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Speaker 2: Welcome back to the o GZ. It is a Playmaker

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Speaker 2: original presented by DraftKings, and we got ourselves an elite

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Speaker 3: You know, I'm smiling, Florida. Stand up, they don't give

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Speaker 3: us number. Football hoop was down right?

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Speaker 2: Come whoop is now exactly NBA legend rookie year. I'm

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Speaker 2: gonna tell you some most impressive thing about rookie years,

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Speaker 2: coming straight out of high school and getting that Yes,

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Speaker 2: so I gotta get right to it. I want to

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Speaker 2: ask the question coming out of high school to me,

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Speaker 2: not only do you have to be ready there physically,

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Speaker 2: which most people aren't, but then the mental part of

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Speaker 3: Your agents asking is this your podcast?

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Speaker 2: Both both things can be true?

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Speaker 3: Okay, cool? So I just understand politically correct, right right?

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Speaker 1: You know, for me, high school was was a bit

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Speaker 1: of a journey, right, And a lot of players get

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Speaker 1: certain training and in high school and they get prepared

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna give you a good one. So I'm playing

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Speaker 2: for the magic. When you're in high school and everyone's like, man,

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Speaker 3: Do that.

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Speaker 2: Because I lived in out in the window mare. We lived,

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Speaker 3: Live, we lived together. We're supposed to be in school

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we lived in Orlando, right down the road for

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Speaker 2: I was like, what the fuck? Yeah, it was crazy.

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Speaker 2: But even I saying, I mean, what people understand is

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Speaker 2: because there's a misconcept, like everyone thinks everyone is gonna

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Speaker 2: it is you talk to any but his parents, everyone's

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Speaker 2: they don't understand how hard is to go as as

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Speaker 3: From playing twenty two games, right, and.

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Speaker 2: It's on a Friday, and you got to have forty

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Speaker 3: If you look at the definition of man child, it

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Speaker 3: Where did mentality come from? We know, because the mentality

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Speaker 2: And you say so, you say that all that in

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Speaker 2: To see a stat how many guys came out of

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Speaker 1: I can't believe I missed Lebron though, Guys, Yeah, he

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Speaker 2: I don't think people understand how hard that is.

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Speaker 3: you build to that. You don't just walk in practice

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Speaker 2: For answer, that's a good stat You and Nash led

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's crazy, Yes, you guys to your point, getting

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Speaker 1: I got Rookie of the Year. I was almost an

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Speaker 2: Elbow shit y'all used to do? Is that elbow clear

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: D'Antoni was there your rookie year.

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Speaker 3: I gotta guard him. I gotta go out. These centers

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Speaker 3: you got, you have my Tombo you had, you had

437
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Speaker 3: centers back then.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, thank you for the people listening at home

439
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Speaker 2: that watched it. It was it was centers, yeah.

440
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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, real centers back then. I got to guard them.

441
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Speaker 1: So what I decided was I said, all right, well

442
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Speaker 1: if I got to guard them, they gotta guard me. Yes,

443
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Speaker 1: and I can run them all day and then they're

444
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Speaker 1: gonna be tired third fourth quarter, then you know, then

445
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Speaker 1: I can rack them up.

446
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Speaker 3: Yes, yes, this is true.

447
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Speaker 2: That ship was so fun to want.

448
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Speaker 3: This is true fun to watch.

449
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Speaker 2: Like in Phoenix, what do you think was it that?

450
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Speaker 2: Because you guys just couldn't get over that a what

451
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Speaker 2: was it? What? What do you think it was? Because

452
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Speaker 2: then you obviously move on to go to New York.

453
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Speaker 2: What what was it? Because winning championships, by the way,

454
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Speaker 2: is fucking hard. Yeah it is, now I can help. Yeah,

455
00:19:20,640 --> 00:19:23,359
Speaker 2: they focused on much defense that we did. They focused

456
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Speaker 2: on much defense, and they didn't focus on much defense.

457
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Speaker 3: Once again, we talked about how great he was offensively,

458
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Speaker 3: twenty was ahead of the game. Defensively, it wasn't really

459
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Speaker 3: much of the focus. And we all know in the

460
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Speaker 3: seven game series, in the playoffs, I ain't running ship

461
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Speaker 3: you ain't seen before. You ain't running nothing we ain't

462
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Speaker 3: seen before.

463
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Speaker 1: I think that's why I wanted to That's what That's

464
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Speaker 1: what we didn't focus on. Defense was something that we

465
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Speaker 1: didn't focus on. And as a high school player, you know,

466
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Speaker 1: going into the NBA, I need to learn how to

467
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Speaker 1: play defense, right, And we never we never put emphasis

468
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Speaker 1: on that. I saw something with Steven. They were saying like, uh,

469
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Speaker 1: you know, we could have we could have brought in

470
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Speaker 1: Thibodeau as a coach to bring in some defense, but

471
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Speaker 1: we hired Mike Dan, Tony's brother. Right, So then I'm like, well, damn.

472
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Speaker 1: If I have known that, I would have push for

473
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Speaker 1: having to it though, to play some defense. Yes, so

474
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Speaker 1: I needed to learn that and I think playing against

475
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Speaker 1: the Spurs and the Lakers with Kobe and shocking these guys,

476
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Speaker 1: if you can't play defense, it's gonna be hardly won

477
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Speaker 1: a championship.

478
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Speaker 2: That Lakers team.

479
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Speaker 1: Gosh damn yeah, Kobe shocked and they had you know,

480
00:20:16,160 --> 00:20:18,800
Speaker 1: buying them and Gasol with Cob and then you have

481
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Speaker 1: the Spurs with with Tim and Manu and Tony parking them.

482
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Speaker 3: That West was tough. And then Dallas with Dirk and

483
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Speaker 3: the West was tough. I mean, bro, all those dames

484
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Speaker 3: that if I'm not mistaken, one of those years, Tony

485
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Speaker 3: Parker led the league in paint points. Yes, as a point,

486
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Speaker 3: you have Shock in the league, you have Tim Duncan

487
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Speaker 3: and the league, the league, the league, right, the person

488
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Speaker 3: that led the league at paint points was Tony Parker. Exactly.

489
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Speaker 3: Kids at home, understand what I because I think I

490
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Speaker 3: tell my son this all the time, being at tack mode.

491
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Speaker 3: Get two feet in the paint, don't be lazy. Absolutely,

492
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Speaker 3: just passed the ball. Passed the ball. No, get the

493
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Speaker 3: fucking get in the paint. You know what I'm saying,

494
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Speaker 3: and make a play for somebody. But right, that's all

495
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Speaker 3: Tony park It did get that motherfucker get in the

496
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Speaker 3: paint and made plays for people finished in the round.

497
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Speaker 3: But he was constantly putting pressure on the defense. Never

498
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Speaker 3: had a chance to rest.

499
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Speaker 2: When you when you made that decision to go to

500
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Speaker 2: New York, what was it? What was it?

501
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Speaker 3: Just? It was time, It was time. It was time.

502
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Speaker 2: I whipped there too.

503
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Speaker 1: Now, yeah, but I really wasn't looking forward to leaving,

504
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Speaker 1: be honest with you, right, I wanted I wanted to

505
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Speaker 1: stand Phoenix. I just got a bought a crib. I

506
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Speaker 1: had a whole.

507
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Speaker 2: I had a whole.

508
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Speaker 3: That was a big summer in free agency. Was the

509
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Speaker 3: way it was frigiing with free agents was Joe Johnson

510
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Speaker 3: was a loser.

511
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Speaker 1: Was friging a lot of guys are a big off

512
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Speaker 1: season for sure. And I wanted to stand Phoenix. And

513
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Speaker 1: I was trying to negotiate with uh the previous owner,

514
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Speaker 1: and he was like trying to trying to create this

515
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Speaker 1: whole football kind of contract with nothing's guarantee. I'm like, wait,

516
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Speaker 1: well on second, now, I just just let the team

517
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Speaker 1: in scoring rebounds and blocks, and we lost at a

518
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Speaker 1: buzzer beater. Kobe shot a buzzer beater run our test

519
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Speaker 1: scored it last second. We could have went to the

520
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Speaker 1: Western Finals off one shot and run it back.

521
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Speaker 3: Man.

522
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Speaker 1: Nash had a great had a great season, and he

523
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Speaker 1: was like, well, I want to try this, and I'm like, man,

524
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Speaker 1: I got no time for trying nothing. I just let

525
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Speaker 1: the team in scoring points, points, rebounds and blocks.

526
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Speaker 2: I'm not gonna be I'm not gonna be the guinea pig.

527
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Speaker 1: Pay that pay that fil so because he didn't want

528
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Speaker 1: to work that out, I decided to go elsewhere.

529
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Speaker 2: That's what's wrong with the leader. The business part of

530
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Speaker 2: it sometimes gets in there like that. Why would you

531
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532
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Speaker 3: You got? You got? You got?

533
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Speaker 1: Start of mind Nash the next Malone and Stockton. Keep

534
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Speaker 1: those two guys together, figure out the rest around that,

535
00:22:36,960 --> 00:22:38,720
Speaker 1: but keep you gotta keep you gotta keep them together

536
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Speaker 1: for the build around that rust we've been I've been

537
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Speaker 1: a part of a little dynasty and lights running, and

538
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Speaker 1: you you would hope that you can keep it together

539
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540
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541
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Speaker 1: You got that's why you got to get credit to

542
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Speaker 2: Talk about that next team, y'all had a whip too.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we did. I was familiar with the next program

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Speaker 1: because Mike d'Antona was the head coach there, right, So

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Speaker 1: and I was familiar with it.

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Speaker 3: At the time, we had.

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Speaker 1: All Stars.

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Speaker 1: There was no there was no high expectation for us, right,

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Speaker 1: and so for me, I wanted to go to New

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601
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Speaker 1: display my entire package, my my entire skill set. A

602
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603
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Speaker 1: And so when I went to New York, I had

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Speaker 1: to show the world like this is this is this

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607
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Speaker 1: lot of my teammates kind of you know, jumped on

608
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Speaker 1: that type of wave and we start rolling and then

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Speaker 1: and then we made the trade, brought a mellow then

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Speaker 1: we kept it going.

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Speaker 3: It was a whole thing. He said, well, that's not true,

612
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Speaker 3: because you you you became my mother fucking knocked down

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Speaker 3: shoot it like fifteen seventeen feet like that sh that

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Speaker 3: ship was. That shit was butter, you know what I'm saying, right,

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Speaker 3: And that obviously wasn't from Nash and picking rolling into

616
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Speaker 3: the basket, like you had to develop that shot. That

617
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Speaker 3: was something you had to work on for sure. Now

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Speaker 3: being athletic and as fucking quick as you are, somebody

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Speaker 3: got to take a step away from the basket and

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Speaker 3: guard you.

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Speaker 2: You can go by exactly with all those accolades and

622
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Speaker 2: everything you did, because you imagine you're playing this day

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Speaker 2: and age though, oh man, kill me, no every the

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Speaker 2: way you play three.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean it's no contact. You can't be physical,

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Speaker 1: you can't kid me. It's in the pin everybody. Another

627
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Speaker 1: thing I would give.

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Speaker 3: Him credit for is like because you the NBA. Now,

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Speaker 3: most motherfuckers want to get their pictures before they walk

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Speaker 3: in the gym, and they should. Fashion. You've been on that, yeah, yeah, yeah,

631
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Speaker 3: that fashion thing. You were in New York Fashion Week

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Speaker 3: traveling for fashion, like you got to get credit where

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Speaker 3: credit to do I'm gonnave him his flowers, like god

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Speaker 3: him d Wade. These guys was that fashion game before

635
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Speaker 3: it became cool. That was cool. Everybody fucking doing it. Sure,

636
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Speaker 3: you don't know what the fuck they're putting on. I

637
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Speaker 3: don't even know what the fuck they're putting on. But

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Speaker 3: they're putting that ship on. And as long as they

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Speaker 3: wear that ship with confidence, that's that's all they care about.

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Speaker 3: But you were doing that like we're from Florida to

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Speaker 3: fuck you know about fashion Week in Paris and all

642
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Speaker 3: that ship. Where did you get that ship from? Well?

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Speaker 1: You know, when I left Florida in the third grade. Oh,

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Speaker 1: and I moved to New York. Oh yeah, so my aunt.

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Speaker 1: My aunt lived in New York at the time. She

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Speaker 1: also had moved from Florida to New York. My mom

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Speaker 1: moved a few years later, so we all packed up

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Speaker 1: and left moved to New York. So I was in

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Speaker 1: New York for five years, new Burgh and then Port Jervis,

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Speaker 1: Oh ship, okay and so and then I moved to Atlanta.

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Speaker 1: Oh so, and then I moved Then I moved back

652
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Speaker 1: to Florida before before high school. So I soaked up

653
00:27:57,440 --> 00:28:00,360
Speaker 1: all this like this, this this fashion trends and all

654
00:28:00,359 --> 00:28:04,080
Speaker 1: these different cultures throughout my childhood of growing and my

655
00:28:04,080 --> 00:28:04,920
Speaker 1: mom was in fashion.

656
00:28:05,680 --> 00:28:06,040
Speaker 3: She had to.

657
00:28:06,080 --> 00:28:08,199
Speaker 1: She had the gold, gold teeth. She always was the

658
00:28:08,240 --> 00:28:11,720
Speaker 1: most fanciest clothing. She always had the fancy bags, and

659
00:28:11,800 --> 00:28:15,320
Speaker 1: so it was always it was always moms had had

660
00:28:15,359 --> 00:28:16,000
Speaker 1: us with the hair.

661
00:28:15,840 --> 00:28:18,440
Speaker 3: And bones on Jordan's hair and bone. I remember the

662
00:28:20,560 --> 00:28:24,359
Speaker 3: yeah beeple yeah, yeah, people.

663
00:28:24,080 --> 00:28:25,399
Speaker 5: I had the hair and bone to my term of

664
00:28:25,480 --> 00:28:29,280
Speaker 5: net green though we had those. We definitely have those

665
00:28:29,320 --> 00:28:33,080
Speaker 5: for sure. Not you're the real John yeah yeah, yeah

666
00:28:34,119 --> 00:28:36,680
Speaker 5: put on, but it was really right for the show

667
00:28:36,760 --> 00:28:37,160
Speaker 5: for sure.

668
00:28:37,560 --> 00:28:39,040
Speaker 2: I don't get sid checked. I don't talk about the

669
00:28:39,040 --> 00:28:40,120
Speaker 2: next thing because that ship was good.

670
00:28:40,360 --> 00:28:42,600
Speaker 3: That was a good team we had to deal with.

671
00:28:43,360 --> 00:28:46,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, what was I mean? Because obviously we talked about

672
00:28:46,800 --> 00:28:49,200
Speaker 2: winning championship was hard. That team had the make up

673
00:28:49,240 --> 00:28:52,320
Speaker 2: for a championship type team. What was it the you know,

674
00:28:52,480 --> 00:28:54,040
Speaker 2: what was it that you thought fell short on that

675
00:28:54,080 --> 00:28:55,560
Speaker 2: outside of just playing the Miami Heat.

676
00:28:56,440 --> 00:29:00,959
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean that year when we when we had

677
00:29:00,960 --> 00:29:01,720
Speaker 3: when we had j R.

678
00:29:01,720 --> 00:29:07,000
Speaker 1: Smith, sump B d uh Tyson, Chandler, we had Jay Kidd,

679
00:29:07,720 --> 00:29:10,320
Speaker 1: We had a solid veteran group, right, and so we

680
00:29:10,360 --> 00:29:13,880
Speaker 1: brought when Mike Woodson brought those guys in, then we

681
00:29:13,920 --> 00:29:18,400
Speaker 1: had structure, right, and so everybody played within that particular role,

682
00:29:18,400 --> 00:29:21,560
Speaker 1: and we had we had a nice cohesive unit, and

683
00:29:21,600 --> 00:29:23,000
Speaker 1: so we had a chance. We just can get over

684
00:29:23,000 --> 00:29:25,040
Speaker 1: the hump. And obviously playing the Heat was always a

685
00:29:25,040 --> 00:29:27,960
Speaker 1: tough matchup, uh, coming down to Miami. But yeah, we

686
00:29:27,960 --> 00:29:30,200
Speaker 1: we had we had a solid team. It was well constructed,

687
00:29:30,680 --> 00:29:31,680
Speaker 1: but we just didn't have enough.

688
00:29:32,360 --> 00:29:34,360
Speaker 3: Wean't talk about playing this and that's that I remember this.

689
00:29:34,680 --> 00:29:36,320
Speaker 3: We played out in the playoffs. You went there and

690
00:29:36,320 --> 00:29:39,000
Speaker 3: broke some ship and it hurt your hand? What made

691
00:29:39,040 --> 00:29:39,320
Speaker 3: you that?

692
00:29:39,360 --> 00:29:39,520
Speaker 2: Man?

693
00:29:39,640 --> 00:29:41,600
Speaker 3: It was just game like game won a game two?

694
00:29:41,640 --> 00:29:43,680
Speaker 3: Why you went that man? Game wanted the goddamn serious

695
00:29:43,680 --> 00:29:44,880
Speaker 3: stat The ball wasn't moving.

696
00:29:45,080 --> 00:29:50,480
Speaker 1: We dealt with we we dealt with it all season long, right,

697
00:29:50,520 --> 00:29:52,440
Speaker 1: and the ball just wasn't moving, and guys weren't able

698
00:29:52,520 --> 00:29:54,600
Speaker 1: to be great. Like when I when I first got

699
00:29:54,640 --> 00:29:56,600
Speaker 1: to New York, the one thing I wanted to do

700
00:29:56,680 --> 00:29:58,920
Speaker 1: was make sure everybody felt like they were involved and

701
00:29:58,960 --> 00:30:01,400
Speaker 1: felt great. Wilson Chandler had a career year.

702
00:30:02,760 --> 00:30:05,920
Speaker 2: Had Wilson Chandler was good as ship, right.

703
00:30:06,080 --> 00:30:08,920
Speaker 1: Gotti had had had a career year where he felt

704
00:30:08,920 --> 00:30:11,080
Speaker 1: and I got Timothy mosk Off paid, you know what

705
00:30:11,120 --> 00:30:15,920
Speaker 1: I'm saying, So everybody women film got paid. So my

706
00:30:16,040 --> 00:30:18,200
Speaker 1: thing was, that's how we can be a great team.

707
00:30:18,760 --> 00:30:21,400
Speaker 1: And then we're getting the playoffs. With all that entire season,

708
00:30:21,520 --> 00:30:23,239
Speaker 1: the ball wasn't moving. They're getting the playoffs and it's

709
00:30:23,240 --> 00:30:26,840
Speaker 1: still happening. So I'm frustrated. And I walked through. I

710
00:30:26,880 --> 00:30:30,600
Speaker 1: walked through the hallway and I reached back and hit

711
00:30:30,640 --> 00:30:33,320
Speaker 1: the wall and and that's that's that's when I that's

712
00:30:33,360 --> 00:30:34,600
Speaker 1: when I cut my hand by accident.

713
00:30:35,320 --> 00:30:36,640
Speaker 3: I was like, damn, it's just game one.

714
00:30:38,160 --> 00:30:41,200
Speaker 1: Pop ARROSSI out front. Everybody was going on. I mean,

715
00:30:41,280 --> 00:30:44,320
Speaker 1: the cameras are everywhere. I'm like, what all this for?

716
00:30:44,360 --> 00:30:46,040
Speaker 3: This? It was crazy.

717
00:30:48,720 --> 00:30:50,840
Speaker 1: When I reached when I reached back to hit the wall,

718
00:30:52,280 --> 00:30:54,239
Speaker 1: just a part of my hand was was cut. I

719
00:30:54,280 --> 00:30:56,600
Speaker 1: caught the edge of the of the fire singersure case.

720
00:30:57,400 --> 00:31:01,520
Speaker 3: But you played that series that ship up. I got

721
00:31:01,800 --> 00:31:03,440
Speaker 3: all that ship and I ain't gonna last that. You know,

722
00:31:03,440 --> 00:31:04,960
Speaker 3: I'm from the old school. Every now and then I

723
00:31:04,960 --> 00:31:06,800
Speaker 3: tried to tap you on your hand just to see

724
00:31:08,480 --> 00:31:10,000
Speaker 3: every now and there you be on the court out

725
00:31:11,320 --> 00:31:13,920
Speaker 3: just to see how you feel it, Just see how

726
00:31:13,960 --> 00:31:16,200
Speaker 3: you feeling today. I slapped that, well, see how you

727
00:31:16,240 --> 00:31:16,800
Speaker 3: feel today.

728
00:31:16,960 --> 00:31:20,160
Speaker 1: We got to it, got back to it. And the

729
00:31:20,160 --> 00:31:22,520
Speaker 1: funny thing is too I had to go. So after that,

730
00:31:22,560 --> 00:31:25,440
Speaker 1: after Game two in New York, we had the mac Galla.

731
00:31:26,200 --> 00:31:27,720
Speaker 1: So back to the fashion deal. I was on the

732
00:31:27,760 --> 00:31:30,480
Speaker 1: board the mac Galla with voguean in these stages and

733
00:31:30,520 --> 00:31:33,280
Speaker 1: so now I'm getting dressed in my tuxedo and I

734
00:31:33,280 --> 00:31:36,040
Speaker 1: gotta I gotta try to finess the look a little bit,

735
00:31:36,040 --> 00:31:37,200
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, when I get to the

736
00:31:37,240 --> 00:31:37,680
Speaker 1: mac Galla.

737
00:31:37,800 --> 00:31:39,280
Speaker 3: So it was, it was. It was a whole wave,

738
00:31:40,480 --> 00:31:42,480
Speaker 3: but you know, it is what it is. And part

739
00:31:42,520 --> 00:31:44,240
Speaker 3: of part of your move to New York and making

740
00:31:44,240 --> 00:31:47,280
Speaker 3: the relocation to New York was was was basketball as well,

741
00:31:47,280 --> 00:31:49,200
Speaker 3: but it was also some other things that you wanted

742
00:31:49,200 --> 00:31:50,640
Speaker 3: to tap into. There was other things you wanted to

743
00:31:50,640 --> 00:31:54,320
Speaker 3: find out about yourself, about your faith, business wise, there

744
00:31:54,400 --> 00:31:56,640
Speaker 3: was so many things that that you tapped into by

745
00:31:56,680 --> 00:31:58,720
Speaker 3: making that move to New York. You want to touch

746
00:31:58,760 --> 00:32:00,840
Speaker 3: on some of that because a lot of things and

747
00:32:00,840 --> 00:32:02,280
Speaker 3: it's amazing how much shit you did. I didn't know

748
00:32:02,320 --> 00:32:03,720
Speaker 3: you did all the ship that you did. I know

749
00:32:03,760 --> 00:32:05,240
Speaker 3: you did some of the things, but as I'm reading,

750
00:32:05,240 --> 00:32:08,640
Speaker 3: I'm like, goddamn meat record level, Like it's just that

751
00:32:08,720 --> 00:32:11,280
Speaker 3: you're touching in. But moving to New York allows you

752
00:32:11,320 --> 00:32:14,080
Speaker 3: to opportunity to tap into these things because obviously Phoenix

753
00:32:14,120 --> 00:32:16,520
Speaker 3: just didn't have the growth maybe that you were looking

754
00:32:16,520 --> 00:32:19,040
Speaker 3: for off the basketball court. But right when you got

755
00:32:19,040 --> 00:32:20,360
Speaker 3: to New York, you tapped into a lot of ship.

756
00:32:20,760 --> 00:32:21,000
Speaker 3: I was.

757
00:32:21,200 --> 00:32:23,080
Speaker 1: I was always innovative, right, I had a record I

758
00:32:23,080 --> 00:32:25,280
Speaker 1: had a record company. When I was in Phoenix, I

759
00:32:25,320 --> 00:32:27,760
Speaker 1: signed artists. I had them, I was working at their

760
00:32:27,800 --> 00:32:29,840
Speaker 1: deals and got them out, worked with Grandhusel for a

761
00:32:29,840 --> 00:32:36,840
Speaker 1: little bit with I was working with Black Walls Street.

762
00:32:37,680 --> 00:32:38,320
Speaker 3: So I did that.

763
00:32:38,360 --> 00:32:39,680
Speaker 1: I was doing that, and then I got into a

764
00:32:39,720 --> 00:32:41,320
Speaker 1: little bit of fashion in Phoenix. But then when I

765
00:32:41,360 --> 00:32:44,680
Speaker 1: got to New York, I got involved in like more acting,

766
00:32:44,760 --> 00:32:47,920
Speaker 1: more producing. I produced the Broadways, showed the Rock of Ages,

767
00:32:49,120 --> 00:32:51,120
Speaker 1: and then I got into the obviously obviously the you

768
00:32:51,120 --> 00:32:53,440
Speaker 1: know the Matt Galla deal with all the fashion shows.

769
00:32:54,520 --> 00:32:56,719
Speaker 1: And then I started learning more of my of my faith. Right,

770
00:32:56,720 --> 00:32:59,080
Speaker 1: I started learning Torah a lot more on start because

771
00:32:59,080 --> 00:33:00,880
Speaker 1: I was going through injuries sometimes and I wanted to

772
00:33:00,960 --> 00:33:04,320
Speaker 1: kind of tap in more my spirituality and so all

773
00:33:04,400 --> 00:33:06,760
Speaker 1: that somewhat manifest the entire time I was in New.

774
00:33:06,680 --> 00:33:09,600
Speaker 3: York that when you start bathing in the wine, I

775
00:33:09,680 --> 00:33:20,680
Speaker 3: have the wine bath. Yeah, I'm like, you needed nobody

776
00:33:20,720 --> 00:33:21,520
Speaker 3: got enough money to poke?

777
00:33:21,680 --> 00:33:24,920
Speaker 2: I love I love me a little bino.

778
00:33:25,440 --> 00:33:27,280
Speaker 1: Ye yeah yeah, yeah for sure. Now it was it's

779
00:33:27,280 --> 00:33:29,320
Speaker 1: a spot. You go to a spot and they offered

780
00:33:29,400 --> 00:33:31,400
Speaker 1: it was a spot. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, you

781
00:33:31,800 --> 00:33:33,440
Speaker 1: got all you got all the bass, right, you got

782
00:33:33,440 --> 00:33:35,960
Speaker 1: the salt bath, you got the cold plunge, you got

783
00:33:35,960 --> 00:33:38,640
Speaker 1: the uh you know obviously the pool and then they

784
00:33:38,680 --> 00:33:41,680
Speaker 1: have like a like a special wine bath situation.

785
00:33:42,520 --> 00:33:44,840
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, What for me, you didn't

786
00:33:44,840 --> 00:33:47,080
Speaker 3: tell me about no place we can go get wine.

787
00:33:46,880 --> 00:33:47,240
Speaker 2: Bass and.

788
00:33:49,040 --> 00:33:51,520
Speaker 3: It's like a membership only kind of.

789
00:33:53,880 --> 00:33:56,360
Speaker 2: I need to know about what was the science behind it?

790
00:33:56,640 --> 00:33:58,280
Speaker 1: They say they say that the red so they have

791
00:33:58,360 --> 00:34:00,360
Speaker 1: the red wine mixed with water. Right, so it's not

792
00:34:00,400 --> 00:34:03,000
Speaker 1: one hundred percent wine, but they say the red the

793
00:34:03,040 --> 00:34:06,280
Speaker 1: red wine, you know, help your red blood cells to circulate.

794
00:34:06,760 --> 00:34:08,640
Speaker 1: So you sit there in like a ninety eight degree

795
00:34:08,960 --> 00:34:12,000
Speaker 1: bath with wine and water and then they bring your

796
00:34:12,040 --> 00:34:13,920
Speaker 1: separate glass to wine. You sit down and chill and

797
00:34:13,960 --> 00:34:14,399
Speaker 1: just lash.

798
00:34:14,440 --> 00:34:21,000
Speaker 2: For how did Mike go He was taking a wine bad.

799
00:34:21,000 --> 00:34:22,839
Speaker 2: I had a little so much drink. Yeah, yea, yeah yeah,

800
00:34:22,880 --> 00:34:23,640
Speaker 2: and I Mike loved it.

801
00:34:23,640 --> 00:34:25,239
Speaker 3: He loved it. He knew, he knew. I was all

802
00:34:25,280 --> 00:34:26,080
Speaker 3: in that in that space.

803
00:34:26,120 --> 00:34:27,879
Speaker 1: And the thing is, when I got to New York,

804
00:34:28,320 --> 00:34:31,200
Speaker 1: no players was living in the city. But even back

805
00:34:31,200 --> 00:34:33,160
Speaker 1: there outside the city and just use a car back

806
00:34:33,160 --> 00:34:35,520
Speaker 1: and forth, yeah, back back and pat you and days

807
00:34:35,520 --> 00:34:38,120
Speaker 1: and those guys nobody living in I'm like, what, like,

808
00:34:38,160 --> 00:34:39,840
Speaker 1: there's no way I'm not staying out in white planes.

809
00:34:39,880 --> 00:34:44,080
Speaker 3: I'm going to the city. Yeah. So yeah, man, absolutely.

810
00:34:43,920 --> 00:34:46,640
Speaker 2: You joined the Heat and during their transition period talk

811
00:34:46,680 --> 00:34:48,520
Speaker 2: about the Heat because we always talk about Heat culture

812
00:34:48,520 --> 00:34:50,560
Speaker 2: and identity here is was it different than the other

813
00:34:50,600 --> 00:34:54,399
Speaker 2: stops or I mean, obviously every stop is different, but

814
00:34:54,520 --> 00:34:56,200
Speaker 2: we always like to talk about the Heat stuff here.

815
00:34:56,560 --> 00:34:57,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, the Heat.

816
00:34:57,160 --> 00:34:59,880
Speaker 1: The Heat organization was perfect for me, right because for

817
00:35:00,239 --> 00:35:03,360
Speaker 1: while I'm back home, like I'm back in Florida, my

818
00:35:03,440 --> 00:35:05,239
Speaker 1: home was here, so I can drive to the game

819
00:35:05,280 --> 00:35:07,040
Speaker 1: without having to buy a place to rent a place.

820
00:35:07,880 --> 00:35:11,400
Speaker 1: And then the culture was great, right, everyone was Everyone

821
00:35:11,520 --> 00:35:15,120
Speaker 1: was like cohesive. We all got along from top to bottom,

822
00:35:15,440 --> 00:35:17,520
Speaker 1: you know, from the ownership down through Pat all down

823
00:35:17,560 --> 00:35:20,200
Speaker 1: to the players on down to the weight training crew.

824
00:35:20,320 --> 00:35:20,480
Speaker 2: Right.

825
00:35:20,560 --> 00:35:22,440
Speaker 1: We all had this this this culture that called the

826
00:35:22,480 --> 00:35:25,040
Speaker 1: Heat culture where everybody just kind of wants the best

827
00:35:25,040 --> 00:35:27,759
Speaker 1: for each other. And for me, I thrived in that right.

828
00:35:27,920 --> 00:35:29,200
Speaker 1: And I was toward the end of my career and

829
00:35:29,200 --> 00:35:32,040
Speaker 1: I was still trying to maintain healthy and stay on

830
00:35:32,120 --> 00:35:34,640
Speaker 1: top of my game, and everybody was giving me encouragement

831
00:35:34,680 --> 00:35:36,640
Speaker 1: and allowed me to kind of keep pushing through and

832
00:35:36,719 --> 00:35:39,200
Speaker 1: keep and keep striving for it to become better and better. Right,

833
00:35:39,239 --> 00:35:42,520
Speaker 1: So that for me was what was a great moment

834
00:35:42,520 --> 00:35:45,080
Speaker 1: for myself. I always want to be here because even

835
00:35:45,160 --> 00:35:48,360
Speaker 1: back when I was drafted to Phoenix, Pat told me

836
00:35:48,360 --> 00:35:50,680
Speaker 1: to say, listen, we had the tenth pick and if

837
00:35:50,719 --> 00:35:52,280
Speaker 1: you if you would have if you would have dropped

838
00:35:52,320 --> 00:35:55,319
Speaker 1: to that instead of being taken ninth, they would have

839
00:35:55,320 --> 00:35:56,000
Speaker 1: took me at ten.

840
00:35:56,239 --> 00:35:56,759
Speaker 3: Wow.

841
00:35:56,920 --> 00:35:59,000
Speaker 1: So I knew one day that I'd probably make my

842
00:35:59,040 --> 00:35:59,880
Speaker 1: way back to Miami.

843
00:36:00,239 --> 00:36:02,600
Speaker 3: I mean, I mean, I don't know if you remember this,

844
00:36:02,680 --> 00:36:05,359
Speaker 3: but obviously giving Ayr flowers because it was a lot

845
00:36:05,400 --> 00:36:07,359
Speaker 3: of times, me being a OG on the team, it's

846
00:36:07,400 --> 00:36:09,879
Speaker 3: like I got advice for everybody, But who the hell

847
00:36:09,960 --> 00:36:12,000
Speaker 3: give me advice? You know what I'm saying. But it

848
00:36:12,040 --> 00:36:14,359
Speaker 3: was many times me and you had conversations because it'll

849
00:36:14,400 --> 00:36:16,359
Speaker 3: be some games that you probably ain't playing, some games

850
00:36:16,360 --> 00:36:18,120
Speaker 3: I ain't play. So we had to talk each other

851
00:36:18,160 --> 00:36:21,120
Speaker 3: off that leg. Right, absolutely, you know, when opportunity comes,

852
00:36:21,200 --> 00:36:22,560
Speaker 3: just stay ready to stack because you know we ain't

853
00:36:23,000 --> 00:36:25,480
Speaker 3: competitors like we see we can help the team win,

854
00:36:25,600 --> 00:36:27,160
Speaker 3: and we're not out there getting the opportunity to help the

855
00:36:27,160 --> 00:36:28,279
Speaker 3: team win. That shit.

856
00:36:28,280 --> 00:36:30,520
Speaker 1: Get frustrated and then practice we're putting in work. Yeah,

857
00:36:31,040 --> 00:36:33,120
Speaker 1: you see you deep ball them. You like, let's get

858
00:36:33,160 --> 00:36:34,440
Speaker 1: in the game, coach with us saying.

859
00:36:34,360 --> 00:36:35,520
Speaker 3: So it was a couple of times we had to

860
00:36:35,520 --> 00:36:37,520
Speaker 3: talk each other off that lege and each other therapist,

861
00:36:37,600 --> 00:36:39,600
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying. But obviously he played more

862
00:36:39,600 --> 00:36:41,279
Speaker 3: than me, and when he got his opportunity, he stood

863
00:36:41,320 --> 00:36:43,359
Speaker 3: tall in the paint. But if your mind ain't right,

864
00:36:43,440 --> 00:36:46,040
Speaker 3: when your opportunity does come, you be ready to perform.

865
00:36:46,239 --> 00:36:48,360
Speaker 3: I'm still mad about this shit happened last week, and

866
00:36:48,440 --> 00:36:50,840
Speaker 3: he's still mad. You ain't getting the game, So I

867
00:36:50,880 --> 00:36:52,880
Speaker 3: appreciate you for that because nobody was able to talk

868
00:36:52,920 --> 00:36:54,839
Speaker 3: to me. I'm always giving advice. It ain't nobody give

869
00:36:54,880 --> 00:36:56,600
Speaker 3: me no fucking advice, you know what I'm saying. Ain't

870
00:36:56,600 --> 00:36:58,440
Speaker 3: nobody ever giving me advice. I gotta figure it the

871
00:36:58,440 --> 00:37:00,319
Speaker 3: fuck out because I'm the old motherfucker on the team.

872
00:37:00,640 --> 00:37:02,160
Speaker 3: So it was good to have somebody where I could

873
00:37:02,200 --> 00:37:04,200
Speaker 3: talk to, somebody that could give me advice, and somebody

874
00:37:04,200 --> 00:37:06,160
Speaker 3: had been through the same ship I've been through, somebody

875
00:37:06,160 --> 00:37:08,279
Speaker 3: that seen everything but the wind like myself. These young

876
00:37:08,320 --> 00:37:11,760
Speaker 3: motherfuckers don't know nothing. I can't ask these ship I can't.

877
00:37:12,080 --> 00:37:13,680
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. Exact worked out for me.

878
00:37:13,760 --> 00:37:15,040
Speaker 3: That was a good thing for me to have another

879
00:37:15,080 --> 00:37:18,200
Speaker 3: fucking o. G see every day, see everything, but I've

880
00:37:18,200 --> 00:37:23,200
Speaker 3: seen everything but the win. I seen everything, but gosh,

881
00:37:23,239 --> 00:37:24,480
Speaker 3: they ain't see everything with the win.

882
00:37:25,000 --> 00:37:27,440
Speaker 2: Give me your give me your top five, give me

883
00:37:27,480 --> 00:37:28,880
Speaker 2: your mount rushmore Power forwards.

884
00:37:28,880 --> 00:37:30,719
Speaker 3: We're gonna ask them about that Olympic ship though. We

885
00:37:30,760 --> 00:37:36,280
Speaker 3: are gonna ask Mount rushmore Power forwards. Wow.

886
00:37:36,800 --> 00:37:43,279
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, uh my Mount rushmore Power forwards. I'm going

887
00:37:43,360 --> 00:37:47,480
Speaker 1: with Tim Duncan. I did to go with Tim Duncan,

888
00:37:47,880 --> 00:37:53,000
Speaker 1: Charles Barkley. This is four right, My Rushmore's four power forwards,

889
00:37:55,480 --> 00:37:57,520
Speaker 1: Kevin Garnett k G.

890
00:37:59,480 --> 00:38:12,200
Speaker 3: And I'm going with mhm, the Diggler dirt Mmm. Either.

891
00:38:12,440 --> 00:38:15,000
Speaker 1: I mean it can be Bill Russell was with a center,

892
00:38:15,600 --> 00:38:21,239
Speaker 1: he was a center, a center. Yeah, I would have

893
00:38:21,320 --> 00:38:26,839
Speaker 1: I would have to probably go with dirt because Carl

894
00:38:26,880 --> 00:38:29,120
Speaker 1: Malone was good, but he wasn't as good as Dirk

895
00:38:29,360 --> 00:38:33,240
Speaker 1: if you you know, in my opinion, most Malone was solid,

896
00:38:33,800 --> 00:38:37,000
Speaker 1: but I think he was also center at times. So

897
00:38:37,040 --> 00:38:37,919
Speaker 1: I'm about to go with dirt.

898
00:38:40,480 --> 00:38:42,759
Speaker 3: I'll get that for I can't I'll get that at all.

899
00:38:43,200 --> 00:38:45,319
Speaker 3: But while we're on the topics of power forwards, and

900
00:38:45,360 --> 00:38:47,360
Speaker 3: this is what I want to tap into when I

901
00:38:47,360 --> 00:38:49,920
Speaker 3: look around the league and I'm watching these games, one

902
00:38:49,920 --> 00:38:53,560
Speaker 3: of my favorite players to watch is Zion. But what

903
00:38:53,880 --> 00:38:55,640
Speaker 3: do you think that it's kind of off the topic

904
00:38:55,680 --> 00:38:57,680
Speaker 3: of what we're talking about, but I have my opinion

905
00:38:57,800 --> 00:38:59,120
Speaker 3: what you think that he needs to do to get

906
00:38:59,120 --> 00:39:01,560
Speaker 3: over the hump, because he's one of my favorite powerful

907
00:39:01,600 --> 00:39:03,239
Speaker 3: is to watch. I see his ceilings so high for

908
00:39:03,280 --> 00:39:06,000
Speaker 3: this kid, it's just health is one thing. Health is

909
00:39:06,000 --> 00:39:07,560
Speaker 3: one thing. You know what I'm saying, do you think

910
00:39:07,600 --> 00:39:10,719
Speaker 3: that he has the mentality to get over the hump

911
00:39:10,719 --> 00:39:15,120
Speaker 3: and the situation? And with the Pelicans, it's it's tough.

912
00:39:15,160 --> 00:39:15,680
Speaker 3: It's tough.

913
00:39:15,800 --> 00:39:18,879
Speaker 1: It's tough when when when health is an issue, right,

914
00:39:18,920 --> 00:39:20,600
Speaker 1: and you're not able to play and perform on a

915
00:39:20,640 --> 00:39:24,000
Speaker 1: consistent basis, and then now you're second guessing your athleticism,

916
00:39:24,040 --> 00:39:26,480
Speaker 1: your second guessing your game and then the no prevention

917
00:39:26,560 --> 00:39:28,959
Speaker 1: it stopped you from being able to like improve because

918
00:39:28,960 --> 00:39:32,360
Speaker 1: you got to work on recovery. And I think I

919
00:39:32,360 --> 00:39:34,520
Speaker 1: think for Zion, if he if he work on like

920
00:39:35,080 --> 00:39:37,200
Speaker 1: his perimeter skills, right, he gets a lot of points

921
00:39:37,200 --> 00:39:40,200
Speaker 1: in the paint. Yes he does, and that's based off athleticism,

922
00:39:40,800 --> 00:39:43,719
Speaker 1: But as you get older and time kick in, you

923
00:39:43,800 --> 00:39:45,920
Speaker 1: got to be able to shoot the rock, make decisions

924
00:39:45,960 --> 00:39:48,279
Speaker 1: off the dribble. So I think just just kind of

925
00:39:48,320 --> 00:39:51,760
Speaker 1: improving his game on the perimeter side and then also

926
00:39:51,840 --> 00:39:54,880
Speaker 1: keeping it aggressive in the paint flow will be healthful

927
00:39:54,920 --> 00:39:57,520
Speaker 1: for him. Not just being athletic. You can you can't

928
00:39:57,560 --> 00:39:58,640
Speaker 1: depend on that all the time.

929
00:39:58,680 --> 00:40:01,440
Speaker 2: What he's saying is like people understand how grueling that

930
00:40:01,520 --> 00:40:03,720
Speaker 2: is on your body. You guys know, I'm talking about.

931
00:40:03,560 --> 00:40:07,080
Speaker 3: People at home I'm sixteen, so Zion six seven, right,

932
00:40:07,080 --> 00:40:11,000
Speaker 3: and Zion was six five six maybe.

933
00:40:10,800 --> 00:40:13,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, people understand how grueling that is for eighty two

934
00:40:13,320 --> 00:40:15,880
Speaker 2: games to be just a savage and the paint and

935
00:40:15,960 --> 00:40:18,439
Speaker 2: attack and hit bodies and do that stuff. Like as

936
00:40:18,480 --> 00:40:20,360
Speaker 2: your career goes on, you have, like you said, you

937
00:40:20,440 --> 00:40:22,719
Speaker 2: have to lean on It's like bron Brown's becoming a

938
00:40:22,719 --> 00:40:24,520
Speaker 2: three point shooter, man, you have to you have to

939
00:40:24,600 --> 00:40:25,480
Speaker 2: lean on something else.

940
00:40:26,160 --> 00:40:28,279
Speaker 3: My thing is just does he have the mentality? That's

941
00:40:28,360 --> 00:40:31,839
Speaker 3: good question. Nobody gonna change your situation, nobody gonna get

942
00:40:31,840 --> 00:40:34,640
Speaker 3: you in shape but yourself. Right. Exactly does he have

943
00:40:34,680 --> 00:40:36,879
Speaker 3: the mentality? Is my question? Because all the physical ship

944
00:40:36,960 --> 00:40:39,640
Speaker 3: is there. I love what I see physically, but mentally

945
00:40:39,640 --> 00:40:40,680
Speaker 3: does he have the mentality?

946
00:40:40,760 --> 00:40:43,080
Speaker 1: And you can tell if the mental is there if

947
00:40:43,120 --> 00:40:45,560
Speaker 1: you're in shape when you when you see somebody in

948
00:40:45,600 --> 00:40:48,200
Speaker 1: shape like yeah he ready, oh yeah, if you got

949
00:40:48,239 --> 00:40:50,680
Speaker 1: to shape, like yeah, yeah.

950
00:40:50,200 --> 00:40:53,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know I agree with that. You're doing all

951
00:40:53,880 --> 00:40:57,839
Speaker 3: summer right, exactly exactly. I used to take a month off, bro.

952
00:40:58,000 --> 00:40:59,799
Speaker 3: If that three weeks maybe a month, and we back

953
00:40:59,800 --> 00:41:04,440
Speaker 3: at and I'm ship is on right, I'm hitting that

954
00:41:04,480 --> 00:41:08,399
Speaker 3: motherfucker tread man, running outside, right, is a lifestyle. When

955
00:41:08,440 --> 00:41:09,480
Speaker 3: you get to this leg.

956
00:41:09,960 --> 00:41:12,480
Speaker 2: Earlier, you get your earlier, you get your mindset around that.

957
00:41:12,640 --> 00:41:14,000
Speaker 2: What you're all talking about, the law.

958
00:41:13,880 --> 00:41:15,600
Speaker 3: Of your career is going to because it's a lifestyle.

959
00:41:15,600 --> 00:41:18,040
Speaker 3: When it's over, it's over, exactly right. It is a lifestyle.

960
00:41:18,160 --> 00:41:20,200
Speaker 2: Touch on the US a ship. You want to talk about?

961
00:41:20,320 --> 00:41:22,680
Speaker 3: Man, what the hell happens that I got the I

962
00:41:22,719 --> 00:41:23,560
Speaker 3: got the bronze, didn't it?

963
00:41:23,960 --> 00:41:32,200
Speaker 1: We got the bronze? Happened Larry Brown? Larry Brown happened. Damn,

964
00:41:32,440 --> 00:41:33,920
Speaker 1: I gotta keep it the buck. Yeah, I just I

965
00:41:34,040 --> 00:41:38,240
Speaker 1: just I just understand the coaching philosophy. I didn't understand

966
00:41:38,239 --> 00:41:41,600
Speaker 1: what was going on because you had players like myself, Carmelo,

967
00:41:42,040 --> 00:41:44,960
Speaker 1: d Wade, and Lebron on the bench.

968
00:41:46,239 --> 00:41:47,479
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. I'm like, you.

969
00:41:47,360 --> 00:41:50,839
Speaker 1: Got, you got Jefferson, you got you got these guys

970
00:41:50,840 --> 00:41:51,600
Speaker 1: playing in front of us.

971
00:41:51,600 --> 00:41:53,360
Speaker 3: So listen, this is and I got this And I

972
00:41:53,360 --> 00:41:55,920
Speaker 3: got the same story from d Wade. It was it

973
00:41:55,960 --> 00:41:57,680
Speaker 3: was not a knock. He didn't say, Larry Brown, but

974
00:41:57,719 --> 00:42:00,760
Speaker 3: it was more so the veteran guy has got to play,

975
00:42:00,880 --> 00:42:03,000
Speaker 3: and you're younger guys. You he didn't believe in young

976
00:42:03,000 --> 00:42:05,319
Speaker 3: guys playing if the veteran guys got the player around

977
00:42:05,320 --> 00:42:06,680
Speaker 3: it the ways.

978
00:42:06,400 --> 00:42:07,520
Speaker 2: Hold on, hold on, give me this.

979
00:42:07,719 --> 00:42:09,520
Speaker 3: I had the same conversation with me this roster.

980
00:42:09,560 --> 00:42:12,239
Speaker 1: Who was on it, Well, we had we had Steph Marlberry,

981
00:42:12,480 --> 00:42:16,480
Speaker 1: Ai Duncan Boozer was a boozer on the squad. I

982
00:42:16,520 --> 00:42:24,319
Speaker 1: think it was Richard Jefferson, lamar old them. Shawn Marion was, yeah,

983
00:42:25,480 --> 00:42:29,359
Speaker 1: those guys on it. And then and then and then

984
00:42:29,400 --> 00:42:33,359
Speaker 1: the young gunners which was me, uh mellow, d Wad

985
00:42:33,680 --> 00:42:36,400
Speaker 1: and and Braun. And then we had to make a ogrepher.

986
00:42:36,640 --> 00:42:39,319
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. I might have missed someone

987
00:42:39,400 --> 00:42:40,840
Speaker 1: that might might have been someone that was there, that

988
00:42:40,880 --> 00:42:43,359
Speaker 1: wasn't there, whatever, But that was the gist of the team.

989
00:42:43,600 --> 00:42:45,520
Speaker 1: And Larry Brown didn't believe in playing young players, so

990
00:42:45,560 --> 00:42:47,960
Speaker 1: we got no planning time. D Wade got the most

991
00:42:47,960 --> 00:42:49,920
Speaker 1: playing todd all of us, I think, because he had

992
00:42:49,960 --> 00:42:52,480
Speaker 1: college experience and all these things. Me and Lebron high

993
00:42:52,520 --> 00:42:54,880
Speaker 1: school kids. Mellow one, you want to done, you know

994
00:42:54,880 --> 00:42:56,600
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. So we are we are. We had

995
00:42:56,640 --> 00:42:59,600
Speaker 1: no burn. I'm like coach put us in, you know

996
00:42:59,880 --> 00:43:02,120
Speaker 1: we you know what I'm saying like you kidding me? Yeah,

997
00:43:02,560 --> 00:43:04,480
Speaker 1: what happened it? Now they said the same thing. He

998
00:43:04,480 --> 00:43:06,640
Speaker 1: said that they didn't they didn't play the young guys. Yeah,

999
00:43:06,800 --> 00:43:08,440
Speaker 1: we didn't get in specifics wide, but he said they

1000
00:43:08,520 --> 00:43:10,120
Speaker 1: just didn't play the young guys around that time, and

1001
00:43:10,160 --> 00:43:12,120
Speaker 1: we got no explanation, Like coach talked to us while

1002
00:43:12,120 --> 00:43:13,839
Speaker 1: we're not playing, like what can we do to what

1003
00:43:13,880 --> 00:43:16,319
Speaker 1: can we do? Like give us some information? And we

1004
00:43:16,400 --> 00:43:18,600
Speaker 1: got nothing. I mean we didn't get it. I mean

1005
00:43:19,120 --> 00:43:21,280
Speaker 1: you have around that time and coachesn't give you no explanation.

1006
00:43:21,360 --> 00:43:22,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, now they do.

1007
00:43:22,320 --> 00:43:24,239
Speaker 3: You go in the office to sit down with a coach. Now,

1008
00:43:24,560 --> 00:43:25,919
Speaker 3: back then, coach, they take your ship.

1009
00:43:26,400 --> 00:43:27,680
Speaker 2: I want to I want to ask you about that though,

1010
00:43:27,680 --> 00:43:31,200
Speaker 2: because for all of the USA basketball is obviously not

1011
00:43:31,239 --> 00:43:33,880
Speaker 2: going anywhere. So every time they put a team together,

1012
00:43:34,680 --> 00:43:36,400
Speaker 2: there's a handful of people that don't play. That's a

1013
00:43:36,520 --> 00:43:39,600
Speaker 2: that's a long commitment, a summer commitment, y'all on that

1014
00:43:39,600 --> 00:43:42,920
Speaker 2: team because y'all are really good at basketball. Yes, but

1015
00:43:42,960 --> 00:43:45,480
Speaker 2: you're really good at basketball. You understand certain things, like

1016
00:43:46,160 --> 00:43:48,720
Speaker 2: your mentality has always been at every level to go dominate,

1017
00:43:48,800 --> 00:43:51,279
Speaker 2: and you don't play like what's your mental coming home, like,

1018
00:43:51,320 --> 00:43:53,320
Speaker 2: are you like I'm about to kill these dudes? Like

1019
00:43:53,600 --> 00:43:56,719
Speaker 2: what was because it happens every every every summer, right

1020
00:43:56,760 --> 00:43:59,640
Speaker 2: in the USA Basketball There's four guys Jason like Jason Tatum,

1021
00:43:59,800 --> 00:44:01,359
Speaker 2: just it just happens.

1022
00:44:01,080 --> 00:44:03,760
Speaker 1: Right, But it didn't. It didn't really like her confidence.

1023
00:44:03,800 --> 00:44:05,759
Speaker 1: It didn't hurt my comfort. You know what I'm saying.

1024
00:44:05,880 --> 00:44:06,960
Speaker 1: I knew what I can do. I'm like, if I

1025
00:44:06,960 --> 00:44:08,239
Speaker 1: was on the court, I know what I can do.

1026
00:44:08,719 --> 00:44:10,040
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, if I play, you know,

1027
00:44:10,120 --> 00:44:11,920
Speaker 1: five ten minutes, I know I can make a difference

1028
00:44:11,920 --> 00:44:15,319
Speaker 1: in the game one hundred percent. But it didn't hurt

1029
00:44:15,320 --> 00:44:17,600
Speaker 1: my confidence. When I went back to Phoenix and I

1030
00:44:17,640 --> 00:44:20,920
Speaker 1: took that motivation of staying in shape during the Olympics,

1031
00:44:21,080 --> 00:44:23,440
Speaker 1: and I just stayed in shape the whole summer and

1032
00:44:23,440 --> 00:44:26,160
Speaker 1: then took that you know, you know, being in top

1033
00:44:26,200 --> 00:44:28,400
Speaker 1: shape from the summer right into the season and I

1034
00:44:28,440 --> 00:44:29,840
Speaker 1: got off to a great start.

1035
00:44:31,480 --> 00:44:35,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, I honestly I look at both sides of it

1036
00:44:35,200 --> 00:44:37,920
Speaker 3: because I saw what Steve Kurr went through, and I

1037
00:44:38,000 --> 00:44:41,520
Speaker 3: understand that in the perfect world, you want to play everybody,

1038
00:44:42,000 --> 00:44:44,000
Speaker 3: but you can't, and you got to try to figure

1039
00:44:44,000 --> 00:44:46,400
Speaker 3: out how to play the best guys that's gonna mess together.

1040
00:44:46,440 --> 00:44:48,480
Speaker 3: It's not about the best individual guys. It's about the

1041
00:44:48,480 --> 00:44:50,479
Speaker 3: guys that's gonna mess together, the best, the five guys

1042
00:44:50,480 --> 00:44:51,839
Speaker 3: that you could put on the court that's gonna play

1043
00:44:51,880 --> 00:44:54,480
Speaker 3: against the play together the best. Do I think some

1044
00:44:54,520 --> 00:44:56,760
Speaker 3: of those young guys should have Absolutely, But if you're losing,

1045
00:44:56,760 --> 00:44:59,560
Speaker 3: you gotta make a change. Yeah. Yah, absolutely should have played. Absolutely,

1046
00:45:00,040 --> 00:45:01,759
Speaker 3: got to you gotta implement. You got to figure out

1047
00:45:01,760 --> 00:45:03,319
Speaker 3: way to implement them young guys. Maybe you don't play

1048
00:45:03,320 --> 00:45:05,080
Speaker 3: all five of them to figure it out. Try to

1049
00:45:05,120 --> 00:45:07,120
Speaker 3: figure out you figure out a way to these guys.

1050
00:45:07,120 --> 00:45:08,360
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. We talked about all the

1051
00:45:08,400 --> 00:45:10,919
Speaker 3: time being that guy. Devin Booker said, I'll be that guy.

1052
00:45:11,000 --> 00:45:13,640
Speaker 3: I'll take the defensive challenge and you know, set on

1053
00:45:13,760 --> 00:45:16,160
Speaker 3: offense for what I get open shots. However you can

1054
00:45:16,160 --> 00:45:17,600
Speaker 3: get on the court to help the team. I'm sure

1055
00:45:17,600 --> 00:45:19,239
Speaker 3: those young guys are willing to do that. There's no

1056
00:45:19,400 --> 00:45:22,360
Speaker 3: opportunity exactly. As a coach, it is a tough decision

1057
00:45:22,400 --> 00:45:23,200
Speaker 3: on who you're gonna play.

1058
00:45:23,280 --> 00:45:26,959
Speaker 2: I wouldn't want to coach that team ever, that'd be hard.

1059
00:45:27,160 --> 00:45:29,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, So you got so much talent. Everyone has egos

1060
00:45:29,440 --> 00:45:30,719
Speaker 1: and everyone knows they're great.

1061
00:45:30,480 --> 00:45:32,279
Speaker 2: And someone's not gonna play, and then someone's not.

1062
00:45:32,200 --> 00:45:34,800
Speaker 3: Gonna play, and the older guys feel entitled to some degree.

1063
00:45:35,040 --> 00:45:37,600
Speaker 3: Yeah for sure, since in entitlements and.

1064
00:45:37,560 --> 00:45:40,400
Speaker 1: Every person that's not playing, guys printing All Stars and

1065
00:45:40,440 --> 00:45:41,480
Speaker 1: all these champions.

1066
00:45:41,560 --> 00:45:43,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, for sure. You ain't gonna tell a what

1067
00:45:44,520 --> 00:45:46,279
Speaker 3: I don't want to hear that, but not playing well,

1068
00:45:47,080 --> 00:45:50,680
Speaker 3: Larry who you can't tell those guys that, kobemy don't

1069
00:45:50,680 --> 00:45:52,200
Speaker 3: want to hear that, Like we ain't sitting out like

1070
00:45:52,239 --> 00:45:52,839
Speaker 3: they don't hear that.

1071
00:45:52,880 --> 00:45:55,360
Speaker 2: You talked about Mellow in there, so Melo goes. I

1072
00:45:55,400 --> 00:45:57,319
Speaker 2: don't think Melo gets talked about nearly as not since

1073
00:45:57,320 --> 00:45:59,719
Speaker 2: he's retired, in my opinion, talk about him in New York?

1074
00:45:59,719 --> 00:46:01,200
Speaker 2: How will that? And what what do you I mean,

1075
00:46:01,239 --> 00:46:02,520
Speaker 2: just give me your Scotter report.

1076
00:46:03,160 --> 00:46:07,319
Speaker 1: You can't got him. There's an offensive juggernaut, right and

1077
00:46:07,360 --> 00:46:09,240
Speaker 1: plus you know he's gonna get him up. So anytime

1078
00:46:09,239 --> 00:46:17,000
Speaker 1: he got the ball, you at his mercy.

1079
00:46:16,000 --> 00:46:16,880
Speaker 2: Post.

1080
00:46:17,560 --> 00:46:19,640
Speaker 1: One thing about Mellow, he scored from all three levels

1081
00:46:20,480 --> 00:46:22,759
Speaker 1: and he took the end and he he I saw

1082
00:46:22,840 --> 00:46:26,600
Speaker 1: Mellow in high school, right, and the game he had

1083
00:46:26,600 --> 00:46:28,719
Speaker 1: a high school is a very similar game he had

1084
00:46:28,760 --> 00:46:33,560
Speaker 1: in the NBA, but just more polished and more sharp. Right,

1085
00:46:33,640 --> 00:46:36,000
Speaker 1: So offensively, you just gotta sit back and hope you

1086
00:46:36,040 --> 00:46:38,239
Speaker 1: contain mellow because because you can't, you can't stop him.

1087
00:46:38,440 --> 00:46:41,120
Speaker 3: You can't stop him spots.

1088
00:46:41,440 --> 00:46:43,880
Speaker 1: And he's six eight and he played bully ball and

1089
00:46:43,920 --> 00:46:46,359
Speaker 1: he from Baltimore, So your little rough around the edge

1090
00:46:46,400 --> 00:46:48,239
Speaker 1: is also you know what I'm saying. So all that

1091
00:46:48,320 --> 00:46:49,839
Speaker 1: you got, you gotta deal with all that.

1092
00:46:50,360 --> 00:46:51,600
Speaker 2: Her little rougher on red skut.

1093
00:46:51,760 --> 00:46:53,879
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, that shit worked

1094
00:46:53,880 --> 00:46:54,400
Speaker 3: perfect with you.

1095
00:46:55,120 --> 00:46:55,319
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1096
00:46:55,320 --> 00:46:58,360
Speaker 3: We had a good times you him Jr.

1097
00:46:58,760 --> 00:47:06,200
Speaker 1: Sharp Oh yeah, yea, all that yeah, And BD had

1098
00:47:06,200 --> 00:47:07,920
Speaker 1: a good time playing with BD because BD was a

1099
00:47:07,960 --> 00:47:10,160
Speaker 1: point guard. I always wanted to play with my prime

1100
00:47:10,680 --> 00:47:12,759
Speaker 1: because he'll pass first. He looked at you and ball

1101
00:47:12,800 --> 00:47:15,200
Speaker 1: over here, he was, so I'm catching the finishing, you

1102
00:47:15,200 --> 00:47:16,440
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. So it's a whole it was.

1103
00:47:16,480 --> 00:47:18,279
Speaker 1: It was fun to play with Bed also in New York.

1104
00:47:18,840 --> 00:47:19,560
Speaker 3: That's what's up.

1105
00:47:19,960 --> 00:47:22,680
Speaker 2: Talking about the NBA. Now, who's your team? You watch?

1106
00:47:23,800 --> 00:47:27,560
Speaker 1: Who you like players? What team and what players I'm watching?

1107
00:47:27,760 --> 00:47:29,960
Speaker 1: Obviously watched see my player for right. So the Heat,

1108
00:47:30,520 --> 00:47:35,560
Speaker 1: New York Phoenix are the three teams I watched the most.

1109
00:47:35,920 --> 00:47:39,080
Speaker 1: The players I'm watching right now, I would say I

1110
00:47:39,160 --> 00:47:42,319
Speaker 1: like watching Jalen Bronson play, right. I like watching this game.

1111
00:47:42,360 --> 00:47:43,879
Speaker 1: I like seeing how it works with him and Cat

1112
00:47:45,239 --> 00:47:48,240
Speaker 1: that's seen that two man game. Yeah, I do like watching.

1113
00:47:48,520 --> 00:47:53,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's fishing on the road or the flareback getting

1114
00:47:53,080 --> 00:47:53,720
Speaker 3: to the offensive.

1115
00:47:54,320 --> 00:47:55,920
Speaker 2: They started to find their groove to right now.

1116
00:47:55,880 --> 00:47:58,680
Speaker 1: They are they are, they are. I do like watching.

1117
00:47:59,040 --> 00:48:00,840
Speaker 1: You know, I want to see our morant continue to

1118
00:48:00,880 --> 00:48:01,719
Speaker 1: continue to play well.

1119
00:48:01,800 --> 00:48:01,960
Speaker 3: Right.

1120
00:48:02,280 --> 00:48:03,880
Speaker 1: I know you're out there, Memphis, so you are you

1121
00:48:03,920 --> 00:48:07,880
Speaker 1: see it all the time? Man man athletic, he got

1122
00:48:07,920 --> 00:48:12,640
Speaker 1: a game. I want to see Giannis develop a jump shot, right,

1123
00:48:12,680 --> 00:48:15,839
Speaker 1: That's what I'm waiting on him, because obviously his athleticism

1124
00:48:15,840 --> 00:48:18,200
Speaker 1: and strength to the basket is great, But if he

1125
00:48:18,280 --> 00:48:20,600
Speaker 1: really focused on that jump shot, more like shoot the

1126
00:48:20,600 --> 00:48:23,000
Speaker 1: thousand of summer, like East Spot, like get him up,

1127
00:48:23,040 --> 00:48:24,839
Speaker 1: just just take one summer just working on the jumper

1128
00:48:24,880 --> 00:48:28,719
Speaker 1: the entire summer. You know what I'm saying, all us, Yeah,

1129
00:48:28,760 --> 00:48:31,040
Speaker 1: that's what we wait too long? All us been waiting

1130
00:48:31,200 --> 00:48:31,799
Speaker 1: waiting too long.

1131
00:48:32,000 --> 00:48:34,840
Speaker 3: I think, as you know one thing is what you

1132
00:48:34,960 --> 00:48:38,960
Speaker 3: guys did, and the guys that I considered franchise players

1133
00:48:39,040 --> 00:48:42,640
Speaker 3: or max players, is they improved the level of everybody

1134
00:48:42,640 --> 00:48:45,240
Speaker 3: around them. So they never said like we don't have enough,

1135
00:48:45,640 --> 00:48:47,839
Speaker 3: like I'm going to get better. So that way, if

1136
00:48:47,880 --> 00:48:50,040
Speaker 3: I'm better than everybody around me, is going to be better.

1137
00:48:50,120 --> 00:48:53,760
Speaker 3: And as great as Jeanna's is, great player, great talent,

1138
00:48:54,719 --> 00:48:57,120
Speaker 3: he kind of didn't add that. And I think everybody

1139
00:48:57,200 --> 00:49:00,880
Speaker 3: we need that he's still young, wait for range and

1140
00:49:01,000 --> 00:49:02,640
Speaker 3: you know, being able to step it back, because all

1141
00:49:02,640 --> 00:49:04,279
Speaker 3: that's going to do is just help improve your game,

1142
00:49:04,320 --> 00:49:07,080
Speaker 3: give you longevity, you know what I'm saying, and just

1143
00:49:07,120 --> 00:49:08,840
Speaker 3: make you tough for the guard, because we know what

1144
00:49:08,880 --> 00:49:11,200
Speaker 3: athleticism is. You can get that motherfucker off the backboard,

1145
00:49:11,280 --> 00:49:13,840
Speaker 3: take three dribbles, and be coast to coasting donk like

1146
00:49:14,160 --> 00:49:16,439
Speaker 3: ship we ain't never seen before, you know what I'm saying.

1147
00:49:16,440 --> 00:49:18,000
Speaker 3: But when it gets in the half court game, you

1148
00:49:18,040 --> 00:49:19,840
Speaker 3: know what I'm saying, Can we go to you and

1149
00:49:19,880 --> 00:49:21,520
Speaker 3: down the stretch and get a bucket and down the stretch.

1150
00:49:21,560 --> 00:49:23,560
Speaker 3: Most of the time they going to Dame, you know

1151
00:49:23,600 --> 00:49:26,720
Speaker 3: what I'm saying, or theyre going to Middleton. What I'm saying, honest,

1152
00:49:26,760 --> 00:49:28,400
Speaker 3: is not the guy that they go to down the stretch.

1153
00:49:28,600 --> 00:49:31,440
Speaker 3: They get a bucket. But he can change that. That's

1154
00:49:31,520 --> 00:49:32,239
Speaker 3: up to him, you know what.

1155
00:49:32,200 --> 00:49:35,760
Speaker 2: I'm Yeah, it's a it's a frustrating thing to me obviously,

1156
00:49:36,040 --> 00:49:38,560
Speaker 2: Like shooting. You touched on it, like to me, shooting

1157
00:49:38,560 --> 00:49:40,560
Speaker 2: is something that you can get better at, right like

1158
00:49:40,600 --> 00:49:45,080
Speaker 2: you did. Yeah, but you but you simple, You simplify

1159
00:49:45,239 --> 00:49:48,600
Speaker 2: things like you can't you can get better at shooting.

1160
00:49:48,640 --> 00:49:50,520
Speaker 2: You can't get taller, you can't get you can get

1161
00:49:50,600 --> 00:49:52,880
Speaker 2: somewhat more athletic. You can get better at ball handling shooting.

1162
00:49:52,920 --> 00:49:54,040
Speaker 2: Those are two things you can get better at for

1163
00:49:54,800 --> 00:49:56,960
Speaker 2: That's all just reputations to getting in the grinding this

1164
00:49:57,360 --> 00:49:57,800
Speaker 2: I don't.

1165
00:49:57,600 --> 00:49:58,920
Speaker 3: Know, you know better than most of it.

1166
00:49:59,120 --> 00:49:59,880
Speaker 2: You gotta get better at it.

1167
00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:02,920
Speaker 3: Man, shoot the sun coming, you know.

1168
00:50:03,560 --> 00:50:05,000
Speaker 2: And I mean this though, like when I showed up

1169
00:50:05,000 --> 00:50:06,400
Speaker 2: at Florida, I really want a shoot her. He'll tell

1170
00:50:06,440 --> 00:50:08,480
Speaker 2: you I want a shooter shooter. But it's like I

1171
00:50:08,520 --> 00:50:11,200
Speaker 2: got I got drafted in Orlando, and I looked at

1172
00:50:11,200 --> 00:50:12,879
Speaker 2: my right and my left. I got teammate and Grant

1173
00:50:12,960 --> 00:50:15,040
Speaker 2: hill well ship the state I did at Florida They're

1174
00:50:15,080 --> 00:50:17,000
Speaker 2: way better than that, you know what I mean, like

1175
00:50:17,000 --> 00:50:19,080
Speaker 2: getting downhill being a playmaker, like that was my ship,

1176
00:50:19,560 --> 00:50:22,120
Speaker 2: right and I got there. I'm like, yo, hold up, okay,

1177
00:50:22,440 --> 00:50:24,120
Speaker 2: I gotta figure something out because I ain't gonna be

1178
00:50:24,120 --> 00:50:25,680
Speaker 2: all to play. Those gets are better than me, right.

1179
00:50:26,000 --> 00:50:27,440
Speaker 2: So he's like, that's why I just that's why I

1180
00:50:27,520 --> 00:50:29,680
Speaker 2: learned that that grind of Hey, I gotta turned myself it.

1181
00:50:29,680 --> 00:50:31,200
Speaker 2: I gotta be great at something. And you still got

1182
00:50:31,280 --> 00:50:32,000
Speaker 2: rooked out the year.

1183
00:50:34,640 --> 00:50:36,560
Speaker 4: Did right?

1184
00:50:37,520 --> 00:50:37,640
Speaker 3: Right?

1185
00:50:37,760 --> 00:50:39,839
Speaker 2: Who wins the East this year? Who wins the West?

1186
00:50:41,320 --> 00:50:42,319
Speaker 3: The East this year?

1187
00:50:43,120 --> 00:50:48,200
Speaker 1: I think it's gonna be between two teams, the Knicks

1188
00:50:48,239 --> 00:50:52,640
Speaker 1: and the Celtics. I think those two teams are going

1189
00:50:52,719 --> 00:50:54,160
Speaker 1: to have to battle to the east. Right, you don't

1190
00:50:54,160 --> 00:50:56,960
Speaker 1: think Orlando's for real? I do think so, but not

1191
00:50:57,120 --> 00:51:01,239
Speaker 1: quite check right, So depends on to toss up. For me,

1192
00:51:01,320 --> 00:51:03,600
Speaker 1: I'm being biased. I said that's gonna be the you know,

1193
00:51:03,800 --> 00:51:06,400
Speaker 1: but it's gonna be a toss up in the West.

1194
00:51:08,680 --> 00:51:09,640
Speaker 1: In the West.

1195
00:51:11,880 --> 00:51:12,160
Speaker 3: West.

1196
00:51:13,200 --> 00:51:15,879
Speaker 2: It is tight in the West, grimy, grizz.

1197
00:51:17,080 --> 00:51:17,520
Speaker 3: It's tough.

1198
00:51:17,600 --> 00:51:18,840
Speaker 1: And to be honest with you, I don't watch a

1199
00:51:18,880 --> 00:51:20,959
Speaker 1: lot of the West West Coast games. I'm only sleep

1200
00:51:21,000 --> 00:51:23,080
Speaker 1: by that time, got old?

1201
00:51:23,960 --> 00:51:25,520
Speaker 2: Why back I was.

1202
00:51:25,600 --> 00:51:27,760
Speaker 3: I'm surprised you. Houston up there at the time, Houston

1203
00:51:27,800 --> 00:51:30,040
Speaker 3: looking good, used to looking good.

1204
00:51:31,239 --> 00:51:35,359
Speaker 2: Memphis gonna be hell, Memphis gonna be hell, Memphis Hell.

1205
00:51:35,360 --> 00:51:38,280
Speaker 2: They play eleven man rotation, which is sometimes gets frustrated.

1206
00:51:38,280 --> 00:51:41,080
Speaker 2: But for health and long and then getting it once

1207
00:51:41,080 --> 00:51:42,600
Speaker 2: you get the playoffs. You got healthy bodies.

1208
00:51:42,640 --> 00:51:45,359
Speaker 3: You can die that what they did when they were healthy. Man,

1209
00:51:46,360 --> 00:51:47,400
Speaker 3: we see what they're capable of.

1210
00:51:47,680 --> 00:51:50,560
Speaker 2: Good. You know that they take the game too.

1211
00:51:52,000 --> 00:51:54,319
Speaker 3: He does, she does. You don't believe in Cleveland over

1212
00:51:54,320 --> 00:51:55,720
Speaker 3: there in the East. I like Cleveland.

1213
00:51:56,120 --> 00:51:56,439
Speaker 2: I don't.

1214
00:51:56,480 --> 00:51:58,400
Speaker 3: I don't really, I don't really believe in them like that.

1215
00:51:59,480 --> 00:52:02,800
Speaker 2: You know, Hey, talk to people at home. Know the

1216
00:52:02,800 --> 00:52:04,640
Speaker 2: difference in the regular season in the playoffs, because when

1217
00:52:04,640 --> 00:52:06,719
Speaker 2: you say that, like Cleveland's rolling right now.

1218
00:52:07,480 --> 00:52:09,719
Speaker 1: It's a different game. It's a different game. We're studying now,

1219
00:52:09,760 --> 00:52:12,200
Speaker 1: we're students of the game in playoffs. I'm watching you,

1220
00:52:12,400 --> 00:52:15,840
Speaker 1: I'm breaking down my player. I'm following I'm following his

1221
00:52:16,200 --> 00:52:18,279
Speaker 1: go to moves right hand, left hand, over the right,

1222
00:52:18,320 --> 00:52:21,840
Speaker 1: soul left, whatever, whatever moves you do. I'm studying that

1223
00:52:21,960 --> 00:52:24,960
Speaker 1: and taking all that away right. And that's why that's

1224
00:52:24,960 --> 00:52:26,920
Speaker 1: why I said, is in the playoffs, you know, you

1225
00:52:27,040 --> 00:52:30,160
Speaker 1: go from being a star to a superstar levels in there, right,

1226
00:52:30,320 --> 00:52:32,880
Speaker 1: Because if you're able to take away all of that

1227
00:52:33,040 --> 00:52:36,920
Speaker 1: and still be great level, then you're on a different level. Wore,

1228
00:52:36,960 --> 00:52:38,800
Speaker 1: You're so good what you do, you can't take it.

1229
00:52:38,920 --> 00:52:44,360
Speaker 1: You can't take it away. Exactly what you do, you

1230
00:52:44,360 --> 00:52:47,720
Speaker 1: can do about it, right, stay there and pray exactly exactly.

1231
00:52:47,800 --> 00:52:50,080
Speaker 2: It's gonna be interesting. This is gonna be fun this year.

1232
00:52:51,400 --> 00:52:55,399
Speaker 3: Before I want to tap into physically how you look. Yeah,

1233
00:52:55,600 --> 00:53:02,160
Speaker 3: you look a damn amazing Listen, man, Man that's comfortable

1234
00:53:02,160 --> 00:53:02,520
Speaker 3: with my skin?

1235
00:53:02,600 --> 00:53:04,560
Speaker 2: So I can tell another man went in the same

1236
00:53:04,640 --> 00:53:08,680
Speaker 2: outfit today, Yeah, the same.

1237
00:53:10,480 --> 00:53:14,040
Speaker 3: Listen though, Like obviously I know you're on a farm. Yeah,

1238
00:53:14,440 --> 00:53:16,200
Speaker 3: is that like something where you know what I'm saying,

1239
00:53:16,239 --> 00:53:19,239
Speaker 3: because part of training and living clean lifestyle is eating

1240
00:53:19,320 --> 00:53:21,680
Speaker 3: right for sure, eating from the land off your farm.

1241
00:53:21,840 --> 00:53:24,040
Speaker 3: And because I know you talked about your diet and

1242
00:53:24,120 --> 00:53:26,160
Speaker 3: you're working on different things like that, So explaining the

1243
00:53:26,200 --> 00:53:28,280
Speaker 3: farm life to me, like, is that part of your dieting?

1244
00:53:28,840 --> 00:53:31,759
Speaker 1: Yeah for sure? So so so the farm in New York,

1245
00:53:32,080 --> 00:53:34,560
Speaker 1: it's a cattle farm. So, so I eat only clean

1246
00:53:34,680 --> 00:53:40,080
Speaker 1: and pasteurized cattle, no preservatives, and so I have like

1247
00:53:40,120 --> 00:53:42,360
Speaker 1: a clean eating eating diet. Right, food and wine is

1248
00:53:42,400 --> 00:53:48,400
Speaker 1: kind of mine, you know, ship food and that and

1249
00:53:48,560 --> 00:53:51,320
Speaker 1: so mixed that with with training and keeping yourself in shape.

1250
00:53:51,719 --> 00:53:54,120
Speaker 1: That's that's that's the formula. That's what I've been doing.

1251
00:53:54,200 --> 00:53:56,560
Speaker 2: By the way, cattle farm in New York sounds nuts.

1252
00:53:56,920 --> 00:53:58,799
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I'm sure cattle farm in New York.

1253
00:53:59,000 --> 00:54:01,759
Speaker 3: Spit the grip all your old motherfuckers at home that

1254
00:54:01,800 --> 00:54:06,600
Speaker 3: got to get dressed in the dog. No excuse. Yeah,

1255
00:54:06,680 --> 00:54:08,359
Speaker 3: cut your lights off and put your clothes on. It's

1256
00:54:08,360 --> 00:54:11,719
Speaker 3: no excuse. Get up every guy that morning, hit the gym,

1257
00:54:11,920 --> 00:54:14,480
Speaker 3: drink while that work out. There's no excuse. It's funny.

1258
00:54:15,040 --> 00:54:17,120
Speaker 3: Mothers get getting dressed the dog because youn't want to

1259
00:54:17,120 --> 00:54:19,080
Speaker 3: see how you really look. My wife got to look

1260
00:54:19,080 --> 00:54:23,040
Speaker 3: at your ass, right right. I'm just saying, it's no excuse.

1261
00:54:23,840 --> 00:54:26,080
Speaker 3: It's true, man, it's true. It's true. You got time

1262
00:54:26,120 --> 00:54:28,719
Speaker 3: on your hands, work out, eat good, and take it

1263
00:54:28,760 --> 00:54:30,680
Speaker 3: easy and give up that bill. Ain't that right? Killer.

1264
00:54:31,080 --> 00:54:33,719
Speaker 3: I can't do that. I can't do that. I can't

1265
00:54:33,800 --> 00:54:35,239
Speaker 3: do that to you.

1266
00:54:35,560 --> 00:54:37,080
Speaker 2: I like a little veno. But I can't give up

1267
00:54:37,120 --> 00:54:37,640
Speaker 2: the beer nothing.

1268
00:54:38,440 --> 00:54:40,759
Speaker 3: So but I didn't know that because obviously we talked

1269
00:54:40,760 --> 00:54:42,320
Speaker 3: about you got your meal plan and everything. But I

1270
00:54:42,480 --> 00:54:43,920
Speaker 3: just put too in two together because you do have

1271
00:54:44,000 --> 00:54:45,920
Speaker 3: a farm, so it would make more sense just to

1272
00:54:45,960 --> 00:54:47,920
Speaker 3: eat from the land off your farm. Exactly like that,

1273
00:54:48,080 --> 00:54:49,520
Speaker 3: exactly right, exactly right.

1274
00:54:49,719 --> 00:54:51,360
Speaker 2: Hey. One thing that we didn't touch on when you

1275
00:54:51,480 --> 00:54:53,719
Speaker 2: got done, you go over to Israel and play, Yeah,

1276
00:54:54,120 --> 00:54:55,759
Speaker 2: talk about that? Was that? Was that because you just

1277
00:54:55,840 --> 00:54:57,560
Speaker 2: wanted to love the game. You want to keep playing something.

1278
00:54:57,560 --> 00:54:58,960
Speaker 2: You want to do something different than life, Like we're

1279
00:54:58,960 --> 00:54:59,759
Speaker 2: talked talking about that.

1280
00:55:00,200 --> 00:55:02,400
Speaker 3: When you own the team, yeah, so you have the

1281
00:55:02,440 --> 00:55:05,319
Speaker 3: CBA work with that. How you make that happen?

1282
00:55:06,080 --> 00:55:08,320
Speaker 2: We're gonna pay. We're gonna pay a mile started the

1283
00:55:08,400 --> 00:55:10,680
Speaker 2: most this year. Yeah, it was, it was.

1284
00:55:11,120 --> 00:55:12,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was kind of a threefold thing. Right. So

1285
00:55:13,080 --> 00:55:13,719
Speaker 3: I owned the team.

1286
00:55:14,520 --> 00:55:17,200
Speaker 1: I bought the team back in twenty twelve, and then

1287
00:55:17,239 --> 00:55:20,000
Speaker 1: I ended up moving to Israel twenty fifteen and playing

1288
00:55:20,040 --> 00:55:22,640
Speaker 1: for the team. Right, But I put away my shares

1289
00:55:22,760 --> 00:55:25,600
Speaker 1: for so I can play, Okay, So that's how I am,

1290
00:55:26,160 --> 00:55:27,759
Speaker 1: That's how I kind of I made that happen. And

1291
00:55:27,840 --> 00:55:29,839
Speaker 1: then also I wanted to continue to play. I don't

1292
00:55:29,880 --> 00:55:32,200
Speaker 1: want to be a player toward my last NBA careers,

1293
00:55:32,200 --> 00:55:33,399
Speaker 1: going from team to team to team.

1294
00:55:33,640 --> 00:55:34,120
Speaker 3: Yeah right.

1295
00:55:34,160 --> 00:55:36,480
Speaker 1: I didn't want to throw that bouncing around. My children

1296
00:55:36,520 --> 00:55:39,120
Speaker 1: were young. So I'm like, I'm home in Miami. This

1297
00:55:39,239 --> 00:55:40,920
Speaker 1: is where I'm at, It's where I'm staying. It's my

1298
00:55:41,000 --> 00:55:43,840
Speaker 1: last team, I'm playing for the NBA. And so I

1299
00:55:43,920 --> 00:55:46,400
Speaker 1: went overseas for one to continue to play. So I

1300
00:55:46,440 --> 00:55:47,960
Speaker 1: felt like I still had a lot left in the tank.

1301
00:55:48,600 --> 00:55:50,600
Speaker 1: And then for two, I can go and learn, So

1302
00:55:50,680 --> 00:55:52,440
Speaker 1: I went. So I went to Israel to play and

1303
00:55:52,520 --> 00:55:54,960
Speaker 1: to learn, and so I did both.

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00:55:55,120 --> 00:55:55,560
Speaker 3: I learned.

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00:55:55,600 --> 00:55:58,560
Speaker 1: I wake up in the morning, I go learn from

1306
00:55:58,640 --> 00:56:02,000
Speaker 1: like six am to nine. Then I go to the gym,

1307
00:56:02,040 --> 00:56:04,520
Speaker 1: get a little work out there before practice. I practice

1308
00:56:04,840 --> 00:56:06,759
Speaker 1: and then go back. I shout out the gym and

1309
00:56:06,760 --> 00:56:08,960
Speaker 1: then go back to learn in the evenings, and then

1310
00:56:09,000 --> 00:56:10,680
Speaker 1: I do a review at night before I go to bed.

1311
00:56:11,320 --> 00:56:13,160
Speaker 1: And then I was every day, and then we had games.

1312
00:56:13,200 --> 00:56:15,200
Speaker 1: We traveled, and the beautiful thing about playing overseas in

1313
00:56:15,280 --> 00:56:17,440
Speaker 1: Israel was I was able to I was able to

1314
00:56:17,440 --> 00:56:20,520
Speaker 1: see the world. So we'll travel to Spain, We'll travel

1315
00:56:20,600 --> 00:56:23,560
Speaker 1: to Greece, We'll travel to Italy, We'll travel. You know

1316
00:56:23,600 --> 00:56:25,879
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. And I'm seeing the world and I'm

1317
00:56:25,920 --> 00:56:26,919
Speaker 1: playing and I'm learning.

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00:56:27,000 --> 00:56:34,400
Speaker 3: I'm like, this is what I saw depressing motherfucker Brola overseas.

1319
00:56:34,440 --> 00:56:34,840
Speaker 3: You ain't do that.

1320
00:56:35,000 --> 00:56:35,799
Speaker 2: No, And I didn't learn.

1321
00:56:36,880 --> 00:56:39,840
Speaker 3: No. But honestly, honestly, the faith part, you know what

1322
00:56:39,840 --> 00:56:43,560
Speaker 3: I'm saying, tapping into the faith and the Black Israelites

1323
00:56:43,600 --> 00:56:46,040
Speaker 3: and the different things like that, Like I read that

1324
00:56:46,120 --> 00:56:48,000
Speaker 3: that came from your mom. Yeah, put you on that,

1325
00:56:48,080 --> 00:56:49,799
Speaker 3: and then from that point on you kind of ran

1326
00:56:49,840 --> 00:56:51,920
Speaker 3: with it and took it upoint yourself to educate yourself

1327
00:56:51,960 --> 00:56:53,759
Speaker 3: on that. Yeah, so I got a commite on that.

1328
00:56:53,880 --> 00:56:56,240
Speaker 3: But on that journey, what did you find out about yourself?

1329
00:56:56,680 --> 00:56:58,600
Speaker 1: It was it was definitely a journey because I was

1330
00:56:58,680 --> 00:57:02,080
Speaker 1: raised Christian, and my mom was like, well, we are

1331
00:57:02,200 --> 00:57:04,320
Speaker 1: from the descendants of the children of Israel, and we

1332
00:57:04,400 --> 00:57:06,920
Speaker 1: have to learn about the laws of Moses. So I said,

1333
00:57:06,960 --> 00:57:08,840
Speaker 1: all right, what I sound that sounds about right? And

1334
00:57:08,920 --> 00:57:10,600
Speaker 1: so I started learning about the Laws of Moses. And

1335
00:57:10,680 --> 00:57:13,359
Speaker 1: I started trying to find groups that was also learned

1336
00:57:13,360 --> 00:57:15,759
Speaker 1: the same thing. And so I ended up gravitating to

1337
00:57:15,920 --> 00:57:18,439
Speaker 1: like the Israelite groups, which were also kind of learned

1338
00:57:18,480 --> 00:57:21,560
Speaker 1: the same thing. And then I realized that wasn't really

1339
00:57:21,640 --> 00:57:24,840
Speaker 1: my space. I wanted something that wasn't as aggressive. And

1340
00:57:24,920 --> 00:57:26,560
Speaker 1: then I met a rabbi when I was in New

1341
00:57:26,680 --> 00:57:29,040
Speaker 1: York and he started teaching me about the Tora, and

1342
00:57:29,160 --> 00:57:33,000
Speaker 1: the tour was means basically instructions. So I was able

1343
00:57:33,000 --> 00:57:36,560
Speaker 1: to learn the Laws of Moses that way. And that's

1344
00:57:36,600 --> 00:57:38,920
Speaker 1: how I kind of like went into that space with

1345
00:57:39,120 --> 00:57:41,080
Speaker 1: with with with no regrets.

1346
00:57:41,520 --> 00:57:47,000
Speaker 3: Who needs college, manege when you got religion and faith?

1347
00:57:47,800 --> 00:57:49,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, I just went back to school. I went back

1348
00:57:49,640 --> 00:57:51,120
Speaker 1: to college. I want to got my NBA from the

1349
00:57:51,280 --> 00:57:51,840
Speaker 1: rest of Miami.

1350
00:57:52,480 --> 00:57:55,240
Speaker 2: God damn, Hey, how many hours you got in your day?

1351
00:57:55,680 --> 00:58:00,720
Speaker 1: Listen you feel me? It's funny. Because of program happened.

1352
00:58:00,720 --> 00:58:03,600
Speaker 1: I was actual overseas in Israel, and it was online.

1353
00:58:03,680 --> 00:58:06,560
Speaker 1: It was online because of COVID. I was able to

1354
00:58:06,680 --> 00:58:10,160
Speaker 1: learn for the first year and a half online well

1355
00:58:10,280 --> 00:58:12,880
Speaker 1: two years basically online, and then COVID ended. Then I

1356
00:58:12,920 --> 00:58:15,400
Speaker 1: had to go to campus, but I was retired. I

1357
00:58:15,520 --> 00:58:16,800
Speaker 1: was like, I had to have plenty of time to

1358
00:58:16,920 --> 00:58:18,400
Speaker 1: just you know what, I'm saying, so I took advantage

1359
00:58:18,400 --> 00:58:18,640
Speaker 1: of him.

1360
00:58:18,960 --> 00:58:21,120
Speaker 3: That's beautiful, that's real.

1361
00:58:21,600 --> 00:58:22,240
Speaker 2: That's beautiful.

1362
00:58:22,360 --> 00:58:24,960
Speaker 3: That's beautiful to take that time and after you retired

1363
00:58:25,040 --> 00:58:27,280
Speaker 3: and made millions of dollars. But it can still could

1364
00:58:27,440 --> 00:58:30,320
Speaker 3: educate yourself. You can still grow mentally and emotionally and

1365
00:58:30,360 --> 00:58:35,600
Speaker 3: all that stuff and physically all up. People get people

1366
00:58:35,600 --> 00:58:37,400
Speaker 3: get content. Yeah, I can never get content, man, I

1367
00:58:37,400 --> 00:58:38,240
Speaker 3: can never get content.

1368
00:58:38,880 --> 00:58:40,840
Speaker 2: I don't know. I'm kind of frustrated where I did

1369
00:58:40,920 --> 00:58:41,520
Speaker 2: my life right now.

1370
00:58:43,200 --> 00:58:46,320
Speaker 3: You know, you're good. You are good. You got up

1371
00:58:46,480 --> 00:58:49,080
Speaker 3: now you're good. Bro, You're all good. Man, It's all good.

1372
00:58:49,480 --> 00:58:49,840
Speaker 2: All you do.

1373
00:58:50,040 --> 00:58:52,760
Speaker 3: And what I've gathered is like the ambition and the

1374
00:58:52,840 --> 00:58:54,760
Speaker 3: grind and the drift that you had in sports. You

1375
00:58:54,880 --> 00:58:57,640
Speaker 3: just applied it somewhere. That's it. That's that's exactly right.

1376
00:58:57,720 --> 00:59:00,919
Speaker 3: You just you applied it in somewhere ambition to learn,

1377
00:59:01,120 --> 00:59:03,280
Speaker 3: just like you wanted to learn basketball. You ambition to

1378
00:59:03,360 --> 00:59:05,280
Speaker 3: learn your faith and learn where you came from. You

1379
00:59:05,400 --> 00:59:07,920
Speaker 3: know what I'm saying, a lot of us can learn

1380
00:59:07,920 --> 00:59:10,439
Speaker 3: from you today. I think I could definitely learn something

1381
00:59:10,440 --> 00:59:12,120
Speaker 3: from you today. You know what I'm saying, honestly, me,

1382
00:59:12,640 --> 00:59:14,920
Speaker 3: me being the person that I am and being so driven.

1383
00:59:14,960 --> 00:59:16,600
Speaker 3: There's certain things that I've been wanting to tap into

1384
00:59:16,640 --> 00:59:18,280
Speaker 3: and I just haven't gotten the opportunity at a time.

1385
00:59:18,360 --> 00:59:20,480
Speaker 3: So call me out to day stated, I ain't gonna

1386
00:59:20,760 --> 00:59:23,680
Speaker 3: call me call me out today. I ain't going back

1387
00:59:23,680 --> 00:59:28,400
Speaker 3: to school though. That's what I ain't doing. I was

1388
00:59:28,440 --> 00:59:30,200
Speaker 3: around the high school too, leagues, so I get a chance.

1389
00:59:31,880 --> 00:59:32,760
Speaker 2: He never went to school.

1390
00:59:34,560 --> 00:59:37,880
Speaker 3: He showed up on campus. I was ship. I was

1391
00:59:37,920 --> 00:59:41,200
Speaker 3: always next to the person whose paper I could look on. Yeah,

1392
00:59:43,000 --> 00:59:43,560
Speaker 3: he never he.

1393
00:59:43,640 --> 00:59:44,440
Speaker 2: Never went to school.

1394
00:59:44,760 --> 00:59:45,480
Speaker 3: He showed up.

1395
00:59:45,920 --> 00:59:48,040
Speaker 2: He's played for a school. That's all. He played for

1396
00:59:48,080 --> 00:59:50,200
Speaker 2: a school. Hey, I don't want to transition that because

1397
00:59:50,200 --> 00:59:52,000
Speaker 2: I like this. But we got a new segment out here.

1398
00:59:52,000 --> 00:59:55,160
Speaker 2: We're going to quizz you too, Okay, to quiz this.

1399
00:59:55,760 --> 00:59:57,960
Speaker 2: This new segment is brought to you by New Balance.

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00:59:58,320 --> 01:00:00,360
Speaker 2: Were gonna play a game, okay. I we'll give you

1401
01:00:00,360 --> 01:00:01,960
Speaker 2: some hints. You all will tell me what player this is.

1402
01:00:02,200 --> 01:00:03,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm in it too, you too?

1403
01:00:03,840 --> 01:00:08,120
Speaker 2: Both born in Washington, the state, not d C. Okay.

1404
01:00:10,200 --> 01:00:12,880
Speaker 2: He guest starred an episode of Kirby Buckets in twenty sixteen.

1405
01:00:13,080 --> 01:00:15,360
Speaker 2: I don't know Kirby Bucket urty buckets and talking about it.

1406
01:00:15,680 --> 01:00:19,640
Speaker 2: That is all right. His first love was baseball, and

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01:00:19,720 --> 01:00:21,040
Speaker 2: he was drafted thirteenth overall.

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01:00:21,240 --> 01:00:21,760
Speaker 3: You got a.

1409
01:00:23,560 --> 01:00:24,880
Speaker 2: List of players over here on your right.

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01:00:24,880 --> 01:00:26,840
Speaker 3: Who is that thirteenth pick?

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01:00:28,520 --> 01:00:35,320
Speaker 2: Uh? Yeah that yeah, there you go.

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01:00:35,440 --> 01:00:49,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's okay. I need to sixteen, got you, coach?

1413
01:00:50,640 --> 01:00:52,880
Speaker 3: I know Zach Devin was a baseball player though his first.

1414
01:00:52,760 --> 01:00:54,960
Speaker 2: Love was baseball. I didn't even Wow, we're all learning

1415
01:00:55,000 --> 01:00:57,440
Speaker 2: on here, coach, we're all learning, no clue, we're all

1416
01:00:57,520 --> 01:00:58,080
Speaker 2: learning out here.

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01:00:58,760 --> 01:01:01,760
Speaker 3: Since we talk about Zack Lavigne, to me is probably

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01:01:01,840 --> 01:01:04,400
Speaker 3: one of the obviously can't get it going as a

1419
01:01:04,440 --> 01:01:06,520
Speaker 3: team overall in Chicago, but he's probably one of the

1420
01:01:06,560 --> 01:01:10,000
Speaker 3: more talented guys in the NBA. Athleticism being able to

1421
01:01:10,040 --> 01:01:12,240
Speaker 3: score the basket, shoots a ball, yeah, being able to

1422
01:01:12,280 --> 01:01:13,720
Speaker 3: get Like you said, we talked about guys that can

1423
01:01:13,720 --> 01:01:15,919
Speaker 3: score from all three levels. He can get finished over top.

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01:01:16,080 --> 01:01:17,560
Speaker 3: Talk about what he did in the dunk contest. We

1425
01:01:17,640 --> 01:01:19,320
Speaker 3: know if athletic is hell, he can shoot the ball.

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01:01:19,440 --> 01:01:21,680
Speaker 3: So absolutely like he's one of the guys who obviously

1427
01:01:21,760 --> 01:01:23,320
Speaker 3: we don't know how that's gonna pan out in Chicago,

1428
01:01:23,400 --> 01:01:25,880
Speaker 3: but he's talented as hell. Now you know what I'm saying.

1429
01:01:26,160 --> 01:01:29,760
Speaker 3: You was in the duck contest, like like, I don't

1430
01:01:30,200 --> 01:01:31,840
Speaker 3: didn't he win mail from the free Yeah?

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01:01:31,880 --> 01:01:34,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, you're a different athlete than I was. He Yeah,

1432
01:01:34,200 --> 01:01:36,160
Speaker 1: he's a different level for sure.

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01:01:36,560 --> 01:01:38,560
Speaker 3: When the lights on the dut contest, man, are you

1434
01:01:39,160 --> 01:01:41,200
Speaker 3: like going over the things in your head? You practice

1435
01:01:41,240 --> 01:01:42,720
Speaker 3: these dunks? You just go out there and doing what

1436
01:01:42,840 --> 01:01:44,000
Speaker 3: ship you've been doing your whole life.

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01:01:44,080 --> 01:01:45,920
Speaker 1: Well, some of it you've probably done before, but then

1438
01:01:46,000 --> 01:01:47,600
Speaker 1: some of it's like a live because you want to

1439
01:01:47,640 --> 01:01:50,160
Speaker 1: try something new and then the adrenalin kick in and

1440
01:01:50,240 --> 01:01:52,560
Speaker 1: then you pull it off. But yeah, I mean for Zack,

1441
01:01:52,600 --> 01:01:54,280
Speaker 1: he on a different level. To jump the dunk from

1442
01:01:54,320 --> 01:01:56,520
Speaker 1: the free throw line to windmill. I could never do that.

1443
01:01:56,640 --> 01:01:58,160
Speaker 3: He was. He's on a total different level.

1444
01:01:58,320 --> 01:02:00,000
Speaker 2: When you know those dunk contests, your mind is different

1445
01:02:00,080 --> 01:02:01,600
Speaker 2: it because when I was in it, it was just

1446
01:02:02,000 --> 01:02:04,080
Speaker 2: when I want to Florida Dunk Contest at the University

1447
01:02:04,080 --> 01:02:10,160
Speaker 2: of Florida, I did ad libs. Were gonna put that

1448
01:02:10,200 --> 01:02:11,480
Speaker 2: post up there, show them how I did it.

1449
01:02:11,560 --> 01:02:14,560
Speaker 3: But me, hey, you can cut the clip after we

1450
01:02:14,640 --> 01:02:17,120
Speaker 3: finished talking about that. Don't even film.

1451
01:02:17,520 --> 01:02:20,160
Speaker 2: Shout out to my guys at New Balance, they are

1452
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Speaker 2: definitely making waves right now. These two two ways are

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Speaker 2: of course there's the heavy low for the quickest players

1455
01:02:30,800 --> 01:02:34,280
Speaker 2: who act on instinct. And we cannot forget the fresh

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Speaker 2: basketball and check them out. Hey, Also, before we get

1459
01:02:46,400 --> 01:02:47,680
Speaker 2: you out of here, because we get we want to

1460
01:02:47,680 --> 01:02:49,720
Speaker 2: do some more stuff. We want some fan questions. Okay,

1461
01:02:49,880 --> 01:02:52,760
Speaker 2: we love giving the fans the questions, UD prep them

1462
01:02:52,800 --> 01:02:53,479
Speaker 2: on the fan questions.

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01:02:53,520 --> 01:02:56,840
Speaker 3: Though, please listen, man, do not be dming us playing

1464
01:02:56,880 --> 01:02:59,360
Speaker 3: it and talking to us about the questions and the answers.

1465
01:03:00,080 --> 01:03:02,200
Speaker 3: We ask the questions that are given to us. He

1466
01:03:02,320 --> 01:03:04,400
Speaker 3: only gives the answers that are in his head. Not

1467
01:03:04,600 --> 01:03:06,960
Speaker 3: call us, text us or email us with that bullshit.

1468
01:03:07,160 --> 01:03:09,720
Speaker 3: We got better things to do. Ask the man the question.

1469
01:03:10,040 --> 01:03:11,960
Speaker 3: They feel like they got something to say. This is good.

1470
01:03:12,120 --> 01:03:13,480
Speaker 2: This is good because you had them both on your

1471
01:03:13,520 --> 01:03:16,280
Speaker 2: mount rushmore. It's tough for KG or Tim Duncan.

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Speaker 3: Oh ooh, it was tough for KG or Tim Duncan.

1473
01:03:22,120 --> 01:03:30,840
Speaker 3: Woo Wow, you know what woo. Probably I was I

1474
01:03:30,880 --> 01:03:32,240
Speaker 3: would say, I would say.

1475
01:03:32,360 --> 01:03:33,680
Speaker 2: Now before you said this, though, I want to tell

1476
01:03:33,680 --> 01:03:35,800
Speaker 2: people when he says one of these names, it doesn't

1477
01:03:35,800 --> 01:03:38,960
Speaker 2: mean the other one's not good, all right, got were

1478
01:03:38,960 --> 01:03:40,840
Speaker 2: talking about him Mount Rushmore so his opinions.

1479
01:03:41,640 --> 01:03:43,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, they both, they both they both were great.

1480
01:03:43,520 --> 01:03:45,640
Speaker 2: Players them your Mount Rushmore. So you already gave him

1481
01:03:45,640 --> 01:03:46,080
Speaker 2: the flowers.

1482
01:03:46,320 --> 01:03:49,840
Speaker 1: I think I think Tim Duncan was tougher to me

1483
01:03:50,040 --> 01:03:53,960
Speaker 1: because the numbers he put up were like quiet and

1484
01:03:54,040 --> 01:03:55,840
Speaker 1: you never and you never know on to after the game.

1485
01:03:56,840 --> 01:04:01,560
Speaker 1: It's like what ye thirty five and nineteen? Yeah, Garnett,

1486
01:04:01,600 --> 01:04:03,200
Speaker 1: it's a little more louder, you know, if you know

1487
01:04:03,240 --> 01:04:05,280
Speaker 1: if you're having a good game, like you you know

1488
01:04:05,360 --> 01:04:08,280
Speaker 1: all the moves she had and the rebounds. But Tim

1489
01:04:08,400 --> 01:04:10,400
Speaker 1: was quiet about his and the stat She was like, wait,

1490
01:04:10,440 --> 01:04:12,680
Speaker 1: hold on the second. Now he had that good of

1491
01:04:12,760 --> 01:04:13,040
Speaker 1: a game.

1492
01:04:14,520 --> 01:04:15,360
Speaker 3: I agree with that one.

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01:04:15,840 --> 01:04:17,680
Speaker 2: You do you got the next one, coach, give another one?

1494
01:04:18,120 --> 01:04:23,720
Speaker 3: Ah Man, favorite dunk in your career, My favorite dunk

1495
01:04:23,800 --> 01:04:24,480
Speaker 3: of my career.

1496
01:04:25,000 --> 01:04:26,360
Speaker 2: I think you dunked on me a couple of times.

1497
01:04:26,360 --> 01:04:31,360
Speaker 3: Ag uh. I remember he went he ripped through me

1498
01:04:31,400 --> 01:04:32,680
Speaker 3: and went right one times.

1499
01:04:32,720 --> 01:04:34,080
Speaker 2: Positive dunked on me a couple of times.

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01:04:34,720 --> 01:04:37,000
Speaker 1: My favorite dunk of all time, I would say, I mean,

1501
01:04:37,120 --> 01:04:39,560
Speaker 1: it's hard to pick one, right, I think one that's

1502
01:04:39,600 --> 01:04:44,440
Speaker 1: probably the most memorable one is All Star Game Phoenix.

1503
01:04:45,800 --> 01:04:49,120
Speaker 1: Kobe tossed a lot from half court and I caught

1504
01:04:49,160 --> 01:04:51,120
Speaker 1: it and like win, milled to the other side of

1505
01:04:51,160 --> 01:04:51,480
Speaker 1: the rim.

1506
01:04:52,400 --> 01:04:54,720
Speaker 2: See see, I'm want to tell you something. It's hard

1507
01:04:54,760 --> 01:04:56,160
Speaker 2: for you to pick one. It's easy for me to

1508
01:04:56,200 --> 01:04:57,960
Speaker 2: pick one. I had three.

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01:04:58,200 --> 01:05:00,080
Speaker 3: First of all, the motherfucker said he went me and

1510
01:05:00,160 --> 01:05:01,840
Speaker 3: I thought he was done. Then he said he to

1511
01:05:01,960 --> 01:05:07,240
Speaker 3: the other side of the rim, what should we pull

1512
01:05:07,320 --> 01:05:10,520
Speaker 3: that clip when you say this ship? Because that's crazy.

1513
01:05:11,400 --> 01:05:12,480
Speaker 2: We're gonna come back to that clip.

1514
01:05:12,880 --> 01:05:14,439
Speaker 3: We gotta have that mother fucking clip.

1515
01:05:14,520 --> 01:05:15,520
Speaker 2: That he was done.

1516
01:05:16,440 --> 01:05:18,280
Speaker 3: He called it women. Then he said to the other

1517
01:05:18,360 --> 01:05:20,680
Speaker 3: side of the rim. That just changed the whole degree

1518
01:05:20,680 --> 01:05:23,040
Speaker 3: of difficulty on the fucking up. That's ridiculous.

1519
01:05:23,120 --> 01:05:25,120
Speaker 2: Who is your favorite coach to play for in your

1520
01:05:25,240 --> 01:05:28,080
Speaker 2: NBA career? What is your favorite arena playing? It's one question,

1521
01:05:28,200 --> 01:05:30,200
Speaker 2: not three. What is your favorite You.

1522
01:05:30,240 --> 01:05:33,080
Speaker 3: Get one question? Z D Yeah, what is your favorite coach?

1523
01:05:33,160 --> 01:05:36,400
Speaker 1: On? My favorite coach to play for your NBA career. Wow,

1524
01:05:39,560 --> 01:05:41,080
Speaker 1: I would have to. I would have to. I would

1525
01:05:41,080 --> 01:05:41,480
Speaker 1: have to.

1526
01:05:43,440 --> 01:05:43,800
Speaker 2: Mm hmm.

1527
01:05:44,240 --> 01:05:48,080
Speaker 3: My favorite coach. It's hard to pick one, right. I enjoyed.

1528
01:05:48,240 --> 01:05:53,439
Speaker 3: I enjoyed playing with or for Alvin Gentry was cool.

1529
01:05:54,120 --> 01:05:54,640
Speaker 2: He was cool.

1530
01:05:55,440 --> 01:05:59,520
Speaker 1: I also enjoyed playing with Mike Woodson and then Mike D'Antoni.

1531
01:05:59,600 --> 01:06:03,320
Speaker 1: Those are my three top guys. Okay, cool, motherfuckers. You

1532
01:06:03,400 --> 01:06:04,920
Speaker 1: got no complaints with those mond fuckers.

1533
01:06:05,720 --> 01:06:07,520
Speaker 2: We talked about that one. How painful was the fire

1534
01:06:07,560 --> 01:06:08,400
Speaker 2: extinguisher incident?

1535
01:06:08,920 --> 01:06:11,000
Speaker 1: It wasn't painful all Actually, I didn't know nothing happened

1536
01:06:11,040 --> 01:06:14,720
Speaker 1: until my teammate pointed out, like, yeah, wrap.

1537
01:06:14,560 --> 01:06:20,280
Speaker 3: That finished the series as expected? How expect them not

1538
01:06:20,360 --> 01:06:27,400
Speaker 3: to twenty eight? Yea, god, I wouldn't spect It was serious, man.

1539
01:06:27,640 --> 01:06:29,240
Speaker 3: You wrap that ship up and finished the series like

1540
01:06:29,280 --> 01:06:30,080
Speaker 3: a real one. Yeah.

1541
01:06:31,840 --> 01:06:33,800
Speaker 2: Oh, here's a good one. What do you think of

1542
01:06:33,880 --> 01:06:34,640
Speaker 2: Victor Winbyama?

1543
01:06:36,160 --> 01:06:40,840
Speaker 1: I like big game. You know, it's versatile. At his height,

1544
01:06:42,080 --> 01:06:43,400
Speaker 1: he has a lot to bring to the table. I

1545
01:06:43,440 --> 01:06:47,120
Speaker 1: think he's a good defensive player obviously been seven seven

1546
01:06:47,320 --> 01:06:51,400
Speaker 1: six Yeah right matter, Yeah, I like his game. I

1547
01:06:51,440 --> 01:06:52,880
Speaker 1: think I think he's only a good player.

1548
01:06:54,440 --> 01:06:58,160
Speaker 3: Today's game, in today's game, for sure, today's game. You

1549
01:07:00,000 --> 01:07:03,200
Speaker 3: would you do in today's game? Oh man, today's game.

1550
01:07:03,600 --> 01:07:05,240
Speaker 3: We know how much they'll pay you, But what would

1551
01:07:05,240 --> 01:07:06,640
Speaker 3: you do in today's game? Would you be running to

1552
01:07:06,720 --> 01:07:08,680
Speaker 3: the three for the three point line every time? Not

1553
01:07:08,800 --> 01:07:10,280
Speaker 3: every time? Not every time?

1554
01:07:10,280 --> 01:07:12,080
Speaker 1: I remember one time I was shooting threes in practice

1555
01:07:12,920 --> 01:07:14,640
Speaker 1: and they were like, why you shooting threes? You shoot

1556
01:07:14,680 --> 01:07:17,640
Speaker 1: eighty five percent fifteen You know what I'm saying.

1557
01:07:17,880 --> 01:07:19,960
Speaker 3: I was hurt by that. That's true. I was trying.

1558
01:07:20,200 --> 01:07:21,480
Speaker 1: I was a versus of the player. I'm trying to

1559
01:07:21,520 --> 01:07:23,640
Speaker 1: expand my game, you know what I'm saying. But now

1560
01:07:23,680 --> 01:07:26,800
Speaker 1: today's game, you know that's a normal thing, right, And

1561
01:07:26,960 --> 01:07:28,880
Speaker 1: so I think I'll just have both. I have, like

1562
01:07:29,080 --> 01:07:31,840
Speaker 1: you know, inside outside game, still be running to the

1563
01:07:31,880 --> 01:07:32,800
Speaker 1: basket dunk. Yeah.

1564
01:07:32,800 --> 01:07:35,160
Speaker 3: Absolutely, that ain't gonna never change. That will never change.

1565
01:07:35,160 --> 01:07:36,320
Speaker 2: I ain't gonna lot to you. I just ran an

1566
01:07:36,320 --> 01:07:38,400
Speaker 2: elbow clear every time with you going right and dunk

1567
01:07:38,600 --> 01:07:43,560
Speaker 2: gain right all all time. Starting five of your favorite teammates.

1568
01:07:44,640 --> 01:07:52,800
Speaker 1: All time, Starting five favorite teammates point guard Nash shooting

1569
01:07:52,880 --> 01:08:00,440
Speaker 1: guard d Wade Small for Carmelo Powerful, one of us

1570
01:08:03,680 --> 01:08:10,000
Speaker 1: you okay, but I mean the hell the center backup shack. Yeah,

1571
01:08:10,760 --> 01:08:11,600
Speaker 1: ain't nobody beating that.

1572
01:08:13,640 --> 01:08:15,800
Speaker 2: What is your favorite story from playing with Steve Nash?

1573
01:08:16,640 --> 01:08:18,960
Speaker 2: Same question but with d Wade? Thank you, o GS,

1574
01:08:19,000 --> 01:08:19,479
Speaker 2: You're welcome.

1575
01:08:19,560 --> 01:08:22,439
Speaker 1: My favorite story playing with Steve Nash. You know, we

1576
01:08:22,520 --> 01:08:26,840
Speaker 1: all hung out, right, so like after the games, after

1577
01:08:26,880 --> 01:08:28,880
Speaker 1: the games, we'll go out and kick it, you know,

1578
01:08:28,960 --> 01:08:30,559
Speaker 1: we go to we go to clubs that are more

1579
01:08:30,560 --> 01:08:32,160
Speaker 1: and more, a little bit more rugged.

1580
01:08:32,320 --> 01:08:33,639
Speaker 3: A little more urban type clubs.

1581
01:08:35,439 --> 01:08:36,960
Speaker 1: Got out there. Yeah, and I look in the corner

1582
01:08:37,000 --> 01:08:47,160
Speaker 1: like na right, camaraderie, that's the camaraderie that we built,

1583
01:08:47,200 --> 01:08:48,719
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. He was one of the guys.

1584
01:08:49,240 --> 01:08:51,200
Speaker 1: It's one of the guys. Give me the same thing

1585
01:08:51,240 --> 01:08:54,760
Speaker 1: with with with you with U d Wade the way

1586
01:08:54,880 --> 01:08:57,120
Speaker 1: the way I know, I knew d Way since playing

1587
01:08:57,120 --> 01:08:58,680
Speaker 1: the Limbers in two thousand and four, So it was

1588
01:08:58,840 --> 01:09:00,600
Speaker 1: it was always a friendship deal there with so I

1589
01:09:00,600 --> 01:09:03,320
Speaker 1: already knew kind of how d Wade I was getting down.

1590
01:09:03,360 --> 01:09:07,160
Speaker 1: He was also very open to give out information about

1591
01:09:07,200 --> 01:09:09,840
Speaker 1: the game too, like to help you like become a

1592
01:09:09,880 --> 01:09:12,120
Speaker 1: better player. And it was also people tried to realize

1593
01:09:12,160 --> 01:09:14,360
Speaker 1: the Wade is really a past first kind of player. Yeah,

1594
01:09:14,680 --> 01:09:16,439
Speaker 1: you want to get you involved, you know what I'm saying.

1595
01:09:16,880 --> 01:09:17,200
Speaker 3: And I was.

1596
01:09:17,439 --> 01:09:18,960
Speaker 2: I was fun, I do it was so good. Hey

1597
01:09:19,040 --> 01:09:20,320
Speaker 2: we have to clip. Hold up, I gotta see this.

1598
01:09:24,640 --> 01:09:25,400
Speaker 2: That's a long clip.

1599
01:09:30,160 --> 01:09:32,080
Speaker 3: First of all, you made it look easy. No, that's crazy.

1600
01:09:32,600 --> 01:09:36,639
Speaker 3: You made it look easy. Off the one leg. Off

1601
01:09:36,680 --> 01:09:38,120
Speaker 3: the one leg. That's crazy.

1602
01:09:38,439 --> 01:09:40,160
Speaker 1: I was in Denver. Actually that's when. That's what it

1603
01:09:40,240 --> 01:09:43,240
Speaker 1: was in Denver. Now, Phoenix, that's crazy. Off the one

1604
01:09:43,320 --> 01:09:44,600
Speaker 1: leg ring it to the other side and.

1605
01:09:44,800 --> 01:09:46,280
Speaker 2: Had been I tell you now, that'd have been a

1606
01:09:46,280 --> 01:09:47,240
Speaker 2: sick ass layup by me.

1607
01:09:50,439 --> 01:09:54,559
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's crazy. I was good, passed by cold great past.

1608
01:09:56,160 --> 01:09:59,800
Speaker 2: Oh young stat boy, young stab boy.

1609
01:10:00,080 --> 01:10:04,200
Speaker 3: Uh look at the kid ship like that is like.

1610
01:10:05,840 --> 01:10:06,920
Speaker 2: Right now from South Dakota.

1611
01:10:08,439 --> 01:10:13,280
Speaker 3: What we got got doing? Oh yeah yeah yeah yeah,

1612
01:10:13,760 --> 01:10:13,960
Speaker 3: I was.

1613
01:10:19,439 --> 01:10:21,280
Speaker 2: Now I know, Batman.

1614
01:10:23,280 --> 01:10:25,400
Speaker 1: Man, I'm hot. We're losing the game. I don't found

1615
01:10:25,479 --> 01:10:27,759
Speaker 1: out like I'm not helping him. M yeah, I remember

1616
01:10:27,840 --> 01:10:30,960
Speaker 1: that was trying to Shae. He knew what he was doing.

1617
01:10:31,320 --> 01:10:32,840
Speaker 3: Shane. You knew what you were doing. Shane.

1618
01:10:33,840 --> 01:10:34,200
Speaker 1: You do what.

1619
01:10:36,400 --> 01:10:44,000
Speaker 3: Grabbed back the game? He wasn't gonna help it. But

1620
01:10:44,200 --> 01:10:45,599
Speaker 3: I don't know what I thought about it. I thought

1621
01:10:45,640 --> 01:10:47,519
Speaker 3: about that I realized when I found out, oh no,

1622
01:10:47,600 --> 01:10:49,639
Speaker 3: I'm not helping this man. And the fact that shan't

1623
01:10:49,640 --> 01:10:51,599
Speaker 3: grabbed the back of your shorts and put yourself up.

1624
01:10:51,520 --> 01:10:55,840
Speaker 2: To classic Shane right there. Well, man, I ain't gonna

1625
01:10:55,880 --> 01:10:57,960
Speaker 2: lie to your staff. I had so much from bring

1626
01:10:58,000 --> 01:11:01,960
Speaker 2: your hair, learned so much from this press, a dog press.

1627
01:11:02,479 --> 01:11:03,920
Speaker 3: Very few guests we've had on here where I can

1628
01:11:03,960 --> 01:11:07,680
Speaker 3: say that I actually learned ship today. But before you go, though,

1629
01:11:07,960 --> 01:11:10,400
Speaker 3: what else? What's next? Though? What's next? Because I see,

1630
01:11:10,560 --> 01:11:13,040
Speaker 3: you know, touching everything. I like to call myself to

1631
01:11:13,080 --> 01:11:15,400
Speaker 3: ought to put a hustle, I like to grab touch

1632
01:11:15,439 --> 01:11:16,680
Speaker 3: a little bit of this, a little bit of that.

1633
01:11:16,800 --> 01:11:20,439
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying? What's next for you? Right now?

1634
01:11:20,520 --> 01:11:22,280
Speaker 1: Man, I'm just focusing on the food and wine. Right

1635
01:11:22,280 --> 01:11:24,120
Speaker 1: I got start of my farms and then start of

1636
01:11:24,160 --> 01:11:26,360
Speaker 1: my wines. Those are my two pressing projects.

1637
01:11:26,400 --> 01:11:27,639
Speaker 2: How do I get out of my wines?

1638
01:11:27,840 --> 01:11:29,200
Speaker 3: I was just gonna ask about the start of my

1639
01:11:29,280 --> 01:11:31,040
Speaker 3: wines dot com? How do I get it? How do

1640
01:11:31,120 --> 01:11:33,040
Speaker 3: I need the food? Do you sell that or that

1641
01:11:33,240 --> 01:11:33,479
Speaker 3: just for you?

1642
01:11:33,840 --> 01:11:34,040
Speaker 2: Well?

1643
01:11:34,160 --> 01:11:36,960
Speaker 3: That is only at the markets and also like exclusive

1644
01:11:37,000 --> 01:11:38,519
Speaker 3: because I want to. I'm want the health journey too.

1645
01:11:38,520 --> 01:11:40,320
Speaker 3: I gave it. I don't even eat red meat at all, right,

1646
01:11:40,479 --> 01:11:44,240
Speaker 3: just seafood and chicken. But my chef and the people

1647
01:11:44,400 --> 01:11:46,400
Speaker 3: I talk to about it, if I do go back

1648
01:11:46,439 --> 01:11:48,000
Speaker 3: to red meat, it's got to be grass fed. It's

1649
01:11:48,040 --> 01:11:50,640
Speaker 3: gonna be front of land, right exactly, so exactly that's

1650
01:11:50,680 --> 01:11:53,000
Speaker 3: the next step for me. But wondering where to get

1651
01:11:53,040 --> 01:11:55,160
Speaker 3: that ship from is another question I got. You don't worry.

1652
01:11:55,680 --> 01:11:58,280
Speaker 2: Let's let's pa a textra together. Just put our diets together, guys,

1653
01:11:58,520 --> 01:11:58,920
Speaker 2: let's do it.

1654
01:12:00,760 --> 01:12:01,679
Speaker 3: No beer and no dip.

1655
01:12:02,200 --> 01:12:05,439
Speaker 2: That's not gonna happen. Take me out that text red.

1656
01:12:06,520 --> 01:12:08,360
Speaker 2: But for real, man, like it's it's impressive and I

1657
01:12:08,439 --> 01:12:09,719
Speaker 2: want to get on that start of my wines.

1658
01:12:09,840 --> 01:12:12,439
Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly, the start of my wines dot com. It's

1659
01:12:12,439 --> 01:12:14,479
Speaker 1: all three of rose. You have white and Russell red.

1660
01:12:15,800 --> 01:12:19,200
Speaker 2: Before we leave, give us some og advice, O g ship.

1661
01:12:19,680 --> 01:12:21,120
Speaker 3: You can do anything you want to do in life

1662
01:12:21,200 --> 01:12:22,720
Speaker 3: you want it bad enough and you put your heart

1663
01:12:22,760 --> 01:12:24,439
Speaker 3: in mind to it. I'm looking at stat right now

1664
01:12:24,600 --> 01:12:27,360
Speaker 3: and coming from Late Wells, Florida, right and you know

1665
01:12:27,400 --> 01:12:29,639
Speaker 3: what I'm saying. Putting together a plan in the ninth

1666
01:12:29,680 --> 01:12:32,200
Speaker 3: grade of just being the NBA player, but obviously where

1667
01:12:32,200 --> 01:12:36,960
Speaker 3: he is now businesses, Uh, you know health and you

1668
01:12:37,040 --> 01:12:39,920
Speaker 3: know owner of a team and you know, just doing

1669
01:12:39,960 --> 01:12:43,439
Speaker 3: all these different things. Man, I mean, just be prepared

1670
01:12:43,479 --> 01:12:45,280
Speaker 3: for whatever life's gonna bring you and take advantage of

1671
01:12:45,320 --> 01:12:47,519
Speaker 3: your opportunities when it come. Exactly. That's all I can

1672
01:12:47,600 --> 01:12:49,200
Speaker 3: tell you, because you never know what's gonna happen, like

1673
01:12:49,240 --> 01:12:50,400
Speaker 3: you never know where you're gonna be at, So be

1674
01:12:50,439 --> 01:12:53,000
Speaker 3: prepared for your opportunities and take advantage on when they come.

1675
01:12:53,200 --> 01:12:53,639
Speaker 3: That's true.

1676
01:12:54,320 --> 01:12:59,480
Speaker 2: Word. We'll appreciate you coming in, O gl