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Speaker 1: Welcome to another edition of the Official Jets podcast, Howard

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Speaker 1: by Amazon Web Services, a very special edition of the podcast.

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Speaker 1: Today he caught up with Joe Douglass one on one,

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Speaker 1: talked about all things Jets free agency, looked ahead to

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Speaker 1: the draft a little bit, and then Olivia land Is

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Speaker 1: caught up with Brian Billick, who actually was a part

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Speaker 1: of the Ravens when Joe Douglass was just entering the

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Speaker 1: NFL in Baltimore, so he had some great things to

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Speaker 1: say about Joe Douglass. E A how you hold it

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Speaker 1: up now? On Tuesday in Floren Park doing real well? Greens.

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Speaker 1: How about Joe Douglas and his career, Green says, first

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Speaker 1: year in the National Football League two thousand and he

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Speaker 1: became a champion with the Ravens. Talk about beginner's luck,

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Speaker 1: but you know, obviously not beginners luck, considering Joe Douglas

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Speaker 1: has three Lombardi Trophies, and real quick, before we head

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Speaker 1: into the interview here, what can Jets fans expect out

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Speaker 1: of this interview? I think they can expect Joe Douglas

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Speaker 1: to be solid Joe d meaning he is exactly who

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Speaker 1: people have said he is or was from the beginning

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Speaker 1: when he was hired here last June. Green's guy is

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Speaker 1: so respected throughout the National Football League, Comfortable in his

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Speaker 1: own skin. He sets clear goals, he stays within those

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Speaker 1: boundaries in terms of financial details, also what he's going

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Speaker 1: to do. He's not going to go outside the plan.

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Speaker 1: And he is also a consensus builder. He takes in

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Speaker 1: all the information of people within the complex, and he

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Speaker 1: is awfully happy about the staff he has at one

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Speaker 1: Jets Drive. Couldn't say enough about the people who have

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Speaker 1: helped keep this ship running here during a crazy time

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Speaker 1: for everybody in the United States and the world. Alright, Well,

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Speaker 1: without further ado, he there's Joe Douglas one on one.

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Speaker 1: Joe does the world combats COVID nineteen and invisible Enemy

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Speaker 1: the like we've never seen before. Frankly, what is your

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Speaker 1: new normal? Eric? How you doing? Um? You know, it's

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Speaker 1: uh it's been different. Excuse me. We uh you know,

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Speaker 1: we having free agency and uh small crew in for

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Speaker 1: So um, thankfully, you know, we had you know, Tom

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Speaker 1: Murphy and his staff and I t just did a

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Speaker 1: tremendous job with making sure our communication and our our

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Speaker 1: access to each other was gonna be on point. Ryan

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Speaker 1: O'Hare and video. Our medical team has done an unbelievable

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Speaker 1: job adjusting. So I think everyone's really come together adjusted well.

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Speaker 1: We've been able to use technology to our advantage and

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Speaker 1: be able to communicate and you know, stay on top

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Speaker 1: of everything. How would you just score the philosophy entering

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Speaker 1: free agency and now after you're through the initial wave

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Speaker 1: or two way, I guess we would say, do you

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Speaker 1: like what you've accomplished? Yeah. I think our philosophy going in,

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Speaker 1: you know, when we talked when we talked to them

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Speaker 1: the year, it was about out ultering sports and so

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Speaker 1: to do that you have to have the right people.

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Speaker 1: And so I think our game plan going in was

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Speaker 1: that we're going to bring in a certain type of

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Speaker 1: able to do. Um not only not only the new

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Speaker 1: think all those guys have the right amount of smart

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Speaker 1: we feel good about about the type of people we

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Speaker 1: brought in. Uh, still a lot of work left to do. Um.

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Speaker 1: You know, we're preparing for a huge draft with eight

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Speaker 1: still a lot of work to do, But feel good

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Speaker 1: about where we're at. You just want on a call

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Speaker 1: with the media and you said there's a shortage of

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Speaker 1: one area that you made an emphasis here heading into

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Speaker 1: the offseason. Can you talk about some of the guys

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Speaker 1: and the similar traits they have that you either brought

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Speaker 1: you know, we're we're we're excited to get all those guys.

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Speaker 1: You know, Connor McGovern can play all three interior spots.

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Speaker 1: Josh Andrews can play all three interior spots. Greg Van

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Speaker 1: you like about Brashotte Perryman because you're awfully familiar with

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Speaker 1: him considering your days in Baltimore, you help scout Perryman,

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Speaker 1: So scouting Brashad being as his pro day, UM, watching

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Speaker 1: excited about Brashad. Um. You know he brings, he brings

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Speaker 1: throughout his his early career. UM. Obviously his trajectory UM,

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Speaker 1: How about before free agency started that you got you

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Speaker 1: So UM really, uh, hats off to our pro staff

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Speaker 1: And then Brian Pool was a tremendous system fit under

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Speaker 1: excited are you here now looking ahead to the rafts?

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Speaker 1: Free agency isn't over and we know you're gonna explore

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Speaker 1: you mentioned it before. A word that keeps on coming

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Speaker 1: to mind for me is you said flexibility. Flexibility in

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Speaker 1: terms of the way you're financially getting this thing structured

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Speaker 1: and also financially in the draft, because you have four

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Speaker 1: you know we've I think where we are now, UM,

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