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Speaker 1: This is episode counted, episode ninety four of Native Lamppod,
Speaker 1: where we give you our breakdown and thoughts on all
Speaker 1: things politics, a little bit of culture sprinkles, and that
Speaker 1: we are your hosts Tiffany Cross, Angela Rode, and I'm
Speaker 1: Andrew Gella on what's up everybody?
Speaker 3: What's up?
Speaker 4: Hello?
Speaker 2: Hello, Hello.
Speaker 1: I understand that we got a pack show today, so
Speaker 1: we will not be labor in any way, shape or
Speaker 1: form other than to say that investments was kind of
Speaker 1: cool and is that you get you all to reflect
Speaker 1: on that a moment.
Speaker 2: But what are we talking about otherwise?
Speaker 5: Well, there's a lot going on in the country right now.
Speaker 5: As you all know, we are right upon the twentieth
Speaker 5: anniversary of Hurricane Katrina, and we have a very special
Speaker 5: guest today to talk to us about the lessons learned
Speaker 5: if any boy this country, especially as they're talking about
Speaker 5: getting rid of FEMA. That man is none other than
Speaker 5: the legendary General Russell Honore.
Speaker 4: So I'm thrilled to be talking with him. Today.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'll join you in that, Tiffany, what you get
Speaker 1: on your mind.
Speaker 6: You know, I'm coming to you from the nation's capital.
Speaker 6: And this week the President announced that he would be
Speaker 6: taking over Union Station, which is home to Amtrak, a
Speaker 6: food court, and several retail outlets there. So I want
Speaker 6: to dig into what's happening here on the ground.
Speaker 7: Yeah, so wild.
Speaker 1: And we've of course been observing all the videos that
Speaker 1: citizen reporters have been taken of their experiences under Ystopian.
Speaker 1: I want to say, gangst the led takeover of an
Speaker 1: American city, and I just want to add to the
Speaker 1: conversation that we should warn the next city that is
Speaker 1: on his radar, the city of Chicago, and we'll take
Speaker 1: a look at what the mayor and his team there
Speaker 1: are doing in preparation for and what words of advice
Speaker 1: he has for anyone who is really truly interested in
Speaker 1: bringing down the crime rate, not only in his city
Speaker 1: but across the nation. So we got a full deck
Speaker 1: on hand, y'all, Did I miss anything or we go?
Speaker 2: We're good with those dobies.
Speaker 5: If we don't get to it, at least in the
Speaker 5: mini pod, we should talk about Donald Trump's obsession, at
Speaker 5: least it appears to be an obsession with black women
Speaker 5: and attacking them. Lisa Cook is one of them, the
Speaker 5: only black women on the board of the Federal Reserve,
Speaker 5: and he is going after her.
Speaker 4: We should talk about that and why and if he
Speaker 4: has any recourse at.
Speaker 2: All, absolutely, absolutely, So let's get into it.
Speaker 4: What's up, Native lampod Kay.
Speaker 8: I'm calling him from the Great State of Georgia, and
Speaker 8: my question is about how to go about establishing a
Speaker 8: municipal town. I'd like to see a city where the
Speaker 8: police force is private and I feel like that's really
Speaker 8: the only way to ensure our protection is black people.
Speaker 8: I'd like to have to be a part of a
Speaker 8: community that is self sufficient, self reliant, has its own
Speaker 8: food source, community healers, and to you know, be able
Speaker 8: to build in an era of reconstruction, totally independent of
Speaker 8: the government and the systems that.
Speaker 4: Are really destructive. So I'd love to get your thoughts.
Speaker 8: On how to establish your town and uh and if
Speaker 8: and if I'm successful, Andrew Gillen, will you will you
Speaker 8: be the mayor?
Speaker 4: Thanks?
Speaker 2: Not a chance.
Speaker 1: I was about to volunteer Tiffany and you and Tiffany
Speaker 1: will be co mayors of this said resilient town.
Speaker 3: What you said, Tiffany, I just I love that question.
Speaker 6: And literally as she was speaking, she took the words
Speaker 6: out of my mouth because I was like, Andrew could
Speaker 6: be the mayor.
Speaker 3: But also I had that same question question.
Speaker 6: Unfortunately I don't have an answer for her, but I
Speaker 6: definitely have that question, and I love that innovative way
Speaker 6: of thinking.
Speaker 1: I do too. I thought it was powerful Angela. Maybe
Speaker 1: between the two of us, who can.
Speaker 2: Figure it out.
Speaker 1: But I will say most cities UH in a state
Speaker 1: are chartered by their counties. The county government has jurisdiction
Speaker 1: of all subjects you know, UH municipality known as cities
Speaker 1: beneath it, and some places you have a county that
Speaker 1: is a county in a city all in itself. So
Speaker 1: there are no other subject of cities in my state
Speaker 1: of Florida. I think we may only have three, two
Speaker 1: or three and don't don't quote me, but but but
Speaker 1: a very dominious number of cities are both the city
Speaker 1: and the county itself. In fact, Jacksonville, Duval County is
Speaker 1: one of those, which making it the largest UH city
Speaker 1: in the United States of America land mass wise, I'm
Speaker 1: guessing that Georgia works very similarly, and I'll do some
Speaker 1: quick aologized I didn't prep up on your your question
Speaker 1: before to our listener, but do some quick research to
Speaker 1: verify this. But I'm almost certain that UH put citizens
Speaker 1: in a jurisdictional area can come together to petition the
Speaker 1: county that they live in to charter them as a city.
Speaker 1: That city, then, once UH chartered by the by the
Speaker 1: county government, can operate as any city would, city services,
Speaker 1: municipal services. In some places, they have conditions by which
Speaker 1: you would have to contract with the county for certain services,
Speaker 1: but you basically get to operate like an autonomous city.
Speaker 8: Wow.
Speaker 5: I think that's what just happened. Yeah, I think that's
Speaker 5: what just happened with East Baton Rouge last year. I
Speaker 5: believe so, yes, But I like the question too. I
Speaker 5: think the thing that struck me, you know, especially as
Speaker 5: we get ready for this conversation about d C y'all, is,
Speaker 5: you know, people, especially those who look like us, who
Speaker 5: have felt this in their bodies in some ways ancestrally,
Speaker 5: are just looking for relief. And you can almost hear
Speaker 5: that plea for relief, something that feels like safety, something
Speaker 5: that feels that it like it won't be threatened in
Speaker 5: her and her question, So my heart goes out to you,
Speaker 5: my friend. Yeah, and definitely and all in on whatever
Speaker 5: solutions we can come up with collectively. And if I
Speaker 5: was going to be in a buncket somewhere, it would
Speaker 5: be with these two.
Speaker 4: So I know we can help her figure it out.
Speaker 6: And I you know, look, this is happening. I don't
Speaker 6: know if you guys remember, but a few weeks ago,
Speaker 6: this far right community they were building this white's only
Speaker 6: community in this remote part of the Ozarks in northeastern Arkansas,
Speaker 6: with the possibility of even expanding into Missouri. And so
Speaker 6: I think they thought it was going to be controversial
Speaker 6: that it was this white's only community, and all the
Speaker 6: black people were like, bye, say you guys, good luck,
Speaker 6: Like we actually support this. Yes, go build your white's
Speaker 6: only community and stay the fuk out of our communities
Speaker 6: like it brings us really and safety. If you are
Speaker 6: you know, and as no nationalist group, then by all
Speaker 6: means stay amongst yourselves. My concern, though, I will tell
Speaker 6: you about not her question, but about this solution, is
Speaker 6: we have tried that we have done that. Of course,
Speaker 6: people always go to Tulsa. But Tulsa was not the anomaly,
Speaker 6: it was the norm. Every time we created safety. Those
Speaker 6: people in Tulsa weren't bothering anybody, and most of our
Speaker 6: communities we weren't bothering anybody, and white people came along
Speaker 6: and violently destroyed it. And the example of Tulsa, this
Speaker 6: will transition us to DC. You had the example of
Speaker 6: the military turning on its own people. It was so
Speaker 6: the Department of Justice even found it was so well
Speaker 6: coordinated that it was done with government officials, with Oklahoma's
Speaker 6: National Guard. They were a part of murdering thousands of residents, women, children.
Speaker 6: So it's I just wonder, is there relief for us here?
Speaker 6: Even if we constructed a city, how long before white
Speaker 6: folks came and destroyed it? Which I will say is
Speaker 6: why lately I have been feeling, you know, just because
Speaker 6: of the life I've lived. I think I have lived
Speaker 6: a pretty fearless life so far.
Speaker 2: So far, I got a lot of life left. Girls.
Speaker 6: But this is my point, I will leap without looking,
Speaker 6: you know, because when you don't have a lot of stability,
Speaker 6: and like that's just the norm, you know, like I'll
Speaker 6: move to DC. I don't know anybody in DC. I've
Speaker 6: never been there, but sure I'll move. You know, I'll
Speaker 6: start this job. I don't know if I could do it,
Speaker 6: but sure I'll do it. And for the first time
Speaker 6: in my life, I feel fear. I really do. I
Speaker 6: feel fear. And when we were in Atlanta, invest fat
Speaker 6: shout out to Rashad and Troy who hosts this event
Speaker 6: with ten, I would say about ten thousand people were
Speaker 6: probably there. Yeah, twenty thousand, so ten exactly, say tens
Speaker 6: of thousands of people. How can is some of the people,
Speaker 6: even the hair and makeup team, but also the people there.
Speaker 6: As amazing as it was to see this curiosity around
Speaker 6: financial literacy inside while we were on that stage, a
Speaker 6: part of me felt like, is this a little tone
Speaker 6: deuff that we're sitting here talking about building wealth while
Speaker 6: the country around us is falling. So we were able
Speaker 6: to merge those conversations a bit in Reverend Jamal Harrison
Speaker 6: Brian gave I thought some really insightful words around trying
Speaker 6: to merge those two thoughts, those two agendas, because the
Speaker 6: federal takeover of DC is absolutely frightening, and I believe
Speaker 6: we may have sound that Angela found of what it's
Speaker 6: like for the residents here.
Speaker 5: So for those of you who are listening and not watching,
Speaker 5: even those of you who are watching, that was outside
Speaker 5: of Gallery Place, Gallery Place metro station in d C.
Speaker 5: There's a woman being arrested by transit police but also
Speaker 5: the United States Park Police, and this is far outside
Speaker 5: of their jurisdiction, far outside of what they're trained to do.
Speaker 4: She would stop for fair evasion.
Speaker 5: I don't know if you want to go back and
Speaker 5: count the number of officers who were involved in that altercation,
Speaker 5: but this was about fair invasion, she said, evasion, and
Speaker 5: she said that on her phone she had proof that
Speaker 5: she paid the fare. They end up putting her into
Speaker 5: a police car. They search her bag, they take her
Speaker 5: phone out of her back pocket, and it's also they
Speaker 5: could find an ID. They start taking pictures of her.
Speaker 5: I d there's all of these challenges constitutionally with this stop,
Speaker 5: with this arrest. And I think what also is important
Speaker 5: is there are young people who are watching what's happening
Speaker 5: in DC and they actually are protesting as well.
Speaker 4: Let's take a look at this clip.
Speaker 9: We are here today because young people deserve to be celebrated.
Speaker 9: Young people deserve to be loved, they deserve to be
Speaker 9: cared for, and they deserve to be recognized as the
Speaker 9: leaders that they are, not the leaders of the future,
Speaker 9: but the leaders of today. I stand before you because
Speaker 9: DC is on us to support our young people today, tomorrow,
Speaker 9: and in every moment ongoing.
Speaker 3: It's on us to show up for young people, talk.
Speaker 9: With them, encourage them, make sure they have the information
Speaker 9: they need to make the decisions that are best for
Speaker 9: their well being. Support our teachers, social workers, coaches, staff,
Speaker 9: all the workers who support young people day in and
Speaker 9: deep day out, and most of all, it is our
Speaker 9: obligation to be in solidarity with these young people, especially
Speaker 9: while they are being attacked.
Speaker 4: Listen to our young people.
Speaker 9: Care how everything that is happening right now is affecting them.
Speaker 9: Care their solutions, They're brilliance, their power.
Speaker 5: I think that what's so important about this, y'all, is
Speaker 5: that young people are being impacted and traumatized by what
Speaker 5: they're seeing every single day. There's another young woman who
Speaker 5: went to arraignment court. You can imagine that given the
Speaker 5: number of frivolous arrests, I would argue frivolous the arrangment
Speaker 5: court is backed up. So let's take a look at
Speaker 5: what this citizen says. She saw an arrangement court.
Speaker 10: They are locking people up for any and everything. Four
Speaker 10: people were arrested yesterday for being in a public party.
Speaker 10: They arrested a barred attorney. We just saw him an
Speaker 10: arrangement court like ten minutes ago. And this is what
Speaker 10: the judge said today verb beatim. I am forbidden from
Speaker 10: ruling on the Fourth Amendment violations. And this is very
Speaker 10: clearly a Fourth Amendment violation because I found probable calls.
Speaker 10: I have to hold you. No Trump trying to hold
Speaker 10: DC for ransom.
Speaker 5: The attorney she referenced in that clip is Paul Brian.
Speaker 5: He's a corporate attorney, a black man who's worked in
Speaker 5: some firms in DC and also is a United States
Speaker 5: veteran as.
Speaker 2: An officer of the DC Bar.
Speaker 11: That these officers are violating my civil rights.
Speaker 2: Under federal law, and I will be.
Speaker 11: Pressing charges when everyone who has physically touched me tonight,
Speaker 11: who has applied pressure to me in ways.
Speaker 2: That I will not forget anytime soon.
Speaker 11: This is tragic in a country where black men are
Speaker 11: being killed by people that look just like this. I
Speaker 11: was sneered at, I was ignored, and I was not
Speaker 11: told why I was being detained.
Speaker 2: What are the names of the two officers holding you
Speaker 2: right now?
Speaker 11: Officer at Costello, at Castello, he has his name blocked off.
Speaker 2: I do not know what it is and I don't
Speaker 2: want to touch him for fear of my life. This
Speaker 2: is an FBI agent who I do not know.
Speaker 7: Aren't they only.
Speaker 4: Allowed to wolkisten minutes?
Speaker 11: None for thou they are trying to manufacture evidence. I
Speaker 11: do not have a magazine in my weabdon because my
Speaker 11: magazine is in the.
Speaker 2: Trumpet my vehicle, which they would have.
Speaker 11: Known if they would have asked me.
Speaker 7: They did not ask me.
Speaker 11: My magazine is in the trumpet. To the American people watching,
Speaker 11: this is what calling out a failed system looks like. LOOKID,
Speaker 11: I was walking peacefully down this block and I was
Speaker 11: accosted by twenty no lesser than twenty MPD, FBI, ATF
Speaker 11: agents and officers.
Speaker 7: I am not crazy.
Speaker 11: I am totally saying I have complied with all of
Speaker 11: these officers requests, and thirty minutes after.
Speaker 7: Being detained, I remained detained and I'm not you were
Speaker 7: able to go.
Speaker 11: I do not know what charges. I do not know
Speaker 11: why being detained. I was given no information. No officers
Speaker 11: will offering me any type of pre no type of respite.
Speaker 11: Nothing similarly to just stand here and be handcuffed while
Speaker 11: we wait to find magazines that do not exist, or we.
Speaker 7: Will find one for you.
Speaker 2: I assume that is the case.
Speaker 5: So I wanted to just bring that to you all.
Speaker 5: And you know, again, as Tip said, she's living there,
Speaker 5: she's having to bear witness to this. There are organizations
Speaker 5: that I just want to acknowledge Free d C. Harriet
Speaker 5: Stream who are doing the work of organizing our young people,
Speaker 5: providing safe spaces for them to get around, same thing
Speaker 5: with our elders. This is a really scary time, and
Speaker 5: I think the worst thing is we have always been taught,
Speaker 5: especially as an attorney, I've always been taught that when
Speaker 5: an officer violates the law, you will always be able
Speaker 5: to lean up on the safety of justice in a
Speaker 5: courtroom and to hear what that judge told them. An
Speaker 5: arraiment car court is just frankly scary. So I'm wondering
Speaker 5: what recourse we have other than the suggestion that was
Speaker 5: brought to us by our dear friend and family member
Speaker 5: who sent in the question earlier today.
Speaker 1: It's like they so, first of all, young people, middle
Speaker 1: aged people, all people alike. It is terrorizing to watch that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: let alone be the subject of it. It's terrorizing to
Speaker 1: all of our psyches, everybody who's in listening, ear who
Speaker 1: visually watch this, And God knows, my heart goes out
Speaker 1: to the people who are experiencing it. Yeah, day in
Speaker 1: and day out. These guys are domestic terrorists. And what
Speaker 1: makes them terrorists, and in my opinion, what makes them
Speaker 1: traitors to the country and to the Constitution is the
Speaker 1: fact that we still have habeasts right in this country.
Speaker 1: If you detain me as an American, you have to
Speaker 1: tell me why we don't have the right in America
Speaker 1: to just snatch American citizens up with no explanation as
Speaker 1: to why.
Speaker 2: And think we can get away with it.
Speaker 1: And I guess, tiff Angelo, I've just decided this very moment,
Speaker 1: it is not enough to just return to a status quo.
Speaker 1: Anybody running for an office and talking about getting back
Speaker 1: to a sense of normalcy, screw you in the train
Speaker 1: you rode in on, the donkey you rode in on,
Speaker 1: because you are an ass The status quo is not sufficient.
Speaker 1: We are off the rails here. We're off the rails.
Speaker 1: And what I will expect from whomever wants my vote
Speaker 1: for leadership is full accounting of what these last four
Speaker 1: years are. These four years under Trump will have borne us.
Speaker 1: So if you are an attorney and.
Speaker 2: You have flouted the legal system and just.
Speaker 1: Dismiss the instructions of a judge wherever you are barred,
Speaker 1: the bar associations need to be working diligent, need to
Speaker 1: remove your license forever so that you can never again
Speaker 1: be an officer of the court.
Speaker 2: You cannot be trusted.
Speaker 1: If you are a government lawyer or a government official.
Speaker 2: You are skirting the law. You are skirting the constitution.
Speaker 1: You are acting in submission to an individual, to a man,
Speaker 1: and not to the rule of law.
Speaker 2: You should be held accountable.
Speaker 1: While the court at the highest level may have said
Speaker 1: you cannot prosecute a sitting president or a president of
Speaker 1: the United States, that does not apply to folks who
Speaker 1: work for.
Speaker 2: That president of the United States.
Speaker 1: And I know that some people will say, well, well,
Speaker 1: how do we get into a tiff for tech?
Speaker 2: We can't have a different No, no, no, no, no, We're
Speaker 2: beyond that.
Speaker 1: If we allow the kinds of transgressions that we're seeing
Speaker 1: right now to go unpunished, to go unaccounted for, We're
Speaker 1: inviting the ship to happen again. And I've already had enough,
Speaker 1: and i haven't been the subject in one of those videos.
Speaker 1: We've been bearing witness from wherever we are around the
Speaker 1: country and trying to keep ourselves safe and protected.
Speaker 2: But this is gone. This is out of control.
Speaker 1: And to your point, Angela, there are judges in the
Speaker 1: district who are saying you are violating rights.
Speaker 2: This is the most blatant and.
Speaker 1: Obvious violation of constitutional rights that I've ever seen.
Speaker 2: These are the words of judges.
Speaker 1: You have grand juries who are refusing the prosecutors a
Speaker 1: requests to bring indictments against many of these individuals. They're
Speaker 1: saying no, no, So on one hand, I'm glad that
Speaker 1: there are some forms of resistance which are not really
Speaker 1: resistance at all. That's simply obeyance. It's a basis to
Speaker 1: the constitution and to the laws. But we got applaud
Speaker 1: that where is happening when the government is running roughshod
Speaker 1: over the rest of the country and they have to
Speaker 1: be held to account.
Speaker 2: If you're running you better say it. And moreover, when
Speaker 2: you win, you better do it.
Speaker 1: They all have to be held to account or we're
Speaker 1: inviting this same kind of uh glimpse into totalitarianism for
Speaker 1: the future.
Speaker 4: I saw, I don't know what it is.
Speaker 3: Yeah, go ahead, No, no, I.
Speaker 4: Was, I was actually gonna bring you in.
Speaker 5: I was seeing your tears and when you know either
Speaker 5: of you cry like it takes everything in me not
Speaker 5: to cry too, and just witnessing your heartbreak and having
Speaker 5: to get up, I just wanted to know what came
Speaker 5: up for you to.
Speaker 3: It's just.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 6: Andrew made me laugh a little bit when he said
Speaker 6: scream and the donkey wrote in because you aren't asked.
Speaker 3: I'm feeling it, but frightening the I don't include my ugly.
Speaker 6: Cry because this is a horrible but it is so
Speaker 6: frightening what's happening here. And to see that, man, it
Speaker 6: just feels like it's not a matter of if, but
Speaker 6: when that is going to come for all of us.
Speaker 6: Walking to the store yesterday I got back from New York.
Speaker 6: Walking through this store yesterday, I saw two little girls,
Speaker 6: two little Latino girls, and they were walking and they
Speaker 6: were surrounded by agents.
Speaker 3: They weren't doing anything.
Speaker 6: They were just walking through the store and four grown
Speaker 6: men were walking behind them. They looked like they were
Speaker 6: thirteen fourteen. It's a Latino neighborhood and it was flooded.
Speaker 6: Even playing clothes, they stand out, you know, even they're
Speaker 6: not in uniform, they're.
Speaker 3: In playing clothes.
Speaker 6: And I have never personally felt before. So I think
Speaker 6: about our ancestors, you know, not even our ancestors, people
Speaker 6: who are still alive, what they went.
Speaker 3: Through in the sixties.
Speaker 6: It feels like we're going through that now. And there's
Speaker 6: a level of frustration for me. I did see an
Speaker 6: end this week and this attorney, Arthur Idalla, was speaking
Speaker 6: about but this makes things safer, and I was trying
Speaker 6: to explain to him this, this makes who's safer? Who
Speaker 6: are these people here to protect and who are they
Speaker 6: there to protect the protected class from? People feel safer
Speaker 6: because they're not targeting white men. And so it's just
Speaker 6: frustrating because I don't know what to say or do
Speaker 6: to people.
Speaker 3: Who are waiting for this imaginary line.
Speaker 6: I was appalled at how many people I talked to
Speaker 6: in Atlanta, just random conversation, who were just like, oh,
Speaker 6: do that in Atlanta. It's too many black folks like
Speaker 6: we ready for the moment, y'all, Like, ain't too many
Speaker 6: people who square up against the United States government and
Speaker 6: live to tell about it.
Speaker 3: When I get off the.
Speaker 6: Train at Union Station to see tanks outside, and so
Speaker 6: now there's an official takeover, and it just feels like,
Speaker 6: I'm not gonna lie to you, guys. I had hope.
Speaker 6: I'm like, this is just a moment. He shouldn't afflex
Speaker 6: his power and this all go away. I don't know
Speaker 6: that I feel that way anymore. This feels like this
Speaker 6: is what's coming. And the stress and anxiety of looking
Speaker 6: out your window everywhere there's no relief. It is like
Speaker 6: caught in my throat, like I can't relax, I can't breathe,
Speaker 6: just walking here, walking to my office. It's just I
Speaker 6: don't know, I don't know how to describe it, but
Speaker 6: I'm just thinking, this is what our elders went through,
Speaker 6: that somebody could come terrorize your existence.
Speaker 3: At any given moment.
Speaker 6: And it feels like and if you're in Baltimore or
Speaker 6: in Chicago, Oakland, anywhere, and you think that's what's happening
Speaker 6: over there, I'm telling you it is coming.
Speaker 3: Soon to a city near you.
Speaker 6: So I have such anger towards these people, towards the
Speaker 6: people who are ignorant to it, Towards the people who
Speaker 6: deny what's happening, Towards the media outlets who won't show
Speaker 6: videos like that that should be flooding the airwaves to
Speaker 6: show how it's violating our civil rights. Shame on anybody
Speaker 6: who has a platform and is an insisting on showing
Speaker 6: those types of things. It's just frustrated. So I feel frustrated.
Speaker 6: I don't have my thoughts altogether. I just feel frustrated
Speaker 6: and ashamed for feeling frightened.
Speaker 5: I hope you don't feel shamed, Tiff, and I want
Speaker 5: you to always feel safe, you know, in your true feelings.
Speaker 5: But like the rawst emotion that we have, the ability
Speaker 5: to say that you're afraid is actually, in and of
Speaker 5: itself courageous. It invites in the ability to be vulnerable.
Speaker 5: And this is absolutely frightening. Like, we have a meeting
Speaker 5: next week for State of the People and it's supposed
Speaker 5: to be in DC, and I was struggling to figure
Speaker 5: out where could we go where there's no windows for
Speaker 5: folks to see in there are the things that we're
Speaker 5: having to calculate right now, are crazy. It's not even
Speaker 5: just simply a civil rights violation. It's not even just
Speaker 5: simply a human rights violation. It's not just simply a
Speaker 5: constitutional violation.
Speaker 4: It is a.
Speaker 5: Threat to the very form of safety that we rest
Speaker 5: up against when we go home and lay our heads
Speaker 5: on our pillows at night.
Speaker 4: It is an occupation, is what it is. And so
Speaker 4: we have to call.
Speaker 5: A thing a thing, and we have to figure out
Speaker 5: what recourse we have and pray that somewhere, somehow, the
Speaker 5: highest court in the land will somehow find its integrity,
Speaker 5: will somehow find a backbone, because I don't know what
Speaker 5: other systems we have if we.
Speaker 4: Can't rely upon that, y'all.
Speaker 5: You know, the only other recourse as war as the
Speaker 5: I think so.
Speaker 1: It is that, or it is it is us really
Speaker 1: getting so baked tired, we're like, and don't mistake my tears.
Speaker 1: And I imagine that some of this is for Tiffany
Speaker 1: as well. I'm angry. I'm just I'm really angry. I'm
Speaker 1: very angry at every level. I understand Jimmy Baldwin right
Speaker 1: to be black in America, you know, wake up and
Speaker 1: what it is to live in a constant state of frustration.
Speaker 1: But I'm pissed off that white people aren't more mad.
Speaker 1: I'm mad that we're that that too many of us
Speaker 1: are really sinking into the comforts of our creative devices
Speaker 1: at home and not really awake to the fact that
Speaker 1: we don't have to wait for the president to declare
Speaker 1: a suspension of habeas corpus to know that he has
Speaker 1: suspended hapeas corpus, our right to be told while we
Speaker 1: are detained, and as detaining people at random in their
Speaker 1: own and that there is conspiracy in our government to
Speaker 1: go after black elected officials.
Speaker 2: And people in power. And I know we're going to
Speaker 2: get to this subject, but.
Speaker 1: A conspiracy because just because the government has your information
Speaker 1: does not mean any department can access it. And it
Speaker 1: certainly doesn't mean any department of the government can access
Speaker 1: it and then use it against you.
Speaker 2: That is not legal in the United States. You still
Speaker 2: need a judge, you still need to be given permission
Speaker 2: to enter into our private records. And answer that.
Speaker 1: That's the question I have as we move into the
Speaker 1: topic around you know, some of this mortgage stuff that
Speaker 1: we keep seeing pop up around black people in power
Speaker 1: who trump has determined our threat to him, the usage
Speaker 1: of government information to be weaponized against them in an
Speaker 1: effort to undermine us.
Speaker 2: Take our power away, take our position away.
Speaker 1: And relegate us not to second size class citizens, but
Speaker 1: to irrelevance is where they are.
Speaker 2: We are irrelevant is where.
Speaker 1: They want us of no consequence to them, and they
Speaker 1: think they can run rough shot over every rule, every law,
Speaker 1: every element of the Constitution. And I've never held so
Speaker 1: tightly to a document that didn't include me at its origins, right,
Speaker 1: but I'm holding tight to it now because it is ours.
Speaker 2: We have shaped it and to being closer to the
Speaker 2: more perfect and.
Speaker 1: The cities people run over it like they like it
Speaker 1: never existed and run over us like it never existed
Speaker 1: is crazy.
Speaker 2: So I'd love if.
Speaker 1: You wouldn't mind just walking us into to what I
Speaker 1: believe again may be a conspiracy within the.
Speaker 2: Government to target these individuals.
Speaker 5: Okay, andra'mna answer that question, but first we got to
Speaker 5: take a break.
Speaker 4: Okay.
Speaker 5: So, as TIV mentioned, there are a number of mayors
Speaker 5: cities that are being targeted. I would suspect because they
Speaker 5: have black mayors, and one of them was on a
Speaker 5: show recently. We're going to call out the nonsense on
Speaker 5: all the platforms, and.
Speaker 4: So this one I want to go to.
Speaker 5: This one I want to go to because it well,
Speaker 5: I'll let y'all be the judge.
Speaker 12: Would you also like to get federal funding to help
Speaker 12: put five thousand more cops on the street in Chicago?
Speaker 7: Would that help drive down crime?
Speaker 13: Well, Look, policing by itself is not the full strategy.
Speaker 12: I understand here if you've talked about the other things
Speaker 12: you want, and I said, those are good and important programs,
Speaker 12: But I'm asking also, would five thousand more police officers
Speaker 12: on the street in Chicago be helpful to go along
Speaker 12: with all of those social programs and a lot of
Speaker 12: cities are engaging in and having success with.
Speaker 13: Look, here's the best way I can put it, Joe,
Speaker 13: is that in the nineties when I was in high school,
Speaker 13: we had three thousand more police officers and we had
Speaker 13: nine hundred people being murdered every single year in Chicago.
Speaker 13: It's just not policing alone. Of course, we want more.
Speaker 12: Detective So of course I know it's not it's not
Speaker 12: policing alone.
Speaker 7: You've told me everything else you want.
Speaker 12: I'm curious, and this is this does come down to
Speaker 12: an ideological.
Speaker 7: Difference between between people.
Speaker 12: Do you believe that the streets of Chicago would be
Speaker 12: safer if there were more uniformed police officers on the
Speaker 12: streets of Chicago.
Speaker 13: I believe the city of Chicago and cities across America
Speaker 13: would be safer if we actually had, you know, affordable housing.
Speaker 7: Look, Okay, not the question I asked my question.
Speaker 14: But.
Speaker 5: So I want to just I want to tap in
Speaker 5: here for a moment. I know we are really triggering
Speaker 5: all of our on all sides today.
Speaker 4: This show should just be called triggered.
Speaker 2: Triggered.
Speaker 5: I got a word that rhymes with it, but I'm
Speaker 5: gonna leave it alone right there.
Speaker 7: So I my god.
Speaker 4: So I wanted to do that for two reasons.
Speaker 5: One, what is not helpful in this moment is to
Speaker 5: be trying to back somebody's ass up against the wall
Speaker 5: on what you think is going to keep us. There
Speaker 5: are cops literally swarming DC right now, and people are
Speaker 5: not safe and we are not saved. As Derek Beal
Speaker 5: would say, like, this is one of those moments where
Speaker 5: we have to be honest about what is More law
Speaker 5: enforcement on the streets does not make safety for black people.
Speaker 5: It just doesn't there is data to support it. We
Speaker 5: don't have time to get into it. But that is ridiculous.
Speaker 2: I'm also frustrating anybody or anybody.
Speaker 4: But maybe somebody just say't.
Speaker 2: Us the numbers.
Speaker 1: You hit the numbers, Angela, You're right, It doesn't make
Speaker 1: it safer for anybody.
Speaker 2: I think.
Speaker 5: I think ultimately, what we have here, though, is a
Speaker 5: clear example, textbook example of gaslighting from that host of
Speaker 5: that show with this black mayor, he's talking over him.
Speaker 4: I have never seen.
Speaker 5: Him do that to a white elected official ever ever.
Speaker 5: And the fact that he would challenge him on these
Speaker 5: terms when we know what's happening in DC right now,
Speaker 5: when we know why Donald Trump is targeting them, it
Speaker 5: is absolutely ridiculous. It is absolutely disrespectful, disrespectful, and there
Speaker 5: should be some statement from the network that apologizes to
Speaker 5: Brandon Johnson for what happened on the air.
Speaker 4: It is absolutely ridiculous.
Speaker 5: I also just want to say this, I want for
Speaker 5: the mayors, especially because in a lot of ways you
Speaker 5: all are the front line, and a lot of ways
Speaker 5: y'all are our last hope. Maybe with the governors and
Speaker 5: attorney generals two those who are willing, but I want
Speaker 5: you to lean into what it means to trust in
Speaker 5: a system that is supposed to work.
Speaker 4: I want you to challenge hosts.
Speaker 5: I want you to use your press conferences to absolutely
Speaker 5: talk about how the system is supposed to work, what
Speaker 5: the protections are supposed to be. And I'm saying supposed
Speaker 5: to because we know that they never were designed this
Speaker 5: way and we're seeing just how fragile they were.
Speaker 4: So that's my only thing, y'all.
Speaker 5: But I wanted to play that because it just infuriated
Speaker 5: me to watch that.
Speaker 6: I wish that Joe could have found the balls to
Speaker 6: address Donald Trump that way when he allowed him to
Speaker 6: phone into his show and helped him secure the nomination
Speaker 6: in twenty sixteen. I wish he could have found his
Speaker 6: nuts when he and his wife were at mar A Lago,
Speaker 6: right bending the knee, so the temerity. But Joe does
Speaker 6: that a lot. He's done that to me before. He
Speaker 6: cannot handle addressing an intellectual superior, and it is it
Speaker 6: is white man rule, you know. I think that's the
Speaker 6: part that's so frustrating to me. He and his former
Speaker 6: employee now wife earn at least I think sixteen million
Speaker 6: a year from that network. When I worked there, I
Speaker 6: would lap them in my ratings. I didn't make a
Speaker 6: fraction of that. When Joy worked there, she more than
Speaker 6: laped them. She lapped them a few times in her ratings.
Speaker 6: I can say Joy did not make sixteen million a year.
Speaker 6: So it's just insulting that they're celebrated. People think millions
Speaker 6: of folks watch that show. Sometimes they get five hundred
Speaker 6: thousand people. Maybe, so if you're watching to hate, watch
Speaker 6: your contributing to their ratings. Y'all got mad for a
Speaker 6: minute when it came out that they went to mar
Speaker 6: A Lago, and slowly but surely people started creeping back
Speaker 6: in watching it. Turn it off, like read something, don't
Speaker 6: watch them. You even see Mika tapping him at a
Speaker 6: certain point, trying to encourage him to let the mayor speak.
Speaker 6: I just look, I'm not mad at a tough interview
Speaker 6: and trying to force politicians to answer questions. They make
Speaker 6: a dance of it a lot, but I have not
Speaker 6: seen Joe in particular address any white politician that way.
Speaker 6: And can I just say really quickly, when I was
Speaker 6: on Seeing in this week, because I think it shows
Speaker 6: a pattern. When I was on CNN this week, I
Speaker 6: was on with two white men and Jamie Harrison. So
Speaker 6: Jamie Harrison is the former chair of the Democratic National
Speaker 6: Party National Committee, And so every time I forget the
Speaker 6: other guy's name, but every time it came time to
Speaker 6: say something, these two would attack me. They would attack
Speaker 6: what I said, they would attack my perspective, and they
Speaker 6: would say, oh, if a Democrat that had done this,
Speaker 6: Tiffany would have fill in the blank or anything.
Speaker 3: Trump.
Speaker 6: Thus Tiffany doesn't like. I just found it striking that
Speaker 6: I'm one not a Democrat. Two, I'm sitting here with
Speaker 6: the chair, the former chair of the party, who happens
Speaker 6: to be around six feet tall, a black man, and
Speaker 6: presents like a six foot tall black man. But they
Speaker 6: felt more comfortable attacking me at every time. And I'm fine,
Speaker 6: you want to bumble with the bee, let's tangle, like
Speaker 6: I'm good going back and forth on an intellectual basis
Speaker 6: with anybody. But it just shows that same mentality that
Speaker 6: Joe had. I don't even think he would have spoken
Speaker 6: to him on set that way.
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 6: I feel ready to secede from the nation. I just
Speaker 6: don't know a path for safety here. I don't know
Speaker 6: a path for success here. And I'm telling you, I
Speaker 6: feel I don't know how to calm down, like it's
Speaker 6: just it's in my throat. And sometimes I'm in therapy.
Speaker 6: My therapy is like, where do you feel it right now?
Speaker 6: I feel it in my chest, I feel it in
Speaker 6: my throat. Everything feels so tight because literally, right outside
Speaker 6: there there's tyranny, there's authoritarianism, and I just I don't,
Speaker 6: I don't know. When you have people like Joe, who's
Speaker 6: you know, a flagship show for a dumb ass network
Speaker 6: that has rebranded itself to be Fox News Lights, I'm
Speaker 6: just I'm at a loss.
Speaker 2: I don't know, y'all.
Speaker 1: Let's share the frustration obviously over the day respection on
Speaker 1: the mayor, but my real deeper, if I were to
Speaker 1: pull back the layer's frustration, is that Joe Scarborough used
Speaker 1: to be a policymaker.
Speaker 2: He used to be in Congress from the great state
Speaker 2: of Florida. Right, he knows the.
Speaker 1: Layers he would resist as an elected official, any host,
Speaker 1: his inclination to oversimplify something as complicated as crime fighting.
Speaker 1: So when I take into consideration that the man knows
Speaker 1: better but yet decided to act contemperately with a sitting
Speaker 1: mayor of one of America's largest.
Speaker 2: Cities on a serious question. The mayor actually gave.
Speaker 1: Him a very It takes partly running a city to
Speaker 1: know this.
Speaker 2: But when he said, I will take more detectives, see,
Speaker 2: it wasn't Joe's question.
Speaker 1: He didn't answer Joe's questions about five thousand more police officers, right,
Speaker 1: which is to put him in a box, by the way,
Speaker 1: that was simply formed to put him in the nineteen
Speaker 1: nineties soft on crime versus tough on crime box.
Speaker 2: That's what that was. We see you, bruh.
Speaker 1: The mayor saw it in real time sitting there. But
Speaker 1: what the mayor said is I would like more detectives.
Speaker 1: Why does he want more detectives Because in most cities,
Speaker 1: most crimes that are reported.
Speaker 2: Are not closed out.
Speaker 1: They sit as having been reported, investigated, but not necessarily
Speaker 1: drawn to a successful conclusion, meaning you found who the
Speaker 1: perpetrators were.
Speaker 2: They were prosecuted, so on and so forth.
Speaker 1: The close out rate, as is known in the municipalities,
Speaker 1: sits probably in most places at less than twenty percent means,
Speaker 1: which means eighty percent of these crimes that are that
Speaker 1: are committed and reported go without ever being successfully resolved.
Speaker 2: Well, who would normally be responsible for resolving crimes that are.
Speaker 1: Reported detectives, not the line officers necessarily, but detectives who.
Speaker 2: Go layers beneath to figure out a thing.
Speaker 1: That way, when you saw that crime, you catch the
Speaker 1: people who are the perpetrators and then you get them
Speaker 1: off the street, or you teach the streets the lesson
Speaker 1: that if you can commit a crime, you will be
Speaker 1: found and you will be held to the standard of
Speaker 1: the law. But if eighty percent of the crimes that
Speaker 1: are committed are going unresolved, the lesson you're teaching people
Speaker 1: is you can commit it and get away with it.
Speaker 2: Eight times out of ten, you're going to be able
Speaker 2: to walk free. Right.
Speaker 1: So the mayor had the right answer, which is I'll
Speaker 1: take some more detectives. But he didn't want to fall
Speaker 1: into the box of tough on crime, soft on crime,
Speaker 1: five thousand more officers, because he knows the brutality that
Speaker 1: comes with that. He knows what that means to his citizens.
Speaker 1: And I applaud him for being responsible. And I really
Speaker 1: hate that MSNBC or SEE what whatever they're called today
Speaker 1: would allow such disrespect on what is supposed to be
Speaker 1: a thoughtful show on their platform, that the mayor could
Speaker 1: not even express what would have been a thoughtful answer,
Speaker 1: but rather being chased around the damn table by Joe
Speaker 1: Scarborough to give him a punchline slash a talking point,
Speaker 1: slash tough on crime, not tough on crime, a label
Speaker 1: that he wanted to be able to apply to the mayor,
Speaker 1: and the mayor resisted.
Speaker 4: Well, I appreciate just taking that moment.
Speaker 5: I think on the point of attack, and Andrew, you
Speaker 5: brought this up already. We are continuing this trigger show
Speaker 5: with what is happening with Federal Reserve Reserve Board member
Speaker 5: Lisa Cook. And it's over one hundred plus year history.
Speaker 5: She's the only black woman to serve on the Federal
Speaker 5: Reserve Board. President under ordinary circumstances where the law actually applies,
Speaker 5: has no authority whatsoever to fire a member of the
Speaker 5: Federal Reserve Board. And so I thought, for a moment
Speaker 5: we could we could just talk about this. So, Andrew
Speaker 5: you raised it earlier. You want to raise you want
Speaker 5: me to talk about the kron.
Speaker 6: Do you guys mind really quickly because it's not common knowledge. Yeah, yes,
Speaker 6: So I think it's important to say first, the Federal
Speaker 6: The Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve is its
Speaker 6: official name, but it's commonly commonly known as the Federal Reserve,
Speaker 6: and this is the main governing body that is charged
Speaker 6: with overseeing the Federal Reserve banks, which helps implement monetary policy.
Speaker 6: This is relevant right now because Donald Trump has been
Speaker 6: at war essentially with Jerome Powell, who is the Chair
Speaker 6: of the Federal Reserve, because he wants him to adjust
Speaker 6: interest rates. Now I'm not an economist, so I'm not
Speaker 6: going to get into the specifics of that. It might
Speaker 6: be great to have an economist on to do that,
Speaker 6: but I will tell you that there are economists who say, well, yes,
Speaker 6: you could adjust interest rates and then maybe people's mortgages
Speaker 6: would go down, but the price the cost of homes
Speaker 6: would go up. So it's not a simple, easy solution.
Speaker 6: Lisa Cook was the first black woman to serve in
Speaker 6: this position, and no one has ever been fired in
Speaker 6: the one hundred and eleven year history of this body.
Speaker 3: So I just want to start that in context.
Speaker 1: People, No, that's helpful, And to continue your example, who
Speaker 1: doesn't want low interest right?
Speaker 2: Low interest rates on things?
Speaker 1: The problem is is obviously the Fed Bank has to
Speaker 1: balance low interest rates without inspiring inflation. So if you
Speaker 1: get a lot of money obviously circulating through the system,
Speaker 1: the price of goods and services has to go up.
Speaker 1: You can't have but so much money fluctuating, or the
Speaker 1: value of the dollar declines, not just here but around
Speaker 1: the world. So in order for our money to have value,
Speaker 1: which is what the value of money is, we need
Speaker 1: to keep it strong and so FED policy was designed
Speaker 1: after the First and the Second Bank of the United States,
Speaker 1: to be separate from the political whims, flows and ebbs
Speaker 1: of a politician who is serving at a particular point
Speaker 1: in time. Any elected official will want to be able
Speaker 1: to say I lowered your interest rates when I was president,
Speaker 1: and then they won't be around to take responsibility for
Speaker 1: the inflation that comes afterwards that ends up costing all
Speaker 1: of us a hell of a lot more money and
Speaker 1: devaluing the dollars that we work hard to earn. So,
Speaker 1: in this case, the president or a whistleblo I don't
Speaker 1: know how they want to describe this claim, but apparently
Speaker 1: some woman in the government decided to write a letter
Speaker 1: saying or accusing the governor of.
Speaker 2: Mortgage fraud by contending that.
Speaker 1: She has signed her permanent residency to not just one,
Speaker 1: but two homes. Now you all may have heard this
Speaker 1: by now, but Ken Paxson down in Texas, the governor
Speaker 1: was also the attorney general, sorry, the attorney general running
Speaker 1: for governor. The Attorney general of Texas, who's one of
Speaker 1: the favorite candidates for governor of Texas, has also been
Speaker 1: accused of mortgage fraud by I believe this was a
Speaker 1: newspaper maybe for owning three residents. Is that he tarman
Speaker 1: to were his main residences. Now, when it comes to
Speaker 1: the governor of the Fed Reserve, the Attorney General of
Speaker 1: New York, and I believe even Adam Shift possibly I
Speaker 1: think was the third person that Trump has done this too.
Speaker 2: They have accused them all of mortgage.
Speaker 1: Fraud again doing the same thing allegedly that Paxson has done,
Speaker 1: and assigned all three in those instances, those three instances
Speaker 1: that they make this claim to the US Attorney General, who,
Speaker 1: as you know, is better known as Trump's lapdog from Florida,
Speaker 1: who finds herself more often than not being the personal
Speaker 1: attorneys to the President rather than the attorney for the
Speaker 1: people of the United States of America.
Speaker 2: He's made these referrals to.
Speaker 1: Them, and you can rest assured that Pam Bondi, within
Speaker 1: her power and scope, is going to do everything that
Speaker 1: she can to probably buttress that referral with possible prosecution
Speaker 1: of those individuals as a way of moving them out
Speaker 1: of Trump's way. And so where we are right now
Speaker 1: is I'm just curious to know if this is mortgage
Speaker 1: information which is not publicly available by and large, meaning
Speaker 1: you take a little website of the government necessarily find
Speaker 1: out many of the details around this, and those details
Speaker 1: are then only available through the federal government and a
Speaker 1: database that they keep. How is it that the whistleblower
Speaker 1: quote or the staff person who is making this claim
Speaker 1: is able to do so without access to very sensitive
Speaker 1: government information.
Speaker 4: Well, and I think that that's just it right.
Speaker 5: So this referral was made by the Federal Housing Finance
Speaker 5: Agency Director William Poulty.
Speaker 4: I believe is that you say it. I know you
Speaker 4: all have.
Speaker 5: Seen paulty homes l before in that family. No surprises
Speaker 5: there the term administration, but they have the mortgage documents.
Speaker 5: This is the same thing that happened in the case
Speaker 5: with Marilynd Moseby. It is the same thing or a
Speaker 5: similar thing that has happened in the case with Tiss James.
Speaker 5: And so what I think is important for us to
Speaker 5: also understand is as a part of the Federal Housing
Speaker 5: Finance Agency, staffers have access to this information, so that
Speaker 5: I think we can close the loop there, except.
Speaker 2: That it is still private even if they have access.
Speaker 5: Yes, but if you're trying to find a reason to
Speaker 5: prosecute someone criminally and you look into their mortgage history,
Speaker 5: even if you are a solution in search of a problem,
Speaker 5: that is where you would go, and that is how
Speaker 5: they got access to it. The referral literally came from FHFA.
Speaker 5: I do think it is important to note, especially given
Speaker 5: that this is clearly our trigger show is that hello
Speaker 5: Andrew's phone, is that Lisa Cook is not just rolling
Speaker 5: over and accepting that she would be removed TIF. I
Speaker 5: know this has had to infuriate you this week. That's
Speaker 5: my other buzzword today, trigger and infuriate that they keep
Speaker 5: people on air are talking about this like he can
Speaker 5: fire her Trump Lisa Cook, Trump removes Lisa Cook. He
Speaker 5: cannot do that now, they say, for cause they have
Speaker 5: found a very tricky cause where it is arguable that
Speaker 5: the mortgage lenders that she has knows that she needed
Speaker 5: to split time. There are a number of people who
Speaker 5: split time in two residences because they work in two places.
Speaker 5: The homes were in Michigan, where she's a professor, and
Speaker 5: in Georgia, where she.
Speaker 1: Resides and also bears no responsibility or her job as
Speaker 1: a governor at the Fed Reserve.
Speaker 5: No, but the point is if she did something criminal,
Speaker 5: that is arguably for cause. But if you live in
Speaker 5: two places, I believe I would make this argument in
Speaker 5: good faith that you can have two principal residences. You know,
Speaker 5: if you spend more than half of your time in
Speaker 5: either location.
Speaker 4: It's people that work and trade.
Speaker 5: Y'all know that basically our principal residence should be on
Speaker 5: the god dying plane right right? Like I mean, that
Speaker 5: is this is so crazy that this is not called
Speaker 5: for what it is. This is a racist tactic by
Speaker 5: someone who is trafficked in racism and he continues to
Speaker 5: target black people.
Speaker 4: We should call it what it is.
Speaker 5: I appreciate the fact that Lisa Cook has said she
Speaker 5: is challenging this through her attorney. She plans to sue
Speaker 5: on whether or not he could actually remove her because
Speaker 5: there is no cause under the law, and I think
Speaker 5: that is the kind of conversation we need to be having.
Speaker 5: Not Trump is firing her. Not Trump is removing her.
Speaker 5: It's irresponsible.
Speaker 3: Okay, failure, gross failure.
Speaker 6: The only thing I would say to that is, yes,
Speaker 6: he definitely targets black people.
Speaker 3: For sure.
Speaker 6: Lisa Cook joins the three hundred thousand plus black women
Speaker 6: who have left or not. Yes, but she would join
Speaker 6: the three hundred thousand plus black women who have left
Speaker 6: the work for us. Andrew, you did a great job
Speaker 6: of pointing this out on this past week when we
Speaker 6: were in Atlanta invest Fest. Part of targeting the federal
Speaker 6: government was exiting black women out of employment. He targeted
Speaker 6: agencies were the highest number of black people were employed.
Speaker 3: So this is not something new.
Speaker 6: I would only add to that that he is indiscriminate
Speaker 6: as he's also targeting his political enemies. He has called
Speaker 6: for an investigation into former New Jersey Governor Chris Christy,
Speaker 6: who chaired his inaugural committee in twenty sixteen, and they
Speaker 6: had right, they had a romance that only ended on
Speaker 6: January sixth. As if Donald Trump wasn't terrible on the
Speaker 6: fifth fourth and decades prior to that, he's also going
Speaker 6: after John Bolton, and we have seen I'm sorry, yeah,
Speaker 6: I just mean what's happening And I don't know if
Speaker 6: something new happened with.
Speaker 2: No, No, you were right. I was just saying, you're right, people,
Speaker 2: all the people.
Speaker 6: I'm just talking about what's happened in recent recent the
Speaker 6: recent past couple of weeks with John Bolton. And the
Speaker 6: reason for Bolton is because he penned a book in
Speaker 6: twenty twenty that Trump was trying to stop. They had
Speaker 6: the unusual task of having him resentmit and resentment and
Speaker 6: resentment the manuscript for his book. So this is like
Speaker 6: a play right out of the Dictator Handbook. And the
Speaker 6: fact that we're not taking it seriously, the fact that
Speaker 6: we're still trying to both side these things, that we're
Speaker 6: presenting information like it's a done deal. And Angelus gave
Speaker 6: a great example like Trump fires Lisa Cook. I mean,
Speaker 6: this is just journalism fails, and unfortunately people are still
Speaker 6: looking to cable news for a lot of the information
Speaker 6: they get and it's such an utter failure. It's such
Speaker 6: a gross irresponsible move they're making. And even that, you know,
Speaker 6: like I think, I'm just I've run out of tears,
Speaker 6: but even that looking at one an industry that I
Speaker 6: had pursued and worked in since I was fifteen years old, too,
Speaker 6: looking at black women and what we're going through collectively,
Speaker 6: like we are so and this is not leaving out
Speaker 6: black men. I just mean black women in this moment
Speaker 6: are so goddamn heartbroken, you know, Like I don't even
Speaker 6: know how to function.
Speaker 3: Some days I do.
Speaker 6: I put one foot in front of the next, because
Speaker 6: that's all we know how to do. But it's like
Speaker 6: everywhere you look there is no safety, there is no reprieve,
Speaker 6: and it is giving me.
Speaker 3: A righteous anger.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I just I have to make adjustments, you know,
Speaker 6: like I have to make adjustments in life around you know,
Speaker 6: who I'm around.
Speaker 3: Who I'm involved with.
Speaker 6: I was sitting on a train next to this older
Speaker 6: white man who was so pressed to make conversation with me.
Speaker 6: Was a Republican, and it was just trying to talk
Speaker 6: to me, and I just wanted to say, shut up
Speaker 6: talking to me.
Speaker 3: Okay, racism with a smile.
Speaker 6: It's still some racism, Like don't be looking to me
Speaker 6: to make you feel better about your dumb asses, like
Speaker 6: you're so pressed to make me. You know, we might
Speaker 6: have more in common than you think. And I supposed
Speaker 6: to say on this show, but I wanted to say, dude,
Speaker 6: you don't talk to me. I'm losing my sense of
Speaker 6: kindness and softness. And I think that's what we went through.
Speaker 6: My grandmother like, she was a tough woman, and I
Speaker 6: think that's what she went through going through different things
Speaker 6: in the South, where you.
Speaker 3: Just you don't have an energy for that bullshit anymore now.
Speaker 2: And we have to co create their lives. So he'd be.
Speaker 1: Lying to himself if we can have differences over politics
Speaker 1: but still be at risk of the same things and
Speaker 1: have the same cares and the same worries and the
Speaker 1: same ambitions and hopes. No, sir, I can't conspire in that.
Speaker 1: It's not true fundamentally, basically, open your eyes see it.
Speaker 1: Maybe believe me when I tell you what my experience is.
Speaker 2: It's just it's it's insane. I just, y'all, this is poor.
Speaker 1: Part of what I mean by the accountability has to
Speaker 1: be in place. And I hope that left leaning thick
Speaker 1: tanks and y'all's action centers are really focused on who
Speaker 1: the perpetrators of these crimes are so that they can
Speaker 1: be held to account.
Speaker 2: I don't want to.
Speaker 1: I don't give a damn about show apology book. In
Speaker 1: the fourth year of this term, when you decide that
Speaker 1: you want to exit this administration for whatever reason, so
Speaker 1: you can set yourself up for the next job and
Speaker 1: be invited back into polite society, there is none of
Speaker 1: that for you. I believe in redemption, but I don't
Speaker 1: have to redeem you. In fact, don't look to me
Speaker 1: to redeem you. Look there's a redeemer, and I'm not him.
Speaker 1: But I'm telling you this much. All these all these
Speaker 1: characters in this play are going to try to repurpose
Speaker 1: themselves at the right time to be again part of
Speaker 1: civil society and accept it as reasonable people.
Speaker 2: But they're unreasonable. Just as you mentioned, he was detestable.
Speaker 1: On January fifth, as he was on the sixth, as
Speaker 1: the fourth, as the sixth, as the first.
Speaker 5: I tell you right, Why do we have to tell
Speaker 5: you any is worse than any of us could have imagined.
Speaker 2: Angela is not that they didn't listen, they didn't.
Speaker 15: Need to care.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they didn't share it, just like the people who said.
Speaker 1: I know he was going to strike the federal government,
Speaker 1: but I didn't think he was taking my job.
Speaker 6: Open vote for him, but I would still vote for him.
Speaker 6: All right, don't go anywhere.
Speaker 3: We're going to pick up this great conversation on the
Speaker 3: other side of this.
Speaker 6: Break to be right back, Angela, you say that that
Speaker 6: white supremacy is nonpartisan.
Speaker 3: This is just an example.
Speaker 6: IOWA in New Hampshire, our efforting to reshape the primary
Speaker 6: schedule again because they're like, hey, we want to be
Speaker 6: back at the top, we want to go first again.
Speaker 6: IOWA in New Hampshire ninety three and ninety four percent
Speaker 6: white population, respectively. This is why I cannot, in good
Speaker 6: faith get out here and talk about, you know, how
Speaker 6: dope Democrats are.
Speaker 3: I'm a Democratic voter.
Speaker 6: I'm not a spokesperson for the party, and I'm not
Speaker 6: going to swallow some bullshit right now, like they have
Speaker 6: not met the moment in my idea. And even the
Speaker 6: fact that I own that it's a conversation that they're saying,
Speaker 6: we want to go first again, lets me know that
Speaker 6: they are toned deaf to what's happening the party.
Speaker 3: It just seems to be in disarray. So I don't
Speaker 3: go ahead, go ahead.
Speaker 4: No, no, no, no, you can say I just said then
Speaker 4: I'm a fan. I'm sorry, Well, I don't even know.
Speaker 3: I just that's all.
Speaker 4: I just agree with TIFFs.
Speaker 5: I just agree with t And let me say this
Speaker 5: one thing. You know what's even more frustrating. There have
Speaker 5: been some Democrats who are meeting the moment. They are
Speaker 5: black women in their exhaustion, in their state of being
Speaker 5: triggered in having to carry this country on their backs again,
Speaker 5: after having to nurse your badass babies, after having to
Speaker 5: be your nanny yo mammy, and your cook, after having
Speaker 5: to do everything else, we are still saving you from
Speaker 5: your dumb ass selves.
Speaker 4: We're tired, how about that? Like, I am just I'm
Speaker 4: blown by this.
Speaker 5: I am so frustrated by the fact that we had
Speaker 5: to pull a whole toward together to get our people relief,
Speaker 5: and our people didn't vote this way, like I am.
Speaker 16: I am. I am crying now, I am so enraged
Speaker 16: all the time, Like I am going to do the
Speaker 16: right thing because I don't want us to die, because
Speaker 16: we don't deserve what you've done.
Speaker 5: We don't deserve to reap the consequences we didn't participate
Speaker 5: in getting here.
Speaker 4: Like I don't want to talk.
Speaker 3: I do, And the just is beyond.
Speaker 5: It's beyond, Like I literally, you guys, I know you
Speaker 5: guys just told me last week don't be on the
Speaker 5: phone in this show. And I got a text in
Speaker 5: the show with somebody like, are you sure we can
Speaker 5: go to DC for this meeting?
Speaker 3: Like it is, it is.
Speaker 4: Maddening, and I'm mad about it.
Speaker 6: My mom.
Speaker 4: I should be able to just focus on.
Speaker 5: My mom, like I just tif I have this book deadline.
Speaker 3: I should be able to focus.
Speaker 4: I'm finishing the book.
Speaker 5: I'm fighting myself because I have to argue that freedom
Speaker 5: is still our birthright and we are so not free.
Speaker 4: Like it is maddening right now, it really really is.
Speaker 4: I don't I'm just I don't know.
Speaker 6: Us right this is this is but this is how
Speaker 6: we feel. I think so many people out there feel
Speaker 6: that way.
Speaker 3: And the tears are.
Speaker 6: Not sadness, you know, it is not weird, not sad.
Speaker 6: We are so enraged right now. And it's such a
Speaker 6: good point, Angela. It's like we're going through all of
Speaker 6: these things in our real lives are still happening. Angela's
Speaker 6: I'm very open about her mother's battle with cancer. That
Speaker 6: alone is enough to consume your entire being.
Speaker 3: And we don't even.
Speaker 6: Have the freedom to breathe in that space is so frustrating.
Speaker 6: So I just feel like, in our moments of righteous anger,
Speaker 6: I'm just ready to fight. And I don't mean like
Speaker 6: fight like I want to write a policy paper. I
Speaker 6: don't mean like fight like I want to go protest
Speaker 6: like i've we mean like I wanted those two little
Speaker 6: girls who were flanked by four grown men.
Speaker 3: I wanted to yell.
Speaker 6: At them, get the fuck away from these kids and
Speaker 6: leave them alone. They had them their school uniforms, they
Speaker 6: were I didn't even realize school was back. They were
Speaker 6: walking home, these four grown men following them.
Speaker 3: And what society is that?
Speaker 6: Okay, all these Epstein dumbasses who are so goddamn concerned
Speaker 6: about child sex trafficking, who voted for Trump, who were
Speaker 6: so into it because they thought the Clintons were attached
Speaker 6: to it, this is what it looks like. Now you're
Speaker 6: letting mass men snatch girls parents off the street, and
Speaker 6: there's been so many reports of mass men pretending to
Speaker 6: be ice so they can attempt to kidnap women.
Speaker 3: Just just miss me with that bullshit. You don't really
Speaker 3: care about kids.
Speaker 6: It's just it is beyond comprehension what we're going through.
Speaker 6: And I guess the shame I personally feel for having
Speaker 6: fear is because because I don't we didn't do.
Speaker 3: This yet, but we were talking about doing.
Speaker 6: This as a mini pot at some point I think,
Speaker 6: or maybe we did, I can't remember. But what price
Speaker 6: are you willing to pay? And I just feel like
Speaker 6: we are all going to be tested right now. So
Speaker 6: for all the people who are not paying attention, who
Speaker 6: are scrolling on Instagram and TikTok and you know, talking
Speaker 6: about Taylor Swifts engagement and just bullshit, It's like, listen, you.
Speaker 3: Guys, it is on fire.
Speaker 6: Whatever invisible line you were waiting for him to cross,
Speaker 6: he has crossed it. So I love the viewers question
Speaker 6: about like I get it. Where can we build safety?
Speaker 6: Where can we build towns?
Speaker 3: And I don't. I don't know where that is. But
Speaker 3: I'll tell you what what I'm feeling right now.
Speaker 6: I want to get out of here, like I can't
Speaker 6: stay in DC feeling like this every day.
Speaker 3: It is just not good for.
Speaker 4: My have a room at my house.
Speaker 7: Tip.
Speaker 3: I keep wanting to come to Seattle because what you've
Speaker 3: never been, but.
Speaker 1: What you're pointing out Tip is the truth is is
Speaker 1: is any place?
Speaker 2: Is there?
Speaker 1: Keep running and right now within the boundaries of this place,
Speaker 1: given the lawlessness, and and I think I know where
Speaker 1: you were going with miss me, with what you say,
Speaker 1: you believe and you protect children. What I know now
Speaker 1: after having observed first the first go round and now
Speaker 1: this one, is that there is no faithful belief system
Speaker 1: on their side. Those are lies. Those are the convenient
Speaker 1: lives we tell ourselves to get us past a thing.
Speaker 2: But it isn't true.
Speaker 1: And now that I know it's not true, my tolerance
Speaker 1: level for all the reasons you give for being four
Speaker 1: and against and holding the flag and protect law enforcement
Speaker 1: and fund all of that.
Speaker 2: It's a sham.
Speaker 1: I just wish y'all would say it to yourselves, just
Speaker 1: admit to yourselves, Oh, I'm only really in this for
Speaker 1: the convenience, the political expedience of the matter. Like I
Speaker 1: ride with this guy because he's gonna do and say
Speaker 1: the things that I can't get away with doing and
Speaker 1: saying and keep my job. But he can do and
Speaker 1: say and keep his job. And yes, you get a
Speaker 1: little bit uncomfortable when the babies are on the television
Speaker 1: and they're crying and the separation, and you may have
Speaker 1: a moment of humanity, but in the recesses of your mind,
Speaker 1: you're in complete solidarity with what the man is doing,
Speaker 1: because if you weren't, you wouldn't have put him back
Speaker 1: there in the first place. You cannot say I don't
Speaker 1: think you can say it the first time, but you absolutely,
Speaker 1: in this condition cannot say you didn't know. Everybody knew
Speaker 1: the second time they went to the ballot, to the polls.
Speaker 2: Third time, I guess, on this guy to the polls.
Speaker 2: You knew what you were getting.
Speaker 1: You knew, and you still invited it, you still sanctioned it,
Speaker 1: and through your silence, you're still co conspiring in it.
Speaker 2: So I just y'all.
Speaker 1: In democracies, leaders get to govern with the consent of
Speaker 1: the people, and at the point that we remove our consent,
Speaker 1: they're no longer our leaders. I'm not trying to be
Speaker 1: a violent rhetorical person, but I'm simply saying, the American
Speaker 1: people have to wake up and demonstrate that this is
Speaker 1: not who we are, or you can consent through your
Speaker 1: silence and say this is exactly.
Speaker 2: Who we are. And I'm okay with it. I'm gonna.
Speaker 5: A third options. This is who we are, and I'm
Speaker 5: not good with that. I'm doing different, Yeah, we're going
Speaker 5: to do it different. But it is who we are, or.
Speaker 4: It is who they are, and it is who they
Speaker 4: come to it for sixteen.
Speaker 1: And unfortunately, through through through through our abeysins, we then
Speaker 1: give shelter to it. And what I'm saying about so
Speaker 1: for instance, and in LA, they drove them out through
Speaker 1: their protests an overwhelming number, an overwhelming number, sure of support,
Speaker 1: such to the point that law enforcement with guns more
Speaker 1: powerful than any that we can own privately, had to
Speaker 1: had to rescind their line. They retreated their line. Thank you,
Speaker 1: Angela retreated their line. And the same has to be
Speaker 1: true Chicago. You've got much of as much of a warning.
Speaker 1: My brother lives there, God knows, I want it for
Speaker 1: his safety more than anything. But they have to we
Speaker 1: have to meet their force with our presence. Their presence
Speaker 1: must be must must look like ants on a heel
Speaker 1: in comparison to us saying you are not welcomed here.
Speaker 1: And I get that many of these people are just
Speaker 1: average people who are being called into service and have
Speaker 1: to render themselves to the government when they when they
Speaker 1: say come, But what does What does disobeying illegal order
Speaker 1: look like? What does it mean for a person in
Speaker 1: law enforcement or in the uniform to say we cannot
Speaker 1: execute on an unjust or in illegal order?
Speaker 3: What does that look like?
Speaker 2: Honest? I want to know.
Speaker 1: In fact, I hope we get the guests that we're
Speaker 1: we hope to see in a few because I want
Speaker 1: to ask not to not to include him in what
Speaker 1: my conclusion may be here, but to say, what does
Speaker 1: it look like if you are obliged to not have
Speaker 1: to follow illegal and unjust orders? What does it look
Speaker 1: like to stand up and say, I'm sorry man? That
Speaker 1: video that show the black officer leaned against the car.
Speaker 1: He was embarrassed to be put on that video, the
Speaker 1: black officer next to the.
Speaker 4: That's what needs to happen. You need to be embarrassing.
Speaker 1: But what does it mean to say, I am in
Speaker 1: law enforcement and what this is is not enforcing the law.
Speaker 2: In fact, we are acting in contradiction to it is
Speaker 2: in the moment.
Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, y'all, So listen, we are working, of
Speaker 1: course to get a general Honooray to join us. But
Speaker 1: as you imagine, twenty year anniversary of Katrina, he's got
Speaker 1: lots of demands on his time, so we may end
Speaker 1: up bringing that to you in a mini bod, but
Speaker 1: we are going to get it to you as.
Speaker 2: Soon as we have it. And of course, on the
Speaker 2: other side of the break.
Speaker 1: You'll hear from myself and our co host about some
Speaker 1: calls to actions. Say, all right, y'all, I know it's
Speaker 1: been a heavy, heavy, heavy show and I really at
Speaker 1: some level hate it because it always just feels like
Speaker 1: everything's heavy. But on the other hand, you know what,
Speaker 1: we have to face reality with reality. This is the situation.
Speaker 1: This is what it is, and hopefully you hear our
Speaker 1: frustration and probably share in it and also our hearts
Speaker 1: as they break of our community. Y'all, as we wrap
Speaker 1: this show up, I'd love to hear if you have
Speaker 1: any calls to actions for our listening fam as we
Speaker 1: close this out, reflect on Katrina this weekend and ship
Speaker 1: our survival beyond that.
Speaker 6: Well, I'll just say my CTA is tell people what's
Speaker 6: going on, because when I was, like I said in Atlanta,
Speaker 6: when I was trying to explain it to people, it
Speaker 6: was kind of a shoulder shrug, like they didn't really
Speaker 6: get it, and not everyone is plugged in and that's
Speaker 6: like I'm a little disconnected from things, just from my
Speaker 6: own sanity. But spread the word and take it seriously.
Speaker 6: Understand that this level of authoritarianism will not exists only
Speaker 6: in the belt Way. It will cast a dark shadow
Speaker 6: across the country. And democracy is something that has to
Speaker 6: be fought for and has to be defended. And we
Speaker 6: have our elders who are still alive who did that
Speaker 6: for us. And I can't tell you what actions to
Speaker 6: take because I don't know what's happening in everybody's jurisdiction.
Speaker 6: But at minimum be aware because you may be able
Speaker 6: to tell us an action that we need to take.
Speaker 6: And then find reputable outlets wich you say, well, where
Speaker 6: should I do? I hate the New York Times political coverage,
Speaker 6: but that's something anything that is giving you reliable information
Speaker 6: about what is happening, what's going on. At least be
Speaker 6: aware and spread the word. Ignorance is not gonna save us.
Speaker 6: That is the enemy right now.
Speaker 4: That is the gospel. Truth. Mine is on the facts.
Speaker 5: We have a listener question, call in or come in,
Speaker 5: and I want to play this listener question with my response,
Speaker 5: which is a fetch.
Speaker 14: A good day, Nail Lampard come to you all today,
Speaker 14: not with a question, but more so like voicing my
Speaker 14: opinion and a little bit of frustration with Angela. This week,
Speaker 14: Angela did a mini pod with state rep and the
Speaker 14: Cold Callier, and I felt like she should have pushed
Speaker 14: back on her more when it came to the point
Speaker 14: of when the state reps started talking about like mining
Speaker 14: individuals California and stuff like that. I'm paraphrasing, but she
Speaker 14: essentially said, you know, Textas gonna go through their maps,
Speaker 14: but she feels okay knowing that California's gonna come behind
Speaker 14: them with five redistrict seats for Democrats. And I think
Speaker 14: what was missed there is that Texas gonna redistrict out
Speaker 14: two black members that we probably would never get back,
Speaker 14: and whatever comes out of California is not guaranteed. The
Speaker 14: we're gonna get two black representatives back more likely won't happen.
Speaker 14: So I felt like we let angel let her off
Speaker 14: the hook. And oftentimes I feel like we do that
Speaker 14: a lot with Democrats. We don't push them enough, pressure
Speaker 14: them enough to get the results they were looking for.
Speaker 14: So how am frustration that Eder didn't catch her and
Speaker 14: then she didn't push back on her more on that.
Speaker 14: So I just wanted to come to you all with
Speaker 14: that one like that because I thought the state rivers
Speaker 14: out of line when she said that.
Speaker 5: And on that we have two fact check moments from
Speaker 5: that interview, So let's roll the first one, are you
Speaker 5: experiencing or feeling any regret at coming back home to
Speaker 5: face this kind of madness I think, which is almost
Speaker 5: worse than what you all experienced leaving. And the second
Speaker 5: earlier you referenced the California maps, the fact that Governor
Speaker 5: k Newsom has taken some action, and that was one.
Speaker 4: Of the precursors for some of you at least to return.
Speaker 5: What do you say to the people who say that's
Speaker 5: great for California, but what does that have to do
Speaker 5: with folks who need representation from black and brown folks
Speaker 5: in Texas?
Speaker 4: How do you respond to that? Okay, So I.
Speaker 5: Actually agree with you, brother, and I raised those questions.
Speaker 5: I hope you will go back and listen. Maybe your
Speaker 5: point is that you don't think I pushed it hard.
Speaker 5: There are a lot of people who think I pushed
Speaker 5: too hard, and she is an American hero, and I
Speaker 5: actually do think that given everything that Nicole went through,
Speaker 5: being back in Texas after deciding to go back to Texas.
Speaker 4: She certainly is a hero Sturter ground.
Speaker 5: Nonetheless, the Texas maps have passed, and nonetheless California said
Speaker 5: that they going to go forward and do something. California's
Speaker 5: demographics are a lot different than Texas, and so I
Speaker 5: don't think that it is a substitute to change one
Speaker 5: for the other and we are going to be all good.
Speaker 5: I don't think this is merely political jerry mandering, as
Speaker 5: we've talked about on this show. It is also racist
Speaker 5: and so on that note, my call to action would be,
Speaker 5: please make sure to fact check. And we got two
Speaker 5: of these, let's make sure we use them. I need
Speaker 5: to do a better job myself.
Speaker 1: I definitely received the big point though, because in Florida
Speaker 1: we have eliminated the black representation there, and the same
Speaker 1: is obviously as a result of this in Texas California.
Speaker 1: We know our CBC members are struggling each cycle, curious
Speaker 1: whether or not they will be returned because increasingly they're
Speaker 1: representing yes, minority districts, but minority districts that are majority Latino.
Speaker 1: That's right, and while their coalition politics are different out there,
Speaker 1: I envy it in some ways. At some point we
Speaker 1: know that there is going to be an intersection where
Speaker 1: we're gonna go one way or another. And it's it's maddening,
Speaker 1: and this is my ctia. It's just maddening to see
Speaker 1: the work at erasure of us that you know. It's like,
Speaker 1: you want to look up our history, tell us that
Speaker 1: slavery was good for us. Tell me that I got
Speaker 1: the skills that I got today because I was enslave.
Speaker 2: Chattled to.
Speaker 1: Kick all black women out of the ability to provide
Speaker 1: for themselves in their family. That's the exact reason why
Speaker 1: they go after black women is because they know what
Speaker 1: it means to destroy the black family. You take away
Speaker 1: the black women, you take away her ability to earn
Speaker 1: and to provide. Come on, ma'am, then that's our kids' futures.
Speaker 1: So they and then now our representation and the effort
Speaker 1: at this And I guess the CTA is is.
Speaker 2: We have to become awake.
Speaker 1: But also, y'all, we have to start taking names numbers
Speaker 1: because Trump won't be here forever as much as he
Speaker 1: wants to be.
Speaker 2: I have faith that that will not come to pass.
Speaker 1: And when folks on the other when Democrats, the opposing
Speaker 1: party do get in power.
Speaker 2: It is we have to learn the right lesson From
Speaker 2: this moment.
Speaker 1: You'll piss ant pushback has equalted nothing, and now we
Speaker 1: have to result to tactics that are more effective, not illegal,
Speaker 1: but that are effective and that hold these people who
Speaker 1: account for what they have done to us. If we
Speaker 1: fail to do that, we're inviting its repetition period. So
Speaker 1: we thank you all of my co hosts, you all
Speaker 1: our listeners. Again, heavier episode, but you know what we
Speaker 1: gotta We gotta take the tough cough syrup sometimes, the
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