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Speaker 1: Hi, this is Zach Wheeler. Welcome to Philly Show.

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Speaker 2: Ruben Tomorrow, Junior, Jim Salisbury, Todd, z Aleki. It's Thanksgiving, everybody.

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Speaker 2: It's Thursday, November twenty seven. Happy Thanksgiving, guys.

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Speaker 1: How are you guys giving? Todd? Yeah, Happy Thanksgiving? James?

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Speaker 3: Thank you? Are we getting time and a half of this?

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Speaker 1: Yes?

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Speaker 2: Double time is overtime. We're ourselves have a holiday, exactly right.

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Speaker 2: You guys have big plans, you have have things that

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Speaker 2: you have to eat on Thanksgiving? What's your must have?

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Speaker 3: Oh? Well, I I you know, I wish the pilgrims

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Speaker 3: ight lasagna. But other than that, I do like turkey.

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Speaker 1: All right. Oh dude, I'm all about the stuffing. And

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Speaker 1: if you call it filling, you're out on my book.

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Speaker 3: It's not What about dressing. Some people call it dressing?

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Speaker 1: Oh please, stuff be ridiculous. It's stuffing. You stuff it,

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Speaker 1: You stuff the bird with the stuff it.

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Speaker 2: Exactly right. I agree with you, Reuben. I agree that

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Speaker 2: that's the best. It's not even close.

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Speaker 1: Mashed potatoes for me.

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Speaker 2: Mash potatos, yes, sir, yes, sir. So what we think

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Speaker 2: back to this baseball season twenty twenty five? Anything you

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Speaker 2: guys would like to say that you're thankful for before

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Speaker 2: we get into fan questions, uh, viewer listening, viewer listener questions.

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Speaker 3: I'm thankful I was there the night shore we hit

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Speaker 3: four ball four bombs. That was a fun night. I'm

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Speaker 3: just thankful baseball matters so much in this town. Last

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Speaker 3: you know, last four years have been uh fun. I

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Speaker 3: know that the conclusions have not been what people are

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Speaker 3: looking for and have created some disappointment, serious appointment, especially

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Speaker 3: the last three. But the regular seasons have created a

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Speaker 3: lot of great stories, a lot of great performances. I

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Speaker 3: Turner wins a bouting, titlest Year, Schwarmer RBI home run title,

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Speaker 3: I mean, Zach Wheelers, some great performances, Christopher Sanchez. So

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Speaker 3: I just thankful baseball really matters, and it's going to

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Speaker 3: continue to matter, and they're going to have another twenty

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Speaker 3: twenty six is going to be another entertaining and adventurous

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Speaker 3: regular season. I'm sure there will be a lot of

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Speaker 3: great storylines and then October will come along and we'll

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Speaker 3: see what happens. But bottom line, thankful baseball matters.

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Speaker 2: What do you got, Todd Well, Yeah, one hundred percent

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Speaker 2: having baseball You know you could be. You can live

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Speaker 2: in so many other cities where you know, going into

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Speaker 2: spring training your team does not have it like a

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Speaker 2: real chance to win. That that is not the case

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Speaker 2: in Philadelphia. But I was thinking about this and I

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Speaker 2: am thankful that I get to watch the development and

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Speaker 2: just see how players can go from big time prospect

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Speaker 2: down to this guy's a bus to now finishing second

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Speaker 2: for Nlcy Young like Christopher Sanchez. I mean, how much

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Speaker 2: fun was it to watch him pitch this year and

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Speaker 2: just to see kind of how far he has come

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Speaker 2: from being a guy that they got in a trade

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Speaker 2: with Tampa Bay because he was a lefty that threw hard,

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Speaker 2: to having no velocity, no command, people going like, uh,

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Speaker 2: bad trade from the Phillies. And then Christopher Sanchez gets

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Speaker 2: completely turned around. Jim, we talked about the you talked

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Speaker 2: about this last week following the BBWA Awards and how

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Speaker 2: he came into spring training looking like the news, Yes,

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Speaker 2: like he was the dude, and then to see him

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Speaker 2: actually go out there and put it together. It shows

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Speaker 2: you just when you think you know what's going to

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Speaker 2: happen with baseball, and you think you have a player

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Speaker 2: figured out, and you know you're ready to give up

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Speaker 2: on a guy. This guy can't hit lefties. This guy's

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Speaker 2: not going to be the guy you think he's going

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Speaker 2: to be boom. Next year, Bryce and Scott's gonna hit

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Speaker 2: like three ten make an All Star team. So you

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Speaker 2: never know what's going to happen.

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Speaker 1: That's what makes baseball great.

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Speaker 3: And you're right about you said. You know, people didn't

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Speaker 3: like to trade at first because that Curtis Mead gets

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Speaker 3: to the big leagues before Sanchez becomes Sanchez, and people, oh,

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Speaker 3: you great, gave away a really solid hitting prospect infielder.

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Speaker 3: How can you make that trade? Well, it takes a

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Speaker 3: little time. It takes a little time, and uh but

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Speaker 3: an awfully good one. I think people would make that

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Speaker 3: trade again.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, guys, I totally agree with all of your comments.

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Speaker 4: Kind of stole a little bit of my thunder, but

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Speaker 4: I'm gonna get a little sappy. I'm grateful to be

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Speaker 4: able to talk baseball with you guys because I know

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Speaker 4: how much how much you guys love the game, how

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Speaker 4: much time and effort you put into you know, being

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Speaker 4: part of this game and what you guys do.

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Speaker 1: It makes me a little emotional.

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Speaker 3: But I got I tell you.

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Speaker 1: I love being with you guys.

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Speaker 2: It's awesome.

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Speaker 3: I appreciate it.

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Speaker 2: Man.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we love you.

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Speaker 2: I love you too, Reuben, we love do. I love

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Speaker 2: doing the show. It's it's the most fun I've had

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Speaker 2: in a long time. It's absolutely just like getting together

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Speaker 2: with you guys and talk of baseball. I really do

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Speaker 2: look forward and I really appreciate the people.

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Speaker 1: No god, I will say I will say this also.

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Speaker 5: I love seeing guys like Auto Kemp getting opportunities to

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Speaker 5: become major league players and making impact. This is a

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Speaker 5: guy that did not get drafted, folks.

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Speaker 6: And when you start thinking about, like how many millions

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Speaker 6: of kids, men and women want to play major league

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Speaker 6: baseball and how many people actually get a chance to

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Speaker 6: do it, what is twenty seven thousand, five hundred of

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Speaker 6: fact that that dude got to the big leagues without

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Speaker 6: being drafted and become sort of a and make some

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Speaker 6: impact for a team that's one of the best teams

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Speaker 6: in the major leagues. You gotta love that and and

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Speaker 6: that that heartens me because.

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Speaker 1: That's what that's part of the beauty of the game

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Speaker 3: And when a kid like that gets here and you

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Speaker 3: can see it in him this year.

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Speaker 1: He appreciates it, sure does.

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Speaker 3: I hope he never changes, you know, really this will

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Speaker 3: he played hurt like he had shoulder and knee surgery

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Speaker 3: You know, he made it, and there's something there. He's

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Speaker 3: got a good bat. I'm really curious to see how

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Speaker 3: he builds on twenty twenty five going into next year.

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Speaker 3: But I think you're right. Those stories are great. They

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Speaker 3: keep it coming back.

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Speaker 1: Ill, just one one more thing.

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Speaker 5: I'm very grateful to be able to be an announcer

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Speaker 5: and be a broadcaster and an analyst for the team

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Speaker 5: I grew up, you know, loving and playing for. So

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Speaker 5: I can't I don't ever take that for granted. So

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Speaker 3: Was that planning to grind?

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Speaker 2: We asked for a Philly Show listeners viewers to send

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Speaker 2: us some questions earlier this week. Okay, this one comes

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Speaker 2: from John Barton on Facebook Crunching the numbers. A spot

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Speaker 2: eight million arbitration players included. He had J ten Schwarberts.

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Speaker 2: you know all the other competitive balanced tax stuff. How

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Speaker 2: much do you think Debrowski has given up on the

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Speaker 2: payroll flexibility? Where's the money for that big right handed

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Speaker 3: Yeah? What do you think, Tom?

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Speaker 2: I don't know where. I feel like they're gonna have

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Speaker 2: on money with Marcus Simeon's deal, of course, but I

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Speaker 2: think they would have to. I think they're gonna have

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Speaker 2: to try to trade some guys.

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Speaker 1: Off the current big league roster.

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Speaker 2: If that's Alec Bohm, if that's Matt Strom, Brandon Marsh,

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Speaker 2: you know, certainly they want to trade in a cast

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Speaker 2: for him. But they're gonna have to get creative, I think,

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Speaker 2: could stick behind Bryce Harper.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, that guys with no trade clauses, and that makes

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Speaker 5: it really difficult. You got the Turners and the Harpers

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Speaker 5: of the world with no trade clauses.

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Speaker 1: They're not going to trade Wheeler. They can't trade Wheeler.

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Speaker 1: Why would they do that.

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Speaker 5: Nola's not going anywhere just because he had decline last

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Speaker 5: had a you know, real injury, So that's difficult too.

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Speaker 1: I think he might have a no trade as well.

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Speaker 5: So you sort of put themselves in a little bit

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Speaker 1: And I don't know that.

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Speaker 5: Unless there's a crazy blockbuster deal that can be made

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Speaker 5: where people are agreeing to do things much like Bars

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Speaker 1: Baby. Here we come, right, guys, only.

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Speaker 5: If John Middleton's ready to lose another hundred million two.

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Speaker 8: Nevertheless, nevertheless, Okay, here we go. How long will the

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Speaker 2: Exactly right, ed Bauers on ex It's time to mix

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Speaker 3: I think it has a very good chance of happening.

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Speaker 1: I do too. I think that's I key.

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Speaker 2: I'm not gonna say it's a lock. I mean, Dave

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Speaker 1: Likely he'll make the team. Pretty likely he'll be the fifth.

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Speaker 1: That's from George David on Facebook. What do you think

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Speaker 2: that should give the Phillies some pause. But if you

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Speaker 5: Question is whether you're going to go go to two years?

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Speaker 1: Right?

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Speaker 3: Was? What was the option? The option was?

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Speaker 3: with that? You know, I just don't know what he

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Speaker 3: had six great weeks. Have a lot of respect for

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Speaker 3: just don't know what he is. I wouldn't be I'd

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Speaker 2: Here's an interesting one, and Christopher Hartman on Instagram goes,

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Speaker 2: how does Andrew Painter compare to Spencer Howard. Howard was

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Speaker 2: I remember in twenty ten, Bryce Harper was playing.

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Speaker 3: He was live.

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Speaker 2: Streaming himself playing video games, and he was very like,

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Speaker 2: if Spencer Howard does not make this roster, I mean,

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Speaker 3: If I'm not mistaken, though, I think Painter as a

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Speaker 1: Let me give me some stats on Spencer.

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Speaker 3: Out He was drafted out of college in the second round.

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Speaker 3: But Painter has been an elite performer on the youth

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Speaker 3: Spencer Howard was insanely hyped for his strike thrown ability

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Speaker 5: Spencer Howard probably threw more than five innings this many

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Speaker 1: Talk about that for a second. Yeah, I'm talking about

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Speaker 3: Well maybe these guys too. These guys pitch once a week.

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Speaker 3: I watched you know, Painter was coming off surgery. They

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Speaker 5: I mean he threw a lot of pitches, but totally

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Speaker 5: And I didn't believe that Spencer Howard is a real

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Speaker 2: All right, we're back a couple a couple of weeks ago.

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Speaker 2: The Phillies protected Andrew Painter.

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Speaker 1: Now I'm doing in Blackett who they all?

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Speaker 2: Alex McFarland, those three guys from the Rual five drafts.

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Speaker 1: Getting older too, Todd, You're getting older.

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Speaker 3: It's like, uh so, And if I could, Todd point out,

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Speaker 1: A lot of great couple of weeks, A couple.

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Speaker 3: He he really likes what he sees and certainly liked

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that was a great That was a great episode.

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Speaker 2: And this is kind of related to the Rule This

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Speaker 2: is related to the Rule five draft. This is from

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Speaker 2: Sean f and Miller. I don't know what this is

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Speaker 2: on Instagram or Facebook. Daniel Susseck is a the Oakland

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Speaker 2: or not Oakland. He's the A's number eleven prospect. He's

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Speaker 2: a catcher. The A's did not protect him in the

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Speaker 2: Rule five draft, former first round pick. And I'm not

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Speaker 2: expecting you guys to have like seen this guy play

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Speaker 2: a lot. But the question is should the Phillies go

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Speaker 2: after this guy and maybe take him in the Rule

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Speaker 2: five draft? I mean, would you take in what scenario?

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Speaker 2: Maybe this is a better question is in what scenario

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Speaker 2: would the Phillies.

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Speaker 1: Take a catcher of that ilk?

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Speaker 2: And he's had so hit a pretty good year last

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Speaker 2: year in the Rule five draft. Does it make any

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Speaker 2: sense for a team like the Phillies to take a

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Speaker 2: Rule A catcher in the Rule five draft knowing that

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Speaker 2: you have to keep him on the roster the entire

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Speaker 2: year or you probably he goes back to the A's.

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Speaker 3: If you believe he'd make you better, maybe that could

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Speaker 3: you'd consider trading a guy like march On. I don't know,

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Speaker 3: because you have that forty roster. I would consider anything

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Speaker 3: that makes me better. It'd be great to add some

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Speaker 3: more catching, But the forty minute roster thing, you know,

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Speaker 3: makes it tough to consider him depth right.

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Speaker 5: Very very strange that they would not protect him based

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Speaker 5: on where they are, the Oakland A's and the rebuilding

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Speaker 5: ball club. I would have to talk to my man

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Speaker 5: Ed Sprague, who I think is the director of the

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Speaker 5: minor leagues over there or one of the directors to

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Speaker 5: find out a little bit more about this guy.

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Speaker 1: Maybe I'll have to do a little recon on my

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Speaker 1: old Stanford teammate. There you go, There you go.

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Speaker 2: This is from Shane Quick on Facebook. What's the word

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Speaker 2: on Gage? Would do you expect him to make the

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Speaker 2: roster at some point next year, I'd be surprised.

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Speaker 3: But that doesn't mean he's not a heck of a

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Speaker 3: heck of an arm and could be a quick riser quickly.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they want him to start.

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Speaker 1: He didn't really pit.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I don't know that he's here next year,

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Speaker 3: but I would be disappointed if it was twenty seven,

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Speaker 3: twenty eight or you know. It's still pretty quick in

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Speaker 3: a lot of ways, but next year might be a

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Speaker 3: little stretched. But he the kid, will dictate that by

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Speaker 3: the quality of his pitches. And if you throws strikes

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Speaker 3: and he competes, and if he's going to be a

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Speaker 3: starter or a reliever. If he's going to be a reliever,

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Speaker 3: he could.

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Speaker 5: Move a lot more quickly, right, I mean, anything again

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Speaker 5: happened in this day and age guys are coming up

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Speaker 5: from a ball.

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Speaker 1: You saw what the gad in Toronto did, you're savage.

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Speaker 5: I mean he stepped forward and up pitching unbelievable games

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Speaker 5: from a ball to the World Series.

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Speaker 1: I mean it's a different game these days.

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Speaker 5: And if you've got swing and miss stuff which looks

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Speaker 5: like Gage does.

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Speaker 2: Who knows Tom g on Blue Sky? Could you see

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Speaker 2: a scenario where Bryce and Scott asks Larry Bowa to

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Speaker 2: teach him to become a singles double slap hitter or

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Speaker 2: is that an approach from a bygone era. I guess

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Speaker 2: there's a reason why chicks dig. The singles hitter never

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Speaker 2: caught on, so.

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Speaker 3: He'd become like a like a Michael Kwan. Now I

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Speaker 3: think I think Brighty is always gonna look for the

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Speaker 3: extra base hit. Yeah, I don't like when he gets

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Speaker 3: too loopy in his swing and start lifting him. Can

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Speaker 3: he can be he can be a doubles guy?

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Speaker 9: For me, he made a very serious adjustment with his hands.

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Speaker 9: He moved his hands back down to his shoulder. There's

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Speaker 9: a lot less movement. It's more direct to the baseball.

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Speaker 9: I fully expect him to hit two.

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Speaker 3: Eighty next year, but he's not a slot pitter.

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Speaker 1: He's gonna hit two eighty.

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Speaker 5: He's gonna have thirty doubles and thirty stolen bases.

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Speaker 3: Gonna be a doubles guy.

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Speaker 2: This is an unusual question. Jessica Oliveris wants to know

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Speaker 2: do they purpose like put the best looking players on

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Speaker 2: the phillies.

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Speaker 1: Well, I just want to ask that question to see

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Speaker 1: when you're dude.

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Speaker 5: Casianos is a very good looking dude. The chicks dig

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Speaker 5: those guys just for starters. I don't know beyond that,

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Speaker 5: it's something. I've heard those names all the time. There's

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Speaker 5: people who love Alec Boum, love them, love the flow

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Speaker 5: flow Hey, hey, whatever brings people to the ballpark.

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Speaker 2: Man, exactly right, you.

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Speaker 1: Get Baseball's for everybody.

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Speaker 2: Baseball is absolutely for everybody.

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Speaker 3: About how you look. It's about how you play.

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Speaker 2: Let's get back to the ball, Jim. This is not

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Speaker 2: a question. This is not This is not a baseball

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Speaker 2: question either, but it is a question for you. Christopher

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Speaker 2: Genesco on Facebook wants to know for Jim, do you

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Speaker 2: barbecue in the winter, and if so, is there a

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Speaker 2: minimum temperature for when you venture out?

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Speaker 3: Yeah? I grill all winter. I'll even use my smoker

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Speaker 3: in the winter too. I mean I've had, you know,

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Speaker 3: my smoker. I've used my smoker in the snow and

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Speaker 3: then it hits and it melts when it would you call.

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Speaker 5: Yourself a smoke show?

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Speaker 3: But I actually I grilled yesterday. I grilled some I

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Speaker 3: grilled some awesome appetizers for the Eagles game. Oh yeah,

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Speaker 3: yeah that Oh they were great, big hit they were Uh,

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Speaker 3: we're honey, jalapeno chicken nuggets. I saw them. They they

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Speaker 3: bounced into my Twitter account, and uh, because I have

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Speaker 3: I look at all food stuff on my Twitter, so

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Speaker 3: I have this algorithm that sends all these recipes to me,

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Speaker 3: and I'm like, these look great.

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Speaker 1: So they come out.

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Speaker 3: They came out fabulous. Honey, don't worry about us, honey,

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Speaker 3: jalapeno chicken. So I'll go out there any weather, bring

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Speaker 3: a flashlight, wear a jacket.

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Speaker 1: You don't have flood lighting out them back there?

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Speaker 3: No, I just used the Uh like a little.

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Speaker 1: Old man with the lantern with the up the lamp.

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Speaker 1: Then he walks down there.

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Speaker 2: It's chicken from side to side of the wind.

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Speaker 3: Like like Paul Revere.

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Speaker 1: What if my land to old.

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Speaker 3: Can I on the opposite shore shall be ready to

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Speaker 3: ride and spread the alarm to every village, Middlesex and farm.

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Speaker 2: Except you know, Paul Revere didn't have a gas weber

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Speaker 2: like Jim does.

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Speaker 3: Actually, my grill is so beat up. I won't let

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Speaker 3: anybody use it because it has hot spots. And like

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Speaker 3: one of the burners is.

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Speaker 5: Totally good Christmas gift for you, huh, gets you a

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Speaker 5: new new smoker.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, one of the burners is dead, so it

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Speaker 3: just shoots out like a blow torch. Oh, it's not

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Speaker 3: very safe. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Maybe maybe we'll let the cobble of some money together.

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Speaker 1: We'll get you.

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Speaker 3: Well, I know all the tricks says, don't need to

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Speaker 3: change it up.

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Speaker 2: Okay, all right, I'm just saying if Traeger Weber wants

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Speaker 2: to sponsor of the Philly Show, right, yeah.

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Speaker 1: Great point, Yeah, great point.

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Speaker 3: The green Egg, Yeah, the green.

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Speaker 1: Egg whatever, the green Egg.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely, all right.

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Speaker 2: Let's end with one. Uh, let's end with the Phillies question.

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Speaker 2: Why do you think the Phillies are never the aggressors

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Speaker 2: early in the off season via trades, free agency, et cetera.

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Speaker 2: That's from Ryan Davis thirty eight on Instagram.

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Speaker 3: Well, they got Brad Lynche once upon a time, like

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Speaker 3: right out of the gate. They were very aggressive on

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Speaker 3: Jim Tomy. They were pretty aggressive on Manny Machado a

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Speaker 3: few years ago, at least quick out of the gate. Well,

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Speaker 3: I mean, you know, just we're going on sort of.

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Speaker 1: We were sort of aggressive on Halliday, very.

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Speaker 3: Aggressive on Holiday right after it, right after that. I

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Speaker 3: understand the question. It seems like things have.

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Speaker 2: It's more the exception the rule that at big free

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Speaker 2: agent signs. I mean as any no, no big free

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Speaker 2: agent signed yet, nobody else's signed.

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Speaker 5: There's thirty teams, nobody else's sign one player, Assigne.

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Speaker 2: We've seen a couple couple one for one trades, the

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Speaker 2: Nemo Marcus Simon trade, the Taylor Ward Grayson Rodriguez trade.

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Speaker 2: Josh Naylor re signed with the Mariners.

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Speaker 1: That's one guy.

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Speaker 3: You guys are aggressive on a bonya is. I mean,

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Speaker 3: I'm going way back. I'm just trying to think. I

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Speaker 3: mean recently. I can't think of a great example, at

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Speaker 3: least in terms of time wise timeline where they were

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Speaker 3: super aggressive.

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Speaker 5: I have to tell you that the agents are now

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Speaker 5: are very very keen on not doing a bad early deal.

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Speaker 5: It puts them in a very tough position in the future.

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Speaker 1: And unless their client is really.

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Speaker 5: Pushing them hard to a particular team or a particular situation,

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Speaker 5: the agents are super sensitive to try to not let

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Speaker 5: Boris overshadow them. And and you know, they want to

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Speaker 5: make sure that they do their best with the client

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Speaker 5: by developing a marketplace out there. And the marketplace hasn't

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Speaker 5: hasn't necessarily developed other than the nailor signing.

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Speaker 3: That's right, Naylor, and they were aggressive on I know,

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Speaker 3: time wise, they weren't aggressive on Harper dragged into March.

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Speaker 3: But three hundred and thirty million wasn't he very very briefly?

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Speaker 3: Wasn't that the biggest contract in the history of baseball

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Speaker 3: until Mike Trout signed like two days later?

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Speaker 1: Well?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it was the biggest free agent contract ever.

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Speaker 3: So that's I mean, depends on your definition of aggressive,

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Speaker 3: but I would say that was kind of aggressive.

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Speaker 2: But timing wise, not calendar wise, not aggressive. Yeah, but

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Speaker 2: price Harper wasn't going to sign on November twenty fifth,

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Speaker 2: and we.

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Speaker 1: Were aggressive on paple Bond. Sometimes it backfires on you.

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Speaker 3: You're very aggressive on papal Bond. That was the biggest

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Speaker 3: contract ever for a reliever, and it happened right out

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Speaker 3: of the gate because I remember it was like two

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Speaker 3: days before the GM meetings even started. It was like

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Speaker 3: November sixth or seventh, eighth.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean we had targeted, you know, three or

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Speaker 5: four different starter both excuse me, closers, and he was

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Speaker 5: the best one out there and.

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Speaker 1: Decided to make.

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Speaker 5: Our move pretty quickly to try to put ourselves into

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Speaker 5: place to close out games for one of the best

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Speaker 5: teams in the game until we broke.

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Speaker 3: You know, he gave me an autograph once. I should

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Speaker 3: go get it. It's upstairs. Do you have a minute.

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Speaker 10: No, no, I'm not that thankful for him, but we

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Speaker 10: are thankful for all of you that tuned in on Thanksgiving,

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Speaker 10: Amen Giving weekend, you know, Black Friday, you know all weekend.

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Speaker 2: He got the Eagles playing on Black Friday. Hope everybody

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Speaker 2: has a great Thanksgiving. Rubin, I hope you enjoy your stuffing, stuffing.

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Speaker 1: You know what.

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Speaker 3: My favorite part of the turkey is.

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Speaker 1: The neck drumstick.

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Speaker 2: Jim's showing off his pythons.

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Speaker 5: Every thanksgaming, everybody, and thank you so much for being

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Speaker 5: so supportive of our of our podcast. We love it,

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Speaker 5: we love doing it, and uh we honestly we love

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Speaker 5: our fans. Whether you're killing us or you're praising us,

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Speaker 5: it's uh, it's great that you guys are listening.

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Speaker 1: We appreciate it absolutely.

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Speaker 1: Smell you, Jim.

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