1 00:00:09,039 --> 00:00:12,760 Speaker 1: Welcome to Between the Horns, presented by your Southern California toy, 2 00:00:12,840 --> 00:00:15,480 Speaker 1: the Dealers. Cameron Er went alongside by good friends Stu 3 00:00:15,640 --> 00:00:18,919 Speaker 1: Jackson and Maurice Jones drew the Rams coming off a 4 00:00:19,079 --> 00:00:21,520 Speaker 1: bye week and a bye week for us as well. 5 00:00:21,800 --> 00:00:24,000 Speaker 1: Did you get any rest at MJD. I don't think 6 00:00:24,040 --> 00:00:25,759 Speaker 1: you did, but maybe, Stu, did you get. 7 00:00:25,560 --> 00:00:28,280 Speaker 2: Some rest a little bit? I mean played some golf 8 00:00:28,320 --> 00:00:33,560 Speaker 2: and wow, that's w Yeah, exactly. Yeah, play a little 9 00:00:33,560 --> 00:00:35,040 Speaker 2: bit of golf and then just watch a lot of 10 00:00:35,080 --> 00:00:37,960 Speaker 2: college football and you know all the NFL games that 11 00:00:38,040 --> 00:00:40,760 Speaker 2: were on the schedule for that week. So yeah, well 12 00:00:40,800 --> 00:00:42,640 Speaker 2: spent at least by my standards. 13 00:00:42,640 --> 00:00:45,599 Speaker 3: So I'm jealous. I had to watch football. You got 14 00:00:45,640 --> 00:00:49,680 Speaker 3: to watch games. Yep, it was awesome. Bye week was 15 00:00:49,720 --> 00:00:51,599 Speaker 3: a work week for me. I was just getting back 16 00:00:51,600 --> 00:00:55,520 Speaker 3: from London. That was awesome over there. Besides the Jags 17 00:00:56,080 --> 00:00:58,760 Speaker 3: losing to the Bears, which who have gotten much better 18 00:00:58,800 --> 00:01:02,000 Speaker 3: since we've played them, Mike goodness, both offensive and defensively. 19 00:01:03,200 --> 00:01:05,039 Speaker 3: But yeah, still a little jet lagged, but we'll figure 20 00:01:05,040 --> 00:01:06,240 Speaker 3: it out. We're going to fight do this thing. I 21 00:01:06,280 --> 00:01:08,679 Speaker 3: will give you everything I got. I was just for 22 00:01:08,720 --> 00:01:09,959 Speaker 3: our fans in a while. I was over there, I 23 00:01:10,000 --> 00:01:13,000 Speaker 3: was keeping tabs, I was texting JB. I was watching 24 00:01:13,000 --> 00:01:15,600 Speaker 3: the games. I was doing everything I could to kind 25 00:01:15,600 --> 00:01:18,640 Speaker 3: of keep saying tact. So I'm really excited for this week, 26 00:01:18,760 --> 00:01:20,440 Speaker 3: and really after this bye week was kind of the 27 00:01:20,480 --> 00:01:23,319 Speaker 3: plan on the Rams getting back healthy and making a 28 00:01:23,360 --> 00:01:24,160 Speaker 3: run like last year. 29 00:01:24,440 --> 00:01:26,760 Speaker 1: I was gonna say, MJD may have no idea what 30 00:01:26,800 --> 00:01:27,920 Speaker 1: time Zony currently is. 31 00:01:28,800 --> 00:01:32,000 Speaker 3: I'm in China right now, no clue, but. 32 00:01:32,000 --> 00:01:34,720 Speaker 1: We're excited to break down the Los Angeles Rams after 33 00:01:34,800 --> 00:01:38,120 Speaker 1: this bye week. It is the Raiders at Sofi Stadium 34 00:01:38,280 --> 00:01:41,680 Speaker 1: come Sunday, and I feel like before we get into 35 00:01:41,760 --> 00:01:44,399 Speaker 1: any major adjustments coming out of the bye week, let's 36 00:01:44,400 --> 00:01:46,360 Speaker 1: take a look at what the state of the Rams 37 00:01:46,400 --> 00:01:49,840 Speaker 1: is after the first five sitting at one and four. However, 38 00:01:50,360 --> 00:01:53,040 Speaker 1: is it as rough as it may seem. We saw 39 00:01:53,200 --> 00:01:55,680 Speaker 1: Sean McVay talk with JB Long earlier this week and 40 00:01:55,680 --> 00:01:58,000 Speaker 1: he said the gap may not be as wide as 41 00:01:58,040 --> 00:01:59,960 Speaker 1: we imagine it to be. Is that the case? 42 00:02:00,480 --> 00:02:02,200 Speaker 2: I would say? So, I mean, look at the standings 43 00:02:02,200 --> 00:02:06,080 Speaker 2: for the NFC West, I get there. I mean, record wise, 44 00:02:06,120 --> 00:02:09,200 Speaker 2: there's not as much separation as people may think, I mean, yes, 45 00:02:09,480 --> 00:02:11,160 Speaker 2: it is what it is as far as you know, 46 00:02:11,240 --> 00:02:14,000 Speaker 2: especially where the Rams stand. But there's not a lot 47 00:02:14,040 --> 00:02:16,600 Speaker 2: of separation right now, and there's still several weeks left 48 00:02:16,600 --> 00:02:18,720 Speaker 2: to make up ground. There's two home games in five 49 00:02:18,800 --> 00:02:21,160 Speaker 2: days for the Rams to potentially make up that ground, especially, 50 00:02:21,280 --> 00:02:24,880 Speaker 2: so not as insurmountable as people may think. 51 00:02:25,120 --> 00:02:28,000 Speaker 3: Hey, I think when you look at kind of the schedule, 52 00:02:28,240 --> 00:02:30,560 Speaker 3: and it's not necessarily just the record wins and losses, 53 00:02:30,600 --> 00:02:32,600 Speaker 3: it's how you won and how you lost. Right you 54 00:02:32,639 --> 00:02:34,600 Speaker 3: go back to Week one, you went in overtime with 55 00:02:34,639 --> 00:02:38,080 Speaker 3: the Detroit Lions till you get blown out by Arizona. 56 00:02:38,120 --> 00:02:39,760 Speaker 3: So that kind is one of those ones. But then 57 00:02:39,760 --> 00:02:43,600 Speaker 3: you beat the Niners. Then you have close losses. You 58 00:02:43,600 --> 00:02:47,560 Speaker 3: should have the Rams dominated the Bears game for what 59 00:02:48,080 --> 00:02:50,720 Speaker 3: three and a half quarters and allow the Bears to 60 00:02:51,080 --> 00:02:52,720 Speaker 3: take the lead late in the game and then kind 61 00:02:52,760 --> 00:02:54,799 Speaker 3: of go from there. And then I was against Green Bay. 62 00:02:54,840 --> 00:02:57,560 Speaker 3: You have opportunities in that game to win it. You 63 00:02:57,600 --> 00:03:00,160 Speaker 3: get the pick six, you get in the red zone, 64 00:03:00,040 --> 00:03:03,040 Speaker 3: and again a lot of times and it's not the 65 00:03:03,080 --> 00:03:05,839 Speaker 3: twenty to the twenty, it's more the twenty in where 66 00:03:05,840 --> 00:03:08,000 Speaker 3: the Rams have struggled, which have cost them those games. 67 00:03:08,040 --> 00:03:10,320 Speaker 3: So if you can fix those red zone problems, you 68 00:03:10,320 --> 00:03:12,119 Speaker 3: can leaves say the Rams could be three and two 69 00:03:12,160 --> 00:03:14,520 Speaker 3: or four and one at this point and having that 70 00:03:14,600 --> 00:03:16,920 Speaker 3: ability to go again the red zone has been something 71 00:03:16,919 --> 00:03:19,720 Speaker 3: that's kind of started last year towards the end of 72 00:03:19,720 --> 00:03:21,960 Speaker 3: the season, and it's kind of carried as well, like 73 00:03:22,040 --> 00:03:24,640 Speaker 3: head over to this one. So hopefully that's what you 74 00:03:24,680 --> 00:03:27,240 Speaker 3: were looking for after the bias. We're not as far 75 00:03:27,280 --> 00:03:30,360 Speaker 3: away because we've had opportunities to win these games, but 76 00:03:30,400 --> 00:03:32,520 Speaker 3: we just haven't converted in the red zone. 77 00:03:32,480 --> 00:03:34,839 Speaker 1: And there is an accountability to that, right, Like there's 78 00:03:34,840 --> 00:03:37,200 Speaker 1: an understanding of maybe it's a bit of inexperienced the 79 00:03:37,280 --> 00:03:40,240 Speaker 1: Rams the second youngest team in the NFL on average, 80 00:03:40,280 --> 00:03:44,040 Speaker 1: just twenty five and a half years. But there's also 81 00:03:44,040 --> 00:03:46,080 Speaker 1: a different level of a bit of frustration because it 82 00:03:46,080 --> 00:03:48,800 Speaker 1: feels like it's just within your reach. Right We're talking 83 00:03:48,800 --> 00:03:51,840 Speaker 1: about one possession games that the Rams have taken losses, 84 00:03:51,880 --> 00:03:54,920 Speaker 1: and how do you go about fixing some of those 85 00:03:55,000 --> 00:03:57,760 Speaker 1: issues and those controllables in a bye week like this. 86 00:03:58,240 --> 00:04:00,560 Speaker 3: Well, I think the biggest thing was coming into this season, 87 00:04:00,680 --> 00:04:02,440 Speaker 3: you knew that the defense was gonna take a little 88 00:04:02,480 --> 00:04:06,080 Speaker 3: bit of time to get adjusted, right because you lost 89 00:04:06,080 --> 00:04:09,200 Speaker 3: Aaron Donald, you traded away, you know, Jalen Ramsey. It 90 00:04:09,280 --> 00:04:11,440 Speaker 3: was gonna be a younger defense. The offense was gonna 91 00:04:11,480 --> 00:04:13,680 Speaker 3: carry the season. They were gonna be the ones you're 92 00:04:13,680 --> 00:04:15,560 Speaker 3: gonna lean on. The offense office is gonna score points 93 00:04:15,560 --> 00:04:17,280 Speaker 3: a lot of the defense to come along. And then 94 00:04:17,320 --> 00:04:18,919 Speaker 3: you have a bunch of injuries that happen, and so 95 00:04:19,000 --> 00:04:22,000 Speaker 3: now it's okay, we got to figure out how to 96 00:04:22,000 --> 00:04:25,160 Speaker 3: make this thing move while it's going. And so those 97 00:04:25,240 --> 00:04:28,600 Speaker 3: losses in those plays that that mistakes, mistakes were made 98 00:04:28,760 --> 00:04:33,320 Speaker 3: both offensively defensively, you can learn from those, and you're 99 00:04:33,360 --> 00:04:35,720 Speaker 3: hoping that in this bye week that you go back 100 00:04:35,760 --> 00:04:38,360 Speaker 3: over what was going on. This is the technique we 101 00:04:38,400 --> 00:04:39,720 Speaker 3: need to play, This is what we need to call 102 00:04:39,720 --> 00:04:43,320 Speaker 3: in this situation. These are the communication techniques that we need, 103 00:04:43,480 --> 00:04:44,960 Speaker 3: and then you hope the young guys can make those 104 00:04:45,000 --> 00:04:47,160 Speaker 3: adjustments to go. But I've always said this, and I've 105 00:04:47,160 --> 00:04:48,799 Speaker 3: said this a couple of times on the show, those 106 00:04:49,279 --> 00:04:52,400 Speaker 3: injuries become blessing in disguises because guys are getting reps 107 00:04:52,400 --> 00:04:55,440 Speaker 3: that normally wouldn't have got any reps. Bo Limbert just 108 00:04:55,680 --> 00:04:58,360 Speaker 3: comes to mind, is you have a guy that comes 109 00:04:58,360 --> 00:05:02,039 Speaker 3: in as a rookie that's playing meaningful, you know, reps 110 00:05:02,120 --> 00:05:05,159 Speaker 3: throughout the first half of your season. Once everyone gets healthy, 111 00:05:05,240 --> 00:05:07,279 Speaker 3: do you pull them? Do you keep them? And even 112 00:05:07,320 --> 00:05:09,560 Speaker 3: if you do, you have a guy that you know 113 00:05:09,600 --> 00:05:10,800 Speaker 3: you can count on down the road. 114 00:05:11,000 --> 00:05:13,040 Speaker 2: And to that point, the wide receiver room especially I 115 00:05:13,080 --> 00:05:15,000 Speaker 2: think is also benefit from that too. A lot of 116 00:05:15,000 --> 00:05:17,240 Speaker 2: guys have gotten reps that they maybe wouldn't otherwise if 117 00:05:17,279 --> 00:05:20,159 Speaker 2: you had had a healthy Cooper Cup, a healthy Pooka 118 00:05:20,160 --> 00:05:23,000 Speaker 2: and Akua, which is really bringing along the depth there 119 00:05:23,000 --> 00:05:24,960 Speaker 2: and and putting it in a good place, especially for 120 00:05:24,960 --> 00:05:25,760 Speaker 2: the rest of the season. 121 00:05:25,960 --> 00:05:28,320 Speaker 1: Stu, you have an incredible pulse on the team. You're 122 00:05:28,440 --> 00:05:30,800 Speaker 1: in the practice facility day and in day out. What have 123 00:05:30,880 --> 00:05:33,080 Speaker 1: you seen in this week because there was an added 124 00:05:33,160 --> 00:05:34,560 Speaker 1: practice on Monday. 125 00:05:34,880 --> 00:05:37,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, the the vibes have been good. I mean, 126 00:05:37,120 --> 00:05:41,280 Speaker 2: everybody feels really refreshed and you know, recharged and ready 127 00:05:41,279 --> 00:05:43,480 Speaker 2: to go. I mean, again, as cliche as that sounds, 128 00:05:43,520 --> 00:05:45,800 Speaker 2: the truth just from you know, talking to guys on 129 00:05:45,880 --> 00:05:49,080 Speaker 2: Monday and Wednesday and just you know, seeing you know 130 00:05:49,120 --> 00:05:52,800 Speaker 2: obviously how you know Sean mcmay feels this week, you know, 131 00:05:52,839 --> 00:05:54,919 Speaker 2: everybody feels like they're in a really good space to 132 00:05:54,960 --> 00:05:57,560 Speaker 2: be able to, you know, attack this week and get 133 00:05:57,560 --> 00:05:58,239 Speaker 2: back on track. 134 00:05:58,480 --> 00:06:01,200 Speaker 1: I like that you use the word energy because even 135 00:06:01,240 --> 00:06:03,440 Speaker 1: from some of the pressers that we've seen, it seems 136 00:06:03,520 --> 00:06:05,680 Speaker 1: like that energy is starting to build and there's a 137 00:06:05,760 --> 00:06:08,880 Speaker 1: confidence that's starting to build because there can be parallels 138 00:06:08,960 --> 00:06:11,479 Speaker 1: drawn from this season to last season. They were three 139 00:06:11,520 --> 00:06:14,000 Speaker 1: and six going into the by then ultimately winning seven 140 00:06:14,080 --> 00:06:17,200 Speaker 1: up their last eight. How do you use last season 141 00:06:17,560 --> 00:06:20,240 Speaker 1: in terms of building that confidence because that's something they 142 00:06:20,279 --> 00:06:20,840 Speaker 1: can hang on to. 143 00:06:21,360 --> 00:06:21,560 Speaker 2: Yeah. 144 00:06:21,640 --> 00:06:23,640 Speaker 3: I think you talked about the controllables, right, and as 145 00:06:23,640 --> 00:06:25,760 Speaker 3: a player, you can control your effort and your energy. 146 00:06:26,200 --> 00:06:28,840 Speaker 3: That's what you can control. Now, there's other things that 147 00:06:29,240 --> 00:06:31,839 Speaker 3: we as pros we like to say we control, but 148 00:06:31,960 --> 00:06:34,120 Speaker 3: those are the two main things. And so for me, 149 00:06:34,640 --> 00:06:37,400 Speaker 3: when you have those effort and energy plays like the 150 00:06:37,440 --> 00:06:40,120 Speaker 3: pick six that happened against the Packers, when you can 151 00:06:40,279 --> 00:06:43,400 Speaker 3: start to cultivate that and get more consistent play like that, 152 00:06:43,440 --> 00:06:46,200 Speaker 3: all of a sudden, it becomes contagious, right, And so 153 00:06:46,760 --> 00:06:49,159 Speaker 3: to me, I think when you look at just the 154 00:06:49,240 --> 00:06:52,320 Speaker 3: Rams in general, if you go back to the Niners game. 155 00:06:52,360 --> 00:06:54,280 Speaker 3: That was a very contagious game with that effort and 156 00:06:54,360 --> 00:06:56,800 Speaker 3: energy that they played with. Can you stack it up 157 00:06:56,839 --> 00:06:58,680 Speaker 3: the next week? And that's kind of where you have 158 00:06:58,800 --> 00:07:00,960 Speaker 3: young guys. It's hard to do that week after week 159 00:07:01,000 --> 00:07:03,320 Speaker 3: because again again I remember being a young guy, and 160 00:07:03,360 --> 00:07:06,719 Speaker 3: I remember like going crazy one week and then being exhausted, 161 00:07:06,920 --> 00:07:09,560 Speaker 3: like what I just emptied the bucket? How do I? 162 00:07:09,600 --> 00:07:10,880 Speaker 3: How do I empty the bucket again? 163 00:07:11,000 --> 00:07:11,160 Speaker 1: Right? 164 00:07:12,040 --> 00:07:14,800 Speaker 3: And you learn, you start to learn a routine, You 165 00:07:14,840 --> 00:07:16,920 Speaker 3: start to learn do get do I come early all 166 00:07:16,920 --> 00:07:18,680 Speaker 3: the time, like you start to figure out who you 167 00:07:18,680 --> 00:07:19,960 Speaker 3: are as a player, and then you start to fit 168 00:07:20,000 --> 00:07:22,480 Speaker 3: your role. I think the biggest thing that I've learned 169 00:07:22,840 --> 00:07:25,440 Speaker 3: with this RAMS team compared to last one is there's 170 00:07:25,480 --> 00:07:27,720 Speaker 3: a lot of role players on this one, guys that 171 00:07:27,720 --> 00:07:29,960 Speaker 3: are gonna do two at well as a role player, right, 172 00:07:30,000 --> 00:07:35,280 Speaker 3: And we talked about roles being growing because of injuries. 173 00:07:35,600 --> 00:07:38,160 Speaker 3: That's what He's a guy that we didn't see for 174 00:07:38,280 --> 00:07:40,320 Speaker 3: a while last year. Then he comes in, he starts 175 00:07:40,360 --> 00:07:42,080 Speaker 3: making place. Now you have a role. Now you have 176 00:07:42,160 --> 00:07:44,520 Speaker 3: to be the best in that role as possible, and 177 00:07:44,520 --> 00:07:46,400 Speaker 3: that it goes for everybody. And so if you can 178 00:07:46,440 --> 00:07:49,200 Speaker 3: control your effort and your energy and your attitude, then 179 00:07:49,480 --> 00:07:50,600 Speaker 3: I think it'll turn around. 180 00:07:51,120 --> 00:07:53,720 Speaker 2: I think by the same token too, that question you 181 00:07:53,760 --> 00:07:55,920 Speaker 2: asked reminded me of what I had asked Matthew Stafford 182 00:07:55,960 --> 00:07:58,360 Speaker 2: post game after the Green Bay game, where I said, 183 00:07:58,400 --> 00:08:00,840 Speaker 2: you know, obviously every season that you season is its 184 00:08:00,840 --> 00:08:03,200 Speaker 2: own story, but what do you draw on from a 185 00:08:03,240 --> 00:08:05,320 Speaker 2: leadership standpoint or what can you use from last season 186 00:08:05,360 --> 00:08:07,960 Speaker 2: to apply to the current circumstances. And he basically said, 187 00:08:08,320 --> 00:08:10,160 Speaker 2: you know, you can't be scared to put yourself out 188 00:08:10,200 --> 00:08:13,000 Speaker 2: back out there, regardless of what your records is, and 189 00:08:13,080 --> 00:08:16,480 Speaker 2: so playing with that fearlessness is one of the things 190 00:08:16,480 --> 00:08:18,440 Speaker 2: that at least that I think about or go back 191 00:08:18,480 --> 00:08:19,440 Speaker 2: to in light of that. 192 00:08:19,640 --> 00:08:21,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, and you mentioned too too, and I think something 193 00:08:21,680 --> 00:08:23,640 Speaker 1: just popped into my head in regards to you earn 194 00:08:23,680 --> 00:08:26,280 Speaker 1: the right for expectation, right, and each of these guys 195 00:08:26,280 --> 00:08:29,239 Speaker 1: has now put performances together, especially at the wide receiver 196 00:08:29,280 --> 00:08:31,920 Speaker 1: group where you're going, there's now expectation on them to 197 00:08:31,920 --> 00:08:34,760 Speaker 1: perform in the second half. Also, I want to note 198 00:08:34,800 --> 00:08:37,000 Speaker 1: you talked about the Bears improvement and you just look 199 00:08:37,000 --> 00:08:39,400 Speaker 1: at what the Rams have faced. You thought maybe that 200 00:08:39,440 --> 00:08:41,320 Speaker 1: first half wasn't going to be as tough in terms 201 00:08:41,320 --> 00:08:44,240 Speaker 1: of strength to schedule. But now considering the NFC North, 202 00:08:44,840 --> 00:08:47,480 Speaker 1: of our five competitions, three of them against the NFC North, 203 00:08:47,520 --> 00:08:51,440 Speaker 1: there's seventeen and five as a division leading the NFL, 204 00:08:51,760 --> 00:08:53,720 Speaker 1: the strength of schedule in the front half for the 205 00:08:53,720 --> 00:08:55,880 Speaker 1: Los Angeles Rams has been a daunting task. 206 00:08:56,480 --> 00:09:01,280 Speaker 2: Yeah. Absolutely. I mean you knew, especially with opening the 207 00:09:01,360 --> 00:09:03,080 Speaker 2: with the home opener, I should say, being against the 208 00:09:03,080 --> 00:09:04,679 Speaker 2: forty nine ers, that that was always going to be 209 00:09:04,720 --> 00:09:08,120 Speaker 2: a tough challenge obviously owned division, but yeah, especially with 210 00:09:08,160 --> 00:09:10,840 Speaker 2: the way that the NFC North is shaping up, with 211 00:09:10,880 --> 00:09:13,840 Speaker 2: the way the Packers are playing as well, you know, 212 00:09:13,880 --> 00:09:16,680 Speaker 2: those are going to be some really good tests that 213 00:09:16,720 --> 00:09:18,880 Speaker 2: I think the you know, the Rams will look back 214 00:09:18,920 --> 00:09:22,520 Speaker 2: on and be you know, appreciative of the growth or 215 00:09:22,559 --> 00:09:23,760 Speaker 2: opportunities that came from it. 216 00:09:24,120 --> 00:09:28,280 Speaker 3: And again when you talk about the Bears and their growth, 217 00:09:28,280 --> 00:09:29,959 Speaker 3: they just really turned around and started running the ball, 218 00:09:29,960 --> 00:09:31,920 Speaker 3: became more of a fifty to fifty offense. Understand that 219 00:09:31,920 --> 00:09:35,120 Speaker 3: their defense has always been really good. We saw that firsthand. 220 00:09:35,640 --> 00:09:38,000 Speaker 3: I think with the Rams it's the opposite right where 221 00:09:38,040 --> 00:09:40,439 Speaker 3: we needed offense to get back to being that explosive 222 00:09:40,520 --> 00:09:43,600 Speaker 3: team that's scoring twenty eight points, getting you know, two 223 00:09:43,640 --> 00:09:45,679 Speaker 3: touchdowns early in the game, putting pressure on the other 224 00:09:45,720 --> 00:09:48,720 Speaker 3: side to allow the defense to continue to grow. And 225 00:09:48,720 --> 00:09:50,600 Speaker 3: it's not necessarily the front end of the defense that 226 00:09:50,600 --> 00:09:53,280 Speaker 3: I'm worried about, because again, Jared versus Fisk have done 227 00:09:53,280 --> 00:09:56,040 Speaker 3: an amazing job of adding to Byron Young and Kobe 228 00:09:56,040 --> 00:09:58,600 Speaker 3: Turner and the pressure they're bringing in. But it's the 229 00:09:58,640 --> 00:10:00,960 Speaker 3: second part of it, right on the back end, the 230 00:10:00,960 --> 00:10:04,280 Speaker 3: linebackers being able to cover in space you now have 231 00:10:04,400 --> 00:10:06,680 Speaker 3: to take over. And I think that's gonna be the 232 00:10:06,720 --> 00:10:09,360 Speaker 3: next step for this Rams defense. Is can that that 233 00:10:09,760 --> 00:10:11,880 Speaker 3: front if it's five guys, if it's four guys, if 234 00:10:11,920 --> 00:10:15,120 Speaker 3: it's three guys, can you get pressure on the quarterback 235 00:10:15,200 --> 00:10:19,360 Speaker 3: consistently and consistently meaning every snap right the quarterback has 236 00:10:19,400 --> 00:10:21,679 Speaker 3: to either move his pocket or take his eyes off 237 00:10:21,679 --> 00:10:23,800 Speaker 3: off of the routes so that you can help those 238 00:10:23,800 --> 00:10:25,640 Speaker 3: guys in the back and as they get healthy and 239 00:10:25,760 --> 00:10:27,280 Speaker 3: healthier and start to play. 240 00:10:27,000 --> 00:10:30,200 Speaker 2: Better, especially too, because some of the things that you 241 00:10:30,240 --> 00:10:32,480 Speaker 2: know the Rams do in terms of you know, covered 242 00:10:32,520 --> 00:10:35,400 Speaker 2: structures or the way they approach the secondary ties into 243 00:10:35,760 --> 00:10:37,520 Speaker 2: those rush planes as well. Right, and the way they 244 00:10:37,679 --> 00:10:38,280 Speaker 2: rush the passer. 245 00:10:38,760 --> 00:10:41,040 Speaker 3: It was so funny. When I first got with the Rams, 246 00:10:41,080 --> 00:10:44,240 Speaker 3: I was like, this is so unsound what they're doing it. 247 00:10:44,600 --> 00:10:46,920 Speaker 3: It was like unbelievable, just some of the covers things. 248 00:10:46,920 --> 00:10:49,079 Speaker 3: But when you have Aaron Donald who can get pressure 249 00:10:49,120 --> 00:10:51,400 Speaker 3: in two seconds, like, we have the luxury of doing 250 00:10:51,440 --> 00:10:54,319 Speaker 3: that right, And so I think, now you're again it's 251 00:10:54,320 --> 00:10:56,240 Speaker 3: a learning process. This is what we've done for the 252 00:10:56,320 --> 00:10:59,240 Speaker 3: last I know, we've been here since twenty sixteen, so 253 00:11:00,280 --> 00:11:01,880 Speaker 3: nine years is the last one we've done. And now 254 00:11:01,880 --> 00:11:04,040 Speaker 3: we have to switch it up, and that's a learning process. 255 00:11:04,160 --> 00:11:06,680 Speaker 3: How do how do we switch it up? Do we 256 00:11:06,760 --> 00:11:09,040 Speaker 3: run more stunts on the front, do we play tighter 257 00:11:09,080 --> 00:11:11,160 Speaker 3: coverage on the back end? Do we like And so 258 00:11:11,320 --> 00:11:12,880 Speaker 3: again we knew the first couple of weeks it was 259 00:11:12,880 --> 00:11:15,000 Speaker 3: gonna take some time, but I thought the Rams defense 260 00:11:15,040 --> 00:11:16,960 Speaker 3: have done an awesome job of getting off the field. 261 00:11:17,600 --> 00:11:19,600 Speaker 3: They've converted a lot of those pressures in the sacks 262 00:11:19,600 --> 00:11:22,680 Speaker 3: as of lately. You just hope that they can continue 263 00:11:22,679 --> 00:11:24,839 Speaker 3: that growth as they kep going. And then you know, 264 00:11:24,960 --> 00:11:27,319 Speaker 3: the last thing I'll say is this when you're asking 265 00:11:27,400 --> 00:11:29,920 Speaker 3: rookies to play a lot and to play and to 266 00:11:30,360 --> 00:11:33,320 Speaker 3: be impact players. The rookie wall is the most is 267 00:11:33,320 --> 00:11:35,559 Speaker 3: a thing that you have to worry about, and having 268 00:11:35,559 --> 00:11:38,440 Speaker 3: that by early is gonna kind of push that wall 269 00:11:38,480 --> 00:11:40,960 Speaker 3: back a little bit, because again they shouldn't be worn 270 00:11:41,000 --> 00:11:41,600 Speaker 3: down as much. 271 00:11:42,080 --> 00:11:44,240 Speaker 1: Well, you gave me a beautiful transition. So I was 272 00:11:44,320 --> 00:11:46,720 Speaker 1: just about to ask you about Jared Vers and Kobe 273 00:11:46,760 --> 00:11:50,440 Speaker 1: Turner and that pass rush and the optimism that you 274 00:11:50,480 --> 00:11:52,839 Speaker 1: can find, but you detailed it beautifully. I'll give you 275 00:11:52,920 --> 00:11:55,040 Speaker 1: one more in terms of a silver line in Kobe 276 00:11:55,080 --> 00:11:59,160 Speaker 1: Turner had a great performance against green Bay. Six tackles 277 00:11:59,160 --> 00:12:01,960 Speaker 1: too for loss, two sacks and two QB hits. So 278 00:12:02,040 --> 00:12:04,400 Speaker 1: looking for that consistency. But that is a huge step 279 00:12:04,400 --> 00:12:06,760 Speaker 1: in the right direction. All right, Let's shift here. So 280 00:12:06,800 --> 00:12:10,080 Speaker 1: the NFC West is technically up for grabs. You look 281 00:12:10,120 --> 00:12:12,360 Speaker 1: at what the rest of the field looks like. The 282 00:12:12,360 --> 00:12:14,800 Speaker 1: Seahawks forty nine ers and Cards forty nine ers and 283 00:12:14,840 --> 00:12:17,200 Speaker 1: Seahawks at three and three, Cards at two and four 284 00:12:17,640 --> 00:12:19,720 Speaker 1: forty nine ers have a tough test this week. They 285 00:12:19,840 --> 00:12:22,200 Speaker 1: face the Chiefs, Seahawks have the Falcons who are also 286 00:12:22,240 --> 00:12:24,720 Speaker 1: four and two, and the Cardinals take on the Chargers 287 00:12:24,720 --> 00:12:27,160 Speaker 1: for Monday Night, Football who are at three and two. 288 00:12:27,360 --> 00:12:29,679 Speaker 1: You look at strength of schedule, and this is a 289 00:12:29,760 --> 00:12:32,360 Speaker 1: little interesting. To close this out for the NFC West, 290 00:12:32,440 --> 00:12:34,280 Speaker 1: the top of the order in terms of strength of 291 00:12:34,320 --> 00:12:38,079 Speaker 1: schedule remaining is San Francisco and then Seattle. The Rams 292 00:12:38,120 --> 00:12:40,960 Speaker 1: at three in the division, this could really work in 293 00:12:41,000 --> 00:12:43,160 Speaker 1: their favor. And I already asked, is it that far 294 00:12:43,240 --> 00:12:47,560 Speaker 1: out of reach? The numbers and history don't go our direction. However, 295 00:12:48,160 --> 00:12:50,679 Speaker 1: the Rams have proven it before. So what do you 296 00:12:50,720 --> 00:12:52,000 Speaker 1: feel like they have to do? Do they have to 297 00:12:52,000 --> 00:12:55,920 Speaker 1: pick up both of these wins in the next five days. 298 00:12:57,000 --> 00:13:00,360 Speaker 2: I don't want to say its must win to that extent, 299 00:13:00,440 --> 00:13:02,920 Speaker 2: but I do think I mean, yeah, they do need 300 00:13:02,960 --> 00:13:05,640 Speaker 2: to take advantage of having these two home games in 301 00:13:05,679 --> 00:13:09,320 Speaker 2: five days, especially when you consider that you'll be when 302 00:13:09,360 --> 00:13:13,400 Speaker 2: you do resume, you know, traveling or roadplay, that you're 303 00:13:13,400 --> 00:13:16,840 Speaker 2: going to be at Seattle at the beginning of November. 304 00:13:17,000 --> 00:13:20,440 Speaker 2: So getting a couple wins in this stretch would be 305 00:13:20,640 --> 00:13:23,080 Speaker 2: absolutely huge, like I said earlier, for not only making 306 00:13:23,160 --> 00:13:26,160 Speaker 2: up that ground, but also just you know, getting yourself 307 00:13:26,160 --> 00:13:28,160 Speaker 2: on the right track and being in a good space 308 00:13:28,200 --> 00:13:31,439 Speaker 2: going into what's obviously one of the most challenging road 309 00:13:31,520 --> 00:13:32,720 Speaker 2: environments in the league. 310 00:13:33,080 --> 00:13:35,800 Speaker 3: It's funny. I feel like every game is a must 311 00:13:35,800 --> 00:13:38,800 Speaker 3: win in the NFL, just because of how certain teams 312 00:13:38,800 --> 00:13:42,840 Speaker 3: playing in certain teams. But it's funny how Arizona's been 313 00:13:42,840 --> 00:13:45,600 Speaker 3: playing lately. After they played the Rams, right, that wasn't 314 00:13:45,640 --> 00:13:47,400 Speaker 3: the same team. They haven't been the same team we've 315 00:13:47,400 --> 00:13:49,880 Speaker 3: seen in week since Week two, which is very interesting. 316 00:13:49,880 --> 00:13:51,760 Speaker 3: And then Niners have their own issues trying to figure 317 00:13:51,760 --> 00:13:54,400 Speaker 3: out offensive without CMC. They have a lot of guys 318 00:13:54,440 --> 00:13:56,880 Speaker 3: banged up, and they've been struggling as well. You're right, 319 00:13:56,880 --> 00:13:58,360 Speaker 3: this is gonna be a tough game. This is almost 320 00:13:58,400 --> 00:14:00,400 Speaker 3: a game for the Niners that they need to win 321 00:14:00,520 --> 00:14:02,600 Speaker 3: to get confidence, to feel like they're back that team 322 00:14:02,640 --> 00:14:04,559 Speaker 3: that can contend in Super Bowls. And then if you 323 00:14:04,559 --> 00:14:07,800 Speaker 3: look at Seattle, Seattle was three and oh right, and 324 00:14:07,840 --> 00:14:10,240 Speaker 3: all of a sudden they've lost. They've lost three straight 325 00:14:10,280 --> 00:14:13,240 Speaker 3: and there's something going on where they can't figure it out. 326 00:14:13,320 --> 00:14:15,080 Speaker 3: I mean, they're losing the teams that you feel like 327 00:14:15,559 --> 00:14:17,760 Speaker 3: they should have had the handle, especially at home, right 328 00:14:17,800 --> 00:14:20,040 Speaker 3: because it's always tough to go to the Northwest, Fron anywhere, 329 00:14:20,080 --> 00:14:22,640 Speaker 3: And so to me, I think the Rams are in 330 00:14:22,720 --> 00:14:25,920 Speaker 3: prime position, prime position, meaning early in the year, there 331 00:14:25,960 --> 00:14:28,960 Speaker 3: was a lot of expectation. Everyone was kind of buzzing, 332 00:14:29,560 --> 00:14:31,880 Speaker 3: you know, you were coming back all these things, and 333 00:14:31,960 --> 00:14:33,920 Speaker 3: that expectations kind of dropped a little bit, which means 334 00:14:33,920 --> 00:14:36,560 Speaker 3: you're under the radar. And if you can just stack 335 00:14:36,640 --> 00:14:40,120 Speaker 3: one win, which is again, this Raiders team, there's a 336 00:14:40,120 --> 00:14:45,480 Speaker 3: lot of they're all messed up. I don't even know 337 00:14:45,480 --> 00:14:49,280 Speaker 3: what this everyone it's called. But again I'm in China 338 00:14:49,400 --> 00:14:54,560 Speaker 3: and discombobulated. I just feel like, yeah, well, they have 339 00:14:54,600 --> 00:14:56,600 Speaker 3: a fracture in their locker room right now, right when 340 00:14:56,600 --> 00:14:59,240 Speaker 3: you trade away Devonte Adams. You know, as much as 341 00:14:59,240 --> 00:15:00,960 Speaker 3: I love Antonio, here's why. I was a good friend 342 00:15:00,960 --> 00:15:04,800 Speaker 3: of mine, played against them, grew up with them, coached 343 00:15:04,800 --> 00:15:08,240 Speaker 3: against them. He's trying to create a certain culture there, 344 00:15:08,320 --> 00:15:10,320 Speaker 3: right and so they have some issues that they're fighting 345 00:15:10,360 --> 00:15:12,760 Speaker 3: through right now. This is a great time to kind 346 00:15:12,760 --> 00:15:15,160 Speaker 3: of get a nice jumpstart on the team that's that's 347 00:15:15,160 --> 00:15:16,720 Speaker 3: trying to figure out who they are. And then you 348 00:15:16,800 --> 00:15:20,080 Speaker 3: get the Minnesota Vikings at home on a Thursday. And 349 00:15:20,600 --> 00:15:22,800 Speaker 3: the best part about that is if you're able to 350 00:15:23,640 --> 00:15:27,360 Speaker 3: win Sunday win Thursday, that Thursday game is gonna be 351 00:15:27,480 --> 00:15:30,880 Speaker 3: huge because that's top of the NFC right now. Right 352 00:15:30,880 --> 00:15:33,200 Speaker 3: the Minnesota Vikings are the top the upper echeline of 353 00:15:33,200 --> 00:15:34,600 Speaker 3: the NFC. So if you're able to find a way 354 00:15:34,640 --> 00:15:36,880 Speaker 3: to get that victory, then all of a sudden, now 355 00:15:36,920 --> 00:15:38,920 Speaker 3: you have confidence rolling in and then you can go 356 00:15:38,960 --> 00:15:44,840 Speaker 3: into Seattle energy effort. Confidence, we're playing better, We're doing 357 00:15:44,880 --> 00:15:47,680 Speaker 3: what we need to do, and you know, I think again, 358 00:15:47,880 --> 00:15:50,880 Speaker 3: that's the biggest thing, the biggest issue for our fans. 359 00:15:50,880 --> 00:15:53,160 Speaker 3: It's never a talent issue in the NFL. It's always 360 00:15:53,200 --> 00:15:55,360 Speaker 3: who's more confident in their scheme and what they're doing. 361 00:15:55,880 --> 00:15:58,000 Speaker 3: And so that's kind of what you're hoping that the 362 00:15:58,080 --> 00:16:00,360 Speaker 3: Rams get these next two weeks, is that they can 363 00:16:00,400 --> 00:16:02,080 Speaker 3: go while these other teams are having to fight this 364 00:16:02,200 --> 00:16:04,480 Speaker 3: uphill battle, you're under the radar and you can just 365 00:16:04,560 --> 00:16:06,440 Speaker 3: chop away game after game and find a way to 366 00:16:06,440 --> 00:16:06,720 Speaker 3: win it. 367 00:16:07,240 --> 00:16:10,560 Speaker 1: I love it. All Right, let's reset offensive and defensive 368 00:16:10,600 --> 00:16:13,080 Speaker 1: play coming out of the buy. Maybe some adjustments that 369 00:16:13,120 --> 00:16:16,160 Speaker 1: we might see. The good news is there's been a 370 00:16:16,200 --> 00:16:19,040 Speaker 1: lot of talk about Cooper Cup this week. There's potential 371 00:16:19,080 --> 00:16:20,800 Speaker 1: that we may see him. 372 00:16:21,080 --> 00:16:25,720 Speaker 3: Is that true. I'm just saying I have him. He's 373 00:16:25,800 --> 00:16:27,400 Speaker 3: in there right now. But Stu, I need you to 374 00:16:27,480 --> 00:16:28,000 Speaker 3: let me know. 375 00:16:29,320 --> 00:16:32,000 Speaker 2: He's trending in the right direction, but possibly plays. 376 00:16:32,080 --> 00:16:32,880 Speaker 3: I know what that means. 377 00:16:33,000 --> 00:16:35,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, so I know that coach talk yep. So that 378 00:16:35,880 --> 00:16:39,920 Speaker 2: that's from McVeigh. I mean that, no official designation or 379 00:16:39,960 --> 00:16:42,520 Speaker 2: status as far as whether he'll play or not. But 380 00:16:43,480 --> 00:16:46,200 Speaker 2: got an individual got some individuals. 381 00:16:45,800 --> 00:16:47,160 Speaker 3: Look great too by the way. 382 00:16:47,280 --> 00:16:49,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, was moving was moving well at least from I 383 00:16:49,800 --> 00:16:52,120 Speaker 2: can tell what I could tell. I mean again, uh, 384 00:16:52,720 --> 00:16:54,640 Speaker 2: the full breakdown of that, I'll leave to the experts 385 00:16:54,720 --> 00:16:57,880 Speaker 2: that people who are actually monitoring his workouts more closely. 386 00:16:57,960 --> 00:17:01,000 Speaker 2: But yeah, we'll see me obviously, as we all know, 387 00:17:01,040 --> 00:17:04,040 Speaker 2: if he if he coults back, that would be a huge, 388 00:17:04,119 --> 00:17:07,440 Speaker 2: huge boost for this offense. And I think we'd also 389 00:17:07,760 --> 00:17:10,040 Speaker 2: you know, help with especially some of the issues that 390 00:17:10,080 --> 00:17:13,280 Speaker 2: we've seen in those one possession losses where you know, 391 00:17:13,320 --> 00:17:16,119 Speaker 2: you have that you know, that chemistry that again we 392 00:17:16,200 --> 00:17:19,320 Speaker 2: all have known and have seen between him and Stafford 393 00:17:19,320 --> 00:17:22,359 Speaker 2: where they're very rarely, if ever had are they not 394 00:17:22,400 --> 00:17:24,440 Speaker 2: on the same page in those situations, and they can 395 00:17:24,520 --> 00:17:28,160 Speaker 2: just you know connect and get those things back on track. 396 00:17:28,240 --> 00:17:32,560 Speaker 2: But yeah, so we'll see looking good, but still to 397 00:17:32,800 --> 00:17:33,680 Speaker 2: be determined. 398 00:17:33,840 --> 00:17:35,800 Speaker 1: How does the dynamic shift if he is back in 399 00:17:35,840 --> 00:17:37,320 Speaker 1: the mix offensively, I. 400 00:17:37,520 --> 00:17:40,000 Speaker 3: Think it's a it's a huge It's a huge victory 401 00:17:40,040 --> 00:17:42,320 Speaker 3: for not only the Rams in general, but for like 402 00:17:42,400 --> 00:17:44,560 Speaker 3: two two at well. Right, who's been kind of the 403 00:17:44,600 --> 00:17:47,480 Speaker 3: guy the focal point of the passing game, Kobe Parkinson, 404 00:17:47,560 --> 00:17:51,080 Speaker 3: he should be see less coverage or eyes on him, 405 00:17:51,080 --> 00:17:52,800 Speaker 3: and a lot of that should go there. Then, I 406 00:17:52,840 --> 00:17:56,160 Speaker 3: also believe you what you've done through the last couple 407 00:17:56,160 --> 00:17:58,480 Speaker 3: of weeks, he hasn't been there. You've created depth, meaning 408 00:17:58,480 --> 00:18:00,480 Speaker 3: that he doesn't have to play a high percent of 409 00:18:00,480 --> 00:18:02,800 Speaker 3: the snaps right, give him a break here or there. 410 00:18:03,359 --> 00:18:05,439 Speaker 3: As you've gained more trust than these other guys that 411 00:18:05,480 --> 00:18:07,679 Speaker 3: are making plays. And then when Puka comes back, all 412 00:18:07,680 --> 00:18:09,879 Speaker 3: of a sudden, now we have six guys that we 413 00:18:09,880 --> 00:18:12,000 Speaker 3: can trust to go out there role and we don't 414 00:18:12,040 --> 00:18:14,200 Speaker 3: have to run these guys into the ground. That's a 415 00:18:14,200 --> 00:18:17,080 Speaker 3: little bit. That's like from an analyst standpoint. As a coach, 416 00:18:17,280 --> 00:18:19,399 Speaker 3: we always want our best guys out there, but I 417 00:18:19,440 --> 00:18:21,160 Speaker 3: think those other guys have earned a lot of trust. 418 00:18:21,200 --> 00:18:23,160 Speaker 3: I think Jordan Winnington's earned a ton of trust both 419 00:18:23,200 --> 00:18:25,000 Speaker 3: in the running game and the way he's blocking and 420 00:18:25,080 --> 00:18:26,720 Speaker 3: also catching the ball over the middle of the field, 421 00:18:27,000 --> 00:18:30,000 Speaker 3: right running those deep end routes or crossing routes two 422 00:18:30,040 --> 00:18:33,760 Speaker 3: two ouls again finding ways to create separation right understanding 423 00:18:34,040 --> 00:18:37,480 Speaker 3: who he is, and it seemed like again it felt 424 00:18:37,560 --> 00:18:39,679 Speaker 3: like the Rams are kind of going away from him 425 00:18:39,680 --> 00:18:42,200 Speaker 3: a little bit, and then now it's like he drug 426 00:18:42,280 --> 00:18:43,879 Speaker 3: him back in, Like, look, I can still make plays 427 00:18:43,880 --> 00:18:46,040 Speaker 3: and be a difference maker on this team, stretching the 428 00:18:46,040 --> 00:18:48,879 Speaker 3: field vertically as well as breaking those comebacks out of 429 00:18:48,880 --> 00:18:52,840 Speaker 3: those out routes. So having Cooper Cup back puts more 430 00:18:52,840 --> 00:18:55,080 Speaker 3: pressure on the opposite defense because I just mentioned all 431 00:18:55,080 --> 00:18:57,160 Speaker 3: these guys and we're going to talk about another guy 432 00:18:57,200 --> 00:18:59,520 Speaker 3: here in the running game soon that I think will 433 00:18:59,560 --> 00:19:01,359 Speaker 3: help again, right, I think the Rams have done a 434 00:19:01,359 --> 00:19:04,080 Speaker 3: great job of building his roster. It's just getting everybody 435 00:19:04,119 --> 00:19:06,520 Speaker 3: out there on the same page, playing at the same time. 436 00:19:07,600 --> 00:19:09,680 Speaker 1: The first thing I thought of was red zone. It's 437 00:19:09,680 --> 00:19:12,320 Speaker 1: been a conversation through the first five weeks of play 438 00:19:12,359 --> 00:19:13,960 Speaker 1: for the Los Angeles Rams, and just to give you 439 00:19:14,000 --> 00:19:16,080 Speaker 1: some numbers for Cooper Cup He's been the number one 440 00:19:16,160 --> 00:19:18,360 Speaker 1: red zone threat for the Rams all except for two 441 00:19:18,480 --> 00:19:21,679 Speaker 1: years when he had some injuries, But just some more 442 00:19:21,760 --> 00:19:24,399 Speaker 1: numbers for you. Ninety receptions on one hundred and thirty 443 00:19:24,400 --> 00:19:26,840 Speaker 1: four targets. That's in the red zone alone for six 444 00:19:26,960 --> 00:19:29,120 Speaker 1: hundred and sixty one yards. He has thirty seven red 445 00:19:29,200 --> 00:19:32,520 Speaker 1: zone touchdowns. The number one threat returning hopefully to the 446 00:19:32,560 --> 00:19:36,960 Speaker 1: Los Angeles Rams this week, let's talk a little defense. Actually, no, 447 00:19:37,040 --> 00:19:40,560 Speaker 1: you mentioned another running back, Blake carm We saw the mixture. 448 00:19:40,920 --> 00:19:43,200 Speaker 1: It was nice to see him out there versus Green Bay. 449 00:19:43,880 --> 00:19:46,159 Speaker 1: Your thoughts on his performance and how that could be 450 00:19:46,240 --> 00:19:47,680 Speaker 1: maybe a two headed monster. 451 00:19:47,800 --> 00:19:49,320 Speaker 3: I thought, I thought he did an awesome job and 452 00:19:49,400 --> 00:19:53,520 Speaker 3: I felt like he's very explosive, right, you see it, 453 00:19:53,520 --> 00:19:56,560 Speaker 3: the way he moves. I love what Kiren does. He 454 00:19:56,640 --> 00:19:58,800 Speaker 3: just moves different, and maybe because he's a little fresher, 455 00:19:58,840 --> 00:20:02,439 Speaker 3: a little younger, Kiren does an awesome job of manipulating 456 00:20:02,520 --> 00:20:05,720 Speaker 3: linebackers and he's great in the past game and we've 457 00:20:05,720 --> 00:20:07,359 Speaker 3: seen him explode. But to be able to put another 458 00:20:07,359 --> 00:20:09,919 Speaker 3: guy in there to give him a break, right, I 459 00:20:09,960 --> 00:20:13,680 Speaker 3: think it just makes the Rams more explosive. As Blake 460 00:20:13,760 --> 00:20:16,760 Speaker 3: continues to understand the offense and grow, the more confident 461 00:20:16,760 --> 00:20:19,479 Speaker 3: they get in him, the more he can play, the 462 00:20:19,480 --> 00:20:22,200 Speaker 3: more Matthew Stafford can feel comfortable to check the ball 463 00:20:22,240 --> 00:20:24,800 Speaker 3: down to him right and to see him. To me, 464 00:20:25,400 --> 00:20:28,959 Speaker 3: that draft pick was the key to this offense because 465 00:20:29,000 --> 00:20:31,640 Speaker 3: I've been in a two headed running back and room 466 00:20:31,680 --> 00:20:35,440 Speaker 3: with myself and Fred Taylor. It was unstoppable. And we 467 00:20:35,440 --> 00:20:38,320 Speaker 3: weren't the best passing team we like, And it's not 468 00:20:38,400 --> 00:20:40,480 Speaker 3: that Cooper Cup like, we had bigger guys, but we 469 00:20:40,520 --> 00:20:42,880 Speaker 3: didn't throw the ball. We ran the ball eighty percent 470 00:20:42,920 --> 00:20:45,120 Speaker 3: of the time, seventy percent of the time. So when 471 00:20:45,240 --> 00:20:48,600 Speaker 3: you can still win ten twelve games running the ball 472 00:20:48,880 --> 00:20:51,359 Speaker 3: like that much, and imagine that with what the Rams 473 00:20:51,400 --> 00:20:53,720 Speaker 3: have right with all the motions and shifts and be 474 00:20:53,760 --> 00:20:56,080 Speaker 3: able to split those carries, and how that'll carry you 475 00:20:56,080 --> 00:20:58,879 Speaker 3: throughout the season. Especially you know, as our fans, no, 476 00:20:58,920 --> 00:21:04,280 Speaker 3: football doesn't really start counting counting until Thanksgiving. Once they 477 00:21:04,320 --> 00:21:06,719 Speaker 3: get Thanksgiving hits, that's when you know where you are. 478 00:21:06,800 --> 00:21:08,840 Speaker 3: That's why it's like there's so much more time left 479 00:21:09,000 --> 00:21:12,320 Speaker 3: for the Rams. As soon as they Thanksgiving hits, you're like, okay, 480 00:21:12,320 --> 00:21:14,159 Speaker 3: where a my position now to make this run at 481 00:21:14,200 --> 00:21:17,280 Speaker 3: the playoffs? Very similar last year Thanksgiving hit, the Rams 482 00:21:17,320 --> 00:21:18,880 Speaker 3: were able to figure out where they were then they 483 00:21:18,920 --> 00:21:21,600 Speaker 3: ran off some play some games and won, so they 484 00:21:21,640 --> 00:21:23,359 Speaker 3: have some time. But as long as they can continue 485 00:21:23,359 --> 00:21:26,120 Speaker 3: to get healthy and get these younger guys playing offensively, 486 00:21:27,080 --> 00:21:29,000 Speaker 3: I don't I think your red zone woes will go away. 487 00:21:30,359 --> 00:21:33,680 Speaker 3: I think you become a very explosive offense where you're 488 00:21:33,680 --> 00:21:39,560 Speaker 3: not having those twelve fifteen play drives, you'll have seven eight, 489 00:21:40,520 --> 00:21:43,520 Speaker 3: you know, five four, maybe a one play touchdown drive 490 00:21:43,560 --> 00:21:45,600 Speaker 3: because you take a shot down the field or you 491 00:21:45,600 --> 00:21:46,960 Speaker 3: can check the ball down and the guy can go 492 00:21:47,040 --> 00:21:50,000 Speaker 3: to the house. So Blake Koram did an awesome job 493 00:21:50,040 --> 00:21:53,600 Speaker 3: against the Packers. I think his explosiveness makes his offense 494 00:21:53,640 --> 00:21:54,760 Speaker 3: so much more dangerous. Though. 495 00:21:54,840 --> 00:21:56,520 Speaker 2: The other thing I'll say too about blakekorm that I 496 00:21:56,520 --> 00:21:58,920 Speaker 2: really like is you see him use those jump cuts 497 00:21:58,960 --> 00:22:01,600 Speaker 2: sometimes where like, you know, there may not be something there, 498 00:22:01,680 --> 00:22:03,960 Speaker 2: kind of similar to Kyroen, where like you know, he'll 499 00:22:04,040 --> 00:22:06,680 Speaker 2: use a jump cut to make something out of nothing basically, 500 00:22:06,720 --> 00:22:09,040 Speaker 2: and next thing you know, he's, you know, gaining five 501 00:22:09,119 --> 00:22:10,720 Speaker 2: or six yards on a play that looks like it 502 00:22:10,800 --> 00:22:11,760 Speaker 2: might be going for a loss. 503 00:22:11,840 --> 00:22:12,720 Speaker 3: That's what you're looking for. 504 00:22:12,880 --> 00:22:15,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, so having two of those is obviously something that's 505 00:22:15,200 --> 00:22:17,920 Speaker 2: especially helpful. For keeping the offense ahead of schedule and 506 00:22:17,960 --> 00:22:19,359 Speaker 2: ahead of those change chains. 507 00:22:19,480 --> 00:22:21,720 Speaker 1: All right, let's switch gears defensive side of the ball. 508 00:22:21,760 --> 00:22:24,040 Speaker 1: We saw a bit of a different look in the 509 00:22:24,240 --> 00:22:28,119 Speaker 1: secondary against the Packers, Josh Wallace in the mix. Do 510 00:22:28,160 --> 00:22:31,000 Speaker 1: you expect to see a different look or maybe the 511 00:22:31,040 --> 00:22:32,160 Speaker 1: same from Green Bay? 512 00:22:32,600 --> 00:22:35,080 Speaker 2: Well? See, I mean, one thing that maybe they kind 513 00:22:35,080 --> 00:22:37,280 Speaker 2: of alluded to was the fact that you know, some 514 00:22:37,359 --> 00:22:40,520 Speaker 2: of those rotations and adjustments to the secondary were based 515 00:22:40,520 --> 00:22:44,000 Speaker 2: on essentially how they were approaching and preparing for the Packers. 516 00:22:44,440 --> 00:22:46,639 Speaker 2: Could be a different story depending on what they see 517 00:22:47,240 --> 00:22:51,520 Speaker 2: on tape against the Raiders obviously, but sounded like from 518 00:22:51,760 --> 00:22:54,240 Speaker 2: especially at the cornerback position, he's pretty happy with how 519 00:22:54,240 --> 00:22:56,919 Speaker 2: that looked, and it sounds like the way that they 520 00:22:57,040 --> 00:22:59,000 Speaker 2: use the corners is the way that we'll continue to 521 00:22:59,040 --> 00:23:03,480 Speaker 2: see that for this week. We'll see with the with 522 00:23:03,560 --> 00:23:08,399 Speaker 2: the safety position. But obviously it was huge having Darius 523 00:23:08,400 --> 00:23:13,520 Speaker 2: Williams back, and like I said, we'll see what happens 524 00:23:13,680 --> 00:23:15,280 Speaker 2: in terms of like if we see more of Jalen 525 00:23:15,359 --> 00:23:18,760 Speaker 2: mccolla and Josh Wallace again like we did previously. 526 00:23:18,359 --> 00:23:20,159 Speaker 3: I feel like, you know something you kind of like 527 00:23:20,240 --> 00:23:24,119 Speaker 3: going around it. I'll say this. I talking with the 528 00:23:24,119 --> 00:23:26,440 Speaker 3: coaches early in the year. They were still trying to 529 00:23:26,480 --> 00:23:28,760 Speaker 3: figure out what this secondary is going to look like, 530 00:23:28,800 --> 00:23:30,560 Speaker 3: and and I feel like they don't have an answer 531 00:23:30,640 --> 00:23:32,520 Speaker 3: yet and they're still trying to figure those things out, 532 00:23:32,720 --> 00:23:35,199 Speaker 3: and that's gonna happen. Especially again, we talked about it 533 00:23:35,240 --> 00:23:38,560 Speaker 3: how this defense was a work in progress, and as 534 00:23:38,640 --> 00:23:42,480 Speaker 3: much as I think as fans or as people that 535 00:23:42,480 --> 00:23:44,280 Speaker 3: aren't in the building all the time, or as coaches, 536 00:23:44,320 --> 00:23:45,880 Speaker 3: it's like, well, you should just go with this group 537 00:23:45,960 --> 00:23:48,240 Speaker 3: and just let like no, no, no, no. Like I 538 00:23:48,280 --> 00:23:51,159 Speaker 3: think Sean McVay said it, best, competition breeds greatness, Like 539 00:23:51,240 --> 00:23:53,359 Speaker 3: you have to figure out, Okay, you're not playing the 540 00:23:53,400 --> 00:23:54,639 Speaker 3: best right now, we need to put someone else in 541 00:23:54,640 --> 00:23:56,320 Speaker 3: and see what they could do your job. Maybe that 542 00:23:56,320 --> 00:23:58,359 Speaker 3: brings the best out of you. Maybe you you you know, 543 00:23:58,400 --> 00:24:00,560 Speaker 3: you start to pick it up a little bit. And 544 00:24:00,640 --> 00:24:03,639 Speaker 3: so to me, figuring out the best four that you 545 00:24:03,640 --> 00:24:05,639 Speaker 3: can have back there to start in your base or 546 00:24:05,680 --> 00:24:07,680 Speaker 3: the best five out there if you're a nickel is 547 00:24:07,720 --> 00:24:10,920 Speaker 3: going to be important because again we saw the secondary 548 00:24:11,000 --> 00:24:13,000 Speaker 3: kind of they've been giving up some chunk plays here 549 00:24:13,000 --> 00:24:14,280 Speaker 3: and there, So you got to make sure that you 550 00:24:14,920 --> 00:24:17,320 Speaker 3: tighten that up and lock it in whoever it may be. 551 00:24:18,200 --> 00:24:19,760 Speaker 3: It's gonna be interesting to see this week and then 552 00:24:19,760 --> 00:24:23,640 Speaker 3: obviously on our short week after that, find a way 553 00:24:23,640 --> 00:24:26,640 Speaker 3: to make plays. And I think that's gonna be you know, 554 00:24:26,960 --> 00:24:30,120 Speaker 3: it's easy to say that, but having the right eyes 555 00:24:30,160 --> 00:24:31,840 Speaker 3: where your eyes are supposed to be, making sure you're 556 00:24:31,880 --> 00:24:34,159 Speaker 3: in the right position and have the right leverage. Those 557 00:24:34,200 --> 00:24:36,480 Speaker 3: are the little things that the Rams safeties or secondary 558 00:24:36,480 --> 00:24:38,080 Speaker 3: and needs to fix and get right. 559 00:24:38,400 --> 00:24:41,000 Speaker 1: The Rams look to solidify their run defense, and there's 560 00:24:41,000 --> 00:24:43,800 Speaker 1: been a lot of conversation around the linebacking group. Do 561 00:24:43,880 --> 00:24:47,760 Speaker 1: you anticipate maybe seeing Omar Spas in the mix? 562 00:24:48,480 --> 00:24:51,679 Speaker 2: Well? See, I mean one thing I saw online some 563 00:24:51,720 --> 00:24:54,040 Speaker 2: of the comparisons as far as like, you know, pro 564 00:24:54,080 --> 00:24:58,439 Speaker 2: football focused grades and comparing them to current starters versus 565 00:24:58,440 --> 00:25:01,199 Speaker 2: guys who played in the preseason, where he says, you know, 566 00:25:01,359 --> 00:25:04,240 Speaker 2: like that's not exactly an apples to apples comparison. And 567 00:25:04,320 --> 00:25:08,359 Speaker 2: so again, one thing that McBay had mentioned before is 568 00:25:08,359 --> 00:25:13,200 Speaker 2: that you know, if if those changes were necessary, then 569 00:25:13,240 --> 00:25:16,440 Speaker 2: like basically the guys who and and it was warranted, 570 00:25:16,480 --> 00:25:18,720 Speaker 2: like the guys who would be out there, like who 571 00:25:18,760 --> 00:25:23,200 Speaker 2: have those opportunities would would be playing. But you know, ultimately, 572 00:25:23,400 --> 00:25:26,520 Speaker 2: like he's they're gonna there could be more changes on 573 00:25:26,520 --> 00:25:28,960 Speaker 2: the way, we'll see, you know, he mentioned obviously like 574 00:25:29,240 --> 00:25:32,119 Speaker 2: they're obviously in consideration of, you know, whatever's best for 575 00:25:32,200 --> 00:25:36,680 Speaker 2: the team, and so who knows does that mean more 576 00:25:37,040 --> 00:25:40,159 Speaker 2: even just like a handful more snaps for Omar Spates 577 00:25:40,160 --> 00:25:45,440 Speaker 2: compared to you know, the basically the snaps that really 578 00:25:45,440 --> 00:25:48,080 Speaker 2: hasn't been getting at all, or you know, what does 579 00:25:48,080 --> 00:25:50,240 Speaker 2: that mean exactly for inside linebackers some of these other 580 00:25:50,280 --> 00:25:55,320 Speaker 2: positions we'll see. But again, and I think the other 581 00:25:55,359 --> 00:25:57,040 Speaker 2: thing you have to keep in mind too, especially with 582 00:25:57,080 --> 00:25:59,680 Speaker 2: some of these position changes, and I'm talking about inside 583 00:25:59,720 --> 00:26:01,680 Speaker 2: line by because that's the one that's been generating the 584 00:26:01,680 --> 00:26:05,120 Speaker 2: most conversation right now. You know, Troy Reader is the 585 00:26:05,119 --> 00:26:09,040 Speaker 2: green dot, the onfield defensive signal caller. Like any adjustment 586 00:26:09,080 --> 00:26:11,359 Speaker 2: you make like that, Now, if if you decide to 587 00:26:11,359 --> 00:26:14,560 Speaker 2: make changes there, that affects the operation, the whole operation 588 00:26:14,680 --> 00:26:17,800 Speaker 2: of the defense. And so there are just a lot 589 00:26:17,840 --> 00:26:21,600 Speaker 2: of factors in play between a player's readiness. Uh, the 590 00:26:21,640 --> 00:26:25,159 Speaker 2: transition for preseeds is in the regular season, and I mean, 591 00:26:25,160 --> 00:26:27,199 Speaker 2: I'm sure I'm forgetting some other factors as well. But 592 00:26:27,840 --> 00:26:28,840 Speaker 2: I don't know, how do you see that? 593 00:26:28,920 --> 00:26:30,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, well, I would say this you first and foremost, 594 00:26:30,800 --> 00:26:33,240 Speaker 3: you have to look at how the Rams allocate their resources, right, 595 00:26:33,640 --> 00:26:36,399 Speaker 3: They don't really allocate a lot of resource to the 596 00:26:36,440 --> 00:26:39,520 Speaker 3: inside linebacker position, the off ball backer. They look the 597 00:26:39,560 --> 00:26:43,480 Speaker 3: outside backer, they look to corner. Uh they loved obviously 598 00:26:43,560 --> 00:26:46,520 Speaker 3: d line pressure, and so you're gonna lose some there 599 00:26:46,520 --> 00:26:49,560 Speaker 3: if you're not allocating resources to that position. Where if 600 00:26:49,560 --> 00:26:51,800 Speaker 3: you look at the Niners, for example, they they allocate 601 00:26:51,840 --> 00:26:55,040 Speaker 3: a lot of resources the off off ball linebacker. So 602 00:26:55,520 --> 00:26:58,719 Speaker 3: it's just it's just a different philosophy with saying that. 603 00:26:58,760 --> 00:27:00,439 Speaker 3: And I understand I see all that as well. And 604 00:27:00,480 --> 00:27:02,119 Speaker 3: I know there's a lot of fans that are, you know, 605 00:27:02,320 --> 00:27:05,879 Speaker 3: clamoring for a more space or changes or trades or 606 00:27:05,880 --> 00:27:08,639 Speaker 3: whatever it may be. You have to understand and trust 607 00:27:08,640 --> 00:27:10,800 Speaker 3: that Sean mcvah and this staff, they've been doing this 608 00:27:10,840 --> 00:27:13,480 Speaker 3: for a long time, and Sean is an offensive mind, 609 00:27:13,760 --> 00:27:17,800 Speaker 3: knows how to really manipulate that position, and so he's 610 00:27:17,800 --> 00:27:20,639 Speaker 3: gonna put who they believe are going to give them 611 00:27:20,640 --> 00:27:24,520 Speaker 3: the best chance to win. At times, some of the 612 00:27:24,520 --> 00:27:26,439 Speaker 3: guys rose Boom or Reader. They're not the best in 613 00:27:26,480 --> 00:27:28,440 Speaker 3: space and we know that. I mean, that's just it's 614 00:27:28,440 --> 00:27:30,480 Speaker 3: been like that since they've been here. And it's not 615 00:27:30,520 --> 00:27:32,520 Speaker 3: saying that they care or they can't do it. It's just 616 00:27:32,640 --> 00:27:35,640 Speaker 3: when you have Roseboom match up on DJ Moore, that's 617 00:27:35,640 --> 00:27:38,560 Speaker 3: a matchup that the Bears like. I think DJ Moore 618 00:27:38,560 --> 00:27:40,800 Speaker 3: and a lot of people the Bears would like that situation. 619 00:27:40,920 --> 00:27:43,200 Speaker 3: So you just have to find ways to put those 620 00:27:43,240 --> 00:27:45,600 Speaker 3: guys in position. That's where the coaching comes in. Put 621 00:27:45,600 --> 00:27:48,680 Speaker 3: them in a better position to be successful. And that's 622 00:27:48,760 --> 00:27:50,760 Speaker 3: kind of going to it maybe limited you a little bit, 623 00:27:51,119 --> 00:27:53,080 Speaker 3: it may not, but you want to make sure you're 624 00:27:53,080 --> 00:27:55,240 Speaker 3: putting those guys and a chance to have a high 625 00:27:55,280 --> 00:28:01,000 Speaker 3: success rate. And I think teams have kind of offensively 626 00:28:01,000 --> 00:28:03,359 Speaker 3: information to put them in a position and not have 627 00:28:03,400 --> 00:28:05,119 Speaker 3: as much success. And that's why you're seeing a lot 628 00:28:05,200 --> 00:28:08,680 Speaker 3: of the issue. So maybe Omar space the answer. Again. 629 00:28:08,680 --> 00:28:10,320 Speaker 3: I was one of the big fans of him coming 630 00:28:10,320 --> 00:28:13,920 Speaker 3: out of preseason where he was like the most physical 631 00:28:14,000 --> 00:28:16,199 Speaker 3: dude I'd ever like. It was awesome to see that, 632 00:28:16,680 --> 00:28:20,080 Speaker 3: but I also understand the preseason, Like when I played 633 00:28:20,080 --> 00:28:21,760 Speaker 3: in the preseas, it was like, look, don't touch me. 634 00:28:22,600 --> 00:28:23,920 Speaker 3: I'm trying to get out of bounds. I was gonna 635 00:28:23,960 --> 00:28:25,879 Speaker 3: give him a look and then I'm out of here, right. 636 00:28:25,920 --> 00:28:27,800 Speaker 3: And so I know it's a little bit different when 637 00:28:27,840 --> 00:28:30,840 Speaker 3: you get into the regular season and coaches are scheming. 638 00:28:30,880 --> 00:28:33,639 Speaker 3: They have guys spending hours and hours and hours weeks 639 00:28:33,640 --> 00:28:36,280 Speaker 3: on weeks and weeks on one game. Right, And I'll 640 00:28:36,280 --> 00:28:38,800 Speaker 3: give our fans a quick a quick insight on it. 641 00:28:39,640 --> 00:28:42,680 Speaker 3: We were in Arizona, and who do we play after 642 00:28:42,680 --> 00:28:44,680 Speaker 3: to Arizona? We played the Niners? Right, who do you 643 00:28:44,680 --> 00:28:48,120 Speaker 3: play after the Niners? It was Chicago, Chicago. There was 644 00:28:48,160 --> 00:28:51,000 Speaker 3: a scout from Chicago at the Arizona game that I 645 00:28:51,080 --> 00:28:53,520 Speaker 3: know who was scouting the Rams because they play him 646 00:28:53,520 --> 00:28:55,920 Speaker 3: two weeks from now, and so they they scout weeks 647 00:28:55,960 --> 00:28:57,960 Speaker 3: ahead of time to figure out how to do this, 648 00:28:58,040 --> 00:29:00,000 Speaker 3: and then they give that information to the coaching staff 649 00:29:00,360 --> 00:29:03,800 Speaker 3: for that week. So understand that, you know people are 650 00:29:04,200 --> 00:29:06,320 Speaker 3: figuring out how to do that. It's just again, you 651 00:29:06,360 --> 00:29:08,080 Speaker 3: want to try to do your best as a coach 652 00:29:08,120 --> 00:29:09,920 Speaker 3: to put them in the best chance to be successful. 653 00:29:10,000 --> 00:29:11,520 Speaker 2: The other thing I'll add to that real quick too, 654 00:29:11,640 --> 00:29:15,280 Speaker 2: is I asked McVay the other day in this press conference, Like, basically, 655 00:29:15,280 --> 00:29:18,640 Speaker 2: how do you weigh having enough of a sample size 656 00:29:18,640 --> 00:29:22,440 Speaker 2: and enough health essentially at a position to know when 657 00:29:22,720 --> 00:29:26,600 Speaker 2: a change is warranted versus it just being simply being 658 00:29:26,600 --> 00:29:28,840 Speaker 2: a matter of you know, getting healthy at a position 659 00:29:28,880 --> 00:29:31,640 Speaker 2: in order to you know, decide whether or not you know, 660 00:29:31,680 --> 00:29:35,080 Speaker 2: you need to make changes from a personnel standpoint, And 661 00:29:35,160 --> 00:29:37,120 Speaker 2: he said, that's like, that's obviously you know, the the 662 00:29:37,160 --> 00:29:39,160 Speaker 2: balance or the difficult balance that you're trying to strike 663 00:29:39,200 --> 00:29:42,160 Speaker 2: in wigh and that you know it may not necessarily 664 00:29:42,200 --> 00:29:45,440 Speaker 2: be wholesale changes. Just going back to my comment about 665 00:29:45,480 --> 00:29:48,240 Speaker 2: somebody like Omar Space earlier, it could just mean it 666 00:29:48,240 --> 00:29:50,600 Speaker 2: could be as simple as somebody like getting more snaps 667 00:29:50,680 --> 00:29:53,600 Speaker 2: right than they have before, or being more involved in 668 00:29:53,640 --> 00:29:56,960 Speaker 2: some capacity, And so that's something we could potentially be 669 00:29:58,120 --> 00:29:59,960 Speaker 2: looking at to when it comes to whatever those person 670 00:30:00,240 --> 00:30:00,840 Speaker 2: changes now. 671 00:30:01,120 --> 00:30:04,160 Speaker 3: Also, and I'll add to this, they may add a package, right, 672 00:30:04,240 --> 00:30:06,440 Speaker 3: so maybe it's a certain package where he comes in. 673 00:30:06,960 --> 00:30:09,600 Speaker 3: And again, when you put those packages, it's for him 674 00:30:09,600 --> 00:30:12,680 Speaker 3: to showcase his abilities and what they're confident in. And 675 00:30:12,720 --> 00:30:14,640 Speaker 3: I think that's what our fans have to understand, Like 676 00:30:15,640 --> 00:30:18,040 Speaker 3: it's hard to put a player out there if you're 677 00:30:18,080 --> 00:30:20,320 Speaker 3: not confident that he could do everything. So when you 678 00:30:20,320 --> 00:30:21,960 Speaker 3: put a you don't want him to lose. Again, we 679 00:30:21,960 --> 00:30:23,600 Speaker 3: talk about confidence all the time. You don't want him 680 00:30:23,640 --> 00:30:25,800 Speaker 3: to lose that. So whatever he's great at, that's what 681 00:30:25,840 --> 00:30:27,840 Speaker 3: this package is going to kind of showcase for him. 682 00:30:28,080 --> 00:30:30,120 Speaker 3: If it's he's gonna play the run, well, guess what 683 00:30:30,400 --> 00:30:32,880 Speaker 3: in a rundown with a run formation, we're gonna put 684 00:30:32,920 --> 00:30:34,920 Speaker 3: you in. So you know your gap, your fitt and 685 00:30:34,920 --> 00:30:37,640 Speaker 3: you're gonna do your thing. And that's just kind of how. 686 00:30:37,280 --> 00:30:39,800 Speaker 1: It goes awesome. All right, guys, Well, I'm gonna expedite 687 00:30:39,880 --> 00:30:42,920 Speaker 1: us a bit here because we are crushing it on time. 688 00:30:43,400 --> 00:30:45,560 Speaker 1: Let's break down the Raiders. They sit it too and 689 00:30:45,720 --> 00:30:49,600 Speaker 1: four big news for them. DeVante Adams now gone out 690 00:30:49,640 --> 00:30:51,440 Speaker 1: of the mix, but somehow they also ended up with 691 00:30:51,520 --> 00:30:53,600 Speaker 1: Tom Brady as a co owner this week, so a 692 00:30:53,600 --> 00:30:56,400 Speaker 1: little bit of a mix up there. What are your 693 00:30:56,440 --> 00:30:59,600 Speaker 1: thoughts initially on that trade because he was already out 694 00:30:59,600 --> 00:31:02,120 Speaker 1: with a hamstring injury for the last three weeks. 695 00:31:02,240 --> 00:31:02,480 Speaker 2: Yeah. 696 00:31:02,720 --> 00:31:06,360 Speaker 3: I feel like relationships kind of run their course, and 697 00:31:06,400 --> 00:31:09,360 Speaker 3: I think that relationship ran its course. Davanta Adams was 698 00:31:09,920 --> 00:31:12,120 Speaker 3: he was a He was a neighbor of mine in 699 00:31:12,160 --> 00:31:14,960 Speaker 3: the Bay Area when he was with h He grew 700 00:31:15,040 --> 00:31:17,120 Speaker 3: up in Palo Alto, so he's a neighbor of mine. 701 00:31:17,160 --> 00:31:20,200 Speaker 3: His neighbor knew who his neighbor was, Derek Carr, So 702 00:31:20,640 --> 00:31:22,320 Speaker 3: he went to the Raiders to play with Derek Carr. 703 00:31:22,320 --> 00:31:24,520 Speaker 3: You trade Derek Carr away, that kind of That was 704 00:31:24,560 --> 00:31:26,360 Speaker 3: the whole situation there. So I just felt like that 705 00:31:26,400 --> 00:31:29,400 Speaker 3: relationship ran dry a little bit. Shout out to Tom Telesco, 706 00:31:29,440 --> 00:31:31,840 Speaker 3: who was mad enough to say, hey, listen, this isn't 707 00:31:31,840 --> 00:31:35,520 Speaker 3: gonna work. You're not happy. We're not happy. Hey, let's 708 00:31:35,560 --> 00:31:36,920 Speaker 3: send to you where you can be happy. We can 709 00:31:36,960 --> 00:31:41,400 Speaker 3: get something back in return. That's good business. Is it 710 00:31:41,400 --> 00:31:43,520 Speaker 3: good business for the team? I don't. I don't think 711 00:31:43,560 --> 00:31:45,240 Speaker 3: so at this point. They have a lot of injuries. 712 00:31:46,280 --> 00:31:47,600 Speaker 3: I know it was a trade. Tucker is going to 713 00:31:47,680 --> 00:31:49,440 Speaker 3: kind of be there. Their guy going forward at the 714 00:31:49,440 --> 00:31:52,560 Speaker 3: receiver position. Brock Bowers is a big weapon for him. 715 00:31:52,720 --> 00:31:55,480 Speaker 3: They're struggling run the football right now offensively, so this 716 00:31:55,560 --> 00:31:57,239 Speaker 3: is may again, this may be a game where you 717 00:31:57,280 --> 00:32:01,280 Speaker 3: can find some success and some traction offensively to help 718 00:32:01,320 --> 00:32:03,160 Speaker 3: you out. Obviously, with the quarterback change as well. 719 00:32:03,560 --> 00:32:06,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, well, and especially with Adams gone now, I mean 720 00:32:06,200 --> 00:32:10,920 Speaker 2: that even with the crazy amount of targets that brock 721 00:32:10,960 --> 00:32:13,120 Speaker 2: Bowers has already seen, there are going to be I 722 00:32:13,160 --> 00:32:15,160 Speaker 2: would imagine even more going this way down, and there's 723 00:32:15,200 --> 00:32:18,720 Speaker 2: going to be even more increased focused on stopping him. Especially. 724 00:32:18,920 --> 00:32:22,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, brock Bauers leads all tightands and targets receptions and 725 00:32:23,040 --> 00:32:26,480 Speaker 1: receiving yards. That's thirty four or thirty seven receptions in 726 00:32:26,520 --> 00:32:29,040 Speaker 1: three hundred and eighty four receiving yards. He's already looking 727 00:32:29,080 --> 00:32:30,800 Speaker 1: like he might have a Pro Bowl season. 728 00:32:30,960 --> 00:32:33,160 Speaker 3: Quick insight for people I coached him in high school. 729 00:32:33,520 --> 00:32:36,240 Speaker 3: He runs a four three forty like people he didn't run, 730 00:32:36,680 --> 00:32:38,760 Speaker 3: but at his size and his speed. In high school 731 00:32:38,760 --> 00:32:40,840 Speaker 3: he ran a four or five to one out of 732 00:32:40,880 --> 00:32:43,560 Speaker 3: like alignment stance. So he has the ability to run, 733 00:32:43,600 --> 00:32:45,840 Speaker 3: as we've seen him run past some guys as well. 734 00:32:45,920 --> 00:32:47,360 Speaker 3: So the Rams need to make sure that they take 735 00:32:47,440 --> 00:32:49,320 Speaker 3: him very serious because he is a big time player. 736 00:32:49,960 --> 00:32:52,560 Speaker 1: There's also another name that sticks out, as it always does, 737 00:32:52,680 --> 00:32:55,959 Speaker 1: Max Crosby. He's really good. He leads the Raiders right 738 00:32:56,000 --> 00:32:58,040 Speaker 1: now with five and a half sacks. How do you 739 00:32:58,360 --> 00:32:59,040 Speaker 1: manage him? 740 00:32:59,160 --> 00:32:59,640 Speaker 2: This week. 741 00:33:00,400 --> 00:33:04,200 Speaker 3: Run the football, run at him, utilize your play action pass, 742 00:33:04,640 --> 00:33:07,800 Speaker 3: and I think those tight splits will really affect him. 743 00:33:08,800 --> 00:33:12,320 Speaker 3: To me, Max Crosby is a different a different animal 744 00:33:12,680 --> 00:33:17,160 Speaker 3: offensive that you have to account for certain guys, like 745 00:33:17,200 --> 00:33:18,840 Speaker 3: let's say the Nick Bosa, He's gonna line up on 746 00:33:18,880 --> 00:33:20,920 Speaker 3: the same side, he's gonna line up over the left 747 00:33:20,920 --> 00:33:23,080 Speaker 3: tackle all the time. You know where he's gonna be. 748 00:33:23,920 --> 00:33:26,400 Speaker 3: Max Crosby's gonna line up all over the place. And 749 00:33:26,480 --> 00:33:28,160 Speaker 3: so to me, that's that's a little bit of a 750 00:33:28,160 --> 00:33:31,480 Speaker 3: concern because he tries to find what we call waldo, Right, 751 00:33:31,520 --> 00:33:33,200 Speaker 3: He's gonna find the guy that he could take advantage 752 00:33:33,200 --> 00:33:35,040 Speaker 3: of as much as possible, and then try to get 753 00:33:35,040 --> 00:33:37,400 Speaker 3: as many reps on him in pass the situations as possible. 754 00:33:38,000 --> 00:33:40,280 Speaker 3: If you're the Rams, how do you neutralize that. You 755 00:33:40,320 --> 00:33:41,920 Speaker 3: get a good running game going, You stay ahead of 756 00:33:41,960 --> 00:33:44,040 Speaker 3: the chains, like Stu said, and you find a way 757 00:33:44,080 --> 00:33:46,000 Speaker 3: to play action pass and take shots and you force 758 00:33:46,080 --> 00:33:48,840 Speaker 3: him to go through multiple bodies play after play after play. 759 00:33:49,040 --> 00:33:51,360 Speaker 2: And I would add too, from a protection standpoint, maybe 760 00:33:51,440 --> 00:33:54,160 Speaker 2: asking the tight ends and running backs to chip and 761 00:33:54,160 --> 00:33:55,520 Speaker 2: help out the tackles a little bit too. 762 00:33:55,560 --> 00:34:00,000 Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, again, Max is a He has a skill set, 763 00:34:00,040 --> 00:34:02,040 Speaker 3: don't get me wrong, but his number one skill set 764 00:34:02,080 --> 00:34:04,960 Speaker 3: is effort. He does not stop and that's where he 765 00:34:05,000 --> 00:34:07,440 Speaker 3: wears guys down. And you notice he'll get two or 766 00:34:07,440 --> 00:34:09,839 Speaker 3: three sacks in like the third fourth quarter because he's 767 00:34:09,880 --> 00:34:13,040 Speaker 3: worn down the tackle. So he has a good skill set, 768 00:34:13,040 --> 00:34:15,320 Speaker 3: but his number one attribute is that he's an effort 769 00:34:15,360 --> 00:34:17,600 Speaker 3: guy all the time. He's one hundred percent all the time. 770 00:34:17,680 --> 00:34:20,200 Speaker 3: And so that's what scares me more than anything. 771 00:34:20,320 --> 00:34:21,719 Speaker 1: I love it. We're all on the same page. You 772 00:34:21,719 --> 00:34:24,319 Speaker 1: guys just checked off our first key to victory, which 773 00:34:24,400 --> 00:34:26,640 Speaker 1: is to run the football. Let's go to our second 774 00:34:26,719 --> 00:34:29,360 Speaker 1: key to victory for this matchup with the Las Vegas 775 00:34:29,480 --> 00:34:34,120 Speaker 1: Raiders pressuring Aid and O'Connell just his second start, he 776 00:34:34,200 --> 00:34:37,880 Speaker 1: is replacing Gardner Minshew's seven interceptions between the two of 777 00:34:37,920 --> 00:34:42,919 Speaker 1: them combined, which leads the NFL. What does this team 778 00:34:43,000 --> 00:34:44,800 Speaker 1: have to do to try and get him out of rhythm. 779 00:34:45,239 --> 00:34:47,560 Speaker 3: Well, I just remember them winning a game against the 780 00:34:47,600 --> 00:34:49,080 Speaker 3: Chiefs where he I don't think he threw a pass 781 00:34:49,080 --> 00:34:51,600 Speaker 3: in the last like three quarters of the game. So 782 00:34:51,640 --> 00:34:55,000 Speaker 3: to me, in order to if you want to win 783 00:34:55,040 --> 00:34:57,560 Speaker 3: this game, you can't allow them to have success running 784 00:34:57,520 --> 00:35:00,279 Speaker 3: the football, because they will be stubborn enough just to 785 00:35:00,320 --> 00:35:02,440 Speaker 3: they'll just run it if they have to, because they 786 00:35:02,480 --> 00:35:04,440 Speaker 3: know that they're they're limited or you know, they have 787 00:35:04,480 --> 00:35:06,759 Speaker 3: an issue at the quarterback position. So if you can 788 00:35:06,760 --> 00:35:09,239 Speaker 3: stop the run, I would force Aid and O'Connell to 789 00:35:09,280 --> 00:35:11,880 Speaker 3: beat me. You have to beat me, right, And that's 790 00:35:11,920 --> 00:35:14,479 Speaker 3: that's just kind of my mindset of it. You're gonna 791 00:35:14,480 --> 00:35:16,239 Speaker 3: have to beat me without throwing it to bron Bauers too, 792 00:35:16,280 --> 00:35:18,160 Speaker 3: Like that's like we're gonna double team him and then 793 00:35:18,200 --> 00:35:20,719 Speaker 3: you gotta win. Throw it to everybody else, we don't care. 794 00:35:20,840 --> 00:35:23,759 Speaker 3: And so stopping the run, and then when you do 795 00:35:23,800 --> 00:35:27,120 Speaker 3: get pressure on him, he will take his eyes as 796 00:35:27,120 --> 00:35:30,319 Speaker 3: he starts to feel pressure, he'll take his eyes off 797 00:35:30,320 --> 00:35:35,160 Speaker 3: the receivers downfield. So again, knowing, knowing the Raiders being 798 00:35:35,200 --> 00:35:38,359 Speaker 3: in that building a long time ago, Uh, they're gonna 799 00:35:38,360 --> 00:35:39,920 Speaker 3: try to protect him much they can. They're gonna try 800 00:35:39,920 --> 00:35:40,799 Speaker 3: to run the football this week. 801 00:35:40,880 --> 00:35:43,040 Speaker 2: It'd be a good week to finish those or convert 802 00:35:43,040 --> 00:35:45,040 Speaker 2: those pressures into tackles for lost and sacks. 803 00:35:45,120 --> 00:35:48,279 Speaker 1: Yeah, I love it. Last and finals too. I'm coming 804 00:35:48,280 --> 00:35:51,560 Speaker 1: to you next. We have to protect QB one Matthew Stafford. 805 00:35:51,560 --> 00:35:55,640 Speaker 1: He's given up sixteen sacks this season. The offensive line 806 00:35:55,680 --> 00:35:59,000 Speaker 1: has probably faced more health issues than we Well, actually 807 00:35:59,000 --> 00:36:01,040 Speaker 1: there was one one of our season that we faced 808 00:36:01,080 --> 00:36:04,080 Speaker 1: this exact same situation. But is there a bright side 809 00:36:04,360 --> 00:36:06,920 Speaker 1: to this in terms of a key to victory for 810 00:36:06,960 --> 00:36:07,400 Speaker 1: this week? 811 00:36:08,880 --> 00:36:11,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it's gonna be good experience going against 812 00:36:11,440 --> 00:36:14,400 Speaker 2: a past rusher like Max Crosby, like we talked about earlier, 813 00:36:15,160 --> 00:36:17,879 Speaker 2: and then from a silver lying standpoint, I mean, could 814 00:36:17,920 --> 00:36:20,720 Speaker 2: potentially get Joe Nobum back. He did return to practice 815 00:36:20,760 --> 00:36:24,680 Speaker 2: this week. Again, his stats for Sunday still to be determined, 816 00:36:24,719 --> 00:36:28,640 Speaker 2: but certainly him being back with would help quite a 817 00:36:28,640 --> 00:36:32,480 Speaker 2: bit with not only protect protection against Crosby, but just 818 00:36:32,480 --> 00:36:34,720 Speaker 2: overall keeping QB one on his feet. 819 00:36:34,800 --> 00:36:35,880 Speaker 3: Is he heading in the right direction? 820 00:36:36,040 --> 00:36:40,319 Speaker 2: Is he those those room vays words? I don't know. 821 00:36:40,400 --> 00:36:42,520 Speaker 2: I mean, he was, he was limited. He was limited 822 00:36:42,520 --> 00:36:45,480 Speaker 2: on on Wednesday. We'll see how how he looks today. 823 00:36:46,200 --> 00:36:48,600 Speaker 1: Awesome, All right, guys, Well this has been an extended 824 00:36:48,640 --> 00:36:51,279 Speaker 1: cut of between the Arnes only because Jury isn't here. 825 00:36:51,320 --> 00:36:55,840 Speaker 1: Happy birthday Jury, of course, man, we really appreciate it. 826 00:36:56,040 --> 00:36:56,160 Speaker 2: Uh. 827 00:36:56,640 --> 00:36:59,920 Speaker 1: I'll also say this Sean McVay said the story is 828 00:37:00,120 --> 00:37:03,040 Speaker 1: not written after five games, so Rams fans, I think 829 00:37:03,080 --> 00:37:07,239 Speaker 1: it's time for a revision like last season. This is 830 00:37:07,280 --> 00:37:10,560 Speaker 1: a wrap on our Week seven edition of Between the Horns, 831 00:37:10,560 --> 00:37:13,560 Speaker 1: presented by your Southern California Toyota Dealers. We can't wait 832 00:37:13,600 --> 00:37:24,200 Speaker 1: to see you in Sofa Stadium come Sunday.