WEBVTT - How a Fusion Reactor Would Work

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<v Speaker 1>Get in touch with technology with tech Stuff from how

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<v Speaker 1>stuff works dot com. Hey there, and welcome to tech Stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm your host, Jonathan Strickland. I'm an executive producer with

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<v Speaker 1>how Stuff Works and I love all things tech. And

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<v Speaker 1>in our last episode, I described how nuclear fission reactors work.

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<v Speaker 1>There are several different kinds of nuclear fission reactors, but

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<v Speaker 1>they all depend upon the process of radioactive decay and fission.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's when you have a heavy atom that splits

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<v Speaker 1>into smaller atoms after some sort of process such as

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<v Speaker 1>absorbing and incoming neutron, and as a result, it releases

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<v Speaker 1>energy as a byproduct. That energy can then be used

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<v Speaker 1>to heat up water into steam and drive a steam

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<v Speaker 1>turbine to generate electricity. So listen to the last episode

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<v Speaker 1>for a full rundown of that. But now we're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>turn our focus to fusion. Now, with fusion, two or

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<v Speaker 1>more lighter atoms are fused together to form a heavier atom,

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<v Speaker 1>and they release a lot of energy in the process,

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<v Speaker 1>more energy than you would get from a fission reaction.

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<v Speaker 1>And rather than relying on heavy radioactive isotopes like uranium

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<v Speaker 1>two thirty five or plutonium two nine, is fuel you

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<v Speaker 1>would be using really light atoms that aren't themselves necessarily radioactive,

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<v Speaker 1>But doing so isn't as easy as it sounds. Fusion

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<v Speaker 1>is the process through which stars emit energy, like stars

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<v Speaker 1>in the galaxy, not on Hollywood Boulevard. The Sun is

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<v Speaker 1>basically an enormous fusion reactor, and the Sun is massive.

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<v Speaker 1>How massive you might ask, Well, if you look at

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<v Speaker 1>our solar system, and if you add up all the

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<v Speaker 1>mass represented inside that solar system, the Sun would account

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<v Speaker 1>for nine nine point eight six per cent of all

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<v Speaker 1>of that mass. All of the planets, moons, asteroids, and

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<v Speaker 1>other material would make up less than one per cent

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<v Speaker 1>of the mass of the solar system. One million earths

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<v Speaker 1>could fit inside the Sun. The Sun has a diameter

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<v Speaker 1>of one million, six four kilometers or more than eight

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<v Speaker 1>hundred sixty seven thousand miles, and most of the sun,

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<v Speaker 1>like sevent of it, is made out of hydrogen. Most

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<v Speaker 1>of the remaining mass is helium, and the process of

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<v Speaker 1>fusion inside the Sun's core turns hydrogen into helium. It

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<v Speaker 1>fuses hydrogen together and forms helium as a result at

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<v Speaker 1>a temperature of millions of degrees. According to the song

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<v Speaker 1>why does the sun shine which was made popular by

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<v Speaker 1>They Might Be Giants. However, I should point out that

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<v Speaker 1>song also has some inaccuracies, as we would no longer

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<v Speaker 1>say the Sun is a mass of incandescent gas, which

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<v Speaker 1>is why they Might be Giants. Eventually revised the song

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<v Speaker 1>with an updated verse and called why does the Sun

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<v Speaker 1>really shine and says the sun is a miasma of

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<v Speaker 1>incandescent plasma. But let's move on to understand solar fusion,

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<v Speaker 1>we need to know how stars form. And yes, then

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<v Speaker 1>this actually ends up being really important because it illustrates

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<v Speaker 1>the parameters necessary to make fusion work. So before you

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<v Speaker 1>have a star, you've got clouds of dust and gas

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<v Speaker 1>out in space, just floating around in the same general area.

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<v Speaker 1>Then you get some sort of gravity disturbance, which could

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<v Speaker 1>be caused by any number of things, such as a supernova.

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<v Speaker 1>This ends up causing some of that gas and dust

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<v Speaker 1>to clump together, and the particles are starting to move

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<v Speaker 1>closer and closer in with each other. And as all

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<v Speaker 1>this mass moves closer together, the force of gravity begins

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<v Speaker 1>to pull them in more tightly. You know, gravity depends

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<v Speaker 1>upon mass and distance, so as this mass gets concentrated,

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<v Speaker 1>it starts to create a gravitational pull gas it's drawn

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<v Speaker 1>inward into the core of this mass, and as the

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<v Speaker 1>pressure increases from the gravity pulling things inward, the mass

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<v Speaker 1>begins to heat up and the clump then begins to rotate.

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<v Speaker 1>This heat starts to move stuff around, and there's rotation

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<v Speaker 1>in the universe anyway, so you get some rotation of

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<v Speaker 1>the mass of stuff, and this starts to flatten out

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<v Speaker 1>into a disc. That process actually draws in more dust

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<v Speaker 1>and gas that gets drawn inward and the mass continues

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<v Speaker 1>to heat up. Now skip ahead about a million years.

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<v Speaker 1>You've done a million years of this process where this

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<v Speaker 1>disc has continuously been sucking up more dust and gas

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<v Speaker 1>through gravitational pull and heating up over and over more

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<v Speaker 1>and more, and the core of the disc has become

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<v Speaker 1>a dense structure that we would call a proto star. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>proto stars can turn into full blown stars, or they

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<v Speaker 1>might not. It depends all on how much matter is around,

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<v Speaker 1>how much mass can they accumulate. So if there's enough

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<v Speaker 1>mass in the form of gas and dust, the protostar

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<v Speaker 1>will pull it inward heat up even more, and once

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<v Speaker 1>the temperature hits around seven million degrees kelvin which is

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<v Speaker 1>equal to about twelve point six million fahrenheit or nearly

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<v Speaker 1>seven million celsius. Fusion will begin. Hydrogen atoms will be

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<v Speaker 1>stripped of their electrons because they have far too much energy,

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<v Speaker 1>and the intense temperature and pressure will cause them to

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<v Speaker 1>fuse together to form helium atoms, and that process releases energy.

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<v Speaker 1>The nuclear fusion creates a strong outward pressure, so if

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<v Speaker 1>there were no other boundaries on this system, the protostar

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<v Speaker 1>would just expand to the point where it dissipates. However,

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<v Speaker 1>there's still that incredible gravitational pull that counteracts the expansion

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<v Speaker 1>from nuclear fusion, and the young star will still pull

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<v Speaker 1>in more material. If the protostar collects a sufficient amount

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<v Speaker 1>of mass, the temperature will remain hot enough to sustain fusion,

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<v Speaker 1>and the protostar will release a jet of gas called

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<v Speaker 1>a bipolar flow. That flow will push away gas and

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<v Speaker 1>dust from the star. Some of that stuff could potentially

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<v Speaker 1>clump together to form stuff like planets and moons, But

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<v Speaker 1>if the protostar doesn't accumulate enough mass, the protostar will

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<v Speaker 1>not become a fully fledged star. Instead will turn into

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<v Speaker 1>what is called a brown dwarf. So we see that

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<v Speaker 1>fusion occurs under intense temperatures and intense pressures. The same

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<v Speaker 1>is true if we want to create fusion on Earth.

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<v Speaker 1>So what is actually going on with a fusion reaction?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I know that we take two atoms of

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<v Speaker 1>hydrogen and we push them together real hard in a

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<v Speaker 1>very high temperature, high pressure environment, and we get helium.

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<v Speaker 1>But how does that release energy, especially after you need

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<v Speaker 1>so much inergy to make it happen in the first place. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to give a very simplistic answer to this,

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<v Speaker 1>but please know that in reality, the real answer, if

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<v Speaker 1>you really boil it down, it's ridiculously complicated. So this

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<v Speaker 1>is a very high level look at what is going on,

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<v Speaker 1>But to go into more detail would require a very

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<v Speaker 1>deep understanding nuclear physics. I frankly do not possess a

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<v Speaker 1>deep understanding of nuclear physics. I have a cursory understanding,

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<v Speaker 1>but I can sort of explain from a very very

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<v Speaker 1>general level. So fusion involves binding those two lighter atoms

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<v Speaker 1>to make a heavier atom. So let's say we've got

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<v Speaker 1>atoms number one and atom number two, and we combine

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<v Speaker 1>them together and we get atom number three. However, we

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<v Speaker 1>see that atom number three's mass is not the same

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<v Speaker 1>as if we added up the mass of atoms one

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<v Speaker 1>and two together. Right, So if we said that the

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<v Speaker 1>mass of atom one is one and the massive atom

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<v Speaker 1>two is one, the massive atom three might actually end

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<v Speaker 1>up being one point eight, but not too so how

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<v Speaker 1>is that possible? After all, matter, just like energy, cannot

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<v Speaker 1>be created or destroyed. Ah, but you can convert it.

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<v Speaker 1>And this is where a real Einstein comes into play.

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<v Speaker 1>His name was Einstein. Einstein's famous equation E equals mc

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<v Speaker 1>squared tells us that if you were to convert mass

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<v Speaker 1>into energy, the amount of energy you would get would

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<v Speaker 1>be you take you take a mass, and you multiply

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<v Speaker 1>that times the speed of light squared. And the speed

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<v Speaker 1>of light is a really big number, like a huge number,

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<v Speaker 1>and then you've just gone and squared it. You multiplied

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<v Speaker 1>that huge number by itself. Then you take that even

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<v Speaker 1>bigger number and multiply that by however much stuff you

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<v Speaker 1>have the mass of the stuff, and that tells you

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<v Speaker 1>how much energy would be produced. It is an enormous

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<v Speaker 1>amount of energy represented in a very tiny amount of mass.

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<v Speaker 1>So the missing mass from this fusion process isn't really missing,

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<v Speaker 1>it's converted from mass to energy, and that is why

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<v Speaker 1>fusion reactions are so powerful. The amount of mass lost

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<v Speaker 1>in the fusion process is tiny, but even so that

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<v Speaker 1>generates an enormous amount of energy. Now, like I said,

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<v Speaker 1>there's an overly simple way of describing what is going on.

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<v Speaker 1>We can get into quantum mechanics, we can get into

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<v Speaker 1>nuclear physics, and I would be totally lost. And so

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<v Speaker 1>there are a lot of details that I am glossing over,

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<v Speaker 1>but at least gives a hint as to why fusion

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<v Speaker 1>power is so tantalizing because it could potentially produce so

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<v Speaker 1>much energy we could put to use in doing things

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<v Speaker 1>like creating electricity. But there are other reasons why fusion

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<v Speaker 1>is really attractive as well, and I'll go into those

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<v Speaker 1>in just a moment, but first let's take a quick

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<v Speaker 1>break to thank our sponsor. So here's the idea for

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<v Speaker 1>a nuclear fusion reactor. You would start with some isotopes

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<v Speaker 1>of hydrogen. Now I mentioned isotopes in the previous episode,

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<v Speaker 1>but just to catch you up in case you haven't

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<v Speaker 1>heard it, isotopes are whord we use to describe atoms

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<v Speaker 1>of the same element, but those atoms have different number

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<v Speaker 1>of neutrons from each other. The number of protons has

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<v Speaker 1>to remain the same for these atoms, because otherwise you

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<v Speaker 1>would have a totally different element. But neutrons have a

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<v Speaker 1>neutral charge. They do not affect the chemical properties of

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<v Speaker 1>the element, but they do change the atomic mass of

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<v Speaker 1>the atoms. The two isotopes of hydrogen most frequently used

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<v Speaker 1>for hydrogen fusion reactions are deuterium and tritium. Now first,

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<v Speaker 1>before I talk about deuterium and tritium, let me talk

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<v Speaker 1>about protium. That's hydrogen one. That's the most common isotope

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<v Speaker 1>of hydrogen. It consists of a single proton and an electron,

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<v Speaker 1>no neutrons, and protium makes up about nine of all

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<v Speaker 1>the hydrogen and found on Earth. Most of that hydrogen,

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<v Speaker 1>by the way, is locked in with other stuff, hydrocarbons

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<v Speaker 1>in particular. Then you have deuterium. Deuterium has one proton

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<v Speaker 1>and one neutron in the nucleus, and it has one

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<v Speaker 1>electron orbiting the nucleus. So it's like protium, excepted has

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<v Speaker 1>a neutron. So some of the hydrogen in the water

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<v Speaker 1>on Earth is deuterium. Like one atom out of every

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<v Speaker 1>six thousand, five hundred hydrogen atoms or so, then you

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<v Speaker 1>have tritium that is hydrogen three. It has one proton,

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<v Speaker 1>two neutrons, and one electron. Now, tritium can occur in

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<v Speaker 1>very trace amounts on Earth in the atmosphere, but it

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<v Speaker 1>is exceedingly rare. It's typically only found in the tiniest

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<v Speaker 1>amounts in the atmosphere after hydrogen atoms have interacted with

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<v Speaker 1>cosmic rays, so there's no easy way of getting hold

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<v Speaker 1>of it. But we can tots make tritium ourselves. That

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<v Speaker 1>does involve irradiating other stuff, so I don't recommend taking

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<v Speaker 1>it on as a d I Y project. Also, tritium

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<v Speaker 1>itself is radioactive. It has a half life of about

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<v Speaker 1>ten years, so tritium, while while deuterium is not radioactive,

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<v Speaker 1>tritium is. Fusion reactors would probably have to rely upon

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<v Speaker 1>deuterium tritium reactions, which would create a helium four atom

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<v Speaker 1>and a neutron. Now, if we could manage deuterium deuterium

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<v Speaker 1>reactions just fusing to deuterium atoms together, that would be

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<v Speaker 1>for the best because that would produce a helium three

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<v Speaker 1>isotope plus a neutron, and the results would be preferable

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<v Speaker 1>to the deuterium tritium. Because deuterium occurs naturally on Earth

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<v Speaker 1>means we don't have to make it. We can actually

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<v Speaker 1>harvest it from the oceans if we wanted to. Plus,

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<v Speaker 1>deuterium isn't radioactive, tritium is, and the reaction would yield

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<v Speaker 1>more energy than a deuterium tritium reaction. But on the

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<v Speaker 1>downs side, the amount of energy we would need to

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<v Speaker 1>initiate a deuterium deuterium reaction is so great that it

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<v Speaker 1>is prohibitive right now and possibly always will be. We

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<v Speaker 1>just don't have the capability of creating that. Helium four,

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<v Speaker 1>by the way, UH consists of two protons and two neutrons.

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<v Speaker 1>Helium three is an isotope that only has one neutron

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<v Speaker 1>with those two protons. So where's the problem. We know

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<v Speaker 1>what's happening with fusion, but why can't we make it

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<v Speaker 1>a reliable reactor? Why can't we make a fusion reactor

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<v Speaker 1>right now that produces more energy than it requires to operate? Now,

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<v Speaker 1>first you have to create the conditions that allow fusion

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<v Speaker 1>to happen in the first place. Fusing nuclei together means

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<v Speaker 1>you have to overcome the repulsive force you encounter when

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<v Speaker 1>you try to smush together two particles with the same charge,

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<v Speaker 1>and by repulsive, I don't mean they're disgusting. I mean

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<v Speaker 1>they repel each other. Like if you take two magnets

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<v Speaker 1>and you try and put the north end of each

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<v Speaker 1>magnet next to each other, you'll feel them resist that,

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<v Speaker 1>they'll push against each other because like charge repels, like

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<v Speaker 1>opposite charges attract, So a positively charged particle will attract

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<v Speaker 1>a negatively charged one, but the same charge repels and

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<v Speaker 1>to positively charged particles like protons, are going to resist

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<v Speaker 1>getting smushed together. They repel one another. You have to

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<v Speaker 1>overcome that tendency, so you have to heat up the

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<v Speaker 1>hydrogen to millions of degrees kelvin. That amount of energy

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<v Speaker 1>will strip the electrons away from the hydrogen atoms, turning

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<v Speaker 1>the atoms into nuclei, which would make a protium just

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<v Speaker 1>become a proton all by itself, but deuterium, you would

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<v Speaker 1>have a proton and a neutron together, and hydrogen would

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<v Speaker 1>change from gas form into plasma. Plasma is the most

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<v Speaker 1>plentiful form of matter in the universe, because again that's

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<v Speaker 1>what stars are made of, and we've already established how

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<v Speaker 1>massive stars can be keep in mind, the Sun is

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<v Speaker 1>not the biggest kind of star we've ever seen, so

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<v Speaker 1>it's the most plentiful stuff. It's essentially an ionized gas,

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<v Speaker 1>meaning that has free roaming part of electrons and nuclei

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<v Speaker 1>inside of it. Now, to get hydrogen to those temperatures,

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<v Speaker 1>to heat up hydrogen enough to turn it into a plasma,

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<v Speaker 1>we use powerful technologies and typically we use stuff like

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<v Speaker 1>lasers or microwaves and ion particles to heat up the

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<v Speaker 1>material to a temperature high enough where we can actually

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<v Speaker 1>turn it into plasma. Then we have to use some

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<v Speaker 1>form of containment to push all of those nuclei together

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<v Speaker 1>big time. We have to really squish them in so

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<v Speaker 1>that they are within one time's tent to the negative

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<v Speaker 1>fifteen meters to fuse together. They had to be so

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<v Speaker 1>darn close to each other. And we don't have the

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<v Speaker 1>benefit of having an intense gravitational force like the Sun

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<v Speaker 1>has because of it's so massive. The gravity that the

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<v Speaker 1>Sun exerts is so strong that it that that condition

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<v Speaker 1>is natural in the core of the Sun. We can't

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<v Speaker 1>replicate that on Earth. We don't have the control of gravity,

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<v Speaker 1>so we have to use something else, and we typically

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<v Speaker 1>use stuff like magnetic fields or lasers or ion beams

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<v Speaker 1>in order to do that. I'll explain how in just

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<v Speaker 1>a moment, but first let's take another quick break to

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<v Speaker 1>thank our sponsor. All right, let's talk about magnetic confinement.

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<v Speaker 1>That means we're using magnetic and electric fields to manipulate

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<v Speaker 1>the plasma to squish it into a tiny mass, and

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<v Speaker 1>it also heats it up in the process. The International

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<v Speaker 1>Thermonuclear Experimental Reactor, or at least that's what was formerly

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<v Speaker 1>known as also called it and France relies on that approach.

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<v Speaker 1>Actually these days they say that i t e R

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<v Speaker 1>no longer stands International Thermonuclear Experimental Reactor. Instead they say

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<v Speaker 1>it is a reference to the Latin phrase for the way,

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<v Speaker 1>probably because the word thermonuclear sounds super scary. But this reactor,

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<v Speaker 1>which is a research project meant to explore the possibilities

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<v Speaker 1>of using magnetic confinement to produce fusion reactions that will

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<v Speaker 1>release more energy than it requires to initiate, has was

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<v Speaker 1>called a tacomac. That's a specific kind of reactor has

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<v Speaker 1>an arrangement of magnets that are sort of in the

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<v Speaker 1>shape of a of a doughnut or or toroid. And

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<v Speaker 1>this kind of reactor would first convert hydrogen gas into

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<v Speaker 1>plasma using microwaves, electricity, and neutral particle beams, and then

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<v Speaker 1>those superconducting magnets would create an extremely powerful magnetic field

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<v Speaker 1>compressing the plasma, and because plasma has an electric charge,

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<v Speaker 1>it's going to respond to these magnetic fields. The amount

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<v Speaker 1>of power needed to start the fusion process, according to it,

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<v Speaker 1>will be about fifty megawatts, but the fusion process would

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<v Speaker 1>produce five hundred megawatts, meaning the thermal output power should

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<v Speaker 1>be ten times greater than the heating input power, so

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<v Speaker 1>you get a tenfold return on your power investment. That

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<v Speaker 1>sounds pretty sweet, but itder itself will not produce electricity,

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<v Speaker 1>at least not first anyway, it's meant to be a

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<v Speaker 1>research facility for the design and testing of fusion technologies. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>if it were a fusion power facility and it was

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<v Speaker 1>beyond research and development, the thermal energy generated from the

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<v Speaker 1>fusion reaction would be used again to heat water into

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<v Speaker 1>steam and push steam turbines, just like a nuclear fission

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<v Speaker 1>reactor or even a cold power plant does. But would

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<v Speaker 1>be really really good at this because it would be

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<v Speaker 1>producing so much energy you could heat up a lot

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<v Speaker 1>more water. You could drive more steam turbines than other

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<v Speaker 1>forms of steam turbine generators, and so you can generate

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<v Speaker 1>quite a bit of electricity from the amount of energy

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<v Speaker 1>you are producing through these reactions. In addition, because we're

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<v Speaker 1>pretty sure we're limited to do tterium tritium reactions, I

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<v Speaker 1>turn would also serve as a test facility to look

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<v Speaker 1>at the feasibility of creating tritium breeder reactors. So a

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<v Speaker 1>breeder reactor creates the materials you need for a different

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<v Speaker 1>type of reaction. So the the reactor is in what

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<v Speaker 1>is called a vacuum vessel, and that vacuum vessel will

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<v Speaker 1>have lithium blankets lining the inside of it, and those

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<v Speaker 1>blankets will actually absorb energy given off by this reactor

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<v Speaker 1>during the fusion process, and as a result, when you

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<v Speaker 1>bombard lithium with radioactive energy, essentially it produces tritium. So

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<v Speaker 1>that way you can actually create part of the fuel

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<v Speaker 1>you need for future reactions as a byproduct of this process,

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<v Speaker 1>and then you keep on going. But that's magnetic confinement.

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<v Speaker 1>There's actually another way we could use to keep plasma

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<v Speaker 1>confined so that fusion reactions can occur and that is

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<v Speaker 1>called inertial confinement. That one uses ion beams or laser

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<v Speaker 1>beams to confine and squeeze the plasma. The National Ignition

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<v Speaker 1>Facility at Lawrence Livermore Laboratory in the United States uses

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<v Speaker 1>that methodology, and the n i F reactor would use

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<v Speaker 1>two different laser beams to focus on a single point.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's inside a chamber. You've got this big chamber

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<v Speaker 1>called the whole rom h O H L R A

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<v Speaker 1>U M is the spelling for that, and the chambers

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<v Speaker 1>specifically designed for radiant energy. That chambers ten ms in diameter.

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<v Speaker 1>It's pretty big. So what happens at the one focal

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<v Speaker 1>point where all those lasers are aimed at. Well. At

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<v Speaker 1>that point will set a tiny pellet of duteri um

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<v Speaker 1>tritium and it's encased in a plastic cylinder. The one

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<v Speaker 1>laser beams will pour one point eight million jewels of

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<v Speaker 1>power into this cylinder. This creates an enormous amount of heat.

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<v Speaker 1>It also emits X rays as a result, and this

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<v Speaker 1>will help convert that pellet into a plasma. The lasers

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<v Speaker 1>compress this plasma and fusion occurs. The fusion reaction will

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<v Speaker 1>be over in less than in an instant like one

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<v Speaker 1>millionth of a second, but that reaction should produce about

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<v Speaker 1>fifty to one hundred times more energy than what was

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<v Speaker 1>needed to initiate the reaction in the first place, so

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<v Speaker 1>the return on energy would be incredible, much more than

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<v Speaker 1>the magnetic confinement which was ten times right. So a

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<v Speaker 1>series of experiments eventually got the plasma to produce more

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<v Speaker 1>energy than it required to initiate, but the project never

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<v Speaker 1>reached full ignition. They never got to the point where

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<v Speaker 1>they fully ignited the fuel, where you had full fusion.

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<v Speaker 1>Are research is ongoing at the facility, but the early

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<v Speaker 1>optimistic hopes that full ignition would be reached by late

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<v Speaker 1>obviously proved to be too ambitious. Now, one day it

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<v Speaker 1>may prove to be an effective process to use as

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<v Speaker 1>a way to generate the energy necessary to drive electrical generators,

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<v Speaker 1>but a lot more work has to be done to

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<v Speaker 1>achieve goals and create a sustainable approach. A sustainable approach,

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<v Speaker 1>by the way, if you think about that setup where

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<v Speaker 1>you have a hund lasers focused on one little point,

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<v Speaker 1>how do you make that something that you can continuously

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<v Speaker 1>do so that you can keep generating energy and create

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<v Speaker 1>electricity while you would have multiple pellets inside the chamber,

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<v Speaker 1>and the lasers would focus on one after another and

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<v Speaker 1>initiate fusion for each of those in order to generate

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<v Speaker 1>the energy did to create electricity, So we got a

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<v Speaker 1>long way to go. And like Eider, the n i

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<v Speaker 1>F was not intended to be a power plant itself.

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<v Speaker 1>It was a research and testing ground still is a

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<v Speaker 1>research and testing grounds for technology for various uh applications,

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<v Speaker 1>not just nuclear power but also nuclear weapons. Research goes

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<v Speaker 1>on there. Uh Now it might that research might one

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<v Speaker 1>day make fusion reactors practical. A fusion reactor like the

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<v Speaker 1>one in i F research could lead to would generate

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<v Speaker 1>electricity the same way the Eider based reactor would. In

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<v Speaker 1>other words, it would be used to generate energy that

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<v Speaker 1>would heat up water to turn into steam. So it

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<v Speaker 1>all comes back down to steam turbines. Seems like almost

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<v Speaker 1>all the major ways we generate electricity, with the exception

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<v Speaker 1>of something like direct solar power, has some variation of this.

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<v Speaker 1>While we haven't cracked the nut on fusion reactors, it

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<v Speaker 1>does remain a tantalizing goal. Deuterium is more plentiful than

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<v Speaker 1>stuff like your name two thirty five and it's not radioactive.

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<v Speaker 1>Tritium is radioactive, but we'd create that from energy given

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<v Speaker 1>off during fusion reactions, and so we could have breeder

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<v Speaker 1>reactors produced the fuel supply needed for various power plants,

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<v Speaker 1>and the stuff we'd used to generate the tritium is lithium,

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<v Speaker 1>and we are lousy with lithium. Is that is not

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<v Speaker 1>hard to get hold of at all. The amount of

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<v Speaker 1>fuel we would need for fusion reactions in general is

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<v Speaker 1>a fraction of what we would need for a fission

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<v Speaker 1>based nuclear power plants. So that's the other nice thing

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<v Speaker 1>about is that you don't need as much stuff to

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<v Speaker 1>generate the energy you want to generate, right, You don't

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<v Speaker 1>have to go mining for uranium two thirty eight and

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<v Speaker 1>then enriching that so that you have enough uranium two

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<v Speaker 1>thirty five to have a sustainable nuclear reaction, and the

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<v Speaker 1>amount of radiation produced by such reactors would be less

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<v Speaker 1>than the natural background radiation we typically encounter in our

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<v Speaker 1>day to day lives, and that's a nice change from

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<v Speaker 1>fission based nuclear reactors. There's also no combust bustion with

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<v Speaker 1>a nuclear fusion plant. There's also no combust in with

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<v Speaker 1>a fission nuclear power plant, at least not if everything

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<v Speaker 1>is working properly, so you aren't burning stuff and you

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<v Speaker 1>don't cause any pollution that way, And unlike fission reactors,

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<v Speaker 1>fusion reactors would not produce high level nuclear wastes. You

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<v Speaker 1>would still have low level nuclear waste, and that's still

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<v Speaker 1>something you have to be concerned about, but that in

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<v Speaker 1>general is much easier to deal with than the high

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<v Speaker 1>level stuff. That's the again, one of the big reasons

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<v Speaker 1>why fission reactors get so much pushback is this high

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<v Speaker 1>level radioactive waste. But we'll have to wait a while

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<v Speaker 1>to see if this all pans out. Itter is scheduled

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<v Speaker 1>to start doing plasma experiments in twenty five, so we're

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<v Speaker 1>still a few years off before we see if that

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<v Speaker 1>experiment bears fruit. N i F has been on and

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<v Speaker 1>off again with their fusion projects, largely due to funding issues,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's hard to convince government agencies to fund exploratory

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<v Speaker 1>research when you cannot be absolutely certain that it's going

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<v Speaker 1>to work. It's tough to say, yes, this investment is

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<v Speaker 1>a risk. It might pay off in ways we can't

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<v Speaker 1>even imagine, because we would be able to generate so

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<v Speaker 1>much energy that we would easily meet our energy needs

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<v Speaker 1>for the foreseeable future. But if it doesn't work, then

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<v Speaker 1>we've spent all that money for you know, some lasers

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<v Speaker 1>that that turn some deuterium tritium pellets into plasma, but

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<v Speaker 1>not enough of it to make it make a difference.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not a great way to try and get money, unfortunately,

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<v Speaker 1>because government agents tend to want results because eventually the

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<v Speaker 1>government agents have to report to the people who vote

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<v Speaker 1>for them. And if if you're a voter who's very

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<v Speaker 1>concerned with where your money is going, you might not

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<v Speaker 1>want to hear about a risky scientific proposition that may

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<v Speaker 1>not pay off in the long run. I'm always for

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<v Speaker 1>exploratory science, but it's easy for me to say, right,

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<v Speaker 1>I get that I'm from a very privileged position when

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<v Speaker 1>it comes to that. Now, in my next episode, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>going to tackle a very controversial topic, and that would

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<v Speaker 1>be the concept of cold fusion. Cold fusion is a

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<v Speaker 1>process that, if it works, means that you would have

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<v Speaker 1>adams like deuterium fusing together at room temperature. You wouldn't

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<v Speaker 1>need to have these elaborate setups to create such enormous

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<v Speaker 1>amounts of pressure and heat in order for this to happen,

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<v Speaker 1>and if in fact it does work, it would dramatically

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<v Speaker 1>transform our world. We wouldn't need facilities like itter or

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<v Speaker 1>in i F because we would be able to do this,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, in a lab and a nice, nice lab

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<v Speaker 1>with maybe some radioactive shielding because occasionally it would produce

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<v Speaker 1>gamma rays. But I'll talk about that more in the

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<v Speaker 1>next episode. So continue down this nuclear pathway with me

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<v Speaker 1>as we talk about cold fusion. In the next episode

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<v Speaker 1>and then the episode after that, we'll take a closer

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<v Speaker 1>look at what actually happened at sites like Three Mile Island,

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<v Speaker 1>Chernobyl and the Fukushima reactors. So join us for those.

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