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Speaker 1: Welcome again inside the Colts radio studio. I'm Matt Taylor

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Speaker 1: with JJ Stangovitz, and it's our pleasure right now to

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Speaker 1: meet with John Fox, who has recently been hired as

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Speaker 1: the Colts senior defensive assistant. He's one of the best

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Speaker 1: for three different NFL teams, taking two of those franchises

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Speaker 1: to the Super Bowl. Coach Fox, welcome, man, it's great

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Speaker 1: to meet you. It's great to be here as an

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Speaker 1: moving forward. Absolutely. So your your last stop was in Chicago,

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Speaker 1: as I said the head coach, that was in twenty seventeen.

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Speaker 1: What drew you to Indianapolis and what drew you back

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Speaker 1: to coaching with this position? Well, I think, you know,

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Speaker 1: at the end there in Chicago. You know, my wife

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Speaker 1: to Florida, which is you know where we consider home. Um,

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Speaker 1: you know, I did a little bit of TV work

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Speaker 1: to keep me occupied. But you know, just one and

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Speaker 1: the same as the relationships that you build, whether it's

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Speaker 1: on a coaching staff or you know, with a football

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Speaker 1: team in a locker room, and sometime I missed very

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Speaker 1: much and a very appreciative of Frank Wright to give

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Speaker 1: me this opportunity with the Colts. It's a great organization.

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Speaker 1: They've got a good, young football team that I know.

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Speaker 1: I'm very excited to be a part of a new

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Speaker 1: defensive staff. Gush Bradley's a personal friend. Some of the

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Speaker 1: and I think it's it's a good fit for all

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Speaker 1: of us as you've kind of wrapped your arms around

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Speaker 1: the position and the expertise are gonna be able to

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Speaker 1: lend to Gus Bradley and this Colts defense. What excites

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Speaker 1: you about the way that Gus has kind of developed

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Speaker 1: I think it's my job coming here and learn Gus's system,

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Speaker 1: but its first for me to figure out, you know,

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Speaker 1: on the players. So, um, I'm just real excited about,

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Speaker 1: you know, I think that's what coach Reich's looking you know,

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Speaker 1: how can you use that as you know, your ability

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Speaker 1: You've seen football evolved quite a bit from when he

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Speaker 1: As we're recording this, John, we're less than a week

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Speaker 1: it's such a good topic because of cults, employees, colts, fans,

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Speaker 1: appreciate you talking about that. I think it's fascinating and

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Speaker 1: That's John Fox, He's in the fold he's now the

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Speaker 1: Cults senior defensive assistant and coach. It's great to meet you,

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Speaker 1: it's great to talk to you, and best of luck here.

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