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Speaker 1: Hey, Hurdlers, Emily, A body here coming at you with

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Speaker 1: episode seventy seven of Hurdle, a podcast that talks to

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Speaker 1: everyone from entrepreneurs to top CEOs and athletes about how

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Speaker 1: they've gotten through tough times hurdles of sorts by leaning

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Speaker 1: in to wellness. Today, I am sitting down with Harley Pastrnak.

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Speaker 1: He is well known as a celebrity trainer, working with

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Speaker 1: everyone in his past from Halle Berry to Ariana Grande.

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Speaker 1: But the man wears many hats, which we will get

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Speaker 1: into in just a little bit. This is fun because

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Speaker 1: I've had the opportunity to chat with Harley so many

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Speaker 1: times now. I've known the guy for years. He is

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Speaker 1: We've sat down everywhere from the Coachella Valley to Hong Kong,

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Speaker 1: No code necessary, all right, Harley Pasternak. In today's episode,

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Speaker 1: he talks to me about how he got to where

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Speaker 1: he is today, traveling the world, building gyms for the

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Speaker 1: four seasons and working with some of the biggest names

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Speaker 1: him changing his major. We also talk about something that

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Speaker 1: he really struggled with until recently, and that is an

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Speaker 1: addiction to sugar. Growing up in a home with two

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Speaker 1: he had a hurdle moment of sorts when he walked

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Speaker 1: one today, it's interesting and that it's one of those

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Speaker 1: to deal with. But Harley knew, being this guy that

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Speaker 1: sweet Kick that he's bringing to market to help people

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Speaker 1: really smart guy and there are a lot of really

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Speaker 1: helpful takeaways in this episode. You know the Drill at

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Speaker 1: I'm sitting here with Harley Pasternak. Harley is I can

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Speaker 1: selling author, he's a nutrition expert. He's a global fitness

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Speaker 1: Right now, I'm very lucky to be joining you inside

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Speaker 2: Very ripped you. That was I used to train with

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Speaker 1: m Okay, So you have your first you open these

433
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Speaker 1: spaces and different condos. Those are your first things.

434
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Speaker 2: Yeah, those are my first things condos?

435
00:21:57,520 --> 00:21:59,040
Speaker 1: Correct, Because where are you at this time?

436
00:22:00,080 --> 00:22:03,560
Speaker 2: Toronto? Actually, And so what happened then was one of

437
00:22:03,600 --> 00:22:07,840
Speaker 2: the largest exercise equipment companies had asked me to there

438
00:22:07,880 --> 00:22:09,679
Speaker 2: was a trade show in Toronto and said can you

439
00:22:09,800 --> 00:22:12,360
Speaker 2: work the trade show for us at the booth at

440
00:22:12,400 --> 00:22:15,120
Speaker 2: the time and helped demonstrate some exercises. And so I did,

441
00:22:15,160 --> 00:22:17,000
Speaker 2: and the owners of the company were there and I

442
00:22:17,000 --> 00:22:19,400
Speaker 2: made some suggestions on how they should modify their equipment

443
00:22:19,440 --> 00:22:21,480
Speaker 2: and I have an idea for a new piece of equipment.

444
00:22:21,480 --> 00:22:23,719
Speaker 2: And they were great, and one ended up becoming one

445
00:22:23,760 --> 00:22:26,719
Speaker 2: of my best friends till to this day. And I

446
00:22:26,760 --> 00:22:29,320
Speaker 2: worked with them on helping modify and design some new

447
00:22:29,320 --> 00:22:31,000
Speaker 2: equipment and one of them is kind of a standard

448
00:22:31,040 --> 00:22:33,200
Speaker 2: piece of equipment in every single gym in the world now.

449
00:22:33,359 --> 00:22:36,720
Speaker 2: It's called a dual cable police system and everyone makes them.

450
00:22:37,080 --> 00:22:39,840
Speaker 2: And so I helped them innovate that and launch that,

451
00:22:40,160 --> 00:22:46,199
Speaker 2: and so then helping design the equipment segued into designing facilities.

452
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Speaker 1: Got it, And so then where do you find who's

453
00:22:49,560 --> 00:22:51,880
Speaker 1: the first a lister that you start to work with.

454
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Speaker 2: At the same time, I started with Jim Cavesl who

455
00:22:58,640 --> 00:23:00,960
Speaker 2: played Jesus in the past, but before that I trained

456
00:23:01,000 --> 00:23:03,840
Speaker 2: him on Angel Eyes with a young actress named Jennifer.

457
00:23:03,480 --> 00:23:05,399
Speaker 1: Lopez, a young Jennifer Lovin.

458
00:23:05,520 --> 00:23:09,240
Speaker 2: She wasn't Ja Loo, she was Jennifer Lopez. And I

459
00:23:09,280 --> 00:23:11,080
Speaker 2: think that was Terrence Howard's first movie. And at the

460
00:23:11,080 --> 00:23:14,800
Speaker 2: same time I worked on Cold Creek Manor with Stephen Dorf,

461
00:23:15,280 --> 00:23:21,200
Speaker 2: Juliet Lewis, Dennis Quaid, and that was very early on.

462
00:23:21,280 --> 00:23:23,600
Speaker 2: And at the very same time, right after that, I

463
00:23:23,640 --> 00:23:29,000
Speaker 2: worked with Emmanuel Shrieky and Eliza Douchku on a movie

464
00:23:29,520 --> 00:23:32,119
Speaker 2: called The Wrong Turn, a really bad horror film. So

465
00:23:32,160 --> 00:23:35,760
Speaker 2: those were a long time ago. I worked on a

466
00:23:35,760 --> 00:23:40,560
Speaker 2: bunch of really bad films and then got a call

467
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Speaker 2: can I come to Montreal and train Halle Berry and

468
00:23:43,880 --> 00:23:45,760
Speaker 2: Robert Downey Jr. He just got led out of jail.

469
00:23:45,920 --> 00:23:49,960
Speaker 2: It's his first film back Penelope Cruz on Gothica. And

470
00:23:50,359 --> 00:23:51,960
Speaker 2: they had nowhere to put me at, to pay my

471
00:23:52,040 --> 00:23:55,840
Speaker 2: own place, to stay, my own everything. Back then, cell

472
00:23:55,840 --> 00:23:58,199
Speaker 2: phones were expensive if you left your city, I have

473
00:23:58,240 --> 00:23:59,600
Speaker 2: to pay my own cell phone. That was the most

474
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Speaker 2: expensive sport.

475
00:24:00,320 --> 00:24:01,640
Speaker 1: They're still expensive, man.

476
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Speaker 2: They're still expensive. And I left what I was doing.

477
00:24:05,680 --> 00:24:07,600
Speaker 2: I was working my PhD. And I just said, I'm

478
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Speaker 2: going to take a leave and I'll finish my masters

479
00:24:09,680 --> 00:24:13,720
Speaker 2: and I'll come back to this. But it was an

480
00:24:13,760 --> 00:24:16,240
Speaker 2: amazing experience to be in Montreal and training Hallie and

481
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Speaker 2: Robert Downey, who's just an incredibly brilliant person. And while

482
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Speaker 2: I was there, l cool J and Raleio to ask

483
00:24:23,960 --> 00:24:26,800
Speaker 2: me to train them on another project. And then Miladjovovich

484
00:24:26,880 --> 00:24:28,600
Speaker 2: was doing Resident Evil and I had to fly back

485
00:24:28,640 --> 00:24:31,480
Speaker 2: and forth to la and Rachel Weiss was doing Constantine

486
00:24:31,480 --> 00:24:33,000
Speaker 2: and I flew back and forth for her. And next

487
00:24:33,000 --> 00:24:36,760
Speaker 2: thing you know, I had this robust celebrity training business

488
00:24:37,040 --> 00:24:40,439
Speaker 2: in multiple cities, and I said, I guess this is

489
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Speaker 2: my path.

490
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Speaker 1: Were you scared when you took that first trip to

491
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Speaker 1: Montreal and did anyone give you interesting feedback? I mean

492
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Speaker 1: you were, like you said, putting your PhD on hold.

493
00:24:50,880 --> 00:24:54,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I took a big chance. First all. I

494
00:24:54,040 --> 00:24:56,760
Speaker 2: hated school at that point. I mean I was in

495
00:24:56,800 --> 00:25:00,159
Speaker 2: the laboratory every single day. And my graduate supervisors one

496
00:25:00,200 --> 00:25:02,600
Speaker 2: of the most brilliant exercise scientists in the history of

497
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Speaker 2: the field, doctor Aert Jacobs, and he did his doctorate

498
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Speaker 2: at Ketalinska Institute in Stockholm, Sweden, and he coined the

499
00:25:08,680 --> 00:25:11,119
Speaker 2: term oh blood on set of blood lactic I mean,

500
00:25:11,119 --> 00:25:12,960
Speaker 2: he's just a genius, so to work under him was

501
00:25:13,000 --> 00:25:16,560
Speaker 2: a once in a lifetime opportunity. But even he identified

502
00:25:16,560 --> 00:25:20,280
Speaker 2: that my gift was more in educating people and taking

503
00:25:20,320 --> 00:25:23,760
Speaker 2: complex scientific terms and making them more colloquial. I wasn't

504
00:25:23,800 --> 00:25:25,520
Speaker 2: meant to be in a lab. He said, you've broken

505
00:25:25,560 --> 00:25:28,639
Speaker 2: so much equipment here. You know, we have an NMR

506
00:25:28,680 --> 00:25:31,280
Speaker 2: spectroscity machine which is a million dollars and somehow I

507
00:25:31,320 --> 00:25:34,440
Speaker 2: managed to get food in it. And he said, I

508
00:25:34,480 --> 00:25:36,200
Speaker 2: think this is your calling. So I don't know whether

509
00:25:36,200 --> 00:25:39,480
Speaker 2: that was him firing me or not, but he said

510
00:25:39,560 --> 00:25:42,639
Speaker 2: this is your calling. So I went, and then the

511
00:25:42,680 --> 00:25:44,800
Speaker 2: first workout with Hallie, she said, listen, I'm excited to

512
00:25:44,840 --> 00:25:47,080
Speaker 2: work with you on this film, but I have to

513
00:25:47,080 --> 00:25:48,840
Speaker 2: tell You've had the same trainer for twelve years in

514
00:25:48,920 --> 00:25:50,320
Speaker 2: La I love him and I'll be going back to

515
00:25:50,400 --> 00:25:51,720
Speaker 2: him when this film is done, so I don't want

516
00:25:51,720 --> 00:25:54,639
Speaker 2: to mislead you. I said, great, I'll enjoy our time together.

517
00:25:55,080 --> 00:25:57,560
Speaker 2: And after the third workout, she said, would you please

518
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Speaker 2: move to Los Angeles and get me ready for Catwoman?

519
00:26:00,720 --> 00:26:03,760
Speaker 2: And we started training for Catwoman and next thing you know,

520
00:26:03,840 --> 00:26:06,680
Speaker 2: she called me and she's like, Oprah's here. She wants

521
00:26:06,760 --> 00:26:08,680
Speaker 2: to talk to you, just.

522
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Speaker 1: A casual phone call for Oprah.

523
00:26:10,800 --> 00:26:15,640
Speaker 2: And I said, Hi, that hello Oprah? I remember, yeah,

524
00:26:15,720 --> 00:26:18,320
Speaker 2: And she was the biggest person in the world, literally

525
00:26:18,359 --> 00:26:20,600
Speaker 2: the most famous person in the world. And she says,

526
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Speaker 2: what are you doing with Halle? Are you starving here?

527
00:26:22,680 --> 00:26:24,560
Speaker 2: I said, no, she's eating five times a day. Halle

528
00:26:24,640 --> 00:26:27,240
Speaker 2: has diabetes and that's you know, would never starve her.

529
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Speaker 2: And she says, well, you know, are you in the

530
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Speaker 2: gym hours and hours a day with her? I said, no,

531
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Speaker 2: twenty five minutes a day, that's it. Five days a week.

532
00:26:33,359 --> 00:26:35,000
Speaker 2: She goes, you need to write a book. When you do,

533
00:26:35,200 --> 00:26:37,040
Speaker 2: call me and I'll have you on the show Her

534
00:26:37,040 --> 00:26:39,399
Speaker 2: Book Club, Her Book Club. Yeah, so I wrote a

535
00:26:39,400 --> 00:26:41,360
Speaker 2: book because she told me to write a book. Five

536
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Speaker 2: Factor Fitness.

537
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Speaker 1: She had me on When Oprah tells you write a book.

538
00:26:44,480 --> 00:26:48,080
Speaker 2: You write a book, You write a book. Yeah. So yeah,

539
00:26:48,200 --> 00:26:49,800
Speaker 2: that kind of things blow up after that.

540
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Speaker 1: That's pretty awesome.

541
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Speaker 2: Yeah.

542
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Speaker 1: Okay, So you also in the listing of all the

543
00:26:55,880 --> 00:26:58,520
Speaker 1: different amazing clients that you've worked with in the past.

544
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Speaker 1: I mean, obviously all of those different clients have different goals,

545
00:27:02,520 --> 00:27:06,320
Speaker 1: they are different people, they have different body types. So overarching,

546
00:27:06,840 --> 00:27:09,760
Speaker 1: what would you say are some of the foundations of

547
00:27:10,119 --> 00:27:13,960
Speaker 1: your training style. So, for instance, like some people like

548
00:27:14,080 --> 00:27:17,600
Speaker 1: will not work with bodybuilders because that's not their thing.

549
00:27:17,680 --> 00:27:20,399
Speaker 1: Are they have bodyweight exercises? So talk to me, I

550
00:27:20,440 --> 00:27:22,000
Speaker 1: know a little bit personally, but talk to me about

551
00:27:22,040 --> 00:27:22,600
Speaker 1: your training team.

552
00:27:22,720 --> 00:27:25,159
Speaker 2: Yeah. So, because I come more from the academic and

553
00:27:25,200 --> 00:27:28,800
Speaker 2: scientific background, I think the better you understand the body,

554
00:27:29,440 --> 00:27:32,600
Speaker 2: the simpler you can present and really distill a program

555
00:27:32,640 --> 00:27:35,760
Speaker 2: to somebody. So there's one hundred and sixty eight hours

556
00:27:35,760 --> 00:27:37,760
Speaker 2: in the week, and even if you're in the gym

557
00:27:37,880 --> 00:27:39,520
Speaker 2: five days a week, you're still not in the gym

558
00:27:39,560 --> 00:27:41,280
Speaker 2: one hundred and sixty three of those one hundred and

559
00:27:41,320 --> 00:27:43,720
Speaker 2: sixty eight hours, And it's what you do during that

560
00:27:43,800 --> 00:27:46,239
Speaker 2: time that is far more impactful than anything you do

561
00:27:46,280 --> 00:27:49,040
Speaker 2: in the gym. How you sleep, how you move throughout

562
00:27:49,040 --> 00:27:54,199
Speaker 2: the day, your stress levels, and so these are really impactful.

563
00:27:54,280 --> 00:27:56,280
Speaker 2: So I spent a lot of time focusing on that,

564
00:27:56,960 --> 00:28:00,200
Speaker 2: and then the workout part is really easy. For people

565
00:28:00,240 --> 00:28:01,800
Speaker 2: that are scared to use free weights because they're going

566
00:28:01,840 --> 00:28:04,800
Speaker 2: to bulk, I got news for you. Ten pounds dumbbells

567
00:28:04,960 --> 00:28:07,480
Speaker 2: are way less than lifting your own body you know,

568
00:28:07,840 --> 00:28:09,119
Speaker 2: I just do yoga. I just want to lift my

569
00:28:09,160 --> 00:28:11,760
Speaker 2: own body weight. That's way more than the dumbells I

570
00:28:11,800 --> 00:28:13,960
Speaker 2: was ever going to give you, or way more than

571
00:28:14,000 --> 00:28:18,280
Speaker 2: the cables or the TRX suspension strap. So understanding that

572
00:28:18,320 --> 00:28:22,200
Speaker 2: resistance is resistance and it's generally governed by gravity, whether

573
00:28:22,200 --> 00:28:25,600
Speaker 2: it be your body weight, dumbells, cables, a barbell, kettlebells,

574
00:28:25,640 --> 00:28:31,000
Speaker 2: whatever it is. So simplifying the workouts and really getting

575
00:28:31,000 --> 00:28:33,440
Speaker 2: away from the kitchen sink approach, people like, Okay, today

576
00:28:33,440 --> 00:28:35,440
Speaker 2: I'm gonna train legs. I'm gonna do lunges and squats

577
00:28:35,440 --> 00:28:37,960
Speaker 2: and step ups and this and that. Why so much

578
00:28:38,520 --> 00:28:40,280
Speaker 2: what is it we need to do rather than what

579
00:28:40,320 --> 00:28:42,120
Speaker 2: can we do? What's the least you need to do

580
00:28:42,160 --> 00:28:44,680
Speaker 2: to get the most results? And so I think efficiency

581
00:28:44,720 --> 00:28:46,719
Speaker 2: is something that I've spent a lot of time focusing on.

582
00:28:47,040 --> 00:28:49,600
Speaker 1: On that idea of it's the other I think you

583
00:28:49,640 --> 00:28:51,640
Speaker 1: said one hundred and sixty five hours out of the

584
00:28:51,640 --> 00:28:54,480
Speaker 1: one hundred and sixty eight tonight. Yeah, on this idea

585
00:28:54,520 --> 00:28:56,520
Speaker 1: that it's the other one hundred and sixty five hours

586
00:28:56,520 --> 00:28:58,440
Speaker 1: of the week. Yeah, I know you and I spoke

587
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Speaker 1: a little bit about something that you personally, we're struggling

588
00:29:01,160 --> 00:29:03,480
Speaker 1: with in the other one hundred and sixty five hours.

589
00:29:03,600 --> 00:29:06,560
Speaker 1: So let's talk about let's talk about nutrition, let's talk

590
00:29:06,560 --> 00:29:07,880
Speaker 1: about personal nutrition all that.

591
00:29:08,080 --> 00:29:08,280
Speaker 2: Sure.

592
00:29:08,400 --> 00:29:11,080
Speaker 1: I mean, you're training all these celebrities, but everyone you

593
00:29:11,120 --> 00:29:13,440
Speaker 1: know has their thing, So what was your what was

594
00:29:13,440 --> 00:29:13,840
Speaker 1: your thing?

595
00:29:14,200 --> 00:29:14,680
Speaker 2: Sweets?

596
00:29:14,880 --> 00:29:16,680
Speaker 1: Yeah? I can totally relate with you on this.

597
00:29:16,800 --> 00:29:19,880
Speaker 2: I mean I think of chocolate chip cookies childhood, you know,

598
00:29:19,960 --> 00:29:25,120
Speaker 2: banana bread childhood. Obviously, my parents wanting to minimize the

599
00:29:25,160 --> 00:29:27,640
Speaker 2: sugar in the house because of my brothers, so I'd

600
00:29:27,640 --> 00:29:29,520
Speaker 2: go out and sneak and find it some other way.

601
00:29:30,400 --> 00:29:33,200
Speaker 2: I think my mother handed it down to me. She

602
00:29:33,240 --> 00:29:36,840
Speaker 2: loves her sweet things. You know, when she comes to

603
00:29:36,960 --> 00:29:40,440
Speaker 2: LA and visits with us, I know she'll come downstairs

604
00:29:40,480 --> 00:29:42,239
Speaker 2: and look on our cupboards to see what cookies are

605
00:29:42,320 --> 00:29:45,760
Speaker 2: after like, I just like her. So, no matter how

606
00:29:45,840 --> 00:29:47,760
Speaker 2: much I know about the body and how much I

607
00:29:47,800 --> 00:29:51,240
Speaker 2: know about nutrition, and how much I tell people about nutrition,

608
00:29:51,840 --> 00:29:55,320
Speaker 2: I have my own flaws and faults and I own them,

609
00:29:55,760 --> 00:29:58,720
Speaker 2: and they are sugar. I love sweet things. I love

610
00:29:58,760 --> 00:30:02,520
Speaker 2: bake goods. I love ch ocolate. So that's probably been

611
00:30:02,560 --> 00:30:03,720
Speaker 2: a that's a challenge for me.

612
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Speaker 1: Give me an example of how much.

613
00:30:06,440 --> 00:30:09,720
Speaker 2: So if you name a city, I'll tell you where

614
00:30:09,720 --> 00:30:11,960
Speaker 2: the best chocolate of cookies are. I'll define exactly the

615
00:30:12,000 --> 00:30:14,600
Speaker 2: density of chip ratio to dough. The problems with some

616
00:30:14,640 --> 00:30:16,360
Speaker 2: other places, like when you're in New York, everyone likes

617
00:30:16,400 --> 00:30:18,680
Speaker 2: Lavan Bakery. The problem is the nuts in there. They're

618
00:30:18,680 --> 00:30:22,800
Speaker 2: almost like scones. There's also a Fat Booty Bakery down

619
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Speaker 2: on twenty third in Chelsea. They put peanut butter cups

620
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Speaker 2: on top of their chocolates of cookies. Here in Los

621
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Speaker 2: Angeles you have Commissary Cafe, which you used to do

622
00:30:29,840 --> 00:30:31,920
Speaker 2: the best chocolate of cookies right now, they're kind of

623
00:30:31,960 --> 00:30:35,120
Speaker 2: not consistent, and they do a great chocolates of vegan cookie,

624
00:30:35,160 --> 00:30:37,320
Speaker 2: which actually is not bad. But then I'll go over

625
00:30:37,400 --> 00:30:39,720
Speaker 2: to the Four Seasons on Dohini, which does two great

626
00:30:39,760 --> 00:30:41,800
Speaker 2: chocolates of cookies, depending on where you get them from

627
00:30:41,800 --> 00:30:43,680
Speaker 2: in the cafe. I can go on. I can talk

628
00:30:43,680 --> 00:30:45,680
Speaker 2: about chocolate of cookies forever, Our.

629
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Speaker 1: Chocolate of cookies, like the it's the main squeaze yea.

630
00:30:50,080 --> 00:30:54,520
Speaker 2: Or nutella or just utella, utella in a spoon, just

631
00:30:54,640 --> 00:30:55,640
Speaker 2: spooning nutella.

632
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Speaker 1: So you got to a point where you were like

633
00:30:57,280 --> 00:30:58,760
Speaker 1: eating a ton of sugar.

634
00:30:59,440 --> 00:31:04,000
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah. So the coffee shop on Fairfax in

635
00:31:04,080 --> 00:31:06,920
Speaker 2: Los Angeles I go to. I remember one day going

636
00:31:06,960 --> 00:31:08,640
Speaker 2: and I would leave my office on a brake and

637
00:31:08,640 --> 00:31:11,000
Speaker 2: I'd walk over to get a coffee, and I'd make

638
00:31:11,040 --> 00:31:12,800
Speaker 2: a phone call walking there, walking back, so I was

639
00:31:12,880 --> 00:31:15,800
Speaker 2: kind of unconscious of what I was doing. And I

640
00:31:15,840 --> 00:31:18,720
Speaker 2: remember one time getting off the phone, being there and

641
00:31:18,760 --> 00:31:22,160
Speaker 2: them handing me a brown paper bag and them saying, wow,

642
00:31:22,200 --> 00:31:24,800
Speaker 2: this is your third today, and I hadn't even thought

643
00:31:24,840 --> 00:31:27,040
Speaker 2: of it that that's the third trip I made to

644
00:31:27,080 --> 00:31:29,280
Speaker 2: this coffee shop today, and my third chocolate of cookie.

645
00:31:29,280 --> 00:31:31,960
Speaker 2: And these are massive. These are seven eight hundred calorie.

646
00:31:32,080 --> 00:31:35,280
Speaker 1: Are these like Lavane's gone size just about? Okay?

647
00:31:35,360 --> 00:31:38,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I hadn't even processed that this is the

648
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Speaker 2: third trip I took a day to go get a

649
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Speaker 2: giant fresh bake chocolate of cookie. And here I am

650
00:31:43,320 --> 00:31:46,200
Speaker 2: between that doing interviews on weight loss, writing weight loss books,

651
00:31:46,360 --> 00:31:50,400
Speaker 2: teaching people about prop reading, and if anyone knew, I

652
00:31:50,400 --> 00:31:54,240
Speaker 2: would be really embarrassed. So I thought, Okay, I got

653
00:31:54,280 --> 00:31:57,360
Speaker 2: to figure this out. And it's not about knowing you

654
00:31:57,400 --> 00:32:01,120
Speaker 2: need to stop and having incentive to stop, but sometimes

655
00:32:01,160 --> 00:32:02,800
Speaker 2: you need help. And that's when I said, I need

656
00:32:02,840 --> 00:32:07,280
Speaker 2: to arm myself with a tool to fight this.

657
00:32:07,720 --> 00:32:11,160
Speaker 1: Interesting I feel like, I mean when I I knew

658
00:32:11,200 --> 00:32:14,320
Speaker 1: in college that I was overweight, but it wasn't until

659
00:32:14,480 --> 00:32:17,440
Speaker 1: I like kind of got the balls to get on

660
00:32:17,480 --> 00:32:19,720
Speaker 1: a scale to see two hundred and four pounds that

661
00:32:19,760 --> 00:32:23,080
Speaker 1: I was like, wow, Wow, Like it hits you in

662
00:32:23,120 --> 00:32:24,880
Speaker 1: the face. So I'm sure when that person I see

663
00:32:24,880 --> 00:32:26,360
Speaker 1: a picture of that, I'll show it to you when

664
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Speaker 1: we're done.

665
00:32:26,840 --> 00:32:27,440
Speaker 2: That's crazy.

666
00:32:27,560 --> 00:32:30,840
Speaker 1: Yeah. When I saw that, though, it like hits you

667
00:32:30,880 --> 00:32:33,520
Speaker 1: in the face and you have this moment where you're like, wow, like, yeah,

668
00:32:33,560 --> 00:32:36,480
Speaker 1: I knew. I knew, for instance, that I liked cookies.

669
00:32:36,840 --> 00:32:38,520
Speaker 1: But when someone looks at you and they're like, this

670
00:32:38,560 --> 00:32:41,640
Speaker 1: is your third today, it's like you're telling me what

671
00:32:41,680 --> 00:32:44,760
Speaker 1: I already know. But shoot, like, yeah, something's got to

672
00:32:44,840 --> 00:32:47,280
Speaker 1: someone's got to give here, something's got to change. So

673
00:32:47,320 --> 00:32:50,240
Speaker 1: I can only imagine like that moment for you where

674
00:32:50,280 --> 00:32:52,480
Speaker 1: it just kind of strikes you and you're like almost

675
00:32:52,560 --> 00:32:54,320
Speaker 1: caught off guard by something you already know.

676
00:32:55,280 --> 00:32:59,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's sort of a it's the truth that you

677
00:32:59,080 --> 00:33:02,040
Speaker 2: don't want to acknowledge. It's like if I covered my

678
00:33:02,080 --> 00:33:04,040
Speaker 2: eyes right here, we're in the same room and I

679
00:33:04,080 --> 00:33:05,480
Speaker 2: and because I don't see you, I pretend you're not

680
00:33:05,520 --> 00:33:07,600
Speaker 2: in the room, but you're you're right here, And those

681
00:33:07,600 --> 00:33:09,960
Speaker 2: cookies were still every single day. And then at home,

682
00:33:10,000 --> 00:33:13,920
Speaker 2: I keep things hidden and my wife would was is

683
00:33:14,080 --> 00:33:16,840
Speaker 2: very sweet about it, and she doesn't want to reprimand me,

684
00:33:16,920 --> 00:33:18,920
Speaker 2: but at the same time she just drop subtle hands

685
00:33:18,920 --> 00:33:22,280
Speaker 2: like oh, you're having another cookie, you know. So yeah,

686
00:33:22,320 --> 00:33:25,720
Speaker 2: So I said, I gotta I gotta need help with this,

687
00:33:25,960 --> 00:33:30,480
Speaker 2: and so I created a product to help me personally.

688
00:33:30,560 --> 00:33:34,200
Speaker 2: This was for me, and found it very successful. In

689
00:33:34,240 --> 00:33:36,720
Speaker 2: my battle with my sugar addiction. It's a real thing.

690
00:33:36,720 --> 00:33:40,560
Speaker 2: Sugar addiction is a real addiction. You know. Our brain

691
00:33:40,600 --> 00:33:44,240
Speaker 2: releases certain chemicals when we get sugar. And then you

692
00:33:44,280 --> 00:33:47,840
Speaker 2: started using with my clients with great success. And and

693
00:33:47,880 --> 00:33:50,920
Speaker 2: I've since created the product called sweet Kick, which comes

694
00:33:50,920 --> 00:33:54,000
Speaker 2: out in a couple of weeks. Wow, So tell everyone.

695
00:33:54,360 --> 00:33:57,000
Speaker 2: It's a plant based mint, and it's a weight loss

696
00:33:57,040 --> 00:34:02,080
Speaker 2: mint that deals with sugar addiction. When you have sweet Kick,

697
00:34:02,480 --> 00:34:06,960
Speaker 2: Number one, sugar does not taste good to you anymore. Interesting,

698
00:34:07,120 --> 00:34:11,160
Speaker 2: and when sugar does not taste.

699
00:34:10,880 --> 00:34:13,080
Speaker 1: Good to you, and Harley starts looking around for sweetcake

700
00:34:13,160 --> 00:34:14,879
Speaker 1: to offer me any And.

701
00:34:14,920 --> 00:34:16,880
Speaker 2: When sugar does not taste good to you anymore, your

702
00:34:16,920 --> 00:34:21,239
Speaker 2: brain does not register that's the same chemicals that you

703
00:34:21,400 --> 00:34:24,479
Speaker 2: cause addiction, and you're less likely to want to eat

704
00:34:24,520 --> 00:34:28,600
Speaker 2: more of it. So, whether it be sodas, sugary coffees,

705
00:34:28,640 --> 00:34:31,479
Speaker 2: baked goods, candy, just put this in your mouth, don't you?

706
00:34:31,520 --> 00:34:32,080
Speaker 2: Just suck on it?

707
00:34:32,239 --> 00:34:33,120
Speaker 1: Okay, keep go on.

708
00:34:34,719 --> 00:34:38,200
Speaker 2: It's a game changer. And so that affects you. Number one.

709
00:34:38,280 --> 00:34:42,160
Speaker 2: Number two is it's an anorectic, which means it's an

710
00:34:42,160 --> 00:34:46,200
Speaker 2: appetite suppressant. So that's the second thing it does up

711
00:34:46,200 --> 00:34:49,680
Speaker 2: to fifteen to twenty percent of a suppression an appetite.

712
00:34:50,040 --> 00:34:51,960
Speaker 2: And the third thing it does is it stabilized your

713
00:34:51,960 --> 00:34:55,359
Speaker 2: blood sugar, so the active ingredients in there totally healthy.

714
00:34:55,400 --> 00:34:56,759
Speaker 2: I can give this to a five year old. There's

715
00:34:56,760 --> 00:35:01,120
Speaker 2: nothing dangerous in those stimulants in here is to stabilize

716
00:35:01,120 --> 00:35:04,239
Speaker 2: your blood sugar, which reduces those blood sugar drops later

717
00:35:04,280 --> 00:35:05,880
Speaker 2: in the day where we get desperate and want to

718
00:35:05,880 --> 00:35:06,600
Speaker 2: have something sweet.

719
00:35:06,920 --> 00:35:07,879
Speaker 1: It tastes like a mint.

720
00:35:08,120 --> 00:35:10,200
Speaker 2: It's a mint. Yes, we have cinnamon and we have mint.

721
00:35:10,280 --> 00:35:12,360
Speaker 2: Actually I think we're just coming out with mint at first,

722
00:35:13,960 --> 00:35:16,040
Speaker 2: but I can't wait. When you're done this, don't even

723
00:35:16,080 --> 00:35:17,560
Speaker 2: think about it. When you're done, we're going to do

724
00:35:17,560 --> 00:35:18,960
Speaker 2: a little test. Oh perfect.

725
00:35:19,000 --> 00:35:21,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, we have to share photos and do a test

726
00:35:21,080 --> 00:35:26,360
Speaker 1: when we do. Yeah, okay, So but before you created

727
00:35:26,400 --> 00:35:29,480
Speaker 1: this product, I'm just curious at first, what were you

728
00:35:29,680 --> 00:35:31,759
Speaker 1: doing when you realized you need to make a change.

729
00:35:31,760 --> 00:35:34,040
Speaker 1: Because for a lot of people, whether it's sugar or whatever,

730
00:35:34,160 --> 00:35:36,560
Speaker 1: whatever you come to terms with, that's something something needs

731
00:35:36,600 --> 00:35:39,120
Speaker 1: to change. It's just so overwhelming. At first.

732
00:35:39,200 --> 00:35:41,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, I had we were on vacation, we were at

733
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Speaker 2: a friend's house, in their lake house, and I didn't

734
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Speaker 2: feel confident taking my shirt off. I honestly didn't feel

735
00:35:47,680 --> 00:35:51,920
Speaker 2: confident taking my shirt off. And here I am. I'm

736
00:35:51,920 --> 00:35:56,080
Speaker 2: supposed to be this role model and educator, previous fitness

737
00:35:56,120 --> 00:35:58,600
Speaker 2: model you'll see in the other room, to cover fitness magazines,

738
00:35:58,960 --> 00:36:00,840
Speaker 2: and all of a sudden, I was confident because I

739
00:36:00,920 --> 00:36:03,239
Speaker 2: didn't feel lean anymore. And I wasn't lean anymore because

740
00:36:03,239 --> 00:36:07,360
Speaker 2: I was having two thousand calories a day of baked goods,

741
00:36:08,000 --> 00:36:13,040
Speaker 2: and I knew something had to change.

742
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743
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744
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745
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746
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747
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763
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Speaker 1: relate to this, and I think, I mean, I think

764
00:37:39,360 --> 00:37:42,640
Speaker 1: anyone that works in our industry in any different capacity.

765
00:37:42,640 --> 00:37:44,640
Speaker 1: Obviously what you do and what I do are very different,

766
00:37:44,960 --> 00:37:48,440
Speaker 1: but it's like you recognize that there's an issue, Like

767
00:37:48,520 --> 00:37:50,719
Speaker 1: even lately, I feel like with all the travel, like

768
00:37:50,760 --> 00:37:52,319
Speaker 1: things feel a little out of control. And then you

769
00:37:52,400 --> 00:37:55,520
Speaker 1: go and do a panel in front of four hundred

770
00:37:55,520 --> 00:37:57,160
Speaker 1: people and then you're like you're all looking at me,

771
00:37:57,200 --> 00:37:58,680
Speaker 1: but I'm also looking at me, and like, why am

772
00:37:58,719 --> 00:38:01,080
Speaker 1: I not stopping what's making you feel so self conscious

773
00:38:01,080 --> 00:38:03,080
Speaker 1: of all these things? And so you get to this

774
00:38:03,160 --> 00:38:06,960
Speaker 1: point and it's like okay, so now what So okay,

775
00:38:07,200 --> 00:38:10,160
Speaker 1: you go to take your you go to this lake house,

776
00:38:10,160 --> 00:38:11,400
Speaker 1: you don't want to take your shirt off, and then

777
00:38:11,440 --> 00:38:11,960
Speaker 1: what happens?

778
00:38:12,719 --> 00:38:14,799
Speaker 2: Then I looked at my wife and said, something needs

779
00:38:14,840 --> 00:38:17,080
Speaker 2: to change, and she says, okay, well you know you don't.

780
00:38:17,120 --> 00:38:18,879
Speaker 2: Nothing has to change. It's up to you if you're

781
00:38:18,920 --> 00:38:21,479
Speaker 2: not happy with yourself. And I was like, I really

782
00:38:21,480 --> 00:38:23,680
Speaker 2: I love you for being so sweet, but this is

783
00:38:24,040 --> 00:38:28,360
Speaker 2: like out of control. So I'd been playing around with

784
00:38:28,400 --> 00:38:30,799
Speaker 2: different active ingredients to help some of my clients with

785
00:38:30,840 --> 00:38:33,640
Speaker 2: diabetes to help with their blood sugar stability, and I

786
00:38:33,719 --> 00:38:35,560
Speaker 2: knew the side effect was one of them. Is they

787
00:38:35,560 --> 00:38:39,960
Speaker 2: told me that their frappuccino in the morning was gross

788
00:38:40,200 --> 00:38:42,120
Speaker 2: and I couldn't understand it. And then I was like, okay,

789
00:38:42,440 --> 00:38:44,400
Speaker 2: I must have something to do with the chemistry on

790
00:38:44,440 --> 00:38:49,080
Speaker 2: your tongue and the sweetener in the frappuccino. And I realized, Wow,

791
00:38:49,120 --> 00:38:51,480
Speaker 2: this side effect might actually be the main reason that

792
00:38:51,520 --> 00:38:54,120
Speaker 2: I should be using it, because if that sweet thing

793
00:38:54,120 --> 00:38:55,799
Speaker 2: does not taste good, what is it? What does a

794
00:38:55,800 --> 00:38:57,799
Speaker 2: big good taste, like, what is it? What does an

795
00:38:57,800 --> 00:39:00,960
Speaker 2: oreo taste like? So I tried an oreo was disgusting.

796
00:39:01,600 --> 00:39:03,680
Speaker 2: It's like, wow, okay.

797
00:39:03,400 --> 00:39:04,399
Speaker 1: You're like, what's going on?

798
00:39:04,480 --> 00:39:08,280
Speaker 2: This is amazing. Then I tried a hers she kiss

799
00:39:08,320 --> 00:39:10,960
Speaker 2: tasteless like having a like just eating a thing of

800
00:39:11,040 --> 00:39:17,000
Speaker 2: butter without the delicious buttery taste. And tried a soda

801
00:39:17,200 --> 00:39:21,239
Speaker 2: that will remain nameless a cola, and which I'm going

802
00:39:21,280 --> 00:39:24,399
Speaker 2: to have you try in a moment, and I'll leave

803
00:39:24,440 --> 00:39:25,760
Speaker 2: that part for you to decide.

804
00:39:25,960 --> 00:39:27,520
Speaker 1: I'll have to let them know in the intro to

805
00:39:27,560 --> 00:39:31,280
Speaker 1: this episode how I feel about all this stuff? Yes, okay,

806
00:39:31,360 --> 00:39:35,920
Speaker 1: so interesting. I also think so my my question about

807
00:39:35,920 --> 00:39:39,319
Speaker 1: life now, like if you what if you wanted to

808
00:39:39,600 --> 00:39:42,439
Speaker 1: enjoy a birthday cake with someone, then I don't.

809
00:39:42,480 --> 00:39:43,520
Speaker 2: I don't have a sweet kick.

810
00:39:43,719 --> 00:39:44,040
Speaker 1: I get it.

811
00:39:44,320 --> 00:39:47,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, I know. You know I'm going out to a

812
00:39:47,640 --> 00:39:50,239
Speaker 2: party and I want to celebrate life, and I you know,

813
00:39:50,400 --> 00:39:52,440
Speaker 2: you control when you want to have it. I think

814
00:39:52,440 --> 00:39:54,359
Speaker 2: it's also Look, there's two ways of doing it. One

815
00:39:54,440 --> 00:39:56,839
Speaker 2: is called the sweet kick reset, where you say this

816
00:39:56,880 --> 00:39:59,560
Speaker 2: is out of control. I need to be leaner, I

817
00:39:59,680 --> 00:40:02,200
Speaker 2: need to lose body fat, and I need to be

818
00:40:02,239 --> 00:40:04,799
Speaker 2: more in control of my sugar cravings. And so it's

819
00:40:04,840 --> 00:40:07,359
Speaker 2: a two week period where you have as you haven't

820
00:40:07,400 --> 00:40:09,760
Speaker 2: in every four or five hours. And so it's a schedule.

821
00:40:09,920 --> 00:40:11,440
Speaker 2: The other way to use it is how I use

822
00:40:11,480 --> 00:40:13,760
Speaker 2: it now at this point is I'm out for dinner.

823
00:40:14,520 --> 00:40:16,959
Speaker 2: I know my friends are all ordering dessert. I don't

824
00:40:16,960 --> 00:40:19,160
Speaker 2: need dessert. It's not a celebration of any kind. I

825
00:40:19,239 --> 00:40:21,239
Speaker 2: just had a great meal. I'll pop them int in.

826
00:40:21,800 --> 00:40:23,960
Speaker 2: And so when it broke brought out there, look, I'm curious.

827
00:40:23,960 --> 00:40:26,760
Speaker 2: I wonder what it tastes like. Inevitably out it'll be gross.

828
00:40:26,960 --> 00:40:30,319
Speaker 1: Yeah, so interesting. Yeah, So what does life look like

829
00:40:30,400 --> 00:40:33,399
Speaker 1: these days? Like aside from the sugar stuff? What's life

830
00:40:33,520 --> 00:40:34,640
Speaker 1: like for Harley Pasternack?

831
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Speaker 2: Well, I saw you at our wonderful Propelled collabse event

832
00:40:37,760 --> 00:40:41,400
Speaker 2: this weekend, So that was fun. Today I spent probably

833
00:40:41,440 --> 00:40:43,759
Speaker 2: half the day working on gym design stuff. So I

834
00:40:43,840 --> 00:40:48,319
Speaker 2: met with No Booze architect dealing talking about a really

835
00:40:48,320 --> 00:40:54,440
Speaker 2: interesting project, the vice president of design and Construction for

836
00:40:54,480 --> 00:40:57,200
Speaker 2: four Seasons, talking about some great projects we're doing overseas,

837
00:40:58,320 --> 00:41:01,360
Speaker 2: a new equipment manufacturer test to some of their product.

838
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Speaker 2: This morning, I got to see the lovely Charlie Pooth

839
00:41:04,920 --> 00:41:09,120
Speaker 2: and Ariana Grande and Benny Blanco and my favorite training partner,

840
00:41:09,440 --> 00:41:15,719
Speaker 2: Brad Falchuk, who's Gwyneth Paltrow's husband. And after this, I'll

841
00:41:15,719 --> 00:41:18,520
Speaker 2: have one client who's sort of one of my dearest

842
00:41:18,520 --> 00:41:20,240
Speaker 2: friends in the world. I don't even call them a client.

843
00:41:21,040 --> 00:41:24,280
Speaker 2: I'll go home, I'll have dinner with my kids and

844
00:41:25,719 --> 00:41:28,759
Speaker 2: we'll take a bath or shower together where they have

845
00:41:28,800 --> 00:41:30,520
Speaker 2: a new game where they take the shower head and

846
00:41:30,560 --> 00:41:32,160
Speaker 2: they just shoot it in my mouth, so I can't

847
00:41:32,160 --> 00:41:35,000
Speaker 2: talk anymore and I can't see anymore. And then I

848
00:41:35,080 --> 00:41:36,719
Speaker 2: read them a book, put them to bed, and then

849
00:41:36,760 --> 00:41:39,279
Speaker 2: my wife and I watch something funny and then we

850
00:41:39,320 --> 00:41:39,719
Speaker 2: go to bed.

851
00:41:39,880 --> 00:41:41,640
Speaker 1: That's it. That's a normal day.

852
00:41:41,800 --> 00:41:43,960
Speaker 2: It's a normal day. And then I travel every ten days.

853
00:41:44,400 --> 00:41:47,520
Speaker 1: So yeah, so that's interesting about the parameters on that

854
00:41:48,239 --> 00:41:50,200
Speaker 1: is that like very strategic.

855
00:41:50,160 --> 00:41:53,040
Speaker 2: So different different brand partners have me for certain numbers

856
00:41:53,080 --> 00:41:53,759
Speaker 2: of days a year.

857
00:41:53,920 --> 00:41:54,239
Speaker 1: Got it.

858
00:41:54,360 --> 00:41:56,960
Speaker 2: And then I need to go see the projects I'm

859
00:41:56,960 --> 00:42:00,680
Speaker 2: working on. So in the next little few days, I've

860
00:42:00,680 --> 00:42:03,440
Speaker 2: got to go check out New Orleans in the new

861
00:42:03,480 --> 00:42:06,280
Speaker 2: gym I did in Montreal. I'll check out a project

862
00:42:06,320 --> 00:42:09,000
Speaker 2: that I'm working on in Dubai and then I'll come home.

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Speaker 1: Is your family still in Montreal?

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Speaker 2: My parents are in Toronto, my brother's in Toronto, but

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Speaker 2: we still have a lot of family in Montreal. Got it?

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Speaker 2: Best food city ever.

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Speaker 1: I haven't been to Montreal. I'm going and when I go,

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Speaker 1: I'll hit you up for all that.

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Speaker 2: That's where bagels are from. Bagels and Delhi are from Montreal.

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Speaker 1: Perfect.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Are there allowed Jews in Montreal A lot?

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Speaker 2: It's the highest density in the world outside of it.

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Speaker 1: Maybe I should go there? Yeah, yeah, perfect, Okay, maybe

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Speaker 1: I'll find a husband when I go. See awesome. Okay,

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00:42:37,040 --> 00:42:41,840
Speaker 1: So days are busy but rewarding. We talked about, obviously

877
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Speaker 1: the photo on the wall. You're this guy that works

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Speaker 1: with a lot of really fabulous, big name clients, and

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00:42:47,800 --> 00:42:49,680
Speaker 1: this is what people will see when they see you

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00:42:49,760 --> 00:42:51,920
Speaker 1: on social media or wherever the case may be. What

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Speaker 1: I want to know is when you look in the mirror, now,

882
00:42:54,560 --> 00:42:56,120
Speaker 1: what is it that you see.

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00:42:57,480 --> 00:42:59,960
Speaker 2: I'm really tired. I don't sleep as well as I

884
00:43:00,200 --> 00:43:01,959
Speaker 2: used to because I have little kids in the wakem

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Speaker 2: up in the middle of the night, and I have

886
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Speaker 2: annoying arthritis in my lower back. But I'm fulfilled. I

887
00:43:08,200 --> 00:43:11,360
Speaker 2: wake up with purpose every single day. I love what

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Speaker 2: I do. I love that I do different things, all

889
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Speaker 2: in the same field, but every one of my day

890
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Speaker 2: of my life is different. I love that I'm at

891
00:43:18,680 --> 00:43:20,640
Speaker 2: a point where I can choose who I work with

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Speaker 2: and what I work on. I have an incredible family life,

893
00:43:26,480 --> 00:43:30,560
Speaker 2: and I'd like to be a better golfer. I've gradually,

894
00:43:30,760 --> 00:43:33,839
Speaker 2: I've gotten progressively worse over the last thirty five years

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Speaker 2: of playing golf.

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Speaker 1: But oh, that's the lower back arthriatis.

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Speaker 2: Oh you know what I never thought of.

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Speaker 1: That I got you. Maybe it's the lower back arthritis. Oh, Emily,

899
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Speaker 1: a body blowing a Harley Bastarna's mine with some connections here.

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Speaker 1: It could be you definitely don't have the same range

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00:43:50,560 --> 00:43:51,520
Speaker 1: of motion on your swing.

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00:43:51,719 --> 00:43:55,239
Speaker 2: Wow, anyway, Okay, I'll come back to that.

903
00:43:55,320 --> 00:43:57,759
Speaker 1: You'll come back to that. Okay, all right. So we

904
00:43:57,800 --> 00:44:00,640
Speaker 1: see a guy that's fulfilled and a little tired.

905
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Speaker 2: Yeah, really happy, really happy, really happy? Yeah, a little tired.

906
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Speaker 2: Can I get you something?

907
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Speaker 1: Yeah? Okay, right now, okay, all right, So justin background,

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Speaker 1: Harley just went out to grab me a Hershey kiss

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Speaker 1: and a cola we're about to.

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Speaker 2: Do any Are you ready? Yeah, so this has not

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Speaker 2: been tampered with. I'm opening this Hershey, kiss, it should

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Speaker 2: be really sweet because they are cheap chocolate, so it's

913
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Speaker 2: really really sweet chocolate.

914
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Speaker 1: It does not taste really sweet at all.

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00:44:28,840 --> 00:44:30,880
Speaker 2: No, Wow, you're not going to run through fire to

916
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Speaker 2: eat that.

917
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Speaker 1: It tastes really sweet.

918
00:44:33,800 --> 00:44:36,040
Speaker 2: Now I'm going to open this can. You're ready to sound?

919
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Speaker 1: Well? That sounds great, right, yeah, this.

920
00:44:40,000 --> 00:44:42,400
Speaker 2: Should be the sweetest thing ever that it is pure sugar.

921
00:44:43,040 --> 00:44:46,880
Speaker 1: Wow, I wish this was a video podcast.

922
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Speaker 2: Isn't that crazy?

923
00:44:48,320 --> 00:44:49,080
Speaker 1: This is crazy?

924
00:44:49,280 --> 00:44:53,359
Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, and the diet so does actually do the same.

925
00:44:53,400 --> 00:44:55,319
Speaker 2: You do not taste the artificial sweetener as well.

926
00:44:57,239 --> 00:45:01,640
Speaker 1: It almost tastes kind of a little bit like diet,

927
00:45:01,760 --> 00:45:04,800
Speaker 1: but just really bland. Right, yeah, it tastes really bland.

928
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Speaker 2: So you still taste the caramela, you still taste the salt,

929
00:45:07,320 --> 00:45:09,560
Speaker 2: you still taste the other things, but that sweetness has

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Speaker 2: been blunted so significantly. You don't want to finish this can?

931
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Speaker 1: Wow? No, I mean I have no need to.

932
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Speaker 2: No.

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00:45:14,880 --> 00:45:18,000
Speaker 1: No, I do get some of the residual chocolate tastes though,

934
00:45:18,040 --> 00:45:19,759
Speaker 1: then like in the black, I'm like maybe this is

935
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Speaker 1: still good.

936
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Speaker 2: So you're gonna get the you're gonna taste the cocoa. Yeah,

937
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Speaker 2: you're gonna still get those notes. But when the sweetness

938
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Speaker 2: is gone, it's like, why am I even bothering? No

939
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Speaker 2: one's gonna sit down and eat ninety nine percent dark

940
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Speaker 2: chocolate and have a bar.

941
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Speaker 1: Wow, that's so interesting. Well that was a real experiment

942
00:45:35,680 --> 00:45:39,560
Speaker 1: that was just said, right, all right, So then this

943
00:45:39,680 --> 00:45:42,560
Speaker 1: is obviously just for sugar. I asked you this yesterday

944
00:45:42,560 --> 00:45:43,800
Speaker 1: on the panel, and I'm going to ask it to

945
00:45:43,840 --> 00:45:45,920
Speaker 1: you again right now. Someone knows they want to make

946
00:45:45,920 --> 00:45:48,000
Speaker 1: a change in their lifestyle, they know that they want

947
00:45:48,040 --> 00:45:50,759
Speaker 1: to be a little bit healthier, they can do one

948
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Speaker 1: thing differently. What do they do differently to be a

949
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Speaker 1: little bit better?

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Speaker 2: I would say the one thing that people are not

951
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Speaker 2: doing enough of. There's so many I was to triage

952
00:46:00,960 --> 00:46:04,560
Speaker 2: it number one, move more all day, get a fitbit,

953
00:46:04,960 --> 00:46:07,279
Speaker 2: try and hit at least ten thousand steps a day.

954
00:46:07,719 --> 00:46:10,520
Speaker 2: And I think people are focusing too much on working out,

955
00:46:10,960 --> 00:46:15,000
Speaker 2: spin classes, pilates, boot camps, and so the other ninety

956
00:46:15,040 --> 00:46:18,120
Speaker 2: eight percent of the week they're just completely sedentary. That

957
00:46:18,160 --> 00:46:21,080
Speaker 2: would be the one thing that's one A one B.

958
00:46:21,840 --> 00:46:23,880
Speaker 2: Go to bed earlier and turn your phone or your

959
00:46:23,960 --> 00:46:26,279
Speaker 2: laptop off at least an hour before you go to bed.

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00:46:26,280 --> 00:46:29,160
Speaker 2: We are sleeping less today than ever, and poorer from

961
00:46:29,200 --> 00:46:31,880
Speaker 2: a quality perspective than we ever have from all the

962
00:46:31,920 --> 00:46:34,400
Speaker 2: alerts on our phones and the blue light from our phones.

963
00:46:34,760 --> 00:46:37,200
Speaker 2: Shut them down. Go to bed a little earlier. It'll

964
00:46:37,239 --> 00:46:38,719
Speaker 2: change the way you look, the way you feel, and

965
00:46:38,719 --> 00:46:39,279
Speaker 2: the way you move.

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Speaker 1: Okay, big advice. The last question I asked on the podcast.

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Speaker 1: You have an opportunity right now to give the Harriley

968
00:46:48,600 --> 00:46:52,280
Speaker 1: who's standing at the bakery being offered a brown bag,

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Speaker 1: one piece of advice. Looking back on it right now

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Speaker 1: in retrospect, maybe this is more on the mental side

971
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Speaker 1: and less than the like just put it down. What

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Speaker 1: do you tell him going through that hurdle moment?

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Speaker 2: Wow, I don't know if I would do anything differently.

974
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Speaker 2: I've made so many mistakes in my life, and I

975
00:47:13,120 --> 00:47:16,200
Speaker 2: am where I am today because I did those things

976
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Speaker 2: and failed at them. So if I was to come

977
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Speaker 2: down in a time machine and speak to my younger self,

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Speaker 2: I would probably say, you're going to lose your hair,

979
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Speaker 2: start wearing hats earlier on and that's about it. But yeah,

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Speaker 2: I don't think I would change anything. I honestly, everything

981
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Speaker 2: I've done has led me to this point, good, bad, wrong, right,

982
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Speaker 2: and I don't think I have any regrets.

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Speaker 1: Harley, thanks so much for your time. Did I thank you?

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Speaker 1: Please take a moment and leave a quick review by

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Speaker 1: clicking the link with the description to this episode. We

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Speaker 1: all face multiple hurdles in life. I want to hear

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Speaker 1: about yours. Reach out to me at Emily at Hurdle

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Speaker 1: dot us. Connect to the podcast on Instagram and Twitter

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Speaker 1: at Hurdle Podcastle. Where do they find you? Where do

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00:48:01,480 --> 00:48:03,080
Speaker 1: they keep up with you? I mean, I'm sure you

991
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Speaker 1: want to tell them about this.

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Speaker 2: My home address is. You can visit me on Instagram,

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Speaker 2: which is just at Harley Pasternak h A r l

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Speaker 2: E Y p A s t E r n a K.

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Speaker 2: You can get the Harley Pasternak Power Blender from Saltan

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Speaker 2: on Amazon. You can read any of my books five Factor,

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Speaker 2: five Factor Fitness, five Factor Diet, five Factor World Diet,

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Speaker 2: The Body Reset Diet, five Pounds of the Body Reset

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Speaker 2: Diet Cookbook on Amazon or Barnes and Noble. What else,

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Speaker 2: And if you're in Canada, this summer. I'll be up

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Speaker 2: Muskoke on the Lake. Come say hi.

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Speaker 1: I don't think you've ever done this before.

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Speaker 2: Oh revenge body, Oh revenge body on E. Don't don't

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Speaker 2: miss that. And uh yeah so that that's fun awesome.

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Speaker 1: I am at Emily Abodi. Another hurdle conquered. Catch you

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Speaker 1: guys next time