Speaker 1: Hello everybody, and welcome to this Thursday edition. Oh trend
Speaker 1: Z says Instagram likes are micro cheating. When I'm Miles
Speaker 1: Gray and I'm here joined by my guest co.
Speaker 2: Host Chris crofton Illo pleasure to be here.
Speaker 3: Look this first story, I don't know.
Speaker 1: It sounds like younger people are now trying to describe
Speaker 1: liking a micro cheating. Now. This is an intern as
Speaker 1: the Washington Post describes, an Internet era term for small
Speaker 1: act of betrayal.
Speaker 3: Now, this is something to do with something like, you know,
Speaker 3: maybe liking a bikini photo of someone else. Is it harmful?
Speaker 3: Is it harmless? Who knows?
Speaker 1: But I think because we're all in this new era
Speaker 1: where you can interact so much digitally, we have a
Speaker 1: new way of I guess we got a new term now,
Speaker 1: micro cheating, which is.
Speaker 2: Oh, okay. This is interesting, Miles, because some times, you know,
Speaker 2: when you can see your friend's likes, like on Instagram,
Speaker 2: you know what I mean, and you suspect some you
Speaker 2: meet somebody and like you meet their husband and you
Speaker 2: think he seems like a creep, and then you are
Speaker 2: also being a creep. But you're single, so it's okay.
Speaker 2: So you're like so you're like, like me, like, I'm single,
Speaker 2: So I'm like looking at like some bikini lady has
Speaker 2: like one hundred billion followers, you know, right, and then
Speaker 2: you see the sad fuckers that put a like on
Speaker 2: their shit, like hoping that she will pick.
Speaker 3: Their like to like be like I want to have
Speaker 3: sex with you or whatever.
Speaker 2: They you'll see.
Speaker 3: Some guy you're like, oh, people will like.
Speaker 2: This, and it's like a billion likes, and then it
Speaker 2: says people you know, and it shows that dude. It's
Speaker 2: like that dude, and it's like those dudes are so
Speaker 2: horny and desperate, and so I think I don't know,
Speaker 2: I don't know if it's cheating, but I think it's
Speaker 2: an indicator. I think if you see somebody putting their
Speaker 2: like on some.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's first, especially.
Speaker 2: When they're sixty thousand likes and you picture this guy
Speaker 2: was a family being, like I like this.
Speaker 1: I Also I see people though, too, like scroll Instagram
Speaker 1: and they like it. I know, people just like everything
Speaker 1: like on the thing, which is so too yeah yeah,
Speaker 1: and not even defending them. Like I remember catching a
Speaker 1: frame like are you just liking every photo you see?
Speaker 1: It's like, yeah, man, my friends and stuff it's like.
Speaker 2: Living on like honey, that's why. That's why I thought,
Speaker 2: you know, that's why you think you have a career,
Speaker 2: and then you find out you don't when you go
Speaker 2: on a tour, You're like, fuck this many likes, I'm
Speaker 2: gonna book fucking Carnegie.
Speaker 1: Hall, I'm too fucking Stintyre, or I just don't like.
Speaker 1: I just never thought of like the feedback loop of
Speaker 1: like reward of like or whatever. Anyway, uh So, micro cheaters, beware,
Speaker 1: there is a new term for you liking thirst trap
Speaker 1: pictures or you know, leaving comments with the most part
Speaker 1: et cetera. Next thing, Supreme Court one of your favorite topics, Chris,
Speaker 1: Uh Well, So as it stands, I know they shot
Speaker 1: down on an EPA measure that would have kept the
Speaker 1: air clean. I haven't fully dove into what that was,
Speaker 1: but the main things that we saw as they wrap
Speaker 1: up their last session, they are allowing emergency abortions in Idaho.
Speaker 1: But the only reason is they said they're not actually
Speaker 1: going to rule on the merits quite yet, So that's
Speaker 1: not We're not fully out of the water with that
Speaker 1: case where you know, they were saying that someone has
Speaker 1: to be on the brink of death in that state
Speaker 1: before an emergency abortion could be performed. But another thing
Speaker 1: they also were seemingly gave the green light to our bribes.
Speaker 1: There was a yeah, local mayor who basically bought a
Speaker 1: bunch of trash trucks for about a million dollars, and
Speaker 1: then that company gave him a nice little thirteen thousand
Speaker 1: dollars donation after the fact. People are like, that seems
Speaker 1: like a tip for tet interaction there. He said, it
Speaker 1: was a gratuity, much in the same way you know
Speaker 1: that people are given plaques for their service from interest
Speaker 1: groups and things like that. Well, Kavanaugh, writing for the
Speaker 1: Conservative majority, said that the question in the case was,
Speaker 1: quote whether federal law makes it a crime for date
Speaker 1: and local officials to accept such gratuities after the fact.
Speaker 1: He wrote, the answer is no. So yeah, I've been
Speaker 1: talking about it.
Speaker 2: If you follow my social media, I tend to not you,
Speaker 2: but just in general, you know, I talk about I
Speaker 2: mean the Supreme Court at this point, to report on
Speaker 2: the Supreme Court as if it's like a legitimate organization,
Speaker 2: is I mean, if they put it, if they put
Speaker 2: it like a little asterisk on like this is COVID
Speaker 2: misinformation and they should always have an asterisk on every
Speaker 2: Supreme Court decision from now on that this court is illegitimate,
Speaker 2: because that's not like up for debate, it's it's been proven.
Speaker 2: This is a proven fact that we have a bunch
Speaker 2: of corrupted justices that have no right making these decisions.
Speaker 2: And so it's like very difficult for our sort of
Speaker 2: both sides journalism or just even like norms, like the
Speaker 2: idea that the Supreme Court is compromised as not something
Speaker 2: that like the New York Times or the Washington Post
Speaker 2: are prepared to deal with because there are certain things
Speaker 2: that they expect to be givens that the Supreme Court's
Speaker 2: not corrupted.
Speaker 3: So they don't kind of discuss it, well.
Speaker 1: They do it in this sense where they bring up
Speaker 1: how send it like someone else is concerned with it,
Speaker 1: rather than like as a statement of fact, you're like,
Speaker 1: this is like such a politicized body.
Speaker 2: Now it should be the headline every day they make
Speaker 2: the decisions for this whole fucking country.
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's no sense of objectivity.
Speaker 1: They're not just you know, like trying to make decisions
Speaker 1: based on the law as they see it. Like, especially
Speaker 1: when you see things with Samuel Alito and his wife
Speaker 1: or Clarence Thomas or just all the conservative justices who
Speaker 1: have all these question marks and murky shit behind them,
Speaker 1: and you're like, yeah, they were all put in there
Speaker 1: by the Federalist Society and they're here to do the
Speaker 1: bidding of the conservative movement.
Speaker 3: And yeah, it should be the top story.
Speaker 2: That's the thing is like there's a couple top stories
Speaker 2: that should be every day, and then everything else should
Speaker 2: be underneath because they all follow from that. That's like
Speaker 2: Citizens United and and and you know, declining tax rates
Speaker 2: for the wealthy and the Supreme Court being corrupted as
Speaker 2: a result of those two aforementioned things, and then everything
Speaker 2: else should be under that. And that's why everybody feels
Speaker 2: crazy because they've.
Speaker 3: Read those things.
Speaker 1: Yeah, those things explain so many of the things, even
Speaker 1: like with Jamal Bowman losing his primary race, I mean,
Speaker 1: I mean that is millions of dollars all Citizens United.
Speaker 2: That's such a disaster, and so just fucking the fact
Speaker 2: that Hillary Clinton is mixed up in that God damn
Speaker 2: like just that Centrists are fascists and we need to
Speaker 2: get our heads around that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, because insanity, the status quo is violent, it's death
Speaker 1: for people. It's not it's not something we need to
Speaker 1: be embracing, we need to be moving away from.
Speaker 2: But again, that's why both sides doesn't. Both sides only
Speaker 2: works if both sides are like you know, you know,
Speaker 2: years and years ago, when both sides were sort of
Speaker 2: working toward once I was working toward. That doesn't matter
Speaker 2: that everybody knows this.
Speaker 1: We're like, man, I'm just about to explaining cluck.
Speaker 3: We have to cut all the shit out, all right,
Speaker 3: but I get the frustration.
Speaker 1: We're gonna take a quick break and we will be
Speaker 1: right back, and we're back.
Speaker 3: Kevin Costner has.
Speaker 1: A new movie coming out, and it sounds like it's
Speaker 1: like this Western epic. It's called Horizon in American Saga
Speaker 1: Chapter one. It cost one hundred million dollars to make,
Speaker 1: a Costner grew in his own money. Apparently right now,
Speaker 1: it's only projected to make between ten and twelve.
Speaker 3: Million dollars at the box office.
Speaker 1: Now we've known that these projections, we've been like, they've
Speaker 1: been wrong before. But it's clear here that the the
Speaker 1: sort of strategy that the studio is going for is
Speaker 1: like they're trying to do like a sound like they're
Speaker 1: trying to mimic like what the Sound of Freedom did
Speaker 1: last year, like from Middle America. They wanted to come
Speaker 1: out fourth of July, like just kind of get in there,
Speaker 1: get people out there, into the into the theaters.
Speaker 3: And because they saw that this.
Speaker 1: Like indie film that was just a you know, human
Speaker 1: trafficking topic movie.
Speaker 2: That's how fast Ship moves. I forgot that movie existed.
Speaker 3: Yeah, became one of the biggest fucking like it made a.
Speaker 1: Ton of money during the summer, although a lot of
Speaker 1: people were just buying the tickets and you know, propping
Speaker 1: up those numbers. But the movie might be easier to
Speaker 1: track if it actually was a right wing polemic like
Speaker 1: Sound of Freedom.
Speaker 3: Because the thing is with Kevin Costner, it's like what.
Speaker 1: We don't really even know where he is politically, He's
Speaker 1: quite almost he's all over the place. He's like a
Speaker 1: red state coded regular Joe. But his work and like
Speaker 1: what he says out cloud, yeah, like going, it's.
Speaker 2: So true, Kevin Costner is not just a person. He
Speaker 2: is like a something something something something.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're like you know, like with even like you know,
Speaker 1: with this film, people are even trying to figure out,
Speaker 1: like what you guys even saying about like colonialism.
Speaker 2: He's a white supremacist avatar. He's the hot face of
Speaker 2: he could be a Republican governor. It's the same old fucking.
Speaker 1: Oh he would easily like yeah, just from the shit
Speaker 1: he did in the eighties and nineties when people would
Speaker 1: fucking eat his fucking just.
Speaker 2: The same, like the same thing is like this just
Speaker 2: sort of idea that if you look like you could
Speaker 2: fit on Mount rushmore than you can be the governor
Speaker 2: of our state and then everything will be all right.
Speaker 2: And if we just had Kevin cost I mean, he
Speaker 2: could probably fucking beat Trump.
Speaker 1: You know what I mean, Like, yeah, he's still look,
Speaker 1: he's himself was a Republican in the eighties who's friends
Speaker 1: with Reagan, but then he donated to al Gore and Obama.
Speaker 1: In twenty twenty two, he showed up wearing a T
Speaker 1: shirt with the phrase I'm for Liz Cheney, and you're like, oh,
Speaker 1: because she was like she was like the first Republican
Speaker 1: to be like yeah, vehemently opposed it, frum outwardly.
Speaker 2: He's actually a crusader for freedom.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah. The Emperor Balpatine's daughter is so cool.
Speaker 1: We love her, We love her, but even like, look
Speaker 1: at like Field of Dreams, right, like, it's about a
Speaker 1: farmer in Iowa who loves baseball, but like the opening
Speaker 1: scene is like like they're at a PTA meeting where
Speaker 1: him and his wife are opposing book bands, and then
Speaker 1: the villain is his yuppie brother in law who's only
Speaker 1: like about money rather than like the wonders of like
Speaker 1: our universe.
Speaker 3: If these ghosts are playing baseball and feel.
Speaker 2: To us needing to do a podcast where I watch movies. Yeah,
Speaker 2: me and you doing it because I've never seen Field Dreams.
Speaker 1: But anyway, but then it ends where like Kevin Costner
Speaker 1: keeps his farm because he's like, he's like monetizes the
Speaker 1: fact that these like ancient baseball ghosts are playing baseball
Speaker 1: in this field.
Speaker 3: And then so like the moral of the story ends
Speaker 3: up being like follow your dreams, man, and think outside
Speaker 3: the box.
Speaker 1: You know, as long as you know how to fucking
Speaker 1: commodify that shit and and generate revenue off of it.
Speaker 3: Okay, you're like, what is this?
Speaker 2: What this makes me think of? It makes me think
Speaker 2: of fucking the Bike Riders. I saw The Bike Riders,
Speaker 2: that movie that's out now, you know, sure, and it
Speaker 2: was a fun movie.
Speaker 3: I enjoyed it.
Speaker 2: A female actor who runs it, or's the main character. Basically,
Speaker 2: she's great in it. But it's sort of a make
Speaker 2: America great again kind of message. It's another one of
Speaker 2: these like white you know, biker gangs were better and
Speaker 2: less violent when they were all white and it was
Speaker 2: the fifties, and it's it's like this hispanic guy shows
Speaker 2: up and takes over the biker gang, and it's like
Speaker 2: about the decline of biker gangs. I mean, it's like, really,
Speaker 2: I can't it's not supposed to be and I guess
Speaker 2: the real truth of this is supposed to be based
Speaker 2: on a true story and maybe the guy was hispanic
Speaker 2: who took over the club, but it's ends up being
Speaker 2: fee you can't. I don't know how you can be
Speaker 2: so klutzy to make a movie like that and not
Speaker 2: see what you're what you're going to, how it's gonna
Speaker 2: be perceived. It took me out of the movie. It
Speaker 2: made me not enjoy the movie because I was like,
Speaker 2: this is actually like kind of I get like, maybe
Speaker 2: based on a true story, but it ends up being
Speaker 2: another one of these things where it's like, don't we
Speaker 2: wish like, man, we're in charge again. I mean, it's
Speaker 2: really what it is, and it's all you know. And
Speaker 2: that's what Kevin Costner represents. He represents the fetishization I
Speaker 2: cannot say fetishization, and I love to say it. The
Speaker 2: fetishization of white daddies, of white American fetishization of dudes
Speaker 2: with big fucking heads. And I want to know, the
Speaker 2: main thing I want to know about fucking Kevin Costner
Speaker 2: is justice, justice. What the fuck is on top of
Speaker 2: his head? And why has it been that same fuzzy
Speaker 2: wuzzy wispy shit since.
Speaker 3: All the way back? Like what is that? Like?
Speaker 2: Did he for semi ball like realistic looking somewhat lost hair?
Speaker 3: Yeah? Was his hair?
Speaker 2: I want to know, Like I wish I could get
Speaker 2: rich and get some hair, but yeah, Kevin Costner, Man,
Speaker 2: Kevin Costner needs to fucking stop making cowboy movies because
Speaker 2: he doesn't understand that he is a whether he knows
Speaker 2: it or not, he's the right wing here, like.
Speaker 3: He has all these like other like water World. Know,
Speaker 3: you probably didn't even see water World, you know.
Speaker 1: Water World is like do you know what it's about?
Speaker 1: Baguely like the polar Ice caps melt and it's all water. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's like totally about climate change. They never mentioned climate
Speaker 1: change once in that film. Just about the politics of
Speaker 1: his film. Then in two thousand and eight, Chris just
Speaker 1: to put bringing down memory lane, I know you were
Speaker 1: loving the movies and there was a film called Swing
Speaker 1: Vote that he was in that's literally about like the
Speaker 1: election coming down to this one guy and what his vote,
Speaker 1: like what direction the country is gonna go in?
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, money, It's.
Speaker 1: Just it's like off the walls. But like again, a
Speaker 1: lot of people are like, what's the message here, because like
Speaker 1: we were, we were grappling with the fucking Iraq war
Speaker 1: and shit, and it's like nothing's like, bro, we're not
Speaker 1: saying anything about fucking anything. And he even said like himself,
Speaker 1: he's like the good thing about this is like there
Speaker 1: isn't a message and you're like, oh okay. So it'll
Speaker 1: be interesting to see what happens with his new film
Speaker 1: that's about the West but has no take at all.
Speaker 1: And I don't know, maybe if you really leaned into
Speaker 1: like the right wing shit, maybe you could get that
Speaker 1: sounder freedom bump.
Speaker 3: But we will see. Time will only tell.
Speaker 2: Well, that's that's a lazy thing to say. Everything's political
Speaker 2: right now, whether it wants to be or not. I mean,
Speaker 2: that's the thing. It's like, it's like, you can make
Speaker 2: a statement.
Speaker 3: You're making a statement.
Speaker 2: Yeah you can, it's not.
Speaker 3: It's not.
Speaker 2: I understand. There was when things are stable, there's a
Speaker 2: there's a chance you could be doing something apolitical. But
Speaker 2: now everything's political because we're under attack from the inside.
Speaker 2: So it's not. I mean, that's not and that's not
Speaker 2: an overstatement. So it's like I get you know, he
Speaker 2: has to understand, like whether or not he knows it,
Speaker 2: he's a white icon and that means something, whether he
Speaker 2: doesn't want it to. And then to make a cowboy movie,
Speaker 2: I mean, come on, he's making a statement whether he
Speaker 2: unless he's an idiot, and he's definitely not an idiot,
Speaker 2: or he wouldn't be he wouldn't have such a nice
Speaker 2: hair system.
Speaker 3: Yeah, hair system.
Speaker 2: Seriously, I'm fascinated by that, tought Chris.
Speaker 3: I know you're on the internet. Have you saw you've
Speaker 3: seen the trend about raw dot ugging a flight? I
Speaker 3: have not seen what's that r so broad.
Speaker 1: Dogging a flight is when people go on a flight
Speaker 1: of an airplane flight with in the entire time with
Speaker 1: zero entertainment, like not not watching.
Speaker 3: Anything, not listening to anything, not.
Speaker 1: Reading, just fucking turning your brain off, eyes straight ahead.
Speaker 1: Some people even brag they don't go to the bathroom
Speaker 1: or even drink water the whole time. They're like, I
Speaker 1: just sit there and I'm zoned out, straight ahead. Have
Speaker 1: you ever seen someone do this on a plane?
Speaker 2: Uh?
Speaker 3: Really, I don't think so.
Speaker 2: I don't. I fall asleep when I'm on.
Speaker 3: The plane, exactly, I know.
Speaker 1: And like you're like mostly in your own world, where well,
Speaker 1: this is like a whole thing people were talking about
Speaker 1: the Internet and now an on deadline, it looks like
Speaker 1: they're a twenty four maybe making a movie about this.
Speaker 1: It's called the Entertainment System Is Down, and this is
Speaker 1: the guy who directed A Triangle of Sadness, it says.
Speaker 1: Described as a social satire, the movie takes place on
Speaker 1: a super long haul flight think more than twenty hours.
Speaker 1: While passengers would usually have access to digital entertainment, the
Speaker 1: protagonists of the movie find themselves in a situation in
Speaker 1: which the entertainment system is in fact down, and they are,
Speaker 1: as Ustlin put it in an early interview, quote doomed
Speaker 1: to deal with their boredom.
Speaker 3: So, I mean, I think that doesn't.
Speaker 2: Sound like a good movie. I'll tell you that. I
Speaker 2: don't know what I said about that, except that sounds
Speaker 2: like a horrible movie and it sounds like A twenty
Speaker 2: four has been infiltrated by morons. I mean, that's not
Speaker 2: a good movie.
Speaker 3: I saw.
Speaker 1: That's a common movie unless it's like, unless it's a
Speaker 1: commentary on the fact that like people are just unable
Speaker 1: to even be in the stillness, because I think that
Speaker 1: is a thing.
Speaker 2: Like they make it deeper than like just being like,
Speaker 2: you know, there must be a deeper Hopefully they're going
Speaker 2: to do like that. You know what that means that
Speaker 2: you can't sit through some I mean, yeah, yeah, I'm
Speaker 2: interested in I'm not interested. Also, everybody knows this. I
Speaker 2: don't care about it. Being example, everyone knows that they're
Speaker 2: over entertained and can't be by themselves. I don't need
Speaker 2: a twenty four to like illustrate it. Yeah, like, okay,
Speaker 2: you know, I mean, oh, you know, like I.
Speaker 3: Mean a twenty four.
Speaker 1: They're not I mean, they have a decent batting average,
Speaker 1: so I'm sure they know what they're coming from.
Speaker 3: And I was mad about iron Claw.
Speaker 2: I just thought iron Claw.
Speaker 1: I know you should have been cast. I know you
Speaker 1: were talking, you were salty about that. You messed up
Speaker 1: that audition.
Speaker 2: They didn't even ask me or anything.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I know they didn't.
Speaker 2: Auditions, Man, that are so ridiculous. I'm surprised I didn't
Speaker 2: get that. That's why I stopped doing auditions. But anyway,
Speaker 2: they send you crazy. I'm like, I'm not gonna what
Speaker 2: Vernon Presley, Elvis's father.
Speaker 3: Wow, I did that.
Speaker 2: I have the video. I should send you the video
Speaker 2: audition for Elvis's dad.
Speaker 3: Oh my god, we're gonna.
Speaker 1: Video where we break down some of your self tape auditions. Anyway,
Speaker 1: that's the most exciting thing I've ever heard going into
Speaker 1: this weekend.
Speaker 3: So I appreciate you putting that into my brain.
Speaker 2: I'll send you a couple. I'll send you a couple
Speaker 2: of these things. They're they're really funny.
Speaker 3: I mean, it's really funny.
Speaker 1: Next time around, we gotta I want to watch them
Speaker 1: with you, Okay, I want to have that experience.
Speaker 2: I've got a bunch of them I didn't get. I
Speaker 2: didn't get a single part.
Speaker 3: Zegang stay tuned.
Speaker 1: When we do dive into the crofton audition chronicles in
Speaker 1: an upcoming episode.
Speaker 3: We promise you that is coming.
Speaker 1: Chris, thank you so much for joining me on the
Speaker 1: strending episode.
Speaker 2: So much fun.
Speaker 3: Guess what we're going to be back tomorrow.
Speaker 1: Uh Jack is on a wonderful trip away rejuvenating, recharging
Speaker 1: his batteries.
Speaker 3: Uh so you know you're stuck with the substitute teacher
Speaker 3: for a little bit, but we're gonna have a little fun.
Speaker 3: We'll see you tomorrow.
Speaker 1: Like we say, take care of yourselves, take care of
Speaker 1: each other, get the vaccine. Uh you know, don't do
Speaker 1: nothing about white supremacy, and we will see you tomorrow.
Speaker 3: Bye, Thank y'all.