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Speaker 2: de Sager just told you, the Green Bay Packers just

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Speaker 2: missed a field goal as we were coming on air,

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Speaker 2: would have made the score twenty one two seventeen. Packers

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Speaker 2: still though our twenty four to seventeen. Excuse me, Packers

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Speaker 2: still have a four point lead nine minutes to go

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Speaker 2: fourth quarter over the San Francisco forty nine ers. Jason Martin,

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Speaker 2: do you have your brock party takes hot, heavy and

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Speaker 2: ready to go?

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Speaker 3: What's going on?

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Speaker 4: Man?

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Speaker 3: How you doing?

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Speaker 5: Man?

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Speaker 6: This is quite a game. It just I'm doing well.

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Speaker 6: It's cold here, but man, red hot out there. It's

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Speaker 6: the weather hasn't been great, certainly, but this is just

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Speaker 6: a heavyweight fight between two really good football teams. There's

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Speaker 6: definitely flaws on both sides, and we have seen those blemishes.

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Speaker 6: In answer, to your question, No, I don't have those

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Speaker 6: hot takes. I think those hot takes need to be

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Speaker 6: just thrown away. The highs and lows. Whatever you want

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Speaker 6: to say about him being MVP, whatever you want to

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Speaker 6: say about him being out of the league, it's all ridiculous.

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Speaker 6: Anybody can have a bad game. He hadn't had a

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Speaker 6: great game. He hasn't made a couple of throws, certainly

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Speaker 6: in this game, a couple that you wouldn't have expected

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Speaker 6: necessarily him to complete. He's missed a few as well.

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Speaker 6: This is again just going to because of where he

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Speaker 6: was drafted. I've said this before, because of where he

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Speaker 6: was drafted, anytime he has a bad game, it's going

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Speaker 6: to be the I told you so. He's not an

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Speaker 6: NFL quarterback, and that's ridiculous. He's also not Lamar Jackson.

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Speaker 6: He's not Patrick Mahomes, he's not Josh Allen. He's not

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Speaker 6: one of those He's not CJ. Stroud, He's not one

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Speaker 6: of those guys. He's a guy that fits in an offense,

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Speaker 6: that goes and does what he's asked to do. And

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Speaker 6: at times that's really really good and at times.

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Speaker 5: It's just enough.

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Speaker 6: And we'll see whether or not it's one of those,

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Speaker 6: or if it's the other one, which is occasionally you

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Speaker 6: need to go win a game, and he's not really

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Speaker 6: the guy to go do that either. But I don't

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Speaker 6: think I think the hot takes are I just think

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Speaker 6: they expose rash thinking. I think there is nuance to

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Speaker 6: brock Party. I think brock Party is a test case

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Speaker 6: of why nuance matters and should matter in all kinds

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Speaker 6: of discourse.

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Speaker 2: Twenty one to seventeen is the score. San Francisco does

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Speaker 2: have the ball under six minutes to go. Now, second

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Speaker 2: and three. Let's talk about this really quick. So you

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Speaker 2: say nuance matters, and I agree, what about nuance like?

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Speaker 2: And we're gonna have three hours to talk about this.

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Speaker 2: And for the record, San Francisco could come back and win.

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Speaker 2: It is third and one. Should reference also as the

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Speaker 2: Segre just told you Baltimore won the early game thirty

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Speaker 2: four to ten. Well, have plenty of real to that.

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Speaker 2: When you say nuance matters with brock Purty, go ahead

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Speaker 2: and give that explanation for the audience that isn't able

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Speaker 2: to watch this game right now.

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Speaker 6: He's gonna make some throws and miss some throws. He

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Speaker 6: made an incredible throw to Juwan Jennings on a third

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Speaker 6: down while he was under pressure and got knocked down,

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Speaker 6: and then he has, you know, shot the ball over

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Speaker 6: a couple of receivers in this game. He's been off tonight.

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Speaker 5: With the receivers the way he like.

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Speaker 6: You've seen him in synergy and you've seen him really

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Speaker 6: in rhythm. I haven't felt like he's been in rhythm.

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Speaker 6: And I think some of the credit to that needs

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Speaker 6: to go to Green Bays defense that has stepped up

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Speaker 6: over the past couple of weeks and shown their medal,

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Speaker 6: But it's just an offense that it hasn't felt like

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Speaker 6: it's been fully in sync. They've had a couple of

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Speaker 6: weeks off. Sometimes that can be an issue for a

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Speaker 6: number one seed. But Brock Purty is a guy that

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Speaker 6: sometimes makes some spectacular things happen, but sometimes he doesn't.

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Speaker 6: He can go have a bad game here and there,

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Speaker 6: and he certainly can have a spot where he's just

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Speaker 6: just kind of out there. But he's not somebody's gonna

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Speaker 6: think that I think it's crazy to overreact to anything

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Speaker 6: he does, and just look at Kyle Shanahan's system and

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Speaker 6: I think it's a disservice to brock Purty not to

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Speaker 6: see what he does right and see what he does

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Speaker 6: wrong and understand that there's a balance there as opposed

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Speaker 6: to he's trash. I told you so because he was

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Speaker 6: drafted last and not in the first round, or man,

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Speaker 6: he's an MVP candidate. I don't think that was ever

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Speaker 6: something that needed to be talked about. But I also

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Speaker 6: think that I told you so's need to go away.

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Speaker 2: Well, and I think a lot of the context that

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Speaker 2: you didn't hit on. For First of all, we just

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Speaker 2: had a drop right at midfield that would have been

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Speaker 2: first down. Hit George Kittle in the hands. So that's

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Speaker 2: nuanced number one, nuance number two. Deebo Samuel is out

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Speaker 2: for the game. He went out early with a head injury.

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Speaker 2: I did not see. He did come back in, but

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Speaker 2: I believe Jason Craig if I'm wrong, he left, is it?

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Speaker 2: I assume it was the head injury that he went out.

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Speaker 6: He went out twice, yes, and then they finally ruled

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Speaker 6: him out in the third quarter, but he was ineffective

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Speaker 6: when he came back the first time.

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Speaker 2: Well, and I think these are the nuanced things that matter.

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Speaker 2: And again we'll have the next three hours to talk

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Speaker 2: about it. But no, Deebo Samuel, I think it's important.

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Speaker 2: The offensive line has not played well tonight. You know,

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Speaker 2: he keeps getting hit in the pocket. By the way,

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Speaker 2: he does complete the first down with a very nice

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Speaker 5: I you are way ahead of me. It's kind of credible.

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Speaker 5: I just saw the kiddle drop.

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Speaker 2: Okay, well, live here. I apologize. We are in the

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Speaker 2: future where it lives wild. It looks like there is

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Speaker 2: a first down, by the way, really quickly. We need

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Speaker 2: to get get focused. Here are everything, Okay, Nashville and

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Speaker 2: Tennessee has been hit by whether day after day. I

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Speaker 2: heard our buddy Klay Travis say he basically hasn't left

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Speaker 3: Everything okay there, Okay.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean it's as okay as it can be,

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Speaker 6: just being as cold as it's been like.

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Speaker 5: I haven't left either.

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Speaker 6: I left once because there was a health issue of

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Speaker 6: it's an ice sheet. Basically, you skate if you leave

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Speaker 6: and figuratively, it's just been it's definitely been one of

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Speaker 6: those it feels very cabin feverish. Let's say that my

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Speaker 5: But yeah, we're okay.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, So first of all, I'm glad to hear that.

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Speaker 2: You know, I have a lot of friends in that

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Speaker 2: And for people don't know, a lot of ice, a

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Speaker 2: by the way, in this game, back to back first

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Speaker 2: downs for San Francisco, they are i want to say,

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Speaker 6: They'd be pretty close based on the catch I just

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Speaker 6: I mean they're moving the ball and then with three minutes left,

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Speaker 6: I mean this can still very much end with a

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so they are actually just inside the twenty, so

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Speaker 2: they're in the red zone. They're down four, so being

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Speaker 2: in field goal range really doesn't matter. Although they do

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Speaker 2: twenty one to seventeen, and so we'll see what happens, Jason.

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Speaker 2: But I think all of the nuance that we said

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Speaker 2: mattered is one Deebo Samuel has been banged up. He's out,

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Speaker 2: and he has been out for most of the second half,

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Speaker 2: completely out in street clothes.

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Speaker 3: Too.

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Speaker 2: The offensive line has not played very well. And I'll

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Speaker 2: say this too, I think this is important to know.

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Speaker 2: And by the way, this isn't going to be for

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Speaker 2: people who are anti rock party. If San Francisco does lose,

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Speaker 2: and even if, by the way, they come back and win,

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Speaker 2: this isn't gonna be a three hour brock Party excuse fest.

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Speaker 6: No, not at all.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but our job is to contextualize things for people

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Speaker 2: who are in cars, are driving, are at work, that

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Speaker 2: would say is, depending on what happened, we have hit

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Speaker 2: the two minute warning, green Bay is in the red zone.

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Speaker 2: They trail by four, twenty one to seventeen. If San

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Speaker 2: a joint team effort.

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Speaker 3: If they do lose.

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Speaker 2: As I said Deebo Samuel, You're obviously not gonna blame

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Speaker 2: of the second half. The offensive line has not been good.

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Speaker 2: And then I think the other thing is the Green

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Speaker 2: excuse me, the San Francisco defense, which has obviously been

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Speaker 2: elite all season long. One hundred and thirty six yards

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Speaker 2: rushing allowed, five yards per carry. You know, Jordan Love,

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Speaker 2: You know, I think we as a society, we're so

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Speaker 2: quick to just rush to everything. Jordan Love has been good.

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Speaker 2: I don't know that he's been great, but Jordan Love's

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Speaker 2: been good. Really, it's been the run game that has

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Speaker 2: been really effective for Green Bay. As we said, we

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Speaker 2: just crossed the two minute warning here, but that's the

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Speaker 2: bigger picture, Jason is whatever result it is, I think

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Speaker 2: you could say that I don't think San Francisco has

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Speaker 2: been great in any one spot. Offensive line, defense, run game,

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Speaker 2: pass game, and we'll see what happens here. Is that

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Speaker 2: as we are, as I said at the two minute warning,

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Speaker 2: San Francisco trying to take the lead trailing twenty one

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean that's right.

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Speaker 6: The defensive point is certainly accurate. And look, this is

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Speaker 6: a defense that you talked about Jordan Love tonight. Jordan

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Speaker 6: Love has been fine.

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Speaker 5: He's he's been fine.

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Speaker 6: He hasn't he's made one mistake, but he threw two

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Speaker 5: Last week he was great against the.

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Speaker 6: Dallas defense that was highly touted. So I think the

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Speaker 6: biggest winner, and one of the guys whose stock has

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Speaker 2: So the right before we went to break, the San

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Speaker 2: San Francisco will advance to their fourth NFC Championship game

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Speaker 3: San Francisco survived.

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Speaker 2: Jason first initial reaction, it's so fun being on it

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Speaker 5: They didn't play their best tonight. They didn't.

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Speaker 6: We talked about it, We laid that out. The offensive

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Speaker 2: Let's start from the San Francisco perspective. We can get

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Speaker 3: Well.

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Speaker 2: Two things, One, he made the plays when he absolutely

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Speaker 2: Whoever, I can't see j Stroud, Nobody blames him. Nobody

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Speaker 3: For this game.

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Speaker 2: But you find a way to advance, you find a

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Speaker 6: Jason, Yeah, and right, Yeah. Nobody played particularly well tonight

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Speaker 5: To know that.

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Speaker 6: But that might be the mentality that he plays with

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Speaker 6: And that's there's a lot there, but for San Francisco

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Speaker 6: the argument that you were making, I mean that goes

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Speaker 6: NFL, you're in the NFL. If you're one of the

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Speaker 6: starters in the NFL. There's a reason for it. So

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Speaker 6: I think that you need to start evaluating him on

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Speaker 6: a different plane and not live on the prejudices of

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Speaker 6: the past based on where they were drafted.

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Speaker 2: Don't disagree, but I will ask you as a quick

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Speaker 2: follow up, does this concern you?

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Speaker 7: All?

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Speaker 6: I mean?

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Speaker 2: And the reason I ask is obviously, look, even though

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Speaker 2: you find a way to win, and again it is

445
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Speaker 2: worth noting for people who weren't watching the game, brock

446
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Speaker 2: Perdy on that final drive delivered. Now, yeah, he delivered

447
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Speaker 2: a pair of first down throws, one on a third

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Speaker 2: and long in a situation where George Kittle had just

449
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Speaker 2: dropped a pass right before it finished, just twenty two

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Speaker 2: twenty three of thirty nine two hundred and fifty two yards.

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Speaker 2: So far from a perfect performance from him. I guess

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Speaker 2: the only question I would have is do you worry

453
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Speaker 2: at all whether it's him or the team going forward?

454
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Speaker 2: Obviously you're gonna you know, listen, I don't want to

455
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Speaker 2: get too far ahead of ourselves, but it looks as

456
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Speaker 2: though you will likely play a Detroit team that's really

457
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Speaker 2: good at the line of scrimmage, you know, really kind

458
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Speaker 2: of fast, aggressive defense and then obviously, you know, could

459
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Speaker 2: potentially face a Baltimore team that gave you fits about

460
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Speaker 2: three weeks ago on Christmas Day. Does the performance at

461
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Speaker 2: all worry you or is it just you know, just

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Speaker 2: survive in advance and better for next week.

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Speaker 6: I mean I do think that you have to you

464
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Speaker 6: have to evaluate what happened. I mean, Perdy did not

465
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Speaker 6: play well, the team didn't play well. You can certainly

466
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Speaker 6: take it apart, and you have to be better, Like

467
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Speaker 6: you can't expect to walk in with that effort week

468
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Speaker 6: after week, especially in January and advance. So no, you

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Speaker 6: can't be complacent about it. I think this is one

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Speaker 6: where you wipe your brow and you go, whew, man,

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Speaker 6: I don't know how, but we pulled that one off.

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Speaker 6: And then you move on and you go back to

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Speaker 6: playing the best version of San Francisco forty nine ers

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Speaker 6: football that you can because you still have the opportunity

475
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Speaker 6: to keep playing. If you put that effort out there

476
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Speaker 6: next week, you know eventually that's going to bite you.

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Speaker 6: But yeah, to answer your question, you absolutely can be

478
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Speaker 6: and should be concerned with what you saw even though

479
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Speaker 6: you got the win, because I think at the back

480
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Speaker 6: of their minds, especially as they watch the tape, they'll

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Speaker 6: realize it's possible Green Bay lost this thing more than

482
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Speaker 6: we won it. But ultimately it doesn't like it doesn't matter,

483
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Speaker 6: like you can talk about, well, actually the Packers outplayed them,

484
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Speaker 6: Well who cares? I know what the scoreboard says at

485
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Speaker 6: the end. That's the only thing that is relevant whatsoever

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Speaker 6: in this situation. And really that goes for Party too,

487
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Speaker 6: because the lasting impression of the game is Party being

488
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Speaker 6: at the head of that drive that gave them the

489
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Speaker 6: lead with barely enough time left to do anything and

490
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Speaker 6: led to that final turnover. So the whole thing it

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Speaker 6: comes down to what the scoreboard says, and the scoreboard says.

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Speaker 6: The forty nine ers are playing football next week. They

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Speaker 6: won't be happy with the effort. And if they come

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Speaker 6: back with that against the Lions, for example, I think

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Speaker 6: they lose.

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Speaker 3: All right.

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Speaker 2: That is the San Francisco perspective on this game. And obviously, look,

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Speaker 2: we got two and a half more hours. We'll have

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Speaker 2: plenty more on perty in the forty nine ers. Up next, though,

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Speaker 2: we are going to talk about the Packers. Glasses have

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Speaker 2: full You know the future is bright, or did you

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Speaker 2: let this game get away. We'll discuss that next before

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Speaker 2: we do, though, first time this evening, Steve de Sager,

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Speaker 2: what is trending at eleven thirty two Eastern time to saga.

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Speaker 8: This great playoff game, that's what's trending, And you're right

506
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Speaker 8: on both counts. It seems very much like Green Bay

507
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Speaker 8: lost this game and San Francisco is going to be

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Speaker 8: hosting the NFC title game, and that's that. They're thirteen

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Speaker 8: to five now this season. But the Packers, the last

510
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Speaker 8: team into the postseason this year, did this in this

511
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Speaker 8: playoff Tonight punted only one time, had only one penalty

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Speaker 8: their first three drives Tonight at San Francisco got into

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Speaker 8: the red zone each time during the game, took the

514
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Speaker 8: lead three different times, and lost and the season is over.

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Speaker 8: Niners twenty four twenty one the final. San Francisco led

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Speaker 8: at halftime seven to six, green Bay ten and nine

517
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Speaker 8: to finish up. Well, we had that stat that got

518
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Speaker 8: talked about more than once on the broadcast, more than

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Speaker 8: once on the previous show. Here the forty nine Ers

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Speaker 8: under Kyle Shanahan were winless when down by five points

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Speaker 8: or more going into.

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Speaker 3: A fourth quarter.

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Speaker 8: Oh and thirty, and yet they came back and won

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Speaker 8: this one. Christian McCaffrey two touchdown runs in the second half,

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Speaker 8: including the game winner with one oh seven to go.

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Speaker 8: He had seventeen carries ninety eight yards on the ground.

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Speaker 8: So Shanahan now head ahead against Battle of four keeps

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Speaker 8: beating him three to zero in the playoffs. That already

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Speaker 8: ties the playoff record most wins without a loss against

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Speaker 8: a single coach, And we can update a stat we

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Speaker 8: talked about on last Sunday night show here on Fox

532
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Speaker 8: Sports Radio, most playoff wins in NFL history. Granted there

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Speaker 8: are more rounds, for example, these days, but the forty

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Speaker 8: nine Ers franchise is now tied for first thirty seven

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Speaker 8: playoff wins all time. Packers still with thirty seven, Patriots

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Speaker 8: thirty seven, Cowboys still have thirty six, Steelers still have

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Speaker 8: thirty six. So the Niners are yet again in the

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Speaker 8: NFC Championship game. In fact, they are the first team

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Speaker 8: to make three straight NFC title games since they did

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Speaker 8: it with Jim Harbaughs coach a decade ago. That'll be

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Speaker 8: on Fox TV the final Sunday in January. No more

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Speaker 8: rain in San Francisco than NFC Championship game Niners hosting.

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Speaker 8: We'll find out six thirty pm Eastern Time Sunday, January

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Speaker 8: twenty eighth on Fox TV. Detroit hosts Tampa Bay tomorrow

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Speaker 8: three pm Eastern time, and there's an AFC game tomorrow

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Speaker 8: night Sunday six thirty pm. Buffalo will host Kansas City.

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Speaker 8: Temperature under twenty five degrees for that game in Baltimore

548
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Speaker 8: today twenty seven degrees. Ravens eliminated Houston thirty four to ten.

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Speaker 8: That game was tied ten ten at the half. Lamar

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Speaker 8: Jackson two touchdown passes, two touchdown runs. Better weather next

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Speaker 8: weekend in Baltimore as well. They'll have the early game Sunday.

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Speaker 8: The twenty eighth AFC Championship will start at three pm

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Speaker 8: Eastern time that day. By the way, a note about Buffalo.

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Speaker 8: The Bills cut punter Matt Hawk today from the practice squad,

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Speaker 8: so I guess the regular punter Sam Martin's okay with

556
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Speaker 8: the hamstring. He was listed as questionable. In college basketball,

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Speaker 8: Number one Yukon played a thriller on FS one, winning

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Speaker 8: by a point at Villanova sixty six to sixty five.

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Speaker 8: West Virginia beat number three Kansas ninety one eighty five

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Speaker 8: Pittsburgh Tonight got a win at number seven Duke eighty

561
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Speaker 8: to seventy six Texas on a basket at the buzzer edge.

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Speaker 8: Number nine Baylor seventy five to seventy three In the NHL,

563
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Speaker 8: Boston at home nine to four over Montreal, and the

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Speaker 8: Edmonton Oilers have won twelve straight. They're tied late second

565
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Speaker 8: period at Calgary one one Ravens and forty Niners. Your

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Speaker 8: playoff winners for this Saturday. Two more games in the

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Speaker 8: divisional round tomorrow.

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Speaker 2: Back to you, Thank you very much, Steve Seger, Fox

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Speaker 2: Sports Radio, Fox Sports Saturday, and Fox Football Live as well.

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Speaker 2: look at things from the other perspective again. For people

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Speaker 2: just joining us, As the Segre just told you, San Francisco,

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Speaker 2: the forty nine Ers survived twenty four to twenty one.

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Speaker 3: Is the final score.

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Speaker 2: By the way, Hour two will have plenty of reaction

582
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Speaker 2: to the first game of the day, as Baltimore beats

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Speaker 2: Houston thirty four to ten in that one. But let's

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Speaker 2: stay with this game and let's talk about it from

585
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Speaker 2: the Packers' perspective, because, as the seger said, they did

586
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Speaker 2: have the lead very late into the game. You know,

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Speaker 2: you go ahead and look at the box score. It

588
00:28:37,600 --> 00:28:41,240
Speaker 2: was essentially even in terms of yardage. They ran the

589
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Speaker 2: ball at will. The difference was at the end of

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Speaker 2: the day two second half interceptions for Jordan Love, including

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Speaker 2: one that sealed the game. My question for you, you

592
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Speaker 2: know it's crazy, and I'll add this too. You and

593
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Speaker 2: I haven't been on air since the Dallas game last

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Speaker 2: Sunday where they obviously had that incredible victory at Jerry

595
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Speaker 2: war World. So what do you make of this for

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Speaker 2: the San Francisco for so for the excuse me, for

597
00:29:04,400 --> 00:29:06,720
Speaker 2: the Green Bay Packers now as they get set to

598
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Speaker 2: go into the offseason, San Francisco with the twenty four

599
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Speaker 2: to twenty one win, Jayson, I don't.

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Speaker 6: Believe in windows. But if you do, they have one

601
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Speaker 6: because they have the youngest team in the NFL. You

602
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Speaker 6: see the weapons that are already developed. You see a

603
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Speaker 6: quarterback that looks like he's one of the guys, looks

604
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Speaker 6: like he can play. You've got a still very young

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Speaker 6: head coach who is really coming into his own, especially

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Speaker 6: as a play caller now and is no longer going

607
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Speaker 6: to be kind of in the shadow of a Hall

608
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Speaker 6: of Fame quarterback. You just have a solid organization and

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Speaker 6: I think that you got further already.

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Speaker 5: It was a house moneyish kind of situation.

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Speaker 6: There's a couple of those this year where like the Texans,

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Speaker 6: anybody upset because of what happened there, No because they

613
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Speaker 6: weren't supposed to be play Green Bay. A lot of

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Speaker 6: people thought could have finished last in that division depending

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Speaker 6: on what Jordan Love was going to be, and that's

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Speaker 6: not what you got. You got a heavyweight fight on

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Speaker 6: the road against maybe the best team in the NFL,

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Speaker 6: and you almost pulled it off. I don't think you

619
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Speaker 6: can go away from this with anything negative, apart from

620
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Speaker 6: your rookie kicker is not very good. He missed five

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Speaker 6: extra points during the regular season. He missed six field goals,

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Speaker 6: and he missed a crucial field goal for you in

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Speaker 6: this game late that would have made it a much

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Speaker 6: tougher scenario and probably would have put the thing in overtime,

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Speaker 6: and unfortunately that's not how it goes. So I think

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Speaker 6: that's probably something you got to evaluate. But past that,

627
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Speaker 6: you've got a lot of guys that are playing really

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Speaker 6: good football that can be there for a while, and

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Speaker 6: it's I think it's a net positive. I just feel like,

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Speaker 6: I know that you still want to play, and if

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Speaker 6: you're a Packers fan, you're still sad because you've lost

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Speaker 6: a night. But I think most of them before the

633
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Speaker 6: season didn't see himself being anywhere close to this, So

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Speaker 6: this has to be an optimistic feeling for the Packers.

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Speaker 5: I know it is.

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Speaker 6: For me as a neutral observer on the outside, this

637
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Speaker 6: is this is far better than I thought they had

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Speaker 6: any business being before the season.

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Speaker 2: So I agree on all accounts. And I know what

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Speaker 2: you were just saying there, Jason, I'll take you a

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Speaker 2: step further. I don't even think it was far better

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Speaker 2: than we expected before the season. I mean far better

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Speaker 2: than we expected what at the midway.

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Speaker 3: Point of the season.

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Speaker 2: That's fair, Yeah, like, I remember being on air with

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Speaker 2: Dan Byron Thanksgiving Day and we were coming on either

647
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Speaker 2: right after that game or maybe it was the fourth

648
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Speaker 2: quarter when it was clear they were gonna win. But

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Speaker 2: you're like, oh my goodness, this this team just it

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Speaker 2: felt like it was a moment. And then obviously after

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Speaker 2: that they you know, they had their ups and downs.

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Speaker 2: It really I think it was the combination of the

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Speaker 2: Thanksgiving Day win in Detroit followed by that Sunday night

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Speaker 2: win against Kansas City. But no, I'm with you, man,

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Speaker 2: and you know, I don't like it's interesting on Jordan Love.

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Speaker 2: As a matter of fact, I have a thought on

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Speaker 2: Jordan Love. I'll tell you what. We will come back.

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Speaker 2: We will react to that because there is something on

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Speaker 2: Jordan Love that I want to dive into a little

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Speaker 2: bit deeper. San Francisco does hold on to win twenty

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Speaker 2: four to twenty one, but I think it's just as

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Speaker 2: much of the story as San Francisco's win. Is what

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Speaker 2: Green Bay has shown us over the last two weeks.

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Speaker 2: We'll discuss that next Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 2: Welcome back everybody, Fox Sports Radio, Eric Towards Jason martinbroadcasting

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Speaker 2: live from the Tireck dot Com studios Busy night. Two

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Speaker 2: NFL playoff games are final. In the early one. Baltimore

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Speaker 2: beats Houston thirty four to ten. We will recap that

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Speaker 2: at the top of the next hour. Want to stick

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Speaker 2: with this one, Jason for a minute, because listen, I

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Speaker 2: agree with everything you said before the break is that, listen,

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Speaker 2: anytime your season ends, at least in the playoffs. I mean,

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Speaker 2: if you go three and fourteen, you probably just want

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Speaker 2: your season end. But anytime it ends in the playoffs,

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Speaker 2: it's always tough, and I think Green Bay it's especially

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Speaker 2: tough because this was one of those games like Houston

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Speaker 2: you can kind of hang your head high, like you

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Speaker 2: got the most out of the season whatever, But this

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Speaker 2: is one I think Green Bay fans can legitimately feel

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Speaker 2: like they should have won and did not win. But

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Speaker 2: at the same time, I'm with you is that I

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Speaker 2: don't know how you can't look at this as a

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Speaker 2: positive in terms of all of the young guys that

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Speaker 2: have emerged over the course of the year obviously headlined

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Speaker 2: by Jordan Love. You go across the receiver corps, you know, defense,

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Speaker 2: It's just it's it's it's very exciting.

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Speaker 5: Though.

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Speaker 2: The only thought I really had, and I don't really

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Speaker 2: know if this is a take or whatever, but I

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Speaker 2: was thinking about this, is that Jordan Love is awesome.

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Speaker 3: He also what is this year four for him?

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Speaker 2: As far as you know, you know, sitting behind Aaron Rodgers,

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Speaker 2: I do wonder, like, I understand the idea of getting

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Speaker 2: a guy a rookie contract with superstars around him, and

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Speaker 2: you can kind of build out the roster.

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Speaker 3: I still think more teams.

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Speaker 2: I watched Jordan Love and I watch how much more

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Speaker 2: confident he got over the season. I think a lot

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Speaker 2: of it is a credit to Matt Lafleur. A lot

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Speaker 2: of it is a credit to him as a player.

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Speaker 2: I also wonder, like, how many guys in the last

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Speaker 2: couple of years have we chewed up and spit out

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Speaker 2: that if they got a year or two like in

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Speaker 2: the old days, would have been much more successful than

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Speaker 2: they ended up being. I'm just gonna use a few examples,

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Speaker 2: justin Fields, you know, Zach, you know, justin Fields, who's

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Speaker 2: probably gonna be traded this offseason, Zach Wilson, dah da

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Speaker 2: da dah this, and that some of them would have

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Speaker 2: still been buss. But I just look at Jordan Love

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Speaker 2: and I still think to a degree, that's the blueprint.

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Speaker 2: Look across the league. Patrick Mahomes had plenty of time,

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Speaker 2: Lamar Jackson really didn't start his rookie year. Jordan Love

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Speaker 2: had success tonight. And it's just I just think, I

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Speaker 2: don't know, I know, it was a unique situation. I

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Speaker 2: know you drafted him thinking Aaron Rodgers was on the

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Speaker 2: way out. He has a couple MVP seasons, but that

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Speaker 2: looked like a guy that got confident as the.

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Speaker 5: Year went on.

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Speaker 2: But he was never overwhelmed as a guy that was

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Speaker 2: in his fourth year in the league. It was just

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Speaker 2: something I was thinking about watching that game.

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Speaker 6: So so you were arguing that I just want to.

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Speaker 3: For a little while.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, it was just it was just, I mean, that

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Speaker 6: was the old style.

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Speaker 3: This is that's what I knew and I and I

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Speaker 3: get the notion.

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Speaker 2: And I've talked to all sorts of guys, not only you,

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Speaker 2: but I remember having this conversation with Bucky Brooks at

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Speaker 2: one point where I was like, why don't more teams

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Speaker 2: do the Mahomes let.

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Speaker 3: A guy sit for a year.

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Speaker 2: He's like, well, the rookie contract is so valuable, and

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Speaker 2: I get that, but I just think we rushed so

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Speaker 2: many guys, throw them right into the fire. And it's like,

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Speaker 2: I know, you can't save everybody till year four, that's

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Speaker 2: not realistic.

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Speaker 3: But I look at Jordan Love and like, you know.

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Speaker 2: He was a first round pick, and if he was

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Speaker 2: a first round pick with whoever, he would have been

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Speaker 2: thrown in the fire game one, and he got till

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Speaker 2: year four. Plenty of time was behind a future Hall

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Speaker 2: of Famer. I get that. I get that not every

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Speaker 2: situation as you wait till year four to play a guy,

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Speaker 2: But I do just wonder how many guys' careers would

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Speaker 2: have been different, how many draft picks would have gone differently,

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Speaker 2: if they had a little bit of time and just

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00:36:07,840 --> 00:36:09,760
Speaker 2: weren't thrown into the fire the second they were drafted.

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Speaker 6: Ye's no, yeah, yeah, And there's a reason why it

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00:36:13,120 --> 00:36:16,640
Speaker 6: was done a certain way for a long time. The

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Speaker 6: rookie contract being so valuable, which I like the way

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Speaker 6: that you put that, because it's only valuable, Aaron, if

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00:36:24,239 --> 00:36:27,440
Speaker 6: the player is ready because if he's not it's not

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Speaker 6: worth anything. You might be destroying his confidence. But throwing

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00:36:30,480 --> 00:36:32,759
Speaker 6: him out there, I don't care if you're paying him

760
00:36:32,880 --> 00:36:35,920
Speaker 6: very very little if you're not winning anyway, Like if

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Speaker 6: he's not ready and you don't give him an opportunity

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Speaker 6: to develop, then I don't care. If he's a dollar

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00:36:41,080 --> 00:36:44,600
Speaker 6: for his contract, that's not beneficial to you. You should

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Speaker 6: play him when he is actually going to benefit the

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Speaker 6: football team. That doesn't mean that you don't throw somebody

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Speaker 6: out there and let them, you know, take some lumps,

767
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Speaker 6: but it does mean I do think that for a while,

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Speaker 6: the idea of the Joe Burrow or the Justin Herbert

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Speaker 6: or the Trevor Lawrence or whoever it's going to be

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Speaker 6: that it's like the expectation wasn't. For a long time,

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Speaker 6: it was not these rookie quarterbacks are immediately going to

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Speaker 6: be starters exactly, And now it is. And I don't

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Speaker 6: know that the hit rate is any better than it

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Speaker 6: was then we have seen. I do think because the

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00:37:21,520 --> 00:37:25,040
Speaker 6: college offense and the pro offense has become a lot

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Speaker 6: more similar, Like you don't see a whole lot of

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00:37:27,520 --> 00:37:30,680
Speaker 6: teams running the wishbone in college football anymore, and the

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00:37:30,719 --> 00:37:34,360
Speaker 6: option is not really a thing. So stuff has changed

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Speaker 6: both ways. And so I do think guys are leaving

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00:37:37,560 --> 00:37:41,200
Speaker 6: college and are a little bit more prepared for the

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Speaker 6: game in the NFL. What they have to get used

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Speaker 6: to is the speed and the processing. But and maybe

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Speaker 6: that does lead you to want some of this, But

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Speaker 6: the rookie contract, I don't care what you're paying them

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00:37:52,400 --> 00:37:54,120
Speaker 6: if they're not ready, that's the thing. And so you

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Speaker 6: look at the Jordan Loves, you look at the Patrick Mahomes,

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Speaker 6: You look at the Aaron Rodgers, who you know didn't

788
00:37:59,600 --> 00:38:03,200
Speaker 6: start immediately either. You look at some of these success

789
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Speaker 6: stories and you say, well, what are these guys, what

790
00:38:05,400 --> 00:38:08,759
Speaker 6: do these have in common? Well, we know sitting behind

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Speaker 6: Brett Farr, sitting behind Aaron Rodgers, and being on a

792
00:38:12,080 --> 00:38:15,000
Speaker 6: well run organization with a solid head coach. But think

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Speaker 6: about the Mahomes experiment, particularly so he sat behind Alex Smith.

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00:38:19,239 --> 00:38:21,920
Speaker 6: Why did he sit behind Alex Smith? Well, two reasons.

795
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Speaker 6: One they were going to ease him in, and two

796
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Speaker 6: Alex Smith was perfect for him because Alex Smith did

797
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Speaker 6: not possess the arm, he did not possess the talent

798
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Speaker 6: like just as a pure passer he was not Patrick Mahomes.

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Speaker 6: Patrick Mahomes had the tangible stuff, but what Alex Smith

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Speaker 6: and our colleague Jeff.

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Speaker 5: Schwartz is the first one that alerted me to this

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00:38:43,640 --> 00:38:44,040
Speaker 5: years ago.

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Speaker 6: And of course his brother Mitchell played with Kansas City

804
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Speaker 6: for his whole career and he said, Look, the thing

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Speaker 6: about Alex Smith that makes you love Alex Smith is

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Speaker 6: that Alex Smith to stay in the league after at

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Speaker 6: one point being the overall number one pick for the

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Speaker 6: forty nine ers and it just not working out. Alex

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Speaker 6: Smith had to learn how to be a quarterback. He

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Speaker 6: had to learn the playbook, he had to get good

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Speaker 6: at the intangibles. He had to work on his leadership.

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Speaker 6: He had to understand defenses and be able to read faster,

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00:39:14,480 --> 00:39:17,600
Speaker 6: understand everything that his coaches were looking for so that

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Speaker 6: he could stay relevant because he didn't have all of

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Speaker 6: the talent in the world. So imagine if you take

816
00:39:24,120 --> 00:39:27,880
Speaker 6: the skill set of Patrick Mahomes and then let someone

817
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Speaker 6: as humble but also as football intelligent because he had

818
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Speaker 6: to be as Alex Smith, be the guy that then

819
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Speaker 6: brings him along.

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Speaker 5: You know what you get out of that, a.

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Speaker 6: Multi time NFL MVP who's won multiple Super Bowls already

822
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Speaker 6: in his career.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and I'm just looking across really quick, right. And

824
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Speaker 2: by the way, there's a lot of examples just like

825
00:39:48,040 --> 00:39:51,759
Speaker 2: that tomorrow. How about that Tampa Detroit game where it's

826
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Speaker 2: like two guys that were thrown into the fire early.

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Speaker 2: You know, Goff just probably wasn't ready. I don't know

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Speaker 2: if you could say he wasn't ready, because you know,

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Speaker 2: some of his best football was as a rookie.

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Speaker 3: But it took him two or three stops.

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Speaker 2: And then you look at Mahomes had a year, Lamar

832
00:40:10,239 --> 00:40:14,480
Speaker 2: basically had a year. Uh, Jalen Hurts just because of

833
00:40:14,600 --> 00:40:17,839
Speaker 2: draft position really wasn't asked to start until his second

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Speaker 2: or third year. So I don't it was just something

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Speaker 2: I was thinking about. Is I love Jordan Love And

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Speaker 2: by the way, credit to him. I hope this doesn't

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Speaker 2: come off as I'm disrespecting him, or I don't believe

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Speaker 2: in him, or I'm.

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Speaker 2: into the San Francisco forty nine ers victory over the

847
00:41:07,440 --> 00:41:10,759
Speaker 2: Green Bay Packers. Twenty four to twenty one was the

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Speaker 2: score in San Francisco. We'll get back to that game momentarily, Jason,

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Speaker 2: But do want to go ahead and do you want

850
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Speaker 2: to go ahead and get to the first game of

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Speaker 2: the night, which, of course was the Baltimore Ravens, the

852
00:41:25,760 --> 00:41:28,600
Speaker 2: other one seed of course in the AFC, taking on

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Speaker 2: the Houston Texans. I don't know what there really is

854
00:41:34,239 --> 00:41:38,839
Speaker 2: to say here. Baltimore wins thirty four to ten, and

855
00:41:39,640 --> 00:41:41,920
Speaker 2: you know, listen, it was close for about a half.

856
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Speaker 2: It was kind of shaping up to be. At first

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00:41:45,040 --> 00:41:47,760
Speaker 2: you kind of thought, is this another weird Lamar Jackson

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00:41:47,840 --> 00:41:50,480
Speaker 2: playoff game? You know, they were struggling, they weren't really

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Speaker 2: moving the ball. And then you know, I don't really

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Speaker 2: know what else there is to add, Like they just

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Speaker 2: wore down the Houston Texans in the second half.

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Speaker 3: I got a cuple things go ahead, laid on me

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Speaker 3: all the four jors.

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Speaker 6: This game turned twice it felt like Baltimore was playing

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Speaker 6: well early and then you had the big punt return

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Speaker 6: for touchdown yes for Houston, and then late in the half,

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Speaker 6: after Houston's defense had kind of steimied lebar a few times,

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Speaker 6: you had Stroud and Nico Collins connect a couple of

869
00:42:24,480 --> 00:42:27,040
Speaker 6: times they get down the field. I think Schultz dropped

870
00:42:27,040 --> 00:42:29,360
Speaker 6: a pass, but then he caught the next one, similar

871
00:42:29,440 --> 00:42:31,920
Speaker 6: to the Kittle play in the second game where they

872
00:42:31,920 --> 00:42:34,120
Speaker 6: got the first down. Right after that, you get in

873
00:42:34,200 --> 00:42:36,000
Speaker 6: position for a field goal that would give you a

874
00:42:36,040 --> 00:42:38,920
Speaker 6: three point lead, likely going into the half. I think

875
00:42:38,920 --> 00:42:41,400
Speaker 6: there was about forty seconds left afterwards, and fair Burron

876
00:42:41,840 --> 00:42:45,600
Speaker 6: misses it. I think the momentum changed twice. I felt

877
00:42:45,640 --> 00:42:49,080
Speaker 6: like Houston came alive after the punt return, and then

878
00:42:49,200 --> 00:42:51,480
Speaker 6: if you go to the half thirteen to ten, I

879
00:42:51,560 --> 00:42:54,319
Speaker 6: just feel like there's a different feeling. But instead, you

880
00:42:54,360 --> 00:42:58,000
Speaker 6: felt like you left points on the board against a

881
00:42:58,040 --> 00:43:01,040
Speaker 6: team you really can't afford to do that against, because,

882
00:43:01,080 --> 00:43:03,080
Speaker 6: for one thing, you know their kicker is never going

883
00:43:03,160 --> 00:43:06,640
Speaker 6: to lead points on the board, and secondarily, you've got

884
00:43:06,680 --> 00:43:08,200
Speaker 6: to find a way to get a lead on Lamar

885
00:43:08,320 --> 00:43:11,680
Speaker 6: Jackson to have any kind of a shot. I felt

886
00:43:11,719 --> 00:43:15,120
Speaker 6: like that was a deflating moment. The second one was

887
00:43:15,120 --> 00:43:19,680
Speaker 6: a deflating moment. And here's my other takeaway quickly, this

888
00:43:19,840 --> 00:43:25,279
Speaker 6: was an incredibly important game for Lamar Jackson. And you

889
00:43:25,640 --> 00:43:29,120
Speaker 6: can look at the futility that he's experienced in the

890
00:43:29,160 --> 00:43:31,640
Speaker 6: playoffs and the way that they've had early exits, and

891
00:43:31,719 --> 00:43:34,160
Speaker 6: he had done nothing for the most part going into

892
00:43:34,160 --> 00:43:37,719
Speaker 6: this season or going into this postseason. In terms of

893
00:43:37,719 --> 00:43:39,920
Speaker 6: what he's done in January, it just hasn't been very impressive.

894
00:43:40,200 --> 00:43:42,239
Speaker 6: And I've long wondered how much of that is him

895
00:43:42,239 --> 00:43:44,719
Speaker 6: and how much of that is Greg Roman. Well, what

896
00:43:44,840 --> 00:43:47,759
Speaker 6: you saw today was four touchdowns from Lamar Jackson, two

897
00:43:47,800 --> 00:43:49,600
Speaker 6: on the ground, two through the air. It wasn't the

898
00:43:49,640 --> 00:43:52,239
Speaker 6: best game I've ever seen him play, but it showcased

899
00:43:52,360 --> 00:43:56,080
Speaker 6: why all of the rigamarole in the offseason last year

900
00:43:56,120 --> 00:43:58,280
Speaker 6: to get him paid was worth it for the Baltimore

901
00:43:58,360 --> 00:44:03,520
Speaker 6: Ravens and then put a masterclass out there defensively and

902
00:44:03,600 --> 00:44:06,919
Speaker 6: really stymied the Texans in the second half. You rode

903
00:44:06,960 --> 00:44:09,560
Speaker 6: that momentum into the second half. But this was about Lamar,

904
00:44:09,760 --> 00:44:12,080
Speaker 6: because the narrative coming out of this was gonna be

905
00:44:12,200 --> 00:44:15,440
Speaker 6: about Lamar Jackson. This was gonna be a passer fail

906
00:44:15,520 --> 00:44:18,640
Speaker 6: on Lamar because it was a playoffs and because that

907
00:44:18,760 --> 00:44:21,400
Speaker 6: had kind of become the story. And he answered a

908
00:44:21,440 --> 00:44:24,399
Speaker 6: lot of critics here because that is why you pay

909
00:44:24,440 --> 00:44:26,480
Speaker 6: the man, and that is why he said he was

910
00:44:26,600 --> 00:44:29,800
Speaker 6: driven this year to win. He knows what this means.

911
00:44:30,200 --> 00:44:32,480
Speaker 6: This means a lot to his legacy. Is he a

912
00:44:32,480 --> 00:44:34,879
Speaker 6: regular season guy or is he somebody that can get

913
00:44:34,880 --> 00:44:38,040
Speaker 6: it done? And what you saw today was you'd better

914
00:44:38,080 --> 00:44:40,880
Speaker 6: strap it on real real tight, put that helmet on,

915
00:44:40,920 --> 00:44:43,240
Speaker 6: real real tight if you're gonna beat Lamar Jackson, because

916
00:44:43,360 --> 00:44:47,759
Speaker 6: quite frankly, they look really good on both sides of

917
00:44:47,760 --> 00:44:49,959
Speaker 6: the ball. And he is bawling right now.

918
00:44:50,520 --> 00:44:53,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that's probably my biggest takeaway as well,

919
00:44:53,480 --> 00:44:56,080
Speaker 2: not so much that, but it's like, you know, first

920
00:44:56,080 --> 00:44:59,799
Speaker 2: of all, I don't really believe and this is like

921
00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:03,880
Speaker 2: maybe one of my craziest takes, Like I don't really believe.

922
00:45:04,200 --> 00:45:09,400
Speaker 2: I believe that the narrative about Lamar Jackson haters is

923
00:45:09,560 --> 00:45:13,640
Speaker 2: much bigger than the amount of actual Lamar Jackson haters,

924
00:45:13,719 --> 00:45:17,120
Speaker 2: Like even people that late into the season said he

925
00:45:17,120 --> 00:45:21,120
Speaker 2: shouldn't be MVP whatever. So you're basically arguing he's like

926
00:45:21,160 --> 00:45:22,919
Speaker 2: the second best player in the league, Like I thought

927
00:45:22,920 --> 00:45:25,479
Speaker 2: it should have been Christian McCaffrey up until probably about

928
00:45:25,560 --> 00:45:28,279
Speaker 2: Christmas night. Yeah, but it wasn't like I ever thought

929
00:45:28,400 --> 00:45:32,240
Speaker 2: Lamar Jackson stunk. And I also thought, for the most part,

930
00:45:32,280 --> 00:45:35,640
Speaker 2: like the playoff stuff was largely overblown. Like you know,

931
00:45:35,960 --> 00:45:38,879
Speaker 2: first year, okay, you know, taking out the rookie year.

932
00:45:38,880 --> 00:45:40,839
Speaker 2: But like the first year, when he wins the MVP,

933
00:45:40,920 --> 00:45:42,600
Speaker 2: they get the one seed, they get upset. Okay, that's

934
00:45:42,600 --> 00:45:45,239
Speaker 2: obviously bad, but he's a super young quarterback, comes back

935
00:45:45,280 --> 00:45:47,640
Speaker 2: the next year, wins a playoff game, then loses a game.

936
00:45:47,440 --> 00:45:48,080
Speaker 3: That he's supposed to.

937
00:45:48,480 --> 00:45:50,360
Speaker 2: This was kind of the year where okay, like and

938
00:45:50,400 --> 00:45:52,680
Speaker 2: we talked about this probably two or three weeks ago

939
00:45:52,840 --> 00:45:55,239
Speaker 2: when they clinched the number one seed. Is this was

940
00:45:55,280 --> 00:45:56,800
Speaker 2: kind of the year. Okay, you gotta do something.

941
00:45:56,960 --> 00:45:58,759
Speaker 3: Is you know.

942
00:45:58,800 --> 00:46:02,760
Speaker 2: Burrows hurt Holmes clearly with the Chiefs is not Mahomes,

943
00:46:02,800 --> 00:46:05,440
Speaker 2: but the Chiefs clearly aren't what they've been. You're gonna

944
00:46:05,440 --> 00:46:07,960
Speaker 2: have home field advantage. Trevor Lawrence was hurt, didn't even

945
00:46:07,960 --> 00:46:09,520
Speaker 2: make the playoffs. Like you go on and on down

946
00:46:09,520 --> 00:46:12,919
Speaker 2: the list. Everything you know, lined up nicely for you,

947
00:46:13,320 --> 00:46:16,640
Speaker 2: But I do feel like the narrative was largely overblown.

948
00:46:17,120 --> 00:46:19,680
Speaker 2: But what I would also say is as far as

949
00:46:19,840 --> 00:46:24,080
Speaker 2: as the Ravens are concerned, I feel like coming out

950
00:46:24,080 --> 00:46:25,880
Speaker 2: of those final few weeks of the season, like, like,

951
00:46:25,920 --> 00:46:29,520
Speaker 2: I'll be honest, I thought that the super casual like

952
00:46:29,960 --> 00:46:32,520
Speaker 2: I don't really know what I'm watching take about the

953
00:46:32,640 --> 00:46:36,279
Speaker 2: Ravens is oh, Lamar Jackson's MVP, and like, anybody who

954
00:46:36,280 --> 00:46:38,080
Speaker 2: doesn't understand that is an idiot.

955
00:46:37,800 --> 00:46:39,000
Speaker 3: That doesn't understand football.

956
00:46:39,600 --> 00:46:42,319
Speaker 2: But I think the people that like were watching the

957
00:46:42,400 --> 00:46:45,840
Speaker 2: games and understood what they were watching was like, the

958
00:46:45,920 --> 00:46:49,200
Speaker 2: defense is amazing, And that was my big takeaway from

959
00:46:49,200 --> 00:46:52,960
Speaker 2: today was Lamar was great. This isn't to say that

960
00:46:53,040 --> 00:46:58,040
Speaker 2: Lamar wasn't great, but the run game overwhelmed them and

961
00:46:58,120 --> 00:47:01,160
Speaker 2: the defense overwhelmed them. And if they get to a

962
00:47:01,200 --> 00:47:04,600
Speaker 2: super Bowl, it's not just because Lamar is a one man,

963
00:47:04,680 --> 00:47:08,040
Speaker 2: unstoppable machine. It's because you have a defense that forced

964
00:47:08,080 --> 00:47:10,399
Speaker 2: what four or five turnovers against San Francisco a few

965
00:47:10,400 --> 00:47:13,560
Speaker 2: weeks ago. They were great again tonight and the run game,

966
00:47:13,640 --> 00:47:17,799
Speaker 2: including Lamar Jackson, just wore down the Texans late. I

967
00:47:17,800 --> 00:47:21,160
Speaker 2: guess that's a very long winded way of me saying,

968
00:47:22,280 --> 00:47:24,400
Speaker 2: I think that's my big takeaway. This is a really

969
00:47:24,440 --> 00:47:28,960
Speaker 2: complete team. Everybody wants to make everything about Lamar, but

970
00:47:29,040 --> 00:47:31,640
Speaker 2: it's about Lamar, but it's also about the defense. It's

971
00:47:31,640 --> 00:47:34,680
Speaker 2: all about the offensive coordinator not putting Lamar in position

972
00:47:34,719 --> 00:47:36,040
Speaker 2: to have to do everything himself.

973
00:47:36,400 --> 00:47:37,640
Speaker 3: And I think we saw that all tonight.

974
00:47:37,960 --> 00:47:39,719
Speaker 5: All that's true.

975
00:47:40,000 --> 00:47:42,759
Speaker 6: Even so it was going to be about Lamar, Like

976
00:47:43,400 --> 00:47:45,240
Speaker 6: everything you just said is accurate.

977
00:47:44,880 --> 00:47:47,320
Speaker 3: But it's sort of the true of every quarterback.

978
00:47:47,400 --> 00:47:51,239
Speaker 6: Yeah, yes it is. But here's why it's a little

979
00:47:51,239 --> 00:47:55,040
Speaker 6: bit different. It's not necessarily because of on the field.

980
00:47:55,719 --> 00:47:59,880
Speaker 6: It's because of the discourse surrounding his contract and the

981
00:48:00,120 --> 00:48:02,839
Speaker 6: way he's been injured and the way that he didn't

982
00:48:02,880 --> 00:48:04,560
Speaker 6: play at the end of last year. And we have

983
00:48:04,640 --> 00:48:06,640
Speaker 6: people on this network saying he would never play for

984
00:48:06,680 --> 00:48:10,120
Speaker 6: Baltimore again, and we spent week after week after week

985
00:48:10,160 --> 00:48:12,239
Speaker 6: trying to parse what's he doing without an agent and

986
00:48:12,360 --> 00:48:14,839
Speaker 6: all of these other kinds of things. There's so much

987
00:48:14,880 --> 00:48:19,280
Speaker 6: that goes into the Lamar Jackson story into this season,

988
00:48:19,360 --> 00:48:23,280
Speaker 6: where this was definitely a proven year for Lamar Jackson.

989
00:48:23,640 --> 00:48:28,279
Speaker 6: You're right, the defense was outstanding, against a good young

990
00:48:28,360 --> 00:48:31,239
Speaker 6: Houston Texans team and a great young quarterback in c. J.

991
00:48:31,400 --> 00:48:35,320
Speaker 6: Stroud today and McDonald has pitched a lot of shutouts

992
00:48:35,320 --> 00:48:38,399
Speaker 6: this year. It feels like like he has been outstanding

993
00:48:38,440 --> 00:48:40,200
Speaker 6: as a DCS. Why is getting a lot of head

994
00:48:40,200 --> 00:48:45,360
Speaker 6: coaching interviews? But I think that no matter what happened,

995
00:48:45,440 --> 00:48:48,160
Speaker 6: it was gonna be about Lamar. I mean, were they

996
00:48:48,200 --> 00:48:50,920
Speaker 6: saying the Colts can't win in January or Peyton Manning

997
00:48:50,960 --> 00:48:53,200
Speaker 6: can't win a Super Bowl? They were talking about Peyton Manning.

998
00:48:53,239 --> 00:48:54,279
Speaker 6: It's the exact same thing.

999
00:48:54,760 --> 00:48:56,920
Speaker 2: What would have happened if San Francisco lost tonight. It

1000
00:48:56,920 --> 00:49:00,120
Speaker 2: wouldn't have been oh, the O line couldn't block for

1001
00:49:00,280 --> 00:49:00,719
Speaker 2: Rock Party.

1002
00:49:00,719 --> 00:49:02,960
Speaker 3: It would have been yeah, that's right.

1003
00:49:03,360 --> 00:49:06,320
Speaker 6: Again, though I think it's I think it's the other stuff.

1004
00:49:06,840 --> 00:49:09,320
Speaker 6: I think it is you paid him and he hasn't

1005
00:49:09,360 --> 00:49:11,960
Speaker 6: proven anything in the playoffs and he came out there,

1006
00:49:11,960 --> 00:49:14,680
Speaker 6: and if he came out there and lost, it would

1007
00:49:14,680 --> 00:49:17,319
Speaker 6: have been about him. They wouldn't have made excuses and

1008
00:49:17,400 --> 00:49:20,000
Speaker 6: talked about the defense. The whole thing would have been about, See,

1009
00:49:20,040 --> 00:49:23,560
Speaker 6: you can't win like this in January.

1010
00:49:23,640 --> 00:49:25,320
Speaker 5: This isn't how you win. You win with the evenge

1011
00:49:25,400 --> 00:49:26,240
Speaker 5: when we're running.

1012
00:49:26,000 --> 00:49:27,319
Speaker 6: The ball all this other kind of stuff, But like

1013
00:49:27,960 --> 00:49:30,440
Speaker 6: Lamar Jackson would have been the one that took the blame.

1014
00:49:30,960 --> 00:49:33,719
Speaker 6: I don't disagree with anything that you're saying, but I

1015
00:49:33,840 --> 00:49:39,799
Speaker 6: do think the way that Lamar's story evolved once he

1016
00:49:39,880 --> 00:49:42,520
Speaker 6: went down and then it became the contract dispute thing,

1017
00:49:42,760 --> 00:49:46,719
Speaker 6: I think that changes everything surrounding this. And I do

1018
00:49:46,760 --> 00:49:48,839
Speaker 6: think there was a lot on Lamar because he had

1019
00:49:48,880 --> 00:49:52,000
Speaker 6: not succeeded or played well in the playoffs, and it

1020
00:49:52,000 --> 00:49:56,919
Speaker 6: felt like his magic had been extinguished multiple times, where

1021
00:49:56,960 --> 00:49:59,560
Speaker 6: it just all of a sudden that guy didn't exist anymore.

1022
00:49:59,600 --> 00:50:01,919
Speaker 6: The guy that seen that the regular season wasn't there

1023
00:50:02,400 --> 00:50:04,399
Speaker 6: in the playoffs. He didn't have the space, he wasn't

1024
00:50:04,440 --> 00:50:07,960
Speaker 6: able to run, he was frustrated, all those kinds of things.

1025
00:50:08,239 --> 00:50:10,399
Speaker 6: I think it's a very important night for him, and

1026
00:50:10,840 --> 00:50:14,040
Speaker 6: I think that he stood up to that challenge and

1027
00:50:14,080 --> 00:50:15,600
Speaker 6: now we'll see what he can do next week.

1028
00:50:15,800 --> 00:50:18,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, And to be clear, I don't think that the

1029
00:50:18,880 --> 00:50:23,520
Speaker 2: narrative isn't about him, and I don't think and I

1030
00:50:23,520 --> 00:50:25,640
Speaker 2: think if they had lost today and it wasn't even close,

1031
00:50:25,640 --> 00:50:27,560
Speaker 2: So I'm not implying that it was like some close game.

1032
00:50:27,920 --> 00:50:31,160
Speaker 2: I think every show, including ours, would have led with, Okay,

1033
00:50:31,160 --> 00:50:32,120
Speaker 2: what's wrong with Lamar?

1034
00:50:32,200 --> 00:50:34,360
Speaker 3: Why is he? What's wrong with him? Why isn't he

1035
00:50:34,760 --> 00:50:35,840
Speaker 3: performing in the postseason?

1036
00:50:35,880 --> 00:50:38,640
Speaker 2: I get all that. What I am just saying is,

1037
00:50:40,360 --> 00:50:43,120
Speaker 2: you know, like I don't even want to call him.

1038
00:50:43,120 --> 00:50:45,240
Speaker 2: I was gonna say because he's such a polarizing player.

1039
00:50:45,280 --> 00:50:47,799
Speaker 2: I don't think he's a polarizing player. I think like

1040
00:50:48,000 --> 00:50:52,480
Speaker 2: ninety nine percent of football fans love Lamar Jackson. Now

1041
00:50:52,520 --> 00:50:54,680
Speaker 2: I think some of them have questions about the postseason,

1042
00:50:54,760 --> 00:50:56,759
Speaker 2: or at least they're gonna say, until you get to

1043
00:50:56,800 --> 00:50:59,399
Speaker 2: those biggest stages. By the way, no different than Josh

1044
00:50:59,480 --> 00:51:01,839
Speaker 2: Allen as an example, no different than a lot of guys.

1045
00:51:01,920 --> 00:51:04,120
Speaker 2: Until you get those biggest stages, we can't give you

1046
00:51:04,160 --> 00:51:06,600
Speaker 2: too much credit. I just but what I'm trying to

1047
00:51:06,640 --> 00:51:09,880
Speaker 2: say is I get that all the blame would have

1048
00:51:09,880 --> 00:51:12,680
Speaker 2: been on him, and I get all of that. I'll

1049
00:51:12,680 --> 00:51:15,360
Speaker 2: tell you what, Jason, we could talk about Lamar Jackson

1050
00:51:15,360 --> 00:51:18,200
Speaker 2: in just a moment, because right now on the phone,

1051
00:51:18,320 --> 00:51:21,279
Speaker 2: live from San Francisco, coming off their twenty four to

1052
00:51:21,320 --> 00:51:26,120
Speaker 2: twenty one victory, we have Trent Williams.

1053
00:51:25,400 --> 00:51:27,239
Speaker 3: Of the San Francisco for what do you do? How

1054
00:51:27,280 --> 00:51:27,680
Speaker 3: you doing?

1055
00:51:27,719 --> 00:51:27,879
Speaker 1: Man?

1056
00:51:27,880 --> 00:51:28,479
Speaker 3: How you doing?

1057
00:51:29,080 --> 00:51:30,080
Speaker 9: I'm doing great? Now?

1058
00:51:30,480 --> 00:51:33,399
Speaker 3: Yeah, First of all, how does that locker room feel?

1059
00:51:33,480 --> 00:51:36,120
Speaker 2: Trent Williams joining Fox Sports Radio, Trent, how does that

1060
00:51:36,200 --> 00:51:39,680
Speaker 2: locker room feel after that fourth quarter comeback twenty four

1061
00:51:39,719 --> 00:51:40,680
Speaker 2: to twenty one victory?

1062
00:51:41,280 --> 00:51:46,400
Speaker 9: Ah, just to release man relief. You know, it's a

1063
00:51:46,480 --> 00:51:48,600
Speaker 9: token of confidence where you can pull the game out

1064
00:51:48,640 --> 00:51:51,520
Speaker 9: like that and you know when you gotta go down

1065
00:51:51,560 --> 00:51:54,960
Speaker 9: there and get a score and don't have great field position.

1066
00:51:55,320 --> 00:51:57,279
Speaker 9: I think that, you know, with the way that the

1067
00:51:57,360 --> 00:52:00,719
Speaker 9: game was going on all day essentially, you know, for

1068
00:52:00,800 --> 00:52:03,200
Speaker 9: us to be able to put the ball in the

1069
00:52:03,239 --> 00:52:05,560
Speaker 9: box when it meant the most, I think that that

1070
00:52:05,680 --> 00:52:08,280
Speaker 9: was a huge build of confidence for us.

1071
00:52:08,719 --> 00:52:09,960
Speaker 5: Do you think do you look at that?

1072
00:52:10,040 --> 00:52:12,160
Speaker 6: Do you look at it positively and say, hey, you know,

1073
00:52:12,200 --> 00:52:14,200
Speaker 6: we didn't bring our a game today. This was not

1074
00:52:14,280 --> 00:52:16,680
Speaker 6: our best performance as a football team, and we beat

1075
00:52:16,680 --> 00:52:19,200
Speaker 6: a pretty good football team and we're still playing.

1076
00:52:20,560 --> 00:52:24,080
Speaker 9: Yeah. Yeah, Like I said, I said it before, Green

1077
00:52:24,120 --> 00:52:26,319
Speaker 9: Bay record is not indicative of how good they are

1078
00:52:26,360 --> 00:52:28,960
Speaker 9: and how good they played. Well coached, very well coached team.

1079
00:52:29,640 --> 00:52:32,040
Speaker 9: We got a early tallenging scheme to pick up on

1080
00:52:33,560 --> 00:52:37,000
Speaker 9: you know, so I think a lot of people made

1081
00:52:37,040 --> 00:52:39,680
Speaker 9: discredit him because it's number seven in front of their seed.

1082
00:52:39,840 --> 00:52:41,919
Speaker 9: But you know, once you get in this big dance,

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Speaker 9: we're all professionals and we all we all here for

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00:52:44,800 --> 00:52:48,160
Speaker 9: a reason. So, you know, a tough game, it shouldn't

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Speaker 9: surprise anybody.

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Speaker 2: Trent Williams joining Fox Sports Radio live off a San

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00:52:52,719 --> 00:52:56,279
Speaker 2: Francisco twenty four to twenty one victory over the Green

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00:52:56,320 --> 00:53:00,839
Speaker 2: Bay Packers. Trent, so much of the converse about your

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00:53:00,880 --> 00:53:05,479
Speaker 2: team is about your quarterback. But on a night where

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Speaker 2: he needed to be great down the stretch, multiple first downs,

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00:53:08,600 --> 00:53:10,920
Speaker 2: on that final drive, he picks up a big chunk

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Speaker 2: with his legs which sets up the McCaffrey touchdown. What

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00:53:14,400 --> 00:53:16,200
Speaker 2: do you guys in the locker room, how do you

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00:53:16,280 --> 00:53:17,760
Speaker 2: feel about your quarterback?

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00:53:17,760 --> 00:53:18,320
Speaker 3: Brock Party.

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Speaker 9: He is one of the sole reasons we're in this

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00:53:23,120 --> 00:53:27,319
Speaker 9: position that we are in today. So we have so

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Speaker 9: much confidence in him. He's such a good quarterback, such

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Speaker 9: a good kid, such a good teammate. You know, I

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00:53:34,320 --> 00:53:36,840
Speaker 9: had zero doubt that he would make the plays that

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Speaker 9: we needed to get us down to.

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Speaker 5: Truth.

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Speaker 6: How does your offense change when Deepo goes out. It

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Speaker 6: seems like he when he goes out, it just changes

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00:53:46,640 --> 00:53:49,520
Speaker 6: a lot of what you want to do. How much

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00:53:49,560 --> 00:53:51,759
Speaker 6: did you have to shift things when he left the game?

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Speaker 9: You know that's probably a question better foited for Kyle.

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00:53:56,320 --> 00:53:58,200
Speaker 9: You know, I just get to call in. But I

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00:53:58,239 --> 00:54:00,800
Speaker 9: do know that we put a lot on Ebo's shoulder,

1110
00:54:00,800 --> 00:54:03,560
Speaker 9: and he knows so many different positions and so many

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00:54:03,600 --> 00:54:07,040
Speaker 9: you know, he does so much for us, you know,

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00:54:07,160 --> 00:54:09,600
Speaker 9: so losing him, you know, he's lightning in the bottle.

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00:54:09,719 --> 00:54:12,200
Speaker 9: So losing a guy like that is always gonna be

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00:54:12,239 --> 00:54:15,560
Speaker 9: tough to overcome, especially when it happens, you know in

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00:54:16,160 --> 00:54:17,919
Speaker 9: the game. You know, when you got time, the game

1116
00:54:17,960 --> 00:54:20,160
Speaker 9: plan for it, you know, we can kind of put

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00:54:20,200 --> 00:54:22,480
Speaker 9: people in different situations and make up for it. But

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00:54:23,000 --> 00:54:25,319
Speaker 9: you know, Debo is a huge part of the game plan,

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00:54:25,400 --> 00:54:27,400
Speaker 9: So losing them early, you know, it did kind of

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00:54:27,719 --> 00:54:30,280
Speaker 9: take some rebooting and try to put some different guys

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00:54:30,280 --> 00:54:33,400
Speaker 9: in different places to try to, you know, overcome that.

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00:54:34,200 --> 00:54:36,919
Speaker 2: Trent Williams joinning Fox Sports Radio aeron towards Jason Martin.

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00:54:36,920 --> 00:54:40,640
Speaker 2: Trent dumb question, do you tomorrow just sit on the

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00:54:40,640 --> 00:54:43,160
Speaker 2: couch like the rest of us and watch Detroit Tampa Bay.

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Speaker 2: Do you guys have a text chain going like how

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00:54:45,239 --> 00:54:48,320
Speaker 2: do you consume that game knowing that you're going to

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00:54:48,360 --> 00:54:49,880
Speaker 2: play the winner next Sunday?

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Speaker 9: Uh? Me personally, Yeah, I'm tomorrow. I'll be a regular citizen.

1129
00:54:55,000 --> 00:54:57,719
Speaker 9: I'll be be kicked up on the couch and I'll

1130
00:54:57,719 --> 00:54:59,960
Speaker 9: be you know, tuning in the both of the game,

1131
00:55:00,520 --> 00:55:05,200
Speaker 9: obviously studying the Tampa band Detroit game, but you know,

1132
00:55:05,320 --> 00:55:08,680
Speaker 9: watching the other capital football fan watching Kansas City and Buffalo.

1133
00:55:08,800 --> 00:55:11,600
Speaker 9: So yeah, you know, ain't nothing better than being able

1134
00:55:11,640 --> 00:55:14,000
Speaker 9: to just kick your feet up and watch and watch

1135
00:55:14,000 --> 00:55:16,480
Speaker 9: some high competitive football.

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Speaker 5: Uh sure, one more from me.

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Speaker 6: You've been there for a while, So you were there

1138
00:55:22,560 --> 00:55:25,120
Speaker 6: pre Christian McCaffery, and you guys have had talented backs.

1139
00:55:25,160 --> 00:55:27,440
Speaker 6: You've had Elijah and you've had Jeff Wilson, and you've

1140
00:55:27,480 --> 00:55:30,080
Speaker 6: had guys through the years. But now that you've got

1141
00:55:30,160 --> 00:55:33,880
Speaker 6: Christian and you can see what he is. How special

1142
00:55:34,000 --> 00:55:36,080
Speaker 6: is he? I know what we see on TV, but

1143
00:55:36,280 --> 00:55:38,759
Speaker 6: being up close and personal with him, how special is

1144
00:55:38,840 --> 00:55:40,320
Speaker 6: McCaffrey as a football player.

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00:55:40,719 --> 00:55:43,080
Speaker 9: Man, he's the best. He's the best in the league,

1146
00:55:43,200 --> 00:55:46,720
Speaker 9: been that way for a long time. He's extremely special.

1147
00:55:46,760 --> 00:55:49,640
Speaker 9: But you know, for me. It meant a lot for

1148
00:55:49,680 --> 00:55:52,000
Speaker 9: me to be able to watch him up close day

1149
00:55:52,000 --> 00:55:54,120
Speaker 9: in and day out. And you know, I tell you,

1150
00:55:54,120 --> 00:55:56,160
Speaker 9: he's a monst. One of the hardest workers on this

1151
00:55:56,239 --> 00:55:59,719
Speaker 9: football team. Uh, the way he approaches work, he don't

1152
00:55:59,719 --> 00:56:02,080
Speaker 9: he don't take a day off, a second off. He's

1153
00:56:02,080 --> 00:56:07,040
Speaker 9: so locked in. And you know he's he's just he's

1154
00:56:07,080 --> 00:56:09,440
Speaker 9: a he's just a blessing. You know, he's a blessing.

1155
00:56:09,680 --> 00:56:12,680
Speaker 9: Being able to get him for what we got him

1156
00:56:12,680 --> 00:56:15,960
Speaker 9: for and and the difference he's made since the first

1157
00:56:15,960 --> 00:56:18,480
Speaker 9: time you step in his locker room. I mean, it's

1158
00:56:19,000 --> 00:56:22,040
Speaker 9: really can't be measured. You know, he's a lead and rusher,

1159
00:56:22,719 --> 00:56:24,600
Speaker 9: he's a he's a he's a hard and soul of

1160
00:56:24,719 --> 00:56:27,359
Speaker 9: this his offense. Honestly, he does so much for us.

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Speaker 3: Trent, last one will let you go.

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00:56:28,960 --> 00:56:32,279
Speaker 2: Trent Williams joining us obviously last two seasons has not

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Speaker 2: gone to plan.

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Speaker 3: This one is at home. This one.

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00:56:35,520 --> 00:56:38,880
Speaker 2: You're fully healthy, relatively speaking, all things considered for this

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00:56:38,920 --> 00:56:41,000
Speaker 2: time of year, as healthy as he can be. Broocks

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00:56:41,040 --> 00:56:43,480
Speaker 2: ready to go, starting quarterback, et cetera. What do you

1168
00:56:43,480 --> 00:56:45,800
Speaker 2: guys got to do to finish this thing? Get to Vegas?

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00:56:45,880 --> 00:56:47,640
Speaker 2: And represent the NFC in the Super Bowl.

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Speaker 9: Well, we obviously got to play better than we did today,

1171
00:56:53,280 --> 00:56:55,080
Speaker 9: you know, but we just got to keep fighting. And

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Speaker 9: obviously next week could be even harder of a game.

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00:56:58,280 --> 00:57:01,080
Speaker 9: No matter who we get, whether Troy or Tampa, it's

1174
00:57:01,120 --> 00:57:05,279
Speaker 9: going to be another you know, dog fight. And you know,

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00:57:05,360 --> 00:57:07,279
Speaker 9: but what more would you want when you know, when

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00:57:07,280 --> 00:57:11,000
Speaker 9: you're trying to accomplish the end all goal, you know,

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Speaker 9: it's he's so much more thankful for when you earn it,

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00:57:15,680 --> 00:57:17,560
Speaker 9: you know. And and we had to go and earn

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00:57:17,600 --> 00:57:19,160
Speaker 9: this one, and I'm pretty sure we had to go

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00:57:19,200 --> 00:57:21,840
Speaker 9: eron the next one. So you know, the whole goal

1181
00:57:21,920 --> 00:57:23,960
Speaker 9: is to get into that big dance, and you know,

1182
00:57:24,000 --> 00:57:25,480
Speaker 9: we got another opportunity to do it.

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00:57:26,160 --> 00:57:29,360
Speaker 2: Trent Williams joining us. Trent, best of luck next week,

1184
00:57:29,400 --> 00:57:31,320
Speaker 2: by the way, best of luck with tickets if you

1185
00:57:31,320 --> 00:57:33,280
Speaker 2: guys end up in Vegas. I feel like everyone's going

1186
00:57:33,320 --> 00:57:36,120
Speaker 2: to be hitting you up for that one. Yeah, for sure,

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00:57:36,320 --> 00:57:38,320
Speaker 2: we'll be watching you next week. Man, go enjoy this

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00:57:38,440 --> 00:57:40,880
Speaker 2: with the teammates. We so appreciate you making some time.

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Speaker 2: We appreciate it, and thanks again, Trent Williams.

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Speaker 9: All right, thank you appreciate it.

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Speaker 3: That was Trent Williams, and that was awesome.

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Speaker 6: Jason sogit one of the best offensive linemen of the

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00:57:52,520 --> 00:57:55,880
Speaker 6: century right there. Well, like, he's ridiculously good.

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Speaker 2: And what I want to say to sometimes you get

1195
00:57:59,520 --> 00:58:04,840
Speaker 2: guys postgame, you get guys after an emotional win. They

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00:58:04,920 --> 00:58:07,320
Speaker 2: just want to get back to their teammates. And Trent

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00:58:07,360 --> 00:58:09,959
Speaker 2: gave us a solid, you know, ten twelve minutes there,

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00:58:10,120 --> 00:58:13,160
Speaker 2: and I thought gave us some very insightful stuff on

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Speaker 2: his thoughts on Brock Purdy, his thoughts on Christian McCaffrey.

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Speaker 2: Tell you what, Jason, why don't we come back and

1201
00:58:19,240 --> 00:58:23,080
Speaker 2: react to what Trent Williams said. Trent Williams just joined us,

1202
00:58:23,120 --> 00:58:26,040
Speaker 2: and we'll have plenty more from that. That's all next

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Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio, Welcome back everybody. Fox Sports Radio. Eric Torris,

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00:58:30,560 --> 00:58:33,640
Speaker 2: Jason Martin broadcasting live from the Tireck dot Com studios.

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00:58:34,640 --> 00:58:35,800
Speaker 3: Jays about ten minutes.

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Speaker 2: From now, I want to talk a little bit about

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00:58:37,360 --> 00:58:40,400
Speaker 2: some of the coaching news of the week, but very

1208
00:58:40,440 --> 00:58:44,600
Speaker 2: quickly for people who just missed it. Trent Williams, San

1209
00:58:44,640 --> 00:58:51,200
Speaker 2: Francisco forty nine ers, iconic left tackle or offensive lineman,

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00:58:52,360 --> 00:58:54,120
Speaker 2: joined us by the way, if you missed it, you

1211
00:58:54,120 --> 00:58:57,160
Speaker 2: could check out the podcast because shortly after the show,

1212
00:58:57,200 --> 00:58:59,800
Speaker 2: our podcast will be going up. If you missed any

1213
00:58:59,840 --> 00:59:01,840
Speaker 2: of the show, be sure to check it out. Just

1214
00:59:01,880 --> 00:59:04,680
Speaker 2: search Fox Sports Radio wherever you get your podcasts, and

1215
00:59:04,680 --> 00:59:08,240
Speaker 2: be sure to also follow, rate and review the podcast. Again,

1216
00:59:08,360 --> 00:59:10,440
Speaker 2: just search Fox Sports Radio wherever you get your podcast,

1217
00:59:10,480 --> 00:59:14,320
Speaker 2: and we'll you'll see this show posted right after we

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00:59:14,440 --> 00:59:19,040
Speaker 2: get off air. So producer Pat is efforting some of

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Speaker 2: the clips from that interview. Jason, did you have any

1220
00:59:21,840 --> 00:59:23,720
Speaker 2: amazing takeaways from it? First of all, let me just

1221
00:59:23,720 --> 00:59:26,480
Speaker 2: say really quickly, Trent was awesome. For people who did

1222
00:59:26,520 --> 00:59:29,480
Speaker 2: miss it, I do encourage you to download the podcast because,

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00:59:30,040 --> 00:59:32,120
Speaker 2: you know, listen, I was telling the guys in the back,

1224
00:59:32,400 --> 00:59:36,760
Speaker 2: like there's such a difference between thirty five year old vet,

1225
00:59:37,040 --> 00:59:40,120
Speaker 2: grown man as opposed to like, you know, twenty one

1226
00:59:40,240 --> 00:59:42,920
Speaker 2: year old rookie, you know, small school maybe hasn't done

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00:59:42,920 --> 00:59:45,160
Speaker 2: a lot of interviews. You could tell Trent was really

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00:59:45,160 --> 00:59:47,840
Speaker 2: comfortable chatting with us. He was great, He was honest,

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00:59:47,880 --> 00:59:50,479
Speaker 2: he was insightful. We appreciate the time you have any

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00:59:50,480 --> 00:59:52,520
Speaker 2: single big take or a couple of big takeaways from

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00:59:52,520 --> 00:59:55,880
Speaker 2: this whole thing, Jason, no other.

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Speaker 6: Than it kind of backs up what we said earlier,

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00:59:59,280 --> 01:00:03,160
Speaker 6: which is good teams find a way to win when

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01:00:03,200 --> 01:00:05,120
Speaker 6: they don't have their best stuff.

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Speaker 3: Yep.

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Speaker 6: And I think Trent pretty much said that without saying

1237
01:00:10,320 --> 01:00:13,440
Speaker 6: it directly. He knows that they I don't know that

1238
01:00:13,480 --> 01:00:15,640
Speaker 6: i'd use the word escaped, but this is a game

1239
01:00:15,680 --> 01:00:17,680
Speaker 6: they could have lost. It's absolutely a game they could

1240
01:00:17,680 --> 01:00:19,200
Speaker 6: have lost. He gave a lot of credit to Kareem

1241
01:00:19,200 --> 01:00:21,200
Speaker 6: Base said they're better than their seed, and we knew

1242
01:00:21,200 --> 01:00:23,960
Speaker 6: that coming in, and he said, we've got to play

1243
01:00:24,080 --> 01:00:27,600
Speaker 6: better next week. So he basically said what we all saw,

1244
01:00:27,640 --> 01:00:31,240
Speaker 6: which is that team did not fire on all cylinders tonight,

1245
01:00:31,560 --> 01:00:34,479
Speaker 6: but they still won. And you could hear and he said.

1246
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Speaker 6: The first words that he said to you after your

1247
01:00:36,800 --> 01:00:42,440
Speaker 6: initial question was relief. Relief, And that's it. They know

1248
01:00:42,560 --> 01:00:44,440
Speaker 6: they could have gotten beat tonight with the way they

1249
01:00:44,480 --> 01:00:47,600
Speaker 6: played and they didn't, and they're still playing football and

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01:00:47,640 --> 01:00:52,760
Speaker 6: they're relieved. They know exactly what is going to be necessary,

1251
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Speaker 6: but they found a way to get through. And I

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Speaker 6: think that's I think that relief came through in the interview.

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Speaker 5: There was a there.

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01:01:00,240 --> 01:01:04,040
Speaker 6: Was a positivity and uh boy, I'm not so sure

1255
01:01:04,080 --> 01:01:06,280
Speaker 6: we were actually gonna win that game kind of feeling

1256
01:01:06,360 --> 01:01:09,080
Speaker 6: to it, and that's a that comes from a veteran

1257
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Speaker 6: who has seen both sides.

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Speaker 2: That was actually my biggest takeaway as well, besides the

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01:01:13,400 --> 01:01:17,200
Speaker 2: fact that you know, we in the media and and

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Speaker 2: that's the one clip that I do want to make

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Speaker 2: sure we get is him talking about, you know how

1262
01:01:22,480 --> 01:01:24,920
Speaker 2: much that team loves brock Purty. I think we in

1263
01:01:24,960 --> 01:01:28,200
Speaker 2: the media have a different perception of the guys that

1264
01:01:28,240 --> 01:01:30,880
Speaker 2: are around him every day. But I only bring it

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01:01:30,960 --> 01:01:32,800
Speaker 2: up to say outside of that, I thought that was

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01:01:32,840 --> 01:01:35,840
Speaker 2: my biggest takeaway as well, is that I forget which

1267
01:01:35,960 --> 01:01:39,240
Speaker 2: question it was, but he basically said like, well, we

1268
01:01:39,280 --> 01:01:41,400
Speaker 2: gotta be better, like we got a lot to clean up,

1269
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Speaker 2: and that was exactly what we said to lead the show.

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Speaker 2: Is that any team and I'm not saying they're gonna

1271
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Speaker 2: win the championship or whatever, but but you know, what

1272
01:01:48,680 --> 01:01:51,600
Speaker 2: do we say around March Maddness time NCAA tournament is

1273
01:01:51,600 --> 01:01:53,760
Speaker 2: that in general, you're gonna have a game that you

1274
01:01:53,880 --> 01:01:57,520
Speaker 2: probably shouldn't win or you barely survive. Basically every champion

1275
01:01:57,960 --> 01:02:00,280
Speaker 2: has that game, and I think this was the game

1276
01:02:00,320 --> 01:02:03,480
Speaker 2: for San Francisco. You know, you go back to just

1277
01:02:03,680 --> 01:02:05,800
Speaker 2: so many different years. The year the Rams won the

1278
01:02:06,120 --> 01:02:08,280
Speaker 2: Super Bowl was a bunch of fourth quarter comebacks. Could

1279
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Speaker 2: have lost any of those games, you know, last year

1280
01:02:11,280 --> 01:02:14,640
Speaker 2: with KC fourth quarter car you know the case making

1281
01:02:14,680 --> 01:02:16,680
Speaker 2: it to the super Bowl when they're Trellie with thirteen

1282
01:02:16,760 --> 01:02:19,400
Speaker 2: seconds to go. It's like, it doesn't always have to

1283
01:02:19,440 --> 01:02:23,640
Speaker 2: be complete domination like the Ravens today. Sometimes it's a

1284
01:02:23,680 --> 01:02:26,479
Speaker 2: combination of finding a way to win, maybe a little

1285
01:02:26,480 --> 01:02:28,040
Speaker 2: bit of luck. I don't think there was really as

1286
01:02:28,160 --> 01:02:31,560
Speaker 2: much luck involved today. But San Francisco gets the win,

1287
01:02:32,080 --> 01:02:37,680
Speaker 2: San Francisco survives, and Trent Williams was fantastic. Tell you what, Jason,

1288
01:02:37,680 --> 01:02:39,920
Speaker 2: why don't we come back when we do? Want to

1289
01:02:39,960 --> 01:02:42,320
Speaker 2: talk about some of the coaching news of the week.

1290
01:02:42,880 --> 01:02:46,800
Speaker 2: One guy staying not really sure about that, another guy

1291
01:02:47,040 --> 01:02:49,120
Speaker 2: could be going to a place we weren't expecting. We'll

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Speaker 2: discuss all that next Before we do, though, news desk

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Speaker 2: de saga, what is droder guys?

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Speaker 8: I mentioned it on the previous show. There was an

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Speaker 8: NFL beat writer that pointed out that in this NFL

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Speaker 8: postseason so far, until this game in the Bay Area tonight,

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Speaker 8: We had not had even a lead change since the

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Speaker 8: first half of the first playoff game at Houston, and

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Speaker 8: then what we got was back and forth in the

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Speaker 8: Bay Area tonight, no lead changes in Detroit, Uh, Detroit.

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Speaker 8: The Rams kept getting a field goals.

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Speaker 3: I don't think it's right.

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01:03:19,360 --> 01:03:21,000
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, that game was.

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Speaker 6: That game was great, but you're right, it was always

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01:03:23,200 --> 01:03:25,160
Speaker 6: the same that I did not even think about that though.

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Speaker 3: That is crazy. I didn't mean to cut you off

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Speaker 3: the cigarette.

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Speaker 8: And then tonight we had San Francisco down three nothing early,

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Speaker 8: but let it halftime seven to six. Then remember right

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Speaker 8: after halftime, Jordan Love touchdown pass to regain the league

1311
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Speaker 8: Christian McCaffrey answers with a td Niners lead, Love again

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Speaker 8: touchdown and two point conversion to retake the lead. San

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Speaker 8: Francisco wins it on a touchdown run of six yards

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Speaker 8: from Christian McCaffrey with one oh seven to go twenty

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Speaker 8: four to twenty one. The final over Green Bay. The difference,

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Speaker 8: you could easily say kind of like what we were

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Speaker 8: talking about. The yeah, Rams settling for field goals in

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01:04:01,640 --> 01:04:05,920
Speaker 8: Green Bay first three drives tonight, settled for two short

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01:04:05,960 --> 01:04:08,520
Speaker 8: field goals and then got stopped on that fourth and

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Speaker 8: one attempt on the sneak, and also missed a forty

1321
01:04:11,560 --> 01:04:14,520
Speaker 8: one yard field goal attempt with about six minutes left.

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Speaker 8: Packers lose by three. So Jordan Love finishes with two

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Speaker 8: touchdown passes but two interceptions as well, both by Dre Greenlaw,

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Speaker 8: Who's the first linebacker with two picks at least in

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Speaker 8: a playoff game in over twenty years. A little bit

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Speaker 8: of NFL trivia, Can you name a starting quarterback who's

1327
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Speaker 8: been to a conference championship game? Starting conference championships each

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Speaker 8: of his first two seasons in the league since the merger?

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Speaker 8: This goes back to nineteen seventy rock Perty's going to

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Speaker 8: be doing that?

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Speaker 3: How many are there?

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Speaker 8: They are only three total. Ben Roethlisberger did that his

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Speaker 8: first two seasons. Mahomes didn't play his first year. Mark

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01:04:55,280 --> 01:05:00,360
Speaker 8: Sanchez to the Jets of the other in fifty plus years,

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Speaker 8: there's only three San Francisco beats the Packers tonight and

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Speaker 8: Aaron Jones did have on eighteen carries one hundred and

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Speaker 8: eight yards rushing, first one hundred yard rushing a game

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Speaker 8: against San Francisco in two and a half years, but

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Speaker 8: the Niners advance as does Baltimore thirty four to ten

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Speaker 8: over the Texans. That game was tied ten ten at halftime.

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Speaker 8: Lamar Jackson two touchdown passes, two touchdown runs. Lamar Jackson

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Speaker 8: the first quarterback to lead his team in rushing yards

1343
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Speaker 8: for the season and then advance beyond the divisional round.

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Speaker 8: In fact, he's led the Ravens in rushing five straight seasons,

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Speaker 8: which is a record for an NFL quarterback. He led

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Speaker 8: the team with his hundred yards rushing today he now

1347
01:05:42,960 --> 01:05:46,480
Speaker 8: has three career playoff games with one hundred yards rushing.

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Speaker 8: That is an NFL record for a quarterback. So now

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Speaker 8: how about this. AP points out that the city of

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Speaker 8: Baltimore will be hosting the AFC Championship for the first

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Speaker 8: time since January nineteen seventy one, when the Baltimore Colts

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Speaker 8: beat the Oakland Raiders on their way to a Super

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Speaker 8: Bowl victory.

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Speaker 3: Another crazy stat.

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Speaker 2: I know that they the Ravens with Ray Lewis and

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Speaker 2: Ed Reid and all them kind of came out the

1357
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Speaker 2: same time as the Patriots dynasty.

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Speaker 8: And remember they had Begruden ian Oakland. Yeah, so they've

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Speaker 8: had four other times in the AFC Title Game, all

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Speaker 8: of them on the road. That's incredible until next weekend.

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Speaker 8: And there's going to be better weather in Baltimore next weekend,

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Speaker 8: better weather in San Francisco next weekend as well as

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Speaker 8: we look ahead. But the Ravens went over the Texans

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Speaker 8: means that the Texans franchise drops to zero to five

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Speaker 8: in the divisional round. They are the only current NFL

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Speaker 8: franchise that has yet to reach a conference championship game.

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Speaker 8: Detroit host Tampa Bay Sunday three pm Eastern Time, then

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Speaker 8: Buffalo will host Kansas City six thirty pm Eastern. In

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Speaker 8: college hoops, number one, Yukon a winner at Villanova on

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Speaker 8: FS one sixty six sixty five. And there's an NHL

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Speaker 8: team that's won twelve in a row, and Edmonton is

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Speaker 8: winning again tonight two to one at Calgary in the

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Speaker 8: final minute of regulation. Boston won again nine to four

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Speaker 8: over Montreal, and the NBA late game went to Oklahoma

1375
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Speaker 8: City winning at Minnesota one oh two ninety seven. Oklahoma

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Speaker 8: City is twenty nine and thirteen this year. Minnesota a

1377
01:07:19,400 --> 01:07:23,080
Speaker 8: very healthy thirty and twelve. Mike Conley won for eleven

1378
01:07:23,120 --> 01:07:25,440
Speaker 8: shooting from the floor. In the lost Timberwolves had twenty

1379
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Speaker 8: one turnovers back to you.

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Speaker 2: Thank you very much, Steve Seger, Fox Sports Radio, Fox

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Speaker 2: Sports Saturday Air Tours daysmar Barquessing from the Tireck dot

1382
01:07:33,200 --> 01:07:35,400
Speaker 2: Com Studios to Sega will be back in just a

1383
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Speaker 2: few minutes with his extended update. Jason, do want to

1384
01:07:39,880 --> 01:07:44,400
Speaker 2: go back and talk about some of the coaching moves

1385
01:07:44,720 --> 01:07:49,480
Speaker 2: and non moves of the week. So it's crazy because

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01:07:49,560 --> 01:07:51,720
Speaker 2: you and I have not been on air, as I

1387
01:07:51,760 --> 01:07:55,280
Speaker 2: said earlier in the show, since the debacle for the

1388
01:07:55,320 --> 01:07:57,880
Speaker 2: Dallas Cowboys against the Green Bay Packers. Green Bay obviously

1389
01:07:57,920 --> 01:08:01,400
Speaker 2: their season ended today, but Green Bays ended Dallas' season

1390
01:08:01,560 --> 01:08:04,800
Speaker 2: five days ago, six days ago. I guess on last

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01:08:04,920 --> 01:08:10,200
Speaker 2: Sunday bring it up, because as it was going on,

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01:08:11,000 --> 01:08:13,680
Speaker 2: I think we all thought you can't bring back Mike McCarthy.

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Speaker 2: Third straight disappointing loss in the playoffs. Obviously last year

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01:08:18,439 --> 01:08:22,439
Speaker 2: they did win a game in Tampa. But sure enough

1395
01:08:22,479 --> 01:08:25,040
Speaker 2: he is back. I mean, I have some thoughts on it, Jason.

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Speaker 2: Were you surprised that Jerry Jones did not make a move.

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Speaker 6: I was, even though I think I know where your

1398
01:08:31,320 --> 01:08:33,040
Speaker 6: first take is going to be. I'm not gonna steal it.

1399
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Speaker 6: I'm just going to say that the text that you

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01:08:34,640 --> 01:08:36,680
Speaker 6: sent me in regards to it, after the.

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Speaker 5: Fact, I think you're right.

1402
01:08:40,080 --> 01:08:41,880
Speaker 6: So I'm looking forward to hearing you lay that out

1403
01:08:41,880 --> 01:08:48,320
Speaker 6: here in a second. I was surprised only because this

1404
01:08:48,400 --> 01:08:50,240
Speaker 6: is the third year in a row we've seen twelve

1405
01:08:50,320 --> 01:08:55,439
Speaker 6: and five like and nothing happens in the postseason ever,

1406
01:08:56,360 --> 01:09:00,000
Speaker 6: and it just felt like this was the time where

1407
01:09:00,120 --> 01:09:03,120
Speaker 6: something needed to change. You're already paying your quarterback a

1408
01:09:03,160 --> 01:09:05,679
Speaker 6: lot of money, and he has come up pretty small

1409
01:09:06,520 --> 01:09:11,720
Speaker 6: in these postseason situations. But at some point, don't you

1410
01:09:11,880 --> 01:09:15,000
Speaker 6: have to start doing something differently if you want different results.

1411
01:09:15,040 --> 01:09:17,920
Speaker 3: Well, not only that, it's the candidates that are available.

1412
01:09:18,120 --> 01:09:20,920
Speaker 6: You're right, it's a great year for candidates. That's another

1413
01:09:20,920 --> 01:09:21,400
Speaker 6: great point.

1414
01:09:21,800 --> 01:09:22,320
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1415
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Speaker 2: No, my only real takeaway. And I've probably said this

1416
01:09:26,080 --> 01:09:28,040
Speaker 2: on air, and so for people who've heard me say it,

1417
01:09:28,040 --> 01:09:30,880
Speaker 2: I apologize. But and I might have even told you this, Jason.

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01:09:30,920 --> 01:09:33,759
Speaker 2: But but I go back to the year that Jason

1419
01:09:33,800 --> 01:09:38,760
Speaker 2: Garrett was fired. But you know, it was in the

1420
01:09:38,840 --> 01:09:43,000
Speaker 2: era of a sixteen game regular season, so seventeen total weeks,

1421
01:09:43,000 --> 01:09:45,120
Speaker 2: so the season ended a week earlier. It ended, you know,

1422
01:09:45,160 --> 01:09:47,800
Speaker 2: around a little before New Year's and I bring it

1423
01:09:47,880 --> 01:09:51,599
Speaker 2: up because Arnie Spanner and I were filling in all week,

1424
01:09:52,160 --> 01:09:54,479
Speaker 2: you know whatever, doing a bunch of shows, and you

1425
01:09:54,600 --> 01:09:56,839
Speaker 2: came out of that Sunday saying, Okay, oh, Jason Garrett's

1426
01:09:56,840 --> 01:09:59,360
Speaker 2: gonna get fired. I mean, you know, like, look, nobody wishes,

1427
01:09:59,600 --> 01:10:01,519
Speaker 2: you know, ill will upon people, but if you're not

1428
01:10:01,520 --> 01:10:04,720
Speaker 2: good at your job, you know, you're highly compensated, you

1429
01:10:04,760 --> 01:10:07,639
Speaker 2: gotta perform. And so I bring it up because Arnie

1430
01:10:07,680 --> 01:10:11,160
Speaker 2: Spanier and I were on air every single night. A

1431
01:10:11,280 --> 01:10:13,880
Speaker 2: night one comes and we're expecting a firing during the

1432
01:10:13,880 --> 01:10:16,599
Speaker 2: show and it doesn't happen. And then the next night

1433
01:10:16,960 --> 01:10:18,559
Speaker 2: by the time we're come on air because it was

1434
01:10:18,680 --> 01:10:20,880
Speaker 2: weird filling in for Jason and Mike so well, I mean,

1435
01:10:20,920 --> 01:10:23,439
Speaker 2: we're not on till eleven pm Eastern or ten pm Eastern.

1436
01:10:23,479 --> 01:10:26,000
Speaker 2: He's gonna get fired. Didn't get fired. Then day three

1437
01:10:26,040 --> 01:10:28,439
Speaker 2: it's like, well, you know, maybe we bring him back.

1438
01:10:28,439 --> 01:10:30,240
Speaker 2: And then day four it's do we move him into

1439
01:10:30,280 --> 01:10:32,920
Speaker 2: the front office? And it was like, you know, it

1440
01:10:33,000 --> 01:10:36,000
Speaker 2: took like five days to get rid of Jason Garrett

1441
01:10:36,040 --> 01:10:39,599
Speaker 2: after ten years, and I believe the stat was ten years.

1442
01:10:39,640 --> 01:10:41,680
Speaker 2: Two playoff wins obviously did not get out of the

1443
01:10:41,680 --> 01:10:42,280
Speaker 2: divisional round.

1444
01:10:42,360 --> 01:10:42,800
Speaker 3: We know that.

1445
01:10:43,600 --> 01:10:45,960
Speaker 2: And I just sit there and say, like, I think

1446
01:10:46,080 --> 01:10:51,759
Speaker 2: everyone has this idea of Jerry as this maverick, free wheeling,

1447
01:10:51,960 --> 01:10:54,599
Speaker 2: unafraid to do anything. That's not who he has been

1448
01:10:55,080 --> 01:10:56,960
Speaker 2: the last ten to fifteen years. Now, if you want

1449
01:10:56,960 --> 01:11:00,679
Speaker 2: to say it's because he's you know, A because he's

1450
01:11:00,680 --> 01:11:04,320
Speaker 2: a he wants to keep a coach that's gonna be

1451
01:11:04,400 --> 01:11:06,240
Speaker 2: kind of a puppet for him, gonna be a guy

1452
01:11:06,320 --> 01:11:08,479
Speaker 2: that's gonna be a yes man. Whatever you want to

1453
01:11:08,520 --> 01:11:11,360
Speaker 2: say that, you know A Bill Belichick at Jim Harbaugh

1454
01:11:11,360 --> 01:11:13,160
Speaker 2: isn't gonna put up with his nonsense. Something you and

1455
01:11:13,160 --> 01:11:15,120
Speaker 2: I talked about last week. Whatever it is, I don't know.

1456
01:11:15,560 --> 01:11:18,960
Speaker 2: I don't know what his reasoning is, but that's just

1457
01:11:19,040 --> 01:11:21,920
Speaker 2: not who he's been. So I'm not surprised. I'm disappointed.

1458
01:11:22,320 --> 01:11:25,000
Speaker 2: I will say that because I think Jim Harball could

1459
01:11:25,000 --> 01:11:26,720
Speaker 2: get this same roster to a super Bowl next year.

1460
01:11:26,760 --> 01:11:29,599
Speaker 2: I think Bill Belichick with Josh McDaniels as his offensive

1461
01:11:29,640 --> 01:11:32,360
Speaker 2: coordinator could get this roster to a super Bowl next year.

1462
01:11:32,360 --> 01:11:34,360
Speaker 2: I think Mike Frable could get this guy this roster

1463
01:11:34,439 --> 01:11:36,880
Speaker 2: to a super Bowl next year. I do not think

1464
01:11:37,200 --> 01:11:39,200
Speaker 2: Mike McCarthy can get this team to a super Bowl

1465
01:11:39,240 --> 01:11:41,080
Speaker 2: next year, because we have a three year track record

1466
01:11:41,280 --> 01:11:43,400
Speaker 2: that he doesn't perform in the playoffs. And it's the

1467
01:11:43,439 --> 01:11:47,679
Speaker 2: same thing every year. It's penalties, it's lack of preparedness. Now,

1468
01:11:47,720 --> 01:11:49,600
Speaker 2: by the way, he still might lose. Dan Quinn, I

1469
01:11:49,640 --> 01:11:51,360
Speaker 2: don't even know if that's a loss or not anymore.

1470
01:11:51,640 --> 01:11:52,439
Speaker 2: I just bring it up.

1471
01:11:53,479 --> 01:11:54,840
Speaker 3: It's the old you know.

1472
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Speaker 2: It's almost like when you do something wrong and your

1473
01:11:57,320 --> 01:12:00,679
Speaker 2: parents say, I'm not mad, I'm just disappointed, right, That's

1474
01:12:00,720 --> 01:12:01,439
Speaker 2: got how I feel.

1475
01:12:01,560 --> 01:12:02,200
Speaker 3: I'm not mad.

1476
01:12:02,360 --> 01:12:05,920
Speaker 2: I'm just disappointed because it's like there are guys that

1477
01:12:05,960 --> 01:12:09,759
Speaker 2: we know are definitively better than McCarthy. I'm just bummed

1478
01:12:09,800 --> 01:12:11,519
Speaker 2: that we're not going to see those guys on the

1479
01:12:11,560 --> 01:12:14,400
Speaker 2: sidelines potentially helping this team reach its potential.

1480
01:12:14,760 --> 01:12:15,639
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean.

1481
01:12:17,280 --> 01:12:21,360
Speaker 6: McCarthy is a fine coach, but if you're not winning

1482
01:12:21,360 --> 01:12:23,840
Speaker 6: in the playoffs, what are you doing? I mean, the Cowboys,

1483
01:12:23,920 --> 01:12:26,960
Speaker 6: this is where they have not been able to succeed

1484
01:12:27,000 --> 01:12:31,040
Speaker 6: for such a long period of time and nothing seems

1485
01:12:31,120 --> 01:12:35,240
Speaker 6: to change and nothing seems to get better. And you

1486
01:12:35,360 --> 01:12:37,679
Speaker 6: mentioned some of the candidates and who they could get

1487
01:12:37,720 --> 01:12:41,880
Speaker 6: and all of this, I think that the Jerry Jones

1488
01:12:41,920 --> 01:12:43,960
Speaker 6: point is very important.

1489
01:12:44,240 --> 01:12:46,920
Speaker 5: That for all the talk of.

1490
01:12:47,560 --> 01:12:50,240
Speaker 6: You know how rebellious he is and how quick tempered

1491
01:12:50,280 --> 01:12:53,000
Speaker 6: he is, think about how long Jason Garrett was there

1492
01:12:53,479 --> 01:12:58,120
Speaker 6: not doing anything, and think about now McCarthy continuing to

1493
01:12:58,160 --> 01:13:01,360
Speaker 6: hold on to this gig. There is something different about

1494
01:13:01,479 --> 01:13:04,439
Speaker 6: Jerry Jones when he gets into a decision making process.

1495
01:13:05,000 --> 01:13:08,479
Speaker 6: You had an opportunity here to do something different in Dallas.

1496
01:13:08,640 --> 01:13:11,200
Speaker 6: And here is my takeaway. And I did text this

1497
01:13:11,240 --> 01:13:15,240
Speaker 6: to you at some point this past week. The Cowboys

1498
01:13:15,280 --> 01:13:19,439
Speaker 6: are now officially in James Harden territory. For me, I

1499
01:13:19,520 --> 01:13:25,840
Speaker 6: will not believe in them as a championship level organization

1500
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Speaker 6: until I see them win a championship. The only way

1501
01:13:30,160 --> 01:13:32,120
Speaker 6: that I could predict them to ever do it again

1502
01:13:33,000 --> 01:13:36,040
Speaker 6: is if I actually see them do it first. That's

1503
01:13:36,120 --> 01:13:39,920
Speaker 6: where we are because I got got this year. I said,

1504
01:13:39,920 --> 01:13:41,759
Speaker 6: oh I'm going to do it. I got got again,

1505
01:13:42,960 --> 01:13:47,240
Speaker 6: and it's not going to happen ever again. This was

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Speaker 6: the last time. I don't care if they go seventeen

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01:13:50,360 --> 01:13:53,400
Speaker 6: and oh, I will pick them to lose in the playoffs.

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01:13:53,840 --> 01:13:55,559
Speaker 6: They they're going to have to win a Super Bowl

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01:13:55,640 --> 01:13:58,040
Speaker 6: before I start picking them to win in the postseason anymore.

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01:13:58,160 --> 01:14:02,120
Speaker 6: Because this team, Green Bay's a good football team. We

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01:14:02,160 --> 01:14:08,120
Speaker 6: saw that again against San Francisco in the loss. That said,

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01:14:08,160 --> 01:14:11,600
Speaker 6: you can't go out like this, you can't get embarrassed

1513
01:14:11,720 --> 01:14:13,680
Speaker 6: like this. And the fact that you got embarrassed like

1514
01:14:13,720 --> 01:14:15,360
Speaker 6: this and you're just gonna run.

1515
01:14:15,160 --> 01:14:17,639
Speaker 5: It back, that to me is mind boggling.

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01:14:17,760 --> 01:14:19,559
Speaker 3: Yeah, and really quick, because we do got to get

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01:14:19,560 --> 01:14:20,320
Speaker 3: to Disagram. I mean that.

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01:14:20,400 --> 01:14:23,680
Speaker 2: That's what I'll wrap by saying, is I get I

1519
01:14:23,720 --> 01:14:27,000
Speaker 2: get the notion that Jerry, you know, is basically arguing

1520
01:14:27,040 --> 01:14:29,759
Speaker 2: three straight twelve win seasons never been done in Cowboys history.

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01:14:29,800 --> 01:14:31,280
Speaker 3: I believe that status correct.

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01:14:31,280 --> 01:14:33,280
Speaker 2: That could be wrong, but I just bring it up

1523
01:14:33,320 --> 01:14:37,000
Speaker 2: because listen, I don't want to say anyone could do it,

1524
01:14:37,960 --> 01:14:41,479
Speaker 2: but come on, now, you know Eagles fell apart late

1525
01:14:41,720 --> 01:14:45,200
Speaker 2: Giants and Washington stink. So that's five wins right there.

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01:14:45,880 --> 01:14:48,200
Speaker 2: I don't know, I will you get everyone gets the point.

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01:14:48,280 --> 01:14:52,880
Speaker 2: I'm I think we're both surprised, but not surprised. I'm

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01:14:52,920 --> 01:14:57,880
Speaker 2: just disappointed because I'm disappointed whenever, whether it's a college

1529
01:14:57,880 --> 01:15:01,479
Speaker 2: football program, an NFL team, or whatever, when when there

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01:15:01,560 --> 01:15:04,040
Speaker 2: is something so obvious that it's going to help them

1531
01:15:04,160 --> 01:15:07,559
Speaker 2: elevate them. When a team, a program or whatever has

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01:15:07,600 --> 01:15:10,080
Speaker 2: the opportunity to reach its potential and they don't, it's

1533
01:15:10,120 --> 01:15:13,160
Speaker 2: disappointing and I don't think this team with this current

1534
01:15:13,240 --> 01:15:15,559
Speaker 2: roster will reach his potential. With Mike McCarthy, Fox Sports

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Speaker 3: Take it away, my friend.

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01:15:55,040 --> 01:15:57,280
Speaker 8: Guys, I'll have a question about kickers for you in

1550
01:15:57,320 --> 01:15:57,679
Speaker 8: a moment.

1551
01:15:58,280 --> 01:15:58,479
Speaker 4: Boy.

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01:15:58,760 --> 01:16:02,240
Speaker 8: Suffice to say, after San Francisco eliminated Green Bay, tonight

1553
01:16:02,360 --> 01:16:05,160
Speaker 8: still the last team to be lowest seed in their

1554
01:16:05,200 --> 01:16:08,240
Speaker 8: conference but still wind up winning the Super Bowl Aaron

1555
01:16:08,320 --> 01:16:12,360
Speaker 8: Rodgers Packers in twenty ten. Kyle Shanahan advances he has

1556
01:16:12,479 --> 01:16:14,240
Speaker 8: yet to lose a home playoff game.

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01:16:14,320 --> 01:16:16,639
Speaker 2: By the way, I was gonna say one thing about kickers,

1558
01:16:16,640 --> 01:16:18,960
Speaker 2: one thing we haven't discussed at all on this show,

1559
01:16:19,640 --> 01:16:23,439
Speaker 2: a miss field goal late, but also in the woes

1560
01:16:23,439 --> 01:16:25,960
Speaker 2: it the first quarter deep in there, you know they

1561
01:16:25,960 --> 01:16:28,519
Speaker 2: had a chance to kick a field goal two and

1562
01:16:28,560 --> 01:16:29,120
Speaker 2: they went for it.

1563
01:16:29,160 --> 01:16:30,000
Speaker 3: What did they go for twice?

1564
01:16:30,080 --> 01:16:30,200
Speaker 6: Oh?

1565
01:16:30,240 --> 01:16:32,320
Speaker 8: No, the fourth and one they went for the other

1566
01:16:32,400 --> 01:16:34,040
Speaker 8: two They settled for two fe.

1567
01:16:34,080 --> 01:16:36,519
Speaker 2: Exactly exactly, So you know you had that chance to

1568
01:16:36,560 --> 01:16:38,200
Speaker 2: go for three early. It ends up being a three

1569
01:16:38,200 --> 01:16:38,680
Speaker 2: point game, and.

1570
01:16:39,080 --> 01:16:42,360
Speaker 8: I'm sure a Packer fan, not just Lafleur, would say

1571
01:16:42,520 --> 01:16:45,360
Speaker 8: I would argue the spot still on that fourth and

1572
01:16:45,400 --> 01:16:49,559
Speaker 8: one first half of the game. Nonetheless, that doesn't explain

1573
01:16:49,600 --> 01:16:52,200
Speaker 8: away your other two early drives where you settled for

1574
01:16:52,240 --> 01:16:55,479
Speaker 8: field goals and wound up losing by three. So Kyle

1575
01:16:55,520 --> 01:16:58,240
Speaker 8: Shanahan one of the few head coaches to be undefeated

1576
01:16:58,240 --> 01:17:01,320
Speaker 8: at home in the postseason by but he has yet

1577
01:17:01,320 --> 01:17:03,800
Speaker 8: to win the title. He has the highest postseason win

1578
01:17:03,880 --> 01:17:07,160
Speaker 8: percentage seven to three of any k coach without ever

1579
01:17:07,200 --> 01:17:10,120
Speaker 8: winning an NFL title, So stay tuned on that one.

1580
01:17:10,120 --> 01:17:13,120
Speaker 8: They'll be hosting the NFC Championship on Fox TV. It's

1581
01:17:13,160 --> 01:17:16,680
Speaker 8: the late of the two games next weekend. As far

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01:17:16,720 --> 01:17:21,720
Speaker 8: as kickers, should they be drafted at all, here is

1583
01:17:22,240 --> 01:17:25,360
Speaker 8: the evidence from this past year's draft. We had three

1584
01:17:25,479 --> 01:17:29,120
Speaker 8: kickers selected, the two that were in the game tonight,

1585
01:17:29,960 --> 01:17:34,439
Speaker 8: and the new England kicker Chad Ryland, who from forty

1586
01:17:34,520 --> 01:17:38,800
Speaker 8: yards and beyond went seven to fourteen. He was only

1587
01:17:38,880 --> 01:17:42,560
Speaker 8: fifty percent from forty yards and beyond for the Patriots

1588
01:17:42,560 --> 01:17:46,280
Speaker 8: this year. And this guy was drafted in the fourth round.

1589
01:17:46,640 --> 01:17:49,599
Speaker 8: Jake Moody of the Niners was drafted from Michigan late

1590
01:17:49,680 --> 01:17:53,200
Speaker 8: in the third round and really made Niners fans nervous

1591
01:17:53,240 --> 01:17:56,719
Speaker 8: with the preseason misses and then wound up very good

1592
01:17:56,760 --> 01:18:00,519
Speaker 8: for most of the regular season and then to kick

1593
01:18:00,520 --> 01:18:03,400
Speaker 8: in the regular season finale and had a kick blocked

1594
01:18:03,439 --> 01:18:06,479
Speaker 8: here at the end, and remember there was the extra point. Well,

1595
01:18:06,520 --> 01:18:09,680
Speaker 8: it's just let's get onto the Packers kicker, shall we,

1596
01:18:09,800 --> 01:18:14,120
Speaker 8: Because this guy, Andrews Carlson was taken sixth round out

1597
01:18:14,160 --> 01:18:20,040
Speaker 8: of Auburn inside forty yards perfect, I mean literally perfect

1598
01:18:20,040 --> 01:18:24,040
Speaker 8: twenty two for twenty two, including the two short ones

1599
01:18:24,040 --> 01:18:28,599
Speaker 8: tonight outside forty yards just like the new England kicker

1600
01:18:28,880 --> 01:18:32,000
Speaker 8: fifty percent and that's it. And yes, missed a forty

1601
01:18:32,040 --> 01:18:35,040
Speaker 8: one yarder in the rain with about six minutes to.

1602
01:18:35,000 --> 01:18:36,719
Speaker 3: Go, and they lose by three.

1603
01:18:36,840 --> 01:18:37,200
Speaker 5: Tonight.

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01:18:37,680 --> 01:18:41,720
Speaker 8: Brock perty with realistically his first game winning drive with

1605
01:18:41,840 --> 01:18:45,599
Speaker 8: San Francisco tonight. Technically he'd had one in a previous

1606
01:18:45,600 --> 01:18:47,920
Speaker 8: season where he'd kneeled down and then they kicked the

1607
01:18:47,960 --> 01:18:50,479
Speaker 8: field goal at overtime, but this they were trailing and

1608
01:18:50,520 --> 01:18:54,160
Speaker 8: facing elimination, and he was six of seven passing on

1609
01:18:54,200 --> 01:18:56,479
Speaker 8: that last drive nearly fifty yards and had a couple

1610
01:18:56,560 --> 01:19:00,439
Speaker 8: of runs Christian McCaffrey with the game go ahead, down

1611
01:19:00,479 --> 01:19:04,160
Speaker 8: with one seven to go. So let's not forget Niner's

1612
01:19:04,280 --> 01:19:07,320
Speaker 8: history of the past decade. These last five years phenomenal.

1613
01:19:07,800 --> 01:19:11,679
Speaker 8: The five years before that didn't finish over five hundred

1614
01:19:12,040 --> 01:19:15,040
Speaker 8: for five years in a row, trying Jim tom Sulla

1615
01:19:15,200 --> 01:19:18,880
Speaker 8: at coach and Chip Kelly and the start of Kyle Shanahan.

1616
01:19:19,280 --> 01:19:22,920
Speaker 8: Now these last five years they've made the NFC title

1617
01:19:22,960 --> 01:19:27,040
Speaker 8: game four of the five seasons, and remember in this

1618
01:19:27,680 --> 01:19:30,799
Speaker 8: stretch they had the fourth quarter lead against the Chiefs

1619
01:19:30,800 --> 01:19:31,479
Speaker 8: in a Super Bowl.

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01:19:31,520 --> 01:19:32,120
Speaker 5: A year ago.

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01:19:32,560 --> 01:19:35,360
Speaker 8: They had that very tight NFC title game, dropping the

1622
01:19:35,400 --> 01:19:38,320
Speaker 8: interception at the Rams. They had the injury, of course,

1623
01:19:38,360 --> 01:19:40,640
Speaker 8: and got blown out at Philadelphia last year in the

1624
01:19:40,720 --> 01:19:45,599
Speaker 8: NFC Championship. They'll be hosting the NFC Championship next weekend.

1625
01:19:45,640 --> 01:19:48,160
Speaker 8: The forty nine ers this season easily number one in

1626
01:19:48,240 --> 01:19:51,559
Speaker 8: passer rating and number one in yards per attempt, not

1627
01:19:51,680 --> 01:19:55,879
Speaker 8: in completions, over nine yards per attempt for that offense.

1628
01:19:56,040 --> 01:19:58,920
Speaker 8: This year, they were also the best in yards per catch.

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01:19:59,040 --> 01:20:02,120
Speaker 8: We saw the defense. San Francisco's defense tied for the

1630
01:20:02,120 --> 01:20:05,880
Speaker 8: most interceptions this season twenty two. Dre Greenlow had two

1631
01:20:05,960 --> 01:20:10,200
Speaker 8: more tonight. Green Bay faced a great NFC defense. They

1632
01:20:10,200 --> 01:20:13,840
Speaker 8: only allowed seventeen and a half points per game regular season.

1633
01:20:14,800 --> 01:20:16,040
Speaker 3: Thank you very much, Steve, you sick.

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01:20:16,439 --> 01:20:18,920
Speaker 2: Segur will be with us an hour four aer tors

1635
01:20:19,000 --> 01:20:21,160
Speaker 2: Jason Martin, Fox Sports Radio. When we come back, we

1636
01:20:21,160 --> 01:20:23,960
Speaker 2: will recap a busy night in the NFL and look

1637
01:20:23,960 --> 01:20:25,400
Speaker 2: ahead to two Sunday games.

1638
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Speaker 10: Fox Sports thirty welcome in everybody, our three torres and Martin,

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Speaker 2: Bertie Frado of The Bernie Fridos Show will follow us.

1646
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Speaker 2: He will have so much on an amazing day of

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01:21:05,720 --> 01:21:10,400
Speaker 2: football and also an amazing day to come in football

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01:21:10,479 --> 01:21:12,120
Speaker 2: as well. By the way, Jason and I will be

1649
01:21:12,120 --> 01:21:16,920
Speaker 2: previewing the two Sunday games, and just a few moments

1650
01:21:17,479 --> 01:21:19,840
Speaker 2: before we do that, though, let's wrap and put a

1651
01:21:20,080 --> 01:21:28,280
Speaker 2: bow on everything that happened on Saturday should mention. By

1652
01:21:28,280 --> 01:21:29,920
Speaker 2: the way, and I know you know this, Jason, but

1653
01:21:30,080 --> 01:21:32,559
Speaker 2: Trent Williams to join us of the San Francisco forty

1654
01:21:32,640 --> 01:21:34,479
Speaker 2: nine Ers following their win, So if you missed it,

1655
01:21:34,720 --> 01:21:37,679
Speaker 2: make sure to download the podcast. San Francisco Wins twenty

1656
01:21:37,880 --> 01:21:41,720
Speaker 2: four to twenty one. The late game, certainly the more

1657
01:21:41,760 --> 01:21:45,200
Speaker 2: compelling game, came down to the wire. The San Francisco

1658
01:21:45,280 --> 01:21:48,920
Speaker 2: forty nine Ers trailed late in this game. A late

1659
01:21:49,040 --> 01:21:52,160
Speaker 2: touchdown by Christian McCaffrey on what was essentially the final

1660
01:21:52,240 --> 01:21:55,120
Speaker 2: drive a minute seven to go, a six hour touchdown

1661
01:21:55,200 --> 01:21:58,639
Speaker 2: run really set up by a very nice series by

1662
01:21:58,640 --> 01:22:02,360
Speaker 2: Brock Purdy, multiple first down completions, a nine yard run

1663
01:22:02,360 --> 01:22:05,840
Speaker 2: which set up that six yard touchdown run. San Francisco

1664
01:22:06,040 --> 01:22:09,200
Speaker 2: does not play its best football, even Trent Williams said that,

1665
01:22:09,200 --> 01:22:11,519
Speaker 2: that's not even our words. Trent Williams himself said that,

1666
01:22:12,800 --> 01:22:15,479
Speaker 2: but they get the win, they survive, they advance to

1667
01:22:15,560 --> 01:22:19,439
Speaker 2: their third straight NFC Championship game, where they will of

1668
01:22:19,520 --> 01:22:22,639
Speaker 2: course face the winner of tomorrow or Sunday, I should

1669
01:22:22,640 --> 01:22:28,840
Speaker 2: say Sunday's Tampa Bay Detroit Gamecheez yeah.

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01:22:29,520 --> 01:22:31,439
Speaker 6: I mean, if you watch the game, you know that

1671
01:22:31,520 --> 01:22:34,000
Speaker 6: they didn't play their best football. But they're still playing

1672
01:22:34,040 --> 01:22:37,479
Speaker 6: football and that's what counts. And Trent Williams, if you

1673
01:22:37,520 --> 01:22:39,679
Speaker 6: listen to that interview on the podcast, you will hear

1674
01:22:39,760 --> 01:22:44,120
Speaker 6: in his voice and in his tone that he knows

1675
01:22:44,240 --> 01:22:45,960
Speaker 6: that they didn't play that well and that they're going

1676
01:22:46,000 --> 01:22:47,720
Speaker 6: to have to play better. He says it verbatim as

1677
01:22:47,760 --> 01:22:49,760
Speaker 6: a matter of fact, and answer to one of our questions,

1678
01:22:51,120 --> 01:22:52,720
Speaker 6: if they want to beat the Lions or the Bucks

1679
01:22:52,760 --> 01:22:54,599
Speaker 6: the way Tampa Bays play, they're gonna have to play

1680
01:22:54,600 --> 01:22:56,320
Speaker 6: better than that, and certainly if they want to beat

1681
01:22:56,360 --> 01:22:59,160
Speaker 6: whoever comes out of AFC, they're going to have to

1682
01:22:59,160 --> 01:23:03,000
Speaker 6: play better than that. But they played well enough and

1683
01:23:03,160 --> 01:23:05,680
Speaker 6: got enough breaks to go their way. You had two

1684
01:23:05,720 --> 01:23:07,920
Speaker 6: interceptions from the Packers and one thing we have not

1685
01:23:08,080 --> 01:23:11,439
Speaker 6: talked about thus far. We said some kind stuff about

1686
01:23:11,479 --> 01:23:13,519
Speaker 6: brock Party, even though we also say him play very

1687
01:23:13,520 --> 01:23:15,920
Speaker 6: well tonight outside of that last drive, which is all

1688
01:23:15,960 --> 01:23:18,960
Speaker 6: the matters ultimately because you end up winning the football game.

1689
01:23:19,439 --> 01:23:23,479
Speaker 6: But there were probably at least two passes that he

1690
01:23:23,640 --> 01:23:26,599
Speaker 6: threw that could have been picked off, one that might

1691
01:23:26,600 --> 01:23:30,160
Speaker 6: have gone all the way. So the Packers dropped a

1692
01:23:30,200 --> 01:23:34,679
Speaker 6: few opportunities to have maybe extended this lead out put

1693
01:23:34,680 --> 01:23:39,160
Speaker 6: themselves in better position. And that kind of thing happens too.

1694
01:23:39,439 --> 01:23:41,800
Speaker 6: Sometimes the breaks do have to go your way, and

1695
01:23:41,840 --> 01:23:45,320
Speaker 6: sometimes there's a quarterback who makes a few mistakes, but

1696
01:23:45,439 --> 01:23:48,479
Speaker 6: you can't take advantage of them, and as a result,

1697
01:23:48,760 --> 01:23:51,280
Speaker 6: you come up short. And that's what you saw. The

1698
01:23:51,280 --> 01:23:53,960
Speaker 6: Packers had the opportunity to win this game. In fact,

1699
01:23:54,000 --> 01:23:56,720
Speaker 6: it was in their grasp. They looked to be the

1700
01:23:56,760 --> 01:24:01,040
Speaker 6: aggressors right up until they lost the game, and that's

1701
01:24:01,120 --> 01:24:04,320
Speaker 6: that's that's all that matters, is that at the end

1702
01:24:04,800 --> 01:24:07,719
Speaker 6: of sixty minutes, the team that was playing at home

1703
01:24:08,240 --> 01:24:09,559
Speaker 6: is still playing football.

1704
01:24:10,080 --> 01:24:12,439
Speaker 2: You know, what you just said kind of reminds me

1705
01:24:12,680 --> 01:24:15,760
Speaker 2: of what we just saw in college football with Michigan,

1706
01:24:15,840 --> 01:24:18,759
Speaker 2: where you know, you go back to that Rose Bowl,

1707
01:24:20,080 --> 01:24:22,439
Speaker 2: you know, everything went wrong and Jason, you and I

1708
01:24:22,479 --> 01:24:24,880
Speaker 2: did the four hour postgame show. We were filling in

1709
01:24:24,880 --> 01:24:26,960
Speaker 2: for Jason and Mike that night. I can't remember all

1710
01:24:26,960 --> 01:24:30,439
Speaker 2: the details, but you know, literally an interception on the

1711
01:24:30,479 --> 01:24:34,439
Speaker 2: first play that is overturned in their favor. A lot

1712
01:24:34,439 --> 01:24:36,720
Speaker 2: of weird stuff goes their way. They don't play a

1713
01:24:36,720 --> 01:24:38,800
Speaker 2: great game, but they find a way to win, they

1714
01:24:38,800 --> 01:24:41,200
Speaker 2: find a way to advance. They end up beating Washington

1715
01:24:41,200 --> 01:24:45,360
Speaker 2: winning the national championship. Nobody's gonna remember, Oh, they had

1716
01:24:45,560 --> 01:24:49,560
Speaker 2: eleven penalties for one hundred and nineteen yards against Alabama,

1717
01:24:49,640 --> 01:24:51,880
Speaker 2: and they easily could have lost to Alabama. I mean

1718
01:24:51,920 --> 01:24:54,559
Speaker 2: you might you might remember that in passing that you

1719
01:24:54,600 --> 01:24:56,160
Speaker 2: know that it wasn't the best day and they might

1720
01:24:56,200 --> 01:24:59,120
Speaker 2: have lost to Alabama, But all you remember is that

1721
01:24:59,160 --> 01:25:01,400
Speaker 2: they hoisted that at the end of the season, and

1722
01:25:01,479 --> 01:25:04,040
Speaker 2: so San Francisco obviously has two more games. I'm not

1723
01:25:04,080 --> 01:25:08,040
Speaker 2: saying that just because they survive this one that all

1724
01:25:08,040 --> 01:25:09,960
Speaker 2: of a sudden we're gonna sit there and say like

1725
01:25:10,320 --> 01:25:12,639
Speaker 2: that they're definitively gonna win the Super Bowl. They're gonna

1726
01:25:12,640 --> 01:25:15,120
Speaker 2: have a tough challenge next week, and obviously could be

1727
01:25:15,160 --> 01:25:17,920
Speaker 2: facing a Baltimore team down the road. You know, whoever

1728
01:25:17,960 --> 01:25:19,920
Speaker 2: they face from the AFC, I think at this point,

1729
01:25:20,120 --> 01:25:21,880
Speaker 2: I think it's safe to say is going to be

1730
01:25:22,680 --> 01:25:26,320
Speaker 2: an interesting challenge, whether it is a Kansas City team

1731
01:25:26,400 --> 01:25:28,120
Speaker 2: that they faced in the Super Bowl a few years ago,

1732
01:25:28,200 --> 01:25:30,800
Speaker 2: Buffalo with Josh Allen, or of course Lamar Jackson who

1733
01:25:30,800 --> 01:25:32,920
Speaker 2: they just lost to in the Baltimore Ravens a few

1734
01:25:32,960 --> 01:25:35,439
Speaker 2: weeks ago. But the point I'm trying to make is,

1735
01:25:35,880 --> 01:25:38,400
Speaker 2: you know, not every game is perfect. Not every game

1736
01:25:38,520 --> 01:25:41,920
Speaker 2: is what Baltimore did to Houston today, where maybe it's

1737
01:25:41,960 --> 01:25:44,120
Speaker 2: close for a quarter and a half, two and a

1738
01:25:44,160 --> 01:25:46,880
Speaker 2: half quarters, then you pull away. Sometimes you do need

1739
01:25:46,920 --> 01:25:49,080
Speaker 2: to win those games that are ugly, but find a way.

1740
01:25:49,200 --> 01:25:52,479
Speaker 2: And the one thing I will say is that what

1741
01:25:52,720 --> 01:25:56,519
Speaker 2: is I think cool from our perspective, And we open

1742
01:25:56,600 --> 01:25:58,599
Speaker 2: the show, the game was still going on and brock

1743
01:25:58,680 --> 01:26:02,679
Speaker 2: Purdy was struggling. Is you can't sit there and say

1744
01:26:03,120 --> 01:26:06,800
Speaker 2: that there was any one thing that like, like, San

1745
01:26:06,840 --> 01:26:09,960
Speaker 2: Francisco deserve to win that game. It was ugly, but

1746
01:26:10,000 --> 01:26:13,120
Speaker 2: they deserve to win again, kind of like Michigan against Alabama.

1747
01:26:13,240 --> 01:26:16,360
Speaker 2: There wasn't a weird penalty. There wasn't a weird roughing

1748
01:26:16,439 --> 01:26:18,800
Speaker 2: the passer that gave them a first down, that this,

1749
01:26:18,880 --> 01:26:21,439
Speaker 2: that the other thing. It's like, it wasn't pretty, but

1750
01:26:21,520 --> 01:26:23,680
Speaker 2: they were the better team. They made the plays when

1751
01:26:23,680 --> 01:26:25,640
Speaker 2: they had to, and they survived. So I know, I

1752
01:26:25,680 --> 01:26:27,960
Speaker 2: just went in about twenty five different directions there, Jason,

1753
01:26:27,960 --> 01:26:31,720
Speaker 2: But that's the biggest takeaway. There's nothing fluky. They made

1754
01:26:31,720 --> 01:26:34,519
Speaker 2: the plays when they had to. They survive. Now they

1755
01:26:34,600 --> 01:26:37,680
Speaker 2: host the NFC Championship Game with about as healthy as

1756
01:26:37,680 --> 01:26:39,599
Speaker 2: a roster as you can ask for. We'll see obviously

1757
01:26:39,680 --> 01:26:42,240
Speaker 2: what happens with Deebo Samuel, but obviously coming out of

1758
01:26:42,320 --> 01:26:44,960
Speaker 2: last year where where you know, so many injuries in

1759
01:26:44,960 --> 01:26:48,960
Speaker 2: that NFC Championship game, you know, gotta feel good if

1760
01:26:48,960 --> 01:26:49,800
Speaker 2: you're a forty nine Ers fan.

1761
01:26:50,240 --> 01:26:54,439
Speaker 6: Yeah, again, everybody on their road to a championship and

1762
01:26:54,520 --> 01:26:56,320
Speaker 6: we don't know how this is going to end. But

1763
01:26:56,400 --> 01:26:59,479
Speaker 6: if it does end with a championship, I don't know

1764
01:26:59,520 --> 01:27:03,040
Speaker 6: how many. I'm sure there are examples, but very few

1765
01:27:03,080 --> 01:27:07,000
Speaker 6: teams go through unscathed and just look dominant week after

1766
01:27:07,080 --> 01:27:09,320
Speaker 6: week after week after week. There's a reason why there's

1767
01:27:09,320 --> 01:27:12,639
Speaker 6: never been another undefeated team that's won a Super Bowl

1768
01:27:12,640 --> 01:27:14,639
Speaker 6: in the history of the NFL because it's.

1769
01:27:14,560 --> 01:27:15,880
Speaker 5: Really really hard to do.

1770
01:27:16,000 --> 01:27:18,519
Speaker 6: I mean, this San Francisco team, let's say they go

1771
01:27:18,560 --> 01:27:21,240
Speaker 6: win the Super Bowl. We know they didn't have their

1772
01:27:21,240 --> 01:27:23,160
Speaker 6: best stuff against Green Bay, but remember what happened to

1773
01:27:23,200 --> 01:27:26,360
Speaker 6: them against Baltimore. Like if there's a rematch and they

1774
01:27:26,360 --> 01:27:30,040
Speaker 6: beat Baltimore, I mean, they got absolutely annihilated by the

1775
01:27:30,120 --> 01:27:33,720
Speaker 6: Ravens in that game, and coming out of it, you

1776
01:27:33,760 --> 01:27:36,760
Speaker 6: didn't know what to make of it. But again, they're

1777
01:27:36,800 --> 01:27:39,559
Speaker 6: still playing and they have one more game to get

1778
01:27:39,800 --> 01:27:42,280
Speaker 6: to a super Bowl, and if they win two more,

1779
01:27:42,680 --> 01:27:46,040
Speaker 6: then they've won the Super Bowl. So there's ebbs and flows,

1780
01:27:46,040 --> 01:27:48,799
Speaker 6: there's ups and downs. A lot of it sometimes depends

1781
01:27:48,800 --> 01:27:51,880
Speaker 6: on who's healthy and at what time. And then you

1782
01:27:51,920 --> 01:27:53,360
Speaker 6: just look at the structure and you look at the

1783
01:27:53,439 --> 01:27:55,400
Speaker 6: horses and you say, all right, well, if this guy

1784
01:27:55,439 --> 01:27:57,880
Speaker 6: didn't have it on this day, then who can pick

1785
01:27:57,960 --> 01:28:00,600
Speaker 6: up the slack? And I think that one answer that

1786
01:28:00,640 --> 01:28:03,400
Speaker 6: you have when it comes to the forty nine ers

1787
01:28:03,439 --> 01:28:05,760
Speaker 6: is if brock Party doesn't have it, then a lot

1788
01:28:05,760 --> 01:28:08,439
Speaker 6: of times Christian McCaffrey does as long as the offensive

1789
01:28:08,439 --> 01:28:10,400
Speaker 6: line is blocking for me. And the offensive line wasn't great.

1790
01:28:10,439 --> 01:28:12,719
Speaker 6: And of course Trung talked about something Yah.

1791
01:28:12,560 --> 01:28:13,160
Speaker 5: Go ahead.

1792
01:28:14,040 --> 01:28:16,000
Speaker 2: The big question is, you know, what if brock Party

1793
01:28:16,040 --> 01:28:18,640
Speaker 2: doesn't have it? What if he does though, like, like

1794
01:28:18,960 --> 01:28:22,320
Speaker 2: you know, they win that game at home against a

1795
01:28:22,439 --> 01:28:26,680
Speaker 2: game Packers team that just destroyed Dallas in Dallas, Like

1796
01:28:26,760 --> 01:28:29,839
Speaker 2: what if brock Party does come out slinging and instead

1797
01:28:29,840 --> 01:28:33,840
Speaker 2: of being twenty three of thirty nine, he's twenty nine

1798
01:28:34,000 --> 01:28:37,439
Speaker 2: of thirty six or whatever, Like you know, I mean,

1799
01:28:37,439 --> 01:28:39,519
Speaker 2: this is a guy that over the course of the

1800
01:28:39,520 --> 01:28:43,200
Speaker 2: regular season did complete seventy percent of his passes and

1801
01:28:43,240 --> 01:28:46,320
Speaker 2: so like that's the other part too, is is everybody

1802
01:28:46,360 --> 01:28:48,360
Speaker 2: wants to tear down brock Party and this and that,

1803
01:28:48,400 --> 01:28:50,360
Speaker 2: but it's like what if it does click?

1804
01:28:50,720 --> 01:28:52,560
Speaker 3: I just I don't know.

1805
01:28:52,600 --> 01:28:54,080
Speaker 2: I didn't mean to cut you off, but I think

1806
01:28:54,080 --> 01:28:57,679
Speaker 2: that's something to consider. Is I think everyone's talking about

1807
01:28:57,680 --> 01:29:02,320
Speaker 2: this as if you know, like we saw like like like,

1808
01:29:03,479 --> 01:29:06,360
Speaker 2: I think there's a lot of people that, because of

1809
01:29:06,560 --> 01:29:09,120
Speaker 2: and we've talked about this, how people feel about brock Perdy,

1810
01:29:09,479 --> 01:29:12,559
Speaker 2: they act as though, because of their personal bias, that

1811
01:29:12,600 --> 01:29:16,800
Speaker 2: he is incapable of playing like an A plus game

1812
01:29:16,920 --> 01:29:19,440
Speaker 2: against a team that matters, in a game that matters.

1813
01:29:19,720 --> 01:29:21,920
Speaker 2: But imagine if he does. Imagine if it isn't again

1814
01:29:22,040 --> 01:29:25,120
Speaker 2: twenty nine of twenty three of thirty nine, but instead

1815
01:29:25,160 --> 01:29:26,880
Speaker 2: it's thirty one of thirty nine.

1816
01:29:27,120 --> 01:29:27,479
Speaker 3: I don't know.

1817
01:29:27,520 --> 01:29:30,679
Speaker 2: I just think, you know, it's not just across the board.

1818
01:29:30,680 --> 01:29:32,360
Speaker 2: They need to be better, Like there's a lot of

1819
01:29:32,439 --> 01:29:34,080
Speaker 2: room for that dude to grow.

1820
01:29:34,439 --> 01:29:35,599
Speaker 3: And if he does, watch out.

1821
01:29:36,000 --> 01:29:41,360
Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean that's true for all but pretty much

1822
01:29:41,400 --> 01:29:45,240
Speaker 6: one drive against Green Bay, he didn't have it and

1823
01:29:45,240 --> 01:29:46,360
Speaker 6: they still won the game.

1824
01:29:47,000 --> 01:29:49,800
Speaker 5: And my point being, you know, you have McCaffrey there.

1825
01:29:49,920 --> 01:29:52,280
Speaker 6: McCaffrey doesn't have one hundred on the ground, but he

1826
01:29:52,320 --> 01:29:54,200
Speaker 6: has almost one hundred and thirty all purpose, and he

1827
01:29:54,200 --> 01:29:57,519
Speaker 6: has a couple of touchdowns, including the eventual game winner.

1828
01:29:59,439 --> 01:30:02,160
Speaker 6: But if you you actually come to a game where

1829
01:30:02,200 --> 01:30:06,080
Speaker 6: you have McCaffrey being McCaffrey and Purty dialed in with

1830
01:30:06,160 --> 01:30:09,040
Speaker 6: those receivers, and Kittle's not dropping a pass here and there,

1831
01:30:09,120 --> 01:30:13,240
Speaker 6: and Deebo is healthy, and Juwan's doing Jawan things, and

1832
01:30:13,360 --> 01:30:16,640
Speaker 6: Ayuk is out there doing his thing, and Shanahan is

1833
01:30:16,800 --> 01:30:20,240
Speaker 6: just knocking them out of the park with every play call.

1834
01:30:20,840 --> 01:30:25,160
Speaker 6: They're pretty much unbeatable. And that's the thing. You can

1835
01:30:25,200 --> 01:30:27,559
Speaker 6: come up to a spot where, all right, the quarterback,

1836
01:30:27,720 --> 01:30:30,760
Speaker 6: how many how many teams in the NFL? Truly, how

1837
01:30:30,760 --> 01:30:33,599
Speaker 6: many teams in the NFL Aaron can come up.

1838
01:30:33,520 --> 01:30:36,080
Speaker 5: With a I don't know. I'd even go maybe be.

1839
01:30:36,120 --> 01:30:40,040
Speaker 6: Mindes c plus effort at best from their quarterback and

1840
01:30:40,120 --> 01:30:42,960
Speaker 6: still win the game against a good football team in

1841
01:30:43,040 --> 01:30:43,720
Speaker 6: the playoffs.

1842
01:30:43,960 --> 01:30:44,680
Speaker 3: Not a whole lot.

1843
01:30:44,920 --> 01:30:47,920
Speaker 2: Let's just how about tomorrow? I would say three out

1844
01:30:47,920 --> 01:30:50,799
Speaker 2: of four. The only team that I think can survive

1845
01:30:51,040 --> 01:30:54,600
Speaker 2: a media a below average game from their quarterback is

1846
01:30:54,640 --> 01:30:58,800
Speaker 2: probably Detroit. But Tampa can't, not with big field.

1847
01:30:58,880 --> 01:30:59,720
Speaker 5: Definitely not right.

1848
01:30:59,760 --> 01:31:01,400
Speaker 3: And I don't think KC can.

1849
01:31:01,720 --> 01:31:04,280
Speaker 2: You know, I know that Patrick Mahomes didn't have to

1850
01:31:04,320 --> 01:31:08,000
Speaker 2: be great the other day, and we know certainly Buffalo

1851
01:31:08,080 --> 01:31:12,280
Speaker 2: cannot without Josh Allen is the offense. So just as

1852
01:31:12,320 --> 01:31:16,200
Speaker 2: an example, I don't think three of the four teams

1853
01:31:16,479 --> 01:31:19,160
Speaker 2: that are playing tomorrow could have played, could have had

1854
01:31:19,200 --> 01:31:22,760
Speaker 2: that kind of performance from their quarterback and expected to win.

1855
01:31:23,280 --> 01:31:25,240
Speaker 2: You can look at it as a negative as brock

1856
01:31:25,280 --> 01:31:27,479
Speaker 2: perty isn't Josh Allen, Patrick, Mahomes whatever.

1857
01:31:27,840 --> 01:31:28,879
Speaker 3: Look at it as a positive.

1858
01:31:28,960 --> 01:31:32,400
Speaker 2: Like I said, if everything else clicks and that guy

1859
01:31:32,439 --> 01:31:34,880
Speaker 2: plays better, all of a sudden, that twenty four to

1860
01:31:34,920 --> 01:31:37,160
Speaker 2: twenty one win probably becomes thirty one to twenty one,

1861
01:31:37,160 --> 01:31:37,879
Speaker 2: and it is even.

1862
01:31:37,680 --> 01:31:40,080
Speaker 6: That close, right, And if you have and what I

1863
01:31:40,120 --> 01:31:42,200
Speaker 6: hope that we if it does come down, if it

1864
01:31:42,280 --> 01:31:44,000
Speaker 6: ends up being the two number one seeds, it come

1865
01:31:44,000 --> 01:31:46,240
Speaker 6: out and I don't know, we're not gonna make those

1866
01:31:46,240 --> 01:31:49,080
Speaker 6: predictions yet. But if you do get the rematch of

1867
01:31:49,160 --> 01:31:53,240
Speaker 6: Baltimore and San Francisco, imagine if you got the A

1868
01:31:53,400 --> 01:31:56,240
Speaker 6: game out of everybody, if you got the A game

1869
01:31:56,280 --> 01:31:58,439
Speaker 6: out of Lamar, if you got the A game out

1870
01:31:58,439 --> 01:32:00,240
Speaker 6: of McCaffrey, You've got the A game out of the

1871
01:32:00,280 --> 01:32:03,639
Speaker 6: San Francisco receivers out of Odell Mark Andrews coming back

1872
01:32:03,640 --> 01:32:06,519
Speaker 6: from injury and he's ready to go. The defenses, we

1873
01:32:06,600 --> 01:32:10,000
Speaker 6: know what they're capable of. Everybody playing at their best.

1874
01:32:10,560 --> 01:32:12,960
Speaker 6: First off, I don't know who winds the game. Second off,

1875
01:32:13,040 --> 01:32:15,120
Speaker 6: you have one of the all time greatest football games

1876
01:32:15,120 --> 01:32:16,720
Speaker 6: that you've ever seen, and I don't even know if

1877
01:32:16,720 --> 01:32:18,960
Speaker 6: it's a high scoring I have no idea how that

1878
01:32:19,040 --> 01:32:22,240
Speaker 6: game even looks most of the time, and in fact,

1879
01:32:22,280 --> 01:32:24,519
Speaker 6: pretty much I don't know that it's ever happened where

1880
01:32:24,560 --> 01:32:28,800
Speaker 6: everybody's been dialed in on both sides. But you do

1881
01:32:28,920 --> 01:32:32,840
Speaker 6: have there's some margin for error with your quarterback in

1882
01:32:32,880 --> 01:32:35,679
Speaker 6: San Francisco, where every drive he didn't have to do everything.

1883
01:32:35,800 --> 01:32:38,799
Speaker 6: That wasn't the case with the Chargers. Just as one example,

1884
01:32:39,080 --> 01:32:41,840
Speaker 6: if Herbert didn't do it every time, they were gonna

1885
01:32:41,840 --> 01:32:44,559
Speaker 6: get beat, what did we see at USC? And sometimes

1886
01:32:44,560 --> 01:32:46,559
Speaker 6: it wasn't even enough when he was doing it all,

1887
01:32:46,920 --> 01:32:51,080
Speaker 6: But when Caleb Williams had two empty drives, USC got

1888
01:32:51,120 --> 01:32:55,360
Speaker 6: beat because he was everything for them. San Francisco does

1889
01:32:55,400 --> 01:32:58,839
Speaker 6: not have to throw one hundred percent of its impact,

1890
01:32:59,160 --> 01:33:02,320
Speaker 6: and it's pressure behind the quarterback. All a quarterback has

1891
01:33:02,360 --> 01:33:05,000
Speaker 6: to do is not turned the ball over four or

1892
01:33:05,000 --> 01:33:08,080
Speaker 6: five times and find his way to make a couple

1893
01:33:08,120 --> 01:33:10,200
Speaker 6: of crucial plays. And that's what he did. Like he

1894
01:33:10,320 --> 01:33:12,680
Speaker 6: wasn't great for about three and a half quarters. And

1895
01:33:12,720 --> 01:33:15,360
Speaker 6: then you get to the last drive he scrambles for one,

1896
01:33:15,720 --> 01:33:17,800
Speaker 6: he throws for two or three would have been three,

1897
01:33:17,840 --> 01:33:19,840
Speaker 6: but Kittle dropped one, and then he followed that up

1898
01:33:19,880 --> 01:33:23,800
Speaker 6: by hitting another one. So that's all you need from him.

1899
01:33:23,920 --> 01:33:26,800
Speaker 6: He isn't asked to be Harry Potter the way some

1900
01:33:26,840 --> 01:33:27,920
Speaker 6: of these other guys.

1901
01:33:27,640 --> 01:33:30,320
Speaker 3: Are zero dowt.

1902
01:33:30,439 --> 01:33:33,639
Speaker 2: Do you have any major takeaways from the first games

1903
01:33:34,040 --> 01:33:36,040
Speaker 2: or excuse me before we you know we don't. I

1904
01:33:36,040 --> 01:33:37,880
Speaker 2: don't think we have to really break down the first game.

1905
01:33:37,920 --> 01:33:40,280
Speaker 2: I didn't want to quickly ask you about Green Bay.

1906
01:33:42,680 --> 01:33:45,439
Speaker 2: You know, I understand this is the pros. There's no

1907
01:33:45,520 --> 01:33:50,479
Speaker 2: moral victories in professional sports. But quarterback in his first

1908
01:33:50,520 --> 01:33:52,800
Speaker 2: year as a starter, nobody knew what to expect. I

1909
01:33:52,840 --> 01:33:54,920
Speaker 2: think even at the halfway point of the season, we're

1910
01:33:55,040 --> 01:33:58,599
Speaker 2: questioning is this the guy. Well, he closes back half

1911
01:33:58,600 --> 01:34:01,800
Speaker 2: of the season, wins it Detroit Thanksgiving Day, beats Patrick

1912
01:34:01,840 --> 01:34:04,120
Speaker 2: Mahomes head to head on Sunday Night Football, which leads

1913
01:34:04,120 --> 01:34:06,519
Speaker 2: into a big win in Dallas. And oh, by the way,

1914
01:34:06,560 --> 01:34:10,400
Speaker 2: you're super young at the skill positions, you're super young

1915
01:34:10,560 --> 01:34:15,280
Speaker 2: on the defense. You want to win the game, and

1916
01:34:15,320 --> 01:34:17,240
Speaker 2: you could have won the game, and some might say

1917
01:34:17,240 --> 01:34:19,200
Speaker 2: you maybe even should have won the game. But I

1918
01:34:19,200 --> 01:34:22,240
Speaker 2: think there are so many positives for the Green Bay Packers,

1919
01:34:22,479 --> 01:34:25,200
Speaker 2: and I don't know how you can't be excited by

1920
01:34:25,200 --> 01:34:27,160
Speaker 2: the way, if you're one of the three other teams

1921
01:34:27,160 --> 01:34:29,800
Speaker 2: in the NFC North. Maybe if you're a Detroit Lions fan,

1922
01:34:29,840 --> 01:34:31,960
Speaker 2: you don't really care because you're so fired up about tomorrow.

1923
01:34:32,240 --> 01:34:34,639
Speaker 2: But if you're a Bears fan, if you're a Vikings fan,

1924
01:34:34,720 --> 01:34:38,800
Speaker 2: and it looks like the Packers hit again with another quarterback,

1925
01:34:38,960 --> 01:34:41,760
Speaker 2: another really good head coach, which I don't even think

1926
01:34:41,760 --> 01:34:45,280
Speaker 2: we fully dove into an hour one Jason, I don't

1927
01:34:45,320 --> 01:34:48,519
Speaker 2: know how you can't. Packers fans probably don't feel good,

1928
01:34:48,560 --> 01:34:50,840
Speaker 2: but I also don't know how you can't feel good

1929
01:34:50,920 --> 01:34:53,720
Speaker 2: in the bigger picture, just based on everything we've seen

1930
01:34:53,720 --> 01:34:55,639
Speaker 2: about the last six to eight weeks with this organization.

1931
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Speaker 5: Yeah, I think that's right.

1932
01:34:58,120 --> 01:35:00,840
Speaker 6: That's absolutely one hundred percent Tree. As a matter of fact,

1933
01:35:00,920 --> 01:35:05,040
Speaker 6: I just I think that there's something to be said

1934
01:35:05,080 --> 01:35:07,680
Speaker 6: for the quality of the organizations that we've seen in

1935
01:35:07,720 --> 01:35:09,599
Speaker 6: the past couple of weeks. I mean, and there's some

1936
01:35:09,680 --> 01:35:12,640
Speaker 6: that have also been playing with house money. Also, like

1937
01:35:13,120 --> 01:35:15,320
Speaker 6: we spent a lot of time talking about San Francisco,

1938
01:35:15,439 --> 01:35:17,000
Speaker 6: and of course we spent a lot of time talking

1939
01:35:17,040 --> 01:35:21,200
Speaker 6: about Baltimore. We haven't talked at all about the Houston Texans.

1940
01:35:21,840 --> 01:35:24,720
Speaker 6: The Houston Texas has been been a walking joke, and

1941
01:35:24,760 --> 01:35:28,080
Speaker 6: here they are. The Packers could have retreated into the cellar,

1942
01:35:28,160 --> 01:35:31,040
Speaker 6: and here they are. You look at some teams and

1943
01:35:31,080 --> 01:35:34,160
Speaker 6: how fast they were able to turn the corner. And

1944
01:35:34,200 --> 01:35:37,080
Speaker 6: it's not all rookie quarterback contracts and all this, although

1945
01:35:37,120 --> 01:35:39,400
Speaker 6: if you find your way into the right rookie that's

1946
01:35:39,439 --> 01:35:42,960
Speaker 6: ready to go, then you put yourself in the right spot.

1947
01:35:43,280 --> 01:35:47,160
Speaker 6: But there is something to be said for going with

1948
01:35:47,240 --> 01:35:51,479
Speaker 6: a vision, understanding an identity, and building a culture around it.

1949
01:35:51,600 --> 01:35:55,240
Speaker 6: You've seen that in Detroit. You see that right now

1950
01:35:55,680 --> 01:35:59,000
Speaker 6: in Houston with Demiko Ryans and Bobby Sloweck and everybody

1951
01:35:59,040 --> 01:36:02,800
Speaker 6: that's associated with this experiment and what CJ. Stroud was

1952
01:36:02,800 --> 01:36:05,960
Speaker 6: this year. There are there's just something about certain organizations.

1953
01:36:06,040 --> 01:36:08,679
Speaker 6: You look at San Francisco not having to put everything

1954
01:36:08,720 --> 01:36:12,800
Speaker 6: behind brock Purty well because they built that team really,

1955
01:36:12,840 --> 01:36:15,400
Speaker 6: really well and they made good moves. And you heard

1956
01:36:15,439 --> 01:36:18,200
Speaker 6: Trent Williams say, think about what we got Christian McCaffrey for.

1957
01:36:19,040 --> 01:36:21,640
Speaker 6: They said that to us in that interview, like the

1958
01:36:21,680 --> 01:36:23,280
Speaker 6: way that they got him, they didn't have to give

1959
01:36:23,360 --> 01:36:25,400
Speaker 6: up the world for him, and they brought him in

1960
01:36:25,400 --> 01:36:27,840
Speaker 6: and he might have been the missing piece. He came

1961
01:36:27,920 --> 01:36:31,639
Speaker 6: to already made roster that was just ready to welcome

1962
01:36:31,720 --> 01:36:33,800
Speaker 6: him in and say, man, you could be the missing

1963
01:36:33,840 --> 01:36:36,800
Speaker 6: piece of the Super Bowl puzzle and here you find it.

1964
01:36:37,200 --> 01:36:40,599
Speaker 6: You see that around the league. And that's why, going

1965
01:36:40,640 --> 01:36:42,880
Speaker 6: back to what we talked about in the last hour,

1966
01:36:43,960 --> 01:36:48,880
Speaker 6: the Dallas experiment makes no sense. The whole situation with McCarthy.

1967
01:36:49,520 --> 01:36:52,600
Speaker 6: It's like there's something wrong and has been for a

1968
01:36:52,680 --> 01:36:58,000
Speaker 6: long time in the decision making processes and the time

1969
01:36:58,160 --> 01:37:01,440
Speaker 6: frames on a lot of the decisions that are made.

1970
01:37:01,680 --> 01:37:04,519
Speaker 6: I heard a lot of people say, man, they've got

1971
01:37:04,560 --> 01:37:07,920
Speaker 6: to have an unbelievable offseason with free agent, Like they've

1972
01:37:07,920 --> 01:37:11,240
Speaker 6: got a roster full of Pro bowlers and they got

1973
01:37:11,400 --> 01:37:14,639
Speaker 6: beat by the youngest team in the league at home

1974
01:37:14,760 --> 01:37:17,960
Speaker 6: last week. Who is going to take the blame for that?

1975
01:37:18,600 --> 01:37:23,120
Speaker 6: Is it Dan Quinn, Is it Dak Prescott? Is it

1976
01:37:23,160 --> 01:37:26,280
Speaker 6: Mike McCarthy Who is going to take the blame? And

1977
01:37:26,360 --> 01:37:29,240
Speaker 6: if you bring back Mike McCarthy again, And this is

1978
01:37:29,280 --> 01:37:31,120
Speaker 6: the part that we didn't get to And I wanted

1979
01:37:31,120 --> 01:37:34,960
Speaker 6: to hit this, if you bring back Mike McCarthy, but

1980
01:37:35,240 --> 01:37:39,080
Speaker 6: don't give him an extension, right because that's the report

1981
01:37:39,120 --> 01:37:41,360
Speaker 6: that we got on Saturday, is that there's no extension

1982
01:37:41,360 --> 01:37:44,000
Speaker 6: attached to this contract. You're bringing him in like it's

1983
01:37:44,000 --> 01:37:45,760
Speaker 6: a last ditch effort, like, well, you better get it

1984
01:37:45,800 --> 01:37:49,439
Speaker 6: done this year. So you're almost saying, all right, well,

1985
01:37:49,439 --> 01:37:50,800
Speaker 6: if you don't get it done this time, we'll get

1986
01:37:50,880 --> 01:37:53,960
Speaker 6: rid of him next time. If that's the feeling, why

1987
01:37:54,040 --> 01:37:56,600
Speaker 6: bring him back this time? Why not go ahead and

1988
01:37:56,640 --> 01:37:59,960
Speaker 6: make the move because you're already setting the stage for

1989
01:38:00,160 --> 01:38:04,479
Speaker 6: a lame duck scenario halfway through the year. Or again,

1990
01:38:04,640 --> 01:38:08,479
Speaker 6: I mean, Lord forbid, we end up with another twelve

1991
01:38:08,520 --> 01:38:12,559
Speaker 6: and five and getting to the postseason again. I feel

1992
01:38:12,560 --> 01:38:15,320
Speaker 6: like there's no vote of confidence, but we're gonna bring

1993
01:38:15,360 --> 01:38:17,920
Speaker 6: you back anyway. To me, that's malpractice.

1994
01:38:18,040 --> 01:38:18,479
Speaker 3: I know this.

1995
01:38:19,120 --> 01:38:21,200
Speaker 2: I don't want this to intending to turn into a

1996
01:38:21,240 --> 01:38:24,120
Speaker 2: Cowboys conversation, but h and we'll be quick because we

1997
01:38:24,160 --> 01:38:25,880
Speaker 2: got to get back in preview tomorrow's games.

1998
01:38:25,880 --> 01:38:27,519
Speaker 3: But that's my exact thought.

1999
01:38:27,720 --> 01:38:31,479
Speaker 2: This is my frustration with the whole thing is, you know,

2000
01:38:32,000 --> 01:38:34,759
Speaker 2: it's A great point by you is by not giving

2001
01:38:34,800 --> 01:38:37,639
Speaker 2: the extension, you inherently are kind of saying we don't

2002
01:38:37,760 --> 01:38:42,120
Speaker 2: really trust you. And even if you bring him back,

2003
01:38:42,680 --> 01:38:45,800
Speaker 2: it's like the other I don't know, man, It's just

2004
01:38:46,200 --> 01:38:48,040
Speaker 2: that thing is so disappointing.

2005
01:38:47,479 --> 01:38:50,519
Speaker 6: To me, baffling. It's just it just, yeah, disappointing. And

2006
01:38:50,560 --> 01:38:54,719
Speaker 6: you said that earlier. It's just it's nonsense like it

2007
01:38:54,800 --> 01:38:56,920
Speaker 6: there's no logic behind it at all.

2008
01:38:57,160 --> 01:39:00,000
Speaker 5: Like and Jerry even said.

2009
01:38:59,840 --> 01:39:02,000
Speaker 6: He's won a lot in the regular season, So what

2010
01:39:03,200 --> 01:39:04,320
Speaker 6: go play inner murals?

2011
01:39:04,360 --> 01:39:04,639
Speaker 7: Brother?

2012
01:39:04,920 --> 01:39:07,720
Speaker 6: Like the only the Hawkins thing, the Colorado go's Like,

2013
01:39:08,760 --> 01:39:12,599
Speaker 6: I just I don't get it. I don't understand what

2014
01:39:12,640 --> 01:39:16,559
Speaker 6: the thought process is because the results have not been there.

2015
01:39:16,760 --> 01:39:18,760
Speaker 6: And the only thing that Jerry Jones has said he

2016
01:39:18,800 --> 01:39:21,639
Speaker 6: cares about is winning Super Bowls. And to me, this

2017
01:39:21,720 --> 01:39:24,200
Speaker 6: is the kind of move that indicates that's not all

2018
01:39:24,240 --> 01:39:27,799
Speaker 6: he cares about, because the opportunity was there to upgrade

2019
01:39:27,960 --> 01:39:29,200
Speaker 6: and he chose not to do it.

2020
01:39:29,520 --> 01:39:31,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I think the other thing is it'd be

2021
01:39:31,840 --> 01:39:35,200
Speaker 2: year It'd be different if it was year one. It'd

2022
01:39:35,200 --> 01:39:37,960
Speaker 2: be different if there was some weird injury. And by

2023
01:39:37,960 --> 01:39:39,559
Speaker 2: the way, the other thing we didn't even talk about

2024
01:39:39,560 --> 01:39:42,880
Speaker 2: We talked about it last week, but is everything broke

2025
01:39:42,920 --> 01:39:47,439
Speaker 2: their way. The Eagles completely fell apart. Otherwise they would

2026
01:39:47,439 --> 01:39:50,240
Speaker 2: have won the division. They stole the game in Detroit

2027
01:39:50,280 --> 01:39:53,200
Speaker 2: that they shouldn't have stolen. In that case, you know,

2028
01:39:53,240 --> 01:39:55,360
Speaker 2: I guess they probably still would have gotten home field advantage.

2029
01:39:55,400 --> 01:39:57,000
Speaker 3: Maybe the Seeds would have been different. Whatever.

2030
01:39:57,520 --> 01:39:59,640
Speaker 2: I just bring it up to say, everything went their

2031
01:39:59,680 --> 01:40:03,599
Speaker 2: way and it still didn't happen. No injuries, two seed,

2032
01:40:03,880 --> 01:40:07,599
Speaker 2: home field advantage, win the division. It's just it boggles

2033
01:40:07,640 --> 01:40:11,000
Speaker 2: my mind. And I said it earlier and we'll wrap

2034
01:40:11,040 --> 01:40:13,400
Speaker 2: on this. Is that as far as the Cowboys stuff

2035
01:40:13,439 --> 01:40:16,280
Speaker 2: is concerned. I said it before, I'll say it again.

2036
01:40:16,600 --> 01:40:19,840
Speaker 2: Is it's like when your parents tell you, I'm not

2037
01:40:19,960 --> 01:40:22,360
Speaker 2: just I'm not mad at you, I'm just disappointed.

2038
01:40:22,439 --> 01:40:23,960
Speaker 3: I'm just disappointed. And it's funny.

2039
01:40:24,000 --> 01:40:27,120
Speaker 2: I'm not a Cowboys guy. I just want to see

2040
01:40:27,160 --> 01:40:31,200
Speaker 2: that organization reach its potential. And you have a team

2041
01:40:31,280 --> 01:40:34,160
Speaker 2: in a unique window with some young guys still on

2042
01:40:34,240 --> 01:40:36,759
Speaker 2: rookie contracts, which we talked about earlier in the show,

2043
01:40:37,760 --> 01:40:40,439
Speaker 2: and it's like, you gotta capitalize on this window right now.

2044
01:40:40,640 --> 01:40:44,360
Speaker 3: They refuse to do it. They lost to Green Bay

2045
01:40:44,439 --> 01:40:44,880
Speaker 3: last week.

2046
01:40:44,920 --> 01:40:47,680
Speaker 2: Green Bay loses to San Francisco this week, and of

2047
01:40:47,720 --> 01:40:50,920
Speaker 2: course San Francisco advances to the NFC Championship Game. When

2048
01:40:51,080 --> 01:40:53,760
Speaker 2: we come back, we'll preview that NFC Championship game or

2049
01:40:53,760 --> 01:40:58,719
Speaker 2: the NFC Divisional Round Tampa Bay Detroit fighting to play Dallas. Also,

2050
01:40:58,760 --> 01:41:01,920
Speaker 2: of course the Big One Case and Buffalo. We'll discuss

2051
01:41:01,960 --> 01:41:02,519
Speaker 2: all that next.

2052
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Speaker 3: As much as I'm enjoying this.

2064
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Speaker 2: Intro music, Lorraine, I think we need to get a

2065
01:41:49,000 --> 01:41:50,960
Speaker 2: little Uh, we need to get a little NFL.

2066
01:41:51,680 --> 01:41:52,120
Speaker 5: It's good.

2067
01:41:52,280 --> 01:41:54,600
Speaker 3: I gotta get that good NFL music going. Let's go.

2068
01:41:54,640 --> 01:41:55,080
Speaker 5: What do we got?

2069
01:41:55,120 --> 01:41:57,160
Speaker 2: We got we got Darrowa It is right there. That's

2070
01:41:57,160 --> 01:42:00,799
Speaker 2: at Fox, NFL Sunday Music. Pat, we got two Sunday

2071
01:42:00,840 --> 01:42:03,439
Speaker 2: games tomorrow or today, depending on where you are.

2072
01:42:03,720 --> 01:42:07,320
Speaker 7: Oh yeah, no, we got two going on tomorrow. We're

2073
01:42:07,360 --> 01:42:09,519
Speaker 7: gonna start with the AFC side on this one. We

2074
01:42:09,600 --> 01:42:13,439
Speaker 7: got the Kansas City Chiefs taking on the Buffalo. Bill's

2075
01:42:13,439 --> 01:42:16,479
Speaker 7: Buffalo is home, and boy is it gonna be a

2076
01:42:16,600 --> 01:42:20,599
Speaker 7: climactic fight of a battle tomorrow. Now, Buffalo, they are home.

2077
01:42:20,640 --> 01:42:21,400
Speaker 3: Fight of a battle.

2078
01:42:21,439 --> 01:42:25,080
Speaker 7: Climactic. Oh yeah, I don't know. I'm just hyped. I'm hiped, guys.

2079
01:42:25,320 --> 01:42:26,040
Speaker 6: Mystery wrapped.

2080
01:42:29,320 --> 01:42:33,000
Speaker 2: It's climactic, and it's in this round. It came down

2081
01:42:33,000 --> 01:42:35,720
Speaker 2: to the final thirteen seconds. There's probably some jokes there

2082
01:42:35,760 --> 01:42:38,599
Speaker 2: that are not appropriate anyway, Pat, what are we doing?

2083
01:42:38,600 --> 01:42:39,599
Speaker 3: What are we doing? Either way?

2084
01:42:39,640 --> 01:42:43,040
Speaker 7: Buffalo is the home team here, guys, and as I've

2085
01:42:43,080 --> 01:42:46,840
Speaker 7: said before, the home team reigns supreme. In particular on

2086
01:42:46,880 --> 01:42:49,759
Speaker 7: this line, Buffalo is a three point favorite over the Chiefs.

2087
01:42:50,360 --> 01:42:53,360
Speaker 7: Let's start off with Aaron Torres himself, Aaron, what are

2088
01:42:53,360 --> 01:42:54,320
Speaker 7: you feeling on this one?

2089
01:42:54,560 --> 01:42:57,560
Speaker 2: This is one I'll be honest, guys, Like if I

2090
01:42:57,640 --> 01:42:59,960
Speaker 2: was in Vegas or any state where you could legally

2091
01:43:00,080 --> 01:43:02,759
Speaker 2: sports bet, I just don't think I would.

2092
01:43:03,080 --> 01:43:05,640
Speaker 3: I really don't, you know. Listen, it's amazing.

2093
01:43:05,760 --> 01:43:09,519
Speaker 2: I keep waiting for to use a bad pun, you know,

2094
01:43:09,560 --> 01:43:13,559
Speaker 2: the wheels to fall off the wagon for the Buffalo Bills,

2095
01:43:13,640 --> 01:43:15,880
Speaker 2: Like I still don't.

2096
01:43:15,680 --> 01:43:18,360
Speaker 3: Really believe that they're doing this. They were, Listen.

2097
01:43:18,400 --> 01:43:20,439
Speaker 2: I know they lost a lot of close games, but

2098
01:43:20,479 --> 01:43:23,519
Speaker 2: they were so bad early and to just see them

2099
01:43:23,680 --> 01:43:26,000
Speaker 2: just get so hot late. And then the other thing too,

2100
01:43:26,760 --> 01:43:29,679
Speaker 2: is that like even in their wins, they have these moments.

2101
01:43:29,680 --> 01:43:32,080
Speaker 2: I mean, they beat Miami two weeks ago on Sunday

2102
01:43:32,120 --> 01:43:35,120
Speaker 2: Night football pet not Patrick Mahomes, Josh Allen had a

2103
01:43:35,160 --> 01:43:38,720
Speaker 2: bunch of turnovers, and so I want to believe in him.

2104
01:43:39,280 --> 01:43:42,479
Speaker 2: I want to trust him, especially at home, but I

2105
01:43:42,520 --> 01:43:44,040
Speaker 2: don't know that I do. But then on the other side,

2106
01:43:44,080 --> 01:43:46,760
Speaker 2: it's like, I don't think this. It's not even that I

2107
01:43:46,760 --> 01:43:47,240
Speaker 2: don't think.

2108
01:43:47,360 --> 01:43:47,680
Speaker 5: I know.

2109
01:43:47,840 --> 01:43:50,360
Speaker 3: This is not a vintage Chiefs team. This is the

2110
01:43:50,400 --> 01:43:54,120
Speaker 3: worst team of the Mahomes era. And this is obviously.

2111
01:43:54,360 --> 01:43:56,519
Speaker 2: You know, you may have heard the first road game

2112
01:43:57,000 --> 01:44:01,000
Speaker 2: that they're playing in the Patrick Mahomes. I just I

2113
01:44:01,280 --> 01:44:04,639
Speaker 2: have no strong opinion as far as who's gonna win,

2114
01:44:04,680 --> 01:44:09,600
Speaker 2: who's gonna lose. My heart wants me to take Buffalo,

2115
01:44:10,680 --> 01:44:15,200
Speaker 2: but my head tells me quarterback that likes to turn

2116
01:44:15,240 --> 01:44:19,799
Speaker 2: the ball over. Casey obviously has a ton of playoff experience.

2117
01:44:19,840 --> 01:44:22,120
Speaker 2: I understand zero is on the road and in the

2118
01:44:22,160 --> 01:44:24,519
Speaker 2: big games. Even the way, by the way Jason, even

2119
01:44:24,600 --> 01:44:30,400
Speaker 2: the game that Casey won, it was that wild penalty late.

2120
01:44:30,760 --> 01:44:33,439
Speaker 2: Otherwise they would have won that one too. So this

2121
01:44:33,640 --> 01:44:35,680
Speaker 2: is all long winded. But the point I'm trying to

2122
01:44:35,720 --> 01:44:38,400
Speaker 2: make I want Buffalo to win, but my head says

2123
01:44:38,479 --> 01:44:41,439
Speaker 2: Casey finds a way, and it's another offseason of questions

2124
01:44:41,439 --> 01:44:43,400
Speaker 2: for Buffalo.

2125
01:44:44,360 --> 01:44:47,719
Speaker 6: Buffalo's gonna win. It's the biggest game of Josh Allen's career.

2126
01:44:47,720 --> 01:44:50,360
Speaker 6: But it's an even bigger game for Shlan McDermott. If

2127
01:44:50,400 --> 01:44:54,519
Speaker 6: they lose, he's fired, whether it's immediate or whether it's

2128
01:44:54,520 --> 01:44:58,080
Speaker 6: any offseason. He's not getting the McCarthy treatment. If they lose,

2129
01:44:58,120 --> 01:45:02,439
Speaker 6: he's fired, I think. But this is the Josh Allen game.

2130
01:45:02,680 --> 01:45:04,559
Speaker 6: This is the one he's got to show up. He

2131
01:45:04,640 --> 01:45:08,240
Speaker 6: can't have the crazy turnovers unless he still finds a.

2132
01:45:08,160 --> 01:45:08,720
Speaker 5: Way to win it.

2133
01:45:09,120 --> 01:45:11,160
Speaker 6: This is a Kanta See team that could be beaten.

2134
01:45:11,240 --> 01:45:14,120
Speaker 6: Spec Nola is going to have a nice defense set

2135
01:45:14,200 --> 01:45:16,720
Speaker 6: up to try and confound Josh Allen and force him

2136
01:45:16,720 --> 01:45:20,160
Speaker 6: into mistakes. I just think that Buffalo is going to

2137
01:45:20,200 --> 01:45:23,280
Speaker 6: make a couple more plays this time around than the Chiefs.

2138
01:45:24,120 --> 01:45:27,080
Speaker 6: They've got it where they want it. I just think

2139
01:45:27,120 --> 01:45:31,240
Speaker 6: this is Buffalo's time. I feel like I feel good

2140
01:45:31,240 --> 01:45:34,479
Speaker 6: about this one. I'm not wavering. I'm going exactly where

2141
01:45:34,479 --> 01:45:36,080
Speaker 6: my head has been all week, and it is that

2142
01:45:36,120 --> 01:45:38,839
Speaker 6: Buffalo is the better team right now. They are peaking

2143
01:45:38,880 --> 01:45:40,160
Speaker 6: at the right time and they're going to win the

2144
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Speaker 6: football game.

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01:45:40,960 --> 01:45:43,880
Speaker 2: Let's go. I listen. I like something new, I like

2146
01:45:43,920 --> 01:45:46,719
Speaker 2: something fresh. I just don't think this is a vintage

2147
01:45:46,800 --> 01:45:50,840
Speaker 2: KC team. I'll believe it when I see it, but

2148
01:45:50,920 --> 01:45:53,400
Speaker 2: we'll see everything. If Buffalo can't do it this time,

2149
01:45:53,479 --> 01:45:56,560
Speaker 2: there's no excuses, Pat, I know what the second game is,

2150
01:45:56,600 --> 01:45:58,280
Speaker 2: which is actually the first game, But go ahead and

2151
01:45:58,280 --> 01:45:59,040
Speaker 2: set it up for us.

2152
01:45:59,160 --> 01:46:02,040
Speaker 7: All right, we're gonna go with the other game for tomorrow.

2153
01:46:02,040 --> 01:46:05,599
Speaker 7: We got the Tampa Bay Buccaneers facing off against Detroit

2154
01:46:05,680 --> 01:46:08,920
Speaker 7: Lions for the NFC Divisional Round to go to the championship.

2155
01:46:09,439 --> 01:46:12,240
Speaker 7: And again, guys, I said it with the last game,

2156
01:46:12,360 --> 01:46:16,240
Speaker 7: same thing here. Home team runs supreme in Detroit. Detroit

2157
01:46:16,360 --> 01:46:18,679
Speaker 7: a little bit more of a favorite than the Kansas City,

2158
01:46:18,760 --> 01:46:21,840
Speaker 7: or I mean than the Buffalo Bills. Were Detroit six

2159
01:46:21,880 --> 01:46:25,559
Speaker 7: point favorites over the Bucks. And let's do a little

2160
01:46:25,600 --> 01:46:30,240
Speaker 7: scratch on that. Let's go, Jason Martin, what are you feeling, sir, well,

2161
01:46:30,280 --> 01:46:30,800
Speaker 7: I can tell.

2162
01:46:30,680 --> 01:46:32,240
Speaker 6: You that this is a kind of game that Baker

2163
01:46:32,280 --> 01:46:37,960
Speaker 6: Mayfield relishes. He loves loud, hostile crowd coming for his neck.

2164
01:46:39,120 --> 01:46:40,400
Speaker 5: But he's not gonna love it today.

2165
01:46:40,720 --> 01:46:42,400
Speaker 6: He's not gonna love it against the Lions.

2166
01:46:43,240 --> 01:46:44,559
Speaker 5: They have waited for this.

2167
01:46:45,600 --> 01:46:50,920
Speaker 6: The environment is going to be outstanding. Golf plays really

2168
01:46:50,920 --> 01:46:53,720
Speaker 6: well at home. I'm on Ross Saint Brown. I don't

2169
01:46:53,720 --> 01:46:55,680
Speaker 6: know who's gonna come. I mean, Winfield's played really well

2170
01:46:55,680 --> 01:46:58,120
Speaker 6: for them, but I just it just feels like the

2171
01:46:58,200 --> 01:47:01,800
Speaker 6: Lions time the same way with Buffalo. I feel very

2172
01:47:01,880 --> 01:47:04,679
Speaker 6: comfortable in saying that the Lions are a better overall

2173
01:47:04,680 --> 01:47:08,000
Speaker 6: football team with more firepower, and they're gonna have more

2174
01:47:08,080 --> 01:47:10,760
Speaker 6: answers for the Bucks than vice versa. I like the

2175
01:47:10,840 --> 01:47:12,920
Speaker 6: Lions in this game, and I like them comfortably.

2176
01:47:13,360 --> 01:47:14,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's interesting.

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Speaker 2: I like the Lions so much that I'm actually worried

2178
01:47:19,560 --> 01:47:22,920
Speaker 2: and the Lions are another team that no I do like, Like.

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01:47:23,000 --> 01:47:26,840
Speaker 6: No, that's absolutely right. It terrifies me how much I

2180
01:47:26,920 --> 01:47:27,840
Speaker 6: like the Lions right now.

2181
01:47:27,880 --> 01:47:30,519
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll give you a very weird example, because we

2182
01:47:30,520 --> 01:47:33,280
Speaker 2: were talking a minute ago about how rare it is

2183
01:47:33,320 --> 01:47:36,040
Speaker 2: that a team just like rips through the playoffs and

2184
01:47:36,080 --> 01:47:37,040
Speaker 2: it's never competitive.

2185
01:47:37,360 --> 01:47:40,559
Speaker 3: And I go back to last year's basketball.

2186
01:47:40,040 --> 01:47:42,320
Speaker 2: NCAA tournament where I remember coming on with you and

2187
01:47:42,400 --> 01:47:45,720
Speaker 2: Ronie Miyama Mater was playing for the championship, and you

2188
01:47:45,760 --> 01:47:47,960
Speaker 2: guys were like, so, what is the pathway to San

2189
01:47:48,000 --> 01:47:51,040
Speaker 2: Diego State winning that game? And I was like, I

2190
01:47:51,080 --> 01:47:54,600
Speaker 2: don't know if there is one, which concerns me, and

2191
01:47:54,640 --> 01:47:57,280
Speaker 2: I don't think this is exactly that. I mean, these

2192
01:47:57,280 --> 01:48:00,439
Speaker 2: are all professionals, as our buddy Trent Williams told earlier,

2193
01:48:00,479 --> 01:48:03,479
Speaker 2: they're all professionals. But I just bring it up to say,

2194
01:48:03,520 --> 01:48:08,639
Speaker 2: like I don't see the pathway barring like, like, you know,

2195
01:48:09,200 --> 01:48:12,519
Speaker 2: four turnovers for Jared Goff and two of them get

2196
01:48:12,560 --> 01:48:13,720
Speaker 2: returned for touchdowns.

2197
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Speaker 3: I just don't see it.

2198
01:48:15,160 --> 01:48:20,080
Speaker 2: I think Detroit is basically better virtually at every spot

2199
01:48:20,160 --> 01:48:23,080
Speaker 2: on the field. I think quarterbacks are about the same,

2200
01:48:23,200 --> 01:48:25,960
Speaker 2: but Detroit's really good. And I know it's a it's

2201
01:48:26,000 --> 01:48:28,400
Speaker 2: a cliche talking point at this point, but you know

2202
01:48:28,560 --> 01:48:31,080
Speaker 2: the front office, Brad Holmes, I believe the guy's name

2203
01:48:31,160 --> 01:48:33,760
Speaker 2: is that the GM has done an unbelievable job. Dan

2204
01:48:33,800 --> 01:48:37,680
Speaker 2: Campbell has those guys ready every single week home field advantage.

2205
01:48:37,960 --> 01:48:39,439
Speaker 2: I don't know if there's anything else to add on

2206
01:48:39,479 --> 01:48:43,240
Speaker 2: your perspective, Jason, I just I don't see the pathway

2207
01:48:43,720 --> 01:48:47,080
Speaker 2: or the scenario, barring something shocking for Tampa to win.

2208
01:48:47,560 --> 01:48:49,479
Speaker 5: I just I mean, right, the Lions are better.

2209
01:48:50,160 --> 01:48:52,679
Speaker 6: Doesn't always mean that the better the better team doesn't

2210
01:48:52,680 --> 01:48:54,479
Speaker 6: always win, but a lot of times in the NFL

2211
01:48:54,560 --> 01:48:56,519
Speaker 6: that does tend to be the way that it goes.

2212
01:48:57,040 --> 01:49:00,000
Speaker 6: I just I don't see the letdown here. I think

2213
01:48:59,800 --> 01:49:02,439
Speaker 6: I think we can have the letdown maybe when they

2214
01:49:02,439 --> 01:49:04,439
Speaker 6: go on the road to San Francisco. I don't feel

2215
01:49:04,520 --> 01:49:06,160
Speaker 6: very good for either one of these teams go into

2216
01:49:06,160 --> 01:49:08,559
Speaker 6: that building and winning. But I just think the Lions

2217
01:49:08,560 --> 01:49:11,479
Speaker 6: are gonna steamroll the Bucks. I'm not saying it's gonna

2218
01:49:11,479 --> 01:49:13,280
Speaker 6: be a laugher that you can't watch. I'm just saying

2219
01:49:13,320 --> 01:49:15,280
Speaker 6: that you're gonna know who the better team was at

2220
01:49:15,320 --> 01:49:15,840
Speaker 6: the end of it.

2221
01:49:16,920 --> 01:49:23,360
Speaker 2: Those are those two Sunday divisional round games. Tell you

2222
01:49:23,400 --> 01:49:26,240
Speaker 2: what for the final time this evening, let's toss it

2223
01:49:26,240 --> 01:49:28,200
Speaker 2: to the news desk. Steve to Seger, tell us what

2224
01:49:28,400 --> 01:49:31,080
Speaker 2: is trending, my friend. We'll get to the wins from

2225
01:49:31,080 --> 01:49:33,719
Speaker 2: the forty nine Ers and Ravens. But that Detroit hosting

2226
01:49:33,720 --> 01:49:36,639
Speaker 2: Tampa Bay game is Sunday at three pm Eastern Time.

2227
01:49:37,040 --> 01:49:40,160
Speaker 2: Lions star tight end Sam Laporta listed as questionable with

2228
01:49:40,200 --> 01:49:42,960
Speaker 2: the bad knee. He did play last game, had three catches,

2229
01:49:43,000 --> 01:49:46,040
Speaker 2: including a short TD. Keep in mind how Detroit in

2230
01:49:46,080 --> 01:49:48,800
Speaker 2: the regular season went for it often on fourth down

2231
01:49:48,800 --> 01:49:52,360
Speaker 2: and quite successfully over fifty percent conversions on fourth down,

2232
01:49:52,640 --> 01:49:55,200
Speaker 2: and last Sunday night in the playoff against the Rams,

2233
01:49:55,640 --> 01:49:58,080
Speaker 2: they went for it on a fourth down at the

2234
01:49:58,120 --> 01:50:00,800
Speaker 2: two and threw a touchdown pass wound up winning the

2235
01:50:00,840 --> 01:50:03,760
Speaker 2: game by a point. Tampa Bay put Philadelphia out of

2236
01:50:03,760 --> 01:50:06,320
Speaker 2: its misery with a win last Monday night. Thirty two

2237
01:50:06,320 --> 01:50:09,599
Speaker 2: to nine was the final first four drives for the Bucks.

2238
01:50:09,600 --> 01:50:11,800
Speaker 8: They scored on all four. Now it was three field

2239
01:50:11,800 --> 01:50:13,640
Speaker 8: goals in a touchdown, but they had a sixteen to

2240
01:50:13,720 --> 01:50:16,800
Speaker 8: three lead. But they were against the Eagles defense that

2241
01:50:17,560 --> 01:50:20,679
Speaker 8: not just for a game or two, completely fell apart

2242
01:50:20,720 --> 01:50:25,000
Speaker 8: this past season. The Bucks the worst rushing team in

2243
01:50:25,080 --> 01:50:27,720
Speaker 8: the league in the regular season. That's who Detroit is

2244
01:50:27,760 --> 01:50:31,080
Speaker 8: facing tomorrow. Buffalo will host Kansas City six to thirty

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01:50:31,120 --> 01:50:34,040
Speaker 8: pm Eastern Time on Sunday. Temperature will be under twenty

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01:50:34,040 --> 01:50:37,040
Speaker 8: five degrees. Maybe no snow on Sunday, but it will

2247
01:50:37,080 --> 01:50:39,280
Speaker 8: be windy. The Bills have won six in a row

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01:50:39,320 --> 01:50:42,759
Speaker 8: after eliminating Pittsburgh at last Monday's game, when Josh Allen

2249
01:50:42,800 --> 01:50:46,040
Speaker 8: had three touchdown passes in a TD run. Buffalo at

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Speaker 8: home is eight to two on the season. Kansas City

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01:50:49,520 --> 01:50:52,120
Speaker 8: on field goal attempts has been great this year, thirty

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01:50:52,200 --> 01:50:56,000
Speaker 8: seven of thirty nine, including the four short field goals

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01:50:56,040 --> 01:50:59,240
Speaker 8: in the cold wildcard game against Miami. Special teams for

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01:50:59,280 --> 01:51:03,480
Speaker 8: Buffalo has been special this year. Yeah, they were impressive otherwise,

2255
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Speaker 8: including no turnovers last game and only two penalties, but

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01:51:06,640 --> 01:51:09,439
Speaker 8: on field goals one for three at one blocked, had

2257
01:51:09,479 --> 01:51:12,639
Speaker 8: one missed badly. The punter got hurt. He was listed

2258
01:51:12,640 --> 01:51:15,120
Speaker 8: as questionable for this weekend with the bad hamstring. The

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01:51:15,160 --> 01:51:17,920
Speaker 8: good news as the Bills have cut punter Matt Hawk

2260
01:51:17,960 --> 01:51:20,280
Speaker 8: from the practice squad, so I guess Sam Martin the

2261
01:51:20,280 --> 01:51:23,599
Speaker 8: regular is okay. Wide receiver Gabe Davis will be out

2262
01:51:23,640 --> 01:51:26,960
Speaker 8: again with a knee injury. Chiefs wide receiver Kadarius Tony

2263
01:51:27,040 --> 01:51:30,160
Speaker 8: out again tomorrow with hip and ankle injuries, missing a

2264
01:51:30,200 --> 01:51:33,519
Speaker 8: fifth straight game. He was limited in practice all week now.

2265
01:51:33,560 --> 01:51:35,680
Speaker 8: The Ravens today were tied at the half ten to

2266
01:51:35,760 --> 01:51:39,479
Speaker 8: ten against Houston. Then they eliminated the Texans thirty four

2267
01:51:39,520 --> 01:51:42,320
Speaker 8: to ten. Lamar Jackson, who could be MVP this year,

2268
01:51:42,360 --> 01:51:46,960
Speaker 8: had two touchdown passes and two touchdown runs. Ravens running

2269
01:51:47,000 --> 01:51:49,120
Speaker 8: backs had over thirty carries on top of that for

2270
01:51:49,120 --> 01:51:52,200
Speaker 8: about one hundred and thirty yards. Baltimore's playoff record in

2271
01:51:52,280 --> 01:51:56,080
Speaker 8: the previous eight years was one and four. This Ravens

2272
01:51:56,120 --> 01:51:59,960
Speaker 8: team will be hosting the AFC title game next weekend

2273
01:52:00,320 --> 01:52:03,679
Speaker 8: with a fourteen and four record. San Francisco is thirteen

2274
01:52:03,760 --> 01:52:06,599
Speaker 8: and five now. It led at halftime tonight against Green

2275
01:52:06,640 --> 01:52:09,160
Speaker 8: Bay seven to six, twenty four to twenty one. The

2276
01:52:09,200 --> 01:52:12,200
Speaker 8: final Christian McCaffrey two touchdown runs in the second half,

2277
01:52:12,200 --> 01:52:14,640
Speaker 8: including the game winner with one oh seven to go.

2278
01:52:15,120 --> 01:52:17,439
Speaker 8: Fox talked about this stat a couple of times during

2279
01:52:17,439 --> 01:52:22,200
Speaker 8: the telecast tonight. Kyle Shanahan's forty nine Ers when they're

2280
01:52:22,240 --> 01:52:24,680
Speaker 8: trailing in the fourth quarter by five points or more

2281
01:52:24,760 --> 01:52:27,600
Speaker 8: now have a record of three and forty one. But

2282
01:52:27,720 --> 01:52:30,400
Speaker 8: those three games coming back against the Packers in the

2283
01:52:30,439 --> 01:52:34,120
Speaker 8: playoffs tonight, coming back against the Packers in the playoffs

2284
01:52:34,160 --> 01:52:37,439
Speaker 8: two years ago, and coming back for an overtime win

2285
01:52:37,520 --> 01:52:41,439
Speaker 8: to finish the regular season two years ago. For Green Bay,

2286
01:52:42,120 --> 01:52:44,439
Speaker 8: I would say tale of two halves. It just about

2287
01:52:44,600 --> 01:52:47,360
Speaker 8: was that because they moved the ball in the first half,

2288
01:52:47,400 --> 01:52:50,120
Speaker 8: they just kept settling for field goals and had that

2289
01:52:50,160 --> 01:52:53,080
Speaker 8: stop on the fourth and one sneak. But their first

2290
01:52:53,080 --> 01:52:57,439
Speaker 8: six possessions Jordan Love, two touchdowns, no interceptions, their last

2291
01:52:57,439 --> 01:53:01,840
Speaker 8: four possessions no touchdowns, two inners, and just thirty yards

2292
01:53:01,880 --> 01:53:05,280
Speaker 8: passing on those last four possessions. We mentioned the rookie

2293
01:53:05,360 --> 01:53:09,040
Speaker 8: kicker Andrews Carlson. He finishes his rookie season missing a

2294
01:53:09,160 --> 01:53:12,640
Speaker 8: kick in five straight games, be it extra point or

2295
01:53:12,680 --> 01:53:16,080
Speaker 8: field goal attempt, and in fact, he had twelve misses

2296
01:53:16,200 --> 01:53:20,320
Speaker 8: in his last twelve games. College hoops number one Yukon

2297
01:53:20,439 --> 01:53:23,720
Speaker 8: won at Villanova sixty six sixty five. There was a

2298
01:53:23,720 --> 01:53:27,520
Speaker 8: triple overtime game with Creighton winning at Seaton. All NHL

2299
01:53:27,640 --> 01:53:30,519
Speaker 8: Edmonton won its thirteenth game in a row Boston, a

2300
01:53:30,600 --> 01:53:33,719
Speaker 8: nine to four winner against Montreal. The Islanders fired coach

2301
01:53:33,800 --> 01:53:37,320
Speaker 8: Lane Lambert and hired Patrick Waugh as for the NBA.

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01:53:37,520 --> 01:53:41,320
Speaker 8: Houston in overtime edged Utah. Cleveland won at seventh in

2303
01:53:41,320 --> 01:53:44,280
Speaker 8: a row victories for Philadelphia and Milwaukee. Back to you,

2304
01:53:44,720 --> 01:53:46,160
Speaker 8: Thank you very much, Steve the Sager.

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Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio, Fox Sports Sadder Day, even though it's Sun,

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01:53:50,880 --> 01:53:53,960
Speaker 2: I guess called Fox Football Live Now Air Torris Jason

2307
01:53:53,960 --> 01:53:56,960
Speaker 2: Martin broadcasting live from the tyreck dot com studios. When

2308
01:53:57,040 --> 01:54:01,080
Speaker 2: we come back, we'll wrap the show, some predictions for

2309
01:54:01,120 --> 01:54:04,880
Speaker 2: the week ahead, and one big topic that we have

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Speaker 2: not hit yet. That's next Fox Sports. Welcome back, everybody,

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01:54:16,160 --> 01:54:20,400
Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio. Eric Torris, Jace Martin broadcasting from the

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Speaker 2: tyreq dot com studios.

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Speaker 3: Eleven minutes and.

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Speaker 2: Sixteen fourteen seconds from now, Bertie Fridda over the Bernie

2315
01:54:29,640 --> 01:54:33,280
Speaker 2: Friddle Show will follow us. Bertie's Got All sorts of

2316
01:54:33,280 --> 01:54:36,040
Speaker 2: good Stuff? Bernie of course, it's worth noting covered the

2317
01:54:36,080 --> 01:54:39,160
Speaker 2: Lions for years, so you know he's gonna have a

2318
01:54:39,200 --> 01:54:42,440
Speaker 2: ton on the big game tomorrow against Tampa, as well as,

2319
01:54:42,440 --> 01:54:45,160
Speaker 2: of course the Lake game in Buffalo and the two

2320
01:54:45,240 --> 01:54:48,360
Speaker 2: games we saw on Saturday. Jason, one topic we just

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01:54:48,400 --> 01:54:51,160
Speaker 2: haven't gotten a chance to get to because of the

2322
01:54:51,200 --> 01:54:54,000
Speaker 2: forty nine Ers Packers game and everything that went on today.

2323
01:54:55,040 --> 01:54:59,320
Speaker 2: What do you think about Bill Belichick multiple interviews with

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01:54:59,360 --> 01:55:03,840
Speaker 2: the Atlanta of Falcons. I feel like everyone has the

2325
01:55:03,840 --> 01:55:06,280
Speaker 2: same take. Feels kind of weird, but it also feels

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01:55:06,320 --> 01:55:07,120
Speaker 2: like it's gonna happen.

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01:55:07,760 --> 01:55:08,440
Speaker 3: What do you make of this?

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01:55:09,400 --> 01:55:10,760
Speaker 5: Remember what I said last week?

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01:55:12,000 --> 01:55:15,600
Speaker 6: We were talking about Belichick and I said the Falcons,

2330
01:55:16,080 --> 01:55:18,960
Speaker 6: and at the time it might have sounded crazy, and

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01:55:19,000 --> 01:55:22,800
Speaker 6: now it doesn't sound as crazy. The multiple interviews thing

2332
01:55:22,880 --> 01:55:26,080
Speaker 6: is a little strange. You have two interviews, you have dinner,

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01:55:26,080 --> 01:55:28,160
Speaker 6: and you're doing the same thing with Harball. That's the

2334
01:55:28,160 --> 01:55:29,360
Speaker 6: part that kind of caught.

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01:55:29,160 --> 01:55:29,760
Speaker 7: Me off guard.

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01:55:29,920 --> 01:55:33,760
Speaker 6: It's like, so, you had these two deals with Belichick

2337
01:55:34,480 --> 01:55:37,360
Speaker 6: and it seems like that's the direction you're going, and

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01:55:37,440 --> 01:55:40,280
Speaker 6: Harball looks like the Chargers is gonna happen, but you're

2339
01:55:40,280 --> 01:55:43,360
Speaker 6: gonna meet with him again too. I don't know exactly why,

2340
01:55:44,000 --> 01:55:45,920
Speaker 6: but I just feel like we're kind of in the

2341
01:55:46,520 --> 01:55:49,840
Speaker 6: win stage right now. Unless Belichick for some reason doesn't

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01:55:49,880 --> 01:55:52,400
Speaker 6: want to do it. It just seems like he's gonna

2343
01:55:52,400 --> 01:55:56,920
Speaker 6: be the Falcons coach. And I don't know why you

2344
01:55:57,040 --> 01:56:01,080
Speaker 6: needed to meet with him a second time, but Arthur Blank,

2345
01:56:01,080 --> 01:56:02,760
Speaker 6: maybe he's trying to be a little bit more detail

2346
01:56:02,800 --> 01:56:06,240
Speaker 6: oriented here, and maybe he had to think about something

2347
01:56:06,320 --> 01:56:08,880
Speaker 6: that was said in the first conversation. Wanted to sit

2348
01:56:09,000 --> 01:56:11,360
Speaker 6: him down and talk to him again about his philosophy

2349
01:56:11,400 --> 01:56:13,760
Speaker 6: and how much control he's going to have. And I mean,

2350
01:56:13,800 --> 01:56:18,240
Speaker 6: we don't know why necessarily, but I guess you want

2351
01:56:18,280 --> 01:56:20,760
Speaker 6: to make sure you get this thing right. And I

2352
01:56:20,800 --> 01:56:23,760
Speaker 6: guess you also have the time to do this because

2353
01:56:23,800 --> 01:56:28,080
Speaker 6: of the playoffs and certain coaches and all of this.

2354
01:56:28,240 --> 01:56:31,800
Speaker 6: But it does seem like a lot of formalities at

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Speaker 6: this point to get to the Belichick ending that we're

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Speaker 6: all expecting.

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Speaker 2: Speaking of a lot of formalities, Los Angeles Chargers have

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Speaker 2: interviewed everybody like I think they're a day away from

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01:56:43,960 --> 01:56:45,640
Speaker 2: calling me and you and just saying, hey, can can

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Speaker 2: he stop by the facility?

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Speaker 6: I talked to him yesterday. Did you Oh wow, I

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Speaker 6: did a zoom interview yesterday.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, they didn't tweet that one out because they've been

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Speaker 3: tweeting out a lot. Just today. How about this?

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Speaker 2: They interviewed Raheem Morris, who's, of course, the defensive coordinator

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Speaker 2: with the Los Angeles Chargers. Also Ben Johnson interviewing today.

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Speaker 2: Do you, by the way, do you have any I

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01:57:05,240 --> 01:57:07,720
Speaker 2: saw a little bit of this pushback. They also apparently

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01:57:07,760 --> 01:57:09,400
Speaker 2: interviewed Aaron Glenn today.

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Speaker 3: Busy.

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Speaker 2: I'm a good thing you got in yesterday because they

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01:57:12,840 --> 01:57:14,000
Speaker 2: were they were jam packed today.

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Speaker 3: I saw a little bit of pushback.

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Speaker 2: I don't know that it was a ton about Ben

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Speaker 2: Johnson interviewing for multiple jobs the days leading up to

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Speaker 2: this NFL NFC Divisional game tomrro against Tampa. Do you

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Speaker 2: have any fundamental issue with guys interviewing.

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Speaker 3: In a lead up to these games?

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Speaker 6: I can understand why you would, but I also understand

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01:57:40,600 --> 01:57:44,360
Speaker 6: what these guys are going through, and the cycle has

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01:57:44,440 --> 01:57:47,040
Speaker 6: already begun, and you don't want to just turn them

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01:57:47,040 --> 01:57:49,880
Speaker 6: down and then every job goes away, and because you've

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01:57:49,920 --> 01:57:53,720
Speaker 6: been really, really good, you lose your opportunities. In a

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01:57:53,720 --> 01:57:56,280
Speaker 6: few of these spots, because they get antsy and they

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01:57:56,280 --> 01:57:59,200
Speaker 6: make the move before you could make it, and as

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01:58:01,680 --> 01:58:03,440
Speaker 6: you're gonna have a problem with it if the Lions

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01:58:03,480 --> 01:58:07,560
Speaker 6: offense comes out and is terrible against Tampa Bay. As

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Speaker 6: long as they come out and they still look good,

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Speaker 6: I can't imagine why this matters. This only becomes a

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Speaker 6: hindsight is twenty twenty kind of armchair quarterbacking after the fact,

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Speaker 6: nobody's gonna carry that he did a bunch of interviews

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01:58:18,720 --> 01:58:21,360
Speaker 6: if they come out and look great against Tampa Bay,

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01:58:21,680 --> 01:58:24,120
Speaker 6: but it becomes the thing that you knock if their

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01:58:24,160 --> 01:58:27,000
Speaker 6: offense sputters against the Bucks defense.

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Speaker 3: I'm with you one hundred percent.

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01:58:29,440 --> 01:58:33,080
Speaker 2: I don't have I don't have any fundamental issue because

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01:58:33,160 --> 01:58:35,280
Speaker 2: it's just the way it is. And by the way,

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01:58:35,840 --> 01:58:38,400
Speaker 2: if you remember, they used to do the thing where

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Speaker 2: you could interview, but you couldn't accept until there was

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01:58:42,120 --> 01:58:45,839
Speaker 2: a certain point. And then of course Josh McDaniels interviewed

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01:58:45,840 --> 01:58:48,440
Speaker 2: with the Indianapolis Colts, they thought they had him, and

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01:58:48,480 --> 01:58:51,000
Speaker 2: then they couldn't formally hire him until two or three

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01:58:51,000 --> 01:58:53,320
Speaker 2: weeks later, and he ends up taking another job. So

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01:58:53,640 --> 01:58:56,800
Speaker 2: I guess you could push off the entire hiring process

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01:58:56,920 --> 01:59:00,840
Speaker 2: until either after the Super Bowl, the NFC, you know,

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01:59:00,880 --> 01:59:03,080
Speaker 2: after the championship games, when you have that week off.

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Speaker 2: I don't know, but it also feels like, why are

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01:59:05,640 --> 01:59:08,240
Speaker 2: you gonna make teams wait another five six weeks really quick?

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Speaker 2: Because we only got about a minute left Harbaugh. I mean,

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Speaker 2: you know, multiple interviews with the Chargers. Obviously, as you said,

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Speaker 2: he has spoken with the Falcons. I don't want to

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Speaker 2: say that I think that he's coming back to Michigan

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Speaker 2: because I don't know that I do.

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Speaker 3: I do think the.

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Speaker 2: Percentage is probably higher than I felt probably, you know,

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Speaker 2: this time last week. So any thoughts on that.

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Speaker 6: No, I mean last week I predicted and I'm sticking

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Speaker 6: with it. He's going to be the Chargers head coach.

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Speaker 6: I don't know what all of this is. If he's

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Speaker 6: just kind of accepting some more stuff, or if the

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Speaker 6: Chargers are trying to kind of keep this thing close

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01:59:44,080 --> 01:59:46,200
Speaker 6: to the vest or there, or he's trying to use

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Speaker 6: some leverage to get some more money out of it.

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Speaker 5: I have no idea.

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Speaker 6: I still think he's gonna end up as head coach

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Speaker 6: of the Chargers. So I don't think you could be right.

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Speaker 6: You definitely could. I'm gonna stick by my guns.

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Speaker 2: Tell you what find out all next week as some

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Speaker 2: of this stuff should come to a resolution, but you

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Speaker 2: know what, we gotta go. I want to thank the crew,

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Speaker 2: producer Pat Lorena on the board for Steve de Sager

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