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Speaker 1: with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson on your Home of

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Speaker 1: the Black and Gold Steelers Nation Radio. So, Matt, the

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Speaker 1: news came out Thursday. Well, first of all, let's walk

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Speaker 1: this Wednesday that Baker Mayfield put out a what was

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Speaker 1: Landa Shawn Watson. And so now that the Browns come

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Speaker 1: out and say we we believe in Baker Mayfield, He's

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Speaker 1: buy that? For one second we were making light of

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Speaker 1: it on today's podcast that it's almost like telling your wife,

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Speaker 1: pass or that that's that's that's not reality. Reality. It

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Speaker 1: just doesn't work unless it's some celebrity that you're never

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Speaker 1: gonna meet in the thousand years anyway, right, not for

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Speaker 1: the neighbor who they then have to see at the

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Speaker 1: sounds like, I mean, Baker didn't take kindly to it.

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Speaker 1: and it's been great. Um, we've seen these situations where

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