WEBVTT - Tears, Trauma, Triggered 0:00:00.560 --> 0:00:03.840 Native Lampod is a production of iHeartRadio in partnership with 0:00:04.000 --> 0:00:08.240 Reason Choice Media. Welcome, Welcome, Welcome, Welcome, Welcome. 0:00:07.920 --> 0:00:09.039 Welcome, Welcome home. We all. 0:00:09.119 --> 0:00:13.520 This is episode counted, episode ninety four of Native Lamppod, 0:00:13.640 --> 0:00:16.160 where we give you our breakdown and thoughts on all 0:00:16.200 --> 0:00:19.520 things politics, a little bit of culture sprinkles, and that 0:00:19.720 --> 0:00:23.000 we are your hosts Tiffany Cross, Angela Rode, and I'm 0:00:23.040 --> 0:00:24.639 Andrew Gella on what's up everybody? 0:00:25.079 --> 0:00:25.639 What's up? 0:00:25.920 --> 0:00:26.200 Hello? 0:00:26.280 --> 0:00:27.520 Hello, Hello. 0:00:28.000 --> 0:00:31.280 I understand that we got a pack show today, so 0:00:31.360 --> 0:00:33.839 we will not be labor in any way, shape or 0:00:33.840 --> 0:00:37.239 form other than to say that investments was kind of 0:00:37.240 --> 0:00:40.000 cool and is that you get you all to reflect 0:00:40.000 --> 0:00:40.600 on that a moment. 0:00:41.120 --> 0:00:42.680 But what are we talking about otherwise? 0:00:44.800 --> 0:00:46.839 Well, there's a lot going on in the country right now. 0:00:46.880 --> 0:00:50.760 As you all know, we are right upon the twentieth 0:00:50.800 --> 0:00:54.720 anniversary of Hurricane Katrina, and we have a very special 0:00:54.720 --> 0:00:57.840 guest today to talk to us about the lessons learned 0:00:57.920 --> 0:01:00.520 if any boy this country, especially as they're talking about 0:01:00.520 --> 0:01:03.360 getting rid of FEMA. That man is none other than 0:01:03.360 --> 0:01:06.199 the legendary General Russell Honore. 0:01:06.360 --> 0:01:08.240 So I'm thrilled to be talking with him. Today. 0:01:08.840 --> 0:01:11.600 Yeah, I'll join you in that, Tiffany, what you get 0:01:11.600 --> 0:01:12.360 on your mind. 0:01:12.959 --> 0:01:15.280 You know, I'm coming to you from the nation's capital. 0:01:15.520 --> 0:01:18.200 And this week the President announced that he would be 0:01:18.280 --> 0:01:22.959 taking over Union Station, which is home to Amtrak, a 0:01:23.000 --> 0:01:27.760 food court, and several retail outlets there. So I want 0:01:27.760 --> 0:01:30.200 to dig into what's happening here on the ground. 0:01:30.640 --> 0:01:31.440 Yeah, so wild. 0:01:31.600 --> 0:01:33.920 And we've of course been observing all the videos that 0:01:34.040 --> 0:01:38.920 citizen reporters have been taken of their experiences under Ystopian. 0:01:39.520 --> 0:01:42.399 I want to say, gangst the led takeover of an 0:01:42.440 --> 0:01:45.400 American city, and I just want to add to the 0:01:45.400 --> 0:01:50.080 conversation that we should warn the next city that is 0:01:50.120 --> 0:01:52.440 on his radar, the city of Chicago, and we'll take 0:01:52.440 --> 0:01:55.560 a look at what the mayor and his team there 0:01:55.600 --> 0:01:59.720 are doing in preparation for and what words of advice 0:01:59.760 --> 0:02:02.680 he has for anyone who is really truly interested in 0:02:02.680 --> 0:02:04.880 bringing down the crime rate, not only in his city 0:02:04.880 --> 0:02:08.480 but across the nation. So we got a full deck 0:02:08.840 --> 0:02:10.760 on hand, y'all, Did I miss anything or we go? 0:02:11.160 --> 0:02:12.120 We're good with those dobies. 0:02:12.280 --> 0:02:14.040 If we don't get to it, at least in the 0:02:14.040 --> 0:02:16.840 mini pod, we should talk about Donald Trump's obsession, at 0:02:16.919 --> 0:02:19.200 least it appears to be an obsession with black women 0:02:19.240 --> 0:02:22.119 and attacking them. Lisa Cook is one of them, the 0:02:22.160 --> 0:02:24.960 only black women on the board of the Federal Reserve, 0:02:25.440 --> 0:02:26.760 and he is going after her. 0:02:26.800 --> 0:02:28.520 We should talk about that and why and if he 0:02:28.600 --> 0:02:29.640 has any recourse at. 0:02:29.520 --> 0:02:32.600 All, absolutely, absolutely, So let's get into it. 0:02:35.160 --> 0:02:37.400 What's up, Native lampod Kay. 0:02:37.520 --> 0:02:39.880 I'm calling him from the Great State of Georgia, and 0:02:39.960 --> 0:02:44.160 my question is about how to go about establishing a 0:02:44.440 --> 0:02:49.760 municipal town. I'd like to see a city where the 0:02:49.840 --> 0:02:55.920 police force is private and I feel like that's really 0:02:55.960 --> 0:02:58.640 the only way to ensure our protection is black people. 0:02:59.600 --> 0:03:02.640 I'd like to have to be a part of a 0:03:02.680 --> 0:03:07.200 community that is self sufficient, self reliant, has its own 0:03:07.240 --> 0:03:13.720 food source, community healers, and to you know, be able 0:03:13.760 --> 0:03:19.440 to build in an era of reconstruction, totally independent of 0:03:20.160 --> 0:03:22.079 the government and the systems that. 0:03:23.480 --> 0:03:27.799 Are really destructive. So I'd love to get your thoughts. 0:03:27.520 --> 0:03:31.280 On how to establish your town and uh and if 0:03:31.360 --> 0:03:34.000 and if I'm successful, Andrew Gillen, will you will you 0:03:34.080 --> 0:03:34.600 be the mayor? 0:03:35.640 --> 0:03:36.000 Thanks? 0:03:37.560 --> 0:03:38.200 Not a chance. 0:03:42.640 --> 0:03:45.040 I was about to volunteer Tiffany and you and Tiffany 0:03:45.080 --> 0:03:48.440 will be co mayors of this said resilient town. 0:03:48.480 --> 0:03:51.240 What you said, Tiffany, I just I love that question. 0:03:51.320 --> 0:03:54.560 And literally as she was speaking, she took the words 0:03:54.600 --> 0:03:56.960 out of my mouth because I was like, Andrew could 0:03:57.400 --> 0:03:58.040 be the mayor. 0:03:58.280 --> 0:04:00.280 But also I had that same question question. 0:04:00.440 --> 0:04:02.320 Unfortunately I don't have an answer for her, but I 0:04:02.360 --> 0:04:04.600 definitely have that question, and I love that innovative way 0:04:04.600 --> 0:04:05.080 of thinking. 0:04:05.560 --> 0:04:08.320 I do too. I thought it was powerful Angela. Maybe 0:04:08.320 --> 0:04:09.320 between the two of us, who can. 0:04:09.200 --> 0:04:09.640 Figure it out. 0:04:09.640 --> 0:04:13.120 But I will say most cities UH in a state 0:04:13.200 --> 0:04:19.440 are chartered by their counties. The county government has jurisdiction 0:04:19.520 --> 0:04:24.919 of all subjects you know, UH municipality known as cities 0:04:25.520 --> 0:04:29.359 beneath it, and some places you have a county that 0:04:29.600 --> 0:04:31.640 is a county in a city all in itself. So 0:04:31.680 --> 0:04:35.680 there are no other subject of cities in my state 0:04:35.720 --> 0:04:38.840 of Florida. I think we may only have three, two 0:04:38.960 --> 0:04:41.440 or three and don't don't quote me, but but but 0:04:41.560 --> 0:04:45.360 a very dominious number of cities are both the city 0:04:45.440 --> 0:04:49.479 and the county itself. In fact, Jacksonville, Duval County is 0:04:49.520 --> 0:04:53.000 one of those, which making it the largest UH city 0:04:53.080 --> 0:04:56.080 in the United States of America land mass wise, I'm 0:04:56.120 --> 0:04:58.719 guessing that Georgia works very similarly, and I'll do some 0:04:58.839 --> 0:05:02.360 quick aologized I didn't prep up on your your question 0:05:02.520 --> 0:05:05.280 before to our listener, but do some quick research to 0:05:05.400 --> 0:05:09.560 verify this. But I'm almost certain that UH put citizens 0:05:09.600 --> 0:05:13.840 in a jurisdictional area can come together to petition the 0:05:13.880 --> 0:05:17.320 county that they live in to charter them as a city. 0:05:18.480 --> 0:05:22.240 That city, then, once UH chartered by the by the 0:05:22.279 --> 0:05:26.560 county government, can operate as any city would, city services, 0:05:26.680 --> 0:05:30.680 municipal services. In some places, they have conditions by which 0:05:30.720 --> 0:05:33.040 you would have to contract with the county for certain services, 0:05:33.279 --> 0:05:36.839 but you basically get to operate like an autonomous city. 0:05:37.560 --> 0:05:37.920 Wow. 0:05:39.040 --> 0:05:41.040 I think that's what just happened. Yeah, I think that's 0:05:41.040 --> 0:05:43.080 what just happened with East Baton Rouge last year. I 0:05:43.120 --> 0:05:47.120 believe so, yes, But I like the question too. I 0:05:47.160 --> 0:05:50.680 think the thing that struck me, you know, especially as 0:05:50.960 --> 0:05:53.840 we get ready for this conversation about d C y'all, is, 0:05:54.320 --> 0:05:57.120 you know, people, especially those who look like us, who 0:05:57.120 --> 0:06:00.600 have felt this in their bodies in some ways ancestrally, 0:06:00.960 --> 0:06:03.520 are just looking for relief. And you can almost hear 0:06:04.040 --> 0:06:07.360 that plea for relief, something that feels like safety, something 0:06:07.360 --> 0:06:09.840 that feels that it like it won't be threatened in 0:06:09.880 --> 0:06:12.200 her and her question, So my heart goes out to you, 0:06:12.279 --> 0:06:16.240 my friend. Yeah, and definitely and all in on whatever 0:06:16.279 --> 0:06:18.920 solutions we can come up with collectively. And if I 0:06:19.000 --> 0:06:20.640 was going to be in a buncket somewhere, it would 0:06:20.680 --> 0:06:21.360 be with these two. 0:06:21.480 --> 0:06:23.560 So I know we can help her figure it out. 0:06:24.000 --> 0:06:26.479 And I you know, look, this is happening. I don't 0:06:26.480 --> 0:06:28.560 know if you guys remember, but a few weeks ago, 0:06:29.480 --> 0:06:33.280 this far right community they were building this white's only 0:06:33.400 --> 0:06:37.240 community in this remote part of the Ozarks in northeastern Arkansas, 0:06:38.040 --> 0:06:42.520 with the possibility of even expanding into Missouri. And so 0:06:42.600 --> 0:06:44.760 I think they thought it was going to be controversial 0:06:45.200 --> 0:06:47.040 that it was this white's only community, and all the 0:06:47.040 --> 0:06:51.200 black people were like, bye, say you guys, good luck, 0:06:51.600 --> 0:06:54.800 Like we actually support this. Yes, go build your white's 0:06:54.800 --> 0:06:58.920 only community and stay the fuk out of our communities 0:06:58.960 --> 0:07:02.040 like it brings us really and safety. If you are 0:07:03.240 --> 0:07:07.960 you know, and as no nationalist group, then by all 0:07:08.080 --> 0:07:11.280 means stay amongst yourselves. My concern, though, I will tell 0:07:11.320 --> 0:07:15.200 you about not her question, but about this solution, is 0:07:15.200 --> 0:07:18.560 we have tried that we have done that. Of course, 0:07:18.560 --> 0:07:21.920 people always go to Tulsa. But Tulsa was not the anomaly, 0:07:22.040 --> 0:07:25.640 it was the norm. Every time we created safety. Those 0:07:25.640 --> 0:07:28.240 people in Tulsa weren't bothering anybody, and most of our 0:07:28.240 --> 0:07:31.800 communities we weren't bothering anybody, and white people came along 0:07:31.960 --> 0:07:36.440 and violently destroyed it. And the example of Tulsa, this 0:07:36.480 --> 0:07:40.120 will transition us to DC. You had the example of 0:07:40.320 --> 0:07:43.560 the military turning on its own people. It was so 0:07:43.760 --> 0:07:46.160 the Department of Justice even found it was so well 0:07:46.280 --> 0:07:52.360 coordinated that it was done with government officials, with Oklahoma's 0:07:52.400 --> 0:07:58.680 National Guard. They were a part of murdering thousands of residents, women, children. 0:08:00.080 --> 0:08:03.800 So it's I just wonder, is there relief for us here? 0:08:03.920 --> 0:08:08.679 Even if we constructed a city, how long before white 0:08:08.720 --> 0:08:12.880 folks came and destroyed it? Which I will say is 0:08:13.080 --> 0:08:18.160 why lately I have been feeling, you know, just because 0:08:18.160 --> 0:08:20.560 of the life I've lived. I think I have lived 0:08:20.560 --> 0:08:23.600 a pretty fearless life so far. 0:08:24.040 --> 0:08:26.040 So far, I got a lot of life left. Girls. 0:08:26.120 --> 0:08:29.680 But this is my point, I will leap without looking, 0:08:29.920 --> 0:08:33.679 you know, because when you don't have a lot of stability, 0:08:33.720 --> 0:08:36.000 and like that's just the norm, you know, like I'll 0:08:36.040 --> 0:08:37.880 move to DC. I don't know anybody in DC. I've 0:08:37.880 --> 0:08:41.040 never been there, but sure I'll move. You know, I'll 0:08:41.240 --> 0:08:42.760 start this job. I don't know if I could do it, 0:08:42.800 --> 0:08:45.240 but sure I'll do it. And for the first time 0:08:45.280 --> 0:08:48.680 in my life, I feel fear. I really do. I 0:08:48.720 --> 0:08:51.520 feel fear. And when we were in Atlanta, invest fat 0:08:51.559 --> 0:08:55.680 shout out to Rashad and Troy who hosts this event 0:08:55.760 --> 0:08:58.679 with ten, I would say about ten thousand people were 0:08:58.679 --> 0:09:03.160 probably there. Yeah, twenty thousand, so ten exactly, say tens 0:09:03.160 --> 0:09:06.320 of thousands of people. How can is some of the people, 0:09:06.440 --> 0:09:09.280 even the hair and makeup team, but also the people there. 0:09:10.280 --> 0:09:13.320 As amazing as it was to see this curiosity around 0:09:13.320 --> 0:09:17.120 financial literacy inside while we were on that stage, a 0:09:17.160 --> 0:09:19.200 part of me felt like, is this a little tone 0:09:19.280 --> 0:09:22.160 deuff that we're sitting here talking about building wealth while 0:09:22.200 --> 0:09:25.360 the country around us is falling. So we were able 0:09:25.400 --> 0:09:29.160 to merge those conversations a bit in Reverend Jamal Harrison 0:09:29.200 --> 0:09:33.760 Brian gave I thought some really insightful words around trying 0:09:33.800 --> 0:09:38.599 to merge those two thoughts, those two agendas, because the 0:09:38.679 --> 0:09:43.520 federal takeover of DC is absolutely frightening, and I believe 0:09:43.559 --> 0:09:48.320 we may have sound that Angela found of what it's 0:09:48.400 --> 0:10:05.439 like for the residents here. 0:10:03.040 --> 0:10:16.040 So for those of you who are listening and not watching, 0:10:16.160 --> 0:10:19.080 even those of you who are watching, that was outside 0:10:19.080 --> 0:10:22.719 of Gallery Place, Gallery Place metro station in d C. 0:10:22.960 --> 0:10:26.960 There's a woman being arrested by transit police but also 0:10:27.160 --> 0:10:30.319 the United States Park Police, and this is far outside 0:10:30.320 --> 0:10:32.880 of their jurisdiction, far outside of what they're trained to do. 0:10:33.760 --> 0:10:35.480 She would stop for fair evasion. 0:10:35.920 --> 0:10:37.360 I don't know if you want to go back and 0:10:37.400 --> 0:10:40.280 count the number of officers who were involved in that altercation, 0:10:40.679 --> 0:10:43.400 but this was about fair invasion, she said, evasion, and 0:10:43.440 --> 0:10:46.120 she said that on her phone she had proof that 0:10:46.200 --> 0:10:49.520 she paid the fare. They end up putting her into 0:10:49.840 --> 0:10:52.760 a police car. They search her bag, they take her 0:10:52.760 --> 0:10:55.920 phone out of her back pocket, and it's also they 0:10:55.960 --> 0:10:58.160 could find an ID. They start taking pictures of her. 0:10:58.200 --> 0:11:02.040 I d there's all of these challenges constitutionally with this stop, 0:11:02.200 --> 0:11:05.640 with this arrest. And I think what also is important 0:11:05.679 --> 0:11:08.240 is there are young people who are watching what's happening 0:11:08.320 --> 0:11:11.880 in DC and they actually are protesting as well. 0:11:11.960 --> 0:11:13.120 Let's take a look at this clip. 0:11:14.120 --> 0:11:18.040 We are here today because young people deserve to be celebrated. 0:11:18.559 --> 0:11:21.000 Young people deserve to be loved, they deserve to be 0:11:21.080 --> 0:11:23.839 cared for, and they deserve to be recognized as the 0:11:23.920 --> 0:11:27.640 leaders that they are, not the leaders of the future, 0:11:28.000 --> 0:11:33.840 but the leaders of today. I stand before you because 0:11:34.000 --> 0:11:40.680 DC is on us to support our young people today, tomorrow, 0:11:41.000 --> 0:11:43.400 and in every moment ongoing. 0:11:44.240 --> 0:11:47.640 It's on us to show up for young people, talk. 0:11:47.400 --> 0:11:50.880 With them, encourage them, make sure they have the information 0:11:51.000 --> 0:11:53.840 they need to make the decisions that are best for 0:11:54.000 --> 0:11:59.840 their well being. Support our teachers, social workers, coaches, staff, 0:12:00.160 --> 0:12:02.560 all the workers who support young people day in and 0:12:02.600 --> 0:12:06.560 deep day out, and most of all, it is our 0:12:06.640 --> 0:12:10.720 obligation to be in solidarity with these young people, especially 0:12:10.760 --> 0:12:12.040 while they are being attacked. 0:12:13.000 --> 0:12:14.480 Listen to our young people. 0:12:15.200 --> 0:12:19.400 Care how everything that is happening right now is affecting them. 0:12:19.720 --> 0:12:23.320 Care their solutions, They're brilliance, their power. 0:12:24.320 --> 0:12:27.120 I think that what's so important about this, y'all, is 0:12:27.320 --> 0:12:31.040 that young people are being impacted and traumatized by what 0:12:31.080 --> 0:12:34.680 they're seeing every single day. There's another young woman who 0:12:34.760 --> 0:12:37.360 went to arraignment court. You can imagine that given the 0:12:37.440 --> 0:12:42.520 number of frivolous arrests, I would argue frivolous the arrangment 0:12:42.559 --> 0:12:44.240 court is backed up. So let's take a look at 0:12:44.280 --> 0:12:46.400 what this citizen says. She saw an arrangement court. 0:12:46.800 --> 0:12:49.559 They are locking people up for any and everything. Four 0:12:49.559 --> 0:12:52.520 people were arrested yesterday for being in a public party. 0:12:52.600 --> 0:12:56.480 They arrested a barred attorney. We just saw him an 0:12:56.559 --> 0:12:59.920 arrangement court like ten minutes ago. And this is what 0:13:00.120 --> 0:13:04.000 the judge said today verb beatim. I am forbidden from 0:13:04.080 --> 0:13:07.840 ruling on the Fourth Amendment violations. And this is very 0:13:07.880 --> 0:13:12.520 clearly a Fourth Amendment violation because I found probable calls. 0:13:13.000 --> 0:13:15.600 I have to hold you. No Trump trying to hold 0:13:15.640 --> 0:13:16.760 DC for ransom. 0:13:17.120 --> 0:13:20.520 The attorney she referenced in that clip is Paul Brian. 0:13:20.640 --> 0:13:24.040 He's a corporate attorney, a black man who's worked in 0:13:24.080 --> 0:13:27.280 some firms in DC and also is a United States 0:13:27.440 --> 0:13:29.040 veteran as. 0:13:28.920 --> 0:13:30.800 An officer of the DC Bar. 0:13:31.720 --> 0:13:34.920 That these officers are violating my civil rights. 0:13:34.600 --> 0:13:36.679 Under federal law, and I will be. 0:13:36.640 --> 0:13:40.040 Pressing charges when everyone who has physically touched me tonight, 0:13:40.440 --> 0:13:42.959 who has applied pressure to me in ways. 0:13:42.640 --> 0:13:44.760 That I will not forget anytime soon. 0:13:45.200 --> 0:13:48.800 This is tragic in a country where black men are 0:13:48.840 --> 0:13:51.160 being killed by people that look just like this. I 0:13:51.280 --> 0:13:53.720 was sneered at, I was ignored, and I was not 0:13:53.840 --> 0:13:55.120 told why I was being detained. 0:13:55.160 --> 0:13:56.679 What are the names of the two officers holding you 0:13:56.760 --> 0:13:57.040 right now? 0:13:57.240 --> 0:14:00.720 Officer at Costello, at Castello, he has his name blocked off. 0:14:00.760 --> 0:14:02.240 I do not know what it is and I don't 0:14:02.240 --> 0:14:04.400 want to touch him for fear of my life. This 0:14:04.640 --> 0:14:07.280 is an FBI agent who I do not know. 0:14:08.400 --> 0:14:09.199 Aren't they only. 0:14:09.000 --> 0:14:10.480 Allowed to wolkisten minutes? 0:14:10.640 --> 0:14:14.200 None for thou they are trying to manufacture evidence. I 0:14:14.240 --> 0:14:16.480 do not have a magazine in my weabdon because my 0:14:16.520 --> 0:14:17.640 magazine is in the. 0:14:17.559 --> 0:14:19.400 Trumpet my vehicle, which they would have. 0:14:19.360 --> 0:14:20.600 Known if they would have asked me. 0:14:20.760 --> 0:14:21.760 They did not ask me. 0:14:22.480 --> 0:14:25.600 My magazine is in the trumpet. To the American people watching, 0:14:25.960 --> 0:14:31.120 this is what calling out a failed system looks like. LOOKID, 0:14:31.720 --> 0:14:36.920 I was walking peacefully down this block and I was 0:14:36.960 --> 0:14:43.080 accosted by twenty no lesser than twenty MPD, FBI, ATF 0:14:43.760 --> 0:14:48.080 agents and officers. 0:14:51.360 --> 0:14:52.280 I am not crazy. 0:14:52.480 --> 0:14:55.160 I am totally saying I have complied with all of 0:14:55.200 --> 0:14:57.800 these officers requests, and thirty minutes after. 0:14:57.600 --> 0:15:00.240 Being detained, I remained detained and I'm not you were 0:15:00.400 --> 0:15:00.760 able to go. 0:15:01.160 --> 0:15:03.200 I do not know what charges. I do not know 0:15:03.240 --> 0:15:07.560 why being detained. I was given no information. No officers 0:15:07.600 --> 0:15:11.520 will offering me any type of pre no type of respite. 0:15:11.880 --> 0:15:18.360 Nothing similarly to just stand here and be handcuffed while 0:15:18.400 --> 0:15:23.320 we wait to find magazines that do not exist, or we. 0:15:23.240 --> 0:15:24.480 Will find one for you. 0:15:25.880 --> 0:15:27.080 I assume that is the case. 0:15:30.680 --> 0:15:33.880 So I wanted to just bring that to you all. 0:15:34.880 --> 0:15:37.160 And you know, again, as Tip said, she's living there, 0:15:37.680 --> 0:15:41.240 she's having to bear witness to this. There are organizations 0:15:41.240 --> 0:15:44.120 that I just want to acknowledge Free d C. Harriet 0:15:44.120 --> 0:15:47.240 Stream who are doing the work of organizing our young people, 0:15:47.360 --> 0:15:51.440 providing safe spaces for them to get around, same thing 0:15:51.440 --> 0:15:54.800 with our elders. This is a really scary time, and 0:15:54.880 --> 0:15:57.320 I think the worst thing is we have always been taught, 0:15:57.400 --> 0:16:00.000 especially as an attorney, I've always been taught that when 0:16:00.200 --> 0:16:03.240 an officer violates the law, you will always be able 0:16:03.280 --> 0:16:05.120 to lean up on the safety of justice in a 0:16:05.160 --> 0:16:07.720 courtroom and to hear what that judge told them. An 0:16:07.800 --> 0:16:11.080 arraiment car court is just frankly scary. So I'm wondering 0:16:11.120 --> 0:16:14.680 what recourse we have other than the suggestion that was 0:16:14.680 --> 0:16:17.800 brought to us by our dear friend and family member 0:16:17.840 --> 0:16:19.560 who sent in the question earlier today. 0:16:20.480 --> 0:16:24.200 It's like they so, first of all, young people, middle 0:16:24.200 --> 0:16:28.680 aged people, all people alike. It is terrorizing to watch that. Yeah, 0:16:28.760 --> 0:16:33.600 let alone be the subject of it. It's terrorizing to 0:16:33.760 --> 0:16:37.800 all of our psyches, everybody who's in listening, ear who 0:16:37.960 --> 0:16:41.080 visually watch this, And God knows, my heart goes out 0:16:41.120 --> 0:16:43.920 to the people who are experiencing it. Yeah, day in 0:16:44.160 --> 0:16:47.480 and day out. These guys are domestic terrorists. And what 0:16:47.640 --> 0:16:52.560 makes them terrorists, and in my opinion, what makes them 0:16:52.800 --> 0:16:56.760 traitors to the country and to the Constitution is the 0:16:56.800 --> 0:17:01.680 fact that we still have habeasts right in this country. 0:17:01.760 --> 0:17:04.159 If you detain me as an American, you have to 0:17:04.240 --> 0:17:08.000 tell me why we don't have the right in America 0:17:08.119 --> 0:17:12.359 to just snatch American citizens up with no explanation as 0:17:12.440 --> 0:17:13.119 to why. 0:17:14.119 --> 0:17:15.479 And think we can get away with it. 0:17:15.520 --> 0:17:19.800 And I guess, tiff Angelo, I've just decided this very moment, 0:17:21.119 --> 0:17:23.640 it is not enough to just return to a status quo. 0:17:24.760 --> 0:17:27.439 Anybody running for an office and talking about getting back 0:17:27.480 --> 0:17:30.520 to a sense of normalcy, screw you in the train 0:17:30.600 --> 0:17:33.159 you rode in on, the donkey you rode in on, 0:17:33.200 --> 0:17:37.600 because you are an ass The status quo is not sufficient. 0:17:37.680 --> 0:17:40.520 We are off the rails here. We're off the rails. 0:17:40.960 --> 0:17:44.240 And what I will expect from whomever wants my vote 0:17:44.240 --> 0:17:49.880 for leadership is full accounting of what these last four 0:17:50.000 --> 0:17:53.080 years are. These four years under Trump will have borne us. 0:17:53.320 --> 0:17:55.600 So if you are an attorney and. 0:17:55.480 --> 0:17:59.040 You have flouted the legal system and just. 0:18:01.800 --> 0:18:06.080 Dismiss the instructions of a judge wherever you are barred, 0:18:06.640 --> 0:18:09.080 the bar associations need to be working diligent, need to 0:18:09.119 --> 0:18:11.520 remove your license forever so that you can never again 0:18:11.560 --> 0:18:12.600 be an officer of the court. 0:18:12.600 --> 0:18:14.080 You cannot be trusted. 0:18:14.160 --> 0:18:18.760 If you are a government lawyer or a government official. 0:18:19.560 --> 0:18:23.080 You are skirting the law. You are skirting the constitution. 0:18:23.760 --> 0:18:26.920 You are acting in submission to an individual, to a man, 0:18:27.680 --> 0:18:29.119 and not to the rule of law. 0:18:29.440 --> 0:18:30.760 You should be held accountable. 0:18:30.840 --> 0:18:33.120 While the court at the highest level may have said 0:18:33.119 --> 0:18:35.760 you cannot prosecute a sitting president or a president of 0:18:35.800 --> 0:18:39.800 the United States, that does not apply to folks who 0:18:39.840 --> 0:18:40.280 work for. 0:18:40.280 --> 0:18:41.960 That president of the United States. 0:18:42.359 --> 0:18:45.320 And I know that some people will say, well, well, 0:18:45.359 --> 0:18:46.560 how do we get into a tiff for tech? 0:18:46.560 --> 0:18:48.840 We can't have a different No, no, no, no, no, We're 0:18:48.880 --> 0:18:49.360 beyond that. 0:18:49.960 --> 0:18:53.320 If we allow the kinds of transgressions that we're seeing 0:18:53.400 --> 0:18:58.680 right now to go unpunished, to go unaccounted for, We're 0:18:58.720 --> 0:19:03.160 inviting the ship to happen again. And I've already had enough, 0:19:03.480 --> 0:19:05.960 and i haven't been the subject in one of those videos. 0:19:06.359 --> 0:19:08.639 We've been bearing witness from wherever we are around the 0:19:08.680 --> 0:19:11.240 country and trying to keep ourselves safe and protected. 0:19:11.520 --> 0:19:15.280 But this is gone. This is out of control. 0:19:15.760 --> 0:19:18.240 And to your point, Angela, there are judges in the 0:19:18.320 --> 0:19:21.359 district who are saying you are violating rights. 0:19:21.400 --> 0:19:22.960 This is the most blatant and. 0:19:24.480 --> 0:19:28.520 Obvious violation of constitutional rights that I've ever seen. 0:19:28.560 --> 0:19:30.160 These are the words of judges. 0:19:30.880 --> 0:19:35.920 You have grand juries who are refusing the prosecutors a 0:19:36.080 --> 0:19:39.640 requests to bring indictments against many of these individuals. They're 0:19:39.680 --> 0:19:43.800 saying no, no, So on one hand, I'm glad that 0:19:43.880 --> 0:19:46.640 there are some forms of resistance which are not really 0:19:46.680 --> 0:19:50.119 resistance at all. That's simply obeyance. It's a basis to 0:19:50.119 --> 0:19:53.080 the constitution and to the laws. But we got applaud 0:19:53.119 --> 0:19:55.879 that where is happening when the government is running roughshod 0:19:56.480 --> 0:19:59.040 over the rest of the country and they have to 0:19:59.040 --> 0:20:00.000 be held to account. 0:20:00.640 --> 0:20:03.760 If you're running you better say it. And moreover, when 0:20:03.760 --> 0:20:04.880 you win, you better do it. 0:20:04.960 --> 0:20:07.040 They all have to be held to account or we're 0:20:07.080 --> 0:20:13.560 inviting this same kind of uh glimpse into totalitarianism for 0:20:13.600 --> 0:20:14.040 the future. 0:20:14.880 --> 0:20:16.159 I saw, I don't know what it is. 0:20:16.880 --> 0:20:18.680 Yeah, go ahead, No, no, I. 0:20:18.680 --> 0:20:20.680 Was, I was actually gonna bring you in. 0:20:20.800 --> 0:20:24.240 I was seeing your tears and when you know either 0:20:24.800 --> 0:20:27.800 of you cry like it takes everything in me not 0:20:27.840 --> 0:20:30.920 to cry too, and just witnessing your heartbreak and having 0:20:30.920 --> 0:20:32.360 to get up, I just wanted to know what came 0:20:32.440 --> 0:20:32.919 up for you to. 0:20:34.760 --> 0:20:35.280 It's just. 0:20:38.920 --> 0:20:43.240 Yeah, yeah. 0:20:43.400 --> 0:20:46.840 Andrew made me laugh a little bit when he said 0:20:46.920 --> 0:20:51.280 scream and the donkey wrote in because you aren't asked. 0:20:51.320 --> 0:21:01.600 I'm feeling it, but frightening the I don't include my ugly. 0:21:01.359 --> 0:21:04.480 Cry because this is a horrible but it is so 0:21:04.720 --> 0:21:09.919 frightening what's happening here. And to see that, man, it 0:21:10.080 --> 0:21:14.080 just feels like it's not a matter of if, but 0:21:14.200 --> 0:21:19.560 when that is going to come for all of us. 0:21:20.680 --> 0:21:23.600 Walking to the store yesterday I got back from New York. 0:21:24.960 --> 0:21:27.959 Walking through this store yesterday, I saw two little girls, 0:21:28.000 --> 0:21:31.879 two little Latino girls, and they were walking and they 0:21:31.880 --> 0:21:34.640 were surrounded by agents. 0:21:36.160 --> 0:21:37.159 They weren't doing anything. 0:21:37.160 --> 0:21:40.200 They were just walking through the store and four grown 0:21:40.280 --> 0:21:43.080 men were walking behind them. They looked like they were 0:21:43.359 --> 0:21:49.720 thirteen fourteen. It's a Latino neighborhood and it was flooded. 0:21:49.880 --> 0:21:52.760 Even playing clothes, they stand out, you know, even they're 0:21:52.760 --> 0:21:53.960 not in uniform, they're. 0:21:53.840 --> 0:21:54.800 In playing clothes. 0:21:55.920 --> 0:22:02.080 And I have never personally felt before. So I think 0:22:02.160 --> 0:22:07.080 about our ancestors, you know, not even our ancestors, people 0:22:07.080 --> 0:22:09.320 who are still alive, what they went. 0:22:09.200 --> 0:22:10.280