1 00:00:00,440 --> 00:00:02,520 Speaker 1: Wake that ass up in the morning. 2 00:00:02,840 --> 00:00:06,280 Speaker 2: Breakfast Club, yep, the one, the most dangerous morning show 3 00:00:06,280 --> 00:00:09,000 Speaker 2: to Breakfast Club. Charlamagne the God just hilarious. DJ Envy 4 00:00:09,039 --> 00:00:11,960 Speaker 2: had to step out. But we have a certified legend 5 00:00:12,000 --> 00:00:15,080 Speaker 2: in the building. You've seen her on a night court, 6 00:00:15,120 --> 00:00:17,040 Speaker 2: You've seen her on the Upshaw. She has a one 7 00:00:17,079 --> 00:00:19,840 Speaker 2: woman show called The Book of Marshall. Missus Marshall Wallfield 8 00:00:19,840 --> 00:00:21,320 Speaker 2: his head, Good morning, Good morning. 9 00:00:21,440 --> 00:00:21,880 Speaker 1: How are you? 10 00:00:22,000 --> 00:00:24,479 Speaker 2: I'm blessed Black and Holly favorite, all right, how are you? 11 00:00:24,760 --> 00:00:27,440 Speaker 1: I'm doing all right? You know, all three of us 12 00:00:27,480 --> 00:00:31,240 Speaker 1: in red. I know we got the memo. Yes, that's 13 00:00:31,520 --> 00:00:34,360 Speaker 1: a good sign. You know, when everybody is like in 14 00:00:34,520 --> 00:00:36,479 Speaker 1: sync without even trying. That's right. 15 00:00:36,560 --> 00:00:38,879 Speaker 2: As long as no crips walking here, we'll be fine. 16 00:00:39,640 --> 00:00:41,760 Speaker 2: You've been working in the business since the seventies and 17 00:00:41,800 --> 00:00:45,440 Speaker 2: you gotta you're celebrating your seventieth birthday this month. Yes, Wow, 18 00:00:46,560 --> 00:00:48,720 Speaker 2: do you feel like a legend? 19 00:00:49,080 --> 00:00:52,199 Speaker 1: No, I feel like marsha I just you know, I 20 00:00:52,640 --> 00:00:55,800 Speaker 1: do take every day as it comes, do the best 21 00:00:55,840 --> 00:01:00,640 Speaker 1: I can and hopefully be able to rest at night comfortably. 22 00:01:00,760 --> 00:01:04,440 Speaker 1: So things are going well right now, and I'm very 23 00:01:04,800 --> 00:01:09,080 Speaker 1: grateful for that. And very happy with the way it's 24 00:01:09,080 --> 00:01:13,679 Speaker 1: going in the second half of my career. But no, 25 00:01:14,200 --> 00:01:16,640 Speaker 1: legend is something that I think they just say because 26 00:01:16,680 --> 00:01:18,880 Speaker 1: I'm old. 27 00:01:19,360 --> 00:01:20,800 Speaker 2: You gotta have a ratherme to back it up. 28 00:01:20,840 --> 00:01:24,399 Speaker 1: Though, No, no, you know, if you hang around sooner 29 00:01:24,440 --> 00:01:27,800 Speaker 1: or later, somebody will will say you're a legend. But 30 00:01:27,840 --> 00:01:30,560 Speaker 1: I appreciate it. You know, it's nice to be thought of, 31 00:01:31,560 --> 00:01:34,679 Speaker 1: well thought of, fine people and you just let them 32 00:01:34,720 --> 00:01:35,080 Speaker 1: say that. 33 00:01:35,480 --> 00:01:38,560 Speaker 3: Know better, Yeah, okay, Well it's not often that someone 34 00:01:38,640 --> 00:01:41,600 Speaker 3: with you know, your lunch, you know, like you has 35 00:01:41,640 --> 00:01:43,880 Speaker 3: long jevy in this business and you still manage to 36 00:01:43,880 --> 00:01:48,080 Speaker 3: say book and busy, you want three TV shows right now? 37 00:01:48,600 --> 00:01:51,600 Speaker 1: Like what keeps you going? Well, it's not just you know, 38 00:01:52,720 --> 00:01:56,400 Speaker 1: most people don't get a chance to have one successful career. 39 00:01:56,840 --> 00:02:00,680 Speaker 1: I had one, took off for twenty years, and came 40 00:02:00,720 --> 00:02:05,000 Speaker 1: back and have done it again. So I'm most proud 41 00:02:05,040 --> 00:02:07,920 Speaker 1: of that, of the fact that I could start all 42 00:02:07,960 --> 00:02:12,560 Speaker 1: over again from scratch and then make it work into 43 00:02:12,680 --> 00:02:14,399 Speaker 1: my seventieth year. 44 00:02:15,720 --> 00:02:20,360 Speaker 2: When they called you about the night Court reboot, was 45 00:02:20,360 --> 00:02:22,240 Speaker 2: that something you wanted to do? Did you jump at 46 00:02:22,280 --> 00:02:24,280 Speaker 2: the chance to play Rods again? Or you just was 47 00:02:24,320 --> 00:02:25,160 Speaker 2: like I don't know. 48 00:02:25,919 --> 00:02:30,320 Speaker 1: No, I don't take gigs, and I'm like, I don't know, 49 00:02:30,000 --> 00:02:33,000 Speaker 1: you know, unless it's a whole lot of money involved, 50 00:02:33,639 --> 00:02:36,880 Speaker 1: I'm not putting myself through that. I like night Court. 51 00:02:37,000 --> 00:02:38,920 Speaker 1: Night Court was good for me. It was good to me. 52 00:02:39,280 --> 00:02:42,840 Speaker 1: Hopefully I was good to night Court, And so when 53 00:02:42,840 --> 00:02:46,920 Speaker 1: they called me, it wasn't like I expected it because 54 00:02:46,960 --> 00:02:49,239 Speaker 1: they were going in a whole new direction. They doing 55 00:02:49,280 --> 00:02:52,320 Speaker 1: a whole different show, and I'm cool with that. That's fine. 56 00:02:52,360 --> 00:02:54,720 Speaker 1: I wish you well. I hope it does for you 57 00:02:55,680 --> 00:02:59,240 Speaker 1: what it did for me. I told Lacreta that as 58 00:02:59,320 --> 00:03:01,320 Speaker 1: soon as I met, I said, you know, this is 59 00:03:01,360 --> 00:03:05,119 Speaker 1: your gig now, this is my time has passed as 60 00:03:05,160 --> 00:03:07,440 Speaker 1: far as this is concerned. So you take this ball 61 00:03:07,480 --> 00:03:09,720 Speaker 1: and run with it. I hope it does for you 62 00:03:10,280 --> 00:03:12,840 Speaker 1: what it did for me. So when they called me, 63 00:03:12,919 --> 00:03:16,840 Speaker 1: I was like, well, cool, you know, I'm happy to 64 00:03:16,919 --> 00:03:21,400 Speaker 1: do it. And it just seemed to snowball from there. 65 00:03:21,800 --> 00:03:26,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm sure you know. And see how times have 66 00:03:26,360 --> 00:03:29,560 Speaker 3: changed these days. How did you feel when you found 67 00:03:29,600 --> 00:03:31,160 Speaker 3: out that Ross would be getting married to a woman 68 00:03:31,160 --> 00:03:32,040 Speaker 3: in the season finale? 69 00:03:32,240 --> 00:03:34,400 Speaker 1: Oh, I thought it was great And I love the 70 00:03:34,480 --> 00:03:37,880 Speaker 1: fact that it's not the point of the show. The 71 00:03:37,920 --> 00:03:40,400 Speaker 1: point of the show is that she's getting married. The 72 00:03:40,440 --> 00:03:44,080 Speaker 1: fact that she's getting married to a woman is never mentioned, 73 00:03:44,120 --> 00:03:48,160 Speaker 1: brought up, nothing. It's not a bone of contention at all. 74 00:03:48,680 --> 00:03:51,840 Speaker 1: And that's a long way from where we started, you know, 75 00:03:52,000 --> 00:03:56,040 Speaker 1: from where when I came out right and my mother 76 00:03:56,440 --> 00:03:58,880 Speaker 1: to my mother, and I wasn't even coming out publicly. 77 00:03:59,160 --> 00:04:01,480 Speaker 1: I was coming out to her and she said, well, 78 00:04:01,560 --> 00:04:05,440 Speaker 1: let's you know, I understand, but just you know, don't 79 00:04:05,560 --> 00:04:09,320 Speaker 1: come out as long as I'm alive. I'm like, okay, 80 00:04:09,600 --> 00:04:13,560 Speaker 1: that's a small thing to ask in the bigger problem 81 00:04:13,800 --> 00:04:17,279 Speaker 1: than it was growing up and everything. So I was like, cool, 82 00:04:18,000 --> 00:04:23,159 Speaker 1: But now we can have h this character and not 83 00:04:23,320 --> 00:04:28,919 Speaker 1: just representing being a lesbian, but being a lesbian of 84 00:04:29,040 --> 00:04:33,400 Speaker 1: age of color marrying another woman, so that people know 85 00:04:33,960 --> 00:04:37,440 Speaker 1: there's there's hope. You know, there's hope for people. You 86 00:04:37,520 --> 00:04:42,400 Speaker 1: don't just stop living because you get another birthday and 87 00:04:42,800 --> 00:04:45,400 Speaker 1: there's you don't have to stop looking for love, you know, 88 00:04:45,720 --> 00:04:49,920 Speaker 1: have to stop having sex, You don't have to stop 89 00:04:50,120 --> 00:04:53,120 Speaker 1: doing anything just because you're old. So I like the 90 00:04:53,120 --> 00:04:54,000 Speaker 1: way they handled it. 91 00:04:54,040 --> 00:04:56,000 Speaker 2: When your mother tells you something like that, how do 92 00:04:56,040 --> 00:05:00,960 Speaker 2: you not feel suppressed though, like you're suppressed part of yourself. 93 00:05:01,400 --> 00:05:04,160 Speaker 1: Been suppressing a huge part of myself, my whole life, 94 00:05:04,360 --> 00:05:07,960 Speaker 1: I mean, from birth. And when the society says this 95 00:05:08,080 --> 00:05:12,919 Speaker 1: is negative, this is bad. You know, people try to 96 00:05:13,040 --> 00:05:16,599 Speaker 1: insulect their children and help them because for them they 97 00:05:16,640 --> 00:05:20,960 Speaker 1: see it as one of failure they parenting. And two 98 00:05:21,080 --> 00:05:23,760 Speaker 1: it's like the world is gonna beat you up, so 99 00:05:24,040 --> 00:05:27,200 Speaker 1: let's guide you along this way. So my whole life, 100 00:05:27,680 --> 00:05:30,920 Speaker 1: they've been trying, they had been trying to shift me, 101 00:05:31,560 --> 00:05:34,800 Speaker 1: you know, over to the right side. It's like the 102 00:05:34,880 --> 00:05:37,719 Speaker 1: way they do left handed kids. You know, back in 103 00:05:37,760 --> 00:05:40,279 Speaker 1: the day, they would tie your hands behind your back. 104 00:05:40,400 --> 00:05:43,760 Speaker 1: They would force you to use your right hand, because 105 00:05:43,880 --> 00:05:49,120 Speaker 1: left handed is a sinful, sinister it means left handed 106 00:05:49,160 --> 00:05:53,760 Speaker 1: in French, it was a bad thing. And so they 107 00:05:53,760 --> 00:05:56,360 Speaker 1: would let kids right with their left hand. So yet 108 00:05:56,440 --> 00:06:00,560 Speaker 1: a lot of converted right handers whose mind you know, 109 00:06:00,640 --> 00:06:04,520 Speaker 1: when you're left handed, your mind thinks left handed, you know, 110 00:06:04,640 --> 00:06:09,840 Speaker 1: they open books backwards, they see things totally different. But 111 00:06:09,880 --> 00:06:17,400 Speaker 1: then they had this cat and I've opened the book 112 00:06:17,440 --> 00:06:19,880 Speaker 1: the right way, no, but I've seen left handed people 113 00:06:20,400 --> 00:06:23,280 Speaker 1: open it the other way and go from the back, 114 00:06:24,080 --> 00:06:26,680 Speaker 1: and it's not that they're reading from the back, it's 115 00:06:26,760 --> 00:06:30,320 Speaker 1: just that's how they see it, and so they try 116 00:06:30,320 --> 00:06:32,279 Speaker 1: to shift your whole mind. And the same thing when 117 00:06:32,279 --> 00:06:34,520 Speaker 1: they see your kids. You know, your kid is gay 118 00:06:34,800 --> 00:06:38,120 Speaker 1: from birth. You know, the little boy cries whenever you 119 00:06:38,160 --> 00:06:41,039 Speaker 1: put him in a blue something. Many look, I love 120 00:06:41,160 --> 00:06:46,440 Speaker 1: the pink, and they're like, no, you can't wear a 121 00:06:46,480 --> 00:06:48,360 Speaker 1: pink because you're a little boy. And he's like, but 122 00:06:48,560 --> 00:06:53,160 Speaker 1: I don't care. And so they start shifting you away 123 00:06:53,200 --> 00:06:56,000 Speaker 1: from who you are. So when when you come out 124 00:06:56,200 --> 00:06:59,760 Speaker 1: and you're expecting the worst, you're expecting your parents to 125 00:06:59,839 --> 00:07:05,080 Speaker 1: be offended and defensive and all kind of stuff. And 126 00:07:05,520 --> 00:07:08,480 Speaker 1: some kids get put out of their houses. Some kids 127 00:07:08,520 --> 00:07:13,240 Speaker 1: at fifteen sixteen, their parents can't handle it. All. My 128 00:07:13,280 --> 00:07:16,840 Speaker 1: mother asked, was you know, don't put it out in 129 00:07:16,920 --> 00:07:22,560 Speaker 1: public in the whole world scheme? That was a small thing. 130 00:07:22,880 --> 00:07:25,320 Speaker 1: And my maighbor was like, well, at least she's not 131 00:07:25,480 --> 00:07:28,000 Speaker 1: just owning me. At least she's not condemning me. 132 00:07:28,320 --> 00:07:30,120 Speaker 2: If they tied your hand behind your back for being 133 00:07:30,200 --> 00:07:31,760 Speaker 2: left handed, I don't want to know what they did 134 00:07:31,800 --> 00:07:32,480 Speaker 2: to give people back. 135 00:07:32,520 --> 00:07:37,960 Speaker 1: Then they just tell you you're different, you're different. 136 00:07:38,600 --> 00:07:40,720 Speaker 2: When you started playing back the character of Rosie, it 137 00:07:40,760 --> 00:07:44,320 Speaker 2: feels like a continuation or reintroduction. 138 00:07:45,080 --> 00:07:46,600 Speaker 1: There's a little bit of both. You know that a 139 00:07:46,680 --> 00:07:51,920 Speaker 1: lot of time passed, so you know, Rod's was my 140 00:07:52,080 --> 00:07:54,520 Speaker 1: goal at the time was I had just done nine 141 00:07:54,600 --> 00:07:58,360 Speaker 1: one one and playing Hen's mother, you know, with the 142 00:07:58,600 --> 00:08:02,200 Speaker 1: short hair and every thing. They kind of established a 143 00:08:02,240 --> 00:08:05,440 Speaker 1: look and for that character. So I wanted Roz to 144 00:08:05,520 --> 00:08:08,920 Speaker 1: be more like she was back in the day with 145 00:08:09,000 --> 00:08:11,320 Speaker 1: the haircut and stuff. So I got the wig and 146 00:08:12,840 --> 00:08:17,320 Speaker 1: went in that direction. But yeah, we picked up Roz 147 00:08:18,360 --> 00:08:20,560 Speaker 1: thirty years later for to have how many years it's 148 00:08:20,600 --> 00:08:23,360 Speaker 1: been and caught up with her life and I got 149 00:08:23,360 --> 00:08:25,240 Speaker 1: to meet her again too. I don't know what happened 150 00:08:25,240 --> 00:08:25,520 Speaker 1: to her. 151 00:08:27,040 --> 00:08:31,160 Speaker 2: You was on TV. When being on TV meant something, 152 00:08:31,680 --> 00:08:34,959 Speaker 2: are you like, it was like real celebrity and being 153 00:08:35,080 --> 00:08:38,040 Speaker 2: really famous. So I did plan Roz back then in 154 00:08:38,080 --> 00:08:39,480 Speaker 2: the eighties change everything for you. 155 00:08:39,840 --> 00:08:42,840 Speaker 1: Well, you know, back in the day, there were just 156 00:08:43,920 --> 00:08:46,880 Speaker 1: there weren't as many opportunities. There was only three channels, 157 00:08:47,920 --> 00:08:52,440 Speaker 1: and cable was new, Showtime and HBO were just about 158 00:08:52,559 --> 00:08:55,840 Speaker 1: all the whole game, and so they didn't have as 159 00:08:55,920 --> 00:08:58,280 Speaker 1: many dating but there was no streaming. There was no 160 00:08:58,679 --> 00:09:01,080 Speaker 1: you know, and I tell people about like selfies and 161 00:09:01,120 --> 00:09:04,360 Speaker 1: stuff like y'all got pictures of everything you do. We 162 00:09:04,400 --> 00:09:06,480 Speaker 1: ain't have no pictures. We ain't had no It was 163 00:09:06,520 --> 00:09:09,840 Speaker 1: a big deal when somebody took a picture. So the 164 00:09:09,920 --> 00:09:15,040 Speaker 1: whole technology change. And as the technology changed, the opportunities 165 00:09:15,640 --> 00:09:22,680 Speaker 1: opportunities expanded. Plus, uh, black people have and women have 166 00:09:22,679 --> 00:09:27,600 Speaker 1: have pushed the boundaries so far away from where they were. 167 00:09:27,679 --> 00:09:29,760 Speaker 1: When I was a kid, there were no black people 168 00:09:29,800 --> 00:09:32,040 Speaker 1: on the other there were no shows like this, There 169 00:09:32,120 --> 00:09:34,920 Speaker 1: was none of that stuff. All of this stuff is new, 170 00:09:34,960 --> 00:09:38,160 Speaker 1: and it built up, built up from the Civil Rights movement, 171 00:09:38,840 --> 00:09:43,960 Speaker 1: through the Black Power movement into more demands and more 172 00:09:44,679 --> 00:09:49,160 Speaker 1: Red Fox and Bill Cosby and Flip Wilson saying, we 173 00:09:49,240 --> 00:09:52,960 Speaker 1: need representation behind the camera. I need somebody who knows 174 00:09:53,240 --> 00:09:55,960 Speaker 1: my skin tones to do my makeup. I know people 175 00:09:56,280 --> 00:09:59,400 Speaker 1: to do lighting and things who can understand how to 176 00:09:59,520 --> 00:10:03,240 Speaker 1: light black people. And so we need more managers and 177 00:10:03,320 --> 00:10:06,600 Speaker 1: agents and stuff, and all those things started happening. And 178 00:10:06,640 --> 00:10:10,439 Speaker 1: I was talking about it last night when Robin Harris 179 00:10:10,880 --> 00:10:13,480 Speaker 1: said at the Comedy Store, because we used to wait 180 00:10:14,160 --> 00:10:17,160 Speaker 1: for Paul Mooney not to show up, so we could 181 00:10:17,200 --> 00:10:19,560 Speaker 1: take a spot. That was the only way we could 182 00:10:19,559 --> 00:10:22,360 Speaker 1: get a spot at the comedy store, and Paul Mooney 183 00:10:22,520 --> 00:10:26,120 Speaker 1: always showed up. And so Robin said, I can't do 184 00:10:26,160 --> 00:10:28,079 Speaker 1: this no more. Marshall, I got to work, I got 185 00:10:28,120 --> 00:10:31,680 Speaker 1: to do I'm going back home. And I said, you know, 186 00:10:31,760 --> 00:10:35,520 Speaker 1: that's cool, but you know the industry comes through here 187 00:10:35,720 --> 00:10:39,080 Speaker 1: looking fatalities. I don't care. I'm going home. So he 188 00:10:39,160 --> 00:10:41,800 Speaker 1: went back and worked all the clubs we worked, you know, 189 00:10:42,720 --> 00:10:47,560 Speaker 1: to stay sharp, but didn't have the same exposure well 190 00:10:47,600 --> 00:10:50,400 Speaker 1: when he went back, and then he met Michael Williams, 191 00:10:50,440 --> 00:10:55,200 Speaker 1: and the Comedy act Theater became a thing, and now 192 00:10:55,240 --> 00:10:57,720 Speaker 1: we have more black people behind the scenes, we have 193 00:10:57,840 --> 00:11:01,000 Speaker 1: more black people coming out the mail room and become 194 00:11:01,040 --> 00:11:04,559 Speaker 1: an agency now there. Then we had the cable uh, 195 00:11:04,679 --> 00:11:08,439 Speaker 1: the cable WebLETS started w B, the whatever and the 196 00:11:09,240 --> 00:11:13,240 Speaker 1: Frog Network and all those things. And so now they're 197 00:11:13,320 --> 00:11:17,679 Speaker 1: looking for talent. So instead of going to the comedy 198 00:11:17,720 --> 00:11:21,360 Speaker 1: store on the way home uh from the agency it's 199 00:11:21,520 --> 00:11:26,800 Speaker 1: black Uh, producers and managers and things could now go 200 00:11:27,000 --> 00:11:30,320 Speaker 1: the other way and come back and find a talent 201 00:11:30,480 --> 00:11:34,440 Speaker 1: pool of black talent, and a lot of those shows 202 00:11:34,880 --> 00:11:39,400 Speaker 1: were cast from that pool, and it kind of all 203 00:11:39,440 --> 00:11:43,800 Speaker 1: came together through the efforts of everybody along the way, 204 00:11:43,880 --> 00:11:52,120 Speaker 1: but Keenan and Robin Robert Townshend doing doing Hollywood Shuffle 205 00:11:52,600 --> 00:11:55,640 Speaker 1: and independently, then we're gonna make a movie, and where 206 00:11:55,679 --> 00:11:57,920 Speaker 1: you're gonna get some money to make a movie. And 207 00:11:57,920 --> 00:11:59,560 Speaker 1: they said, well, we're gonna do it. We're gonna do it 208 00:12:00,080 --> 00:12:02,520 Speaker 1: my credit cards, we're going to somebody, we're gonna hustle 209 00:12:02,559 --> 00:12:05,200 Speaker 1: it up. And they actually hustled it up and made 210 00:12:05,200 --> 00:12:08,800 Speaker 1: a movie that stands up today. And so all of 211 00:12:08,840 --> 00:12:14,960 Speaker 1: those things happened, you know, kind of organically, and followed 212 00:12:15,000 --> 00:12:20,200 Speaker 1: the trends of the technology changes and took advantage of 213 00:12:20,280 --> 00:12:24,120 Speaker 1: all of the opportunities that they made happen, and we 214 00:12:24,320 --> 00:12:27,920 Speaker 1: just kept on going until now you have representation. You 215 00:12:27,960 --> 00:12:31,679 Speaker 1: have you know, the idea that you can watch TV 216 00:12:32,320 --> 00:12:37,360 Speaker 1: twenty four hours a day and only see black people's 217 00:12:37,600 --> 00:12:40,760 Speaker 1: mind boggling to somebody who grew up with Ozzie and 218 00:12:40,840 --> 00:12:44,000 Speaker 1: Harriet and that kind of thing and leave it to beaver. 219 00:12:44,160 --> 00:12:50,000 Speaker 1: So I happened to be just come about in that 220 00:12:50,240 --> 00:12:56,360 Speaker 1: time period where it was between you know, when things 221 00:12:56,360 --> 00:12:59,840 Speaker 1: were coming up, and I got lucky and ended up 222 00:12:59,880 --> 00:13:02,080 Speaker 1: on Night Court and the rest is history. 223 00:13:02,800 --> 00:13:06,800 Speaker 3: But I love how like you get excited when you 224 00:13:06,800 --> 00:13:09,439 Speaker 3: talk about like back then and stand up and all 225 00:13:09,440 --> 00:13:09,719 Speaker 3: of that. 226 00:13:10,080 --> 00:13:13,440 Speaker 1: Is that still your first love? I love stand up. 227 00:13:13,480 --> 00:13:17,560 Speaker 1: That's my I don't see myself as an actress actor. 228 00:13:18,040 --> 00:13:22,920 Speaker 1: I was reluctantly dragged into acting because I wanted to 229 00:13:24,720 --> 00:13:26,959 Speaker 1: save my piece. I wanted to be a standum. I 230 00:13:26,960 --> 00:13:29,920 Speaker 1: wanted to compete with the big boys. I wanted to 231 00:13:32,000 --> 00:13:37,040 Speaker 1: do stand up and so learning how to do, how 232 00:13:37,040 --> 00:13:39,120 Speaker 1: to act and all that kind of stuff, I'd learned 233 00:13:39,160 --> 00:13:41,640 Speaker 1: all of that on the job. I didn't know anything. 234 00:13:41,760 --> 00:13:45,120 Speaker 1: It never took a I took a class once and 235 00:13:45,160 --> 00:13:48,240 Speaker 1: they told me to get a book and said, you know, 236 00:13:48,360 --> 00:13:50,679 Speaker 1: read the book. And I opened it up and they 237 00:13:50,679 --> 00:13:54,000 Speaker 1: said on the first page, the key to acting is 238 00:13:54,040 --> 00:13:59,880 Speaker 1: to keep it simple. So I closed the book. I 239 00:14:00,160 --> 00:14:03,920 Speaker 1: never went back to the class. So I was lucky 240 00:14:04,000 --> 00:14:06,439 Speaker 1: enough to be on the show. At a time it 241 00:14:06,480 --> 00:14:09,480 Speaker 1: was like the Number four Show and tv H you 242 00:14:09,559 --> 00:14:14,040 Speaker 1: had actors. John Larrick had getting nominated every time he 243 00:14:14,120 --> 00:14:16,760 Speaker 1: opened his mouth. He had nominated for a nummy so 244 00:14:17,120 --> 00:14:20,520 Speaker 1: often he took his name out of contention. Uh And 245 00:14:20,560 --> 00:14:25,080 Speaker 1: they were Marky and and these actors. And I told 246 00:14:25,160 --> 00:14:28,560 Speaker 1: Harry when I first got there, I'm like, I'm not 247 00:14:28,600 --> 00:14:30,280 Speaker 1: an actor. I don't know how to do this. He said, 248 00:14:30,320 --> 00:14:34,680 Speaker 1: I'm not either. He said, we just watch them and 249 00:14:34,840 --> 00:14:38,240 Speaker 1: do what they do. And so they made it easy 250 00:14:38,280 --> 00:14:39,880 Speaker 1: for me and I learned on the job. 251 00:14:41,120 --> 00:14:42,640 Speaker 2: Just a question for you know you and you know 252 00:14:42,800 --> 00:14:44,880 Speaker 2: just Lara, she does stand up as well. Is that 253 00:14:45,080 --> 00:14:46,200 Speaker 2: age your safe space? 254 00:14:47,720 --> 00:14:51,840 Speaker 1: No, it's not nothing safe on stage. You're out there 255 00:14:51,920 --> 00:14:57,480 Speaker 1: by yourself. But the thing I think everybody has to 256 00:14:58,320 --> 00:15:01,240 Speaker 1: keep in mind when you do stand up, it's you're 257 00:15:01,240 --> 00:15:05,800 Speaker 1: doing you. It's all about you, and the closer you 258 00:15:05,880 --> 00:15:10,080 Speaker 1: are to who you really are, the better you know 259 00:15:10,240 --> 00:15:16,200 Speaker 1: you're you. We we uh come from a tradition where 260 00:15:16,760 --> 00:15:21,160 Speaker 1: for years black people weren't allowed to be themselves. Especially 261 00:15:21,920 --> 00:15:24,520 Speaker 1: there weren't no very few black men with moms. Maybeley 262 00:15:24,600 --> 00:15:28,240 Speaker 1: and that was it, but black men weren't allowed to 263 00:15:28,240 --> 00:15:31,680 Speaker 1: have facial hair, they weren't allowed to wear suits. They 264 00:15:31,840 --> 00:15:39,000 Speaker 1: had to be characters and play basically minstrels. And so 265 00:15:39,520 --> 00:15:43,560 Speaker 1: in the fifties and sixties, and people like like Dick 266 00:15:43,600 --> 00:15:47,200 Speaker 1: Gregory and Timmy Rodgers and said, now we're going to 267 00:15:47,280 --> 00:15:51,000 Speaker 1: do it different and we're going to be people and 268 00:15:51,240 --> 00:15:54,520 Speaker 1: speak our minds. This was this was not allowed. You 269 00:15:54,560 --> 00:16:00,720 Speaker 1: weren't allowed to trick white people intellectually. And so to 270 00:16:00,800 --> 00:16:03,400 Speaker 1: be yourself and to be close to who you are, 271 00:16:03,480 --> 00:16:07,520 Speaker 1: you can't fail at being you. And so if you'd 272 00:16:07,560 --> 00:16:10,440 Speaker 1: be the best you you can be, you're always going 273 00:16:10,520 --> 00:16:11,080 Speaker 1: to succeed. 274 00:16:12,280 --> 00:16:14,920 Speaker 2: I like that you said you can't. You said you 275 00:16:14,960 --> 00:16:16,000 Speaker 2: can't trick white people. 276 00:16:16,840 --> 00:16:19,760 Speaker 1: You can't trick white people intellectually. That was against the law, 277 00:16:19,800 --> 00:16:25,080 Speaker 1: and in the South, that was dangerous. Dick Gregory said 278 00:16:25,120 --> 00:16:28,640 Speaker 1: after a show, the group of white men came in. 279 00:16:28,920 --> 00:16:33,240 Speaker 1: He was he ordered a whole chicken and uh, and 280 00:16:33,840 --> 00:16:36,760 Speaker 1: these white men came up behind him and said, whatever 281 00:16:36,800 --> 00:16:39,520 Speaker 1: you do to that chicken, we're going to do to you. 282 00:16:40,960 --> 00:16:42,400 Speaker 2: So she ate the chickens ass. 283 00:16:42,880 --> 00:16:55,200 Speaker 1: You picked the chicken up and kissed it. So that 284 00:16:55,400 --> 00:16:58,760 Speaker 1: was the climate, you know, And and again he won 285 00:16:58,920 --> 00:17:00,800 Speaker 1: by tricking the people for tricking them. 286 00:17:01,080 --> 00:17:05,399 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's amazing that you know, we act like like 287 00:17:05,440 --> 00:17:07,640 Speaker 2: when it comes to entertainment. And I was gonna ask 288 00:17:07,640 --> 00:17:09,160 Speaker 2: you about like roles that they've asked you to play 289 00:17:09,160 --> 00:17:10,720 Speaker 2: if they ever asked you to play a role that 290 00:17:10,800 --> 00:17:12,480 Speaker 2: might have been pushing some sort of propaganda. 291 00:17:12,920 --> 00:17:17,119 Speaker 1: Oh all the time, Holly, I refused. I came about 292 00:17:17,400 --> 00:17:23,840 Speaker 1: in the Black Exploitation, and before Black Exploitation, I don't 293 00:17:23,840 --> 00:17:28,520 Speaker 1: think there had been any roles for black women where 294 00:17:28,560 --> 00:17:31,360 Speaker 1: you where they didn't play a maid or a whoror 295 00:17:32,400 --> 00:17:36,879 Speaker 1: and most often the maid, and even some of the 296 00:17:36,920 --> 00:17:41,119 Speaker 1: classics that everybody loves, imitation of life, you know, the maid. 297 00:17:41,840 --> 00:17:44,119 Speaker 1: And I said, I will never play a maid or horror, 298 00:17:44,640 --> 00:17:48,840 Speaker 1: never ever. And so when roles came up and the 299 00:17:48,920 --> 00:17:50,800 Speaker 1: maid is she has a heart of goal and she 300 00:17:50,840 --> 00:17:52,959 Speaker 1: wins up and she ends up being and she's a 301 00:17:52,960 --> 00:17:55,280 Speaker 1: corpus comestter, but she's a maid, I said, if she's 302 00:17:55,280 --> 00:17:57,840 Speaker 1: a maid, I'm not playing her. So I turned down 303 00:17:57,840 --> 00:18:00,680 Speaker 1: a lot of roles, and I think we have to 304 00:18:01,080 --> 00:18:03,639 Speaker 1: start encouraging people. We have to lose to go along, 305 00:18:03,720 --> 00:18:07,040 Speaker 1: to get along mindset, you know, and get back to 306 00:18:07,080 --> 00:18:13,040 Speaker 1: the to the kick ass, you know, yeah, mindset that 307 00:18:13,560 --> 00:18:15,399 Speaker 1: you know, you draw your own line in the sand, 308 00:18:15,440 --> 00:18:18,959 Speaker 1: and you you have the right to say no, you know, 309 00:18:19,080 --> 00:18:23,960 Speaker 1: and and we don't always feel that we have that 310 00:18:24,080 --> 00:18:27,360 Speaker 1: kind of agency to say, man, I ain't doing that even. 311 00:18:27,200 --> 00:18:28,760 Speaker 3: If they make you feel bad for it, you know, 312 00:18:28,960 --> 00:18:32,760 Speaker 3: like because they will agents, and you know, it's even 313 00:18:32,840 --> 00:18:35,080 Speaker 3: like happens to me, like I will say no, Like 314 00:18:35,200 --> 00:18:38,520 Speaker 3: I was offered like three or four roles to play 315 00:18:39,200 --> 00:18:41,520 Speaker 3: a crackhead, you know, and but these would have been 316 00:18:41,520 --> 00:18:43,879 Speaker 3: my first roles and I don't. 317 00:18:44,200 --> 00:18:45,240 Speaker 1: I didn't want to do that. 318 00:18:45,280 --> 00:18:47,200 Speaker 3: And I remember meeting, oh my god, the guy that 319 00:18:47,280 --> 00:18:50,320 Speaker 3: played Eddie Kane. He was on the set of Row 320 00:18:50,400 --> 00:18:52,880 Speaker 3: I did a sitcom, which was my first big role 321 00:18:54,200 --> 00:18:54,760 Speaker 3: for Fox. 322 00:18:54,920 --> 00:18:57,320 Speaker 1: But his name is Michael God. 323 00:18:57,560 --> 00:18:59,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, Michael Rainey, I want to say, or something like that. 324 00:18:59,520 --> 00:19:01,760 Speaker 3: But he played in the Five Part Beats and he 325 00:19:01,800 --> 00:19:03,760 Speaker 3: was Eddie Kane. And I met him on seton and 326 00:19:03,840 --> 00:19:07,359 Speaker 3: he told me, if you let them, they will keep 327 00:19:07,440 --> 00:19:11,720 Speaker 3: casting you for the roles that they want to see 328 00:19:11,760 --> 00:19:14,080 Speaker 3: you portray, you know, not for you know, and I 329 00:19:14,160 --> 00:19:16,280 Speaker 3: just I never. I grew up in Baltimore City. That's 330 00:19:16,320 --> 00:19:18,240 Speaker 3: all I seen growing up. I didn't want to play 331 00:19:18,240 --> 00:19:21,120 Speaker 3: that role. I'm not saying never, but that's not They 332 00:19:21,200 --> 00:19:23,760 Speaker 3: kept my agents kept bringing that to me, My manager 333 00:19:23,840 --> 00:19:26,359 Speaker 3: kept bringing that to me, and I remember him saying, 334 00:19:26,680 --> 00:19:29,919 Speaker 3: Michael right, Michael Wright, sorry. I remember he was like 335 00:19:31,200 --> 00:19:34,000 Speaker 3: my manager. He was like, this is you. The scene opens, 336 00:19:34,440 --> 00:19:39,200 Speaker 3: You're pissing behind a dumpster. Yep, after you snorted and 337 00:19:39,240 --> 00:19:40,600 Speaker 3: I'm like, and he said, I could just see you 338 00:19:40,680 --> 00:19:41,080 Speaker 3: play this. 339 00:19:41,359 --> 00:19:42,119 Speaker 1: You don't know how. 340 00:19:42,000 --> 00:19:44,960 Speaker 3: Insultant that was. I fired him, but that was that 341 00:19:45,080 --> 00:19:48,080 Speaker 3: was very I just couldn't believe. He said, I see 342 00:19:48,200 --> 00:19:51,280 Speaker 3: when I first read this, I thought of you, and 343 00:19:51,400 --> 00:19:54,159 Speaker 3: to see I'm like, damn. 344 00:19:54,960 --> 00:19:57,760 Speaker 1: We forget they worked for us. Yeah, don't work for 345 00:19:57,800 --> 00:20:01,000 Speaker 1: your manager. And they take the position that you do 346 00:20:01,119 --> 00:20:03,520 Speaker 1: work for them and that you have to do it, 347 00:20:03,560 --> 00:20:05,520 Speaker 1: they say, and you have to let them know. No, 348 00:20:05,640 --> 00:20:08,320 Speaker 1: I'm the boss of me, Like I said, do you 349 00:20:08,480 --> 00:20:11,400 Speaker 1: I'm doing me. I'm not doing what you see me. Yeah, 350 00:20:11,560 --> 00:20:13,320 Speaker 1: so no, that ain't gonna work. 351 00:20:14,640 --> 00:20:15,400 Speaker 2: Are you having fun? 352 00:20:16,040 --> 00:20:19,560 Speaker 1: I'm having a ball, you know. I believe you know. 353 00:20:19,640 --> 00:20:21,679 Speaker 1: I walked in here in the whole room is orange 354 00:20:21,680 --> 00:20:24,240 Speaker 1: and red and everything, so you know this is the 355 00:20:24,280 --> 00:20:26,720 Speaker 1: way it's meant to be. I'm I'm doing great. 356 00:20:27,320 --> 00:20:29,720 Speaker 2: We'll tell us about your One woman showed the Book 357 00:20:29,720 --> 00:20:30,240 Speaker 2: of Marshall. 358 00:20:30,800 --> 00:20:32,760 Speaker 1: People always told me that I should write a book, 359 00:20:32,840 --> 00:20:34,639 Speaker 1: and I'm like, I'm not a writer. I'm a stand 360 00:20:34,680 --> 00:20:36,800 Speaker 1: up so if you want to know my story, you 361 00:20:36,880 --> 00:20:40,959 Speaker 1: have to come see me do standups. Ah, and I 362 00:20:41,000 --> 00:20:43,480 Speaker 1: can tell you better than I can write it down. 363 00:20:44,080 --> 00:20:46,640 Speaker 1: And I didn't want to go through the ghostwriter thing 364 00:20:46,840 --> 00:20:50,159 Speaker 1: and have somebody else write my story. And I approve it, 365 00:20:50,200 --> 00:20:55,280 Speaker 1: so I it's a kind of autobiographical stand up. I 366 00:20:55,320 --> 00:20:57,359 Speaker 1: grew up on R and B. I'm a big R 367 00:20:57,400 --> 00:21:00,600 Speaker 1: and B fan. That's my that's my thing. And so 368 00:21:00,800 --> 00:21:04,480 Speaker 1: I sing a lot, and I you know, I'm not 369 00:21:04,560 --> 00:21:07,560 Speaker 1: a singer, but I have music in the show. You 370 00:21:07,640 --> 00:21:10,919 Speaker 1: know how you know how you have a party, and 371 00:21:11,040 --> 00:21:15,240 Speaker 1: whenever we have a party, there's always music playing. But 372 00:21:15,400 --> 00:21:19,520 Speaker 1: at about ten o'clock or so, that Auntie comes in 373 00:21:19,560 --> 00:21:21,240 Speaker 1: and say, okay, that's enough of that bang bang, no, 374 00:21:21,359 --> 00:21:25,280 Speaker 1: it's lifting on some music. Play my record. And everybody goes, 375 00:21:25,520 --> 00:21:29,920 Speaker 1: what's a record? And she don't. Don't get smart with me, boy, 376 00:21:30,240 --> 00:21:34,040 Speaker 1: and play my record. And so I'm that Auntie and 377 00:21:34,160 --> 00:21:39,280 Speaker 1: this show is it's where I get to like it's 378 00:21:39,320 --> 00:21:43,639 Speaker 1: like a theatrical show, but it's like coming into my kitchen. 379 00:21:43,680 --> 00:21:46,760 Speaker 1: You know. She always takes her place in the kitchen, 380 00:21:47,240 --> 00:21:52,200 Speaker 1: that Auntie and starts talking about everybody else's foods and stuff. 381 00:21:52,880 --> 00:21:56,480 Speaker 1: So that's the way the show hopefully feels like you've 382 00:21:56,560 --> 00:22:00,640 Speaker 1: come into my party at the time where was down 383 00:22:00,720 --> 00:22:03,200 Speaker 1: now to the real people and not just the people 384 00:22:03,240 --> 00:22:04,320 Speaker 1: you have to be fake with. 385 00:22:05,480 --> 00:22:07,239 Speaker 2: Who helped you on the on the come up? 386 00:22:07,560 --> 00:22:11,640 Speaker 1: Everybody, everybody, everybody you know. That first night I went 387 00:22:11,640 --> 00:22:14,120 Speaker 1: to the comedy store, well, the first night I went 388 00:22:14,200 --> 00:22:18,280 Speaker 1: to do stand up, it was because Tom dreason had 389 00:22:18,440 --> 00:22:23,240 Speaker 1: just started open Mic Night. We had never had one 390 00:22:23,240 --> 00:22:26,560 Speaker 1: in Chicago, and he had just started opening Mike Night 391 00:22:26,640 --> 00:22:29,800 Speaker 1: after he broke up with Tim Reid and they had 392 00:22:29,800 --> 00:22:34,960 Speaker 1: a Tim and Tom comedy team. And uh so that's 393 00:22:35,040 --> 00:22:40,280 Speaker 1: when I met a bunch of people who helped me 394 00:22:40,320 --> 00:22:43,240 Speaker 1: along in my career. Brad Anders who used to do 395 00:22:45,320 --> 00:22:49,840 Speaker 1: the It's Your World, It's Your World radio show and 396 00:22:50,520 --> 00:22:52,879 Speaker 1: he's done a lot of movies in the Hollywood Shuffle 397 00:22:52,920 --> 00:22:56,800 Speaker 1: and stuff, and Tom Dreeson and the whole bunch of 398 00:22:56,840 --> 00:22:59,360 Speaker 1: other people helped me along. And I stayed in Chicago 399 00:22:59,400 --> 00:23:01,880 Speaker 1: for a couple of year, and then the first night 400 00:23:01,880 --> 00:23:04,800 Speaker 1: I got to the comedy store, the first person I 401 00:23:04,880 --> 00:23:08,600 Speaker 1: met was John Witherspoon. He was at the door. He 402 00:23:08,640 --> 00:23:11,240 Speaker 1: played He played tennis back then, so he had on 403 00:23:11,320 --> 00:23:15,640 Speaker 1: tennis shorts and had a sweater haat around his neck 404 00:23:15,760 --> 00:23:19,199 Speaker 1: like a preppy dude, and he started talking. I'm like, 405 00:23:19,200 --> 00:23:22,000 Speaker 1: you're not from here, he said, no, I'm from Detroit. 406 00:23:22,240 --> 00:23:25,080 Speaker 1: So I'm from Chicago. He said. I introduced you to 407 00:23:25,119 --> 00:23:28,720 Speaker 1: people as they came in, and one of the people 408 00:23:28,760 --> 00:23:32,680 Speaker 1: he introduced me to was Paul Mooney, and he said, 409 00:23:32,680 --> 00:23:34,920 Speaker 1: this is Paul Mooney. I said, hey, Paul. He said, 410 00:23:35,000 --> 00:23:39,720 Speaker 1: mister Paul Mooney, and I said yes, sir. And so 411 00:23:40,400 --> 00:23:43,240 Speaker 1: then we hung out and Nest started talking. That's where 412 00:23:43,280 --> 00:23:47,440 Speaker 1: I learned how to drink kognac because I was, you know, young. 413 00:23:47,560 --> 00:23:51,960 Speaker 1: I'm twenty two, and so I'm still in the stage 414 00:23:51,960 --> 00:23:56,080 Speaker 1: where I'm drinking fruit the umbrella drinks or I'm drinking 415 00:23:56,320 --> 00:23:59,840 Speaker 1: or trying to drink like grown people. And I don't know. 416 00:24:00,040 --> 00:24:02,040 Speaker 1: For a while, I was drinking Scotch and milk. 417 00:24:03,880 --> 00:24:05,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, me telling them club bathrooms up. 418 00:24:05,800 --> 00:24:10,520 Speaker 1: It was nasty. But he was drinking this. This drinking. 419 00:24:10,560 --> 00:24:13,960 Speaker 1: Back then, they used to light your cone jack first 420 00:24:14,600 --> 00:24:17,360 Speaker 1: and so the you know, burn and warm it up. 421 00:24:18,040 --> 00:24:20,560 Speaker 1: And they learned that you were burning all the alcohol 422 00:24:20,680 --> 00:24:23,960 Speaker 1: off and so stopped doing that. But it all came 423 00:24:24,000 --> 00:24:26,719 Speaker 1: with a flourish, you know, and I was like intrigued, 424 00:24:27,160 --> 00:24:30,000 Speaker 1: and he was drinking out of a sniffer and and 425 00:24:30,080 --> 00:24:32,800 Speaker 1: what is that? Is what he said. This is the 426 00:24:32,880 --> 00:24:39,080 Speaker 1: stuff Massa wouldn't let us have. So if it's free, 427 00:24:39,280 --> 00:24:43,920 Speaker 1: always get the kognak. So I started drinking kognak. And 428 00:24:45,160 --> 00:24:47,439 Speaker 1: from that point on, he got us all on the 429 00:24:47,520 --> 00:24:51,320 Speaker 1: Bridge prior show, the where we all got our union 430 00:24:51,359 --> 00:24:56,399 Speaker 1: cards and everything. And then as time went on, he 431 00:24:56,440 --> 00:24:59,919 Speaker 1: would help people get gigs. Whenever he was in, you know, 432 00:25:00,480 --> 00:25:02,399 Speaker 1: he would recommend me. And then when I got my 433 00:25:02,520 --> 00:25:06,399 Speaker 1: talk show, I hired him as the as the head writer, 434 00:25:06,880 --> 00:25:10,680 Speaker 1: and so we went back and forth collaborated. And that's 435 00:25:10,760 --> 00:25:13,439 Speaker 1: one thing I just want to say. We talk about 436 00:25:13,840 --> 00:25:17,479 Speaker 1: how we don't stick together, and I don't know where 437 00:25:17,560 --> 00:25:20,600 Speaker 1: that comes from. It's like some people were come in 438 00:25:20,600 --> 00:25:23,680 Speaker 1: here with everybody in their family, a whole posse full 439 00:25:23,720 --> 00:25:27,160 Speaker 1: of people following behind them, and we all stick together. 440 00:25:27,240 --> 00:25:33,720 Speaker 1: I'm like, hey, and they help him. I signed him 441 00:25:33,760 --> 00:25:36,119 Speaker 1: to my label. I got a deal, and I signed 442 00:25:36,119 --> 00:25:39,679 Speaker 1: that girl over there, and it's we all stand on 443 00:25:39,720 --> 00:25:42,160 Speaker 1: each other the shoulders, and we all stand side the side. 444 00:25:42,200 --> 00:25:45,600 Speaker 1: And people have always helped and open doors and did 445 00:25:45,680 --> 00:25:47,240 Speaker 1: you go and check out this so and so they 446 00:25:47,240 --> 00:25:49,040 Speaker 1: got a gig over there. It's not right for me, 447 00:25:49,400 --> 00:25:52,280 Speaker 1: but that might work for you. And that kind of 448 00:25:52,359 --> 00:25:57,240 Speaker 1: networking and everything is what made that kind of progress 449 00:25:57,280 --> 00:26:00,520 Speaker 1: I was talking about earlier happened. So we doced it together, 450 00:26:00,560 --> 00:26:03,199 Speaker 1: and we have to change the narrative. It's not like 451 00:26:03,240 --> 00:26:06,080 Speaker 1: you change the facts, but when other people tell your 452 00:26:06,119 --> 00:26:11,600 Speaker 1: story and then you internalize it, now you're saying things 453 00:26:11,600 --> 00:26:15,879 Speaker 1: that ain't true while you're living your own truths. So 454 00:26:16,000 --> 00:26:19,359 Speaker 1: we have to start telling those truths and we stick 455 00:26:19,400 --> 00:26:26,320 Speaker 1: together real good. And and I've never had any situation 456 00:26:26,400 --> 00:26:31,639 Speaker 1: when I came back Wander Sykes, Kim Whitley and the 457 00:26:31,760 --> 00:26:36,719 Speaker 1: Dell Gibbings and there's so many others helped me in 458 00:26:36,760 --> 00:26:40,960 Speaker 1: all kinds of ways, gave me gigs and it just 459 00:26:41,800 --> 00:26:48,800 Speaker 1: helped me out. I am passionate about how dependent we 460 00:26:48,920 --> 00:26:51,320 Speaker 1: are on each other and how we come through for 461 00:26:51,400 --> 00:26:56,000 Speaker 1: each other. So we need to change those those narratives 462 00:26:56,119 --> 00:26:56,840 Speaker 1: that just live. 463 00:26:57,680 --> 00:26:59,480 Speaker 2: It's just for us not to forget when we get 464 00:26:59,520 --> 00:27:00,840 Speaker 2: in those position, because it feel like you had a 465 00:27:00,840 --> 00:27:03,680 Speaker 2: bunch of unwritten contracts, Like when I get here, I'm 466 00:27:03,680 --> 00:27:05,200 Speaker 2: gonna look out for you, and you hear you look 467 00:27:05,200 --> 00:27:05,600 Speaker 2: out for me. 468 00:27:06,359 --> 00:27:09,840 Speaker 1: Well, you know, you're you're kind of forced into that. 469 00:27:09,920 --> 00:27:13,000 Speaker 1: At the comedy store, like I said, everybody's waiting for 470 00:27:13,040 --> 00:27:17,920 Speaker 1: a spot, trying to get on, and you're all together talking, sharing, 471 00:27:19,880 --> 00:27:22,040 Speaker 1: you know, as a group, and so you're kind of 472 00:27:22,080 --> 00:27:25,800 Speaker 1: forced into it. But then you're looking at people, like 473 00:27:25,840 --> 00:27:30,320 Speaker 1: I said, who are making those demands, who are making changes? 474 00:27:30,359 --> 00:27:34,359 Speaker 1: Who are who are opening doors unions that were closed 475 00:27:34,920 --> 00:27:37,640 Speaker 1: and if you weren't related to somebody, you didn't get 476 00:27:37,680 --> 00:27:40,480 Speaker 1: in certain units. But they said, no, that doesn't work, 477 00:27:40,520 --> 00:27:43,760 Speaker 1: and let's let's open these things up. And they fought 478 00:27:43,880 --> 00:27:48,439 Speaker 1: for these opportunities that we, you know, wasked into. So 479 00:27:49,200 --> 00:27:53,600 Speaker 1: uh and I think that's been tradition all along, but 480 00:27:53,760 --> 00:27:57,400 Speaker 1: we don't. We've never had the opportunity to tell those stories. 481 00:27:57,440 --> 00:27:59,560 Speaker 1: And now we do, and we can tell them from 482 00:27:59,640 --> 00:28:03,919 Speaker 1: a perspective. You don't change the facts, but you change 483 00:28:03,960 --> 00:28:07,840 Speaker 1: the perspective. You know, something can happen if we all 484 00:28:07,880 --> 00:28:10,960 Speaker 1: watch an an accident happen, we all saw something different 485 00:28:11,400 --> 00:28:14,000 Speaker 1: from our wherever we were, and if we're only hearing 486 00:28:14,400 --> 00:28:18,080 Speaker 1: the side of the driver or the victim or the whatever, 487 00:28:18,560 --> 00:28:22,480 Speaker 1: you get a distorted view. And when we start telling 488 00:28:22,560 --> 00:28:26,440 Speaker 1: those truths, then people start thinking in a different way 489 00:28:26,520 --> 00:28:29,879 Speaker 1: and maybe you have a different understanding of what went on. 490 00:28:30,200 --> 00:28:31,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think people like the most so focused on 491 00:28:32,040 --> 00:28:35,240 Speaker 3: who didn't help them and who didn't like Okay, well 492 00:28:35,280 --> 00:28:37,600 Speaker 3: they could have opened the door. But it's a hole 493 00:28:37,640 --> 00:28:40,120 Speaker 3: ass of people who have y you know, and like 494 00:28:40,160 --> 00:28:43,200 Speaker 3: you said, your family, you got to focused on like 495 00:28:43,360 --> 00:28:46,160 Speaker 3: how you got here instead of where you wanted to 496 00:28:46,200 --> 00:28:47,680 Speaker 3: get because this person. 497 00:28:47,360 --> 00:28:48,200 Speaker 1: Didn't put you there. 498 00:28:48,400 --> 00:28:53,600 Speaker 3: So that speaks to everything that especially the world of comedy. Now, yeah, 499 00:28:53,640 --> 00:28:55,920 Speaker 3: that we're in in all the trajectory and everything, but 500 00:28:56,600 --> 00:28:59,000 Speaker 3: I love the meaning you and I. 501 00:28:58,960 --> 00:28:59,680 Speaker 1: Know you got to go. 502 00:29:00,000 --> 00:29:01,560 Speaker 2: The last question, is there anything. 503 00:29:01,440 --> 00:29:05,000 Speaker 3: On your bucket list career like that you for your 504 00:29:05,000 --> 00:29:07,360 Speaker 3: career that you want to do that you haven't done yet. 505 00:29:07,560 --> 00:29:10,680 Speaker 1: I'm my one woman show, the Book of Marsha I 506 00:29:10,720 --> 00:29:14,600 Speaker 1: want to do as a as a one woman show 507 00:29:14,760 --> 00:29:17,600 Speaker 1: and have that be a special I'm working to make 508 00:29:17,680 --> 00:29:20,560 Speaker 1: that happen in the future. And then from there, I'm like, 509 00:29:20,760 --> 00:29:25,160 Speaker 1: I'm just grateful for every opportunity I've been blessed more 510 00:29:25,200 --> 00:29:30,320 Speaker 1: than I have always appreciate it. You know, when you're 511 00:29:30,320 --> 00:29:32,440 Speaker 1: in the struggle and trying to make it, you think 512 00:29:32,720 --> 00:29:35,920 Speaker 1: nothing's happening, But when you look back on it, it's like, dang, 513 00:29:36,600 --> 00:29:41,240 Speaker 1: I was doing a lot right. So I just want 514 00:29:41,280 --> 00:29:43,080 Speaker 1: to keep on going. You know, I don't want to 515 00:29:43,120 --> 00:29:48,680 Speaker 1: grow old gracefully. I want to grow badassidly and just 516 00:29:48,880 --> 00:29:51,920 Speaker 1: that's right. That's right, kick it, you know, hick the 517 00:29:51,960 --> 00:29:54,479 Speaker 1: door in and keep on living until I hate live 518 00:29:54,600 --> 00:29:54,960 Speaker 1: no more. 519 00:29:55,000 --> 00:29:57,360 Speaker 2: That's right, Ms Warfield. It was a pleasure. We could 520 00:29:57,360 --> 00:29:58,840 Speaker 2: sit here and talk to you for hours. Thank you 521 00:29:58,840 --> 00:30:02,280 Speaker 2: for your wisdoms, Thank you for coming. It's Marshall Warfield. 522 00:30:02,280 --> 00:30:03,080 Speaker 2: It's the Breakfast Club. 523 00:30:03,680 --> 00:30:06,920 Speaker 1: Wake that hands up, hear in the morning. Breakfast Club.