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Speaker 1: Hey, six degrees listeners, Kevin becon here, I got a

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Speaker 1: treat for you this episode. This is the one and

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Speaker 1: only hilarious Patton oswaldt joins me for a conversation that

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Speaker 1: is funny, funny, funny, funny, but also extremely insightful. As

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Speaker 1: you probably know, this guy knows how to make you laugh.

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Speaker 1: What here is a little teaser. Patton may have ended

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Speaker 1: up on a different career path if not for his

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Speaker 1: very blunt dad. I think we got to thank them though,

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Speaker 1: because you know, the world needs this dude doing his

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Speaker 1: comedy thing and it's stick around. Also because we shine

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Speaker 1: a spotlight on a grassroots organization doing amazing work supporting

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Speaker 1: students throughout the entire year, not just in the back

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Speaker 1: to school sessions. Yeah, I haven't really been looking forward

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Speaker 1: to this one. I'm a big fan, so lean in.

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Speaker 1: I'm glad you're here. Patton Oswald, thank you so much

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Speaker 1: for being here with me.

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Speaker 2: Ken, thank you fix having me on.

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Speaker 1: Man. Hey, you know it's one of those weird like

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Speaker 1: I don't know I've are well. Of course, you know,

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Speaker 1: I play this dumb game where I try to figure

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Speaker 1: out connections between people. But I don't think that our

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Speaker 1: paths have crossed as far as I know, I don't

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Speaker 1: think we've been in the same thing, which is kind

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it is weird. We've never crossed directly. I'm sure

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Speaker 3: there is no more than a two or three person

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Speaker 3: My wife, Meredith Salinger, said that she this is back

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Speaker 3: in eighty six, so if you don't remember this, don't

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Speaker 3: even worry about it. She had just done a movie

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Speaker 3: she met you somewhere, either at a dinner or something,

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Speaker 3: and you were joking and like, oh, you just did

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Speaker 3: that movie with River Phoenix. I'm probably gonna play his

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Speaker 3: big brothers day.

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Speaker 1: That's probably I mean, I'm sure she's not lying. I mean,

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Speaker 1: you know, it's you know, that was such a you know,

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Speaker 1: could have been brothers for sure. Absolutely, yes, But the

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Speaker 1: fact that you have been I mean, I think you've

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Speaker 1: been in like two hundred movies or something like that.

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Speaker 1: It's great, it's it just blows my mind, and it

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Speaker 1: makes it even even weirder that we haven't been in

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Speaker 1: the same thing together. Well, but you know, life is long,

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Speaker 2: Life is long, and show business is weirdly small, so

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Speaker 2: eventually everybody coides with each other.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely, absolutely, thank you, thank you so much for being

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Speaker 1: here with me. You know, I want to I want

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Speaker 1: to first off say, I don't know why I have

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Speaker 1: this obsession with this. The people that listening to this podcast.

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Speaker 1: I've heard me mention this many times. But how do

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Speaker 1: you feel about your name? And can we talk a

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Speaker 1: little bit about it? About the genesis of that name.

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Speaker 3: Well, Daddy was a marine and he my mom wanted

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Speaker 2: Going to war or joining the military.

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Speaker 3: I know because I've seen the worst of it, and

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Speaker 1: Wow, Okay, yeah, that is a very I think that's

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Speaker 1: Sure sure, yeah, sure. So you said you have brothers

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Speaker 3: My dad my dad played sports in high school. He

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Speaker 3: like these dudes carried their own equipment and I don't

438
00:21:34,040 --> 00:21:35,800
Speaker 3: think they had more than a day in the studio,

439
00:21:36,160 --> 00:21:39,200
Speaker 3: and this feels really raw and really amazing.

440
00:21:39,600 --> 00:21:42,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure, and I think, I mean,

441
00:21:42,720 --> 00:21:45,840
Speaker 1: how do you feel do you feel that that the

442
00:21:45,920 --> 00:21:49,040
Speaker 1: possibilities of you know, we're just coming out of the strike,

443
00:21:49,160 --> 00:21:53,199
Speaker 1: so it's like, you know, kind of like, you know,

444
00:21:54,520 --> 00:21:57,960
Speaker 1: I almost hesitate to say, hey, streaming is awesome, but

445
00:21:58,560 --> 00:22:00,080
Speaker 1: there's a lot of there's a lot of in a

446
00:22:00,080 --> 00:22:01,600
Speaker 1: lot of ways it is. But I think that for

447
00:22:01,720 --> 00:22:05,000
Speaker 1: comedy it's been really good. I mean, it just seems like, yes,

448
00:22:05,320 --> 00:22:09,280
Speaker 1: so many people are getting so much more exposure to uh,

449
00:22:09,640 --> 00:22:12,960
Speaker 1: to so many more interesting comics. And I think that

450
00:22:13,240 --> 00:22:14,919
Speaker 1: I talk to a lot of people that have just

451
00:22:15,119 --> 00:22:17,880
Speaker 1: watched you know, one one special after another, and I've

452
00:22:17,880 --> 00:22:21,080
Speaker 1: discovered people that I just were not on my radar

453
00:22:21,119 --> 00:22:21,440
Speaker 1: at all.

454
00:22:22,080 --> 00:22:22,840
Speaker 4: It's it.

455
00:22:23,000 --> 00:22:24,320
Speaker 2: There's there's good and bad to it.

456
00:22:24,359 --> 00:22:27,000
Speaker 3: The good thing is, yes, newer voices can get themselves

457
00:22:27,040 --> 00:22:30,960
Speaker 3: seen way easier. They you know, there's there's more production

458
00:22:31,040 --> 00:22:34,800
Speaker 3: and post production ability in this thing than Orson Wells

459
00:22:34,840 --> 00:22:37,240
Speaker 3: had when he did Citizen K. Like that's the level we're.

460
00:22:37,119 --> 00:22:37,720
Speaker 2: At right now.

461
00:22:38,080 --> 00:22:41,320
Speaker 3: But the problem, the only drawback is one of the

462
00:22:41,359 --> 00:22:43,840
Speaker 3: advantages I had coming up in the I started in

463
00:22:43,920 --> 00:22:48,520
Speaker 3: eighty eight was I had my time in the wilderness.

464
00:22:48,600 --> 00:22:51,040
Speaker 3: I had my time getting to work on my craft

465
00:22:51,080 --> 00:22:53,760
Speaker 3: with no one watching me, and I could figure out

466
00:22:53,800 --> 00:22:57,120
Speaker 3: who I was before I made my debut. Now people

467
00:22:57,200 --> 00:23:01,400
Speaker 3: are literally filming and posting their first open mind on TikTok,

468
00:23:01,520 --> 00:23:05,159
Speaker 3: and sometimes early on you can find a voice that

469
00:23:05,280 --> 00:23:08,040
Speaker 3: works for you early on, but then you evolve beyond it.

470
00:23:08,080 --> 00:23:10,640
Speaker 3: But if you establish that that's your voice and that's

471
00:23:10,680 --> 00:23:13,479
Speaker 3: what's getting you to go viral and get a million clicks,

472
00:23:13,520 --> 00:23:16,000
Speaker 3: it's hard sometimes to break out of some of.

473
00:23:15,920 --> 00:23:16,880
Speaker 2: Your first choices.

474
00:23:17,520 --> 00:23:22,679
Speaker 3: And I do wish that there were certain young especially

475
00:23:22,720 --> 00:23:24,600
Speaker 3: young feens coming up there I think are really brilliant.

476
00:23:24,600 --> 00:23:27,000
Speaker 3: But it's like, oh, if you had just stayed in

477
00:23:27,000 --> 00:23:29,640
Speaker 3: the wilderness for one more year, you would have really

478
00:23:30,320 --> 00:23:33,040
Speaker 3: solidified who it is you are, you know what I mean?

479
00:23:33,280 --> 00:23:33,399
Speaker 1: Right?

480
00:23:33,560 --> 00:23:35,240
Speaker 3: But like I wish that for them. I don't wish

481
00:23:35,240 --> 00:23:38,280
Speaker 3: them to be obscure forever. I just want the time

482
00:23:38,280 --> 00:23:40,520
Speaker 3: for them to develop on their own terms and at

483
00:23:40,560 --> 00:23:41,280
Speaker 3: their own pace.

484
00:23:41,960 --> 00:23:44,639
Speaker 1: Right. Well, it's the ten thousand hours thing, right and then.

485
00:23:44,760 --> 00:23:49,360
Speaker 3: You absolutely why were the Beatles so great because they

486
00:23:49,400 --> 00:23:53,320
Speaker 3: did eight hours sets in strip clubs in Germany where

487
00:23:53,359 --> 00:23:56,040
Speaker 3: the audience wanted to murder them, so they learned to

488
00:23:56,080 --> 00:23:57,919
Speaker 3: get really good, really quick.

489
00:23:58,520 --> 00:24:01,040
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah. Have you ever have you ever been to

490
00:24:01,160 --> 00:24:06,480
Speaker 1: the Reaper Bomb? No, yeah I have. Yeah. I went

491
00:24:06,560 --> 00:24:10,840
Speaker 1: there actually with my son. We we took a father

492
00:24:11,040 --> 00:24:15,479
Speaker 1: son trip a few years ago. Uh you know he

493
00:24:16,080 --> 00:24:21,359
Speaker 1: my my uh his cousin. His cousin's dad said to me,

494
00:24:21,560 --> 00:24:25,399
Speaker 1: you know, I took a trip with with Whitney. We

495
00:24:25,480 --> 00:24:27,239
Speaker 1: just did like, you know, a father son thing. And

496
00:24:27,280 --> 00:24:30,000
Speaker 1: I was like, man, I want to do that. So

497
00:24:30,080 --> 00:24:32,320
Speaker 1: I asked my son, thinking that he would never say yes,

498
00:24:32,359 --> 00:24:34,040
Speaker 1: and he was like, yeah, sure, I'll go. I was like,

499
00:24:34,280 --> 00:24:35,840
Speaker 1: where do you want to go? And that was one

500
00:24:35,840 --> 00:24:38,800
Speaker 1: of the places he wanted to go, was Homburg. Not

501
00:24:38,800 --> 00:24:41,040
Speaker 1: not specifically to the Reaper Bomb, but just he just

502
00:24:41,080 --> 00:24:44,320
Speaker 1: wanted to get for some reason. I think maybe having

503
00:24:44,840 --> 00:24:47,840
Speaker 1: knowing something about the Beatles in those in those days

504
00:24:47,840 --> 00:24:50,520
Speaker 1: and stuff like that. He's a musician, and uh it was.

505
00:24:50,560 --> 00:24:54,320
Speaker 1: It was interesting. I mean it's still you know, you

506
00:24:54,400 --> 00:25:00,280
Speaker 1: can it still has enough of the the feel that

507
00:25:00,359 --> 00:25:04,760
Speaker 1: you can picture you can kind of fantasize about these

508
00:25:04,800 --> 00:25:09,560
Speaker 1: young dudes being here and playing these you know, crappy

509
00:25:09,600 --> 00:25:11,680
Speaker 1: little clubs and doing eight shows a day. As you've

510
00:25:11,680 --> 00:25:12,560
Speaker 1: pointed out.

511
00:25:12,600 --> 00:25:13,399
Speaker 2: Well, that's okay.

512
00:25:13,480 --> 00:25:15,439
Speaker 3: So you're a musician too when you go into a

513
00:25:15,480 --> 00:25:18,200
Speaker 3: space like that, because as a musician you play all

514
00:25:18,280 --> 00:25:20,720
Speaker 3: different spaces, Graham theaters.

515
00:25:20,359 --> 00:25:21,200
Speaker 2: Smaller clubs.

516
00:25:21,400 --> 00:25:23,320
Speaker 3: When you go into the Reaper Bond, was there also

517
00:25:23,400 --> 00:25:26,960
Speaker 3: that leftover vibe of like, oh, I here's how I

518
00:25:27,000 --> 00:25:29,960
Speaker 3: would have adjusted what it is that I do to

519
00:25:30,040 --> 00:25:32,600
Speaker 3: slay in this room, because sometimes you have to make adjustments,

520
00:25:32,880 --> 00:25:35,320
Speaker 3: oh hundred rooms. So did you get that feeling like, oh,

521
00:25:35,359 --> 00:25:37,320
Speaker 3: this is where the Beatles sound came out of because

522
00:25:37,320 --> 00:25:38,440
Speaker 3: they adjusted to this.

523
00:25:39,920 --> 00:25:42,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean that that And yeah, I mean if

524
00:25:42,560 --> 00:25:48,760
Speaker 1: they had grown up, you know, playing in you know,

525
00:25:48,960 --> 00:25:51,760
Speaker 1: concert halls, it would be right, be different. I mean,

526
00:25:51,880 --> 00:25:54,520
Speaker 1: be a different man, for sure. I mean, and I

527
00:25:54,560 --> 00:25:57,399
Speaker 1: think that also. You know, there's a lot of stuff

528
00:25:57,400 --> 00:25:59,240
Speaker 1: I don't want to get too deep in the in

529
00:25:59,320 --> 00:26:01,200
Speaker 1: the into the but there was a lot of stuff.

530
00:26:01,440 --> 00:26:05,879
Speaker 1: For instance, the the how they learned to be able

531
00:26:05,920 --> 00:26:10,720
Speaker 1: to hear each other and to be able to harmonize

532
00:26:11,040 --> 00:26:15,720
Speaker 1: and be that tight in loud clubs with terrible, terrible sound,

533
00:26:15,760 --> 00:26:18,840
Speaker 1: and oh my god, you know they monitors. I mean,

534
00:26:18,880 --> 00:26:21,240
Speaker 1: it's it's it's it's kind of it's kind of remarkable.

535
00:26:22,520 --> 00:26:25,000
Speaker 1: But so I want to ask you one more comedy

536
00:26:25,040 --> 00:26:26,840
Speaker 1: question and then I want to talk about some other stuff.

537
00:26:26,880 --> 00:26:32,600
Speaker 1: But I you know, there's a lot of kind of

538
00:26:32,640 --> 00:26:36,440
Speaker 1: back and forth when it comes to talking about comedy

539
00:26:36,520 --> 00:26:41,719
Speaker 1: and pain and painful experiences which you know, I know

540
00:26:41,800 --> 00:26:46,120
Speaker 1: you have, and and and the use there's a lot

541
00:26:46,119 --> 00:26:51,240
Speaker 1: of talk about the use of UH comedy to help

542
00:26:51,640 --> 00:26:57,119
Speaker 1: other people deal with pain, right, But my question is like,

543
00:26:57,880 --> 00:27:02,040
Speaker 1: how what does it do for you? And is it

544
00:27:02,440 --> 00:27:06,000
Speaker 1: when when you can take something that is UH. And

545
00:27:06,080 --> 00:27:08,919
Speaker 1: by the way, I come to this also thinking about

546
00:27:09,080 --> 00:27:11,480
Speaker 1: the comics that I know, they often seem like they're

547
00:27:12,440 --> 00:27:16,080
Speaker 1: coming a lot of them through difficult times or you know,

548
00:27:16,200 --> 00:27:22,480
Speaker 1: painful experiences, And I wonder if there's a if turning

549
00:27:22,640 --> 00:27:26,679
Speaker 1: something that is UH, you know, tragic or hard in

550
00:27:26,760 --> 00:27:30,560
Speaker 1: one's life and turning it around and making people laugh

551
00:27:31,080 --> 00:27:34,800
Speaker 1: is also has its own level of therapy for you.

552
00:27:35,359 --> 00:27:36,840
Speaker 1: That's That's what I'm curious about it.

553
00:27:37,320 --> 00:27:40,640
Speaker 3: Yes, it absolutely. I mean even before I was doing comedy,

554
00:27:40,800 --> 00:27:45,000
Speaker 3: I was using comedy. Maybe I wasn't necessarily writing it,

555
00:27:45,080 --> 00:27:47,760
Speaker 3: but I was very awkward in middle school, early years

556
00:27:47,760 --> 00:27:49,880
Speaker 3: of high school were kind of awkward. I would turn

557
00:27:49,960 --> 00:27:53,280
Speaker 3: to Monty Python to embrace the absurdity of the world,

558
00:27:53,359 --> 00:27:57,119
Speaker 3: or Richard Pryor and George Carlin to vet my rage,

559
00:27:57,320 --> 00:27:59,800
Speaker 3: and there was all kinds of ways that that was

560
00:27:59,840 --> 00:28:03,159
Speaker 3: a release, much same way as music and movies. I

561
00:28:03,320 --> 00:28:08,439
Speaker 3: just realized that I could, I guess I could emit

562
00:28:08,480 --> 00:28:11,040
Speaker 3: it in a way that could make other people laugh.

563
00:28:11,080 --> 00:28:12,800
Speaker 3: And when you make other people laugh, not only do

564
00:28:12,880 --> 00:28:15,120
Speaker 3: they are like, oh, I'm not the only one going

565
00:28:15,160 --> 00:28:17,880
Speaker 3: through this, but it's this nice little reassurance that, oh,

566
00:28:17,920 --> 00:28:19,400
Speaker 3: I'm not the only one going through this.

567
00:28:19,520 --> 00:28:20,320
Speaker 2: Like we are all.

568
00:28:21,119 --> 00:28:25,040
Speaker 3: We all encounter the kind of weirdness, and I mean,

569
00:28:25,160 --> 00:28:28,600
Speaker 3: life is about loss and that could be really scary,

570
00:28:28,720 --> 00:28:31,240
Speaker 3: but you can't turn away from that. You have to

571
00:28:32,680 --> 00:28:34,600
Speaker 3: somehow embrace it. And one of the ways I guess

572
00:28:34,640 --> 00:28:39,040
Speaker 3: to soften the blow of things being stripped away is

573
00:28:39,080 --> 00:28:42,800
Speaker 3: to make a joke about it. And because I have

574
00:28:42,840 --> 00:28:46,040
Speaker 3: a friend named Todd Glass who says, if you can

575
00:28:46,120 --> 00:28:49,000
Speaker 3: mock it, you can manage it. And I've always believed

576
00:28:49,000 --> 00:28:51,720
Speaker 3: in that, like that is what comedy is. I'm mocking it,

577
00:28:51,920 --> 00:28:55,080
Speaker 3: you know, That's what like if you read something wicked

578
00:28:55,120 --> 00:28:58,480
Speaker 3: This way comes by Ray Bradberry that the devil, the thing.

579
00:28:58,520 --> 00:29:00,680
Speaker 3: The devil cannot stand in that book because people making

580
00:29:00,760 --> 00:29:03,640
Speaker 3: jokes about him. It's like, no, no, I'm scary and

581
00:29:03,680 --> 00:29:05,960
Speaker 3: I'm the one thing you can't make jokes. And then

582
00:29:06,280 --> 00:29:08,400
Speaker 3: when the guy starts making jokes at it, starts to

583
00:29:09,040 --> 00:29:11,080
Speaker 3: lessen his power. And I think that's such a great

584
00:29:11,120 --> 00:29:13,400
Speaker 3: metaphor for the things in your life that are trying

585
00:29:13,440 --> 00:29:15,400
Speaker 3: to get you down. If you start making jokes about him,

586
00:29:15,400 --> 00:29:18,560
Speaker 3: they're like, well he doesn't like then you have you have.

587
00:29:18,520 --> 00:29:19,240
Speaker 2: Power over it.

588
00:29:19,760 --> 00:29:25,160
Speaker 1: Ah yeah yeah, so by so bye bye bye. But

589
00:29:25,720 --> 00:29:28,640
Speaker 1: by making other people laugh at things that are are,

590
00:29:29,200 --> 00:29:31,600
Speaker 1: you know, traditionally thought of as sad or or that

591
00:29:31,680 --> 00:29:34,920
Speaker 1: would normally be thought of his sess, you're you're able

592
00:29:35,000 --> 00:29:41,120
Speaker 1: to just to kind of confront things for yourself. By

593
00:29:41,360 --> 00:29:43,120
Speaker 1: I love that. If you can mock it, that I

594
00:29:43,320 --> 00:29:46,320
Speaker 1: I you can make it, you can manage it. If

595
00:29:46,360 --> 00:29:48,120
Speaker 1: you can mack it, you can manage it. Let me

596
00:29:48,160 --> 00:29:48,560
Speaker 1: write that.

597
00:29:48,600 --> 00:29:52,080
Speaker 2: Down exactly, seriously, write that down, so.

598
00:29:52,280 --> 00:29:57,560
Speaker 1: That but here you are. I mean, it's not just

599
00:29:58,320 --> 00:30:03,240
Speaker 1: you're acting. You're doing a tremendous amount of voice acting.

600
00:30:04,560 --> 00:30:09,520
Speaker 1: Grammy nominations, Emmy nominations. I think you've written a book

601
00:30:09,600 --> 00:30:10,480
Speaker 1: or two couple.

602
00:30:10,360 --> 00:30:11,640
Speaker 2: Written two memoirs.

603
00:30:12,040 --> 00:30:15,880
Speaker 1: Two memoirs. I mean that you are a busy guy.

604
00:30:16,040 --> 00:30:18,720
Speaker 1: Now now have you have you? Do you have a podcast?

605
00:30:19,800 --> 00:30:22,960
Speaker 3: I actually I had a podcast briefly during the pandemic.

606
00:30:23,040 --> 00:30:25,200
Speaker 2: My wife and I did one. But we got to

607
00:30:25,240 --> 00:30:27,760
Speaker 2: the point where it's I mean, doing a podcast, you know,

608
00:30:27,840 --> 00:30:30,200
Speaker 2: it's a lot of work. People think that, oh, you

609
00:30:30,320 --> 00:30:32,080
Speaker 2: just go and you blap. No, there's work.

610
00:30:31,880 --> 00:30:34,840
Speaker 3: Involved in doing the podcast, really, and it was just

611
00:30:34,880 --> 00:30:37,720
Speaker 3: getting to the point where it's like we're fighting a lot,

612
00:30:37,760 --> 00:30:40,440
Speaker 3: Like we're actually fighting on this podcast that was meant

613
00:30:40,520 --> 00:30:40,800
Speaker 3: to do.

614
00:30:41,080 --> 00:30:43,280
Speaker 2: So said, We did tip to two episodes. We're good.

615
00:30:43,360 --> 00:30:46,120
Speaker 3: I mean, I will eventually do a podcast again when

616
00:30:46,120 --> 00:30:48,840
Speaker 3: there's something I really want to connect about, you know,

617
00:30:48,880 --> 00:30:51,560
Speaker 3: like this what you're doing here, this feels very organic

618
00:30:51,600 --> 00:30:52,760
Speaker 3: and very like, oh here's what.

619
00:30:53,120 --> 00:30:55,840
Speaker 2: But I have to wait. You have to wait to

620
00:30:55,920 --> 00:30:57,280
Speaker 2: let that happen organically.

621
00:30:57,480 --> 00:31:00,200
Speaker 1: You know. So that you mentioned you mentioned your wife

622
00:31:00,240 --> 00:31:02,680
Speaker 1: doing a podcast with her. I just had my wife

623
00:31:02,880 --> 00:31:06,320
Speaker 1: as a guest on this podcast. Really was Yeah, which

624
00:31:06,400 --> 00:31:10,400
Speaker 1: was interesting because I don't I don't I don't tend

625
00:31:10,480 --> 00:31:11,240
Speaker 1: to interview her.

626
00:31:12,520 --> 00:31:14,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, it feels like an interrogation.

627
00:31:14,400 --> 00:31:17,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like an interrogation. Uh. And and you know

628
00:31:17,920 --> 00:31:22,720
Speaker 1: what was funny about it is that it was I thought, well,

629
00:31:22,720 --> 00:31:25,120
Speaker 1: this is gonna be kind of goofy and fun. We'll

630
00:31:25,200 --> 00:31:27,040
Speaker 1: just you know. It was actually one of the more

631
00:31:27,120 --> 00:31:30,480
Speaker 1: serious kind of ones that that we I mean, yeah, yeah,

632
00:31:30,600 --> 00:31:33,880
Speaker 1: which was kind of interesting. Plus we were also in

633
00:31:33,920 --> 00:31:36,160
Speaker 1: the same house in different rooms.

634
00:31:36,920 --> 00:31:39,080
Speaker 2: That's how we did it. We Oh my god, we'd

635
00:31:39,120 --> 00:31:40,480
Speaker 2: be in different rooms.

636
00:31:40,840 --> 00:31:44,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, god, yeah, that's hilarious.

637
00:31:44,680 --> 00:31:44,880
Speaker 1: Right.

638
00:31:44,960 --> 00:31:47,720
Speaker 3: But you guys is you guys Instagram videos during the

639
00:31:47,720 --> 00:31:50,480
Speaker 3: strike where you were cut pair of goofballs when you

640
00:31:50,520 --> 00:31:53,840
Speaker 3: were doing Saturday in the Park with Kazoo and you

641
00:31:53,920 --> 00:31:57,840
Speaker 3: have to don't step in. That was like there was

642
00:31:58,160 --> 00:31:59,800
Speaker 3: so much going on in that little clip.

643
00:32:00,240 --> 00:32:03,400
Speaker 1: It was great. Yet you know, we you know, I

644
00:32:03,440 --> 00:32:07,080
Speaker 1: realized about that doing that kind of stuff during the pandemic.

645
00:32:07,120 --> 00:32:10,520
Speaker 1: And the whole Instagram social media thing is that, you know,

646
00:32:10,600 --> 00:32:15,400
Speaker 1: long before social media, I'd love to make little movies.

647
00:32:15,480 --> 00:32:17,680
Speaker 1: I would send them to because you know, I'm on

648
00:32:17,760 --> 00:32:19,960
Speaker 1: the road or she's on the road out of town.

649
00:32:20,040 --> 00:32:22,040
Speaker 1: You know, I would always buy a video camera and

650
00:32:22,080 --> 00:32:25,000
Speaker 1: send little things home to the kids. Or or to her,

651
00:32:25,080 --> 00:32:27,000
Speaker 1: you know that, so that like that's sort of just

652
00:32:27,040 --> 00:32:29,880
Speaker 1: a natural extension that the social media thing of what

653
00:32:29,880 --> 00:32:32,200
Speaker 1: we already do to try to kind of. But it's

654
00:32:32,240 --> 00:32:37,600
Speaker 1: also you know, I got it. I'm a little bit

655
00:32:37,600 --> 00:32:41,280
Speaker 1: of a work a hawk. I gotta stay busy, create something. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: And that's what that that that's what we were able

657
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Speaker 1: to do during the pandemic, and it was fun to

658
00:32:46,920 --> 00:32:49,840
Speaker 1: make it. But the reason I bring up having a

659
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Speaker 1: podcast is that I you know, first, yes, you're right,

660
00:32:56,880 --> 00:33:00,800
Speaker 1: it is more work than they tell you. And being

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Speaker 1: on the other side of it, you know, having done

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Speaker 1: you know, you know, for forty five years I've been

663
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Speaker 1: doing interviews or something like that. To be on the

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Speaker 1: other side of it is a completely different thing and

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Speaker 1: one that you know, I haven't put in my ten

666
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Speaker 1: thousand hours, but I'm you know, I'm trying. Yeah, you know.

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Speaker 1: One of the things that I always think is there's

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Speaker 1: certain questions that I get time and time again, and

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Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm not going to ask those questions. And

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Speaker 1: then here we are and I'm just about to ask

671
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Speaker 1: you the same fucking question that I was hoping, you know,

672
00:33:33,480 --> 00:33:36,680
Speaker 1: never to never to get asked of all these things

673
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Speaker 1: that you do, between writing and comedy and acting and

674
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Speaker 1: voice acting, what is the one that you can't do without.

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Speaker 3: I mean, it's the one that brought me to the

676
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Speaker 3: dance at stand up comedy, and I'm not there are

677
00:33:55,160 --> 00:33:57,960
Speaker 3: certain people that do stand up comedy to get out

678
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Speaker 3: of stand up comedy and move to movies and TV shows.

679
00:34:00,720 --> 00:34:04,000
Speaker 3: I do movies and TV shows to keep my visibility

680
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Speaker 3: up there so I can do more stand up. I

681
00:34:05,760 --> 00:34:10,040
Speaker 3: will always do stand up movies and TV. Writing that

682
00:34:10,200 --> 00:34:12,640
Speaker 3: comes and goes, and I'm always grateful when it comes,

683
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Speaker 3: but I will in the end, I'll still be doing

684
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Speaker 3: stand up. It'll always be so I can keep doing

685
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Speaker 3: stand up.

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Speaker 2: That's okay, that's my focus.

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Speaker 1: That's a great that's a that's a perfect answer. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: And do you feel that Is it something that you

689
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Speaker 1: feel you are constantly trying to get better at or

690
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Speaker 1: is it just that you really love doing it and

691
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Speaker 1: you want to keep doing it? Is it? Do you

692
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Speaker 1: walk away from a you know, say, a special. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I don't know how many how many specials have you done?

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Speaker 2: I mean full like eight at this point.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, that's that's a that's a true I

696
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Speaker 1: don't think there's a lot of people that have done

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Speaker 1: eight specials, have they? I mean, that's a tremendous amount.

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Speaker 2: Of it's a lot.

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Speaker 1: I mean a lot.

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Speaker 3: The thing with the here's any comedian will tell you this,

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Speaker 3: And I'm sure you've experienced this as a musician. When

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00:35:03,200 --> 00:35:06,839
Speaker 3: I record a special, like a week to two weeks after,

703
00:35:07,040 --> 00:35:10,080
Speaker 3: I suddenly think of, oh, if I had cut this

704
00:35:10,120 --> 00:35:11,440
Speaker 3: one part out of the bit, it would have been

705
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Speaker 3: better if I had done this one thing. So I'm

706
00:35:14,120 --> 00:35:16,120
Speaker 3: sure you've laid down an album and then a week

707
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Speaker 3: later you're like if we oh dead like and it

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Speaker 3: drives you crazy.

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Speaker 1: I don't do it all the time. And you know,

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Speaker 1: part of the part of the reason that you realize

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Speaker 1: that is because you start playing the songs out yes,

712
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Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden you go, you know,

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Speaker 1: this actually should be like two or three bpm faster,

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Speaker 1: and then the song grooves like in a way that

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Speaker 1: it never did, or you think one hundred percent yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean yeah, I mean it's also I mean, listen,

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Speaker 1: I bet that think it applies to acting too. I

718
00:35:47,080 --> 00:35:49,920
Speaker 1: like to say that, you know, I figure out scenes

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Speaker 1: when I'm in the van on the way home.

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Speaker 2: You know, I go, that's got to drive you crazy.

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Speaker 1: It does.

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Speaker 2: We're like that, why didn't I own my it totally does?

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Speaker 1: It totally does. But that's that's part of the process,

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Speaker 1: you know. You can't Oh yeah, yeah, but you apply.

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Speaker 3: I mean again, I want to keep doing stand up, yes,

726
00:36:07,719 --> 00:36:09,360
Speaker 3: because I love doing it, And yes, I want to

727
00:36:09,400 --> 00:36:12,319
Speaker 3: get better that there's people coming up that no one

728
00:36:12,320 --> 00:36:15,239
Speaker 3: knows about yet that are amazing, that keep inspiring me.

729
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Speaker 3: I want to keep getting better at what it is

730
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Speaker 3: I do. And what can I talk about that that

731
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Speaker 3: shouldn't be funny that I can make funny? How can

732
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Speaker 3: I what can I get away with? I mean, I

733
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Speaker 3: just I'm a big believer in that. Be wary of

734
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Speaker 3: someone who goes, I've been doing this for thirty years,

735
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Speaker 3: when in actuality, they've done it for one year and

736
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Speaker 3: they repeated that year twenty nine times. Like I want

737
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Speaker 3: to actually do thirty different, constantly growing, evolving years. And

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Speaker 3: I'm sure we know people that are like, you've done

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Speaker 3: this one year and you kind of repeated that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, you're right, You're absolutely right.

741
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Speaker 3: We've met that kind of person, you know, But especially again,

742
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Speaker 3: I'm a big movie buff you take weird lefts and writes.

743
00:37:00,320 --> 00:37:03,480
Speaker 3: With your acting career, you are always like, oh, this

744
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Speaker 3: might not work.

745
00:37:04,280 --> 00:37:06,799
Speaker 2: I'm gonna do this. Let's see what this does.

746
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Speaker 1: You know what I mean? I for better or for worse?

747
00:37:10,280 --> 00:37:13,239
Speaker 1: That is something that I do. That's it true?

748
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Speaker 2: Hey, same with me.

749
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Speaker 3: There's been times I'm like, I'm gonna try. Oh good

750
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Speaker 3: lord God, why did I sig you for that?

751
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Speaker 1: Yeah?

752
00:37:19,719 --> 00:37:21,320
Speaker 2: But that's what the people makes it exciting.

753
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Speaker 1: Is there anything else that isn't entertainment related that you

754
00:37:24,920 --> 00:37:28,839
Speaker 1: do in your spare time? And are what's your other?

755
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Speaker 1: Or is this all where it gets your relaxation?

756
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Speaker 3: It feels relaxing doing it. It's not that I don't

757
00:37:34,760 --> 00:37:37,200
Speaker 3: have a life. I still hang out with my daughter,

758
00:37:37,320 --> 00:37:40,239
Speaker 3: my wife, I read a lot, I hang out with

759
00:37:40,280 --> 00:37:44,520
Speaker 3: my friends. But it's still it's all revolves around creating stuff.

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Speaker 3: To me, it just feels fun. I'm not like, oh God,

761
00:37:47,520 --> 00:37:50,680
Speaker 3: I gotta go do this. It's like, let me relax by.

762
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Speaker 2: Going on stage and doing ten minutes. That is relaxing

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Speaker 2: to me.

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Speaker 1: You know you also have a I think a lot

774
00:38:35,040 --> 00:38:40,360
Speaker 1: of people have noticed and completely respect your you know,

775
00:38:40,400 --> 00:38:45,239
Speaker 1: your activism and use your platform try a light on

776
00:38:45,480 --> 00:38:49,880
Speaker 1: all kinds of really important things that it just demonstrates

777
00:38:49,880 --> 00:38:55,080
Speaker 1: a lot of compassion and understanding and caring about about

778
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Speaker 1: the world. But where do you think that comes from?

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Speaker 2: I mean, I'm still very very aware and very much

780
00:39:03,120 --> 00:39:06,279
Speaker 2: remember everyone that helped me out coming up, all the

781
00:39:06,280 --> 00:39:10,280
Speaker 2: little moments of grace and when someone else like stepped

782
00:39:10,320 --> 00:39:11,960
Speaker 2: up to help me out when they didn't need to.

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Speaker 3: You know, I always say, and this is a paraphrase

784
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Speaker 3: of what Roger Ebert always said, I never cry in

785
00:39:18,280 --> 00:39:21,279
Speaker 3: movies when things are sad. What makes me cry is

786
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Speaker 3: when someone decides to step up and help someone else out.

787
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Speaker 3: That is like to me because it happens so rarely

788
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Speaker 3: in our real lives. A lot at least it seems

789
00:39:31,120 --> 00:39:33,200
Speaker 3: to be these days. So when someone's like, no, I'm

790
00:39:33,239 --> 00:39:37,000
Speaker 3: gonna step up and help people out, that always really.

791
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Speaker 2: Lands with me. So why not pass that on?

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Speaker 3: If anything, do it for the selfish reason of it

793
00:39:41,880 --> 00:39:43,759
Speaker 3: makes it a better world for me to live in.

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Speaker 3: If you're totally self centered, then do it for that reason.

795
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Speaker 3: But I mean, it just feels like you didn't do

796
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Speaker 3: this by yourself. Give a little bit back, Yes, nothing

797
00:39:55,239 --> 00:39:58,279
Speaker 3: wrong with making money and being successful. Give a little

798
00:39:58,280 --> 00:40:00,680
Speaker 3: bit of it back. Just put it back out circulation.

799
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Speaker 3: Why do you want to sit on your pile and

800
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Speaker 3: just stare at it? It doesn't make sense, all right?

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Speaker 1: Right, well listen, I think that's a perfect segue to

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Speaker 1: bring on Ron Fitzsimmons from Alice's Kids, which is this

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Speaker 1: nonprofit that you have, you know, decided to highlight here today. Yes, yes, Ron,

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Speaker 1: thank you so much for coming to the show. I

805
00:40:23,120 --> 00:40:25,640
Speaker 1: know that you've met Stacey from six degrees dot org.

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Speaker 1: You are based out of Alexandria, correct or somewhere in that.

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Speaker 4: Area, Mount Vernon, Techno, Vernon.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, right, right, and and and I've read some stuff

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Speaker 1: about what Alice's Kids is, But maybe you could just

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Speaker 1: give us a give us a you know, a thumbnail

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Speaker 1: on on what it is and how you started it

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Speaker 1: and where the name comes from.

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Speaker 4: Sure well, first of all, Alice was my mother who

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Speaker 4: has passed. The idea came basically from my childhood. We

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Speaker 4: had a very rough childhood living up in West Islip,

816
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Speaker 4: New York, and my father abandoned us in nineteen sixty three,

817
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Speaker 4: I believe, and we were forced to go on the

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Speaker 4: welfare state system up in New York, bringing in two

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Speaker 4: hundred dollars a month. My mother wanted to stay in

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Speaker 4: the same neighborhood. It was in middle class town. She

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Speaker 4: wouldn't move to what was then called the projects, I think,

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Speaker 4: and so right away we started to stick out like

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Speaker 4: a short thumb. We became the welfare kids in West isslife.

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Speaker 2: We would go to.

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Speaker 4: School wearing the same shirt every day, not being able

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Speaker 4: to participate in field trips things like that. Every once

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Speaker 4: in a while my mother would I'm assuming illegally go

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Speaker 4: out and pick up a few extra dollars washing clothes,

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Speaker 4: ironing clothes, and she'd come home very excited to announce

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Speaker 4: that we were going shopping. Forget these these days when

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Speaker 4: she would say, let's go to EJ. Corvette's and get

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Speaker 4: that baseball blood, or to my sister, let's go get

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Speaker 4: I'll ever forget this. Let's go get that new record

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Speaker 4: by those kids in England. So it's funny you were

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Speaker 4: talking about the Beatles that lifted us, and it made

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Speaker 4: us proud. And the next day I couldn't wait to

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Speaker 4: go to school with my new Converse sneakers with a

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Speaker 4: new Dy Crockett chirp. Jump ahead many years and I

839
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Speaker 4: was between careers or pondering careers, And one day I

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Speaker 4: was substitute teaching at Mount Ernan High School and a

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Speaker 4: kid was crying in the corner and I asked one

842
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Speaker 4: of her friends what was happening. She said, well, Latrice

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Speaker 4: can't go to the prom. And I said oh, and

844
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Speaker 4: she said yeah, she can't afford it. My mother doesn't

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Speaker 4: work and she doesn't have the fifty dollars. I went

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Speaker 4: down and pay for the ticket. But then I had

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Speaker 4: a thought, uh, And I started walking around to teachers

848
00:43:03,840 --> 00:43:06,000
Speaker 4: in the school and I started asking them do you

849
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Speaker 4: pay for things like this all the time? And they said,

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Speaker 4: of course, we pay for books, we pay for art supplies,

851
00:43:14,280 --> 00:43:18,600
Speaker 4: we pay for field trips, yearbooks, whatever it is. So

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00:43:18,719 --> 00:43:22,240
Speaker 4: this start, the thoughts started to evolve about creating charity

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Speaker 4: that does that for children. I went to all the

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Speaker 4: other charities in the area and I asked them if

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Speaker 4: they do things like that, like do you put out

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Speaker 4: fifty dollars for a back to school uniform? And they

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Speaker 4: all said no. One person said they don't have petty

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Speaker 4: cash drawers. So we created Alice's Kids with the thought

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Speaker 4: that we would be the petty cash drawer for these

860
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Speaker 4: kids who just needed a little bit of a lift.

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Speaker 4: It started off very slow. This was about twelve years ago,

862
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Speaker 4: and the big issue was how do you find the kids?

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Speaker 4: Where are these kids who indeed this kind of help.

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Speaker 4: So we started to establish a network of teachers in

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Speaker 4: the Moulverne area who would refer to us kids that

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Speaker 4: needed some help, and we would give them gift cards.

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Speaker 4: Everything exploded three years later when a columnist named Teresa

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Speaker 4: Vargas of the Washington Post heard about us, and she

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Speaker 4: wrote a column and overnight we exploded nationally.

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Speaker 1: The media helping out, the media doing something good, positive exactly.

871
00:44:40,200 --> 00:44:42,839
Speaker 4: It's crazy what happened that weekend. I think we raised

872
00:44:42,880 --> 00:44:45,520
Speaker 4: about three hundred thousand dollars our budget at that point

873
00:44:45,600 --> 00:44:50,160
Speaker 4: was about twenty five thousand dollars. Wowow money Cake kept.

874
00:44:51,640 --> 00:44:56,360
Speaker 4: And so immediately we became a national charity because we

875
00:44:56,400 --> 00:45:00,680
Speaker 4: started getting money from across the country and and we

876
00:45:00,719 --> 00:45:06,200
Speaker 4: started getting increase from people in Iowa and Nebraska, teachers

877
00:45:06,200 --> 00:45:09,040
Speaker 4: and social workers saying, hey, can I send you a request?

878
00:45:09,600 --> 00:45:12,880
Speaker 4: M So we started fulfilling them.

879
00:45:13,320 --> 00:45:13,560
Speaker 2: Yeah.

880
00:45:13,600 --> 00:45:17,640
Speaker 4: So that's basically how it started. And shortly thereafter after

881
00:45:17,680 --> 00:45:22,120
Speaker 4: we started, I got an email that said a guy

882
00:45:22,200 --> 00:45:23,840
Speaker 4: named Patton Oswell had.

883
00:45:23,680 --> 00:45:27,239
Speaker 2: Donated that was gonna be my next amount of money.

884
00:45:27,520 --> 00:45:32,000
Speaker 1: Okay, no, it's fine, no, no go, let's hear. Yeah.

885
00:45:32,840 --> 00:45:35,440
Speaker 4: So I was hauling and every time we get a donation,

886
00:45:35,640 --> 00:45:39,879
Speaker 4: I get an email, and I saw a donation from

887
00:45:39,920 --> 00:45:44,959
Speaker 4: Patton Oswell, and I knew the name. I'm going Pat Malls.

888
00:45:45,040 --> 00:45:48,440
Speaker 4: Of course, my age, our first thing is Lee Harvey.

889
00:45:48,480 --> 00:45:51,000
Speaker 4: You think of Lee Harvey for some reason, which I'm

890
00:45:51,040 --> 00:45:55,000
Speaker 4: sure you get that bad. Yeah, but I'm thinking, thinking, think,

891
00:45:55,080 --> 00:45:57,920
Speaker 4: And of course I didn't google it, but I recall

892
00:45:58,040 --> 00:46:01,600
Speaker 4: asking my son, one of my sons. You know Patton Oswald.

893
00:46:01,800 --> 00:46:05,320
Speaker 4: I know that name. He's the voice of Remy in

894
00:46:05,440 --> 00:46:09,439
Speaker 4: Ratiituey he's this, and he's this. So I flipped out.

895
00:46:10,040 --> 00:46:15,600
Speaker 4: I emailed him and thanked him profusely, and much to

896
00:46:15,680 --> 00:46:21,399
Speaker 4: my shock, within like an hour, he responded, and I'm

897
00:46:21,400 --> 00:46:26,239
Speaker 4: going Holy hell, and he said, no problem, man, like

898
00:46:26,280 --> 00:46:28,719
Speaker 4: what you do and then he said the magic word.

899
00:46:28,760 --> 00:46:31,000
Speaker 4: He said, let me know if there's anything else I

900
00:46:31,040 --> 00:46:36,760
Speaker 4: can do. And so we went from there, and because

901
00:46:36,800 --> 00:46:42,240
Speaker 4: of Patton, Steve Carrell learned about us, and so Steve

902
00:46:42,400 --> 00:46:49,040
Speaker 4: is now a big supporter. Eric Roberts, you know, Alan Toodick.

903
00:46:49,239 --> 00:46:51,440
Speaker 4: I mean, we've got a lot of good support out

904
00:46:51,440 --> 00:46:53,800
Speaker 4: there because Pat kind of started that train.

905
00:46:53,920 --> 00:46:58,160
Speaker 1: Though, Patton, what was it about this one or maybe

906
00:46:58,200 --> 00:47:01,760
Speaker 1: it's one of many, many, many causes that you decide

907
00:47:01,760 --> 00:47:04,399
Speaker 1: to support, But was it something specific that you read

908
00:47:04,760 --> 00:47:05,760
Speaker 1: or what was that moment?

909
00:47:05,920 --> 00:47:09,359
Speaker 3: Like, yeah, the thing that really really landed with me.

910
00:47:10,040 --> 00:47:11,959
Speaker 3: And it's something that because I was never really able

911
00:47:12,000 --> 00:47:16,160
Speaker 3: to articulate this, but it's very disturbing how in this

912
00:47:16,280 --> 00:47:18,640
Speaker 3: country and you don't really see this in other countries

913
00:47:18,680 --> 00:47:24,760
Speaker 3: as much. There's there's a weird level of poverty shaming

914
00:47:24,800 --> 00:47:27,040
Speaker 3: that goes on almost we treat poverty like it's some

915
00:47:27,160 --> 00:47:31,280
Speaker 3: kind of infectious disease. That it will you'll somehow catch

916
00:47:31,320 --> 00:47:35,399
Speaker 3: poverty by you know, so you you you point it out,

917
00:47:35,480 --> 00:47:37,160
Speaker 3: you make fun of it to like almost drive it

918
00:47:37,200 --> 00:47:40,960
Speaker 3: away from you. And I think that that causes it

919
00:47:41,040 --> 00:47:43,719
Speaker 3: causes a lot of problems later on in life. I mean,

920
00:47:43,760 --> 00:47:45,920
Speaker 3: I think that it causes a lot of people that

921
00:47:46,360 --> 00:47:49,120
Speaker 3: you see a lot of people now that there's a

922
00:47:49,160 --> 00:47:54,320
Speaker 3: lot of millionaires that I think did experience some poverty

923
00:47:54,360 --> 00:47:58,319
Speaker 3: early on and now are vengeful about it and are about, like,

924
00:47:59,400 --> 00:48:01,920
Speaker 3: I want to get rid of social services because I

925
00:48:02,040 --> 00:48:03,680
Speaker 3: had to use them, and I bet I could have

926
00:48:03,719 --> 00:48:05,760
Speaker 3: made it without him, but I never got the chance.

927
00:48:06,040 --> 00:48:07,400
Speaker 2: So I've got to feel.

928
00:48:07,120 --> 00:48:10,960
Speaker 3: Like they're all trying to erase whatever shame was heaped

929
00:48:10,960 --> 00:48:13,319
Speaker 3: on them by other people. And if we could get

930
00:48:13,760 --> 00:48:16,680
Speaker 3: so this whole idea of doing it anonymously so that

931
00:48:16,719 --> 00:48:21,040
Speaker 3: these kids, so that these kids can have a childhood,

932
00:48:21,480 --> 00:48:24,160
Speaker 3: so they can just have a childhood and some dignity.

933
00:48:24,600 --> 00:48:29,160
Speaker 3: I don't think he realized the astronomical dividends that pays

934
00:48:29,200 --> 00:48:34,240
Speaker 3: off later in terms of just the mental and psychological

935
00:48:34,280 --> 00:48:35,480
Speaker 3: health of the population.

936
00:48:35,719 --> 00:48:39,080
Speaker 2: So that the fact that Ron and his organization were really.

937
00:48:38,960 --> 00:48:42,800
Speaker 3: Able to pinpoint that, and also that Ron faced a

938
00:48:42,840 --> 00:48:44,719
Speaker 3: lot of the stuff that he was just describing that

939
00:48:44,760 --> 00:48:47,040
Speaker 3: he grew up with, and he remembered it. Rather than

940
00:48:47,520 --> 00:48:50,960
Speaker 3: trying to tamp it down or attack it. He was like, no,

941
00:48:51,280 --> 00:48:54,720
Speaker 3: we're going to this happens, and we're going to actually

942
00:48:54,800 --> 00:49:00,000
Speaker 3: fix this problem. And it just the amount of empathy

943
00:49:00,080 --> 00:49:02,040
Speaker 3: and that really struck me.

944
00:49:02,960 --> 00:49:05,919
Speaker 1: Yeah, and it's interesting too because as you point out,

945
00:49:06,320 --> 00:49:08,520
Speaker 1: you know, you could go, you could go in the

946
00:49:08,520 --> 00:49:12,240
Speaker 1: other direction, but clearly ron you you having having taken

947
00:49:12,400 --> 00:49:15,120
Speaker 1: taken that experience of yours. Now I'm actually struck with

948
00:49:15,160 --> 00:49:17,440
Speaker 1: a lot of people that I do connect with, uh

949
00:49:17,840 --> 00:49:21,640
Speaker 1: on the on the on this podcast, who were who

950
00:49:21,719 --> 00:49:24,520
Speaker 1: were involved with those causes and and they do have

951
00:49:24,600 --> 00:49:28,800
Speaker 1: a personal connection like like yours to this thing literally

952
00:49:28,880 --> 00:49:33,080
Speaker 1: being that kid you know, on welfare with a with

953
00:49:33,120 --> 00:49:36,480
Speaker 1: a single mom who just you know, really could use

954
00:49:37,160 --> 00:49:40,319
Speaker 1: a baseball glove or whatever it is. You know, it's

955
00:49:40,360 --> 00:49:43,000
Speaker 1: it's it's amazing that you've taken that and and turned

956
00:49:43,000 --> 00:49:46,640
Speaker 1: it into this this thing. Alice's kids, what would you

957
00:49:46,680 --> 00:49:50,000
Speaker 1: say elaborate that kind of yes, please, please please explain.

958
00:49:51,160 --> 00:49:52,840
Speaker 4: When we were kids, we did get a lot of

959
00:49:52,840 --> 00:49:56,840
Speaker 4: well intentioned charities coming to our doorstep giving those boxes

960
00:49:56,880 --> 00:49:59,839
Speaker 4: of clothes and food and stuff. But honestly, but while

961
00:49:59,840 --> 00:50:03,120
Speaker 4: we appreciate it, it was embarrassing, especially when they take your

962
00:50:03,200 --> 00:50:07,919
Speaker 4: picture and put in the newslettersh Like Patton said, there's

963
00:50:07,920 --> 00:50:12,440
Speaker 4: a lot of shaming. So what we do is we

964
00:50:12,480 --> 00:50:15,160
Speaker 4: get a request from the teacher, let's say in Des Moines,

965
00:50:15,719 --> 00:50:18,640
Speaker 4: asking for us to for a dick Sporting Goods card

966
00:50:18,880 --> 00:50:22,640
Speaker 4: gift card for you know, for shoes, for soccer shoes.

967
00:50:23,440 --> 00:50:25,680
Speaker 4: We get the request and within twenty four hours we

968
00:50:25,760 --> 00:50:29,400
Speaker 4: send a gift card to the teacher. The teacher points

969
00:50:29,440 --> 00:50:34,319
Speaker 4: out the gift card, gives it to the parent. Avery

970
00:50:34,360 --> 00:50:38,800
Speaker 4: can then turn around to the child to say, hey, Johnny,

971
00:50:39,600 --> 00:50:41,719
Speaker 4: let's go to Dick's Sporting Goods this weekend and get

972
00:50:41,760 --> 00:50:45,400
Speaker 4: those soccer cleats or get those sneakers. The kid doesn't know,

973
00:50:45,480 --> 00:50:48,560
Speaker 4: like Patten said, that they're getting charity. Yeah, they look

974
00:50:48,600 --> 00:50:51,319
Speaker 4: at mom and say, oh my gosh, Mom, thanks so much.

975
00:50:52,200 --> 00:50:56,520
Speaker 4: The teacher has a chance to shine. The kid goes shopping.

976
00:50:56,840 --> 00:50:59,279
Speaker 4: You know how many of these kids would never see

977
00:50:59,280 --> 00:51:02,680
Speaker 4: a Dick's Sporting Goods if it wasn't for that gift card.

978
00:51:03,360 --> 00:51:05,960
Speaker 3: So it doesn't interest and the parents get to have

979
00:51:06,040 --> 00:51:09,120
Speaker 3: some dignity, right, Like everyone.

980
00:51:08,760 --> 00:51:12,400
Speaker 2: Wins in this. It's so it just again the payoff

981
00:51:12,480 --> 00:51:13,600
Speaker 2: is exponential.

982
00:51:14,719 --> 00:51:16,759
Speaker 1: What are the types of things that the kids are

983
00:51:16,840 --> 00:51:18,600
Speaker 1: most in need of that you're seeing are most in

984
00:51:18,640 --> 00:51:20,360
Speaker 1: need of these days? Curious about that.

985
00:51:20,960 --> 00:51:24,759
Speaker 4: Well, it's it's clothes. Kids always need clothes. You know,

986
00:51:24,800 --> 00:51:28,799
Speaker 4: there was growing out of clothes. Or we see a

987
00:51:28,800 --> 00:51:31,279
Speaker 4: lot of school uniforms. A lot of schools are requiring

988
00:51:31,360 --> 00:51:34,479
Speaker 4: school uniforms and kids are staying home because they can't

989
00:51:34,520 --> 00:51:40,600
Speaker 4: afford school uniforms. We just got a request the other

990
00:51:40,719 --> 00:51:45,000
Speaker 4: day for a kid who got accepted into a competition

991
00:51:45,160 --> 00:51:49,840
Speaker 4: for future educators, but they required a certain dress mode

992
00:51:50,680 --> 00:51:54,520
Speaker 4: and her power was unemployed and she couldn't afford the

993
00:51:54,640 --> 00:51:58,040
Speaker 4: dress code uniform. So he paid I think it was

994
00:51:58,080 --> 00:52:01,759
Speaker 4: fifty dollars we paid for that uniform. It could be

995
00:52:01,800 --> 00:52:07,000
Speaker 4: a band outfit. Yeah, yesterday it was a girl who's

996
00:52:07,239 --> 00:52:12,319
Speaker 4: growing too quickly and she she's very embarrassed by her

997
00:52:12,440 --> 00:52:16,759
Speaker 4: large chest. When she goes to physical education. She has

998
00:52:16,800 --> 00:52:20,160
Speaker 4: a horrible bra and she's you know, she's very embarrassed

999
00:52:20,160 --> 00:52:22,239
Speaker 4: when she asked to do jumping jacks. This is an

1000
00:52:22,280 --> 00:52:25,759
Speaker 4: actual request that we got we paid for two bras

1001
00:52:26,440 --> 00:52:30,279
Speaker 4: was seventy five dollars. It was nothing to us, but

1002
00:52:31,880 --> 00:52:34,640
Speaker 4: it's a it's a it's a game changer. And you know,

1003
00:52:35,520 --> 00:52:38,520
Speaker 4: people talk about kids want new sneakers and stuff like that.

1004
00:52:39,040 --> 00:52:43,319
Speaker 4: What people don't understand is that these kids who were

1005
00:52:43,360 --> 00:52:47,600
Speaker 4: already stigmatized, they don't they don't want to stand out.

1006
00:52:48,600 --> 00:52:52,280
Speaker 4: They want to blend in. So when they go to school,

1007
00:52:52,280 --> 00:52:55,319
Speaker 4: they're not going around showing off their new shirt necessarily.

1008
00:52:56,200 --> 00:52:58,200
Speaker 4: They just want to blend in. They don't want to

1009
00:52:58,200 --> 00:53:01,600
Speaker 4: be stigmatized by the bully in that school.

1010
00:53:02,960 --> 00:53:07,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, and also you were pointing out these there are

1011
00:53:07,520 --> 00:53:15,160
Speaker 3: some exceptionally talented kids who get opportunities academically athletically, but

1012
00:53:15,440 --> 00:53:18,800
Speaker 3: then that opportunity gets stimy because they can't afford the equipment.

1013
00:53:18,960 --> 00:53:22,600
Speaker 3: They have the ability, and then that ability gets thwarted

1014
00:53:22,640 --> 00:53:24,520
Speaker 3: and nipped in the bud because then they can't afford it.

1015
00:53:24,600 --> 00:53:26,120
Speaker 2: So especially when.

1016
00:53:26,000 --> 00:53:30,759
Speaker 3: Like this person made the national marching band but cannot well,

1017
00:53:31,320 --> 00:53:33,720
Speaker 3: it definitely paid for that stuff because that's a talent

1018
00:53:34,120 --> 00:53:37,680
Speaker 3: that's just going to feed their self esteem and help

1019
00:53:37,719 --> 00:53:40,240
Speaker 3: them see the world. You know, like that those really

1020
00:53:40,280 --> 00:53:41,239
Speaker 3: really land.

1021
00:53:41,520 --> 00:53:46,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's amazing that is amazing. Well, Ron, what would

1022
00:53:46,080 --> 00:53:49,800
Speaker 1: you what would be the what would be the best

1023
00:53:49,920 --> 00:53:52,319
Speaker 1: way for I mean, I'm sure that there's a we

1024
00:53:52,360 --> 00:53:55,040
Speaker 1: can talk about where people can go to donate. Is

1025
00:53:55,040 --> 00:53:59,200
Speaker 1: there also opportunities for volunteerism or are you also on

1026
00:53:59,360 --> 00:54:02,719
Speaker 1: the UH website looking for people, because I bet you

1027
00:54:02,719 --> 00:54:05,200
Speaker 1: you're gonna get flooded with people calling and saying I

1028
00:54:05,239 --> 00:54:07,360
Speaker 1: know a kid that needs this, and how can people

1029
00:54:07,440 --> 00:54:10,040
Speaker 1: help out? Give us the This is the call to action?

1030
00:54:10,840 --> 00:54:14,200
Speaker 4: Okay, many ways. Our website is Alice's Kids dot Org.

1031
00:54:15,440 --> 00:54:17,640
Speaker 4: You go to the website and clear as day, there's

1032
00:54:17,680 --> 00:54:21,719
Speaker 4: a donate button. Every dollar that we raise, you know,

1033
00:54:21,840 --> 00:54:25,640
Speaker 4: will go into that one pot. The more money we raised,

1034
00:54:25,920 --> 00:54:27,359
Speaker 4: the more kids we can help.

1035
00:54:27,400 --> 00:54:28,160
Speaker 2: It's that simple.

1036
00:54:28,400 --> 00:54:30,720
Speaker 4: And we've done very well in the past years because

1037
00:54:30,760 --> 00:54:33,680
Speaker 4: of Patten and others. You know, a budget a few

1038
00:54:33,760 --> 00:54:36,320
Speaker 4: years ago was about one hundred and fifty thousand dollars.

1039
00:54:36,360 --> 00:54:40,319
Speaker 4: Now it's one point two million dollars. In fact, I'd

1040
00:54:40,320 --> 00:54:43,279
Speaker 4: have to say that big chunk of that was at

1041
00:54:43,440 --> 00:54:45,920
Speaker 4: one two hundred and fifty thousand dollars for us on

1042
00:54:46,040 --> 00:54:47,520
Speaker 4: Celebrity Jeopardy.

1043
00:54:47,120 --> 00:54:52,759
Speaker 1: Early Awesome, Wow, Wow, Kira just went on Celebrity Jeopardy, Patent.

1044
00:54:52,880 --> 00:54:54,080
Speaker 2: Well what women she did?

1045
00:54:54,520 --> 00:54:57,600
Speaker 1: She did yet it was like just her worst nightmare.

1046
00:54:58,280 --> 00:55:04,839
Speaker 1: She hasn't trying to think anyway. Yeah, she was it hard.

1047
00:55:05,760 --> 00:55:07,799
Speaker 3: It's it is so I don't want to take away

1048
00:55:07,800 --> 00:55:10,520
Speaker 3: from run. It's nerve wracking. And what's the worst part

1049
00:55:10,560 --> 00:55:13,120
Speaker 3: is the easiest questions are the ones that you think

1050
00:55:13,160 --> 00:55:16,239
Speaker 3: twice on because you're like, wait, it cannot be that obvious,

1051
00:55:16,440 --> 00:55:18,480
Speaker 3: and then you freeze up and then someone else gets it.

1052
00:55:18,719 --> 00:55:20,120
Speaker 2: That's what, by the way, crazy.

1053
00:55:20,680 --> 00:55:23,200
Speaker 1: By the way, I think it's great the highlights Celebrity

1054
00:55:23,280 --> 00:55:26,200
Speaker 1: Jeopardy because now we're seeing the where it actually goes

1055
00:55:26,239 --> 00:55:29,239
Speaker 1: and we're talking to the receiver two of this. So

1056
00:55:29,320 --> 00:55:32,640
Speaker 1: when you watch Celebrity Jeopardy ladies and gentlemen and you

1057
00:55:32,719 --> 00:55:37,399
Speaker 1: see Pat and Oswalt sweating it out, you literally know

1058
00:55:37,840 --> 00:55:43,040
Speaker 1: that this is that this is time and possible embarrassment.

1059
00:55:43,120 --> 00:55:45,400
Speaker 1: Well spent, but two hundred and fifty grand that's amazing.

1060
00:55:45,640 --> 00:55:49,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, we were all sweating it out. Yeah.

1061
00:55:48,120 --> 00:55:53,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, and Adam got a commendation from the Virginia House

1062
00:55:53,719 --> 00:55:58,120
Speaker 4: of Delegates. Were doing that because he went to William

1063
00:55:58,160 --> 00:56:02,920
Speaker 4: and Merritta, which I think I sent it to you. Pat, Oh,

1064
00:56:02,960 --> 00:56:03,400
Speaker 4: I have it.

1065
00:56:03,640 --> 00:56:04,560
Speaker 2: Don't think I don't have it.

1066
00:56:05,560 --> 00:56:08,239
Speaker 3: And by the way, you if they go to and

1067
00:56:08,320 --> 00:56:09,879
Speaker 3: I'm just I don't mean to speak for you, Kevin,

1068
00:56:09,920 --> 00:56:12,520
Speaker 3: but if you go to al is it Alice's Kids

1069
00:56:12,560 --> 00:56:15,839
Speaker 3: dot org. Yes, if you go to Alice's Kids dot

1070
00:56:15,960 --> 00:56:19,360
Speaker 3: org and donate because you listen to this podcast, technically

1071
00:56:19,840 --> 00:56:21,640
Speaker 3: you are one degree.

1072
00:56:21,200 --> 00:56:25,280
Speaker 2: Away from Kevin Bacon. Kevin, there, you are now connected

1073
00:56:25,320 --> 00:56:26,240
Speaker 2: to Kevin Bacon.

1074
00:56:26,640 --> 00:56:30,880
Speaker 1: Yes, I'm not I am not above selling degrees of separation.

1075
00:56:31,080 --> 00:56:34,640
Speaker 1: It's for a good cause. If it's for a good cause.

1076
00:56:35,040 --> 00:56:38,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, And Kevin, I want to reiterate that what you

1077
00:56:38,080 --> 00:56:40,840
Speaker 4: do and what Panda it really does have an effect,

1078
00:56:40,960 --> 00:56:43,600
Speaker 4: you know that Teresa Vargas column. Like you said, media

1079
00:56:43,920 --> 00:56:49,000
Speaker 4: really has an impact, particularly when that's why Panda. Hate

1080
00:56:49,000 --> 00:56:52,000
Speaker 4: to say it, but Twitter is so powerful for us.

1081
00:56:52,360 --> 00:56:53,080
Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: And Pat, so I was retweeting our stuff or re

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Speaker 4: exing our stuff. But what you all are doing for

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Speaker 4: other charities, yeah, but particularly it is very very commendable.

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Speaker 1: I appreciate it. Well, what you're doing is very much

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Speaker 1: in line with what we're trying to highlight here, both

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Speaker 1: on this podcast but also at sixty degrees dot org

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Speaker 1: and that you know, we we like the fresh ideas,

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Speaker 1: the cool ideas, you know what I mean, the new

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Speaker 1: things that you just kind of come up with something

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Speaker 1: you see a need and you figure out a way

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Speaker 1: to help in their grassroots organizations. And there's a lot

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Speaker 1: of really really giant charities that are doing great work

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Speaker 1: and have great exposure and have very very lavish, you know,

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Speaker 1: kind of events and stuff like that. But we also

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Speaker 1: want to give a voice in a microphone to people

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Speaker 1: like you Ron who have this you know, this idea

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Speaker 1: and it's it's growing and it's helping kids. And I

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Speaker 1: just want to say thank you and thank you guys

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Speaker 1: so much for being here today.

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Speaker 4: Thank you very much.

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Speaker 2: Yes, thank you seriously. Nice seeing it again, Paton, great,

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Speaker 2: seeing you again.

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Speaker 4: Kevin.

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Speaker 3: I've again don't want to be a movie nerd. Been

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Speaker 3: a fan since Animal House, you all, and one of

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Speaker 3: my favorite of many movies you're in. You're scene in

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Speaker 3: Tremors with Fred Ward when you realize, oh my god,

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Speaker 3: we can't make fun of that guy's lifestyle anymore, the

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Speaker 3: crazy right wing gunnut who actually kills one of the worms,

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Speaker 3: and your look on your face, you look genuinely concerned that, oh,

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Speaker 3: we can't make fun of him anymore, and that was like.

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Speaker 2: A big part of our lives. One of the best

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Speaker 2: line readings.

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Speaker 1: I love that. Thank you, thank you very much.

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Speaker 2: Yep, sorry, I had to run that in there.

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Speaker 1: Sorry, just doing what I can with what I've got.

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Speaker 1: There you mentioning that, all right, fellas, Thank you so

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Speaker 1: much for being here. Hey, thanks for listening to another

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Speaker 1: episode of Six Degrees with Kevin Big. To learn more

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Speaker 1: about Alice's Kids and all the special work that they

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Speaker 1: are up to, all you gotta do is head to

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Speaker 1: their website Alice's Kids dot org. You can find all

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Speaker 1: those links in our show notes listen. If you've been

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Speaker 1: following along all season. I just got to say special

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Speaker 1: thank you for supporting these stories and all the great

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Speaker 1: work that these organizations are doing, just to try to

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Speaker 1: make this world of ours a little brighter. As always,

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Speaker 1: if you like what you hear, you can subscribe to

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Speaker 1: the show. You can tune into the rest of our episodes.

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Speaker 1: Trust me, there're some good ones. You can find Six

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Speaker 1: Degrees with Kevin Bacon on iHeartRadio, Apple Podcasts or wherever

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Speaker 1: you get your podcasts, and see you next time