1 00:00:01,000 --> 00:00:06,200 Speaker 1: Bold reverence and occasionally random the Sunday Hang with Clay 2 00:00:06,200 --> 00:00:09,920 Speaker 1: and Buck podcast, and it starts now, you. 3 00:00:09,880 --> 00:00:13,480 Speaker 2: Know, it's been a pretty heavy week and things are 4 00:00:13,480 --> 00:00:16,599 Speaker 2: getting a little tense out there with the news cycle 5 00:00:16,760 --> 00:00:21,159 Speaker 2: so focused on politics, and you know, Kamala wins at 6 00:00:21,200 --> 00:00:23,600 Speaker 2: maybe the end of the republic and the greatest experiment 7 00:00:23,680 --> 00:00:26,680 Speaker 2: in human freedom in history. But you know what I mean, like, 8 00:00:26,720 --> 00:00:28,960 Speaker 2: we're gonna keep fighting and we're gonna keep our heads high. 9 00:00:28,960 --> 00:00:31,639 Speaker 2: We're gonna, we're gonna we're gonna stay positive no matter 10 00:00:31,680 --> 00:00:33,400 Speaker 2: what I do think Trump's gonna win. But put that 11 00:00:33,440 --> 00:00:35,920 Speaker 2: aside for a second, put aside the partisan stuff for 12 00:00:35,960 --> 00:00:39,320 Speaker 2: a second year. To send you off into the weekend 13 00:00:39,360 --> 00:00:43,120 Speaker 2: with some positive vibes. As the gen Z would say, 14 00:00:43,600 --> 00:00:46,640 Speaker 2: Actor Kirk Cameron is with us now. He's here to 15 00:00:46,760 --> 00:00:49,520 Speaker 2: uplift us, inspire us. He's got a new book, Born 16 00:00:49,600 --> 00:00:54,960 Speaker 2: to Be Brave, How to be part of America's spiritual comeback. Kirk, 17 00:00:55,080 --> 00:00:58,000 Speaker 2: take it away, man, make everybody feel like it's all 18 00:00:58,040 --> 00:00:58,960 Speaker 2: gonna be all right. 19 00:00:59,120 --> 00:01:00,880 Speaker 3: Sir, What a boy. 20 00:01:01,040 --> 00:01:03,160 Speaker 4: I'm I'm sorry, glad, I'm glad I came in right now. 21 00:01:03,280 --> 00:01:05,880 Speaker 4: It actually is the most exciting time I can think 22 00:01:05,880 --> 00:01:09,960 Speaker 4: of to be alive in the last hundred years. I mean, 23 00:01:10,160 --> 00:01:15,320 Speaker 4: the darkness is so it is so opaque that light 24 00:01:15,520 --> 00:01:18,399 Speaker 4: is so easy to see. All people have to do 25 00:01:18,480 --> 00:01:20,800 Speaker 4: is turn it on. And I'm telling you honestly and 26 00:01:20,800 --> 00:01:23,280 Speaker 4: truly with all of my heart. As I travel the 27 00:01:23,319 --> 00:01:26,600 Speaker 4: country and I'm reading books of virtue and character to 28 00:01:26,720 --> 00:01:30,600 Speaker 4: children at public libraries, contra drag queens, story hours and 29 00:01:30,640 --> 00:01:35,360 Speaker 4: political corruption and economic collapse and moral sewage, I'm finding 30 00:01:35,840 --> 00:01:38,880 Speaker 4: thousands and thousands of parents and grandparents and kids coming 31 00:01:38,920 --> 00:01:40,319 Speaker 4: out of the woodwork to be a part of a 32 00:01:40,360 --> 00:01:45,360 Speaker 4: movement that will amplify light and light some brush fires 33 00:01:45,360 --> 00:01:49,480 Speaker 4: of freedom and virtue and fan them to spread them 34 00:01:49,920 --> 00:01:52,960 Speaker 4: like wildfire across the country. People are waking up. I 35 00:01:52,960 --> 00:01:56,040 Speaker 4: feel the rumblings of a great awakening, and I can't 36 00:01:56,120 --> 00:01:58,040 Speaker 4: wait to see what's going to happen over the next 37 00:01:58,080 --> 00:01:58,880 Speaker 4: couple of years. 38 00:01:59,200 --> 00:02:00,960 Speaker 3: I love the husiasm, Kirk. 39 00:02:01,040 --> 00:02:03,720 Speaker 4: I just saw it, not pie in the sky by 40 00:02:03,800 --> 00:02:07,760 Speaker 4: and by optimism. This is steak on the plate, reality 41 00:02:07,800 --> 00:02:09,880 Speaker 4: that I see and that I believe with all of 42 00:02:09,919 --> 00:02:10,320 Speaker 4: my heart. 43 00:02:10,960 --> 00:02:13,919 Speaker 3: Yeah, Clay speaking a steak on the plate, But it wasn't. 44 00:02:14,720 --> 00:02:17,520 Speaker 2: I was just wanting you No, I know, I've just 45 00:02:17,560 --> 00:02:20,280 Speaker 2: got to buy clay expensive steak soon in like a week. 46 00:02:20,360 --> 00:02:21,640 Speaker 5: That's what that would make. 47 00:02:21,680 --> 00:02:24,120 Speaker 3: The board decision that he thought Joe Biden was going 48 00:02:24,160 --> 00:02:25,760 Speaker 3: to stay in the race, and I said, of course not, 49 00:02:25,919 --> 00:02:28,120 Speaker 3: He's going to drop out. But Kirk, I saw you. 50 00:02:29,320 --> 00:02:32,440 Speaker 3: What night was it? Monday night at the Ami Racist 51 00:02:32,480 --> 00:02:36,239 Speaker 3: premiere for Matt Walsh's new film. And you have now 52 00:02:36,280 --> 00:02:39,040 Speaker 3: moved to my hometown of Nashville. Welcome, It's all you 53 00:02:39,120 --> 00:02:41,240 Speaker 3: had to add New Tennesseeans. But I want to also 54 00:02:41,320 --> 00:02:45,200 Speaker 3: congratulate you. You have six kids of your own, but 55 00:02:45,400 --> 00:02:49,280 Speaker 3: you just became a grandfather. Yes, what is the experience 56 00:02:49,400 --> 00:02:51,520 Speaker 3: like you obviously have had a bunch of kids already. 57 00:02:51,720 --> 00:02:54,080 Speaker 4: What does it feel like to be a grandfather. It's thrilling, 58 00:02:54,320 --> 00:02:56,680 Speaker 4: it's exciting. It's it's an exciting experience to have kids. 59 00:02:56,760 --> 00:02:58,480 Speaker 4: Now when you when you have a grandfather, it's it's 60 00:02:58,480 --> 00:03:01,200 Speaker 4: definitely next level. I've heard that my whole life, and 61 00:03:01,320 --> 00:03:04,200 Speaker 4: now I'm experiencing it. I mean, she's got cheeks for weeks. 62 00:03:04,480 --> 00:03:07,359 Speaker 4: She's already a Bills fan, She's part of the mafia. 63 00:03:07,720 --> 00:03:09,960 Speaker 4: She was stressed out before the game. The other day 64 00:03:10,240 --> 00:03:12,800 Speaker 4: and she just crashed when the whole thing was done. 65 00:03:12,919 --> 00:03:15,639 Speaker 4: We are loving being grandparents. My wife and I are 66 00:03:15,800 --> 00:03:18,400 Speaker 4: just just over the moon. 67 00:03:20,240 --> 00:03:24,160 Speaker 3: It is super cool and welcome. Like I said to Nashville, 68 00:03:24,520 --> 00:03:27,480 Speaker 3: tell us about this book. So you have written a 69 00:03:27,480 --> 00:03:29,919 Speaker 3: bunch of children's books now for people out there who 70 00:03:30,240 --> 00:03:34,840 Speaker 3: have been grew up basically watching you. Now you've gone 71 00:03:34,880 --> 00:03:38,920 Speaker 3: from I would say teen idol on Growing Pains to 72 00:03:39,080 --> 00:03:42,720 Speaker 3: now a grandpa. What has that trajectory of your life 73 00:03:42,800 --> 00:03:46,600 Speaker 3: been like and at what point did you decide, Hey, 74 00:03:46,720 --> 00:03:49,440 Speaker 3: I really want to kind of focus on telling stories 75 00:03:49,440 --> 00:03:50,360 Speaker 3: to younger kids. 76 00:03:50,400 --> 00:03:52,400 Speaker 4: Well, I'm so, I'm so excited that I made it 77 00:03:52,480 --> 00:03:56,440 Speaker 4: this far. I'm now a grandfather. You know, I didn't 78 00:03:56,480 --> 00:03:58,800 Speaker 4: pass away in my youth like a like a like 79 00:03:58,840 --> 00:04:01,840 Speaker 4: a teenage actor who just got so strung out on 80 00:04:01,960 --> 00:04:03,480 Speaker 4: which happens. 81 00:04:03,480 --> 00:04:06,440 Speaker 3: Honestly, there's not very many that grow up, have six kids, 82 00:04:06,480 --> 00:04:08,760 Speaker 3: have one wife and become a grandkid who were a 83 00:04:08,800 --> 00:04:10,440 Speaker 3: grandfather who were pop stars. 84 00:04:10,440 --> 00:04:12,720 Speaker 4: So I mean that is a rare pathway. That is 85 00:04:12,720 --> 00:04:16,040 Speaker 4: a blessing that I'm so grateful for. And yes, I 86 00:04:16,080 --> 00:04:18,360 Speaker 4: wrote this book that you're speaking of. It's called Born 87 00:04:18,440 --> 00:04:21,600 Speaker 4: to Be brave. I have been spending the last couple 88 00:04:21,640 --> 00:04:24,600 Speaker 4: of years writing children's books and reading them to three 89 00:04:24,600 --> 00:04:26,919 Speaker 4: to five year olds to teach them things like the 90 00:04:26,960 --> 00:04:32,160 Speaker 4: fruit of the spirit, love, kindness, faithfulness, self control, and humility, 91 00:04:32,640 --> 00:04:37,000 Speaker 4: contra drag queens, teaching them about pride and self empowerment 92 00:04:37,120 --> 00:04:42,040 Speaker 4: rather than self control and finding myself inundated by parents 93 00:04:42,040 --> 00:04:45,479 Speaker 4: who say that they feel silenced and marginalized, afraid, they're 94 00:04:45,520 --> 00:04:47,520 Speaker 4: not sure what to do, and then they throw some 95 00:04:47,560 --> 00:04:50,000 Speaker 4: of them throw a religious element into it and say, 96 00:04:50,200 --> 00:04:52,800 Speaker 4: but that's the way the Bible says it's supposed to be. 97 00:04:52,839 --> 00:04:54,960 Speaker 4: It's just gonna get worse and there's really nothing we 98 00:04:55,000 --> 00:04:57,120 Speaker 4: can do about it. And I go time out. No, 99 00:04:57,720 --> 00:05:01,719 Speaker 4: I think that's totally misplaced. That hopelessness is found nowhere 100 00:05:02,200 --> 00:05:04,919 Speaker 4: in the history of the Family of Faith, or the 101 00:05:04,960 --> 00:05:07,920 Speaker 4: scriptures or what I'm seeing right now. And I realized, 102 00:05:08,040 --> 00:05:10,320 Speaker 4: I need to put gas in the tank of the parents. 103 00:05:10,560 --> 00:05:12,840 Speaker 4: I need to put win in the sales of the grandparents, 104 00:05:13,200 --> 00:05:16,080 Speaker 4: the people who actually understand why this is the greatest 105 00:05:16,080 --> 00:05:18,400 Speaker 4: country in the world, so that they can have the 106 00:05:18,400 --> 00:05:24,400 Speaker 4: bravery encourage to get our kids to a place of 107 00:05:24,600 --> 00:05:27,479 Speaker 4: blessing and protection. And teach them the things that we 108 00:05:27,520 --> 00:05:28,880 Speaker 4: are losing in this country. 109 00:05:30,160 --> 00:05:34,520 Speaker 2: It's nice to hear a sense of optimism about how 110 00:05:34,760 --> 00:05:38,400 Speaker 2: the battle for spirituality or the spiritual battle is playing 111 00:05:38,400 --> 00:05:40,760 Speaker 2: out in this country, and that I guess the good 112 00:05:40,800 --> 00:05:44,480 Speaker 2: guys and gals can win here. I mean you're mentioning obviously, 113 00:05:44,560 --> 00:05:48,440 Speaker 2: the book, I assume is a bit of a template 114 00:05:48,640 --> 00:05:52,280 Speaker 2: or some encouragement perhaps you know, coaching from the sidelines 115 00:05:52,320 --> 00:05:55,680 Speaker 2: here for how people can get more involved in these 116 00:05:55,720 --> 00:05:59,279 Speaker 2: battles themselves, or just give them a framework, a template 117 00:05:59,320 --> 00:05:59,920 Speaker 2: for doing it. 118 00:06:00,520 --> 00:06:01,640 Speaker 5: The book is Born to be. 119 00:06:01,600 --> 00:06:06,000 Speaker 2: Brave, how to be a part of America's spiritual comeback. 120 00:06:06,560 --> 00:06:09,720 Speaker 2: And so, as a new grandparent, I got to say, 121 00:06:09,720 --> 00:06:11,960 Speaker 2: you know, you've got a lot of grandparents listening right now. 122 00:06:12,480 --> 00:06:15,200 Speaker 2: I feel like the older I get, the more wisdom 123 00:06:15,240 --> 00:06:17,440 Speaker 2: I feel comes from the older generation in a lot 124 00:06:17,480 --> 00:06:19,720 Speaker 2: of ways. I'll be honest with you. How does that 125 00:06:19,760 --> 00:06:22,240 Speaker 2: play into the spiritual comeback? 126 00:06:22,760 --> 00:06:26,799 Speaker 4: Yeah, many grandparents feel like, well, I did my time, 127 00:06:26,880 --> 00:06:30,360 Speaker 4: and I've had my opportunity to make a difference. No, no, no, no, 128 00:06:30,400 --> 00:06:33,960 Speaker 4: you're just getting started. If you are somebody who loves God, 129 00:06:34,000 --> 00:06:36,920 Speaker 4: loves your family, and loves this country. Listen, don't get 130 00:06:36,920 --> 00:06:41,279 Speaker 4: bitter when you watch the news. Get better. Don't be 131 00:06:41,320 --> 00:06:44,679 Speaker 4: a whiner, be a winner, don't complain about the culture. 132 00:06:44,880 --> 00:06:48,039 Speaker 4: Create the culture you have, the time, you have, the 133 00:06:48,080 --> 00:06:52,200 Speaker 4: opportunity with the next generation. They need you pour into them. 134 00:06:52,480 --> 00:06:54,680 Speaker 4: That's what I need to be doing. Let me ask 135 00:06:54,720 --> 00:06:59,719 Speaker 4: you this question, Clay, what if the current cultural setback 136 00:07:00,360 --> 00:07:04,920 Speaker 4: is really a divine setup for a spiritual comeback led 137 00:07:04,960 --> 00:07:08,440 Speaker 4: by the family of faith. What if the political corruption, 138 00:07:08,600 --> 00:07:13,880 Speaker 4: the moral collapse, the economic decline, the spiritual apathy is 139 00:07:13,960 --> 00:07:17,800 Speaker 4: really a wake up call for those of us who 140 00:07:17,880 --> 00:07:20,440 Speaker 4: know exactly what's going on. We've been red pilled. We 141 00:07:20,520 --> 00:07:25,400 Speaker 4: see what's happening. The promises of the enemy are turning 142 00:07:25,400 --> 00:07:29,560 Speaker 4: out to be fake. And now it's our time to 143 00:07:29,640 --> 00:07:31,840 Speaker 4: red pill everybody else. But we've got to do it 144 00:07:31,880 --> 00:07:34,200 Speaker 4: the right way. The only way out of the matrix, 145 00:07:34,400 --> 00:07:36,440 Speaker 4: first of all, is to start with a heart of 146 00:07:36,520 --> 00:07:38,960 Speaker 4: humility and love. And then we've got to speak the 147 00:07:39,000 --> 00:07:43,480 Speaker 4: truth with boldness and with courage, starting with myself, my family, 148 00:07:43,680 --> 00:07:46,120 Speaker 4: and then work our way out through our communities, to 149 00:07:46,200 --> 00:07:48,239 Speaker 4: the state and to the local level. And I believe 150 00:07:48,280 --> 00:07:52,680 Speaker 4: that if we lean into this bravery and courage that 151 00:07:52,760 --> 00:07:57,200 Speaker 4: God has given his faithful followers. We can and we 152 00:07:57,320 --> 00:08:03,560 Speaker 4: will realign the nation with biblical, constitutional American values. It's 153 00:08:03,600 --> 00:08:07,800 Speaker 4: happened before it can happen again. It's called a great awakening, 154 00:08:08,320 --> 00:08:08,880 Speaker 4: and we're. 155 00:08:08,760 --> 00:08:12,200 Speaker 3: Due for one. That was really well said Kirk. And 156 00:08:12,600 --> 00:08:15,800 Speaker 3: given your background in Hollywood, I have a question for you. 157 00:08:15,920 --> 00:08:18,800 Speaker 3: I just mentioned we saw the Ami Racist premier Matt 158 00:08:18,800 --> 00:08:20,000 Speaker 3: Walsh's documentary. 159 00:08:20,120 --> 00:08:24,000 Speaker 4: Such a great movie should be required viewing for every American. 160 00:08:24,600 --> 00:08:26,520 Speaker 3: I thought it was fantastic. He's going to be on 161 00:08:26,640 --> 00:08:29,280 Speaker 3: with us Monday. But it seems to me, and I'm 162 00:08:29,280 --> 00:08:33,080 Speaker 3: curious if you feel this based on your background, that 163 00:08:33,280 --> 00:08:36,280 Speaker 3: even in Hollywood. I was reading in the Wall Street 164 00:08:36,360 --> 00:08:41,320 Speaker 3: Journal magazine about they're making an HBO. I think it 165 00:08:41,440 --> 00:08:46,200 Speaker 3: was series about the biblical David. There certainly has been 166 00:08:46,559 --> 00:08:49,720 Speaker 3: a lot, it feels to me, whether it's the Sound 167 00:08:49,760 --> 00:08:55,360 Speaker 3: of Freedom, whether it's so many different movies out there, 168 00:08:55,520 --> 00:08:58,520 Speaker 3: ordinary angels that came out. I believe the Irwin brothers 169 00:08:58,520 --> 00:09:01,000 Speaker 3: are involved in those films, who are also located to 170 00:09:01,040 --> 00:09:04,319 Speaker 3: a large degree here in Nashville. Do you sense that 171 00:09:04,880 --> 00:09:09,320 Speaker 3: Hollywood is recognizing that there is a great cultural hunger 172 00:09:09,360 --> 00:09:12,560 Speaker 3: for stories such as these, and that that is allowing 173 00:09:12,600 --> 00:09:18,280 Speaker 3: people to maybe connect their emptiness inside with recognizing where 174 00:09:18,280 --> 00:09:20,400 Speaker 3: it's coming from. Am I crazy? Or is that starting 175 00:09:20,440 --> 00:09:24,440 Speaker 3: to happen? Even from the cultural perspective, From what you see. 176 00:09:24,360 --> 00:09:26,679 Speaker 4: I feel exactly what you're feeling, and I see what 177 00:09:26,760 --> 00:09:29,280 Speaker 4: you see, And what I believe is that Hollywood has 178 00:09:29,280 --> 00:09:32,439 Speaker 4: been ripping off the Biblical narrative since the very beginning. 179 00:09:32,800 --> 00:09:38,520 Speaker 4: They have wisely recognized the stories that resonate most violently 180 00:09:38,600 --> 00:09:42,200 Speaker 4: with the human hearts in a good way. Stories of redemption, 181 00:09:42,520 --> 00:09:45,600 Speaker 4: the hero's journey. You see it in every Marvel movie, 182 00:09:45,880 --> 00:09:51,440 Speaker 4: in every Batman movie. You see it everywhere. And it's 183 00:09:51,480 --> 00:09:55,520 Speaker 4: the against all odds, when all hope seems lost. Story 184 00:09:55,920 --> 00:10:02,040 Speaker 4: when the underdog undergoes a transformation and comes back from 185 00:10:02,120 --> 00:10:06,120 Speaker 4: the impossible to win the day. And it's in Lord 186 00:10:06,120 --> 00:10:09,959 Speaker 4: of the Rings, it's in Narnia, it's everywhere. And that's 187 00:10:10,000 --> 00:10:11,760 Speaker 4: why I try to make the movies that I make, 188 00:10:12,080 --> 00:10:15,040 Speaker 4: the books that I write, and the cartoons and children's 189 00:10:15,040 --> 00:10:19,160 Speaker 4: programs that I'm producing. So that's why people need to 190 00:10:19,200 --> 00:10:21,680 Speaker 4: go see movies like that. The movies you just talked about, 191 00:10:21,840 --> 00:10:25,560 Speaker 4: Sound of Freedom or the Kendricks brothers. New movie that's 192 00:10:25,600 --> 00:10:29,520 Speaker 4: out called The Forge, about men mentoring and discipling the 193 00:10:29,559 --> 00:10:31,560 Speaker 4: younger generation of men to give them a sense of 194 00:10:31,559 --> 00:10:34,680 Speaker 4: identity and purpose and destiny. And that's why I want 195 00:10:34,679 --> 00:10:37,360 Speaker 4: people to get this book. I wrote Born to Be Brave, 196 00:10:37,880 --> 00:10:42,600 Speaker 4: because when we support projects like this, when we listen 197 00:10:42,640 --> 00:10:46,040 Speaker 4: to radio stations like yours, what does that do? Not 198 00:10:46,160 --> 00:10:48,959 Speaker 4: only does it equip us and educate us and open 199 00:10:49,040 --> 00:10:51,880 Speaker 4: our eyes so we can do something, it then sends 200 00:10:51,920 --> 00:10:56,160 Speaker 4: massive financial shock waves to the industry and blows open 201 00:10:56,240 --> 00:10:58,600 Speaker 4: the doors so we have more radio stations like yours. 202 00:10:58,800 --> 00:11:00,960 Speaker 4: We have more books like Born to Be Brave, We 203 00:11:01,040 --> 00:11:04,640 Speaker 4: have more movies like The Passion of the Christ or 204 00:11:04,720 --> 00:11:08,160 Speaker 4: Sound of Freedom or or or whatever it is to 205 00:11:08,320 --> 00:11:11,720 Speaker 4: combat the evil and begin to turn the tide of 206 00:11:11,800 --> 00:11:17,200 Speaker 4: the culture. Remember, a tiny, vocal minority group with ridiculous 207 00:11:17,280 --> 00:11:22,000 Speaker 4: ideas that are fake and lies have managed to transform 208 00:11:22,440 --> 00:11:26,079 Speaker 4: what is normal today. Think of what we could do 209 00:11:26,320 --> 00:11:29,760 Speaker 4: if we got a plan, work together and our cause 210 00:11:29,880 --> 00:11:38,839 Speaker 4: was just I feel everything, So can I ask? Here's 211 00:11:38,840 --> 00:11:40,760 Speaker 4: what I'd love more than anything. This is the first 212 00:11:40,760 --> 00:11:44,439 Speaker 4: book that I've ever written for adults, and I want 213 00:11:44,559 --> 00:11:46,600 Speaker 4: more than anything to write more books like this, and 214 00:11:46,640 --> 00:11:48,560 Speaker 4: I want all of my friends, who are better authors 215 00:11:48,600 --> 00:11:50,600 Speaker 4: than I am, to write more books like this. And 216 00:11:50,640 --> 00:11:53,360 Speaker 4: the way that we can do that is if this 217 00:11:53,440 --> 00:11:55,840 Speaker 4: makes it to whatever the numbers are, to put me 218 00:11:55,880 --> 00:11:58,320 Speaker 4: on the New York Times bestseller list. That sends a 219 00:11:58,360 --> 00:12:01,880 Speaker 4: message to the publishing endo that America wants more about 220 00:12:01,920 --> 00:12:06,679 Speaker 4: about a spiritual comeback in America, a reviving of American 221 00:12:06,920 --> 00:12:09,880 Speaker 4: first principles that leads to our blessing and protection. And 222 00:12:09,920 --> 00:12:12,240 Speaker 4: then we can flood the market with that kind of stuff. 223 00:12:12,920 --> 00:12:14,320 Speaker 4: I don't want it to be fringe. I want it 224 00:12:14,360 --> 00:12:18,240 Speaker 4: to be mainstream. Spiritual comeback plus capitalism. You're in the 225 00:12:18,280 --> 00:12:19,400 Speaker 4: right place there you go. 226 00:12:19,480 --> 00:12:19,800 Speaker 6: Thank you. 227 00:12:20,160 --> 00:12:23,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, good cameraon Everybody, Born to be Brave. How to 228 00:12:23,240 --> 00:12:25,480 Speaker 2: be a part of America's spiritual comeback? Check out your 229 00:12:25,480 --> 00:12:26,040 Speaker 2: copy of it. 230 00:12:26,160 --> 00:12:28,520 Speaker 5: Kirk. Always great to have you man. We'll see you soon. 231 00:12:28,600 --> 00:12:30,920 Speaker 4: Appreciate both of you guys. Thanks so much, Thank you, 232 00:12:31,280 --> 00:12:31,640 Speaker 4: Thank you. 233 00:12:32,360 --> 00:12:34,640 Speaker 1: Sunday hang with Clay and Buck. 234 00:12:36,720 --> 00:12:44,320 Speaker 3: Sports music movies. It appears to me that there is 235 00:12:44,640 --> 00:12:49,640 Speaker 3: a groundswell of desire which I think could be so 236 00:12:49,880 --> 00:12:55,080 Speaker 3: important to the discourse in this country for America to 237 00:12:55,200 --> 00:12:59,880 Speaker 3: go back to the era that Buck, even though he's 238 00:13:00,200 --> 00:13:04,120 Speaker 3: younger than me and I grew up in and that 239 00:13:04,160 --> 00:13:07,760 Speaker 3: many of you out there around our ages also grew 240 00:13:07,840 --> 00:13:13,000 Speaker 3: up in the nineteen eighties and the nineteen nineties. Many 241 00:13:13,080 --> 00:13:16,199 Speaker 3: of you out there are nostalgic in many ways for 242 00:13:16,320 --> 00:13:20,400 Speaker 3: those eras, even the early parts of the two thousands, 243 00:13:20,800 --> 00:13:25,280 Speaker 3: but in particular the eighties and the nineties, because we 244 00:13:25,400 --> 00:13:29,679 Speaker 3: had a crazy era. Then people might have disagreed politically, 245 00:13:30,400 --> 00:13:34,280 Speaker 3: but we didn't decide when somebody voted different than us 246 00:13:34,679 --> 00:13:38,920 Speaker 3: that they were despicable, as MSNBC has been calling Trump 247 00:13:39,000 --> 00:13:42,600 Speaker 3: supporters today or last night. We played that audio for 248 00:13:42,720 --> 00:13:46,240 Speaker 3: you earlier, and I've been arguing for a long time 249 00:13:46,320 --> 00:13:51,720 Speaker 3: that really, the i would say celebrity athlete who characterized 250 00:13:51,760 --> 00:13:56,880 Speaker 3: that era better than anyone was Michael Jordan. Michael Jordan, 251 00:13:57,000 --> 00:14:01,400 Speaker 3: to this day is still the most popular athlete in America. 252 00:14:02,600 --> 00:14:05,240 Speaker 3: I'm My last book before this current one was called 253 00:14:05,320 --> 00:14:09,040 Speaker 3: Republicans by Sneakers. Two crazy stat for you. At the 254 00:14:09,080 --> 00:14:14,000 Speaker 3: time I wrote that book, Michael Jordan's Air Jordans Sneakers 255 00:14:14,040 --> 00:14:19,920 Speaker 3: still sold more every year than every current NBA player combined, 256 00:14:20,640 --> 00:14:24,360 Speaker 3: Lebron Steph Curry, You Roll them all up together, they 257 00:14:24,480 --> 00:14:27,880 Speaker 3: sold less than Michael Jordan's air Jordans were selling. I 258 00:14:27,880 --> 00:14:31,080 Speaker 3: think that's still close to true even today. Why was 259 00:14:31,120 --> 00:14:36,240 Speaker 3: that because Michael Jordan's hallmark was his excellence, and he 260 00:14:36,400 --> 00:14:44,200 Speaker 3: wanted everyone to celebrate his excellence. White, Black, Asian, Hispanic, gay, Strait, Republican, Democrat, Independent. 261 00:14:44,560 --> 00:14:48,520 Speaker 3: In fact, my book was called Republicans by Sneakers two 262 00:14:49,200 --> 00:14:51,920 Speaker 3: because that was a quote from Michael Jordan in that 263 00:14:52,040 --> 00:14:56,040 Speaker 3: era when he was asked why didn't get political? Then 264 00:14:56,560 --> 00:15:01,160 Speaker 3: suddenly that all changed. In the Trump era, athletes decided 265 00:15:01,200 --> 00:15:03,200 Speaker 3: they had to use their platforms, and they had to 266 00:15:03,200 --> 00:15:05,040 Speaker 3: be super partisan, and they had to come out in 267 00:15:05,080 --> 00:15:07,520 Speaker 3: favor of Hillary Clinton, they had to come out in 268 00:15:07,560 --> 00:15:11,680 Speaker 3: favor of Joe Biden. It's dying down now. Buck In 269 00:15:11,760 --> 00:15:15,640 Speaker 3: twenty twenty four and yesterday, there were three different clips 270 00:15:15,680 --> 00:15:19,120 Speaker 3: that I think tell an interesting story. First, let's start 271 00:15:19,160 --> 00:15:23,080 Speaker 3: with Patrick Mahomes, who I would argue is the single 272 00:15:23,280 --> 00:15:28,160 Speaker 3: most famous male athlete in America today, quarterback for the 273 00:15:28,240 --> 00:15:32,000 Speaker 3: Kansas City Chiefs. His wife Brittany has suggested, based on 274 00:15:32,080 --> 00:15:35,160 Speaker 3: things she's liked, that she is a Trump supporter. Trump 275 00:15:35,200 --> 00:15:38,440 Speaker 3: has been complementary of Patrick Mahomes and Brittany. He was 276 00:15:38,480 --> 00:15:40,880 Speaker 3: asked about it at a press conference yesterday. This is 277 00:15:40,880 --> 00:15:42,600 Speaker 3: what he said for President Trump. 278 00:15:42,440 --> 00:15:45,320 Speaker 7: Ro student family against the Fox News in relations to 279 00:15:45,360 --> 00:15:45,960 Speaker 7: this campaign. 280 00:15:45,960 --> 00:15:47,880 Speaker 5: I just wonder what your reaction is to seeing that. 281 00:15:48,080 --> 00:15:51,200 Speaker 7: Yeah, I think I've always said I don't want I 282 00:15:51,240 --> 00:15:53,680 Speaker 7: don't want my place in my platform to be used 283 00:15:53,720 --> 00:15:56,840 Speaker 7: to endorse a candidate or do whatever each Either way, 284 00:15:57,120 --> 00:15:59,120 Speaker 7: I think my place is to inform people to get 285 00:15:59,160 --> 00:16:01,640 Speaker 7: registered to vote, is to inform people to do their 286 00:16:01,640 --> 00:16:04,400 Speaker 7: own research and then make their best decision for them 287 00:16:04,440 --> 00:16:07,080 Speaker 7: and their family. And so I think that's every time 288 00:16:07,120 --> 00:16:09,640 Speaker 7: I'm on this stage and I get asked these questions, 289 00:16:09,680 --> 00:16:11,160 Speaker 7: I'm going to refer back to that because I think 290 00:16:11,200 --> 00:16:13,280 Speaker 7: that's what makes America so great. 291 00:16:13,960 --> 00:16:16,320 Speaker 3: Pretty great answer in many ways. 292 00:16:16,560 --> 00:16:19,800 Speaker 2: You know what's funny about this, Clay is a lot 293 00:16:19,840 --> 00:16:22,040 Speaker 2: of people hear that people like you and me and 294 00:16:22,040 --> 00:16:24,520 Speaker 2: others will listen and say, I wish pretty much every 295 00:16:24,560 --> 00:16:27,760 Speaker 2: athlete would just do this. Although than athletes, look, well, 296 00:16:27,800 --> 00:16:30,160 Speaker 2: we're not allowed to have, you know, opinions on politics, 297 00:16:30,240 --> 00:16:35,280 Speaker 2: but yeah, more and Hollywood actors, you know, famous people 298 00:16:35,280 --> 00:16:37,120 Speaker 2: of all kinds. I wish they would just stop with 299 00:16:37,160 --> 00:16:41,960 Speaker 2: the But because he's not willing to smugly lecture everybody 300 00:16:42,000 --> 00:16:45,840 Speaker 2: on politics when we just want to celebrate athletic greatness, 301 00:16:46,160 --> 00:16:47,600 Speaker 2: people are gonna assume he's Republican. 302 00:16:47,720 --> 00:16:49,120 Speaker 5: You know that, right? I mean this is now. 303 00:16:49,320 --> 00:16:51,760 Speaker 2: The only people that are like, I don't want to 304 00:16:51,800 --> 00:16:55,400 Speaker 2: be annoying about my politics, are Republican. If you're a 305 00:16:55,440 --> 00:16:59,920 Speaker 2: big Kamala voter, you're telling everybody you gotta vote for Kamala. 306 00:17:00,240 --> 00:17:02,920 Speaker 3: What I said, and I'll stand by it. Just to 307 00:17:02,920 --> 00:17:08,000 Speaker 3: be fair. If your wife is voting Trump, what are 308 00:17:08,040 --> 00:17:11,480 Speaker 3: the odds that the man isn't? How many, honest question, 309 00:17:11,640 --> 00:17:13,919 Speaker 3: how many married couples out there? I think there are 310 00:17:13,960 --> 00:17:16,280 Speaker 3: a lot that split, right, we have a gender divide. 311 00:17:16,280 --> 00:17:19,040 Speaker 3: I think there's lots of men who would vote Trump. 312 00:17:19,520 --> 00:17:21,679 Speaker 3: I think there's women who would vote Kamala. I think 313 00:17:21,720 --> 00:17:25,040 Speaker 3: there's lots of those households. I think there are many 314 00:17:25,080 --> 00:17:29,719 Speaker 3: fewer households where wife votes Trump and husband votes Kamala. 315 00:17:29,760 --> 00:17:32,239 Speaker 3: Would you agree with that? That is a like a 316 00:17:32,440 --> 00:17:35,760 Speaker 3: very like. There's lots where both do the same. My household, 317 00:17:35,760 --> 00:17:37,760 Speaker 3: we're gonna have double Trump voters. I think it's fair 318 00:17:37,840 --> 00:17:40,800 Speaker 3: to say buck your household you'll have double Trump voters. 319 00:17:41,359 --> 00:17:42,840 Speaker 5: Oh yeah, yeah. 320 00:17:43,440 --> 00:17:44,720 Speaker 3: Just so there's a lot. 321 00:17:44,640 --> 00:17:47,200 Speaker 2: There, like, what was that criticism of Trump you had. 322 00:17:47,240 --> 00:17:49,320 Speaker 2: Let's let's tighten that up a little bit, you know. 323 00:17:49,640 --> 00:17:54,359 Speaker 3: Okay, So there's lots of households out there that are 324 00:17:54,359 --> 00:17:57,240 Speaker 3: going to double Kamala vote. I do not believe there's 325 00:17:57,359 --> 00:18:00,960 Speaker 3: very many households where woman is a Trump's supporter and 326 00:18:01,119 --> 00:18:03,720 Speaker 3: husband is a Kamala supporter. So I think you're right there, 327 00:18:03,720 --> 00:18:05,800 Speaker 3: but I do think it's significant. He went on to say, 328 00:18:06,119 --> 00:18:08,399 Speaker 3: I don't judge people by their politics. I can get 329 00:18:08,440 --> 00:18:10,840 Speaker 3: along with anybody because they kind of let him on. 330 00:18:10,880 --> 00:18:15,359 Speaker 3: Because Taylor Swift has decided that she's going to endorse Kamala, okay. 331 00:18:15,640 --> 00:18:20,639 Speaker 3: Caitlyn Clark was also asked the same question yesterday. I 332 00:18:20,680 --> 00:18:23,959 Speaker 3: would submit to you that Caitlyn Clark is probably the 333 00:18:24,040 --> 00:18:26,960 Speaker 3: most famous female athlete in America right now, here's what 334 00:18:27,000 --> 00:18:27,480 Speaker 3: she said. 335 00:18:27,840 --> 00:18:31,320 Speaker 8: You liked an Instagram post last night from Taylor Swift 336 00:18:31,320 --> 00:18:34,240 Speaker 8: that got a lot of attention, and I'm just curious 337 00:18:34,320 --> 00:18:37,960 Speaker 8: if you could tell us what that post meant to 338 00:18:38,040 --> 00:18:42,080 Speaker 8: you and if you are in fact potentially going to 339 00:18:42,160 --> 00:18:43,120 Speaker 8: endorse Kamala. 340 00:18:43,119 --> 00:18:45,960 Speaker 9: Harris Iday for myself. As you know, I have this 341 00:18:46,040 --> 00:18:48,679 Speaker 9: amazing platform. So I think the biggest thing when do 342 00:18:48,720 --> 00:18:51,240 Speaker 9: you just encourage people to register to vote? 343 00:18:51,359 --> 00:18:52,880 Speaker 8: I think for myself is the second time I can. 344 00:18:52,800 --> 00:18:54,600 Speaker 9: Vote in an election at age twenty two. I had a 345 00:18:54,680 --> 00:18:57,520 Speaker 9: vote when I was eighteen, So I think do that. 346 00:18:57,520 --> 00:18:59,480 Speaker 9: That's the biggest thing I can do with the platform 347 00:18:59,520 --> 00:19:01,840 Speaker 9: that I have. And that's the same thing caredate and. 348 00:19:01,760 --> 00:19:04,800 Speaker 10: I think, continue to educate yourself the candidates that we have, 349 00:19:04,960 --> 00:19:07,720 Speaker 10: the policies that they're supporting. I think that's the biggest 350 00:19:07,720 --> 00:19:08,199 Speaker 10: thing you can do. 351 00:19:08,280 --> 00:19:10,560 Speaker 9: And that's what I would recommend to every single person 352 00:19:10,640 --> 00:19:12,400 Speaker 9: that has that opportunity in our country. 353 00:19:13,080 --> 00:19:14,520 Speaker 5: You know what, Okay, play yea. 354 00:19:14,800 --> 00:19:17,679 Speaker 2: It's you know, and obviously you follow sports professional sports 355 00:19:17,680 --> 00:19:19,879 Speaker 2: a lot more than I do. That's because that saying 356 00:19:20,200 --> 00:19:23,000 Speaker 2: I watch the Super Bowl and the US Open and 357 00:19:23,000 --> 00:19:26,920 Speaker 2: that's about it. But that's somebody who wants to build 358 00:19:26,920 --> 00:19:28,879 Speaker 2: a brand that's worth hundreds of millions of dollars is 359 00:19:28,920 --> 00:19:29,359 Speaker 2: what that is. 360 00:19:29,720 --> 00:19:30,439 Speaker 5: That's what that is. 361 00:19:31,000 --> 00:19:32,800 Speaker 2: That's somebody who's like, you know what, I don't want 362 00:19:32,800 --> 00:19:39,879 Speaker 2: to antagonize half of my prospective ticket shoe jersey. I 363 00:19:39,920 --> 00:19:43,040 Speaker 2: don't know you know, skincare product, whatever she's done that. 364 00:19:43,080 --> 00:19:46,840 Speaker 3: Is Michael Jordan's example, or Tiger Woods for that matter. Okay, 365 00:19:46,840 --> 00:19:49,000 Speaker 3: one more because I think this one is funny too. 366 00:19:49,280 --> 00:19:53,280 Speaker 3: Usher was on our favorite show, The View. Usher, for 367 00:19:53,320 --> 00:19:56,679 Speaker 3: those of you who don't know, prominent black musician Joy 368 00:19:56,760 --> 00:20:01,000 Speaker 3: Behar just went all in on Hey, don't you need 369 00:20:01,040 --> 00:20:04,160 Speaker 3: to endorse Kamala? Here's the answer, here's the. 370 00:20:04,160 --> 00:20:07,000 Speaker 11: Response in this emergency that we're in. I think that 371 00:20:07,200 --> 00:20:11,000 Speaker 11: whose artist has come out and speak for Kamala against 372 00:20:11,080 --> 00:20:14,040 Speaker 11: Donald Trump? Because he is an existential threat to the country. 373 00:20:14,200 --> 00:20:15,120 Speaker 11: What do you say to that? 374 00:20:15,200 --> 00:20:15,480 Speaker 7: You know what? 375 00:20:15,520 --> 00:20:17,760 Speaker 12: I don't get too deep into politics. I didn't get 376 00:20:17,760 --> 00:20:19,800 Speaker 12: a chance to watch the debate last night. I obviously 377 00:20:19,880 --> 00:20:23,879 Speaker 12: have been watching like everybody else. I think voting is 378 00:20:23,920 --> 00:20:27,479 Speaker 12: an individual choice, and I think that you're right. You 379 00:20:27,560 --> 00:20:30,119 Speaker 12: have to look at the reality of the country that 380 00:20:30,200 --> 00:20:32,399 Speaker 12: we are and the country that we want to be 381 00:20:32,840 --> 00:20:37,480 Speaker 12: and find the candidate that you feel both are who 382 00:20:37,520 --> 00:20:40,600 Speaker 12: fits the category of where we want to be, and 383 00:20:41,000 --> 00:20:45,680 Speaker 12: that's what you vote. Based off of who you highlight 384 00:20:45,800 --> 00:20:48,600 Speaker 12: and how you choose to highlight it on whatever platform 385 00:20:48,640 --> 00:20:50,040 Speaker 12: you have is your prerogative. 386 00:20:51,560 --> 00:20:56,520 Speaker 3: Look to me, Buck Mahomes, Caitlin Clark, and Usher Boom 387 00:20:56,520 --> 00:20:58,919 Speaker 3: Boom boom. Maybe they all have the same pr person, 388 00:20:59,600 --> 00:21:02,800 Speaker 3: but all three of them, especially Usher there when Joy 389 00:21:02,840 --> 00:21:05,960 Speaker 3: Behar is like trying to brate him on a super 390 00:21:06,040 --> 00:21:10,000 Speaker 3: left wing show to endorse Kamala and admit and hit 391 00:21:10,040 --> 00:21:12,600 Speaker 3: her opinion that Trump's a horrible human being. I think 392 00:21:12,640 --> 00:21:15,520 Speaker 3: that's a significant cultural shift that we're seeing. 393 00:21:16,160 --> 00:21:21,040 Speaker 2: Yes, and I think it's one. It's the business move 394 00:21:21,080 --> 00:21:24,719 Speaker 2: that we thought everybody was going to be making in 395 00:21:24,800 --> 00:21:25,920 Speaker 2: the public sphere. 396 00:21:25,680 --> 00:21:28,720 Speaker 5: Until really about what fifteen to now. 397 00:21:28,800 --> 00:21:30,920 Speaker 2: I mean their Hollywood actresses who've always been very vocal 398 00:21:30,920 --> 00:21:32,560 Speaker 2: about their politics. But I mean, if you were just 399 00:21:32,600 --> 00:21:37,280 Speaker 2: trying to maximize your brand's profitability, you tended not to 400 00:21:37,320 --> 00:21:41,080 Speaker 2: antagonize half the country. That changed, Yes, that changed, and 401 00:21:41,080 --> 00:21:43,160 Speaker 2: then you had people like Colin Kaepernick who were dragging 402 00:21:43,200 --> 00:21:46,480 Speaker 2: it in the other direction of Oh, it's worth so 403 00:21:46,600 --> 00:21:49,560 Speaker 2: much more to you to be woke and to squeeze 404 00:21:49,600 --> 00:21:52,280 Speaker 2: everything you can out of that. That spitting in the 405 00:21:52,320 --> 00:21:54,320 Speaker 2: face of half of your audience when they don't care 406 00:21:54,359 --> 00:21:57,199 Speaker 2: what you think about the following things, is that's a 407 00:21:57,200 --> 00:21:59,440 Speaker 2: trade off you should make. I do think the pendulum 408 00:21:59,520 --> 00:22:02,320 Speaker 2: has started swing back. You know, it's the bud light effect. 409 00:22:02,560 --> 00:22:06,760 Speaker 2: It's a number of what was the what's that store 410 00:22:06,920 --> 00:22:10,480 Speaker 2: target with all the sort of lgbt Q stuff. 411 00:22:10,200 --> 00:22:14,119 Speaker 3: Forgetting the children tuck like bathing suits and stuff for 412 00:22:14,200 --> 00:22:14,760 Speaker 3: people were. 413 00:22:14,600 --> 00:22:17,160 Speaker 2: Just like and the you know, the Disney chief creative 414 00:22:17,200 --> 00:22:20,679 Speaker 2: executive who's like, well, I have a pan sexual child 415 00:22:20,720 --> 00:22:23,600 Speaker 2: and a non binary child. That everyone's like, this is 416 00:22:23,720 --> 00:22:26,679 Speaker 2: in charge of what projects get made at Disney for kids? 417 00:22:27,680 --> 00:22:29,160 Speaker 5: What, by the way, what are the odds? 418 00:22:29,359 --> 00:22:30,960 Speaker 2: I know we talked about that, what are the odds 419 00:22:31,400 --> 00:22:33,520 Speaker 2: that the parent just happens to have a non binary 420 00:22:33,600 --> 00:22:36,359 Speaker 2: child and just happens to have a pan sexual child 421 00:22:37,359 --> 00:22:39,800 Speaker 2: and also a super left wing But these have nothing 422 00:22:39,800 --> 00:22:41,800 Speaker 2: to do with each other, right, It's not in doctrination, 423 00:22:41,920 --> 00:22:45,919 Speaker 2: it's just nature, not true. So I think this is 424 00:22:46,160 --> 00:22:48,119 Speaker 2: this is encouraging at some level, but play also I 425 00:22:48,119 --> 00:22:51,440 Speaker 2: think that Look, I don't follow again, you know the 426 00:22:51,440 --> 00:22:54,520 Speaker 2: sports stuff way better than I do. But with Patrick Mahomes, 427 00:22:54,840 --> 00:22:59,919 Speaker 2: he always comes across to me okay, just observing observe 428 00:23:00,200 --> 00:23:02,680 Speaker 2: him as I have in different interviews and things. He's 429 00:23:02,720 --> 00:23:07,159 Speaker 2: a guy who comes across as humble while being a superstar, 430 00:23:07,840 --> 00:23:13,199 Speaker 2: which is so refreshing to people. You know, he's a 431 00:23:13,240 --> 00:23:16,080 Speaker 2: guy who there's a gratitude that he has all the 432 00:23:16,160 --> 00:23:19,960 Speaker 2: time for being the best quarterback in the NFL, for 433 00:23:20,200 --> 00:23:22,920 Speaker 2: being a celebrated superstar, for being worth what is he worth, 434 00:23:22,920 --> 00:23:24,199 Speaker 2: forty fifty million dollars a year? 435 00:23:24,240 --> 00:23:26,960 Speaker 5: Whatever's on his content? Yeah easy or yeaheah, whatever it is. 436 00:23:26,960 --> 00:23:30,200 Speaker 2: I mean, I'm guessing he comes across like a guy 437 00:23:30,240 --> 00:23:33,199 Speaker 2: who really is like, I want to inspire people and 438 00:23:33,400 --> 00:23:37,280 Speaker 2: entertain them with my excellence on the field and make people, 439 00:23:38,400 --> 00:23:40,560 Speaker 2: you know, aspire for things in their own lives because 440 00:23:40,560 --> 00:23:42,359 Speaker 2: of the greatness that they're around and that they see 441 00:23:42,400 --> 00:23:46,760 Speaker 2: on my team, and that has value to people that 442 00:23:46,920 --> 00:23:49,480 Speaker 2: that's something you know, you don't need people to be telling. 443 00:23:49,600 --> 00:23:49,800 Speaker 1: You know. 444 00:23:49,800 --> 00:23:51,400 Speaker 2: The problem with the athletes is a lot of them 445 00:23:51,440 --> 00:23:53,199 Speaker 2: want to lecture every politics and I'm just like, you 446 00:23:53,200 --> 00:23:55,120 Speaker 2: don't know what you tell You're just not very well 447 00:23:55,119 --> 00:23:56,720 Speaker 2: informed on politics, right, correct? 448 00:23:57,040 --> 00:23:58,360 Speaker 5: And you actually expect. 449 00:23:58,080 --> 00:24:01,159 Speaker 3: Them to be right because those people who have to 450 00:24:01,200 --> 00:24:04,280 Speaker 3: commit and you do a great deal of time, effort, 451 00:24:04,320 --> 00:24:08,840 Speaker 3: and energy to being excellent at one particular field, it's 452 00:24:08,840 --> 00:24:11,400 Speaker 3: not that often that you're an expert in another field, right, 453 00:24:12,040 --> 00:24:13,800 Speaker 3: And I think it's fine for me able to share 454 00:24:13,840 --> 00:24:17,679 Speaker 3: their opinions. But I've always been of the opinion that 455 00:24:17,760 --> 00:24:21,639 Speaker 3: the Michael Jordan era, the Tiger Woods era, was a 456 00:24:21,760 --> 00:24:25,680 Speaker 3: unity era where we could all watch a great athlete 457 00:24:26,119 --> 00:24:28,720 Speaker 3: and we didn't need to think at all about anything 458 00:24:28,760 --> 00:24:31,720 Speaker 3: other than their athletic excellence. And it feels to me 459 00:24:32,160 --> 00:24:34,800 Speaker 3: when you got Patrick Mahomes and Caitlin Clark in the 460 00:24:34,840 --> 00:24:38,359 Speaker 3: same day, even in the midst of a high stress 461 00:24:38,480 --> 00:24:42,600 Speaker 3: political universe, saying yeah, I'm not gonna endorse, it feels 462 00:24:42,640 --> 00:24:47,639 Speaker 3: like a major cultural swift shift, swift shifty by what 463 00:24:47,680 --> 00:24:48,760 Speaker 3: Taylor Swift is doing. 464 00:24:49,119 --> 00:24:50,400 Speaker 5: I would even be happy with. 465 00:24:50,320 --> 00:24:53,520 Speaker 2: A move toward more prominent public figures just saying look, 466 00:24:53,800 --> 00:24:55,879 Speaker 2: I'm gonna vote Trump or I'm gonna vote Kamalo. But 467 00:24:55,920 --> 00:24:58,800 Speaker 2: I understand it's a personal decision, and I just encourage 468 00:24:58,840 --> 00:25:00,399 Speaker 2: everybody to do their own home work. 469 00:25:00,240 --> 00:25:01,040 Speaker 5: And get out or whatever. 470 00:25:01,480 --> 00:25:04,240 Speaker 2: The thing that really sits in you know, sticks in 471 00:25:04,280 --> 00:25:07,719 Speaker 2: people's car they think it really is annoying, is you know, well, 472 00:25:07,760 --> 00:25:09,840 Speaker 2: I just want to tell everybody, like, I can't imagine 473 00:25:09,840 --> 00:25:11,879 Speaker 2: how you wouldn't vote for this person or that person. 474 00:25:11,920 --> 00:25:14,640 Speaker 3: You know, It's like or I'm like the Chelsea Handlers 475 00:25:14,680 --> 00:25:17,000 Speaker 3: of the world being like, I'm gonna move to Canada, 476 00:25:17,040 --> 00:25:19,600 Speaker 3: and then you know, their side loses and they don't 477 00:25:19,640 --> 00:25:20,320 Speaker 3: move to Canada. 478 00:25:21,240 --> 00:25:22,560 Speaker 5: Well, it's always I'm actually. 479 00:25:22,280 --> 00:25:24,199 Speaker 2: Glad they did that now though, because it's so funny, 480 00:25:24,200 --> 00:25:26,879 Speaker 2: because it becomes such a cliche, you know, it's also 481 00:25:26,960 --> 00:25:30,520 Speaker 2: look not throwing shade at Canada, very nice people, you're 482 00:25:30,520 --> 00:25:31,320 Speaker 2: gonna leave the US. 483 00:25:31,359 --> 00:25:33,040 Speaker 5: I don't even know if that would be choice number one. 484 00:25:33,080 --> 00:25:34,120 Speaker 5: It's really cold in the winter. 485 00:25:34,640 --> 00:25:38,240 Speaker 3: Not even close to choice number one for me. I 486 00:25:38,240 --> 00:25:39,840 Speaker 3: mean not even in the like, I'm not sure it's 487 00:25:39,840 --> 00:25:45,000 Speaker 3: top twenty for me. Sorry, Canada Wow Sundays with Clay 488 00:25:45,000 --> 00:25:54,400 Speaker 3: and Bus sports, music movies. It appears to me that 489 00:25:54,480 --> 00:25:59,920 Speaker 3: there is a groundswell of desire which I think could 490 00:26:00,160 --> 00:26:04,800 Speaker 3: be so important to the discourse in this country for 491 00:26:05,080 --> 00:26:10,360 Speaker 3: America to go back to the era that Buck, even 492 00:26:10,400 --> 00:26:13,760 Speaker 3: though he's much younger than me and I, grew up in, 493 00:26:14,560 --> 00:26:17,760 Speaker 3: and that many of you out there around our ages 494 00:26:17,880 --> 00:26:22,440 Speaker 3: also grew up in the nineteen eighties and the nineteen nineties. 495 00:26:23,560 --> 00:26:26,760 Speaker 3: Many of you out there are nostalgic in many ways 496 00:26:26,800 --> 00:26:31,159 Speaker 3: for those eras. Even the early parts of the two thousands, 497 00:26:31,560 --> 00:26:36,080 Speaker 3: but in particular the eighties and the nineties, because we 498 00:26:36,160 --> 00:26:40,480 Speaker 3: had a crazy era. Then people might have disagreed politically, 499 00:26:41,160 --> 00:26:45,040 Speaker 3: but we didn't decide when somebody voted different than us 500 00:26:45,480 --> 00:26:49,720 Speaker 3: that they were despicable, as MSNBC has been calling Trump 501 00:26:49,760 --> 00:26:53,440 Speaker 3: supporters today or last night. We played that audio for 502 00:26:53,480 --> 00:26:57,000 Speaker 3: you earlier, and I've been arguing for a long time 503 00:26:57,119 --> 00:27:01,400 Speaker 3: that really the I would say celebrity, the athlete who 504 00:27:01,600 --> 00:27:07,679 Speaker 3: characterized that era better than anyone was Michael Jordan. Michael Jordan, 505 00:27:07,760 --> 00:27:12,160 Speaker 3: to this day is still the most popular athlete in America. 506 00:27:13,359 --> 00:27:16,040 Speaker 3: I'm My last book before this current one was called 507 00:27:16,080 --> 00:27:19,840 Speaker 3: Republicans by Sneakers. Two crazy stat for you. At the 508 00:27:19,840 --> 00:27:24,240 Speaker 3: time I wrote that book, Michael Jordan's Air Jordans Sneakers 509 00:27:24,800 --> 00:27:30,720 Speaker 3: still sold more every year than every current NBA player combined, 510 00:27:31,400 --> 00:27:35,120 Speaker 3: Lebron Steph Curry. You roll them all up together, they 511 00:27:35,280 --> 00:27:38,679 Speaker 3: sold less than Michael Jordan's Air Jordans were selling. I 512 00:27:38,680 --> 00:27:41,879 Speaker 3: think that's still close to true even today. Why was 513 00:27:41,920 --> 00:27:47,000 Speaker 3: that because Michael Jordan's hallmark was his excellence, and he 514 00:27:47,200 --> 00:27:52,320 Speaker 3: wanted everyone to celebrate his excellence. White, Black, Asian, Hispanic, gay, 515 00:27:52,359 --> 00:27:57,359 Speaker 3: Strait Republican, Democrat independent. In fact, my book was called 516 00:27:57,440 --> 00:28:01,560 Speaker 3: Republicans by Sneakers two because that was a quote from 517 00:28:01,600 --> 00:28:04,359 Speaker 3: Michael Jordan in that era when he was asked why 518 00:28:04,400 --> 00:28:09,399 Speaker 3: he didn't get political. Then suddenly that all changed. In 519 00:28:09,480 --> 00:28:13,480 Speaker 3: the Trump era, athletes decided they had to use their platforms, 520 00:28:13,520 --> 00:28:15,280 Speaker 3: and they had to be super partisan, and they had 521 00:28:15,280 --> 00:28:17,719 Speaker 3: to come out in favor of Hillary Clinton, they had 522 00:28:17,760 --> 00:28:21,240 Speaker 3: to come out in favor of Joe Biden. It's dying 523 00:28:21,359 --> 00:28:24,719 Speaker 3: down now buck. In twenty twenty four and yesterday, there 524 00:28:24,720 --> 00:28:29,200 Speaker 3: were three different clips that I think tell an interesting story. First, 525 00:28:29,320 --> 00:28:32,640 Speaker 3: let's start with Patrick Mahomes, who I would argue is 526 00:28:33,040 --> 00:28:38,760 Speaker 3: the single most famous male athlete in America today, quarterback 527 00:28:38,800 --> 00:28:42,360 Speaker 3: for the Kansas City Chiefs. His wife Brittany has suggested, 528 00:28:42,400 --> 00:28:45,160 Speaker 3: based on things she's liked, that she is a Trump supporter. 529 00:28:45,600 --> 00:28:49,040 Speaker 3: Trump has been complementary of Patrick Mahomes and Brittany. He 530 00:28:49,160 --> 00:28:51,480 Speaker 3: was asked about it at a press conference yesterday. This 531 00:28:51,600 --> 00:28:53,160 Speaker 3: is what he said for President. 532 00:28:52,880 --> 00:28:56,680 Speaker 7: Trump family at the Fox News and relations to this campaign. 533 00:28:56,760 --> 00:28:58,600 Speaker 1: I just wonder what your reaction is to seeing that. 534 00:28:58,840 --> 00:29:02,200 Speaker 7: Yeah, I think I've always I don't want I don't 535 00:29:02,200 --> 00:29:04,560 Speaker 7: want my place in my platform to be used to 536 00:29:04,640 --> 00:29:08,000 Speaker 7: endorse a candidate or do whatever each either way, I 537 00:29:08,000 --> 00:29:10,280 Speaker 7: think my place is to inform people to get registered 538 00:29:10,280 --> 00:29:12,600 Speaker 7: to vote, is to inform people to do their own 539 00:29:12,640 --> 00:29:15,280 Speaker 7: research and then make their best decision for them and 540 00:29:15,320 --> 00:29:17,880 Speaker 7: their family. And so I think that's where every time 541 00:29:17,880 --> 00:29:20,440 Speaker 7: I'm on this stage and I get asked these questions, 542 00:29:20,440 --> 00:29:21,959 Speaker 7: I'm going to refer back to that, because I think 543 00:29:21,960 --> 00:29:23,160 Speaker 7: that's what makes America so great. 544 00:29:24,760 --> 00:29:27,080 Speaker 3: Pretty great answer in many ways. 545 00:29:27,360 --> 00:29:30,560 Speaker 2: You know what's funny about this, Clay is a lot 546 00:29:30,600 --> 00:29:32,800 Speaker 2: of people hear that people like you and me and 547 00:29:32,840 --> 00:29:35,280 Speaker 2: others will listen and say, I wish pretty much every 548 00:29:35,320 --> 00:29:38,560 Speaker 2: athlete would just do this, Although then athletes look, well, 549 00:29:38,600 --> 00:29:41,000 Speaker 2: we're not allowed to have, you know, opinions on politics. 550 00:29:41,000 --> 00:29:46,000 Speaker 2: But yeah, more and Hollywood actors, you know, famous people 551 00:29:46,040 --> 00:29:47,880 Speaker 2: of all kinds. I wish they would just stop with 552 00:29:47,960 --> 00:29:52,720 Speaker 2: the But because he's not willing to smugly lecture everybody 553 00:29:52,760 --> 00:29:56,600 Speaker 2: on politics when we just want to celebrate athletic greatness, 554 00:29:56,960 --> 00:29:59,120 Speaker 2: people are gonn to assume he's Republican, you know that, right? 555 00:29:59,120 --> 00:30:01,719 Speaker 2: I mean, this is now the only people that are like, 556 00:30:01,920 --> 00:30:05,440 Speaker 2: I don't want to be annoying about my politics are Republican. 557 00:30:05,720 --> 00:30:09,520 Speaker 2: If you're a big Kamala voter, you're telling everybody you 558 00:30:09,640 --> 00:30:11,200 Speaker 2: gotta vote for Kamala. 559 00:30:11,040 --> 00:30:13,680 Speaker 3: What I said, and I'll stand by it. Just to 560 00:30:13,720 --> 00:30:18,720 Speaker 3: be fair. If your wife is voting Trump, what are 561 00:30:18,800 --> 00:30:22,320 Speaker 3: the odds that the man isn't? How many, honest question, 562 00:30:22,440 --> 00:30:24,680 Speaker 3: how many married couples out there? I think there are 563 00:30:24,720 --> 00:30:27,040 Speaker 3: a lot that split, right, we have a gender divide. 564 00:30:27,080 --> 00:30:29,800 Speaker 3: I think there's lots of men who would vote Trump. 565 00:30:30,320 --> 00:30:32,480 Speaker 3: I think there's women who would vote Kamala. I think 566 00:30:32,480 --> 00:30:35,800 Speaker 3: there's lots of those households. I think there are many 567 00:30:35,880 --> 00:30:40,479 Speaker 3: fewer households where wife votes Trump and husband votes Kamala. 568 00:30:40,520 --> 00:30:43,000 Speaker 3: Would you agree with that? That is a like a 569 00:30:43,200 --> 00:30:46,480 Speaker 3: very like there's lots where both do the same. My household, 570 00:30:46,520 --> 00:30:48,560 Speaker 3: we're gonna have double Trump voters. I think it's fair 571 00:30:48,600 --> 00:30:51,600 Speaker 3: to say, buck your household, you'll have double Trump voters. 572 00:30:52,120 --> 00:30:53,640 Speaker 5: Oh yeah, yeah. 573 00:30:53,840 --> 00:30:56,280 Speaker 2: Just so there's a lot of paris Like, what was 574 00:30:56,320 --> 00:30:59,240 Speaker 2: that criticism of Trump you had. Let's let's tighten that 575 00:30:59,360 --> 00:30:59,920 Speaker 2: up a little bit. 576 00:31:00,440 --> 00:31:05,160 Speaker 3: Okay, So there's lots of households out there that are 577 00:31:05,160 --> 00:31:08,040 Speaker 3: going to double Kamala vote. I do not believe there's 578 00:31:08,120 --> 00:31:11,720 Speaker 3: very many households where woman is a Trump supporter and 579 00:31:11,920 --> 00:31:14,480 Speaker 3: husband is a Kamala supporter. So I think you're right there, 580 00:31:14,480 --> 00:31:16,600 Speaker 3: But I do think it's significant. He went on to say, 581 00:31:16,920 --> 00:31:19,160 Speaker 3: I don't judge people by their politics. I can get 582 00:31:19,200 --> 00:31:21,560 Speaker 3: along with anybody because they kind of let him on. 583 00:31:21,640 --> 00:31:26,160 Speaker 3: Because Taylor Swift has decided that she's going to endorse Kamala, okay. 584 00:31:26,440 --> 00:31:31,440 Speaker 3: Caitlyn Clark was also asked the same question yesterday. I 585 00:31:31,480 --> 00:31:34,760 Speaker 3: would submit to you that Caitlyn Clark is probably the 586 00:31:34,800 --> 00:31:37,720 Speaker 3: most famous female athlete in America right now, here's what 587 00:31:37,760 --> 00:31:38,240 Speaker 3: she said. 588 00:31:38,640 --> 00:31:42,080 Speaker 8: You liked an Instagram post last night from Taylor Swift 589 00:31:42,080 --> 00:31:45,000 Speaker 8: that got a lot of attention, and I'm just curious 590 00:31:45,080 --> 00:31:48,720 Speaker 8: if you could tell us what that post meant to 591 00:31:48,800 --> 00:31:52,880 Speaker 8: you and if you are in fact potentially going to 592 00:31:52,960 --> 00:31:54,800 Speaker 8: endorse Kamala Harris today. 593 00:31:54,920 --> 00:31:57,720 Speaker 9: For myself, as you know, I had this amazing platform, 594 00:31:57,800 --> 00:31:59,959 Speaker 9: So I think the biggest thing would be interesting her 595 00:32:00,160 --> 00:32:02,920 Speaker 9: people to register to vote. I think for myself is 596 00:32:02,920 --> 00:32:04,800 Speaker 9: the second time I can vote an election at age 597 00:32:04,800 --> 00:32:06,600 Speaker 9: twenty two. Have a vote when I was eighteen, So 598 00:32:07,400 --> 00:32:08,840 Speaker 9: I think do that that's the. 599 00:32:08,840 --> 00:32:10,640 Speaker 10: Biggest thing I can do with the platform that I have, 600 00:32:10,760 --> 00:32:13,520 Speaker 10: and that's the same thing caredate and I think continue 601 00:32:13,560 --> 00:32:16,360 Speaker 10: to educate yourself the candidates that we have, the policies 602 00:32:16,360 --> 00:32:17,160 Speaker 10: that they're supporting. 603 00:32:17,680 --> 00:32:19,120 Speaker 9: I think that's the biggest thing you can do, and 604 00:32:19,160 --> 00:32:21,680 Speaker 9: that's what I would recommend to every single person. 605 00:32:21,400 --> 00:32:23,080 Speaker 10: That has that opportunity in our country. 606 00:32:23,840 --> 00:32:26,520 Speaker 2: You know what, Okay, play, Yeah, it's you know and 607 00:32:26,640 --> 00:32:28,920 Speaker 2: obviously you follow sports professional sports a lot more than 608 00:32:28,960 --> 00:32:32,520 Speaker 2: I do. That's because that saying I watch the super 609 00:32:32,520 --> 00:32:35,320 Speaker 2: Bowl and the US Open and that's about it. But 610 00:32:36,400 --> 00:32:38,320 Speaker 2: that's somebody who wants to build a brand that's worth 611 00:32:38,400 --> 00:32:40,120 Speaker 2: hundreds of millions of dollars is what that is. 612 00:32:40,480 --> 00:32:41,239 Speaker 5: That's what that is. 613 00:32:41,760 --> 00:32:43,560 Speaker 2: That's somebody who's like, you know what, I don't want 614 00:32:43,600 --> 00:32:50,680 Speaker 2: to antagonize half of my prospective ticket Shoe Jersey, I 615 00:32:50,680 --> 00:32:53,680 Speaker 2: don't know, you know, skincare product, whatever she's done. 616 00:32:53,720 --> 00:32:57,600 Speaker 3: That is Michael Jordan's example, or Tiger Woods for that matter. Okay, 617 00:32:57,640 --> 00:32:59,760 Speaker 3: one more because I think this one is funny too. 618 00:33:00,120 --> 00:33:04,040 Speaker 3: Usher was on our favorite show, The View. Usher. If 619 00:33:04,080 --> 00:33:07,920 Speaker 3: those of you don't know, prominent black musician Joy Behar 620 00:33:08,400 --> 00:33:11,880 Speaker 3: just went all in on Hey, don't you need to 621 00:33:12,040 --> 00:33:15,960 Speaker 3: endorse Kamala. Here's the answer, here's the response in this. 622 00:33:15,920 --> 00:33:19,360 Speaker 11: Emergency that we're in. I think that whose artists come 623 00:33:19,400 --> 00:33:22,760 Speaker 11: out and speak for Kamala against Donald Trump because he 624 00:33:22,880 --> 00:33:25,360 Speaker 11: is an existential threat to the country. What do you 625 00:33:25,400 --> 00:33:25,880 Speaker 11: say to that? 626 00:33:25,960 --> 00:33:26,240 Speaker 1: You know what. 627 00:33:26,280 --> 00:33:28,520 Speaker 12: I don't get too deep into politics. I didn't get 628 00:33:28,560 --> 00:33:30,560 Speaker 12: a chance to watch the debate last night. I obviously 629 00:33:30,680 --> 00:33:34,640 Speaker 12: have been watching like everybody else. I think voting is 630 00:33:34,680 --> 00:33:38,440 Speaker 12: an individual choice. I think that you're right. You have 631 00:33:38,560 --> 00:33:41,080 Speaker 12: to look at the reality of the country that we 632 00:33:41,160 --> 00:33:43,760 Speaker 12: are and the country that we want to be and 633 00:33:43,800 --> 00:33:45,080 Speaker 12: find the candidate. 634 00:33:44,680 --> 00:33:46,280 Speaker 1: That you feel both. 635 00:33:48,040 --> 00:33:50,000 Speaker 12: Who fits the category of where we want to be. 636 00:33:51,320 --> 00:33:54,720 Speaker 12: And that's what you vote. Based off of who you 637 00:33:56,040 --> 00:33:58,880 Speaker 12: highlight and how you choose to highlight it on whatever 638 00:33:58,920 --> 00:34:00,880 Speaker 12: platform you had, is your prerogative. 639 00:34:02,320 --> 00:34:07,280 Speaker 3: Look to me, Buck Mahomes, Caitlin Clark, and Usher Boom 640 00:34:07,320 --> 00:34:09,720 Speaker 3: boom boom. Maybe they all have the same pr person, 641 00:34:10,400 --> 00:34:13,560 Speaker 3: but all three of them, especially Usher there when Joy 642 00:34:13,600 --> 00:34:16,720 Speaker 3: Behar is like trying to berate him on a super 643 00:34:16,840 --> 00:34:20,759 Speaker 3: left wing show to endorse Kamala and admit and hit 644 00:34:20,800 --> 00:34:23,399 Speaker 3: her opinion that Trump's a horrible human being. I think 645 00:34:23,440 --> 00:34:26,040 Speaker 3: that's a significant cultural shift that we're seeing. 646 00:34:26,920 --> 00:34:31,839 Speaker 2: Yes, and I think it's one. It's the business move 647 00:34:31,880 --> 00:34:35,520 Speaker 2: that we thought everybody was going to be making in 648 00:34:35,560 --> 00:34:39,520 Speaker 2: the public sphere until really about what fifteen to now. 649 00:34:39,600 --> 00:34:41,719 Speaker 2: I mean their Hollywood actresses who've always been very vocal 650 00:34:41,719 --> 00:34:43,319 Speaker 2: about their politics. But I mean, if you were just 651 00:34:43,360 --> 00:34:48,080 Speaker 2: trying to maximize your brand's profitability, you tended not to 652 00:34:48,120 --> 00:34:51,840 Speaker 2: antagonize half the country. That changed, Yes, that changed, and 653 00:34:51,880 --> 00:34:53,920 Speaker 2: then you had people like Colin Kaepernick who were dragging 654 00:34:54,000 --> 00:34:57,279 Speaker 2: it in the other direction of Oh, it's worth so 655 00:34:57,400 --> 00:35:00,360 Speaker 2: much more to you to be woke and to wheeze 656 00:35:00,400 --> 00:35:03,080 Speaker 2: everything you can out of that that spitting in the 657 00:35:03,080 --> 00:35:05,080 Speaker 2: face of half of your audience when they don't care 658 00:35:05,120 --> 00:35:07,960 Speaker 2: what you think about the following things. Is that's a 659 00:35:08,000 --> 00:35:10,280 Speaker 2: trade off you should make. I do think the pendulum 660 00:35:10,320 --> 00:35:12,319 Speaker 2: has started to swing back. You know, it's the bud 661 00:35:12,440 --> 00:35:16,959 Speaker 2: light effect. It's a number of what was the what's 662 00:35:16,960 --> 00:35:21,239 Speaker 2: that store target with all the sort of lgbt Q stuff. 663 00:35:21,000 --> 00:35:24,920 Speaker 3: Forgetting the children tuck like bathing suits and stuff for 664 00:35:24,960 --> 00:35:25,719 Speaker 3: people were just like. 665 00:35:25,640 --> 00:35:29,120 Speaker 2: And the you know, the Disney chief creative executive who's like, well, 666 00:35:29,200 --> 00:35:32,520 Speaker 2: I have a pan sexual child and a non binary 667 00:35:32,600 --> 00:35:35,160 Speaker 2: child that everyone's like, this is in charge of what 668 00:35:35,200 --> 00:35:37,440 Speaker 2: projects get made at Disney for kids? 669 00:35:38,480 --> 00:35:40,279 Speaker 5: What, by the way, what are the odds? I know 670 00:35:40,320 --> 00:35:41,279 Speaker 5: we talked about that, what are. 671 00:35:41,160 --> 00:35:43,600 Speaker 2: The odds that the parent just happens to have a 672 00:35:43,640 --> 00:35:46,080 Speaker 2: non binary child and just happens to have a pan 673 00:35:46,200 --> 00:35:50,080 Speaker 2: sexual child and also a super left wing But these 674 00:35:50,160 --> 00:35:51,759 Speaker 2: have nothing to do with each other, right, It's not 675 00:35:51,880 --> 00:35:54,960 Speaker 2: in doctrination, it's just nature. Not true. 676 00:35:55,320 --> 00:35:58,160 Speaker 5: So I think this is this is encouraging at some level. 677 00:35:58,160 --> 00:36:01,280 Speaker 2: But play also I think that, Look, I don't follow again, 678 00:36:01,440 --> 00:36:03,480 Speaker 2: you know the sports stuff way better than I do. 679 00:36:03,880 --> 00:36:09,440 Speaker 2: But with Patrick Mahomes, he always comes across to me, okay, 680 00:36:09,640 --> 00:36:12,200 Speaker 2: just observing observing him as I have in different interviews 681 00:36:12,239 --> 00:36:16,760 Speaker 2: and things. He's a guy who comes across as humble 682 00:36:16,800 --> 00:36:22,280 Speaker 2: while being a superstar, which is so refreshing to people. 683 00:36:22,840 --> 00:36:26,040 Speaker 2: You know, he's a guy who there's a gratitude that 684 00:36:26,080 --> 00:36:29,560 Speaker 2: he has all the time for being the best quarterback 685 00:36:29,600 --> 00:36:32,919 Speaker 2: in the NFL, for being a celebrated superstar, for being 686 00:36:32,960 --> 00:36:35,000 Speaker 2: worth what is he worth forty fifty million dollars a year? 687 00:36:35,040 --> 00:36:37,719 Speaker 5: Whatever's on his content? Yea easily yeaeah whatever it is. 688 00:36:37,760 --> 00:36:40,960 Speaker 2: I mean, I'm guessing he comes across like a guy 689 00:36:41,000 --> 00:36:44,000 Speaker 2: who really is like, I want to inspire people and 690 00:36:44,200 --> 00:36:48,040 Speaker 2: entertain them with my excellence on the field and make people, 691 00:36:49,200 --> 00:36:51,319 Speaker 2: you know, aspire for things in their own lives because 692 00:36:51,320 --> 00:36:53,120 Speaker 2: of the greatness that they're around and that they see 693 00:36:53,200 --> 00:36:57,680 Speaker 2: on my team, and that has value to people. That 694 00:36:57,680 --> 00:36:59,840 Speaker 2: that's something you know, you don't need people to be, 695 00:37:00,400 --> 00:37:01,920 Speaker 2: you know. The problem with the athletes is a lot 696 00:37:01,960 --> 00:37:03,880 Speaker 2: of them want to lecture on politics, and I'm just like, 697 00:37:03,920 --> 00:37:05,239 Speaker 2: you don't know what you tell You're just not very 698 00:37:05,680 --> 00:37:07,560 Speaker 2: well informed on politics, right, correct? 699 00:37:07,800 --> 00:37:08,719 Speaker 5: And you wouldn't. 700 00:37:08,400 --> 00:37:11,799 Speaker 3: Expect them to be right because most people who have 701 00:37:11,880 --> 00:37:15,080 Speaker 3: to commit and you do a great deal of time, effort, 702 00:37:15,080 --> 00:37:19,600 Speaker 3: and energy to being excellent at one particular field, it's 703 00:37:19,640 --> 00:37:22,200 Speaker 3: not that often that you're an expert in another field, right. 704 00:37:22,800 --> 00:37:25,320 Speaker 3: And I think it's fine for people to share their opinions. 705 00:37:25,640 --> 00:37:29,040 Speaker 3: But I've always been of the opinion that the Michael 706 00:37:29,120 --> 00:37:33,319 Speaker 3: Jordan era, the Tiger Woods era, was a unity era 707 00:37:33,560 --> 00:37:37,200 Speaker 3: where we could all watch a great athlete and we 708 00:37:37,320 --> 00:37:40,000 Speaker 3: didn't need to think at all about anything other than 709 00:37:40,040 --> 00:37:43,160 Speaker 3: their athletic excellence. And it feels to me when you 710 00:37:43,239 --> 00:37:46,279 Speaker 3: got Patrick Mahomes and Caitlin Clark in the same day, 711 00:37:46,960 --> 00:37:50,719 Speaker 3: even in the midst of a high stress political universe, 712 00:37:51,080 --> 00:37:53,480 Speaker 3: saying yeah, I'm not going to endorse. It feels like 713 00:37:53,560 --> 00:37:58,800 Speaker 3: a major cultural swift shift. Swift shift by what Taylor 714 00:37:58,800 --> 00:38:01,239 Speaker 3: Swift is doing. I would even be happy. 715 00:38:00,960 --> 00:38:04,279 Speaker 2: With a move toward more prominent public figures just saying look, 716 00:38:04,560 --> 00:38:06,600 Speaker 2: I'm gonna vote Trump or I'm gonna vote Kamalo. But 717 00:38:06,680 --> 00:38:09,600 Speaker 2: I understand it's a personal decision, and I just encourage 718 00:38:09,600 --> 00:38:11,800 Speaker 2: everybody to do their own homework and get out or whatever. 719 00:38:12,239 --> 00:38:15,040 Speaker 2: The thing that really sits in you know, sticks in 720 00:38:15,040 --> 00:38:18,520 Speaker 2: people's car. I think it really is annoying, is you know, well, 721 00:38:18,520 --> 00:38:20,600 Speaker 2: I just want to tell everybody, like, I can't imagine 722 00:38:20,600 --> 00:38:22,680 Speaker 2: how you wouldn't vote for this person or that person. 723 00:38:22,719 --> 00:38:24,880 Speaker 3: You know, it's like or I'm him, like the Chelsea 724 00:38:24,960 --> 00:38:27,760 Speaker 3: Handlers of the world being like, I'm gonna move to Canada, 725 00:38:27,840 --> 00:38:30,160 Speaker 3: and then you know, the their side loses and they 726 00:38:30,160 --> 00:38:31,880 Speaker 3: don't move to Canada. 727 00:38:32,000 --> 00:38:34,000 Speaker 2: Well, it's always I'm actually glad they do that now though, 728 00:38:34,040 --> 00:38:36,560 Speaker 2: because it's so funny, because it becomes such a cliche. 729 00:38:36,680 --> 00:38:39,680 Speaker 5: You know, it's also look not throwing shade at Canada. 730 00:38:39,880 --> 00:38:42,399 Speaker 2: Very nice people. You're gonna leave the US. I don't 731 00:38:42,400 --> 00:38:44,040 Speaker 2: even know if that would be choice number one. It's 732 00:38:44,040 --> 00:38:44,920 Speaker 2: really cold in the winter. 733 00:38:45,400 --> 00:38:49,000 Speaker 3: Not even close to choice number one for me, I 734 00:38:49,000 --> 00:38:50,600 Speaker 3: mean not even in the like. I'm not sure it's 735 00:38:50,640 --> 00:38:52,720 Speaker 3: top twenty for me. Sorry, Canada. 736 00:38:52,960 --> 00:38:53,440 Speaker 4: Wow. 737 00:38:54,160 --> 00:38:56,120 Speaker 1: Sunday Drum with Clay Buck. 738 00:38:57,520 --> 00:39:01,400 Speaker 6: Hey, Jeff, where are you from? In Brockville, Ontario? 739 00:39:01,680 --> 00:39:03,480 Speaker 5: So there we go right now, thank you. 740 00:39:04,880 --> 00:39:07,479 Speaker 6: Right out my window, I see the United States Upper State, 741 00:39:07,520 --> 00:39:12,200 Speaker 6: New York and it's Trump country up there. Yeahs talking 742 00:39:12,239 --> 00:39:15,440 Speaker 6: about how expensive it is up here in Canada. A 743 00:39:15,520 --> 00:39:19,160 Speaker 6: house here in Brockville, it'll run you probably about a 744 00:39:19,200 --> 00:39:22,680 Speaker 6: starter home, probably about three hundred, four hundred thousand dollars Canadians. 745 00:39:23,680 --> 00:39:28,440 Speaker 6: But I know people that bought houses in Ogdensburg in 746 00:39:28,480 --> 00:39:32,160 Speaker 6: the States because they're buying them for between fifty and 747 00:39:32,280 --> 00:39:36,080 Speaker 6: ninety thousand US and going to work across the bridge 748 00:39:36,120 --> 00:39:37,720 Speaker 6: every day. 749 00:39:37,560 --> 00:39:40,680 Speaker 2: So it is housing in Canada is super expensive. I 750 00:39:40,760 --> 00:39:42,520 Speaker 2: was just thinking of the metro areas, but it sounds 751 00:39:42,560 --> 00:39:44,200 Speaker 2: like you're telling me it's a broader problem. 752 00:39:44,640 --> 00:39:48,000 Speaker 6: It's everywhere. It's in every small town, any large town, 753 00:39:48,120 --> 00:39:49,920 Speaker 6: medium town. It's out of control. 754 00:39:50,120 --> 00:39:53,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, because that would be consistent with the government regulations. 755 00:39:53,120 --> 00:39:55,640 Speaker 2: As you is, this Pierre Polyef guy, he doesn't really 756 00:39:55,680 --> 00:39:58,360 Speaker 2: cross over in the US media much. He's the conservative 757 00:39:58,400 --> 00:39:59,480 Speaker 2: leader up there, right, he is. 758 00:39:59,520 --> 00:40:03,640 Speaker 6: He the real he's a real deal. And this is 759 00:40:03,719 --> 00:40:07,120 Speaker 6: area that I'm in as a conservative stronghold. But if 760 00:40:07,120 --> 00:40:09,560 Speaker 6: they called an election today, you wouldn't have a Liberal 761 00:40:09,600 --> 00:40:12,360 Speaker 6: party anymore, and you wouldn't have an NDP party anymore. 762 00:40:12,960 --> 00:40:13,320 Speaker 5: Wow. 763 00:40:13,400 --> 00:40:16,080 Speaker 3: Okay, cool, Thank you for the call, Thank you for listening. 764 00:40:17,320 --> 00:40:21,160 Speaker 2: As as playing Buck International, Baby, We're international, that's all 765 00:40:21,160 --> 00:40:21,719 Speaker 2: I can tell you. 766 00:40:21,719 --> 00:40:24,080 Speaker 5: We got listeners. It's actually fun. Sometimes we get these 767 00:40:24,080 --> 00:40:24,600 Speaker 5: little maps. 768 00:40:24,640 --> 00:40:27,520 Speaker 2: It'll show us like a heat map of where people 769 00:40:27,520 --> 00:40:29,480 Speaker 2: listen all the world, and all of a sudden, we'll 770 00:40:29,520 --> 00:40:32,440 Speaker 2: see we'll see some listening in Germany, and some listening 771 00:40:32,520 --> 00:40:34,880 Speaker 2: in South Korea, and some listening in the South Pacific. 772 00:40:34,920 --> 00:40:38,360 Speaker 2: You're like, oh, that's right, US military bases, of course. 773 00:40:39,480 --> 00:40:41,759 Speaker 3: And I think that is probably one of the things 774 00:40:41,800 --> 00:40:45,759 Speaker 3: you've been overseas as well. Buck. The thing that a 775 00:40:45,760 --> 00:40:49,640 Speaker 3: lot of times people connect with is their hometown. I 776 00:40:49,680 --> 00:40:53,160 Speaker 3: saw it in sports. We had massive amounts of military 777 00:40:53,200 --> 00:40:56,000 Speaker 3: listeners for sports talk radio because you just crave a 778 00:40:56,080 --> 00:40:58,960 Speaker 3: taste and a feel of home. And I know this 779 00:40:59,000 --> 00:41:02,800 Speaker 3: show has always he's been Rush himself would talk about 780 00:41:02,800 --> 00:41:05,600 Speaker 3: it sometimes, how many people on bases would listen because 781 00:41:05,600 --> 00:41:08,000 Speaker 3: they might have listened in their car driving around with 782 00:41:08,080 --> 00:41:10,799 Speaker 3: their parents. It just gave them a little bit more 783 00:41:10,880 --> 00:41:13,440 Speaker 3: of a taste to home when you feel so far away. 784 00:41:13,520 --> 00:41:16,640 Speaker 3: So thank you to everybody that is in fact listening 785 00:41:16,680 --> 00:41:21,440 Speaker 3: and streaming this show serving overseas right now we're living overseas. 786 00:41:21,520 --> 00:41:23,120 Speaker 3: We hope we're bringing you a little bit more of 787 00:41:23,160 --> 00:41:24,719 Speaker 3: a feel of how things are going in the good 788 00:41:24,719 --> 00:41:25,360 Speaker 3: old USA. 789 00:41:26,239 --> 00:41:31,600 Speaker 5: Got some vip emails here. Let's see, we've got Mike Rights. 790 00:41:31,800 --> 00:41:34,120 Speaker 2: I wonder how Kamala's price fixing plan is going to 791 00:41:34,200 --> 00:41:37,360 Speaker 2: work out with Taylor Script's one thousand dollars concert ticket prices. 792 00:41:37,840 --> 00:41:40,719 Speaker 2: Talk about gouging, Yeah, well what is the deal with? 793 00:41:41,719 --> 00:41:43,799 Speaker 2: First of all, some of the companies that are involved 794 00:41:43,880 --> 00:41:47,560 Speaker 2: in like concert ticket sales are so scummy and it's 795 00:41:47,640 --> 00:41:53,960 Speaker 2: like a disgusting cartel of price hijacking and go ahead. 796 00:41:53,719 --> 00:41:55,759 Speaker 3: No, I was just gonna say, I mean, yes, the 797 00:41:56,080 --> 00:42:00,960 Speaker 3: tickets have gotten crazy expensive. It's also the case that 798 00:42:01,120 --> 00:42:05,359 Speaker 3: Taylor Swift, who is a billionaire. When you become a billionaire, 799 00:42:05,719 --> 00:42:08,719 Speaker 3: who the president of the United States is, does not 800 00:42:08,960 --> 00:42:12,520 Speaker 3: actually impact your life very much. So to me, when 801 00:42:12,560 --> 00:42:16,480 Speaker 3: you're a billionaire lecturing people on how you think they 802 00:42:16,520 --> 00:42:21,040 Speaker 3: should vote, it really strikes, in Taylor Swift terms a 803 00:42:21,200 --> 00:42:24,799 Speaker 3: cord that does not feel very true to me when 804 00:42:24,880 --> 00:42:28,800 Speaker 3: you are living above the line to such an extent 805 00:42:28,840 --> 00:42:33,440 Speaker 3: that there's nothing that could happen financially to Taylor Swift 806 00:42:33,560 --> 00:42:37,080 Speaker 3: that could drastically change her lifestyle compared to most of 807 00:42:37,120 --> 00:42:40,640 Speaker 3: Taylor Swift's fans who are desperately scrimping and saving to 808 00:42:40,680 --> 00:42:42,480 Speaker 3: try to be able to go watch one of her concerts. 809 00:42:42,480 --> 00:42:45,920 Speaker 2: You know, when was the last time Taylor Swift was 810 00:42:45,960 --> 00:42:47,680 Speaker 2: in anything. 811 00:42:47,040 --> 00:42:51,280 Speaker 5: That you would consider to be a truly middle class 812 00:42:52,239 --> 00:42:55,480 Speaker 5: home and for any length of time? Any question? 813 00:42:55,600 --> 00:42:57,520 Speaker 3: When was the last time she was on a commercial 814 00:42:57,560 --> 00:43:02,400 Speaker 3: airline flight? A commercial I bet she hasn't been on 815 00:43:02,440 --> 00:43:05,160 Speaker 3: a commercial airline flight in ten years. I mean, she's 816 00:43:05,200 --> 00:43:07,080 Speaker 3: got her private jets. She claims to care so much 817 00:43:07,080 --> 00:43:09,640 Speaker 3: about global warming, but she jets all over the place 818 00:43:09,920 --> 00:43:11,879 Speaker 3: in the jet. And I don't begrudge anybody who has 819 00:43:11,880 --> 00:43:14,279 Speaker 3: a private jet. I think if you have that those 820 00:43:14,360 --> 00:43:16,600 Speaker 3: resources and you want to use them, good for you. 821 00:43:17,120 --> 00:43:19,799 Speaker 3: But I think it's just like her connection to her 822 00:43:19,880 --> 00:43:22,040 Speaker 3: average fan base is not very there's not a lot 823 00:43:22,040 --> 00:43:22,560 Speaker 3: of overloading. 824 00:43:22,600 --> 00:43:24,440 Speaker 2: This is where the this is where the cruelty of 825 00:43:24,480 --> 00:43:28,680 Speaker 2: Democrat positions really comes in, especially for the Democrat elites. 826 00:43:29,280 --> 00:43:33,040 Speaker 2: They advocate for things that make them feel good about 827 00:43:33,080 --> 00:43:37,520 Speaker 2: themselves that will hurt everyday people. And this is This 828 00:43:37,680 --> 00:43:40,759 Speaker 2: is on crime, this is on taxes, and the economy 829 00:43:41,040 --> 00:43:44,080 Speaker 2: is on the border. It's oh, I'm just you know, 830 00:43:44,480 --> 00:43:47,040 Speaker 2: we are the world man. I'm a humanitarian. I care 831 00:43:47,080 --> 00:43:50,040 Speaker 2: about climate change. I want everyone to have free everything 832 00:43:50,520 --> 00:43:53,720 Speaker 2: as long as I'm flying private and have personal chefs 833 00:43:53,760 --> 00:43:56,279 Speaker 2: and fifteen houses to go to and. 834 00:43:56,280 --> 00:43:59,880 Speaker 3: Lots of film it, lots of fenses to protect you, 835 00:44:00,239 --> 00:44:03,000 Speaker 3: lots of walls to keep you from anybody being able. 836 00:44:03,040 --> 00:44:03,520 Speaker 5: Excuse me. 837 00:44:04,160 --> 00:44:06,880 Speaker 2: Kamala is unburdened by what has been She wants a 838 00:44:06,880 --> 00:44:07,319 Speaker 2: wall now. 839 00:44:07,360 --> 00:44:10,160 Speaker 3: Clay, It's very true. 840 00:44:10,160 --> 00:44:12,760 Speaker 1: Sunday Sizzle with Clay and Buck. 841 00:44:14,680 --> 00:44:17,239 Speaker 3: Our crew has been killing it. We're on Clay and 842 00:44:17,320 --> 00:44:23,680 Speaker 3: Buck is TikTok, Instagram, Facebook, Twitter, Basically, if there is 843 00:44:23,719 --> 00:44:27,160 Speaker 3: a social platform, we are on it, so if you 844 00:44:27,200 --> 00:44:30,200 Speaker 3: guys want to search us out individually, we often are 845 00:44:30,239 --> 00:44:33,560 Speaker 3: on there too. Clay Travis Buck Sexton. If you are 846 00:44:33,560 --> 00:44:37,200 Speaker 3: on a social platform and you want to share content 847 00:44:37,239 --> 00:44:39,440 Speaker 3: with your kids or your grandkids, or you know your 848 00:44:39,520 --> 00:44:42,040 Speaker 3: kids or grandkids are there and maybe that's the way 849 00:44:42,040 --> 00:44:44,200 Speaker 3: you cut through noise and get to them with something 850 00:44:44,239 --> 00:44:47,000 Speaker 3: that you heard here or something that you think is interesting, 851 00:44:47,040 --> 00:44:49,840 Speaker 3: you can track us down there. We know that people 852 00:44:49,920 --> 00:44:53,920 Speaker 3: are consuming so many different locations on any given day. 853 00:44:53,960 --> 00:44:57,560 Speaker 3: We're also up on YouTube, and certainly you can subscribe 854 00:44:57,560 --> 00:44:59,480 Speaker 3: to the Clay and buckfeed and you can get us 855 00:44:59,560 --> 00:45:03,040 Speaker 3: Hello video feeds every single day. And also I'd like 856 00:45:03,080 --> 00:45:06,320 Speaker 3: for you to go subscribe to our coffee. You're gonna 857 00:45:06,320 --> 00:45:08,799 Speaker 3: be tired on Saturday. Maybe you got a late night 858 00:45:08,840 --> 00:45:10,759 Speaker 3: on Friday. I think I'm gonna be at a high 859 00:45:10,760 --> 00:45:14,320 Speaker 3: school football game and I'm flying up to Wisconsin. Maybe 860 00:45:14,360 --> 00:45:17,040 Speaker 3: you're gonna be just dragging a little bit on Sunday 861 00:45:17,080 --> 00:45:18,920 Speaker 3: because you're not that excited to get out of bed 862 00:45:18,960 --> 00:45:20,879 Speaker 3: and head to church. Maybe you're gonna be up late 863 00:45:20,920 --> 00:45:23,800 Speaker 3: watching games on Saturday night. As I bet I will 864 00:45:23,840 --> 00:45:27,759 Speaker 3: be Crocketcoffee dot Com will help power through your morning. 865 00:45:27,840 --> 00:45:30,200 Speaker 3: I mentioned Buck, I'm gonna be up at five am. 866 00:45:30,480 --> 00:45:32,040 Speaker 3: First thing I'm doing when I get out of my 867 00:45:32,040 --> 00:45:36,239 Speaker 3: bedroom is brewing the k cup of Crockett coffee to 868 00:45:36,280 --> 00:45:39,080 Speaker 3: take with me on my flight. That's my game plan 869 00:45:39,120 --> 00:45:41,920 Speaker 3: for the morning. How's the knee, by the way, Look. 870 00:45:41,760 --> 00:45:45,560 Speaker 5: At this, it's rough. I'll be honest. 871 00:45:45,920 --> 00:45:48,520 Speaker 3: You might need some coffee because you are having trouble. 872 00:45:48,520 --> 00:45:50,560 Speaker 3: You injured yourself playing tennis. It's hard for you to 873 00:45:50,600 --> 00:45:51,239 Speaker 3: walk right now. 874 00:45:51,520 --> 00:45:51,719 Speaker 12: I know. 875 00:45:51,880 --> 00:45:56,280 Speaker 2: And someone even told me maybe you should try pickleball. 876 00:45:57,719 --> 00:46:00,160 Speaker 2: I'd blessed. Have you ever tried? I've never tried it. 877 00:46:00,360 --> 00:46:03,160 Speaker 2: Every one of my neighborhood plays saying this is in 878 00:46:03,200 --> 00:46:05,680 Speaker 2: the in the in the racket sport world. If if 879 00:46:05,719 --> 00:46:07,880 Speaker 2: you are like a lifelong tennis player, which I am. 880 00:46:07,960 --> 00:46:10,000 Speaker 2: I'm not saying I'm very good, but you know I'm okay, 881 00:46:10,440 --> 00:46:14,759 Speaker 2: lifelong tennis player, and someone says try pickleball, Clay, this 882 00:46:14,800 --> 00:46:17,760 Speaker 2: would be like someone telling you stop watching college football 883 00:46:18,000 --> 00:46:20,360 Speaker 2: you should watch college lacrosse instead. 884 00:46:20,440 --> 00:46:23,920 Speaker 3: You're just like, what not totally different sport. Although I 885 00:46:23,960 --> 00:46:26,080 Speaker 3: have heard lacrosse is amazing and one of my kids 886 00:46:26,160 --> 00:46:28,560 Speaker 3: is playing, and Buck, this is the embarrassing for me 887 00:46:28,600 --> 00:46:30,839 Speaker 3: as a guy who played and talked about a lot 888 00:46:30,840 --> 00:46:35,239 Speaker 3: of sports. Last year, my seventh grader was playing lacrosse. 889 00:46:35,680 --> 00:46:38,120 Speaker 3: I had to pull out my phone and look up 890 00:46:38,200 --> 00:46:41,040 Speaker 3: lacrosse rules on Wikipedia. I had no I'd never been 891 00:46:41,080 --> 00:46:42,719 Speaker 3: to a game. I had no idea what was going on. 892 00:46:42,719 --> 00:46:44,840 Speaker 3: I might as well have been cricket to me. You know, 893 00:46:45,600 --> 00:46:48,279 Speaker 3: sixty years ago, my dad played college lacrosse. I don't 894 00:46:48,320 --> 00:46:50,360 Speaker 3: even know the rules, so I think it's got to 895 00:46:50,400 --> 00:46:53,239 Speaker 3: my blood. Kind of popular now, yeah, I don't know. 896 00:46:53,360 --> 00:46:55,839 Speaker 3: But to be fair to you, I mean, I don't want. 897 00:46:55,719 --> 00:46:56,000 Speaker 1: To take it. 898 00:46:56,000 --> 00:46:56,400 Speaker 3: It's funny. 899 00:46:56,440 --> 00:47:00,560 Speaker 2: It's cultural appropriation, as you know, guys wearing pink shirts 900 00:47:00,560 --> 00:47:03,239 Speaker 2: with the collars up taking it from the Native Americans. 901 00:47:03,840 --> 00:47:05,360 Speaker 3: I don't want to insult you, but I'm going to 902 00:47:05,400 --> 00:47:07,200 Speaker 3: do that to finish the week. I think your niece 903 00:47:07,239 --> 00:47:09,120 Speaker 3: so bad. I don't even think you could play pickleball 904 00:47:09,200 --> 00:47:12,200 Speaker 3: right now. Wow, I'm. 905 00:47:14,280 --> 00:47:15,799 Speaker 4: I don't think it's probably true. 906 00:47:16,400 --> 00:47:18,640 Speaker 5: Carrie Carrey keeps aging to me, can I go get 907 00:47:18,640 --> 00:47:21,880 Speaker 5: that for you? And I'm like, no, maybe have a Dibrican. 908 00:47:21,920 --> 00:47:22,840 Speaker 5: Everyone