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Speaker 2: Another chapter in the continuing war on the single family

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Speaker 2: home in the state of California. We've talked recently about

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Speaker 2: Huntington Beach. They're fighting a massive development that the state

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Speaker 2: is mandating Carnado, the on and off of San Diego.

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Speaker 2: The mayor there was our guest last week. This story

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Speaker 2: is a little different, but we think it's important to

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Speaker 2: bring it to you because it's another way that they

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Speaker 2: can slip these things in. We're going to be talking

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Speaker 2: out to the mayor of Laverne, Tim Hepburn. His community,

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Speaker 2: along with neighboring San Dimas, are involved in a situation

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Speaker 2: where it looks like a sizeable affording housing project is

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Speaker 2: going up, although it's in an unincorporated area of Los

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Speaker 2: Angeles County, so it's nice directly east La County down

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Speaker 2: the two ten, down the two ten, right east of Pasadena,

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Speaker 2: east of Glendora, east of everything.

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Speaker 1: Let's get let's get them on here. Tim hep Don

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Speaker 1: you there, I'm here.

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Speaker 3: How are you guys doing.

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Speaker 1: We're fine? Are you fine?

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Speaker 2: We're fine. You brought this to our attention. So tell

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Speaker 2: our listeners what this is all about with this project.

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Speaker 3: Well, this project was basically it was on Tuesday, April eleventh,

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Speaker 3: where the Supervisor Barger's office called us and said, hey,

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Speaker 3: just a fyi. This this plan for this fifty four

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Speaker 3: which is five stories, was going to be placed in

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Speaker 3: an incorporate area of San Dimas, which is literally sandwiches

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Speaker 3: across the street from a huge community called Fox Glen

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Speaker 3: Residential Community. And there's nothing over two stories in any

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Speaker 3: so we said, okay, well let's get some meetings together,

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Speaker 3: and the city worked with Barger's office to set up

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Speaker 3: three dates for video calls. We'll come to find out

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Speaker 3: that that Thursday, it was already on the agenda, which

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Speaker 3: we didn't know for the supervisors meeting. But we didn't

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Speaker 3: know that it was even on for a seven million

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Speaker 3: was Tuesday morning on four eighteen. And so I got

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Speaker 3: word of it from social media, and I got on

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Speaker 3: Chief Supervisor Barber's Officely, guy, come on, you can't do

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Speaker 3: this to our communities. This is wrong. I mean, you

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Speaker 3: need Lisa a seat at the table, you know, and

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Speaker 3: there's reasons for this, but the point is is that

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Speaker 3: no notification, no nothing, and we didn't know, and she

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Speaker 3: until May sixteenth, So we've got a little bit of time.

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Speaker 2: But so you had no idea the do you'd have

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Speaker 2: no idea they were scouting this location.

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Speaker 3: Huh, none whatsoever.

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Speaker 1: I'm just trying to understand the geography. If you drive

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Speaker 1: keep going, you're in San Demus. So there's a little

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Speaker 3: And what it is it's the where you come down

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Speaker 3: you're basically going actually towards Glendora. There's a little sandwich

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Speaker 1: So you know, what I'm asking is you don't have

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Speaker 1: asking Catherine Barger and saying, way, hold on, this is

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Speaker 3: Do, no exactly, and that has to do with because

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Speaker 3: of state and local requirements and also state density bonus

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Speaker 3: And basically it's because the project to one hundred percent

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Speaker 3: affordable permanent supportive housing. The projects subject to it's it's

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Speaker 3: Lookim from the California Environmental Sequel.

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Speaker 1: Let me ask you this so people understand permanent supportive

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Speaker 3: People the way it's proposed is it's going to be

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Speaker 1: Yes, yes, oh it is.

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Speaker 2: Okay, yes, I mean the affordable and it just sounds

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Speaker 1: When you hear the words supportive, that's the key. We're

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Speaker 2: Need support either for problems with alcohol or drugs or something.

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Speaker 1: Because at home you may be wondering, my, well, what

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Speaker 1: does it matter if they put up one apartment building?

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Speaker 1: All right, what's the big deal? Well, the reason there's

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Speaker 3: Well, and that's an issue because and I mean it's

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Speaker 3: not that it's not little Verne has any issue with that,

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Speaker 3: or send demas. The point is is that we're all

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Speaker 3: about affordable housing. The problem is is that there's fifty

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Speaker 3: the one two bedroom is for the manager of the unit.

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Speaker 3: And not only that, the accounting zoning is the development

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Speaker 3: standards in exchange for provision of affordable and support of housing.

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Speaker 3: Developers entitled to a density bonus as well as incentives

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Speaker 3: parking is required for one hundred percent permanent support of housing.

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Speaker 1: Okay, but what's the condition of the type of people

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Speaker 3: We have no idea with national core, which is the

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Speaker 1: There because of all, the vast majority of rehab fails for people.

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Speaker 1: Right if it works at all, people have to go repeatedly.

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Speaker 1: Now you could end up with fifty three units of

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Speaker 3: We have no idea and we have no control, even

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Speaker 3: with Barger's office now to meet with National Corps which

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Speaker 3: nothing too previous as far as what was going to

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Speaker 3: the supervisors, well, because they.

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Speaker 2: Knew you wouldn't like it, or a local responsibility.

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Speaker 3: I mean you guys. The last time we talked was

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Speaker 3: the youth facilities turned into uh, yes, our facilities, yeah,

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Speaker 3: have a right. It's still the project's still being reviewed

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Speaker 3: by the Planning Commission, uh and it has not received

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Speaker 1: But well, of course they're not going to tell you

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Speaker 1: because you raised a ruckus last year and got that

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Speaker 1: be happy with this, and you're going to start to

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Speaker 1: mobilize opposition, which you should do.

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Speaker 3: Well, we're we're we're working diligently, right now because we've

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Speaker 3: like it's just, you know, our rights are being taken

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Speaker 3: away from our cities as far as what we can

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Speaker 3: We don't know who's going to go there, but we're

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Speaker 3: in great discussions. The supervisor Barger has been really great

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Speaker 3: Her staff was not aware, and it was like, what's

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Speaker 3: at all the time. But again, you just got to

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Speaker 2: How did you How did you find out?

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Speaker 3: It was funny because I was on social media and

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Speaker 3: I was watching and I was doing some bids. I'm

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Speaker 3: up and I'm going, who's this, what's this? And it said, Hey,

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Speaker 3: did you know there's a fifty fifty four unit housing

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Speaker 3: development of a person that lives in Fox Glenn. I,

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Speaker 3: so I get on there. I talked to my city

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Speaker 3: let's get on the county meeting tomorrow. He says, it's

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Speaker 3: right now. I got on the phone, talked to like

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Speaker 3: I said, and talked to the deputy chief and said, guys,

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Speaker 3: you can't do this. We got to have some our

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Speaker 3: cities need to know about this. We need to have

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Speaker 3: and it's going out to semim over Chris Holden and

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Speaker 1: Well, good luck and tell us what happens along the

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Speaker 1: way here. All right, we'll keep on, Ty Wills.

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Speaker 3: I appreciate you guys, thanks for all your help. We

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Speaker 3: appreciate our little communities need to unite and make sure

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Speaker 3: this doesn't happen in our community.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I know, a lot's happening all over the place.

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Speaker 2: Tim Hepburn and mayor of Laverne coming on the show

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Speaker 2: to talk about Yeah, that's the keyword. Supportive housing. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: which means they're putting up a homeless housing building in

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Speaker 2: an unincorporated area of La County, kind of right between

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Speaker 2: San Dimas and Laverne. And they didn't get any heads

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Speaker 2: up on it, so we'll keep an eye on that one.

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Speaker 2: All right, More coming up. Thank you, Bye bye, Johnny

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Speaker 2: Ken KFI AM six forty live everywhere the iHeartRadio app euphemisms.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: In one hour, we'll have a final keyword for your

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Speaker 2: chance to win a thousand dollars. We'll be talking fentanyl

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Speaker 2: next hour. A couple of developments, one which may mean

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Speaker 2: it's coming to a ballot near you. Public Safety Committee

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Speaker 2: in Sacramento does not have any interest in bills, some

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Speaker 2: of them actually delivered by Democratic representatives, in doing anything

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Speaker 2: when it comes to the fentanyl crisis, except as Newsom said,

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Speaker 2: we'll have extra Narcan standing by. They'll just order billions

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Speaker 2: of dollars where the Narkhan and every citizen. John. Maybe

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Speaker 2: they'll compel you to carry it so you can you

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Speaker 2: can say if you don't, they'll charge you.

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Speaker 1: That's their joke. I could see them requiring everybody to

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Speaker 1: do it and the interest of public safety. You know

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Speaker 1: what the thing is about newsom he says something preposterous

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Speaker 1: with great authority and have to stay.

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Speaker 2: There is in northern Marin County. Marin County is well,

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Speaker 1: Listen to this. In the San Francisco Chronicle, it says

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Speaker 2: How hell are you talking about? How did this happen?

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Speaker 2: And when did this happen? When people who it's just

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Speaker 1: GrITT County is one of the most expensive counties in

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Speaker 2: They're getting free groceries, housing, case management, medical assistance and more.

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Speaker 2: These parked are v's Apparently the local counties send in

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Speaker 1: They gave a half a million dollars to the City

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Speaker 2: Actually, the state rising numbers of low income residents say

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Speaker 1: You don't qualify to live in Marine County, you don't

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Speaker 2: This is the ultimately incredible act of irresponsibility. I just

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Speaker 1: But you see, those wealthy, woke morons.

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Speaker 2: Allow the very bad.

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Speaker 1: They allow their tax money to be used for this.

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Speaker 2: Well, it looks like there's not much there. There's another

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Speaker 2: reason why this probably isn't driving people crazy. It's a

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Speaker 1: I have no id, but it's just going to get bigger.

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Speaker 1: It's created, it's.

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Speaker 2: All apparently trash is built up well, and they're worried

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Speaker 1: We heard that before. It's all the human feces, it's

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Speaker 1: it's it's the disease.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, suddenly, but they came there. The housing is way

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Speaker 2: too expensive a Marine County. Where are they going to

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Speaker 2: take them to find them permanent housing? They're never going

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Speaker 1: These people are spend their tax money on this nonsense,

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Speaker 1: and then they feel good about it, all odd compassionate. Look,

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Speaker 1: we've given several million dollars to these poor people, who,

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Speaker 1: of course injected much of the money into their bloodstreams

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Speaker 2: The story says seventy eight percent of people who are

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Speaker 1: Do you really believe that, No, that's a lie. I

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Speaker 1: don't believe any of that. I don't believe anything that

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Speaker 1: all the money that these nonprofits are getting here, these

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Speaker 1: they go to enrich these nonprofits? The people who run

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Speaker 1: the nonprofits are making salaries in excess of one hundred

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Speaker 1: you know, they all used to live in Marin County. No,

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Speaker 1: I mean, I'll look up later Marine counties like like

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Speaker 1: in the country. These people, bo aren't tech overlords who

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Speaker 2: All Right, we got more coming up. John and Ken

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Speaker 2: kf I AM six forty were live everywhere the iHeartRadio app.

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Speaker 4: You're listening to John and Ken on demand from KFI

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Speaker 4: AM six forty.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, coming up after three o'clock. Well, sometimes in California.

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Speaker 2: If the legislature won't do it, you have to take

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Speaker 2: it to the people with a ballot measure. Is that

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Speaker 2: gonna happen with fentanyl? Because that's how bad it is.

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Speaker 2: Governor Dipity Do showed up in San Francisco the other

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Speaker 2: and over the weekend we've learned he's announced some actions.

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Speaker 2: We'll examine those actions. That's involved in the National guard

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Speaker 1: Huh, it does the National Guard. He always does this.

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Speaker 1: He's so predictable. I'm gonna get the National Guardian to

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Speaker 2: They were like, well, you got to do something because

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Speaker 2: he went there. You have to leave there. You have

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Speaker 1: If they're going to pick them up and force them

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Speaker 2: Time, right all right, So we'll start the hour next

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Speaker 2: the problems of fentanyl because the legislature has no interest except,

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Speaker 2: as I said, spending more money on narcan. That's it. Hey,

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Speaker 2: When you willfully and what's all Newsom said when he

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Speaker 1: When you willfully elect people who don't care if your

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Speaker 2: One of the biggest attractions, of course in southern California

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Speaker 2: is Disneyland. It became quite a story. On Saturday night,

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Speaker 2: they have a show there called Fantasmic. There is a

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Speaker 1: Are they going to make this part of the show

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Speaker 2: My first reaction because I'd never seen this. A lot

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Speaker 2: way to kill the dragon? I mean dragons breathe fire, right,

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Speaker 2: but the fire would be quite a big, billowing black

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Speaker 1: Chow cheap Polterously.

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Speaker 2: Hasn't happened yet. I hate this kind of music.

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Speaker 1: That how was it guarding?

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Speaker 1: No screams? Oh, people think it's the shows.

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Speaker 2: I thought this was fame.

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Speaker 1: I thought this was fake, not supposed to happen, No one,

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Speaker 2: You didn't happen?

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Speaker 5: My god, I should have.

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Speaker 1: I should have posted this on my Instagram.

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Speaker 6: No fantasmic continue, please get away.

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Speaker 1: I should on my Instagram.

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Speaker 6: It was wanted like, yeah, right, that.

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Speaker 2: Was saying I should post this on my Instagram.

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Speaker 1: We gotta go back.

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Speaker 2: Now. It was getting a little bit scary there at

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Speaker 1: Wasn't exactly they weren't exactly horrified. So I post.

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Speaker 5: I think what happened was there was gas leaking from

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Speaker 1: Oh so we had leaking gas, an explosion, fire, thick

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Speaker 2: I want to get this on my Instagram.

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Speaker 2: So it's like, oh, the gas is clearly dripping.

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Speaker 2: They are temporarily suspending all fire effects, similar to those

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Speaker 2: use of discline parks Fantastic at select shows. There's no

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Speaker 2: Fantastic for at least the next twelve days.

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Speaker 2: were saying, that's not what happens. I was here for

436
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Speaker 2: one before. It's right.

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Speaker 1: I come here every day because I have no because.

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Speaker 2: I don't think they're gonna They're gonna burn down an

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Speaker 2: animatronic dragon every show.

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Speaker 1: I'm emotionally stunted. I stopped maturing when I was eight.

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Speaker 1: I'm forty two now, and I come here every day.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, there's a lot of people like that, man child

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Speaker 2: and women child.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, they they frighten me. They really do.

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Speaker 2: Oh do they?

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Speaker 1: Oh? Yeah yeah. I've read stories, especially ned grown men

447
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Speaker 1: who go every day.

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Speaker 2: I went every day for I was like five years

449
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Speaker 2: or something. I just read a story a few weeks ago.

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Speaker 2: You don't think a guy that goes every day, and

451
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Speaker 2: even if it's only for twenty minutes, he goes every day, you.

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Speaker 1: Don't think they should be incarcerated. I think they should

453
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Speaker 1: be incarcerated. Yes, that's a bad sign.

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Speaker 2: What us something wrong? They're gonna kill people.

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Speaker 1: I don't know. There's something wrong when you're going to

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Speaker 1: a kid's fantasy land every day.

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Speaker 5: That great history teacher was like that, you're well dress up,

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Speaker 5: my eighth grade hit street teacher.

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Speaker 2: No, I don't think he dressed up.

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Speaker 5: But I did see him one time when I was

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Speaker 5: at Disneyland with my family and he was alone. And

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Speaker 5: he was alone, Yes, right exact I was, and I

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Speaker 5: was in high school at the time.

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Speaker 1: I didn't go to him and say anything to him, but.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I did see him alone at Disney and She's like,

466
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Speaker 5: I don't know if you should be doing that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, he was a creeper, That's what he was.

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Speaker 1: He wants to relive his magic child. Nobody does. Nobody does.

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Speaker 1: Oh my god, I couldn't. I can't take couldn't take

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Speaker 1: Disneyland for five minutes. I content whatever it came up

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Speaker 1: in the house. I always just distracted everybody. It's like, oh, well,

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Speaker 1: I got another place we can go, all right?

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Speaker 2: Moore coming up, Johnny get j if I am six

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Speaker 2: forty live everywhere the iHeartRadio app.

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Speaker 1: Never Mark Live in the twenty four hour Caffe News, John.

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Speaker 2: You didn't want to dress up as goofy or.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, do I look like a guy who wanted to

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Speaker 1: dress up. Ever, even when I was eight, I didn't

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Speaker 1: want to dress up.

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Speaker 4: You're listening to John and Ken on demand from kf

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Speaker 4: I am six forty.

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Speaker 2: All right, Well, was it going to take a ballot

483
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Speaker 2: measure to do something about the no problem? And not

484
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Speaker 2: just in California, but obviously in the country. But we

485
00:25:03,400 --> 00:25:06,120
Speaker 2: can focus on the state where supposedly five hundred people

486
00:25:06,160 --> 00:25:09,240
Speaker 2: die a month from fentanyl. We'll talk about it after

487
00:25:09,280 --> 00:25:13,840
Speaker 2: the news at three o'clock. Well, it's that time of

488
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Speaker 2: the John and Ken Show. Dead Animals. A couple weeks

489
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Speaker 2: ago we told you in Texas, eighteen thousand dairy cows

490
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Speaker 2: died in a massive fire at a dairy farm. That

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Speaker 2: devastated Deborah Mark, Yes, devastated me. We go to Texas again,

492
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Speaker 2: this time only six cows found dead. But it's gotten

493
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Speaker 2: a lot of intrigue and interest because whoever did it

494
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Speaker 2: cut their tongues out?

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Speaker 1: Oh what?

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Speaker 2: The cow's tongue was removed with no blood spill, A straight,

497
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Speaker 2: clean cut with apparent precision.

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Speaker 1: Sounds satanic.

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Speaker 2: Also in the case of one other cow, oh two,

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Speaker 2: they removed the anus and the external genitalia.

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Speaker 1: How do you remove in anus and anis as a whole.

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Speaker 2: Well, it's heart though it's it does attach inside to

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Speaker 2: the whole digestive ic.

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Speaker 1: So they went in and pulled out the Yeah.

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Speaker 2: The circular cut was made with the same precision as

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Speaker 2: the cuts noted above the and around the jawlines of

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Speaker 2: each cow. That's how they removed a tongue. There were

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Speaker 2: no signs of struggle or blood spill, no footprints or

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Speaker 2: tracks the blood. No blood spill.

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Speaker 1: Eric, you would know this. In Jewish gellies, they sell tongue, right, tongue?

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Speaker 1: Is that cow tongue? Yeah? I don't know if it

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Speaker 1: was from it was por No, it can't be porn.

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Speaker 1: It's who in the right mind eats that?

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Speaker 2: Well, the cows are probably on someone they took My

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Speaker 2: mother served cow tongue.

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Speaker 1: God, oh yeah, that is a That is a much.

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Speaker 2: You put in a big boiling pot on the stove,

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Speaker 2: that kind of sit there.

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Speaker 1: Let's go over to cows. Mom is making boiled boil.

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Speaker 2: She did. She made tongue every now and then. Wow,

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Speaker 2: we're not Jewish, but she did it.

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Speaker 1: I nothing better than boiled tongue.

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Speaker 2: Was really salty tasting as you could imagine, but very

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Speaker 2: to it's cut. It very soft to cut, like a tongue.

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Speaker 1: You get a big thick cow tonge. Wow, were you

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Speaker 1: so secure back then?

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Speaker 2: What's that?

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Speaker 1: Were you? It was your family food? Insecure?

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Speaker 2: You know they could have been I never asked that question.

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Speaker 1: I mean, what would motivate anybody to cook a cow

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Speaker 1: boil a cow tongue?

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Speaker 2: Some people find it. I mean, if you go to

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Speaker 2: a Mexican restaurants, John, it's on the menu. You can

534
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Speaker 2: get a tongue tongue taco.

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Speaker 1: I thought it was a Jewish jelly thing. A tongue taco.

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Speaker 1: Baicle trucks have tongue tacos.

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Speaker 2: They put tongue meat in there. If you wanted sure,

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Speaker 2: tongue meat.

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Speaker 1: Oh that makes it sound worse, but I did tongue me.

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Speaker 2: You know you'd rather serve up the a.

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Speaker 1: I don't know what that's about. Is that the taco too? Horrible?

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Speaker 5: Story?

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Speaker 1: Ken?

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Speaker 2: So six cows and the sheriff down there is asking

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Speaker 2: anybody with any information. They can't figure this out. Could

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Speaker 2: it be space aliens? This is my question? Well, or

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Speaker 2: as John said, secure people that wanted to eat cow talks.

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Speaker 6: Okay, Well let's rip their tongues out when we find them,

549
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Speaker 6: and they're aus.

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Speaker 2: How do you remove the tongue from the cowbody with

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Speaker 2: no blood spill?

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Speaker 1: That's in the story here. I can't figure that out.

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Speaker 1: You worked up John over that one. Did you play

554
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Speaker 1: that that phrase and theirs? Yeah, just saved that one.

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Speaker 2: The ranchers also reported to officials that the cow was

556
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Speaker 2: left to decay for several weeks. There was no interest

557
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Speaker 2: from predators or birds to scavens. The remain that something

558
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Speaker 2: has been set off when they came around.

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Speaker 1: It just seems like a like a ritual of some kind.

560
00:29:08,600 --> 00:29:09,760
Speaker 1: That's what I thought first.

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00:29:09,800 --> 00:29:12,520
Speaker 2: You're right, some sort of a cult ritual or.

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Speaker 1: A prank maybe by some disturbed Oh it's really awful.

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Speaker 2: Not that I would forgive a cult, but like a prank. Oh,

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Speaker 2: that's terrible. I mean cowtipping. That's as serious as you

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Speaker 2: should get, right, just you know, and that's very mean too.

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Speaker 1: That is mean. But you you know the cow can

567
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Speaker 1: recover from that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'd rather you do that than take the tongue out. Well,

569
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Speaker 2: you're an upstate New York. That was a discussion. If

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Speaker 2: you want to go cow tipping, you ever do that?

571
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Speaker 2: I did not know, No, I just heard about it.

572
00:29:41,600 --> 00:29:43,880
Speaker 2: From people in the farm community there in Pennsylvania and

573
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Speaker 2: when they cow. That's the first time I heard about it.

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Speaker 2: What do they mean whether they sleep standing up and

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Speaker 2: they get pretty rigid, you can just tip them over?

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Speaker 1: Can they get back up? Or is at it for

577
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Speaker 1: the night?

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Speaker 2: I don't know. I've never done it. I have no idea.

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Speaker 2: I would imagine that they it wakes them up and

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Speaker 2: they probably come around and.

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Speaker 6: Let's rip their tongues out when we find them and

582
00:30:04,680 --> 00:30:05,360
Speaker 6: they're anus.

583
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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's why I do these stories. It's another side

584
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Speaker 2: of debor. Mark you need to hear about.

585
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Speaker 1: There is a violent streak in you. Well there you

586
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Speaker 1: harm animals?

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Speaker 2: Yes, God, clearly where this happened, there's like no surveillance video.

588
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Speaker 2: This is just out in the field, and so it's

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Speaker 2: going to be difficult for them to suchly.

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Speaker 1: It's Middle Eastern justice.

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Speaker 2: This was on different properties along the Texas Highway spanning

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Speaker 2: three counties. The six mutilated cow. So somebody went along

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Speaker 2: and took a.

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Speaker 1: Cow and cut out a really disturbing story.

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Speaker 2: All right, when we come back, well, this should disturb

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Speaker 2: you just as much. We're going to talk to Jennie.

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Speaker 2: Jennie Celesti's president and CEO of fentanylsolution dot org. They

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Speaker 2: popped up in a recent story in the California Globe

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Speaker 2: about the fentanyl crisis in California and the legislature's failure

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Speaker 2: to act on especially fentanyl drug dealers. We're gonna see

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Speaker 2: what they're proposing here because it sounds like this might

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Speaker 2: be something that we can vote on. John and Ken

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Speaker 2: KFI AM six forty We're live everywhere in the iHeartRadio app.

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Speaker 1: And Deborah Mark live in the twenty four hour CAFI Newsroom.

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Speaker 2: Hey, you've been listening to the John and Ken Show.

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Speaker 2: forty one pm to four pm every Monday through Friday,

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