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Speaker 1: Hey, this is Anny and Smantha and welcome to stuff

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Speaker 1: I never told you production of My Heart Radio.

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Speaker 2: And welcome to well this kind of fun episode. I

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Speaker 2: want to say, kind of fun. We've been planning on

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Speaker 2: doing another gaming episode for a minute now and I'm like,

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Speaker 2: you know what, let's do this. So here we are.

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Speaker 2: I am going to put a date on this because

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Speaker 2: we do have so many of these episodes, and I'm

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Speaker 2: sure we're going to continue to talk about it because

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Speaker 2: it's something that we both have interest in as well

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Speaker 2: as it's a growing industry that we want to keep

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Speaker 2: a watch on, especially when it comes to involving marginalized people.

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Speaker 2: So today is as of the recording January twenty seventh,

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Speaker 2: twenty twenty six. It'll be released on January twenty eighth,

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Speaker 2: twenty twenty six. That turnaround, Yeah, look, she's the best

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Speaker 2: we left. So in this one, we decided to review

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Speaker 2: at least so three. Picked out three games, one that

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Speaker 2: I have played and recommended, one that Aie has played

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Speaker 2: and recommended, and one that is new to both of us,

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Speaker 2: so that we were going to kind of break down

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Speaker 2: what we chose and how we liked them and what

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Speaker 2: we think about these games and then just to have

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Speaker 2: a con of conversation about how these games made us

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Speaker 2: feel or didn't make us feel. I don't know. But

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Speaker 2: before we get into all of that, I wanted to

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Speaker 2: take a minute about the state of cozy games and

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Speaker 2: gaming today and what it looks like if anything's changed again.

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Speaker 2: I think we started really talking about this. Was that

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Speaker 2: pre COVID or post COVID or mid COVID pandemic closed down.

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Speaker 2: I don't know how you say that.

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Speaker 1: I think it was like early COVID. I think that's

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Speaker 1: when we started to do it. Yeah, because I you know,

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Speaker 1: I've always been a gamer, but I feel like that's

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Speaker 1: when you started.

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Speaker 2: I was picking up things because I'm like, I am bored.

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Speaker 2: I think it was a little past COVID for me

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Speaker 2: because Animal Crossing was not on my radar, even though

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it came out right where like shut down was happening.

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Speaker 2: I remember you were getting like fan requests, like all

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Speaker 2: of our listeners like any you have to play this,

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Speaker 2: you have to play this, and they're like Samantha, you exist,

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Speaker 2: and then I'm like I kind of like it. But

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Speaker 2: all that to say, I think this journey has been

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Speaker 2: coming over a round. So we've been at least we'll

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Speaker 2: say five years for as a smnteezy interest, meaning we're

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Speaker 2: talking about it because you've been talking about that gaming beforehand,

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Speaker 2: because we talked about the doxing and as as such,

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Speaker 2: but specifically to cozy gaming and gaming specifically aimed at

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Speaker 2: women more so than not. Again, cozy games have been

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Speaker 2: marketed towards women more than men, but that doesn't mean

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Speaker 2: much because everybody enjoys animal crossing, am I right?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, And you can see the episode we did on

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Speaker 1: tech Stuff with Jonathan, Yes, where we talked about cozy gaming,

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Speaker 1: but no, they're just nice and there's a lot a

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Speaker 1: variety within the genre. So yes, even though it has

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Speaker 1: been marketed traditionally towards women, I think that pretty much

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Speaker 1: everybody has a cozy game that they could go to. Well.

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Speaker 2: So since the growing popularity of cozy games, there have been,

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Speaker 2: you know it, some concerns, especially recently and what is

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Speaker 2: not one of the concerns, by the way, that's not

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Speaker 2: a concern, that's yays happening. Maybe things will change, and

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Speaker 2: different reports show an increase of women or non body

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Speaker 2: of folks being involved in the world of gaming, everything

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Speaker 2: the gaming worlds outside of the Cozy games are still

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Speaker 2: gatekeeping is still happening. It still exists, a lot of

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Speaker 2: dick pics, doxing, a lot of that has happened, but

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Speaker 2: the gozy games have helped change that a bit. So

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Speaker 2: in the GDC survey they report an increase of women

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Speaker 2: in Games dot Com, so they write the latest GDC

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Speaker 2: State of the Industry report has revealed that twenty five

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Speaker 2: six percent. However, as highlighted by the authors of the report,

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Speaker 2: that figure was seventy five percent in twenty twenty. Again,

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Speaker 2: all right, nice change, meaning that we've seen a nine

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Speaker 2: but it's still progressed. So we're gonna take our wins

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Speaker 2: So some numbers that I saw while researching include these

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Speaker 2: Women and non buying developers now make up thirty two

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Speaker 2: increase of diversity in gaming is positive as well. Quote

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Speaker 2: though it's a little more difficult to quantify as many

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Speaker 2: of these changes are too small to draw conclusions. According

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Speaker 2: twenty twenty four to fifty nine percent today. So of

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Speaker 2: course that's a lot of numbers saying that, yes, there's

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Speaker 2: uh So, in twenty twenty four, one YouTuber ducky Games

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Speaker 2: cozy gaming industry. Again, this goes back to the like

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Speaker 2: But she's not necessarily talking about all of that, but

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Speaker 2: And I think that's always something that we should look at,

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Speaker 2: But that's not what I want to point the finger

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Speaker 2: that's a complaint from many of the cozy game content creators.

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Speaker 2: So it's not just gamers that are talking about this,

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Speaker 2: They say that too. I've seen several complaints about that

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Speaker 2: again they have no sub instances. So back to that

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Speaker 2: indiegameculture dot com article, they say, what I'm saying here

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Speaker 2: her Cozygaming dot Com they write, the problem with cozy

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Speaker 2: that makes her cozy. That makes me want to throw ones.

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Speaker 1: That's why I'm very I'm excited to talk about our

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Speaker 1: uh our Selections service because I think it showcases something

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Speaker 2: It does by the way it does, but also like

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Speaker 2: there's a new genre like cozy horror games, cozy dark games.

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Speaker 2: We had the conversation because I said, I don't think

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Speaker 2: Zelda Breath of the Wild is cozy, and many people do.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, and this is also we talked about this

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Speaker 1: in that episode with Jonathan. But there's also cozy games

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Speaker 1: and comfort games. And I would say last of us

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Speaker 1: say it's a cozy game. That's a different thing.

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Speaker 2: That's a different thing. And that's kind of the back

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Speaker 1: better with charisma for thinking of the same.

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00:24:45,440 --> 00:24:49,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, I did too. We'll see what happens. But yeah,

433
00:24:49,359 --> 00:24:51,359
Speaker 2: so I'm I'm about the same. I think you're a

434
00:24:51,400 --> 00:24:53,240
Speaker 2: little farther ahead of me. Like I said, the frustrated

435
00:24:53,240 --> 00:24:55,200
Speaker 2: should have had me and I was like, no, that's

436
00:24:55,560 --> 00:24:58,719
Speaker 2: what's happening. No, but I do enjoy it thus far.

437
00:24:59,040 --> 00:25:01,399
Speaker 2: Now that I've got gained, I was like, okay, okay,

438
00:25:01,520 --> 00:25:03,920
Speaker 2: now gain knowledge. So I'm guessing I'm going to learn

439
00:25:04,000 --> 00:25:06,080
Speaker 2: some things about D and D maybe through this game.

440
00:25:07,880 --> 00:25:12,080
Speaker 1: Yeah. Honestly, I think that a lot of stuff as

441
00:25:12,119 --> 00:25:15,000
Speaker 1: complicated as D and D is, I think a lot

442
00:25:15,000 --> 00:25:18,639
Speaker 1: of it is pretty like oh yeah, if you have

443
00:25:18,680 --> 00:25:23,119
Speaker 1: a high dexterity, you can sneak around more. I don't know,

444
00:25:23,320 --> 00:25:25,200
Speaker 1: but yes, I think you will learn.

445
00:25:25,000 --> 00:25:28,880
Speaker 2: More well, and this game has already expanded. There is

446
00:25:30,040 --> 00:25:32,719
Speaker 2: downloadable content. I did buy the package, and I think

447
00:25:32,760 --> 00:25:35,760
Speaker 2: there's a secondary one coming through. So it's it's building,

448
00:25:35,800 --> 00:25:38,760
Speaker 2: like it has become successful enough that it is building

449
00:25:39,760 --> 00:25:41,760
Speaker 2: is entirety, and I think there's a lot more as

450
00:25:41,760 --> 00:25:44,320
Speaker 2: we know when D and D can go forever. So yes,

451
00:25:44,640 --> 00:25:48,400
Speaker 2: we'll see, I guess with that, mm hmmm, we'll see.

452
00:25:49,320 --> 00:25:51,440
Speaker 1: There's a twist with thee.

453
00:25:51,359 --> 00:25:54,879
Speaker 2: The way it sounds to me that there is. Yes,

454
00:25:55,040 --> 00:25:57,040
Speaker 2: the way they're setting this up, especially with like the

455
00:25:57,040 --> 00:25:59,359
Speaker 2: clues and the previews and like the details of like

456
00:26:00,160 --> 00:26:01,280
Speaker 2: seemingly simple.

457
00:26:02,200 --> 00:26:04,800
Speaker 1: But this could be another instance where we've just watched

458
00:26:04,840 --> 00:26:07,120
Speaker 1: too many Yeah, too many.

459
00:26:06,920 --> 00:26:10,800
Speaker 2: Horror figured out the murder mystery was not that complicated. Yeah,

460
00:26:10,960 --> 00:26:13,040
Speaker 2: moving on, So we'll see, we'll see, we'll come back

461
00:26:13,080 --> 00:26:15,520
Speaker 2: and report, But thus far, I do recommend. I think

462
00:26:15,520 --> 00:26:17,159
Speaker 2: I should have put this at the very beginning. None

463
00:26:17,200 --> 00:26:20,000
Speaker 2: of these are sponsors. Yeah, I want if you want

464
00:26:20,000 --> 00:26:22,920
Speaker 2: to talk to us about sponsors, just here. We enjoyed

465
00:26:22,920 --> 00:26:25,920
Speaker 2: these things, so come at us bro. And then the

466
00:26:25,960 --> 00:26:29,040
Speaker 2: second game was my recommendation and actually a Jonathan recommendation.

467
00:26:29,320 --> 00:26:33,400
Speaker 2: We did talk about this earlier, and that is Unpacking,

468
00:26:34,119 --> 00:26:36,119
Speaker 2: which is a big game. This has won all of

469
00:26:36,160 --> 00:26:38,359
Speaker 2: the awards. It is on top of every list that

470
00:26:38,400 --> 00:26:41,600
Speaker 2: could be created. It is women created, women created. It

471
00:26:41,680 --> 00:26:42,960
Speaker 2: is very fun, nostalgic.

472
00:26:43,520 --> 00:26:43,639
Speaker 1: Uh.

473
00:26:43,880 --> 00:26:49,080
Speaker 2: And this is from unpackinggame dot com. They write Unpacking

474
00:26:49,160 --> 00:26:51,840
Speaker 2: is a game about the familiar experience of pulling possessions

475
00:26:51,840 --> 00:26:54,280
Speaker 2: out of boxes and fitting them into a new home.

476
00:26:54,880 --> 00:26:58,800
Speaker 2: Part block fitting, puzzle, part home decoration. You're invited to

477
00:26:58,840 --> 00:27:02,520
Speaker 2: create a satisfying living space while learning clues about the

478
00:27:02,560 --> 00:27:06,159
Speaker 2: life you're unpacking. Over the course of eight house moves,

479
00:27:06,200 --> 00:27:08,919
Speaker 2: you're given a chance to experience a sense of intimacy

480
00:27:09,119 --> 00:27:12,000
Speaker 2: with a character you never see in a story you're

481
00:27:12,080 --> 00:27:15,040
Speaker 2: never told. And that took me a minute to figure

482
00:27:15,040 --> 00:27:17,040
Speaker 2: it out. I'm like, oh, this is her childhood home.

483
00:27:17,480 --> 00:27:20,000
Speaker 2: Oh this is our high school. Oh this is our

484
00:27:20,040 --> 00:27:23,119
Speaker 2: college times. Oh this is our first relationship. Like there

485
00:27:23,119 --> 00:27:27,600
Speaker 2: are so many things that you see that you slowly unpack,

486
00:27:27,680 --> 00:27:31,560
Speaker 2: and you slowly see I will say I did not finish.

487
00:27:31,760 --> 00:27:34,280
Speaker 2: I have not finished this game. I'm slowly working on it.

488
00:27:34,480 --> 00:27:39,880
Speaker 2: My partner's sister, like we sent this this game up,

489
00:27:40,160 --> 00:27:43,000
Speaker 2: specifically like this switch up and for him and his

490
00:27:43,000 --> 00:27:45,399
Speaker 2: family when I wasn't with them, and she played it

491
00:27:45,440 --> 00:27:47,360
Speaker 2: and loved it, and I was like, yeah, she went

492
00:27:47,400 --> 00:27:50,359
Speaker 2: through it very quickly apparently, and she finished it and

493
00:27:50,359 --> 00:27:51,800
Speaker 2: she was like, oh my god, this is so great.

494
00:27:51,840 --> 00:27:54,959
Speaker 2: So I'm like, okay, okay, I love it. But I

495
00:27:55,000 --> 00:27:57,280
Speaker 2: think it was very It is when I first started

496
00:27:57,280 --> 00:28:00,840
Speaker 2: playing it. It is very satisfying, and there's thing very like.

497
00:28:02,000 --> 00:28:05,120
Speaker 2: This is to me, the epitome of cozy. It's kind

498
00:28:05,160 --> 00:28:08,680
Speaker 2: of like how Animal Crossing became a beginning cozy as well.

499
00:28:08,880 --> 00:28:11,439
Speaker 2: It was part of the epitome of the packaging of

500
00:28:11,520 --> 00:28:14,879
Speaker 2: cozy gaming because it is puzzle solving but simple, and

501
00:28:14,920 --> 00:28:21,040
Speaker 2: the music is like appeasing and relaxing. That's my opinion though.

502
00:28:21,040 --> 00:28:23,879
Speaker 2: But Annie, this was your first time play through. What

503
00:28:23,960 --> 00:28:25,520
Speaker 2: was your thoughts? How far did you get through it?

504
00:28:25,560 --> 00:28:26,360
Speaker 2: Tell me everything?

505
00:28:26,960 --> 00:28:31,359
Speaker 1: Okay. First of all, I have to say we dodged

506
00:28:31,480 --> 00:28:36,760
Speaker 1: a bullet, Samantha, because I almost downloaded the game called

507
00:28:36,920 --> 00:28:41,400
Speaker 1: Unboxing Oh No, and it was very poorly reviewed, and

508
00:28:41,440 --> 00:28:44,440
Speaker 1: I was like, surely this is not the games that

509
00:28:44,800 --> 00:28:51,480
Speaker 1: was talking about. So I found I was like, this

510
00:28:51,520 --> 00:28:53,800
Speaker 1: one must be the one. Yeah, yeah, you played the

511
00:28:53,880 --> 00:28:57,000
Speaker 1: right one. But it was a close call. You know before,

512
00:28:57,120 --> 00:29:01,600
Speaker 1: I've made this mistake on this podcast. Uh No, I

513
00:29:01,640 --> 00:29:06,680
Speaker 1: really enjoyed it. It was It's very funny to me

514
00:29:06,800 --> 00:29:08,960
Speaker 1: because I think this brings us to the crux of

515
00:29:09,000 --> 00:29:13,840
Speaker 1: our different games. We like. I really enjoyed it, But

516
00:29:13,880 --> 00:29:15,479
Speaker 1: it made me feel like I needed to clean up,

517
00:29:15,520 --> 00:29:16,520
Speaker 1: clean up my apartment.

518
00:29:19,400 --> 00:29:21,760
Speaker 2: I was satisfied with that. I'm like, I'm done, I clean.

519
00:29:22,360 --> 00:29:24,560
Speaker 1: I felt like I needed I was like, well, I

520
00:29:24,560 --> 00:29:25,240
Speaker 1: should go, and.

521
00:29:26,320 --> 00:29:28,440
Speaker 2: It was judging you for not doing it to your

522
00:29:28,480 --> 00:29:29,000
Speaker 2: own place.

523
00:29:29,520 --> 00:29:32,160
Speaker 1: I liked that you were figuring out this life of

524
00:29:32,200 --> 00:29:35,800
Speaker 1: this character through what you were unpacking. I was a

525
00:29:35,840 --> 00:29:39,880
Speaker 1: bit specific about where I would put things. Again, I

526
00:29:39,920 --> 00:29:43,440
Speaker 1: think I wasn't relaxing as much as I should. I

527
00:29:43,480 --> 00:29:48,360
Speaker 1: was like, well, space wise, you.

528
00:29:48,360 --> 00:29:50,760
Speaker 2: Said no, we should go here. Why are you not

529
00:29:50,880 --> 00:29:52,160
Speaker 2: let me? I did do that a couple of times,

530
00:29:52,320 --> 00:29:54,120
Speaker 2: like why is it? Why can't I put it here?

531
00:29:54,240 --> 00:29:57,000
Speaker 1: I want to hear Yeah, like if you have a

532
00:29:57,120 --> 00:30:00,360
Speaker 1: desk and I can't fit all of the computers stuff

533
00:30:00,400 --> 00:30:07,400
Speaker 1: on the desk, you need a bigger desk. But yeah, No,

534
00:30:07,520 --> 00:30:09,160
Speaker 1: I really did enjoy it. I thought it was fun

535
00:30:09,160 --> 00:30:11,280
Speaker 1: and it was really easy, like it was a very

536
00:30:11,320 --> 00:30:17,080
Speaker 1: simple thing to pick up, and it was soothing and

537
00:30:17,120 --> 00:30:22,560
Speaker 1: it was satisfying when the blocks would close up, like you.

538
00:30:21,480 --> 00:30:24,920
Speaker 2: Did this, nicely done, nicely done. I feel like now.

539
00:30:24,960 --> 00:30:28,880
Speaker 2: And then they would throw things in there. They're like, yeah,

540
00:30:30,040 --> 00:30:30,920
Speaker 2: where'd that come from?

541
00:30:31,280 --> 00:30:33,400
Speaker 1: There were some things I couldn't even tell what they were.

542
00:30:33,640 --> 00:30:37,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know. Yeah, it's definitely like so we know,

543
00:30:37,360 --> 00:30:44,200
Speaker 2: like the like almost pixelated animations is kind of associated

544
00:30:44,200 --> 00:30:47,680
Speaker 2: with cozy gaming as well. It's the throwback level of

545
00:30:47,760 --> 00:30:51,400
Speaker 2: gaming that we know. But like it is it was like, uh,

546
00:30:51,720 --> 00:30:52,240
Speaker 2: what is that?

547
00:30:53,240 --> 00:30:54,040
Speaker 1: Is that a toy?

548
00:30:54,240 --> 00:30:56,720
Speaker 2: Or is that a what is it?

549
00:30:56,760 --> 00:31:01,520
Speaker 1: Is that a toilet bush? There are a bunch of

550
00:31:01,560 --> 00:31:04,160
Speaker 1: like small, little like spiral looking things.

551
00:31:04,240 --> 00:31:07,719
Speaker 2: I was like, where does this go? It's very tiny.

552
00:31:08,560 --> 00:31:10,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, I just put them all on the shelf and

553
00:31:10,400 --> 00:31:14,960
Speaker 1: it's like it seemed to belong together, so that's where

554
00:31:15,040 --> 00:31:15,360
Speaker 1: they go.

555
00:31:15,800 --> 00:31:18,120
Speaker 2: I did really like when you figured out what something was,

556
00:31:18,120 --> 00:31:20,440
Speaker 2: like a stuffed animal, but it went to different places

557
00:31:20,480 --> 00:31:21,160
Speaker 2: as you grew up.

558
00:31:21,200 --> 00:31:24,480
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, yeah, it does have a lot

559
00:31:24,520 --> 00:31:27,680
Speaker 1: of moments like that where you feel kind of almost

560
00:31:28,000 --> 00:31:32,120
Speaker 1: somehow nostalgic for yourself. I have the animal that's gone

561
00:31:32,240 --> 00:31:33,320
Speaker 1: here or whatever it.

562
00:31:33,200 --> 00:31:35,000
Speaker 2: Is, like it saved with me, but it's no longer

563
00:31:35,040 --> 00:31:41,480
Speaker 2: in this prime spot. Oh yeah, yeah, I'm fine, Everything's fine, everything. Yeah, overall,

564
00:31:42,000 --> 00:31:43,920
Speaker 2: how far did you get? How long did you get

565
00:31:43,960 --> 00:31:44,400
Speaker 2: this one?

566
00:31:45,120 --> 00:31:47,080
Speaker 1: Four rooms? Okay, I've done.

567
00:31:47,040 --> 00:31:51,600
Speaker 2: Four so as opposed to like open world like, this

568
00:31:51,640 --> 00:31:54,120
Speaker 2: does have like a fine finality to it. So I'm

569
00:31:54,120 --> 00:31:55,520
Speaker 2: sure for you that's but nice.

570
00:31:56,160 --> 00:32:00,800
Speaker 1: Yes for listeners who don't know, open world games stress out.

571
00:32:02,720 --> 00:32:05,040
Speaker 1: The cozy games can stress me out, but open world

572
00:32:05,120 --> 00:32:08,480
Speaker 1: games are like homework to me, and I'm freaking.

573
00:32:08,080 --> 00:32:09,800
Speaker 2: Out finish at all?

574
00:32:10,040 --> 00:32:12,560
Speaker 1: Oh my god, I never I got it. Tomorrow's the

575
00:32:12,600 --> 00:32:15,680
Speaker 1: school day and I haven't finished all of these things.

576
00:32:16,240 --> 00:32:20,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, but we know this one has I'm surprised, and

577
00:32:20,560 --> 00:32:22,400
Speaker 2: I could be wrong because I haven't looked it up

578
00:32:22,440 --> 00:32:27,640
Speaker 2: because we know things like Animal Crossing actually just supposedly

579
00:32:27,680 --> 00:32:31,840
Speaker 2: got free content for a new version. I couldn't find it.

580
00:32:31,880 --> 00:32:34,800
Speaker 2: I only saw that for Nintendo's switch too, which is

581
00:32:34,840 --> 00:32:36,840
Speaker 2: gonna make me very sad because I'm not buying a

582
00:32:36,880 --> 00:32:38,960
Speaker 2: new switch. I ain't got money like that. No, we're

583
00:32:38,960 --> 00:32:44,760
Speaker 2: not buying new things anymore people. But I wonder if Unpacking,

584
00:32:45,160 --> 00:32:48,200
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna lie I didn't research this bart has

585
00:32:50,600 --> 00:32:55,880
Speaker 2: new updates to it because it was such a successful game. Yeah,

586
00:32:56,440 --> 00:32:58,320
Speaker 2: I feel that's when I imagine they're not going to

587
00:32:58,360 --> 00:33:01,440
Speaker 2: grow it.

588
00:33:00,120 --> 00:33:03,840
Speaker 1: Again for it nothing on here is a sponsor.

589
00:33:04,440 --> 00:33:05,080
Speaker 2: Yeah.

590
00:33:05,160 --> 00:33:09,600
Speaker 1: I played Unpacking on my Steam deck, and I feel

591
00:33:09,600 --> 00:33:12,800
Speaker 1: like when when I was downloading it, there was another

592
00:33:12,920 --> 00:33:17,280
Speaker 1: version or something else as long. I just don't get

593
00:33:17,320 --> 00:33:21,280
Speaker 1: the basic the basic one.

594
00:33:21,560 --> 00:33:24,800
Speaker 2: Okay. The newest thing I see is they have merch.

595
00:33:25,200 --> 00:33:28,160
Speaker 2: They have merch, which we didn't talk about that earlier,

596
00:33:28,200 --> 00:33:30,320
Speaker 2: but yeah, that's a big conversation too, like as a

597
00:33:30,320 --> 00:33:33,440
Speaker 2: money maker as well, that they use merch, knowing that

598
00:33:33,920 --> 00:33:36,360
Speaker 2: if it's cute enough and it can be merchandised, you

599
00:33:36,440 --> 00:33:41,240
Speaker 2: might have a great concept. Especially you have McDonald's deals

600
00:33:41,240 --> 00:33:44,920
Speaker 2: because like Animal Crossing got huge in March World and

601
00:33:45,440 --> 00:33:51,080
Speaker 2: crossovers and collaboration. So uh. But I don't see anything

602
00:33:52,640 --> 00:33:58,040
Speaker 2: new for them outside of the being on phone games.

603
00:34:00,200 --> 00:34:02,800
Speaker 1: Just been patches sometimes Steamjeck does that.

604
00:34:03,200 --> 00:34:06,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, interesting, interesting, interesting. Well I'm glad you enjoyed it.

605
00:34:07,320 --> 00:34:09,040
Speaker 2: You have to let me know we'll come back when

606
00:34:09,040 --> 00:34:10,640
Speaker 2: we both finish it. I feel like I got to

607
00:34:10,680 --> 00:34:12,719
Speaker 2: finish it too, so we will come back. I think

608
00:34:12,719 --> 00:34:14,399
Speaker 2: I'm in a room like six or seven. I'm kind

609
00:34:14,400 --> 00:34:17,600
Speaker 2: of sad about it ending, so I kind of paused. Yeah,

610
00:34:18,120 --> 00:34:20,080
Speaker 2: I did that with like TV series too, like it's

611
00:34:20,120 --> 00:34:21,960
Speaker 2: gonna be ending. I can't I can't watch the end.

612
00:34:22,120 --> 00:34:25,879
Speaker 2: That means it's so over. So that's just my own thing.

613
00:34:37,640 --> 00:34:40,440
Speaker 2: So coming to our final game, it is Anie's choice.

614
00:34:40,480 --> 00:34:43,200
Speaker 2: You want to talk about that, Anie, Yes.

615
00:34:43,719 --> 00:34:45,960
Speaker 1: This is a game that I absolutely love. I have

616
00:34:46,120 --> 00:34:49,040
Speaker 1: talked about it before on this show, back when I

617
00:34:49,080 --> 00:34:53,000
Speaker 1: had a brief lived idea that I would do like

618
00:34:53,200 --> 00:34:55,640
Speaker 1: game reviews during the pandemic. It was the first one

619
00:34:55,680 --> 00:35:02,760
Speaker 1: I reviewed. It is oxen Free. I love this game.

620
00:35:03,120 --> 00:35:05,839
Speaker 1: It was a recommendation from my brother, my little brother,

621
00:35:07,200 --> 00:35:09,520
Speaker 1: and I'm so glad that I took him up on

622
00:35:09,560 --> 00:35:10,840
Speaker 1: it because a lot of times people are like, you

623
00:35:10,840 --> 00:35:12,480
Speaker 1: should play this, and I'm like, I will, and then

624
00:35:12,520 --> 00:35:15,960
Speaker 1: I downloaded it and I never do, but I'm very

625
00:35:15,960 --> 00:35:20,440
Speaker 1: glad I did. So. This is from Night School Studio

626
00:35:20,480 --> 00:35:24,320
Speaker 1: dot com about it. Oxen Free is a supernatural thriller

627
00:35:24,400 --> 00:35:27,760
Speaker 1: about a group of friends who unwittingly open a ghostly rift.

628
00:35:28,120 --> 00:35:31,600
Speaker 1: Play as Alex, a bright, rebellious teenager who brings her

629
00:35:31,640 --> 00:35:35,280
Speaker 1: new stepbrother Jonas, to an overnight party on an old

630
00:35:35,400 --> 00:35:39,319
Speaker 1: military island. The night takes a terrifying turn when you

631
00:35:39,440 --> 00:35:43,440
Speaker 1: unwittingly open a ghostly gatespond from the island's cryptic past.

632
00:35:44,120 --> 00:35:47,000
Speaker 1: How you deal with these events, your peers, and the

633
00:35:47,040 --> 00:35:51,400
Speaker 1: ominous creatures you've unleashed is up to you. You determine

634
00:35:51,440 --> 00:35:55,880
Speaker 1: every aspect of Alex's story while exploring Edward's Island, uncovering

635
00:35:55,920 --> 00:35:59,040
Speaker 1: the bass dark secret, and changing the course of your

636
00:35:59,080 --> 00:36:07,520
Speaker 1: friends lives. So, first of all, this is what I'm

637
00:36:07,560 --> 00:36:09,960
Speaker 1: talking about when I think it's very funny, the differences

638
00:36:10,000 --> 00:36:12,839
Speaker 1: in our Because I would call this a cozy game.

639
00:36:12,880 --> 00:36:14,360
Speaker 1: I think a lot of people would not.

640
00:36:14,719 --> 00:36:16,319
Speaker 2: Oh, I would definitely call it a cozy game.

641
00:36:16,640 --> 00:36:19,440
Speaker 1: I think it is. I think this is the closest

642
00:36:19,520 --> 00:36:22,400
Speaker 1: of a game that I absolutely adore. That is a

643
00:36:22,400 --> 00:36:25,840
Speaker 1: cozy game, But I think some people might not think so.

644
00:36:26,400 --> 00:36:33,440
Speaker 1: But it is a very like atmospheric, kind of eighties

645
00:36:34,520 --> 00:36:39,640
Speaker 1: the Goonies, Stranger Things type vibe. But it's mostly just

646
00:36:41,719 --> 00:36:47,080
Speaker 1: there are these very brightly colored text bubbles that you

647
00:36:47,120 --> 00:36:52,320
Speaker 1: can choose for your character Alex to say to her friends,

648
00:36:53,640 --> 00:36:56,919
Speaker 1: and through that you get points with certain characters. It's

649
00:36:57,120 --> 00:37:00,640
Speaker 1: very kind of like way Haven almost where.

650
00:37:00,440 --> 00:37:03,000
Speaker 2: You're you're change your adventure type of game.

651
00:37:03,160 --> 00:37:07,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, and you mostly outside of that, you just

652
00:37:08,040 --> 00:37:11,440
Speaker 1: kind of walk around and explore, and it does. It's

653
00:37:11,640 --> 00:37:16,240
Speaker 1: very It does have its creepy moments. It's got time travel,

654
00:37:16,239 --> 00:37:20,080
Speaker 1: which I love, and when you based on what happens

655
00:37:20,480 --> 00:37:23,200
Speaker 1: when you get to the end, the story can change

656
00:37:23,239 --> 00:37:25,200
Speaker 1: the second time you play it, and there is a

657
00:37:25,239 --> 00:37:28,440
Speaker 1: sequel and the story can change in that based on

658
00:37:28,480 --> 00:37:31,319
Speaker 1: what you did in the first one. So I love it.

659
00:37:31,400 --> 00:37:34,960
Speaker 1: I have played it. I was looking at it when

660
00:37:35,000 --> 00:37:36,640
Speaker 1: I suggested it to you because I was like, Okay,

661
00:37:36,680 --> 00:37:39,560
Speaker 1: this one is one I can just talk about. I

662
00:37:39,560 --> 00:37:42,000
Speaker 1: don't need to replay it, even though I desperately want

663
00:37:42,040 --> 00:37:45,799
Speaker 1: to now, and I've played it for fifteen hours. It's

664
00:37:45,880 --> 00:37:47,080
Speaker 1: not that long of a game.

665
00:37:47,800 --> 00:37:53,400
Speaker 2: Noh. So I was when I first started this game, Annie,

666
00:37:53,640 --> 00:37:56,520
Speaker 2: So it was like, hey, heads up. The dialogue boxes

667
00:37:56,520 --> 00:37:58,480
Speaker 2: go quickly, and you're right like I thought at first.

668
00:37:58,520 --> 00:38:00,400
Speaker 2: I was like, I'm pretty fast reader, Like I'm pretty

669
00:38:00,440 --> 00:38:02,799
Speaker 2: quick to make decisions that I'm but sometimes it would

670
00:38:02,800 --> 00:38:04,480
Speaker 2: just disappear, like you look away for a second, it

671
00:38:04,520 --> 00:38:06,360
Speaker 2: is gone. I was like, oh, something was done. I

672
00:38:06,360 --> 00:38:11,040
Speaker 2: don't know what just happened. But I loved this game, Nnie,

673
00:38:11,120 --> 00:38:13,560
Speaker 2: like you you got who knows? Because I was like,

674
00:38:13,640 --> 00:38:17,200
Speaker 2: what is this? I actually jumped a few times in

675
00:38:17,239 --> 00:38:19,240
Speaker 2: the game, and I was playing it on the switch

676
00:38:19,320 --> 00:38:21,279
Speaker 2: when I first played, so instead of because you can

677
00:38:21,440 --> 00:38:22,879
Speaker 2: connect this to your TV, and I have a very

678
00:38:22,880 --> 00:38:26,920
Speaker 2: giant TV all with surround zund so you could get

679
00:38:26,960 --> 00:38:29,279
Speaker 2: all the effects if you want it, which I did.

680
00:38:29,840 --> 00:38:31,439
Speaker 2: As I'm going through my second run through, I haven't

681
00:38:31,440 --> 00:38:33,200
Speaker 2: finished it, but I'm going through my second run through.

682
00:38:33,200 --> 00:38:36,279
Speaker 2: That's which I liked it. I've got very into this

683
00:38:36,320 --> 00:38:38,760
Speaker 2: game of like what is happening? What is this game?

684
00:38:39,239 --> 00:38:41,759
Speaker 2: They're in this because you did tell me, hey, you

685
00:38:41,920 --> 00:38:45,960
Speaker 2: also your choices will affect everything, and I'm like, okay, cool, cool,

686
00:38:45,960 --> 00:38:50,080
Speaker 2: cool cool cool. So in that first run I was like,

687
00:38:50,200 --> 00:38:53,800
Speaker 2: all right, I figured out I am still scared to

688
00:38:53,840 --> 00:38:57,120
Speaker 2: be judged even in games, like I can't make mean

689
00:38:57,239 --> 00:39:00,720
Speaker 2: comments or mean decisions even in games.

690
00:39:02,600 --> 00:39:05,840
Speaker 1: I'm the same Samantha. It's very hard for me to

691
00:39:05,880 --> 00:39:06,239
Speaker 1: do it.

692
00:39:07,680 --> 00:39:10,600
Speaker 2: I was like, I don't like this, to the point

693
00:39:10,600 --> 00:39:11,880
Speaker 2: that when I was trying to do the second one,

694
00:39:11,880 --> 00:39:13,200
Speaker 2: I was like, I'm want to do the opposite. I

695
00:39:13,239 --> 00:39:15,000
Speaker 2: still couldn't do the opposite. I didn't realize I was

696
00:39:15,040 --> 00:39:16,120
Speaker 2: picking some of the same choices.

697
00:39:17,040 --> 00:39:20,200
Speaker 1: Yes, no, I am absolutely the same. But I don't

698
00:39:20,200 --> 00:39:22,160
Speaker 1: know if this ever happened to you. But if you don't,

699
00:39:24,080 --> 00:39:25,920
Speaker 1: I should have said this when I warned you. But

700
00:39:26,000 --> 00:39:28,759
Speaker 1: if you don't choose a text bubble, then it just

701
00:39:28,800 --> 00:39:32,920
Speaker 1: gives you the negative, the most negative response. So it's

702
00:39:32,960 --> 00:39:36,240
Speaker 1: not like, I guess it is bad, but you don't

703
00:39:36,480 --> 00:39:40,439
Speaker 1: have to choose a text bubble. Not choosing a text

704
00:39:40,480 --> 00:39:42,400
Speaker 1: bubble actually is a choice.

705
00:39:42,600 --> 00:39:43,200
Speaker 2: Is a choice.

706
00:39:43,320 --> 00:39:45,040
Speaker 1: Okay, that's unfair.

707
00:39:45,920 --> 00:39:49,239
Speaker 2: Well, I've also discovered that you can't go like in

708
00:39:49,280 --> 00:39:52,320
Speaker 2: the second run through, because again you open a gate

709
00:39:52,440 --> 00:39:53,960
Speaker 2: and you don't realize. I try to see if I

710
00:39:54,000 --> 00:39:56,080
Speaker 2: can refuse to do it. I just wanted to see

711
00:39:56,080 --> 00:39:59,479
Speaker 2: if you cannot. There's several they kill you out because

712
00:39:59,480 --> 00:40:00,880
Speaker 2: I try to go to the wrong way. They're like, you

713
00:40:00,920 --> 00:40:03,000
Speaker 2: can't go that way. We have to do this thing first.

714
00:40:03,000 --> 00:40:06,440
Speaker 2: I'm like, oh, okay. My partner came in while I

715
00:40:06,520 --> 00:40:09,759
Speaker 2: was part playing it. He's like, oh, there's dialogue, there's

716
00:40:09,800 --> 00:40:12,759
Speaker 2: actual texts, because like you you see that and like

717
00:40:12,840 --> 00:40:15,239
Speaker 2: gave the Last of Us and all that, but not

718
00:40:15,360 --> 00:40:18,320
Speaker 2: in many cozy games, like you don't see that level

719
00:40:18,400 --> 00:40:21,960
Speaker 2: of acting voice acting. So he was actually kind of shocked.

720
00:40:22,160 --> 00:40:27,279
Speaker 2: I will say, this is a Netflix studio, which threw

721
00:40:27,320 --> 00:40:28,000
Speaker 2: me off.

722
00:40:28,360 --> 00:40:31,240
Speaker 1: It was when it was okay, I didn't think.

723
00:40:31,040 --> 00:40:32,920
Speaker 2: So, I didn't think I doubt it. It was it

724
00:40:32,920 --> 00:40:33,279
Speaker 2: was too.

725
00:40:33,280 --> 00:40:38,520
Speaker 1: Quick, like it was an indie game first, but then

726
00:40:38,560 --> 00:40:42,440
Speaker 1: it was very successful and then Netflix now yeah, now

727
00:40:42,440 --> 00:40:44,080
Speaker 1: you can see it on Netflix, and it always blows

728
00:40:44,080 --> 00:40:44,359
Speaker 1: my mind.

729
00:40:44,360 --> 00:40:46,560
Speaker 2: I'm like, yeah, shrew me off. I was like, she

730
00:40:46,600 --> 00:40:50,040
Speaker 2: puts a Netflix game. That's interesting. But I assumed in

731
00:40:50,080 --> 00:40:51,600
Speaker 2: my head. I was like, I bet they bought it

732
00:40:51,640 --> 00:40:55,320
Speaker 2: out because that's what Netflix does. Uh not that whatever,

733
00:40:55,480 --> 00:40:57,839
Speaker 2: whatever it is, what it is. But as you heard

734
00:40:57,840 --> 00:41:01,360
Speaker 2: in the beginning of our episodes, there are some eyebrow

735
00:41:01,560 --> 00:41:05,040
Speaker 2: raising when it comes to corporation. Yeah, anyways with that,

736
00:41:05,160 --> 00:41:08,600
Speaker 2: but this game was thoroughly enjoyable, very kind of sad

737
00:41:08,640 --> 00:41:11,680
Speaker 2: that I was like, oh God, this subtext is really

738
00:41:11,760 --> 00:41:17,640
Speaker 2: like kind of heartbreaking. I don't I'm I'm also very

739
00:41:17,800 --> 00:41:19,880
Speaker 2: as you can tell when we were talking about simplistic

740
00:41:19,960 --> 00:41:22,840
Speaker 2: things and plots and then we go bigger and lay no,

741
00:41:23,000 --> 00:41:26,080
Speaker 2: there is conspiracy theories. This isn't even worse in my mind,

742
00:41:26,239 --> 00:41:28,560
Speaker 2: this is worse. Like when I left, it seemed like

743
00:41:28,560 --> 00:41:30,400
Speaker 2: a happy ending and I was like, I don't know,

744
00:41:31,040 --> 00:41:34,919
Speaker 2: I don't think it was. There's so many questions to this,

745
00:41:37,320 --> 00:41:39,560
Speaker 2: but it was very enjoyable. The mystery was interesting. It

746
00:41:39,600 --> 00:41:42,399
Speaker 2: was easy play, like I was able to catch onto

747
00:41:42,440 --> 00:41:44,160
Speaker 2: this way faster than Tavern talk.

748
00:41:46,160 --> 00:41:48,719
Speaker 1: I'm so glad because I haven't played this in like

749
00:41:48,840 --> 00:41:53,279
Speaker 1: I think six years. Yeah, I love it. But when

750
00:41:53,320 --> 00:41:55,920
Speaker 1: we were discussing this, I kept running into I do

751
00:41:56,040 --> 00:41:59,319
Speaker 1: not want to fake a game. Samantha will late. I

752
00:41:59,400 --> 00:42:04,160
Speaker 1: want to she might enjoy it. No, it's fine, but

753
00:42:04,239 --> 00:42:10,239
Speaker 1: I was like, I remember being pretty easy to pick up.

754
00:42:10,360 --> 00:42:10,560
Speaker 3: Yeah.

755
00:42:10,800 --> 00:42:16,200
Speaker 2: Easy. It's an easy, simple gameplay, but very intriguing storyline.

756
00:42:16,960 --> 00:42:19,319
Speaker 2: You get to make choices, you have to figure things out.

757
00:42:19,560 --> 00:42:22,680
Speaker 2: It was easy on my easy year with my switch

758
00:42:23,360 --> 00:42:25,960
Speaker 2: because I was able to do touch screen first, because

759
00:42:25,960 --> 00:42:28,200
Speaker 2: some of them remote stuff, even though they are very

760
00:42:28,200 --> 00:42:31,239
Speaker 2: good and giving you specific instructions to do this use

761
00:42:31,320 --> 00:42:33,319
Speaker 2: this if you're if it looks like you're stalling, like

762
00:42:33,360 --> 00:42:36,440
Speaker 2: if you're confused, it knowes that. So when I played

763
00:42:36,440 --> 00:42:38,560
Speaker 2: it on the TV, which I am now in my

764
00:42:38,600 --> 00:42:43,040
Speaker 2: second run through, which is really fascinating to do now

765
00:42:43,520 --> 00:42:45,719
Speaker 2: because now I know what's going on a little bit,

766
00:42:46,239 --> 00:42:48,839
Speaker 2: so but doing it on the bigger screen, I very

767
00:42:48,880 --> 00:42:52,640
Speaker 2: much enjoy this, just like Unpacking. Actually, the composers for

768
00:42:52,760 --> 00:42:55,680
Speaker 2: this are award winning composers, the same as it was

769
00:42:55,800 --> 00:42:59,880
Speaker 2: for Unpacking. They were award winning BAFTA winning composers, so

770
00:43:00,120 --> 00:43:03,120
Speaker 2: they made sure they did this purposely. They put quality

771
00:43:04,440 --> 00:43:08,160
Speaker 2: content and everything in music and dialogue and acting, so

772
00:43:08,560 --> 00:43:12,400
Speaker 2: in artwork like they were purposeful both Oxen Free and Unpacking,

773
00:43:12,480 --> 00:43:16,319
Speaker 2: So we love when that happens. Uh tavern talk too.

774
00:43:16,480 --> 00:43:19,319
Speaker 2: I don't see much about their music, but I know

775
00:43:19,360 --> 00:43:22,680
Speaker 2: they really worked on their artwork, but these two specifically

776
00:43:23,400 --> 00:43:27,560
Speaker 2: award winning level, so I did find that interesting. I

777
00:43:27,680 --> 00:43:32,360
Speaker 2: loved the cartoonishness, but not the cartoonishness, the ability to

778
00:43:32,640 --> 00:43:34,520
Speaker 2: like it was very clearly marked that what you can

779
00:43:34,600 --> 00:43:37,320
Speaker 2: interact with even though you might miss it. I figured

780
00:43:37,360 --> 00:43:38,719
Speaker 2: that out after I was like, oh I missed that

781
00:43:38,880 --> 00:43:41,160
Speaker 2: the first time round or stuff like that, things that

782
00:43:41,200 --> 00:43:44,080
Speaker 2: you absolutely have to do, you have to do the

783
00:43:44,080 --> 00:43:46,360
Speaker 2: way they market for you. You realize what you're supposed

784
00:43:46,360 --> 00:43:49,080
Speaker 2: to do because there's a radio involved and you got

785
00:43:49,120 --> 00:43:51,520
Speaker 2: to play on that. So all of those things were

786
00:43:51,640 --> 00:43:55,719
Speaker 2: very interesting. I didn't have to jump do these type

787
00:43:55,719 --> 00:43:58,000
Speaker 2: of things, like it was really easier to figure out

788
00:43:58,480 --> 00:44:00,440
Speaker 2: both on the controls and on the switch. So being

789
00:44:00,480 --> 00:44:03,839
Speaker 2: able to do all of that really made it easy. Again,

790
00:44:03,880 --> 00:44:08,080
Speaker 2: the touchdown level helped me, like the touchscreen level helped

791
00:44:08,080 --> 00:44:11,680
Speaker 2: me navigate it first and then realizing what I needed

792
00:44:11,760 --> 00:44:14,440
Speaker 2: to do with the controls after the fact. I'm like, okay, this,

793
00:44:14,920 --> 00:44:17,279
Speaker 2: I get it. I get where I'm at. I'm not

794
00:44:17,320 --> 00:44:20,840
Speaker 2: gonna use The storytelling was really good. The choice is

795
00:44:21,040 --> 00:44:26,000
Speaker 2: very interesting. Again. The animation was it looks like a

796
00:44:26,040 --> 00:44:31,440
Speaker 2: flipping TV show, Like literally the static level like this

797
00:44:31,480 --> 00:44:33,920
Speaker 2: is like this is a game. This is what you

798
00:44:34,000 --> 00:44:36,520
Speaker 2: do for a like a movie level.

799
00:44:37,600 --> 00:44:40,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, well that's cool. The contrast because the characters are

800
00:44:40,480 --> 00:44:45,080
Speaker 1: kind of animation y yeah uh, kind of cartoony, but

801
00:44:45,120 --> 00:44:49,280
Speaker 1: then the setting is not. The setting is very much

802
00:44:49,520 --> 00:44:55,440
Speaker 1: like you're creepy, the something is off here. So I

803
00:44:55,520 --> 00:44:58,840
Speaker 1: love that contrast of it. I do. I love the

804
00:44:58,920 --> 00:45:01,520
Speaker 1: music of it. Something else that I was trying to

805
00:45:01,600 --> 00:45:04,000
Speaker 1: take into account when I was picking a game for you,

806
00:45:04,800 --> 00:45:08,120
Speaker 1: and so I knew for you you had said previously

807
00:45:08,160 --> 00:45:11,320
Speaker 1: that you didn't like like combat necessarily and you didn't

808
00:45:11,400 --> 00:45:14,800
Speaker 1: like games where you die necessarily, and so I was like,

809
00:45:14,840 --> 00:45:16,799
Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure an oxyd for you, like you never die,

810
00:45:17,280 --> 00:45:17,959
Speaker 1: you don't have to release.

811
00:45:18,120 --> 00:45:22,839
Speaker 3: I can't fall off a cliff. I actually walked off

812
00:45:22,880 --> 00:45:29,280
Speaker 3: of this. I didn't glad, And it is nice.

813
00:45:29,320 --> 00:45:31,040
Speaker 1: It's nice to play a game like that where you

814
00:45:31,040 --> 00:45:32,839
Speaker 1: don't have to worry about that, where it's just you're

815
00:45:32,840 --> 00:45:35,680
Speaker 1: trying to solve this mystery and you're seeing these like

816
00:45:36,000 --> 00:45:39,360
Speaker 1: character relationships and deciding like do I want to be

817
00:45:39,480 --> 00:45:41,600
Speaker 1: with this guy? And maybe I don't do I hate

818
00:45:41,640 --> 00:45:44,440
Speaker 1: my step Yeah, I like.

819
00:45:44,960 --> 00:45:47,400
Speaker 2: Who you just met, which were like how do you

820
00:45:47,440 --> 00:45:49,759
Speaker 2: do this? But interesting we do? I was like. The

821
00:45:49,800 --> 00:45:52,520
Speaker 2: only hiccup I really had. There's a portion in here

822
00:45:52,520 --> 00:45:54,640
Speaker 2: where they ask you some questions and at one point

823
00:45:54,840 --> 00:45:58,200
Speaker 2: the screen flips and I was so confused. I kept

824
00:45:58,280 --> 00:46:01,160
Speaker 2: pressing the wrong button even though though I knew the answer,

825
00:46:01,400 --> 00:46:06,120
Speaker 2: and that ticked me off because I hate being wrong

826
00:46:06,160 --> 00:46:09,040
Speaker 2: I'm like, I know that answer. It just flipped the

827
00:46:09,080 --> 00:46:11,359
Speaker 2: screen and I can't. I can't forgeret which button to use.

828
00:46:11,400 --> 00:46:15,000
Speaker 2: Now I'll see that did that? Did that? Was the

829
00:46:15,120 --> 00:46:18,080
Speaker 2: time of was like oh but I mean again, now,

830
00:46:18,080 --> 00:46:19,839
Speaker 2: if you heard me talk about flipping experience, you're like, what

831
00:46:20,280 --> 00:46:24,000
Speaker 2: that's the level of fascination in these optics, Like they

832
00:46:24,239 --> 00:46:28,480
Speaker 2: use every way to kind of discombobulate you without doing

833
00:46:28,480 --> 00:46:30,680
Speaker 2: too much, but it does it in such a way

834
00:46:30,760 --> 00:46:34,440
Speaker 2: that it does feel like is this alien's is this ghosts?

835
00:46:34,760 --> 00:46:37,879
Speaker 2: Is this a possession? Is this a dream? Like? There's

836
00:46:37,920 --> 00:46:41,160
Speaker 2: so many points to this in this that they I

837
00:46:41,160 --> 00:46:45,279
Speaker 2: feel like they put a lot of genre, yeah into

838
00:46:45,320 --> 00:46:48,600
Speaker 2: the into a game. I thoroughly enjoyed it. Again. I'm

839
00:46:48,640 --> 00:46:50,879
Speaker 2: now on my second replay because I liked it so much.

840
00:46:50,920 --> 00:46:53,839
Speaker 2: I will be purchasing the second one, uh soon after

841
00:46:54,200 --> 00:46:55,680
Speaker 2: because I want to see what the second run through

842
00:46:55,760 --> 00:47:00,399
Speaker 2: looks like. And I again I will say, I think

843
00:47:00,440 --> 00:47:02,200
Speaker 2: we need to give content warning if you do play

844
00:47:02,200 --> 00:47:05,760
Speaker 2: this game. It does involve death and loss of a sibling,

845
00:47:06,719 --> 00:47:09,040
Speaker 2: which comes like oh okay, which you find out pretty

846
00:47:09,080 --> 00:47:14,200
Speaker 2: early on, Yeah, what has happened? But like I was like, oh,

847
00:47:14,280 --> 00:47:16,600
Speaker 2: that's kind of dark. Oh, this is real dark. Like

848
00:47:16,719 --> 00:47:19,439
Speaker 2: it kind of was one of those moments of like, yeah,

849
00:47:19,480 --> 00:47:25,319
Speaker 2: and he just likes to be sad. I don't like

850
00:47:25,360 --> 00:47:28,359
Speaker 2: to be numb, and he likes to be sad or

851
00:47:28,400 --> 00:47:30,080
Speaker 2: scared like those two things.

852
00:47:30,160 --> 00:47:33,359
Speaker 1: Yes, and they do have. That's another thing in it

853
00:47:33,400 --> 00:47:36,120
Speaker 1: is that it's like oh, and then you will hear

854
00:47:36,160 --> 00:47:37,000
Speaker 1: like a scream.

855
00:47:37,200 --> 00:47:37,439
Speaker 2: Yeah.

856
00:47:37,719 --> 00:47:40,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, and it's like from out of nowhere.

857
00:47:41,640 --> 00:47:43,359
Speaker 2: I jumped a couple of times. I was like, what

858
00:47:44,960 --> 00:47:46,080
Speaker 2: where did that come from?

859
00:47:46,360 --> 00:47:49,720
Speaker 1: Definitely my type of game, It wasn't your.

860
00:47:49,640 --> 00:47:52,879
Speaker 2: Type of game. But I also surprisingly love this game

861
00:47:53,320 --> 00:47:55,719
Speaker 2: to me, And if we have another run through, I'm

862
00:47:55,719 --> 00:47:59,600
Speaker 2: gonna make you play the Snuffkin games. It's that same

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Speaker 2: level of like simplicity and like narration and you can't die,

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00:48:05,880 --> 00:48:07,880
Speaker 2: you can't really you can lose, and you have a

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Speaker 2: few little things, but like it's just the storyline that

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00:48:11,520 --> 00:48:13,520
Speaker 2: just goes through, like you just have to walk it

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Speaker 2: through to find the ending. But like, but it's a

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Speaker 2: lot more childish and animation is obviously a lot but

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Speaker 2: more bubbly. In Snuffkins. They have like spots that you

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Speaker 2: can go to that they'll let you do that and

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00:48:26,960 --> 00:48:28,719
Speaker 2: just see views like you can put it on a

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00:48:28,760 --> 00:48:32,759
Speaker 2: screen where you see stars. Because he's laying down to

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Speaker 2: look up at the gorgeous stars.

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Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, yeah.

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Speaker 2: Like I think I see you a picture of me

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Speaker 2: playing huge TV. Yeah. I was like, this is amazing.

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Speaker 2: It's a lot shorter game than any other games I

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00:48:47,800 --> 00:48:52,120
Speaker 2: think you play in any form, but instead of venturing

879
00:48:52,320 --> 00:48:54,640
Speaker 2: like it shows you where you need to go, it

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00:48:54,719 --> 00:48:56,840
Speaker 2: kind of tells. It tells you a story. It's not

881
00:48:56,880 --> 00:48:58,680
Speaker 2: so difficult that I have to be in combat all

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00:48:58,719 --> 00:49:01,239
Speaker 2: the time. They're surprise is here and there. There's a

883
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Speaker 2: few things that wake you up to make sure that

884
00:49:03,120 --> 00:49:05,880
Speaker 2: you remind you you were playing a video game. I

885
00:49:05,960 --> 00:49:08,600
Speaker 2: enjoyed that very much, and this one really did have

886
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Speaker 2: me wanting to know the next part, make the next choice,

887
00:49:11,920 --> 00:49:14,319
Speaker 2: make the next move, see what can happen to this?

888
00:49:14,680 --> 00:49:16,680
Speaker 2: Oh it's over all right, We're coming back to this

889
00:49:17,239 --> 00:49:20,040
Speaker 2: and want to relive some of these things to really

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Speaker 2: do these choices. So really great game. Ten out of

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Speaker 2: ten recommend to anyone any gaming person I think would

892
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Speaker 2: love this aspect in this game also feels like it

893
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Speaker 2: as a personality desk. I told my partner I wanted

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Speaker 2: him to play so I can see what he chooses.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it does for sure.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, I know again, some of these games that

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Speaker 2: we've talked about past, we've been listener recommendations as well.

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Speaker 2: I think that might be our next episode. We'll pick

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Speaker 2: a few games out that we've not played from listener

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Speaker 2: recommendations and we'll talk about those.

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