1 00:00:00,560 --> 00:00:02,880 Speaker 1: Caf I am six forty. You're listening to the John 2 00:00:02,920 --> 00:00:06,560 Speaker 1: and Ken Show on demand on the iHeartRadio app. It's 3 00:00:06,640 --> 00:00:10,200 Speaker 1: the Debbie and Ken Vegan Animal Story Show that we've 4 00:00:10,200 --> 00:00:13,520 Speaker 1: all been waiting for three hours of nothing but positive 5 00:00:13,560 --> 00:00:15,120 Speaker 1: vegan and animal story news. 6 00:00:15,400 --> 00:00:17,759 Speaker 2: Finally, finally, Oh. 7 00:00:17,520 --> 00:00:21,400 Speaker 1: I waited for this day my entire career too. I'm 8 00:00:21,440 --> 00:00:25,200 Speaker 1: overwhelmed with emotion. Ah right, I'm lying. But I do 9 00:00:25,280 --> 00:00:28,000 Speaker 1: have some animal stories for you, yay, but will they 10 00:00:28,000 --> 00:00:28,360 Speaker 1: be good? 11 00:00:28,600 --> 00:00:33,560 Speaker 2: No them there. 12 00:00:33,680 --> 00:00:35,240 Speaker 1: I could sit here and tell you all the stories 13 00:00:35,240 --> 00:00:38,239 Speaker 1: where a beautiful dog got adopted from Michelter. Ye. But 14 00:00:38,320 --> 00:00:39,760 Speaker 1: it's just not interesting to people. 15 00:00:39,880 --> 00:00:42,360 Speaker 2: Well, it's interesting to me, but it's it's. 16 00:00:42,200 --> 00:00:43,760 Speaker 1: Not just doing me here. We got an audience. 17 00:00:43,840 --> 00:00:44,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's true. 18 00:00:44,760 --> 00:00:46,880 Speaker 1: They're listening right now and they're waiting for something good, 19 00:00:46,920 --> 00:00:48,360 Speaker 1: and they don't want to hear your happenings. 20 00:00:48,360 --> 00:00:50,760 Speaker 2: I know people just want bad stuff. I don't get it. 21 00:00:51,280 --> 00:00:53,520 Speaker 1: That's right. If it leads, if it bleeds, it leads. 22 00:00:54,520 --> 00:00:54,720 Speaker 3: You know. 23 00:00:55,160 --> 00:00:57,560 Speaker 1: This week has been full of stories that take us 24 00:00:57,600 --> 00:01:00,680 Speaker 1: back a year, a couple of years. With these updates. 25 00:01:01,160 --> 00:01:06,520 Speaker 1: We talked already this week about the most famous transgender 26 00:01:06,520 --> 00:01:10,440 Speaker 1: pedophile in the La County criminal justice system. That's James Tubbs, 27 00:01:10,440 --> 00:01:12,560 Speaker 1: who decided he was a woman so we could get 28 00:01:12,560 --> 00:01:14,520 Speaker 1: better treatment in the criminal justice system. And he just 29 00:01:14,520 --> 00:01:16,640 Speaker 1: pled guilty to a murder in Current County. That was 30 00:01:16,640 --> 00:01:19,119 Speaker 1: the update this week, so he's going away for a while. 31 00:01:19,840 --> 00:01:22,640 Speaker 1: We also had the story of the LAPD officer who 32 00:01:22,760 --> 00:01:26,440 Speaker 1: sued because he was a part of the Garcetti security 33 00:01:26,440 --> 00:01:29,959 Speaker 1: detail and he got continually sexually harassed by a top 34 00:01:30,000 --> 00:01:32,600 Speaker 1: aid to Garcetti, the number one guy by the name 35 00:01:32,600 --> 00:01:34,920 Speaker 1: of Rick Jacobs. He just grabbed a couple million dollars 36 00:01:35,000 --> 00:01:37,480 Speaker 1: from LA has an update on that story. The update 37 00:01:37,520 --> 00:01:39,280 Speaker 1: that we're going to bring you now is something that 38 00:01:39,360 --> 00:01:41,800 Speaker 1: happened almost a year ago, and I guess that's probably 39 00:01:41,800 --> 00:01:45,000 Speaker 1: why they finally decided to charge or don't charge. I 40 00:01:45,000 --> 00:01:46,840 Speaker 1: don't know what the statute of limitations is on this, 41 00:01:46,920 --> 00:01:50,720 Speaker 1: but the La County District Attorney's office did announce some 42 00:01:50,840 --> 00:01:54,600 Speaker 1: charges against the man who plowed his car into the 43 00:01:54,640 --> 00:01:58,280 Speaker 1: group of La County Sheriff's recruits who were on a 44 00:01:58,320 --> 00:02:02,240 Speaker 1: training run in South Whitdia. The date was November sixteenth 45 00:02:02,600 --> 00:02:06,880 Speaker 1: of last year. This man, of course, was originally arrested, 46 00:02:06,880 --> 00:02:10,120 Speaker 1: but then let go Nicholas Joseph Katirez. Let's bring on 47 00:02:10,240 --> 00:02:13,639 Speaker 1: Blake trolley with the details of the case that finally 48 00:02:13,720 --> 00:02:15,200 Speaker 1: came around to charges. Blake. 49 00:02:15,720 --> 00:02:18,320 Speaker 4: Yeah, Ken, and this is happening almost exactly one year 50 00:02:18,400 --> 00:02:22,080 Speaker 4: after Nicholas Gutierrez allegedly swerved into the opposite lane and 51 00:02:22,160 --> 00:02:23,440 Speaker 4: hit those seventy. 52 00:02:23,080 --> 00:02:25,280 Speaker 5: Five Sheriff's recruits who were jogging. 53 00:02:25,639 --> 00:02:28,919 Speaker 4: As you mentioned, he was initially arrested right after the crash, 54 00:02:28,919 --> 00:02:31,840 Speaker 4: but released one day later. Investigators said they needed more 55 00:02:31,840 --> 00:02:35,079 Speaker 4: time to process this one. Well, he was rearrested yesterday. 56 00:02:35,120 --> 00:02:38,040 Speaker 4: He was hit with one felony count of vehicular manslaughter 57 00:02:38,120 --> 00:02:42,600 Speaker 4: with gross negligence in nine counts of reckless driving. Again, 58 00:02:42,680 --> 00:02:46,720 Speaker 4: Goody Aras allegedly swerved his Honda CRV into the opposite lane. 59 00:02:46,800 --> 00:02:49,639 Speaker 4: There were seventy five recruits. They were jogging in rows, 60 00:02:49,639 --> 00:02:52,679 Speaker 4: so they were in formation and he plowed into them, 61 00:02:52,720 --> 00:02:54,040 Speaker 4: injuring twenty. 62 00:02:53,680 --> 00:02:54,359 Speaker 5: Five of them. 63 00:02:54,400 --> 00:02:57,880 Speaker 4: This crash now has him facing twelve years in prison. 64 00:02:57,919 --> 00:03:00,959 Speaker 4: And the charges really came as a surprise yesterday, Ken, 65 00:03:01,360 --> 00:03:04,720 Speaker 4: there really wasn't any heads up. DA Gascon actually tacked 66 00:03:04,760 --> 00:03:08,080 Speaker 4: on the announcement that Gudiera's has been arrested in charged 67 00:03:08,080 --> 00:03:11,079 Speaker 4: to another press conference that he held late yesterday. I'm 68 00:03:11,120 --> 00:03:13,600 Speaker 4: told that was intentional and it was done to keep 69 00:03:13,639 --> 00:03:16,880 Speaker 4: officers safe as they tried to take Gudiiraz into custody. 70 00:03:17,400 --> 00:03:20,200 Speaker 4: He has since been released on a five hundred thousand 71 00:03:20,280 --> 00:03:20,960 Speaker 4: dollars bail. 72 00:03:21,360 --> 00:03:22,680 Speaker 5: Now, while we're still waiting on. 73 00:03:22,680 --> 00:03:25,840 Speaker 4: Details as to exactly how they came to these charges, 74 00:03:25,880 --> 00:03:29,000 Speaker 4: I spoke today the Deputy Da Eric Sadal who's handling 75 00:03:29,040 --> 00:03:31,040 Speaker 4: this case, and he explained to me, while he can't 76 00:03:31,080 --> 00:03:34,080 Speaker 4: let out too many details, the real crime he and 77 00:03:34,120 --> 00:03:36,520 Speaker 4: the other prosecutor who are handling this case are pointing 78 00:03:36,560 --> 00:03:40,520 Speaker 4: to here is, buddy, you were extremely tired. You knew 79 00:03:40,560 --> 00:03:42,600 Speaker 4: you were tired, and you should not have gotten behind 80 00:03:42,600 --> 00:03:45,320 Speaker 4: the wheel of that car. And yesterday Da Gascon seemed 81 00:03:45,320 --> 00:03:47,800 Speaker 4: to hint at that when he made a statement about 82 00:03:47,840 --> 00:03:49,640 Speaker 4: this crash and several other crashes. 83 00:03:49,920 --> 00:03:54,360 Speaker 3: When you decide to drive recklessly, when you decide to 84 00:03:54,440 --> 00:03:58,640 Speaker 3: go and speak way about the speed limit, when you 85 00:03:58,680 --> 00:04:02,240 Speaker 3: decide to drink and drive, when you decide to arrive 86 00:04:02,360 --> 00:04:06,680 Speaker 3: while you're sol tire and you're unable to pay attention 87 00:04:06,800 --> 00:04:09,320 Speaker 3: to what you're doing, you're putting all of us at 88 00:04:09,400 --> 00:04:10,240 Speaker 3: risk now. 89 00:04:10,320 --> 00:04:12,800 Speaker 4: As you know, former La County Sheriff Alex ving the 90 00:04:12,840 --> 00:04:16,240 Speaker 4: Wave initially said that he felt that this was intentional. 91 00:04:16,920 --> 00:04:18,400 Speaker 5: We're told I was told. 92 00:04:18,200 --> 00:04:22,279 Speaker 4: Today that investigators have not found any evidence that points 93 00:04:22,320 --> 00:04:26,000 Speaker 4: to or supports the claim that this was intentional. 94 00:04:26,080 --> 00:04:27,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, there were people at the scene that said that 95 00:04:27,960 --> 00:04:29,599 Speaker 1: he wouldn't take his foot off the gas pedal. I 96 00:04:29,640 --> 00:04:32,200 Speaker 1: remember this now. There were several recruits. They surrounded him 97 00:04:32,240 --> 00:04:33,560 Speaker 1: in the car and it was like he wanted to 98 00:04:33,640 --> 00:04:36,520 Speaker 1: keep going. That's I guess that story didn't pan enough 99 00:04:36,520 --> 00:04:37,040 Speaker 1: for charges. 100 00:04:37,680 --> 00:04:41,080 Speaker 4: Didn't pan out enough for charges, Yeah, exactly. We're told 101 00:04:41,120 --> 00:04:43,880 Speaker 4: that Gudyeiras also was leaving his home and was on 102 00:04:43,960 --> 00:04:46,080 Speaker 4: his way to work, so he was not out parting 103 00:04:46,160 --> 00:04:49,000 Speaker 4: all night. As you remember as well from the accounts 104 00:04:49,080 --> 00:04:51,479 Speaker 4: last year, he did take a breathalyzer and that came 105 00:04:51,560 --> 00:04:54,480 Speaker 4: up that he was in fact sober. So really, what 106 00:04:54,520 --> 00:04:57,839 Speaker 4: this hinges on is that, again, as I mentioned, he 107 00:04:57,920 --> 00:05:01,480 Speaker 4: was very tired. Prosecutors, he knew he was tired. New 108 00:05:01,600 --> 00:05:04,680 Speaker 4: driving was probably not a very good idea, but went 109 00:05:04,800 --> 00:05:08,320 Speaker 4: driving anyways, and now we've ended up with twenty five 110 00:05:08,360 --> 00:05:11,760 Speaker 4: injured recruits and one killed. Now part of the update 111 00:05:11,800 --> 00:05:14,839 Speaker 4: we got yesterday from Robert Luna, he broke down the 112 00:05:14,880 --> 00:05:17,200 Speaker 4: severity of the recruit's injuries, as well as the one 113 00:05:17,200 --> 00:05:21,160 Speaker 4: recruit who was killed. The recruit killed Alejandro Martinez, twenty 114 00:05:21,160 --> 00:05:23,720 Speaker 4: seven year old veteran and a graduate of cal State 115 00:05:24,000 --> 00:05:27,000 Speaker 4: North rich He died months later at a hospital. So 116 00:05:27,040 --> 00:05:28,960 Speaker 4: he was taken to a hospital after that crash and 117 00:05:29,040 --> 00:05:32,279 Speaker 4: ultimately succumbed to his injuries. But Robert Luna painted a 118 00:05:32,279 --> 00:05:35,599 Speaker 4: grim reality for some of the injured still battling issues 119 00:05:35,640 --> 00:05:36,080 Speaker 4: from all this. 120 00:05:36,279 --> 00:05:38,800 Speaker 6: I can tell you this that those that were impacted, 121 00:05:40,200 --> 00:05:48,160 Speaker 6: some of them may be impacted for life. So what 122 00:05:48,240 --> 00:05:54,320 Speaker 6: this suspect did impacted many people and their families forever. Again, 123 00:05:54,400 --> 00:05:58,000 Speaker 6: some of them dreamt of becoming police officers or deputy sheriffs. 124 00:05:58,680 --> 00:06:00,360 Speaker 1: They're not going to be able to do that. 125 00:06:00,680 --> 00:06:03,000 Speaker 6: I hope some of them will will continue to pray 126 00:06:03,040 --> 00:06:05,880 Speaker 6: for their recovery and that they can serve the community 127 00:06:05,920 --> 00:06:07,240 Speaker 6: as they've always wanted to. 128 00:06:08,440 --> 00:06:11,040 Speaker 1: Did we get a story? This was early in the morning, 129 00:06:11,120 --> 00:06:12,000 Speaker 1: right six thirty. 130 00:06:11,839 --> 00:06:13,760 Speaker 4: Or something, I believe, Yeah, it was really early in 131 00:06:13,800 --> 00:06:16,120 Speaker 4: the morning. I remember responding to it. I think I 132 00:06:16,160 --> 00:06:18,599 Speaker 4: had just begun doing the early morning live hits. This 133 00:06:18,640 --> 00:06:19,960 Speaker 4: is one of the first things we went out to, 134 00:06:20,040 --> 00:06:22,119 Speaker 4: and we went out right away. It was real early 135 00:06:22,160 --> 00:06:25,280 Speaker 4: in the morning. This street in which he hit these 136 00:06:25,320 --> 00:06:28,000 Speaker 4: recruits on, it's kind of a t street. There's a 137 00:06:28,000 --> 00:06:30,680 Speaker 4: bunch of residential streets that meet it, and he hit 138 00:06:30,720 --> 00:06:32,440 Speaker 4: them right in front of a middle school or an 139 00:06:32,440 --> 00:06:34,240 Speaker 4: elementary school. As you remember, they had to close the 140 00:06:34,279 --> 00:06:37,920 Speaker 4: elementary school. I've yet to find a speed limit can 141 00:06:37,960 --> 00:06:41,240 Speaker 4: on that street, but I imagine it's somewhere around forty miles 142 00:06:41,279 --> 00:06:43,599 Speaker 4: an hour because when you get close to the school, 143 00:06:43,720 --> 00:06:46,880 Speaker 4: and I surveyed this on foot, I didn't see much then. 144 00:06:47,040 --> 00:06:49,120 Speaker 4: Even on Google Maps, it takes a while to find 145 00:06:49,120 --> 00:06:50,800 Speaker 4: speed limit signs. But when you get close to the school, 146 00:06:50,839 --> 00:06:53,080 Speaker 4: you see those speed limit signs that say twenty five 147 00:06:53,120 --> 00:06:55,520 Speaker 4: miles an hour when children are present. So I'd imagine 148 00:06:55,560 --> 00:06:57,640 Speaker 4: it's somewhere in about forty miles an hour, just by 149 00:06:58,240 --> 00:06:59,039 Speaker 4: the nature. 150 00:06:58,720 --> 00:07:00,760 Speaker 5: Of the road and kind of where it runs. 151 00:07:00,800 --> 00:07:03,240 Speaker 1: And do we know what speed he was operating the 152 00:07:03,279 --> 00:07:05,600 Speaker 1: car out at the point he started to hit the recruits. 153 00:07:05,960 --> 00:07:07,200 Speaker 5: No, we have yet to get that. 154 00:07:07,600 --> 00:07:10,720 Speaker 4: To get that information again, a lot of what had happened, 155 00:07:10,760 --> 00:07:12,400 Speaker 4: and I think this is something we're all going to 156 00:07:12,480 --> 00:07:14,520 Speaker 4: be kind of anticipating to come out here in the 157 00:07:14,520 --> 00:07:18,200 Speaker 4: next few weeks. Is exactly what was he doing? Why 158 00:07:18,240 --> 00:07:20,440 Speaker 4: did he? I mean, we hear now that he was 159 00:07:20,560 --> 00:07:23,240 Speaker 4: leaving his home and going to work, So what about 160 00:07:23,240 --> 00:07:25,120 Speaker 4: this was a bad decision? 161 00:07:25,240 --> 00:07:27,280 Speaker 5: Was he up all night? Was he watching TV? Playing 162 00:07:28,200 --> 00:07:28,800 Speaker 5: at six thirty? 163 00:07:28,840 --> 00:07:31,560 Speaker 1: So did he not sleep the night before? And there 164 00:07:31,560 --> 00:07:34,080 Speaker 1: was that video that was from what like a family's 165 00:07:34,320 --> 00:07:36,280 Speaker 1: yard or something that looked like he was kind of 166 00:07:36,280 --> 00:07:38,800 Speaker 1: steering himself into the recruits. But I guess if you 167 00:07:38,800 --> 00:07:40,320 Speaker 1: could blow it up, you might be able to see 168 00:07:40,360 --> 00:07:43,040 Speaker 1: him behind the wheel, you know, dropping off, getting busy. 169 00:07:43,320 --> 00:07:43,720 Speaker 1: I don't know. 170 00:07:43,960 --> 00:07:46,320 Speaker 4: Yeah, he claims he fell asleep last year, as you remember, 171 00:07:46,320 --> 00:07:49,640 Speaker 4: he told reporters that he had fallen asleep behind the wheel. 172 00:07:49,800 --> 00:07:53,640 Speaker 4: And again the claims as well that he was speeding 173 00:07:53,720 --> 00:07:56,280 Speaker 4: up as he got closer to them, we're told by investigators, 174 00:07:56,320 --> 00:07:59,720 Speaker 4: have also turned out not to be true. So it's 175 00:08:00,080 --> 00:08:02,400 Speaker 4: you know, again, I think it really hinges on what. Yeah, 176 00:08:02,480 --> 00:08:05,120 Speaker 4: what was it about his decision to drive that morning 177 00:08:05,840 --> 00:08:07,920 Speaker 4: that was negligent? But at this time they do not 178 00:08:08,000 --> 00:08:11,480 Speaker 4: think there was any intent to actually harm these recruits, 179 00:08:11,520 --> 00:08:13,040 Speaker 4: and I think part of that comes to the fact 180 00:08:13,080 --> 00:08:16,200 Speaker 4: that this kid came from a family where multiple members 181 00:08:16,200 --> 00:08:19,440 Speaker 4: were members of law enforcement. His father was a corrections officer. 182 00:08:19,480 --> 00:08:22,720 Speaker 4: He's related to some deputies, some LAPD officers. So it 183 00:08:22,760 --> 00:08:24,720 Speaker 4: doesn't appear to be any sort of case where he's 184 00:08:24,720 --> 00:08:27,720 Speaker 4: got a you know, a resent towards towards law enforcement. 185 00:08:28,120 --> 00:08:30,800 Speaker 4: And we had that confirmed today by prosecutors. They're not 186 00:08:30,840 --> 00:08:32,120 Speaker 4: suspecting any of that. 187 00:08:32,520 --> 00:08:37,319 Speaker 1: And he did not have any criminal background, as I recall, No, nothing, no, 188 00:08:37,520 --> 00:08:39,040 Speaker 1: And do you have any response from any of the 189 00:08:39,080 --> 00:08:41,480 Speaker 1: recruits yet to the charges, whether they're happy with this, 190 00:08:41,640 --> 00:08:42,920 Speaker 1: unhappy with this, or nothing. 191 00:08:43,000 --> 00:08:45,640 Speaker 4: I guess official I think, well, I saw the La 192 00:08:45,720 --> 00:08:47,360 Speaker 4: Times that reached out to some of the families that 193 00:08:47,400 --> 00:08:50,040 Speaker 4: I know. Some of the families appeared to be pretty 194 00:08:50,040 --> 00:08:52,400 Speaker 4: happy that, you know, some sort of charges were brought down. 195 00:08:52,440 --> 00:08:55,520 Speaker 4: Mind you, this was exactly we're almost exactly a year out, 196 00:08:55,559 --> 00:08:58,600 Speaker 4: so I could imagine there was some frustration building, you know, 197 00:08:58,640 --> 00:09:01,280 Speaker 4: what's going on with this case. I know the LA 198 00:09:01,360 --> 00:09:03,960 Speaker 4: Times profiled one of the recruits, the daughter of a 199 00:09:04,280 --> 00:09:07,480 Speaker 4: CHP officer. She was injured. She was trying to follow 200 00:09:07,520 --> 00:09:10,240 Speaker 4: her father's footsteps. And I guess he told the La 201 00:09:10,320 --> 00:09:12,440 Speaker 4: Times he doesn't know now she'll be able to work anywhere, 202 00:09:12,720 --> 00:09:15,480 Speaker 4: so let alone law enforcement. So I know there's a 203 00:09:15,520 --> 00:09:19,920 Speaker 4: lot of frustration as to what happened to these young recruits. 204 00:09:20,200 --> 00:09:24,240 Speaker 1: All right, DWT driving while tired. Thank you very much, 205 00:09:24,280 --> 00:09:25,160 Speaker 1: Blake for that report. 206 00:09:25,679 --> 00:09:26,839 Speaker 5: All right, thanks ken Ah. 207 00:09:26,920 --> 00:09:29,800 Speaker 1: It's Blake Trolly KFI News covering the case from nearly 208 00:09:29,840 --> 00:09:31,800 Speaker 1: a year ago. The guy who ran into the La 209 00:09:31,840 --> 00:09:36,480 Speaker 1: County Sheriff's Department of Recruits in South Whittier, striking seventy well, 210 00:09:36,480 --> 00:09:38,840 Speaker 1: he struck more than two dozen with his car. There 211 00:09:38,840 --> 00:09:42,079 Speaker 1: were seventy five out on a training run, five critically injured. 212 00:09:42,120 --> 00:09:45,160 Speaker 1: Of course, twenty seven year old Alto Handro Martinez died. 213 00:09:45,240 --> 00:09:47,480 Speaker 1: He lingered for eight months before he passed away. It's 214 00:09:47,480 --> 00:09:49,920 Speaker 1: a manslaughter case where it might get this guy goodyear 215 00:09:50,040 --> 00:09:52,160 Speaker 1: is twelve years in state prison. 216 00:09:53,320 --> 00:09:56,680 Speaker 7: You're listening to John and Ken on demand from KFI 217 00:09:56,880 --> 00:09:58,160 Speaker 7: Am six forty. 218 00:09:57,960 --> 00:10:01,520 Speaker 1: And in three twenty we will follow that with the moistline. 219 00:10:01,520 --> 00:10:03,480 Speaker 1: We got two rounds coming up in the three o'clock hour. 220 00:10:03,960 --> 00:10:06,160 Speaker 1: Mob members have been assembled to help us throw a 221 00:10:06,200 --> 00:10:08,559 Speaker 1: hack and a dumpster after the news at three point thirty. 222 00:10:08,679 --> 00:10:12,640 Speaker 1: So it's a fully loaded John and Ken show and 223 00:10:12,720 --> 00:10:15,440 Speaker 1: coming up after the news at one thirty. It is 224 00:10:15,480 --> 00:10:19,320 Speaker 1: the first animal story for Deborah Mark and I am 225 00:10:19,360 --> 00:10:22,320 Speaker 1: on her side, yay, vehemently on hers. We did do 226 00:10:22,360 --> 00:10:24,559 Speaker 1: this story. We talked about it. It's sort another kind 227 00:10:24,559 --> 00:10:27,240 Speaker 1: of an update. But I agree with her when we 228 00:10:27,280 --> 00:10:29,480 Speaker 1: did the story then, and I agree with her now. 229 00:10:29,520 --> 00:10:32,520 Speaker 1: And I think it's ridiculous that the state of California 230 00:10:32,600 --> 00:10:35,880 Speaker 1: is suing someone over this suing someone. You'll find out 231 00:10:36,240 --> 00:10:38,960 Speaker 1: what it is coming up after the news at one thirty. 232 00:10:39,080 --> 00:10:41,520 Speaker 1: All right, Well, the other update story is one that 233 00:10:41,559 --> 00:10:44,040 Speaker 1: I covered in the summer of last year, July of 234 00:10:44,080 --> 00:10:48,520 Speaker 1: twenty twenty two, there was a liquor store in Norco 235 00:10:48,960 --> 00:10:52,560 Speaker 1: and an attempted robbery. You may even remember that I 236 00:10:52,720 --> 00:10:55,800 Speaker 1: interviewed the man that owned the liquor store, who was 237 00:10:55,880 --> 00:10:59,840 Speaker 1: behind the counter that night, just doing some late night paperwork. 238 00:11:00,080 --> 00:11:03,880 Speaker 1: Name is Craig Cope, eighty years old. It's three in 239 00:11:03,920 --> 00:11:06,440 Speaker 1: the morning. I guess Craig couldn't sleep, so he's up 240 00:11:06,480 --> 00:11:11,120 Speaker 1: doing paperwork in the market. Well, BMW pulls up full 241 00:11:11,160 --> 00:11:13,679 Speaker 1: of guys I think, mostly from Los Angeles, and they 242 00:11:13,720 --> 00:11:17,400 Speaker 1: weren't kidding around. The first one comes in with a 243 00:11:17,720 --> 00:11:20,600 Speaker 1: it's quite a firearm too, and he's got it pointed 244 00:11:20,920 --> 00:11:23,400 Speaker 1: at mister Cope who's behind the counter, and it looks 245 00:11:23,400 --> 00:11:25,640 Speaker 1: like he might have one of those plastic shield things 246 00:11:25,760 --> 00:11:28,680 Speaker 1: or something there. But you know what, eighty year old 247 00:11:28,679 --> 00:11:32,280 Speaker 1: Craig Cope didn't wait to be robbed to be shot 248 00:11:32,559 --> 00:11:36,760 Speaker 1: to deal with this jerk. He fired his weapon and 249 00:11:36,880 --> 00:11:41,280 Speaker 1: the Los Angeles man, whose name is Rashid Deshaun Lee Belvin. 250 00:11:42,080 --> 00:11:43,840 Speaker 1: We played it many times. We're going to play it 251 00:11:43,840 --> 00:12:01,920 Speaker 1: one more time again. This is him leaving the liquor store. Wow. 252 00:12:03,480 --> 00:12:06,880 Speaker 1: Because this happened in Riverside County. Of course, Craig Cope 253 00:12:06,920 --> 00:12:10,480 Speaker 1: was not charged with anything. Unfortunately, it says here he 254 00:12:10,520 --> 00:12:12,960 Speaker 1: had a heart attack or a heart problem during this 255 00:12:13,120 --> 00:12:16,680 Speaker 1: robbery and eventually succumbed to a stroke later in the year. 256 00:12:16,800 --> 00:12:19,400 Speaker 1: So we really mourned the passing of a man that 257 00:12:19,559 --> 00:12:22,199 Speaker 1: just said. I interviewed him. He said, this too much 258 00:12:22,200 --> 00:12:23,839 Speaker 1: of this going on, and I wasn't gonna wait to 259 00:12:23,840 --> 00:12:26,040 Speaker 1: see what was going to happen, was his words. That's 260 00:12:26,080 --> 00:12:28,760 Speaker 1: why he fired when this man came in and basically 261 00:12:28,840 --> 00:12:30,960 Speaker 1: wanted to just rob the place and with that weapon, 262 00:12:31,280 --> 00:12:34,200 Speaker 1: he wasn't kidding around. So the update on the story 263 00:12:34,280 --> 00:12:37,040 Speaker 1: is that Rashid DeShawn Lee Belvin, twenty four years old, 264 00:12:37,440 --> 00:12:41,240 Speaker 1: has pled guilty to commit robbery, attempted robbery, assault with 265 00:12:41,280 --> 00:12:43,560 Speaker 1: a machine gun or assault weapon, cruelty to an elder. 266 00:12:43,559 --> 00:12:46,640 Speaker 1: It's a good one, carrying a loaded stolen firearm, illegal 267 00:12:46,720 --> 00:12:50,240 Speaker 1: possession of an assault weapon, and two counts of receiving 268 00:12:50,280 --> 00:12:54,079 Speaker 1: stolen property. He got eight years alone on the assault charge. 269 00:12:54,440 --> 00:12:56,959 Speaker 1: In total, he was sentenced by this judge Gary. The 270 00:12:57,040 --> 00:13:00,000 Speaker 1: first year is to be served locally where he find 271 00:13:00,320 --> 00:13:04,400 Speaker 1: similar robbery charges in Orange County. So this guy's been 272 00:13:04,480 --> 00:13:07,880 Speaker 1: up to this and this was a big deal, you know. 273 00:13:07,960 --> 00:13:10,000 Speaker 1: Along with the smashing grabs we had, people are going 274 00:13:10,000 --> 00:13:13,040 Speaker 1: around robbing liquor stores and convenience stores and sometimes they 275 00:13:13,080 --> 00:13:15,240 Speaker 1: would go on a tear all day at all night long. 276 00:13:15,440 --> 00:13:17,920 Speaker 1: They would just drive from one seven to eleven or 277 00:13:17,920 --> 00:13:20,559 Speaker 1: convenience store to the next one and rip it off. 278 00:13:21,120 --> 00:13:24,440 Speaker 1: And that's why they added on the elder charges because 279 00:13:25,520 --> 00:13:28,920 Speaker 1: Craig Cope did suffer a heart attack because of the crime. 280 00:13:29,440 --> 00:13:32,120 Speaker 1: The other thing that happened here for Craig and the 281 00:13:32,160 --> 00:13:35,640 Speaker 1: whole community of Norco, which is Horsetown, is that they 282 00:13:35,880 --> 00:13:40,720 Speaker 1: rallied around them. In fact, people gathered, the media gathered, 283 00:13:40,880 --> 00:13:45,640 Speaker 1: people started to print up t shirts. Don't mess with Norco, 284 00:13:46,200 --> 00:13:50,840 Speaker 1: We'll shoot your arm off. Became pretty popular, and you know, 285 00:13:50,960 --> 00:13:52,840 Speaker 1: that's the kind of place where we don't have that 286 00:13:53,640 --> 00:13:57,079 Speaker 1: in La Right, we've had instances in the last year 287 00:13:57,120 --> 00:13:59,800 Speaker 1: where some people are about to be robbed are fighting, 288 00:14:00,840 --> 00:14:03,680 Speaker 1: and that's outstanding. Remember the convenience store clerks up in 289 00:14:03,679 --> 00:14:06,160 Speaker 1: the Bay Area that took the stick to a homeless guy. 290 00:14:06,720 --> 00:14:08,720 Speaker 1: But when somebody comes in with the weapon like this, 291 00:14:09,720 --> 00:14:12,960 Speaker 1: you're not gonna win with a stick. So it's difficult 292 00:14:13,080 --> 00:14:15,960 Speaker 1: unless you've armed yourself. And I guess what happened with 293 00:14:16,000 --> 00:14:18,920 Speaker 1: Craig is he saw them on the surveillance camera pulling 294 00:14:18,960 --> 00:14:21,200 Speaker 1: up in the park and its three am. All right, 295 00:14:21,320 --> 00:14:23,400 Speaker 1: somebody may have a late night beer run, but maybe 296 00:14:23,440 --> 00:14:25,840 Speaker 1: I ought to take a look at this. And he 297 00:14:25,920 --> 00:14:29,600 Speaker 1: realized that this is not good, so he got himself 298 00:14:29,640 --> 00:14:32,160 Speaker 1: ready and he wasn't I love that line. I'm not 299 00:14:32,160 --> 00:14:34,120 Speaker 1: going to wait around to see what happens, So we 300 00:14:34,200 --> 00:14:37,160 Speaker 1: fired the shot which this man screamed and I don't 301 00:14:37,160 --> 00:14:39,520 Speaker 1: know what. Does he still have his arm? I don't 302 00:14:39,560 --> 00:14:41,960 Speaker 1: know the update and that do I really care if 303 00:14:41,960 --> 00:14:46,840 Speaker 1: the robber still has his arm? Apparently Craig also eventually 304 00:14:46,880 --> 00:14:51,080 Speaker 1: got a check from people who helped proceeds of selling 305 00:14:51,120 --> 00:14:54,120 Speaker 1: merchandise tied to the shooting, which included that T shirt 306 00:14:54,440 --> 00:14:56,880 Speaker 1: that I read, don't mess with norco, We'll shoot your 307 00:14:56,960 --> 00:14:59,760 Speaker 1: arm off with the picture of a long gun with 308 00:14:59,880 --> 00:15:03,520 Speaker 1: it all right. When we come back, we will do 309 00:15:03,560 --> 00:15:05,920 Speaker 1: an update on another story, and one that is really, 310 00:15:06,160 --> 00:15:10,600 Speaker 1: really horrible. The state of California is suing a family 311 00:15:10,920 --> 00:15:14,480 Speaker 1: for a ridiculous reason. You might say it's on principle, 312 00:15:14,560 --> 00:15:18,080 Speaker 1: we have to stand on principle horrible. It involves a 313 00:15:18,080 --> 00:15:20,840 Speaker 1: little girl and a goat. 314 00:15:21,800 --> 00:15:25,160 Speaker 7: You're listening to John and Ken on demand from KFI 315 00:15:25,400 --> 00:15:26,320 Speaker 7: AM six forty. 316 00:15:26,840 --> 00:15:29,240 Speaker 1: I used to I thought it happened like the Friday 317 00:15:29,240 --> 00:15:31,960 Speaker 1: before Thanksgivings, ebby next Friday. So that's why I think 318 00:15:31,960 --> 00:15:36,040 Speaker 1: it did years ago, getting early and earlier. Well, are 319 00:15:36,080 --> 00:15:38,160 Speaker 1: you one of those people that watches like those channels 320 00:15:38,200 --> 00:15:39,920 Speaker 1: that run all Christmas movies Hallmark channels? 321 00:15:40,120 --> 00:15:42,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, When I was a kid, I did not here. 322 00:15:42,280 --> 00:15:44,600 Speaker 1: You actually like these streaming shows where people die and stuff, 323 00:15:44,600 --> 00:15:44,920 Speaker 1: don't you? 324 00:15:45,040 --> 00:15:45,240 Speaker 5: Well? 325 00:15:45,280 --> 00:15:48,120 Speaker 1: Some yeah like these dramas. 326 00:15:48,720 --> 00:15:49,400 Speaker 2: I love drama. 327 00:15:49,520 --> 00:15:51,160 Speaker 1: I love people would have pictured you as like this. 328 00:15:51,360 --> 00:15:53,480 Speaker 1: I'm only gonna listen to watch feeld good movies where 329 00:15:53,680 --> 00:15:56,680 Speaker 1: the happy couple you know, gets together and you know ken. 330 00:15:56,880 --> 00:15:59,360 Speaker 2: People have told me that I've changed since I've been 331 00:15:59,400 --> 00:15:59,920 Speaker 2: on the show. 332 00:16:00,200 --> 00:16:04,080 Speaker 1: You got dark and John yep, yep, yep, now you know, 333 00:16:04,520 --> 00:16:05,760 Speaker 1: and you spend a lot of time with him. 334 00:16:05,800 --> 00:16:08,440 Speaker 2: Now I'm getting darker and darker. 335 00:16:10,080 --> 00:16:13,560 Speaker 1: He does rub off on people and can kfi a 336 00:16:13,760 --> 00:16:16,400 Speaker 1: six forty relive everywhere the iHeartRadio app. John has got 337 00:16:16,760 --> 00:16:19,360 Speaker 1: a vacation day. Don't worry, he'll be here on Monday. 338 00:16:19,560 --> 00:16:22,400 Speaker 1: Next hour, Oh man, don't breathe the air and Tustin. 339 00:16:22,880 --> 00:16:24,560 Speaker 1: I don't know about the rest of Orange County, but 340 00:16:24,680 --> 00:16:28,200 Speaker 1: wow that fire at the blimp Hager. The blimp Hager. 341 00:16:28,360 --> 00:16:31,400 Speaker 1: I'm like, oh is a blimp Hager? Because I drive 342 00:16:31,480 --> 00:16:32,960 Speaker 1: up the four or five by Carson, I see the 343 00:16:32,960 --> 00:16:35,320 Speaker 1: goodyear blincher just parked mostly outside. But I guess a 344 00:16:35,360 --> 00:16:37,920 Speaker 1: hanger will help him from get big winds or bad weather. 345 00:16:38,280 --> 00:16:41,200 Speaker 1: They put park him in there. But anyway, it burnt, 346 00:16:41,800 --> 00:16:44,800 Speaker 1: and they've learned now that it's got some pretty nasty 347 00:16:44,880 --> 00:16:48,400 Speaker 1: materials floating in the air, possibly asbestos. We're gonna be 348 00:16:48,400 --> 00:16:51,640 Speaker 1: talking Orange County Supervisor Don Wagner after the news at 349 00:16:51,640 --> 00:16:56,360 Speaker 1: two o'clock about what's going on with that story. Right now, though, 350 00:16:56,400 --> 00:16:59,200 Speaker 1: we bring you another update story and I'm with Deborah 351 00:16:59,280 --> 00:17:01,680 Speaker 1: Mark and this does rile her up. It's about Cedar 352 00:17:01,840 --> 00:17:07,159 Speaker 1: the goat. Yeah, Cedar the goat. Well, it's about a 353 00:17:07,200 --> 00:17:10,160 Speaker 1: little girl, a nine year old girl named Jessica Long, 354 00:17:10,880 --> 00:17:14,160 Speaker 1: and they purchased Cedar the goat seven months old. It's 355 00:17:14,200 --> 00:17:18,680 Speaker 1: a white boar goat. In April of last year, they 356 00:17:18,800 --> 00:17:22,000 Speaker 1: registered the goat in the junior livestock auction at the 357 00:17:22,080 --> 00:17:26,520 Speaker 1: Shasta District Fair. But as we got closer and closer 358 00:17:26,520 --> 00:17:28,800 Speaker 1: to the auction date, can you guess what happened with 359 00:17:28,880 --> 00:17:32,480 Speaker 1: a nine year old girl and Cedar the goat. They bonded, 360 00:17:33,560 --> 00:17:35,800 Speaker 1: so the girl did not want to give up the 361 00:17:35,800 --> 00:17:40,480 Speaker 1: goat to auction because that probably means you know what 362 00:17:40,520 --> 00:17:46,800 Speaker 1: that means. Yeah, so they backed out of the sale. 363 00:17:48,160 --> 00:17:51,080 Speaker 1: Well that's turned this into quite a story because it's 364 00:17:51,119 --> 00:17:54,640 Speaker 1: dealing with the four h Future Farmers of America all 365 00:17:54,680 --> 00:17:57,920 Speaker 1: of the rules and the contract between this family and 366 00:17:57,960 --> 00:18:02,960 Speaker 1: the operators of the auction before Cedar could be killed. 367 00:18:03,480 --> 00:18:06,320 Speaker 1: According to a lawsuit the family is filed, she exercised 368 00:18:06,320 --> 00:18:09,720 Speaker 1: her statutory rights as a minor to reject any contract 369 00:18:09,760 --> 00:18:11,800 Speaker 1: she may have had with the fair. Love that I 370 00:18:11,880 --> 00:18:14,240 Speaker 1: know if that's going to hold up. But anyway, so 371 00:18:14,280 --> 00:18:17,320 Speaker 1: she took the goat from the fair and she eventually 372 00:18:17,440 --> 00:18:21,000 Speaker 1: took it to a sanctuary, the Bleeding Hearts Farm and 373 00:18:21,040 --> 00:18:25,760 Speaker 1: Sanctuary in Redding. Well, that didn't sit well with the 374 00:18:25,800 --> 00:18:30,320 Speaker 1: fair operators and the auction operators, so they dispatched. Eventually 375 00:18:30,440 --> 00:18:32,440 Speaker 1: they got a search warrk and in half a david 376 00:18:32,480 --> 00:18:35,359 Speaker 1: from the chef to County Sheriff's office and a couple 377 00:18:35,359 --> 00:18:38,120 Speaker 1: of officers drove two hundred miles to get that damn goat. 378 00:18:38,240 --> 00:18:41,040 Speaker 2: How ridiculous is that? Ken, I mean, come on, really, 379 00:18:41,040 --> 00:18:42,640 Speaker 2: you don't have anything better to do. 380 00:18:44,920 --> 00:18:47,720 Speaker 1: And they they took the goat, They got the goat, 381 00:18:48,320 --> 00:18:50,800 Speaker 1: they took it back. It was auctioned off and from 382 00:18:50,840 --> 00:18:54,440 Speaker 1: what we understand, slaughtered. 383 00:18:54,000 --> 00:18:54,960 Speaker 2: And it was a baby. 384 00:18:55,880 --> 00:18:57,679 Speaker 1: We don't know whether it was used for meat or 385 00:18:57,720 --> 00:18:59,400 Speaker 1: what else. Did you do with goat. 386 00:18:59,520 --> 00:19:02,159 Speaker 2: I have no idea. Goats are so sweet, they're at 387 00:19:02,160 --> 00:19:07,560 Speaker 2: petting zoos. Why you can't, right, So why do they 388 00:19:07,600 --> 00:19:08,280 Speaker 2: kill the goat? 389 00:19:09,160 --> 00:19:10,960 Speaker 1: I don't know if those are good for what? Fire 390 00:19:11,000 --> 00:19:12,360 Speaker 1: prevention because they are. 391 00:19:12,520 --> 00:19:15,160 Speaker 2: Like the grasses or absolutely. 392 00:19:15,040 --> 00:19:18,000 Speaker 1: No, I'm with you. I don't understand. So guess I mean. 393 00:19:18,119 --> 00:19:20,159 Speaker 1: So they have sued the state, and the State of 394 00:19:20,160 --> 00:19:24,720 Speaker 1: California sued back. This is embarrassing. Californiatorney General Rob Bonta 395 00:19:25,000 --> 00:19:26,840 Speaker 1: is suing the family, and the family is suing the 396 00:19:26,880 --> 00:19:31,119 Speaker 1: state over this Sacramento Federal Court. Now Bonta wants the 397 00:19:31,160 --> 00:19:33,399 Speaker 1: lawsuit by them dismissed because he doesn't think the Feds 398 00:19:33,440 --> 00:19:38,600 Speaker 1: have jurisdiction over the matter. This young girl cared for 399 00:19:38,760 --> 00:19:41,600 Speaker 1: and fed Cedar every day and bonded with the animal 400 00:19:41,640 --> 00:19:44,359 Speaker 1: like it was a family pet. But I don't know. 401 00:19:44,560 --> 00:19:46,399 Speaker 1: I guess they decided that they couldn't keep it, so 402 00:19:46,400 --> 00:19:48,199 Speaker 1: they gave it to the sanctuary. 403 00:19:47,640 --> 00:19:49,000 Speaker 2: Which was a very nice thing to do. 404 00:19:49,680 --> 00:19:52,679 Speaker 1: Yeah, that preserves the animal in some way. Do you 405 00:19:52,680 --> 00:19:53,720 Speaker 1: think goats live very long? 406 00:19:53,960 --> 00:19:56,800 Speaker 2: I'm not sure how long they live, but I'm sure 407 00:19:57,000 --> 00:20:00,440 Speaker 2: that goats in sanctuaries like other animals are treated very well. 408 00:20:01,040 --> 00:20:04,840 Speaker 2: I know, I know, this story's so stupid. I mean really, 409 00:20:05,240 --> 00:20:07,399 Speaker 2: I mean, there's so many other things going on in 410 00:20:07,440 --> 00:20:09,920 Speaker 2: the world. You can't let this little girl keeper pet 411 00:20:10,040 --> 00:20:11,879 Speaker 2: goat or have it. At as saying, sure, you have 412 00:20:11,960 --> 00:20:14,440 Speaker 2: to sue and then you've got to murder it. I mean, 413 00:20:14,800 --> 00:20:17,480 Speaker 2: it's I can't even believe it. 414 00:20:18,800 --> 00:20:21,760 Speaker 1: Their take is that this was a contract and a responsibility, 415 00:20:22,160 --> 00:20:24,359 Speaker 1: and the idea of the program is, you know, you 416 00:20:24,480 --> 00:20:26,359 Speaker 1: raise the animal, when it's time to take it to auction, 417 00:20:26,440 --> 00:20:28,840 Speaker 1: you fulfill your obligations. Okay, first of you can't do that, 418 00:20:29,000 --> 00:20:30,760 Speaker 1: so it is a contract problem. 419 00:20:31,000 --> 00:20:35,480 Speaker 2: Rules get broken, right, Contracts get broken all the time. 420 00:20:35,800 --> 00:20:38,720 Speaker 2: And this is a baby. I mean, I'm not talking 421 00:20:38,720 --> 00:20:41,320 Speaker 2: about the young girl who is a child, but. 422 00:20:41,240 --> 00:20:44,080 Speaker 1: The goat is seven months. Yeah, I don't know what 423 00:20:44,280 --> 00:20:49,679 Speaker 1: might go I don't understand why Rob BoNT dis counter sewing. 424 00:20:50,800 --> 00:20:53,639 Speaker 1: The goat was sold to a representative of state Senator 425 00:20:53,680 --> 00:20:56,399 Speaker 1: Brian Dolly, who ran for governor. Remember that, yes, do 426 00:20:56,520 --> 00:21:00,000 Speaker 1: some for nine hundred and two dollars that's how much 427 00:21:00,119 --> 00:21:02,840 Speaker 1: the goat went for. Sixty three dollars and fourteen cents 428 00:21:02,840 --> 00:21:05,560 Speaker 1: went to the fair and eight hundred and thirty eight 429 00:21:05,560 --> 00:21:07,479 Speaker 1: dollars in eighty six cents was meant to go to 430 00:21:07,560 --> 00:21:11,800 Speaker 1: Cedar's owner. The CEO of the fair called and threatened 431 00:21:11,800 --> 00:21:14,359 Speaker 1: the family with a grand theft charge of the goat 432 00:21:14,400 --> 00:21:15,080 Speaker 1: was not returned. 433 00:21:15,200 --> 00:21:18,359 Speaker 2: I hope people never go to that fair again. I 434 00:21:18,400 --> 00:21:20,800 Speaker 2: hope that fair goes out of business. 435 00:21:21,200 --> 00:21:23,399 Speaker 1: And the point you're making is a good one, because 436 00:21:23,400 --> 00:21:26,200 Speaker 1: it's about pr you know. I realize you want to 437 00:21:26,240 --> 00:21:28,760 Speaker 1: stand by principle and hold this girl to the contract, 438 00:21:29,119 --> 00:21:32,320 Speaker 1: teach her a lesson about, you know, responsibility. But the 439 00:21:32,359 --> 00:21:33,679 Speaker 1: pr out of this looks awful. 440 00:21:33,760 --> 00:21:35,600 Speaker 2: It does. And you know what, I think the fair 441 00:21:35,640 --> 00:21:37,760 Speaker 2: and the fair owner would have looked so much better 442 00:21:37,760 --> 00:21:40,280 Speaker 2: if he said, look, you know what, this is our rule. 443 00:21:40,320 --> 00:21:42,240 Speaker 2: But in this case, we're talking about a young girl 444 00:21:42,280 --> 00:21:44,680 Speaker 2: who really, I don't think understood what was going to 445 00:21:44,760 --> 00:21:47,960 Speaker 2: happen to the goat once it was out of her hands. 446 00:21:48,240 --> 00:21:50,919 Speaker 2: And so let this be a learning experience for people 447 00:21:50,960 --> 00:21:54,720 Speaker 2: when you do get involved in this. Right when you 448 00:21:55,119 --> 00:21:59,040 Speaker 2: send off your animals to the fair and we're gonna 449 00:21:59,040 --> 00:22:01,480 Speaker 2: we're gonna give this girl a pass. To me, that 450 00:22:01,560 --> 00:22:02,600 Speaker 2: makes perfect sense. 451 00:22:04,320 --> 00:22:06,919 Speaker 1: I guess their response might be, well, what happens. If 452 00:22:06,960 --> 00:22:10,000 Speaker 1: this happens over and over again, then the program crumbles 453 00:22:10,040 --> 00:22:12,320 Speaker 1: because all the kids will want to keep the animals 454 00:22:12,359 --> 00:22:13,960 Speaker 1: and we will no longer have the fair and the 455 00:22:13,960 --> 00:22:16,480 Speaker 1: auction and the which is fine with you, it is 456 00:22:16,520 --> 00:22:17,080 Speaker 1: fine with me. 457 00:22:17,119 --> 00:22:20,120 Speaker 2: And you know what, slaughter Come on, parents, I mean, 458 00:22:20,200 --> 00:22:22,960 Speaker 2: are you telling your kids? Are you did the mom 459 00:22:23,000 --> 00:22:25,000 Speaker 2: and dad say to this little girl, now you know 460 00:22:26,119 --> 00:22:29,160 Speaker 2: what's gonna happen to the goat? Okay? And I think 461 00:22:29,240 --> 00:22:32,080 Speaker 2: if you do that, I don't think kids are gonna 462 00:22:32,080 --> 00:22:36,160 Speaker 2: want They're not gonna want their animals to go to fairs. No, 463 00:22:36,720 --> 00:22:40,960 Speaker 2: they're not gonna And if they do, well, then you know, 464 00:22:41,040 --> 00:22:42,360 Speaker 2: then that's what happens. 465 00:22:42,440 --> 00:22:42,600 Speaker 3: You know. 466 00:22:42,800 --> 00:22:44,439 Speaker 1: It kind of shows you to a shift in the 467 00:22:44,480 --> 00:22:47,159 Speaker 1: people animal dynamic. I mean, the four Ah has been 468 00:22:47,160 --> 00:22:50,240 Speaker 1: around forever, and I imagine future farmers too, and probably 469 00:22:50,240 --> 00:22:52,440 Speaker 1: there weren't too many stories like this twenty or thirty 470 00:22:52,480 --> 00:22:56,560 Speaker 1: years ago. But now that people are bonding and being 471 00:22:56,600 --> 00:23:00,240 Speaker 1: more forthright about addible rights, and then you have my 472 00:23:00,359 --> 00:23:02,760 Speaker 1: joke has always have all these cartoon movies, which makes 473 00:23:02,760 --> 00:23:05,439 Speaker 1: the animals seem like people. So people are now really 474 00:23:05,560 --> 00:23:09,000 Speaker 1: just taking a different approach and I'm not going to say. Yeah, 475 00:23:09,000 --> 00:23:11,840 Speaker 1: there's a lot more vegetarians and vegans. They always like 476 00:23:11,880 --> 00:23:14,040 Speaker 1: this out. It's a growing number. There's more than there 477 00:23:14,080 --> 00:23:15,560 Speaker 1: was twenty or thirty years ago, but it's not a 478 00:23:15,560 --> 00:23:18,160 Speaker 1: significant part of the population. But you can just see 479 00:23:18,359 --> 00:23:19,399 Speaker 1: the changing attitudes. 480 00:23:19,560 --> 00:23:19,720 Speaker 3: Now. 481 00:23:19,760 --> 00:23:23,159 Speaker 1: The mother was going to reimburse. She offered to reimburse 482 00:23:23,600 --> 00:23:26,560 Speaker 1: the fare and the auction for any losses, but that 483 00:23:26,640 --> 00:23:28,440 Speaker 1: was turned down. So we sent a couple of cops 484 00:23:28,440 --> 00:23:29,360 Speaker 1: down there to grab the goat. 485 00:23:29,560 --> 00:23:32,680 Speaker 2: It just seems dead, mean, mean, mean all the way. 486 00:23:33,440 --> 00:23:35,920 Speaker 1: Mean. Yeah, no, I agree with you. 487 00:23:35,920 --> 00:23:39,280 Speaker 7: You're listening to John and Ken on demand from KFI 488 00:23:39,480 --> 00:23:40,440 Speaker 7: AM six forty. 489 00:23:40,840 --> 00:23:42,680 Speaker 1: A lot to come in the two o'clock hour. Of 490 00:23:42,720 --> 00:23:45,040 Speaker 1: course you'll get another chance to win money around two twenty. 491 00:23:45,480 --> 00:23:47,280 Speaker 1: Be listening for a keyword. We're going to be talking 492 00:23:47,280 --> 00:23:49,800 Speaker 1: to Orange County Supervisor Don Wagner after the news at 493 00:23:49,800 --> 00:23:52,080 Speaker 1: two o'clock. It's a big story in Orange County. You 494 00:23:52,119 --> 00:23:56,520 Speaker 1: may have heard early Tuesday morning a blimp hangar. Yeah, 495 00:23:56,600 --> 00:23:58,479 Speaker 1: a hangar. Not a hanger did you put in your closet, 496 00:23:58,480 --> 00:24:01,119 Speaker 1: but a hanger when they put planes and such. I 497 00:24:01,240 --> 00:24:04,640 Speaker 1: caught fire. This is at Valencia Avenue and Armstrong Road 498 00:24:04,720 --> 00:24:08,600 Speaker 1: in Tustin, and apparently because of the whole difficulty dealing 499 00:24:08,680 --> 00:24:11,159 Speaker 1: with it, they just let it burn out. Well, of 500 00:24:11,240 --> 00:24:13,240 Speaker 1: course the whole thing burnt down, but it looks like 501 00:24:13,280 --> 00:24:15,199 Speaker 1: there's a lot of debris and ash and some of 502 00:24:15,240 --> 00:24:19,080 Speaker 1: it could be dangerous, including the possibility of asbestos. Because 503 00:24:19,119 --> 00:24:22,479 Speaker 1: this thing was built in nineteen forty two, so it 504 00:24:22,480 --> 00:24:25,920 Speaker 1: didn't really matter about construction standards and ingredients so much 505 00:24:25,960 --> 00:24:28,640 Speaker 1: back then. So we're going to talk to a state 506 00:24:28,640 --> 00:24:32,680 Speaker 1: of emergency situation for Tuchtin and the county, and we'll 507 00:24:32,680 --> 00:24:37,440 Speaker 1: be talking after two o'clock to Orange County Supervisor Don Wagner. 508 00:24:38,240 --> 00:24:41,320 Speaker 1: Now we turn to the world of health, and you 509 00:24:41,359 --> 00:24:46,000 Speaker 1: know of some kind in their life, whether it's just 510 00:24:46,160 --> 00:24:49,399 Speaker 1: following a football or a baseball team, or you know, 511 00:24:49,720 --> 00:24:54,000 Speaker 1: watching streaming shows, reading books. There are hobbies some people 512 00:24:54,080 --> 00:24:56,680 Speaker 1: get really caught up in them. Maybe it's stamp people 513 00:24:56,680 --> 00:25:00,919 Speaker 1: still collect stamps. Anyway, we're going to talk about a 514 00:25:00,960 --> 00:25:05,480 Speaker 1: man that's apparently wealthy. His name is Brian Johnson. He's 515 00:25:05,520 --> 00:25:09,680 Speaker 1: forty six years old. He's apparently made money in technology. 516 00:25:10,040 --> 00:25:13,040 Speaker 1: They describe him here as a biohacker and he's described 517 00:25:13,080 --> 00:25:19,919 Speaker 1: as a biohacker. Because Brian Johnson is obsessed with defeating 518 00:25:20,520 --> 00:25:25,639 Speaker 1: father time. He has devoted the last several years to 519 00:25:25,840 --> 00:25:31,639 Speaker 1: undergoing all sorts of procedures, which include and this is 520 00:25:32,000 --> 00:25:36,880 Speaker 1: really kind of creepy, there's a report that apparently he 521 00:25:37,280 --> 00:25:44,080 Speaker 1: used his teenage son for a plasma swap, his seventeen 522 00:25:44,160 --> 00:25:48,160 Speaker 1: year old son, Talmach. He used his son and described 523 00:25:48,200 --> 00:25:52,000 Speaker 1: here as his blood boy, to swap plasma with his son. 524 00:25:52,200 --> 00:25:54,479 Speaker 1: So you gave your son your your forty six year 525 00:25:54,520 --> 00:25:59,320 Speaker 1: old plasma. That was nice of you. He takes at 526 00:25:59,400 --> 00:26:03,199 Speaker 1: least one one hundred and eleven supplements a day to 527 00:26:03,280 --> 00:26:06,520 Speaker 1: try to affect his brain, liver, kidney's teeth, skin, hair, 528 00:26:07,600 --> 00:26:10,159 Speaker 1: and the two we're going to talk about that his 529 00:26:10,240 --> 00:26:13,879 Speaker 1: penis and his rectum. He wants everything to be like 530 00:26:13,920 --> 00:26:18,680 Speaker 1: he's still an eighteen year old. So the reason he's 531 00:26:18,680 --> 00:26:21,359 Speaker 1: in the news today is that he is working on 532 00:26:21,359 --> 00:26:24,880 Speaker 1: one particular part of his body, and that is his penis. 533 00:26:25,000 --> 00:26:28,320 Speaker 2: He's eighty you said, forty six, oh forty six, okay. 534 00:26:28,119 --> 00:26:31,199 Speaker 1: Well, that he wants to feel like he's eighteen, nineteen 535 00:26:31,280 --> 00:26:33,720 Speaker 1: or twenty again. So that's why he's been doing this 536 00:26:34,640 --> 00:26:41,080 Speaker 1: and with his penis, he is undergoing shock therapy. Jeez yeap, 537 00:26:41,280 --> 00:26:43,479 Speaker 1: so far he spent over two million dollars in all 538 00:26:43,520 --> 00:26:46,720 Speaker 1: these treatments. That this is really somebody who has nothing 539 00:26:46,720 --> 00:26:46,959 Speaker 1: to do. 540 00:26:47,160 --> 00:26:49,679 Speaker 2: Is there something wrong with his penis or he just 541 00:26:49,760 --> 00:26:51,080 Speaker 2: wants it more. 542 00:26:51,040 --> 00:26:54,280 Speaker 1: He wants it to perform. It's only forty six. He 543 00:26:54,320 --> 00:26:56,359 Speaker 1: says that he feels like it's his penis is already 544 00:26:56,400 --> 00:26:59,520 Speaker 1: fifteen years younger, so it's like he's a thirty year 545 00:26:59,520 --> 00:27:02,520 Speaker 1: old again in terms of his sexual performance. That's what 546 00:27:02,560 --> 00:27:07,200 Speaker 1: he's saying. All right, but all right, here's the technology. 547 00:27:07,560 --> 00:27:10,399 Speaker 1: They take a wand, you sit in a chair, and 548 00:27:10,440 --> 00:27:13,120 Speaker 1: the technician uses the wand and shocks your penis through 549 00:27:13,119 --> 00:27:18,080 Speaker 1: acoustic technology. Wow, but you really, I mean, how crazy 550 00:27:18,080 --> 00:27:21,240 Speaker 1: do you have to be to one? I guess he 551 00:27:21,280 --> 00:27:23,040 Speaker 1: still is a pretty active sex life, so he's really 552 00:27:23,040 --> 00:27:24,960 Speaker 1: concerned about his manhood. 553 00:27:25,119 --> 00:27:27,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, but again he's only forty six, ken, I'm sure 554 00:27:27,600 --> 00:27:28,800 Speaker 2: it's still working fine. 555 00:27:29,520 --> 00:27:30,440 Speaker 1: Do you see eighty? 556 00:27:30,520 --> 00:27:32,280 Speaker 2: I mean that's why I asked you he's the eighty 557 00:27:32,480 --> 00:27:34,199 Speaker 2: because at eighty, I can understand. 558 00:27:34,880 --> 00:27:36,200 Speaker 1: Have you read any of the research? 559 00:27:36,760 --> 00:27:36,920 Speaker 3: No? 560 00:27:37,200 --> 00:27:39,520 Speaker 1: I have men pretty much peak at eighteen or nineteen. 561 00:27:39,720 --> 00:27:41,640 Speaker 1: I know you find that hard to believe. And by 562 00:27:41,680 --> 00:27:46,080 Speaker 1: thirty two, nope, you start to go down hit us. 563 00:27:46,119 --> 00:27:49,960 Speaker 1: Some men go downhill faster than others, but at forty 564 00:27:50,000 --> 00:27:53,720 Speaker 1: six you definitely notice some either loss of function or 565 00:27:53,720 --> 00:27:57,560 Speaker 1: feeling or something like that. So he said, did you 566 00:27:57,600 --> 00:27:59,879 Speaker 1: can use this acoustic technology and shock therapy for a 567 00:27:59,920 --> 00:28:02,560 Speaker 1: lot of different things, including Debora. Mark is familiar with 568 00:28:02,560 --> 00:28:05,160 Speaker 1: the term ed. Yes, but he wants to be clear 569 00:28:05,160 --> 00:28:09,160 Speaker 1: he doesn't have AD but he says the shocks they're 570 00:28:09,200 --> 00:28:12,879 Speaker 1: not electrical, but they work simply to workouts by creating 571 00:28:12,960 --> 00:28:17,639 Speaker 1: micro injuries that the muscle then rebuilds. Now, listen to 572 00:28:17,680 --> 00:28:21,720 Speaker 1: this part. He says. The treatment is painful. The pain 573 00:28:22,040 --> 00:28:25,880 Speaker 1: on a scale of ten is a seven, but at 574 00:28:25,880 --> 00:28:28,239 Speaker 1: the tip, at the tip of the you know what, 575 00:28:28,280 --> 00:28:33,040 Speaker 1: it's a nine. My god, I and I guess he 576 00:28:33,119 --> 00:28:35,240 Speaker 1: likes the media attention because I've seen stories on this 577 00:28:35,280 --> 00:28:38,360 Speaker 1: guy before. He said, I've been shocked by the results. 578 00:28:38,360 --> 00:28:42,320 Speaker 1: A cute pun. I'm now two months in. My subjective 579 00:28:42,360 --> 00:28:51,320 Speaker 1: experience is my penis has gotten fifteen years younger. He uh. 580 00:28:52,000 --> 00:28:55,719 Speaker 1: He apparently straps a small sensor device to his member 581 00:28:56,400 --> 00:29:00,840 Speaker 1: to measure the duration and strength of his for three 582 00:29:00,840 --> 00:29:02,320 Speaker 1: to five nights in a row every months or so 583 00:29:02,440 --> 00:29:04,440 Speaker 1: to see how this is working. So that's why he's 584 00:29:04,480 --> 00:29:07,239 Speaker 1: come back with his data that he believes he's as 585 00:29:07,240 --> 00:29:10,480 Speaker 1: good as he was fifteen years ago. Down there, I mean, 586 00:29:10,560 --> 00:29:10,920 Speaker 1: what is. 587 00:29:10,880 --> 00:29:13,560 Speaker 2: He looking for eighteen year olds? I mean, you know, women, 588 00:29:13,720 --> 00:29:17,160 Speaker 2: we all get older too, and I'm assuming that as 589 00:29:17,200 --> 00:29:20,040 Speaker 2: we age the sex drive goes down too. I mean, 590 00:29:20,080 --> 00:29:21,760 Speaker 2: he's just gonna wow. 591 00:29:22,160 --> 00:29:24,800 Speaker 1: Oh, he has done everything. He's got an incredibly strict 592 00:29:24,880 --> 00:29:28,920 Speaker 1: diet regimen, exercise regimen. Clearly he has so much money. 593 00:29:28,960 --> 00:29:31,080 Speaker 1: He doesn't really have to work or do anything that 594 00:29:31,120 --> 00:29:33,520 Speaker 1: puts you behind the desk or on a phone all day. 595 00:29:33,960 --> 00:29:36,520 Speaker 1: He probably spends most of his day on this stuff. 596 00:29:36,520 --> 00:29:38,200 Speaker 1: But he has enough money to do this. Like I said, 597 00:29:38,800 --> 00:29:42,120 Speaker 1: you can pursue your pursuits if you have enough money 598 00:29:42,120 --> 00:29:43,840 Speaker 1: in time and you're obsessed enough. 599 00:29:43,920 --> 00:29:46,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, but that's a turn off. This guy's too much. 600 00:29:46,960 --> 00:29:47,600 Speaker 2: I mean sad. 601 00:29:47,640 --> 00:29:49,880 Speaker 1: Would probably be books and movies about this guy because 602 00:29:49,880 --> 00:29:52,200 Speaker 1: people will want to know, well, if it worked, what 603 00:29:52,240 --> 00:29:54,400 Speaker 1: can I do? Although I don't think most men would 604 00:29:54,440 --> 00:29:57,200 Speaker 1: undergo shop therapy to their penis. 605 00:29:56,920 --> 00:29:59,960 Speaker 2: And the tip of a pain level at a nine 606 00:30:00,120 --> 00:30:00,800 Speaker 2: nine out of ten. 607 00:30:00,960 --> 00:30:03,120 Speaker 1: Can you imagine, Hey, honey, and I take that seriously 608 00:30:03,120 --> 00:30:04,800 Speaker 1: because I use that all the time, and I've had 609 00:30:04,840 --> 00:30:06,920 Speaker 1: doctors always say to me if I say that I'm hurting, 610 00:30:07,400 --> 00:30:08,880 Speaker 1: will give me give me it on the scale, And 611 00:30:08,880 --> 00:30:10,880 Speaker 1: I give them the number six, seven, eight, nine, and 612 00:30:11,040 --> 00:30:13,480 Speaker 1: nine to me is very serious. That's like a major earthquake. 613 00:30:13,600 --> 00:30:16,280 Speaker 2: Oh god, yeah. Can you imagine though, this guy, his 614 00:30:16,920 --> 00:30:20,200 Speaker 2: girlfriend or wife or partner whatever, is calling him up. 615 00:30:20,240 --> 00:30:20,720 Speaker 2: What are you doing? 616 00:30:20,840 --> 00:30:21,000 Speaker 1: Oh? 617 00:30:21,040 --> 00:30:22,880 Speaker 2: You know, I'm working out my penis so that I. 618 00:30:22,920 --> 00:30:28,440 Speaker 1: Keep shocking it. I'm shocking right, performance will be better. Right, 619 00:30:28,960 --> 00:30:31,280 Speaker 1: You'll notice the difference. It'll be like I'm twenty five again. 620 00:30:31,480 --> 00:30:33,320 Speaker 1: I guess if he keeps going with this, he'll eventually 621 00:30:33,400 --> 00:30:35,800 Speaker 1: rolled himself back to his twenties. He's already says he's 622 00:30:35,800 --> 00:30:39,480 Speaker 1: fifteen years down. Wow. I love these stories though, because 623 00:30:39,560 --> 00:30:41,520 Speaker 1: there's also I don't know, if you read these books, 624 00:30:41,760 --> 00:30:44,200 Speaker 1: there are some pretty wealthy tech moguls. It's not just 625 00:30:44,240 --> 00:30:46,880 Speaker 1: this guy. People much richer than this guy who are 626 00:30:46,960 --> 00:30:49,840 Speaker 1: trying to get eternal life. They're spending a lot of 627 00:30:49,880 --> 00:30:52,880 Speaker 1: money in the research for this, and I don't know 628 00:30:52,880 --> 00:30:56,640 Speaker 1: if there's been any major breakthrough yet. But again, if 629 00:30:56,640 --> 00:30:58,760 Speaker 1: you're worth billions, what are you gonna do with the money. Well, 630 00:30:58,800 --> 00:31:00,800 Speaker 1: these people think I'd like to spend I'd like to 631 00:31:00,800 --> 00:31:03,560 Speaker 1: be around longer to spend this money. So I'm gonna 632 00:31:03,600 --> 00:31:05,080 Speaker 1: work on ways that maybe I can live to be 633 00:31:05,080 --> 00:31:05,960 Speaker 1: one hundred and fifty. 634 00:31:06,680 --> 00:31:09,920 Speaker 2: So eat vegan and drink a lot of water and 635 00:31:10,400 --> 00:31:13,960 Speaker 2: don't do drugs. I don't know, maybe try those things first. 636 00:31:13,840 --> 00:31:16,320 Speaker 1: Right, but this more extreme stuff like what this guy's 637 00:31:16,360 --> 00:31:18,280 Speaker 1: doing and all sorts of other therapeutes who. 638 00:31:18,160 --> 00:31:20,720 Speaker 2: Wants to live forever anyway. I mean, look, I want 639 00:31:20,720 --> 00:31:23,160 Speaker 2: to look young for as long as I can. I 640 00:31:23,240 --> 00:31:26,560 Speaker 2: admit that, But I'm not taking one hundred and eleven supplements. 641 00:31:26,640 --> 00:31:28,520 Speaker 2: I'm not going to do any any crazy. 642 00:31:28,720 --> 00:31:31,160 Speaker 1: Imagine you with a eighty and that green coat of yours. 643 00:31:31,280 --> 00:31:35,080 Speaker 1: People would be like, wow, look at hers, she looks twenty. 644 00:31:35,960 --> 00:31:37,560 Speaker 1: All right, when we come back, I'll be talking to 645 00:31:37,560 --> 00:31:40,600 Speaker 1: Orange County Supervisor Don Wagner. It's pretty such a serious 646 00:31:40,640 --> 00:31:44,920 Speaker 1: situation in Orange County, particularly surrounding Tustin, where they had 647 00:31:44,960 --> 00:31:48,440 Speaker 1: this massive blimp hangar fire the other morning that burnt 648 00:31:48,440 --> 00:31:51,600 Speaker 1: the whole structure down. Bud has put some nasty debrion 649 00:31:51,640 --> 00:31:54,560 Speaker 1: ash in the air. 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