47:14,279 Speaker 1: But did he ever meet JPJ? And how did that go? 957 00:47:14,600 --> 00:47:16,880 Speaker 1: What did he think of him? Took good questions? He 958 00:47:17,040 --> 00:47:23,680 Speaker 1: met him vface time, and the first thing he asked 959 00:47:23,719 --> 00:47:25,080 Speaker 1: me was like, hey, I just want to make sure 960 00:47:25,120 --> 00:47:27,480 Speaker 1: your stomach's okay, because, like Jane, try to kill him 961 00:47:27,520 --> 00:47:28,880 Speaker 1: with the hot talk us. And he's like, were you 962 00:47:28,920 --> 00:47:31,600 Speaker 1: really vomitating like that, like are you Oh yeah, He's 963 00:47:31,600 --> 00:47:33,399 Speaker 1: like come up with some good food and that kind 964 00:47:33,440 --> 00:47:37,960 Speaker 1: of thing. But he Honestly, my dad, my parents in general, 965 00:47:38,000 --> 00:47:42,120 Speaker 1: they just they trust me. So if I'm going to 966 00:47:42,160 --> 00:47:44,440 Speaker 1: bring someone into my life, I know that they're going 967 00:47:44,520 --> 00:47:47,080 Speaker 1: to have my back and they just trust my judgment. Right. 968 00:47:47,239 --> 00:47:53,240 Speaker 1: So yeah, what's your relationship like right now with Jjohn? 969 00:47:53,600 --> 00:47:56,080 Speaker 1: Do you y'all still? I know it's fresh? Yeah, but 970 00:47:56,960 --> 00:47:59,080 Speaker 1: when you ended a relationship, how did you guys walk 971 00:47:59,080 --> 00:48:00,720 Speaker 1: away from each other? I mean, we saw your post, 972 00:48:01,200 --> 00:48:04,440 Speaker 1: but it was you know, it was an Instagram post 973 00:48:04,440 --> 00:48:07,160 Speaker 1: and it was politically correct if you want to, if 974 00:48:07,160 --> 00:48:09,720 Speaker 1: you if you if I could phrase it into anything, 975 00:48:10,080 --> 00:48:12,640 Speaker 1: but truly for some people, well you know you can't 976 00:48:12,640 --> 00:48:18,359 Speaker 1: please everybody, especially, but how truly, how are you too 977 00:48:18,640 --> 00:48:21,239 Speaker 1: right now? And did you talk about future? How you'd 978 00:48:21,239 --> 00:48:25,920 Speaker 1: be moving forward? Um? Honestly, John and I had a 979 00:48:25,960 --> 00:48:29,560 Speaker 1: really good UM conversation. Our last conversation was really good. 980 00:48:29,680 --> 00:48:31,640 Speaker 1: UM in Santa Monica when we met up with each other. 981 00:48:32,160 --> 00:48:34,480 Speaker 1: It was just we both feel like it's just not 982 00:48:34,520 --> 00:48:37,320 Speaker 1: the right time for us and we don't want to 983 00:48:38,840 --> 00:48:41,120 Speaker 1: um completely cut each other out of each other's lives 984 00:48:41,160 --> 00:48:44,360 Speaker 1: right now. Right now, we can't really keep talking because 985 00:48:44,400 --> 00:48:45,920 Speaker 1: we need to kind of move on and heal. But 986 00:48:46,040 --> 00:48:49,600 Speaker 1: we will be friends. Um whatever the future holds, the 987 00:48:49,600 --> 00:48:53,920 Speaker 1: future holds, But um, I don't know. I just still 988 00:48:53,960 --> 00:48:59,440 Speaker 1: think he needs to kind of realize I was a 989 00:48:59,480 --> 00:49:01,520 Speaker 1: real I was real, and I was just trying to 990 00:49:01,560 --> 00:49:03,960 Speaker 1: be like upround and honest, and I was just trying 991 00:49:04,000 --> 00:49:06,960 Speaker 1: to honestly create a foundation for a real relationship. I 992 00:49:07,000 --> 00:49:09,080 Speaker 1: wasn't trying to play games. I'm not a twenty four 993 00:49:09,120 --> 00:49:11,800 Speaker 1: year old that's trying to like, I don't know, mess around. 994 00:49:11,960 --> 00:49:15,480 Speaker 1: So what's next for you? Like, can I just say selfishly? 995 00:49:15,480 --> 00:49:17,960 Speaker 1: In my mind, I'm like, Okay, no offense to JPJ. 996 00:49:18,080 --> 00:49:19,879 Speaker 1: But I'm like, okay, she's single. Like I'd really think 997 00:49:19,880 --> 00:49:22,239 Speaker 1: I'm a really good matchmaker. I have matched people up 998 00:49:22,280 --> 00:49:24,600 Speaker 1: who have been married. So I'm like, okay, going down 999 00:49:24,640 --> 00:49:27,040 Speaker 1: the list in my head, take your time. I'll have 1000 00:49:27,080 --> 00:49:29,640 Speaker 1: a list for you when you're ready. Ok, why don't 1001 00:49:29,640 --> 00:49:34,239 Speaker 1: we just nominate her for The Bachelor Live on Stage tour. Oh, 1002 00:49:34,320 --> 00:49:36,719 Speaker 1: I'm a bachelorette, let's take it. Let's take her, Oh 1003 00:49:36,840 --> 00:49:40,520 Speaker 1: or Bachelor. Yeah, you know you think you long term. 1004 00:49:40,560 --> 00:49:42,680 Speaker 1: I'm thinking I just want to hang out with you. Know, 1005 00:49:42,960 --> 00:49:44,800 Speaker 1: we know you've got a new show coming up that 1006 00:49:44,960 --> 00:49:47,399 Speaker 1: you write thirteenth y'all make sure you get your tickets now. 1007 00:49:48,120 --> 00:49:50,440 Speaker 1: You can get them at Bachelorlive onstage dot com. There 1008 00:49:50,480 --> 00:49:52,400 Speaker 1: you go back up. But I will say, Tai, if 1009 00:49:52,440 --> 00:49:54,880 Speaker 1: you were the Bachelorrette. Okay, I was telling Rachel this 1010 00:49:54,960 --> 00:49:57,400 Speaker 1: a couple of days ago. I feel like no offense 1011 00:49:57,440 --> 00:49:59,719 Speaker 1: to the show because it has done so much in 1012 00:50:00,320 --> 00:50:03,600 Speaker 1: so much obviously brought me my fiance, but so much 1013 00:50:03,640 --> 00:50:07,919 Speaker 1: for me. But I it's it's lost a little bit 1014 00:50:07,960 --> 00:50:10,239 Speaker 1: of its luster because I feel like now I'm a 1015 00:50:10,280 --> 00:50:14,799 Speaker 1: grandma watching and I just feel old and sort of disconnected. 1016 00:50:14,840 --> 00:50:17,000 Speaker 1: So we're the same age. And I'm not calling you 1017 00:50:17,040 --> 00:50:18,960 Speaker 1: a grandma by any means, but I would love to 1018 00:50:20,600 --> 00:50:23,600 Speaker 1: watch some Not to say people aren't there for the 1019 00:50:23,719 --> 00:50:26,800 Speaker 1: right reasons, but you seem like you really want to 1020 00:50:26,840 --> 00:50:28,600 Speaker 1: find your person, and I would love to watch that, 1021 00:50:28,800 --> 00:50:32,960 Speaker 1: and I would root for you. I'd call in, I'd 1022 00:50:33,000 --> 00:50:35,520 Speaker 1: give you my vote. Let me tell you something, You're 1023 00:50:35,560 --> 00:50:36,880 Speaker 1: not going to come back and co host if you 1024 00:50:36,920 --> 00:50:38,879 Speaker 1: call yourself a grandma one more time, because if you're 1025 00:50:38,880 --> 00:50:42,640 Speaker 1: a grandma. I'm already in the grave at the top 1026 00:50:42,680 --> 00:50:45,760 Speaker 1: of the coffin. Okay, like, no, it wasn't wasn't intent 1027 00:50:45,800 --> 00:50:49,120 Speaker 1: on Colton season that. I think she was my age 1028 00:50:49,120 --> 00:50:52,000 Speaker 1: that got called the grandma. Yeah, the girl host crying 1029 00:50:52,040 --> 00:50:56,160 Speaker 1: in the closet, Elie, oh Tracy her. Yeah, I related 1030 00:50:56,239 --> 00:50:59,400 Speaker 1: hard to her, did you No? No, no, I loved it. 1031 00:50:59,440 --> 00:51:00,920 Speaker 1: I wore it. I was like, I'm the mom of 1032 00:51:00,960 --> 00:51:05,920 Speaker 1: the house. Um, so what's next for you, Tasha? Um? Honestly, 1033 00:51:06,040 --> 00:51:09,960 Speaker 1: right now, I'm just I'm working that. I also, I'm traveling, 1034 00:51:10,000 --> 00:51:12,000 Speaker 1: I'm living with my I'm doing stuff with my family. 1035 00:51:12,080 --> 00:51:14,400 Speaker 1: I don't know. I'm just living life good as you should, 1036 00:51:14,440 --> 00:51:17,920 Speaker 1: surrounding yourself with love, light, people who feel the same 1037 00:51:17,960 --> 00:51:21,000 Speaker 1: way about you, who know you, who get you. One 1038 00:51:21,000 --> 00:51:23,440 Speaker 1: more question before we go. I'm a big New Year's 1039 00:51:23,440 --> 00:51:27,839 Speaker 1: Eve person. Yeah, it's my favorite. I love Halloween too. Well, 1040 00:51:28,040 --> 00:51:30,080 Speaker 1: let me back it up, my birthday it's my favorite holiday. 1041 00:51:30,600 --> 00:51:32,759 Speaker 1: Then I love Halloween, but New Year's Eve is my 1042 00:51:32,960 --> 00:51:36,239 Speaker 1: favorite favorite holiday. There is just something about I am 1043 00:51:36,320 --> 00:51:39,359 Speaker 1: one of those people who really buys into the it's 1044 00:51:39,400 --> 00:51:44,200 Speaker 1: a fresh star. Things are starting new my planner, Yeah, 1045 00:51:44,200 --> 00:51:46,440 Speaker 1: like I need to be surrounded with the right people 1046 00:51:46,520 --> 00:51:49,640 Speaker 1: and bring this in the right way. So twenty twenties 1047 00:51:49,680 --> 00:51:51,920 Speaker 1: coming up, do you have any personal goals that you're 1048 00:51:51,960 --> 00:51:54,040 Speaker 1: setting for yourself going into the new year. Oh, that's 1049 00:51:54,040 --> 00:51:57,319 Speaker 1: a good question, to be quite honest with you. I 1050 00:51:57,400 --> 00:51:59,880 Speaker 1: have nothing planned, not even for the next week. Maybe' 1051 00:52:00,200 --> 00:52:02,640 Speaker 1: well maybe March could be your busy time because it's 1052 00:52:02,640 --> 00:52:11,240 Speaker 1: when about short starts. Oh my gosh, I'm all for it, Tasia, 1053 00:52:11,400 --> 00:52:14,440 Speaker 1: But no, seriously, maybe maybe the plan is having no plan, right, 1054 00:52:14,560 --> 00:52:17,400 Speaker 1: like I taking everything day by day, step by step 1055 00:52:17,560 --> 00:52:20,120 Speaker 1: and just seeing what happens and what comes into your life. 1056 00:52:20,160 --> 00:52:22,680 Speaker 1: To be honest, it's like the first time in a 1057 00:52:22,760 --> 00:52:24,600 Speaker 1: long time, I can't even tell you how long in 1058 00:52:24,640 --> 00:52:26,960 Speaker 1: my twenties that I like have like no agenda and 1059 00:52:27,040 --> 00:52:29,160 Speaker 1: I just focus on you. And I think that's when 1060 00:52:29,320 --> 00:52:32,480 Speaker 1: the best things come, is when you are settled and 1061 00:52:32,560 --> 00:52:35,399 Speaker 1: good with yourself and not like dead set on any 1062 00:52:35,440 --> 00:52:39,840 Speaker 1: certain thing, because that's that's over possible, I mean possible, 1063 00:52:39,880 --> 00:52:41,799 Speaker 1: But do you and I think good things will come. 1064 00:52:41,880 --> 00:52:44,160 Speaker 1: I just want to be ready. You know you are ready. 1065 00:52:44,280 --> 00:52:46,239 Speaker 1: You just put it. I'm put it out there, say 1066 00:52:46,320 --> 00:52:51,640 Speaker 1: I'm say say it with us you're ready, he's ready. Okay, 1067 00:52:52,000 --> 00:52:53,600 Speaker 1: you guys can't see this when we're giving each other 1068 00:52:53,719 --> 00:52:56,400 Speaker 1: high pod but not actually connecting, because we are filming 1069 00:52:56,400 --> 00:52:59,680 Speaker 1: a podcast and the sound would not be great. But listen, Taitia, 1070 00:52:59,800 --> 00:53:03,160 Speaker 1: come from two former bachelrettes. You've already heard Becca say it, 1071 00:53:03,200 --> 00:53:04,960 Speaker 1: and I seconded it if we were if this was 1072 00:53:05,000 --> 00:53:07,040 Speaker 1: a real meeting and I could sec at the motion. 1073 00:53:07,400 --> 00:53:10,279 Speaker 1: We both think that you'd be fantastic bachelorettes. So we're 1074 00:53:10,280 --> 00:53:13,080 Speaker 1: putting it out there for you. Um, would you say 1075 00:53:13,160 --> 00:53:18,200 Speaker 1: yes if they ask you? Yeah? Took too long? Respond Yeah. 1076 00:53:19,360 --> 00:53:21,239 Speaker 1: Make sure y'all cut out that pause. Okay, let's just 1077 00:53:21,280 --> 00:53:25,520 Speaker 1: cut out that those two seconds east, but well worth 1078 00:53:25,600 --> 00:53:28,879 Speaker 1: it's worth it, and just think of it as you're 1079 00:53:29,040 --> 00:53:31,600 Speaker 1: in control. I remember I tweeted that for you backa. 1080 00:53:31,640 --> 00:53:33,600 Speaker 1: I was like, Becca, you were in control. I think 1081 00:53:33,600 --> 00:53:43,400 Speaker 1: I used some corny, like some corny oh yeah, the 1082 00:53:43,760 --> 00:53:45,799 Speaker 1: mansion doing all that. Yes, I was like, why do 1083 00:53:45,840 --> 00:53:47,759 Speaker 1: I have over here in dubie and Rachel's like over 1084 00:53:47,840 --> 00:53:51,239 Speaker 1: in my private parts, like let's get this right. Hey, 1085 00:53:51,280 --> 00:53:54,120 Speaker 1: it works, She's right, it did work. Well. We are teams, hey, 1086 00:53:54,120 --> 00:53:56,279 Speaker 1: show we are team you. We are supporting you. We're 1087 00:53:56,280 --> 00:53:59,719 Speaker 1: putting all positive energy your way. I know think great 1088 00:53:59,719 --> 00:54:02,719 Speaker 1: things going to happen for you. Absolutely, so thank you 1089 00:54:02,760 --> 00:54:04,040 Speaker 1: so much for being here and a part of the 1090 00:54:04,080 --> 00:54:07,080 Speaker 1: Bachelor Happy Hour podcast next week. You guys, we have 1091 00:54:07,160 --> 00:54:09,920 Speaker 1: the man, the myth, the legend, Nil Lane. I think 1092 00:54:09,920 --> 00:54:11,560 Speaker 1: about him every day because I think about him when 1093 00:54:11,560 --> 00:54:14,240 Speaker 1: I look at my finger. It's giving me three rings 1094 00:54:14,280 --> 00:54:16,200 Speaker 1: on my finger. 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