1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:06,760 Speaker 1: Hello everybody, and welcome to this Thursday edition. Oh trend 2 00:00:06,920 --> 00:00:12,560 Speaker 1: Z says Instagram likes are micro cheating. When I'm Miles 3 00:00:12,560 --> 00:00:14,640 Speaker 1: Gray and I'm here joined by my guest co. 4 00:00:14,640 --> 00:00:18,920 Speaker 2: Host Chris crofton Illo pleasure to be here. 5 00:00:20,480 --> 00:00:23,080 Speaker 3: Look this first story, I don't know. 6 00:00:23,920 --> 00:00:27,480 Speaker 1: It sounds like younger people are now trying to describe 7 00:00:28,000 --> 00:00:31,120 Speaker 1: liking a micro cheating. Now. This is an intern as 8 00:00:31,120 --> 00:00:34,400 Speaker 1: the Washington Post describes, an Internet era term for small 9 00:00:34,520 --> 00:00:35,480 Speaker 1: act of betrayal. 10 00:00:36,520 --> 00:00:38,760 Speaker 3: Now, this is something to do with something like, you know, 11 00:00:39,000 --> 00:00:45,120 Speaker 3: maybe liking a bikini photo of someone else. Is it harmful? 12 00:00:45,440 --> 00:00:47,280 Speaker 3: Is it harmless? Who knows? 13 00:00:47,920 --> 00:00:50,160 Speaker 1: But I think because we're all in this new era 14 00:00:50,240 --> 00:00:53,000 Speaker 1: where you can interact so much digitally, we have a 15 00:00:53,040 --> 00:00:54,840 Speaker 1: new way of I guess we got a new term now, 16 00:00:54,960 --> 00:00:56,240 Speaker 1: micro cheating, which is. 17 00:00:56,560 --> 00:01:00,480 Speaker 2: Oh, okay. This is interesting, Miles, because some times, you know, 18 00:01:00,520 --> 00:01:04,480 Speaker 2: when you can see your friend's likes, like on Instagram, 19 00:01:04,520 --> 00:01:07,720 Speaker 2: you know what I mean, and you suspect some you 20 00:01:07,760 --> 00:01:10,760 Speaker 2: meet somebody and like you meet their husband and you 21 00:01:10,800 --> 00:01:13,080 Speaker 2: think he seems like a creep, and then you are 22 00:01:13,680 --> 00:01:15,920 Speaker 2: also being a creep. But you're single, so it's okay. 23 00:01:16,400 --> 00:01:19,119 Speaker 2: So you're like so you're like, like me, like, I'm single, 24 00:01:19,319 --> 00:01:21,880 Speaker 2: So I'm like looking at like some bikini lady has 25 00:01:21,920 --> 00:01:25,160 Speaker 2: like one hundred billion followers, you know, right, and then 26 00:01:25,200 --> 00:01:27,240 Speaker 2: you see the sad fuckers that put a like on 27 00:01:27,319 --> 00:01:29,560 Speaker 2: their shit, like hoping that she will pick. 28 00:01:29,400 --> 00:01:31,040 Speaker 3: Their like to like be like I want to have 29 00:01:31,080 --> 00:01:32,080 Speaker 3: sex with you or whatever. 30 00:01:32,480 --> 00:01:34,720 Speaker 2: They you'll see. 31 00:01:34,440 --> 00:01:37,399 Speaker 3: Some guy you're like, oh, people will like. 32 00:01:37,400 --> 00:01:39,319 Speaker 2: This, and it's like a billion likes, and then it 33 00:01:39,319 --> 00:01:42,720 Speaker 2: says people you know, and it shows that dude. It's 34 00:01:42,760 --> 00:01:45,960 Speaker 2: like that dude, and it's like those dudes are so 35 00:01:46,240 --> 00:01:49,320 Speaker 2: horny and desperate, and so I think I don't know, 36 00:01:49,360 --> 00:01:50,840 Speaker 2: I don't know if it's cheating, but I think it's 37 00:01:50,840 --> 00:01:53,560 Speaker 2: an indicator. I think if you see somebody putting their 38 00:01:53,800 --> 00:01:54,440 Speaker 2: like on some. 39 00:01:55,160 --> 00:01:57,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's first, especially. 40 00:01:56,720 --> 00:01:59,600 Speaker 2: When they're sixty thousand likes and you picture this guy 41 00:01:59,760 --> 00:02:01,560 Speaker 2: was a family being, like I like this. 42 00:02:01,880 --> 00:02:04,680 Speaker 1: I Also I see people though, too, like scroll Instagram 43 00:02:04,720 --> 00:02:06,640 Speaker 1: and they like it. I know, people just like everything 44 00:02:07,040 --> 00:02:10,280 Speaker 1: like on the thing, which is so too yeah yeah, 45 00:02:10,280 --> 00:02:12,400 Speaker 1: and not even defending them. Like I remember catching a 46 00:02:12,440 --> 00:02:14,480 Speaker 1: frame like are you just liking every photo you see? 47 00:02:14,480 --> 00:02:16,520 Speaker 1: It's like, yeah, man, my friends and stuff it's like. 48 00:02:16,520 --> 00:02:19,560 Speaker 2: Living on like honey, that's why. That's why I thought, 49 00:02:19,639 --> 00:02:21,160 Speaker 2: you know, that's why you think you have a career, 50 00:02:21,200 --> 00:02:22,600 Speaker 2: and then you find out you don't when you go 51 00:02:22,639 --> 00:02:25,120 Speaker 2: on a tour, You're like, fuck this many likes, I'm 52 00:02:25,120 --> 00:02:26,800 Speaker 2: gonna book fucking Carnegie. 53 00:02:26,320 --> 00:02:29,720 Speaker 1: Hall, I'm too fucking Stintyre, or I just don't like. 54 00:02:29,800 --> 00:02:32,160 Speaker 1: I just never thought of like the feedback loop of 55 00:02:32,200 --> 00:02:36,600 Speaker 1: like reward of like or whatever. Anyway, uh So, micro cheaters, beware, 56 00:02:36,639 --> 00:02:38,919 Speaker 1: there is a new term for you liking thirst trap 57 00:02:39,120 --> 00:02:42,840 Speaker 1: pictures or you know, leaving comments with the most part 58 00:02:42,840 --> 00:02:47,760 Speaker 1: et cetera. Next thing, Supreme Court one of your favorite topics, Chris, 59 00:02:48,160 --> 00:02:52,240 Speaker 1: Uh Well, So as it stands, I know they shot 60 00:02:52,320 --> 00:02:55,200 Speaker 1: down on an EPA measure that would have kept the 61 00:02:55,240 --> 00:02:57,880 Speaker 1: air clean. I haven't fully dove into what that was, 62 00:02:57,919 --> 00:03:00,799 Speaker 1: but the main things that we saw as they wrap 63 00:03:00,919 --> 00:03:05,120 Speaker 1: up their last session, they are allowing emergency abortions in Idaho. 64 00:03:06,040 --> 00:03:09,359 Speaker 1: But the only reason is they said they're not actually 65 00:03:09,360 --> 00:03:11,680 Speaker 1: going to rule on the merits quite yet, So that's 66 00:03:11,720 --> 00:03:13,840 Speaker 1: not We're not fully out of the water with that 67 00:03:13,960 --> 00:03:15,920 Speaker 1: case where you know, they were saying that someone has 68 00:03:15,960 --> 00:03:17,640 Speaker 1: to be on the brink of death in that state 69 00:03:17,720 --> 00:03:22,359 Speaker 1: before an emergency abortion could be performed. But another thing 70 00:03:22,440 --> 00:03:26,639 Speaker 1: they also were seemingly gave the green light to our bribes. 71 00:03:27,800 --> 00:03:31,680 Speaker 1: There was a yeah, local mayor who basically bought a 72 00:03:31,680 --> 00:03:34,760 Speaker 1: bunch of trash trucks for about a million dollars, and 73 00:03:34,800 --> 00:03:37,560 Speaker 1: then that company gave him a nice little thirteen thousand 74 00:03:37,600 --> 00:03:40,280 Speaker 1: dollars donation after the fact. People are like, that seems 75 00:03:40,400 --> 00:03:43,800 Speaker 1: like a tip for tet interaction there. He said, it 76 00:03:43,840 --> 00:03:47,120 Speaker 1: was a gratuity, much in the same way you know 77 00:03:47,200 --> 00:03:51,040 Speaker 1: that people are given plaques for their service from interest 78 00:03:51,080 --> 00:03:54,720 Speaker 1: groups and things like that. Well, Kavanaugh, writing for the 79 00:03:54,760 --> 00:03:57,720 Speaker 1: Conservative majority, said that the question in the case was, 80 00:03:57,760 --> 00:04:00,200 Speaker 1: quote whether federal law makes it a crime for date 81 00:04:00,240 --> 00:04:04,080 Speaker 1: and local officials to accept such gratuities after the fact. 82 00:04:04,400 --> 00:04:12,880 Speaker 1: He wrote, the answer is no. So yeah, I've been 83 00:04:12,920 --> 00:04:13,680 Speaker 1: talking about it. 84 00:04:14,040 --> 00:04:17,880 Speaker 2: If you follow my social media, I tend to not you, 85 00:04:18,000 --> 00:04:22,440 Speaker 2: but just in general, you know, I talk about I 86 00:04:22,440 --> 00:04:24,600 Speaker 2: mean the Supreme Court at this point, to report on 87 00:04:24,640 --> 00:04:27,920 Speaker 2: the Supreme Court as if it's like a legitimate organization, 88 00:04:29,520 --> 00:04:32,039 Speaker 2: is I mean, if they put it, if they put 89 00:04:32,040 --> 00:04:34,920 Speaker 2: it like a little asterisk on like this is COVID 90 00:04:35,400 --> 00:04:38,520 Speaker 2: misinformation and they should always have an asterisk on every 91 00:04:38,560 --> 00:04:42,280 Speaker 2: Supreme Court decision from now on that this court is illegitimate, 92 00:04:42,880 --> 00:04:46,080 Speaker 2: because that's not like up for debate, it's it's been proven. 93 00:04:46,360 --> 00:04:48,839 Speaker 2: This is a proven fact that we have a bunch 94 00:04:48,920 --> 00:04:53,279 Speaker 2: of corrupted justices that have no right making these decisions. 95 00:04:53,279 --> 00:04:56,880 Speaker 2: And so it's like very difficult for our sort of 96 00:04:56,920 --> 00:04:59,520 Speaker 2: both sides journalism or just even like norms, like the 97 00:04:59,560 --> 00:05:02,080 Speaker 2: idea that the Supreme Court is compromised as not something 98 00:05:02,080 --> 00:05:04,239 Speaker 2: that like the New York Times or the Washington Post 99 00:05:04,240 --> 00:05:06,479 Speaker 2: are prepared to deal with because there are certain things 100 00:05:06,520 --> 00:05:09,760 Speaker 2: that they expect to be givens that the Supreme Court's 101 00:05:09,800 --> 00:05:10,360 Speaker 2: not corrupted. 102 00:05:10,480 --> 00:05:12,479 Speaker 3: So they don't kind of discuss it, well. 103 00:05:12,279 --> 00:05:14,200 Speaker 1: They do it in this sense where they bring up 104 00:05:14,320 --> 00:05:17,520 Speaker 1: how send it like someone else is concerned with it, 105 00:05:17,720 --> 00:05:20,400 Speaker 1: rather than like as a statement of fact, you're like, 106 00:05:20,520 --> 00:05:23,800 Speaker 1: this is like such a politicized body. 107 00:05:23,520 --> 00:05:26,360 Speaker 2: Now it should be the headline every day they make 108 00:05:26,400 --> 00:05:28,720 Speaker 2: the decisions for this whole fucking country. 109 00:05:29,000 --> 00:05:31,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, there's no sense of objectivity. 110 00:05:31,160 --> 00:05:35,240 Speaker 1: They're not just you know, like trying to make decisions 111 00:05:35,279 --> 00:05:37,440 Speaker 1: based on the law as they see it. Like, especially 112 00:05:37,480 --> 00:05:40,080 Speaker 1: when you see things with Samuel Alito and his wife 113 00:05:40,200 --> 00:05:43,280 Speaker 1: or Clarence Thomas or just all the conservative justices who 114 00:05:43,360 --> 00:05:45,640 Speaker 1: have all these question marks and murky shit behind them, 115 00:05:45,640 --> 00:05:47,560 Speaker 1: and you're like, yeah, they were all put in there 116 00:05:48,080 --> 00:05:50,400 Speaker 1: by the Federalist Society and they're here to do the 117 00:05:50,440 --> 00:05:52,080 Speaker 1: bidding of the conservative movement. 118 00:05:52,480 --> 00:05:55,120 Speaker 3: And yeah, it should be the top story. 119 00:05:55,160 --> 00:05:56,960 Speaker 2: That's the thing is like there's a couple top stories 120 00:05:57,000 --> 00:05:58,880 Speaker 2: that should be every day, and then everything else should 121 00:05:58,880 --> 00:06:01,640 Speaker 2: be underneath because they all follow from that. That's like 122 00:06:01,720 --> 00:06:09,320 Speaker 2: Citizens United and and and you know, declining tax rates 123 00:06:09,360 --> 00:06:13,160 Speaker 2: for the wealthy and the Supreme Court being corrupted as 124 00:06:13,160 --> 00:06:16,320 Speaker 2: a result of those two aforementioned things, and then everything 125 00:06:16,320 --> 00:06:18,839 Speaker 2: else should be under that. And that's why everybody feels 126 00:06:18,839 --> 00:06:20,080 Speaker 2: crazy because they've. 127 00:06:19,880 --> 00:06:20,920 Speaker 3: Read those things. 128 00:06:21,120 --> 00:06:23,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, those things explain so many of the things, even 129 00:06:23,600 --> 00:06:26,720 Speaker 1: like with Jamal Bowman losing his primary race, I mean, 130 00:06:26,720 --> 00:06:29,880 Speaker 1: I mean that is millions of dollars all Citizens United. 131 00:06:30,640 --> 00:06:33,520 Speaker 2: That's such a disaster, and so just fucking the fact 132 00:06:33,560 --> 00:06:36,599 Speaker 2: that Hillary Clinton is mixed up in that God damn 133 00:06:36,760 --> 00:06:39,680 Speaker 2: like just that Centrists are fascists and we need to 134 00:06:39,680 --> 00:06:40,560 Speaker 2: get our heads around that. 135 00:06:40,960 --> 00:06:46,239 Speaker 1: Yeah, because insanity, the status quo is violent, it's death 136 00:06:46,440 --> 00:06:49,320 Speaker 1: for people. It's not it's not something we need to 137 00:06:49,360 --> 00:06:51,880 Speaker 1: be embracing, we need to be moving away from. 138 00:06:51,880 --> 00:06:55,320 Speaker 2: But again, that's why both sides doesn't. Both sides only 139 00:06:55,400 --> 00:06:58,039 Speaker 2: works if both sides are like you know, you know, 140 00:06:58,200 --> 00:07:00,000 Speaker 2: years and years ago, when both sides were sort of 141 00:07:00,160 --> 00:07:02,719 Speaker 2: working toward once I was working toward. That doesn't matter 142 00:07:02,880 --> 00:07:03,600 Speaker 2: that everybody knows this. 143 00:07:05,279 --> 00:07:08,359 Speaker 1: We're like, man, I'm just about to explaining cluck. 144 00:07:08,400 --> 00:07:11,120 Speaker 3: We have to cut all the shit out, all right, 145 00:07:11,880 --> 00:07:12,880 Speaker 3: but I get the frustration. 146 00:07:13,240 --> 00:07:15,520 Speaker 1: We're gonna take a quick break and we will be 147 00:07:15,960 --> 00:07:27,880 Speaker 1: right back, and we're back. 148 00:07:28,520 --> 00:07:29,720 Speaker 3: Kevin Costner has. 149 00:07:29,640 --> 00:07:33,840 Speaker 1: A new movie coming out, and it sounds like it's 150 00:07:33,880 --> 00:07:37,760 Speaker 1: like this Western epic. It's called Horizon in American Saga 151 00:07:37,960 --> 00:07:41,720 Speaker 1: Chapter one. It cost one hundred million dollars to make, 152 00:07:42,080 --> 00:07:45,440 Speaker 1: a Costner grew in his own money. Apparently right now, 153 00:07:45,560 --> 00:07:48,240 Speaker 1: it's only projected to make between ten and twelve. 154 00:07:48,080 --> 00:07:49,480 Speaker 3: Million dollars at the box office. 155 00:07:49,600 --> 00:07:52,680 Speaker 1: Now we've known that these projections, we've been like, they've 156 00:07:52,720 --> 00:07:56,200 Speaker 1: been wrong before. But it's clear here that the the 157 00:07:56,360 --> 00:07:59,480 Speaker 1: sort of strategy that the studio is going for is 158 00:07:59,480 --> 00:08:01,880 Speaker 1: like they're trying to do like a sound like they're 159 00:08:01,880 --> 00:08:04,240 Speaker 1: trying to mimic like what the Sound of Freedom did 160 00:08:04,400 --> 00:08:07,280 Speaker 1: last year, like from Middle America. They wanted to come 161 00:08:07,320 --> 00:08:10,480 Speaker 1: out fourth of July, like just kind of get in there, 162 00:08:10,600 --> 00:08:13,560 Speaker 1: get people out there, into the into the theaters. 163 00:08:14,600 --> 00:08:15,680 Speaker 3: And because they saw that this. 164 00:08:15,720 --> 00:08:17,920 Speaker 1: Like indie film that was just a you know, human 165 00:08:17,960 --> 00:08:20,080 Speaker 1: trafficking topic movie. 166 00:08:20,120 --> 00:08:22,600 Speaker 2: That's how fast Ship moves. I forgot that movie existed. 167 00:08:22,760 --> 00:08:26,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, became one of the biggest fucking like it made a. 168 00:08:26,040 --> 00:08:27,720 Speaker 1: Ton of money during the summer, although a lot of 169 00:08:27,720 --> 00:08:30,120 Speaker 1: people were just buying the tickets and you know, propping 170 00:08:30,200 --> 00:08:32,840 Speaker 1: up those numbers. But the movie might be easier to 171 00:08:32,920 --> 00:08:35,920 Speaker 1: track if it actually was a right wing polemic like 172 00:08:36,000 --> 00:08:36,720 Speaker 1: Sound of Freedom. 173 00:08:37,360 --> 00:08:40,439 Speaker 3: Because the thing is with Kevin Costner, it's like what. 174 00:08:40,760 --> 00:08:43,080 Speaker 1: We don't really even know where he is politically, He's 175 00:08:43,240 --> 00:08:45,679 Speaker 1: quite almost he's all over the place. He's like a 176 00:08:45,720 --> 00:08:50,640 Speaker 1: red state coded regular Joe. But his work and like 177 00:08:50,760 --> 00:08:53,840 Speaker 1: what he says out cloud, yeah, like going, it's. 178 00:08:53,679 --> 00:08:56,360 Speaker 2: So true, Kevin Costner is not just a person. He 179 00:08:56,600 --> 00:08:59,160 Speaker 2: is like a something something something something. 180 00:08:59,679 --> 00:09:02,679 Speaker 1: Yeah, you're like you know, like with even like you know, 181 00:09:02,880 --> 00:09:05,559 Speaker 1: with this film, people are even trying to figure out, 182 00:09:05,559 --> 00:09:08,360 Speaker 1: like what you guys even saying about like colonialism. 183 00:09:08,679 --> 00:09:12,520 Speaker 2: He's a white supremacist avatar. He's the hot face of 184 00:09:12,800 --> 00:09:15,800 Speaker 2: he could be a Republican governor. It's the same old fucking. 185 00:09:15,640 --> 00:09:17,600 Speaker 1: Oh he would easily like yeah, just from the shit 186 00:09:17,679 --> 00:09:19,520 Speaker 1: he did in the eighties and nineties when people would 187 00:09:19,520 --> 00:09:21,600 Speaker 1: fucking eat his fucking just. 188 00:09:21,480 --> 00:09:24,640 Speaker 2: The same, like the same thing is like this just 189 00:09:24,760 --> 00:09:27,400 Speaker 2: sort of idea that if you look like you could 190 00:09:27,440 --> 00:09:29,760 Speaker 2: fit on Mount rushmore than you can be the governor 191 00:09:29,800 --> 00:09:31,880 Speaker 2: of our state and then everything will be all right. 192 00:09:32,240 --> 00:09:34,160 Speaker 2: And if we just had Kevin cost I mean, he 193 00:09:34,200 --> 00:09:36,040 Speaker 2: could probably fucking beat Trump. 194 00:09:36,040 --> 00:09:38,200 Speaker 1: You know what I mean, Like, yeah, he's still look, 195 00:09:38,320 --> 00:09:42,120 Speaker 1: he's himself was a Republican in the eighties who's friends 196 00:09:42,120 --> 00:09:45,559 Speaker 1: with Reagan, but then he donated to al Gore and Obama. 197 00:09:46,000 --> 00:09:48,560 Speaker 1: In twenty twenty two, he showed up wearing a T 198 00:09:48,720 --> 00:09:52,760 Speaker 1: shirt with the phrase I'm for Liz Cheney, and you're like, oh, 199 00:09:52,840 --> 00:09:55,520 Speaker 1: because she was like she was like the first Republican 200 00:09:55,559 --> 00:09:58,360 Speaker 1: to be like yeah, vehemently opposed it, frum outwardly. 201 00:09:59,000 --> 00:10:01,800 Speaker 2: He's actually a crusader for freedom. 202 00:10:01,880 --> 00:10:04,600 Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah. The Emperor Balpatine's daughter is so cool. 203 00:10:05,080 --> 00:10:07,000 Speaker 1: We love her, We love her, but even like, look 204 00:10:07,040 --> 00:10:09,560 Speaker 1: at like Field of Dreams, right, like, it's about a 205 00:10:09,640 --> 00:10:13,240 Speaker 1: farmer in Iowa who loves baseball, but like the opening 206 00:10:13,360 --> 00:10:16,160 Speaker 1: scene is like like they're at a PTA meeting where 207 00:10:16,240 --> 00:10:18,920 Speaker 1: him and his wife are opposing book bands, and then 208 00:10:18,960 --> 00:10:22,360 Speaker 1: the villain is his yuppie brother in law who's only 209 00:10:22,440 --> 00:10:25,760 Speaker 1: like about money rather than like the wonders of like 210 00:10:25,800 --> 00:10:26,520 Speaker 1: our universe. 211 00:10:26,559 --> 00:10:29,280 Speaker 3: If these ghosts are playing baseball and feel. 212 00:10:29,200 --> 00:10:32,520 Speaker 2: To us needing to do a podcast where I watch movies. Yeah, 213 00:10:32,520 --> 00:10:34,720 Speaker 2: me and you doing it because I've never seen Field Dreams. 214 00:10:34,880 --> 00:10:38,320 Speaker 1: But anyway, but then it ends where like Kevin Costner 215 00:10:38,440 --> 00:10:41,520 Speaker 1: keeps his farm because he's like, he's like monetizes the 216 00:10:41,559 --> 00:10:45,000 Speaker 1: fact that these like ancient baseball ghosts are playing baseball 217 00:10:45,040 --> 00:10:45,720 Speaker 1: in this field. 218 00:10:46,400 --> 00:10:48,319 Speaker 3: And then so like the moral of the story ends 219 00:10:48,360 --> 00:10:51,600 Speaker 3: up being like follow your dreams, man, and think outside 220 00:10:51,640 --> 00:10:52,160 Speaker 3: the box. 221 00:10:52,240 --> 00:10:53,560 Speaker 1: You know, as long as you know how to fucking 222 00:10:53,600 --> 00:10:56,360 Speaker 1: commodify that shit and and generate revenue off of it. 223 00:10:56,480 --> 00:10:57,640 Speaker 3: Okay, you're like, what is this? 224 00:10:57,880 --> 00:10:59,760 Speaker 2: What this makes me think of? It makes me think 225 00:10:59,800 --> 00:11:02,520 Speaker 2: of fucking the Bike Riders. I saw The Bike Riders, 226 00:11:02,960 --> 00:11:06,000 Speaker 2: that movie that's out now, you know, sure, and it 227 00:11:06,040 --> 00:11:06,840 Speaker 2: was a fun movie. 228 00:11:06,920 --> 00:11:07,600 Speaker 3: I enjoyed it. 229 00:11:07,760 --> 00:11:10,920 Speaker 2: A female actor who runs it, or's the main character. Basically, 230 00:11:10,960 --> 00:11:13,040 Speaker 2: she's great in it. But it's sort of a make 231 00:11:13,120 --> 00:11:15,920 Speaker 2: America great again kind of message. It's another one of 232 00:11:15,960 --> 00:11:19,120 Speaker 2: these like white you know, biker gangs were better and 233 00:11:19,240 --> 00:11:21,240 Speaker 2: less violent when they were all white and it was 234 00:11:21,240 --> 00:11:24,760 Speaker 2: the fifties, and it's it's like this hispanic guy shows 235 00:11:24,840 --> 00:11:26,679 Speaker 2: up and takes over the biker gang, and it's like 236 00:11:26,720 --> 00:11:29,520 Speaker 2: about the decline of biker gangs. I mean, it's like, really, 237 00:11:29,720 --> 00:11:32,200 Speaker 2: I can't it's not supposed to be and I guess 238 00:11:32,240 --> 00:11:33,920 Speaker 2: the real truth of this is supposed to be based 239 00:11:33,960 --> 00:11:36,160 Speaker 2: on a true story and maybe the guy was hispanic 240 00:11:36,440 --> 00:11:38,920 Speaker 2: who took over the club, but it's ends up being 241 00:11:39,000 --> 00:11:41,760 Speaker 2: fee you can't. I don't know how you can be 242 00:11:41,800 --> 00:11:43,800 Speaker 2: so klutzy to make a movie like that and not 243 00:11:43,920 --> 00:11:46,400 Speaker 2: see what you're what you're going to, how it's gonna 244 00:11:46,400 --> 00:11:47,920 Speaker 2: be perceived. It took me out of the movie. It 245 00:11:47,920 --> 00:11:49,680 Speaker 2: made me not enjoy the movie because I was like, 246 00:11:49,720 --> 00:11:52,360 Speaker 2: this is actually like kind of I get like, maybe 247 00:11:52,400 --> 00:11:55,240 Speaker 2: based on a true story, but it ends up being 248 00:11:55,360 --> 00:11:57,720 Speaker 2: another one of these things where it's like, don't we 249 00:11:57,800 --> 00:12:02,040 Speaker 2: wish like, man, we're in charge again. I mean, it's 250 00:12:02,080 --> 00:12:05,080 Speaker 2: really what it is, and it's all you know. And 251 00:12:05,080 --> 00:12:09,600 Speaker 2: that's what Kevin Costner represents. He represents the fetishization I 252 00:12:09,600 --> 00:12:12,320 Speaker 2: cannot say fetishization, and I love to say it. The 253 00:12:12,360 --> 00:12:17,400 Speaker 2: fetishization of white daddies, of white American fetishization of dudes 254 00:12:17,400 --> 00:12:19,720 Speaker 2: with big fucking heads. And I want to know, the 255 00:12:19,760 --> 00:12:22,720 Speaker 2: main thing I want to know about fucking Kevin Costner 256 00:12:22,800 --> 00:12:26,520 Speaker 2: is justice, justice. What the fuck is on top of 257 00:12:26,600 --> 00:12:29,120 Speaker 2: his head? And why has it been that same fuzzy 258 00:12:29,160 --> 00:12:32,400 Speaker 2: wuzzy wispy shit since. 259 00:12:32,280 --> 00:12:34,360 Speaker 3: All the way back? Like what is that? Like? 260 00:12:34,400 --> 00:12:39,440 Speaker 2: Did he for semi ball like realistic looking somewhat lost hair? 261 00:12:40,320 --> 00:12:41,720 Speaker 3: Yeah? Was his hair? 262 00:12:42,120 --> 00:12:43,760 Speaker 2: I want to know, Like I wish I could get 263 00:12:43,800 --> 00:12:48,560 Speaker 2: rich and get some hair, but yeah, Kevin Costner, Man, 264 00:12:48,920 --> 00:12:52,839 Speaker 2: Kevin Costner needs to fucking stop making cowboy movies because 265 00:12:52,880 --> 00:12:55,400 Speaker 2: he doesn't understand that he is a whether he knows 266 00:12:55,440 --> 00:12:57,079 Speaker 2: it or not, he's the right wing here, like. 267 00:12:57,400 --> 00:13:00,120 Speaker 3: He has all these like other like water World. Know, 268 00:13:00,160 --> 00:13:01,920 Speaker 3: you probably didn't even see water World, you know. 269 00:13:01,960 --> 00:13:04,960 Speaker 1: Water World is like do you know what it's about? 270 00:13:05,040 --> 00:13:08,720 Speaker 1: Baguely like the polar Ice caps melt and it's all water. Yeah, 271 00:13:08,720 --> 00:13:12,160 Speaker 1: it's like totally about climate change. They never mentioned climate 272 00:13:12,240 --> 00:13:14,280 Speaker 1: change once in that film. Just about the politics of 273 00:13:14,320 --> 00:13:16,720 Speaker 1: his film. Then in two thousand and eight, Chris just 274 00:13:16,760 --> 00:13:18,560 Speaker 1: to put bringing down memory lane, I know you were 275 00:13:18,600 --> 00:13:21,160 Speaker 1: loving the movies and there was a film called Swing 276 00:13:21,240 --> 00:13:24,080 Speaker 1: Vote that he was in that's literally about like the 277 00:13:24,080 --> 00:13:27,400 Speaker 1: election coming down to this one guy and what his vote, 278 00:13:27,520 --> 00:13:29,400 Speaker 1: like what direction the country is gonna go in? 279 00:13:30,760 --> 00:13:32,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, money, It's. 280 00:13:32,000 --> 00:13:34,719 Speaker 1: Just it's like off the walls. But like again, a 281 00:13:34,800 --> 00:13:37,480 Speaker 1: lot of people are like, what's the message here, because like 282 00:13:37,679 --> 00:13:40,080 Speaker 1: we were, we were grappling with the fucking Iraq war 283 00:13:40,160 --> 00:13:42,600 Speaker 1: and shit, and it's like nothing's like, bro, we're not 284 00:13:42,640 --> 00:13:47,160 Speaker 1: saying anything about fucking anything. And he even said like himself, 285 00:13:47,160 --> 00:13:49,160 Speaker 1: he's like the good thing about this is like there 286 00:13:49,200 --> 00:13:55,320 Speaker 1: isn't a message and you're like, oh okay. So it'll 287 00:13:55,320 --> 00:13:57,440 Speaker 1: be interesting to see what happens with his new film 288 00:13:57,480 --> 00:13:59,720 Speaker 1: that's about the West but has no take at all. 289 00:14:00,440 --> 00:14:02,640 Speaker 1: And I don't know, maybe if you really leaned into 290 00:14:02,800 --> 00:14:04,600 Speaker 1: like the right wing shit, maybe you could get that 291 00:14:04,640 --> 00:14:05,640 Speaker 1: sounder freedom bump. 292 00:14:05,800 --> 00:14:08,920 Speaker 3: But we will see. Time will only tell. 293 00:14:09,120 --> 00:14:12,240 Speaker 2: Well, that's that's a lazy thing to say. Everything's political 294 00:14:12,320 --> 00:14:15,160 Speaker 2: right now, whether it wants to be or not. I mean, 295 00:14:15,160 --> 00:14:17,679 Speaker 2: that's the thing. It's like, it's like, you can make 296 00:14:17,760 --> 00:14:18,200 Speaker 2: a statement. 297 00:14:18,200 --> 00:14:18,880 Speaker 3: You're making a statement. 298 00:14:18,960 --> 00:14:20,160 Speaker 2: Yeah you can, it's not. 299 00:14:20,360 --> 00:14:20,720 Speaker 3: It's not. 300 00:14:21,040 --> 00:14:24,240 Speaker 2: I understand. There was when things are stable, there's a 301 00:14:24,280 --> 00:14:26,840 Speaker 2: there's a chance you could be doing something apolitical. But 302 00:14:26,960 --> 00:14:30,680 Speaker 2: now everything's political because we're under attack from the inside. 303 00:14:30,720 --> 00:14:32,400 Speaker 2: So it's not. I mean, that's not and that's not 304 00:14:32,440 --> 00:14:35,080 Speaker 2: an overstatement. So it's like I get you know, he 305 00:14:35,200 --> 00:14:37,480 Speaker 2: has to understand, like whether or not he knows it, 306 00:14:37,520 --> 00:14:41,040 Speaker 2: he's a white icon and that means something, whether he 307 00:14:41,080 --> 00:14:43,440 Speaker 2: doesn't want it to. And then to make a cowboy movie, 308 00:14:43,480 --> 00:14:45,680 Speaker 2: I mean, come on, he's making a statement whether he 309 00:14:45,760 --> 00:14:47,920 Speaker 2: unless he's an idiot, and he's definitely not an idiot, 310 00:14:48,000 --> 00:14:50,120 Speaker 2: or he wouldn't be he wouldn't have such a nice 311 00:14:50,120 --> 00:14:50,720 Speaker 2: hair system. 312 00:14:51,040 --> 00:14:53,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, hair system. 313 00:14:53,400 --> 00:14:56,280 Speaker 2: Seriously, I'm fascinated by that, tought Chris. 314 00:14:56,840 --> 00:14:58,600 Speaker 3: I know you're on the internet. Have you saw you've 315 00:14:58,600 --> 00:15:01,080 Speaker 3: seen the trend about raw dot ugging a flight? I 316 00:15:01,080 --> 00:15:04,160 Speaker 3: have not seen what's that r so broad. 317 00:15:03,920 --> 00:15:06,720 Speaker 1: Dogging a flight is when people go on a flight 318 00:15:07,080 --> 00:15:10,000 Speaker 1: of an airplane flight with in the entire time with 319 00:15:10,200 --> 00:15:13,720 Speaker 1: zero entertainment, like not not watching. 320 00:15:13,400 --> 00:15:15,920 Speaker 3: Anything, not listening to anything, not. 321 00:15:16,040 --> 00:15:20,440 Speaker 1: Reading, just fucking turning your brain off, eyes straight ahead. 322 00:15:20,560 --> 00:15:22,720 Speaker 1: Some people even brag they don't go to the bathroom 323 00:15:22,800 --> 00:15:24,880 Speaker 1: or even drink water the whole time. They're like, I 324 00:15:25,000 --> 00:15:28,640 Speaker 1: just sit there and I'm zoned out, straight ahead. Have 325 00:15:28,720 --> 00:15:30,120 Speaker 1: you ever seen someone do this on a plane? 326 00:15:30,520 --> 00:15:31,000 Speaker 2: Uh? 327 00:15:31,040 --> 00:15:32,080 Speaker 3: Really, I don't think so. 328 00:15:32,360 --> 00:15:33,840 Speaker 2: I don't. I fall asleep when I'm on. 329 00:15:33,800 --> 00:15:35,360 Speaker 3: The plane, exactly, I know. 330 00:15:35,360 --> 00:15:37,560 Speaker 1: And like you're like mostly in your own world, where well, 331 00:15:37,600 --> 00:15:39,000 Speaker 1: this is like a whole thing people were talking about 332 00:15:39,040 --> 00:15:42,880 Speaker 1: the Internet and now an on deadline, it looks like 333 00:15:43,280 --> 00:15:48,200 Speaker 1: they're a twenty four maybe making a movie about this. 334 00:15:48,800 --> 00:15:52,240 Speaker 1: It's called the Entertainment System Is Down, and this is 335 00:15:52,280 --> 00:15:54,480 Speaker 1: the guy who directed A Triangle of Sadness, it says. 336 00:15:54,640 --> 00:15:57,080 Speaker 1: Described as a social satire, the movie takes place on 337 00:15:57,120 --> 00:15:59,920 Speaker 1: a super long haul flight think more than twenty hours. 338 00:16:00,120 --> 00:16:02,880 Speaker 1: While passengers would usually have access to digital entertainment, the 339 00:16:02,920 --> 00:16:05,920 Speaker 1: protagonists of the movie find themselves in a situation in 340 00:16:05,960 --> 00:16:10,000 Speaker 1: which the entertainment system is in fact down, and they are, 341 00:16:10,040 --> 00:16:12,480 Speaker 1: as Ustlin put it in an early interview, quote doomed 342 00:16:12,560 --> 00:16:14,000 Speaker 1: to deal with their boredom. 343 00:16:14,560 --> 00:16:16,400 Speaker 3: So, I mean, I think that doesn't. 344 00:16:16,080 --> 00:16:17,600 Speaker 2: Sound like a good movie. I'll tell you that. I 345 00:16:17,640 --> 00:16:19,440 Speaker 2: don't know what I said about that, except that sounds 346 00:16:19,480 --> 00:16:21,800 Speaker 2: like a horrible movie and it sounds like A twenty 347 00:16:21,840 --> 00:16:26,320 Speaker 2: four has been infiltrated by morons. I mean, that's not 348 00:16:26,360 --> 00:16:27,160 Speaker 2: a good movie. 349 00:16:27,240 --> 00:16:27,560 Speaker 3: I saw. 350 00:16:27,960 --> 00:16:30,320 Speaker 1: That's a common movie unless it's like, unless it's a 351 00:16:30,320 --> 00:16:32,920 Speaker 1: commentary on the fact that like people are just unable 352 00:16:33,000 --> 00:16:35,280 Speaker 1: to even be in the stillness, because I think that 353 00:16:35,440 --> 00:16:35,840 Speaker 1: is a thing. 354 00:16:35,960 --> 00:16:38,880 Speaker 2: Like they make it deeper than like just being like, 355 00:16:39,000 --> 00:16:46,040 Speaker 2: you know, there must be a deeper Hopefully they're going 356 00:16:46,080 --> 00:16:48,000 Speaker 2: to do like that. You know what that means that 357 00:16:48,040 --> 00:16:50,960 Speaker 2: you can't sit through some I mean, yeah, yeah, I'm 358 00:16:50,960 --> 00:16:53,640 Speaker 2: interested in I'm not interested. Also, everybody knows this. I 359 00:16:53,640 --> 00:16:55,800 Speaker 2: don't care about it. Being example, everyone knows that they're 360 00:16:55,840 --> 00:16:58,200 Speaker 2: over entertained and can't be by themselves. I don't need 361 00:16:58,200 --> 00:17:01,520 Speaker 2: a twenty four to like illustrate it. Yeah, like, okay, 362 00:17:01,560 --> 00:17:03,920 Speaker 2: you know, I mean, oh, you know, like I. 363 00:17:03,880 --> 00:17:04,640 Speaker 3: Mean a twenty four. 364 00:17:04,680 --> 00:17:07,119 Speaker 1: They're not I mean, they have a decent batting average, 365 00:17:07,160 --> 00:17:09,200 Speaker 1: so I'm sure they know what they're coming from. 366 00:17:09,280 --> 00:17:10,800 Speaker 3: And I was mad about iron Claw. 367 00:17:10,880 --> 00:17:12,120 Speaker 2: I just thought iron Claw. 368 00:17:12,920 --> 00:17:14,399 Speaker 1: I know you should have been cast. I know you 369 00:17:14,400 --> 00:17:16,840 Speaker 1: were talking, you were salty about that. You messed up 370 00:17:16,840 --> 00:17:17,359 Speaker 1: that audition. 371 00:17:17,440 --> 00:17:18,880 Speaker 2: They didn't even ask me or anything. 372 00:17:19,480 --> 00:17:20,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, I know they didn't. 373 00:17:21,040 --> 00:17:23,440 Speaker 2: Auditions, Man, that are so ridiculous. I'm surprised I didn't 374 00:17:23,440 --> 00:17:25,919 Speaker 2: get that. That's why I stopped doing auditions. But anyway, 375 00:17:25,960 --> 00:17:27,720 Speaker 2: they send you crazy. I'm like, I'm not gonna what 376 00:17:28,560 --> 00:17:32,000 Speaker 2: Vernon Presley, Elvis's father. 377 00:17:32,480 --> 00:17:33,479 Speaker 3: Wow, I did that. 378 00:17:33,600 --> 00:17:35,200 Speaker 2: I have the video. I should send you the video 379 00:17:35,280 --> 00:17:36,760 Speaker 2: audition for Elvis's dad. 380 00:17:37,000 --> 00:17:38,120 Speaker 3: Oh my god, we're gonna. 381 00:17:39,720 --> 00:17:46,240 Speaker 1: Video where we break down some of your self tape auditions. Anyway, 382 00:17:46,320 --> 00:17:49,840 Speaker 1: that's the most exciting thing I've ever heard going into 383 00:17:49,920 --> 00:17:50,399 Speaker 1: this weekend. 384 00:17:50,400 --> 00:17:52,800 Speaker 3: So I appreciate you putting that into my brain. 385 00:17:53,119 --> 00:17:54,800 Speaker 2: I'll send you a couple. I'll send you a couple 386 00:17:54,840 --> 00:17:56,320 Speaker 2: of these things. They're they're really funny. 387 00:17:56,400 --> 00:17:57,399 Speaker 3: I mean, it's really funny. 388 00:17:57,800 --> 00:18:00,560 Speaker 1: Next time around, we gotta I want to watch them 389 00:18:00,560 --> 00:18:03,479 Speaker 1: with you, Okay, I want to have that experience. 390 00:18:03,600 --> 00:18:04,920 Speaker 2: I've got a bunch of them I didn't get. I 391 00:18:04,920 --> 00:18:05,920 Speaker 2: didn't get a single part. 392 00:18:06,200 --> 00:18:07,320 Speaker 3: Zegang stay tuned. 393 00:18:07,320 --> 00:18:11,080 Speaker 1: When we do dive into the crofton audition chronicles in 394 00:18:11,119 --> 00:18:12,120 Speaker 1: an upcoming episode. 395 00:18:12,160 --> 00:18:13,560 Speaker 3: We promise you that is coming. 396 00:18:14,440 --> 00:18:16,440 Speaker 1: Chris, thank you so much for joining me on the 397 00:18:16,520 --> 00:18:17,639 Speaker 1: strending episode. 398 00:18:17,760 --> 00:18:18,360 Speaker 2: So much fun. 399 00:18:18,760 --> 00:18:21,280 Speaker 3: Guess what we're going to be back tomorrow. 400 00:18:21,600 --> 00:18:26,760 Speaker 1: Uh Jack is on a wonderful trip away rejuvenating, recharging 401 00:18:26,760 --> 00:18:27,440 Speaker 1: his batteries. 402 00:18:27,920 --> 00:18:30,680 Speaker 3: Uh so you know you're stuck with the substitute teacher 403 00:18:30,720 --> 00:18:32,520 Speaker 3: for a little bit, but we're gonna have a little fun. 404 00:18:32,600 --> 00:18:33,640 Speaker 3: We'll see you tomorrow. 405 00:18:33,880 --> 00:18:35,440 Speaker 1: Like we say, take care of yourselves, take care of 406 00:18:35,440 --> 00:18:37,800 Speaker 1: each other, get the vaccine. Uh you know, don't do 407 00:18:37,840 --> 00:18:40,840 Speaker 1: nothing about white supremacy, and we will see you tomorrow. 408 00:18:40,960 --> 00:18:42,080 Speaker 3: Bye, Thank y'all.