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Speaker 1: Welcome to Stuff you missed in history class from how

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Speaker 1: Stuff Works dot com. Hello and welcome to the podcast.

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Speaker 1: I'm Deblina Choko reboarding and I'm fired douty and Lords

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Speaker 1: and ladies, thou art most fortunate to Lynnine is too.

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Speaker 1: I Lord Admiral, Duke of Suffolk, Vicount lyle Edmund Vandory

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Speaker 1: the third, at thy service. Thank you Admiral for joining

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Speaker 1: us today. We met the Admiral recently at the Georgia

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Speaker 1: Renaissance Festival, where Sarah and I went to kind of

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Speaker 1: check out the Renaissance scene and see what it's all about,

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Speaker 1: immerse ourselves and Renaissance culture, and so, Admiral, we were

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Speaker 1: wondering if you could tell us a little bit about

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Speaker 1: what you do there. Oh, certainly, certainly well, of course,

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Speaker 1: as Lord Admiral, I'm in charge of his Majesty's navy.

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Speaker 1: His Majesty, of course, being Henry the eighth King of England,

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Speaker 1: King of France, Defender of the Faith, Lord of Ireland.

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Speaker 1: You might have seen him. He's all all the coins.

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Speaker 1: Nice fellow, lovely fellow. He's also got a lovely wife

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Speaker 1: and Berlench she's got a good head on her shoulders

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Speaker 1: wonderful lady, and tis my duty to oversee his navy now,

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Speaker 1: of course, being King in the eighth his navy consists

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Speaker 1: of eight boats and a fish, so it's not terribly taxing.

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Speaker 1: Mary Rose too, we've discussed that one before, and Faith

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Speaker 1: named after his sister. Interesting. So what's it like to

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Speaker 1: work for the king? For King Henry the A, it's

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Speaker 1: mostly rewarding. His king is a very very rewarding king,

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Speaker 1: as long as you do not get upon his bad side.

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Speaker 1: You see, one day I sailed off from England, returned,

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Speaker 1: discovered that the entire religion at change while I was gone,

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Speaker 1: made a mistake of making a Catholic joke, and next

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Speaker 1: thing I knew, I was threatened to be about eight

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Speaker 1: inches shorter than I had started out. But everything turned

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Speaker 1: out well. So he's not very tolerant of He has

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Speaker 1: a threshold for certain subjects that you do not wish

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Speaker 1: to go. He might be listening right now, so you

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Speaker 1: might not want to say anything too critical of the king. Well,

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Speaker 1: we did get some different takes on the king also,

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Speaker 1: which we might share a little later on. Sarah and

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Speaker 1: I got to talk to a lot of different characters.

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Speaker 1: Well at the Renaissance Festival. We also checked out some

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Speaker 1: Renaissance music, some jousting, what else, Sarah, Well, we were

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Speaker 1: invited there by the Tortuga Twins, so we got to

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Speaker 1: see some comedy shows and um, yeah, just blacksmithing, all

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Speaker 1: sorts of things, and just a lot of people having

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Speaker 1: a very good time on a summer's day outside of Atlanta,

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Speaker 1: walking around in authentic costumes themselves or just like us,

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Speaker 1: plain clothes and having a good time. And we're the

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Speaker 1: ones wearing the normal clues. The one's wearing the outlandish costumes,

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Speaker 1: often having thy ankles upon for displaying Heaven's sake, and

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Speaker 1: even strange black boxes that we were carrying around true

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Speaker 1: a tape recorder with us. We stand corrected. We were

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Speaker 1: indeed the unusual one. So we're not done with the

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Speaker 1: Admiral yet. We're going to come back to him in

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Speaker 1: a little bit. But we did, as we mentioned, talked

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Speaker 1: to a lot of other characters at the Renaissance Festival

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Speaker 1: kind of um in our quest to find King Henry

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Speaker 1: the Eighth and Anne Boleyn. It was our quest an

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Speaker 1: unsuccessful one, unfortunately, although we did see them, we just

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Speaker 1: didn't talk to them. Yeah, we saw them from Afar,

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Speaker 1: but we really wanted to get the chance to talk

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Speaker 1: to them because we heard such great things about them,

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Speaker 1: such interesting things, I should say, but I have to say, Sarah,

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Speaker 1: I thought that one of the most difficult parts about

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Speaker 1: the Renaissance of us was just getting to everything that

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Speaker 1: we wanted to go to. Yeah, well, and that was

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Speaker 1: partly because we had a mission and we had certain

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Speaker 1: people there were just sort of taking it easy, muntion

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Speaker 1: people that we did run into, luckily, was the Friar.

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Speaker 1: We didn't intend to and we just happened upon him

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Speaker 1: he gave us some insight on a lot of things,

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Speaker 1: including religion, of course, which the Admiral touched on a

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Speaker 1: Here's what he had to say, What was your man,

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Speaker 1: Finnigan of the body of Bodacious bothers in brown Bohemian

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Speaker 1: Brethren that you may call me Friar. So how do

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Speaker 1: you know the King and Queen? Well, I have heard

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Speaker 1: rumor that King Henry is actually thinking of starting his

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Speaker 1: Can we bury it out? Don't tell the king. It's

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Speaker 1: quite well. Actually, the burials are going quite well. Yes,

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Speaker 1: it looks just like a big, huge cemetery out there.

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Speaker 1: We have grave stones with things like you know, Goldie

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Speaker 1: worry about making change. And how's the whole church starting things?

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Speaker 1: So far? So far, things are going pretty well. We

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Speaker 1: people here to read. To be honest with you, they

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Speaker 1: don't want to read the Bible. They don't want to

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Speaker 1: have to interpret Deuteronomy. I mean, really, who does. But

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Speaker 1: you can do that for them? I can, I can't.

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Speaker 1: I just don't know if they trust my opinion. I

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Speaker 1: would you trust my opinion and Deuteronomy? I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I find you pretty I can imagine you getting some

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Speaker 1: I'm afraid that they would. They would do that. I

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Speaker 1: do was check out some genuine Renaissance music. And we

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Speaker 1: we're bothly into music, but because music was such a

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Speaker 1: to hear some kind of music. Yeah, According to an

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Speaker 1: Department of Education. Though most of the important music of

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Speaker 1: and this was evidence in polyphonic masses and motets that

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Speaker 1: And here's what he told us. All of the pieces,

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Speaker 1: The moment segment? Dost not this seconds? So that was

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Speaker 1: And it definitely seems like the main attraction that Renaissance

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430
00:24:55,160 --> 00:24:58,840
Speaker 1: refill as soon as you possibly can. That helps a lot. Also,

431
00:24:59,000 --> 00:25:01,639
Speaker 1: just pacing your else, staying in the shade, just general

432
00:25:01,760 --> 00:25:05,240
Speaker 1: rules that you learn as a performer. Also, you learn

433
00:25:05,400 --> 00:25:07,720
Speaker 1: very quickly you don't want to go all out on

434
00:25:09,440 --> 00:25:12,600
Speaker 1: from opening gate through lunch because you'll be completely burned

435
00:25:12,640 --> 00:25:14,360
Speaker 1: out and you have nothing left for the second half

436
00:25:14,359 --> 00:25:16,879
Speaker 1: of the day because we're open from ten thirty in

437
00:25:16,920 --> 00:25:19,680
Speaker 1: the morning until about six thirty at night and you're

438
00:25:19,720 --> 00:25:24,480
Speaker 1: on that entire time. So temperature aside, what is it

439
00:25:24,640 --> 00:25:27,240
Speaker 1: like to be part of that world for that many

440
00:25:27,320 --> 00:25:29,680
Speaker 1: hours a day, for so many weekends out of the year.

441
00:25:30,000 --> 00:25:32,439
Speaker 1: On a good day, it's amazing. So on a good

442
00:25:32,480 --> 00:25:34,959
Speaker 1: day where there are a lot of people and they're playful, uh,

443
00:25:35,160 --> 00:25:37,840
Speaker 1: you get re energized by the fact that people will

444
00:25:37,880 --> 00:25:40,840
Speaker 1: play with you. Especially kids, they have no sense of

445
00:25:40,920 --> 00:25:45,200
Speaker 1: self consciousness. They buy into it being silly. They understand

446
00:25:45,240 --> 00:25:48,639
Speaker 1: it silly, but they love being silly, and the actors

447
00:25:48,760 --> 00:25:51,240
Speaker 1: love being silly too, So it really helps when you

448
00:25:51,359 --> 00:25:53,920
Speaker 1: run into adults who kind of have that that they've

449
00:25:53,920 --> 00:25:56,800
Speaker 1: built those barriers up where being silly feels like it's

450
00:25:57,000 --> 00:26:00,480
Speaker 1: not right. That gets a little more challenging. On slow

451
00:26:00,600 --> 00:26:02,800
Speaker 1: days or days where the weather is a little a

452
00:26:02,840 --> 00:26:06,560
Speaker 1: little rough, that can be the biggest challenge. It's not

453
00:26:06,760 --> 00:26:09,080
Speaker 1: the fact that you're out there in those conditions, it's

454
00:26:09,119 --> 00:26:11,639
Speaker 1: the fact that the audience is in those conditions and

455
00:26:11,680 --> 00:26:15,160
Speaker 1: they are less prone to playing a little grumpy yeah,

456
00:26:15,320 --> 00:26:17,240
Speaker 1: and so it means you have to work extra hard

457
00:26:17,280 --> 00:26:20,120
Speaker 1: to connect with your audience, and that is what is exhausting.

458
00:26:21,640 --> 00:26:26,440
Speaker 1: So in addition to costumes, um, what sort of historical

459
00:26:26,560 --> 00:26:31,200
Speaker 1: research goes into building your character. That's an excellent question too,

460
00:26:31,320 --> 00:26:33,879
Speaker 1: And again this depends very much upon the sort of

461
00:26:34,040 --> 00:26:37,240
Speaker 1: character you play. Let me go through the character building

462
00:26:37,320 --> 00:26:41,639
Speaker 1: process really quickly. It's pretty simple. So you audition, and

463
00:26:41,960 --> 00:26:45,520
Speaker 1: once you audition, the production staff gets an idea of

464
00:26:45,680 --> 00:26:48,440
Speaker 1: where you might fit within the hierarchy of the festival.

465
00:26:48,520 --> 00:26:52,680
Speaker 1: Whether you might, you know, you tend to skew as

466
00:26:52,800 --> 00:26:55,520
Speaker 1: more of a noble character or more of a peasant character,

467
00:26:55,920 --> 00:26:59,000
Speaker 1: perhaps one of the middle class. Uh. The idea being

468
00:26:59,080 --> 00:27:02,040
Speaker 1: that where would you be the most entertaining? So once

469
00:27:02,119 --> 00:27:03,840
Speaker 1: we figure out where you're in the most entertaining, then

470
00:27:03,880 --> 00:27:06,320
Speaker 1: we start to figure out what role should you fill

471
00:27:06,480 --> 00:27:09,080
Speaker 1: in the festival. And all of our characters are very,

472
00:27:10,119 --> 00:27:14,480
Speaker 1: very focused on specific roles, and you'll notice it immediately.

473
00:27:14,560 --> 00:27:18,320
Speaker 1: For example, the fashion consultant to the Queen is obsessed

474
00:27:18,359 --> 00:27:20,879
Speaker 1: with the color pink, and she ties pink bows on

475
00:27:21,040 --> 00:27:23,280
Speaker 1: anyone who stands still long enough for her to do so.

476
00:27:24,200 --> 00:27:26,480
Speaker 1: And you know, that's a that's a fun character trait.

477
00:27:27,040 --> 00:27:30,880
Speaker 1: So in that sense, you're really concentrating on the entertainment

478
00:27:30,920 --> 00:27:35,680
Speaker 1: factor first, and historical accuracy maybe fifth or six, it's

479
00:27:35,720 --> 00:27:38,480
Speaker 1: not even second. Really. Once you get to that, though,

480
00:27:38,560 --> 00:27:40,560
Speaker 1: you then have to start thinking, all right, well, we've

481
00:27:40,680 --> 00:27:45,080
Speaker 1: settled the year as fifty five, how would this silly character,

482
00:27:45,240 --> 00:27:48,800
Speaker 1: how would this character inhabit that world? Now, in my case,

483
00:27:48,880 --> 00:27:51,000
Speaker 1: I'm playing the part of a lord admiral. Now there's

484
00:27:51,000 --> 00:27:54,480
Speaker 1: an actual historical analog to that which I obviously could

485
00:27:54,560 --> 00:27:57,760
Speaker 1: not be because the Lord Admiral at the time of

486
00:27:57,800 --> 00:28:03,000
Speaker 1: five is Henry the hates illegitimate son who was a

487
00:28:03,080 --> 00:28:05,240
Speaker 1: teenager at the time and only lived to be about

488
00:28:05,680 --> 00:28:09,720
Speaker 1: fifteen or sixteen years old before he died, So I

489
00:28:09,920 --> 00:28:13,399
Speaker 1: can't pass for a teenage kid anymore. I'm in my

490
00:28:13,560 --> 00:28:16,400
Speaker 1: thirties and that that ship sailed a long time ago,

491
00:28:16,840 --> 00:28:20,280
Speaker 1: so there are certain things I have to sacrifice. And

492
00:28:20,359 --> 00:28:22,960
Speaker 1: it's always interesting when I run into people who have

493
00:28:23,320 --> 00:28:27,119
Speaker 1: enough historical background to ask me tough questions about the

494
00:28:27,320 --> 00:28:31,080
Speaker 1: actual roles that I play. So I've had people ask

495
00:28:31,119 --> 00:28:33,600
Speaker 1: me about Lord Admiral questions where they clearly knew their

496
00:28:33,720 --> 00:28:36,400
Speaker 1: their historical stuff, and I get to make up answers

497
00:28:37,080 --> 00:28:39,640
Speaker 1: or they know because I gave my character the titles

498
00:28:39,680 --> 00:28:43,719
Speaker 1: of Duke of Suffolk and the count Lyle. That's Charles Brandon,

499
00:28:43,800 --> 00:28:48,440
Speaker 1: who married one of Henry's sisters, Clandestinary. I had someone

500
00:28:48,600 --> 00:28:52,560
Speaker 1: asked me about that, so could you comment upon Henry's sisters?

501
00:28:52,760 --> 00:28:55,160
Speaker 1: I thought, oh, you're trying to trap me. The King's

502
00:28:55,160 --> 00:28:59,280
Speaker 1: sitting right next to me, so I very gently got

503
00:28:59,320 --> 00:29:03,280
Speaker 1: out of that before it became too big of a bit.

504
00:29:03,440 --> 00:29:07,440
Speaker 1: Because the King, the guy who plays the King is

505
00:29:07,520 --> 00:29:10,440
Speaker 1: sharp and he knows his stuff too, and he would

506
00:29:10,480 --> 00:29:13,960
Speaker 1: have no hesitation in bringing me in front of everybody

507
00:29:14,040 --> 00:29:20,880
Speaker 1: and punishing Oh dear, Yeah, they cut my beard off

508
00:29:20,920 --> 00:29:23,520
Speaker 1: in front of everybody and vanished from from the kingdom. Yeah,

509
00:29:23,560 --> 00:29:27,160
Speaker 1: I noticed that the beads are gone. Um. It's funny though.

510
00:29:27,240 --> 00:29:29,800
Speaker 1: You know, we were talking about historical and accuracies with

511
00:29:29,880 --> 00:29:32,720
Speaker 1: you earlier too, and I wondered if you would just

512
00:29:32,800 --> 00:29:34,800
Speaker 1: go over some of those and then go over yeah.

513
00:29:35,000 --> 00:29:38,680
Speaker 1: I mean, how often do do people call things out too?

514
00:29:38,800 --> 00:29:41,200
Speaker 1: I mean that's you're talking about people who clearly know

515
00:29:41,320 --> 00:29:43,640
Speaker 1: their history. But do people ever come up to you

516
00:29:43,760 --> 00:29:47,080
Speaker 1: with just random things about the festival that they consider inaccurate?

517
00:29:47,960 --> 00:29:53,280
Speaker 1: Teenagers are really good about that, teenagers or just just

518
00:29:53,600 --> 00:29:55,680
Speaker 1: they just like to They just like to try and

519
00:29:56,200 --> 00:29:59,440
Speaker 1: push your buttons, so they'll point out, for first of all,

520
00:29:59,440 --> 00:30:01,840
Speaker 1: all the food to the festival. I mean you're talking

521
00:30:01,920 --> 00:30:04,440
Speaker 1: about food that is not period at all, and you

522
00:30:04,480 --> 00:30:10,040
Speaker 1: would period or potatoes which have made their way back

523
00:30:10,080 --> 00:30:13,520
Speaker 1: to England yet or tea tea is not that's you know,

524
00:30:13,600 --> 00:30:15,840
Speaker 1: people think about it. The Queen loves her tea despite

525
00:30:15,840 --> 00:30:18,400
Speaker 1: the fact that it's a complete anachronism, or the fact

526
00:30:18,440 --> 00:30:21,240
Speaker 1: that will quote Shakespeare who was not yet really a

527
00:30:21,360 --> 00:30:25,479
Speaker 1: thing in not being born. Uh, there are a lot

528
00:30:25,560 --> 00:30:30,160
Speaker 1: of little inaccuracies. And again the focus of the festival

529
00:30:30,240 --> 00:30:34,080
Speaker 1: is entertainment, not education or historical accuracy. That's why we

530
00:30:34,840 --> 00:30:37,560
Speaker 1: we have this love hate relationship with the Society of

531
00:30:37,600 --> 00:30:42,120
Speaker 1: Creative Anachronism, which is a nonprofit organization that's all dedicated

532
00:30:42,120 --> 00:30:45,240
Speaker 1: about educating about the Middle Ages up to the Renaissance,

533
00:30:45,520 --> 00:30:48,440
Speaker 1: and including some stuff in the Renaissance as well. And

534
00:30:48,720 --> 00:30:50,560
Speaker 1: they kind of look down their nose at us and

535
00:30:51,080 --> 00:30:54,440
Speaker 1: the some some of them anyway, and the response is

536
00:30:54,560 --> 00:30:57,520
Speaker 1: essentially this is really it's it's entertainment first, and we

537
00:30:57,600 --> 00:31:02,040
Speaker 1: do not pretend otherwise. It is a Renaissance themed entertainment venue.

538
00:31:02,720 --> 00:31:07,200
Speaker 1: And uh. And so the food definitely not period. A

539
00:31:07,280 --> 00:31:09,920
Speaker 1: lot of the costumes aren't as well. I went early

540
00:31:10,040 --> 00:31:11,840
Speaker 1: with mine, so I felt like I was all right,

541
00:31:12,480 --> 00:31:15,160
Speaker 1: although I did wear a cavalier hat, which was well

542
00:31:15,240 --> 00:31:18,200
Speaker 1: outside the period of Henry the Eighth. But a lot

543
00:31:18,240 --> 00:31:20,960
Speaker 1: of the queen's dresses and her ladies in waiting they

544
00:31:21,080 --> 00:31:25,280
Speaker 1: had bum rolls which were not really used in in

545
00:31:25,920 --> 00:31:30,560
Speaker 1: female costume. Female clothing until almost a hundred years after

546
00:31:30,840 --> 00:31:33,680
Speaker 1: when the festival is set. But it's an idea of

547
00:31:33,840 --> 00:31:37,720
Speaker 1: creating this picture that people think of when they think Renaissance,

548
00:31:38,280 --> 00:31:41,000
Speaker 1: the Renaissance and sort of I guess, almost combining the

549
00:31:41,160 --> 00:31:44,400
Speaker 1: whole long period of the Renaissance until one day and

550
00:31:44,480 --> 00:31:48,440
Speaker 1: you'll see you'll see who would have who had been

551
00:31:48,480 --> 00:31:53,480
Speaker 1: dead almost almost two decades by then. Yeah, he's very

552
00:31:53,560 --> 00:31:56,760
Speaker 1: lively for a corpse um. Uh, yeah, I know, he's

553
00:31:56,840 --> 00:31:58,800
Speaker 1: he's great. The actor who plays him as great. And

554
00:31:59,600 --> 00:32:02,360
Speaker 1: and you'd also see things like you'd see people wearing

555
00:32:02,480 --> 00:32:05,400
Speaker 1: costume from different parts of the world and in different eras,

556
00:32:05,760 --> 00:32:09,280
Speaker 1: so it's not just the Renaissance of England that is represented.

557
00:32:09,320 --> 00:32:12,959
Speaker 1: You'll see clothing that is more Italian and a lot

558
00:32:13,040 --> 00:32:17,080
Speaker 1: of belly dance coin skirt yeah, very popular. Okay. So

559
00:32:17,200 --> 00:32:19,560
Speaker 1: that being said, there is an educational aspect to the

560
00:32:19,640 --> 00:32:22,400
Speaker 1: festival too though, right. Yeah. We have a student Day

561
00:32:22,520 --> 00:32:25,400
Speaker 1: every year, uh, and this is a day when when

562
00:32:25,520 --> 00:32:29,320
Speaker 1: schools can send bus loads of students to the festival

563
00:32:29,840 --> 00:32:32,840
Speaker 1: and we have a series of shows that are very

564
00:32:32,920 --> 00:32:36,840
Speaker 1: much educational where we talk about historical events. There's one

565
00:32:36,920 --> 00:32:39,640
Speaker 1: that's about the wives of Henry the eighth, and they

566
00:32:39,720 --> 00:32:43,840
Speaker 1: give a quick rundown of all the different wives their fates.

567
00:32:44,360 --> 00:32:47,080
Speaker 1: Why why did Henry the eighth have that many wives?

568
00:32:47,160 --> 00:32:50,160
Speaker 1: What happened each one? Uh? And uh. There's also a

569
00:32:50,200 --> 00:32:53,080
Speaker 1: little fun in that, and of cleaves is traditionally played

570
00:32:53,120 --> 00:32:57,320
Speaker 1: by a man um, but you know there there's that.

571
00:32:57,560 --> 00:33:02,719
Speaker 1: There's also a sentation that's all about superstitions during the Renaissance.

572
00:33:03,400 --> 00:33:07,120
Speaker 1: There's one on the manners and mannerisms of people during

573
00:33:07,160 --> 00:33:11,200
Speaker 1: the Renaissance, talking about the various customs and why they

574
00:33:11,320 --> 00:33:13,320
Speaker 1: are the way they are and why some of the

575
00:33:13,360 --> 00:33:16,000
Speaker 1: things we do today are related to what went on

576
00:33:16,040 --> 00:33:20,200
Speaker 1: in the Renaissance. So there is an educational part of

577
00:33:20,240 --> 00:33:24,680
Speaker 1: the Renaissance Festival, But on a typical Renaissance festival day, uh,

578
00:33:25,000 --> 00:33:27,480
Speaker 1: it's not as big a role. Although we have people

579
00:33:27,520 --> 00:33:29,760
Speaker 1: come in and ask us questions. The King and Queen

580
00:33:29,880 --> 00:33:33,480
Speaker 1: have their own little throne room area and they're there

581
00:33:33,560 --> 00:33:35,520
Speaker 1: throughout the day at different parts of the day, and

582
00:33:35,640 --> 00:33:37,960
Speaker 1: we often have people come in and ask us questions then,

583
00:33:38,160 --> 00:33:40,360
Speaker 1: and we're more than happy to answer them to the

584
00:33:40,400 --> 00:33:42,640
Speaker 1: best of our ability. And that's one thing again that

585
00:33:42,800 --> 00:33:45,760
Speaker 1: the King and Queen are very good at they remember

586
00:33:45,880 --> 00:33:49,880
Speaker 1: who remembers more about different sections? Oh Lord, Admiral, why

587
00:33:49,920 --> 00:33:51,800
Speaker 1: do you not answer that question? It would be most

588
00:33:51,880 --> 00:33:57,080
Speaker 1: happy to address this issue nicely. You don't refuse the

589
00:33:57,160 --> 00:33:59,640
Speaker 1: king ever, right never. You never know. You make it

590
00:33:59,720 --> 00:34:02,000
Speaker 1: up if you don't know it. If you make it

591
00:34:02,080 --> 00:34:05,280
Speaker 1: up and you make it silly enough, people will buy it. Right. Well,

592
00:34:05,800 --> 00:34:08,600
Speaker 1: we were talking to the Tortuga twins actually a little bit,

593
00:34:08,640 --> 00:34:10,040
Speaker 1: and they were telling us some of the things that

594
00:34:10,160 --> 00:34:12,600
Speaker 1: kids are surprised to learn on those student days. Where

595
00:34:12,920 --> 00:34:14,880
Speaker 1: is there anything that you think is kind of shocking

596
00:34:14,920 --> 00:34:19,359
Speaker 1: that people don't know when they come in? Um? Yeah, yeah,

597
00:34:21,440 --> 00:34:25,279
Speaker 1: there's a good example where one of the kids piped up,

598
00:34:25,840 --> 00:34:27,960
Speaker 1: uh and was a sort of a no at all

599
00:34:28,040 --> 00:34:31,960
Speaker 1: type kid, which I identify with immediately. That's my personality

600
00:34:32,320 --> 00:34:35,600
Speaker 1: right there. But this no, one would never say that. No,

601
00:34:35,840 --> 00:34:38,160
Speaker 1: but it's fine. I'm a self identifying no at all

602
00:34:39,440 --> 00:34:41,760
Speaker 1: but this but and I've also been in this position.

603
00:34:41,800 --> 00:34:44,359
Speaker 1: This was a no at all who had something incredibly wrong,

604
00:34:45,160 --> 00:34:48,120
Speaker 1: and so he was looking at Henry the Eighth and

605
00:34:48,280 --> 00:34:51,240
Speaker 1: had identified this is King Henry the Eighth and pipes

606
00:34:51,320 --> 00:34:56,279
Speaker 1: up with where's Marie Antoinette? Yes, and whereupon I got

607
00:34:56,320 --> 00:34:59,960
Speaker 1: actually watched Henry the Eighth as an actor named John

608
00:35:00,040 --> 00:35:02,919
Speaker 1: on I watched John's face turn about eight Shades of Red,

609
00:35:03,480 --> 00:35:07,560
Speaker 1: where he finally was able to formulate a response that

610
00:35:07,880 --> 00:35:12,280
Speaker 1: had no inappropriate language in it and explain that that's

611
00:35:12,600 --> 00:35:15,719
Speaker 1: not the right time period right, not the right time period,

612
00:35:15,800 --> 00:35:19,360
Speaker 1: not the right country, and that the young person should

613
00:35:19,440 --> 00:35:22,000
Speaker 1: perhaps put down the iPad and pick up a book.

614
00:35:23,400 --> 00:35:25,720
Speaker 1: That was That was the end of his little tirade,

615
00:35:25,719 --> 00:35:27,440
Speaker 1: as I recall, Well, but we don't want to say that,

616
00:35:27,560 --> 00:35:30,680
Speaker 1: because maybe the kids should listen to the history podcast. Well,

617
00:35:30,840 --> 00:35:35,120
Speaker 1: that would also help Henry the Eighth may listen to this.

618
00:35:35,480 --> 00:35:38,200
Speaker 1: John I think has not picked up on this particular

619
00:35:38,280 --> 00:35:41,040
Speaker 1: podcast yet. So what are you going to do now

620
00:35:41,080 --> 00:35:44,239
Speaker 1: that you're retiring from the Renaissance Festival? How are you

621
00:35:44,280 --> 00:35:47,440
Speaker 1: gonna keep your Renaissance fixed going? I mean, I'd imagine

622
00:35:47,480 --> 00:35:52,160
Speaker 1: after all these years you've developed even healthier interest than

623
00:35:52,360 --> 00:35:56,319
Speaker 1: a typical English major would have in the Renaissance. Sure, well,

624
00:35:56,880 --> 00:35:59,560
Speaker 1: one is that it looks like I'm still going to

625
00:35:59,640 --> 00:36:02,000
Speaker 1: have a hand and at least in writing some of

626
00:36:02,160 --> 00:36:06,200
Speaker 1: the the scenario for the Renaissance Festival. Now the Georgia Festival.

627
00:36:06,280 --> 00:36:09,759
Speaker 1: We have sort of an over a story that progresses

628
00:36:09,800 --> 00:36:12,759
Speaker 1: throughout the day, and that story is something that you

629
00:36:12,840 --> 00:36:15,440
Speaker 1: can follow if you want to, and it's it's not

630
00:36:15,960 --> 00:36:18,799
Speaker 1: necessary for you to enjoy the festival. If you don't

631
00:36:19,000 --> 00:36:21,200
Speaker 1: encounter the story, that's fine, but if you want to,

632
00:36:21,239 --> 00:36:23,719
Speaker 1: you can follow along. I will still have a hand

633
00:36:23,760 --> 00:36:27,160
Speaker 1: in that, and I'll probably show up at least once

634
00:36:27,239 --> 00:36:30,239
Speaker 1: or twice to do a guest performance. And also, I mean,

635
00:36:30,280 --> 00:36:33,960
Speaker 1: I'm still I'm still an actor, so occasionally I'm going

636
00:36:34,000 --> 00:36:36,160
Speaker 1: to go out and audition for shows that may have

637
00:36:36,320 --> 00:36:39,560
Speaker 1: something to do with the Renaissance. I do love Shakespeare,

638
00:36:39,680 --> 00:36:43,200
Speaker 1: so I'll probably audition for more Shakespeare shows. Beyond that,

639
00:36:43,480 --> 00:36:45,480
Speaker 1: I think I will go as a patron and enjoy

640
00:36:45,600 --> 00:36:48,960
Speaker 1: my time there as in plain clothes and being able

641
00:36:49,000 --> 00:36:52,000
Speaker 1: to whenever I want. Maybe you'll break out the admiral

642
00:36:52,080 --> 00:36:55,400
Speaker 1: costume at one of our Halloween days in the office,

643
00:36:55,520 --> 00:36:59,920
Speaker 1: or's something maybe I think maybe I think I wore

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Speaker 1: I have no doubt about that. All right, Well, thank

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Speaker 1: great time at the festival. We had a great time

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Speaker 1: seeing you in your other element. It's uh, it's always

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Speaker 1: interesting to see people I know in my quote unquote

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Speaker 1: real life when they come in, especially if they don't

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Speaker 1: realize that we do try and follow very closely the

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Speaker 1: does that. Well, you know, I know you well enough

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Speaker 1: where the Admiral obviously you're visiting Royalty. Well, thank you

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Speaker 1: again Jonathan for talking to us, and um, we had

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Speaker 1: articles on the Renaissance, I don't think we do, Jonathan.

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Speaker 1: Maybe you'll have to create one we have. We have

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Speaker 1: I edited it. I should have thought of that. We

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Speaker 1: Jonathan will use this pictures animated picture of my head

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Speaker 1: email us let us know about Renaissance festivals that you

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