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Speaker 1: The Season with Peter Scheger is a production of the

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Speaker 1: NFL in partnership with iHeartRadio. What's up, everybody, This is

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Speaker 1: Peter Scheger. This is the Season with Peter Schrager. And

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Speaker 1: it is the third Tuesday in May.

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Speaker 2: When we're recording this.

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Speaker 1: And I'll tell you, usually this is like the dark

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Speaker 1: dead time of the NFL offseason anything. But I'm joined

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Speaker 1: here by my producer, Aaron wang Kauffman. Aaron, the league

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Speaker 1: meeting is going on right now, and it is not

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Speaker 1: the one in March. It's the one in Man. Usually

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Speaker 1: the one in March is where all the big news

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Speaker 1: comes out. But yesterday there was a few news items

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Speaker 1: that I'm going to run through at the listeners, and

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Speaker 1: I want to get your thoughts on one of them.

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Speaker 2: First off, the Super Bowl.

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Speaker 1: In a few years then Mech's site is going to

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Speaker 1: be in San Francisco, Santa Clara. It's going to be

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Speaker 1: at Levi Stadium at Super Bowl sixties.

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Speaker 2: That's news number two.

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Speaker 1: The Draft, which has been a great sensation for so

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Speaker 1: many of these host cities that aren't getting Super Bowls

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Speaker 1: in the near future. Next year's is in Detroit. That's

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Speaker 1: been decided already the following year has been announced that

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Speaker 1: it's going to be in green Bay.

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Speaker 2: Interesting.

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Speaker 1: Let me get your thoughts to someone who just got

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Speaker 1: back from Kansas City for the draft green Bay. Let's see,

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Speaker 1: three hundred thousand people came to Kansas City for the draft.

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Speaker 1: There are one hundred thousand residents of Green Bay. There

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Speaker 1: are not a ton of hotel options, and yet it

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Speaker 1: is a football mecha. Your reaction to green Bay as

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Speaker 1: the choice for the NFL for the draft.

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Speaker 3: Well, someone who went to school in Minnesota and loves

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Speaker 3: the Midwest, I am all for like these smaller Midwest

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Speaker 3: I think it'll be It'll be a lot of people

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Speaker 1: Though I've been to Green Bay several times for Packers' games.

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Speaker 1: You drive up and similar to Buffalo, maybe even more,

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Speaker 2: Just a stone's throw from lambeau Field.

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Speaker 1: There's not a ton of you know, modern hotels where

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Speaker 1: they're not there's no four seasons in green Bay, and

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Speaker 2: I'm curious how they're going to do all that.

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Speaker 1: But I also know Peter O'Reilly, who runs the events

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Speaker 1: for the NFL, uh has so many ideas and the

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Speaker 2: They will figure it out, all right.

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Speaker 1: The controversial news that came out late Monday night, and

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Speaker 1: there's few things that are controversial or that are that

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Speaker 1: comes to like let's take a vote for it, and

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Speaker 1: it comes of all things Thursday night Flex scheduling. All right,

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Speaker 1: here's what it is. In short, Amazon had this great

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Speaker 1: late games of the season that are gonna be you know,

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Speaker 1: night matchups, and they needed twenty four votes.

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Speaker 2: They didn't have those twenty four votes. It was tabled

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Speaker 1: Back in March and John Marra, the owner of the Giants,

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Speaker 1: I saw Mark Davis was outspoken about it against it. Quietly,

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Speaker 1: The argument that really struck me, though, was what Jerry

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Speaker 1: I thought it was really interesting that, you know, one

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Speaker 1: kind of wavering and where are we going to go

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Speaker 2: But mind this worth noting that's Christmas weekend. Are you

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Speaker 2: Highly unlikely. So the thresholds and.

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Speaker 1: The barriers are different, and they're stacked differently for Sunday

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Speaker 1: If there's more than one, I'd be shocked. Aaron your

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I'm looking at the games right now.

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Speaker 1: You know, are going to be the same people that say,

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Speaker 4: Thank you. Yeah, usually it's an actor comedian bon vivant.

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Speaker 4: really it was really funny, but it was cool, you know,

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00:21:44,426 --> 00:21:46,306
Speaker 4: and it was like a cheap We got a space

434
00:21:46,386 --> 00:21:48,346
Speaker 4: and we just did these shows and.

435
00:21:48,306 --> 00:21:50,786
Speaker 1: You put these shows on. And we've had Paul Rudd

436
00:21:50,826 --> 00:21:52,626
Speaker 1: on this podcast and I've gotten to know him just

437
00:21:52,666 --> 00:21:54,866
Speaker 1: living in the neighborhood and he talks like with great

438
00:21:54,946 --> 00:21:57,906
Speaker 1: lore about those years in la and like going into

439
00:21:57,986 --> 00:22:01,626
Speaker 1: being told Hey, TENACIOUSD are performing at this place at

440
00:22:01,666 --> 00:22:04,906
Speaker 1: this time, and like just the entire everyone who is

441
00:22:04,946 --> 00:22:06,746
Speaker 1: anyone would be there and it was like going to

442
00:22:07,266 --> 00:22:09,666
Speaker 1: that was kind of the the buzz around mister show

443
00:22:09,706 --> 00:22:12,986
Speaker 1: as well. And then HBO says, we're going to give

444
00:22:12,986 --> 00:22:15,146
Speaker 1: you guys a progress and what was that like, We're

445
00:22:15,146 --> 00:22:16,786
Speaker 1: going to go and do this on the Home Box

446
00:22:16,826 --> 00:22:19,786
Speaker 1: Office after you know, whatever show was on before you.

447
00:22:19,786 --> 00:22:21,146
Speaker 1: I don't know if Sex and the City or Dream

448
00:22:21,186 --> 00:22:23,026
Speaker 1: On whatever else was on at the time, but you know.

449
00:22:22,946 --> 00:22:26,706
Speaker 4: What, I think it was dream On Ben Be. It was.

450
00:22:26,986 --> 00:22:27,106
Speaker 1: Uh.

451
00:22:27,506 --> 00:22:29,426
Speaker 4: Yeah, there wasn't a whole lot back then, and we

452
00:22:29,466 --> 00:22:32,426
Speaker 4: were part of their you know, the comedy block with

453
00:22:33,466 --> 00:22:39,986
Speaker 4: Chris Rock and there's some other stuff. And they said

454
00:22:40,026 --> 00:22:44,866
Speaker 4: to us, they were very specific about we don't want TV,

455
00:22:45,066 --> 00:22:47,066
Speaker 4: we don't want regular stuff that's going to be we

456
00:22:47,066 --> 00:22:49,786
Speaker 4: don't want SNL and we were not interested in that

457
00:22:49,866 --> 00:22:53,026
Speaker 4: kind of thing at all, and uh, and they encouraged

458
00:22:53,106 --> 00:22:57,066
Speaker 4: us to, you know, do what you want to do.

459
00:22:57,306 --> 00:22:59,866
Speaker 4: And we in four years, we only got one note

460
00:22:59,866 --> 00:23:02,026
Speaker 4: that we had to take kind of a standards and

461
00:23:02,066 --> 00:23:04,786
Speaker 4: practices note. That was it. And uh, they were very

462
00:23:05,626 --> 00:23:07,666
Speaker 4: I mean, there's a complete lead new regime there now.

463
00:23:07,706 --> 00:23:10,466
Speaker 4: But the people that we were working with that ushered

464
00:23:10,546 --> 00:23:16,786
Speaker 4: us in were really helpful, really amenable. And again, I

465
00:23:16,786 --> 00:23:19,186
Speaker 4: mean it was a cheap show to make. I mean

466
00:23:19,186 --> 00:23:22,866
Speaker 4: we barely got anything, and we made it look better

467
00:23:22,906 --> 00:23:25,666
Speaker 4: than it actually should have looked for the budget we had.

468
00:23:25,706 --> 00:23:30,706
Speaker 4: And you know, we were what Friday at twelve thirty

469
00:23:30,746 --> 00:23:33,026
Speaker 4: in the morning or something like that, so it wasn't

470
00:23:33,586 --> 00:23:37,306
Speaker 4: we didn't have to do much to attain success for

471
00:23:37,426 --> 00:23:39,866
Speaker 4: that kind of slot at that time with that budget,

472
00:23:40,306 --> 00:23:43,706
Speaker 4: and you know we were critically successful and that's kind

473
00:23:43,746 --> 00:23:45,746
Speaker 4: of all they wanted. So it was a good deal.

474
00:23:45,986 --> 00:23:48,226
Speaker 4: And yeah, it was great.

475
00:23:48,666 --> 00:23:50,106
Speaker 2: You know, the aresa development gig.

476
00:23:50,186 --> 00:23:52,826
Speaker 1: The story that is like urban legend or maybe true

477
00:23:52,866 --> 00:23:55,186
Speaker 1: you can confirm it is that you were dating a

478
00:23:55,186 --> 00:23:58,226
Speaker 1: young woman and you got this audition out in LA

479
00:23:58,226 --> 00:24:00,346
Speaker 1: and he said, I'll go for one day, but this

480
00:24:00,426 --> 00:24:02,146
Speaker 1: girl's in New York. I'm not going to be moving

481
00:24:02,146 --> 00:24:04,586
Speaker 1: my life out to LA. I'll try out for arrested development.

482
00:24:04,626 --> 00:24:06,906
Speaker 1: I'll just do it, see where it goes. You get

483
00:24:06,946 --> 00:24:09,586
Speaker 1: the job, and the rest is history. Tell us, really

484
00:24:09,586 --> 00:24:12,386
Speaker 1: the story and what really went down and when you

485
00:24:12,426 --> 00:24:13,786
Speaker 1: walked into is that is that a.

486
00:24:13,866 --> 00:24:18,386
Speaker 4: Good or it was? So the context to it was

487
00:24:18,586 --> 00:24:21,946
Speaker 4: I had been in LA for nine and a half years.

488
00:24:22,346 --> 00:24:25,866
Speaker 4: I moved there from Boston. And my joke, which was

489
00:24:26,426 --> 00:24:29,626
Speaker 4: based in truth, was like I moved to LA to

490
00:24:29,706 --> 00:24:33,826
Speaker 4: make enough money to move away from LA, you know,

491
00:24:33,866 --> 00:24:37,386
Speaker 4: which is I eventually after being there for nine and

492
00:24:37,386 --> 00:24:41,026
Speaker 4: a half years, and I had a bit of a

493
00:24:41,146 --> 00:24:44,106
Speaker 4: pause in work and I realized because I'd been saying

494
00:24:44,146 --> 00:24:45,466
Speaker 4: for years, like I want to get out of here.

495
00:24:45,506 --> 00:24:47,866
Speaker 4: I want to go to New York. And I had

496
00:24:47,906 --> 00:24:49,866
Speaker 4: this break where I had nothing coming up, and I

497
00:24:49,906 --> 00:24:52,386
Speaker 4: was like, I don't leave right now. I'm going to

498
00:24:53,346 --> 00:24:55,826
Speaker 4: wait here another month and then another job will come

499
00:24:55,866 --> 00:24:58,026
Speaker 4: and I'll be here for another two years. So I

500
00:24:58,066 --> 00:25:01,226
Speaker 4: took this opportunity and moved to And I didn't have

501
00:25:01,226 --> 00:25:03,946
Speaker 4: a lot of possessions. I still don't, I never did,

502
00:25:03,946 --> 00:25:06,586
Speaker 4: but I moved, put all this stuff in a one

503
00:25:06,586 --> 00:25:10,026
Speaker 4: of those little U haul things, moved to New York,

504
00:25:10,426 --> 00:25:16,506
Speaker 4: had a great time uh York and UH and doing

505
00:25:16,546 --> 00:25:19,066
Speaker 4: stand up and stuff. And then I met this woman

506
00:25:19,146 --> 00:25:24,266
Speaker 4: who we had a really good relationship and it eventually

507
00:25:24,346 --> 00:25:26,306
Speaker 4: lasted for like three and a half years. We're still friends.

508
00:25:26,306 --> 00:25:30,386
Speaker 4: And our kids play together. But you know, we were

509
00:25:31,106 --> 00:25:33,706
Speaker 4: in the in the midst of it, and I got

510
00:25:33,746 --> 00:25:39,146
Speaker 4: an offer for rested development and I didn't even look

511
00:25:39,146 --> 00:25:40,346
Speaker 4: at the script. I wasn't interested.

512
00:25:40,386 --> 00:25:42,226
Speaker 2: It was like, there's no way, no audition.

513
00:25:42,386 --> 00:25:45,026
Speaker 1: Nothing they offered you is like guy.

514
00:25:45,066 --> 00:25:48,546
Speaker 4: Initially they wanted me to look at job and I

515
00:25:48,626 --> 00:25:51,186
Speaker 4: and I read the script and I did not have

516
00:25:51,266 --> 00:25:53,266
Speaker 4: a handle on job at all. And once you see

517
00:25:53,306 --> 00:25:57,946
Speaker 4: will Arnett our net, it's and I did not have

518
00:25:57,986 --> 00:26:01,546
Speaker 4: a handle on it. But Tobias, who was meant to

519
00:26:01,626 --> 00:26:07,626
Speaker 4: be a you know, uh, part time I'm forgetting whatever

520
00:26:07,666 --> 00:26:10,306
Speaker 4: the phrase is, you know, but not a full time

521
00:26:10,306 --> 00:26:14,306
Speaker 4: cast guest star. Yeah, like a you know, six out

522
00:26:14,346 --> 00:26:17,586
Speaker 4: of eighteen episodes kind of thing, which already was appealing,

523
00:26:17,666 --> 00:26:19,866
Speaker 4: like oh, I'll just fly to LA We're not going

524
00:26:19,946 --> 00:26:22,306
Speaker 4: to one or two episodes out and go home. But

525
00:26:22,466 --> 00:26:27,106
Speaker 4: also beyond that, I just immediately knew who that character

526
00:26:27,266 --> 00:26:30,306
Speaker 4: was and and had a sense for it, and I

527
00:26:30,346 --> 00:26:32,586
Speaker 4: said can I And I was talking to Bitch for

528
00:26:32,706 --> 00:26:35,906
Speaker 4: Wits and the Russo brothers, the directors, and we were

529
00:26:36,026 --> 00:26:38,746
Speaker 4: talking on the phone because I said, I'm not I

530
00:26:38,746 --> 00:26:40,746
Speaker 4: don't you know, I'll do it if it's part time.

531
00:26:41,066 --> 00:26:44,026
Speaker 4: I just can't and they were like, yeah, that's great,

532
00:26:44,066 --> 00:26:48,986
Speaker 4: that's meant to be part time. And then I came

533
00:26:49,026 --> 00:26:51,546
Speaker 4: out to shoot the pilot, which was you know, you

534
00:26:51,546 --> 00:26:54,066
Speaker 4: always take longer to shoot the pilot, and I was

535
00:26:54,186 --> 00:27:01,266
Speaker 4: probably like a ten day shoot, and I realized around

536
00:27:01,266 --> 00:27:06,546
Speaker 4: the third day that it's really something special. This is

537
00:27:07,186 --> 00:27:10,866
Speaker 4: just from the pilot. And the cast was amazing, the

538
00:27:10,906 --> 00:27:13,346
Speaker 4: dialogue was great, the direct it was fun. They let

539
00:27:13,426 --> 00:27:17,346
Speaker 4: us play around and improvise. And I called my girlfriend

540
00:27:17,426 --> 00:27:24,186
Speaker 4: from the little bridge thing that's in the Beverly what's

541
00:27:24,186 --> 00:27:28,186
Speaker 4: across from the Beverly Center, the Beverly Connection, right across

542
00:27:28,186 --> 00:27:30,626
Speaker 4: the street is a smaller one. I was up on

543
00:27:30,626 --> 00:27:32,186
Speaker 4: this little bridge thing and I called her and I

544
00:27:32,226 --> 00:27:36,626
Speaker 4: was like, hey, so good news, bad news, And I

545
00:27:36,786 --> 00:27:40,866
Speaker 4: basically said I have to do this. Yeah, and you

546
00:27:40,906 --> 00:27:45,226
Speaker 4: know it's really special and so yeah, I think I

547
00:27:45,586 --> 00:27:49,306
Speaker 4: could speak for everybody that we all felt that thing

548
00:27:49,386 --> 00:27:51,946
Speaker 4: when we were shooting it, like this is something special.

549
00:27:52,586 --> 00:27:55,466
Speaker 1: I mean, such a cool cast. And obviously Sarah is

550
00:27:55,466 --> 00:27:58,346
Speaker 1: a kid at the time, and you know, you got

551
00:27:58,466 --> 00:28:02,546
Speaker 1: obviously Baiton and Arnett and all go through it. It's

552
00:28:02,706 --> 00:28:04,946
Speaker 1: every story you hear, and I know that Bateman obviously

553
00:28:04,986 --> 00:28:07,026
Speaker 1: has the SmartLess podcast where we talk about it off

554
00:28:07,026 --> 00:28:08,746
Speaker 1: and with our nett It's like, it seems like it

555
00:28:08,826 --> 00:28:10,786
Speaker 1: was just a really fun time and you guys had

556
00:28:10,826 --> 00:28:12,586
Speaker 1: a blast, And isn't that the best working environment you

557
00:28:12,586 --> 00:28:13,546
Speaker 1: could possibly imagine?

558
00:28:13,546 --> 00:28:15,746
Speaker 2: Just a fun experience working.

559
00:28:16,666 --> 00:28:19,186
Speaker 4: And I'm at the place I'm and I even before

560
00:28:19,226 --> 00:28:20,826
Speaker 4: I was at the place, I guess I just always

561
00:28:20,866 --> 00:28:22,986
Speaker 4: had the attitude. I do not want to work on

562
00:28:23,066 --> 00:28:26,386
Speaker 4: anything that's not fun, you know, unless it's going to

563
00:28:26,426 --> 00:28:30,906
Speaker 4: pay a crazy amount of money. But my whole life

564
00:28:31,026 --> 00:28:32,706
Speaker 4: is too short. I just want to have fun. I

565
00:28:32,706 --> 00:28:35,946
Speaker 4: want to be able to play around and be in

566
00:28:35,986 --> 00:28:39,346
Speaker 4: a set that is there's laughter and joy, and that

567
00:28:39,466 --> 00:28:42,826
Speaker 4: SAT always had, you know, there was a lot of laps,

568
00:28:42,866 --> 00:28:44,306
Speaker 4: a lot of laps on that, and it was a

569
00:28:44,306 --> 00:28:48,186
Speaker 4: really fun privilege that a lot of actors don't get

570
00:28:48,226 --> 00:28:49,026
Speaker 4: to have, you.

571
00:28:48,986 --> 00:28:51,706
Speaker 1: Know, And look at that show. And again, now you've

572
00:28:51,706 --> 00:28:53,546
Speaker 1: got mister Show and you've got a rest development. You're

573
00:28:53,586 --> 00:28:56,226
Speaker 1: stacking these huge hit shows that everyone loves, cult favorite

574
00:28:56,226 --> 00:28:58,866
Speaker 1: one of them, the other one is a massive mainstream favorite.

575
00:28:58,906 --> 00:29:00,986
Speaker 1: All this stuff, and yet you're still on the road

576
00:29:01,226 --> 00:29:03,026
Speaker 1: and you still do the stand up comedy and you're

577
00:29:03,066 --> 00:29:06,146
Speaker 1: on tour right now, and I'm sure the audience comes

578
00:29:06,506 --> 00:29:08,586
Speaker 1: for all of it and they come from all the corners.

579
00:29:08,626 --> 00:29:11,466
Speaker 1: But the life on the road, I mean, you've got

580
00:29:12,386 --> 00:29:15,186
Speaker 1: your father like it is. It is a grind, and

581
00:29:15,266 --> 00:29:17,266
Speaker 1: yet you're still doing it. Do you have a passion

582
00:29:17,266 --> 00:29:18,506
Speaker 1: for it or is this one of those things where

583
00:29:18,506 --> 00:29:20,386
Speaker 1: you're like, it's just in my blood that I've got

584
00:29:20,386 --> 00:29:20,546
Speaker 1: to be.

585
00:29:20,586 --> 00:29:20,946
Speaker 4: On the road.

586
00:29:20,946 --> 00:29:22,506
Speaker 2: It's just what I do. I'm a stand up comedian.

587
00:29:22,626 --> 00:29:28,506
Speaker 4: It's I mean, it's both. It's uh, it's I had

588
00:29:28,506 --> 00:29:33,746
Speaker 4: this revelation not too long ago that I was talking

589
00:29:33,786 --> 00:29:37,826
Speaker 4: to my wife about it, like I've realized, I'm I

590
00:29:37,946 --> 00:29:41,106
Speaker 4: do all these things. I do, I write, I act,

591
00:29:41,186 --> 00:29:46,546
Speaker 4: I produce a direct, I do stand up, but I've realized, like, oh,

592
00:29:46,586 --> 00:29:48,786
Speaker 4: I'm a I'm a stand up Those other things are

593
00:29:49,026 --> 00:29:51,666
Speaker 4: fun things to do. But I'm I think it. I

594
00:29:51,786 --> 00:29:55,066
Speaker 4: felt it when I had to cancel the last tour

595
00:29:55,146 --> 00:29:57,786
Speaker 4: that I was going to do because of COVID and

596
00:29:57,826 --> 00:30:00,826
Speaker 4: I had the set was already and I was looking

597
00:30:00,866 --> 00:30:03,906
Speaker 4: forward to going out and h and then had to

598
00:30:03,906 --> 00:30:06,666
Speaker 4: cancel it, and it and it hit me more more

599
00:30:07,346 --> 00:30:11,866
Speaker 4: than I expected it to. Was really disappointing, really, and

600
00:30:11,906 --> 00:30:15,306
Speaker 4: I miss it and I and I'm out on the

601
00:30:15,386 --> 00:30:17,666
Speaker 4: road now, and as you said, it's a grind, and

602
00:30:17,706 --> 00:30:22,146
Speaker 4: it kind of you know, I used to go out

603
00:30:22,146 --> 00:30:24,306
Speaker 4: and I have the whole family, or before I had

604
00:30:24,306 --> 00:30:27,546
Speaker 4: a daughter, just go out and have a tour bus

605
00:30:27,546 --> 00:30:30,826
Speaker 4: and it was easy. And because my daughter's in school

606
00:30:30,866 --> 00:30:32,226
Speaker 4: and I want to be here as much as I can,

607
00:30:32,306 --> 00:30:35,746
Speaker 4: I basically am going out, you know, three or four days,

608
00:30:36,066 --> 00:30:37,866
Speaker 4: and then I'm home for three or four days and

609
00:30:37,906 --> 00:30:40,866
Speaker 4: I'm out for the weekends and you know, Thursday through

610
00:30:40,946 --> 00:30:44,426
Speaker 4: Sunday whatever. And it's it's hard because you just got

611
00:30:44,626 --> 00:30:47,946
Speaker 4: some ear either in a car for six hours my

612
00:30:48,106 --> 00:30:51,426
Speaker 4: next gig the next morning, or you're getting up and

613
00:30:51,466 --> 00:30:55,906
Speaker 4: you're in a small airport making a connector through Charlotte

614
00:30:55,986 --> 00:30:59,746
Speaker 4: to get to Omaha or whatever, and that part is

615
00:30:59,746 --> 00:31:01,426
Speaker 4: a grind. And you know, I do an hour and

616
00:31:01,466 --> 00:31:05,626
Speaker 4: a half and then I'm doing these meet and greets later,

617
00:31:05,666 --> 00:31:08,426
Speaker 4: so I'm white by the end. I drink a lot.

618
00:31:08,506 --> 00:31:11,906
Speaker 4: I can't not in an alcoholic way, I just in

619
00:31:11,986 --> 00:31:17,786
Speaker 4: a I can't stop drinking. So yeah, it's it is

620
00:31:17,866 --> 00:31:19,786
Speaker 4: a grind, but I love it. I love I love

621
00:31:19,866 --> 00:31:23,426
Speaker 4: this set I'm doing now. It's probably my favorite set

622
00:31:23,426 --> 00:31:26,106
Speaker 4: I've done in a long time. And what we've done

623
00:31:26,186 --> 00:31:28,986
Speaker 4: like forty two shows, I think, and we've got another

624
00:31:30,066 --> 00:31:33,506
Speaker 4: thirty five or so. I'm gonna take the summer off,

625
00:31:33,546 --> 00:31:37,066
Speaker 4: but then I'm back in September October and I'll go

626
00:31:37,106 --> 00:31:39,906
Speaker 4: to Europe for a little bit. And it's the thing

627
00:31:40,066 --> 00:31:43,426
Speaker 4: that if we lived in some weird world where they're like,

628
00:31:43,506 --> 00:31:46,066
Speaker 4: you can't do pick one thing, you had to pick

629
00:31:46,106 --> 00:31:47,506
Speaker 4: one thing, it would definitely be stand up.

630
00:31:48,186 --> 00:31:50,266
Speaker 1: Let me ask you, as a stand up for many

631
00:31:50,346 --> 00:31:54,226
Speaker 1: years without kids and without children, and would you ever

632
00:31:54,306 --> 00:31:57,906
Speaker 1: roll your eyes at like here's my parenting set or

633
00:31:57,946 --> 00:32:00,586
Speaker 1: here's my bit on kids youth sports.

634
00:32:01,026 --> 00:32:02,546
Speaker 2: And then now it's like, oh.

635
00:32:02,386 --> 00:32:04,306
Speaker 1: No, no, I totally get it, and like that is

636
00:32:04,346 --> 00:32:06,386
Speaker 1: where I'm going with this stuff because everyone can relate.

637
00:32:06,586 --> 00:32:10,746
Speaker 4: Oh, I mean I would only roll my eyes at

638
00:32:10,786 --> 00:32:14,266
Speaker 4: like an hour of that. I hate those those things,

639
00:32:14,266 --> 00:32:17,506
Speaker 4: like I would the idea of like an evening of

640
00:32:17,786 --> 00:32:22,706
Speaker 4: comedy about being a parent is that sounds awful? And

641
00:32:22,746 --> 00:32:25,946
Speaker 4: I have, you know, I have plenty of jokes or

642
00:32:25,986 --> 00:32:32,106
Speaker 4: bits or observations about having a kid that I well,

643
00:32:32,346 --> 00:32:34,706
Speaker 4: I have because I have a kid. But I mean

644
00:32:34,706 --> 00:32:38,626
Speaker 4: that's probably no more than thirty percent of my set.

645
00:32:38,706 --> 00:32:41,786
Speaker 4: And it's really about other things. It's not about simply

646
00:32:41,866 --> 00:32:44,186
Speaker 4: like my kid did this thing and no, no, no,

647
00:32:44,306 --> 00:32:47,546
Speaker 4: it's really about the things around it. You know.

648
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Speaker 1: You grew up in Georgia. Yeah, football allegiances college and

649
00:32:55,986 --> 00:32:58,386
Speaker 1: pro would be what well.

650
00:32:58,266 --> 00:33:01,226
Speaker 4: Pros the Falcons. Of course I was going to. I

651
00:33:01,266 --> 00:33:03,666
Speaker 4: was gonna I know this isn't this is just audio,

652
00:33:03,706 --> 00:33:07,306
Speaker 4: but I was gonna wear my one off limited edition ABC.

653
00:33:07,666 --> 00:33:09,906
Speaker 1: Steve Barkowski, who were rolling with what do we got?

654
00:33:09,986 --> 00:33:11,706
Speaker 1: What are we talking about?

655
00:33:11,906 --> 00:33:12,346
Speaker 2: Matt Ryan?

656
00:33:12,426 --> 00:33:16,626
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, I he was not the issue with

657
00:33:16,666 --> 00:33:19,706
Speaker 4: that team, and it's true he wasn't. And I really

658
00:33:19,786 --> 00:33:21,746
Speaker 4: I've gotten a lot of arguments. Yeah, it was a

659
00:33:21,746 --> 00:33:24,506
Speaker 4: big Steve Barkowski fan. You know, there hasn't been a

660
00:33:24,626 --> 00:33:27,666
Speaker 4: whole lot to be excited about as a Falcons fan,

661
00:33:27,906 --> 00:33:32,306
Speaker 4: but cautiously optimistic about the coming years, you know, yes,

662
00:33:32,786 --> 00:33:36,586
Speaker 4: Desmond does and you know, we'll see.

663
00:33:36,426 --> 00:33:40,946
Speaker 1: It's cool like the Falcons fandum is like you've had

664
00:33:40,946 --> 00:33:43,626
Speaker 1: this Super Bowl year in ninety nine where it's kind

665
00:33:43,626 --> 00:33:45,146
Speaker 1: of out of nowhere and it's a dirty bird and

666
00:33:45,186 --> 00:33:47,706
Speaker 1: all that. And then at twenty sixteen with Matt Ryan,

667
00:33:48,026 --> 00:33:50,146
Speaker 1: he goes and wins the MVP, and obviously the super

668
00:33:50,146 --> 00:33:51,066
Speaker 1: Bowl goes as it goes.

669
00:33:51,106 --> 00:33:52,186
Speaker 2: We don't have to go down that road.

670
00:33:52,466 --> 00:33:54,666
Speaker 1: It's funny you say, Matt Ryan he just retired or

671
00:33:54,746 --> 00:33:56,946
Speaker 1: he's taking a job at CBS. He might come back,

672
00:33:56,986 --> 00:33:58,826
Speaker 1: He's gonna be an announcer. And we had a debate

673
00:33:58,866 --> 00:34:02,866
Speaker 1: on our morning show on NFL Network. Is Matt Ryan underappreciated?

674
00:34:03,586 --> 00:34:07,066
Speaker 1: And my case is he's been wildly underappreciate because the

675
00:34:07,106 --> 00:34:09,306
Speaker 1: first thing out of everyone's mouth is twenty eight to three,

676
00:34:09,346 --> 00:34:11,226
Speaker 1: how he lost Super Bowl, not the fact he was

677
00:34:11,226 --> 00:34:13,026
Speaker 1: an MVP and a starting quarterback in the league for

678
00:34:13,066 --> 00:34:14,866
Speaker 1: fifteen straight years. One of the hardest things to do

679
00:34:15,266 --> 00:34:15,986
Speaker 1: is durability.

680
00:34:16,026 --> 00:34:20,946
Speaker 4: He didn't lose the Super Bowl, the choice to pass

681
00:34:22,226 --> 00:34:27,506
Speaker 4: three times Super Bowl, the head coaching lost defense. I mean,

682
00:34:27,626 --> 00:34:31,826
Speaker 4: it's a team sport, but would I would totally blame

683
00:34:32,346 --> 00:34:34,826
Speaker 4: the coaching on that. I mean, that was crazy. We

684
00:34:34,906 --> 00:34:40,026
Speaker 4: all sat there going, what the Yeah, that's not Matt

685
00:34:40,106 --> 00:34:44,146
Speaker 4: Ryan's fault. And the only knock I can give Matt

686
00:34:44,226 --> 00:34:49,746
Speaker 4: Ryan is he's you know, not very mobile, right and shut,

687
00:34:49,866 --> 00:34:53,826
Speaker 4: and in this in the certainly the latter half of

688
00:34:53,866 --> 00:34:57,226
Speaker 4: his career that there was a shift to that kind

689
00:34:57,226 --> 00:35:01,266
Speaker 4: of quarterback and offense, and it was like he straddled

690
00:35:01,266 --> 00:35:04,746
Speaker 4: two generations in a way. But again, like I said,

691
00:35:04,786 --> 00:35:08,026
Speaker 4: he was not the problem or certainly not the sole

692
00:35:08,106 --> 00:35:10,826
Speaker 4: problem of that team, and getting rid of him for

693
00:35:12,026 --> 00:35:15,666
Speaker 4: Marcus Mariota is like, Okay, what did you why? What

694
00:35:15,666 --> 00:35:20,306
Speaker 4: what are you doing? And you didn't get anything? Yeah,

695
00:35:20,386 --> 00:35:24,306
Speaker 4: I mean he's he's underappreciated certainly in that context.

696
00:35:24,386 --> 00:35:27,146
Speaker 1: You know, Yeah, did you have college football? I know

697
00:35:27,186 --> 00:35:29,386
Speaker 1: it's a huge college football time. You were what Roswell

698
00:35:29,426 --> 00:35:30,266
Speaker 1: Georgia is where you from?

699
00:35:30,346 --> 00:35:33,826
Speaker 4: Yeah? I mean I didn't. I wanted to go to

700
00:35:33,906 --> 00:35:36,866
Speaker 4: Uga and all my friends went to Uga after high school,

701
00:35:36,906 --> 00:35:40,586
Speaker 4: but I wasn't accepted there. It actually became the premise

702
00:35:40,626 --> 00:35:44,026
Speaker 4: of a mister show bit. That's a real thing. The guy,

703
00:35:44,226 --> 00:35:48,906
Speaker 4: this guy Moe Phelps, who's dead, but he was a

704
00:35:48,946 --> 00:35:51,426
Speaker 4: dean of admissions, and this whole thing became a mister

705
00:35:51,466 --> 00:35:54,146
Speaker 4: show bit where we quote him for real what he

706
00:35:54,226 --> 00:35:58,066
Speaker 4: told me about going to Uga, and because I drove

707
00:35:58,186 --> 00:36:01,266
Speaker 4: up there to have it, what did he say? He

708
00:36:01,346 --> 00:36:04,306
Speaker 4: asked me what. Uh. And this is after you know,

709
00:36:04,386 --> 00:36:07,706
Speaker 4: they won the Sugar Bowl. There was a championship with

710
00:36:08,026 --> 00:36:10,746
Speaker 4: herschel Walker and everything. And he's like, you know what

711
00:36:10,786 --> 00:36:12,146
Speaker 4: did what do you want to major in? And I

712
00:36:12,146 --> 00:36:16,346
Speaker 4: said acting? And he said acting. He's just all southern

713
00:36:16,706 --> 00:36:19,906
Speaker 4: just you know, the old Selden, good old boy a

714
00:36:19,946 --> 00:36:24,586
Speaker 4: ball and short sleeve Polly Astra shirt. You know when

715
00:36:24,586 --> 00:36:29,226
Speaker 4: he goes, uh, what's acting? But just jumping up and

716
00:36:29,266 --> 00:36:32,826
Speaker 4: down on stage and yelling and screaming a lot. And

717
00:36:33,506 --> 00:36:39,146
Speaker 4: you know what, I and I just drove up there,

718
00:36:39,426 --> 00:36:44,506
Speaker 4: you know, and just before Athens was all kindect accessibly

719
00:36:44,706 --> 00:36:46,586
Speaker 4: he had to go through these small towns everything get

720
00:36:46,586 --> 00:36:51,386
Speaker 4: there and paying the ass and and I just I

721
00:36:51,426 --> 00:36:54,546
Speaker 4: was like, I don't I don't know what to say

722
00:36:54,586 --> 00:36:58,666
Speaker 4: to that. There's no I mean, I could say a

723
00:36:58,746 --> 00:37:02,426
Speaker 4: logical response, but it's what kind of conversation would go.

724
00:37:03,746 --> 00:37:07,186
Speaker 1: I was like, okay, did you start list actors like

725
00:37:07,226 --> 00:37:10,466
Speaker 1: there's this guy, Marlon Brando, you know, like these are great.

726
00:37:10,586 --> 00:37:16,986
Speaker 4: It was clear that this was kind of a feudal thing,

727
00:37:17,346 --> 00:37:20,506
Speaker 4: and I know, I just sort of we had another

728
00:37:20,986 --> 00:37:24,426
Speaker 4: probably five minutes of talking. Thank you very much. Please

729
00:37:24,466 --> 00:37:28,786
Speaker 4: consider my application, and then I left. I was like, well,

730
00:37:29,026 --> 00:37:34,266
Speaker 4: they're not gonna me. I ended up taking a year

731
00:37:34,306 --> 00:37:36,266
Speaker 4: off and then going to school in Boston, which was

732
00:37:36,866 --> 00:37:37,426
Speaker 4: just as well.

733
00:37:37,666 --> 00:37:40,946
Speaker 1: Yeah, it worked out a couple more things and one

734
00:37:40,946 --> 00:37:42,466
Speaker 1: of the deals. It's not like a fun topic, but

735
00:37:42,506 --> 00:37:44,706
Speaker 1: for our listeners who follow the NFL, like the writer's

736
00:37:44,746 --> 00:37:46,426
Speaker 1: strike is going on right now, I saw you were

737
00:37:46,426 --> 00:37:49,386
Speaker 1: out there on the front lines, just top line.

738
00:37:49,426 --> 00:37:51,146
Speaker 2: If you were someone to say, hey, give me the.

739
00:37:52,626 --> 00:37:55,226
Speaker 1: Main points of this, of where the writers are coming from,

740
00:37:55,226 --> 00:37:57,306
Speaker 1: and I know you've been obviously you're not the voice

741
00:37:57,346 --> 00:37:59,626
Speaker 1: of the Writers Union by any chance, of the Writers Guild,

742
00:37:59,906 --> 00:38:01,866
Speaker 1: but just so that we know if the viewers are like,

743
00:38:01,866 --> 00:38:03,466
Speaker 1: where the hell are my favorite shows in the fall?

744
00:38:03,786 --> 00:38:04,826
Speaker 2: What you guys are fighting for?

745
00:38:05,146 --> 00:38:09,746
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, very simply put, just fairness, a fair

746
00:38:10,386 --> 00:38:14,026
Speaker 4: A lot of this is not about hey, I want

747
00:38:14,186 --> 00:38:17,946
Speaker 4: you know, one hundred dollars an hour. It's really it's

748
00:38:18,306 --> 00:38:21,466
Speaker 4: much like the last strike in two thousand and eight.

749
00:38:21,586 --> 00:38:25,066
Speaker 4: It's about new technology and new things that have come

750
00:38:25,146 --> 00:38:29,346
Speaker 4: up since the last negotiation that nobody had planned for

751
00:38:29,506 --> 00:38:33,146
Speaker 4: the last time, it was about DVDs, like our writer

752
00:38:33,306 --> 00:38:36,466
Speaker 4: is going to be compensated since all their work is

753
00:38:36,466 --> 00:38:41,026
Speaker 4: coming out on DVD, you know, akin to actors residuals,

754
00:38:41,106 --> 00:38:44,186
Speaker 4: you know. And this time a big part of it

755
00:38:44,226 --> 00:38:48,626
Speaker 4: is about AI and making sure that writers aren't replaced

756
00:38:48,666 --> 00:38:57,706
Speaker 4: by robots. And it's just about fairness, not necessarily right now,

757
00:38:57,746 --> 00:39:00,906
Speaker 4: but before what we are looking for in the future,

758
00:39:00,986 --> 00:39:03,706
Speaker 4: which has always been it's one hundred percent of the time.

759
00:39:04,146 --> 00:39:07,386
Speaker 4: You have to anticipate what is going to happen it's

760
00:39:07,666 --> 00:39:10,306
Speaker 4: ten years from now, and be prepared for it and

761
00:39:10,346 --> 00:39:16,546
Speaker 4: be compensated and just fair. It's just I can't make

762
00:39:16,586 --> 00:39:19,506
Speaker 4: it any more simple than saying it's about fairness. It's

763
00:39:19,546 --> 00:39:24,666
Speaker 4: about paying. Without writers, there's no show, all right. And

764
00:39:24,706 --> 00:39:27,106
Speaker 4: I don't care how many computers you get, you're not

765
00:39:27,146 --> 00:39:30,946
Speaker 4: going to write, you know, Succession and that's all and

766
00:39:31,026 --> 00:39:36,626
Speaker 4: Arrested Development and Severance and all these you know, Breaking

767
00:39:36,706 --> 00:39:40,306
Speaker 4: Bad and Sopranos and all these shows aren't going to

768
00:39:40,346 --> 00:39:44,826
Speaker 4: be written by computers, you know. And and you don't

769
00:39:44,866 --> 00:39:47,386
Speaker 4: have those things without the writer, and the writers, like

770
00:39:47,466 --> 00:39:51,746
Speaker 4: the has always been like the least kind of celebrated

771
00:39:51,986 --> 00:39:55,346
Speaker 4: but arguably the most important part. Nothing exists without the

772
00:39:55,546 --> 00:39:57,906
Speaker 4: concept and the idea and the story and the dialogue

773
00:39:57,906 --> 00:40:03,626
Speaker 4: and all that, and you know, we've never been compensated correctly,

774
00:40:04,186 --> 00:40:08,826
Speaker 4: and this strike is just about getting to the bare

775
00:40:09,026 --> 00:40:15,226
Speaker 4: minimum of fairness. And these studios and the streamers and

776
00:40:15,266 --> 00:40:20,386
Speaker 4: the producers have literally hundreds of billions of dollars and

777
00:40:20,426 --> 00:40:22,986
Speaker 4: they're not willing to. It's the it's the age old

778
00:40:23,066 --> 00:40:29,626
Speaker 4: problem and and so really it's it's about the future.

779
00:40:29,706 --> 00:40:32,186
Speaker 4: It's not about right now. It's not about we want,

780
00:40:32,506 --> 00:40:36,666
Speaker 4: you know, mansion and it's not about that. It's about

781
00:40:37,026 --> 00:40:44,066
Speaker 4: protecting ourselves for what is going to happen to four, six,

782
00:40:44,146 --> 00:40:45,026
Speaker 4: eight years from now.

783
00:40:45,386 --> 00:40:47,466
Speaker 1: It's chilling because you say the AI thing, and I

784
00:40:47,466 --> 00:40:49,266
Speaker 1: think a lot of people who aren't in the room

785
00:40:49,266 --> 00:40:51,706
Speaker 1: are there, like Robot, they're not going to And the

786
00:40:51,786 --> 00:40:54,706
Speaker 1: response from the studios, apparently whatever their union is, was

787
00:40:55,066 --> 00:40:57,226
Speaker 1: we'll revisit it once a year. And you're like, whoa,

788
00:40:57,866 --> 00:40:59,986
Speaker 1: that's not a you know, And that's a chilling response.

789
00:41:00,346 --> 00:41:04,386
Speaker 1: That's scary. The other part is I listen to a

790
00:41:04,386 --> 00:41:08,066
Speaker 1: different podcast in Danny McBride on it yesterday and he said,

791
00:41:08,386 --> 00:41:11,786
Speaker 1: just out of curiosity, he was like, chat GPT make

792
00:41:12,106 --> 00:41:15,186
Speaker 1: a righteous gemstone script and he's like, and it sucked

793
00:41:15,586 --> 00:41:17,666
Speaker 1: He's like, it sucked, and it really sucked.

794
00:41:17,746 --> 00:41:20,186
Speaker 2: And just so you know, the equality will not be

795
00:41:20,306 --> 00:41:21,066
Speaker 2: what you want it to be.

796
00:41:21,346 --> 00:41:23,266
Speaker 4: It's not not even going to be close. Come on,

797
00:41:23,386 --> 00:41:27,826
Speaker 4: it's not. It's it and you know it's so yes,

798
00:41:27,866 --> 00:41:32,106
Speaker 4: it's about protecting ourselves from that because the studio. I mean, look,

799
00:41:32,146 --> 00:41:35,266
Speaker 4: this is a free market, capitalistic society. They're going to

800
00:41:35,346 --> 00:41:36,866
Speaker 4: throw stuff out there. It's why we have so much

801
00:41:36,906 --> 00:41:39,306
Speaker 4: reality TV is because of the two thousand and eight strike,

802
00:41:39,946 --> 00:41:43,426
Speaker 4: and it's way cheaper to produce, and you wouldn't have,

803
00:41:44,186 --> 00:41:48,346
Speaker 4: you know, nineteen versions of vandr.

804
00:41:48,106 --> 00:41:51,186
Speaker 2: Pump Love Island or vander Housewives.

805
00:41:53,426 --> 00:41:56,306
Speaker 4: I mean that may be satisfying and entertaining for some people,

806
00:41:56,346 --> 00:42:00,666
Speaker 4: but other people want a story, you know, and as

807
00:42:00,706 --> 00:42:04,066
Speaker 4: I said, chat Ai is not going to do it.

808
00:42:04,426 --> 00:42:06,106
Speaker 1: You and your wife are both actors. You guys are

809
00:42:06,146 --> 00:42:07,786
Speaker 1: so the thick of it. Like, do you guys still

810
00:42:07,826 --> 00:42:10,946
Speaker 1: find time to watch other shows? Like yeah, is there

811
00:42:11,226 --> 00:42:13,466
Speaker 1: in your Like you're like Successions tonight, Like we're watching.

812
00:42:13,266 --> 00:42:16,826
Speaker 4: Yes, we we are. My wife has to catch up

813
00:42:16,826 --> 00:42:20,506
Speaker 4: from last week's we'll watch tonight. We'll watch the last two.

814
00:42:20,546 --> 00:42:26,746
Speaker 4: But Succession, for sure, I just did season four of

815
00:42:26,786 --> 00:42:32,626
Speaker 4: the Umbrella Academy Cool, which I had I was familiar

816
00:42:32,706 --> 00:42:35,066
Speaker 4: with as like a cultural thing, but I didn't. I'd

817
00:42:35,066 --> 00:42:37,826
Speaker 4: never seen it. I knew people loved it. I knew

818
00:42:38,426 --> 00:42:42,186
Speaker 4: that it was popular, you know, And so I started

819
00:42:42,226 --> 00:42:45,626
Speaker 4: watching it, and like both my wife and I became

820
00:42:45,706 --> 00:42:48,666
Speaker 4: hooked and we're all caught up now. And then I

821
00:42:48,706 --> 00:42:53,546
Speaker 4: got my sister hooked on it, my mom, who's eighty five.

822
00:42:53,786 --> 00:42:59,466
Speaker 4: So we binge watched that. We watched, we watched Succession, Severance,

823
00:42:59,746 --> 00:43:01,306
Speaker 4: waiting patiently for that.

824
00:43:02,306 --> 00:43:04,626
Speaker 1: Patient that if that's your boys still are, tell him like, bro,

825
00:43:04,866 --> 00:43:05,306
Speaker 1: like at.

826
00:43:05,146 --> 00:43:07,506
Speaker 2: Some point like like, let's.

827
00:43:07,306 --> 00:43:09,666
Speaker 4: Got all the writers strike affected them too, you know,

828
00:43:11,306 --> 00:43:13,906
Speaker 4: but they're all pro, right, all these you know, almost

829
00:43:13,946 --> 00:43:17,626
Speaker 4: everybody is pro on the writer's side.

830
00:43:16,666 --> 00:43:16,906
Speaker 2: Yeah.

831
00:43:17,866 --> 00:43:22,386
Speaker 4: And oh and Top Chef, big Top Chef fan, really

832
00:43:22,386 --> 00:43:23,666
Speaker 4: big Top Chef fan. Yeah.

833
00:43:23,786 --> 00:43:25,826
Speaker 1: I love it all right, my last one. You've been

834
00:43:25,826 --> 00:43:27,826
Speaker 1: asked about it before. I heard you with Mark Maron

835
00:43:27,906 --> 00:43:29,946
Speaker 1: years ago, and I like loved the competition on it,

836
00:43:30,026 --> 00:43:32,626
Speaker 1: and I've tell you I have Disney Plus it was

837
00:43:32,826 --> 00:43:36,066
Speaker 1: height of the pandemic. You're looking for something, bro, you

838
00:43:36,146 --> 00:43:38,746
Speaker 1: might not want to talk on it. I love the

839
00:43:38,826 --> 00:43:41,386
Speaker 1: Chipmunks movies, dude, and you're great in them and you

840
00:43:41,426 --> 00:43:42,866
Speaker 1: were clever and you're fun.

841
00:43:42,866 --> 00:43:44,106
Speaker 2: And I don't know if you run away from that

842
00:43:44,186 --> 00:43:44,666
Speaker 2: talk or not.

843
00:43:45,186 --> 00:43:46,826
Speaker 4: No, no, I have no. I mean it was.

844
00:43:48,986 --> 00:43:51,506
Speaker 1: I'm you're great in them. You understand that, right, Like

845
00:43:51,546 --> 00:43:51,946
Speaker 1: you're great.

846
00:43:52,386 --> 00:43:56,666
Speaker 4: I when I get hired for something, I will talk

847
00:43:56,706 --> 00:44:00,146
Speaker 4: to the director, producer, whatever, and I assume I bring

848
00:44:00,146 --> 00:44:02,626
Speaker 4: it up, like you guys are hiring me in part

849
00:44:02,666 --> 00:44:07,026
Speaker 4: because I I play around and I be right and

850
00:44:07,066 --> 00:44:10,266
Speaker 4: I offer things up and I improvise and I assume

851
00:44:10,346 --> 00:44:13,106
Speaker 4: that's what you want. And they were no different, and

852
00:44:13,146 --> 00:44:17,506
Speaker 4: it was It wasn't a bad experience. It was just

853
00:44:17,546 --> 00:44:20,426
Speaker 4: sort of an interesting thing. And everybody I worked with

854
00:44:20,786 --> 00:44:23,386
Speaker 4: on the first two films were great. And then the

855
00:44:23,426 --> 00:44:26,986
Speaker 4: third film was I don't know why. I mean, i'll

856
00:44:26,986 --> 00:44:27,786
Speaker 4: write about it.

857
00:44:29,466 --> 00:44:30,306
Speaker 1: Tell me everything.

858
00:44:30,306 --> 00:44:31,346
Speaker 2: I don't know this, so tell me.

859
00:44:31,586 --> 00:44:31,906
Speaker 1: I just know.

860
00:44:32,146 --> 00:44:34,586
Speaker 5: Honestly, I know the first one, and I know the

861
00:44:34,626 --> 00:44:36,746
Speaker 5: squeakl those are my chance.

862
00:44:36,986 --> 00:44:40,546
Speaker 4: Schipwrecked was chip wrecked.

863
00:44:40,666 --> 00:44:42,186
Speaker 1: I never saw chipwreck.

864
00:44:42,586 --> 00:44:46,346
Speaker 4: That don't don't. It would be weird if you did,

865
00:44:46,386 --> 00:44:49,226
Speaker 4: now that your your kids are grown or whatever. Like

866
00:44:49,506 --> 00:44:51,466
Speaker 4: I'm just ha hanging out. Honey, I'm just gonna watch

867
00:44:51,546 --> 00:44:52,346
Speaker 4: chipp tonight.

868
00:44:53,026 --> 00:44:56,106
Speaker 5: So what was the promise plot and tell me take

869
00:44:56,186 --> 00:44:56,946
Speaker 5: us through Chipwreck?

870
00:44:57,506 --> 00:45:03,386
Speaker 4: It was, uh, my character. Well, first of all, I

871
00:45:05,826 --> 00:45:12,826
Speaker 4: know that they're was this really blatant gross product placement

872
00:45:12,866 --> 00:45:17,306
Speaker 4: thing with Carnival Cruise line. It takes place, the whole

873
00:45:17,346 --> 00:45:19,666
Speaker 4: thing for most most of it takes place on a

874
00:45:19,706 --> 00:45:24,946
Speaker 4: carnival cruise in which the people that were on the

875
00:45:24,986 --> 00:45:28,066
Speaker 4: actual people that were on the carnival cruise did not

876
00:45:28,266 --> 00:45:30,906
Speaker 4: know that we were going to be shutting down big

877
00:45:31,106 --> 00:45:32,826
Speaker 4: sections of the cruise.

878
00:45:33,186 --> 00:45:34,986
Speaker 1: Oh you guys, did it rent out the cruise ship?

879
00:45:34,986 --> 00:45:37,346
Speaker 2: You did it while the actual cruise.

880
00:45:37,106 --> 00:45:37,746
Speaker 1: Was going on?

881
00:45:37,866 --> 00:45:42,066
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, yeah. And then I had this slide show

882
00:45:42,106 --> 00:45:44,426
Speaker 4: that I made. I used to do this and it

883
00:45:44,506 --> 00:45:49,786
Speaker 4: was called It's Just Fantasy Versus Reality, So you would

884
00:45:49,826 --> 00:45:53,506
Speaker 4: see I had tons of pictures of the extras and

885
00:45:53,786 --> 00:45:57,066
Speaker 4: set the people who were acting, you know, like they

886
00:45:57,066 --> 00:46:00,026
Speaker 4: took over like the water slide and the pool, the strengths,

887
00:46:00,226 --> 00:46:06,066
Speaker 4: and there are these hot like twenty something early thirties kids,

888
00:46:06,106 --> 00:46:09,666
Speaker 4: and then you just pan over to the real and

889
00:46:09,866 --> 00:46:13,106
Speaker 4: it was just oh boy, it was like the worst

890
00:46:13,266 --> 00:46:18,186
Speaker 4: of the worst of Florida and it was I it

891
00:46:18,226 --> 00:46:19,386
Speaker 4: was really it was.

892
00:46:19,346 --> 00:46:21,386
Speaker 2: Pretty How long was the shoot?

893
00:46:21,586 --> 00:46:24,906
Speaker 4: I think we were on the boat for ten days.

894
00:46:25,346 --> 00:46:28,626
Speaker 4: I think we were shooting for like seven of those days,

895
00:46:28,626 --> 00:46:30,586
Speaker 4: and then there were we were stuck on there and

896
00:46:30,626 --> 00:46:35,066
Speaker 4: there was no That was another thing. They one of

897
00:46:35,066 --> 00:46:36,946
Speaker 4: the first things you get in your room, which is tiny.

898
00:46:36,986 --> 00:46:38,146
Speaker 4: I don't know if you've been on a cruise.

899
00:46:38,466 --> 00:46:39,866
Speaker 2: I've never been on a cruise.

900
00:46:39,746 --> 00:46:42,426
Speaker 4: But there's the first thing. He is this little we

901
00:46:42,426 --> 00:46:46,546
Speaker 4: we got these little packages from production. There's no internet

902
00:46:46,626 --> 00:46:51,146
Speaker 4: on the boat. And if you shift to short calls,

903
00:46:51,186 --> 00:46:55,626
Speaker 4: if you need to make calls, like ninety dollars, so

904
00:46:56,986 --> 00:46:59,466
Speaker 4: you know you're you're kind of on this boat, which

905
00:46:59,626 --> 00:47:02,186
Speaker 4: from from the outside you're like, this is huge, just

906
00:47:02,306 --> 00:47:07,266
Speaker 4: as massive, but only half of that you're looking at

907
00:47:07,426 --> 00:47:11,386
Speaker 4: is accessible, like the rest of it is the inner

908
00:47:11,386 --> 00:47:15,346
Speaker 4: workings of the ocean liner and the and all that stuff.

909
00:47:15,386 --> 00:47:18,986
Speaker 4: So it's it's way more cramped than you would might imagine.

910
00:47:19,026 --> 00:47:22,306
Speaker 4: There's no and if you're a guy like me who

911
00:47:23,906 --> 00:47:26,866
Speaker 4: is one of those like, hey are you famous? Like

912
00:47:26,946 --> 00:47:29,506
Speaker 4: I get that a lot when I'm out. You know,

913
00:47:29,626 --> 00:47:30,906
Speaker 4: people don't know who I am.

914
00:47:30,986 --> 00:47:33,586
Speaker 2: So and then they recognize you, but they just what

915
00:47:33,666 --> 00:47:34,386
Speaker 2: do I know you from?

916
00:47:34,386 --> 00:47:36,066
Speaker 4: One of those and then they just want to know,

917
00:47:36,106 --> 00:47:38,106
Speaker 4: like how do I know you from? And I'm like

918
00:47:38,306 --> 00:47:42,586
Speaker 4: I don't know, no, no tell me. And so it

919
00:47:42,746 --> 00:47:46,786
Speaker 4: was ten days of that where it's like I just

920
00:47:47,026 --> 00:47:49,266
Speaker 4: I just would like to get something to eat. I

921
00:47:49,386 --> 00:47:52,346
Speaker 4: want run through my IMDb page.

922
00:47:53,986 --> 00:47:56,546
Speaker 1: Oh I loved you in the ten Yes, let's talk

923
00:47:56,546 --> 00:47:58,826
Speaker 1: about it. Let's go, Yes, you wish it was that,

924
00:47:58,946 --> 00:48:02,306
Speaker 1: you wish it was that? Oh my gosh, all right,

925
00:48:02,346 --> 00:48:04,386
Speaker 1: and then the movie wraps and you're like, I'm done

926
00:48:04,386 --> 00:48:06,066
Speaker 1: with this or you did have another one after that?

927
00:48:06,186 --> 00:48:09,506
Speaker 4: No, I was contractually obligated to do three, so I did.

928
00:48:09,626 --> 00:48:11,666
Speaker 4: That was my last one. That was. But they also

929
00:48:11,706 --> 00:48:14,026
Speaker 4: treated me very poorly. I don't know why. From the

930
00:48:14,146 --> 00:48:16,546
Speaker 4: very beginning, it was very strange. I was in London

931
00:48:17,066 --> 00:48:21,346
Speaker 4: to do the second series of Todd Margaret and Great

932
00:48:21,466 --> 00:48:24,706
Speaker 4: Decisions Tod Margaret. I don't want to bore everybody with this.

933
00:48:24,826 --> 00:48:28,026
Speaker 4: It's just we don't have to, you know, And I'm

934
00:48:28,066 --> 00:48:30,626
Speaker 4: producing the show. I'm not just you're the guy.

935
00:48:30,826 --> 00:48:32,946
Speaker 1: You're the producer or the actor everything.

936
00:48:33,706 --> 00:48:35,346
Speaker 4: The only reason I say that is to say that

937
00:48:35,466 --> 00:48:41,026
Speaker 4: I was responsible for about sixty jobs, you know, And

938
00:48:41,146 --> 00:48:44,266
Speaker 4: we have been asking for at least a year whether

939
00:48:44,346 --> 00:48:46,786
Speaker 4: I was going to be a part of the third thing,

940
00:48:46,826 --> 00:48:50,346
Speaker 4: because again I'm contractually obligated to do three. And they

941
00:48:50,466 --> 00:48:53,546
Speaker 4: kept saying no, I don't know, and they weren't very

942
00:48:53,986 --> 00:48:57,866
Speaker 4: helpful or forthcoming. And then I will never forget this

943
00:48:58,066 --> 00:49:01,066
Speaker 4: as long as I live. I was it was like Christmas,

944
00:49:02,346 --> 00:49:05,026
Speaker 4: and we're going to start shooting at about I want

945
00:49:05,026 --> 00:49:08,986
Speaker 4: to say four weeks, maybe three weeks, three or four weeks.

946
00:49:09,026 --> 00:49:11,826
Speaker 1: Scripts are done, actors are hired, we're.

947
00:49:11,706 --> 00:49:13,506
Speaker 4: In pre production. We're already, Oh we.

948
00:49:13,866 --> 00:49:17,106
Speaker 1: Have You're in London, You're like, I've.

949
00:49:16,986 --> 00:49:20,546
Speaker 4: Been there for months, and we're We've got sets being

950
00:49:20,546 --> 00:49:24,946
Speaker 4: built and people are hired, and again, you know, responsible

951
00:49:24,946 --> 00:49:29,306
Speaker 4: for roughly sixty jobs, and you know, and a lot

952
00:49:29,306 --> 00:49:31,706
Speaker 4: of these are friends of mine. Now we've we've been

953
00:49:31,746 --> 00:49:33,786
Speaker 4: doing the show. We did the pilot, and we did

954
00:49:33,786 --> 00:49:35,666
Speaker 4: the first series and now we're getting ready to do

955
00:49:35,706 --> 00:49:39,226
Speaker 4: the second. And I was at Herod's with my wife,

956
00:49:40,026 --> 00:49:42,506
Speaker 4: and which is kind of one of our little Christmas

957
00:49:42,546 --> 00:49:44,666
Speaker 4: traditions when we're in London, you go to the food

958
00:49:44,666 --> 00:49:50,506
Speaker 4: hall whatever. We're there, my phone rings and it says

959
00:49:50,546 --> 00:49:54,706
Speaker 4: like the team or uta team or whatever, and oh

960
00:49:54,746 --> 00:49:57,586
Speaker 4: and I just had a bad feeling immediately, you knew.

961
00:49:57,506 --> 00:49:59,146
Speaker 2: Like the agents are calling on Christmas?

962
00:49:59,146 --> 00:49:59,866
Speaker 1: What is going on?

963
00:50:00,066 --> 00:50:05,386
Speaker 4: And I answered the phone and it's and it's David.

964
00:50:05,426 --> 00:50:08,906
Speaker 4: I have She runs through my lawyer, my agent, and

965
00:50:08,986 --> 00:50:12,746
Speaker 4: my So that's only good or bad news, and it's

966
00:50:12,786 --> 00:50:14,306
Speaker 4: never anything in between.

967
00:50:14,146 --> 00:50:17,666
Speaker 1: When you're either in a Marvel movie or something's happening.

968
00:50:17,306 --> 00:50:20,746
Speaker 4: It's either really good news or really bad news. And

969
00:50:20,786 --> 00:50:25,546
Speaker 4: then my manager says, where are you? I explain. He goes, okay,

970
00:50:25,546 --> 00:50:29,226
Speaker 4: can you get somewhere, can you sit down somewhere? I know,

971
00:50:29,506 --> 00:50:31,386
Speaker 4: I know what it is. I know what you do.

972
00:50:31,706 --> 00:50:33,146
Speaker 2: It's been looming in the back of your mind, like

973
00:50:33,186 --> 00:50:34,706
Speaker 2: it's a chance. Yeah yeah.

974
00:50:34,826 --> 00:50:41,026
Speaker 4: And it's a long, boring story, Peter, but it's it's

975
00:50:41,066 --> 00:50:44,066
Speaker 4: it was awful and they were so unpleasant, so weird.

976
00:50:44,746 --> 00:50:47,066
Speaker 4: And then I get the script. Of course, Oh the

977
00:50:47,106 --> 00:50:49,506
Speaker 4: other thing. I will just say this, so not only

978
00:50:49,626 --> 00:50:54,146
Speaker 4: is the movie going, they want me to be in

979
00:50:54,706 --> 00:51:01,586
Speaker 4: Hawaii for rehearsals on January third, and I'm like, you know,

980
00:51:01,666 --> 00:51:04,186
Speaker 4: and my wife's not going on this trip right to

981
00:51:04,386 --> 00:51:07,706
Speaker 4: visit friends in Southern aw who were in the Peace

982
00:51:08,226 --> 00:51:13,066
Speaker 4: Southern in the Peace Cort. Yeah, so we're gonna yeah,

983
00:51:13,466 --> 00:51:16,346
Speaker 4: and and I'm like, I can't. I don't even get back.

984
00:51:17,146 --> 00:51:19,386
Speaker 4: I would have to go I can't even go get

985
00:51:19,426 --> 00:51:22,706
Speaker 4: to Hawaii from London and I have no clothes. I

986
00:51:22,706 --> 00:51:25,346
Speaker 4: would have to go to New York and stop in

987
00:51:25,466 --> 00:51:30,466
Speaker 4: and get proper clothing. And I'm also like, rehearsal, are you.

988
00:51:32,746 --> 00:51:33,946
Speaker 1: The animatronic?

989
00:51:35,146 --> 00:51:38,786
Speaker 4: And then it became clear pretty quickly they're just trying

990
00:51:38,826 --> 00:51:41,066
Speaker 4: to screw, trying to screw. Yeah, And there was this

991
00:51:41,106 --> 00:51:44,506
Speaker 4: whole thing with the trailer, like everybody had a nice trailer,

992
00:51:44,666 --> 00:51:47,426
Speaker 4: like a regular trailer, and I had this moldy, beat

993
00:51:47,506 --> 00:51:49,106
Speaker 4: up like hard thing.

994
00:51:49,626 --> 00:51:52,266
Speaker 2: That was on the on the ship or in Hawaii.

995
00:51:52,466 --> 00:51:56,306
Speaker 4: No, in Hawaii for the rehearsals for and the guys

996
00:51:56,346 --> 00:51:57,906
Speaker 4: saying like that's all. You know, there's a lot of

997
00:51:57,906 --> 00:52:00,546
Speaker 4: production Hawaii, that's all. And it's just clear there with

998
00:52:00,666 --> 00:52:01,226
Speaker 4: me and I've.

999
00:52:01,346 --> 00:52:03,346
Speaker 2: Ah was Jason Lee Was he in that one too?

1000
00:52:03,426 --> 00:52:04,586
Speaker 2: Or did he drop out or not?

1001
00:52:04,866 --> 00:52:05,146
Speaker 1: He was?

1002
00:52:05,266 --> 00:52:06,986
Speaker 4: He was still Dave And you know, we had a

1003
00:52:07,026 --> 00:52:10,306
Speaker 4: bunch of scenes together and yeah, and look I did

1004
00:52:10,746 --> 00:52:14,226
Speaker 4: I was professional and I did what I do and

1005
00:52:14,266 --> 00:52:15,946
Speaker 4: I tried to make it as good as possible. I

1006
00:52:15,986 --> 00:52:18,906
Speaker 4: tried to add things and I don't know, I don't

1007
00:52:18,946 --> 00:52:22,306
Speaker 4: know what. I'm not sure what their issue was. They

1008
00:52:22,346 --> 00:52:28,466
Speaker 4: never were very forthcoming about it. I have no idea.

1009
00:52:28,546 --> 00:52:30,746
Speaker 4: But then they withheld a bonus from me.

1010
00:52:31,306 --> 00:52:33,106
Speaker 1: Stop now we're getting to it now, I'm angry.

1011
00:52:33,426 --> 00:52:35,826
Speaker 4: Yeah, they withhold the bonus that it was supposed to

1012
00:52:35,826 --> 00:52:40,346
Speaker 4: get because contractually there was some language in there where

1013
00:52:40,386 --> 00:52:45,866
Speaker 4: I did something where I quote unquote disparaged the movie.

1014
00:52:46,066 --> 00:52:49,866
Speaker 4: And yeah, they're they're just there. It was strange. It

1015
00:52:49,946 --> 00:52:53,346
Speaker 4: was very odd and it's the only only experience I've

1016
00:52:53,386 --> 00:52:55,106
Speaker 4: had like that. I've never ever.

1017
00:52:55,346 --> 00:52:57,266
Speaker 5: Yeah, you've been in a million things, You've never yeah,

1018
00:52:57,586 --> 00:52:59,506
Speaker 5: like beloved, it's amazing.

1019
00:53:00,706 --> 00:53:02,986
Speaker 1: Real quick, before we wrap, what do you got going

1020
00:53:03,026 --> 00:53:04,586
Speaker 1: on now besides the tour?

1021
00:53:04,706 --> 00:53:05,506
Speaker 2: What else is shaken?

1022
00:53:05,546 --> 00:53:06,986
Speaker 1: And is there where else can we find you?

1023
00:53:07,226 --> 00:53:09,666
Speaker 4: I mean, as I said, the tour is going to

1024
00:53:09,706 --> 00:53:12,666
Speaker 4: be Uh, that's that's taken up most of my time.

1025
00:53:13,746 --> 00:53:16,546
Speaker 4: And if you want to see the upcoming dates again,

1026
00:53:16,586 --> 00:53:20,866
Speaker 4: we're going through October, but it just go to official

1027
00:53:20,986 --> 00:53:24,866
Speaker 4: David Cross dot com. That'll have all the dates coming up.

1028
00:53:24,946 --> 00:53:28,026
Speaker 4: A couple of places we're hitting again because they sold

1029
00:53:28,026 --> 00:53:31,026
Speaker 4: out really quickly. Good and the set has kind of

1030
00:53:31,026 --> 00:53:33,826
Speaker 4: evolved since I was there, So like, I'm in Denver

1031
00:53:34,666 --> 00:53:37,146
Speaker 4: a week from today, and the.

1032
00:53:37,146 --> 00:53:39,266
Speaker 1: Day after Memorial Day, you'll be in Denver.

1033
00:53:39,066 --> 00:53:41,066
Speaker 4: And that and that is the second time I'm in

1034
00:53:41,106 --> 00:53:44,346
Speaker 4: Denver and we've been doing I'm going back to Chicago

1035
00:53:44,706 --> 00:53:47,386
Speaker 4: and so you can take a look on there and

1036
00:53:47,626 --> 00:53:49,586
Speaker 4: and also Europe as well.

1037
00:53:49,746 --> 00:53:50,426
Speaker 2: Any movies.

1038
00:53:51,186 --> 00:53:53,426
Speaker 4: No, oh, yes, what what am I talking about. I

1039
00:53:53,466 --> 00:53:57,346
Speaker 4: just went to the screening last night. I'm out of it.

1040
00:53:57,386 --> 00:53:58,066
Speaker 4: I'm very tired.

1041
00:53:58,986 --> 00:53:59,666
Speaker 1: What's the film?

1042
00:54:00,106 --> 00:54:03,226
Speaker 4: You hurt my feelings? And it's really good. It was.

1043
00:54:04,426 --> 00:54:05,866
Speaker 4: That was the first time I had seen it, and

1044
00:54:05,906 --> 00:54:09,266
Speaker 4: it was really fun to shoot. I enjoyed it a lot.

1045
00:54:09,426 --> 00:54:11,666
Speaker 4: It was it was cool. And my wife and I

1046
00:54:11,746 --> 00:54:16,546
Speaker 4: play a couple in therapies. And my real wife and

1047
00:54:16,626 --> 00:54:20,306
Speaker 4: I Amber Tamblin play a couple that are in therapy,

1048
00:54:20,906 --> 00:54:24,826
Speaker 4: couple's therapy with this guy played by Tobias Menzies. We're

1049
00:54:24,866 --> 00:54:28,826
Speaker 4: just we're you know, we're supporting cast. It's really Julie

1050
00:54:28,906 --> 00:54:32,666
Speaker 4: Louis Dreyfuss and Tobias Menzies and it's a Nicole Hollup

1051
00:54:32,666 --> 00:54:35,426
Speaker 4: Center film and it's it's really good. It's really good.

1052
00:54:35,626 --> 00:54:36,266
Speaker 4: I enjoyed it.

1053
00:54:36,266 --> 00:54:37,266
Speaker 1: Awesome. That's cool.

1054
00:54:37,506 --> 00:54:40,906
Speaker 4: And then I'm going to be on Umbrella Academy Season four.

1055
00:54:41,586 --> 00:54:46,706
Speaker 4: Super great experience, really great set, really fun character to play,

1056
00:54:47,066 --> 00:54:49,466
Speaker 4: and just what a treat and an honor to be

1057
00:54:49,506 --> 00:54:52,546
Speaker 4: a part of that show and that experience that they

1058
00:54:52,546 --> 00:54:58,066
Speaker 4: were great. And and then also I'll be in Justified Primeval,

1059
00:54:58,266 --> 00:55:01,066
Speaker 4: which I don't know when that will be coming out, Okay,

1060
00:55:01,186 --> 00:55:07,066
Speaker 4: it's coming out shortly. And that's that's what I got

1061
00:55:07,386 --> 00:55:10,226
Speaker 4: in the pipeline. Come out. And again I'll be touring.

1062
00:55:10,266 --> 00:55:14,786
Speaker 4: I'm taking the summer off, but I'll be I'm on

1063
00:55:14,866 --> 00:55:19,306
Speaker 4: the road until July and then I will be back

1064
00:55:19,346 --> 00:55:20,306
Speaker 4: out in September.

1065
00:55:20,586 --> 00:55:24,306
Speaker 1: Great, dude, you're awesome. I so appreciate you taking the time.

1066
00:55:24,346 --> 00:55:26,586
Speaker 1: And know it's the first time we're meeting. It's always awkward, like, hey,

1067
00:55:26,706 --> 00:55:28,586
Speaker 1: good to meet you. We're going live on a podcast

1068
00:55:28,626 --> 00:55:31,066
Speaker 1: and an intimate thing about try But I appreciate you

1069
00:55:31,106 --> 00:55:32,506
Speaker 1: so much for taking the time, and I hope you

1070
00:55:32,586 --> 00:55:33,146
Speaker 1: enjoyed it too.

1071
00:55:33,346 --> 00:55:35,666
Speaker 4: I did. I did very much. And let's go watch

1072
00:55:35,666 --> 00:55:37,146
Speaker 4: a Falcon Saints game together.

1073
00:55:37,426 --> 00:55:38,346
Speaker 2: Yes we will.

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Speaker 1: We'll go watch Falcon Saints their new coach, Arthur Smith.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if if you're.

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Speaker 2: A great dude, smart guy.

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Speaker 1: And they drafted a running back eighth overalls guy Dejean Robinson,

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Speaker 1: who he might be the best running back to inner

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Speaker 1: the league since like Sakuon Barkley. So I feel very

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Speaker 1: good about the Falcons, but I always do in May.

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Speaker 1: So that's my feeling of confidence for you.

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Speaker 4: I was with me all right, guys, thank you so much.

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Speaker 1: Dear Cross is funny, Aaron. This is the goal of

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Speaker 1: the podcast. We're going to get you the Arthur Smith interview.

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Speaker 1: You're craving. We're gonna get you the you know, the

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Speaker 1: offensive line coach of the Saints someday. But I also

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Speaker 1: want to bring on guys that I love who have

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Speaker 1: entertained me for years. David Cross is hilarious In Arrested Development,

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Speaker 1: he was down playing it almost there, and yet I

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Speaker 1: think that just scratches the surface. You hurt my feelings

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Speaker 1: movie was talking about, which he was like, yeah, Julia

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Speaker 1: Louis Dreyfus is the star. That's a major star that

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Speaker 1: opens May twenty sixth, Justified City Primeval airs July eighteenth,

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Speaker 1: and then he's on tour Tuesday, the day after Memorial Day.

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Speaker 1: He's in Denver, where he said he's been sold out.

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Speaker 1: But Aaron David Cross cool as hell. Yeah, I loved it.

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Speaker 3: I also love as an actor from arrest Development. He's

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Speaker 3: a Falcons fan, and I think Falcons. This is I'm

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Speaker 3: pushing this wordplay a little too hard, but I think

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Speaker 3: Falcons might think their offense is in a state of

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Speaker 3: arrested development. And there we go. We tied it in perfectly.

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Speaker 1: Why I love you. I don't even know what the

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Speaker 1: state of arrested development would be, and yet it works. Guys,

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Speaker 1: Till next week, We've got more of these kind of

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Speaker 1: guests that are comedians, actors, entertainers. We're proactively seeking them out,

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Speaker 1: like this is the off season and I'm bringing on

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Speaker 1: guys and gals that I think are interesting.

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Speaker 2: And I don't know if you're getting.

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Speaker 5: That Chipmunks three chipwreck story anywhere else, but I'll take it.

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Speaker 5: Unbelievable behind the curtain, David Cross, nowhere else in podcasting

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Speaker 5: are you going to hear about Thursday night Flex scheduling

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Speaker 5: right into the Mister Show, Mister show. I was gonna

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Speaker 5: say chip Wreck, Yeah, Chipreck Carnival Cruise Lines. If you

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Speaker 5: want to be a sponsor, we're open and amenable to it,

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Speaker 5: if you want to be Just so it is until

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Speaker 5: next week.

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Speaker 1: Because my name is Peter Schrager. This is Aaron Wan Kauffman.

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Speaker 1: Our guest was David Cross, the incredible comedian and actor.

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Speaker 1: Jason English is here back in la We got Matt Schneider,

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Speaker 1: Jason Cleman, and Meredith Batton who they all run the

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Speaker 1: show and all the stuff that you're seeing on digital.

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Speaker 1: But gosh, couldn't be happier with today's episode. We got

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Speaker 1: more to come. Thanks for listening. The Season with Peter

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Speaker 1: Schrager is a production of the NFL and partnership with iHeartRadio.

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Speaker 1: For more podcasts from iHeartRadio, visit the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts,

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Speaker 1: or wherever you get your podcasts.