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Speaker 1: Welcome to this episode of Debo and Joe. I'm your host,

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Speaker 1: James Debo Harrison, and I'm here with my co host,

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Speaker 1: Joe Hayden. Would you please make sure you like and

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Speaker 1: subscribe to our channel. Y'all want to miss nothing. How

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Speaker 1: you're doing today, Joe Man.

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Speaker 2: I'm doing great, Debo, Great to be with you here

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Speaker 2: on this great Friday. We got football, We got things

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Speaker 2: to talk about.

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Speaker 3: My good brother.

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Speaker 1: Definitely definitely Dallas. Dallas over there and Dallas and the

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Speaker 1: Eagles gave us a gave us a whole lot to

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Speaker 1: talk about, you know, especially before you know a snap

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Speaker 1: even got started over there for Philly. My man Jalen

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Speaker 1: he he he wanted to spit on this man right

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Speaker 1: before the kickoff. You know, in my mind, dude, like

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Speaker 1: the most disrespectful thing in the world you can do,

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Speaker 1: man's spit on somebody. Like it's nothing else in this

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Speaker 1: world that you could do that would be worse than

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Speaker 1: spitting on somebody. Like if somebody was to spit on me,

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Speaker 1: like go ahead, get my bail money together, like like

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Speaker 1: I'm going to jail. I don't know how that had

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Speaker 1: the control to not like react to it and do something.

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Speaker 3: You called me, Debo, Yes, you called me.

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Speaker 1: You called me when this happened.

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Speaker 2: I knew you felt some type of way, so I

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Speaker 2: couldn't wait to get your opinion. And that's why I'm saying,

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Speaker 2: like the spit, like I know you feel some type

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Speaker 2: of way. So literally, like Debo, you said, bail money

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Speaker 2: for show. How would you feel if that would have

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Speaker 2: been you in that situation? What would you have done?

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Speaker 3: My brother? I just needed that it would.

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Speaker 1: Dude, I can't even I would have had I wanted

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Speaker 1: to say. I want to say that I would be

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Speaker 1: able to control myself, especially you know, being in that situation, the.

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Speaker 3: Game of the season. You got to put yourself where

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Speaker 3: it is. You know what I'm saying. You are a

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Speaker 3: professional athlete.

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Speaker 2: And but he did look all right, let me let

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Speaker 2: me say something to when he spit on your mask,

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Speaker 2: so we got dag did a little spit first of

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Speaker 2: seeing it. But like when he spit on him, Debot,

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Speaker 2: he spit on my man's upper chest plate slash Adams Apple,

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Speaker 2: like he spit that on his neck, you know what

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Speaker 2: I'm saying. So I'm like the disrespect. You're right there

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Speaker 2: in close quarters and you just really spit on the man,

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Speaker 2: So like like that's what are we doing. That's the

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Speaker 2: craziest thing. I had to pause and look at it, like, man,

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Speaker 2: this is not normal.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Like when they said, like he I think he

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Speaker 1: spit on him, Like it's no way he went over

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Speaker 1: there spit on him, and like nobody reacted, like you

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Speaker 1: don't just calassually walk up to somebody and spit on him,

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Speaker 1: like like dude, Like the level of disrespective spit, it's

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Speaker 1: no level to it. Like the only level below that

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Speaker 1: is getting into a fight with a dude and he

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Speaker 1: beats you up by just slapping you and he never

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Speaker 1: straight open hand slaps. Yeah, like that's that's the only

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Speaker 1: other thing that's closed.

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Speaker 3: And like I don't see.

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Speaker 1: The only way I can describe or understand why the

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Speaker 1: offensive line didn't react is that there's no way.

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Speaker 2: In hell they saw that they that's like an all

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Speaker 2: out brawl, and that.

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Speaker 1: Teams y'all just canceled the first regular season game because

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Speaker 1: this is not going to stop.

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Speaker 2: That gives it gives, Like I would say, you know how,

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Speaker 2: I know how pouncy rocks, and I'm just saying for

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Speaker 2: the offensive lineman, just for protection, that gives.

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Speaker 4: You the right to throw ass because he's he literally he.

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Speaker 1: Didn't just he didn't, just didn't.

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Speaker 3: He didn't smack your He spit on your masks.

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Speaker 2: So now you could obviously thumb, you could fire off

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Speaker 2: on him and you might just get a flag. But

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Speaker 2: he's gonna get thrown out because the initial man, the referee,

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Speaker 2: was standing right there. He saw the spin. So I

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Speaker 2: think that's maybe why. I don't know if the lineman

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Speaker 1: There's no way on God's green earth, dude, that the

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Speaker 1: linement saw a spit.

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Speaker 3: It's no way. It's no way. I don't believe that if.

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Speaker 1: I see that and it is just it's you man,

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Speaker 1: and we and who I don't care who it is,

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Speaker 1: and they spit on yous. We're close quarters they and

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Speaker 1: he walked over to the other side. That's like an

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Speaker 1: automatic like he's supposed to be getting hands feet made

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Speaker 1: like all that. You know what I'm saying, Like it's

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Speaker 1: no other level that you can disrespect somebody with other

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Speaker 1: women spitting on him. Yes, to no extreme, I just do.

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Speaker 1: And the fact that they did not react to it like.

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Speaker 2: It was hopefully you saying that they didn't see they

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Speaker 2: had to not see the spit though, it's no way

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Speaker 1: But yeah, and then like to come out with you know,

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Speaker 1: dak spit. He went in between his linemen and he

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Speaker 1: spit due. He spit at the ground like he's not No,

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Speaker 1: he didn't even try and level it out to even

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Speaker 3: So all that other stuff you can miss me with

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Speaker 3: that noise.

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Speaker 2: You hit that man here bloom here here between here

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Speaker 2: and here direct bloom.

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Speaker 3: He spit out on the field.

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Speaker 1: You spit on the ground, you know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 2: Like you feel like it's in your direction, you feel disrespected,

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Speaker 2: that's on.

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Speaker 1: You coach on the field, bro, and you turn your

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Speaker 1: head to spit and you hit somebody shoeing the ft

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Speaker 1: y sure you and you ain't even it's one of

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Speaker 1: your teammates, but you just went over the fact. I

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Speaker 1: believe they got to suspend this dude. Man, I think

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Speaker 1: he got to get at least six games. You gotta

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Speaker 1: go ahead and make an example out of this dude.

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Speaker 1: It's no way it should not be some.

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Speaker 3: Sort of suspension with this bro.

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Speaker 2: What do you think I think he should get suspended

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Speaker 2: for show six games.

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Speaker 3: I don't know.

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Speaker 2: Six, but you gotta make it like you mad, you

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Speaker 2: want to make an example. Spit is not that's not cool.

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Speaker 2: It's not what we're doing. We're playing in this game.

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Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. Tensions get high, it is

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Speaker 2: what it is. But that's just foul.

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Speaker 1: You ain't even snapped the ball yet. Broay, what what

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Speaker 1: tension got high?

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Speaker 2: It's the first game of the season. He's building up anger,

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Speaker 2: you know. But you're right, You're right, James, he needs

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Speaker 2: to get suspended. I don't know about I would say.

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Speaker 2: I would say for show like two, I would say

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Speaker 2: to at least to at least two games, at least

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Speaker 2: two games, two games, just two games for that bro,

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Speaker 2: you say six six, Yeah, I think yeah. If you

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Speaker 2: want to make an example of him, understand, we can

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Speaker 2: do six and maybe knock down a couple. Okay, No,

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Speaker 2: for sure, we can start off at street and the

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Speaker 2: knock it down. I just yeah, it's just the Yeah, No,

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Speaker 2: I feel you gotta you gott hit him where it hurts,

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Speaker 2: and that's gonna be in this check. He's gonna list

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Speaker 2: six game checks. If that's the case. You know what

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Speaker 2: I'm saying, and that's that's that's that's gonna be where

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Speaker 2: it hurts. I would say, for sure, suspend him. The

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Speaker 2: length of the suspension is debatable. He needs to be suspended.

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Speaker 2: He's not gonna he gotta sit he gotta sit down.

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Speaker 3: You gotta sit down.

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Speaker 1: Yeahology and all that's that's that's you know, that's that's

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Speaker 1: great and cool. But at at the end of the day, man,

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Speaker 1: you like you spin on somebody, Like if you're in

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Speaker 1: an argument with somebody, that is the last that is

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Speaker 1: the last thing that you are thinking about doing, is

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Speaker 1: spitting on them, unless, dude, you don't spin on you

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Speaker 1: first the first time your kids spit, what you do

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Speaker 1: pop them in their mouth? Right, like, you don't do.

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Speaker 3: That?

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Speaker 1: Just don't make sense anyway, Man, him getting kicked out

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Speaker 1: the game really didn't help help It helped the Cowboys,

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Speaker 1: but it didn't help them enough to win the game.

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Speaker 1: I believe twenty four to twenty the Eagles ended up

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Speaker 1: beating them. Anyway, What what what takes with things that

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Speaker 1: you see that came from this game that you would

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Speaker 1: want to, you know, talk about or point out that

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Speaker 1: the Cowboys could obviously do better to help them, you know,

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Speaker 1: secure that win.

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Speaker 3: I think it was more I would say Cowboys.

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Speaker 1: Man.

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Speaker 2: The thing is, that's what good teams do. You're going

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Speaker 2: to figure out a way to win the game. The

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Speaker 2: Eagles Jalen Hurts, he threw for one hundred and fifty

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Speaker 2: two yards win nineteen for twenty three eighty two percent

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Speaker 2: passing completing completion rate. You know what I'm saying, nothing

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Speaker 2: too crazy, But end of the day, when the game,

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Speaker 2: when the season starts, you want to get out of

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Speaker 2: these games with wins.

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Speaker 3: You want to win. You want to get to the

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Speaker 3: next game. You want to get to practice. Watch the tape.

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Speaker 2: Watching tape on a win is way easier than watching

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Speaker 2: that tape on the loss. So Dallas Cowboys like and

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Speaker 2: they didn't have their best defensive lineman their interior alignment,

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Speaker 2: so they ended up being able to just get out

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Speaker 2: of that situation winning the game. Defense play solid, only

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Speaker 2: gave up twenty points, you know what I'm saying. So

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Speaker 2: these are just messy games where nobody's really into the flow.

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Speaker 2: You don't really know what's going on. AJ Brown wasn't targeted.

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Speaker 2: He had one catch for eight yards. You know what

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Speaker 2: I'm saying, Like they just at the end of the day,

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Speaker 2: the offense wasn't doing too much. But these are the

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Speaker 2: games that you just end up winning. You want to

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Speaker 2: get out of stadiums with w's not els because it's

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Speaker 2: way easier to figure out. Let's let's study from this,

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Speaker 2: let's let's get right, but let's not spit on fucking somebody.

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Speaker 2: If you're in the game, that'll help our defense and

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Speaker 2: just start off, you know what I'm saying, like that part,

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Speaker 2: and then we can start aj Brown getting him into

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Speaker 2: the mix. Sakon Barkley scored a touchdown, only had sixty

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Speaker 3: But you leave those stadium.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, made up a lot a lot of that with

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Speaker 1: you know, scrambling and coming up with big plays, you know,

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Speaker 1: getting in there. I think on you know, Dallas side

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Speaker 1: of the ball, they need to you know, I think

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Speaker 1: shore up like just small things. I think they need

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Speaker 1: to get They need to get what's his name, picking's

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Speaker 1: more involved. They need to get on more touches, you know,

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Speaker 1: getting more targets. I believe they had over something team

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Speaker 1: targets for UH for CD. Also, CD had had a

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Speaker 1: few drops. I think he had three or four drops there.

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Speaker 1: But I think the big thing that really hurt him

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Speaker 1: was was that turnover and then you know the rank delay.

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Speaker 1: It seemed like both teams couldn't get started back from that.

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Speaker 3: Defense.

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Speaker 1: You know again, I mean more more, more pressure from

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Speaker 1: from the Dallas defense. Obviously Parsons is in there. I

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Speaker 1: wonder why, uh, I don't know why. The lack of

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Speaker 1: pressure debo. Yeah, I mean, you know, hurts running the

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Speaker 1: ball hurt him, you know, him scrambling. His ability to

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Speaker 1: uh you know, extend plays and make and make make

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Speaker 1: plays with his legs was really the big, the big difference.

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Speaker 1: And like you said, he didn't go out there, you know,

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Speaker 1: slinging the ball left and right here and there. But

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Speaker 2: You win games that you're not really supposed to win,

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Speaker 3: Win the game, get out of the stadium.

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Speaker 2: See, that's the thing I never want to give slander

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Speaker 1: Like, I'm with you, he's in that top ten. I can't.

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Speaker 2: I mean, it's early, you know, I think AJ Brown

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Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, Dunkan is doing what you

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Speaker 2: I think them getting George Pickens also along CD lamb.

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Speaker 3: He dropped some balls. That's not the normal. CD.

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Speaker 2: He's still is seven for one ten, but he's gonna

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Speaker 2: get right. Getting George Pickens is another number one. You

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Speaker 2: know what I'm saying, Like, you need to throw that

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Speaker 1: And that's what I say.

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Speaker 3: You need to get him more touches.

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Speaker 3: We've seen it before, you know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 2: So I think just getting able to get him involved.

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Speaker 1: Man, Like you know how much you think they missed

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Speaker 2: Like you said, there wasn't the pressure of being able

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Speaker 3: So I think with Micah there.

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Speaker 3: To get to him. He's the best defend the lineman

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Speaker 2: And he was not there to help run that man

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Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, so, uh, I guess according to Adam Scheffner, uh,

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Speaker 1: Like it's no way in hell that Jerry Drones was

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Speaker 1: You imagine, dude, the Eagles with Michael partisis right now,

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Speaker 1: They would have to. They would have to. Dude. I

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Speaker 3: Man different Devo.

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Speaker 4: That man is in Wisconsin, there ain't nothing to do

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Speaker 2: Everybody's at the facility getting right, chilling, getting treatment.

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Speaker 2: I think everybody's getting that treatment, getting that work. In

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Speaker 1: We know this.

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Speaker 2: What are people doing on Tuesdays? That's your time that

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Speaker 2: So being that and he's saying, Wisconsin, everybody's there, they're

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Speaker 2: You're in Wisconsin. Everybody's coming in the facility because you're

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00:20:15,840 --> 00:20:18,040
Speaker 2: getting treatment, getting their body right. It's one thousand percent.

437
00:20:18,359 --> 00:20:21,760
Speaker 2: But I don't think it's that serious. I think I don't.

438
00:20:21,840 --> 00:20:25,800
Speaker 1: I don't see it as a dig at the Cowboys.

439
00:20:26,160 --> 00:20:29,400
Speaker 1: I see it as him being exposed to a different

440
00:20:29,520 --> 00:20:31,760
Speaker 1: locker room, a different way of moving. So from the

441
00:20:31,800 --> 00:20:34,919
Speaker 1: time I was in Pittsburgh from two thousand and two

442
00:20:35,040 --> 00:20:38,000
Speaker 1: until probably twenty twelve, that's what we had.

443
00:20:38,080 --> 00:20:38,800
Speaker 3: We had a group of.

444
00:20:38,840 --> 00:20:41,600
Speaker 1: Dudes that were in there that everybody were in there together.

445
00:20:41,960 --> 00:20:45,040
Speaker 1: Like we hung out on the off time, you know,

446
00:20:45,160 --> 00:20:46,680
Speaker 1: we'd go out, hang out.

447
00:20:46,560 --> 00:20:48,480
Speaker 3: Do whatever, go out kick it.

448
00:20:48,800 --> 00:20:52,320
Speaker 1: And first thing in the morning, Yo, six thirty seven o'clock,

449
00:20:52,359 --> 00:20:55,280
Speaker 1: you're in the gym at the latest, working out, getting

450
00:20:55,280 --> 00:20:57,520
Speaker 1: it going. And that's just the you know, that's just

451
00:20:57,560 --> 00:21:01,520
Speaker 1: the atmosphere that those players from that time to us

452
00:21:01,840 --> 00:21:06,439
Speaker 1: passed down and it just continued, and to be honest

453
00:21:06,480 --> 00:21:07,399
Speaker 1: with you, like.

454
00:21:07,400 --> 00:21:09,080
Speaker 3: As it went further and further.

455
00:21:09,400 --> 00:21:14,200
Speaker 1: In twenty twelve, I ended up going to Cincinnati and

456
00:21:14,359 --> 00:21:19,639
Speaker 1: thirteen and you know, I came back unretired and was

457
00:21:19,680 --> 00:21:21,879
Speaker 1: back in fourteen and it wasn't.

458
00:21:22,000 --> 00:21:23,679
Speaker 3: It wasn't the same. You know what I'm saying.

459
00:21:24,040 --> 00:21:26,960
Speaker 1: You didn't have the same where it was a whole

460
00:21:27,200 --> 00:21:29,199
Speaker 1: you know, like team thing you had. You had your

461
00:21:29,200 --> 00:21:31,000
Speaker 1: little cut up groups, you know what I mean, Like

462
00:21:31,040 --> 00:21:33,199
Speaker 1: you had your groups, like maybe it was offense defense,

463
00:21:33,200 --> 00:21:34,640
Speaker 1: where before it was just everybody.

464
00:21:34,640 --> 00:21:35,200
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying.

465
00:21:35,200 --> 00:21:37,679
Speaker 1: When Bussy and all them was there, it was everybody.

466
00:21:38,920 --> 00:21:41,199
Speaker 1: Now it's a little more offense defense. And then it

467
00:21:41,240 --> 00:21:43,320
Speaker 1: even got you know, some things got cut down even

468
00:21:43,320 --> 00:21:45,560
Speaker 1: more than that. You know, it was positionally you know,

469
00:21:45,640 --> 00:21:49,040
Speaker 1: it might be you know, receivers and dvs.

470
00:21:48,600 --> 00:21:51,440
Speaker 3: And all that. So I understand what he's saying. He's

471
00:21:51,480 --> 00:21:52,280
Speaker 3: not taking a knock.

472
00:21:52,320 --> 00:21:55,760
Speaker 1: He's been exposed to something else that he didn't think

473
00:21:55,880 --> 00:21:58,520
Speaker 1: what happened, because that's that's all he was exposed to.

474
00:21:58,680 --> 00:22:01,639
Speaker 1: This is something newer, he liked. He's enjoying it, and

475
00:22:01,760 --> 00:22:03,880
Speaker 1: he'm not. He's not taking a knock at somebody else.

476
00:22:03,920 --> 00:22:06,080
Speaker 1: He's saying, I'm seeing something else and it's good. I

477
00:22:06,200 --> 00:22:06,479
Speaker 1: like it.

478
00:22:06,520 --> 00:22:08,679
Speaker 3: I want more of it. I love that. I love that.

479
00:22:08,800 --> 00:22:12,159
Speaker 2: No, for sure, Like like you said too in Cleveland,

480
00:22:12,240 --> 00:22:15,160
Speaker 2: you just different. Like when I when I went from

481
00:22:15,440 --> 00:22:17,880
Speaker 2: in Cleveland on tuesdays, like you said, this is the day

482
00:22:17,920 --> 00:22:19,960
Speaker 2: off you would have. Like you said, positional groups, we

483
00:22:20,000 --> 00:22:22,640
Speaker 2: were really cool, defenses get tight. But when I came

484
00:22:22,680 --> 00:22:26,080
Speaker 2: to Pittsburg, Will Gay and those dudes they will always

485
00:22:26,119 --> 00:22:28,560
Speaker 2: have some stuff like those defensive meetings, there was like

486
00:22:28,680 --> 00:22:31,840
Speaker 2: mandatory kickets, you know what I'm saying, Like not really mandatory,

487
00:22:31,840 --> 00:22:34,400
Speaker 2: but dudes wanted to hang out, like we were gonna

488
00:22:34,400 --> 00:22:36,560
Speaker 2: watch this film and we're gonna get some good food,

489
00:22:36,760 --> 00:22:39,280
Speaker 2: like and just really bond to be able to talk

490
00:22:39,320 --> 00:22:41,720
Speaker 2: and really be able to get this camaraditie. So there's

491
00:22:41,760 --> 00:22:43,199
Speaker 2: different and that's what I was trying to do when

492
00:22:43,200 --> 00:22:43,879
Speaker 2: I was in Cleveland.

493
00:22:43,880 --> 00:22:44,560
Speaker 1: At first, some.

494
00:22:44,600 --> 00:22:47,359
Speaker 2: OG's abe elam dudes that do it you kind of

495
00:22:47,400 --> 00:22:49,960
Speaker 2: like said, you just fall into it because oh you're

496
00:22:49,960 --> 00:22:51,840
Speaker 2: gonna tell you kind of where we're going, where were

497
00:22:51,840 --> 00:22:53,399
Speaker 2: meeting at, and that's what you're gonna do. And then

498
00:22:53,400 --> 00:22:55,760
Speaker 2: when you become OLGI, you want to set that thing

499
00:22:55,840 --> 00:22:57,840
Speaker 2: up too, with the food, making sure everybody's.

500
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Speaker 3: Good so they feel apart. Everybody knows we in this together.

501
00:23:01,320 --> 00:23:02,800
Speaker 2: The end of the day, we grind to be figuring

502
00:23:02,840 --> 00:23:06,120
Speaker 2: it out, but meeting and us doing these little out

503
00:23:06,119 --> 00:23:08,600
Speaker 2: of the off the team of coaches is not here.

504
00:23:08,960 --> 00:23:11,240
Speaker 2: This is what makes me know your family, what makes

505
00:23:11,280 --> 00:23:13,440
Speaker 2: me feel like we are actually bonding, you know what

506
00:23:13,480 --> 00:23:16,359
Speaker 2: I'm saying, getting along that camaraderie. So I understand exactly

507
00:23:16,400 --> 00:23:19,040
Speaker 2: what you're saying from that perspective, because that's that's.

508
00:23:18,880 --> 00:23:20,840
Speaker 3: A real thing. Maybe they weren't doing as much in.

509
00:23:20,880 --> 00:23:23,719
Speaker 2: Dallas, like he said, the OG's probably didn't bring them

510
00:23:23,760 --> 00:23:25,800
Speaker 2: in as much, didn't like taking them out the dinners

511
00:23:25,880 --> 00:23:27,160
Speaker 2: or show them the way. You know what I'm saying,

512
00:23:27,240 --> 00:23:29,480
Speaker 2: People want to get led, and now he goes there,

513
00:23:29,720 --> 00:23:31,879
Speaker 2: it's a whole different vibe. I got somebody really like,

514
00:23:31,880 --> 00:23:33,960
Speaker 2: oh dangn that's what's good, like boom, so this is

515
00:23:34,000 --> 00:23:36,440
Speaker 2: what we're doing and everybody's just kicking it cooling that

516
00:23:36,520 --> 00:23:38,680
Speaker 2: he's like, man, these dudes are some good as good

517
00:23:38,720 --> 00:23:39,680
Speaker 2: ass dudes.

518
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Speaker 1: Right right right, speaking of people that was doing things

519
00:23:42,840 --> 00:23:44,760
Speaker 1: the way he just found out they doing them. I

520
00:23:44,760 --> 00:23:49,240
Speaker 1: guess Stefan Digg's decisions and not speak to the Boston

521
00:23:49,280 --> 00:23:53,560
Speaker 1: media br the local reporter is the wrong way, it says,

522
00:23:53,720 --> 00:23:58,879
Speaker 1: uh Diggs apologize, I guess for coming off rule he said, obviously,

523
00:23:59,400 --> 00:24:01,080
Speaker 1: I don't want to come across as that.

524
00:24:01,560 --> 00:24:02,600
Speaker 3: Well, they said he was.

525
00:24:04,000 --> 00:24:08,320
Speaker 1: They said they said he was a pain the posteria.

526
00:24:08,880 --> 00:24:11,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, dude, my braces be locking me up. Bro.

527
00:24:15,119 --> 00:24:17,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, he was a pain in the ass. You know,

528
00:24:18,119 --> 00:24:22,720
Speaker 1: obviously they said posteria, so it wasn't one of us. Uh,

529
00:24:23,359 --> 00:24:26,000
Speaker 1: But he said, obviously, I don't want to come across

530
00:24:26,080 --> 00:24:29,760
Speaker 1: as that. I'm going to say this. I want to

531
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Speaker 1: be very clear. I'm an adult. I apologize. I'm not

532
00:24:33,840 --> 00:24:36,439
Speaker 1: up here the ego trip. I'm not up here to

533
00:24:36,520 --> 00:24:39,960
Speaker 1: rub any anybody the wrong way or say anything that's

534
00:24:40,000 --> 00:24:44,000
Speaker 1: click bait. If I rubbed anyone wrong, I really want

535
00:24:44,080 --> 00:24:48,920
Speaker 1: to apologize. So, like, you know, the man said, he's

536
00:24:49,240 --> 00:24:52,000
Speaker 1: you know, he's up there. He's he's trying to lock in.

537
00:24:52,080 --> 00:24:54,200
Speaker 1: He's making sure he take care of his body, he's

538
00:24:54,240 --> 00:24:54,640
Speaker 1: take care.

539
00:24:54,560 --> 00:24:56,160
Speaker 3: Of his mind. You know, it's camp.

540
00:24:56,240 --> 00:24:59,280
Speaker 1: He didn't want to get, you know, into the whole

541
00:24:59,359 --> 00:25:02,560
Speaker 1: rigama ro yet you know, and right now, I guess

542
00:25:02,600 --> 00:25:04,520
Speaker 1: you know, you're at the point where it's mandatory now,

543
00:25:04,640 --> 00:25:07,159
Speaker 1: you know, So he's doing what it is that he

544
00:25:07,240 --> 00:25:09,320
Speaker 1: has to do right now. But you know, at that

545
00:25:09,400 --> 00:25:11,360
Speaker 1: point in camp, he was saying he wanted to lock in,

546
00:25:11,600 --> 00:25:16,680
Speaker 1: and I guess the two individuals they actually, I guess

547
00:25:16,680 --> 00:25:18,080
Speaker 1: had a little an apology too.

548
00:25:18,640 --> 00:25:19,080
Speaker 3: Do you.

549
00:25:20,520 --> 00:25:25,640
Speaker 1: Do you think that that's something that you would do

550
00:25:25,840 --> 00:25:30,000
Speaker 1: or that do you think he was actually just locking

551
00:25:30,040 --> 00:25:32,560
Speaker 1: in or do you think he was just being an

552
00:25:32,480 --> 00:25:34,280
Speaker 1: a hole as they say, a pain.

553
00:25:34,760 --> 00:25:37,080
Speaker 3: I can't even say the word bro. I don't think

554
00:25:37,320 --> 00:25:38,560
Speaker 3: I know Diggs personally.

555
00:25:38,920 --> 00:25:39,960
Speaker 1: That's my man.

556
00:25:40,080 --> 00:25:42,679
Speaker 3: He's from the DMV, we're from the same area.

557
00:25:43,200 --> 00:25:45,200
Speaker 2: Like, I know him, I know his brother, all of them,

558
00:25:45,320 --> 00:25:47,000
Speaker 2: and Diz is a really, really good dude.

559
00:25:48,000 --> 00:25:49,760
Speaker 3: I would say that. You know, he had a lot

560
00:25:49,800 --> 00:25:51,480
Speaker 3: of off the field stuff really going on.

561
00:25:51,520 --> 00:25:51,960
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.

562
00:25:51,960 --> 00:25:54,159
Speaker 2: He was in a situations so he just wanted to

563
00:25:54,240 --> 00:25:56,720
Speaker 2: keep it football. He's in a new team, knows what

564
00:25:56,760 --> 00:25:58,480
Speaker 2: they're trying to talk about, and he really wants to

565
00:25:58,520 --> 00:26:01,000
Speaker 2: keep the main thing, the main thing. Coming off with injury,

566
00:26:01,119 --> 00:26:02,840
Speaker 2: he knows he got some stuff to prove and I

567
00:26:02,840 --> 00:26:04,800
Speaker 2: think he's going to do it. So I don't think

568
00:26:04,840 --> 00:26:07,320
Speaker 2: he was trying to be an asshole. He just knows

569
00:26:07,400 --> 00:26:09,520
Speaker 2: that people are trying to make the story not what

570
00:26:09,560 --> 00:26:11,320
Speaker 2: it is, and he wants to keep it on football

571
00:26:11,440 --> 00:26:13,119
Speaker 2: and the only way is to.

572
00:26:12,720 --> 00:26:14,879
Speaker 3: Stay away from the media. Just stay off of it

573
00:26:14,960 --> 00:26:15,520
Speaker 3: right now.

574
00:26:15,480 --> 00:26:18,399
Speaker 2: Really lock in, try to be the patriot way of old, Like,

575
00:26:18,760 --> 00:26:19,919
Speaker 2: don't really worry about that.

576
00:26:19,960 --> 00:26:20,440
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.

577
00:26:20,440 --> 00:26:22,760
Speaker 2: You're locked in, you got you're trying to do football,

578
00:26:22,840 --> 00:26:25,240
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. So I understand where he's

579
00:26:25,280 --> 00:26:28,160
Speaker 2: coming from. And now just getting back to the media,

580
00:26:28,160 --> 00:26:29,919
Speaker 2: you're gonna have to respond, you're going to talk. So

581
00:26:29,960 --> 00:26:32,879
Speaker 2: I think he really, really, genuinely does want to apologize,

582
00:26:32,920 --> 00:26:35,240
Speaker 2: really did do that genuinely from his heart, because he's

583
00:26:35,280 --> 00:26:37,800
Speaker 2: a good dude. He doesn't mean any harm, but he

584
00:26:37,880 --> 00:26:39,800
Speaker 2: knows how the media is and they could tie things

585
00:26:39,880 --> 00:26:42,800
Speaker 2: up and try to make him look crazy. So staying

586
00:26:42,840 --> 00:26:44,920
Speaker 2: away from him is a way, Like you're not gonna

587
00:26:44,920 --> 00:26:46,560
Speaker 2: be able to confuse nothing if I don't say nothing,

588
00:26:46,560 --> 00:26:47,480
Speaker 2: if I don't talk to y'all.

589
00:26:47,600 --> 00:26:48,200
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying.

590
00:26:48,240 --> 00:26:51,160
Speaker 1: I think that was great. You can't mix something at

591
00:26:51,520 --> 00:26:53,800
Speaker 1: if I don't say nothing to you, then it ain't

592
00:26:53,840 --> 00:26:57,520
Speaker 1: it ain't. It ain't nothing that you confuse. I don't

593
00:26:57,520 --> 00:26:58,800
Speaker 1: want to talk to you, you know what I'm saying.

594
00:26:58,800 --> 00:27:00,239
Speaker 1: So that's the most you can say. That's what they

595
00:27:00,240 --> 00:27:02,359
Speaker 1: were saying he's not talking to us, so he fuck him.

596
00:27:02,359 --> 00:27:04,399
Speaker 1: So but basically like he's like, You're not gonna be

597
00:27:04,400 --> 00:27:06,399
Speaker 1: able to say nothing because I'm really locked in.

598
00:27:06,400 --> 00:27:08,800
Speaker 2: I'm on my football. You haven't seen nothing about Diggs.

599
00:27:08,840 --> 00:27:11,160
Speaker 2: He's I love that man, So I'm rooting for him.

600
00:27:11,160 --> 00:27:13,119
Speaker 2: I hope the best, nothing but the best for Diggs.

601
00:27:13,160 --> 00:27:15,400
Speaker 2: So I think that that's what he was on, Like, Nah,

602
00:27:15,440 --> 00:27:17,399
Speaker 2: don't get this confused. I really got I'm on a

603
00:27:17,440 --> 00:27:19,680
Speaker 2: new team, I'm coming off injury. I'm trying ball out.

604
00:27:19,920 --> 00:27:24,120
Speaker 2: That's what it is. Yeah, so let's let's get over

605
00:27:24,160 --> 00:27:26,520
Speaker 2: here to the nfl PA. I guess the NFLPA interim

606
00:27:26,560 --> 00:27:31,400
Speaker 2: director David White says an eighteen game schedule is not inevitable.

607
00:27:31,720 --> 00:27:33,399
Speaker 3: What do you What do you think of that comment?

608
00:27:33,440 --> 00:27:33,920
Speaker 1: Bro? Man?

609
00:27:33,960 --> 00:27:36,240
Speaker 3: They tripping, They just trying to get more and more bag.

610
00:27:37,320 --> 00:27:42,400
Speaker 1: As far as him saying that it's not inevitable for me, uh,

611
00:27:42,440 --> 00:27:43,560
Speaker 1: that's an absolute lie.

612
00:27:43,640 --> 00:27:45,400
Speaker 3: That is inevitable.

613
00:27:45,840 --> 00:27:48,880
Speaker 1: That is going to be one of the things that

614
00:27:49,000 --> 00:27:52,159
Speaker 1: the NFL is going to want when it comes time

615
00:27:52,560 --> 00:28:00,679
Speaker 1: for them to renegotiate this new collective bargaining agreement. With

616
00:28:00,840 --> 00:28:06,440
Speaker 1: that being said, him not saying it's not inevitable. It

617
00:28:06,480 --> 00:28:10,320
Speaker 1: is inevitable. It's going to happen. And if you're saying

618
00:28:10,320 --> 00:28:13,560
Speaker 1: that it's not, I don't believe you've got yourself into

619
00:28:13,600 --> 00:28:18,240
Speaker 1: a situation that you understand what is going on obviously,

620
00:28:18,359 --> 00:28:21,840
Speaker 1: and you haven't been through the history of how this

621
00:28:21,880 --> 00:28:24,720
Speaker 1: whole thing has went down. I don't know if you

622
00:28:24,720 --> 00:28:30,560
Speaker 1: were playing when Gene Upshaw was in the position that

623
00:28:30,600 --> 00:28:35,760
Speaker 1: he's in owedge the executive director. So when Jane was

624
00:28:36,240 --> 00:28:38,520
Speaker 1: in there, he had told us, dude, this was like

625
00:28:38,560 --> 00:28:40,400
Speaker 1: two thousand and seven, two thousand and eight, he.

626
00:28:40,360 --> 00:28:44,080
Speaker 3: Was like, Yo, the NFL is going to lock you out.

627
00:28:44,800 --> 00:28:48,880
Speaker 1: You guys need to save up money, and you need

628
00:28:48,920 --> 00:28:51,840
Speaker 1: to save up one hundred percent of what it is

629
00:28:52,400 --> 00:28:54,280
Speaker 1: that you make over the course of the next I

630
00:28:54,280 --> 00:28:56,640
Speaker 1: believe you said two or three years at that time

631
00:28:57,880 --> 00:29:00,440
Speaker 1: to make sure you can make it through a twelve

632
00:29:00,640 --> 00:29:03,719
Speaker 1: month lockout. Because he said, come twenty eleven, they're going

633
00:29:03,800 --> 00:29:08,560
Speaker 1: to lock us out. He ended up not making it

634
00:29:08,800 --> 00:29:10,840
Speaker 1: to that. He ended up passing. I believe it was

635
00:29:10,880 --> 00:29:14,680
Speaker 1: two thousand and eight. And then we got the worst

636
00:29:14,720 --> 00:29:17,360
Speaker 1: commissioner to ever I mean, we got the worst executive

637
00:29:17,400 --> 00:29:19,120
Speaker 1: director to ever have.

638
00:29:19,040 --> 00:29:20,120
Speaker 3: And that was de Smith.

639
00:29:20,920 --> 00:29:27,080
Speaker 1: D Smith did everything possible, dude, to just increase the

640
00:29:27,320 --> 00:29:35,760
Speaker 1: power that he had as the NFLPA executive director for

641
00:29:37,040 --> 00:29:37,840
Speaker 1: the players.

642
00:29:38,200 --> 00:29:40,800
Speaker 3: It wasn't anything, you know what I'm saying.

643
00:29:41,200 --> 00:29:43,400
Speaker 1: He made it to where he took a lot of

644
00:29:43,400 --> 00:29:48,080
Speaker 1: the power away from the players being able to make

645
00:29:48,120 --> 00:29:53,400
Speaker 1: the decisions of who could actually even be voted in

646
00:29:54,440 --> 00:29:59,640
Speaker 1: as a executive director. He put a whole executive committee

647
00:29:59,680 --> 00:30:04,600
Speaker 1: together that actually voted on who would run against him.

648
00:30:05,760 --> 00:30:08,000
Speaker 1: The committee he put together voted on who would run

649
00:30:08,080 --> 00:30:12,719
Speaker 1: against him and took that vote away from the players,

650
00:30:12,720 --> 00:30:17,640
Speaker 1: where before the players actually made the vote of you

651
00:30:17,640 --> 00:30:19,800
Speaker 1: know who it is they wanted to run, and then

652
00:30:19,880 --> 00:30:21,800
Speaker 1: from there they voted.

653
00:30:21,480 --> 00:30:24,840
Speaker 3: On you know, he would do it. I don't believe.

654
00:30:25,240 --> 00:30:27,800
Speaker 3: I don't believe David White has a good understanding.

655
00:30:28,000 --> 00:30:31,080
Speaker 1: Prime example, I went down to the facility yesterday still

656
00:30:31,120 --> 00:30:33,840
Speaker 1: is facility yesterday, and he was supposed to be down there.

657
00:30:33,840 --> 00:30:37,760
Speaker 1: I believe it was him, Don Don Davis, who is

658
00:30:37,800 --> 00:30:40,440
Speaker 1: the chief player officer, and.

659
00:30:42,280 --> 00:30:45,240
Speaker 3: Jalen Maven I believe it's his name. I really don't know.

660
00:30:45,360 --> 00:30:49,680
Speaker 1: He's supposed to be the president of Active Players. He's

661
00:30:49,680 --> 00:30:51,720
Speaker 1: not even an active player, right now himself, he's not

662
00:30:51,760 --> 00:30:55,240
Speaker 1: even on a roster, but they were supposed to be there,

663
00:30:56,160 --> 00:30:58,520
Speaker 1: and this is supposed to be his very first trip

664
00:30:58,600 --> 00:31:03,080
Speaker 1: to Pittsburgh and he doesn't even show up. No, bru,

665
00:31:03,920 --> 00:31:09,000
Speaker 1: he doesn't even he doesn't even show up for it. Right, So, now,

666
00:31:10,240 --> 00:31:14,400
Speaker 1: like even d Smith, as bad as he was, came,

667
00:31:14,640 --> 00:31:17,040
Speaker 1: he showed up when he was supposed to show up.

668
00:31:17,440 --> 00:31:22,160
Speaker 1: So you're telling me that's Trump and Trump executive director

669
00:31:23,160 --> 00:31:27,640
Speaker 1: for his first trip introduction to the group of guys

670
00:31:27,640 --> 00:31:30,800
Speaker 1: he's supposed to be, you know, out here working for

671
00:31:31,320 --> 00:31:36,640
Speaker 1: and and and defending, doesn't even show up. Your chief officer,

672
00:31:36,840 --> 00:31:39,080
Speaker 1: your what is it, your chief player officer, he doesn't.

673
00:31:39,120 --> 00:31:41,240
Speaker 1: He doesn't show up. All three of these dudes don't

674
00:31:41,240 --> 00:31:44,560
Speaker 1: show up. And on top of that, did.

675
00:31:44,400 --> 00:31:46,440
Speaker 3: They did they Did they send a message?

676
00:31:46,480 --> 00:31:50,600
Speaker 1: Did they send an email? No? No, no, I knew

677
00:31:50,600 --> 00:31:53,080
Speaker 1: of nothing. Why they weren't showing up. You had a

678
00:31:53,120 --> 00:31:56,960
Speaker 1: couple other n f l p A reps that showed

679
00:31:57,000 --> 00:32:00,800
Speaker 1: up that assumed that they were already there, and I'm like, no,

680
00:32:00,880 --> 00:32:03,400
Speaker 1: they're not there. They're not on the field. So you know,

681
00:32:03,800 --> 00:32:08,640
Speaker 1: the nfl PA leadership, dude, is weak at every level.

682
00:32:09,320 --> 00:32:14,440
Speaker 1: We need strong leadership. We need competent leadership. We're not

683
00:32:14,480 --> 00:32:16,880
Speaker 1: going to show up. Here's the thing, it doesn't make

684
00:32:16,880 --> 00:32:20,600
Speaker 1: any sense. Before the last one, I went and was like, yo,

685
00:32:20,840 --> 00:32:22,600
Speaker 1: I want to get I want to I want to

686
00:32:22,640 --> 00:32:26,480
Speaker 1: run for you know, executive director. I told Don Davis this.

687
00:32:27,840 --> 00:32:29,720
Speaker 1: He never dropped my name in a hat. I know

688
00:32:29,800 --> 00:32:32,760
Speaker 1: this for a fact because I talked to a person

689
00:32:34,160 --> 00:32:37,920
Speaker 1: exactly the committee. You know why that happened because he

690
00:32:38,080 --> 00:32:42,680
Speaker 1: was trying to get it currently trying to get it now.

691
00:32:42,840 --> 00:32:50,080
Speaker 1: But again, man, i'm running for executive director. My name

692
00:32:50,120 --> 00:32:52,840
Speaker 1: will be in a hat. It will be there. So

693
00:32:54,920 --> 00:32:58,400
Speaker 1: the leadership that we need is a guy that is

694
00:32:59,160 --> 00:33:01,760
Speaker 1: like Gene Upshaw was. He was a guy that played

695
00:33:02,200 --> 00:33:06,440
Speaker 1: the game. He understands what we go through. He understands

696
00:33:06,800 --> 00:33:09,200
Speaker 1: what happens like I'm a guy. I was a practice

697
00:33:09,200 --> 00:33:12,720
Speaker 1: squad guy. I was a guy that was a minimum guy.

698
00:33:12,960 --> 00:33:16,240
Speaker 1: I was a guy that actually made money.

699
00:33:16,480 --> 00:33:18,360
Speaker 3: I'm a guy that's retired right now.

700
00:33:18,560 --> 00:33:20,440
Speaker 1: So I know all the things that we're gonna that

701
00:33:20,560 --> 00:33:23,000
Speaker 1: that we go through, that we've been through and you're

702
00:33:23,040 --> 00:33:25,800
Speaker 1: going to go through when that time comes that you're

703
00:33:26,120 --> 00:33:28,440
Speaker 1: you know done with football or football is done with

704
00:33:28,520 --> 00:33:31,880
Speaker 1: you, you know, and it's just you know the difficulty. I'll

705
00:33:31,920 --> 00:33:34,280
Speaker 1: just bring up one little thing like your HR. You know,

706
00:33:34,440 --> 00:33:37,040
Speaker 1: you got all that money in your HR, right, and

707
00:33:37,040 --> 00:33:39,200
Speaker 1: that's for your that's where you know, when you get done,

708
00:33:39,600 --> 00:33:41,880
Speaker 1: you got your health reimbursement stuff so you can get

709
00:33:41,880 --> 00:33:45,040
Speaker 1: your insurance paid and all that stuff right. Well, for

710
00:33:45,120 --> 00:33:48,680
Speaker 1: you to get that reimbursement, the money's here, right, the

711
00:33:48,680 --> 00:33:52,760
Speaker 1: money's here. But the money is there. But what you

712
00:33:52,800 --> 00:33:55,000
Speaker 1: got to do to get to it, you don't know

713
00:33:55,040 --> 00:33:58,120
Speaker 1: what's to feel the broken glass you got to crawl through, dude.

714
00:33:58,240 --> 00:34:01,200
Speaker 1: It took me almost too hours, in thirty four minutes

715
00:34:01,280 --> 00:34:02,600
Speaker 1: just to get back fifty bucks.

716
00:34:02,400 --> 00:34:04,480
Speaker 3: A reimbursement of a credit thing.

717
00:34:04,640 --> 00:34:07,320
Speaker 1: And that was only because I got lucky and got

718
00:34:07,360 --> 00:34:09,960
Speaker 1: a hold of a signal person that sat down there

719
00:34:09,960 --> 00:34:13,160
Speaker 1: with me and actually called the other insurance company. It's

720
00:34:13,200 --> 00:34:16,200
Speaker 1: things like that that guys are running into. So when

721
00:34:16,239 --> 00:34:18,040
Speaker 1: you have guys that are retired and they're like, you know,

722
00:34:18,080 --> 00:34:19,719
Speaker 1: I can't get this, I can't get that. You know,

723
00:34:19,760 --> 00:34:22,760
Speaker 1: you telling him get your HR eight, Well yeah, it's there.

724
00:34:22,880 --> 00:34:24,480
Speaker 1: He just can't get to it because he got to

725
00:34:24,520 --> 00:34:26,759
Speaker 1: crawl across this glass that he can't get to and

726
00:34:26,840 --> 00:34:28,680
Speaker 1: if you're a guy that has a regular nine to five,

727
00:34:29,480 --> 00:34:32,120
Speaker 1: they're only open regular hours, so you don't have the

728
00:34:32,160 --> 00:34:34,760
Speaker 1: time to sit there and do all that to actually,

729
00:34:34,800 --> 00:34:36,840
Speaker 1: you know, go through the if you learn it. I

730
00:34:36,880 --> 00:34:39,080
Speaker 1: actually talked to four different people before I got one

731
00:34:39,080 --> 00:34:41,600
Speaker 1: guy that actually sat down there with me on the

732
00:34:41,640 --> 00:34:44,120
Speaker 1: phone for like I said, two hours thirty four minutes

733
00:34:44,160 --> 00:34:46,680
Speaker 1: and went through the process to show me how it

734
00:34:46,719 --> 00:34:47,719
Speaker 1: was done. You know.

735
00:34:48,000 --> 00:34:52,759
Speaker 3: With that being said, I I'm just I'm just concerned that.

736
00:34:54,600 --> 00:34:57,640
Speaker 1: As interim I hope it's just the interroum, because we

737
00:34:57,719 --> 00:35:00,879
Speaker 1: need somebody in there that knows exactly what we go through,

738
00:35:01,000 --> 00:35:03,239
Speaker 1: what we're going to go through, that can go in

739
00:35:03,280 --> 00:35:06,160
Speaker 1: there and actually speak for the players, that's trying to

740
00:35:06,200 --> 00:35:09,040
Speaker 1: make it better for the players and not trying to

741
00:35:09,040 --> 00:35:11,960
Speaker 1: make it better for them to keep power, position and money.

742
00:35:12,520 --> 00:35:14,319
Speaker 3: That's all I was saying. No, I ain't gonna lie

743
00:35:14,320 --> 00:35:14,719
Speaker 3: to you, DBO.

744
00:35:14,800 --> 00:35:17,680
Speaker 2: You speaking facts, brother, you are because at the end

745
00:35:17,680 --> 00:35:20,640
Speaker 2: of the day, you're not coming to You're not looking

746
00:35:20,680 --> 00:35:22,800
Speaker 2: for any any particular. You don't want to gain anything.

747
00:35:22,840 --> 00:35:24,640
Speaker 2: You want to help people out, like you've been in

748
00:35:24,640 --> 00:35:27,160
Speaker 2: the situation. Like you said, you were undrafted, you ended

749
00:35:27,280 --> 00:35:30,600
Speaker 2: up being minimum, you had a contract, and now you're retired,

750
00:35:30,880 --> 00:35:33,960
Speaker 2: grown kids, everything, the whole situation. So you've seen it

751
00:35:34,040 --> 00:35:36,799
Speaker 2: on so many different levels that you're not trying to

752
00:35:37,000 --> 00:35:39,160
Speaker 2: act a certain way. No, you just know that it's

753
00:35:39,160 --> 00:35:41,319
Speaker 2: hard once you get retired and trying to figure some

754
00:35:41,320 --> 00:35:44,640
Speaker 2: stuff out of the situations like just how to how

755
00:35:44,680 --> 00:35:46,759
Speaker 2: to how to continue to keep going, and you just

756
00:35:46,800 --> 00:35:48,239
Speaker 2: want to look out for the dudes that are in

757
00:35:48,320 --> 00:35:50,879
Speaker 2: the league that know your time's gonna come.

758
00:35:51,000 --> 00:35:53,399
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. Like you, it's sweet once

759
00:35:53,440 --> 00:35:54,279
Speaker 3: it is, but once you.

760
00:35:54,239 --> 00:35:56,359
Speaker 2: Get out, you really need to have people that are

761
00:35:56,360 --> 00:35:58,759
Speaker 2: trying to protect you and not looking for a game,

762
00:35:59,000 --> 00:36:02,200
Speaker 2: not looking for theirselves. Literally, they you don't want it

763
00:36:02,239 --> 00:36:04,799
Speaker 2: for yourself. You're looking out for the next generation. So

764
00:36:05,000 --> 00:36:05,720
Speaker 2: I think that's.

765
00:36:05,600 --> 00:36:08,520
Speaker 1: Exactly I can't get nothing from it now, Like I'm done.

766
00:36:10,640 --> 00:36:12,360
Speaker 3: With you. What's the position that we're looking for you

767
00:36:12,440 --> 00:36:12,919
Speaker 3: to get? Debo.

768
00:36:13,040 --> 00:36:15,600
Speaker 1: We want, we want you to be president. We won't

769
00:36:15,640 --> 00:36:19,359
Speaker 1: need to be the executive director of the NFL P

770
00:36:19,480 --> 00:36:22,400
Speaker 1: A executive that's what that's what we're shooting for.

771
00:36:22,640 --> 00:36:26,880
Speaker 3: That is what we're going for. I'm done. Look it's done.

772
00:36:27,440 --> 00:36:30,800
Speaker 3: Executive Director of the NFL PAD because I ain't gonna.

773
00:36:30,600 --> 00:36:34,560
Speaker 2: Lie to you though I love when it matches. It's

774
00:36:34,560 --> 00:36:37,160
Speaker 2: not like we're trying to do something that doesn't make sense.

775
00:36:37,680 --> 00:36:41,080
Speaker 2: It makes perfect sense. You deserve to be the NFL

776
00:36:41,239 --> 00:36:44,040
Speaker 2: Executive Director of the NFL PA because you're going to

777
00:36:44,120 --> 00:36:46,120
Speaker 2: do what needs to be done for the players.

778
00:36:46,320 --> 00:36:48,040
Speaker 3: You're not trying to get over.

779
00:36:48,040 --> 00:36:49,920
Speaker 2: You're trying to look out and that's what the NFL

780
00:36:49,960 --> 00:36:52,320
Speaker 2: p A is supposed to do, look out for the players,

781
00:36:52,440 --> 00:36:53,000
Speaker 2: for the guys.

782
00:36:53,040 --> 00:36:56,440
Speaker 1: And it got I think when when when Jing you know,

783
00:36:56,640 --> 00:37:00,400
Speaker 1: passed and it was passed over or they vote for

784
00:37:01,040 --> 00:37:04,239
Speaker 1: for a d smiff, it didn't become that like, no

785
00:37:04,320 --> 00:37:06,320
Speaker 1: longer did we hear a stave up, it's going to

786
00:37:06,360 --> 00:37:08,200
Speaker 1: be a locked out and all that other stuff. Like

787
00:37:08,280 --> 00:37:10,839
Speaker 1: he was telling us that like in two thousand and seven,

788
00:37:10,920 --> 00:37:12,520
Speaker 1: Jean was telling us that in two thousand and seven, Yo,

789
00:37:12,600 --> 00:37:14,279
Speaker 1: they're gonna lock us out. You need you guys need

790
00:37:14,320 --> 00:37:15,799
Speaker 1: to save up and make sure you can make it

791
00:37:15,800 --> 00:37:18,040
Speaker 1: through a year. He got in there and all of

792
00:37:18,080 --> 00:37:21,080
Speaker 1: a sudden it was like, yeah, you know what happened

793
00:37:21,120 --> 00:37:23,960
Speaker 1: to what you know? Jeane was saying you know yo,

794
00:37:24,600 --> 00:37:28,440
Speaker 1: and then come the last hour they're like, oh, yeah,

795
00:37:28,520 --> 00:37:29,560
Speaker 1: they're going to lock you out.

796
00:37:29,640 --> 00:37:32,000
Speaker 3: We're going to try and help guys with this and that.

797
00:37:32,920 --> 00:37:36,719
Speaker 1: Dude, if guys had listened from the very beginning and

798
00:37:36,840 --> 00:37:40,120
Speaker 1: you continue to push that as you should have, instead

799
00:37:40,120 --> 00:37:42,600
Speaker 1: of it being a oh we could, they could lock

800
00:37:42,719 --> 00:37:45,960
Speaker 1: us out, so make sure you save something, then guys.

801
00:37:45,760 --> 00:37:47,200
Speaker 3: Would have been able to hold out.

802
00:37:47,239 --> 00:37:48,719
Speaker 1: But at the end of the day, even though the

803
00:37:48,800 --> 00:37:51,560
Speaker 1: guys that you know, we're able to do it, or

804
00:37:51,600 --> 00:37:54,759
Speaker 1: we wasn't able to do it, the message should have

805
00:37:54,760 --> 00:37:57,440
Speaker 1: been the same. Yeah, when it came down to it,

806
00:37:57,520 --> 00:37:59,960
Speaker 1: you should have been the guy as the executive director

807
00:38:00,239 --> 00:38:04,000
Speaker 1: to do the hard thing and make it to where

808
00:38:05,040 --> 00:38:07,839
Speaker 1: guys would get exactly what they wanted. Some people got

809
00:38:07,880 --> 00:38:12,080
Speaker 1: to learn hard lessons the hard way. Everybody was told

810
00:38:12,160 --> 00:38:15,839
Speaker 1: the same thing. So just because you know he told me, well,

811
00:38:15,880 --> 00:38:18,360
Speaker 1: you know, James, we had a certain percentage of guys

812
00:38:18,400 --> 00:38:21,120
Speaker 1: that just you know, they wanted to go back, they couldn't.

813
00:38:21,560 --> 00:38:23,800
Speaker 1: I'm like, dude, you're not there for a certain percentage

814
00:38:23,800 --> 00:38:26,239
Speaker 1: of guy. You're there for everybody. You're there for the

815
00:38:26,360 --> 00:38:30,279
Speaker 1: NFLP at the NFL PA that's all players, not the

816
00:38:30,320 --> 00:38:33,520
Speaker 1: ones that just didn't listen, like you're trying to make

817
00:38:33,520 --> 00:38:35,640
Speaker 1: it better. I'm not gonna let my son do something

818
00:38:36,400 --> 00:38:38,520
Speaker 1: that I know is not going to benefit him.

819
00:38:38,360 --> 00:38:41,480
Speaker 3: In his future just because he's he.

820
00:38:41,760 --> 00:38:45,319
Speaker 1: Wants to do it right now where right he wants

821
00:38:45,360 --> 00:38:48,239
Speaker 1: something for the short term, you know, like it just

822
00:38:48,640 --> 00:38:50,319
Speaker 1: it just it just didn't make sense, man.

823
00:38:50,360 --> 00:38:55,359
Speaker 3: And you know you go that long.

824
00:38:57,880 --> 00:39:01,560
Speaker 1: Just to come out with a deal that you know,

825
00:39:01,920 --> 00:39:06,719
Speaker 1: it wasn't even worth going through the fight of it,

826
00:39:06,920 --> 00:39:09,399
Speaker 1: Like it wasn't even a fight when it came out

827
00:39:09,520 --> 00:39:16,319
Speaker 1: to Yeah, So I guess, uh, I guess Davanta Adams. Yeah.

828
00:39:16,880 --> 00:39:21,640
Speaker 1: When he was to the Jets last year, he asked

829
00:39:21,640 --> 00:39:28,320
Speaker 1: the rookie receiver Malachi, I guess for seventeen. He offered

830
00:39:28,400 --> 00:39:33,359
Speaker 1: him seventeen thousand exchange for number seventeen. According to Davonte Man,

831
00:39:34,840 --> 00:39:39,960
Speaker 1: he's total. He told him he need a million. God,

832
00:39:41,320 --> 00:39:48,040
Speaker 1: a million. He said, hey, man, it's good to have you,

833
00:39:48,520 --> 00:39:50,680
Speaker 1: happy to have you on the squad, but I need

834
00:39:50,719 --> 00:39:51,080
Speaker 1: a million.

835
00:39:51,120 --> 00:39:53,319
Speaker 3: I'm go need a whole mil ticket for that one.

836
00:39:54,000 --> 00:39:57,000
Speaker 3: But I'm gonna need a million. Who is who is?

837
00:39:57,080 --> 00:39:58,880
Speaker 3: Who is that? Cory Malachi?

838
00:39:58,920 --> 00:39:59,120
Speaker 1: Court.

839
00:39:59,120 --> 00:39:59,560
Speaker 3: Who is that?

840
00:40:01,120 --> 00:40:02,520
Speaker 1: I don't know.

841
00:40:04,320 --> 00:40:05,120
Speaker 3: I'm trying to think.

842
00:40:05,320 --> 00:40:07,120
Speaker 2: Look, I got a look br up, but I don't

843
00:40:07,560 --> 00:40:08,799
Speaker 2: for acting for a million.

844
00:40:08,520 --> 00:40:11,960
Speaker 1: As wild, that's out of control. For a millie is crazy.

845
00:40:12,040 --> 00:40:13,799
Speaker 2: I had to pay when I was in when I

846
00:40:13,840 --> 00:40:16,759
Speaker 2: was in the Browns, when I first got there, it

847
00:40:16,880 --> 00:40:20,120
Speaker 2: threw me and the craziest, thankiest number you could ever imagine.

848
00:40:20,120 --> 00:40:22,839
Speaker 2: I had to I was in number forty, and then

849
00:40:22,880 --> 00:40:25,040
Speaker 2: I had to get that thing off to Peyton Hillis

850
00:40:25,120 --> 00:40:30,040
Speaker 2: and I bought number twenty three for twenty bands.

851
00:40:31,200 --> 00:40:33,400
Speaker 3: As a rookie, I bought that joint for twenty bands.

852
00:40:33,400 --> 00:40:36,760
Speaker 2: And then when I came to Pittsburgh, my man Mike Mitchell,

853
00:40:36,760 --> 00:40:39,240
Speaker 2: shout out, Mike Mitchell, I tried to buy.

854
00:40:39,080 --> 00:40:42,680
Speaker 3: Twenty three off Mike Mitchell, Right, what are you saying?

855
00:40:42,680 --> 00:40:44,680
Speaker 3: What do you say? Oh do you want to know? Oh?

856
00:40:44,719 --> 00:40:45,239
Speaker 1: I got a star?

857
00:40:45,360 --> 00:40:47,640
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, So first I tried to pop off boom.

858
00:40:47,760 --> 00:40:51,160
Speaker 2: I got twenty bands for you, Mike, not rocket laugh

859
00:40:51,280 --> 00:40:54,319
Speaker 2: at that, laughing for twenty all right, best question, I.

860
00:40:54,280 --> 00:40:57,239
Speaker 1: Got fifty for you. Mike laughed at that.

861
00:40:58,560 --> 00:41:00,040
Speaker 3: I got seventy five for you.

862
00:41:00,200 --> 00:41:05,520
Speaker 2: Mike laughed at that last thing, Mike, because you know

863
00:41:05,600 --> 00:41:08,280
Speaker 2: he gotta buy another number. We got robbed G there

864
00:41:08,560 --> 00:41:13,000
Speaker 2: twenty one. I say, my God, got hundred bands for you.

865
00:41:13,080 --> 00:41:13,360
Speaker 1: Mike.

866
00:41:15,440 --> 00:41:17,960
Speaker 2: He's like, nah, I got my foundation and everything under

867
00:41:18,000 --> 00:41:21,080
Speaker 2: my under my jersey under two three. I said, oh, man,

868
00:41:21,120 --> 00:41:23,600
Speaker 2: well I can't do nothing for you then, so then

869
00:41:23,640 --> 00:41:25,839
Speaker 2: Mike kept the twenty three. That's why my rookie year

870
00:41:25,880 --> 00:41:28,400
Speaker 2: I had twenty one ended up buying it off rob G.

871
00:41:28,560 --> 00:41:29,360
Speaker 3: For the twenty bands.

872
00:41:29,440 --> 00:41:32,879
Speaker 1: Rob G was geechee. So question you know what I'm saying.

873
00:41:32,880 --> 00:41:35,399
Speaker 3: He went to do question nothing like, nothing happened. Oh

874
00:41:35,480 --> 00:41:36,600
Speaker 3: he was ecstatic.

875
00:41:36,920 --> 00:41:40,120
Speaker 2: Took that twenty so fast. Rob G great man loved

876
00:41:40,200 --> 00:41:42,239
Speaker 2: rob G. So now I was in the twenty one.

877
00:41:42,239 --> 00:41:44,319
Speaker 2: And then next year they ended up letting go my

878
00:41:44,360 --> 00:41:46,000
Speaker 2: man Mike Mitchell, and then I got.

879
00:41:45,960 --> 00:41:48,359
Speaker 3: Twenty three for free. That was the crazy part.

880
00:41:49,320 --> 00:41:51,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, out of I ain't gonna I ain't gonna lie.

881
00:41:51,640 --> 00:41:55,399
Speaker 1: I mighta ooh. Somebody offered me a b I tried

882
00:41:55,400 --> 00:41:57,880
Speaker 1: to start off ninety. I laughed at me so hard,

883
00:41:57,960 --> 00:42:00,680
Speaker 1: so then I just tried to go fifty. I ain't

884
00:42:00,719 --> 00:42:02,680
Speaker 1: gonna lie to live too. But once you got to go,

885
00:42:03,280 --> 00:42:05,000
Speaker 1: I would have been like, man, look Mike, I don't

886
00:42:05,040 --> 00:42:06,920
Speaker 1: look because he was like, man, I'm just the number.

887
00:42:07,000 --> 00:42:08,320
Speaker 3: I don't have nothing for you.

888
00:42:08,440 --> 00:42:10,200
Speaker 2: I'm gonna give you this one hundred thousand dollars and

889
00:42:10,239 --> 00:42:11,560
Speaker 2: you're gonna give me number twenty three.

890
00:42:11,760 --> 00:42:17,600
Speaker 1: He was asked, Ah, cash in your hand, one hundred

891
00:42:17,600 --> 00:42:19,440
Speaker 1: thousand American current.

892
00:42:19,200 --> 00:42:20,080
Speaker 3: Ass in your hand?

893
00:42:21,320 --> 00:42:26,839
Speaker 1: Five dollars? Hey, he said, I no.

894
00:42:27,120 --> 00:42:27,759
Speaker 3: I know.

895
00:42:28,040 --> 00:42:29,960
Speaker 2: After that, I just I'm going number twenty one.

896
00:42:31,400 --> 00:42:31,760
Speaker 1: Yeah.

897
00:42:31,840 --> 00:42:36,000
Speaker 3: So I went to uh, what was it, New England

898
00:42:37,080 --> 00:42:37,440
Speaker 3: and it was a.

899
00:42:37,480 --> 00:42:40,400
Speaker 1: Dude that had ninety two, and I'm like, yo, let me,

900
00:42:40,640 --> 00:42:41,759
Speaker 1: you know, let me get ninety two.

901
00:42:41,760 --> 00:42:42,319
Speaker 3: What you want for?

902
00:42:42,680 --> 00:42:46,080
Speaker 1: Dude. I don't even remember what his name was, but

903
00:42:46,360 --> 00:42:48,480
Speaker 1: he blessed you. Boy. You know what he said? What

904
00:42:48,640 --> 00:42:51,160
Speaker 1: he's saying, three grand.

905
00:42:52,719 --> 00:42:55,279
Speaker 3: Oh, you need to send him a Christmas card. I

906
00:42:55,280 --> 00:42:56,359
Speaker 3: can't remember his name.

907
00:42:56,440 --> 00:42:59,080
Speaker 4: Man, we gotta find whoever was ninety two when you

908
00:42:59,120 --> 00:43:00,400
Speaker 4: went there?

909
00:43:01,120 --> 00:43:02,160
Speaker 3: Because I love him.

910
00:43:02,280 --> 00:43:03,839
Speaker 1: I ain't gonna lie. I ain't gonna lie to you.

911
00:43:04,040 --> 00:43:05,480
Speaker 1: I wasn't gonna pay much.

912
00:43:06,000 --> 00:43:08,799
Speaker 2: For he said right around the number you were like

913
00:43:09,360 --> 00:43:11,600
Speaker 2: that three was cool though, that three bands he was liked.

914
00:43:12,040 --> 00:43:15,200
Speaker 1: He said, depend if it depends on what I wasn't

915
00:43:15,200 --> 00:43:17,160
Speaker 1: gonna be like, no, man, what I'm here for like

916
00:43:17,200 --> 00:43:21,600
Speaker 1: two months? Bro? You like he was like, yeah, he's

917
00:43:21,640 --> 00:43:25,319
Speaker 1: like three. I'm like, say, lest here cash out? Oh

918
00:43:25,400 --> 00:43:32,640
Speaker 1: for shake casht you three bands? Dang, no question, dude. Yeah,

919
00:43:32,680 --> 00:43:35,000
Speaker 1: but I ain't gonna lie. He showed up. I thought

920
00:43:35,040 --> 00:43:36,800
Speaker 1: I thought he was. I thought he was gonna do something.

921
00:43:37,000 --> 00:43:39,800
Speaker 3: You know. So I'm not in control. Oh my goodnis,

922
00:43:39,840 --> 00:43:43,320
Speaker 3: No bo, I'm happy for your story. Yeah. No, yeah,

923
00:43:43,400 --> 00:43:45,520
Speaker 3: I'm out forty. I'm out forty for two numbers.

924
00:43:45,560 --> 00:43:45,680
Speaker 1: Here.

925
00:43:45,760 --> 00:43:46,719
Speaker 3: Here's the crazy thing.

926
00:43:46,760 --> 00:43:50,440
Speaker 1: So when I unretired, I came back and it was

927
00:43:50,480 --> 00:43:54,080
Speaker 1: a guy that I believe he had ninety two, but

928
00:43:54,200 --> 00:43:58,080
Speaker 1: he hadn't made like, uh like active or whatever it was,

929
00:43:58,200 --> 00:44:02,680
Speaker 1: so they basically just, you know, just got it from him. However,

930
00:44:03,080 --> 00:44:06,800
Speaker 1: however that went, if he was actually active, I wouldn't

931
00:44:06,800 --> 00:44:09,680
Speaker 1: have been able to switch into the number like when

932
00:44:09,719 --> 00:44:12,719
Speaker 1: I came in, so because of the timing of the

933
00:44:12,760 --> 00:44:15,399
Speaker 1: season when it started, So if he had actually got

934
00:44:15,480 --> 00:44:18,680
Speaker 1: active onto the field, he would have able to hold

935
00:44:18,719 --> 00:44:22,359
Speaker 1: onto the number. Yeah, that's it worked out perfectly. Oh yeah, dude,

936
00:44:22,400 --> 00:44:26,000
Speaker 1: that that worked out to no end. Bro. Yeah, So

937
00:44:27,040 --> 00:44:30,279
Speaker 1: my guy RC says that Tom Brady was not a

938
00:44:30,480 --> 00:44:32,680
Speaker 1: generational talent a quarterback.

939
00:44:33,680 --> 00:44:35,919
Speaker 3: This is this can be right? Is this real?

940
00:44:36,840 --> 00:44:39,200
Speaker 1: He said? I think I think John Alway was a

941
00:44:39,239 --> 00:44:42,680
Speaker 1: generational talent. I think Patrick Mahome is a generational talent.

942
00:44:42,719 --> 00:44:46,400
Speaker 1: I don't think Tom Brady. I don't think Drew Brees,

943
00:44:46,719 --> 00:44:51,640
Speaker 1: I don't think Peyton Manning or generational talents.

944
00:44:53,040 --> 00:44:58,800
Speaker 3: I didn't hear this. He said this on TV. I didn't.

945
00:45:00,120 --> 00:45:06,000
Speaker 1: That's what it's saying that that was said. I don't, huh.

946
00:45:09,160 --> 00:45:11,560
Speaker 3: It's I think does he take to see Drew Brees

947
00:45:11,680 --> 00:45:12,920
Speaker 3: but not like.

948
00:45:14,480 --> 00:45:16,880
Speaker 2: I think what he's saying, like, does he have to

949
00:45:16,920 --> 00:45:19,560
Speaker 2: see athleticism to be a generational I.

950
00:45:19,520 --> 00:45:21,719
Speaker 1: Don't know, man, I'm not. I'm not. I'm not.

951
00:45:21,840 --> 00:45:22,800
Speaker 3: I'm not gonna run.

952
00:45:22,640 --> 00:45:25,000
Speaker 1: With this one right here, to me honest with you,

953
00:45:25,040 --> 00:45:29,360
Speaker 1: because I just absolutely do not understand the whole concept

954
00:45:29,400 --> 00:45:29,680
Speaker 1: of it.

955
00:45:30,640 --> 00:45:32,200
Speaker 2: I'm trying to look like I'm trying to say she

956
00:45:32,320 --> 00:45:35,640
Speaker 2: said to me, Yeah, I'm trying to find out how

957
00:45:36,480 --> 00:45:38,640
Speaker 2: it could only be athletically.

958
00:45:40,520 --> 00:45:44,120
Speaker 1: Athletically if I'm dude, if I'm talking about the position

959
00:45:44,160 --> 00:45:47,440
Speaker 1: of quarterback and I'm like, all the intangibles of what

960
00:45:47,560 --> 00:45:50,360
Speaker 1: I need as a quarterback. I have a line to

961
00:45:50,480 --> 00:45:54,240
Speaker 1: protect him. I have a running game to assist him,

962
00:45:54,680 --> 00:45:56,680
Speaker 1: my quarterback. I'm not gonna lie to you. It's gonna

963
00:45:56,680 --> 00:45:57,440
Speaker 1: be Tom Brady.

964
00:45:57,920 --> 00:46:02,040
Speaker 3: He's gonna walk you down the field and win. Yeah,

965
00:46:02,160 --> 00:46:02,800
Speaker 3: like he's.

966
00:46:02,640 --> 00:46:06,120
Speaker 1: Gonna see it, get to it, you know, and did

967
00:46:06,160 --> 00:46:08,480
Speaker 1: it again in Tampa oh forty.

968
00:46:11,120 --> 00:46:12,359
Speaker 3: I'm like, I just.

969
00:46:13,840 --> 00:46:14,319
Speaker 1: I don't know.

970
00:46:14,760 --> 00:46:17,239
Speaker 3: I don't know why I even say that about Tom.

971
00:46:17,560 --> 00:46:21,040
Speaker 3: I have no clue. Brother, yep, I let that one go.

972
00:46:22,400 --> 00:46:25,839
Speaker 1: Cooper. He told I, can I can relate to this?

973
00:46:25,880 --> 00:46:27,560
Speaker 1: I ain't gonnan lie to you. I could relate to this.

974
00:46:28,040 --> 00:46:31,640
Speaker 1: So Mari Cooper informed a team that he no longer

975
00:46:31,680 --> 00:46:34,000
Speaker 1: has a desire to play and intends to retire. Right,

976
00:46:34,760 --> 00:46:37,520
Speaker 1: but what do you what do you think of that?

977
00:46:37,640 --> 00:46:39,040
Speaker 1: Didn't he just signed like a week ago?

978
00:46:39,120 --> 00:46:41,520
Speaker 3: Right? I don't Did he just sign and he just

979
00:46:41,560 --> 00:46:45,520
Speaker 3: retired with with the Raiders?

980
00:46:45,560 --> 00:46:45,719
Speaker 1: Right?

981
00:46:46,480 --> 00:46:48,840
Speaker 3: I believe it was went back to.

982
00:46:50,520 --> 00:46:51,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, I want to say it.

983
00:46:51,320 --> 00:46:51,839
Speaker 3: Was a week ago.

984
00:46:52,120 --> 00:46:55,160
Speaker 2: He had to be there, so like, yeah, I mean,

985
00:46:55,239 --> 00:46:56,680
Speaker 2: you know what it is the bo If.

986
00:46:56,560 --> 00:46:57,640
Speaker 1: He just signed a week.

987
00:46:57,480 --> 00:46:59,880
Speaker 2: Ago, that means he didn't do training camp, didn't do

988
00:47:00,040 --> 00:47:02,960
Speaker 2: none of that. So he went back, got into the

989
00:47:03,000 --> 00:47:07,799
Speaker 2: grind and really was like, ah, you know, like I don't,

990
00:47:07,840 --> 00:47:10,160
Speaker 2: I don't. I don't love it. It's about to be

991
00:47:10,160 --> 00:47:12,960
Speaker 2: a whole season to this, you know. And I mean

992
00:47:13,320 --> 00:47:14,799
Speaker 2: he's played ten years of Mark Coop.

993
00:47:14,800 --> 00:47:16,040
Speaker 3: At the end of the day, got it. I mean

994
00:47:16,080 --> 00:47:17,400
Speaker 3: he made some money, you know.

995
00:47:17,520 --> 00:47:19,279
Speaker 2: And at the end of the day, nobody, they're not

996
00:47:19,280 --> 00:47:21,919
Speaker 2: getting any slower, They're not getting any weaker out there.

997
00:47:22,120 --> 00:47:24,080
Speaker 3: These dudes are out that jone trying.

998
00:47:23,840 --> 00:47:24,480
Speaker 1: To get it.

999
00:47:24,719 --> 00:47:28,560
Speaker 2: Everybody every year new NFL season trying the NFL is

1000
00:47:28,600 --> 00:47:30,759
Speaker 2: not a game. It's not nowhere you just oh yeah,

1001
00:47:30,800 --> 00:47:32,640
Speaker 2: I'm just jumping on there and just go play with

1002
00:47:32,680 --> 00:47:35,560
Speaker 2: these dude. No, you're gonna get hurt, You're gonna get

1003
00:47:35,600 --> 00:47:38,080
Speaker 2: smacked out there. They're not playing you know what I'm saying, Like,

1004
00:47:38,120 --> 00:47:39,680
Speaker 2: it's not a game. Ain't playing no game.

1005
00:47:39,880 --> 00:47:42,320
Speaker 3: No, you don't just go play football NFL football.

1006
00:47:42,360 --> 00:47:44,520
Speaker 2: No, that's a business decision when you go out that

1007
00:47:44,600 --> 00:47:47,160
Speaker 2: joint that you're making with your body, less your life.

1008
00:47:48,360 --> 00:47:53,600
Speaker 1: It's a one hundred percent business decision. But it's also

1009
00:47:53,719 --> 00:47:56,719
Speaker 1: well for me. When I came back and unretired, I

1010
00:47:56,840 --> 00:47:57,440
Speaker 1: was done.

1011
00:47:57,680 --> 00:47:58,480
Speaker 3: I was good bro.

1012
00:47:59,200 --> 00:48:03,319
Speaker 1: And I had you know, I had keys will call me.

1013
00:48:03,360 --> 00:48:06,120
Speaker 1: It's like, you know, four thirty in the morning. I'm

1014
00:48:06,120 --> 00:48:08,279
Speaker 1: getting up, get ready to go work out. I get

1015
00:48:08,280 --> 00:48:10,719
Speaker 1: a call. He's like, hey, you're ready to come back.

1016
00:48:10,760 --> 00:48:12,839
Speaker 1: I'm like, no, what you're talking about?

1017
00:48:12,920 --> 00:48:14,960
Speaker 3: Man? We got this down. We got that down.

1018
00:48:15,000 --> 00:48:17,239
Speaker 1: I'm like, I don't, hey, brother, I don't don't know

1019
00:48:17,280 --> 00:48:19,000
Speaker 1: what's talking about. I ain't coming back. It's you know,

1020
00:48:19,000 --> 00:48:22,080
Speaker 1: I'm done by. And then you know, I got a

1021
00:48:22,120 --> 00:48:27,200
Speaker 1: call from Troy and Troy's like, yo, we we're gonna

1022
00:48:27,239 --> 00:48:28,759
Speaker 1: need you to come back. And da da da da

1023
00:48:28,800 --> 00:48:31,319
Speaker 1: da da da da. I'm like, I'm like, Troy, listen, brother,

1024
00:48:31,960 --> 00:48:32,960
Speaker 1: I'm not coming back.

1025
00:48:33,000 --> 00:48:35,920
Speaker 3: I'm good, bro. I'm happy. I'm out here living life.

1026
00:48:36,000 --> 00:48:39,400
Speaker 1: You know, I'm feeling good, bro. And then I called me.

1027
00:48:39,480 --> 00:48:41,399
Speaker 1: He fresh out of surgery. He just broke his forearm

1028
00:48:42,920 --> 00:48:45,080
Speaker 1: and uh, He's like, bro, we need you ba. I say,

1029
00:48:45,080 --> 00:48:47,120
Speaker 1: all right, hold up, so I tell you, I tell

1030
00:48:47,120 --> 00:48:49,040
Speaker 1: you all what I said. A good feeling will be wanted. Brother,

1031
00:48:49,160 --> 00:48:51,719
Speaker 1: you got the home he's hitting you well, well, you

1032
00:48:51,760 --> 00:48:53,760
Speaker 1: know I played so long with them, dude, that's my brothers.

1033
00:48:53,800 --> 00:48:55,720
Speaker 3: You know, my kids call them Uncle, that's uncles.

1034
00:48:55,760 --> 00:48:59,319
Speaker 1: Them uncles, that's Uncle Troy, That's that's uncle Keys. Like

1035
00:48:59,520 --> 00:49:01,879
Speaker 1: those are the those are there, they're you know, their

1036
00:49:02,239 --> 00:49:04,759
Speaker 1: their own. So I'm like, you know what, I don't

1037
00:49:04,760 --> 00:49:06,560
Speaker 1: want to feel like I'm letting my brothers down. I said,

1038
00:49:06,600 --> 00:49:10,160
Speaker 1: but if my kids say no, bro, that's gonna be it.

1039
00:49:10,200 --> 00:49:12,920
Speaker 1: I'm not. I'm not doing it. So I'm like, I'm

1040
00:49:12,960 --> 00:49:15,440
Speaker 1: gonna call my kids. I'm gonna see what they say,

1041
00:49:15,880 --> 00:49:18,560
Speaker 1: and I'm like, if they say no, that's it. If

1042
00:49:18,560 --> 00:49:21,080
Speaker 1: they say yeah, then you know, I do it. And

1043
00:49:21,080 --> 00:49:23,279
Speaker 1: that was after that already you know, spent that year

1044
00:49:23,280 --> 00:49:25,719
Speaker 1: in Cincinnati, and I really, you know, I really just

1045
00:49:25,760 --> 00:49:29,080
Speaker 1: didn't want to be away. So I called my kids.

1046
00:49:29,120 --> 00:49:33,080
Speaker 1: I'm like, yo, hey, I actually had them on FaceTime

1047
00:49:33,280 --> 00:49:36,640
Speaker 1: make sure it was recorded. I had to show proof

1048
00:49:37,239 --> 00:49:40,160
Speaker 1: when they said no, which I just do that say no, right,

1049
00:49:40,200 --> 00:49:44,400
Speaker 1: you know what. I'm like, Hey, you know that it

1050
00:49:44,480 --> 00:49:47,440
Speaker 1: got a chance to you know, come back and play football.

1051
00:49:48,360 --> 00:49:50,319
Speaker 1: So you guys would have to wait, you know, to

1052
00:49:50,360 --> 00:49:53,160
Speaker 1: get into your contact football. You still be doing doing

1053
00:49:53,160 --> 00:49:57,280
Speaker 1: flag all that whatever. It was like, okay, but where

1054
00:49:57,280 --> 00:49:58,839
Speaker 1: where you know where it's gonna be. I'm like it's

1055
00:49:58,840 --> 00:50:01,640
Speaker 1: in Pittsburgh. It's cool. Yeah, yeah, you could do that.

1056
00:50:01,719 --> 00:50:05,080
Speaker 3: I'm like, damn they hype. They did not do it.

1057
00:50:05,120 --> 00:50:08,400
Speaker 1: So get into fast forward into that first week where

1058
00:50:08,400 --> 00:50:09,839
Speaker 1: Amar is at right now.

1059
00:50:11,120 --> 00:50:11,600
Speaker 3: Dude.

1060
00:50:13,160 --> 00:50:16,720
Speaker 1: That first week, I was supposed to get like fifteen steps,

1061
00:50:16,719 --> 00:50:19,319
Speaker 1: so I'm preparing myself. But as I'm going through that

1062
00:50:19,400 --> 00:50:24,160
Speaker 1: week of practice, brou the second day, I come in

1063
00:50:24,840 --> 00:50:26,279
Speaker 1: you know, the sword and is setting in for the

1064
00:50:26,320 --> 00:50:26,759
Speaker 1: next day.

1065
00:50:26,760 --> 00:50:31,160
Speaker 3: But I don't really set in till that Thursday. Dude.

1066
00:50:32,080 --> 00:50:35,200
Speaker 1: If it wasn't for the fact that my daddy told me,

1067
00:50:35,280 --> 00:50:39,799
Speaker 1: you start, you finish what you start, I was gonna

1068
00:50:39,840 --> 00:50:43,239
Speaker 1: give them whatever they wanted to let me get up

1069
00:50:43,280 --> 00:50:43,759
Speaker 1: out of there.

1070
00:50:44,080 --> 00:50:47,480
Speaker 3: Like my body was hurting so bad, dude, and.

1071
00:50:47,440 --> 00:50:50,720
Speaker 1: I was only out of it for like an off

1072
00:50:50,760 --> 00:50:53,719
Speaker 1: season and like maybe the first two three weeks of

1073
00:50:53,800 --> 00:50:59,319
Speaker 1: the season. Dude, bruh. You talking about taking anything I

1074
00:50:59,360 --> 00:51:02,399
Speaker 1: could to try and kill the pain, trying to knock

1075
00:51:02,480 --> 00:51:06,719
Speaker 1: down the inflammation, the swelling, laying in like I was

1076
00:51:06,760 --> 00:51:09,200
Speaker 1: cold plunging before cold pluning was cool. But I was

1077
00:51:09,239 --> 00:51:12,879
Speaker 1: to my deck up in that thing, bruh, Like I'm

1078
00:51:12,960 --> 00:51:17,320
Speaker 1: just and I'm I'm sitting there I'm sitting at my hocker.

1079
00:51:17,719 --> 00:51:19,759
Speaker 1: And so we go through the week, we end up

1080
00:51:19,800 --> 00:51:23,799
Speaker 1: playing Tampa and UH coach t comes through the locker room.

1081
00:51:23,880 --> 00:51:26,319
Speaker 1: So now you know, I'm into the second week. I'm

1082
00:51:26,320 --> 00:51:29,840
Speaker 1: feeling better. I'm feeling good, and he's like, how you feeling.

1083
00:51:30,360 --> 00:51:31,200
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, I'm.

1084
00:51:31,080 --> 00:51:31,919
Speaker 3: Good now, he said.

1085
00:51:32,000 --> 00:51:34,439
Speaker 1: Yeah, he said, I was gonna come over and talk

1086
00:51:34,480 --> 00:51:37,400
Speaker 1: to you on Thursday, he said, but it looked like

1087
00:51:37,400 --> 00:51:39,279
Speaker 1: you was making decisions in your head and I didn't

1088
00:51:39,280 --> 00:51:41,000
Speaker 1: want to give you an opportunity to step out of this.

1089
00:51:43,680 --> 00:51:44,959
Speaker 1: It was all over your eyes.

1090
00:51:45,239 --> 00:51:48,600
Speaker 3: It was all over my face, man, I guess he man.

1091
00:51:49,640 --> 00:51:52,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, So when you get into that, especially with him

1092
00:51:52,560 --> 00:51:54,840
Speaker 1: being out of it just signing that week, I totally

1093
00:51:54,880 --> 00:51:57,600
Speaker 1: understand what he's talking about. I could see how it

1094
00:51:57,640 --> 00:52:00,640
Speaker 1: could happen because, like I said, I was in that position,

1095
00:52:01,160 --> 00:52:04,720
Speaker 1: and that is not an easy position to be, especially

1096
00:52:04,719 --> 00:52:07,040
Speaker 1: as you get older. Man, You like, I got this

1097
00:52:07,120 --> 00:52:09,200
Speaker 1: sitting in the bank. Man, do I really want to

1098
00:52:09,239 --> 00:52:14,040
Speaker 1: do this? You know? And for me I continue because

1099
00:52:14,080 --> 00:52:15,880
Speaker 1: you know, your body hardened back up to it, and

1100
00:52:15,880 --> 00:52:18,000
Speaker 1: then I, like you said, I fell back and you know,

1101
00:52:18,040 --> 00:52:19,839
Speaker 1: in love with the process, the game and all that

1102
00:52:19,960 --> 00:52:23,440
Speaker 1: ended up signing you know, a couple more years, and

1103
00:52:23,560 --> 00:52:27,319
Speaker 1: even when I went to New England. Dude, I could

1104
00:52:27,320 --> 00:52:30,360
Speaker 1: have went back to New England. And Bill was like, uh,

1105
00:52:30,480 --> 00:52:32,719
Speaker 1: I want to bring you back, but I want to

1106
00:52:32,760 --> 00:52:36,000
Speaker 1: wait till after the draft so that I don't tell

1107
00:52:36,040 --> 00:52:37,759
Speaker 1: you something that's not true. I want to I'm going

1108
00:52:37,840 --> 00:52:39,600
Speaker 1: to be able to tell you exactly what your role

1109
00:52:39,680 --> 00:52:41,719
Speaker 1: is going to be, so you know, I want to

1110
00:52:41,760 --> 00:52:43,680
Speaker 1: sign you after the draft, and that way, you know

1111
00:52:43,840 --> 00:52:45,520
Speaker 1: I won't tell you anything that's not true.

1112
00:52:45,520 --> 00:52:47,240
Speaker 3: We can go from there. I'm like, all right, cool.

1113
00:52:47,760 --> 00:52:50,400
Speaker 1: And the more I sat back, I'm like, dude, I

1114
00:52:50,480 --> 00:52:53,120
Speaker 1: just don't want to be away from home again. And

1115
00:52:53,880 --> 00:52:56,279
Speaker 1: it's just it's just not something I want to do.

1116
00:52:56,440 --> 00:52:57,759
Speaker 1: And I was like, you know what, I got to

1117
00:52:57,800 --> 00:53:00,279
Speaker 1: retire because if he offers it to me, I know

1118
00:53:00,320 --> 00:53:01,919
Speaker 1: I'm going to take it because I love the game.

1119
00:53:01,960 --> 00:53:02,919
Speaker 3: I want to play a game.

1120
00:53:03,560 --> 00:53:05,240
Speaker 1: And I was like, yeah, I got to retire before

1121
00:53:05,280 --> 00:53:07,960
Speaker 1: that that happens, because once I started, I gotta finish.

1122
00:53:08,120 --> 00:53:08,640
Speaker 3: No for sure.

1123
00:53:08,840 --> 00:53:11,359
Speaker 1: Man, that's good way, debo that you can even do that.

1124
00:53:11,520 --> 00:53:13,920
Speaker 2: Your body, the way that you work out, the way

1125
00:53:13,920 --> 00:53:15,279
Speaker 2: that you maintain yourself though.

1126
00:53:15,520 --> 00:53:16,520
Speaker 1: It's a true testament.

1127
00:53:16,560 --> 00:53:19,920
Speaker 2: I ain't gonna lie because once I stopped and advertise,

1128
00:53:20,400 --> 00:53:23,040
Speaker 2: I stopped, like the treatment, just to take care of

1129
00:53:23,040 --> 00:53:24,680
Speaker 2: my body to be able to stay a lead.

1130
00:53:24,800 --> 00:53:26,760
Speaker 3: Like there's no off season when you're in the NFL.

1131
00:53:27,040 --> 00:53:29,560
Speaker 2: So when you stop for real and like stop working out,

1132
00:53:29,560 --> 00:53:32,520
Speaker 2: stop getting that massage, and stop getting that treatment.

1133
00:53:32,880 --> 00:53:34,440
Speaker 3: Then I did it for a.

1134
00:53:34,480 --> 00:53:36,480
Speaker 2: Year and then once once that happened, then my body

1135
00:53:36,560 --> 00:53:38,279
Speaker 2: was kind of I was out the way. But I

1136
00:53:38,280 --> 00:53:41,120
Speaker 2: can tell you still lifting up the whole gym, so

1137
00:53:41,200 --> 00:53:43,040
Speaker 2: I could tell you still staying in shape.

1138
00:53:45,080 --> 00:53:47,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, I ain't lifting up the whole gym.

1139
00:53:47,600 --> 00:53:49,680
Speaker 1: I'm just I'm still taking care of my body though

1140
00:53:49,719 --> 00:53:52,400
Speaker 1: I'm just not doing it, you know, to the level

1141
00:53:52,480 --> 00:53:56,080
Speaker 1: that I was when I was playing. I'm not you know,

1142
00:53:56,160 --> 00:53:58,359
Speaker 1: I'm not seeing a chiropractice twice a week. I'm not

1143
00:53:58,440 --> 00:54:02,520
Speaker 1: seeing that, you know, my dog and you know for IVS.

1144
00:54:02,200 --> 00:54:03,600
Speaker 3: And all that stuff. Twice a week.

1145
00:54:03,680 --> 00:54:07,560
Speaker 1: I'm doing you know, acupunctural dry needling every week.

1146
00:54:07,600 --> 00:54:07,960
Speaker 3: All that.

1147
00:54:08,080 --> 00:54:10,839
Speaker 1: You know, I'm doing normal massage maybe once a week,

1148
00:54:10,880 --> 00:54:14,440
Speaker 1: some acupuncture you know a week, and I'll see my cairo,

1149
00:54:14,840 --> 00:54:16,360
Speaker 1: you know, maybe it depends on how I feel, to

1150
00:54:16,400 --> 00:54:20,160
Speaker 1: be honest with you, you know, it may be every you know, month,

1151
00:54:20,280 --> 00:54:21,120
Speaker 1: every couple of months.

1152
00:54:21,120 --> 00:54:23,839
Speaker 3: It just really it just really depends on how then

1153
00:54:23,840 --> 00:54:26,200
Speaker 3: are you working out, Debo. That's what I need to know.

1154
00:54:27,520 --> 00:54:29,960
Speaker 1: Five to six days a week, well, five or seven.

1155
00:54:29,800 --> 00:54:31,919
Speaker 3: Days a week, okay, okay, it just.

1156
00:54:32,040 --> 00:54:36,879
Speaker 1: Yeah, it just depends actual weightlifting. Though it's only five

1157
00:54:36,920 --> 00:54:38,640
Speaker 1: days a week. I cut that down. It used to

1158
00:54:38,719 --> 00:54:42,640
Speaker 1: be six. So I'm Monday through Friday with weights and

1159
00:54:42,800 --> 00:54:47,520
Speaker 1: you know, uh, cardio whatever it may be, you know,

1160
00:54:47,680 --> 00:54:51,080
Speaker 1: through the uh six days.

1161
00:54:50,239 --> 00:54:51,960
Speaker 2: I gotta get change the gym with my dad. And

1162
00:54:52,320 --> 00:54:53,840
Speaker 2: my dad was like, I would love to get in

1163
00:54:53,880 --> 00:54:56,359
Speaker 2: the gym with Debo. They watch you probably watched Shout

1164
00:54:56,360 --> 00:54:59,560
Speaker 2: Out Pops with that one Pops Debo. I'm definitely y'all

1165
00:54:59,600 --> 00:55:01,239
Speaker 2: in the gym together and I'm going to film the

1166
00:55:01,320 --> 00:55:01,600
Speaker 2: work out.

1167
00:55:01,640 --> 00:55:02,480
Speaker 1: It's gonna be amazing.

1168
00:55:03,000 --> 00:55:04,719
Speaker 3: Let's get it. I know you got one right there.

1169
00:55:04,760 --> 00:55:06,440
Speaker 3: I know you got a gym there. You know at

1170
00:55:06,440 --> 00:55:06,759
Speaker 3: the gym.

1171
00:55:06,800 --> 00:55:09,120
Speaker 1: Man hey, they say they say that boxing legend Mike

1172
00:55:09,120 --> 00:55:11,600
Speaker 1: Tyson Floyd. They're about to get it on the exhibition

1173
00:55:11,960 --> 00:55:14,960
Speaker 1: I believe is twenty twenty six next year, not a

1174
00:55:15,080 --> 00:55:20,360
Speaker 1: date set, but it's supposed to be Floyd and Mike Tyson.

1175
00:55:20,400 --> 00:55:22,840
Speaker 3: What you think of that? Man? They gonna get my money.

1176
00:55:23,040 --> 00:55:24,960
Speaker 3: I'm gonna watch you know what I'm saying.

1177
00:55:25,000 --> 00:55:27,279
Speaker 1: But what what what you got going on here? Man?

1178
00:55:27,960 --> 00:55:29,479
Speaker 1: I just seen Mike in that joint.

1179
00:55:29,520 --> 00:55:32,680
Speaker 3: I'm glad my man didn't try to knock buddy.

1180
00:55:32,880 --> 00:55:35,279
Speaker 2: Jake Paul could have knocked out Mike Tyson and they

1181
00:55:35,320 --> 00:55:37,359
Speaker 2: fight like that joint was not it was.

1182
00:55:37,440 --> 00:55:39,920
Speaker 1: It was a little bit sad to see. I don't

1183
00:55:39,920 --> 00:55:40,600
Speaker 1: know Mike.

1184
00:55:40,960 --> 00:55:42,960
Speaker 2: I'm trying to I don't want to see Mike in

1185
00:55:42,960 --> 00:55:45,719
Speaker 2: a situation. I think Floyd might just don't know. I

1186
00:55:45,760 --> 00:55:48,080
Speaker 2: don't know if he you know, it was the contract

1187
00:55:48,239 --> 00:55:50,160
Speaker 2: kind of set up, so so he needed to make

1188
00:55:50,200 --> 00:55:51,839
Speaker 2: it go a while, you know what I'm saying. So

1189
00:55:52,520 --> 00:55:55,560
Speaker 2: I don't know if that was really you know, I

1190
00:55:55,680 --> 00:55:56,200
Speaker 2: just can't.

1191
00:55:56,640 --> 00:55:59,799
Speaker 1: I ain't sure, bro like if that because I seen

1192
00:55:59,880 --> 00:56:01,520
Speaker 1: him training, I've seen him doing this.

1193
00:56:01,600 --> 00:56:06,160
Speaker 4: Here, he give you he could give you a minute

1194
00:56:06,760 --> 00:56:11,319
Speaker 4: of that. He's getting older, depo. I'm just saying, he

1195
00:56:11,360 --> 00:56:13,680
Speaker 4: ain't even give you a minute though he was in

1196
00:56:13,680 --> 00:56:17,000
Speaker 4: the Jones he gave you a minute I ain't see none.

1197
00:56:16,880 --> 00:56:17,799
Speaker 3: Of his training, just.

1198
00:56:20,960 --> 00:56:23,319
Speaker 1: Curious. I needed to see him, let him fly, let

1199
00:56:23,360 --> 00:56:26,120
Speaker 1: him fly, Mike, he was doing all that. I ain't

1200
00:56:26,160 --> 00:56:26,680
Speaker 1: seen none of that.

1201
00:56:26,800 --> 00:56:29,880
Speaker 3: You know, none of that. I don't know.

1202
00:56:30,080 --> 00:56:32,120
Speaker 1: I just with you. I don't even know if I

1203
00:56:32,160 --> 00:56:32,400
Speaker 1: want to.

1204
00:56:33,760 --> 00:56:35,200
Speaker 3: I want to. I would want to see this.

1205
00:56:35,480 --> 00:56:38,840
Speaker 2: Like let Floyd too, though, But I'm telling you, Floyd

1206
00:56:38,840 --> 00:56:42,720
Speaker 2: don't play. I like Floyd's Floyd got actual hands.

1207
00:56:42,760 --> 00:56:43,040
Speaker 3: Listen.

1208
00:56:43,040 --> 00:56:46,640
Speaker 1: So I'm just saying he's gonna sit there, and he's

1209
00:56:46,640 --> 00:56:47,359
Speaker 1: gonna sit there.

1210
00:56:47,280 --> 00:56:51,879
Speaker 2: And he's gonna sit there and tag Mike's ass.

1211
00:56:53,640 --> 00:56:57,080
Speaker 3: But it's gonna be like, you know, like a little bumble,

1212
00:56:57,200 --> 00:56:57,840
Speaker 3: like little sting.

1213
00:56:58,000 --> 00:56:59,960
Speaker 1: Hey, it's gonna be gonna be like little stings.

1214
00:57:00,080 --> 00:57:00,239
Speaker 3: You know.

1215
00:57:00,280 --> 00:57:01,239
Speaker 1: It ain't even that he.

1216
00:57:02,360 --> 00:57:04,440
Speaker 3: Man, how many I need to know?

1217
00:57:04,480 --> 00:57:05,520
Speaker 1: How many rounds?

1218
00:57:07,440 --> 00:57:08,200
Speaker 3: I need to know?

1219
00:57:08,440 --> 00:57:09,360
Speaker 1: How many rounds?

1220
00:57:09,719 --> 00:57:12,319
Speaker 3: Length of the rounds? Come on?

1221
00:57:12,560 --> 00:57:15,080
Speaker 1: Listen, man, Why your boy chat up here talking crazy

1222
00:57:15,160 --> 00:57:16,360
Speaker 1: last night about fighting me?

1223
00:57:16,360 --> 00:57:18,840
Speaker 3: Man, take a listen to this, broy, Oh please let

1224
00:57:18,840 --> 00:57:19,040
Speaker 3: me hear.

1225
00:57:20,040 --> 00:57:21,560
Speaker 1: You know you know what I might spit on.

1226
00:57:24,080 --> 00:57:28,520
Speaker 5: I'm gonna spit on Debot. Oh No, I'm I'm gonna

1227
00:57:28,520 --> 00:57:30,840
Speaker 5: make him fight me. I'm gonna make it.

1228
00:57:31,040 --> 00:57:33,160
Speaker 1: He's gonna fight you, all right, you got no.

1229
00:57:33,400 --> 00:57:36,560
Speaker 5: No no, because I want I want him extremely mad.

1230
00:57:37,000 --> 00:57:39,480
Speaker 5: I want him angry. I want him to exert so

1231
00:57:39,560 --> 00:57:42,360
Speaker 5: much energy trying to hurt me where I use it

1232
00:57:42,400 --> 00:57:45,520
Speaker 5: against him because I'm gonna be nice and calm and relax.

1233
00:57:47,400 --> 00:57:49,640
Speaker 3: I don't know not No, you ain't gonna be nice.

1234
00:57:51,680 --> 00:57:56,800
Speaker 5: Man, all right, you don't believe in your co host.

1235
00:57:56,720 --> 00:57:59,400
Speaker 1: Chat, believe in me chat. I believe in library time.

1236
00:58:00,560 --> 00:58:04,560
Speaker 5: Guarantee you I beat debo ass. I guarantee you tell

1237
00:58:04,640 --> 00:58:06,600
Speaker 5: you man, man.

1238
00:58:06,480 --> 00:58:06,920
Speaker 1: I got no.

1239
00:58:07,080 --> 00:58:09,360
Speaker 5: You don't got you don't got no combat combat sports

1240
00:58:09,360 --> 00:58:10,160
Speaker 5: background like me.

1241
00:58:12,520 --> 00:58:18,240
Speaker 1: Hell oh hey man, he like he liked to hear

1242
00:58:18,320 --> 00:58:21,480
Speaker 1: hisself talk. Man, that man spit on me. It ain't

1243
00:58:21,480 --> 00:58:23,320
Speaker 1: a rule in this world that's gonna stop me from

1244
00:58:23,320 --> 00:58:25,000
Speaker 1: trying to kill his ass.

1245
00:58:26,640 --> 00:58:29,320
Speaker 2: That's all for my own eyes. I wouldn't believe that

1246
00:58:29,440 --> 00:58:33,320
Speaker 2: he said it if I didn't see it. Bright Bright,

1247
00:58:34,400 --> 00:58:38,120
Speaker 2: you beyond you, beyond fight rules. I am going to

1248
00:58:38,200 --> 00:58:41,880
Speaker 2: try and take your life. Oh lo de boy, hands

1249
00:58:42,000 --> 00:58:42,480
Speaker 2: but you are.

1250
00:58:42,680 --> 00:58:46,360
Speaker 1: You when you know I'm beyond hands and feet bro

1251
00:58:47,440 --> 00:58:49,479
Speaker 1: still on me, and I'm going to try and take

1252
00:58:49,520 --> 00:58:52,400
Speaker 1: your life. They gonna have to choke me out to

1253
00:58:52,440 --> 00:59:00,400
Speaker 1: get me off of you. I'm stressing out. It ain't

1254
00:59:00,400 --> 00:59:02,400
Speaker 1: nothing to stress out about. You know what I'm stressing

1255
00:59:02,440 --> 00:59:02,840
Speaker 1: out about.

1256
00:59:02,840 --> 00:59:06,000
Speaker 3: What you're stressing out about? Powerball one point seven billion.

1257
00:59:06,200 --> 00:59:06,680
Speaker 1: Be moving.

1258
00:59:07,040 --> 00:59:07,840
Speaker 3: I need that.

1259
00:59:08,040 --> 00:59:10,480
Speaker 1: I already got a ticket already. I got my tickets already.

1260
00:59:10,520 --> 00:59:12,439
Speaker 1: How many numbers you gotta put that? How many numbers

1261
00:59:12,600 --> 00:59:16,040
Speaker 1: have caught up until I think it's October, the end

1262
00:59:16,040 --> 00:59:16,600
Speaker 1: of October?

1263
00:59:16,640 --> 00:59:20,480
Speaker 3: How many numbers you gotta put in for the power six? Okay?

1264
00:59:21,560 --> 00:59:21,880
Speaker 1: All right?

1265
00:59:22,120 --> 00:59:24,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, I got two of them right now. I'm going

1266
00:59:24,080 --> 00:59:25,160
Speaker 3: twenty three ninety two.

1267
00:59:26,160 --> 00:59:28,960
Speaker 1: Ain't no ninety two. You gotta flip it around. Twenty nine, okay,

1268
00:59:29,160 --> 00:59:30,920
Speaker 1: you could flip it around. You could go, you could go,

1269
00:59:31,000 --> 00:59:33,720
Speaker 1: you could go twenty three ninety two, I mean sorry,

1270
00:59:33,760 --> 00:59:36,360
Speaker 1: twenty three, three, twenty nine, you could go nine and

1271
00:59:36,440 --> 00:59:43,600
Speaker 1: two okay, then twenty, then two, then three.

1272
00:59:42,320 --> 00:59:46,640
Speaker 3: You get a yeah your Powerball beer two? How many

1273
00:59:46,720 --> 00:59:47,400
Speaker 3: numbers we are.

1274
00:59:47,360 --> 00:59:47,960
Speaker 1: Now, all right?

1275
00:59:48,360 --> 00:59:54,000
Speaker 2: Twenty two, three, two, nine, four, five, six, seven, three.

1276
00:59:56,280 --> 00:59:59,640
Speaker 2: We only need six though, okay, five and one, twenty three,

1277
01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:02,040
Speaker 2: only nine, that's four and the I'm gonna do nine.

1278
01:00:02,080 --> 01:00:02,240
Speaker 1: Two.

1279
01:00:02,600 --> 01:00:05,680
Speaker 3: No, no, no, no, brother, that's them two numbers. Joke

1280
01:00:05,800 --> 01:00:09,280
Speaker 3: them two numbers. I ain't never played three.

1281
01:00:12,920 --> 01:00:15,560
Speaker 1: So twenty three and twenty nine will be two numbers.

1282
01:00:16,320 --> 01:00:20,080
Speaker 3: Nine is the number, nine is one, two can be one,

1283
01:00:20,520 --> 01:00:22,640
Speaker 3: and then three can be your other one. Okay, So

1284
01:00:22,720 --> 01:00:24,240
Speaker 3: that's one, two, three, four, five.

1285
01:00:24,280 --> 01:00:28,040
Speaker 2: That's five numbers, right, Okay, No, that's six and then

1286
01:00:28,080 --> 01:00:29,120
Speaker 2: two is my powerball.

1287
01:00:30,280 --> 01:00:32,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, yes, hold.

1288
01:00:32,600 --> 01:00:34,440
Speaker 1: On, let's do it like this, twenty three ninety two.

1289
01:00:34,480 --> 01:00:37,560
Speaker 1: Hey man, I'm gonna be mad in the most at

1290
01:00:37,600 --> 01:00:39,600
Speaker 1: this hit because we're about to tell everybody how you're

1291
01:00:39,600 --> 01:00:41,320
Speaker 1: about to play these numbers. They probably go play that

1292
01:00:41,400 --> 01:00:43,440
Speaker 1: same shit. All right, Listen, we go run it like this,

1293
01:00:43,520 --> 01:00:45,320
Speaker 1: we go run it like this. It's gonna be twenty three,

1294
01:00:46,560 --> 01:00:49,480
Speaker 1: it's gonna be nine. Uh huh, it's gonna be two.

1295
01:00:52,920 --> 01:01:04,000
Speaker 1: We're gonna bump that back with a thirty two twenty nine,

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Speaker 1: and since we both got two in our number, the

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Speaker 1: powerball to two.

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Speaker 3: But it's book, it's book. But we hit with this one. Bro,

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna be the.

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Speaker 1: Happiest man, hey man ever. I'm gonna have to you

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Speaker 1: got to write, you gotta send that send me that

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Speaker 1: send me what I just told you to put down there,

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Speaker 1: because I'm gonna have to play that number. Bro, I

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Speaker 1: got you listen.

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Speaker 2: If if we hit this, the subscribers, whoever subscribes right now,

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Speaker 2: we're gonna out, y'all better subscribe if we hit this.

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Speaker 3: You know what I'm gonna do.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna pay you to come fight me, and I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna pay you good money so everybody could watch me

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Speaker 1: whip your ass.

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Speaker 3: Boy, you hear me whip your ass?

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Speaker 1: Hey, Hey, guys that we want to thank y'all for

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Speaker 1: joining us on this episode of de Bo and Joe.

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Speaker 1: We need y'all to go over there, hit that like button,

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Speaker 1: hit that subscribe button, and we go get back to

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Speaker 1: y'all Monday, and we gonna be half a billionaires and

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Speaker 1: we yat this mother.

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Speaker 2: We out and make sure y'all like, make sure y'all subscribe,

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Speaker 2: or I'm gonna have my good man Debot put hands

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Speaker 2: and feet on you.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, like I'm gonna do the chat. You looking, Hey,

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Speaker 1: just close his eye because I know you blind in it.

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Speaker 3: Let him live, Debot, let him live.

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Speaker 1: I'm show him so much. You know what, Bro, You're right,

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Speaker 1: You're right you're right.

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Speaker 3: Let me stop, Ad go crazy. Let me I was tripping.

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Speaker 3: I was trippling. You know what ship.

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Speaker 1: Hey, I would want to thank my Lord and say

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Speaker 1: Jesus Christ for being here for me and actually coming

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Speaker 1: and showing me that I was tripping. Hey, I would never.

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Speaker 1: I wouldn't never. I would like to say I would

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Speaker 1: never do that. But if I was in that situation

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Speaker 1: and he did that, I don't know if I could

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Speaker 1: control myself.

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Speaker 3: But I'm working on. I'm building my relationship with my

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Speaker 3: Lord and Savior.

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Speaker 1: Man. The more talking spend time with him, man, the better,

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Speaker 1: the better things get, and the better I feel. Man.

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Speaker 1: So listen, man, God bless all y'all. Man, y'all have

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Speaker 1: a beautiful day. Chad, you have a beautiful day. Brother,

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Speaker 1: love you. We are