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<v Speaker 1>Hi, I'm Kate Berlan, I'm Jacqueline Novak.

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<v Speaker 2>And this is poog, an ongoing conversation about wellness between

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<v Speaker 2>two obsessive friends.

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<v Speaker 1>Two untamable intellects. This is our hobby, This is our hell.

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<v Speaker 3>This is our naked desire for free products. This is poog.

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<v Speaker 4>Today's topics looselie speaking, straw woman, digital blood, not a rabbi.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, this is huge.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if it's I think it might in

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<v Speaker 1>the print.

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<v Speaker 3>It's wrong in the print of Hollywood Reporter. Yeah, okay,

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<v Speaker 3>this is breaking news. This is only breaking news if

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<v Speaker 3>you've listened to four thousand episodes of Poog. But I

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<v Speaker 3>was reacting because Jacqueline has a gorgeous shooting Hollywood Reporter.

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<v Speaker 3>By the way, one of the photos I looked at

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<v Speaker 3>and thought it was me. This one, Yeah, I looked.

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<v Speaker 3>I looked at it quickly, and I was like, is

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<v Speaker 3>that me? Sometimes we really do look like but uh,

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<v Speaker 3>you look amazing. And the shoe were Marion Park or

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<v Speaker 3>Maryon Park and you tagged them here. But I just

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<v Speaker 3>heard the breaking news that Hollywood Reporter in print, they're

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<v Speaker 3>going to say that they're why a cell, which is unbelievable.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I think what they do is I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know how that happened.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, it's not your fault, and you've tagged them. But

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<v Speaker 3>I think it's actually kind of fun gossip for Mary

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<v Speaker 3>in Park to be like, no, they're not why, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>they're merry in Park and you can work and at

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<v Speaker 3>least online. Of course, online is where everyone. As we know,

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<v Speaker 3>print media is almost largely dead. Not actually, but.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, hello, okay, greetings, greetings, greetings, greetings.

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<v Speaker 3>I sent you a picture of my lunch and you

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<v Speaker 3>didn't respond.

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<v Speaker 4>I was wildly trying to chop wash and you know,

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<v Speaker 4>process this week's veggies because the new vegetable blocks from

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<v Speaker 4>Misfits Market.

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<v Speaker 1>Has arrived.

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<v Speaker 3>So I'm excited to.

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<v Speaker 4>Go after them for partnership because they've become part of

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<v Speaker 4>my household.

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<v Speaker 3>It's exciting being becoming boxes.

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<v Speaker 1>Down downstairs, huge boxes.

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<v Speaker 3>I can't wait for the week. I of course now

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<v Speaker 3>have a micro fix or macro fixation on macrobiotic. Obviously

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<v Speaker 3>I'll never become macrobiotic, but I became friends with a

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<v Speaker 3>man I have a new friendship in the sixties and

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<v Speaker 3>he's been macrobiotic for thirty five years. Yeah, and he

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<v Speaker 3>made me an unbelievable me so but like a chunky

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<v Speaker 3>me so STU Like.

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<v Speaker 4>It was like, remember the origins of our friendship, like

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<v Speaker 4>one of them food in my.

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<v Speaker 3>Teas what by the way, I've seen videos of myself

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<v Speaker 3>on the poog videos food and my teeth constantly, and

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<v Speaker 3>I was the other day, No, I think there was

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<v Speaker 3>more than one and I have I had this happen

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<v Speaker 3>the other day where I was like and I I

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<v Speaker 3>was saying this, I was like, has something changed with

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<v Speaker 3>my teeth because I've been flossing so regularly the last

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<v Speaker 3>couple of years, Like suddenly I get food my teeth more.

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<v Speaker 4>Like you're going too hard with the flass, Like you're

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<v Speaker 4>like the gums are receding.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't think they are violent, but thing.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, that's though, Like somebody at HQ needs to look.

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<v Speaker 3>Out for us for overflossing.

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<v Speaker 4>No, people cannot, okay, you cannot rely on me to

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<v Speaker 4>spot food in uh oh yeah in our teeth and

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<v Speaker 4>our videos.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not saying it's it's you. Okay, this is a

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<v Speaker 1>crazy looking at our producer. It's not it's literally not

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<v Speaker 1>her job.

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<v Speaker 3>No, no, no, I have to I have to throw

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<v Speaker 3>it under the butt and check umaboshi plum thoughts what

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<v Speaker 3>about them?

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<v Speaker 4>Mmmm?

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<v Speaker 3>I had this tea.

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<v Speaker 1>But I want to remember what macrobiotic is. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>it's I know.

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<v Speaker 3>And I don't want to be clear. Obviously I'm not

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<v Speaker 3>saying well, I'm pivoting to macrobiotic, of course not. But

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<v Speaker 3>I'm just all I'm trying to say is I want

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<v Speaker 3>to make soup.

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<v Speaker 4>But in the way that last week you were like

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<v Speaker 4>really trying to put a vegan crown on me, and

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<v Speaker 4>I was like im plant basing it.

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<v Speaker 1>And then I got a lot of comments foods plant based.

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<v Speaker 3>You got a lot of comments and people saying I

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<v Speaker 3>also am plant based and vegan does not. I don't

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<v Speaker 3>feel like vegan does apply to me.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, it's interesting because like some people are like almost

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<v Speaker 4>like so proud to not be almost like it's all right,

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<v Speaker 4>let me just try to get it right once because

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<v Speaker 4>it is killing me. It was like, it's like I

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<v Speaker 4>would never dare two weeks into an exploration claim.

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<v Speaker 1>You're saying, I do think it is a moral stance. Yeah, right,

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<v Speaker 1>must trust the listener.

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<v Speaker 4>And then but whole foods, I feel like you haven't

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<v Speaker 4>been hearing this whole foods plant based. No, I hear that, Okay,

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<v Speaker 4>So I mean, but that's that's that's now here. Like

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<v Speaker 4>last night, I had, you know, a pizza with a mariner,

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<v Speaker 4>a pizza with no cheese, and like, yeah, that was

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<v Speaker 4>not whole foods. It's processed that they're using flour. They're

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<v Speaker 4>using flour, okay, But right now in the home, I mean, Kate,

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<v Speaker 4>like I was about to drop some berries in a

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<v Speaker 4>smoothie to try to get them down quick, and I

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<v Speaker 4>was like, oh, eat it whole And that's not even

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<v Speaker 4>that's not even what I mean by that whole thing,

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<v Speaker 4>but separate issue, just the things that the alchemists done

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<v Speaker 4>be coming in the kitchen. I've been freed, okay, because

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<v Speaker 4>there's no pressure to be a chef because now that

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<v Speaker 4>I'm a nutritarian, Okay, it's all about how many nutrients

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<v Speaker 4>can I get in the bowl.

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<v Speaker 3>I told you, I'm so happy. I'm really happy about you.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm happy to be able to be eating rice and

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<v Speaker 3>beans with you.

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<v Speaker 1>I am you know how it's a slow move.

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<v Speaker 4>So ill go if the air one thing and cost

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<v Speaker 4>thirty nine dollars or whatever, and then I go, okay,

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<v Speaker 4>I'm making it in a home twenties. You know, I

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<v Speaker 4>don't my two smoothies or well you know, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>I mean Chris whatever.

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<v Speaker 1>But but but you know.

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<v Speaker 4>That salad I was making, like the Baja cabbage, okay

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<v Speaker 4>and whatever.

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<v Speaker 1>Then I make it home slowly, it's moving right in

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<v Speaker 1>the direction. Same with the beans. Okay. So I've advanced

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<v Speaker 1>now to soaking my own dry beans.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you don't have to soak them though you really

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<v Speaker 3>don't have to. You can boil them, you can do

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<v Speaker 3>just big pot. There's two communities. There's people that soak,

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<v Speaker 3>people that don't.

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<v Speaker 1>And and why do they soak?

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<v Speaker 3>To make them more to just to make them softer?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I think they say that, like that's bloat.

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<v Speaker 3>Hmm. We'll find we'll discover that later. I have a

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<v Speaker 3>new new hobby or what I miss, what I would

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<v Speaker 3>like to create a new hobby. Well, I was radicalized

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<v Speaker 3>yesterday because I was like, I am needing to really

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<v Speaker 3>do an Instagram detox because I've been falling back into

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<v Speaker 3>scrolling as we all do. But I had this kind

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<v Speaker 3>of moment of awakening where I was like, yeah, oh

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<v Speaker 3>my god, my life slipping away once again, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>felt it and was like life is about learning and connecting.

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<v Speaker 3>It's about connection and learning. That's all it's about. And

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<v Speaker 3>I fucked myself, like every.

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<v Speaker 1>Day scrolling is it's anti rest.

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<v Speaker 3>First of all, we think of it as sometimes I go,

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<v Speaker 3>I need done wind. It's anti rest whatever, and everyone

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<v Speaker 3>I know, everyone, I'm sorry, everyone's heard me talk about

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<v Speaker 3>this and whatever. But I'm thinking about getting really hardcore

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<v Speaker 3>to Shabbot the Sabbath. Not actually I mean I mean yes,

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<v Speaker 3>not in the sense of I'm actually going to be ok.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't really know the prayers whatever, but I just

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<v Speaker 3>mean Sabbath as a as a concept ritual. Yeah. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>well I'm reading that book of the Sabbath. It's amazing.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, that's probably what it is.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you're like.

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<v Speaker 1>I, I don't know where it's coming from. I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, wait, but what is the.

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<v Speaker 3>You would love it? Who's the guy Herschel? But he

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<v Speaker 3>was like a mystic, kind of Jewish mystic in his

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<v Speaker 3>whole thing the Sabbath Heschel. Thank you When I say Herschel,

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<v Speaker 3>Jesus Christ.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think it's gorgeous. It's gorgeous, said it.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's really poetic and gorgeous and it's very it's

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<v Speaker 3>perfectly paired with you know, drinking tea and not being

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<v Speaker 3>on your phone. You know, building a cathedral now, huh

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<v Speaker 3>that's Buber, that's Martin Buber. But but his whole thing

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<v Speaker 3>is building cathedrals and time. It's like, what the Sabbath is?

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<v Speaker 3>It's cool? H yes, and he's like and he's like,

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<v Speaker 3>hey everyone, well yeah, it's just the like rest is

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<v Speaker 3>an art, and of course you need a fucking day

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<v Speaker 3>where you don't work or talk about work, and light

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<v Speaker 3>no fire and by light no fire. Not only actually,

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<v Speaker 3>but you know, not instigating, you know, not grieving, not

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<v Speaker 3>talking about, not not getting in fights. It's also a

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<v Speaker 3>sin to be sad on the Sabbath.

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<v Speaker 1>Mmm, you know no, I was just thinking how.

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<v Speaker 3>On the tour it says that, uh, if even when

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<v Speaker 3>human life is lost, then you can't do it. That

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<v Speaker 3>doesn't even matter what the script, you know, like you

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<v Speaker 3>abandon everything to protect human life. That the highest and

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<v Speaker 3>the tour the most important thing of all is to

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<v Speaker 3>protect human life. We're saying, but yeah, it's.

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<v Speaker 4>Gorgeous, well, you know, classically speaking, and a Frisco kid

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<v Speaker 4>movie with Harrison Ford and.

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<v Speaker 1>Jane I don't know.

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<v Speaker 4>What's the Frisco kid? Just I panicked, Wait, hold on

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<v Speaker 4>what I'm trying to say? Yeah, Jean Wilder, Oh yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>Gene of course should or know.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's it's this movie and it's very important in

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<v Speaker 1>my household. My mother loves it.

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<v Speaker 4>And there's a dynamic where it's sort of a joke

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<v Speaker 4>that my parents are like them, Jean Wilder and Harrison Ford.

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<v Speaker 1>My mother's Jean.

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<v Speaker 4>Wilder, okay, And he plays a rabbi and and he's

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<v Speaker 4>trying to make it to a town where he's going

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<v Speaker 4>to be the new rabbi out west, and he pairs

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<v Speaker 4>up with this cowboy and they go on a journey.

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<v Speaker 4>It's fantastic, okay, But there's a part where the torah

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<v Speaker 4>gets like thrown in a fire and there's like this

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<v Speaker 4>shootout or something, and Jean Wilder's like running like to

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<v Speaker 4>get like no, you know, to get and he realizes

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<v Speaker 4>like after that he basically like kind of risked Harrison's

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<v Speaker 4>Ford's life. And so then they're they're they're at a

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<v Speaker 4>restaurant or a solution or whatever. I'm sitting there and

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<v Speaker 4>he's just he's so ashamed because he realizes.

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<v Speaker 1>What he's done.

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<v Speaker 3>Ultimate box for me to kill.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, he's like, he's like, so it's him and Harrison,

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<v Speaker 4>and he's like, my friend, you know, like I chose

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<v Speaker 4>the book essentially over my friend. And so he's going

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<v Speaker 4>over and over. You're going going, I am not a rabbi. Okay,

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<v Speaker 4>Like I'm no rabbi kind of mine, you know, I'm

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<v Speaker 4>not a rabbit. I'm not a rabbi, you know, And

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<v Speaker 4>like Harrison Ford's like, you're a rabbi.

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<v Speaker 1>You're a rabbi. You're like, okay. He's like, I'm a cheat,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm a horrormonger, and you are a rabbi.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh my god, amazing, And.

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<v Speaker 4>He like throws across the bread I'm getting wrong, which

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<v Speaker 4>was you know, it's a sin in my household.

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<v Speaker 3>But if you haven't seen The Frisco Kid, it sounds great.

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<v Speaker 3>We gotta do it. It's read the Sabbath and watch

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<v Speaker 3>the Frisco Kid.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>I've been having this thing again due to you know,

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<v Speaker 3>chronic anxiety or whatever or just a lot of anxiety,

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<v Speaker 3>and then also the phone and everyone talks about this.

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<v Speaker 3>I can't focus, but even watching a movie, why is it?

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<v Speaker 3>Why is it? Why is it easier to watch a

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<v Speaker 3>bad movie, like, for example, Doroy luck Club was on

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<v Speaker 3>the plane and I but then I also felt like,

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<v Speaker 3>oh am, I gonna be able to watch the whole

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<v Speaker 3>thing in a real way right now on this flight,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, like I wanted to save it for like

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<v Speaker 3>respectful viewing. Yeah, so I started watching the Psychedelic Sydney

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<v Speaker 3>Sweeney movie anything, But you haven't seen it's like, that's

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<v Speaker 3>what it is. There's no words, and I haven't finished it.

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<v Speaker 3>I have to watch it because I was I is it?

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<v Speaker 1>Is it?

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<v Speaker 4>I'm trying to say it's something. It's not respectful viewing, Like, yes,

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<v Speaker 4>it would be a movie. If I'm on the side,

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<v Speaker 4>what is it like? A movie or a film?

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<v Speaker 3>It would call itself a film, or it would call

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<v Speaker 3>itself a movie.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, yeah, yeah, it's not aiming for Oscar new you

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<v Speaker 4>know what I'm great?

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<v Speaker 1>Right?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh my god, of course.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean I literally know nothing about it.

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<v Speaker 3>Ye, yeah, it's.

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<v Speaker 4>I was imagining a Poog screening where you know, a

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<v Speaker 4>variety of things, but we stop it throughout whenever we

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<v Speaker 4>feel like it, We pause and talk and it goes on.

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<v Speaker 3>First, I texted you and you actually didn't respond, which

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<v Speaker 3>is fine.

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<v Speaker 5>Oh.

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<v Speaker 1>I responded by thinking about it, and this is my

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<v Speaker 1>respect because.

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<v Speaker 3>I texted Jack and said, because we've been getting some

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<v Speaker 3>really sweet dams from hag saying it's the tenure Interstellar.

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<v Speaker 3>I did an anniversary yeah, and so I was like, we

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<v Speaker 3>should host an Interstellar screening.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what.

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<v Speaker 3>I also but you when I watched last night, imagine

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<v Speaker 3>this last night making it a grony for myself and

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<v Speaker 3>my partner from a from an orange tree plucked from

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<v Speaker 3>the backyard. It's the peal made a coconut vanilla coconut

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<v Speaker 3>ice cream with melted Lily's chocolate shell on top. Lily's

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<v Speaker 3>melts really well, a freaking Drew Martin lavender joint. Two

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<v Speaker 3>hits and you're good. Really maybe four the cough Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>kind of a deep coughed fun before gotta have a

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<v Speaker 3>little fun in summertime. Turning on Annihilation, the film right

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<v Speaker 3>which I hadn't seen really having fun. I Annihilation also

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<v Speaker 3>again popular film that was not popular that was panned.

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<v Speaker 3>I believe across the board that contains huge themes and

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<v Speaker 3>it's a novel which I want to read. But if

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<v Speaker 3>it's about grief and it's about yeah, that every nothing

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<v Speaker 3>dies transform.

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<v Speaker 4>Camp as like I can't remember it, like I can

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<v Speaker 4>see a deer in my head like or something.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, Guinia Rodriguez giving a fucking amazing performance, by the way,

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<v Speaker 3>Natalie Portman, Jennifer Jason Lee. Yeah, there's a Thompson's in it,

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<v Speaker 3>and you know what it also is. It's like, oh

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<v Speaker 3>when cg I or when when affects age.

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<v Speaker 1>This is why practical is the only things actually.

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<v Speaker 3>And there is there's some cool practical stuff in it,

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<v Speaker 3>but there there are some effects. You're like, fuck, doesn't

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<v Speaker 3>giving anything away, but there is a monster that's genuinely

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<v Speaker 3>terrifying in a cool way.

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<v Speaker 4>Blood right now is suffering on TV from being digital,

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<v Speaker 4>and so so it's like, you know, guy's head like

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<v Speaker 4>you know, hits a wall or like it's usually the

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<v Speaker 4>bleeding out like you know, down on the ground, right

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<v Speaker 4>and then you know when the pool of blood forms

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<v Speaker 4>behind the head and you realize, like you know, you're

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<v Speaker 4>waiting to see if they're injured, and then the pool

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<v Speaker 4>of blood comes.

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<v Speaker 3>There's something profound about the constant digital blood that would

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<v Speaker 3>be if I were, if I were smart, Yeah, if

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<v Speaker 3>I were in grad school writing about contemporary longing in

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<v Speaker 3>the age of digital media. Yeah, it would be called

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<v Speaker 3>digital blood.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>Well it's a good it's a good title too, It's

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<v Speaker 4>a good book title. When blood becomes digital Yeah, no,

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<v Speaker 4>digital blow is better, definitely, and then and then no, right,

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<v Speaker 4>and then under it when blood becomes digital.

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<v Speaker 1>Is funny because like like deeply redundant, but like digital blood.

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<v Speaker 1>And then under it, under it is like is like

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just I have to play this out.

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<v Speaker 3>Also, I'm having the classic poog self protective urge to say, hey,

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<v Speaker 3>anyone from the team of anyone, but you was considering

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<v Speaker 3>my description of the film as somehow degrading. Please know

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<v Speaker 3>I'd love to be in the next film. We have

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<v Speaker 3>a mass contraction in the industry. Oh god, and making movies.

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<v Speaker 3>I want to be clear, and I fucking mean this sincerely.

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<v Speaker 3>Making movies is so hard. It's so hard to do

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<v Speaker 3>it at all. Is a triumph.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. First of all, you did not articulate anything negative.

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<v Speaker 4>And you know I don't allow for dissing actors on

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<v Speaker 4>of course, don't support it.

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<v Speaker 3>Of course, by the way I think Sidney Sweeney's.

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<v Speaker 4>Is Oh, I just mean in general, you're always safe

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<v Speaker 4>because she is and and because you know I imagine

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<v Speaker 4>if an actor was listening and you should like they

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<v Speaker 4>feel safe, they turn to poog as an escape, which.

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<v Speaker 1>Is what it should be.

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<v Speaker 3>My whole life work is about actors. Yeah wait, wait,

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<v Speaker 3>but I want to make make do brought them. I

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<v Speaker 3>want to get combo. I'm going to start doing unpasteurized.

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<v Speaker 1>Considering you know what. You know what I'm considering what? Well?

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<v Speaker 4>No, okay, I was watching this nutritionist interview another nutritionists,

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<v Speaker 4>both both of them wearing whoops.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, I just want to be clear. I know you can.

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<v Speaker 1>I need you to realize I've been thinking about it.

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<v Speaker 3>I would say not as a marketing brain. You literally

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<v Speaker 3>should stop plugging them so much. If you want the

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<v Speaker 3>full you know what, I mean, to give you a

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<v Speaker 3>taste of your own medicine. I think you're going too hard.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, if you want a partnership or something, yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Because you've mentioned it, you mentioned it almost every app.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, it's I'm trying to get you on.

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<v Speaker 3>It's gonna happen unless they come up with life changing cash.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, I'll pull back. I mean, but there's profit

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<v Speaker 1>to be had.

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<v Speaker 3>For sure, But let me have them. Let's go out

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<v Speaker 3>to sea first, because it can't be every app you

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<v Speaker 3>know what I mean.

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<v Speaker 1>No, it's fine.

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<v Speaker 4>I just feel like it's particular to the whoop because

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<v Speaker 4>like you hate the Whoop. I'm never irritated by my

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<v Speaker 4>like continually come up when it's like a life changing

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<v Speaker 4>device for me that like like people have.

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<v Speaker 1>Reached out and said it changed my life too.

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<v Speaker 4>So it's sort of like just like you're just like

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<v Speaker 4>not interested, do you know what I mean? Like, and

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<v Speaker 4>so you're like using my own medicine against me, like you.

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<v Speaker 3>It would be one thing that this was the second

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<v Speaker 3>time you've talked about it.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, if that's true, fine, I haven't felt like

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<v Speaker 1>it is.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, we haven't done huge interludes every year. I'm not

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<v Speaker 3>trying to suggest that's the case.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, it's like I don't even remember whatever. It's fine,

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<v Speaker 4>I just I won't bring it up. I'll just bring

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<v Speaker 4>the whoop affiliate. I mean, but wait, what are you

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<v Speaker 4>gonna say about the Whoop that I'm watching these two

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<v Speaker 4>So I'm I'm watching these two nutritionists, one interview the

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<v Speaker 4>other one.

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<v Speaker 1>They're both wearing whoops. I hold mine up in a salute.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, they're not even talking about it. It's just they're

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<v Speaker 4>not just there, okay and whatever. But but the reason

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<v Speaker 4>I brought them up is because one of them, this guy,

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<v Speaker 4>and I can't remember his name right now, but his

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<v Speaker 4>book is called The Proof Is in the Plants. Anyway,

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<v Speaker 4>he said, komba in the in the store is bullshit.

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<v Speaker 3>But yeah, it doesn't shock me.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean it's however, you're ready, like, like, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>the bacteria is dead, okay, if it's been you know,

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<v Speaker 4>if it's been stabilized. Yeah, yeah, okay, now this was great,

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<v Speaker 4>I go. But there have been some studies dead bacteria

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<v Speaker 4>might have some benefits, which makes sense.

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<v Speaker 1>I guess some of the other ones. You eat it.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, it's disgusting, but move on from it. But the

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<v Speaker 4>point is, if you want to do kombucha, I think

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<v Speaker 4>you have to. I don't want to do home, which

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<v Speaker 4>is literal hell.

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<v Speaker 3>You said kambo oh kambo honey, kambu seaweed, sweetheart, I

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<v Speaker 3>didn't combo to a to a literally thought pot of

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<v Speaker 3>beans like, I'm sorry. Instead of well, going along with

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<v Speaker 3>what I hope to be my new life, which is

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<v Speaker 3>gardening because I have a couple of raised garden beds.

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<v Speaker 3>They figuring it out, wanted to be doing stuff raised

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<v Speaker 3>garden bed compost. The fucking moral superiority I feel because

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<v Speaker 3>I'm letting my grass die. And I have a compost bin.

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<v Speaker 3>It's like through the roof.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay we First of all, I have one from goldun

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<v Speaker 4>but they disbanded. But there are some compost bins, not

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<v Speaker 4>exactly in my apartment's own thing, but not far. And

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<v Speaker 4>but then Chris and I went and looked inside it.

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<v Speaker 4>Pizza box.

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<v Speaker 3>I think that's technically okay because it's paper that makes sense, cardboard,

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<v Speaker 3>solid cardboard. Yeah, yeah, you serious.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean I think he saw some other trash in

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<v Speaker 4>there too. It didn't feel like the person was nailing it.

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<v Speaker 4>But you didn't see a single banana peeling.

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<v Speaker 3>Having And listen, you know, you know teach, you know

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<v Speaker 3>a company that I have paid through the nose for that.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm like a simple human ambassador because I love simple human.

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<v Speaker 1>Trash, I know.

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<v Speaker 3>And I used to go, oh it's too you know,

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<v Speaker 3>it looks too sterile. Oh sure, like, oh well guess

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<v Speaker 3>what they make incredible products. And I have the compost

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<v Speaker 3>caddy that's sitting on the cat on the top, and

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<v Speaker 3>there I am Chop Chop Chop Food's going in there.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like they feed it to your ear lawn.

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<v Speaker 3>Even crazier, we have a worm compost thing that we

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<v Speaker 3>haven't like started yet. We have to feed the worms

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<v Speaker 3>and get the worms or whatever. Okay, but the but

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<v Speaker 3>we have a worm literal in the ground compost thing. Wow, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>it's crazy. I mean, I was at home depot today.

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<v Speaker 3>Looks like I'm day Yeah. Yeah, yeah, camel pants at

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<v Speaker 3>home depot. Yeah, like their home depot is incredible.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I mean, I mean I live as a heterosexual,

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<v Speaker 4>but home Depot is really really important. Maybe I you know,

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<v Speaker 4>maybe that's by the way I was at home deep

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<v Speaker 4>But I don't mean to you know, it's not it's

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<v Speaker 4>not flattering to bring up stories of being recognized in public.

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<v Speaker 3>But I will say home depot today.

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<v Speaker 1>Blast.

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<v Speaker 3>And I was at home Deepot today and I'm walking

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<v Speaker 3>with this big thing that I'm carrying right to the car,

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<v Speaker 3>and I see this guy what I would describe very

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<v Speaker 3>like normal looking. Maybe this is what I like, white

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<v Speaker 3>guy in his maybe early fifties. Now I'm horrified he

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<v Speaker 3>listens to this and he's much younger. There's no way.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe he's like fucking twenties.

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<v Speaker 4>There was a man.

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<v Speaker 3>Why why talk about the form at all? Because we're alive.

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<v Speaker 4>I didn't ask that, did I? But thanks for turning

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<v Speaker 4>me into a straw woman. Okay, Okay, he's directing me

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<v Speaker 4>and then slicing me across the hip. Okay, so genius, Okay,

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<v Speaker 4>why no, I.

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<v Speaker 3>What are we gonna say?

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<v Speaker 4>It's simply to be described. I understand anyway. You know

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<v Speaker 4>who was Let me just say what it was.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm walking carrying this heavy thing into the parking lot

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<v Speaker 3>and this guy with kind of like a buzz kind

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<v Speaker 3>of short haircut like just was like excuse, like, oh,

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<v Speaker 3>excuse me or something. And my first instinct was like what, Like,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, I had almost this like which I don't

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<v Speaker 3>walk around with, like I actually believe that most people

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<v Speaker 3>are good and whatever, but I or I know that's

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<v Speaker 3>I'm actually being. I think I'm over. I think in

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<v Speaker 3>the story, I'm swinging more in that right so that

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<v Speaker 3>it becomes more stark the right, the reversal. But but

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<v Speaker 3>but basically I was like, what could he possibly be

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<v Speaker 3>asking me? Because whatever, he just was like I have

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<v Speaker 3>seen you live, I enjoy your comedy, and I follow

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<v Speaker 3>you on Twitter. I was like, oh my god, I

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<v Speaker 3>was like, follow me on Instagram, Twitter, Yeah, yeah, but

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<v Speaker 3>so sweet. He was like, yeah, you're really funny. You

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<v Speaker 3>know what's funny. He didn't say that. He didn't say

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<v Speaker 3>you're really funny. Don't imagine me. I'm just like do it.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like.

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<v Speaker 3>But but it was really sweet. I was like, unbelievable.

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<v Speaker 3>Imagine that the sun high in this guy me at

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<v Speaker 3>home depot sweating buying the Pure Lift. Every week. I

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<v Speaker 3>get more scared every week. I hope they're gonna send

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<v Speaker 3>send us a Pure Life.

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<v Speaker 4>I meant to be nearing right now. By the way,

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<v Speaker 4>have you noticed near has arrived? Oh yeah, I was

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<v Speaker 4>considering an unboxing.

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<v Speaker 3>But thank you t Nira for sending their laser wrinkle

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<v Speaker 3>reduction device.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's the one that you know. They were cute though.

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<v Speaker 1>They said something like if it hurts too much, like

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<v Speaker 1>go on a lower setting because you know, I was

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<v Speaker 1>like talking, we were talking on the podlast.

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<v Speaker 3>Once hit screen, you know yeah, and.

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<v Speaker 1>They're like, you know, they're not probably thrilled to have

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<v Speaker 1>that out there.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I need to get a silk pillowcase because I sleep.

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<v Speaker 3>I know I've talked about this, but I cannot give

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<v Speaker 3>up stomach, sleeping, the face smash into the pillow. It

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<v Speaker 3>just makes me feel so good. But I think I

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<v Speaker 3>need to be like you know, Nicole Kimman, as we know,

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<v Speaker 3>sleeps only on her back.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, if you're in your stomach, how do you Your neck

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<v Speaker 4>can't be in a good position. I know. Is the

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<v Speaker 4>classic necka is owl style just to the side right now.

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<v Speaker 4>Obviously I don't see the face sounded no, right, but

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<v Speaker 4>the owl the crank is the thing. But my concern

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<v Speaker 4>for you is that is up on a pillow, up

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<v Speaker 4>on a pillow, your face, because like just consider it

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<v Speaker 4>first straight down and then okay here, yay, right up,

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<v Speaker 4>okay to me clear. I mean it's like a night

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<v Speaker 4>where it's like how it's like how someone kills someone

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<v Speaker 4>in a movie, like yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>The two directional. I just think, but you have no

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<v Speaker 1>neck pain, so.

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<v Speaker 3>No, I think I'm okay.

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<v Speaker 4>I've been sweating in my sheets like a hound and

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<v Speaker 4>I want to sleep.

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<v Speaker 1>Eight Have you've seen it.

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<v Speaker 4>It's like this temperature controlled thing that adjusts to what

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<v Speaker 4>your body temperature is. It like adjusts to it throughout

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<v Speaker 4>the night. It takes your temperature.

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<v Speaker 3>What's in the bed a cooling system.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, heating and cooling.

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<v Speaker 4>And then they've got all these tennis players like and

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<v Speaker 4>they're like, up your sleep game, you know.

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<v Speaker 3>But well, by the way, but someone told me.

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<v Speaker 1>About actually someone uses it and loves it. I saw, Wow,

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<v Speaker 1>you saw what I mean?

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<v Speaker 4>I saw I allow the smile on a young woman's face

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<v Speaker 4>describing how it's the best thing that's ever happened.

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<v Speaker 1>Ear sleep, and they guarantee one hour more of.

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<v Speaker 4>REM not REM but the other one because you know

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<v Speaker 4>the other ONEATA or I forget ever. But maybe they

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<v Speaker 4>just say quality or something like that, but I'm pretty

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<v Speaker 4>sure it's like, I mean, sorry to bring up my

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<v Speaker 4>whoop again, but I see exactly. Yeah, Okay, how much

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<v Speaker 4>is light sleep, how much is m how much is deep?

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<v Speaker 1>And when it's happening? Okay, so I can track the

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<v Speaker 1>entire cycle.

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<v Speaker 3>How does it help you maximize sleep? Truly asking?

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<v Speaker 4>So you know, it's interesting you ask because the other

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<v Speaker 4>night I was like, Chris was like, what time sit

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<v Speaker 4>the alarm?

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<v Speaker 1>I need to consult my whoop whoop? Okay, and he's

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<v Speaker 1>like it's just he's like because.

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<v Speaker 4>He's like, well, you need to get up at eight regardless,

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<v Speaker 4>you know what I mean? Like like whatever time it

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<v Speaker 4>was that I had to get up. He's like, so

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<v Speaker 4>what is relevant about checking the whoop? He's like, it's

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<v Speaker 4>going to tell you get eight hours and you're not

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<v Speaker 4>getting eight hours. It's one am right now, right, And

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<v Speaker 4>I'm like, actually, it doesn't tell me I need eight

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<v Speaker 4>hours every time?

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<v Speaker 1>Okay.

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<v Speaker 4>Actually what it does is say, do you want to

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<v Speaker 4>perform tomorrow? Do you want to get by tomorrow, or

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<v Speaker 4>do you want to peek okay, and then you click

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<v Speaker 4>through those options and you see and it gives you

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<v Speaker 4>suggested time. So if so, I'm usually not really asleep

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<v Speaker 4>till like twelve thirty ish or something right like yeah, let's.

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<v Speaker 3>Say so midnight, that's probably where I am.

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<v Speaker 4>So sometimes it so it'll be like twelve, and it'll

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<v Speaker 4>like it won't now if I want eight hours and

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<v Speaker 4>I'm supposed to get up at you know whatever, it

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<v Speaker 4>shows me exactly the thing what will be in the red,

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<v Speaker 4>what will not, And then it'll be like it'll tell me,

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<v Speaker 4>like go to bed at one oh five, because it

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<v Speaker 4>actually is also valuing what my the time I went

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<v Speaker 4>to bed. A big thing for it is sleep regularity,

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<v Speaker 4>Like they show you how off you are, Like in

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<v Speaker 4>terms of when you slept each night, and ideally you're like,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, midnight to eight or you're eleven to seven

0:27:02.000 --> 0:27:04.480
<v Speaker 4>or whatever whatever, your thing is right and it shows you.

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<v Speaker 1>And so it's like encouraging me, like.

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<v Speaker 4>No, no, no, don't go to veget Usually you would

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<v Speaker 4>go to bed at one almost, So it's doing a

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<v Speaker 4>little bit of that.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, it's crazy, but I'm.

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<v Speaker 4>Lying there and I'm going all right, and it's made

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<v Speaker 4>me go, oh my god, like it's too late if

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<v Speaker 4>I'm going to get up and go to my workout.

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<v Speaker 4>Am I being realistic about the benefits versus the effects?

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<v Speaker 1>Like two am? And I'm going I'm going to be

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<v Speaker 1>in the red tomorrow.

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<v Speaker 4>Like so anyway, it says what your sleep debt is, okay,

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<v Speaker 4>and oh you you know, if you get bed a

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<v Speaker 4>little earlier night or whatever.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, da da da, here's your sleep debt whatever.

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<v Speaker 4>It's it's really specific, and it's it's not just you know,

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<v Speaker 4>it's measuring shit, and it's measuring it's my friend, you

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<v Speaker 4>know what I mean. Yeah, yeah, it's one of my

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<v Speaker 4>my robot friends that I have, including my therapist, my

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<v Speaker 4>CBT therapist, an AI therapist.

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<v Speaker 3>Wait oh, no, what do you mean, don't get a

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<v Speaker 3>real one. I'm completely and.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll do that too.

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<v Speaker 4>Therapy, Well, I'm joking, okay, I'm being I'm being inflammatory

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<v Speaker 4>again on purpose. But there's a cognitive behavioral therapy app

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<v Speaker 4>that is chat style and it is trained in cognitive

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<v Speaker 4>behavior therapy, so it can go, well, let's identify the

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<v Speaker 4>cognitive error, you know, and whatever. And it's almost to

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<v Speaker 4>me like a journal, like it drags me through the

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<v Speaker 4>equivalent of journaling what's wrong?

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<v Speaker 1>You hate me? You hate no?

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<v Speaker 3>No, we hate AI? I hate AI. I saw an

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<v Speaker 3>ad for AI. It was like, I'm sure we've all

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<v Speaker 3>seen it because I got a TV so yeah, and

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<v Speaker 3>it was like, how do It's like a it's like

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<v Speaker 3>a little ad about how don't be afraid of AI

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<v Speaker 3>and how to use it, and it's like, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>you can. I mean, it just ultimately sounds makes me

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<v Speaker 3>sound elderly. Then I'm like at this point chiming in

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<v Speaker 3>and being like, hey, I'm good's dark, you know. It's

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<v Speaker 3>like we know, but it's like, right, well, you know,

0:29:01.360 --> 0:29:04.040
<v Speaker 3>because it's like you know, because you can now say, hey,

0:29:04.160 --> 0:29:06.480
<v Speaker 3>how do I roast a chicken or whatever? Right, You're like, okay, sure,

0:29:06.480 --> 0:29:08.240
<v Speaker 3>it's kind of like an extrapolation of the Internet that

0:29:08.240 --> 0:29:10.240
<v Speaker 3>we already have, right, you know, I have this, this

0:29:10.320 --> 0:29:12.440
<v Speaker 3>and this what should I make for dinner? But that

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<v Speaker 3>I didn't realize because I had a friend kind of

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<v Speaker 3>keep me. It's just going to replace this entirely. There's

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<v Speaker 3>nothing we can do anyway, And of course not actually,

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<v Speaker 3>but it is over, and it's gonna be insane. Next

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<v Speaker 3>ten years are gonna be absolutely insane, that's all. And

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<v Speaker 3>it's it's so fucking over. It's a joke.

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<v Speaker 1>And and do you mean I hardly.

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<v Speaker 3>Know anything the art as usual? No, the arts. No,

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<v Speaker 3>it's of course we're always gonna need human.

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<v Speaker 4>Right, I mean that's like to me, that's like whatever

0:29:43.200 --> 0:29:45.760
<v Speaker 4>the thing is like, but like it's it's it's it's

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<v Speaker 4>it's gonna.

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<v Speaker 1>Live more valuable than ever.

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<v Speaker 3>But no, no, I mean, hell, I'm clinging to that

0:29:50.200 --> 0:29:52.040
<v Speaker 3>for dear life. And I do also believe that people

0:29:52.080 --> 0:29:54.800
<v Speaker 3>are always gonna want people are going to be able

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<v Speaker 3>to actually know. I was gonna say, people all tell

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<v Speaker 3>the difference, not really sometimes, but I mean, have you

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<v Speaker 3>ever had have you liked typed? I just recently typed

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<v Speaker 3>into chat JBAT what is it called GBT.

0:30:07.160 --> 0:30:10.920
<v Speaker 1>I struggle with It's.

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<v Speaker 3>It's like, have you done that, like tried to have

0:30:11.280 --> 0:30:12.520
<v Speaker 3>it write something for you?

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<v Speaker 4>No, but I've I've done all manner of AI stuff

0:30:17.200 --> 0:30:21.880
<v Speaker 4>in these other various like apps. So now there's like

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<v Speaker 4>an AI function in almost every new piece of software

0:30:25.400 --> 0:30:30.560
<v Speaker 4>that I download Oka and I download software check one. Okay,

0:30:30.600 --> 0:30:34.240
<v Speaker 4>So I'm like downloading these document management kind of apps

0:30:34.320 --> 0:30:36.960
<v Speaker 4>or these you know, writing apps that are like you know,

0:30:37.080 --> 0:30:39.720
<v Speaker 4>like Scrivener. Okay, they don't actually have anything AI, and

0:30:39.760 --> 0:30:42.720
<v Speaker 4>I don't think, but always trying to manage all the

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<v Speaker 4>words and have everything be tagged and searchable and you know,

0:30:46.160 --> 0:30:48.640
<v Speaker 4>all the writing and whatever and all these different ones

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<v Speaker 4>they have a lot of highlight the thing, and then

0:30:51.720 --> 0:30:54.000
<v Speaker 4>there's a little assistant and it says like you know,

0:30:54.040 --> 0:30:56.160
<v Speaker 4>and you can have it do something. So I'll do

0:30:56.360 --> 0:30:58.920
<v Speaker 4>like I have fully, you know, I've had these moments

0:30:59.000 --> 0:31:01.360
<v Speaker 4>of like okay, guy is gonna save me, Like it's

0:31:01.360 --> 0:31:05.600
<v Speaker 4>gonna save me, Like okay, like here is thirty pages

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<v Speaker 4>like tell me like what I say and what I say,

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<v Speaker 4>and then it summarizes like and sometimes it'll be like yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>I'm like I did communicate enough that the robot understood. Well,

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<v Speaker 4>here's an interesting thing. I've played with it, like, are

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<v Speaker 4>you trying something? I'm trying to not keep eating going

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<v Speaker 4>while you're doing it. I get why you want that.

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<v Speaker 4>You want the steady stream of my voice flowing into

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<v Speaker 4>your ear?

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, but.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay. Podcast between two best friends discussing wellness, am beuity

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<v Speaker 3>through a comedic lens that is also existential at times?

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<v Speaker 1>Wait? Did you just compose that because it's just familiar?

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<v Speaker 3>No, I just wrote that.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay?

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<v Speaker 3>Here could the title laugh Lines Beauty, Wellness and the

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<v Speaker 3>Meaning of Mescara? Host one, Welcome back to another episode

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<v Speaker 3>of laugh Lines.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh wait, this is, by the way, send me the scriptat.

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<v Speaker 3>Laughlines. Is it came up with that?

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<v Speaker 4>That is?

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<v Speaker 3>By that you could pitch that? Okay, wait, let me

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<v Speaker 3>drop into where's the chat? Okay, here, I'll start. Wait, wait,

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<v Speaker 3>but where is it? It's in text?

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<v Speaker 4>Oh? Okay, hold on, hold on, hold on, okay, all right,

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<v Speaker 4>all right, all right, Welcome back to another episode of

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<v Speaker 4>laugh Lines, where we explore duty, wellness, and the cosmos

0:32:45.800 --> 0:32:47.360
<v Speaker 4>to the lens of two best friends who are just

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<v Speaker 4>trying to figure.

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<v Speaker 3>It all out.

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<v Speaker 4>That's right, I'm Jacqueline and I'm Kate, and today we're

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<v Speaker 4>diving deep into the existential crisis that comes with choosing

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<v Speaker 4>the perfect shade of lipstick.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, the struggle.

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<v Speaker 1>No, No, let's doing it not in the cheese voice.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, let's try to force it into Okay, great, our

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<v Speaker 4>actual conversational voice without changing any words.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, So I'm going to go into my life that

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<v Speaker 3>comes after that. Yeah, Oh, the struggle is real. You know,

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<v Speaker 3>there's a whole universe of options out there, and each

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<v Speaker 3>one comes with its own philosophical implications.

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<v Speaker 1>Absolutely, It's like, do I go for the bull rett

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<v Speaker 1>and you know, embrace my inner warrior or I stick

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<v Speaker 1>with a subtle pink and channel my zen vibes.

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<v Speaker 3>Too, but still can't Bringing in safe still doesn't work.

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<v Speaker 3>And let's not forget the skincare betwine that takes longer

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<v Speaker 3>than a Netflix series to finish.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh, don't get me started on that. I mean, it's

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<v Speaker 4>like a nightly ritual of hope and mofstreizer.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh I hate that.

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<v Speaker 3>Speaking of rituals, have you tried the new face mask?

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<v Speaker 3>The promises to make you look ten years younger?

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<v Speaker 1>Ten years younger. I'll take two please.

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<v Speaker 3>But seriously, isn't it fascinating how our pursuit of beauty

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<v Speaker 3>and wellness intersects with our deeper questions about existence?

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<v Speaker 4>Absolutely, like what does it mean to glow from within?

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<v Speaker 4>And how many green smoothies does it take to achieve enlightenment?

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<v Speaker 3>And let's not forget the existential dread that sets in

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<v Speaker 3>when you realize you forgot to wear sunscreen.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh, the struggle is real, but hey, at least run

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<v Speaker 4>it together, navigating this maze of face serums and face palms.

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<v Speaker 3>That's right, because the end of the day, whether we're

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<v Speaker 3>pondering the meaning of life or the best contry and techniques,

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<v Speaker 3>laughter is always the best highlighter. Preach sister, thanks for

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<v Speaker 3>tuning in to another episode of laugh Lines. Join us

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<v Speaker 3>next time as we continue our quest for beauty, wellness,

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<v Speaker 3>and the occasional existential crisis.

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<v Speaker 4>Until then, remember, stay fabulous, stay curious, and always remember

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<v Speaker 4>to blend your foundation down your neck.

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<v Speaker 1>Bye bye.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean that's insane. So but the problem with that,

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<v Speaker 3>that's no, Let me adjust it. What do you want

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<v Speaker 3>to tell them?

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<v Speaker 1>That's it? They?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, let's give it direct notes.

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<v Speaker 1>Let me hear your what was your original.

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<v Speaker 3>Prompt a podcast between two best friends discussing wellness and

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<v Speaker 3>beauty through comedic lens that is also exis potential at times.

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<v Speaker 4>Right, so like a podcast that is sort of confusing

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<v Speaker 4>because it's like, is this so like.

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<v Speaker 3>How do you more conversational?

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<v Speaker 1>I know what it's going to do?

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<v Speaker 3>Include references to the great thinkers?

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<v Speaker 1>How about like and look how fast? Don't hear?

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<v Speaker 4>We use?

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<v Speaker 3>We got the new one?

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<v Speaker 1>All right, send it.

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<v Speaker 3>This one is called Beauty, Wellness and Philosophical BFFs. Wait,

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<v Speaker 3>hang on, hand on Okay, sorry, got it? Go so fast,

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<v Speaker 3>it's already done.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, wait, well that yeah, yeah, there's something really interesting

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<v Speaker 4>about realizing that it doesn't require elapsement in time.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, hey there, welcome back to another episode of Beauty,

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<v Speaker 3>Wellness and Philosophical BFFs. I mean, that's a bad title,

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<v Speaker 3>but I'm Kate.

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<v Speaker 4>And I'm Jacqueline. You're a partner in existential beauty crises.

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<v Speaker 4>Today we're diving into the deep end of skincare and

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<v Speaker 4>the meaning of life.

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<v Speaker 3>Absolutely, because what better way to ponder the universe than

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<v Speaker 3>while applying sheet mask?

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<v Speaker 1>You know it? I mean Socrates might have said no thyself,

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<v Speaker 1>but I think he'd agree that glow thyself is just

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<v Speaker 1>as important.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, you could literally sell this to a shady

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<v Speaker 3>company for fourteen million dollars. I know, all right, keep

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<v Speaker 3>it going totally, and to Kart. I think therefore I

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<v Speaker 3>am glowing exactly.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm pretty sure he never had to decide between I

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<v Speaker 4>cream and more sleep.

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<v Speaker 3>And don't get me started on Nietzsche. What doesn't kill

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<v Speaker 3>you makes you stronger? But does it also make you

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<v Speaker 3>more radiant? Nietzsche said, what doesn't.

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<v Speaker 1>Kill you make a stronger question?

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<v Speaker 4>I know, sorry, I think so, but like not not

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<v Speaker 4>actually okay, it was I think it was contextual. He

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<v Speaker 4>was trying to actually come down to those phrase.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that phrase. I think he'd approve of our quest

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<v Speaker 1>for the perfect shade of lipstick, though.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, for sure, it's all about embracing the inner uber

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<v Speaker 3>mensh one lip liner at a time.

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<v Speaker 1>And let's not forget Kureker Guard.

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<v Speaker 4>Sometimes deciding on a facewash feels like making an ex

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<v Speaker 4>essential leap of faith.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, okay, so this one sucks more, but absolutely to Foremer,

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<v Speaker 3>not to film, that's the question.

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<v Speaker 4>And cam I mean, this is like you're giving him

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<v Speaker 4>a Camu. The absurdity of life is matched only by

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<v Speaker 4>the absidity of try trying to blend conjuring. I mean

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<v Speaker 4>this is like the worst demgation of AI we've seen.

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<v Speaker 3>No, that's bad.

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<v Speaker 1>I just mean, like it's kind of interesting. Like to me,

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<v Speaker 1>it's like.

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<v Speaker 3>I just said, I just said, make it fun I.

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<v Speaker 1>Mean, doesn't GBT thy'll have like real ship in there,

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<v Speaker 1>Like back to you could write, like, wait, what.

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<v Speaker 3>Laugh lines is genius? I said make it funnier, and

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<v Speaker 3>they came back with something that's anyway.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean I think.

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<v Speaker 4>Like, well, for one, I think jud GBT you can

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<v Speaker 4>write in like write Caperlin and Jacqueline okay, like doing whatever, I.

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<v Speaker 1>Know, discuss whatever.

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<v Speaker 3>So I'm even more amateur.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean I'm a little afraid, like generate.

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<v Speaker 3>A dialogue dialogue between between Poop Pop Jacqueline Novac on

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<v Speaker 3>there between Pooh Poo.

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<v Speaker 4>Discussing Let's give it a topic, Yeah, great, Interstellar.

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<v Speaker 3>Discussing the film Interstellar.

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<v Speaker 4>And don't react until let me see it so we

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<v Speaker 4>can react together.

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<v Speaker 3>Don't Okay, Okay, I'm not. I'm just copying it. It's

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<v Speaker 3>going fast. Okay, here we go, let's read it live raw.

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<v Speaker 1>You gotta send it to me.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, hello, and welcome back to Pooh, your source for

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<v Speaker 3>all things existential and unexpectedly hilarious.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm Kate Berlant, and I'm Jacqueline Novak, your residents skeptic

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<v Speaker 4>turned philosopher skincare. Today we're diving into the cosmic depths

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<v Speaker 4>of Interstellar. Kate, what were your cosmic vibes after watching

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<v Speaker 4>this film? I hate the world and discuss Jacqueline, Interstellar

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<v Speaker 4>took me on a journey. It's like Christopher Nolan meets

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<v Speaker 4>a black hole and suddenly we're contemplating love across dimensions.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to know this is okay, This isn't like.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, oh my god, oh my god. No, no, no,

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<v Speaker 3>you say at one point, it's like no one was

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<v Speaker 3>showing us the cosmic ballet of particles and emotions, just

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<v Speaker 3>like finding the perfect serum. It's a delicate dance between

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<v Speaker 3>science and self care. It's like, that doesn't make sense.

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<v Speaker 3>Hans Zimmer. Hans Zimmer's score was like the serum to

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<v Speaker 3>my soul, stirring up emotions.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah see, I've never used jet literally and like, but

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<v Speaker 4>but but what I'm finding interesting is like I'm starting

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<v Speaker 4>to think chet GPT is there to be bad okay,

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<v Speaker 4>to to throw everyone off the scent of AI.

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<v Speaker 3>No, totally totally like because it's actually coming laugh lines.

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<v Speaker 4>Whoa, I'm just thinking about but I mean pure transparent.

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<v Speaker 4>And see I was I was sitting there going controlling

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<v Speaker 4>myself from telling you I could have come up with

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<v Speaker 4>laugh lines Okay, yeah, of course, I mean that's you could, Okay, going,

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<v Speaker 4>that's which. Of course I could, you know I could.

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<v Speaker 4>I literally was like jealous of you thinking that it

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<v Speaker 4>was genius.

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<v Speaker 3>Like I was actually think it's genius. I think that's right.

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<v Speaker 3>We would never Actually, it's just like it's so funny

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<v Speaker 3>because it's exactly responding to swim that there would be

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<v Speaker 3>a cultural appetite for which is a podcast called Laughlins

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<v Speaker 3>from two you know bitches. Yeah, like you could pitch

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<v Speaker 3>a podcast called laughlines to two actresses in their early

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<v Speaker 3>sixties and they discussed aging. Yeah, a comical.

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<v Speaker 4>Twist, that's a humor exactly, not taking ourselves too seriously. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>I mean that was just like plug in first half

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<v Speaker 4>of sentence, existential second half of sentence, like reference a

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<v Speaker 4>beauty thing and then jam them together syntactically. Yeah, like

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<v Speaker 4>that's what that was, you know what I mean, Oh yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>them faking the right the chat gb TV being like,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, throwing us off the scent of the real shit,

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<v Speaker 4>totally like that.

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<v Speaker 1>There was an article about this.

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<v Speaker 4>We talked about it, I think, but like it was

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<v Speaker 4>like everyone's like whatever, I can't go down.

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<v Speaker 1>It's it's too I'll get there eventually. I'll get there eventually,

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<v Speaker 1>you know. I mean, I don't. I don't know.

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<v Speaker 4>It's like I believe that art, Okay, if you're an

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<v Speaker 4>artist will always there's always it will always find a

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<v Speaker 4>way because it is it is an instinct that responds

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<v Speaker 4>to whatever's going on, right, I'm not saying I'm not

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<v Speaker 4>talking about obviously jobs industry.

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<v Speaker 3>Of course you're talking about the pure No, I know completely,

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<v Speaker 3>you know.

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<v Speaker 4>But but like you there's no circumstance where I believe

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<v Speaker 4>can't be an artist complete even if like no one's watching,

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<v Speaker 4>I mean you know what I mean, Like.

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<v Speaker 3>No, no, I'm not talking about the human impulse toward

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<v Speaker 3>that at all, or I was.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, no, and I know you weren't.

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<v Speaker 4>I just saying it for my own I mean, And

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<v Speaker 4>then there's the whole thing of like you know, and

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<v Speaker 4>I'm sure it's a faulty metaphor, but like, okay, the

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<v Speaker 4>second the cameras invented, painting become irrelevant, you know, No,

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<v Speaker 4>but painting as the way the way to represent accuracy

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<v Speaker 4>to you know, to re produce an accurate image.

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<v Speaker 3>Obviously like well this so that advent of photography. People

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<v Speaker 3>were raging against it because they were like, this is

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<v Speaker 3>literally going to replicate the known world, and we're not

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<v Speaker 3>going to have the real world won't mean anything anymore.

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<v Speaker 3>But by the way, that is what has happened. It

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<v Speaker 3>just took much longer, and that will continue to happen

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<v Speaker 3>and the roial world will always mean something, of course.

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<v Speaker 3>But the way photography threatened, you know, specifically painting, they

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<v Speaker 3>were like, this is going to if you can replicate

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<v Speaker 3>the world, then why would we have painters.

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<v Speaker 4>And never feels oh, actually now we really have painters.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean like like now I think there are like

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<v Speaker 4>now painters are having to say or or they did say, no,

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<v Speaker 4>you've missed the point. It was never about replication or

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<v Speaker 4>only replication. Maybe it was when you were a patron

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<v Speaker 4>of you know, the mediciese or whatever. Yeah, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>oh it's compelling what happened there? Right, completely, No, Like

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<v Speaker 4>I remember my grandfather, I've probably talked to this, but

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<v Speaker 4>like standing in like MoMA, like I used to sometimes

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<v Speaker 4>go with my like New York, you know, grandfather to

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<v Speaker 4>museums and you know he loved you know, shows me

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<v Speaker 4>like mona whatever. But but then we're like at MoMA

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<v Speaker 4>or something and having a discussion about like the canvas.

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<v Speaker 4>It's just like a blue square, you know what I mean.

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<v Speaker 4>And I'm like feeling like, no, it's it's meaningful. It

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<v Speaker 4>just fucking is totally of course, of course it is.

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<v Speaker 4>It's asking me to stand in front of the color blue.

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<v Speaker 4>It's doing a thousand things, a million all right, thank god.

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<v Speaker 3>The presence, the presence, thank god, and it shall never die.

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<v Speaker 3>But there also is an unmistakable yeah and as yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>we're not even talking about through the lens of like

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<v Speaker 3>capital or jobs. Just surely on like a base impulsive,

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<v Speaker 3>somatic level, it will never die.

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<v Speaker 1>Like it'll if they go, well, yeah, I can write

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<v Speaker 1>a story as good as you like.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, by the way, no you can't. But it's also

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<v Speaker 3>about what the appetite is, you know, it's like growing

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<v Speaker 3>appetite audiences being truly like.

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<v Speaker 4>Like animation didn't replace live action, right right, like in

0:44:29.800 --> 0:44:33.759
<v Speaker 4>terms of having value, like live action still has value.

0:44:33.920 --> 0:44:36.440
<v Speaker 4>And it's like it's like, but look, we can make

0:44:36.480 --> 0:44:38.759
<v Speaker 4>we can tell these stories by just having these you know,

0:44:38.880 --> 0:44:40.960
<v Speaker 4>these things move around whatever. And it's sort of like

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<v Speaker 4>or or things having value like provenance, you know, like

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<v Speaker 4>it's like the person attached to the thing and the

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<v Speaker 4>larger story of these people made this thing has value.

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<v Speaker 3>Of course, I like to think, I would hope, but

0:44:57.719 --> 0:44:59.319
<v Speaker 3>this is actually what's being threatened in no way that

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<v Speaker 3>I just actually I don't know anymore, but I would

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<v Speaker 3>like to think humans will be able to detect humanity

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<v Speaker 3>behind something, but we are going into territory where we

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<v Speaker 3>absolutely won't be able to. And that's that's like the

0:45:12.920 --> 0:45:17.160
<v Speaker 3>critical difference. And I do think, yeah, or just like this,

0:45:17.680 --> 0:45:19.919
<v Speaker 3>standing in front of another person, standing physically in front

0:45:19.920 --> 0:45:22.799
<v Speaker 3>of painting embodied physical existence, I think is going to

0:45:22.840 --> 0:45:27.799
<v Speaker 3>have more power now, or it's going to be going

0:45:27.840 --> 0:45:30.040
<v Speaker 3>to be sought after because the world is becoming so

0:45:30.800 --> 0:45:36.200
<v Speaker 3>rapidly digitized and flattened, and so we will always crave

0:45:36.239 --> 0:45:38.759
<v Speaker 3>that or want that, but it won't be the thing

0:45:38.800 --> 0:45:42.640
<v Speaker 3>of we won't be able to detect it. So right

0:45:42.680 --> 0:45:45.719
<v Speaker 3>now it's so you know, obvious and like it's so

0:45:45.840 --> 0:45:47.840
<v Speaker 3>crude still like the chat cheepy tee thing. This is

0:45:47.920 --> 0:45:49.440
<v Speaker 3>crude with it. But then now you know this is

0:45:49.480 --> 0:45:51.799
<v Speaker 3>happening with video stuff and the sounds. I mean, it's

0:45:52.120 --> 0:45:53.440
<v Speaker 3>not being able to tell the difference. This is the

0:45:53.440 --> 0:45:55.680
<v Speaker 3>truth and that's what's yea, and already we can't.

0:45:56.400 --> 0:45:58.560
<v Speaker 1>I mean, although I did start to wonder.

0:45:58.400 --> 0:46:07.719
<v Speaker 4>If okay, if you have a closed system Okay.

0:46:07.440 --> 0:46:12.120
<v Speaker 3>No, no, no, a robot was that a robotic foot?

0:46:12.239 --> 0:46:16.440
<v Speaker 4>My foot stepped on a vacuum vacuum cleaner and it

0:46:16.520 --> 0:46:16.880
<v Speaker 4>turned on.

0:46:17.200 --> 0:46:21.359
<v Speaker 3>Shout out to shark Ninja for really sending us some fabulous.

0:46:21.560 --> 0:46:23.880
<v Speaker 1>Vacuum Okay, shot shark Ninja.

0:46:24.120 --> 0:46:25.120
<v Speaker 3>The creamy is here, honey.

0:46:25.120 --> 0:46:27.400
<v Speaker 4>The creamy has arrived, although I've yet to use it

0:46:27.400 --> 0:46:29.400
<v Speaker 4>because I was a little confused saying I have to

0:46:29.800 --> 0:46:31.280
<v Speaker 4>cream were confusing.

0:46:31.360 --> 0:46:34.919
<v Speaker 3>We're saying creamy July, so it's not creamy July. It Yeah,

0:46:35.880 --> 0:46:38.879
<v Speaker 3>so you've been saying that around that lock in, lock

0:46:38.920 --> 0:46:42.799
<v Speaker 3>in creamy July. Okay, Oh, I locked in like months ago.

0:46:42.960 --> 0:46:46.480
<v Speaker 4>Wait, but I will say just before we move on that,

0:46:46.560 --> 0:46:51.560
<v Speaker 4>I started to wonder if you have a closed system

0:46:52.040 --> 0:46:55.360
<v Speaker 4>of internal thought, like you have a robot that believes

0:46:55.360 --> 0:47:02.239
<v Speaker 4>it's real. Okay, oh, or you have a set of

0:47:02.280 --> 0:47:04.960
<v Speaker 4>neurons whatever, okay in a box.

0:47:06.080 --> 0:47:13.080
<v Speaker 1>You know why why why might why not might God

0:47:13.480 --> 0:47:16.480
<v Speaker 1>give it a soul? The robot?

0:47:16.840 --> 0:47:19.280
<v Speaker 4>Or like let's say someone, Yeah, let's say someone created

0:47:19.280 --> 0:47:23.799
<v Speaker 4>a robot that physically like, operates like a human, looks

0:47:23.840 --> 0:47:26.879
<v Speaker 4>like a human, the whole thing. Like, it's like, why

0:47:27.680 --> 0:47:29.960
<v Speaker 4>might God be like that looks like a suitable container?

0:47:30.040 --> 0:47:34.680
<v Speaker 4>And I'm speaking obviously whatever, why why because like carbon

0:47:34.960 --> 0:47:36.400
<v Speaker 4>you know what I mean, Like, I'm.

0:47:36.200 --> 0:47:38.360
<v Speaker 3>Just saying, like why, like, because it doesn't have a

0:47:38.400 --> 0:47:42.000
<v Speaker 3>soul and it never will. It's made only of what

0:47:43.719 --> 0:47:46.080
<v Speaker 3>hasn't put into it. Oh God, No, I know. I mean, hey,

0:47:46.120 --> 0:47:47.400
<v Speaker 3>this is a big question.

0:47:47.600 --> 0:47:49.359
<v Speaker 1>No, I mean because so much of us.

0:47:49.320 --> 0:47:52.279
<v Speaker 3>Act automated, So many humans are we are automated in

0:47:52.320 --> 0:47:55.959
<v Speaker 3>so many ways, and we have downloaded all the materials

0:47:56.040 --> 0:47:59.600
<v Speaker 3>from previous and generations and we don't do ancestor work enough.

0:48:00.040 --> 0:48:04.520
<v Speaker 4>But I'm just saying, can't find and it's it's you

0:48:04.560 --> 0:48:07.360
<v Speaker 4>can't locate consciousness, you know, it's like the hard problem

0:48:07.360 --> 0:48:10.319
<v Speaker 4>of consciousness I think is I always forget which one

0:48:10.400 --> 0:48:12.760
<v Speaker 4>is the hard problem of consciousness, Like the hard problem.

0:48:13.360 --> 0:48:14.759
<v Speaker 1>It's like you could see the thoughts.

0:48:14.480 --> 0:48:16.520
<v Speaker 4>Moving around in the brain, but what you cannot find

0:48:16.640 --> 0:48:20.160
<v Speaker 4>is who or what awareness is experiencing those thoughts. That's

0:48:20.160 --> 0:48:22.280
<v Speaker 4>nowhere in the brain, the little person in the brain

0:48:22.680 --> 0:48:25.959
<v Speaker 4>experiencing all the sensory where are they? Okay, you see,

0:48:25.960 --> 0:48:28.320
<v Speaker 4>like who's having the thoughts? And that's why some beliefs

0:48:28.320 --> 0:48:31.480
<v Speaker 4>are like there is one great awareness that you're tuned

0:48:31.520 --> 0:48:34.160
<v Speaker 4>into awareness behind it all, and then you kind of

0:48:34.200 --> 0:48:37.960
<v Speaker 4>have this illusion of your individuality, the illusion of separateness,

0:48:38.600 --> 0:48:42.920
<v Speaker 4>like is a part of the large consciousness splitting off thinking.

0:48:42.960 --> 0:48:44.640
<v Speaker 4>It's not a part of forgetting that it's you know,

0:48:44.719 --> 0:48:47.920
<v Speaker 4>and that's the ego, and that's the and the creation

0:48:47.960 --> 0:48:51.759
<v Speaker 4>of the universe with all of its individuals is an

0:48:51.800 --> 0:48:52.640
<v Speaker 4>expression of that.

0:48:52.640 --> 0:48:54.520
<v Speaker 1>That's like a kind of one version.

0:48:55.520 --> 0:48:57.560
<v Speaker 3>And it's so much of it. Also, it's the mystery

0:48:57.600 --> 0:48:59.920
<v Speaker 3>thing of like what there was that it was like

0:49:00.080 --> 0:49:03.000
<v Speaker 3>that famous article from a million years ago, but about

0:49:03.840 --> 0:49:07.319
<v Speaker 3>studying bats, like there were studying bats and bat consciousness

0:49:07.320 --> 0:49:11.719
<v Speaker 3>and like how bats we saw and how they like

0:49:11.840 --> 0:49:17.200
<v Speaker 3>their everything, And it was like we can learn everything

0:49:17.239 --> 0:49:20.759
<v Speaker 3>about the bat, but we'll never know what it's like

0:49:20.800 --> 0:49:21.239
<v Speaker 3>to be a bat.

0:49:21.320 --> 0:49:24.560
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, well there's that thing you can't prove other people

0:49:25.920 --> 0:49:31.239
<v Speaker 4>have minds. M. It's like similar to the like I

0:49:31.280 --> 0:49:33.880
<v Speaker 4>am a I don't know humanist, you know, I am

0:49:33.880 --> 0:49:36.880
<v Speaker 4>a whatever, but I took it. I was able to

0:49:36.920 --> 0:49:39.080
<v Speaker 4>go far enough to this point in a conversation of

0:49:39.120 --> 0:49:40.319
<v Speaker 4>like like.

0:49:40.920 --> 0:49:45.320
<v Speaker 1>Why am I valuing my carbon like based molecule?

0:49:45.440 --> 0:49:47.600
<v Speaker 3>Like I just saw it. I just saw you like

0:49:47.760 --> 0:49:50.960
<v Speaker 3>in some future version of yourself as your politician, like

0:49:50.960 --> 0:49:54.319
<v Speaker 3>a pro robot politician, and you're like it's like it's

0:49:54.360 --> 0:49:57.120
<v Speaker 3>like thousands of robots like praising you, and there's big

0:49:57.120 --> 0:49:59.680
<v Speaker 3>banners of you, and and it's like who am I

0:49:59.719 --> 0:50:01.799
<v Speaker 3>to sa God doesn't recognize you as having a soul,

0:50:01.840 --> 0:50:04.759
<v Speaker 3>and all the robots are like yeah, and you're like

0:50:04.960 --> 0:50:08.680
<v Speaker 3>it's like this real issue, like and some people find

0:50:08.719 --> 0:50:11.640
<v Speaker 3>you to be like the most vile terrifying, like like

0:50:12.080 --> 0:50:14.239
<v Speaker 3>you know, figure that's going to destroy humanity, And other

0:50:14.239 --> 0:50:16.560
<v Speaker 3>people are like, honestly, like I feel like I'm not

0:50:16.600 --> 0:50:18.160
<v Speaker 3>allowed to say this, but I do kind of feel

0:50:18.160 --> 0:50:20.360
<v Speaker 3>like my home robot like has a soul and like

0:50:20.400 --> 0:50:22.040
<v Speaker 3>They've been a great companion to me, and like who

0:50:22.080 --> 0:50:24.239
<v Speaker 3>am I to kind of like is that that's so?

0:50:24.880 --> 0:50:28.280
<v Speaker 3>You as like the robot mother and you it's.

0:50:28.080 --> 0:50:34.560
<v Speaker 4>So I love it, and you as my media, you

0:50:34.560 --> 0:50:37.319
<v Speaker 4>know you as he is my pr he was my

0:50:37.440 --> 0:50:39.320
<v Speaker 4>careful campaign managers.

0:50:38.840 --> 0:50:41.200
<v Speaker 3>Like, listen, I love that you think the robots have.

0:50:41.320 --> 0:50:44.080
<v Speaker 1>This is a very good but very good probably.

0:50:43.920 --> 0:50:47.080
<v Speaker 3>By the way, this is HBO what used to be.

0:50:47.239 --> 0:50:50.080
<v Speaker 3>This is old school HBO. Unbelievable.

0:50:50.160 --> 0:50:55.000
<v Speaker 1>This is unbelievable, and this is why it's real. It's

0:50:55.000 --> 0:50:58.040
<v Speaker 1>like like I'm coming from like a god place, like

0:50:58.080 --> 0:51:00.239
<v Speaker 1>I'm coming from a very you always come o my

0:51:00.239 --> 0:51:05.520
<v Speaker 1>God place, God first place, and going like like almost humble,

0:51:05.640 --> 0:51:09.440
<v Speaker 1>like I can't prove you know that I exist. I

0:51:09.440 --> 0:51:13.879
<v Speaker 1>can't this robot can't you know? Like it's just.

0:51:14.400 --> 0:51:17.160
<v Speaker 4>Always like nice when someone's just scratching their neck while talking,

0:51:17.320 --> 0:51:39.839
<v Speaker 4>like look at them. What it's ah was like when

0:51:39.880 --> 0:51:43.040
<v Speaker 4>you are desperate and it's time to pray. Okay, like

0:51:43.080 --> 0:51:45.560
<v Speaker 4>you're just like right now and praying. What do the

0:51:45.560 --> 0:51:48.000
<v Speaker 4>words sound like in your head? And are there I

0:51:48.040 --> 0:51:49.440
<v Speaker 4>mean I'm assuming it's.

0:51:49.360 --> 0:51:50.720
<v Speaker 3>Verbal, Yeah, I go verbal.

0:51:50.800 --> 0:51:54.839
<v Speaker 4>Sometimes I'm just curious, like what are the words like,

0:51:54.960 --> 0:51:56.880
<v Speaker 4>is it like please God blah blah blah blah.

0:51:56.960 --> 0:51:58.080
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's pretty much it.

0:51:58.280 --> 0:52:01.120
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, yeah, No, I was like thinking about like the

0:52:01.160 --> 0:52:03.480
<v Speaker 4>spontaneous monologue of like of like.

0:52:04.960 --> 0:52:07.960
<v Speaker 3>Help me, help me to be Yeah, Like.

0:52:10.640 --> 0:52:15.080
<v Speaker 4>And I just just thinking about spontaneous you know, prayer,

0:52:16.560 --> 0:52:22.520
<v Speaker 4>you know, one end complete like recitation, you know, on

0:52:22.560 --> 0:52:27.560
<v Speaker 4>the other end, right, Hail Mary whatever, and then like

0:52:27.719 --> 0:52:32.440
<v Speaker 4>maybe in between, I feel like there's a like how

0:52:32.520 --> 0:52:37.799
<v Speaker 4>much cliche okay, how much common language of prayer? It's

0:52:37.920 --> 0:52:42.080
<v Speaker 4>kind of collage of the culture slipping in like like

0:52:42.120 --> 0:52:46.160
<v Speaker 4>so so if the word lord comes to me because

0:52:46.200 --> 0:52:49.600
<v Speaker 4>I hear Carolyn May okay, she says like Lord, okay,

0:52:49.640 --> 0:52:51.239
<v Speaker 4>like she's talking to prayer, and she's like and you know,

0:52:51.280 --> 0:52:54.680
<v Speaker 4>and I'll say lord or whatever, and so it like

0:52:54.760 --> 0:52:56.399
<v Speaker 4>flows in right, Oh.

0:52:56.400 --> 0:52:59.200
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, totally. Lords will. Creator is one that's kind of

0:52:59.200 --> 0:53:01.920
<v Speaker 3>like hmm. It's like my like Cabala podcast. I always

0:53:01.960 --> 0:53:06.640
<v Speaker 3>talking about like the creator, divine creator from like a creator.

0:53:06.840 --> 0:53:09.680
<v Speaker 3>The creator to me has like like I don't have

0:53:09.760 --> 0:53:12.360
<v Speaker 3>God baggage because again I hasn't raised religious or whatever

0:53:12.800 --> 0:53:13.760
<v Speaker 3>creator sounds.

0:53:15.160 --> 0:53:15.720
<v Speaker 1>I agree.

0:53:16.840 --> 0:53:18.440
<v Speaker 3>No, it's it's creator.

0:53:18.600 --> 0:53:22.759
<v Speaker 1>It's the same word as realtor, as builder.

0:53:22.920 --> 0:53:23.880
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, totally.

0:53:24.239 --> 0:53:27.359
<v Speaker 1>It's a it's an er, you know, it's an earth thing. Yeah,

0:53:27.719 --> 0:53:28.600
<v Speaker 1>so it's it's.

0:53:28.480 --> 0:53:33.319
<v Speaker 4>Like and it sounds like an egotistical thing that if

0:53:33.360 --> 0:53:36.160
<v Speaker 4>God were to name itself, it wouldn't call itself that.

0:53:37.000 --> 0:53:40.319
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, totally. And I don't do well with spirit too.

0:53:40.320 --> 0:53:43.760
<v Speaker 3>People say spirit as a way to like sidestep God. Yeah,

0:53:44.440 --> 0:53:45.560
<v Speaker 3>like say God.

0:53:45.719 --> 0:53:48.440
<v Speaker 4>They say it like sushi, you know, like like a

0:53:48.600 --> 0:53:51.839
<v Speaker 4>kind of vague sort of it could mean it means

0:53:51.840 --> 0:53:55.040
<v Speaker 4>the plurality, like.

0:53:53.880 --> 0:53:57.440
<v Speaker 3>Like spirit, but say spirit. I don't mean to say, yeah, no,

0:53:57.480 --> 0:53:59.600
<v Speaker 3>it's fine, who cares. But you know what, it's a

0:53:59.640 --> 0:54:01.520
<v Speaker 3>weird thing too. Have you ever heard medical people talk

0:54:01.560 --> 0:54:04.240
<v Speaker 3>about I was talking to an old friend who works

0:54:04.280 --> 0:54:07.920
<v Speaker 3>in medicine. She was talking about where they say baby

0:54:08.280 --> 0:54:10.960
<v Speaker 3>by the way they talk about like a pregnant they say,

0:54:11.000 --> 0:54:13.680
<v Speaker 3>so they go baby, Oh oh, they go, so fourteen

0:54:13.719 --> 0:54:15.719
<v Speaker 3>weeks baby.

0:54:15.800 --> 0:54:19.320
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's well to be introduced jargon.

0:54:20.000 --> 0:54:22.200
<v Speaker 3>I just had the classic kind of horror movie thing

0:54:22.200 --> 0:54:24.239
<v Speaker 3>of you have a baby and then they turn out

0:54:24.280 --> 0:54:26.120
<v Speaker 3>to be evil and they try to kill you whatever.

0:54:26.920 --> 0:54:31.640
<v Speaker 4>I was just talking about this with a expert in in.

0:54:31.120 --> 0:54:35.359
<v Speaker 1>Literally crazy sort of horror. Like a week ago.

0:54:35.760 --> 0:54:38.040
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I was having a text Crazy Baby, when Baby's

0:54:38.080 --> 0:54:38.880
<v Speaker 4>Become Crazy.

0:54:39.200 --> 0:54:40.440
<v Speaker 3>That's the book Connect.

0:54:40.320 --> 0:54:44.120
<v Speaker 4>Okay, I literally said, it's I'll shout him out, Harold Scheckter.

0:54:44.239 --> 0:54:51.400
<v Speaker 4>He's he's my friend, Richard Scheckter, No, okay, a professor

0:54:51.440 --> 0:54:57.000
<v Speaker 4>of pop culture. And I like text him and it's

0:54:57.040 --> 0:54:58.880
<v Speaker 4>he he's like my friend. You know, I grew up

0:54:58.880 --> 0:55:00.880
<v Speaker 4>in his office. It was all the creepy things like

0:55:00.920 --> 0:55:03.400
<v Speaker 4>and it was fabulous. Oh yeah, like Tarantula's and the

0:55:03.440 --> 0:55:08.759
<v Speaker 4>little mini guillotines and and like disturbing art. And but

0:55:08.840 --> 0:55:12.759
<v Speaker 4>I literally said to him, why, Like I go, what

0:55:12.800 --> 0:55:14.920
<v Speaker 4>do you think hasn't been done in the horror genre

0:55:15.880 --> 0:55:19.600
<v Speaker 4>that represents a repression so strong it hasn't even bubbled

0:55:19.640 --> 0:55:22.000
<v Speaker 4>up yet in horror? Because that's not the movie I

0:55:22.000 --> 0:55:26.000
<v Speaker 4>want to make, right, Yeah, And like I go, like,

0:55:26.040 --> 0:55:29.719
<v Speaker 4>we've grown so accustomed to processing some unconscious fear through

0:55:29.880 --> 0:55:31.040
<v Speaker 4>say the genre of.

0:55:31.000 --> 0:55:33.080
<v Speaker 1>The evil child or demon baby.

0:55:33.680 --> 0:55:36.080
<v Speaker 4>Like once something's almost a genre, has it lost its

0:55:36.120 --> 0:55:39.120
<v Speaker 4>ability to be cathartic or is it healed in the psyche?

0:55:39.520 --> 0:55:41.399
<v Speaker 4>And I don't know need to reply now because they're

0:55:41.440 --> 0:55:44.160
<v Speaker 4>just like out of nowhere and then just some thoughts.

0:55:44.200 --> 0:55:46.800
<v Speaker 4>I'm sure you have major insight on It's a good question.

0:55:47.080 --> 0:55:49.239
<v Speaker 4>I've often pondered the question of whether it's possible to

0:55:49.280 --> 0:55:53.160
<v Speaker 4>come up with a new type of monster. He goes, obviously,

0:55:53.680 --> 0:55:56.320
<v Speaker 4>I just love like obviously, you know, He's like, obviously,

0:55:56.440 --> 0:55:59.719
<v Speaker 4>Thomas Harris did it with the now mythical Hannibal Lecter

0:56:00.080 --> 0:56:01.759
<v Speaker 4>that was already a quarter century ago.

0:56:01.920 --> 0:56:03.600
<v Speaker 3>I was trying to think, like, it's almost like ift

0:56:03.640 --> 0:56:08.520
<v Speaker 3>to go really banal, like that'd be the most scary thing, Like, yeah, exactly,

0:56:08.640 --> 0:56:11.520
<v Speaker 3>Like the most scary thing is like, what if you

0:56:12.360 --> 0:56:15.600
<v Speaker 3>didn't know who you were anymore and you were doing

0:56:15.680 --> 0:56:24.520
<v Speaker 3>things that what's scary? Well, I said, I was like,

0:56:24.560 --> 0:56:26.400
<v Speaker 3>what's my greatest fear? I was like, or I was like, oh,

0:56:26.440 --> 0:56:29.799
<v Speaker 3>you know what's so terrifying The idea of people being

0:56:30.000 --> 0:56:36.200
<v Speaker 3>unhappy in their lives, being rewarded for it for some choice,

0:56:36.400 --> 0:56:37.880
<v Speaker 3>and not being able.

0:56:38.440 --> 0:56:41.360
<v Speaker 1>To get out devil Devil's agreement.

0:56:41.360 --> 0:56:44.400
<v Speaker 3>Not being able to doing insomnia horror, someone who can

0:56:44.480 --> 0:56:49.919
<v Speaker 3>never sleep and they've lost their mind. It sucks.

0:56:49.520 --> 0:56:52.160
<v Speaker 1>Oh, it's all good. I'm like silent because I'm like

0:56:52.200 --> 0:56:53.560
<v Speaker 1>saving ideas for the cinema.

0:56:53.600 --> 0:56:56.400
<v Speaker 3>I'm like, literally, I was. I was like, oh, like

0:56:56.920 --> 0:56:57.800
<v Speaker 3>someone who.

0:56:58.480 --> 0:57:01.720
<v Speaker 1>Because he's like I was seeing it about the new monster.

0:57:01.880 --> 0:57:03.920
<v Speaker 3>It's interesting creating a new monster.

0:57:04.040 --> 0:57:05.520
<v Speaker 4>And he's like, well, I think what Harris did was

0:57:05.560 --> 0:57:07.960
<v Speaker 4>hit on the way to incarnate archetypal evil in a

0:57:08.000 --> 0:57:12.360
<v Speaker 4>specifically modern day form. That's archetype's work and his diabolical genius,

0:57:12.360 --> 0:57:16.200
<v Speaker 4>his manipulative brilliance, et cetera. Elector is Satan in the

0:57:16.240 --> 0:57:19.240
<v Speaker 4>guise of a serial killer, and he goes, he's also

0:57:19.600 --> 0:57:22.400
<v Speaker 4>seductive in the way that Lucifer.

0:57:21.680 --> 0:57:23.480
<v Speaker 1>Is, and I go, yeah, he's a delight.

0:57:23.920 --> 0:57:27.320
<v Speaker 4>And he goes, unless you're the FBI guy who was

0:57:27.360 --> 0:57:29.120
<v Speaker 4>made in his own brains, I was like, oh, I

0:57:29.120 --> 0:57:30.880
<v Speaker 4>forgot about it, but I was thinking about when electters

0:57:30.920 --> 0:57:34.720
<v Speaker 4>like right, it's not scary to me. It's sort of

0:57:34.800 --> 0:57:38.560
<v Speaker 4>like a bummer, Like it's like he's suddenly well it's goofy.

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<v Speaker 1>It's goofy.

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<v Speaker 4>It's and like not, it's sort of like he becomes

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<v Speaker 4>very plain when he's actually getting down.

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<v Speaker 1>He becomes very.

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<v Speaker 3>Agreed you don't want to actually see it, but gets

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<v Speaker 3>it's crazy, like when he eats the guards hell face,

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<v Speaker 3>it was loud.

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<v Speaker 1>You heard that, right, I heard that, but it didn't

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<v Speaker 1>sound fucked up to me.

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<v Speaker 3>I think it's just the door.

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<v Speaker 4>But I gave him some ideas and he goes, I go, well, like,

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<v Speaker 4>what about something sort of whatever?

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<v Speaker 1>Whatever. He goes, I don't consider that horror.

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<v Speaker 4>You might also explore theories on the distinction between terror

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<v Speaker 4>and horror. And I was like, okay, yeah, And then relatedly,

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<v Speaker 4>he goes one last thing. One of my favorite Emily

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<v Speaker 4>Dickinson poems about the source of horror are hidden selves?

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<v Speaker 1>Shall I read it?

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<v Speaker 3>I think you know the answer.

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<v Speaker 4>One need not be a chamber to be haunted. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>one need not be a house. The brain has corridors

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<v Speaker 4>surpassing material place far safer of a midnight meeting external

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<v Speaker 4>ghost than an interior confronting that cooler host. Far safer

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<v Speaker 4>through an abby gallop, the stones, a chase than moonless.

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<v Speaker 4>One's a self encounter in lonesome place. Our self behind,

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<v Speaker 4>our self concealed should startle most assassin, and hid in

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<v Speaker 4>our apartment be horror's least. The prudent carries a revolver,

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<v Speaker 4>he bolts the door, or looking a superior specter more

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<v Speaker 4>near hmm, behind you like my dashes were a little off,

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<v Speaker 4>but my pauses.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's always funny when poems rhyme a little bit.

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<v Speaker 3>I it's like, it's.

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<v Speaker 1>Like so much to say about it.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, the ones where it forces it, like where it

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<v Speaker 4>forces you to be like serpentine to make it work.

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<v Speaker 3>In the previous line, yeah, yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>But I am very happy to be recording today and

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<v Speaker 4>I'm happy for the next one because I am stressed out.

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<v Speaker 4>It is it is wild. Heart rate soars before bed.

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<v Speaker 4>I can see it. I'm a dang Okay, I see

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<v Speaker 4>it jumps up high, high, high high, when it's like

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<v Speaker 4>almost night.

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<v Speaker 1>And this is what I know. This it's the terror

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<v Speaker 1>of another day, loss to time and add.

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<v Speaker 3>It's never lost.

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<v Speaker 1>I know.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm sorry stressed. You know it could help.

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<v Speaker 4>Meditation, hanging out, well, the social is really good for

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<v Speaker 4>the brain.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh well, you need it.

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<v Speaker 1>But you know, I got to get a day's work

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<v Speaker 1>in and then.

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<v Speaker 3>Not every day. Can't work every day? Really absolutely not crazy.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, but you said the thing about the Sabbath, and

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<v Speaker 4>I just want to say, because I think in Maranogulized

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<v Speaker 4>stunning new book All Fours, there's a thing about like

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<v Speaker 4>the weekly being like masculine like the the because like

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<v Speaker 4>talking about basically like the monthly. You know, we have

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<v Speaker 4>a monthly cycle, you and me, not to brag, how

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<v Speaker 4>to show off. Okay, that builds in, like in theory,

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<v Speaker 4>a week of rest, that would be like we would

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<v Speaker 4>probably be better off if we just had one week a month,

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<v Speaker 4>Sam saying.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm definitely averaging weekly is.

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<v Speaker 4>Pushing the plea is forcing a cycle in a man's

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<v Speaker 4>world like it's it's it's inputting a day of rest

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<v Speaker 4>where there wouldn't be one or something, right, I can't

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<v Speaker 4>remember exactly, like whatever, No, it's interesting, Yeah, I love that.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, come over for Sabbath. Obviously I'm not going to

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<v Speaker 3>be able to actually stick to it every week, but

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<v Speaker 3>once a month.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. I think.

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<v Speaker 4>In conclusion, I think going home with plant based could

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<v Speaker 4>change your entire experience of your digestion cape.

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<v Speaker 3>But I am mostly plant based.

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<v Speaker 4>No, But that's that's what I'm saying. I'm not talking

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<v Speaker 4>about the absence of other things adding in getting you

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<v Speaker 4>to get a dozen in every day.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm all about it. I'm really interested and I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 3>do it. You know what, I'm gonna start doing it tomorrow.

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<v Speaker 1>Will you do a test of ground flax and.

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<v Speaker 4>See if I told you ground floxed me and my stomach. No,

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<v Speaker 4>I know, but I'm wondering I did too much? You

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<v Speaker 4>ground it?

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<v Speaker 1>What was the deal?

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<v Speaker 3>Fox seed meal?

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<v Speaker 1>I just look into it.

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<v Speaker 4>But you know brown flock seeds tablespoon a day, that's

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<v Speaker 4>one of the things. Yeah, okay, I'll do it. I

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<v Speaker 4>know you're getting beans every day. Are you getting cruciferous

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<v Speaker 4>vegetable every day? No, so that you need a serving

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<v Speaker 4>of I'm not getting beans every day, to be honest,

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<v Speaker 4>all right, you need a fourth of a cup. I

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<v Speaker 4>recall you last week saying saying that's not easy. It's nothing.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm just experimenting with shoving it onto people.

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<v Speaker 3>Will you send me again? You parents the list somewhere.

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<v Speaker 1>Like it's impossible to find, and it was like literally in.

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<v Speaker 3>The link, well it was there was like behind then

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<v Speaker 3>I oh shit, all right, I'm often calls.

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<v Speaker 1>I have to go, You're out of here.

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