1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:04,040 Speaker 1: Hello the Internet, and welcome to this episode of Hattie 2 00:00:04,040 --> 00:00:08,720 Speaker 1: Hell Trenderino. Oh that one courtesy of Snarfula on the discord. 3 00:00:10,160 --> 00:00:14,200 Speaker 1: We got we got a Simpson's Icons episode coming up 4 00:00:14,240 --> 00:00:18,280 Speaker 1: on Monday. But that was a repuls too, but we 5 00:00:18,320 --> 00:00:21,080 Speaker 1: tell people the people know. Yeah, I usually say what 6 00:00:21,079 --> 00:00:23,560 Speaker 1: we got coming up at the end of the previous 7 00:00:24,320 --> 00:00:25,279 Speaker 1: Icons episode. 8 00:00:25,440 --> 00:00:29,280 Speaker 2: Oh okay, okay, because all the way through. 9 00:00:30,200 --> 00:00:34,159 Speaker 1: Everything, as do I anytime I'm out, I listened to 10 00:00:34,240 --> 00:00:40,840 Speaker 1: the whole episode when I'm out to miss to the Yeah, 11 00:00:40,880 --> 00:00:43,959 Speaker 1: I was saying that we did crypto cryptids too, too 12 00:00:44,000 --> 00:00:46,320 Speaker 1: tiny cryptids in a row, and we're going for a 13 00:00:46,400 --> 00:00:50,360 Speaker 1: third because Bart Simpson essentially a crypto crypt That's not true. 14 00:00:50,479 --> 00:00:53,960 Speaker 1: No real boy, a real boy. I couldn't find any 15 00:00:54,040 --> 00:00:57,720 Speaker 1: sightings any people who claim to be cited or been 16 00:00:57,760 --> 00:00:59,160 Speaker 1: abducted by Bart Simpson. 17 00:00:59,800 --> 00:01:03,520 Speaker 2: Like an organic Bart Simpson would look like if it 18 00:01:03,560 --> 00:01:06,640 Speaker 2: were a cryptid, you know, like it would be some humanoid. 19 00:01:06,680 --> 00:01:08,600 Speaker 2: Because you always see people do like the like this 20 00:01:08,640 --> 00:01:10,440 Speaker 2: is what the Simpsons look like if they're real people. 21 00:01:10,480 --> 00:01:13,840 Speaker 2: I'm like, yeah, yeah, sure, but like truly like a 22 00:01:13,880 --> 00:01:16,959 Speaker 2: thing with like a jagged head top. Yeah, you know, 23 00:01:17,000 --> 00:01:19,679 Speaker 2: because he doesn't have like I mean, he has implied hair, 24 00:01:20,240 --> 00:01:22,440 Speaker 2: but I just like the idea of like a sawtoothed 25 00:01:22,480 --> 00:01:24,280 Speaker 2: skull at the top, and I. 26 00:01:24,240 --> 00:01:27,520 Speaker 1: Get his head, like, do we think the spikes are soft? 27 00:01:28,319 --> 00:01:30,000 Speaker 1: Do you think like they get soft? 28 00:01:30,040 --> 00:01:32,399 Speaker 2: Well, it wasn't it like that funny X ray picture 29 00:01:32,440 --> 00:01:37,119 Speaker 2: of bart And it's like it's his bone too, It's like. 30 00:01:37,080 --> 00:01:41,760 Speaker 1: A dinosaur's bone structure. Anyways, it's a fun episode. You 31 00:01:41,760 --> 00:01:44,360 Speaker 1: can check that out on Monday. My name is Jack O'Brien. 32 00:01:44,560 --> 00:01:48,680 Speaker 1: That over there is mister Miles Gray. This is the 33 00:01:48,720 --> 00:01:51,040 Speaker 1: episode where we tell you what is trending on this Thursday, 34 00:01:51,160 --> 00:01:57,960 Speaker 1: March nineteenth. We're in Iran? Is that right? Yeah, that's 35 00:01:58,040 --> 00:02:02,800 Speaker 1: right all over King good buddy, Uh warn't Iron still 36 00:02:03,120 --> 00:02:09,160 Speaker 1: still raging out of control. Still the US not not 37 00:02:09,200 --> 00:02:11,720 Speaker 1: really admitting that they're losing, Like they still haven't admitted 38 00:02:12,639 --> 00:02:16,120 Speaker 1: what happened to the three fighter jets. Yeah yeah, yeah, 39 00:02:16,160 --> 00:02:20,040 Speaker 1: the ones that they're like these are unshootdownable, like these 40 00:02:20,040 --> 00:02:23,280 Speaker 1: are invincible Fighter. Oh three of them gone on the 41 00:02:23,320 --> 00:02:29,720 Speaker 1: same day. I think the latest explanation is like my 42 00:02:29,880 --> 00:02:33,680 Speaker 1: favorite JFK conspiracy theory. I think I think his head 43 00:02:33,840 --> 00:02:38,520 Speaker 1: just did that they're they're basically just like, yeah, I 44 00:02:38,520 --> 00:02:41,600 Speaker 1: don't know. Sometimes fighter jets just just fall out of 45 00:02:41,639 --> 00:02:45,280 Speaker 1: the sky, man, Like why do they do Yeah, some 46 00:02:45,639 --> 00:02:50,040 Speaker 1: like they just that happened, okay, and nobody there's no 47 00:02:50,120 --> 00:02:54,320 Speaker 1: real cause I certainly didn't do this to us because 48 00:02:54,320 --> 00:02:56,239 Speaker 1: that would be a sign of weakness. We didn't do 49 00:02:56,280 --> 00:02:58,480 Speaker 1: it to ourselves because that would be a sign of weakness. 50 00:02:58,720 --> 00:03:02,480 Speaker 1: Sometimes a fighter jets just like kind of flops flops 51 00:03:02,520 --> 00:03:05,799 Speaker 1: down to the gold falls out of the sky, and 52 00:03:06,240 --> 00:03:09,800 Speaker 1: we all just, you know, we have to we have 53 00:03:09,880 --> 00:03:12,359 Speaker 1: to wish them a fond farewell as they go live 54 00:03:12,440 --> 00:03:15,320 Speaker 1: with a nice gay couple on a farm upstate. 55 00:03:15,560 --> 00:03:18,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, did you see like all that? There was something 56 00:03:18,200 --> 00:03:20,520 Speaker 2: like all the there's like a ton of Reaper drone 57 00:03:20,560 --> 00:03:25,520 Speaker 2: like twelve, like a dozen Reaper drones have been destroyed 58 00:03:25,560 --> 00:03:29,800 Speaker 2: in this fucking war. They each cost sixteen million dollars 59 00:03:29,840 --> 00:03:33,440 Speaker 2: a piece. Like I think every headline should really be 60 00:03:33,800 --> 00:03:36,960 Speaker 2: calculating what the cost is of all this shit too. 61 00:03:37,560 --> 00:03:38,640 Speaker 1: To the Americans. 62 00:03:38,720 --> 00:03:40,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, because they're asking they're about to ask 63 00:03:40,520 --> 00:03:44,080 Speaker 2: for more money, you know what I mean. And you're like, no, no, 64 00:03:44,840 --> 00:03:46,760 Speaker 2: fuck all that, fuck all this because I think more 65 00:03:47,080 --> 00:03:49,600 Speaker 2: people really need to connect that the reason we don't. 66 00:03:49,640 --> 00:03:51,800 Speaker 2: I mean, I think people do on a sort of 67 00:03:51,840 --> 00:03:54,840 Speaker 2: broader scale, but I think it could really be hammered home, 68 00:03:54,960 --> 00:03:59,040 Speaker 2: like they just lost twelve sixteen million dollar toys apiece. 69 00:03:59,760 --> 00:04:00,520 Speaker 2: That's not good. 70 00:04:00,800 --> 00:04:08,440 Speaker 1: They're murdering innocent children with your money. Congratulations, congratulations, congratulations, Congratulations, 71 00:04:08,560 --> 00:04:10,720 Speaker 1: you've murdered innocence or their own tax money. 72 00:04:10,720 --> 00:04:12,200 Speaker 2: Congratulations you've won an iPod. 73 00:04:12,360 --> 00:04:16,360 Speaker 1: But Pete Hagshath made this very clear to his thirteen 74 00:04:16,440 --> 00:04:17,200 Speaker 1: year old son. 75 00:04:17,600 --> 00:04:19,919 Speaker 2: Yeah. Do you think he really said this line. 76 00:04:20,600 --> 00:04:22,080 Speaker 1: I don't know. This is what he said. 77 00:04:22,160 --> 00:04:24,840 Speaker 2: So he was giving remarks at the Pentagon or the 78 00:04:25,920 --> 00:04:28,440 Speaker 2: five sided War Cube or whatever they're going to call 79 00:04:28,480 --> 00:04:32,040 Speaker 2: it now. He said, quote, My thirteen year old son 80 00:04:32,160 --> 00:04:34,480 Speaker 2: popped into my office last night while I was editing 81 00:04:34,520 --> 00:04:38,120 Speaker 2: these remarks. He asked about the war and the families 82 00:04:38,160 --> 00:04:40,920 Speaker 2: I met at Dover, you know, like the dignified transfer 83 00:04:41,000 --> 00:04:43,440 Speaker 2: takes place. Yeah, And I looked at him and I said, 84 00:04:44,240 --> 00:04:48,040 Speaker 2: they died for you, son, so that your generation doesn't 85 00:04:48,040 --> 00:04:50,080 Speaker 2: have to deal with a nuclear IRN. 86 00:04:50,800 --> 00:04:55,080 Speaker 1: Cool dad, Because thank you, I'm going to go kill myself. Yeah, 87 00:04:55,160 --> 00:04:55,760 Speaker 1: thanks for that. 88 00:04:56,000 --> 00:04:58,960 Speaker 2: Thanks Oh that's for They died for me for me, 89 00:04:59,600 --> 00:05:01,760 Speaker 2: So I you don't have to deal with a nuclear on. 90 00:05:01,839 --> 00:05:02,520 Speaker 2: I'm sorry, are you? 91 00:05:02,839 --> 00:05:04,240 Speaker 1: Are you dealing with a nuclearon? 92 00:05:04,960 --> 00:05:07,279 Speaker 2: Was? Was anyone ever dealing with a nuclear irn? 93 00:05:08,160 --> 00:05:13,400 Speaker 1: Mmmmm yeah. I'm gonna direct those questions. I need your 94 00:05:13,800 --> 00:05:17,840 Speaker 1: Pentagon press credentials. Son, you're not allowed to talk to 95 00:05:17,839 --> 00:05:20,160 Speaker 1: about like that arrangement syndrome mass whole. We'll get out 96 00:05:20,160 --> 00:05:20,440 Speaker 1: of here. 97 00:05:21,200 --> 00:05:23,440 Speaker 2: It was there, but Dad, didn't you remember you came 98 00:05:23,480 --> 00:05:26,080 Speaker 2: home and you said you destroyed all their nuclear capabilities 99 00:05:26,160 --> 00:05:30,360 Speaker 2: last summer. They last summer they built it back already 100 00:05:30,560 --> 00:05:35,520 Speaker 2: really good? All right, yeah, very I mean, I mean. 101 00:05:35,680 --> 00:05:38,920 Speaker 1: They sound really tenacious, like the type of people you 102 00:05:38,960 --> 00:05:42,360 Speaker 1: wouldn't want to get into a ground war with. Yeah, yeah, yeah. 103 00:05:42,560 --> 00:05:44,240 Speaker 2: Because there's also a rumor now and I don't know, 104 00:05:44,279 --> 00:05:46,800 Speaker 2: like there's so many headlines that come out that like 105 00:05:46,920 --> 00:05:50,919 Speaker 2: feel like bluster, but there's also a report that that 106 00:05:51,000 --> 00:05:55,960 Speaker 2: the administration is considering deploying thousands of troops now on 107 00:05:56,040 --> 00:05:58,560 Speaker 2: the ground. But it just feels so much like everything 108 00:05:58,560 --> 00:06:00,760 Speaker 2: that happens, it's like, well, you better know you better, 109 00:06:00,880 --> 00:06:02,400 Speaker 2: and then they do and they're like, well, I didn't 110 00:06:02,400 --> 00:06:05,680 Speaker 2: think you were gonna do Oh uh were we? 111 00:06:05,800 --> 00:06:08,480 Speaker 1: Yeah? It feels like the I mean this just happened 112 00:06:08,560 --> 00:06:13,200 Speaker 1: with the Israel strike on Iran's South Pars gas field 113 00:06:13,880 --> 00:06:16,440 Speaker 1: that everybody's like, this is a massive escalation of a 114 00:06:16,520 --> 00:06:19,839 Speaker 1: war that you know, the US at least was saying 115 00:06:19,880 --> 00:06:22,720 Speaker 1: that they wanted to like start scaling back from and 116 00:06:22,760 --> 00:06:28,719 Speaker 1: declaring victory on and you know that's prompted retaliatory attacks 117 00:06:28,920 --> 00:06:34,320 Speaker 1: on energy facilities, including in Qatar, and everyone's like, what 118 00:06:34,760 --> 00:06:37,920 Speaker 1: the fuck are you doing here? Yes, it seems like 119 00:06:37,960 --> 00:06:41,720 Speaker 1: you're making the war worse, but this is it has 120 00:06:41,760 --> 00:06:46,520 Speaker 1: the same exact energy as what we've been kind of 121 00:06:46,560 --> 00:06:50,880 Speaker 1: seeing from Israel in the US since the genocide and 122 00:06:50,920 --> 00:06:54,640 Speaker 1: Gaza began, like that they will do something horrible and 123 00:06:54,680 --> 00:06:58,359 Speaker 1: then just like boy energy just be like nah, it 124 00:06:58,400 --> 00:07:01,400 Speaker 1: wasn't me, babe, and then wait for things to calm 125 00:07:01,440 --> 00:07:03,320 Speaker 1: down before like doing another one. 126 00:07:03,440 --> 00:07:06,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, Or like I also believe or maybe like this 127 00:07:06,480 --> 00:07:09,360 Speaker 2: is where Trump, like many other people realized, or I 128 00:07:09,360 --> 00:07:12,960 Speaker 2: think maybe previous administrations have realized liken yah, who's gonna 129 00:07:12,960 --> 00:07:14,840 Speaker 2: do whatever the fuck he wants? Yeah, because second you 130 00:07:14,880 --> 00:07:17,320 Speaker 2: buy in, he's gonna he's gonna use that. What are 131 00:07:17,320 --> 00:07:18,480 Speaker 2: you gonna do fucking turn your back on me? 132 00:07:18,560 --> 00:07:18,720 Speaker 1: Dude. 133 00:07:18,720 --> 00:07:21,200 Speaker 2: We're in this together, all right. So I'm going after 134 00:07:21,280 --> 00:07:25,680 Speaker 2: like energy, infrastructure and taking this thing way way further 135 00:07:26,120 --> 00:07:28,840 Speaker 2: than even you thought. And a lot of analysts were saying, 136 00:07:28,840 --> 00:07:32,360 Speaker 2: They're like, the thing that may actually end up causing 137 00:07:32,400 --> 00:07:35,840 Speaker 2: Trump to break from net Yaho is Trump's inability to 138 00:07:36,120 --> 00:07:38,520 Speaker 2: have to like own all of the failures of this 139 00:07:38,600 --> 00:07:41,000 Speaker 2: war and if he can just make net and Yahu 140 00:07:41,120 --> 00:07:43,000 Speaker 2: the escapegoat and be like, he went way too far, 141 00:07:43,120 --> 00:07:44,680 Speaker 2: This is not what we agreed to do, and now 142 00:07:44,720 --> 00:07:47,880 Speaker 2: he's on his own. Yeah, I don't, I don't. I 143 00:07:47,880 --> 00:07:50,840 Speaker 2: don't see that happening, since no one will align with 144 00:07:50,920 --> 00:07:51,840 Speaker 2: the US right. 145 00:07:51,880 --> 00:07:55,320 Speaker 1: The two things we're hearing for about this attack is one, 146 00:07:56,120 --> 00:07:59,840 Speaker 1: multiple outlets have reported that Trump approved Israel's plan to 147 00:08:00,160 --> 00:08:03,440 Speaker 1: tech South Pars and was coordinated between the Israeli Prime 148 00:08:03,440 --> 00:08:05,760 Speaker 1: Minister's office and the White House. And the other one 149 00:08:05,800 --> 00:08:10,200 Speaker 1: is Trump coming out on truth social being like, what 150 00:08:10,240 --> 00:08:12,600 Speaker 1: the fuck was this? I have no idea what's going on. 151 00:08:12,760 --> 00:08:15,200 Speaker 1: This guy's out of control. No more attacks will be 152 00:08:15,240 --> 00:08:19,360 Speaker 1: made by Israel. Yeah, So it does seem like maybe 153 00:08:19,440 --> 00:08:23,240 Speaker 1: he's setting it up as like wasn't me uh, which, 154 00:08:23,360 --> 00:08:26,880 Speaker 1: but that like again, that is like the Biden administration 155 00:08:27,200 --> 00:08:30,560 Speaker 1: during the genocide and Gaza, where it's just they keep 156 00:08:30,600 --> 00:08:33,320 Speaker 1: coming out and being like I am t oed man, 157 00:08:33,559 --> 00:08:36,440 Speaker 1: like this is not what I wanted at all, But 158 00:08:36,600 --> 00:08:38,520 Speaker 1: then behind closed doors they're just. 159 00:08:39,240 --> 00:08:40,920 Speaker 2: Like, yeah, yeah, let it cook, do whatever you got. 160 00:08:41,040 --> 00:08:41,199 Speaker 1: Yeah. 161 00:08:41,240 --> 00:08:43,520 Speaker 2: But I think this is the difficult part, right, is 162 00:08:43,559 --> 00:08:48,440 Speaker 2: because any escalation, like Iran knows, well, we're just going 163 00:08:48,520 --> 00:08:51,480 Speaker 2: to turn the screws up on your goalf allies, right, 164 00:08:51,640 --> 00:08:55,440 Speaker 2: drive a wedge between y'all there, right, And so this 165 00:08:55,880 --> 00:09:00,000 Speaker 2: attack and Cutter, I think is another moment where Trump 166 00:09:00,360 --> 00:09:02,640 Speaker 2: has to figure out how he manages. Like he's like, 167 00:09:03,120 --> 00:09:04,960 Speaker 2: you know, I'm sure all these Gulf states are like, dude, 168 00:09:04,960 --> 00:09:07,440 Speaker 2: what the fuck man you granted us like protection? What 169 00:09:07,480 --> 00:09:09,719 Speaker 2: the fuck is going on? And I think that's where 170 00:09:09,800 --> 00:09:12,679 Speaker 2: also Trump realizes that the reprisals that come from these 171 00:09:12,720 --> 00:09:16,560 Speaker 2: attacks also make it even make his coalition of willing 172 00:09:16,640 --> 00:09:20,240 Speaker 2: governments even more like it weakens it. And Cod's is 173 00:09:20,280 --> 00:09:24,040 Speaker 2: more financial chaos too, because hitting that hitting that facility, cutter, 174 00:09:24,320 --> 00:09:27,640 Speaker 2: all of these things end up affecting the price of energy, 175 00:09:28,160 --> 00:09:31,760 Speaker 2: and you're seeing the fallout. I've seen like seen like 176 00:09:31,840 --> 00:09:34,240 Speaker 2: you know, pictures of on the internet were like gas 177 00:09:34,280 --> 00:09:36,559 Speaker 2: prices are shooting up everywhere, you know what I mean, 178 00:09:36,559 --> 00:09:38,680 Speaker 2: and like we're talking about our own gas prices, but 179 00:09:38,800 --> 00:09:41,160 Speaker 2: it's it's a global thing, and I think those are 180 00:09:41,200 --> 00:09:44,319 Speaker 2: all becoming pressure points that Trump has to at least 181 00:09:44,640 --> 00:09:47,960 Speaker 2: hear when his people are like, Hey, this country's asking 182 00:09:48,000 --> 00:09:49,360 Speaker 2: what the fuck's going on? What are we going to 183 00:09:49,440 --> 00:09:51,079 Speaker 2: do right now? Estonia I think is like the one 184 00:09:51,120 --> 00:09:54,240 Speaker 2: country's like we could help with d mining maybe in 185 00:09:54,280 --> 00:09:57,679 Speaker 2: the Strait, but they're like, but only if there's a ceasefire, right, 186 00:09:57,800 --> 00:10:00,160 Speaker 2: So you know, we're not We're not fighting it, not 187 00:10:00,200 --> 00:10:04,600 Speaker 2: getting involved with this. So I don't know, it's I'm 188 00:10:04,640 --> 00:10:07,840 Speaker 2: sure Trump's got a lot of weird with all the 189 00:10:07,880 --> 00:10:10,600 Speaker 2: deals he's been making too with these Gulf states, Like 190 00:10:10,679 --> 00:10:12,720 Speaker 2: on the side, I don't know what kind of other 191 00:10:13,520 --> 00:10:17,280 Speaker 2: money deals end up becoming, you know, threatened by all 192 00:10:17,280 --> 00:10:21,640 Speaker 2: of this, But he will continue to just say I 193 00:10:21,679 --> 00:10:24,280 Speaker 2: will make promises like no more attacks will be made 194 00:10:24,280 --> 00:10:27,800 Speaker 2: by Israel pertaining to this extremely important and valuable South 195 00:10:27,880 --> 00:10:31,079 Speaker 2: pars Field unless he run and wisely decides to attack 196 00:10:31,160 --> 00:10:33,760 Speaker 2: it very innocent in this case Cutter, in which it says, 197 00:10:33,760 --> 00:10:36,160 Speaker 2: I will it's just it's hard to. 198 00:10:36,120 --> 00:10:38,960 Speaker 1: Follow what you will or won't do. But it's clear 199 00:10:39,000 --> 00:10:41,760 Speaker 1: that he has no chips. But we have no. 200 00:10:41,720 --> 00:10:42,720 Speaker 2: Winning hand here. 201 00:10:42,920 --> 00:10:47,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, the it is it like just the whole 202 00:10:48,160 --> 00:10:50,360 Speaker 1: It just feels like we are where you land with 203 00:10:50,400 --> 00:10:53,760 Speaker 1: an institution that has no consequences, like the thing the 204 00:10:53,800 --> 00:10:55,840 Speaker 1: things that are supposed to be checks on the power 205 00:10:55,920 --> 00:10:58,560 Speaker 1: of the government and the military, like the executive branch 206 00:10:58,600 --> 00:11:02,840 Speaker 1: of the military have been removed for like and like 207 00:11:03,520 --> 00:11:06,920 Speaker 1: it's kind of making me like that all those military 208 00:11:06,960 --> 00:11:09,360 Speaker 1: actions and like wars that the US was doing in 209 00:11:09,400 --> 00:11:12,360 Speaker 1: the eighties and nineties like Pana like invading Panama and 210 00:11:12,400 --> 00:11:15,920 Speaker 1: like invading Iraq, and like at the time, people were like, 211 00:11:15,960 --> 00:11:18,600 Speaker 1: there's a chance to like blast off some bang bangs 212 00:11:18,600 --> 00:11:22,000 Speaker 1: and make George hw Bush feel tough or whatever. But 213 00:11:22,480 --> 00:11:24,640 Speaker 1: I also feel like it was like the raptors testing 214 00:11:24,679 --> 00:11:27,840 Speaker 1: the fences that they were like seeing that you could 215 00:11:27,880 --> 00:11:31,840 Speaker 1: just get away with like aggressive unilateral wars and like 216 00:11:32,720 --> 00:11:35,720 Speaker 1: the not only like could could you do it, but 217 00:11:35,800 --> 00:11:38,760 Speaker 1: you could do it without any real blowback from like 218 00:11:38,840 --> 00:11:41,400 Speaker 1: Congress or the media. Yeah, yeah, yeah, and now that 219 00:11:41,600 --> 00:11:45,040 Speaker 1: they know the fences are off and they're just like, damn, 220 00:11:45,120 --> 00:11:49,600 Speaker 1: I told Israel not to do that, babe. Anyways, Yes, 221 00:11:49,760 --> 00:11:50,480 Speaker 1: what's on TV? 222 00:11:50,840 --> 00:11:53,880 Speaker 2: Because yeah, we've ever since nine to eleven, it's become 223 00:11:54,080 --> 00:11:58,240 Speaker 2: it's just exponentially gotten worse. Yeah, you know, the lack 224 00:11:58,280 --> 00:12:00,400 Speaker 2: of breaks that you can apply to as an ins 225 00:12:00,440 --> 00:12:03,280 Speaker 2: decision making. And now it's like this very personalistic foreign 226 00:12:03,360 --> 00:12:06,760 Speaker 2: policy where it's more like what do I personally want 227 00:12:06,800 --> 00:12:10,040 Speaker 2: to do? Yeah, not what is what's the information I'm 228 00:12:10,040 --> 00:12:12,200 Speaker 2: getting that would you know, help make any kind of 229 00:12:13,400 --> 00:12:16,000 Speaker 2: even keeled decision. It's like, no, what do I want 230 00:12:16,040 --> 00:12:18,199 Speaker 2: to do? And I think because of that that it's 231 00:12:18,200 --> 00:12:18,920 Speaker 2: not like, well, what do. 232 00:12:18,960 --> 00:12:19,520 Speaker 1: I want to do? 233 00:12:19,640 --> 00:12:22,720 Speaker 2: Is sort of like the default for a president that Yeah, 234 00:12:22,760 --> 00:12:25,120 Speaker 2: it's like what the fuck is an expert if? If 235 00:12:25,120 --> 00:12:27,720 Speaker 2: it's always at the you know, we're always beholden to 236 00:12:27,720 --> 00:12:29,199 Speaker 2: whatever the president wants to do. 237 00:12:29,679 --> 00:12:32,559 Speaker 1: Yeah, let's take a quick break, we'll come back. We'll 238 00:12:32,559 --> 00:12:35,680 Speaker 1: talk Mark Quain, we'll talk about crypto bro landlords. 239 00:12:35,920 --> 00:12:38,439 Speaker 2: Will I got to pay my bro landlord. 240 00:12:47,880 --> 00:12:50,880 Speaker 1: And we're back. So we talked. On yesterday's episode, Mark 241 00:12:50,880 --> 00:12:53,880 Speaker 1: Wain was like called out for talking like he was 242 00:12:53,960 --> 00:12:57,320 Speaker 1: like like he was John Ram, like, I've seen ship 243 00:12:57,400 --> 00:12:59,600 Speaker 1: that would make a I've eaten ship that would make 244 00:12:59,640 --> 00:13:02,320 Speaker 1: a bill to goat puke. I've been I've been in 245 00:13:02,360 --> 00:13:04,880 Speaker 1: the shit. Man. Once you smell, once you smell death 246 00:13:04,920 --> 00:13:08,520 Speaker 1: in your nostrils, you can't unsmell. That smell was essentially 247 00:13:08,600 --> 00:13:11,800 Speaker 1: the energy he was giving. And they were like, that's crazy, man, 248 00:13:11,840 --> 00:13:14,240 Speaker 1: where you like speak a little bit more on that, 249 00:13:14,720 --> 00:13:17,800 Speaker 1: like what is what exactly are you referring to there? 250 00:13:18,120 --> 00:13:20,720 Speaker 1: And he was like, I'm like, actually not allowed to 251 00:13:21,840 --> 00:13:22,760 Speaker 1: not allowed to say. 252 00:13:23,000 --> 00:13:24,280 Speaker 2: That's actually classified. 253 00:13:24,800 --> 00:13:27,720 Speaker 1: So so they're like, okay, so we have the skiff 254 00:13:27,760 --> 00:13:29,960 Speaker 1: where you can like talk about classified stuff. So let's 255 00:13:30,000 --> 00:13:33,960 Speaker 1: just go in there real quick. And he he was like, 256 00:13:34,320 --> 00:13:37,040 Speaker 1: let me, I need to find these four people who 257 00:13:37,280 --> 00:13:40,080 Speaker 1: can give me permission to speak on it, but they 258 00:13:40,120 --> 00:13:42,199 Speaker 1: are classified, so I don't know if I can find them. 259 00:13:42,440 --> 00:13:44,760 Speaker 2: It was just a yeah, it was all a very 260 00:13:45,360 --> 00:13:50,439 Speaker 2: very opaque thing, no details given because that would probably reveal. 261 00:13:50,760 --> 00:13:54,040 Speaker 1: You know, that this guy wasn't in any kind of 262 00:13:54,160 --> 00:13:55,040 Speaker 1: danger ever. 263 00:13:56,679 --> 00:13:59,240 Speaker 2: But yeah, I think what happened was I guess after 264 00:14:00,280 --> 00:14:05,800 Speaker 2: that that hearing, they went to go talk and after 265 00:14:05,840 --> 00:14:09,880 Speaker 2: there was like a behind closed doors briefing. It basically 266 00:14:10,120 --> 00:14:12,880 Speaker 2: like both the Republicans and Democrats both came out kind 267 00:14:12,880 --> 00:14:15,679 Speaker 2: of like what the fuck was that? So you had 268 00:14:15,920 --> 00:14:19,320 Speaker 2: like James Lankford, who is also an Oklahoma senator, who 269 00:14:19,400 --> 00:14:21,480 Speaker 2: was like, you know, the one kind of like shepherding 270 00:14:22,120 --> 00:14:24,520 Speaker 2: Mark Wayne through all this was sort of like, yeah, 271 00:14:24,560 --> 00:14:26,440 Speaker 2: this is just really not a big deal at all, 272 00:14:26,720 --> 00:14:28,680 Speaker 2: Like he just kind of made a mountain out of 273 00:14:28,680 --> 00:14:31,400 Speaker 2: a mole hill sort of situation. He said it was 274 00:14:31,400 --> 00:14:34,160 Speaker 2: dealing with like a like a whistleblower or something, has 275 00:14:34,160 --> 00:14:35,840 Speaker 2: nothing to do with like any kind of like reared 276 00:14:36,200 --> 00:14:40,400 Speaker 2: him shooting guns or anything. And then like but then 277 00:14:40,440 --> 00:14:42,600 Speaker 2: the Democrats were just sort of like, I don't know, man, 278 00:14:42,640 --> 00:14:44,960 Speaker 2: it's just like nothing makes sense that this guy says 279 00:14:45,000 --> 00:14:47,080 Speaker 2: it's not necessarily concerning where They're like, we think he's 280 00:14:47,080 --> 00:14:49,880 Speaker 2: some kind of like ascid like foreign asset or selling 281 00:14:50,320 --> 00:14:53,000 Speaker 2: state secrets. But they're all just like it's just like 282 00:14:53,120 --> 00:14:55,520 Speaker 2: it probably is nothing, but he's still trying to act 283 00:14:55,600 --> 00:14:57,520 Speaker 2: like it's something. So they just kind of came out 284 00:14:57,520 --> 00:15:00,280 Speaker 2: of shit yeah, and they're like all right, we. 285 00:15:00,240 --> 00:15:02,360 Speaker 1: Feel like we can humiliate this guy a little bit more. 286 00:15:02,720 --> 00:15:07,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, and they're like, yeah, whatever. Yeah. Richard Blumenthal, 287 00:15:07,120 --> 00:15:09,080 Speaker 2: who was in there, he told reporters it was quote 288 00:15:09,240 --> 00:15:12,680 Speaker 2: weird his description. He's like, but I can't get into 289 00:15:12,760 --> 00:15:15,040 Speaker 2: like what was said. Obviously it was classic. He's like, 290 00:15:15,080 --> 00:15:18,440 Speaker 2: it was just weird. So yeah, that's where he that's 291 00:15:18,440 --> 00:15:20,320 Speaker 2: where he ended up. And then so they did end 292 00:15:20,400 --> 00:15:23,800 Speaker 2: up taking the vote, and Rand Paul was like, yeah, 293 00:15:23,800 --> 00:15:26,720 Speaker 2: I'm sorry, dude, you're like violent. You think punching people's 294 00:15:26,760 --> 00:15:29,640 Speaker 2: like normal. You're a piece of shit. I hate you. 295 00:15:29,760 --> 00:15:31,080 Speaker 2: I don't know if I said that earlier, but. 296 00:15:31,000 --> 00:15:32,120 Speaker 1: I think I sorry to me. 297 00:15:33,160 --> 00:15:36,800 Speaker 2: Sorry, Yeah, I said I understood it why you were attacked. 298 00:15:36,800 --> 00:15:38,760 Speaker 2: I didn't say you deserved it. I said I understood it. 299 00:15:39,720 --> 00:15:44,400 Speaker 2: So Rand Paul wasn't no, So meaning if all the 300 00:15:44,440 --> 00:15:48,600 Speaker 2: Democrats voted along party lines, Mark Wayne, sorry, asshole, you 301 00:15:48,640 --> 00:15:50,280 Speaker 2: are getting out of committee and you're not going to 302 00:15:50,360 --> 00:15:52,680 Speaker 2: go to the full Senate for a full confirmation vote. 303 00:15:52,720 --> 00:15:56,280 Speaker 2: Oh but guess what. John Fetterman ended up being a 304 00:15:56,320 --> 00:15:58,360 Speaker 2: fucking yes to get it over the fucking way. 305 00:15:58,680 --> 00:16:00,840 Speaker 1: When is he up for? When can we get rid 306 00:16:00,840 --> 00:16:01,400 Speaker 1: of him? 307 00:16:01,680 --> 00:16:04,560 Speaker 2: Like, I mean, you know, one version if Chuck Schumer 308 00:16:04,640 --> 00:16:06,680 Speaker 2: had a fucking spine. He could be like, bro, I'm 309 00:16:06,720 --> 00:16:08,840 Speaker 2: taking you off these fucking committees, Man, what the fuck? 310 00:16:08,880 --> 00:16:10,560 Speaker 1: Who the fuck are the fuck out of here? 311 00:16:11,320 --> 00:16:14,360 Speaker 2: But yeah, he's uh, let's see, his primary is probably 312 00:16:14,360 --> 00:16:16,680 Speaker 2: twenty twenty eight, I think, because it was twenty twenty 313 00:16:16,680 --> 00:16:20,840 Speaker 2: two when he came in. So yeah, yeah, I think 314 00:16:20,880 --> 00:16:23,400 Speaker 2: you know, the people are rubbing their myths, uh for 315 00:16:23,520 --> 00:16:26,000 Speaker 2: a primary, for sure. I mean, it can't come fucking 316 00:16:26,080 --> 00:16:26,720 Speaker 2: soon enough. 317 00:16:26,960 --> 00:16:27,520 Speaker 1: So no. 318 00:16:27,640 --> 00:16:29,200 Speaker 2: But then he was also in the news too because 319 00:16:29,240 --> 00:16:32,120 Speaker 2: John Fetterman was like, oh man, all the Democrats have 320 00:16:32,200 --> 00:16:34,680 Speaker 2: Trump derangement syndrome, you know what I mean, just make 321 00:16:34,760 --> 00:16:38,160 Speaker 2: things impossible to like ever agree with the other side 322 00:16:38,160 --> 00:16:41,600 Speaker 2: on stuff, you know, like Day said it's good if 323 00:16:41,640 --> 00:16:43,840 Speaker 2: like Iran doesn't have a nuclear weapon, and now they're 324 00:16:43,840 --> 00:16:45,800 Speaker 2: all like they're all like upset about it, Like I 325 00:16:45,840 --> 00:16:48,440 Speaker 2: don't even get it just because it's Trump, Like that's 326 00:16:48,480 --> 00:16:51,720 Speaker 2: not why. And also you're a fucking moron. Uh and 327 00:16:51,760 --> 00:16:54,320 Speaker 2: you shouldn't have ever liked damn. 328 00:16:54,400 --> 00:16:55,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, truly the worst. 329 00:16:55,920 --> 00:16:58,640 Speaker 2: But hey this is what we got, folks. So hey, 330 00:16:58,680 --> 00:17:02,680 Speaker 2: Pennsylvania voters, so hopefully there'll be a primary that you can. 331 00:17:02,640 --> 00:17:05,520 Speaker 1: Vote in a truly fucked up story in the New 332 00:17:05,600 --> 00:17:10,240 Speaker 1: York Times. H Yeah, yesterday, the face of the farm 333 00:17:10,280 --> 00:17:13,880 Speaker 1: Workers movement says, our job as has been exposed for 334 00:17:14,200 --> 00:17:19,640 Speaker 1: just a nightmare, if being like a nightmare, if predator, Yeah, 335 00:17:19,840 --> 00:17:23,000 Speaker 1: behind the scenes of history essentially. Yeah. 336 00:17:23,000 --> 00:17:25,960 Speaker 2: It started like like before the New York Times piece 337 00:17:26,000 --> 00:17:28,800 Speaker 2: came out, the United farm Workers like officially made a 338 00:17:28,800 --> 00:17:30,760 Speaker 2: statement saying like, we're not going to be celebrating his 339 00:17:30,840 --> 00:17:34,199 Speaker 2: birthday this year due to some allegations that that have 340 00:17:34,240 --> 00:17:37,360 Speaker 2: come to light, and you're like, oh God. Then the 341 00:17:37,640 --> 00:17:42,520 Speaker 2: New York Times story comes out and it's, oh, Mike, it's. 342 00:17:42,560 --> 00:17:45,000 Speaker 1: Truly like a total predator. 343 00:17:45,040 --> 00:17:49,520 Speaker 2: He was. He groomed and assaulted two minors. And then 344 00:17:49,560 --> 00:17:52,200 Speaker 2: those allegations are made even worse by the revelation that 345 00:17:52,320 --> 00:17:55,760 Speaker 2: he had also assaulted Dolores Werta, who was his longtime 346 00:17:55,840 --> 00:17:59,280 Speaker 2: ally like in the farm workers Movement, and she had 347 00:17:59,320 --> 00:18:04,240 Speaker 2: released her own statement too, saying that he had impregnated 348 00:18:04,280 --> 00:18:08,000 Speaker 2: her twice and she gave those children up for adoption, 349 00:18:08,520 --> 00:18:11,440 Speaker 2: and those were secrets that she had held like basically 350 00:18:11,520 --> 00:18:15,159 Speaker 2: until very recently. She's ninety five years old, and she 351 00:18:15,240 --> 00:18:19,280 Speaker 2: said she held this shit. She just couldn't reveal it 352 00:18:19,680 --> 00:18:24,040 Speaker 2: because she specific was saying she didn't want to expose, 353 00:18:24,160 --> 00:18:26,639 Speaker 2: says oar Chabas. And she hid the truth because she 354 00:18:26,680 --> 00:18:29,760 Speaker 2: didn't want it to negatively impact the movement, right, and 355 00:18:29,800 --> 00:18:33,119 Speaker 2: you're like, my god, and it's just like another just 356 00:18:33,280 --> 00:18:37,199 Speaker 2: grim example of how victims are forced into silence in 357 00:18:37,240 --> 00:18:39,239 Speaker 2: the name of like a greater good or to not 358 00:18:39,280 --> 00:18:44,280 Speaker 2: like quote unquote like ruin things for an admired figure. 359 00:18:45,240 --> 00:18:48,760 Speaker 1: The great Man version, like theory of history where people 360 00:18:48,760 --> 00:18:51,680 Speaker 1: are just like, well, this the reason that we're making 361 00:18:51,720 --> 00:18:54,439 Speaker 1: progress is this one person. Yeah, it's just like no, 362 00:18:54,680 --> 00:18:58,560 Speaker 1: you just need to fucking do the right thing. Yeah, 363 00:18:59,000 --> 00:19:03,240 Speaker 1: like let the truth out and move forward because this 364 00:19:03,400 --> 00:19:07,240 Speaker 1: is so toxic, it's so bad for the movement ultimately, Yeah. 365 00:19:07,000 --> 00:19:09,359 Speaker 2: And knowing, but like I think luckily too, write like 366 00:19:10,359 --> 00:19:15,320 Speaker 2: despite those revelations, people are still understand that far more 367 00:19:15,359 --> 00:19:18,280 Speaker 2: like labor rights are important, you know, and that and 368 00:19:18,320 --> 00:19:21,960 Speaker 2: that movement was much larger than sayser Javas. But again 369 00:19:22,119 --> 00:19:24,480 Speaker 2: he was like sort of like the default that people 370 00:19:24,560 --> 00:19:26,919 Speaker 2: look at like sort of like how you know, like 371 00:19:27,000 --> 00:19:29,120 Speaker 2: with the civil rights movement, people just have a shorthand 372 00:19:29,119 --> 00:19:31,560 Speaker 2: of being like and it was all Martin Luther King junior, right, 373 00:19:31,640 --> 00:19:34,560 Speaker 2: Like he was a very prominent figure, but it took 374 00:19:34,600 --> 00:19:38,320 Speaker 2: the work of millions to get there. And so yeah, 375 00:19:38,680 --> 00:19:40,920 Speaker 2: with this, it's I mean, I I when I was 376 00:19:40,960 --> 00:19:45,679 Speaker 2: working in politics, we worked pretty regularly with Deloresuerta and 377 00:19:45,760 --> 00:19:49,120 Speaker 2: because she's around California politics and things like that, and 378 00:19:49,359 --> 00:19:51,919 Speaker 2: this was I remember there were there were always like 379 00:19:52,000 --> 00:19:55,439 Speaker 2: grumblings about like maybe says her Javas like wasn't like 380 00:19:55,520 --> 00:19:57,560 Speaker 2: as good as people say, But I never, like I 381 00:19:57,600 --> 00:20:01,600 Speaker 2: didn't know the suits that details it. Yeah, and yeah, 382 00:20:01,640 --> 00:20:05,199 Speaker 2: this story is just just gutting. But I think, you know, 383 00:20:05,280 --> 00:20:08,320 Speaker 2: a necessary reckoning for any movement and also for people 384 00:20:08,320 --> 00:20:11,520 Speaker 2: to realize, man like when people end up getting so 385 00:20:11,680 --> 00:20:16,760 Speaker 2: much influence like that, yeah, there's there's always like there's 386 00:20:16,960 --> 00:20:20,840 Speaker 2: a non zero chance of people exploiting that power and 387 00:20:20,960 --> 00:20:22,960 Speaker 2: influence for really dark shit. 388 00:20:23,760 --> 00:20:25,320 Speaker 1: People need to Yeah, And. 389 00:20:25,240 --> 00:20:27,159 Speaker 2: I think also helps it for us to think of 390 00:20:27,160 --> 00:20:29,639 Speaker 2: it as like it's not just one person that is 391 00:20:29,680 --> 00:20:31,240 Speaker 2: a movement, because I think that's just sort of like 392 00:20:31,280 --> 00:20:34,640 Speaker 2: how our popular culture operates is like we like solidate 393 00:20:34,720 --> 00:20:36,240 Speaker 2: everything to like this. 394 00:20:37,080 --> 00:20:39,800 Speaker 1: Face on it. But yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, like that's 395 00:20:39,800 --> 00:20:41,199 Speaker 1: what I mean. We talked about that a lot on 396 00:20:41,200 --> 00:20:45,600 Speaker 1: the icon of thsodes, like the these things that we 397 00:20:46,000 --> 00:20:49,520 Speaker 1: tend to like make sense of history as being these 398 00:20:49,600 --> 00:20:53,399 Speaker 1: like acts by these individual people, and those individual people 399 00:20:53,520 --> 00:20:55,320 Speaker 1: like get tied up. But like a lot of times 400 00:20:55,400 --> 00:21:01,000 Speaker 1: they're part of some larger movement in history that uh, 401 00:21:01,119 --> 00:21:03,919 Speaker 1: you know, they just happened to be there at the 402 00:21:04,000 --> 00:21:07,119 Speaker 1: time to take advantage of like what what that movement is. 403 00:21:08,080 --> 00:21:10,879 Speaker 1: But like you know, the way we understand things is 404 00:21:10,920 --> 00:21:14,439 Speaker 1: through stories, and stories have like individual characters, and so 405 00:21:15,160 --> 00:21:19,879 Speaker 1: that's it's like caused by the reliance on the character 406 00:21:20,000 --> 00:21:24,320 Speaker 1: driven version of history is just like how our brain works. Yeah, unfortunately, 407 00:21:24,440 --> 00:21:28,800 Speaker 1: but yeah it's does it does lead to horrible shit 408 00:21:28,920 --> 00:21:32,560 Speaker 1: like this and you know dictators and yeah, a lot 409 00:21:32,560 --> 00:21:33,959 Speaker 1: of a lot of the shit that's happening. 410 00:21:34,200 --> 00:21:37,439 Speaker 2: Yeah, so many movements you see, Like you know, just 411 00:21:37,480 --> 00:21:40,600 Speaker 2: like even like like yoga practitioners, like there's a good 412 00:21:40,600 --> 00:21:42,959 Speaker 2: thing when like one person is sort of seen is 413 00:21:43,000 --> 00:21:47,120 Speaker 2: like the ultimate power or authority on something, it can 414 00:21:47,160 --> 00:21:49,400 Speaker 2: be turned into something really fucking dark. 415 00:21:49,440 --> 00:21:52,240 Speaker 1: But yeah, a lot of times with men, Yeah, like 416 00:21:52,320 --> 00:21:54,639 Speaker 1: if it's like when the men are the leaders and 417 00:21:54,680 --> 00:21:57,680 Speaker 1: then they're just allowed to do whatever the fuck they want. 418 00:21:58,640 --> 00:22:02,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's yeah, But like again, like I said this, 419 00:22:04,040 --> 00:22:08,320 Speaker 2: like if this was like someone on the right, I'm 420 00:22:08,320 --> 00:22:10,920 Speaker 2: wondering how this would be received, you know what I mean? 421 00:22:11,200 --> 00:22:14,639 Speaker 1: Yeah, like if they're like these people are liars or whatever. 422 00:22:14,880 --> 00:22:18,720 Speaker 2: Like, but again, this is like something the Republicans don't 423 00:22:18,720 --> 00:22:21,520 Speaker 2: could give a fuck about labor rights, especially people who 424 00:22:21,760 --> 00:22:22,840 Speaker 2: are working on farms. 425 00:22:23,160 --> 00:22:26,119 Speaker 1: We've seen how it was received when one of their 426 00:22:26,160 --> 00:22:31,080 Speaker 1: Supreme Court nominees was pretty evidently, right, pretty very credibly 427 00:22:31,119 --> 00:22:37,640 Speaker 1: accused of conduct that is illegal and predatory, and in 428 00:22:37,680 --> 00:22:40,560 Speaker 1: the moment when they had the opportunity to, they like 429 00:22:40,680 --> 00:22:44,240 Speaker 1: made it a national reckoning on like cancel culture instead 430 00:22:44,240 --> 00:22:47,800 Speaker 1: of yeah all right, real quick wanted to talk about 431 00:22:47,840 --> 00:22:51,000 Speaker 1: what Forbes is hailing as the start of a new 432 00:22:51,080 --> 00:22:52,919 Speaker 1: era in property management. 433 00:22:53,040 --> 00:22:56,000 Speaker 3: Oh my god, that's just the most frightening statement. The 434 00:22:56,040 --> 00:22:59,000 Speaker 3: start of a new era in property management. Oh that's 435 00:23:00,200 --> 00:23:03,879 Speaker 3: miss Oh hell, yeah, I know this is going to 436 00:23:03,920 --> 00:23:08,080 Speaker 3: be good. It's called real estate tokenization. It's when real 437 00:23:08,200 --> 00:23:12,920 Speaker 3: estate gets bought up by investors, yeah, by token minority, 438 00:23:13,480 --> 00:23:16,800 Speaker 3: divided into tokens which are distributed to said investors. 439 00:23:17,000 --> 00:23:19,679 Speaker 2: It's been like that art thing too, whereas they're like 440 00:23:19,760 --> 00:23:22,040 Speaker 2: you can own a fract you can have a fraction 441 00:23:22,480 --> 00:23:24,600 Speaker 2: fraction fractional ownership. 442 00:23:25,119 --> 00:23:27,360 Speaker 1: Yes, so it's a it's like that. I mean, it's 443 00:23:27,680 --> 00:23:31,639 Speaker 1: they turn everything that money is supposed to like help 444 00:23:32,160 --> 00:23:37,960 Speaker 1: drive into abstractions. So suddenly it's just easy to This 445 00:23:38,119 --> 00:23:41,400 Speaker 1: is always beneficial to the people who are in control 446 00:23:41,480 --> 00:23:44,600 Speaker 1: because this as you like abstract it more and more, 447 00:23:45,240 --> 00:23:48,959 Speaker 1: it gets more and more distant from the actual value. 448 00:23:49,280 --> 00:23:51,720 Speaker 1: You know, the thing is like this in this case, 449 00:23:51,720 --> 00:23:54,320 Speaker 1: it's like, this is a house that I want to 450 00:23:54,359 --> 00:23:56,439 Speaker 1: live in if it can be a good place to 451 00:23:56,800 --> 00:23:59,800 Speaker 1: raise a family, So that is the value to me, 452 00:24:00,280 --> 00:24:03,600 Speaker 1: and therefore I am giving you money for that. Like 453 00:24:03,640 --> 00:24:06,960 Speaker 1: it's a pretty straightforward exchange, right, But instead they like 454 00:24:07,040 --> 00:24:10,760 Speaker 1: do this massive like active abstractions. So there's like you know, 455 00:24:11,080 --> 00:24:15,919 Speaker 1: three layers of bureaucracy and like financial like people taking 456 00:24:15,920 --> 00:24:18,480 Speaker 1: a cut in between the person who is getting the 457 00:24:18,520 --> 00:24:21,000 Speaker 1: value from the real estate and the person who's like 458 00:24:21,040 --> 00:24:23,520 Speaker 1: putting up the money and it. You know, this is 459 00:24:23,800 --> 00:24:27,960 Speaker 1: how you end up with the you know, subprime mortgage fiasco, 460 00:24:28,320 --> 00:24:31,080 Speaker 1: like the which like basically drove us into a depression 461 00:24:31,160 --> 00:24:36,520 Speaker 1: that again only people like felt not the billionaires and 462 00:24:36,560 --> 00:24:40,720 Speaker 1: the financial institutions like they somehow managed to not feel 463 00:24:40,720 --> 00:24:44,800 Speaker 1: it by getting bailed out. But again, every time there's 464 00:24:44,920 --> 00:24:49,639 Speaker 1: like increasing abstraction, it allows them to be insulated from consequences. 465 00:24:50,160 --> 00:24:52,679 Speaker 1: And you're seeing it on like a massive level with 466 00:24:53,040 --> 00:24:56,120 Speaker 1: the stock market not even really taking a dip when 467 00:24:56,400 --> 00:25:00,399 Speaker 1: everybody is going through what is essentially a depression or session. 468 00:25:00,960 --> 00:25:04,120 Speaker 1: But you're also seeing it in these like specific instances 469 00:25:04,400 --> 00:25:10,040 Speaker 1: where so this company real T real T properties are 470 00:25:10,119 --> 00:25:15,760 Speaker 1: concentrated are E A L and then Capital T real T. Yeah, yeah, exactly. 471 00:25:16,880 --> 00:25:20,840 Speaker 1: Here's the it also sounds here's the real T looks 472 00:25:20,920 --> 00:25:24,520 Speaker 1: that's right, And the real ty is that they're buying 473 00:25:24,600 --> 00:25:28,480 Speaker 1: up properties and predominantly black neighborhoods in the east and 474 00:25:28,520 --> 00:25:33,879 Speaker 1: west of Detroit. It's just these two Canadian brothers whose 475 00:25:33,920 --> 00:25:37,639 Speaker 1: family fortune is a bit mysterious. But that's another story 476 00:25:37,640 --> 00:25:38,280 Speaker 1: for another time. 477 00:25:38,440 --> 00:25:41,600 Speaker 2: Let me guess their grandfather invented the collar, invented the. 478 00:25:41,520 --> 00:25:46,600 Speaker 1: Collar on a shirt. That's still much such a dumb fuck. 479 00:25:46,920 --> 00:25:50,480 Speaker 2: Gen Z gen Alpha Lie, I think you like invented 480 00:25:50,480 --> 00:25:52,760 Speaker 2: the collar whatever, I think I have to beat the 481 00:25:52,760 --> 00:25:55,320 Speaker 2: shit out of you for saying that seriously in public. 482 00:25:55,359 --> 00:25:58,760 Speaker 1: Fool invented the caller. No, hell, no, man, I believe 483 00:25:58,800 --> 00:25:59,680 Speaker 1: you get your ass kicked. 484 00:26:00,000 --> 00:26:01,480 Speaker 2: I had been to this, My grandpa had went to 485 00:26:01,520 --> 00:26:04,920 Speaker 2: the steering wheel. Yeah, yeah, is that right. 486 00:26:05,560 --> 00:26:09,880 Speaker 1: But it wasn't long before Realty illustrated that the only 487 00:26:09,920 --> 00:26:13,640 Speaker 1: thing worse than a landlord is thousands of anonymous landlords. 488 00:26:14,600 --> 00:26:18,080 Speaker 1: Last year, Detroit's Outlier Media reported that Realty had done 489 00:26:18,080 --> 00:26:21,280 Speaker 1: little to no repair work on their rental properties. Many 490 00:26:21,359 --> 00:26:24,280 Speaker 1: tenants didn't have leases, some didn't even know who to 491 00:26:24,359 --> 00:26:28,040 Speaker 1: pay rent to. But that didn't stop the company from 492 00:26:28,280 --> 00:26:31,239 Speaker 1: threatening evictions. Of course, it's their favorite thing to do. 493 00:26:32,960 --> 00:26:35,840 Speaker 1: And yeah, they just so. 494 00:26:35,880 --> 00:26:38,919 Speaker 2: Like, what great great ownership scheme you have here. So 495 00:26:39,119 --> 00:26:42,920 Speaker 2: a thousands of people own a property, but no one's 496 00:26:42,960 --> 00:26:47,399 Speaker 2: in charge because you're like crypto style of okenizing everything. 497 00:26:47,440 --> 00:26:51,399 Speaker 1: Yeah exactly. So there's just no infrastructure, Like they don't 498 00:26:51,440 --> 00:26:54,760 Speaker 1: spend money on any of the things that it's like 499 00:26:54,840 --> 00:26:59,960 Speaker 1: the entire tech crypto economy where they just like shove 500 00:27:00,160 --> 00:27:03,440 Speaker 1: money at a thing and just say, and what we're 501 00:27:03,440 --> 00:27:06,440 Speaker 1: gonna do is we're gonna simplify this process. We're gonna 502 00:27:06,440 --> 00:27:09,000 Speaker 1: make it more streamlined. And what that means is just 503 00:27:09,040 --> 00:27:11,280 Speaker 1: like not having staff to do any of the things 504 00:27:11,320 --> 00:27:13,360 Speaker 1: that need to get done right right right. 505 00:27:13,760 --> 00:27:17,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, have they been sued? Are people? I'm guessing they're getting. 506 00:27:16,880 --> 00:27:20,960 Speaker 1: Sued on some level. Yeah, they're getting sued, But they're 507 00:27:21,000 --> 00:27:25,760 Speaker 1: also still trying to make it seem like they have 508 00:27:25,960 --> 00:27:29,840 Speaker 1: things going like on the on the financial side, Like 509 00:27:29,920 --> 00:27:33,440 Speaker 1: they have an investor who just like offered to buy 510 00:27:33,480 --> 00:27:35,679 Speaker 1: a big chunk of the company, and then it was 511 00:27:35,720 --> 00:27:39,520 Speaker 1: revealed that that investor was then Jesus in their. 512 00:27:39,560 --> 00:27:41,159 Speaker 2: So this is just a fucking run. This is just 513 00:27:41,200 --> 00:27:43,800 Speaker 2: another rug pull for people. Yeah, I'm sure what they 514 00:27:43,800 --> 00:27:45,560 Speaker 2: can do. It's sort of like with what Logan Paul 515 00:27:45,600 --> 00:27:48,959 Speaker 2: did with his Pokemon card, because he had that insanely 516 00:27:49,040 --> 00:27:52,280 Speaker 2: expensive Pokemon card that people could buy fractional ownership of. 517 00:27:52,359 --> 00:27:54,719 Speaker 2: He's like, I got fifty one percent, but y'all can 518 00:27:54,760 --> 00:27:57,240 Speaker 2: buy the other forty nine percent, and he just like 519 00:27:57,359 --> 00:28:00,760 Speaker 2: quickly bought them out and then made all the profits 520 00:28:00,760 --> 00:28:04,439 Speaker 2: from set like auctioning off this card, right, which I 521 00:28:04,480 --> 00:28:06,879 Speaker 2: can imagine that's a really quick way to sort of 522 00:28:06,960 --> 00:28:10,040 Speaker 2: cheat your way into like a small real estate empire, 523 00:28:10,760 --> 00:28:12,199 Speaker 2: is to get a bunch like you can raise the 524 00:28:12,200 --> 00:28:15,280 Speaker 2: capital through this like fractional ownership and then be like, 525 00:28:15,320 --> 00:28:17,120 Speaker 2: all right, you got your money back. It's actually worth 526 00:28:17,119 --> 00:28:19,520 Speaker 2: a little bit more, but now I've got it, thank you. Sorry. 527 00:28:19,840 --> 00:28:21,000 Speaker 2: Realty is now closed. 528 00:28:21,320 --> 00:28:24,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, and there obviously there are like very real consequences 529 00:28:24,640 --> 00:28:27,200 Speaker 1: in this case. In February twenty twenty five, city building 530 00:28:27,200 --> 00:28:31,399 Speaker 1: inspectors warned Realty about an apartment complex that had a 531 00:28:31,400 --> 00:28:34,800 Speaker 1: complete lack of smoke detectors, emergency lighting, and fire doors. 532 00:28:35,280 --> 00:28:38,080 Speaker 1: The next month, a fire tour through the building. It 533 00:28:38,120 --> 00:28:41,600 Speaker 1: doesn't seem like people died, but just you know, incredibly 534 00:28:41,680 --> 00:28:43,800 Speaker 1: dangerous to have like this sort of thing in the 535 00:28:43,840 --> 00:28:46,800 Speaker 1: hands of people who are just like doing yeah crypto 536 00:28:47,040 --> 00:28:48,880 Speaker 1: rugpool essentially. 537 00:28:48,720 --> 00:28:51,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, and something like it's one thing if you bought 538 00:28:51,240 --> 00:28:55,560 Speaker 2: a fucking little paper square trading card, but a fucking 539 00:28:55,680 --> 00:28:59,080 Speaker 2: house that someone lives in like where they're at risk 540 00:28:59,120 --> 00:29:00,920 Speaker 2: of fucking death because you're just. 541 00:29:00,880 --> 00:29:03,040 Speaker 1: Like, yeah, dude, I don't like on like a half 542 00:29:03,040 --> 00:29:05,280 Speaker 1: a percent of this flophouse. 543 00:29:05,160 --> 00:29:08,920 Speaker 2: Right, just like that that's so fucking dangerous and I can't. 544 00:29:09,000 --> 00:29:11,680 Speaker 2: I mean, I'm like, there's got to be better regulation 545 00:29:11,760 --> 00:29:13,240 Speaker 2: of this. And I'm like, myles, where the fuck do 546 00:29:13,240 --> 00:29:16,680 Speaker 2: you think you are? Motherfucker regulation? The fuck you better 547 00:29:16,720 --> 00:29:20,960 Speaker 2: call Nate Dog and Warren g the only place you're 548 00:29:20,920 --> 00:29:22,200 Speaker 2: going to see anybody regulate. 549 00:29:22,760 --> 00:29:26,640 Speaker 1: But yeah, the city has alleged that property neglect is 550 00:29:26,680 --> 00:29:28,600 Speaker 1: built into the company's model. 551 00:29:28,920 --> 00:29:31,280 Speaker 2: Is that sort of like how like the you know, 552 00:29:31,320 --> 00:29:33,880 Speaker 2: like companies like, yeah, I mean like we take risk. 553 00:29:33,960 --> 00:29:35,760 Speaker 2: We know we're probably going to break a couple eggs, 554 00:29:35,800 --> 00:29:38,480 Speaker 2: people get killed, and we'll be able to well, we'll 555 00:29:38,520 --> 00:29:39,680 Speaker 2: handle the legal cost of that. 556 00:29:39,760 --> 00:29:40,600 Speaker 1: We're good on the side. 557 00:29:40,720 --> 00:29:42,640 Speaker 2: Built in, it's built in exactly. 558 00:29:42,720 --> 00:29:46,920 Speaker 1: They build a model where they're like, so we've realized 559 00:29:47,040 --> 00:29:51,560 Speaker 1: that we would need to recall three thousand of these 560 00:29:51,640 --> 00:29:54,760 Speaker 1: vehicles in order for people not to die, and that 561 00:29:54,760 --> 00:29:58,680 Speaker 1: that would cost us two billion dollars or the like, 562 00:29:58,720 --> 00:30:00,480 Speaker 1: a handful of people are gonna die, I will get 563 00:30:00,480 --> 00:30:03,160 Speaker 1: sued and that would likely cost us one point five 564 00:30:03,160 --> 00:30:06,320 Speaker 1: billion dollars. Uh, and therefore we are not going to 565 00:30:06,360 --> 00:30:09,200 Speaker 1: issue the recall. Is the thing that has happened in 566 00:30:09,240 --> 00:30:12,880 Speaker 1: the automotive industry. The book The Corporation is worth reading 567 00:30:13,120 --> 00:30:13,560 Speaker 1: as if. 568 00:30:13,480 --> 00:30:16,200 Speaker 2: We needed more evidence that housing is a human right 569 00:30:16,200 --> 00:30:20,200 Speaker 2: and not some fucking dumb shit commodity to fuck around 570 00:30:20,240 --> 00:30:22,480 Speaker 2: with and invest in. Yeah, because at the end of 571 00:30:22,520 --> 00:30:25,280 Speaker 2: the day, like what I'm reading, the people who was 572 00:30:25,360 --> 00:30:27,400 Speaker 2: living in one of these buildings, they'd have fucking heat 573 00:30:27,480 --> 00:30:28,200 Speaker 2: for years. 574 00:30:28,640 --> 00:30:34,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, no heat for years, rotting stairs, flooded basements, and 575 00:30:34,680 --> 00:30:40,200 Speaker 1: people are just having to survive. Like you know, trying 576 00:30:40,280 --> 00:30:42,880 Speaker 1: to get like a landlord to fix anything in an 577 00:30:42,920 --> 00:30:46,160 Speaker 1: apartment is already a fucking nightmare having to do it 578 00:30:46,200 --> 00:30:50,040 Speaker 1: when you're building is owned by like a thousand people, 579 00:30:50,520 --> 00:30:54,440 Speaker 1: like from other countries, it's probably Yeah. 580 00:30:54,520 --> 00:30:57,080 Speaker 2: I mean, I think these are important questions that should 581 00:30:57,120 --> 00:30:59,560 Speaker 2: be asked of people seeking office, especially if you're a 582 00:30:59,600 --> 00:31:02,280 Speaker 2: Democrat are on the left, is like, what's your take 583 00:31:02,320 --> 00:31:04,440 Speaker 2: on housing? Because I think that's another thing people would 584 00:31:04,520 --> 00:31:08,280 Speaker 2: quickly reveal themselves to be such landlord boot liquors, right, 585 00:31:08,280 --> 00:31:10,520 Speaker 2: you know, like even if you're for all the people 586 00:31:10,520 --> 00:31:13,000 Speaker 2: that love Gavin Newsom, this guy isn't gonna he's gonna 587 00:31:13,000 --> 00:31:15,760 Speaker 2: do fuck all to make housing more important. And I 588 00:31:15,760 --> 00:31:18,280 Speaker 2: think that energy that Zaran had, which is sort of like, man, 589 00:31:18,320 --> 00:31:21,560 Speaker 2: fuck these landlords. Guess what everyone's like, that's what the 590 00:31:21,600 --> 00:31:25,080 Speaker 2: fuck I'm talking about exactly exactly. But again, if you 591 00:31:25,120 --> 00:31:28,160 Speaker 2: all your homies are landlords. Then they basically say like 592 00:31:28,280 --> 00:31:31,280 Speaker 2: fuck all my homies, yeah, and then your homies and like, 593 00:31:31,280 --> 00:31:32,400 Speaker 2: what the fuck are you talking about? 594 00:31:32,440 --> 00:31:32,560 Speaker 3: Bro? 595 00:31:33,240 --> 00:31:36,840 Speaker 1: They know, like they're spending their money, like landlords are 596 00:31:36,840 --> 00:31:40,760 Speaker 1: spending their money to get like relationships and access to 597 00:31:40,920 --> 00:31:43,880 Speaker 1: Gavin Newsom. You know they're smart, gay wrint of Google. 598 00:31:43,920 --> 00:31:46,640 Speaker 2: He just dropped forty five million dollars to fight this 599 00:31:47,080 --> 00:31:52,760 Speaker 2: billionaire tax thing. Forty five million dollars on top of 600 00:31:52,840 --> 00:31:56,240 Speaker 2: the janky signature gathering operation that was exposed recently. 601 00:31:56,840 --> 00:31:59,880 Speaker 1: It's currently like forty eight to forty seven percent, like 602 00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:04,320 Speaker 1: the latest polling. Like it's basically they're doing shockingly well. 603 00:32:05,000 --> 00:32:11,000 Speaker 1: The anti billionaire tax people are doing shockingly well in California. 604 00:32:10,440 --> 00:32:13,120 Speaker 2: Because they're just I mean, they're all they're gonna do 605 00:32:13,160 --> 00:32:15,360 Speaker 2: is some kind of price thing. It's like it's gonna 606 00:32:15,480 --> 00:32:18,880 Speaker 2: you thought shoot was bad, now yeah, wait till the 607 00:32:18,920 --> 00:32:24,320 Speaker 2: billies leave and everything's gonna get all expensive. Sure, everyone, 608 00:32:24,400 --> 00:32:27,800 Speaker 2: if you live in California, text uh five of your 609 00:32:27,880 --> 00:32:30,880 Speaker 2: normy friends and just be like you're down to tax 610 00:32:30,960 --> 00:32:33,280 Speaker 2: the fuck out of the billionaires, right right, right? 611 00:32:34,480 --> 00:32:38,800 Speaker 1: Please? Yeah? Like, just I want to hear one argument 612 00:32:38,840 --> 00:32:41,280 Speaker 1: that I can even understand for not doing that. They're 613 00:32:41,360 --> 00:32:43,160 Speaker 1: just gonna be like they're they're going to move away. 614 00:32:43,680 --> 00:32:46,880 Speaker 1: It's like, no, they're not. Yeah, they always threaten to 615 00:32:46,960 --> 00:32:49,840 Speaker 1: do that, and we'll be fine. And if they move 616 00:32:49,880 --> 00:32:54,840 Speaker 1: away and stop, uh you know, influencing the local governments 617 00:32:55,200 --> 00:32:59,800 Speaker 1: in our state, that's good. Yeah, yeah, that's good for you. 618 00:32:59,800 --> 00:33:02,800 Speaker 1: You So wait, this is this is my question. Are 619 00:33:02,840 --> 00:33:05,960 Speaker 1: you Are you a billionaire? Oh you are? Yeah, you're right, 620 00:33:06,000 --> 00:33:08,280 Speaker 1: this will be bad for you. Are you a billionaire? 621 00:33:08,280 --> 00:33:11,440 Speaker 1: Oh you're not. This is going to be fine. Largely 622 00:33:11,480 --> 00:33:14,320 Speaker 1: it's going to be better for you because billionaires are 623 00:33:14,400 --> 00:33:20,360 Speaker 1: massively influential. They're like these giant gravitational forces in any civilization, 624 00:33:21,560 --> 00:33:24,760 Speaker 1: and they, first of all, shouldn't exist in any civilization. 625 00:33:24,880 --> 00:33:28,840 Speaker 1: But as America currently operates, they will impact things. And 626 00:33:28,880 --> 00:33:31,120 Speaker 1: the only thing they give a fuck about impacting is 627 00:33:31,600 --> 00:33:34,680 Speaker 1: like helping them acquire more assets. 628 00:33:34,800 --> 00:33:38,560 Speaker 2: Yeah so yeah, I mean, like right now, like it's 629 00:33:38,560 --> 00:33:41,920 Speaker 2: funny like Fortune dot Com because obviously they're the side 630 00:33:41,960 --> 00:33:45,640 Speaker 2: with them. Their headline is only six billionaires left California 631 00:33:45,640 --> 00:33:49,360 Speaker 2: over its proposed wealth tax, but they took twenty seven 632 00:33:49,480 --> 00:33:52,080 Speaker 2: billion dollars in potential revenue with. 633 00:33:52,160 --> 00:33:58,040 Speaker 1: Them, potential, potential out of here s. It's very potential. Anyways, 634 00:33:58,400 --> 00:34:01,200 Speaker 1: that is going to do it for us this Thursday afternoon. 635 00:34:01,280 --> 00:34:04,120 Speaker 1: We are back tomorrow with the whole last episode of 636 00:34:04,200 --> 00:34:06,960 Speaker 1: the show. Until then, be kind to each other, be 637 00:34:07,040 --> 00:34:09,719 Speaker 1: kind to yourselves, get your vaccines where you still can't 638 00:34:09,719 --> 00:34:12,520 Speaker 1: get your flu shots, don't do nothing about white supremacy, 639 00:34:12,560 --> 00:34:15,360 Speaker 1: and we will talk to you all tomorrow. Bye bye. 640 00:34:15,960 --> 00:34:19,120 Speaker 2: The Daily Zeitgeist as executive produced by Catherine Law, co 641 00:34:19,200 --> 00:34:23,120 Speaker 2: produced by Bebe Wayne, co produced by Victor Wright. 642 00:34:23,200 --> 00:34:26,920 Speaker 1: Co written by j M McNab, and edited and engineered 643 00:34:26,960 --> 00:34:28,000 Speaker 1: by Brian Jeffries.