WEBVTT - Why Do You Keep Your Urine In Bottles, Jeb!?

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<v Speaker 1>Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio the George

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<v Speaker 1>Washington Broadcast Center. Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty. I'm strong

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<v Speaker 1>and Jackie enough, he armstrong and Yetty.

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<v Speaker 2>We are always going to be merely human, just normal

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<v Speaker 2>human people who need our mom.

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<v Speaker 1>Mama, Mama, if you're listening, we need you to come home.

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<v Speaker 1>We missed you. That's Annie Guthrie, Savannah Guthrie's sister, from

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<v Speaker 1>a video of the family put out yesterday about four

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<v Speaker 1>minutes long. Not exactly sure what all the goals were

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<v Speaker 1>in there, but part of the goal was to reach

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<v Speaker 1>out to potential kidnapper kidnappers and the start a conversation.

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<v Speaker 1>The leading theory seems to be that they're not in

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<v Speaker 1>conversations with the kidnapper, despite the reporting of a ransom

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<v Speaker 1>note existing, because that only went to news outlets and

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<v Speaker 1>not to the family.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, and it's not clear that it was the same

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<v Speaker 3>note that went to both outlets. The local TV stations

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<v Speaker 3>seems more legit.

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<v Speaker 1>There might be one hundred different probably are at this point, oases, etc. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>John Miller is one of the few reasons to ever

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<v Speaker 1>tune into CNN former FBI. He was on like what

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<v Speaker 1>was he on Law and Order CSI He was a

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<v Speaker 1>TV star for a while way back in the day. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and then he went back to cable news. Pretty sure

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<v Speaker 1>he was. Anyway, here's John Miller on the story.

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<v Speaker 4>You start off with proof of life. Can you show

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<v Speaker 4>me a picture? Can you put the victim on the phone?

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<v Speaker 4>Can you send us a recording? If not, that you

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<v Speaker 4>can drill down to. I'm going to send you three questions.

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<v Speaker 4>These are questions that only the victim would know. And

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<v Speaker 4>you know, you try to test that kidnapper who's in

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<v Speaker 4>the middle of a money demand and say, how can

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<v Speaker 4>you prove two things to us? One that you're real

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<v Speaker 4>that you are the person who has or had her,

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<v Speaker 4>and two that she's still alive?

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<v Speaker 1>And those are important tests. Yeah, that's all with the

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<v Speaker 1>assumption that it's somebody that had a thought out plan

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<v Speaker 1>to make money or what you know, you hope that

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<v Speaker 1>that's the case. At least then you got a shot

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<v Speaker 1>as opposed to it's just some weirdo, crazy person that

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<v Speaker 1>thinks Savannah Guthrie was you know, specifically talking to him

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<v Speaker 1>through the TV or who knows what?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh lord, Yeah, well, even the first scenario I think

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<v Speaker 3>by far, the most likely thing is that some half

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<v Speaker 3>wit who decides he's a criminal genius who realizes almost

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<v Speaker 3>immediately he's bitten off way more than he can chew,

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<v Speaker 3>especially given poor missus Guthrie's health status. So he's got

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<v Speaker 3>a very sick, elderly woman who could have.

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<v Speaker 1>Died on his hands, and then he's like, what are

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<v Speaker 1>I know? Right? Yeah, that's not unlikely, No, it's not.

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<v Speaker 1>The Sheriff's department did not have a press conference yesterday,

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<v Speaker 1>which I think is perfectly fine because they didn't have

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<v Speaker 1>anything to say, but being criticized a lot, of course

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<v Speaker 1>by your cable news show armchair quarterbacks who have to

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<v Speaker 1>fill the hour with no new information on the story

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<v Speaker 1>with something it's completely enoughheard of to not have a

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<v Speaker 1>press conference. I don't know what kind of amateur hour

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<v Speaker 1>we're dealing with here, you know, that sort of stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>But they're having a press conference today, which to me

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<v Speaker 1>is fine. But although I did hear the sheriff asked

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<v Speaker 1>what I hear mask that I was somewhat troubled by.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, it's not his fault. How would all you

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<v Speaker 1>do who've never been, you know, had a microphone stuck

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<v Speaker 1>in your face with five TV cameras around you, when

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<v Speaker 1>you start getting grilled on stuff, I mean, that's it's

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<v Speaker 1>a tough position to be and if you've never done

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<v Speaker 1>it before. But he was asked about if you if

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<v Speaker 1>you think she's still alive, and he said, yeah, I

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<v Speaker 1>think so. H are you basing that on anything? And

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<v Speaker 1>then uh, And then the reporter asked him, I thought

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<v Speaker 1>this was an awful question, but there is the possibility

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<v Speaker 1>she's dead. And he said, oh yeah, of course, thought

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<v Speaker 1>what what is what is that? What is that conversation? Idiotic?

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<v Speaker 1>I think that's that for Oh yeah, what what's what?

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<v Speaker 1>A stupid question? Turn in your reporter card such a

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<v Speaker 1>thing exists? Probably not. Don't report on anything ever again,

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<v Speaker 1>go home, get a new job. Ashley Banfield, who used

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<v Speaker 1>to be a big deal way back in the day.

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<v Speaker 1>For some reason, I don't remember what she was. She

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<v Speaker 1>was reporting with a headscarf on in Iraq at the

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<v Speaker 1>beginning of the war or something. Anyway, it doesn't matter.

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<v Speaker 3>She was at the very tail end when CNN was

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<v Speaker 3>at all respectable.

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<v Speaker 1>She is a hack and here's her speculating over the

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<v Speaker 1>last couple of days.

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<v Speaker 5>One law enforcement source, very connected, highly regarded impeccable credentials.

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<v Speaker 5>Knowledge of this investigation says that thomaso Cioni, Annie P.

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<v Speaker 5>Guthrie's husband, maybe the prime suspect in this case. In

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<v Speaker 5>Annie's vehicle has been towed, impounded and is now in evidence.

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<v Speaker 5>At the very least, let me tamp that down, because

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<v Speaker 5>sometimes it's the first person you're looking at, not prime,

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<v Speaker 5>as in there's no one else, Okay, so let's be

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<v Speaker 5>really mindful of that. Families are always looked at first

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<v Speaker 5>as well.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, so you're tamping down a rumor that you're starting. Correct.

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<v Speaker 1>So that crying woman you just heard from at the

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<v Speaker 1>beginning of this segment, Annie whose mom is missing and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sure their worried is already dead, her husband killed mom.

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<v Speaker 1>According to Ashley Banfield, that's the prime suspect. Nobody else

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<v Speaker 1>is reporting that at all. So only Ashley and as

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<v Speaker 1>Joe pointed out earlier, and we're supposed to believe that

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<v Speaker 1>somebody at a level where they would have the knowledge

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<v Speaker 1>of who the prime suspect is decided to leak it

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<v Speaker 1>and chose Ashley Banfield as the way to get it out,

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<v Speaker 1>but nobody else. I'm not talking telling the New York

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<v Speaker 1>Times or NBC News or any of the many heavyweight

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<v Speaker 1>nom Gonna go with Ashley Banfield in her podcast for

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<v Speaker 1>who the prime.

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<v Speaker 3>Suspect is, even though the very knowledgeable miss Banfield pointed

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<v Speaker 3>out that no, that might just be the first person

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<v Speaker 3>they're looking at. I think the whole thing is hogwashed.

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<v Speaker 3>The world oh click baity podcasts has realized there's no

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<v Speaker 3>premium for telling the truth. There's no particular The other

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<v Speaker 3>way to put it is, there's no particular penalty for

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<v Speaker 3>lying constantly.

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<v Speaker 1>A lot of the top podcasts in the world lie constantly,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what, And I can understand. I hate it.

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<v Speaker 1>I wouldn't do it. We don't do it. But I

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<v Speaker 1>can see how if I'm just a regular person and

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<v Speaker 1>I got a couple of different news outlets covering this

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<v Speaker 1>story that I find jazzy enough to get my attention

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<v Speaker 1>every single day, and one of them says they know

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<v Speaker 1>who a prime suspect is. That's what I'm going to

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<v Speaker 1>listen to, yep, even though it's crap. And how about

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<v Speaker 1>that poor guy most likely as upset as his wife,

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<v Speaker 1>really worried about his wife and how upset she is,

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<v Speaker 1>and some hack on a podcast is claiming he's the

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<v Speaker 1>prime suspect. How's that fun thing to deal with? I'm

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<v Speaker 1>sure that's gotten back to the family. Yeah, maybe i'llo

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<v Speaker 1>her crappy podcast. She's part of the News Nation team.

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<v Speaker 1>I guess they played a podcast. Does a podcast under

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<v Speaker 1>their I wasn't digging under Rocks for Ashley Banfield's podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>They played that on News Nation for their morning news

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<v Speaker 1>show today. Wow. Wow, I think that's really out of bound.

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<v Speaker 1>And you can't you can't be claiming family members did

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<v Speaker 1>it unless you got some real solid information that that's

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<v Speaker 1>what the I said, A high high source only told

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<v Speaker 1>me this, only told me hack Ashley Banfield. Correct, not

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<v Speaker 1>John Miller, CNN hack, who's got all kinds of non

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<v Speaker 1>hack hack network FB high connections and all kinds of

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<v Speaker 1>people at the very highest levels. Don't tell him, tell

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<v Speaker 1>Ashley Banfield. Right, that's out all that's out of line.

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<v Speaker 1>I couldn't do that. So what what's your what's your

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<v Speaker 1>working theory? My working theory?

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<v Speaker 1>I don't say this hoping the I hope the family

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't hear it or anything like that. This is just

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<v Speaker 1>me treating this like a TV show, not like real

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<v Speaker 1>human beings, I guess. But I think the most likely

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<v Speaker 1>thing is they find the poor old woman dead somewhere.

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<v Speaker 1>I think everybody's yeah, agreed on that they find her,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, out in the bushes in the desert. He

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<v Speaker 1>killed her, or she died on her own and he

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<v Speaker 1>dumped her there. And then eventually they'll find the scumbag,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe with a bullet in his head, who knows.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, the history of these crimes is full of would

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<v Speaker 3>be criminal geniuses who are actually half wits, and they

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<v Speaker 3>botch everything, and it just it's it's awful.

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<v Speaker 1>How often is it kidnapping successful? Anyway? How often do

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<v Speaker 1>you actually are you actually able to on both sides

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<v Speaker 1>get what you want? You want your loved one back,

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<v Speaker 1>the other person wants the money and to get away.

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<v Speaker 1>I wonder how often that actually happens, because the old

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<v Speaker 1>the trade off, you know, as a classic how the

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<v Speaker 1>hell do you do it? You walk across a bridge

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<v Speaker 1>with a briefcase, and the person with their hands tied

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<v Speaker 1>or whatever you do. But it always requires some trust

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<v Speaker 1>on both sides, and how often does it ever actually work?

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<v Speaker 1>It's got the percentage has got to be incredibly low. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I would guess it's it's very, very small. Yeah, the

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<v Speaker 1>world of cryptocurrente has made the money exchange much safer

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<v Speaker 1>for the monster. I mean, ransomware attacks.

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<v Speaker 3>Are essentially, you know, kidnapping a computer system, and it's

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<v Speaker 3>pretty easy to get paid these days. We've seen a

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<v Speaker 3>ton of those obviously, but you'd.

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<v Speaker 1>Still have to have some trust involved there, because I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not one hundred percent. Yeah I'm not. You know, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not sending you the money until I know you got

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<v Speaker 1>her or you're going to give her back to me.

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<v Speaker 1>And he's saying, well, I'm not sending you the money.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, on the first one you can figure out,

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<v Speaker 1>the second one you can't. Right, You've just got to

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<v Speaker 1>hope they come through, and their lives would be easier

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<v Speaker 1>if they drop off the victim, as opposed to you know,

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<v Speaker 1>adding murder to their many charges. It's grim. It's a

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<v Speaker 1>horrible crime. Yeah, but the likelihood of success so low.

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<v Speaker 1>It's amazing that it happens very often. Back to my

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<v Speaker 1>half wit spree. That is the problem. It's a moron,

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<v Speaker 1>some moron from Arizona who heard that Savannah Guthrie's mom

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<v Speaker 1>lives in that neghborhood over there. I know what I'll do,

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<v Speaker 1>says the moron. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>On a lighter note, because everything's a lighter note. Are

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<v Speaker 2>Strong.

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<v Speaker 1>We have found a one hundred and fifty year old

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<v Speaker 1>bottle of alcohol to eighteen seventies eighteen nineties. This is

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<v Speaker 1>the era we're dealing with.

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<v Speaker 4>It's in reasonably good shape, I would say, after sitting

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<v Speaker 4>for one hundred and fifty years.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, very very slight vinegar. When we're smelling the

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<v Speaker 1>cork giver shot doesn't smell that kind of an oxidized fruit. Note,

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<v Speaker 1>it's fruity. That's beer. There is a little bit of leather.

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<v Speaker 1>You have to try it.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, beer's beer because it's kind of as like a

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<v Speaker 5>yeasty element in the background.

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<v Speaker 1>Cati, you are making funny face to the people tasting

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<v Speaker 1>me one hundred and fifty year old bottle of wine.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm guessing alcohol. They just don't know what it is.

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<v Speaker 3>That's the whole point, and they think it's beer.

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<v Speaker 1>At the end. You never want something with a yeasty element.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm getting. I'm getting notes of reconstruction with a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit of a getting a little McKinley in there. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>getting a set up just so. The aftertaste of Custar's

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<v Speaker 1>last stand uh wow, years old. You see, I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>sure I would ingest that. I don't think I would either, No,

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<v Speaker 1>even if it was tasted by like somebody to make

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<v Speaker 1>sure it wasn't poison.

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<v Speaker 3>At this point, I was just gonna say, hey, Michael,

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<v Speaker 3>get ready with the harp noise.

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<v Speaker 1>One hundred and fifty years ago today, Hey.

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<v Speaker 3>Ma, I'm gonna store this rat poison in this here bottle.

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<v Speaker 1>You don't be drinking anything a problem. Why do you

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<v Speaker 1>keep all your urine in bottles, jip. I just feel

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<v Speaker 1>like I should keep my urine for posterity. Need it.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't question me. Woman. Now in the modern day, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>detecting eastinoes. Wow. Oh, nice old Jeb and.

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<v Speaker 3>His urine saving proclivities. Oh boy, speaking of drinking. Looking

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<v Speaker 3>for a side hustle, why don't you give a call

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<v Speaker 3>to the new north Well Health Medical Facility in Long Island,

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<v Speaker 3>New York, where patients are being given the greenlight to

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<v Speaker 3>get quote frat house high on magic mushrooms, MDMA, and

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<v Speaker 3>cannabis while watching sports and chowing down on chips, all

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<v Speaker 3>in the name of medical science.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, oh, I don't know what MDMA. There's another thing

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<v Speaker 1>my kid could be doing. I don't even know.

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<v Speaker 3>Nevermber Molly Holly ecstasy ish, says the director of the

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<v Speaker 3>Manhassan based Feinstein Family Human Neuropsychopharmacology Lab. It's easy for

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<v Speaker 3>you to say, we're studying full doses that produce anywhere

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<v Speaker 3>from a four to six hour trip. They're trying to

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<v Speaker 3>assess different substances ability to treat things like schizophrenia, schizophrenia

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<v Speaker 3>and social anxiety.

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<v Speaker 1>Many of those treat social anxiety. I can attest to this.

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<v Speaker 1>The venture focuses on, at least briefly.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it focuses on naturalistic environments that embody either the

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<v Speaker 3>comfort of one's living room where patient's gonna get stoned,

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<v Speaker 3>or a live bar setting for getting drunk, completely complete

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<v Speaker 3>with high deftvs showing sports, highlights, snacks and refills on demand.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you really need to do this? Can you just

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<v Speaker 1>ask a whole bunch of people who've lived that lifestyle

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<v Speaker 1>a lot questions.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm trying to explain the science to you. Okay, all right.

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<v Speaker 3>They have to answer questions. They'll have to report on

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<v Speaker 3>their mood state. There's downtime when they can enjoy them.

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<v Speaker 1>So has amorous hungry?

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<v Speaker 3>You got a boyfriend, I'm asking you a questions? So

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<v Speaker 3>they give them big old doses a psilocybin, the main

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<v Speaker 3>component of magic mushrooms, et cetera, cetera.

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<v Speaker 1>Here's my favorite part.

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<v Speaker 3>The center has two dedicated rooms to monitor different drug

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<v Speaker 3>users that are tailored to make the users of the

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<v Speaker 3>substances feel especially cozy. One room has bluish mood lighting

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<v Speaker 3>for someone tripping on psychedelics. Well, another room is let

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<v Speaker 3>in green for cannabis. Let's see, So you get hammered

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<v Speaker 3>and then and they want you to be in a

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<v Speaker 3>comfortable environment like you would be in.

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<v Speaker 1>Like a comfortable chair in front of a television.

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<v Speaker 3>Then they observe you through one way glass in a

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<v Speaker 3>series of cameras then at once at some point they

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<v Speaker 3>like start quizzing you and make you memorize like a

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<v Speaker 3>sequence of numbers, or that there's a test driving simulator

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<v Speaker 3>that'd be fun. But making me do like memory acrobatics

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<v Speaker 3>when I'm like super high. Oh, so, after people had

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<v Speaker 3>some drinks, we asked them to remember a string of numbers,

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<v Speaker 3>do addition, or make choices out of a series of

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<v Speaker 3>choices that are available to them.

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<v Speaker 1>Choices like bittercreen, choices like her or her.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, no, no, it's probably much more anodyne than.

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<v Speaker 1>That, but wow, it looks pretty nice. Got a big,

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<v Speaker 1>old big screen watching TV there. So CBS did a

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<v Speaker 1>report on self driving cars last night. I thought it

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<v Speaker 1>was kind of interesting. You want to touch on that also,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if you know Philosopher Bertrand Russell. He

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<v Speaker 1>was born back when they made that booze late eighteen hundreds. Anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>his description of socialism I came across over the weekend

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<v Speaker 1>I thought was one of the best I've ever heard.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to use it for the rest of my

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<v Speaker 1>life to describe it. I love that. Among other things,

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<v Speaker 1>we got on the way and plus a new feature

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<v Speaker 1>at in our four of the show. Yes, we do

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<v Speaker 1>four hours come for sure, these untied States.

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<v Speaker 3>It's an amigram for these United States. Some of the

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<v Speaker 3>whackier crap going around going on around the country.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh cool, I like that. Laboratories of Democracy, Fantastic, Armstrong

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<v Speaker 1>and Getty.

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<v Speaker 6>Microsoft founder Bill Gates apologizing for his association with sex

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<v Speaker 6>offender Jeffrey Epstein, saying he regrets every minute they spent together.

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<v Speaker 1>I was foolish to spend time with him. I was

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<v Speaker 1>one of many people who ever knowing him.

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<v Speaker 6>Gates said he never witnessed or took part in any

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<v Speaker 6>inappropriate behavior. He insists his relationship with Epstein was focused

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<v Speaker 6>on raising money for global health.

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<v Speaker 1>Now his ex wife, we played that clip yesterday. She

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<v Speaker 1>was on a podcast earlier in the week saying that's

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<v Speaker 1>the reason they divorced. That's the reason she left her husband.

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<v Speaker 1>She obviously believed he was doing something creepy, right, Yeah, at.

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<v Speaker 3>The very least hanging out in places where people hooked

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<v Speaker 3>up and had sex. The number of folks who persisted

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<v Speaker 3>in being in contact with Epstein from all walks of

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<v Speaker 3>life is really interesting, including several like of the highest

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<v Speaker 3>members or officials in the Labor Party in Britain, and

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<v Speaker 3>it was all about monetary connections, all about money flowing

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<v Speaker 3>back and forth and insider trading tips and doing favors

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<v Speaker 3>and that sort of thing.

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<v Speaker 1>Have you seen the one elon the email from elon, Hey,

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<v Speaker 1>you got any wild parties coming up? I need to Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I think he said something like I need to let

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<v Speaker 1>loose or something like that, I've been working so much

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<v Speaker 1>or something like that. And that's like it. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>is that enough to assume that he means I want

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<v Speaker 1>to go to the island and have sex with seventeen

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<v Speaker 1>year old girls. No, no, I see a lot of people.

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<v Speaker 1>Well I can't help them. By the way, the interesting

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<v Speaker 1>part of that email was sent on Christmas morning, December

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<v Speaker 1>twenty fifth, whatever the Christmas Who gets up on the

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<v Speaker 1>twin fift things? Man, I need to go to Jeff

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<v Speaker 1>Epstein's island. All that rapping and eggnug hey, I need

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<v Speaker 1>to break So A I don't care, and B I

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<v Speaker 1>give up.

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<v Speaker 3>But there seems to be this assumption among people that

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<v Speaker 3>every single day everything he did included a nude seventeen

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<v Speaker 3>year old Epstein.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, the only reason it's not true the only reason

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<v Speaker 1>I bring this up is I've had two this week

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<v Speaker 1>people I know and like, who gently prodded me that

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<v Speaker 1>they're a little disappointed at how flippant we are about

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<v Speaker 1>this story compared to everybody else, Republicans and Democrats.

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<v Speaker 3>Really, what version of it are we talking about? Well,

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<v Speaker 3>that's what I always have to ask. Yeah, I know,

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<v Speaker 3>that's that's the problem I have.

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<v Speaker 1>So one, I don't believe there's a giant global child

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<v Speaker 1>sex trafficking, rape dismemberment ring at all. So that's off

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<v Speaker 1>the table. That includes the Bushes, the Obama's, Israel and

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<v Speaker 1>everything I got. That's off the table. It's known that

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<v Speaker 1>Jeffrey Epstem, you know, forced women that were, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>teenagers under eighteen into situations where they were alone with

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<v Speaker 1>men and had to have sex with them and all

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<v Speaker 1>this sort of stuff. We know that happened, which is awful.

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<v Speaker 1>That's why he was in jail and ended up hanging

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<v Speaker 1>himself as is ms Maxwell. Yes, but if he also

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<v Speaker 1>had women who were and I assume this is true,

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<v Speaker 1>willingly there knowing exactly what they were getting into. They

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<v Speaker 1>were over the age of eighteen, hanging out with super

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<v Speaker 1>rich dudes, who were they were willing to do things

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<v Speaker 1>with because it makes for a cool lifestyle. Am I

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<v Speaker 1>supposed to be super upset about that. I don't like that.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't dig that. But it's not against the law

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<v Speaker 1>right exactly. And that's what I was hinting at.

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<v Speaker 3>Ask any NBA player about parties where women are more

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<v Speaker 3>than willing to be sexually available, including young women, not

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<v Speaker 3>underage women, but very young women. It's just it's not

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<v Speaker 3>crazy in the circles of the super rich. So if

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<v Speaker 3>Elon Musk said, hey, you haven't any of your big parties,

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<v Speaker 3>I'll bet Elon. I'll bet Jeffrey Epstein had unbelievable blowout

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<v Speaker 3>parties with booze and food and hot looking models and

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<v Speaker 3>all sorts of stuff in which there were no seventeen

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<v Speaker 3>year olds at all.

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<v Speaker 1>Actually, Elon said something to that effect the other day

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<v Speaker 1>on a podcast. He said, trust me, if I need

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<v Speaker 1>to find companionship, it's not hard given my name and

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<v Speaker 1>recognition and everything like that. I'm sure true. He's the

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<v Speaker 1>richest man in the world, also a pretty decent looking guy,

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<v Speaker 1>and the richest man in the world. I don't think

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<v Speaker 1>he probably needs I think he specifically said, I don't

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<v Speaker 1>need Jeffrey Epstein to facilitate me getting companionship. I'm sure

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<v Speaker 1>that's true, right, Although facilitate getting underage companionship, you might

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<v Speaker 1>need somebody if that's what he wanted, but I don't have.

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<v Speaker 1>But there's no proof of that whatsoever.

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<v Speaker 3>And you know what nobody has talked about, because as

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<v Speaker 3>soon as it's found out that whomever, and there's a

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<v Speaker 3>kind of a long list grown right now who claimed,

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<v Speaker 3>oh yeah, I dropped any contact with him immediately after

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<v Speaker 3>the conviction or whatever, we haven't been in contact.

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<v Speaker 1>Then it turns out you've been sending emails for years. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>all sorts of folks like that.

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<v Speaker 3>They continued the contacts, the relationship, et cetera. I want

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<v Speaker 3>a handful of them to explain it honestly, which I'm

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<v Speaker 3>not going to get.

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<v Speaker 1>But say, Howard Lutnix one of them. He's the one

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<v Speaker 1>we played the clip back in the day of you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I went over there and ate a massage table in

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<v Speaker 1>the middle of his house and we left right away.

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<v Speaker 1>And I told my wife after we left the house,

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<v Speaker 1>since we got out on the sidewalk, I said, we

0:23:50.920 --> 0:23:53.760
<v Speaker 1>are never talking to that guy again. And then there

0:23:53.800 --> 0:23:59.160
<v Speaker 1>are emails of him communicating with Epstein after I want

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<v Speaker 1>to hear them explain it.

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<v Speaker 3>The guy was so incredibly well connected you just could

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<v Speaker 3>hardly avoid it in the New York financial circles. Or

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know, he's just so charming, or he told

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<v Speaker 3>me he thought the girl was eighteen that he got

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<v Speaker 3>convicted for.

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<v Speaker 1>Or I just want them to explain it.

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<v Speaker 3>What does the poll this guy have And no, it's

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<v Speaker 3>not that he works for the IDF.

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<v Speaker 1>By the way, stop it. One other thing on Epstein

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<v Speaker 1>before we move on Bill and Hillary Clinton apparently, Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>while they agreed to testify, I don't know what specifically

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<v Speaker 1>they're going to be asked about, but they're really pushing

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<v Speaker 1>to make it public. So currently it's going to be

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<v Speaker 1>filmed behind closed doors and then I guess we get

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<v Speaker 1>to see it and there will be a transcription, but

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<v Speaker 1>they want it to be public. I think it's pretty

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<v Speaker 1>interesting that they're pushing for it to be public.

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<v Speaker 3>Alle hundred percent yeah, because they don't want what they

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<v Speaker 3>say characterized by James Comer. They want the exact quotes there.

0:24:57.440 --> 0:24:59.600
<v Speaker 3>And they go in knowing they're not going to get

0:24:59.680 --> 0:25:02.920
<v Speaker 3>us for anything. We got either a we got nothing

0:25:03.040 --> 0:25:06.080
<v Speaker 3>that they can use or B there's nothing they can

0:25:06.200 --> 0:25:08.080
<v Speaker 3>use that are going to come out of our mouths.

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<v Speaker 1>I also think they both are pretty confident in their

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<v Speaker 1>ability to handle themselves in that situation. Verbally, Yeah, and

0:25:18.480 --> 0:25:20.679
<v Speaker 1>they'd love to have that live. Yeah, let's get it

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<v Speaker 1>on now. I don't know how sharp Bill still is.

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<v Speaker 1>He's pretty dang old. Yeah, Yes, what order do I

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<v Speaker 1>want to do this in? Maybe I'll just skip to this.

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<v Speaker 1>Do I do that alphabetical? So here's the story they

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<v Speaker 1>had on CBS News like last night that I wanted

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<v Speaker 1>to comment on about the rapidly approaching future of self

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<v Speaker 1>driving cars.

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<v Speaker 2>You've seen the viral videos self driving cars not following

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<v Speaker 2>the rules of the road. Tuesday, Senator Ed Markey sent

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<v Speaker 2>letters to seven autonomous vehicle companies demanding answers about safety

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<v Speaker 2>and oversight. The Massachusetts Democrat is pushing two measures, one

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<v Speaker 2>requiring more transparent currency and another requiring companies to certify

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<v Speaker 2>their vehicles as safe. Tesla and Weimo have aggressive expansion plans,

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<v Speaker 2>but warn every year China becomes a bigger and bigger competitor.

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<v Speaker 2>Weimo says it's self driving vehicles are ten times less

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<v Speaker 2>likely to be involved in a serious injury accident than

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<v Speaker 2>a human driver.

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<v Speaker 1>There was a lot about that. I thought it was interesting,

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<v Speaker 1>and they touched mostly on Weimo and Tesla in their

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<v Speaker 1>battle to be the dominant self driving car out there.

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<v Speaker 1>And they talked about how there are currently lots of

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<v Speaker 1>state laws. They're fifty different states with different laws, and

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<v Speaker 1>Ted Kruz was saying, we need to have a uniform

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<v Speaker 1>because cars, you know, cross state boundaries all the time,

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<v Speaker 1>so we need to have some sort of uniform national

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<v Speaker 1>something or other. But everybody sounded like they were trying

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<v Speaker 1>to get to zero mistakes. Are you certified to be

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<v Speaker 1>completely mistake free? I'm not. I was just going to.

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<v Speaker 3>Say, what does that mean? They need to certify it

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<v Speaker 3>as safe? That sounds like grand standy Congress bullcraft.

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<v Speaker 1>Outside of a very easy to clear low bar to

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<v Speaker 1>get a driver's license, none of us are certified as

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<v Speaker 1>as safe as these self driving cars are. So it's interesting.

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<v Speaker 1>It's interesting. I don't want self driving cars happen because

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<v Speaker 1>I think they're going to force us into them. That's

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<v Speaker 1>what I'm worried about. I think it's inevitable, but I

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<v Speaker 1>just wish it wouldn't happen, and it's going to be

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<v Speaker 1>very hard to argue you argue against it because it

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<v Speaker 1>is going to be safer. One thing about the whole

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<v Speaker 1>safe thing though, on the stats of ten times safer?

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<v Speaker 1>Are you is it ten times safer than those of

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<v Speaker 1>us who've never had a major crash or all the

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<v Speaker 1>people that have never had a crash, or is it

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<v Speaker 1>ten times safer than you know, the worst drivers out

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<v Speaker 1>there now, the entire universe of driver. Well, I know

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<v Speaker 1>that's what it is, but I would love to hear

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<v Speaker 1>that comparison though. It's a really you if you took

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<v Speaker 1>if you check out the most crash prone bottom ten

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<v Speaker 1>percent of human drivers, then I wonder what the difference

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<v Speaker 1>would be. It wouldn't ten times.

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<v Speaker 3>For the record, stop expressing fractions as multiples.

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<v Speaker 1>I hate that.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, that's that's a really good question. I was

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<v Speaker 3>just thinking about what an incredible boon to the elderly

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<v Speaker 3>self driving cars will be and a drunk and drunks,

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<v Speaker 3>the old and the drunk. Yes, And as an old drunk,

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<v Speaker 3>trust me, I'm.

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<v Speaker 1>Enthusiastic about this. Yeah, I just it sounded to me

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<v Speaker 1>like the senator they were talking to has like a

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<v Speaker 1>zero tolerance policy for any mistakes for self driving cars.

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<v Speaker 1>When we've got you know, people staring at their phones

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<v Speaker 1>at eighty five miles an hour, we even in out

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<v Speaker 1>of traffic all over the country.

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<v Speaker 3>You know what AI needs to do, This is brilliant.

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<v Speaker 3>This is my billion dollar idea. AI needs to develop

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<v Speaker 3>a three question test that it can immediately spin out

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<v Speaker 3>on any topic. So if a congressman starts talking about

0:28:55.280 --> 0:28:58.040
<v Speaker 3>self driving cars, they get that through quick three question

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<v Speaker 3>test to determine whether they have any freaking idea what

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<v Speaker 3>they're talking about. And if they failed the test, they're

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<v Speaker 3>not allowed to talk. Or you know, you use it

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<v Speaker 3>at cocktail parties or whatever, but you know, or people

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<v Speaker 3>answering poll questions you think Trump's tariffs have been a

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<v Speaker 3>good thing or bad thing?

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<v Speaker 1>Before you answer, I got three questions. They featured the

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<v Speaker 1>story we had this the other day in California, a

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<v Speaker 1>waimo hit a six year old boy. Well, the six

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<v Speaker 1>year old boy darted out behind a parked car. Nobody

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<v Speaker 1>could have stopped. Weaimo made the argument that the reaction

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<v Speaker 1>time of the computer was significantly faster than any human

0:29:36.480 --> 0:29:39.920
<v Speaker 1>could have reacted. It was a fraction right, and but

0:29:40.080 --> 0:29:44.040
<v Speaker 1>it's presented as like show, has anybody ever in their

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<v Speaker 1>lives turned the wrong way down a one way street?

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<v Speaker 1>Of course you have. Yeah, if Waimo does it or

0:29:51.240 --> 0:29:53.400
<v Speaker 1>Tesla does it, it makes the news and they act

0:29:53.520 --> 0:29:55.880
<v Speaker 1>like proof that you can't have self driving cars. There

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<v Speaker 1>isn't anybody that hasn't ever done that in their life,

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<v Speaker 1>right right, Yeah, I agree completely with your premise.

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<v Speaker 3>I think it's worth dwelling at least for a second

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<v Speaker 3>on the nature of journalism and speech perception that that

0:30:08.680 --> 0:30:11.000
<v Speaker 3>Weaimo incident in which and we talked about this at

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<v Speaker 3>fair length, but the car reacted in a super human

0:30:15.520 --> 0:30:18.760
<v Speaker 3>tiny span of time, ended up bumping the kid at

0:30:18.760 --> 0:30:21.280
<v Speaker 3>a speed that would hardly break an egg, and the

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<v Speaker 3>kid was fine.

0:30:23.240 --> 0:30:24.840
<v Speaker 1>Put a human driver behind that wheel.

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<v Speaker 3>The headline ought to be way Mo saves child's life

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<v Speaker 3>in situation where a human driver would have killed the child.

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<v Speaker 1>Long headline, you see my point. If the human hit

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<v Speaker 1>the brakes at all, might have been checking your uh,

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<v Speaker 1>what's the next song on my phone? Oh boy, kid's dead? Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>To present it, yeah, exactly. They had videos last night.

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<v Speaker 1>We've all seen the videos. There's a way Mo going

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<v Speaker 1>the wrong way down a one way street, and I thought, yeah,

0:30:49.920 --> 0:30:52.320
<v Speaker 1>I've done that, everybody's done that. So but this makes

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<v Speaker 1>the evening news. I don't probably. I just wonder how.

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<v Speaker 1>I just want if we have the structure to allow

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<v Speaker 1>that to happen. The self driving car, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. I use mine every single day. It's

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<v Speaker 1>it's and I never thought I wanted it or needed it,

0:31:10.560 --> 0:31:12.920
<v Speaker 1>and now that I have it, I use it every day. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm kind of jealous of that, honestly.

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<v Speaker 3>So quick on air meeting, I've got too many tabs open.

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<v Speaker 1>Is it likely we're going to get back to the.

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<v Speaker 3>French guy who was in the hospital with a World

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<v Speaker 3>War One artillery shell in his rectum. No, because if not,

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<v Speaker 3>I will go ahead and close that tab.

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<v Speaker 1>Twenty four year old frenchman and it didn't explode on.

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<v Speaker 3>Him, no, sir, but they had to close the hospital

0:31:37.240 --> 0:31:40.480
<v Speaker 3>because he had well. I think I mentioned an unexploded

0:31:40.520 --> 0:31:43.200
<v Speaker 3>eight inch long World War One artillery shell.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't remember having the length.

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<v Speaker 3>I think I may have left that out the initial

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<v Speaker 3>chat of the story, and I apologize for it. I

0:31:49.720 --> 0:31:52.360
<v Speaker 3>feel like I wouldn't have forgotten that well, and the

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<v Speaker 3>picture of it well, I'm not sure.

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<v Speaker 1>This we know if it was British, German or French.

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<v Speaker 3>It doesn't say probably German, as the Germans used the

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<v Speaker 3>French quite effectively.

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<v Speaker 1>There for a while here, what you're gonna hear? What

0:32:07.560 --> 0:32:10.880
<v Speaker 1>you're suggesting? All right? I do want to get to

0:32:10.880 --> 0:32:12.440
<v Speaker 1>that definition of social isn't it been a bunch of other

0:32:12.440 --> 0:32:17.920
<v Speaker 1>stuff we got coming up? Stay here? So I came

0:32:17.960 --> 0:32:20.920
<v Speaker 1>across this explanation of socialism. It was an old YouTube

0:32:20.960 --> 0:32:23.040
<v Speaker 1>video from black and white from way back in the

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<v Speaker 1>day from this guy Bertrand Russell, who I've heard of

0:32:25.600 --> 0:32:28.440
<v Speaker 1>but didn't know that much about. He's a very famous philosopher,

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<v Speaker 1>one of the most important philosophers of the twentieth century.

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<v Speaker 1>Born in eighteen seventy two, so I mean, that's how

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<v Speaker 1>far it goes back. He lived almost one hundred years,

0:32:36.080 --> 0:32:38.280
<v Speaker 1>so there were, you know, YouTube videos of him in

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<v Speaker 1>the fifty sixties and seventies. Obviously kind of a wacky guy.

0:32:43.280 --> 0:32:45.240
<v Speaker 1>He was a pacifist. I'm always amazed by how many

0:32:45.240 --> 0:32:47.200
<v Speaker 1>super smart people are passifists, because it seems like the

0:32:47.200 --> 0:32:50.800
<v Speaker 1>odd ideology but nit wit to me, but it doesn't

0:32:50.800 --> 0:32:54.240
<v Speaker 1>make any sense, and other things. But anyway he went.

0:32:54.760 --> 0:32:56.640
<v Speaker 1>He thought communism seemed like a good idea, and so

0:32:56.680 --> 0:32:59.240
<v Speaker 1>he went over to the Soviet Union. He was very old, remember,

0:32:59.440 --> 0:33:00.760
<v Speaker 1>so back in the hey. He went over and he

0:33:00.800 --> 0:33:03.360
<v Speaker 1>met Lenin and talked to him everything like that. And

0:33:03.400 --> 0:33:04.680
<v Speaker 1>he was in the Soviet Union and he saw it

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<v Speaker 1>in practiced and thought this is awful and figured out

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<v Speaker 1>what it is. And Marx himself, he said, was not

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<v Speaker 1>inspired by kindly feeling. That's the way it's always presented Marxism.

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<v Speaker 1>It's to help the lower classes. Marx and people who

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<v Speaker 1>believe in it pretend that they want the happiness of

0:33:26.280 --> 0:33:30.880
<v Speaker 1>the proletariat. What they really want is the unhappiness of

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<v Speaker 1>the bourgeois. Ah. And that is the best explanation I've

0:33:35.200 --> 0:33:38.000
<v Speaker 1>ever heard of what's going on there. They presented as

0:33:38.040 --> 0:33:40.680
<v Speaker 1>Mumdanni's like that. They presented as like, no, I want

0:33:40.680 --> 0:33:42.600
<v Speaker 1>to help the downtroden. Know what I want to do

0:33:42.720 --> 0:33:44.120
<v Speaker 1>is I want to stick it to the people who've

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<v Speaker 1>got something that they're They're driven by their anger toward

0:33:48.320 --> 0:33:51.200
<v Speaker 1>the people who have been successful and a stuff right

0:33:51.720 --> 0:33:55.120
<v Speaker 1>more than they are by helping the lower classes, which

0:33:55.120 --> 0:33:57.400
<v Speaker 1>helps me explains a lot of the policies that you think, well,

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<v Speaker 1>how is that going to help the lower class. It's not.

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<v Speaker 1>They just want to stick it to the rich.

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<v Speaker 3>Including the interesting and twisted children of wealth, who turned

0:34:08.280 --> 0:34:11.880
<v Speaker 3>to these philosophies and advocates, sometimes violently for them. Is

0:34:12.200 --> 0:34:15.920
<v Speaker 3>at Tybee brilliantly phrased at the upper class twits promoting

0:34:16.000 --> 0:34:17.600
<v Speaker 3>revolution period.

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<v Speaker 1>Bertrand Russell met Lenin and was disturbed. What he saw

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<v Speaker 1>is the Bolsheviks willingness to use cruelty and deception to

0:34:24.000 --> 0:34:27.000
<v Speaker 1>maintain power. He wrote a famous book called The Practice

0:34:27.000 --> 0:34:31.239
<v Speaker 1>and Theory of Bolshevism that it always will lead to

0:34:31.280 --> 0:34:35.799
<v Speaker 1>authoritarian rule ding blah blah blah, and he said. He

0:34:35.840 --> 0:34:40.520
<v Speaker 1>criticized Marxist theory of the state withering away, You'll no

0:34:40.640 --> 0:34:43.000
<v Speaker 1>longer have a state and we'll be free as unrealistic,

0:34:43.120 --> 0:34:46.040
<v Speaker 1>arguing that concentrating power in the hands of a revolutionary

0:34:46.120 --> 0:34:50.439
<v Speaker 1>vanguard will lead to tyranny rather than liberation. Obviously, ding,

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<v Speaker 1>who's going to enforce this? Somebody?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, Well, and with the state and control of everything,

0:34:58.640 --> 0:35:02.279
<v Speaker 3>the state's control apparatus, it has got to be super muscular.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. Obviously, that really hit me as like

0:35:04.880 --> 0:35:07.399
<v Speaker 1>made sense, though, because I've never quite understood how you're

0:35:07.480 --> 0:35:12.759
<v Speaker 1>so motivated to because your anger at the successful, that's

0:35:12.760 --> 0:35:16.040
<v Speaker 1>what motivates you. Where does that come from? And that

0:35:16.560 --> 0:35:22.360
<v Speaker 1>I don't get, but it's clearly the case. Where does

0:35:22.440 --> 0:35:23.960
<v Speaker 1>it come from in general? And where does it come

0:35:23.960 --> 0:35:26.759
<v Speaker 1>from in the rich kids. That's why tax the billionaires

0:35:26.840 --> 0:35:29.040
<v Speaker 1>or all those sorts of things work so well. Even

0:35:29.080 --> 0:35:30.600
<v Speaker 1>if it doesn't help you a bit, it's just at

0:35:30.680 --> 0:35:34.400
<v Speaker 1>least they got the ldures I hate those people are successful.

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<v Speaker 2>We will replace the frigidity of rugged individualism with the

0:35:38.520 --> 0:35:39.839
<v Speaker 2>warmth of collectivism.

0:35:40.000 --> 0:35:44.239
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, oh yes, that'll work this time. Socialism sucks. It's

0:35:44.239 --> 0:35:46.680
<v Speaker 3>always miserable, it always fails, and it always ends up

0:35:46.800 --> 0:35:51.560
<v Speaker 3>in tyranny, and yet many young people are attracted to it.

0:35:51.560 --> 0:35:56.400
<v Speaker 3>Could it be because neuroscientists have revealed gen zers are

0:35:56.440 --> 0:35:59.040
<v Speaker 3>the first generation since records began to be kept, to

0:35:59.040 --> 0:36:00.840
<v Speaker 3>be less intelligent than their parents.

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<v Speaker 1>Have to get into this in hour four, How is

0:36:05.040 --> 0:36:07.240
<v Speaker 1>that possible with modern nutrition and everything.

0:36:07.280 --> 0:36:10.080
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0:36:10.320 --> 0:36:15.800
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0:36:15.800 --> 0:36:19.000
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