1 00:00:00,600 --> 00:00:03,520 Speaker 1: Welcome to the Tutor Dixon Podcast. I am here today 2 00:00:03,560 --> 00:00:06,960 Speaker 1: with Sarah Bradwater and Kyle Olsen, and we want to 3 00:00:07,000 --> 00:00:09,880 Speaker 1: talk all things Kamal Harris, but I think we want 4 00:00:09,920 --> 00:00:13,520 Speaker 1: to mostly start with the fact that she has lived 5 00:00:14,200 --> 00:00:16,920 Speaker 1: She's lived one life, her entire life, and now suddenly 6 00:00:16,960 --> 00:00:20,000 Speaker 1: she's a totally changed person now that she's running for president. 7 00:00:20,280 --> 00:00:23,080 Speaker 1: And I think we talked to Tim Merton. He was saying, 8 00:00:23,079 --> 00:00:25,799 Speaker 1: this is just pure lies because people have called it 9 00:00:25,840 --> 00:00:29,360 Speaker 1: flip flops, and it's pure lies because she was really 10 00:00:29,360 --> 00:00:31,920 Speaker 1: one of the architects of the Green New Deal, and 11 00:00:31,960 --> 00:00:34,920 Speaker 1: now she's coming out and saying she's not for EV mandates. 12 00:00:34,960 --> 00:00:37,120 Speaker 1: And to be honest, I mean, we have to really 13 00:00:37,560 --> 00:00:40,920 Speaker 1: say what EV mandates are because they've turned our lives 14 00:00:40,960 --> 00:00:45,040 Speaker 1: upside down. I mean, they're talking about requiring our automotive 15 00:00:45,080 --> 00:00:48,640 Speaker 1: industry to sell a certain percentage. I think it was 16 00:00:48,800 --> 00:00:51,760 Speaker 1: fifty six percent of their cars by twenty thirty five 17 00:00:51,880 --> 00:00:54,440 Speaker 1: would have to be electric vehicles. 18 00:00:54,480 --> 00:00:55,279 Speaker 2: Now Ford is. 19 00:00:55,240 --> 00:00:58,800 Speaker 1: Like, yeah, we're delaying the successor to the Ford Lightning 20 00:00:59,160 --> 00:01:02,120 Speaker 1: another year or two years, will be twenty twenty seven. 21 00:01:02,240 --> 00:01:06,600 Speaker 1: Now they've just scrapped the idea of having an electric suv. 22 00:01:07,040 --> 00:01:10,720 Speaker 1: This isn't working? Is it just that it's not working 23 00:01:10,920 --> 00:01:13,760 Speaker 1: and she's decided she's gonna back off of it for 24 00:01:13,840 --> 00:01:16,000 Speaker 1: the moment. I mean, Kyle, what do you think about this? Well? 25 00:01:16,040 --> 00:01:19,320 Speaker 3: I think one it's not working, and two consumers don't 26 00:01:19,360 --> 00:01:23,160 Speaker 3: want it. If you, as a consumer want to buy 27 00:01:23,200 --> 00:01:28,119 Speaker 3: an EV because that fits your lifestyle or your environment 28 00:01:28,240 --> 00:01:30,679 Speaker 3: or whatever it is, you have the ability to do that. 29 00:01:31,480 --> 00:01:36,400 Speaker 3: The rub is that the federal government and the California 30 00:01:36,440 --> 00:01:41,600 Speaker 3: state government are mandating certain things that manufactures, certain targets, 31 00:01:41,640 --> 00:01:45,959 Speaker 3: as you mentioned, certain targets that manufacturers have to meet, 32 00:01:46,720 --> 00:01:51,160 Speaker 3: and that is the problem. And so she now is 33 00:01:51,240 --> 00:01:54,520 Speaker 3: running out and saying she doesn't support EV mandates. I 34 00:01:54,560 --> 00:02:01,400 Speaker 3: don't think anybody should believe that. When the Biden administration 35 00:02:01,520 --> 00:02:04,960 Speaker 3: has been pushing EV mandates, she has not said a word, 36 00:02:05,040 --> 00:02:08,760 Speaker 3: she has not deviated, And if she really truly did 37 00:02:08,760 --> 00:02:11,800 Speaker 3: not support them, there would have been some opportunity for 38 00:02:11,840 --> 00:02:15,120 Speaker 3: her either to undermine them and not have them actually 39 00:02:15,120 --> 00:02:18,160 Speaker 3: come to fruition, or speak against them when she had 40 00:02:18,160 --> 00:02:22,440 Speaker 3: the opportunity. In addition to that, the way that this 41 00:02:22,560 --> 00:02:26,040 Speaker 3: works is that California is such a major economy. Both 42 00:02:26,120 --> 00:02:31,360 Speaker 3: nationally and globally that what happens in California sets the 43 00:02:31,400 --> 00:02:35,239 Speaker 3: tone for the rest of the country. So, California has 44 00:02:35,280 --> 00:02:40,120 Speaker 3: what's called the California Air Resources Board, and they mandated 45 00:02:40,680 --> 00:02:45,760 Speaker 3: tailpipe emissions or lack thereof. And when California does that, 46 00:02:46,960 --> 00:02:51,160 Speaker 3: because their market is so huge, manufacturers have to comply. 47 00:02:51,440 --> 00:02:54,440 Speaker 3: And we see this with vehicles, we see this with 48 00:02:54,840 --> 00:02:59,800 Speaker 3: school textbooks, et cetera. And so when she was Attorney General, 49 00:03:01,000 --> 00:03:04,600 Speaker 3: she was she was defending what the California Air Resources 50 00:03:04,600 --> 00:03:08,440 Speaker 3: Board was doing. In fact, the Midwesterner will have a 51 00:03:08,480 --> 00:03:12,880 Speaker 3: story today about her role in defending the California Air 52 00:03:12,919 --> 00:03:15,680 Speaker 3: Resources Board. But just one example is that she got 53 00:03:15,680 --> 00:03:20,360 Speaker 3: a one billion dollar settlement from Volkswagen because of how 54 00:03:20,400 --> 00:03:24,800 Speaker 3: they were supposedly undermining what the California Air Resources Board 55 00:03:24,960 --> 00:03:29,200 Speaker 3: was mandating when it came to admit emissions. And so 56 00:03:30,200 --> 00:03:33,399 Speaker 3: this idea that now she suddenly is opposed to ev 57 00:03:33,560 --> 00:03:36,120 Speaker 3: mandates is just simply not believable. 58 00:03:36,200 --> 00:03:38,520 Speaker 4: Well, her own spokesperson came out, I think it was 59 00:03:38,600 --> 00:03:41,320 Speaker 4: yesterday or the day before, and said, someone asked them, well, 60 00:03:41,320 --> 00:03:43,360 Speaker 4: what is she what's her view on policy? Well, she 61 00:03:43,440 --> 00:03:47,560 Speaker 4: said she still supported the Biden Harris agenda, which is 62 00:03:47,880 --> 00:03:51,320 Speaker 4: to promote EV's and per an EV mandate. So she's 63 00:03:51,360 --> 00:03:52,839 Speaker 4: just talking out of both sides of her mouth, which 64 00:03:52,840 --> 00:03:55,040 Speaker 4: is why I think it's important. What Tim Merton the 65 00:03:55,040 --> 00:03:57,360 Speaker 4: Trump team is saying is we can't call these flip 66 00:03:57,360 --> 00:03:59,800 Speaker 4: flops anymore. They're not I mean, that's that's a very 67 00:04:00,040 --> 00:04:02,280 Speaker 4: nice way to put this. They're just bold faced lying 68 00:04:02,320 --> 00:04:03,240 Speaker 4: at this point. 69 00:04:03,400 --> 00:04:05,640 Speaker 1: And we would not be given the benefit of Oh, 70 00:04:05,800 --> 00:04:08,440 Speaker 1: Trump flip flopped on this, so it would be Trump 71 00:04:08,480 --> 00:04:10,760 Speaker 1: he was lying, He's gonna I mean, look at what 72 00:04:10,760 --> 00:04:12,560 Speaker 1: they've done with the pro life message. 73 00:04:12,560 --> 00:04:13,200 Speaker 2: He's lying. 74 00:04:13,320 --> 00:04:16,640 Speaker 1: He's lying, and every politician has come out and accused 75 00:04:16,720 --> 00:04:17,719 Speaker 1: him of being a liar. 76 00:04:18,040 --> 00:04:19,480 Speaker 2: But to me, this is a. 77 00:04:19,480 --> 00:04:24,719 Speaker 1: Very serious issue because it was never really fleshed out 78 00:04:24,760 --> 00:04:26,919 Speaker 1: as safe or the best option. 79 00:04:27,240 --> 00:04:28,720 Speaker 2: It was just decided that. 80 00:04:29,000 --> 00:04:31,520 Speaker 1: I think there's a lot of money in the climate 81 00:04:31,600 --> 00:04:34,919 Speaker 1: lobby that has said this is a great way to 82 00:04:35,200 --> 00:04:38,800 Speaker 1: keep that money flowing. But the realities of the danger 83 00:04:38,960 --> 00:04:43,680 Speaker 1: of this as you research renewable energy, it is incredibly 84 00:04:43,760 --> 00:04:46,919 Speaker 1: dangerous because it is filled with these forever chemicals. It 85 00:04:46,960 --> 00:04:50,159 Speaker 1: is filled with dangers that are unseen, but they take 86 00:04:50,279 --> 00:04:52,719 Speaker 1: years to develop. And that's the other thing that I think. 87 00:04:52,760 --> 00:04:55,159 Speaker 1: I mean, you think of the Aaron Brockovich story, right, 88 00:04:55,600 --> 00:04:58,839 Speaker 1: it takes years to realize the community is filled with cancer. 89 00:04:59,120 --> 00:05:01,920 Speaker 1: And that is what we saw in this week with JD. 90 00:05:02,080 --> 00:05:05,760 Speaker 1: Vance coming to Big Rapids and talking to the Nogotian group, 91 00:05:05,839 --> 00:05:09,200 Speaker 1: because they've been saying, look, how does how do these 92 00:05:09,240 --> 00:05:14,840 Speaker 1: companies get a pass when our other manufacturers, and I'll 93 00:05:14,880 --> 00:05:18,200 Speaker 1: just pick on Michigan for example, our other manufacturers have 94 00:05:18,279 --> 00:05:20,080 Speaker 1: said we want to expand we want to grow, we 95 00:05:20,120 --> 00:05:23,040 Speaker 1: need the state to help us grow. And in our 96 00:05:23,120 --> 00:05:26,280 Speaker 1: campaign I never had a single one of them say 97 00:05:26,279 --> 00:05:28,599 Speaker 1: the state has been really helpful. They all said to 98 00:05:28,680 --> 00:05:31,000 Speaker 1: us time and time again, the state said the money is. 99 00:05:30,960 --> 00:05:31,400 Speaker 2: Not for you. 100 00:05:31,520 --> 00:05:34,800 Speaker 1: It will only go to companies outside of the state 101 00:05:34,839 --> 00:05:37,240 Speaker 1: of Michigan. And so it went so far outside of 102 00:05:37,240 --> 00:05:40,240 Speaker 1: the state of Michigan and went to China, where China 103 00:05:40,320 --> 00:05:44,240 Speaker 1: doesn't care about pollution, you know, like Trump kept saying, 104 00:05:45,000 --> 00:05:47,640 Speaker 1: the Paris Climate Accord doesn't work because we're the only 105 00:05:47,640 --> 00:05:51,720 Speaker 1: ones following it. Well, we're all living in the same world. 106 00:05:51,839 --> 00:05:55,880 Speaker 1: Why would we be held to this global requirement and 107 00:05:55,960 --> 00:05:58,280 Speaker 1: then bring China into the United. 108 00:05:57,920 --> 00:05:59,760 Speaker 2: States to mess that all up. 109 00:06:00,080 --> 00:06:03,040 Speaker 1: But on the local level, we know a little bit 110 00:06:03,080 --> 00:06:05,520 Speaker 1: about forever chemicals in this state. And the reason we 111 00:06:05,600 --> 00:06:08,719 Speaker 1: know about forever chemicals is that they are used in 112 00:06:08,800 --> 00:06:12,320 Speaker 1: things like metal plating and metal coating, which we do 113 00:06:12,360 --> 00:06:16,360 Speaker 1: here in Michigan because we're big car manufacturers. Waterproofing we 114 00:06:16,400 --> 00:06:19,360 Speaker 1: make a lot of. We also make a lot of 115 00:06:19,360 --> 00:06:23,320 Speaker 1: office furniture, which is also metal coating, and in any 116 00:06:23,360 --> 00:06:27,640 Speaker 1: type of waterproofing or teflon, any of that. These these 117 00:06:27,720 --> 00:06:32,000 Speaker 1: processes have had to be changed completely because of the 118 00:06:32,040 --> 00:06:36,880 Speaker 1: forever forever chemicals that have leached into the state of Michigan. Now, 119 00:06:37,080 --> 00:06:40,919 Speaker 1: Goshen scares me to death because we have this factory 120 00:06:40,960 --> 00:06:45,600 Speaker 1: coming here, that's an EV battery factory. Gretchen Whitmer gave 121 00:06:45,640 --> 00:06:48,400 Speaker 1: them our money to come here. We had this rally 122 00:06:48,440 --> 00:06:51,440 Speaker 1: with JD Vance here. This is all connected to the 123 00:06:51,480 --> 00:06:54,560 Speaker 1: EV mandates because this is where I think Harris lies 124 00:06:54,600 --> 00:06:57,240 Speaker 1: to you. She doesn't tell you the true dangers of 125 00:06:57,279 --> 00:07:02,200 Speaker 1: these These batteries are going to require over seven hundred 126 00:07:02,279 --> 00:07:04,400 Speaker 1: thousand gallons of water every day to produce. 127 00:07:05,360 --> 00:07:07,039 Speaker 2: We're pulling that out of Michigan is. 128 00:07:07,000 --> 00:07:10,240 Speaker 1: Our greatest natural resource for the entire country. I think 129 00:07:10,280 --> 00:07:12,880 Speaker 1: we have the most available water for the entire country 130 00:07:13,160 --> 00:07:15,960 Speaker 1: and this is going to be pulled out of the 131 00:07:16,000 --> 00:07:20,120 Speaker 1: state of Michigan. And everybody complained. The environmentalists were all 132 00:07:20,160 --> 00:07:22,880 Speaker 1: over Neslie. And you remember when Nesli was coming here, 133 00:07:22,960 --> 00:07:25,560 Speaker 1: Oliver Nestlie, They're going to take all these gallons of 134 00:07:25,600 --> 00:07:28,480 Speaker 1: water every day. Neslie was in the business of selling water. 135 00:07:29,240 --> 00:07:33,320 Speaker 1: Goshen is in the business of mixing chemicals and using 136 00:07:33,320 --> 00:07:37,400 Speaker 1: that water. So when that water is contaminated every day, 137 00:07:37,800 --> 00:07:42,000 Speaker 1: where does that water go? The realities of renewable energy 138 00:07:42,640 --> 00:07:46,080 Speaker 1: is We worked really fast to get this done. It 139 00:07:46,120 --> 00:07:48,480 Speaker 1: has not been vetted out. We do not know what 140 00:07:48,600 --> 00:07:51,560 Speaker 1: is going into our groundwater. We do not know how 141 00:07:51,560 --> 00:07:54,080 Speaker 1: this will affect communities. And are we going to have 142 00:07:54,160 --> 00:07:57,920 Speaker 1: to find out that an entire community has been poisoned 143 00:07:58,240 --> 00:08:00,680 Speaker 1: because there was a lobbyist out there that wanted a 144 00:08:00,720 --> 00:08:04,040 Speaker 1: lot of money. And I know I sound aggressive about this, 145 00:08:04,640 --> 00:08:09,320 Speaker 1: but once those chemicals are in your county, in your land, 146 00:08:09,520 --> 00:08:13,680 Speaker 1: in your soil, it's not like it easy cleanup, right. 147 00:08:13,920 --> 00:08:18,920 Speaker 3: I remember Nesley specifically, so they so back. This was 148 00:08:19,000 --> 00:08:22,160 Speaker 3: probably twenty five years ago. I worked for a state 149 00:08:22,200 --> 00:08:26,920 Speaker 3: senator in West Michigan who was directly involved in, you know, 150 00:08:26,960 --> 00:08:30,920 Speaker 3: approving this and oversight in all of that. And the 151 00:08:31,040 --> 00:08:35,520 Speaker 3: environmentalists just went crazy because they said, you're going to 152 00:08:35,600 --> 00:08:38,559 Speaker 3: be ice. So if you drink Ice Mountain, you're drinking 153 00:08:38,840 --> 00:08:43,680 Speaker 3: Michigan groundwater. And so they went crazy because they said, 154 00:08:43,800 --> 00:08:46,840 Speaker 3: you're going to be pumping hundreds of thousands of gallons. 155 00:08:46,880 --> 00:08:49,679 Speaker 3: It was about two hundred and fifty thousand, three hundred 156 00:08:49,720 --> 00:08:53,720 Speaker 3: thousand gallons of water a day out of the groundwater, 157 00:08:54,440 --> 00:08:57,000 Speaker 3: bottling it, shipping it out of the state, out of 158 00:08:57,040 --> 00:09:00,320 Speaker 3: the aquifer, out of you know, all of that. And 159 00:09:00,600 --> 00:09:03,600 Speaker 3: the environmentalists were protesting, and they were going to the 160 00:09:03,679 --> 00:09:06,920 Speaker 3: legislature and they just were I mean, this was a 161 00:09:07,040 --> 00:09:09,960 Speaker 3: massive deal. I don't know if that's because it was 162 00:09:10,040 --> 00:09:13,040 Speaker 3: Republicans who were overseeing this. I don't know what the 163 00:09:13,080 --> 00:09:17,000 Speaker 3: motivation was. But here twenty five years later, in the 164 00:09:17,160 --> 00:09:21,080 Speaker 3: very same area. I mean, it's fifteen miles away, you 165 00:09:21,160 --> 00:09:23,880 Speaker 3: have Goshen that and they're saying they want to draw 166 00:09:23,960 --> 00:09:28,720 Speaker 3: seven hundred thousand gallons a day, and it's not clear 167 00:09:28,800 --> 00:09:30,880 Speaker 3: how it's going to be used in the process, if 168 00:09:30,920 --> 00:09:34,000 Speaker 3: it's going to be polluted, if it's for cooling. If 169 00:09:34,000 --> 00:09:34,679 Speaker 3: it's going to be. 170 00:09:34,640 --> 00:09:37,440 Speaker 1: Put back not clear because they had to sign non 171 00:09:37,480 --> 00:09:40,600 Speaker 1: disclosure agreements. We don't know what our taxpayer dollars are. 172 00:09:40,520 --> 00:09:45,520 Speaker 3: Funding, correct, So yes, yes, that's another issue. Legislators, the 173 00:09:45,520 --> 00:09:50,120 Speaker 3: governor's office, people like Alyssa Slockin, who's a congresswoman running 174 00:09:50,120 --> 00:09:53,640 Speaker 3: for the US Senate, they signed non disclosure agreements to 175 00:09:53,760 --> 00:09:57,440 Speaker 3: keep that company's secrets. That's It's as simple as that. 176 00:09:58,080 --> 00:10:01,320 Speaker 3: They signed a piece of paper agreeing to keep the 177 00:10:01,440 --> 00:10:08,040 Speaker 3: Chinese Communist Party linked companies secrets away from taxpayers. And 178 00:10:08,120 --> 00:10:12,120 Speaker 3: so they so when it comes to Goshen in the 179 00:10:14,120 --> 00:10:19,560 Speaker 3: roughly roughly double the amount of groundwater that Nesley pulls, 180 00:10:20,240 --> 00:10:23,960 Speaker 3: that's what they want to pull. The environmentals have been silent. 181 00:10:24,080 --> 00:10:25,640 Speaker 2: How far away did you say Nestli is. 182 00:10:27,320 --> 00:10:29,400 Speaker 3: From Goshen It's about fifteen miles. 183 00:10:29,679 --> 00:10:32,040 Speaker 2: How comfortable are you with that? Think about that? 184 00:10:32,240 --> 00:10:34,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, your own drinking water is being pulled from the 185 00:10:34,679 --> 00:10:38,520 Speaker 1: same source. Where is this water going to end up? 186 00:10:38,640 --> 00:10:42,680 Speaker 1: If we are pulling ice mountain from this area? 187 00:10:44,360 --> 00:10:45,080 Speaker 2: What will they do? 188 00:10:45,160 --> 00:10:46,800 Speaker 1: Why don't we have a rate to know what they'll 189 00:10:46,840 --> 00:10:48,319 Speaker 1: do with the water they contaminate? 190 00:10:48,360 --> 00:10:49,120 Speaker 4: What's so funny though? 191 00:10:49,160 --> 00:10:49,560 Speaker 2: Is you were. 192 00:10:49,720 --> 00:10:51,520 Speaker 4: When you were at the rally, you were asked by 193 00:10:51,559 --> 00:10:52,040 Speaker 4: a reporter. 194 00:10:52,160 --> 00:10:53,040 Speaker 2: She was like shocked. 195 00:10:53,080 --> 00:10:56,079 Speaker 4: She's like, there's actually several folks here that are environmental 196 00:10:56,120 --> 00:10:58,960 Speaker 4: scientists and environmentalists that were at this rally with Jade Vance, 197 00:10:59,000 --> 00:11:01,360 Speaker 4: and I would never expect to see them here, but 198 00:11:01,520 --> 00:11:04,040 Speaker 4: it's they've covered this up so well now that you 199 00:11:04,160 --> 00:11:05,840 Speaker 4: just you don't expect to see them there. But at 200 00:11:05,840 --> 00:11:08,400 Speaker 4: the same time, there's a lot of what I would 201 00:11:08,400 --> 00:11:11,840 Speaker 4: call environmental probably democrats in that community that have all 202 00:11:12,000 --> 00:11:12,959 Speaker 4: spoken out against this. 203 00:11:13,120 --> 00:11:16,160 Speaker 1: Now let's take a quick commercial break. We'll continue next 204 00:11:16,240 --> 00:11:22,400 Speaker 1: on the Tutor Dixon podcast if you're new to the podcast. 205 00:11:22,880 --> 00:11:25,200 Speaker 1: A few months back, we had a woman from the 206 00:11:25,360 --> 00:11:28,920 Speaker 1: Save the Whales group out on the East Coast and 207 00:11:29,120 --> 00:11:32,080 Speaker 1: she was talking about renewable energy and how these big 208 00:11:32,120 --> 00:11:34,360 Speaker 1: wind turbines are going out. And then we had somebody 209 00:11:34,400 --> 00:11:37,920 Speaker 1: from the fishing market out there same saying, all these 210 00:11:37,960 --> 00:11:40,760 Speaker 1: wind turbines are going into the ocean, and they were 211 00:11:40,800 --> 00:11:46,000 Speaker 1: talking about the noise, so they're very loud. They constantly 212 00:11:46,040 --> 00:11:49,000 Speaker 1: were they have to constantly be going because you know, 213 00:11:49,080 --> 00:11:53,120 Speaker 1: they're wind turbines, but they're also constantly drilling the ocean 214 00:11:53,120 --> 00:11:55,520 Speaker 1: floor to put more of these in. So they're planning 215 00:11:55,600 --> 00:11:59,280 Speaker 1: on putting football fields, many football fields of these wind 216 00:11:59,280 --> 00:12:01,800 Speaker 1: turbines in the drill. They drill, they drill. But the 217 00:12:01,880 --> 00:12:05,160 Speaker 1: interesting thing is as you research these things, like I said, 218 00:12:05,679 --> 00:12:10,480 Speaker 1: all of these renewable energy, these new ways of bringing 219 00:12:10,640 --> 00:12:14,520 Speaker 1: energy to the country, they all whether it's solar, whether 220 00:12:14,559 --> 00:12:18,440 Speaker 1: it's electric batteries, whether it's wind turbines, they all use 221 00:12:18,760 --> 00:12:20,760 Speaker 1: forever chemicals and a lot of them. 222 00:12:20,920 --> 00:12:21,800 Speaker 2: And last week we. 223 00:12:21,840 --> 00:12:25,000 Speaker 1: Just heard about one of these propellers from the windmill 224 00:12:25,040 --> 00:12:28,200 Speaker 1: and the ones the wind turbines, they're out in the ocean. 225 00:12:28,559 --> 00:12:32,600 Speaker 1: I think that the propeller is the length of a 226 00:12:32,600 --> 00:12:36,079 Speaker 1: football field, or maybe longer than that. And so one 227 00:12:36,120 --> 00:12:38,680 Speaker 1: of them broke down because over time they break down, 228 00:12:38,720 --> 00:12:40,880 Speaker 1: and there's nobody out there monitoring them because they're in 229 00:12:40,920 --> 00:12:42,160 Speaker 1: the middle of the ocean. 230 00:12:42,559 --> 00:12:43,480 Speaker 2: And so this. 231 00:12:43,600 --> 00:12:48,960 Speaker 1: Football field size shattered propeller starts to wash up on 232 00:12:49,240 --> 00:12:51,680 Speaker 1: the beach and people can't get near it because it's 233 00:12:51,800 --> 00:12:54,440 Speaker 1: covered in these chemicals. It's shards, it's dangerous. They have 234 00:12:54,480 --> 00:12:57,480 Speaker 1: to send out a cleanup team. This is happening in 235 00:12:57,480 --> 00:13:02,240 Speaker 1: our ocean. The lubricants, the coatings, that go on to 236 00:13:02,360 --> 00:13:07,520 Speaker 1: these wind turbines, all forever chemicals, all in our ocean. 237 00:13:07,920 --> 00:13:09,520 Speaker 1: You think it's hard to clean it up on land, 238 00:13:09,720 --> 00:13:12,480 Speaker 1: you get it in the ocean. I mean, this is insane. 239 00:13:12,720 --> 00:13:16,360 Speaker 1: We see all these whales washing up. Of course we're 240 00:13:16,400 --> 00:13:21,840 Speaker 1: becoming environmentalists. We are conservatives. We we conserve the That's 241 00:13:21,880 --> 00:13:24,200 Speaker 1: what you see when you see these hunters. They're out 242 00:13:24,200 --> 00:13:28,040 Speaker 1: there making sure that the environment is sustained. The farmers 243 00:13:28,160 --> 00:13:30,480 Speaker 1: make sure that the environment is sustained that we can 244 00:13:30,520 --> 00:13:34,080 Speaker 1: continue living on it. The manufacturers on the Republican side, 245 00:13:34,440 --> 00:13:37,920 Speaker 1: we have been the ones innovating, working to make manufacturing 246 00:13:37,920 --> 00:13:41,080 Speaker 1: cleaner and cleaner. The people who are pushing these mandates, 247 00:13:41,559 --> 00:13:45,040 Speaker 1: they've never been involved in this. They've never been environmentalists, 248 00:13:45,360 --> 00:13:48,360 Speaker 1: they've never been involved in manufacturing. They don't know what 249 00:13:48,400 --> 00:13:51,080 Speaker 1: they're talking about. They haven't even done the research to 250 00:13:51,120 --> 00:13:54,680 Speaker 1: find out. The batteries are making these cars thirty percent heavier, 251 00:13:54,840 --> 00:13:56,760 Speaker 1: so we're having that much more wear and tear on 252 00:13:56,800 --> 00:13:59,240 Speaker 1: our roads, which means we're gonna have that much more 253 00:13:59,240 --> 00:14:02,120 Speaker 1: polluting By trying to fix the roads, getting those diesel 254 00:14:02,160 --> 00:14:05,360 Speaker 1: trucks out there, getting the asphalt out there, it is 255 00:14:05,400 --> 00:14:09,040 Speaker 1: a disaster, and I think it's turning us all into 256 00:14:09,120 --> 00:14:13,760 Speaker 1: a different level of conservative slash environmentalist. Well, and you 257 00:14:13,800 --> 00:14:15,920 Speaker 1: think about what you're talking about in the ocean with 258 00:14:16,000 --> 00:14:17,720 Speaker 1: the wind turbine coming down, I mean if that were 259 00:14:17,720 --> 00:14:21,720 Speaker 1: an oil spill, oh people would people anes hitting all 260 00:14:21,760 --> 00:14:24,520 Speaker 1: over the news. So that's how is this any different? 261 00:14:24,560 --> 00:14:26,320 Speaker 1: But you don't hear about it at all? And it 262 00:14:26,360 --> 00:14:29,239 Speaker 1: also impacts you talk about talking about fish and wildlife, 263 00:14:29,240 --> 00:14:32,320 Speaker 1: but like bird migratory patterns, that doesn't just mess up 264 00:14:32,360 --> 00:14:35,240 Speaker 1: the area that's around the ocean. I mean that's nationwide, 265 00:14:35,280 --> 00:14:37,920 Speaker 1: that's globally. When you think about messing with that stuff 266 00:14:37,920 --> 00:14:40,280 Speaker 1: and pollinators and all of those things, it's so much 267 00:14:40,320 --> 00:14:43,360 Speaker 1: bigger than just fish in the sea. I mean, it 268 00:14:43,400 --> 00:14:48,120 Speaker 1: goes beyond that. And you have to watch what's happening 269 00:14:48,200 --> 00:14:49,360 Speaker 1: in your local community. 270 00:14:49,360 --> 00:14:51,280 Speaker 2: And that's what we said about Goosh and Liquor. What 271 00:14:51,320 --> 00:14:51,680 Speaker 2: they did. 272 00:14:51,760 --> 00:14:55,840 Speaker 1: Their local community rose up and recalled their township board. 273 00:14:55,840 --> 00:14:58,960 Speaker 1: And now you've got JD. Vance and President Trump watching 274 00:14:58,960 --> 00:14:59,880 Speaker 1: what's happening in Big Ra. 275 00:15:00,400 --> 00:15:01,040 Speaker 2: But it's so. 276 00:15:00,920 --> 00:15:04,440 Speaker 1: Important to know who you elect, whether it's your local 277 00:15:04,480 --> 00:15:07,840 Speaker 1: representative or your governor, because in the state of Michigan. 278 00:15:08,480 --> 00:15:11,840 Speaker 1: We had local control taken away, and you watch what's 279 00:15:11,880 --> 00:15:14,600 Speaker 1: happening on the East coast with oceans. I mean, Kyle, 280 00:15:14,680 --> 00:15:17,560 Speaker 1: you've heard plenty of people say they do not want 281 00:15:17,600 --> 00:15:21,400 Speaker 1: these windmills, these wind turbines in Lake Michigan. But that's 282 00:15:21,440 --> 00:15:24,000 Speaker 1: something that the Democrats have talked about for a long time. 283 00:15:24,400 --> 00:15:28,920 Speaker 1: And once we pollute Lake Michigan, we are We're done. Right. 284 00:15:29,200 --> 00:15:32,840 Speaker 3: There were studies done twenty years ago about where would 285 00:15:32,840 --> 00:15:36,120 Speaker 3: the most efficient place be to put wind turn bines, 286 00:15:36,720 --> 00:15:39,880 Speaker 3: and it was about five miles off the coast of 287 00:15:40,280 --> 00:15:44,920 Speaker 3: Lake Michigan. Because that's it's you know, there's unfettered wind. 288 00:15:45,560 --> 00:15:48,680 Speaker 3: It's just that makes the most sense. And of course 289 00:15:48,760 --> 00:15:52,920 Speaker 3: the people the environmentalists and the liberals and the progressives 290 00:15:52,920 --> 00:15:55,840 Speaker 3: and the people who are living in Chicago, but they 291 00:15:55,880 --> 00:15:58,880 Speaker 3: have a place on Lake Michigan in Michigan, they well, 292 00:15:59,480 --> 00:16:02,960 Speaker 3: we can't that that's going to disrupt our view, and 293 00:16:03,000 --> 00:16:05,840 Speaker 3: so suddenly they are opposed to this sort of thing. 294 00:16:05,880 --> 00:16:09,800 Speaker 3: But I think it's really important to really really study 295 00:16:09,840 --> 00:16:13,160 Speaker 3: what people say and what they don't say. So, for example, 296 00:16:13,760 --> 00:16:16,680 Speaker 3: when this came out that Kamala Harris suddenly is is 297 00:16:17,200 --> 00:16:20,720 Speaker 3: not supportive of ev mandates. The reporting that was done 298 00:16:21,000 --> 00:16:25,160 Speaker 3: was that it says she doesn't support consumers being forced 299 00:16:25,280 --> 00:16:28,600 Speaker 3: to buy an EV mandate or an evy. That's not 300 00:16:28,680 --> 00:16:32,160 Speaker 3: what we're talking about. What we're talking about is what 301 00:16:32,200 --> 00:16:34,760 Speaker 3: they do is they go one step above. So for example, 302 00:16:35,760 --> 00:16:39,720 Speaker 3: they they so for example, if they went to cereal 303 00:16:39,800 --> 00:16:44,400 Speaker 3: manufactures and said, fifty percent of what you make has 304 00:16:44,480 --> 00:16:50,000 Speaker 3: to be muslix. Do you remember that Muslix does that? 305 00:16:50,040 --> 00:16:52,800 Speaker 3: I don't even know if it's Muslix. It was like 306 00:16:52,840 --> 00:16:55,080 Speaker 3: this terrible. It was like grape nuts six at worse. 307 00:16:55,240 --> 00:16:57,640 Speaker 4: Oh do you remember grape nuts? I do remember grape mouts. 308 00:16:57,680 --> 00:16:59,080 Speaker 4: My dad had grape nuts every morning. 309 00:16:59,120 --> 00:17:00,800 Speaker 2: Anyways, so the like mysterious. 310 00:17:00,840 --> 00:17:03,120 Speaker 1: They seem like they'd be good, and then you always disappoint. 311 00:17:03,280 --> 00:17:05,959 Speaker 3: Yes, they don't taste like grapes or nuts, but anyway, 312 00:17:06,000 --> 00:17:10,280 Speaker 3: the point is. The point is, so if the government 313 00:17:10,359 --> 00:17:13,119 Speaker 3: went to cereal manufacturers and said this is what you 314 00:17:13,240 --> 00:17:15,520 Speaker 3: have to make, a lot of people don't like it, 315 00:17:15,560 --> 00:17:18,280 Speaker 3: but it doesn't really matter. So then you go to 316 00:17:18,320 --> 00:17:22,560 Speaker 3: the store and fifty percent of what's there is musliks 317 00:17:22,640 --> 00:17:25,560 Speaker 3: or grape nuts, and that's all you have to buy. 318 00:17:26,000 --> 00:17:27,439 Speaker 3: That's that's how they're doing it. 319 00:17:27,520 --> 00:17:31,440 Speaker 1: But this isn't that's that's communism. I mean that you 320 00:17:31,480 --> 00:17:34,359 Speaker 1: say that as a joke, but it's so. I just 321 00:17:34,440 --> 00:17:37,680 Speaker 1: finished my online course at Hillsdale, which I'll give them 322 00:17:37,800 --> 00:17:40,280 Speaker 1: a I'll pitch this because it was really you can 323 00:17:40,320 --> 00:17:43,000 Speaker 1: take these free courses. Hillsdale College has these free courses, 324 00:17:43,040 --> 00:17:47,000 Speaker 1: and I took a Marxism, Socialism and communism and Jesse. 325 00:17:47,160 --> 00:17:51,719 Speaker 1: You listen to how this was created. Marx was like 326 00:17:51,800 --> 00:17:56,920 Speaker 1: this semi probably an upper middle class guy who could 327 00:17:56,960 --> 00:18:00,600 Speaker 1: just live off of his family's savings and hisitans and 328 00:18:00,640 --> 00:18:02,760 Speaker 1: be a forever student like all these liberals we know. 329 00:18:03,040 --> 00:18:04,320 Speaker 2: And he was a forever student. 330 00:18:04,640 --> 00:18:07,439 Speaker 1: And then he became a journalist and he started these 331 00:18:07,480 --> 00:18:12,040 Speaker 1: writings and caused revolutions. Ultimately, then you see Lenin and 332 00:18:12,040 --> 00:18:14,400 Speaker 1: then you have stalin it and it led to death 333 00:18:14,440 --> 00:18:14,679 Speaker 1: in it. 334 00:18:14,760 --> 00:18:15,720 Speaker 2: But it was the same. 335 00:18:15,760 --> 00:18:20,520 Speaker 1: It was like Ukraine was the bread basket of Europe. 336 00:18:20,640 --> 00:18:24,159 Speaker 1: They were making all of this wheat. They were poisoning 337 00:18:24,160 --> 00:18:26,080 Speaker 1: it for the people. You could only have one product, 338 00:18:26,119 --> 00:18:29,040 Speaker 1: you couldn't and then everybody was starving. But it was 339 00:18:29,119 --> 00:18:32,600 Speaker 1: all based on propaganda, propaganda, propaganda, and that was Really, 340 00:18:32,600 --> 00:18:35,440 Speaker 1: what Mark's taught was propaganda, and that's how we are 341 00:18:35,520 --> 00:18:39,800 Speaker 1: at this place with EV vehicles, because the propaganda says 342 00:18:40,119 --> 00:18:43,840 Speaker 1: it is safe, renewable energy is the best way. The 343 00:18:43,960 --> 00:18:49,719 Speaker 1: truth is that what will happen faster on a local 344 00:18:49,840 --> 00:18:53,119 Speaker 1: level will be catastrophic. You know, I know we have 345 00:18:53,240 --> 00:18:56,280 Speaker 1: this thing where Okay, you know there's there's these things 346 00:18:56,280 --> 00:18:58,359 Speaker 1: happening with the ozone layer and whatever it is today. 347 00:18:58,400 --> 00:18:59,800 Speaker 2: You know, when I was a kid, it was acid rain. 348 00:18:59,840 --> 00:19:02,760 Speaker 1: But you know, there's issues that we have to constantly 349 00:19:02,800 --> 00:19:05,840 Speaker 1: be monitoring. And I'm not saying those don't exist. I'm 350 00:19:05,880 --> 00:19:09,040 Speaker 1: saying that what we know for a fact is that 351 00:19:09,080 --> 00:19:13,440 Speaker 1: these forever chemicals that putting these wind turbines in landfills, 352 00:19:13,680 --> 00:19:17,880 Speaker 1: that putting these chemicals into our water supply, putting these 353 00:19:17,920 --> 00:19:23,200 Speaker 1: bat these batteries, once they die into our landfills, will 354 00:19:23,240 --> 00:19:25,800 Speaker 1: cause cancers, will cause I mean, when you look at 355 00:19:25,800 --> 00:19:30,639 Speaker 1: what the pfast causes in Michigan, we're talking about infertility, 356 00:19:30,840 --> 00:19:34,919 Speaker 1: low birth weight, liver disease, and cancers of all kinds. 357 00:19:35,640 --> 00:19:38,480 Speaker 1: This is immediate, it's personal. It's going to happen to you. 358 00:19:38,560 --> 00:19:41,520 Speaker 1: Like I hear all these things about all the environment 359 00:19:41,560 --> 00:19:43,760 Speaker 1: we're gonna end up. The world will shrivel up and 360 00:19:43,800 --> 00:19:46,040 Speaker 1: die in five years. It's been the same since I 361 00:19:46,119 --> 00:19:48,080 Speaker 1: was a kid. Five to ten years. We're all going 362 00:19:48,160 --> 00:19:51,960 Speaker 1: to die. But the slow death of cancer. As someone 363 00:19:52,000 --> 00:19:54,200 Speaker 1: who's gone through it, as someone who watched my dad 364 00:19:54,280 --> 00:19:57,760 Speaker 1: go through it, this is unreasonable that nobody is talking 365 00:19:57,760 --> 00:20:02,199 Speaker 1: about the realities of what is going into this machinery. 366 00:20:02,320 --> 00:20:06,439 Speaker 1: What will happen when these companies pollute our world and 367 00:20:07,640 --> 00:20:09,000 Speaker 1: the Chinese don't care. 368 00:20:09,400 --> 00:20:10,199 Speaker 2: That's the problem. 369 00:20:10,359 --> 00:20:14,080 Speaker 1: If it were an American manufacturing company, you know, they'd 370 00:20:14,200 --> 00:20:18,800 Speaker 1: have to disclose. They wouldn't get this pass from Gretchen 371 00:20:18,800 --> 00:20:21,080 Speaker 1: Whitmer to say we're not going to have an environmental 372 00:20:21,160 --> 00:20:23,840 Speaker 1: testing exam, We're not going to have an environmental review, 373 00:20:23,840 --> 00:20:26,880 Speaker 1: which is what has happened. Why would you Why would 374 00:20:26,920 --> 00:20:30,440 Speaker 1: you say a company comes from China, where they are 375 00:20:30,520 --> 00:20:34,919 Speaker 1: the thirteenth highest polluter in the world. Ninety percent of 376 00:20:34,960 --> 00:20:38,760 Speaker 1: their ground water is not safe for human consumption, Fifty 377 00:20:38,800 --> 00:20:41,199 Speaker 1: percent is not safe to even use it in the 378 00:20:41,240 --> 00:20:45,360 Speaker 1: agriculture industry. How can you say you would bring this 379 00:20:45,640 --> 00:20:49,879 Speaker 1: to Michigan, fifteen miles from where we're pulling drinking water. 380 00:20:50,280 --> 00:20:52,560 Speaker 4: This is actually where I think that Trump should utilize 381 00:20:52,640 --> 00:20:55,240 Speaker 4: RFK junior now that he's fully on the team, because 382 00:20:55,280 --> 00:20:59,000 Speaker 4: he is already considered an expert in this space, I 383 00:20:59,000 --> 00:21:01,120 Speaker 4: think in the health and wellness. But if he could 384 00:21:01,160 --> 00:21:03,520 Speaker 4: bleed over into some of these other areas and talk 385 00:21:03,560 --> 00:21:07,320 Speaker 4: about this to a new audience, to those environmentalists that 386 00:21:07,359 --> 00:21:10,720 Speaker 4: are probably more independent minded, I think that's where you 387 00:21:11,160 --> 00:21:12,600 Speaker 4: utilize an RFK junior. 388 00:21:13,440 --> 00:21:16,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, whatever happened to the hole in the ozone? 389 00:21:17,600 --> 00:21:18,119 Speaker 1: Did it? Like? 390 00:21:18,200 --> 00:21:19,000 Speaker 3: Close back up? 391 00:21:20,160 --> 00:21:22,280 Speaker 1: What was terrified of using hairspray as a child? 392 00:21:22,480 --> 00:21:26,040 Speaker 3: Yes? I remember being in fifth grade and reading what 393 00:21:26,119 --> 00:21:26,400 Speaker 3: was it? 394 00:21:27,200 --> 00:21:27,359 Speaker 1: Was it? 395 00:21:27,440 --> 00:21:28,919 Speaker 3: Weekly Reader? Do you remember that? 396 00:21:29,080 --> 00:21:29,320 Speaker 2: Yeah? 397 00:21:29,359 --> 00:21:31,560 Speaker 1: But I think there is still a whole weren't there 398 00:21:31,600 --> 00:21:33,680 Speaker 1: like no emission days too, like days where you weren't 399 00:21:33,680 --> 00:21:36,560 Speaker 1: supposed to do anything. Well, we still have those, like 400 00:21:36,680 --> 00:21:37,840 Speaker 1: in Ozone action. 401 00:21:37,720 --> 00:21:40,320 Speaker 2: Days we had, but it was from day to. 402 00:21:40,400 --> 00:21:42,320 Speaker 1: Rally because it's so hot, that's and it was on 403 00:21:42,359 --> 00:21:42,880 Speaker 1: the action day. 404 00:21:42,960 --> 00:21:45,040 Speaker 3: I remember being in fifth grade, which would have been 405 00:21:45,160 --> 00:21:51,720 Speaker 3: like nineteen eighty eight, and hearing about acid rain and 406 00:21:52,119 --> 00:21:54,159 Speaker 3: I remember thinking every time it rained it was going 407 00:21:54,240 --> 00:21:57,280 Speaker 3: to be acid, you know, and falling on us. 408 00:21:57,400 --> 00:22:00,119 Speaker 1: Let's take a quick commercial break. We'll continue next on 409 00:22:00,160 --> 00:22:07,679 Speaker 1: the Tutor Dixon Podcast. There was truly a massive amount 410 00:22:07,720 --> 00:22:12,000 Speaker 1: of pollution allowed because there was. It was ignorance, you know. 411 00:22:12,040 --> 00:22:15,359 Speaker 1: And so I mean coming from manufacturing and watching how 412 00:22:15,760 --> 00:22:18,720 Speaker 1: the process changed for my dad, because my dad had 413 00:22:18,720 --> 00:22:21,479 Speaker 1: been in it his whole life, and just the different 414 00:22:21,480 --> 00:22:24,240 Speaker 1: process of you know, collecting what you're doing, don't let 415 00:22:24,720 --> 00:22:28,520 Speaker 1: you had to. I mean at our factory, we had 416 00:22:28,840 --> 00:22:31,399 Speaker 1: people on staff that were dedicated to making sure that 417 00:22:31,440 --> 00:22:33,679 Speaker 1: we were compliant with all of these rules and that 418 00:22:33,720 --> 00:22:36,480 Speaker 1: we were making sure that we were clean manufacturing and 419 00:22:36,520 --> 00:22:36,960 Speaker 1: clean away. 420 00:22:36,960 --> 00:22:39,040 Speaker 2: And then we had another woman who we. 421 00:22:38,880 --> 00:22:41,640 Speaker 1: Were paying one hundred and fifty thousand dollars a year, 422 00:22:41,680 --> 00:22:44,720 Speaker 1: and that was a lot of money back then. And 423 00:22:45,240 --> 00:22:48,400 Speaker 1: she was only someone who would come by quarterly, one 424 00:22:48,480 --> 00:22:52,280 Speaker 1: day every quarter do the testing, making and take soil 425 00:22:52,359 --> 00:22:55,560 Speaker 1: samples from all around the shop and testing the air, 426 00:22:55,880 --> 00:22:59,400 Speaker 1: testing the water. I mean, constantly making sure that we 427 00:22:59,400 --> 00:23:02,600 Speaker 1: were men manufacturing at a clean level. And so as 428 00:23:02,680 --> 00:23:05,320 Speaker 1: much as people go, well what happened, I think that 429 00:23:05,359 --> 00:23:06,960 Speaker 1: there are a lot of people that don't realize a 430 00:23:06,960 --> 00:23:10,640 Speaker 1: lot happened. A lot changed with American manufacturers to make 431 00:23:10,680 --> 00:23:13,639 Speaker 1: sure that we are manufacturing at a cleaner and cleaner level, 432 00:23:13,920 --> 00:23:16,520 Speaker 1: which did change a lot of that, and so this 433 00:23:16,720 --> 00:23:20,640 Speaker 1: idea that, oh, yeah, all manufacturing is bad. 434 00:23:20,760 --> 00:23:22,440 Speaker 2: It has changed so much. 435 00:23:22,920 --> 00:23:27,400 Speaker 1: We have become so much cleaner, and we don't want 436 00:23:27,440 --> 00:23:29,639 Speaker 1: to go back to a point where you just become 437 00:23:29,680 --> 00:23:33,040 Speaker 1: irresponsible because there are people who don't actually know the 438 00:23:33,080 --> 00:23:36,040 Speaker 1: impacts of the chemicals that the Chinese are going to 439 00:23:36,080 --> 00:23:36,600 Speaker 1: come into our. 440 00:23:36,560 --> 00:23:40,399 Speaker 2: State and use. And it's not just Michigan. Why are 441 00:23:40,400 --> 00:23:41,119 Speaker 2: they buying farm land. 442 00:23:41,160 --> 00:23:43,200 Speaker 1: They're not farming on it In some cases, I think 443 00:23:43,200 --> 00:23:45,680 Speaker 1: they are farming on it because they've so destroyed their 444 00:23:45,720 --> 00:23:49,320 Speaker 1: own environment. I mean, you get no water, you can't 445 00:23:49,359 --> 00:23:52,120 Speaker 1: grow anything, you know, and they literally have no water. 446 00:23:52,200 --> 00:23:55,360 Speaker 1: Because the size of China is a massive country. They 447 00:23:55,359 --> 00:23:58,920 Speaker 1: have destroyed it. Why would we allow them to come 448 00:23:58,920 --> 00:24:01,679 Speaker 1: in here and just destroy the United States when we 449 00:24:01,840 --> 00:24:05,600 Speaker 1: have since the eighties changed so much about what we've 450 00:24:05,640 --> 00:24:08,399 Speaker 1: been doing to make sure that things are clean. And 451 00:24:08,480 --> 00:24:13,080 Speaker 1: it's just it's very aggravating to watch the Democrats preach 452 00:24:13,200 --> 00:24:17,280 Speaker 1: this and be sitting there like silently screaming, no, no, 453 00:24:17,440 --> 00:24:20,480 Speaker 1: they're not doing that. They're not cleaning up the environment. 454 00:24:20,640 --> 00:24:24,960 Speaker 1: They're bringing in more dangers because they are ignorant to manufacturing. 455 00:24:25,040 --> 00:24:27,800 Speaker 4: Well, they just the most of them don't believe in capitalism, 456 00:24:27,920 --> 00:24:30,239 Speaker 4: so they assume every big business is bad. I mean, 457 00:24:30,280 --> 00:24:33,119 Speaker 4: I think about when I was at PNG, how many 458 00:24:33,280 --> 00:24:35,479 Speaker 4: hours we spent talking about I was I mean I 459 00:24:35,520 --> 00:24:37,560 Speaker 4: was in marketing and sales. I wasn't even on the 460 00:24:37,600 --> 00:24:39,560 Speaker 4: side that was dealing with all the compliance, But how 461 00:24:39,680 --> 00:24:42,959 Speaker 4: much we talked about you know, down dish so for instance, 462 00:24:43,040 --> 00:24:45,199 Speaker 4: was used in the oil spill cleanup, and that was 463 00:24:45,520 --> 00:24:48,600 Speaker 4: a product that was innovated for that. Or tide pods, 464 00:24:48,680 --> 00:24:50,840 Speaker 4: how every year they're trying to innovate them so you 465 00:24:51,000 --> 00:24:53,399 Speaker 4: use less and less water, so you have less waste 466 00:24:53,440 --> 00:24:55,959 Speaker 4: within your laundry. I mean, the amount of time that 467 00:24:56,000 --> 00:24:59,000 Speaker 4: these big corporations spend focusing on that thing, on that 468 00:24:59,040 --> 00:25:00,840 Speaker 4: type of stuff that at the end of the day 469 00:25:00,880 --> 00:25:04,480 Speaker 4: doesn't really impact their bottom line, but it helps the community. 470 00:25:04,560 --> 00:25:06,879 Speaker 1: You also make a great point because this idea of 471 00:25:06,960 --> 00:25:11,120 Speaker 1: corporate greed. When you hear Harris and Biden and Walls 472 00:25:11,119 --> 00:25:16,479 Speaker 1: talk about corporate greed, those companies have to constantly invest 473 00:25:16,520 --> 00:25:19,440 Speaker 1: in R and D, constantly invest and like I said, 474 00:25:19,560 --> 00:25:21,919 Speaker 1: the money we spent every year to make sure that 475 00:25:22,000 --> 00:25:25,560 Speaker 1: we were clean. That make sure that we were becoming cleaner. 476 00:25:25,680 --> 00:25:28,040 Speaker 1: And that's the same. I mean that PMNG products are 477 00:25:28,119 --> 00:25:30,480 Speaker 1: very similar. They use a lot of the same chemicals, 478 00:25:30,520 --> 00:25:33,240 Speaker 1: and so they have to constantly and it's on them, 479 00:25:33,600 --> 00:25:36,920 Speaker 1: and all factories know it's on you because that's a lot. 480 00:25:36,960 --> 00:25:37,480 Speaker 2: It's on you. 481 00:25:37,480 --> 00:25:39,680 Speaker 1: You have to make sure what you're doing is safe 482 00:25:39,720 --> 00:25:43,960 Speaker 1: and clean. And that's why this idea of corporate greed. 483 00:25:44,400 --> 00:25:46,800 Speaker 1: Wait a minute, these companies. You can complain all you 484 00:25:46,840 --> 00:25:48,760 Speaker 1: want about what the CEO makes, but look at their 485 00:25:48,880 --> 00:25:50,560 Speaker 1: R and D. Look at how much they are putting 486 00:25:50,600 --> 00:25:54,080 Speaker 1: back in to make sure that they are innovating and creating. 487 00:25:54,320 --> 00:25:57,240 Speaker 1: We used to be the innovator, the innovator, the innovator 488 00:25:57,280 --> 00:25:59,919 Speaker 1: of the world, the top innovator the United States. Was 489 00:26:00,200 --> 00:26:03,600 Speaker 1: that we're losing that status and nobody else is like us. 490 00:26:03,640 --> 00:26:06,240 Speaker 1: There's not going to be somebody that's come up behind us. 491 00:26:06,359 --> 00:26:11,880 Speaker 3: And I think that there are, especially small businesses. Will 492 00:26:11,880 --> 00:26:15,640 Speaker 3: say farmers are small businesses. They have an inherent interest 493 00:26:15,960 --> 00:26:20,040 Speaker 3: in protecting their investment. Their investment is their land and 494 00:26:20,080 --> 00:26:24,399 Speaker 3: their equipment, and they have an inherent interest in protecting that. 495 00:26:24,640 --> 00:26:28,800 Speaker 3: And so if they are using you know, fertilized fertilizers 496 00:26:28,840 --> 00:26:31,919 Speaker 3: or pesticides or chemicals that are going to damage the 497 00:26:31,920 --> 00:26:36,600 Speaker 3: groundwater or their livestock or their crops that is harming 498 00:26:36,640 --> 00:26:40,000 Speaker 3: their investment. And So what I think is one of 499 00:26:40,040 --> 00:26:44,280 Speaker 3: the most objectionable things about people like Joe Biden and 500 00:26:44,320 --> 00:26:48,240 Speaker 3: Kamala Harris is that they have this inherent belief that 501 00:26:48,359 --> 00:26:53,240 Speaker 3: these are bad people who want to screw over the 502 00:26:53,280 --> 00:26:57,679 Speaker 3: average person, and they are. They're just trying to you know, 503 00:26:57,840 --> 00:27:01,600 Speaker 3: gouge people or you know, ruin the environment, whatever it is, 504 00:27:01,800 --> 00:27:05,359 Speaker 3: and it's just it's simply not true. 505 00:27:05,400 --> 00:27:07,880 Speaker 4: Most of the farmer, I mean, it's a heritage business 506 00:27:07,880 --> 00:27:10,399 Speaker 4: at this point. You're hoping to pass it down to 507 00:27:10,440 --> 00:27:12,359 Speaker 4: your children for the most part. Most of that's what 508 00:27:12,400 --> 00:27:15,280 Speaker 4: these businesses are, farmers all these things. So I agree 509 00:27:15,280 --> 00:27:17,760 Speaker 4: with you, it's not something that you're going to ruin 510 00:27:18,000 --> 00:27:19,880 Speaker 4: or ruin your reputation in the process. 511 00:27:20,600 --> 00:27:22,760 Speaker 2: So this, I think, I just want to end on. 512 00:27:23,000 --> 00:27:27,000 Speaker 1: The frustrating thing to me is hearing Harris change her 513 00:27:27,040 --> 00:27:29,520 Speaker 1: mind on all these earths. We haven't heard Harris say 514 00:27:29,560 --> 00:27:31,760 Speaker 1: a darn thing. Let's be honest, will. 515 00:27:31,600 --> 00:27:32,600 Speaker 2: We hear anything tonight? 516 00:27:32,640 --> 00:27:33,320 Speaker 4: That's the question. 517 00:27:33,400 --> 00:27:36,439 Speaker 2: We'll see, but the spokespeople coming on. No, No, she 518 00:27:36,440 --> 00:27:38,120 Speaker 2: doesn't feel this way. She doesn't feel that way. 519 00:27:38,320 --> 00:27:41,120 Speaker 1: She actually doesn't know anything about any of these topics. 520 00:27:41,160 --> 00:27:43,080 Speaker 1: That's why she's going to sit in this interview tonight 521 00:27:43,080 --> 00:27:45,280 Speaker 1: and have Governor Walls hold her hand. They're going to 522 00:27:45,480 --> 00:27:47,879 Speaker 1: both try to It's like the blind leading the blind. 523 00:27:47,920 --> 00:27:49,800 Speaker 1: They have no idea what the policies are, and they've 524 00:27:49,800 --> 00:27:51,960 Speaker 1: openly admitted it. So they have a bunch of staff 525 00:27:51,960 --> 00:27:54,439 Speaker 1: who's probably handing them notes all day say oh, and 526 00:27:54,440 --> 00:27:56,040 Speaker 1: we're going to do this, and we're going to do that, 527 00:27:56,280 --> 00:28:00,000 Speaker 1: and they're trying to digest it with no personal experience, 528 00:28:00,560 --> 00:28:05,400 Speaker 1: no business experience, no ability to actually understand the background 529 00:28:05,480 --> 00:28:08,480 Speaker 1: of this. When you're led by activists and lobbyists, you 530 00:28:09,320 --> 00:28:10,800 Speaker 1: have no personal experience. 531 00:28:11,119 --> 00:28:12,359 Speaker 2: You don't actually know what. 532 00:28:12,280 --> 00:28:14,760 Speaker 1: It's like to go through this and realize what you 533 00:28:14,920 --> 00:28:17,280 Speaker 1: just said, and what you just said is that this 534 00:28:17,359 --> 00:28:22,040 Speaker 1: is These are people's legacies, this is their life, their land, 535 00:28:22,440 --> 00:28:25,439 Speaker 1: what they've done, they've dedicated their life to, and they 536 00:28:25,480 --> 00:28:28,280 Speaker 1: want to see future generations do it. This is just 537 00:28:28,359 --> 00:28:30,840 Speaker 1: the government coming in and saying we have no idea 538 00:28:30,880 --> 00:28:32,800 Speaker 1: what you do. Well, we think you can do it better, 539 00:28:32,800 --> 00:28:34,600 Speaker 1: and this is what we're going to demand. So we'll 540 00:28:34,640 --> 00:28:37,560 Speaker 1: see tonight what she says. You know, we're probably gonna 541 00:28:37,960 --> 00:28:41,080 Speaker 1: hash this out on Friday. Maybe we'll put something else 542 00:28:41,160 --> 00:28:45,120 Speaker 1: up on Saturday to kind of analyze what she and 543 00:28:45,320 --> 00:28:49,000 Speaker 1: Walls say tonight. We're headed right now to see Trump. 544 00:28:49,040 --> 00:28:51,080 Speaker 1: I'm anxious to see what he has to say because 545 00:28:51,160 --> 00:28:53,520 Speaker 1: he's obviously going to be talking about the mandates today. 546 00:28:53,960 --> 00:28:56,880 Speaker 1: And we will keep you posted, so make sure you 547 00:28:56,960 --> 00:29:00,880 Speaker 1: come back. We are at the Tutor Dixon Podcast. Also 548 00:29:01,040 --> 00:29:04,080 Speaker 1: check out the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you 549 00:29:04,120 --> 00:29:06,200 Speaker 1: get your podcasts. 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