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Speaker 1: What's up, everybody. I'm Peanut Tooman and this is the

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Speaker 1: NFL Player's Second Act podcast and with me as always

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Speaker 1: as my trusty co host, Roman the Elder Harper.

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Speaker 2: Appreciate that, thanks, Peanut, even though you're older than me.

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Speaker 2: I want to jump right into our guests. I mean

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Speaker 2: we've already been talking.

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Speaker 1: Introduced who he is, First Ballot Hall of Famer, NFL

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Speaker 1: Top one hundred players, Walter Payton, Man of the Year

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Speaker 1: Award winner. Ladies and gentlemen, please welcome Anthony Munos to

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Speaker 1: the show.

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Speaker 3: Want to thanks having me. Thank you.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna just say this, like, I know who you are.

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Speaker 1: I played my thirteen years. I've seen you Super Bowls

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Speaker 1: and all the events that the league does, and having

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Speaker 1: done the research on you, I didn't know how dominant

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Speaker 1: you were. I don't pay attention to the lineman as

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Speaker 1: much per se because we I'm a dB, so I'm

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Speaker 1: you know, receivers maybe uh maybe tight ends.

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Speaker 4: But like you was, you were a dog.

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Speaker 1: Like you were you were, you were great.

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Speaker 3: You were.

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Speaker 4: He told me this this morning.

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Speaker 2: It was like, with all due respect, I said, dude,

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Speaker 2: he's considered the best tackle.

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Speaker 4: Of all I know. I just didn't just paid attention. Obviously,

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Speaker 2: I appreciate that our follows your son when he was

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Speaker 2: at college on meers.

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Speaker 3: Thank.

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Speaker 5: I appreciate that, And I mean it's still very humbling.

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Speaker 5: I mean, you know, I'm an old guy. You know,

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Speaker 5: I got I got a son your age, I got

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Speaker 5: grandkids are in high school, and uh, you know, I

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Speaker 5: still pinch myself. I live in Cincinnati, so it's a

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Speaker 5: three hour drive to Canton. Uh, and I've been in

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Speaker 5: twenty seven years, and I still pinch myself every time.

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Speaker 3: I drive up.

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Speaker 5: I have to watch it because I daydream a little

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Speaker 5: bit while I'm driving, you know, about coming up and

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Speaker 5: being with all the guys, and uh, thinking about the

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Speaker 5: guys I've I've gotten to know over the years that

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Speaker 5: are no longer with us when I got in. You know,

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Speaker 5: it's just one of those things where my wife and

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Speaker 5: I we got married my sophomore in college, where we

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Speaker 3: So I played thirteen years in the league.

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Speaker 5: After I retired, we moved we moved into built a

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Speaker 5: I found my freshman playbook from USC that was, you know,

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Speaker 5: seventeen years after I left USC. I found this freshman

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Speaker 5: through it to see what kind of plays we ran. Well,

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Speaker 5: I knew we ran student body right, student body left,

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Speaker 4: Call it student body back then.

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Speaker 3: Well, no, we called it twenty eight. But everybody that

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Speaker 5: But I opened it up in the first page, just

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Speaker 5: page said dominate. Opened the next page and said, we

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Speaker 5: early fourth quarter. So that's how I was trained in college.

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Speaker 5: And the pros had the same line coach for thirteen years.

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Speaker 5: We had shirts at camp that said finished. You know,

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Speaker 5: all about one word attitude. If you have the attitude

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Speaker 5: Baseball is my first love. I started playing baseball at

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Speaker 5: what they taught me. They said, don't you don't have

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Speaker 3: Talk about it.

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Speaker 5: So that's a little that I know. I was learning

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Speaker 5: So I appreciate you guys saying them.

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Speaker 2: I want to just applaud you because you mentioned all

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Speaker 2: truly learned that you are a product of your whole environment.

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Speaker 2: It's not just the college you choose. It's usually your upbringing,

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Speaker 2: of the day. The reason why you want to dominate, oh,

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Speaker 2: is college what I learned? And you were on the

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Speaker 2: national championship baseball team at Southern Cal Like because you

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Speaker 2: maybe tell us some stats we couldn't find them, give

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Speaker 3: You know, it's interesting.

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Speaker 5: So I always wanted to play baseball, and you know,

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Speaker 5: because I loved it. I was a third basement pitcher

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Speaker 3: Then they moved me up to the varsity.

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Speaker 5: And you know, I was hitting the ball pretty well,

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Speaker 3: No more hitting.

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Speaker 5: was want to know in college, uh, And I didn't

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Speaker 5: Oh my goodness, I guess I'm in the big times.

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Speaker 5: But I think I threw like eleven or twelve innings

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Speaker 4: Oh now, you're so close to it.

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Speaker 2: Tell me the biggest difference from like, because I know

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Speaker 4: To do before the games. We talked to John Superstitions.

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Speaker 4: The Superstittion got you between baseball and football. I know

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Speaker 3: More, right Yeah, oh yeah, that's tell me the.

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Speaker 2: Biggest difference in the locker rooms going from football to

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Speaker 5: Well, first of all, baseball locker room is so much

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Speaker 5: I mean, I enjoyed that. I still have some great friends,

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Speaker 5: Maybe it's because the physical aspect of the game and

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Speaker 1: If we don't do that, I say that's probably the

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Speaker 1: biggest difference I noticed. Do you think baseball helped you

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Speaker 3: Definitely? I think all three sports.

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Speaker 5: I played football, basketball, and baseball in high school and

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Speaker 5: mean not until my senior year freshman did my speech start.

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Speaker 5: But you could not bun on me at two seventy five.

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Speaker 4: That's wild. Ain't anything wild?

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Speaker 3: Yeah? We had Ronnie A.

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Speaker 2: I want to know, like, is it is it because

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Speaker 3: You leave lead.

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Speaker 5: We were three four deep when I was at SC.

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Speaker 1: That's killing the game. I was a college football. Do

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Speaker 3: Where do you hang your hat?

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Speaker 5: I mean, what guys do you hang with forty five

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Speaker 4: Huh?

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Speaker 3: Right exactly, and the better yourself.

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Speaker 4: We have lived life, so we appreciate it.

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Speaker 2: Yes, and it is a unique experience where you have

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Speaker 4: Like I just filling that.

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Speaker 1: You can't just writen me like that first thing in

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, it's anything you want about a protein.

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Speaker 5: So we're watching the National Championship game between the SEC

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Speaker 5: that and they're like okay because my son, okay, see.

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Speaker 3: Where's all the steed?

443
00:18:09,560 --> 00:18:11,440
Speaker 5: After that, they didn't say a word the whole game

444
00:18:11,440 --> 00:18:13,359
Speaker 5: because I think they just smacked down.

445
00:18:13,600 --> 00:18:16,199
Speaker 4: It was like crazy, Yeah, it was funny. But the

446
00:18:16,240 --> 00:18:18,359
Speaker 4: big tim one the last last two, so that's true.

447
00:18:18,440 --> 00:18:19,160
Speaker 3: I give them the props.

448
00:18:19,200 --> 00:18:22,080
Speaker 1: Now we're going to take a short break and we'll

449
00:18:22,080 --> 00:18:27,080
Speaker 1: be right back. So we alluded to some of this

450
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Speaker 1: a little bit earlier. NFL Top one hundred player you know,

451
00:18:31,000 --> 00:18:34,119
Speaker 1: the NFL has been around since nineteen twenty and I

452
00:18:34,200 --> 00:18:37,840
Speaker 1: believe nineteen or I'm sorry, twenty twenties when they came

453
00:18:37,840 --> 00:18:42,080
Speaker 1: out with that team. And there's been thousands of players,

454
00:18:42,200 --> 00:18:45,719
Speaker 1: not just offensive lineman, there's been thousands of players that

455
00:18:45,760 --> 00:18:49,720
Speaker 1: have come through this league. And you were a top

456
00:18:49,880 --> 00:18:52,840
Speaker 1: one hundred player out of all the people that have

457
00:18:52,880 --> 00:18:55,679
Speaker 1: been in this league. What does that feel like like

458
00:18:55,720 --> 00:18:58,000
Speaker 1: when you got that? And I mean it's one thing

459
00:18:58,000 --> 00:19:00,480
Speaker 1: to get the gold jacket. Yeah, you got the maroon

460
00:19:00,840 --> 00:19:02,600
Speaker 1: like that, that that wine, Jackie.

461
00:19:03,160 --> 00:19:04,199
Speaker 4: What did that feel like?

462
00:19:04,840 --> 00:19:05,680
Speaker 3: I mean, it was amazing.

463
00:19:05,760 --> 00:19:07,440
Speaker 5: You know, we're down Miami for the Super Bowl and

464
00:19:07,440 --> 00:19:08,800
Speaker 5: they put us all in the same hotel.

465
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Speaker 3: I'm just walking around, but you're right.

466
00:19:10,600 --> 00:19:12,200
Speaker 5: I mean, we have three hundred and eighty two guys

467
00:19:12,280 --> 00:19:14,439
Speaker 5: in the Hall of Fame and there's just one hundred

468
00:19:14,480 --> 00:19:16,720
Speaker 5: guys in the all time hundred team. And you know,

469
00:19:16,760 --> 00:19:20,879
Speaker 5: the selectors were pretty impressive, I mean knowledgeable. So it's like, man,

470
00:19:21,040 --> 00:19:23,560
Speaker 5: so it was a compliment. I mean to be around

471
00:19:23,600 --> 00:19:29,439
Speaker 5: those guys, and you know, again, to me, I have

472
00:19:29,560 --> 00:19:32,080
Speaker 5: to look at the journey because I think about you know,

473
00:19:32,160 --> 00:19:33,640
Speaker 5: you have to do a look at my knees, and

474
00:19:33,920 --> 00:19:36,760
Speaker 5: you know the three knee operators in college. Playing one

475
00:19:36,800 --> 00:19:40,840
Speaker 5: game my senior year, got hurt, the first game surgery rehabit,

476
00:19:40,840 --> 00:19:41,919
Speaker 5: and I played in the Rose Bowl. That was the

477
00:19:41,920 --> 00:19:44,360
Speaker 5: only game I played. And everybody's saying, that's a great

478
00:19:44,359 --> 00:19:47,000
Speaker 5: way to end their career. Go on, find something else

479
00:19:47,040 --> 00:19:49,280
Speaker 5: to do. You know, you played in the Rose Bowl.

480
00:19:49,320 --> 00:19:51,439
Speaker 5: That's what you wanted to do with your guys. And

481
00:19:51,480 --> 00:19:53,119
Speaker 5: I said, well, I'm just going to keep busting it,

482
00:19:53,640 --> 00:19:56,879
Speaker 5: hopefully even as a free agent, because before my senior

483
00:19:56,960 --> 00:19:58,120
Speaker 5: year projected top ten.

484
00:19:58,240 --> 00:19:59,000
Speaker 3: After that third d.

485
00:19:59,119 --> 00:20:02,000
Speaker 5: Operation, free agent, maybe not even the chance. So I

486
00:20:02,040 --> 00:20:04,240
Speaker 5: just want a chance to get in an NFL camp.

487
00:20:04,640 --> 00:20:06,199
Speaker 5: I wanted to compete. I just want to see if

488
00:20:06,240 --> 00:20:10,440
Speaker 5: I could compete. And so thinking about Hall of Fame

489
00:20:10,640 --> 00:20:13,400
Speaker 5: top one hundred, I just think about that support group

490
00:20:13,440 --> 00:20:16,040
Speaker 5: earlier you mentioned, and I kind of took it as

491
00:20:16,040 --> 00:20:18,800
Speaker 5: self made. You know, people taught, and I laugh when

492
00:20:18,920 --> 00:20:21,720
Speaker 5: they say this self made guy, self made late and

493
00:20:21,760 --> 00:20:24,320
Speaker 5: then all of a sudden they get an accolade. They're

494
00:20:24,320 --> 00:20:25,920
Speaker 5: going to give a speech and they have like five

495
00:20:25,960 --> 00:20:29,040
Speaker 5: pages of people they're thinking, and I'm thinking, if you're

496
00:20:29,119 --> 00:20:30,879
Speaker 5: self made, don't you get up to the podium and

497
00:20:30,880 --> 00:20:31,959
Speaker 5: say I want to thank myself.

498
00:20:32,000 --> 00:20:33,040
Speaker 3: I want to thank myself.

499
00:20:33,160 --> 00:20:36,200
Speaker 5: I did a great job. But now they're thinking high

500
00:20:36,200 --> 00:20:39,560
Speaker 5: school teachers, aunts and uncles, and that's the same way.

501
00:20:39,600 --> 00:20:42,600
Speaker 5: I mean, I'm thankful for the medical staff, the training staff,

502
00:20:42,760 --> 00:20:45,080
Speaker 5: my college teammates that encouraged me. Of course, my wife

503
00:20:45,119 --> 00:20:47,280
Speaker 5: that was with me every step of the way, and

504
00:20:47,359 --> 00:20:51,040
Speaker 5: family and just all the encouragement I had, even trying

505
00:20:51,040 --> 00:20:53,080
Speaker 5: to stay away from reading he's not going to play

506
00:20:53,080 --> 00:20:55,639
Speaker 5: in the NFL. And then for the Bengals to pick me,

507
00:20:55,800 --> 00:20:57,399
Speaker 5: not only draft me, but it's the third pick in

508
00:20:57,440 --> 00:20:59,399
Speaker 5: the draft and give me a chance to go to

509
00:20:59,400 --> 00:21:02,840
Speaker 5: an NFL camp, it makes that you know, Hall of

510
00:21:02,880 --> 00:21:07,760
Speaker 5: fame and then just even more like wow, humble because

511
00:21:08,000 --> 00:21:09,880
Speaker 5: here I was, I wasn't even to get a chance,

512
00:21:09,920 --> 00:21:12,040
Speaker 5: but half more than half the teams failed me in

513
00:21:12,080 --> 00:21:14,720
Speaker 5: the physical and the Bengals said, hey, we watched that

514
00:21:14,800 --> 00:21:16,399
Speaker 5: Rose Bowl. We're going to take you, and you know,

515
00:21:16,480 --> 00:21:19,520
Speaker 5: to be able to play for them, and to be

516
00:21:19,520 --> 00:21:21,320
Speaker 5: able to play for a few more games than I

517
00:21:21,320 --> 00:21:24,960
Speaker 5: did at USC it just but it's really humbling to

518
00:21:25,000 --> 00:21:27,919
Speaker 5: sit around with all these guys and guys that played

519
00:21:27,920 --> 00:21:30,560
Speaker 5: way before I played, a little before guys I played with,

520
00:21:30,840 --> 00:21:33,119
Speaker 5: and guys that played after I played, and to just

521
00:21:33,160 --> 00:21:36,199
Speaker 5: think about man, and you're right. You think about the

522
00:21:36,320 --> 00:21:38,639
Speaker 5: number of individuals that have played this game and that

523
00:21:38,720 --> 00:21:41,920
Speaker 5: they've taken one hundred all time, and they're going to say, Okay,

524
00:21:41,920 --> 00:21:45,600
Speaker 5: you're the one hundred top. It's just to be mentioned

525
00:21:45,600 --> 00:21:47,280
Speaker 5: with the other linement, which is pretty cool.

526
00:21:47,880 --> 00:21:51,240
Speaker 1: We've all been humbled in this league at some point

527
00:21:51,320 --> 00:21:54,600
Speaker 1: or another. And I remember my you know, my rookie year,

528
00:21:54,800 --> 00:21:58,480
Speaker 1: my first training camp, I was humbled fairly quickly about

529
00:21:58,480 --> 00:22:03,120
Speaker 1: Olin Cruiz. You you have a welcome to the NFL.

530
00:22:02,800 --> 00:22:04,560
Speaker 3: Moment, Yeah, I do. So.

531
00:22:04,680 --> 00:22:07,399
Speaker 5: My first head coach Forrest Greg Hall of Fame tackle

532
00:22:07,440 --> 00:22:10,160
Speaker 5: Green Bay Packers. So we go up to Green Bay

533
00:22:10,400 --> 00:22:13,920
Speaker 5: to play where he played, and I'll never forget as

534
00:22:13,960 --> 00:22:16,560
Speaker 5: a rookie, I've been called out in front of my

535
00:22:16,600 --> 00:22:19,240
Speaker 5: teammates one time, and that was by my Hall of

536
00:22:19,240 --> 00:22:23,919
Speaker 5: Fame tackle head coach because their defensive end had a

537
00:22:23,920 --> 00:22:25,679
Speaker 5: really good game. And not only do they have a

538
00:22:25,680 --> 00:22:27,760
Speaker 5: good game against me, they pulled them out in the

539
00:22:27,840 --> 00:22:29,680
Speaker 5: last few minutes. And he's sitting on the bench real

540
00:22:29,720 --> 00:22:31,560
Speaker 5: close to the side and a fan handed him a

541
00:22:31,600 --> 00:22:33,760
Speaker 5: hot dog and he's eating a hot dog before the

542
00:22:33,800 --> 00:22:36,920
Speaker 5: game was over. So at our meeting Monday morning, man,

543
00:22:36,960 --> 00:22:39,280
Speaker 5: he got up and he's talking. He goes and you

544
00:22:39,640 --> 00:22:42,920
Speaker 5: our number one. Bit he goes touch and just had

545
00:22:42,960 --> 00:22:44,480
Speaker 5: his game and then he's in and he goes and

546
00:22:44,520 --> 00:22:44,920
Speaker 5: I'm like.

547
00:22:45,400 --> 00:22:48,160
Speaker 3: That will be the last time that that's going to happen.

548
00:22:49,000 --> 00:22:51,400
Speaker 5: So that was as a coach, and then I had

549
00:22:51,520 --> 00:22:53,560
Speaker 5: another one early in my career. We're playing the New

550
00:22:53,560 --> 00:22:56,160
Speaker 5: England Patriots and early on I showed that I could

551
00:22:56,200 --> 00:22:57,119
Speaker 5: pull so for a tackle.

552
00:22:57,160 --> 00:22:58,960
Speaker 3: The pool is rare, but we had to play.

553
00:22:58,960 --> 00:23:02,240
Speaker 5: And I still remember to play onto I release left tackle,

554
00:23:02,320 --> 00:23:05,679
Speaker 5: I would pull all the way around strong guard and

555
00:23:06,200 --> 00:23:08,640
Speaker 5: the on side backer. They have a backer that's about

556
00:23:08,680 --> 00:23:12,159
Speaker 5: six five two fifty Steve Nelson. Our sidelines here, and

557
00:23:12,200 --> 00:23:14,919
Speaker 5: my whole thing was when I pulled, get the shoulders,

558
00:23:14,920 --> 00:23:18,000
Speaker 5: turned up back and boom, then go up. I did

559
00:23:18,040 --> 00:23:21,199
Speaker 5: not get my shoulders. I come here, Steve Nelson, and

560
00:23:21,440 --> 00:23:24,800
Speaker 5: just as I started to turn, boom, he hit me in.

561
00:23:24,880 --> 00:23:29,280
Speaker 5: All my teammates on the side and go cause he unloaded. Man,

562
00:23:29,320 --> 00:23:31,560
Speaker 5: And I was like, and I tell people, you get

563
00:23:31,640 --> 00:23:33,359
Speaker 5: knocked out I don't care who you are as a

564
00:23:33,400 --> 00:23:36,200
Speaker 5: football player, Hall of Him. We all get knocked down. Yeah,

565
00:23:36,320 --> 00:23:37,960
Speaker 5: we get knocked down in life. How are you going

566
00:23:38,040 --> 00:23:40,800
Speaker 5: to get back up and believe me? I got up

567
00:23:40,840 --> 00:23:41,359
Speaker 5: in a hurry.

568
00:23:41,560 --> 00:23:42,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, I got up in a hurry.

569
00:23:42,800 --> 00:23:44,760
Speaker 5: I got back in the huddle and said, Okay, that's

570
00:23:44,760 --> 00:23:45,680
Speaker 5: not going to happen again.

571
00:23:45,920 --> 00:23:48,600
Speaker 1: So after after all that happened, right, so my I

572
00:23:48,640 --> 00:23:50,760
Speaker 1: think my rookie year, I knew I was pretty good

573
00:23:50,800 --> 00:23:53,080
Speaker 1: after I made I made a play against Randy moss right,

574
00:23:53,080 --> 00:23:54,800
Speaker 1: I Randy Mosses in his prime.

575
00:23:55,400 --> 00:23:56,400
Speaker 3: I go up, I get into.

576
00:23:56,240 --> 00:23:59,400
Speaker 1: A reception and I'm telling myself like, damn, okay, I'm

577
00:23:59,400 --> 00:24:02,280
Speaker 1: from the small school, but I think I can. I

578
00:24:02,359 --> 00:24:04,040
Speaker 1: think I can plain in this league with these cass

579
00:24:04,040 --> 00:24:06,320
Speaker 1: I just did this ragne them most like it helped

580
00:24:06,320 --> 00:24:10,840
Speaker 1: my confidence. Was there a play that made you think

581
00:24:10,840 --> 00:24:14,440
Speaker 1: to yourself, oh, man, I could dominate this league? When

582
00:24:14,440 --> 00:24:16,199
Speaker 1: did you know you could be a dominant player.

583
00:24:16,440 --> 00:24:18,760
Speaker 5: When I got to camp and I earned the starting

584
00:24:18,840 --> 00:24:20,600
Speaker 5: job three days in the camp because of what I

585
00:24:20,720 --> 00:24:24,120
Speaker 5: was doing, it was like, you know, I was going

586
00:24:24,119 --> 00:24:26,000
Speaker 5: against guys that have played at Notre Dame and they're

587
00:24:26,000 --> 00:24:27,800
Speaker 5: in the league for a while, and I was able

588
00:24:27,840 --> 00:24:29,960
Speaker 5: to pass block and run block, and I said, man,

589
00:24:30,480 --> 00:24:33,480
Speaker 5: I said, I'm thankful they drafted me. And the first

590
00:24:33,520 --> 00:24:35,200
Speaker 5: thing that came to my mind is that, Remember I

591
00:24:35,240 --> 00:24:37,159
Speaker 5: said I wanted a chance to go to camp to

592
00:24:37,200 --> 00:24:37,679
Speaker 5: see if.

593
00:24:37,520 --> 00:24:38,159
Speaker 3: I could compete.

594
00:24:38,560 --> 00:24:41,480
Speaker 5: I told myself, I can compete in this league. And

595
00:24:41,480 --> 00:24:43,200
Speaker 5: all of a sudden, I started saying, goes, I don't

596
00:24:43,200 --> 00:24:44,760
Speaker 5: only want to compete, I want to be the best.

597
00:24:44,760 --> 00:24:46,520
Speaker 5: I want to be a pro bowler every year. But

598
00:24:46,680 --> 00:24:50,000
Speaker 5: first three days in camp and then that first preseason game,

599
00:24:50,040 --> 00:24:52,520
Speaker 5: I said, okay, there you go. You got lee Roy

600
00:24:52,600 --> 00:24:56,240
Speaker 5: Salmon right across from Tampa Bay. And then three weeks

601
00:24:56,320 --> 00:24:57,920
Speaker 5: later I opened up with Tampa and I got le

602
00:24:58,040 --> 00:25:01,280
Speaker 5: Roy Salmon again, you know. And so it was early

603
00:25:01,320 --> 00:25:03,440
Speaker 5: on when I said I believe I can compete in

604
00:25:03,480 --> 00:25:03,960
Speaker 5: this league.

605
00:25:04,640 --> 00:25:06,679
Speaker 2: So you're not the only tackle that has mentioned Lee

606
00:25:06,720 --> 00:25:09,080
Speaker 2: Roy Selvin. I want to get to that in a second,

607
00:25:09,119 --> 00:25:11,320
Speaker 2: but I want to kind of go back a little bit.

608
00:25:11,800 --> 00:25:14,359
Speaker 2: You know, you mentioned your college. You haven't hurt, you

609
00:25:14,359 --> 00:25:16,959
Speaker 2: were you had three knee surgeries. You're only healthy your

610
00:25:16,960 --> 00:25:21,639
Speaker 2: sophomore year. Your senior year, you played two games, and

611
00:25:21,680 --> 00:25:24,400
Speaker 2: so you only played sixteen games total in college?

612
00:25:24,720 --> 00:25:28,560
Speaker 5: Was a few more so nine my freshman year twelve

613
00:25:29,040 --> 00:25:31,840
Speaker 5: twenty one, and then seven, so about twenty six games.

614
00:25:31,880 --> 00:25:33,800
Speaker 4: Okay, about twenty six games total in.

615
00:25:33,800 --> 00:25:35,800
Speaker 3: College out of about forty four to fifteen.

616
00:25:35,920 --> 00:25:39,960
Speaker 2: Okay, all that being said, you only missed ten when

617
00:25:39,960 --> 00:25:43,200
Speaker 2: you got to the NFL throughout your thirteen year career.

618
00:25:43,640 --> 00:25:45,679
Speaker 2: How much pride do you take in that, because, like

619
00:25:45,720 --> 00:25:48,000
Speaker 2: you said, it was all the doubt leading up to it,

620
00:25:48,400 --> 00:25:50,040
Speaker 2: and you said, you know, I put all that down

621
00:25:50,240 --> 00:25:50,680
Speaker 2: and then you.

622
00:25:50,600 --> 00:25:52,320
Speaker 4: Were able to stay healthy for your whole career.

623
00:25:52,520 --> 00:25:54,199
Speaker 3: But jority of you, well, I think the key for

624
00:25:54,280 --> 00:25:56,360
Speaker 3: me was my workouts for alignment.

625
00:25:56,920 --> 00:25:59,680
Speaker 5: I lifted, of course, lifted like crazy, but running was

626
00:25:59,680 --> 00:26:01,280
Speaker 5: a big part of my work and I ran.

627
00:26:01,720 --> 00:26:04,879
Speaker 3: I ran a lot of distance. Like let's take my

628
00:26:04,960 --> 00:26:05,440
Speaker 3: rookie year.

629
00:26:05,440 --> 00:26:06,879
Speaker 5: I took a day off after that last game and

630
00:26:06,880 --> 00:26:08,560
Speaker 5: I started running distance for about two months.

631
00:26:08,560 --> 00:26:10,520
Speaker 3: I was like four to six mile a day guy.

632
00:26:10,960 --> 00:26:13,719
Speaker 5: So I felt the better shape I was in and

633
00:26:13,760 --> 00:26:15,840
Speaker 5: the stronger I was, I was going to cut down

634
00:26:15,840 --> 00:26:19,560
Speaker 5: the risk of injury. So being physically as strong and

635
00:26:19,600 --> 00:26:21,720
Speaker 5: as you know, when I got to camp, I didn't

636
00:26:21,720 --> 00:26:24,600
Speaker 5: worry about my cardio. I could get through practice and

637
00:26:24,640 --> 00:26:26,720
Speaker 5: we'd do our gassers and I would just I would

638
00:26:26,760 --> 00:26:30,919
Speaker 5: breeze through them. And so when I got drafted, you know,

639
00:26:30,960 --> 00:26:34,480
Speaker 5: you have your team goals, Playoff, super Bowl, but a

640
00:26:34,520 --> 00:26:36,600
Speaker 5: lot of my personal goals were every time I put

641
00:26:36,600 --> 00:26:38,800
Speaker 5: the Bengal uniform on, I want to be there for

642
00:26:38,920 --> 00:26:41,240
Speaker 5: my teammates. I want to be there every Sunday for

643
00:26:41,359 --> 00:26:44,360
Speaker 5: my teammates, and I'm going to do whatever I can. Yeah,

644
00:26:44,840 --> 00:26:46,639
Speaker 5: you know, there's a lot of things out of your control,

645
00:26:46,720 --> 00:26:48,600
Speaker 5: getting hurt, stuff, But I want to be in the

646
00:26:48,640 --> 00:26:50,920
Speaker 5: best shape so when I'm going full speed, I can

647
00:26:51,000 --> 00:26:52,920
Speaker 5: bounce right back up. And you know, I had things

648
00:26:52,960 --> 00:26:55,280
Speaker 5: here and there. But you know, I'm very grateful that

649
00:26:55,320 --> 00:26:57,120
Speaker 5: I was able to play that many games. I missed

650
00:26:57,119 --> 00:27:00,679
Speaker 5: my first game year eleven, I had a dislocated you know,

651
00:27:01,040 --> 00:27:03,680
Speaker 5: linebacker hit me from behind after the play was whistled dead.

652
00:27:04,320 --> 00:27:07,160
Speaker 5: So I had dislocated elbosh. I missed the last two

653
00:27:07,200 --> 00:27:10,399
Speaker 5: games and that was my you know, fourteenth week fourteen,

654
00:27:10,480 --> 00:27:14,520
Speaker 5: my eleventh year, and so that was you know, to me,

655
00:27:15,240 --> 00:27:17,360
Speaker 5: not only was it my job, and I said, you.

656
00:27:17,320 --> 00:27:18,120
Speaker 3: Know, it's my job.

657
00:27:18,160 --> 00:27:19,840
Speaker 5: So I'm gonna be ready and I'm gonna be out there.

658
00:27:20,280 --> 00:27:23,040
Speaker 5: I want my teammates to trust and believe that I'm

659
00:27:23,080 --> 00:27:25,119
Speaker 5: going to be ready every Sunday to go out there

660
00:27:25,160 --> 00:27:26,400
Speaker 5: with them, And that was my whole goal.

661
00:27:26,520 --> 00:27:29,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, to say you were ready is probably

662
00:27:29,280 --> 00:27:31,040
Speaker 2: the understatement of the of the day.

663
00:27:31,040 --> 00:27:33,560
Speaker 4: But I appreciate you being this humble shoar entity.

664
00:27:34,960 --> 00:27:37,960
Speaker 2: You were either you were selected either first team or

665
00:27:38,080 --> 00:27:41,439
Speaker 2: second team All Pro every single season. I'm sure you

666
00:27:41,480 --> 00:27:43,560
Speaker 2: know this, but I want to make sure you were

667
00:27:43,600 --> 00:27:46,240
Speaker 2: two years except for two years out of your whole career,

668
00:27:46,359 --> 00:27:48,160
Speaker 2: which is your rookie year and your last year.

669
00:27:48,760 --> 00:27:49,879
Speaker 4: Like when you're saying.

670
00:27:49,600 --> 00:27:52,520
Speaker 2: These stats, like I know you've heard them, but like,

671
00:27:52,600 --> 00:27:55,760
Speaker 2: how do you even kind of quantify the level of

672
00:27:55,760 --> 00:27:58,040
Speaker 2: success that you were able to have? Or like when

673
00:27:58,040 --> 00:28:00,240
Speaker 2: people tell you these things, you know you can't just

674
00:28:00,240 --> 00:28:02,879
Speaker 2: brush it off anymore. Explain this to me like a

675
00:28:02,920 --> 00:28:04,960
Speaker 2: normal person when we bring up stats like this that

676
00:28:05,119 --> 00:28:05,960
Speaker 2: nobody else has.

677
00:28:06,000 --> 00:28:08,480
Speaker 3: What So I go right back to preparation.

678
00:28:08,640 --> 00:28:10,679
Speaker 5: I think if you're a businessman and you're in the

679
00:28:10,720 --> 00:28:12,840
Speaker 5: top of your field, it's because if you're staying on

680
00:28:12,920 --> 00:28:15,760
Speaker 5: top of your craft, you're learning everything you need to

681
00:28:15,840 --> 00:28:19,320
Speaker 5: learn about your business. And that was what the approach

682
00:28:19,359 --> 00:28:22,119
Speaker 5: I took my off season was just not running and lifting.

683
00:28:22,320 --> 00:28:24,919
Speaker 5: It was lifting, running and then take some time to

684
00:28:24,920 --> 00:28:27,600
Speaker 5: do my technique. I wanted to go into camp work.

685
00:28:28,000 --> 00:28:30,040
Speaker 5: I did apply a metric. So when I got into

686
00:28:30,080 --> 00:28:32,520
Speaker 5: camp and my first one on one pass pro, I

687
00:28:32,520 --> 00:28:34,639
Speaker 5: didn't feel like I had two left feet. I felt

688
00:28:34,640 --> 00:28:37,000
Speaker 5: like I'd been passed proing all off season because of

689
00:28:37,000 --> 00:28:39,680
Speaker 5: the plios I did. So it was about and then

690
00:28:39,840 --> 00:28:42,160
Speaker 5: studying film insteading, Okay, you got to do this better,

691
00:28:42,160 --> 00:28:44,440
Speaker 5: you get so I really believe that was the key.

692
00:28:45,200 --> 00:28:48,160
Speaker 5: And every year I said, okay, you're five, it's four

693
00:28:48,200 --> 00:28:50,800
Speaker 5: Pro Bowls in a row. I got to turn up

694
00:28:51,120 --> 00:28:53,600
Speaker 5: preparation in the off season. I got to do even

695
00:28:53,640 --> 00:28:56,920
Speaker 5: more and focus more on the technique, get even stronger,

696
00:28:57,040 --> 00:28:59,080
Speaker 5: try to get stronger, stay on top of that and

697
00:28:59,120 --> 00:28:59,800
Speaker 5: my conditioning.

698
00:29:00,240 --> 00:29:00,480
Speaker 3: Run.

699
00:29:00,960 --> 00:29:04,320
Speaker 5: I mean the test. We did an example my last year.

700
00:29:04,360 --> 00:29:06,479
Speaker 5: I'm thirty four years old and we have to do

701
00:29:06,600 --> 00:29:10,400
Speaker 5: a mile. So there's Tim Krumrai crazy the tackle who

702
00:29:10,400 --> 00:29:13,680
Speaker 5: did mini triathlons, and myself, so we had eight and

703
00:29:13,680 --> 00:29:14,760
Speaker 5: a half minutes to run a mile.

704
00:29:14,880 --> 00:29:17,320
Speaker 3: O line d line together. Do we line up?

705
00:29:17,320 --> 00:29:18,640
Speaker 5: And I looked at Tim, he looks at me, and

706
00:29:18,720 --> 00:29:21,400
Speaker 5: we win and we say do we take off? And

707
00:29:21,440 --> 00:29:23,840
Speaker 5: we do it like in six forty six point fifty,

708
00:29:24,080 --> 00:29:27,000
Speaker 5: and all the young linemen are complaining, say, hey, I'm

709
00:29:27,040 --> 00:29:29,080
Speaker 5: an older guy and I gotta I gotta show this

710
00:29:29,160 --> 00:29:31,120
Speaker 5: team that I can still. So that was the key

711
00:29:31,160 --> 00:29:34,160
Speaker 5: I prepared for that. And all the other position guys

712
00:29:34,160 --> 00:29:35,680
Speaker 5: were like, what are you guys doing. We have this

713
00:29:35,800 --> 00:29:38,000
Speaker 5: much time, We're not gonna I say, guys, we're getting

714
00:29:38,040 --> 00:29:40,200
Speaker 5: ready for a season. Man, if you want to win,

715
00:29:40,760 --> 00:29:42,640
Speaker 5: you go out and prepare to be the best. So

716
00:29:42,680 --> 00:29:45,440
Speaker 5: that was to me to stay on top of my craft.

717
00:29:45,760 --> 00:29:49,280
Speaker 5: I did everything from January to July that I possibly

718
00:29:49,320 --> 00:29:51,320
Speaker 5: could do, so when I went to camp, all I

719
00:29:51,360 --> 00:29:53,959
Speaker 5: had to worry about was my blocking combinations and just

720
00:29:54,280 --> 00:29:56,600
Speaker 5: you know with my linemen, my you know, the football part.

721
00:29:56,640 --> 00:29:58,320
Speaker 5: But I don't have to worry about my conditioning. I

722
00:29:58,320 --> 00:30:00,960
Speaker 5: didn't have, So I believe that's what allowed me to

723
00:30:01,000 --> 00:30:05,040
Speaker 5: go in year one, year ten, and even year thirteen,

724
00:30:05,080 --> 00:30:06,800
Speaker 5: even though I got I was on IR a couple

725
00:30:06,760 --> 00:30:10,000
Speaker 5: of times. I could probably run a lot more Year

726
00:30:10,120 --> 00:30:11,760
Speaker 5: thirteen than I could Year nine.

727
00:30:11,960 --> 00:30:12,959
Speaker 4: You just kept turning it up.

728
00:30:13,000 --> 00:30:15,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, you just keep turning the vall. I just keep turning.

729
00:30:15,680 --> 00:30:17,880
Speaker 5: One of the things my daughter, you know last weekcause

730
00:30:17,880 --> 00:30:19,800
Speaker 5: she was we call her the best athlete. You know.

731
00:30:19,840 --> 00:30:22,320
Speaker 5: You talk about our grandkids, but our daughter. She was

732
00:30:22,360 --> 00:30:24,640
Speaker 5: a two time Miss Basketball, two times D one player

733
00:30:24,640 --> 00:30:26,840
Speaker 5: that year. And know how I went to Tennessee and

734
00:30:26,920 --> 00:30:28,800
Speaker 5: of course I played cup, but I never gave her

735
00:30:28,840 --> 00:30:31,280
Speaker 5: any basketball. The only thing I would do during the

736
00:30:31,360 --> 00:30:33,760
Speaker 5: game is if I know something she would look, I

737
00:30:33,760 --> 00:30:37,200
Speaker 5: would go turn it up. I'd go turn it up.

738
00:30:37,560 --> 00:30:40,040
Speaker 5: And she jokes about that. Now she goes, that's all

739
00:30:40,120 --> 00:30:42,720
Speaker 5: that to her boys. Her boys fourteen and fifteen tore

740
00:30:42,760 --> 00:30:46,120
Speaker 5: like six eight. Now I'm looking up and that's all

741
00:30:46,160 --> 00:30:48,600
Speaker 5: she talks about is turning up the volume, the intensity.

742
00:30:48,680 --> 00:30:50,840
Speaker 5: And to me, that's what it was all about. Attitude.

743
00:30:51,040 --> 00:30:54,120
Speaker 4: I love that for you. Just keep being a sports brand,

744
00:30:54,320 --> 00:30:55,080
Speaker 4: a sports parent.

745
00:30:55,840 --> 00:30:56,960
Speaker 3: Oh it's cool. I love it.

746
00:30:57,280 --> 00:30:58,520
Speaker 1: So what do I want to I want to talk

747
00:30:58,520 --> 00:31:02,160
Speaker 1: about a Super Bowl real quick, super Bowl twenty three.

748
00:31:02,360 --> 00:31:04,200
Speaker 1: Where were you thinking when you were on the sideline

749
00:31:04,480 --> 00:31:07,160
Speaker 1: and you see Joe Montana come in with three minutes

750
00:31:07,240 --> 00:31:09,040
Speaker 1: left in the fourth quarter and they take the lead

751
00:31:09,120 --> 00:31:10,040
Speaker 1: sixteen to thirteen.

752
00:31:10,160 --> 00:31:12,160
Speaker 5: So when he first came in, you know, a deep

753
00:31:12,720 --> 00:31:15,320
Speaker 5: eight yard line. Then they start down. I'm thinking, if

754
00:31:15,320 --> 00:31:20,000
Speaker 5: I only had Bruce Smith pass rushing ability to go

755
00:31:20,040 --> 00:31:22,080
Speaker 5: ahead and help my defense and get some pass rush

756
00:31:22,160 --> 00:31:24,840
Speaker 5: on him. You know, it's crazy because Jerry Rice had

757
00:31:24,880 --> 00:31:27,720
Speaker 5: I think over two hundred yards felt helpless there.

758
00:31:28,000 --> 00:31:28,520
Speaker 3: Just watch it.

759
00:31:28,680 --> 00:31:30,360
Speaker 4: I know that feeling, unfortunately.

760
00:31:30,400 --> 00:31:33,680
Speaker 2: So I want to talk about, you know, another record

761
00:31:33,720 --> 00:31:37,520
Speaker 2: that you have and is that you were tied for

762
00:31:37,800 --> 00:31:41,760
Speaker 2: all time with four touchdowns for offensive linment. But I

763
00:31:41,880 --> 00:31:45,280
Speaker 2: want to talk about specifically your favorite, at least that's

764
00:31:45,280 --> 00:31:48,040
Speaker 2: what you've told people before, your first one.

765
00:31:48,080 --> 00:31:51,720
Speaker 3: That's easy. Cleveland were part right down the street.

766
00:31:52,040 --> 00:31:55,040
Speaker 5: Talk about it, tell me about it, call me all right,

767
00:31:55,280 --> 00:31:59,560
Speaker 5: Sam Weiss, rookie head coach Kenny Anderson started quarterback hurt

768
00:31:59,760 --> 00:32:03,280
Speaker 5: or back up the Boomerasias and rookie. He's left hander,

769
00:32:03,640 --> 00:32:07,000
Speaker 5: he's in. I mean, it's muddy, it's terrible. And so

770
00:32:07,080 --> 00:32:09,960
Speaker 5: we're up in Cleveland, and so we're down seventeen to ten,

771
00:32:10,480 --> 00:32:11,760
Speaker 5: forty some seconds left.

772
00:32:12,000 --> 00:32:12,520
Speaker 3: They're punting.

773
00:32:12,520 --> 00:32:14,000
Speaker 5: All they gotta do is punt it away. We have

774
00:32:14,080 --> 00:32:17,480
Speaker 5: no timeouts. They pinised deep. There's no way Rodney Holman

775
00:32:17,640 --> 00:32:20,320
Speaker 5: goes through tight end blocks the punt. Now we got

776
00:32:20,360 --> 00:32:22,120
Speaker 5: the ball, we had a little life, so we're going down.

777
00:32:22,840 --> 00:32:25,040
Speaker 5: Pass interference on the one, so we get at the

778
00:32:25,080 --> 00:32:27,480
Speaker 5: one yard line. And that was the first week, first

779
00:32:27,520 --> 00:32:29,880
Speaker 5: week that Sam put in. We called it our we

780
00:32:30,040 --> 00:32:33,160
Speaker 5: be goal line because when we've get in that formation,

781
00:32:33,720 --> 00:32:37,080
Speaker 5: we be scoring. So he put in two more linemen.

782
00:32:37,120 --> 00:32:38,960
Speaker 5: Then he put that was the first time he put

783
00:32:39,040 --> 00:32:42,440
Speaker 5: me at H back. It was always tight end h back.

784
00:32:42,880 --> 00:32:44,640
Speaker 5: But that was the first week that he had a

785
00:32:44,720 --> 00:32:49,320
Speaker 5: play designed twenty eight Anthony bounce touch down, and it

786
00:32:49,400 --> 00:32:51,640
Speaker 5: was on the play sheet. I said, there's no way

787
00:32:51,840 --> 00:32:54,840
Speaker 5: they'll ever call it. So, you know, Sam and the

788
00:32:54,920 --> 00:32:57,280
Speaker 5: quarterbacks always signal in plays, you know, they tell him,

789
00:32:57,320 --> 00:32:57,680
Speaker 5: tell them.

790
00:32:57,600 --> 00:32:59,480
Speaker 2: How important, tell the people how important it is to

791
00:32:59,520 --> 00:33:02,000
Speaker 2: make sure you catch the ball when you actually call

792
00:33:02,040 --> 00:33:02,360
Speaker 2: this play.

793
00:33:02,440 --> 00:33:03,000
Speaker 3: Press Okay.

794
00:33:03,040 --> 00:33:06,240
Speaker 5: So the importance being in Cleveland is that I either

795
00:33:06,320 --> 00:33:07,920
Speaker 5: fly home with the team or I walk home.

796
00:33:08,120 --> 00:33:10,320
Speaker 3: Okay, Yeah, that's how important. I mean, come on, that's

797
00:33:10,720 --> 00:33:12,080
Speaker 3: but no interstate rivalry.

798
00:33:12,120 --> 00:33:15,320
Speaker 5: The Cleveland Browns, I mean, Paul Brown was what the

799
00:33:15,360 --> 00:33:16,320
Speaker 5: Cleveland brown started.

800
00:33:16,320 --> 00:33:16,840
Speaker 3: The Bengals.

801
00:33:16,840 --> 00:33:20,800
Speaker 5: The owner Borist Greig my coach, although this was afterwards

802
00:33:20,880 --> 00:33:23,400
Speaker 5: he was fired from Cleveland. But now this is Sam

803
00:33:23,440 --> 00:33:26,480
Speaker 5: Weish's first year, so it's very important. Yes, So I'm

804
00:33:26,520 --> 00:33:28,240
Speaker 5: saying the first time a practice for working.

805
00:33:28,360 --> 00:33:28,480
Speaker 3: You know.

806
00:33:28,480 --> 00:33:30,720
Speaker 5: I feel good about catching the Boomer a couple of time.

807
00:33:30,720 --> 00:33:33,560
Speaker 5: Boomer can throw the ball, you know, but Kenny kind

808
00:33:33,600 --> 00:33:36,280
Speaker 5: of real nice. And so we get in there and

809
00:33:36,320 --> 00:33:38,920
Speaker 5: we block it first and goal seven. Well, I didn't

810
00:33:38,920 --> 00:33:40,520
Speaker 5: know the signals for all the other plays, but I

811
00:33:40,600 --> 00:33:43,600
Speaker 5: knew the signal from Sam to Boomer.

812
00:33:43,520 --> 00:33:44,120
Speaker 3: For this play.

813
00:33:44,160 --> 00:33:46,240
Speaker 5: And I said, so we're in the huddle first and

814
00:33:46,280 --> 00:33:48,080
Speaker 5: goal no time not to the time. I look over

815
00:33:48,960 --> 00:33:52,280
Speaker 5: and Sam is signaling this play. Well, I'm the primary

816
00:33:52,320 --> 00:33:56,200
Speaker 5: receiver offensive tackle at h back, and I'm thinking, holy smokes,

817
00:33:56,240 --> 00:33:57,920
Speaker 5: I said, this guy does not want to be a

818
00:33:57,960 --> 00:34:00,800
Speaker 5: head coach in the NFL. Long say, okay, time to

819
00:34:00,880 --> 00:34:03,000
Speaker 5: catch it. So we line up. If I'm on the

820
00:34:03,080 --> 00:34:06,640
Speaker 5: right h back, I hit, Well, it's ankle deep MUDs

821
00:34:06,720 --> 00:34:09,480
Speaker 5: his bat. We go to the ground and Boomer takes it.

822
00:34:09,520 --> 00:34:12,000
Speaker 5: He's rolling because he's faking, and he's rolling the right

823
00:34:12,040 --> 00:34:15,800
Speaker 5: as a lefty. Well, I fall and he's going that way.

824
00:34:16,000 --> 00:34:18,399
Speaker 5: I go nope, I'm staying right here because boom So.

825
00:34:18,440 --> 00:34:21,560
Speaker 5: The defense gets up. They start chasing, and I just

826
00:34:21,600 --> 00:34:26,640
Speaker 5: settled right here. Boomer stops. Boom, I catch it, touchdown,

827
00:34:27,000 --> 00:34:29,160
Speaker 5: We kick the extra point. Now we're going overtime. That

828
00:34:29,200 --> 00:34:32,000
Speaker 5: takes as an overtime Jim Breach all time leading scorer

829
00:34:32,040 --> 00:34:35,279
Speaker 5: for the Bengals nine for nine and ot kicks x

830
00:34:35,680 --> 00:34:39,200
Speaker 5: field goal. We beat him twenty seventeen in overtime. But

831
00:34:39,239 --> 00:34:41,680
Speaker 5: it was funny, so I gotta share a fast forward now.

832
00:34:41,719 --> 00:34:45,719
Speaker 5: So I grabbed the touchdown the first one, and my lineman, man,

833
00:34:45,760 --> 00:34:47,440
Speaker 5: they're grabbing me, and I was gonna spike it. I

834
00:34:47,480 --> 00:34:49,400
Speaker 5: thought they're gonna rip my shoulder out, so I waited

835
00:34:49,800 --> 00:34:53,759
Speaker 5: for them to leave and then I went boom the

836
00:34:53,800 --> 00:34:57,480
Speaker 5: ball boom So. A couple of years ago, on that date,

837
00:34:57,520 --> 00:34:59,680
Speaker 5: they usually play that video and this young man and

838
00:34:59,719 --> 00:35:03,680
Speaker 5: I rarely answer social media, and I was on Twitter

839
00:35:04,160 --> 00:35:07,560
Speaker 5: and some guy rights, he goes, wow, look at Munyos.

840
00:35:07,560 --> 00:35:09,920
Speaker 3: He grunked at the spike and I looked back.

841
00:35:10,000 --> 00:35:13,960
Speaker 5: I said, excuse me, I said, Gronk Munyas is his

842
00:35:14,080 --> 00:35:18,200
Speaker 5: spikes and the guy goes, oh, I'm so sorry, right right,

843
00:35:18,800 --> 00:35:21,319
Speaker 5: but yeah, that was the first one. And uh, I

844
00:35:21,360 --> 00:35:23,759
Speaker 5: mean it was as an old line. We just were

845
00:35:24,320 --> 00:35:26,320
Speaker 5: and and I give a lot of credits. So Monday,

846
00:35:26,400 --> 00:35:29,680
Speaker 5: you go in, you lift, we had everybody would leave

847
00:35:29,719 --> 00:35:31,919
Speaker 5: the facility and we would have our fat man football game.

848
00:35:32,520 --> 00:35:35,560
Speaker 5: We would have between the numbers tag football and it

849
00:35:35,600 --> 00:35:37,680
Speaker 5: would be the older guys. Again. In fifth year, I

850
00:35:37,719 --> 00:35:40,239
Speaker 5: was an older guy, so we play the younger guys

851
00:35:40,280 --> 00:35:43,960
Speaker 5: in a touch football game. Well, Max Montoya, the starting

852
00:35:44,000 --> 00:35:46,240
Speaker 5: right guard, was a quarterback and I was a receiver,

853
00:35:46,800 --> 00:35:48,600
Speaker 5: and you know, we'd get a young guy, say I

854
00:35:48,600 --> 00:35:50,719
Speaker 5: got Muniyas, I got Munyas. I look at Max and

855
00:35:50,800 --> 00:35:53,040
Speaker 5: we you know, we torched him and stuff. And so

856
00:35:53,440 --> 00:35:55,360
Speaker 5: Sam's office was right on the corner there, and I

857
00:35:55,400 --> 00:35:57,239
Speaker 5: think he would watch us, and maybe that's kind of

858
00:35:57,239 --> 00:35:59,239
Speaker 5: what led to you know, throw it to me. But

859
00:35:59,520 --> 00:36:02,799
Speaker 5: uh yeah, so that was and you'll appreciate. I gotta

860
00:36:02,840 --> 00:36:04,880
Speaker 5: share this story too. So we're playing at home against

861
00:36:04,880 --> 00:36:08,279
Speaker 5: Seattle and now I'm on the left tight end seven

862
00:36:08,320 --> 00:36:12,560
Speaker 5: D eight eligible. You know, Refree announces it, so I'm

863
00:36:12,600 --> 00:36:15,040
Speaker 5: supposed to hit the guy and I go to pieline boom. Well,

864
00:36:15,080 --> 00:36:17,879
Speaker 5: Boomer gets flushed even in goal line. So I kind

865
00:36:17,880 --> 00:36:20,719
Speaker 5: of cut across and the in line's right here and

866
00:36:20,760 --> 00:36:25,880
Speaker 5: the linebacker's right here, and I see Boomer, so I'm thinking, disreact.

867
00:36:25,960 --> 00:36:29,239
Speaker 3: I stopped. Boomer throws it in the door. I go up.

868
00:36:29,360 --> 00:36:33,560
Speaker 3: There's no I but this guy goes over my back. Yeah,

869
00:36:33,840 --> 00:36:36,200
Speaker 3: past interference. We get another play.

870
00:36:36,880 --> 00:36:38,279
Speaker 5: So I just it was just like I said, Now,

871
00:36:38,280 --> 00:36:40,359
Speaker 5: I've watched my gu I just watched my guy.

872
00:36:41,120 --> 00:36:42,640
Speaker 3: You know, I just watch my guys. What they do.

873
00:36:42,680 --> 00:36:44,440
Speaker 5: You know, you just stop and let them go over

874
00:36:44,440 --> 00:36:46,239
Speaker 5: your back because there's no more room to get running.

875
00:36:46,880 --> 00:36:48,680
Speaker 5: And then one other one weren't Houston, and I'm the

876
00:36:48,760 --> 00:36:51,600
Speaker 5: right this time. I'm the right tight end. Bruce Coslet's

877
00:36:51,680 --> 00:36:54,200
Speaker 5: up in the box and we call, you know, hit

878
00:36:54,280 --> 00:36:58,719
Speaker 5: and go to the pieline well and whistle goes dead.

879
00:36:58,760 --> 00:37:01,080
Speaker 5: So what I do is I hooked locked that defensive end,

880
00:37:01,160 --> 00:37:05,920
Speaker 5: drive them inside. I said, was not good. Next play,

881
00:37:05,960 --> 00:37:08,960
Speaker 5: get in the huddle. He calls the same play. I

882
00:37:09,040 --> 00:37:11,880
Speaker 5: hit the guy, go touchdown by getting the planet.

883
00:37:11,640 --> 00:37:12,120
Speaker 4: Said Bruce.

884
00:37:12,239 --> 00:37:14,879
Speaker 5: He says, I saw you hooked the guy. You ran,

885
00:37:15,000 --> 00:37:17,480
Speaker 5: you know you ran blocked him. I said, yeah, because

886
00:37:17,560 --> 00:37:20,640
Speaker 5: I saw that you didn't give it away. So yeah,

887
00:37:20,680 --> 00:37:24,480
Speaker 5: sot a couple against Houston, one against Seattle, and then

888
00:37:24,560 --> 00:37:26,120
Speaker 5: of course the big Clayland I.

889
00:37:26,040 --> 00:37:29,480
Speaker 3: Was it was all four were boomer, All four were boomer.

890
00:37:29,719 --> 00:37:31,600
Speaker 4: In the sync. I like that. I did look man

891
00:37:31,840 --> 00:37:34,160
Speaker 4: first of all, I love big man football. It was

892
00:37:34,360 --> 00:37:34,839
Speaker 4: that was a.

893
00:37:36,280 --> 00:37:38,400
Speaker 1: Most like when DB's excuse me, It's like when d

894
00:37:38,520 --> 00:37:39,560
Speaker 1: Lineman get interceptions.

895
00:37:39,680 --> 00:37:40,400
Speaker 4: Were so happy.

896
00:37:41,120 --> 00:37:43,080
Speaker 1: Everybody's happy, and everyone's trying to get them in the

897
00:37:43,160 --> 00:37:45,839
Speaker 1: end zone. Everybody's everyone's trying to get them an in zone.

898
00:37:46,160 --> 00:37:47,000
Speaker 1: Come on, let's go, keep it.

899
00:37:46,960 --> 00:37:47,480
Speaker 3: Going, keep going.

900
00:37:47,920 --> 00:37:51,160
Speaker 4: Everybody loves big Man with ball. It's hilarious. This is great, Okay.

901
00:37:51,800 --> 00:37:52,680
Speaker 4: I love the stories.

902
00:37:53,000 --> 00:37:54,000
Speaker 3: We will be right back.

903
00:37:55,920 --> 00:37:59,880
Speaker 1: Two thousand and thirteen, in New York, I won the

904
00:37:59,880 --> 00:38:03,520
Speaker 1: one Walter Payton Man of the Year, very precedious award

905
00:38:03,680 --> 00:38:06,479
Speaker 1: that the NFL has nineteen ninety one.

906
00:38:07,640 --> 00:38:08,480
Speaker 3: You won the award.

907
00:38:09,360 --> 00:38:10,279
Speaker 4: What does that mean to you?

908
00:38:11,040 --> 00:38:13,719
Speaker 5: So that to me is right up there with the

909
00:38:13,880 --> 00:38:16,480
Speaker 5: Hall of Fame. And I got the Athletes and Action

910
00:38:16,600 --> 00:38:19,720
Speaker 5: Bart Star Award, which is similar to Walter Payton, because

911
00:38:19,760 --> 00:38:22,759
Speaker 5: that's not all football. It's who you are as an

912
00:38:22,760 --> 00:38:25,600
Speaker 5: individual with your family in the community. And to me,

913
00:38:26,520 --> 00:38:29,799
Speaker 5: that has so much more impact than the thirteen years

914
00:38:29,840 --> 00:38:33,319
Speaker 5: I played in And I'm talking lifetime impact with people

915
00:38:33,400 --> 00:38:36,520
Speaker 5: that you're working with, and so you know that Walter

916
00:38:36,600 --> 00:38:37,600
Speaker 5: Payton NFL Man of the.

917
00:38:37,600 --> 00:38:39,160
Speaker 3: Year is very very special.

918
00:38:40,080 --> 00:38:43,160
Speaker 5: In fact, I got the I got the jersey frame

919
00:38:43,239 --> 00:38:45,560
Speaker 5: in my man cave with the you know the.

920
00:38:45,560 --> 00:38:48,359
Speaker 3: Little old patch. Yeah, the patch on it, and oh

921
00:38:48,520 --> 00:38:50,040
Speaker 3: you gott I ain't got the patch.

922
00:38:50,040 --> 00:38:51,560
Speaker 4: I gotta get you got so you got to get

923
00:38:51,560 --> 00:38:54,200
Speaker 4: the patch. I ain't got the I got to talk

924
00:38:54,239 --> 00:38:55,520
Speaker 4: to somebody. I gotta get the patch.

925
00:38:55,680 --> 00:38:59,120
Speaker 1: Talk to I think Tracy, Tracy, Tracy, I need my patch.

926
00:38:59,360 --> 00:39:01,840
Speaker 5: Anthony mentioned jersey with the Men of the Year patch.

927
00:39:02,000 --> 00:39:04,880
Speaker 5: They went back and got you what to what happened?

928
00:39:05,160 --> 00:39:09,120
Speaker 5: So in Minnesota Super Bowl the Eagles were they Yeah,

929
00:39:09,239 --> 00:39:12,880
Speaker 5: So Chris Carter noticed that the players on the field

930
00:39:12,920 --> 00:39:16,680
Speaker 5: had the He goes, hey, all those former winners man. Yeah, yeah,

931
00:39:16,960 --> 00:39:19,319
Speaker 5: and you didn't get the jersey. I thought they put

932
00:39:19,320 --> 00:39:20,359
Speaker 5: a jersey in all her rooms.

933
00:39:20,480 --> 00:39:23,080
Speaker 1: So I have a jersey when we do appearances and

934
00:39:23,120 --> 00:39:25,200
Speaker 1: things like that. But I don't have like my own

935
00:39:25,280 --> 00:39:26,680
Speaker 1: personal like I need.

936
00:39:26,920 --> 00:39:29,120
Speaker 5: I got to get the patch like your game jersey

937
00:39:29,160 --> 00:39:31,799
Speaker 5: with the but they have it sold on so I

938
00:39:31,840 --> 00:39:34,919
Speaker 5: gotta get that. Yeah, but yeah, that that award I mean,

939
00:39:35,040 --> 00:39:37,840
Speaker 5: and had a chance, of course to be around Walter.

940
00:39:38,160 --> 00:39:39,200
Speaker 3: I mean, what a guy.

941
00:39:39,280 --> 00:39:41,759
Speaker 5: I mean, we're in a round table in DC one year.

942
00:39:41,800 --> 00:39:44,160
Speaker 5: My daughter's six years old. And what I'd do when

943
00:39:44,160 --> 00:39:46,720
Speaker 5: they were young, I'd take them to an event, just myself,

944
00:39:46,840 --> 00:39:49,279
Speaker 5: my son, myself, my daughter, and we'd go. And I

945
00:39:49,280 --> 00:39:51,400
Speaker 5: took her to DC and we're doing these round tables

946
00:39:51,440 --> 00:39:53,560
Speaker 5: and one of them, Walter and I sat out. So

947
00:39:53,640 --> 00:39:55,960
Speaker 5: we were in the out there sitting down and Michelle

948
00:39:55,960 --> 00:39:59,080
Speaker 5: was sitting between Walter and I. We left, and she

949
00:39:59,160 --> 00:40:01,680
Speaker 5: felt like a princess after spending time with Walter Man.

950
00:40:01,719 --> 00:40:03,919
Speaker 5: She would ask how's Walter Payton doing when.

951
00:40:03,840 --> 00:40:04,600
Speaker 3: She was a little girl?

952
00:40:05,040 --> 00:40:07,440
Speaker 5: But you know, to carry his name and to be

953
00:40:07,920 --> 00:40:10,120
Speaker 5: so that is a very right up there at the

954
00:40:10,120 --> 00:40:12,799
Speaker 5: top with anything I've been awarded with.

955
00:40:13,360 --> 00:40:15,840
Speaker 2: All right, do you tell us more about your anthey

956
00:40:15,880 --> 00:40:18,839
Speaker 2: Munhos Foundation. You have been able to affect more than

957
00:40:18,840 --> 00:40:22,840
Speaker 2: fifty seven thousand youth throughout the Cincinnati.

958
00:40:22,239 --> 00:40:23,440
Speaker 4: And Ohio area.

959
00:40:23,760 --> 00:40:27,280
Speaker 2: You've given over two million dollars away in scholarship funds.

960
00:40:27,600 --> 00:40:28,799
Speaker 3: We started in two thousand and two.

961
00:40:28,840 --> 00:40:31,759
Speaker 5: Of course, I retired, you know, ten years prior to that,

962
00:40:32,800 --> 00:40:35,680
Speaker 5: and I understand, when you're playing, you have leverage, you

963
00:40:35,680 --> 00:40:37,399
Speaker 5: have relevance to start, and a lot of young guys

964
00:40:37,400 --> 00:40:42,360
Speaker 5: start foundations. Husband bother and an NFL football player, I

965
00:40:42,400 --> 00:40:44,400
Speaker 5: didn't have time to be involved in a foundation, I mean,

966
00:40:44,800 --> 00:40:46,359
Speaker 5: so I helped a lot of other groups what they

967
00:40:46,360 --> 00:40:48,319
Speaker 5: were doing. Because when I do something, I want to

968
00:40:48,320 --> 00:40:50,960
Speaker 5: be totally engaged. I want to be hands on impact.

969
00:40:51,000 --> 00:40:53,279
Speaker 5: So in two thousand and two, after putting a game

970
00:40:53,320 --> 00:40:56,040
Speaker 5: plan together and you know, talking to corporate people, our

971
00:40:56,120 --> 00:40:58,600
Speaker 5: kids were like sophomores in college, I said, now's the

972
00:40:58,640 --> 00:41:01,160
Speaker 5: time to start it. So I started the Anti Munius

973
00:41:01,160 --> 00:41:05,400
Speaker 5: Foundation to engage the Tristate area to impact youth mentally, physically,

974
00:41:05,440 --> 00:41:08,560
Speaker 5: and spiritually. So we have eight programs, the scholarship being

975
00:41:08,560 --> 00:41:11,120
Speaker 5: one of the programs we have. We work with young

976
00:41:11,120 --> 00:41:14,520
Speaker 5: people from kindergarten through seniors in high school, everything from

977
00:41:14,560 --> 00:41:17,359
Speaker 5: mentoring program from k through five and then we don't

978
00:41:17,360 --> 00:41:19,600
Speaker 5: want to lose them after fifth grade, so we have

979
00:41:19,640 --> 00:41:22,520
Speaker 5: another mentoring program for middle school and then.

980
00:41:22,440 --> 00:41:23,680
Speaker 3: So that's two of the programs.

981
00:41:23,680 --> 00:41:27,080
Speaker 5: We have overnight character camps we take away in the spring,

982
00:41:27,320 --> 00:41:30,279
Speaker 5: pretty multicultural We take them about one hundred and fifty

983
00:41:30,280 --> 00:41:32,799
Speaker 5: young men to three three nights to a camp and

984
00:41:32,840 --> 00:41:33,680
Speaker 5: they just show up.

985
00:41:33,920 --> 00:41:35,480
Speaker 3: We have we teach them a little football, man.

986
00:41:35,520 --> 00:41:37,360
Speaker 5: We can't take them to camp, but a lot of

987
00:41:37,400 --> 00:41:40,520
Speaker 5: it is character team building. And then we have a

988
00:41:40,600 --> 00:41:43,160
Speaker 5: chapel in the character of talk every day and we

989
00:41:43,200 --> 00:41:46,399
Speaker 5: have a coaching staff that leads them through discussion. So

990
00:41:46,440 --> 00:41:48,600
Speaker 5: that's we do that one in the spring, and then

991
00:41:48,680 --> 00:41:50,400
Speaker 5: the fall we do one that's one hundred percent of

992
00:41:50,400 --> 00:41:53,440
Speaker 5: Hispanic kids. Take them away for three days and to

993
00:41:53,560 --> 00:41:55,759
Speaker 5: feed them, give them swag. I mean, like I said

994
00:41:55,800 --> 00:41:57,400
Speaker 5: that all they do is bring their change of clothes

995
00:41:57,440 --> 00:41:58,479
Speaker 5: and whatever they need to bring.

996
00:41:59,239 --> 00:42:00,399
Speaker 3: So that's two more.

997
00:42:00,400 --> 00:42:03,080
Speaker 5: Then in June, I have a dinner in golf and

998
00:42:03,120 --> 00:42:06,400
Speaker 5: then two days right about that time, we have it's

999
00:42:06,480 --> 00:42:08,719
Speaker 5: the same template as the overnight camps, but it's a

1000
00:42:08,800 --> 00:42:11,120
Speaker 5: day camp at the Bengals Stadium. We have about four

1001
00:42:11,200 --> 00:42:14,240
Speaker 5: hundred young people. Twenty percent of those four hundred young ladies,

1002
00:42:14,560 --> 00:42:16,799
Speaker 5: same thing. We teach them a little football, but it's

1003
00:42:16,880 --> 00:42:20,279
Speaker 5: character team building. And I have a coach that coached

1004
00:42:20,320 --> 00:42:23,279
Speaker 5: high school football forever, was an educator and he could

1005
00:42:23,320 --> 00:42:26,160
Speaker 5: probably write a book on and you could use it

1006
00:42:26,200 --> 00:42:29,960
Speaker 5: for young people corporations on team building activities, and we

1007
00:42:30,040 --> 00:42:32,800
Speaker 5: do that. We utilize that. So we do those three camps.

1008
00:42:33,520 --> 00:42:36,120
Speaker 5: In October, we have what we call our Youth Leadership Seminar.

1009
00:42:36,400 --> 00:42:38,320
Speaker 5: We bring in anywhere from eighty five to one hundred

1010
00:42:38,360 --> 00:42:42,120
Speaker 5: high schools full day. We have motivational leadership speakers, we

1011
00:42:42,200 --> 00:42:45,000
Speaker 5: have breakout sessions. We have key stakeholders in the community

1012
00:42:45,120 --> 00:42:48,319
Speaker 5: that lead these young this high school through conversation of

1013
00:42:48,400 --> 00:42:50,839
Speaker 5: things they might not want to discuss, you know, other

1014
00:42:51,239 --> 00:42:54,399
Speaker 5: and we have we've been you know, we'll do entrepreneurs young,

1015
00:42:54,760 --> 00:42:56,799
Speaker 5: we do mental health, which has been a big hit

1016
00:42:56,840 --> 00:42:59,320
Speaker 5: for these young people. So we bring in speakers and

1017
00:42:59,320 --> 00:43:01,160
Speaker 5: at the end of the day, after this full day event,

1018
00:43:01,680 --> 00:43:04,680
Speaker 5: we do a community service challenge and these young people

1019
00:43:04,680 --> 00:43:06,480
Speaker 5: will initiate and put them together. And we've had some

1020
00:43:06,520 --> 00:43:09,920
Speaker 5: great community service projects. They put together projects and then

1021
00:43:09,960 --> 00:43:12,480
Speaker 5: we kind of track them and I give money to

1022
00:43:12,520 --> 00:43:15,760
Speaker 5: the top two. You know, maybe like redoing a school,

1023
00:43:15,800 --> 00:43:18,439
Speaker 5: you know, a playground, or doing this that we had

1024
00:43:18,440 --> 00:43:21,960
Speaker 5: an inner city school, very little resources. They initiated and

1025
00:43:22,000 --> 00:43:25,240
Speaker 5: it's still going. Not only came up with an ideal,

1026
00:43:25,280 --> 00:43:27,960
Speaker 5: but built brick and Mortar a school in Sierra Leone,

1027
00:43:28,680 --> 00:43:31,439
Speaker 5: really and then the next year this was an inner

1028
00:43:31,480 --> 00:43:35,080
Speaker 5: city school. They did a fundraiser with the suburban school.

1029
00:43:35,120 --> 00:43:38,279
Speaker 5: So you're talking ninety nine percent black, ninety nine percent white.

1030
00:43:38,320 --> 00:43:38,759
Speaker 3: They had a walk.

1031
00:43:38,800 --> 00:43:41,960
Speaker 5: They raised about thirty thousand dollars. It costs a dollar

1032
00:43:42,000 --> 00:43:44,640
Speaker 5: a year to put a kid through school, so they

1033
00:43:44,680 --> 00:43:47,040
Speaker 5: sent us pictures of these kids that had ach in

1034
00:43:47,160 --> 00:43:49,400
Speaker 5: high school, these little kids in Sierra Leone because that

1035
00:43:49,440 --> 00:43:51,200
Speaker 5: was the school. But we have things like that, So

1036
00:43:51,239 --> 00:43:54,160
Speaker 5: that's our leadership seminar. We have two types of scholarships.

1037
00:43:54,160 --> 00:43:58,200
Speaker 5: Ones in the spring, we do nine male nine female finalists.

1038
00:43:58,560 --> 00:44:03,319
Speaker 5: It's called our straight A Academics, Athletics, Attitude Achievement, but

1039
00:44:03,360 --> 00:44:06,560
Speaker 5: a big criteria is overcoming adversity and that's a one

1040
00:44:06,600 --> 00:44:09,160
Speaker 5: time two to five thousand dollars scholarship. We have an

1041
00:44:09,239 --> 00:44:12,680
Speaker 5: amazing steakhouse in Cincinnati. The guy donates it, They bring

1042
00:44:12,719 --> 00:44:16,000
Speaker 5: their most influential teacher and then so we award that

1043
00:44:16,320 --> 00:44:19,600
Speaker 5: the mail winner gets a custom made ring foundation ring

1044
00:44:19,920 --> 00:44:23,200
Speaker 5: mcgal gets a nice pendant and then so they get

1045
00:44:23,200 --> 00:44:25,040
Speaker 5: to come up to the podium with their teacher.

1046
00:44:25,080 --> 00:44:25,920
Speaker 3: We take pictures.

1047
00:44:26,320 --> 00:44:28,319
Speaker 5: That's our straight a and then in the summer when

1048
00:44:28,360 --> 00:44:30,960
Speaker 5: we do our event, we have our scholarship fund, so

1049
00:44:31,000 --> 00:44:34,440
Speaker 5: we award twenty thousand dollars scholarships to individuals. We just

1050
00:44:34,480 --> 00:44:38,359
Speaker 5: gave out five last month in June, and two days

1051
00:44:38,360 --> 00:44:41,680
Speaker 5: after that, one of my board members, who two board

1052
00:44:41,680 --> 00:44:44,520
Speaker 5: members and myself, we interview these young people that we

1053
00:44:44,600 --> 00:44:46,759
Speaker 5: do interview and we had fifteen finalists and we had

1054
00:44:47,040 --> 00:44:50,759
Speaker 5: fun for five but after each interview, my buddy said, man,

1055
00:44:50,760 --> 00:44:53,239
Speaker 5: I wish we had fifteen scholarships because everyone of them

1056
00:44:53,280 --> 00:44:56,880
Speaker 5: was deserving. So two days afterwards, this board member calls

1057
00:44:56,920 --> 00:44:59,400
Speaker 5: and says that, you know, I'm so thankful to be

1058
00:44:59,440 --> 00:45:01,600
Speaker 5: on this committe. We interview these young people and you

1059
00:45:01,640 --> 00:45:03,839
Speaker 5: know how passionate I am about we have a chance

1060
00:45:03,840 --> 00:45:07,600
Speaker 5: to change LiveShare. When we're talking first generation kids, they graduate,

1061
00:45:07,640 --> 00:45:10,600
Speaker 5: they come back and help. He says, you know, they

1062
00:45:10,640 --> 00:45:13,280
Speaker 5: run him and his wife and the family foundation. He says,

1063
00:45:13,800 --> 00:45:16,319
Speaker 5: we just had a meeting board meeting, and we're gonna grant.

1064
00:45:16,360 --> 00:45:19,279
Speaker 5: We're gonna write your foundation of grant list plan. We

1065
00:45:19,320 --> 00:45:22,480
Speaker 5: have ten scholarships for next year already stroke to check

1066
00:45:22,520 --> 00:45:23,359
Speaker 5: for two hundred grand.

1067
00:45:23,880 --> 00:45:25,960
Speaker 3: But right now a year in advance. We already have

1068
00:45:26,000 --> 00:45:29,319
Speaker 3: ten scholarships that we're gonna give next year. So that's

1069
00:45:29,880 --> 00:45:30,480
Speaker 3: the foundation.

1070
00:45:30,760 --> 00:45:33,239
Speaker 5: Like you said, we deal with about twenty five to

1071
00:45:33,280 --> 00:45:35,640
Speaker 5: three hundred young people. And I love it because I'm

1072
00:45:35,640 --> 00:45:36,680
Speaker 5: there at the camps and.

1073
00:45:37,000 --> 00:45:39,480
Speaker 4: We can tell your fault, the way you're able to.

1074
00:45:39,239 --> 00:45:42,600
Speaker 2: Provide so much information, the passion in which you speak about, like,

1075
00:45:42,719 --> 00:45:45,640
Speaker 2: we can tell you care. And so this goes a

1076
00:45:45,640 --> 00:45:47,520
Speaker 2: lot back to what you're saying when you're coaching your

1077
00:45:47,560 --> 00:45:49,839
Speaker 2: old son. When you're coaching and you're doing all these things,

1078
00:45:49,920 --> 00:45:52,120
Speaker 2: I appreciate you for being who you are. I can

1079
00:45:52,160 --> 00:45:54,839
Speaker 2: tell everything you do it matters.

1080
00:45:54,520 --> 00:45:57,359
Speaker 5: To you, but does And you know, it's funny. I went,

1081
00:45:57,560 --> 00:45:58,200
Speaker 5: I was meeting with.

1082
00:46:00,239 --> 00:46:01,120
Speaker 3: My CEO tour.

1083
00:46:01,160 --> 00:46:03,200
Speaker 5: I go, and I'm the guy that I share my

1084
00:46:03,200 --> 00:46:05,799
Speaker 5: passion and mission and hopefully they write checks. I write

1085
00:46:05,840 --> 00:46:07,759
Speaker 5: with a ride with the guy for four hours in

1086
00:46:07,800 --> 00:46:10,000
Speaker 5: a golf cart. Don't ask a penny, and he here,

1087
00:46:10,120 --> 00:46:12,439
Speaker 5: you need some money. So I was talking to CEO

1088
00:46:12,440 --> 00:46:14,879
Speaker 5: in Cincinnati in about twenty minutes and it he goes, man,

1089
00:46:15,440 --> 00:46:17,239
Speaker 5: you know what's going on with your foun day? I said,

1090
00:46:17,440 --> 00:46:20,960
Speaker 5: you know what I said, everything's public. You can check

1091
00:46:20,960 --> 00:46:23,000
Speaker 5: our audits. The last six years, we've given ninety five

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00:46:23,040 --> 00:46:25,279
Speaker 5: cents to a dollar on the kids. And he goes,

1093
00:46:25,360 --> 00:46:27,480
Speaker 5: I'm on the board of this was a few years agause,

1094
00:46:27,480 --> 00:46:29,319
Speaker 5: I'm on the board of one of the players. He goes,

1095
00:46:29,800 --> 00:46:31,799
Speaker 5: they don't know what's going on with their names on

1096
00:46:31,920 --> 00:46:33,840
Speaker 5: I said, well, I said, well, I that's why I

1097
00:46:33,840 --> 00:46:36,360
Speaker 5: waited ten years after, because I wanted to be engaged.

1098
00:46:36,400 --> 00:46:39,600
Speaker 5: I run our board meetings. You know, I don't know

1099
00:46:39,680 --> 00:46:41,440
Speaker 5: everything about it, but I know our numbers. I know

1100
00:46:41,440 --> 00:46:43,600
Speaker 5: where it's all going, you know. I make decisions on

1101
00:46:43,680 --> 00:46:46,759
Speaker 5: staff payment. We have four staff. We're leaning staff for

1102
00:46:46,840 --> 00:46:48,759
Speaker 5: what we do, but they get it done. And I

1103
00:46:48,800 --> 00:46:52,200
Speaker 5: have seventeen unbelievable board members. I mean I could call

1104
00:46:52,239 --> 00:46:54,960
Speaker 5: him right now for some advice and if they didn't

1105
00:46:54,960 --> 00:46:57,080
Speaker 5: pick up the phone, they'd call right back. And then

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00:46:57,640 --> 00:46:59,719
Speaker 5: we one thing we started which is pretty cool twenty

1107
00:47:00,080 --> 00:47:03,960
Speaker 5: four years ago. We have an internship program with local

1108
00:47:04,000 --> 00:47:06,560
Speaker 5: college students. We have four to eight a year that

1109
00:47:06,640 --> 00:47:08,960
Speaker 5: come in and it's non paid. It's part of what

1110
00:47:09,000 --> 00:47:11,560
Speaker 5: they do at school and they learn everything about the

1111
00:47:11,600 --> 00:47:14,000
Speaker 5: non for profits. They're not just running off copies, man,

1112
00:47:14,040 --> 00:47:17,600
Speaker 5: They're they're learning and working and so and then we

1113
00:47:17,640 --> 00:47:19,880
Speaker 5: have a database of about one hundred and fifty volunteers.

1114
00:47:19,960 --> 00:47:22,840
Speaker 5: So it's truly it has my name on it, but

1115
00:47:22,880 --> 00:47:24,600
Speaker 5: it's a team effort. I mean, it's that's where it

1116
00:47:24,719 --> 00:47:28,200
Speaker 5: ends with my name. But so yeah, we're we're rolling.

1117
00:47:28,280 --> 00:47:30,239
Speaker 5: And of course at my age, you know you're thinking, Okay,

1118
00:47:30,239 --> 00:47:31,880
Speaker 5: how much longer do you do this? And every year

1119
00:47:31,920 --> 00:47:34,359
Speaker 5: my wife and I go, Man, it keeps energizing us,

1120
00:47:34,440 --> 00:47:35,480
Speaker 5: and here you keep going.

1121
00:47:35,600 --> 00:47:40,800
Speaker 1: So you've given us some gyms. Well, just how humble

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00:47:40,840 --> 00:47:44,279
Speaker 1: you are. And clearly you are not a self made person. No,

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00:47:44,840 --> 00:47:47,840
Speaker 1: So if I gave you four people to put on

1124
00:47:47,880 --> 00:47:51,319
Speaker 1: your amount rushmore of who made you the man you

1125
00:47:51,360 --> 00:47:53,040
Speaker 1: are today, who would those four people be?

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00:47:54,160 --> 00:47:57,480
Speaker 5: Right in the middle would be Estra Munos, my mom,

1127
00:47:57,520 --> 00:48:00,000
Speaker 5: who raised five by ourself, working two three jobs.

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00:48:00,000 --> 00:48:02,640
Speaker 3: I never knew my dad. He was in prison, and.

1129
00:48:02,600 --> 00:48:05,360
Speaker 5: She just he taught us work ethic, not by shitting

1130
00:48:05,440 --> 00:48:07,920
Speaker 5: us down, but just by watching her walk over the

1131
00:48:07,960 --> 00:48:10,480
Speaker 5: tracks to work at seven in the morning, coming home

1132
00:48:10,480 --> 00:48:13,919
Speaker 5: at four, picking dinner, washing clothes and everything. She taught

1133
00:48:13,960 --> 00:48:18,280
Speaker 5: us and then literally teaching us what responsibility is. Because

1134
00:48:18,320 --> 00:48:20,319
Speaker 5: if I wanted to play baseball in the summer. We

1135
00:48:20,360 --> 00:48:22,319
Speaker 5: had to do our chores. And it wasn't just dust.

1136
00:48:22,560 --> 00:48:25,680
Speaker 5: We had to wash clothes, wash dishes, iron clothes, clean

1137
00:48:25,719 --> 00:48:28,319
Speaker 5: the house. So she would be right there. I'd have

1138
00:48:28,360 --> 00:48:31,160
Speaker 5: to put my wife right there, Dedi, like I said,

1139
00:48:31,200 --> 00:48:33,440
Speaker 5: I got married when I was nineteen, so she's been

1140
00:48:33,480 --> 00:48:35,400
Speaker 5: on the journey for a lot of years. And I

1141
00:48:35,440 --> 00:48:39,200
Speaker 5: mean just a great supporter, you know, a woman of

1142
00:48:39,239 --> 00:48:44,080
Speaker 5: great insight and great faith. And so I put Dedi there.

1143
00:48:44,920 --> 00:48:48,040
Speaker 5: I'd have to put Jesus right there. You know, he'd

1144
00:48:48,040 --> 00:48:51,359
Speaker 5: be right there. I think it'd be between my mom

1145
00:48:51,400 --> 00:48:52,919
Speaker 5: and him, but I'd still put my mom.

1146
00:48:53,120 --> 00:48:54,120
Speaker 3: He'd be right next to her.

1147
00:48:54,520 --> 00:48:56,040
Speaker 4: You can put them all the time.

1148
00:48:56,160 --> 00:49:01,120
Speaker 1: He's got his own, Okay, that's so that's he's his own.

1149
00:49:00,600 --> 00:49:02,239
Speaker 4: He got his own.

1150
00:49:02,360 --> 00:49:05,320
Speaker 3: Yeah. The fourth would be a team of support.

1151
00:49:05,520 --> 00:49:08,239
Speaker 1: You're such a team player you can't even pick right.

1152
00:49:09,480 --> 00:49:11,400
Speaker 1: Is hard, And I did that specifically. It's like, no,

1153
00:49:11,600 --> 00:49:12,920
Speaker 1: I need you to pick four people.

1154
00:49:13,800 --> 00:49:14,240
Speaker 4: You can't.

1155
00:49:14,640 --> 00:49:18,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, but that just goes into character, like no, I've

1156
00:49:19,200 --> 00:49:20,680
Speaker 1: a lot of people have poured into you.

1157
00:49:21,160 --> 00:49:23,640
Speaker 3: It's uh, it's been a great journey, just uh.

1158
00:49:24,360 --> 00:49:26,759
Speaker 5: I mean, you know when DDE and I pray in

1159
00:49:26,800 --> 00:49:29,759
Speaker 5: the morning, we pray about for our family family, then

1160
00:49:29,760 --> 00:49:31,799
Speaker 5: we pray about our college friends. We pray about our

1161
00:49:31,840 --> 00:49:35,040
Speaker 5: friends in Cincinnati. And it's just like I mean, and

1162
00:49:35,080 --> 00:49:38,040
Speaker 5: I sit there at times just overwhelmed by just you know,

1163
00:49:38,040 --> 00:49:41,680
Speaker 5: because you know, men don't have you know, it's hard.

1164
00:49:41,840 --> 00:49:44,680
Speaker 5: Ladies have close friends, but you talk to men, it's like,

1165
00:49:44,719 --> 00:49:47,319
Speaker 5: give me your top three four best friends, and they're like,

1166
00:49:47,480 --> 00:49:48,920
Speaker 5: I think most guys struggle with that.

1167
00:49:49,719 --> 00:49:49,960
Speaker 3: I can.

1168
00:49:50,160 --> 00:49:52,560
Speaker 5: I can give you like close to ten, like guys

1169
00:49:52,600 --> 00:49:55,919
Speaker 5: that are just tight, you know, like minded. I can

1170
00:49:56,000 --> 00:49:58,879
Speaker 5: call those four guys in California and at least four

1171
00:49:59,239 --> 00:50:00,759
Speaker 5: minimums since that I have that.

1172
00:50:01,160 --> 00:50:02,680
Speaker 3: So I'm blessed man, I tell you what.

1173
00:50:02,800 --> 00:50:04,719
Speaker 5: That's why I can't come up with just you know,

1174
00:50:04,719 --> 00:50:07,600
Speaker 5: because there's so many people in my life that have

1175
00:50:07,680 --> 00:50:08,680
Speaker 5: been just impactful.

1176
00:50:08,760 --> 00:50:11,399
Speaker 2: Half of that, though, Anthony, is because you give that.

1177
00:50:12,440 --> 00:50:14,759
Speaker 2: And so when you give that emotion, you give that

1178
00:50:14,800 --> 00:50:17,919
Speaker 2: you're open. And when you're open like that, you're usually

1179
00:50:17,960 --> 00:50:19,399
Speaker 2: able to receive more as well.

1180
00:50:19,480 --> 00:50:20,160
Speaker 4: And so when you.

1181
00:50:20,040 --> 00:50:21,759
Speaker 2: Put it out there and to the earth and to

1182
00:50:21,840 --> 00:50:24,080
Speaker 2: the world and to the universe, that's when you get it.

1183
00:50:24,360 --> 00:50:24,560
Speaker 3: You know.

1184
00:50:24,600 --> 00:50:27,800
Speaker 2: We always talk about You know what, when you want something,

1185
00:50:28,160 --> 00:50:30,160
Speaker 2: you need to start praying for others to get it

1186
00:50:30,200 --> 00:50:32,520
Speaker 2: as well. Yeah, that's when you receive it, you know

1187
00:50:32,560 --> 00:50:33,759
Speaker 2: what I mean. So you got to put it out

1188
00:50:33,760 --> 00:50:36,319
Speaker 2: there to receive it all tomately. And we can tell

1189
00:50:36,320 --> 00:50:38,799
Speaker 2: by your passion, your words how much of a team

1190
00:50:38,840 --> 00:50:42,319
Speaker 2: guy you are and how I get it listening to

1191
00:50:42,400 --> 00:50:45,319
Speaker 2: you and the way you describe things about who you

1192
00:50:45,400 --> 00:50:47,960
Speaker 2: truly genuinely are, and I hope the rest of us

1193
00:50:48,280 --> 00:50:49,920
Speaker 2: can pick they're gonna be able to pick up on

1194
00:50:49,960 --> 00:50:50,480
Speaker 2: that as well.

1195
00:50:50,640 --> 00:50:51,920
Speaker 4: It's just interesting.

1196
00:50:51,520 --> 00:50:55,560
Speaker 2: Because you know, for a lot of years when Cincinnati

1197
00:50:55,760 --> 00:50:59,680
Speaker 2: wasn't on top of everything, the one player that always

1198
00:50:59,680 --> 00:51:02,640
Speaker 2: stood and they talked about was Anthony Munyo. And now

1199
00:51:02,680 --> 00:51:04,440
Speaker 2: that I've got to sit down and meet you and

1200
00:51:04,520 --> 00:51:07,520
Speaker 2: humbly and just spend some time with you, the last

1201
00:51:07,520 --> 00:51:09,960
Speaker 2: person that Anthony Munyos talks about is Anthony Munyo.

1202
00:51:10,520 --> 00:51:11,400
Speaker 4: And so it's just really.

1203
00:51:11,320 --> 00:51:13,319
Speaker 2: Cool kind of putting all that together, being this young

1204
00:51:13,360 --> 00:51:16,600
Speaker 2: man that watched they learned all these great things about you,

1205
00:51:16,880 --> 00:51:18,960
Speaker 2: then getting to meet you and then it's like, you know,

1206
00:51:19,040 --> 00:51:20,920
Speaker 2: actually he wants to talk about everybody.

1207
00:51:20,520 --> 00:51:22,879
Speaker 4: Else in his life. I like that. Yeah, I hate him.

1208
00:51:23,040 --> 00:51:25,319
Speaker 5: Well, I appreciate that. And my wife and I always talk

1209
00:51:25,360 --> 00:51:28,440
Speaker 5: about us. You know what, we're both from Montaro, California,

1210
00:51:28,440 --> 00:51:30,399
Speaker 5: and I mean, we don't forget where we came from.

1211
00:51:30,800 --> 00:51:33,040
Speaker 5: We were doing an event the other last year and

1212
00:51:33,080 --> 00:51:37,360
Speaker 5: it was there's a place where they take addicts and

1213
00:51:37,400 --> 00:51:39,560
Speaker 5: bring them in and they house them and they feed

1214
00:51:39,600 --> 00:51:43,080
Speaker 5: them and they train them, get them jobs. And the

1215
00:51:43,120 --> 00:51:46,920
Speaker 5: guy that's directing, he's a recovered addict and his wife

1216
00:51:47,000 --> 00:51:47,799
Speaker 5: is the same thing.

1217
00:51:47,840 --> 00:51:48,880
Speaker 3: And she's talked to my wife.

1218
00:51:48,920 --> 00:51:51,000
Speaker 5: She's, I know you guys are here to talk to us,

1219
00:51:51,320 --> 00:51:53,600
Speaker 5: but I'm sure you guys don't understand what a lot

1220
00:51:53,600 --> 00:51:57,400
Speaker 5: of us are going And I'm like, he's know, you know,

1221
00:51:57,480 --> 00:52:00,480
Speaker 5: we both come from dysfunctional My brother oded in my

1222
00:52:00,600 --> 00:52:02,319
Speaker 5: arms when he was a senior in high school. Thank

1223
00:52:02,360 --> 00:52:06,320
Speaker 5: god he survived. I got three cousins doing life in prison.

1224
00:52:06,400 --> 00:52:09,799
Speaker 5: I communicate with them and I said, no, we we

1225
00:52:09,920 --> 00:52:11,359
Speaker 5: know what you all are going through. You know, we've

1226
00:52:11,400 --> 00:52:13,879
Speaker 5: had addiction, and you know I paid for a couple

1227
00:52:13,880 --> 00:52:16,640
Speaker 5: of funerals of my young cousins that were shot to

1228
00:52:16,680 --> 00:52:17,720
Speaker 5: death drive by shooting.

1229
00:52:17,800 --> 00:52:18,880
Speaker 3: So no, we get it.

1230
00:52:18,960 --> 00:52:21,040
Speaker 5: That's why we're doing what we're doing because we want

1231
00:52:21,080 --> 00:52:23,719
Speaker 5: to be a part of the solution. But yeah, Dede

1232
00:52:23,760 --> 00:52:27,239
Speaker 5: and I, you know, we h he's very smart, but

1233
00:52:27,280 --> 00:52:29,760
Speaker 5: we have that you know, background that we'll never forget,

1234
00:52:30,320 --> 00:52:33,160
Speaker 5: uh and very thankful that you know where we came from.

1235
00:52:33,200 --> 00:52:36,040
Speaker 5: You know, we talked about my college adversity. I never

1236
00:52:36,200 --> 00:52:38,680
Speaker 5: trade that in for what I learned. I mean it

1237
00:52:38,800 --> 00:52:41,000
Speaker 5: was tough at the time. I mean to be watching

1238
00:52:41,000 --> 00:52:43,680
Speaker 5: my guys every year on the sideline, you know. I

1239
00:52:44,160 --> 00:52:45,759
Speaker 5: you know, that's one thing I told my son. He

1240
00:52:45,800 --> 00:52:47,360
Speaker 5: was a four year starter, but he sat out his

1241
00:52:47,440 --> 00:52:50,320
Speaker 5: second year. And the first thing I told him, I said,

1242
00:52:50,480 --> 00:52:55,800
Speaker 5: don't isolate yourself. Stay engaged with your team. They're preparing

1243
00:52:55,840 --> 00:52:58,520
Speaker 5: the coaches, so it's going to be a natural separation,

1244
00:52:58,920 --> 00:53:01,000
Speaker 5: you know, someone that's hurt with I said, but you

1245
00:53:01,040 --> 00:53:04,000
Speaker 5: got to make it your initiative to be engaged. One

1246
00:53:04,040 --> 00:53:05,920
Speaker 5: of the things I did for three years I became

1247
00:53:06,000 --> 00:53:09,719
Speaker 5: the official spatter. I'd carry my tape. But you know

1248
00:53:09,760 --> 00:53:12,120
Speaker 5: that sc you had to spray paint your spat black.

1249
00:53:12,480 --> 00:53:14,440
Speaker 5: So if Charles White wanted a little extra tape, I'd

1250
00:53:14,440 --> 00:53:16,839
Speaker 5: have to have a spray can. If my lineman wanted

1251
00:53:16,840 --> 00:53:18,319
Speaker 5: a spat I would do it for him, but I

1252
00:53:18,320 --> 00:53:20,080
Speaker 5: had to spray it black because no white tape on

1253
00:53:20,120 --> 00:53:22,720
Speaker 5: your shoes. So that's how I kind of stayed engaged,

1254
00:53:22,719 --> 00:53:24,480
Speaker 5: you know, with my guys and hung out with them.

1255
00:53:24,880 --> 00:53:26,520
Speaker 5: But you know, because it is it's.

1256
00:53:26,480 --> 00:53:29,880
Speaker 1: Your niche role exactly right, be a team player.

1257
00:53:29,960 --> 00:53:31,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, I got.

1258
00:53:31,640 --> 00:53:36,200
Speaker 1: Nothing else for Anthony human. You've been amazing, awesome. Thank

1259
00:53:36,239 --> 00:53:39,359
Speaker 1: you for just the wisdom and just everything you've said.

1260
00:53:39,400 --> 00:53:41,640
Speaker 1: I took it all in and I really do appreciate it.

1261
00:53:41,640 --> 00:53:44,640
Speaker 1: And then as Room said, you you really are passionate

1262
00:53:44,680 --> 00:53:47,320
Speaker 1: and you get out what you receive.

1263
00:53:47,440 --> 00:53:48,400
Speaker 3: I appreciate it.

1264
00:53:48,480 --> 00:53:51,239
Speaker 1: And it is an organic feeling. And yeah, I'm I'm

1265
00:53:51,280 --> 00:53:53,240
Speaker 1: taking that with me today, no doubt.

1266
00:53:53,239 --> 00:53:54,080
Speaker 4: Man, you are a light.

1267
00:53:54,360 --> 00:53:57,160
Speaker 2: You got to keep shining, Anthony Munjos, because you shine

1268
00:53:57,200 --> 00:53:59,520
Speaker 2: so bright you allow others to be seen. And so

1269
00:54:00,040 --> 00:54:03,000
Speaker 2: hat you man for stopping by taking time. And I'm

1270
00:54:03,000 --> 00:54:04,640
Speaker 2: gonna get us out of here. For all of our

1271
00:54:04,719 --> 00:54:10,160
Speaker 2: viewers and listeners out there, make sure you give us like, share, subscribe,

1272
00:54:10,560 --> 00:54:12,560
Speaker 2: believe a couple of comments. You can check us out

1273
00:54:12,640 --> 00:54:15,560
Speaker 2: on the NFL Pages YouTube channel. Whether you pick up

1274
00:54:15,280 --> 00:54:19,840
Speaker 2: your podcasts at Apple Podcasts iHeartRadio app. Make sure you

1275
00:54:19,880 --> 00:54:21,360
Speaker 2: continue to tell a friend to tell a friend to

1276
00:54:21,360 --> 00:54:24,000
Speaker 2: do what Peanut tell a friend us out man, yes, man,

1277
00:54:24,000 --> 00:54:24,759
Speaker 2: get us out of here.

1278
00:54:25,239 --> 00:54:25,840
Speaker 4: I'm Peanut.

1279
00:54:25,880 --> 00:54:29,440
Speaker 1: That's wrong, that's Anthony. And this is the NFL Player's

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Speaker 1: Second Acts podcast