1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:02,639 Speaker 1: It's time to get inside the Giants hunts. 2 00:00:02,960 --> 00:00:07,800 Speaker 2: Let's go, Let's not Giants giantsblo, give me some jobs. 3 00:00:07,840 --> 00:00:09,720 Speaker 1: Part of the Giants podcast network. 4 00:00:09,800 --> 00:00:11,920 Speaker 2: Let's roll. Welcome to the Giants Total Podcast, brought to 5 00:00:11,920 --> 00:00:13,840 Speaker 2: you by Citizens, the official bank of the New York 6 00:00:13,840 --> 00:00:18,160 Speaker 2: Football Giants. John Shvelk Shanahara are usual Tuesday show Giants, 7 00:00:18,200 --> 00:00:21,640 Speaker 2: obviously coming off a very disappointing thirty to six loss 8 00:00:21,720 --> 00:00:24,880 Speaker 2: to the Las Vegas Raider Sean losing Daniel Jones for 9 00:00:24,880 --> 00:00:28,000 Speaker 2: the year, with a torn acl Dallas Cowboys coming up 10 00:00:28,000 --> 00:00:30,000 Speaker 2: on Sunday, So we'll touch on all three of those things. 11 00:00:30,320 --> 00:00:33,760 Speaker 2: Let's first start with the game against the Raiders. Two 12 00:00:33,800 --> 00:00:35,840 Speaker 2: parts of this. Let's start with the defensive part beause 13 00:00:35,880 --> 00:00:37,640 Speaker 2: I think that's what kind of set the team back 14 00:00:37,680 --> 00:00:41,040 Speaker 2: and prevented any potential comeback lead. The Raiders just came out, 15 00:00:41,200 --> 00:00:42,919 Speaker 2: they moved the ball well, they ran it on him. 16 00:00:42,960 --> 00:00:45,080 Speaker 2: Two hundred and forty yards of offense in the first half. 17 00:00:45,400 --> 00:00:47,400 Speaker 2: For a team that had not scored twenty points in 18 00:00:47,440 --> 00:00:50,920 Speaker 2: a game all year, they scored twenty four in a half. 19 00:00:51,320 --> 00:00:54,760 Speaker 2: So to me, that kind of set the stage. Combined 20 00:00:54,800 --> 00:00:57,080 Speaker 2: with the issues on offense, where it just turned out 21 00:00:57,080 --> 00:00:58,360 Speaker 2: to be a really bad day at the office. 22 00:00:58,480 --> 00:01:00,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, and right out of the gate, Josh Jacob was 23 00:01:00,520 --> 00:01:03,600 Speaker 1: running free and he didn't look anything like the Josh 24 00:01:03,680 --> 00:01:06,080 Speaker 1: Jacobs we had seen all season long. Coming into the game. 25 00:01:06,160 --> 00:01:09,000 Speaker 1: Josh Jacobs was averaging three point nine yards at carry 26 00:01:09,400 --> 00:01:11,840 Speaker 1: and this was the NFL's leading rusher last year, and 27 00:01:11,920 --> 00:01:13,840 Speaker 1: yet he had a tough start to the season. So 28 00:01:14,680 --> 00:01:17,880 Speaker 1: last week when we were talking, it was during Halloween. 29 00:01:18,120 --> 00:01:21,280 Speaker 1: They hadn't fired the coach yet when we spoke about it, 30 00:01:21,319 --> 00:01:24,120 Speaker 1: and then of course it comes out late Tuesday night 31 00:01:24,200 --> 00:01:27,759 Speaker 1: that they fired Josh McDaniels and Antonio Pierce, of all people, 32 00:01:27,880 --> 00:01:30,479 Speaker 1: has named the interim coach. So a lot has happened 33 00:01:30,480 --> 00:01:33,080 Speaker 1: since then. And you know, if we had done this 34 00:01:33,560 --> 00:01:35,360 Speaker 1: at that moment, we probably would have said, Wow, a 35 00:01:35,400 --> 00:01:37,280 Speaker 1: short week with a new coaching staff like this should 36 00:01:37,280 --> 00:01:39,600 Speaker 1: be a slam down for the Giants. And in turn, 37 00:01:39,680 --> 00:01:42,840 Speaker 1: it almost seemed to galvanize this Raiders team. They played 38 00:01:43,120 --> 00:01:45,320 Speaker 1: a spirited football game, they would look like a totally 39 00:01:45,319 --> 00:01:47,680 Speaker 1: different team. And to your point, I thought the Giants 40 00:01:47,800 --> 00:01:51,200 Speaker 1: defense looked lethargic. Who would have known that trading Leonard 41 00:01:51,200 --> 00:01:54,840 Speaker 1: Williams away would have completely impacted the run defense. The 42 00:01:54,960 --> 00:01:57,080 Speaker 1: Raiders had not rushed for one hundred yards as a 43 00:01:57,120 --> 00:01:58,000 Speaker 1: team all season. 44 00:01:58,040 --> 00:02:00,760 Speaker 2: They averaged seventy yards per game. They're the worst the league. 45 00:02:00,800 --> 00:02:03,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, it was almost a non issue, a non factor. Now, 46 00:02:03,320 --> 00:02:05,920 Speaker 1: maybe that was Josh McDaniels and his fingerprints were all 47 00:02:05,960 --> 00:02:08,880 Speaker 1: over that and that's the reason why. But they were 48 00:02:09,480 --> 00:02:12,239 Speaker 1: blocking people, they had energy. Josh Jacobs ran with vigor 49 00:02:12,639 --> 00:02:14,520 Speaker 1: and they had one hundred and twenty five yards rushing 50 00:02:14,800 --> 00:02:17,480 Speaker 1: as a team. Josh Jacobs actually had one hundred yards 51 00:02:17,520 --> 00:02:18,919 Speaker 1: rushing and then on the last play of the game 52 00:02:18,960 --> 00:02:20,919 Speaker 1: lost three yards, so he doesn't get credit for that. 53 00:02:20,960 --> 00:02:22,600 Speaker 1: As an offense lineman, that would drive you nuts. But 54 00:02:23,120 --> 00:02:25,239 Speaker 1: I really felt like the defense could not get off 55 00:02:25,240 --> 00:02:27,680 Speaker 1: the field. And to give up thirty points to this 56 00:02:27,760 --> 00:02:31,320 Speaker 1: team in the Raiders last week, that was very disappointing. 57 00:02:31,360 --> 00:02:34,040 Speaker 1: And to your point, the Giant Stevens has done so 58 00:02:34,160 --> 00:02:36,200 Speaker 1: good all season long, like the Jets game. You look 59 00:02:36,200 --> 00:02:38,720 Speaker 1: at what they did to Breese Hall fifteen carries, seventeen. 60 00:02:38,440 --> 00:02:41,200 Speaker 2: Yards fourteen started three weeks ago. 61 00:02:41,040 --> 00:02:45,760 Speaker 1: And yeah, it felt like a very odd game defensively, 62 00:02:46,880 --> 00:02:50,400 Speaker 1: And you know, of course Aidan O'Connell's making his second start. 63 00:02:50,960 --> 00:02:53,040 Speaker 1: I would have thought there would be more pressure, more blitz. 64 00:02:53,080 --> 00:02:54,920 Speaker 1: We had one quarterback hit and it wasn't even by 65 00:02:55,040 --> 00:02:57,840 Speaker 1: d Lineman. It was Mike and McFadden. Zero sacks on 66 00:02:57,919 --> 00:02:59,920 Speaker 1: a young quarterback like this, there's no excuse for that. 67 00:03:00,440 --> 00:03:04,280 Speaker 1: We could not get home and thinking that's been our 68 00:03:04,280 --> 00:03:06,280 Speaker 1: calling card all season long and we couldn't get home. 69 00:03:06,280 --> 00:03:07,919 Speaker 2: And I think that goes back to being unable to 70 00:03:07,919 --> 00:03:11,480 Speaker 2: stop the run and then having an early deficit. Right, 71 00:03:11,520 --> 00:03:13,639 Speaker 2: the Raiders never really to do straight drop back. Yeah, 72 00:03:13,639 --> 00:03:15,160 Speaker 2: they did a ton of play action when they went 73 00:03:15,160 --> 00:03:17,160 Speaker 2: straight back drop back. It was a lot of quick stuff. 74 00:03:17,200 --> 00:03:19,560 Speaker 2: So the Giants only rushed the passer I think twenty 75 00:03:19,560 --> 00:03:21,120 Speaker 2: five times in the game. It's just not a lot 76 00:03:21,120 --> 00:03:24,400 Speaker 2: of reps, right, and then the Raiders able to use 77 00:03:24,440 --> 00:03:27,680 Speaker 2: design stuff where they're not putting their quarterback in danger. 78 00:03:27,720 --> 00:03:31,160 Speaker 2: But look, agreed, You know, Dexter Lawrence, who had frankly 79 00:03:31,200 --> 00:03:33,120 Speaker 2: looked like the best defensive player in the league last 80 00:03:33,120 --> 00:03:35,640 Speaker 2: couple of weeks, he was quiet. Cabon Thibadeau didn't have 81 00:03:35,680 --> 00:03:37,840 Speaker 2: a pressure in the game, and it just, you know, 82 00:03:37,960 --> 00:03:40,280 Speaker 2: not a whole lot was going right defensively. You know, 83 00:03:40,400 --> 00:03:42,080 Speaker 2: that was one matchup going into this game, you said, 84 00:03:42,080 --> 00:03:44,720 Speaker 2: look the Raiders' offensive. We talked to Lincoln Kennedy on 85 00:03:44,800 --> 00:03:47,840 Speaker 2: the pregame on the radio broadcast on Sunday. He does 86 00:03:47,840 --> 00:03:50,560 Speaker 2: the Raiders sees their radio analyst and obviously he goes, look, 87 00:03:50,560 --> 00:03:52,640 Speaker 2: this offensive one has been really bad this year. Yeah, 88 00:03:52,640 --> 00:03:54,360 Speaker 2: and you wouldn't known from watching this game. 89 00:03:54,520 --> 00:03:57,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, No, I mean, and look, Jimmy Garoppolo will tell me, 90 00:03:57,560 --> 00:04:00,480 Speaker 1: he'll agree with you. Like he's been banged up. You know, 91 00:04:00,520 --> 00:04:02,800 Speaker 1: he's been harassed, like when you look at you know, 92 00:04:02,800 --> 00:04:05,080 Speaker 1: some of their previous games, like he was under duress 93 00:04:05,280 --> 00:04:07,480 Speaker 1: and a lot of the big throws that he missed 94 00:04:07,520 --> 00:04:09,720 Speaker 1: about the Adams were he was getting drilled as he 95 00:04:09,760 --> 00:04:12,160 Speaker 1: was throwing the ball. And Giants zero pressures from any 96 00:04:12,200 --> 00:04:16,560 Speaker 1: d lineman. That can't happen, and that obviously is part 97 00:04:16,560 --> 00:04:17,920 Speaker 1: of the formula for a loss. 98 00:04:18,040 --> 00:04:19,719 Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, now let's go to the offensive side 99 00:04:19,720 --> 00:04:21,720 Speaker 2: of the ball. I thought it was pretty clear early 100 00:04:21,800 --> 00:04:24,480 Speaker 2: that Daniel Jones was a little bit rusty. The first 101 00:04:24,520 --> 00:04:27,360 Speaker 2: pass of the game, Saquon Barkley wide opening the flat 102 00:04:27,360 --> 00:04:29,719 Speaker 2: air mails are right over his head. Did a great 103 00:04:29,760 --> 00:04:33,120 Speaker 2: job from a mental standpoint. He checked in to two 104 00:04:33,520 --> 00:04:36,720 Speaker 2: deep passes to Jalen Hyatt against single high safety, had 105 00:04:36,760 --> 00:04:38,920 Speaker 2: him open deep down the field. Couldn't connect on either 106 00:04:38,960 --> 00:04:41,279 Speaker 2: one of those two. And you know, you look at 107 00:04:41,320 --> 00:04:43,560 Speaker 2: this game. If he connects on those, this whole thing 108 00:04:43,560 --> 00:04:45,960 Speaker 2: could look a whole lot different, right. The Raiders took 109 00:04:45,960 --> 00:04:47,640 Speaker 2: a couple of shots. They hit the one down the 110 00:04:47,640 --> 00:04:49,720 Speaker 2: field over the top on Deontae Banks. The Giants had 111 00:04:49,720 --> 00:04:52,440 Speaker 2: two shots. They couldn't complete those passes down the field, 112 00:04:52,839 --> 00:04:56,560 Speaker 2: and then eventually, obviously Daniel Jones injureds his knee and 113 00:04:56,600 --> 00:04:58,080 Speaker 2: then the whole thing changes. 114 00:04:58,240 --> 00:05:00,679 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean that was the al to the wound 115 00:05:00,760 --> 00:05:03,520 Speaker 1: literally right there for DJ to go down. But it 116 00:05:03,560 --> 00:05:06,440 Speaker 1: was missed opportunities, and you're bringing up those throws like 117 00:05:06,480 --> 00:05:09,039 Speaker 1: he had Jalen Hyatt streaking down the sideline. You have 118 00:05:09,120 --> 00:05:12,520 Speaker 1: to make those throws. And then the second one it 119 00:05:12,560 --> 00:05:14,080 Speaker 1: was out of bounds. You know, he didn't even have 120 00:05:14,160 --> 00:05:15,760 Speaker 1: a chance to catch and come down with the ball. 121 00:05:15,839 --> 00:05:18,919 Speaker 1: So certainly some missed opportunities, you understand. The first play 122 00:05:19,200 --> 00:05:21,400 Speaker 1: of the game. You know, hey, look you're probably a 123 00:05:21,400 --> 00:05:23,160 Speaker 1: little jacked up, a little juiced up as your first 124 00:05:23,160 --> 00:05:26,719 Speaker 1: came back. Also, Max Crosby was one on one on 125 00:05:26,760 --> 00:05:29,920 Speaker 1: the very first play of the game and he jumped up, 126 00:05:29,960 --> 00:05:31,960 Speaker 1: So maybe I don't know if that impacts the throw 127 00:05:31,960 --> 00:05:33,560 Speaker 1: a little bit. You think it's gonna get battened down. 128 00:05:34,560 --> 00:05:39,919 Speaker 1: But everything was laid out before the game for great success. Offensively, 129 00:05:40,000 --> 00:05:43,120 Speaker 1: Daniel Jones is back, Andrew Thomas's back, Evan Neil's back, 130 00:05:43,200 --> 00:05:46,280 Speaker 1: like every the offensive line actually looked like the offensive 131 00:05:46,279 --> 00:05:48,679 Speaker 1: line that started Week one against Dallas for the first time, 132 00:05:49,120 --> 00:05:50,880 Speaker 1: and so you think, like, all right, hey, this offense 133 00:05:50,920 --> 00:05:53,560 Speaker 1: is gonna be humming. Of course, no Darren Waller, which 134 00:05:53,560 --> 00:05:55,200 Speaker 1: I think that was a big impact in the passing 135 00:05:55,200 --> 00:06:00,200 Speaker 1: game not having him. But Saquan was the lone rice 136 00:06:00,240 --> 00:06:03,320 Speaker 1: spot like he was running like a man possessed. I 137 00:06:03,320 --> 00:06:05,359 Speaker 1: thought early on Saquon had a lot of juice. He 138 00:06:05,440 --> 00:06:08,279 Speaker 1: was he was breaking tackles, breaking arm tackles. He should 139 00:06:08,279 --> 00:06:10,640 Speaker 1: have had thirty carries the way he was playing. But 140 00:06:11,320 --> 00:06:14,159 Speaker 1: not just the miss throws, I thought too. The Giants 141 00:06:14,320 --> 00:06:16,720 Speaker 1: really shot themselves in the foot. Not a lot of penalties, 142 00:06:16,760 --> 00:06:20,359 Speaker 1: but they were crucial, kind of like crucial, crucially timed 143 00:06:20,920 --> 00:06:24,240 Speaker 1: or or like the worst case time fourth in inches, 144 00:06:24,279 --> 00:06:26,360 Speaker 1: they're going for the quarterback sneak and Evan Neil jumps 145 00:06:26,400 --> 00:06:28,920 Speaker 1: off side or Brian Dable. Everybody has seen that. I'm 146 00:06:28,920 --> 00:06:31,320 Speaker 1: sure online, you know, asking him what happened very gently 147 00:06:32,240 --> 00:06:33,680 Speaker 1: and then another fourth by the. 148 00:06:33,680 --> 00:06:36,040 Speaker 2: Way, indicated that that might have been a try to 149 00:06:36,120 --> 00:06:36,960 Speaker 2: draw them off side. 150 00:06:37,000 --> 00:06:40,719 Speaker 1: It was Max Crosby jumped. Now, Max Crosby did not 151 00:06:40,839 --> 00:06:42,760 Speaker 1: come into the neutral zone, so it wasn't a flag, 152 00:06:42,960 --> 00:06:45,520 Speaker 1: but he Max Crosby definitely baited him because he tried 153 00:06:45,520 --> 00:06:47,479 Speaker 1: to act. He acted like he was jumping towards the 154 00:06:47,520 --> 00:06:48,599 Speaker 1: line like the ball had snap. 155 00:06:49,200 --> 00:06:49,360 Speaker 3: Uh. 156 00:06:49,400 --> 00:06:51,560 Speaker 1: But you gotta you gotta maintain your composion. You gotta 157 00:06:51,720 --> 00:06:55,400 Speaker 1: block that out. Another fourth uh and short and they 158 00:06:55,440 --> 00:06:57,760 Speaker 1: go for the quarterback snake. Don't get it, So there's 159 00:06:57,760 --> 00:07:00,520 Speaker 1: another loss. And then later on in the game another 160 00:07:00,560 --> 00:07:04,120 Speaker 1: short yard is in Bellner jumps. So those situations, those 161 00:07:04,120 --> 00:07:07,000 Speaker 1: are huge, huge situations. And look, if you have a 162 00:07:07,080 --> 00:07:09,080 Speaker 1: false start on a first down or second down, you 163 00:07:09,120 --> 00:07:11,800 Speaker 1: can overcome that, but not third and inches, fourth in 164 00:07:11,840 --> 00:07:15,080 Speaker 1: inches kills you like that. That totally ruins your plan. 165 00:07:15,520 --> 00:07:18,480 Speaker 3: You're ready for a change. Pay Day comes early with citizens, 166 00:07:18,600 --> 00:07:21,840 Speaker 3: so go to that retreat. Knew you move to the country. 167 00:07:22,560 --> 00:07:26,040 Speaker 3: Now you're raising goats and launching a lifestyle brand. Are 168 00:07:26,120 --> 00:07:27,720 Speaker 3: you ready for all that life brings? 169 00:07:30,600 --> 00:07:32,600 Speaker 2: John? Let me, I'm want to ask you something about 170 00:07:32,600 --> 00:07:34,760 Speaker 2: the tush push play. I want to talk about tush 171 00:07:34,800 --> 00:07:38,840 Speaker 2: push technique for a second. Yeah, I think what maybe 172 00:07:38,840 --> 00:07:41,680 Speaker 2: someone no team executes this play like the Eagles do, right, 173 00:07:41,800 --> 00:07:44,120 Speaker 2: So I want to get I haven't talked to anyone 174 00:07:44,160 --> 00:07:46,200 Speaker 2: here about this is just my simple theory watching the 175 00:07:46,200 --> 00:07:49,160 Speaker 2: Giants do it. Unlike your traditional quarterback sneak, where the 176 00:07:49,200 --> 00:07:51,200 Speaker 2: quarterback it kind of gets low and tries to sneak 177 00:07:51,200 --> 00:07:53,640 Speaker 2: his way in on that. If you're gonna have the 178 00:07:53,680 --> 00:07:56,559 Speaker 2: guys push, the quarterback has to stay on his feet. 179 00:07:56,840 --> 00:08:00,080 Speaker 2: You know. If he dives in low right away and 180 00:08:00,120 --> 00:08:02,280 Speaker 2: the gates the push, you can't push. So I think 181 00:08:02,680 --> 00:08:06,600 Speaker 2: Daniel almost tried to execute it like a traditional quarterback sneak, 182 00:08:06,640 --> 00:08:08,800 Speaker 2: and the guys behind him didn't really have a chance 183 00:08:09,200 --> 00:08:10,960 Speaker 2: to do the push push, you know what I mean. 184 00:08:11,120 --> 00:08:12,760 Speaker 1: Well, and there also has to be room to go, 185 00:08:13,200 --> 00:08:15,280 Speaker 1: like to go somewhere. So the reason why the Eagles 186 00:08:15,280 --> 00:08:17,520 Speaker 1: are so good at it is because they get a surge. 187 00:08:17,560 --> 00:08:19,560 Speaker 1: The whole point of that is to get that surge. 188 00:08:19,760 --> 00:08:22,440 Speaker 1: And when you're all working together and driving your feet, 189 00:08:22,600 --> 00:08:24,720 Speaker 1: it's not hey, snap the ball and dive down to 190 00:08:24,720 --> 00:08:27,280 Speaker 1: the ground to your point. It's snap the ball, be 191 00:08:27,360 --> 00:08:29,680 Speaker 1: lower than them and drive back. And when you do 192 00:08:29,760 --> 00:08:32,520 Speaker 1: it in that wing formation almost, I mean, that's how 193 00:08:32,559 --> 00:08:34,800 Speaker 1: birds fly in the sky, right, You always see it 194 00:08:34,840 --> 00:08:37,400 Speaker 1: in a V formation. There's a reason for that. So 195 00:08:38,000 --> 00:08:41,200 Speaker 1: you've got to kind of create that V and you 196 00:08:41,280 --> 00:08:43,640 Speaker 1: get the push and the surge. And if you don't 197 00:08:43,679 --> 00:08:45,640 Speaker 1: get that up front, man, you can't ask Daniel Jones 198 00:08:45,640 --> 00:08:47,640 Speaker 1: to all of a sudden, or any quarterback for that matter, 199 00:08:47,880 --> 00:08:49,719 Speaker 1: to all of a sudden push the offensive line. And 200 00:08:49,760 --> 00:08:51,760 Speaker 1: they've got to be the ones to get the push. 201 00:08:51,880 --> 00:08:54,000 Speaker 1: I will say, Look, nobody does it like the Eagles. 202 00:08:54,000 --> 00:08:56,440 Speaker 1: And if you need any better example of it, go 203 00:08:56,480 --> 00:09:00,160 Speaker 1: look at the play when Dallas did not score and 204 00:09:00,160 --> 00:09:02,640 Speaker 1: they get the ball in like two inch line, they 205 00:09:02,679 --> 00:09:05,160 Speaker 1: have to run the toush push coming out. That was 206 00:09:05,240 --> 00:09:08,640 Speaker 1: one of the best surges I've seen out of all 207 00:09:08,679 --> 00:09:10,920 Speaker 1: of the quarterbacks. Thinks that they have probably done. And 208 00:09:10,960 --> 00:09:12,800 Speaker 1: Micah Parsons actually tries to jump on the pile and 209 00:09:12,840 --> 00:09:15,679 Speaker 1: it looks like he's body surfing as he rides the 210 00:09:15,720 --> 00:09:19,120 Speaker 1: wave of the search backwards backwards. Yeah, so that that 211 00:09:19,240 --> 00:09:21,199 Speaker 1: right there is the key with it. I will also 212 00:09:21,360 --> 00:09:25,240 Speaker 1: say that given that your quarterback is coming off of 213 00:09:25,280 --> 00:09:27,360 Speaker 1: a neck injury, I don't I was surprised to see 214 00:09:27,440 --> 00:09:29,679 Speaker 1: them even run that play because now you're asking your 215 00:09:29,720 --> 00:09:35,360 Speaker 1: quarterback to basically expose himself and look, Saquan had been running, well, 216 00:09:35,440 --> 00:09:37,720 Speaker 1: you had your office line back to full strength. Basically 217 00:09:38,240 --> 00:09:41,280 Speaker 1: there's other plays for that, but that was certainly a 218 00:09:41,320 --> 00:09:44,480 Speaker 1: big miss. And you know you mentioned the injury. I 219 00:09:44,520 --> 00:09:46,760 Speaker 1: think I feel like when Daniel Jones went down, like 220 00:09:47,600 --> 00:09:49,920 Speaker 1: everybody was deflated, Like the entire team. You can kind 221 00:09:49,920 --> 00:09:53,280 Speaker 1: of feel the energy just leave the sideline, and of 222 00:09:53,320 --> 00:09:56,680 Speaker 1: course everybody feels terrible for Daniel Jones. Obviously he's coming 223 00:09:56,720 --> 00:09:58,960 Speaker 1: back from the neck injury. And now you think, all right, 224 00:09:59,000 --> 00:10:01,680 Speaker 1: here we go, maybe let's act some wins together and 225 00:10:02,280 --> 00:10:04,040 Speaker 1: to find out now that he's gone for the season, 226 00:10:04,120 --> 00:10:07,160 Speaker 1: and in that moment, that was such a tough moment 227 00:10:07,240 --> 00:10:09,360 Speaker 1: to see. Well, he stumbles and goes down end of 228 00:10:09,360 --> 00:10:11,760 Speaker 1: the quarter, he's shaking it off. You think, okay, he's 229 00:10:11,760 --> 00:10:13,920 Speaker 1: all right, and then just crumble on the next play, 230 00:10:14,240 --> 00:10:16,000 Speaker 1: Like I think everybody kind of knew, like that's the 231 00:10:16,040 --> 00:10:17,199 Speaker 1: worst case scenario, and. 232 00:10:17,679 --> 00:10:19,320 Speaker 2: You hope that maybe it was in the ACL. Maybe 233 00:10:19,320 --> 00:10:19,920 Speaker 2: it was an MCL. 234 00:10:20,160 --> 00:10:22,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, maybe he got lucky, But just kind of the 235 00:10:22,720 --> 00:10:24,840 Speaker 1: way that everything happened, like you kind of knew it 236 00:10:24,880 --> 00:10:28,440 Speaker 1: was gonna be it was gonna be catastrophic. And I think, 237 00:10:28,840 --> 00:10:30,920 Speaker 1: you know, seeing Saquon all of a sudden, once he 238 00:10:30,960 --> 00:10:33,160 Speaker 1: realized what was going on, he's on the sidelines. Now, hey, 239 00:10:33,200 --> 00:10:34,599 Speaker 1: look we got to pick everybody up, we got to 240 00:10:34,600 --> 00:10:37,600 Speaker 1: step it up. So you know, that definitely changes everything. 241 00:10:37,600 --> 00:10:39,960 Speaker 1: And then from a game plan standpoint, Okay, you basically 242 00:10:39,960 --> 00:10:42,680 Speaker 1: had this entire call sheet right here, and you know 243 00:10:42,720 --> 00:10:44,559 Speaker 1: you've got all this stuff that you're prepared for all 244 00:10:44,600 --> 00:10:47,400 Speaker 1: week here for the Raiders. Okay, now basically we can 245 00:10:47,520 --> 00:10:50,000 Speaker 1: run this play, this play, this play? What is what 246 00:10:50,080 --> 00:10:52,480 Speaker 1: does our backup quarterback really know this play? How many 247 00:10:52,520 --> 00:10:54,199 Speaker 1: reps did you get on this one? So now you're 248 00:10:54,240 --> 00:10:56,800 Speaker 1: going through and you're picking a la carte. Here are 249 00:10:56,800 --> 00:10:59,400 Speaker 1: the plays that we know that he understands the concepts 250 00:10:59,440 --> 00:11:02,040 Speaker 1: and he's really good at so interesting, it really just 251 00:11:02,120 --> 00:11:05,200 Speaker 1: kind of narrows your selection. It's like going into a 252 00:11:05,240 --> 00:11:07,960 Speaker 1: restaurant and you ask for the for the menu, and 253 00:11:08,000 --> 00:11:09,880 Speaker 1: I say, yeah, here's the menu. But we don't have that. 254 00:11:09,880 --> 00:11:11,160 Speaker 1: We don't have that, we don't out of that. We're 255 00:11:11,160 --> 00:11:13,040 Speaker 1: out of that. Oh and the specials they're not they're 256 00:11:13,040 --> 00:11:13,880 Speaker 1: already sold out too. 257 00:11:14,559 --> 00:11:16,520 Speaker 2: Gihns Little podcast is brought to you by Citizens, the 258 00:11:16,559 --> 00:11:18,520 Speaker 2: official bank of the Giants from Game did every Day. 259 00:11:18,559 --> 00:11:21,240 Speaker 2: Citizens is made ready for Giants fans with insights, guidance, 260 00:11:21,240 --> 00:11:24,800 Speaker 2: and solutions. Learn more at citizens bank dot com. And 261 00:11:24,840 --> 00:11:27,320 Speaker 2: I'm so I apologize interrupted you before you mentioned that, 262 00:11:27,760 --> 00:11:28,880 Speaker 2: you know, and this is why I brought up the 263 00:11:28,880 --> 00:11:31,199 Speaker 2: defense first, even though the Daniel Joe's thing's happening, and 264 00:11:31,520 --> 00:11:35,679 Speaker 2: we will get back to that moving forward. Here, Saquon 265 00:11:35,840 --> 00:11:38,439 Speaker 2: the way he ran should have gone thirty carries. Yeah, 266 00:11:38,440 --> 00:11:40,240 Speaker 2: problem is that you're down twenty four to nothing in half. 267 00:11:40,160 --> 00:11:42,280 Speaker 1: Right, the game gets away from you. 268 00:11:42,200 --> 00:11:45,200 Speaker 2: Right, you know, if it's ten to nothing at Halftimequon 269 00:11:45,280 --> 00:11:46,760 Speaker 2: might be able to carry you home in the second 270 00:11:46,800 --> 00:11:47,480 Speaker 2: half of that game. 271 00:11:47,640 --> 00:11:50,559 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I agree. And really, the Giants have been 272 00:11:50,600 --> 00:11:53,240 Speaker 1: good in the red zone with forcing the kickfield goals, 273 00:11:53,240 --> 00:11:55,280 Speaker 1: you know, and in that situation, if they held them 274 00:11:55,280 --> 00:11:56,720 Speaker 1: to a field goal. Now maybe it's just a one 275 00:11:56,760 --> 00:12:00,480 Speaker 1: score game, or now maybe it's it's reachable. But you know, 276 00:12:00,520 --> 00:12:03,040 Speaker 1: even with Tommy DeVito coming into the game, you know, 277 00:12:03,160 --> 00:12:06,920 Speaker 1: things can kind of change. And I think in that instant, 278 00:12:07,160 --> 00:12:09,719 Speaker 1: you know, you kind of channel back to the Jets game, Like, hey, 279 00:12:09,760 --> 00:12:12,440 Speaker 1: all right, when Tommy DeVito came into the game after 280 00:12:12,480 --> 00:12:15,520 Speaker 1: Tyrod exited, it was all Saquan, all Saquan, And part 281 00:12:15,559 --> 00:12:17,040 Speaker 1: of it was because the rain and the conditions in 282 00:12:17,080 --> 00:12:19,920 Speaker 1: the weather. But I think that that's what you have 283 00:12:19,960 --> 00:12:21,600 Speaker 1: to do, and you have to find out, all right, 284 00:12:21,760 --> 00:12:23,280 Speaker 1: who's our best player. How do we get him the 285 00:12:23,320 --> 00:12:26,400 Speaker 1: most amount of touches. Saquan is playing really well right now. 286 00:12:27,040 --> 00:12:28,839 Speaker 1: Obviously on the fourth down they go to him. He's 287 00:12:28,840 --> 00:12:31,720 Speaker 1: your go to guy, and like I said, without Darren Waller, 288 00:12:32,000 --> 00:12:34,640 Speaker 1: like he's the most trustworthy player and the guy that 289 00:12:34,679 --> 00:12:36,480 Speaker 1: you want the ball in his hands every single time 290 00:12:36,520 --> 00:12:36,800 Speaker 1: you can. 291 00:12:36,960 --> 00:12:39,440 Speaker 2: All right, now, let's talk about the Jones injury as 292 00:12:39,440 --> 00:12:41,360 Speaker 2: a whole. Here, you already talked about how it impacted 293 00:12:41,440 --> 00:12:44,240 Speaker 2: the game. You're a veteran leader in that locker room. 294 00:12:44,280 --> 00:12:47,200 Speaker 2: Now you still have eight games to play. Yeah, you're 295 00:12:47,240 --> 00:12:49,920 Speaker 2: two and seven but you have almost half the year 296 00:12:50,520 --> 00:12:53,160 Speaker 2: and Tyrod's out for at least three more weeks. We 297 00:12:53,200 --> 00:12:55,160 Speaker 2: don't know his injury is more serious, it could take 298 00:12:55,200 --> 00:12:57,040 Speaker 2: longer than that. So it's three weeks in a buy. 299 00:12:57,120 --> 00:13:00,400 Speaker 2: So he's gonna have literally six full actual weeks to 300 00:13:00,480 --> 00:13:02,960 Speaker 2: kind of get back from this injury right to be 301 00:13:03,000 --> 00:13:05,880 Speaker 2: ready for that game after the bye. So, as a veteran, 302 00:13:06,520 --> 00:13:08,920 Speaker 2: what are you trying to do to make sure that 303 00:13:09,000 --> 00:13:12,560 Speaker 2: your entire team stays fully engaged here and it's still 304 00:13:12,559 --> 00:13:14,480 Speaker 2: putting out a good effort As someone that used to 305 00:13:14,520 --> 00:13:14,800 Speaker 2: be a. 306 00:13:14,720 --> 00:13:18,920 Speaker 1: Captain, Yeah, no excuses. You gotta go win. Josh jobs. 307 00:13:19,320 --> 00:13:21,480 Speaker 1: Josh Dobbs just won a game for the Minnesota Vikings. 308 00:13:21,520 --> 00:13:23,720 Speaker 1: He'd been on the team for four days. Right, he 309 00:13:23,720 --> 00:13:25,640 Speaker 1: didn't even know the guy's names, He didn't know his 310 00:13:25,679 --> 00:13:28,559 Speaker 1: receivers names, he didn't know the snap count. He's practicing 311 00:13:28,760 --> 00:13:31,120 Speaker 1: the cadence on the sideline before he goes in the game. 312 00:13:31,240 --> 00:13:32,280 Speaker 2: That was amazing to watch. 313 00:13:32,400 --> 00:13:35,440 Speaker 1: Yet they won like he and he actually was a 314 00:13:35,440 --> 00:13:37,679 Speaker 1: big part of the reason why they won. He scrambled 315 00:13:37,720 --> 00:13:40,120 Speaker 1: for a bunch of plays, ran for a couple first time. 316 00:13:40,320 --> 00:13:42,080 Speaker 2: Aren't a bad team either, By the way No. 317 00:13:42,160 --> 00:13:44,959 Speaker 1: I mean they they you know, like that they had 318 00:13:44,960 --> 00:13:47,880 Speaker 1: no business winning that game with Josh Dollas, but it happened. 319 00:13:48,280 --> 00:13:50,719 Speaker 1: So you kind of channel that and you fuel that. 320 00:13:50,960 --> 00:13:54,280 Speaker 1: And the other thing is it's Dallas week. I don't 321 00:13:54,280 --> 00:13:56,520 Speaker 1: care who the quarterback is. I don't care what the 322 00:13:56,559 --> 00:13:58,920 Speaker 1: record is. If you have a chance to play the 323 00:13:59,000 --> 00:14:01,040 Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys and you have a chance to beat them 324 00:14:01,040 --> 00:14:03,320 Speaker 1: in their own house, that's all that matters. So you've 325 00:14:03,320 --> 00:14:05,559 Speaker 1: got a cowboy up if you will. And I think 326 00:14:05,600 --> 00:14:08,480 Speaker 1: every pro will tell you, Look, this is the name 327 00:14:08,520 --> 00:14:10,760 Speaker 1: of the game. Like guys go down every single year. 328 00:14:11,000 --> 00:14:14,439 Speaker 1: It happens. The Jets lost Aaron Rodgers, they're winning games. 329 00:14:14,840 --> 00:14:17,440 Speaker 1: Was that in spite of Zach Wilson, not because of them? 330 00:14:17,800 --> 00:14:20,200 Speaker 1: So you can still win football games. And I think 331 00:14:20,240 --> 00:14:22,920 Speaker 1: the challenge really is just, hey, look, it's on all 332 00:14:22,960 --> 00:14:24,760 Speaker 1: of us guys in the locker room. And that's where 333 00:14:24,760 --> 00:14:26,760 Speaker 1: the veteran players need to step up. You can't feel 334 00:14:26,800 --> 00:14:28,800 Speaker 1: sorry for yourself. The Cowboys don't care. They don't give 335 00:14:28,800 --> 00:14:31,640 Speaker 1: a hoot. Nobody else in the league cares about your injuries, 336 00:14:31,640 --> 00:14:34,280 Speaker 1: about your problems. You've got to go win a football game. 337 00:14:34,600 --> 00:14:37,160 Speaker 1: And I think that that mindset obviously has to start 338 00:14:37,160 --> 00:14:39,320 Speaker 1: at the top. I'm sure Brian Dable is already preaching 339 00:14:39,360 --> 00:14:41,800 Speaker 1: that the position coaches. Everybody's got to buy in. But 340 00:14:42,440 --> 00:14:44,720 Speaker 1: the message really from Dable to the team is there's 341 00:14:44,760 --> 00:14:48,120 Speaker 1: no cavalry coming, Like, there's not another set of troops 342 00:14:48,120 --> 00:14:51,080 Speaker 1: coming to rescue you from the season. You have to fight. 343 00:14:51,160 --> 00:14:53,440 Speaker 1: You've got to fight your way out of it. Like 344 00:14:53,680 --> 00:14:55,880 Speaker 1: we talked about on the postgame show, minuit, you to mention, hey, 345 00:14:55,880 --> 00:14:58,400 Speaker 1: there's the ship's taking on water. Well, you could either 346 00:14:58,400 --> 00:15:00,800 Speaker 1: grab a bucket or jump ship. And so everybody's got 347 00:15:00,880 --> 00:15:02,360 Speaker 1: to grab a bucket, and you got to do your part. 348 00:15:03,520 --> 00:15:06,760 Speaker 3: You love turf, You're good at it. So you start 349 00:15:06,800 --> 00:15:10,840 Speaker 3: a turf fizz business grows, your savings grow, become the 350 00:15:10,880 --> 00:15:14,920 Speaker 3: most celebrated name in turfs. Are you ready for all 351 00:15:14,960 --> 00:15:15,720 Speaker 3: that life rings? 352 00:15:18,080 --> 00:15:20,400 Speaker 2: Okay, now, before we talk about Dallas, we will want 353 00:15:20,400 --> 00:15:22,440 Speaker 2: to say I will well, you know, let's do Dallas now, 354 00:15:22,440 --> 00:15:24,040 Speaker 2: and I'll do the big picture Daniel Jill sing In 355 00:15:24,080 --> 00:15:27,720 Speaker 2: a second, if I could pick the opponent I would 356 00:15:27,800 --> 00:15:31,160 Speaker 2: least want you face with a undrafted rookie quarterback up 357 00:15:31,200 --> 00:15:34,320 Speaker 2: coming this week, it would probably be the Dallas Cowboys 358 00:15:34,360 --> 00:15:38,200 Speaker 2: defense with you know, at least Philly's defense. You know, 359 00:15:38,280 --> 00:15:41,880 Speaker 2: I'm gonna say it's it's simpler, but it ish. Dallas 360 00:15:41,960 --> 00:15:45,200 Speaker 2: just does so many different things up front with their blitzes, 361 00:15:45,280 --> 00:15:49,640 Speaker 2: with their coverages, They're gonna try to basically make Tommy 362 00:15:49,680 --> 00:15:53,560 Speaker 2: DeVito's head a cyclone and have it spinning at a 363 00:15:53,760 --> 00:15:56,440 Speaker 2: jillion miles power. So what can you do as an 364 00:15:56,480 --> 00:15:59,640 Speaker 2: offense here to help him out against the defense that 365 00:16:00,160 --> 00:16:03,720 Speaker 2: just is like we've seen what they've done against offenses 366 00:16:03,720 --> 00:16:07,280 Speaker 2: that have struggled this year. It's just been dominant performances, takeaways, 367 00:16:07,320 --> 00:16:09,000 Speaker 2: pick sixes, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera. 368 00:16:09,320 --> 00:16:11,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think Dallas and Philly the two best defenses 369 00:16:11,360 --> 00:16:12,880 Speaker 1: right now. And to be honest with the Giants have 370 00:16:13,000 --> 00:16:15,760 Speaker 1: not played well against them up front in the last 371 00:16:15,840 --> 00:16:18,040 Speaker 1: couple of years. And the bolt you know, in the 372 00:16:18,040 --> 00:16:20,840 Speaker 1: Eagles games last year, it was a free for all. No, 373 00:16:21,000 --> 00:16:23,880 Speaker 1: we couldn't block a Son Reddick, we couldn't block Fletcher Cox, 374 00:16:23,880 --> 00:16:26,840 Speaker 1: I mean, and they added Jayalen Carter and so there's 375 00:16:26,880 --> 00:16:30,840 Speaker 1: a mess there for Dallas. They obviously Michael Parsons is 376 00:16:30,840 --> 00:16:33,360 Speaker 1: a problem. Look, he's an issue, and the challenge with 377 00:16:33,440 --> 00:16:35,680 Speaker 1: him is he doesn't just line up like Max Crosby, 378 00:16:36,040 --> 00:16:37,520 Speaker 1: you know, like you know he's gonna be against the 379 00:16:37,560 --> 00:16:39,720 Speaker 1: right tackle or the left tackle, you know, and he's 380 00:16:39,720 --> 00:16:42,480 Speaker 1: got his majority of reps. But Michah lines up everywhere, 381 00:16:42,640 --> 00:16:46,160 Speaker 1: like he'll line up over the car than people realize. Yeah, 382 00:16:46,160 --> 00:16:48,080 Speaker 1: I mean he was standing up over the center again 383 00:16:48,480 --> 00:16:51,000 Speaker 1: in the Rams game and gives him a juke move 384 00:16:51,040 --> 00:16:53,880 Speaker 1: and beats him for a sack. So Micah is everywhere. 385 00:16:53,920 --> 00:16:56,320 Speaker 1: They put him in every different position and they create 386 00:16:56,440 --> 00:16:58,280 Speaker 1: different ways for him. He had a sack against the 387 00:16:58,320 --> 00:17:01,000 Speaker 1: Jets where he's lined up against Dwayne Brown and they 388 00:17:01,080 --> 00:17:03,360 Speaker 1: run like a three man twist. They run two guys 389 00:17:03,440 --> 00:17:05,040 Speaker 1: up the outside. They run him right up the eight 390 00:17:05,119 --> 00:17:08,520 Speaker 1: gap and he comes in scott free and sacks Zach Wilson. 391 00:17:08,560 --> 00:17:11,840 Speaker 1: So they're they're finding wrinkles to get him open and 392 00:17:11,880 --> 00:17:14,119 Speaker 1: get him free shots on the quarterback. But you know 393 00:17:14,119 --> 00:17:17,000 Speaker 1: it's not just him. Look, DeMarcus Lawrence is a heck 394 00:17:17,040 --> 00:17:19,879 Speaker 1: of a player. They've done a great job up front. 395 00:17:19,920 --> 00:17:22,359 Speaker 2: Osa Digizoo has had a really good year at defensive tackle. 396 00:17:22,480 --> 00:17:24,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, and it's amazing how when everybody's given all the 397 00:17:24,600 --> 00:17:27,800 Speaker 1: attention to this guy. Everybody else gets one on one matchups, 398 00:17:27,880 --> 00:17:31,760 Speaker 1: so they're definitely a handful up front. You know. Look defensively, 399 00:17:32,040 --> 00:17:34,959 Speaker 1: I think Dan Quinn is one of the best coaches 400 00:17:34,960 --> 00:17:36,560 Speaker 1: in the league. You know, I wouldn't be shocked if 401 00:17:36,560 --> 00:17:37,400 Speaker 1: he's a head coach. 402 00:17:37,280 --> 00:17:39,960 Speaker 2: Next year, whether in Dallas or somewhere else. 403 00:17:40,160 --> 00:17:42,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, and you should be surprised. He's a Jersey boy. 404 00:17:42,800 --> 00:17:45,679 Speaker 1: He's from Morristown, so of course this game probably has 405 00:17:45,680 --> 00:17:47,199 Speaker 1: a little bit more of an element to it for 406 00:17:47,280 --> 00:17:49,679 Speaker 1: him as well. But I think the challenge for the 407 00:17:49,720 --> 00:17:52,640 Speaker 1: Giants what you have to do is first down production 408 00:17:52,800 --> 00:17:55,240 Speaker 1: is so paramount, Like you can't just go up on 409 00:17:55,320 --> 00:17:57,800 Speaker 1: first down and lose two yards. Now you're second and twelve. 410 00:17:57,840 --> 00:17:59,800 Speaker 1: You can't go up on first down, throw the ball, 411 00:17:59,840 --> 00:18:02,119 Speaker 1: it's in complete. Now we're in second and long. Like, 412 00:18:02,200 --> 00:18:05,159 Speaker 1: first down production is so important because you have to 413 00:18:05,240 --> 00:18:09,240 Speaker 1: give you your young quarterback and Tom and DeVito confidence that, hey, 414 00:18:09,280 --> 00:18:13,000 Speaker 1: we're gonna put you in third and short situations. I 415 00:18:13,000 --> 00:18:15,240 Speaker 1: don't think the Giants are gonna be looking for big 416 00:18:15,280 --> 00:18:17,280 Speaker 1: explosive plays and hey we're gonna have you know, We're 417 00:18:17,359 --> 00:18:19,560 Speaker 1: take a bunch of deep shots here. Maybe there's a 418 00:18:19,600 --> 00:18:21,960 Speaker 1: couple opportunities for that, but it's gonna have to be 419 00:18:22,119 --> 00:18:25,720 Speaker 1: ten eleven, twelve, thirteen play drives in order to get 420 00:18:25,720 --> 00:18:29,000 Speaker 1: a touchdown. So I think what you do is, you know, 421 00:18:29,040 --> 00:18:31,600 Speaker 1: it creates some up tempo. I think that could help. Hey, 422 00:18:31,600 --> 00:18:33,840 Speaker 1: maybe if you go a little no huddle, not two 423 00:18:33,920 --> 00:18:36,000 Speaker 1: minute offense. You're not trying to go too fast, but 424 00:18:36,040 --> 00:18:38,520 Speaker 1: you're just uptempo so that you kind of force that 425 00:18:38,600 --> 00:18:40,679 Speaker 1: defense into a little bit more of a vanilla scheme. 426 00:18:41,320 --> 00:18:43,720 Speaker 1: That can help. But we talked about Sego and Barklay 427 00:18:43,760 --> 00:18:46,399 Speaker 1: like this. You have to create a run game. You 428 00:18:46,440 --> 00:18:49,920 Speaker 1: have to create opportunities for their defense and say, look, 429 00:18:49,960 --> 00:18:51,879 Speaker 1: they're they're loading up on the run. We got to 430 00:18:51,880 --> 00:18:54,080 Speaker 1: bring that extra safety in the box and clear up 431 00:18:54,080 --> 00:18:56,879 Speaker 1: the picture for Tomydavito. Now, I think he needs to 432 00:18:56,880 --> 00:18:58,960 Speaker 1: trust his pocket a little bit more. And we're saying 433 00:18:59,000 --> 00:19:00,440 Speaker 1: all that as we're talking about parties. 434 00:19:01,280 --> 00:19:02,600 Speaker 2: I know they give him eight sacks. That's what the 435 00:19:02,600 --> 00:19:06,040 Speaker 2: offensive actually was okay against him. It wasn't wasn't perfect 436 00:19:06,040 --> 00:19:07,399 Speaker 2: by any meaning, but it was okay. 437 00:19:07,760 --> 00:19:09,560 Speaker 1: Compared to what they have done this season. That might 438 00:19:09,560 --> 00:19:12,160 Speaker 1: have been their most complete game from a pass protection standpoint, 439 00:19:12,200 --> 00:19:14,840 Speaker 1: like they did a really good job on a lot 440 00:19:14,920 --> 00:19:17,080 Speaker 1: of different plays, which you know, you'd be really hard 441 00:19:17,119 --> 00:19:20,640 Speaker 1: to find that in previous games. So you know, offensively, 442 00:19:20,680 --> 00:19:22,080 Speaker 1: you've got to just move the chains. You've got to 443 00:19:22,119 --> 00:19:25,840 Speaker 1: get first downs, first downs. I think obviously with Michael Parsons, 444 00:19:27,000 --> 00:19:29,000 Speaker 1: got to attack them in different ways, like trap them 445 00:19:29,000 --> 00:19:31,040 Speaker 1: with a guard, you win them with a tight end. 446 00:19:31,400 --> 00:19:34,119 Speaker 1: You give them different looks, crack him from the outside 447 00:19:34,160 --> 00:19:36,760 Speaker 1: from a receiver standpoint, toss it outside of him, you 448 00:19:36,800 --> 00:19:38,680 Speaker 1: try to run at him and give him different things 449 00:19:38,680 --> 00:19:41,080 Speaker 1: to have to think about. Hopefully that makes him hesitate 450 00:19:41,119 --> 00:19:42,880 Speaker 1: a little bit, so he's not just putting his ear back. 451 00:19:42,960 --> 00:19:45,159 Speaker 1: But but it's not just him. You know, you've got 452 00:19:45,200 --> 00:19:47,320 Speaker 1: to play good ball, and I think that's one of 453 00:19:47,320 --> 00:19:49,639 Speaker 1: the things that giants. You can't turn the ball over 454 00:19:49,680 --> 00:19:52,000 Speaker 1: and you can't bite yourself in the foot or shoot 455 00:19:52,000 --> 00:19:54,399 Speaker 1: yourself in the foot on those certain situations. 456 00:19:54,480 --> 00:19:56,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, and those doubt that Dallas secondary likes to jump 457 00:19:56,440 --> 00:19:58,600 Speaker 2: past us too, So you got to be careful on 458 00:19:58,640 --> 00:20:00,600 Speaker 2: the coverage. 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I think before this injury, 469 00:20:22,359 --> 00:20:24,280 Speaker 1: there's you know, no question about it. Danie Jones is 470 00:20:24,280 --> 00:20:26,680 Speaker 1: coming back next year. He's the giants starting quarterback. He's 471 00:20:26,720 --> 00:20:28,120 Speaker 1: the franchise, he's the future. 472 00:20:28,000 --> 00:20:30,720 Speaker 2: And considentially he will be back next year. About it. 473 00:20:30,880 --> 00:20:31,119 Speaker 2: He is. 474 00:20:31,160 --> 00:20:33,119 Speaker 1: He's back next year. He is still the quarterback for 475 00:20:33,160 --> 00:20:35,639 Speaker 1: the Giants, and I think the injury doesn't change that, 476 00:20:35,760 --> 00:20:38,879 Speaker 1: but it definitely muddies the water from a standpoint, from 477 00:20:39,000 --> 00:20:40,919 Speaker 1: from the long term standpoint, like, you know, what do 478 00:20:41,000 --> 00:20:43,439 Speaker 1: we do because it's not just this injury, It's that 479 00:20:44,359 --> 00:20:47,439 Speaker 1: it's been multiple injuries. It's been ankles, it's been next 480 00:20:47,600 --> 00:20:50,520 Speaker 1: now it's knee. So it's it's not his fault. But 481 00:20:50,560 --> 00:20:53,200 Speaker 1: it's like Jimmy Garoppolo. The reason why they were drafting 482 00:20:53,240 --> 00:20:57,240 Speaker 1: quarterbacks in San Francisco, you know, multiple years in a row, 483 00:20:57,359 --> 00:20:59,240 Speaker 1: is because he could stay healthy. So if they can't 484 00:20:59,280 --> 00:21:01,639 Speaker 1: stay on the field, you have to as a GM 485 00:21:01,680 --> 00:21:03,280 Speaker 1: and as a coach, you have to have a plan B. 486 00:21:03,520 --> 00:21:05,320 Speaker 1: You have to have a plan B for the next 487 00:21:05,359 --> 00:21:08,000 Speaker 1: couple of years and for the future. So look, I 488 00:21:08,040 --> 00:21:10,280 Speaker 1: will say this, don't write the book is not over 489 00:21:10,320 --> 00:21:12,520 Speaker 1: on Daniel Jones. Like, this guy is tougher than he looks. 490 00:21:12,720 --> 00:21:14,680 Speaker 1: He's tougher than most people think and give him credit 491 00:21:14,800 --> 00:21:16,960 Speaker 1: for I have no doubt that he's going to come back. 492 00:21:17,000 --> 00:21:19,800 Speaker 1: And if you were to ask me what position has 493 00:21:19,840 --> 00:21:22,119 Speaker 1: the best chance to come back from an ACL injury 494 00:21:22,280 --> 00:21:24,760 Speaker 1: just as good, if not better than what they were before, 495 00:21:24,800 --> 00:21:27,720 Speaker 1: it's quarterback. You know, running back. Looks Saquon Barkley is 496 00:21:27,760 --> 00:21:30,040 Speaker 1: back and it's like he never never hurt his knee 497 00:21:30,040 --> 00:21:31,720 Speaker 1: a couple of years ago. It took him a little longer, 498 00:21:32,080 --> 00:21:34,160 Speaker 1: but we saw Joe Burrow come back from an ACL 499 00:21:34,240 --> 00:21:36,119 Speaker 1: and lead his team to the Super Bowl. So it 500 00:21:36,160 --> 00:21:38,159 Speaker 1: can be done and Daniel Jones can still be a 501 00:21:38,160 --> 00:21:40,760 Speaker 1: great player. The difference between a guy like Joe Burrow 502 00:21:40,800 --> 00:21:44,359 Speaker 1: and Daniel Jones. Is Burrow wins from the pocket. Daniel Jones, 503 00:21:44,720 --> 00:21:46,960 Speaker 1: A big part of his game is the fact that 504 00:21:47,000 --> 00:21:49,080 Speaker 1: he is a true running weapon. Can he get back 505 00:21:49,119 --> 00:21:52,080 Speaker 1: to that? Will he be that same running threat? Is 506 00:21:52,160 --> 00:21:54,680 Speaker 1: still tbd, But of course we're all wishing him the 507 00:21:54,680 --> 00:21:57,320 Speaker 1: best for speedy recovery. And I know he's going to 508 00:21:57,320 --> 00:22:00,680 Speaker 1: attack the rehab head on, and he's a tough kid. 509 00:22:00,760 --> 00:22:05,080 Speaker 1: So uh, I'm I'm not gonna bet against Daniel Jones 510 00:22:05,160 --> 00:22:06,879 Speaker 1: in this instance at all, and neither should you. 511 00:22:07,160 --> 00:22:09,359 Speaker 2: Howard Cross is ready to physically remove me from my 512 00:22:09,440 --> 00:22:13,439 Speaker 2: seat so I can wants by the way, so I'm up. 513 00:22:13,440 --> 00:22:15,159 Speaker 2: So we're gonna get out of your apologies for for 514 00:22:15,240 --> 00:22:17,280 Speaker 2: starting DBK late on Tuesday, that's on us. That's something 515 00:22:17,320 --> 00:22:18,720 Speaker 2: you want to finish watching some of the tape of 516 00:22:18,720 --> 00:22:20,879 Speaker 2: the Rhythm Game before you, so I know that that 517 00:22:20,880 --> 00:22:22,960 Speaker 2: that's on me. 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