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Speaker 1: your hosts Nate Newton, Kurt Daniels, Jesse Holly, and Shannon Gross. Thursday,
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Speaker 1: is a brisk twenty six degrees in Frisco, Texas, man,
Speaker 1: and it's windy, and it feels like fifteen degrees outside. Fellows,
Speaker 1: winner has finally arrived. It took midway through February hit here,
Speaker 1: but we finally have it. And welcome to the show.
Speaker 1: Hanging with the Boys presented by Wingstop. Natan Newton, Jesse Holly,
Speaker 1: Kurt Daniels, Shining Gross. How are you Chris Beam on
Speaker 1: the ones and two is how you Fellows feeling got
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl behind us? We can start the season.
Speaker 1: We can move forward. Man, what a game? Did y'all
Speaker 1: see that coming? It's just so amazed that, uh the
Speaker 1: MVP Todd Bowls. Man, it's just amazed me how he
Speaker 1: won at a you know, African American coach on defense. Wow,
Speaker 1: that that was so great man. Yeah, that whole defense
Speaker 1: should have got MVP. Right, Yeah, we see, I know
Speaker 1: I got you stopped there like wow. But you know what,
Speaker 1: I'm talking all defense. So everything y'all talk about to day,
Speaker 1: it's gonna be about defense. For na see what you're
Speaker 1: going with this? I see yeah, this is oh yeah,
Speaker 1: this is a this is a little foreshotow and a
Speaker 1: little bit of Brady. Tom Brady is so smart. And
Speaker 1: Shannon said this yesterday when I called him, because he
Speaker 1: is the only one that responds. Everyone not smart enough
Speaker 1: to realize that I was going all defense when I
Speaker 1: call y'all, he said, he said, I'm like, wow, Shadow,
Speaker 1: did you like that defense? He like, well, that's what
Speaker 1: I called you about to talk about defense? Y'all? Are
Speaker 1: you ready? Why why nobody in the Dallas area is
Speaker 1: ready to talk about defense? Fellas, we're ready, Nate, we've
Speaker 1: been talking about all year. Have you not been on
Speaker 1: this show? It just hasn't been in a positive half.
Speaker 1: They half let me stop clouding, man, Let's have a
Speaker 1: great show. No no, no, But I like where you're
Speaker 1: going with this. I like I pick up what you're
Speaker 1: putting down and how defensively, While yes you had Tom
Speaker 1: Brady and yes he's the golden boy defensively to be
Speaker 1: able to mount up and shut down a prolific offense
Speaker 1: like the Kansas City Chiefs, I mean, despite they were
Speaker 1: missing their two tackles and their receivers dropped a ton
Speaker 1: of passes, defense won that football game. The defense shut
Speaker 1: down the most high powered offense in the National Football League.
Speaker 1: We can all agree on that there isn't an offense
Speaker 1: that's more high powered, more ready to score points and
Speaker 1: bunches than the Kansas City Chiefs. And they were basically
Speaker 1: a team they played two weeks earlier, you right, and
Speaker 1: they they top bowls. To your credit what you were saying,
Speaker 1: they put together a masterful game plan. Man, you know,
Speaker 1: it seems just so. And I'm going when you going,
Speaker 1: Nate to have linebackers that can run and play and
Speaker 1: you know, tackle and not have to do a dance
Speaker 1: move out to every single play, but just get back
Speaker 1: up and line up and go to business, you know,
Speaker 1: go back to work. I mean to have guys in
Speaker 1: the secondary to be able to do something that they
Speaker 1: were doing. Then your guys up front, they their benefits.
Speaker 1: When you know that behind you, my guys are gonna
Speaker 1: be able to cover and be able to tackle. I
Speaker 1: could pin my ear backs, my ears back and just
Speaker 1: go to work up front. And we saw it on
Speaker 1: display on all three levels defensively for the temp Me
Speaker 1: Buccaneers in that Super Bowl game. I just that was
Speaker 1: something that I was kind of surprised about. Jesse, you
Speaker 1: mentioned those linebackers. I mean, you know, the front flour
Speaker 1: is getting a lot of publicity for obviously they played
Speaker 1: a great game and put that pressure on on the Homes.
Speaker 1: But I was just surprised. I really didn't know those
Speaker 1: guys very well, but just to see how fast they were,
Speaker 1: how physical they were, they could, you know, come up
Speaker 1: for the run or drop back for the past. I
Speaker 1: mean it, I don't know. In some ways, I kind
Speaker 1: of thought maybe the Cowboys were okay and linebacker and
Speaker 1: you know, they really needed to fortify that front. They
Speaker 1: still do, but man, what a difference it makes when
Speaker 1: you got some guys there in the middle. It can
Speaker 1: really do both. I'm telling you something, man, And Jesse,
Speaker 1: you've been in meetings like this, and I've definitely been
Speaker 1: in meetings like this when you're divas a coordinator and
Speaker 1: you're head coach, walk in and say, fellas, we're gonna
Speaker 1: bracket these two guys. They automatically told you that four
Speaker 1: guys was not going to participate in the regular game plan.
Speaker 1: We have two guys on the wide receiver, who have
Speaker 1: two guys on the tight end. The rest of y'all,
Speaker 1: y'all will have to play play the run and tag
Speaker 1: along with the pass. And when you got four guys,
Speaker 1: you can't. You cannot. You can only say that when
Speaker 1: you have four horses up front that can get it done.
Speaker 1: And they had the proper four horses up front, and
Speaker 1: and on, and one guy played with with with seven fingers.
Speaker 1: He played with seven fingers. Though he was assoted that
Speaker 1: that Mahomes scrambled for four hundred and ninety seven yards
Speaker 1: is like the most all season that without it, that's
Speaker 1: not even you know, gaining yards. He scrambled in the
Speaker 1: backfield four hundred and ninety seven yards in that game
Speaker 1: with all that pressure he was getting. That's just say, bro,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you something, man, guess, Washington, I don't
Speaker 1: even see what they participated. They gotta beat thirty one
Speaker 1: to twenty three by this team. New Orleans got a
Speaker 1: decent offense. They got beat thirty one twenty Green Bay
Speaker 1: thirty one twenty and that's with three interceptions by the
Speaker 1: quarterback in the second half they was only able to monitor.
Speaker 1: And then this thing that they did. One of the
Speaker 1: greatest young quarterbacks we've seen in a long time. I mean,
Speaker 1: but it's too bad. We're gonna they're gonna get cherry
Speaker 1: picked because they won't be doing that again on defense,
Speaker 1: because they gonna get took They got two guys, Burrett
Speaker 1: and another guy as free agents. They gonne they gonna
Speaker 1: Kyle does free. I mean, like you said, they had
Speaker 1: two guys on taking out Hill, they had two guys
Speaker 1: taken out well. I mean, why couldn't Kansas City, I
Speaker 1: mean there had to be somebody open. I mean, why
Speaker 1: couldn't they go to that short passing round? I mean,
Speaker 1: what was it? Just just too much pressure? It was it?
Speaker 1: See from the first play, from the first play, they
Speaker 1: tried to run a screen and they was on him,
Speaker 1: like Barrett was on the fifty eight. Like nah, we
Speaker 1: ain't giving up screens, we ain't giving up the shorts.
Speaker 1: And then they was like, okay, we're going to bracket
Speaker 1: these guys. So when you bracket the guy, you take
Speaker 1: away virtually, you take away Kelsey out of the middle
Speaker 1: of the field and all those things where teams were
Speaker 1: given where we'll let him catch it in front of us. Well,
Speaker 1: he's a beast to tackle and he can get down
Speaker 1: to see me. He can run, so you take away
Speaker 1: the shore, ending long on him and Hill. Now you
Speaker 1: asking guys that are twos and threes to beat these
Speaker 1: other guys. And they felt they choose the threes were
Speaker 1: equal because their number two quarterback is only a Burnham
Speaker 1: I mean rob wire receive. He's only just to get
Speaker 1: down the field guy. So when he was trying to
Speaker 1: throw them along and they're all over him, that wasn't happening. Uh.
Speaker 1: Their offensive line, I think they had a herd offensive line.
Speaker 1: That's no excuse you to the Super Bowl now, baby,
Speaker 1: you don't be coverd and the COVID and everything as
Speaker 1: it's time the ball. So yeah, how much a factor
Speaker 1: did that play though? I mean Ken City lost their
Speaker 1: their left tack fisher. They lost him in the Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think it had I think it had some factor
Speaker 1: in it. But the thing that's this Ken City office
Speaker 1: is predicated on, it's the big play. And they they
Speaker 1: almost they pull you to deep waters and let you
Speaker 1: drown with the big plays and they and they want
Speaker 1: you to match their big playability and most teams can't.
Speaker 1: But when the big play isn't happening, and the thing
Speaker 1: that usually gets you going and the short game is
Speaker 1: Travis Kelsey getting throughout this entire year, he's been unguardable.
Speaker 1: So when your big players are not happening, and they
Speaker 1: had a couple of them where you know, Pat was
Speaker 1: just a little bit off, and that's because the rush
Speaker 1: was coming and he wasn't able to set and throw. Um.
Speaker 1: There was about three or four of them that if
Speaker 1: he was able to connect, would have been touchdowns, and
Speaker 1: then that would have put you in that foot race
Speaker 1: again and say, all right, now they're up twenty one seven,
Speaker 1: or they're up twenty one's fourteen or twenty one all
Speaker 1: and and and it's a battle back and forth, and they'll,
Speaker 1: you know, but when that deep game is not going,
Speaker 1: when they can't when they can't hit you over the
Speaker 1: head with the long passes and stuff like that. Then
Speaker 1: they go and look, say, okay, let's find Travis Kelsey
Speaker 1: in the middle, because those receivers have lifted the defense.
Speaker 1: They have run these order routes, and now the defense
Speaker 1: is lifted. Now I got which all year long, Travis
Speaker 1: Kelsey has been unguardable underneath. And I'll take my matchups
Speaker 1: all day long. I don't care if it's a Devin White,
Speaker 1: I don't care if it's whatever the linebacker you want
Speaker 1: to name. I like my chances with Travis Kelsey against
Speaker 1: that linebacker. And they just said, listen, we're not giving
Speaker 1: that to you. And if you're gonna connect with number
Speaker 1: receiver number two or three down the field, that we'll
Speaker 1: live with that. But we're not gonna let Tyreek Hill
Speaker 1: give us the peace on all day long and rush
Speaker 1: and have two hundred and thirty yards receiving like he
Speaker 1: did in the first matchup. And we're not gonna let
Speaker 1: Travis Kelsey have one hundred and fifty yards like he
Speaker 1: did in the first matchup. We're gonna take these two
Speaker 1: guys out and you don't even have to beat us
Speaker 1: with the running game because we trust our front four
Speaker 1: or Pringle or one of these other guys. These secondary
Speaker 1: guys will have to beat us, but these two guys
Speaker 1: won't be able to beat us. And they just couldn't
Speaker 1: connect on that, and and they bank on that, They
Speaker 1: bank on being able to say, you guys are in
Speaker 1: a foot race, and we are much better and much
Speaker 1: more equipped for foot race, and then you know, one
Speaker 1: hundred yard dash than most teams are. They could never
Speaker 1: get it going. And Tom Brady is so methodical. When
Speaker 1: you watched that two minute drive right before the half,
Speaker 1: it takes me back to when the Cowboys played the
Speaker 1: Patriots in New England and then they methodically walked us
Speaker 1: down the field and they scored a touchdown and threw
Speaker 1: a touchdown pass to Aaron Hernandez was six seconds left.
Speaker 1: The very next year, I'm in New England and just
Speaker 1: so happened that we're reviewing that game and to hear
Speaker 1: the backstory of how they knew they wanted to have
Speaker 1: the ball in that position to win a game with
Speaker 1: the time and how much time they were going to
Speaker 1: leave on the clock for the opposing team, and I
Speaker 1: just had a flashback because they said, we want to
Speaker 1: leave you with ten seconds or less when you get
Speaker 1: the ball back. That Dallas game, there were six seconds
Speaker 1: left when they got the ball back after that touchdown
Speaker 1: to try to you know, come back and win the game.
Speaker 1: We couldn't. And then before the half you saw the
Speaker 1: City got the ball like six or seventh's let to
Speaker 1: go and a half And that was that, Like Tom
Speaker 1: Brady is so good at that. He's so good at that,
Speaker 1: And that to me was really the nail in the coffin.
Speaker 1: Like before the second half we started, I was like,
Speaker 1: this is it. Like if they score here, this is it.
Speaker 1: Because even if Kansas City comes back out and scoring
Speaker 1: in the third quarter, you gotta give a ball back
Speaker 1: to Tom Brady and he's going to systematically walk you
Speaker 1: down and burn up as much clock as he can.
Speaker 1: He's not going to turn the ball over and they're
Speaker 1: just gonna find a way to smother you and suffocate you.
Speaker 1: And they did that in the second half, and man,
Speaker 1: it was it was. It was a great defensive effort
Speaker 1: by Tampa Bay. It it was fun to watch defensively.
Speaker 1: You do a real quick insanity check on this show.
Speaker 1: I just want to do, is there anyone on this
Speaker 1: show that does not agree with me? Thinking that Tom
Speaker 1: Brady is hands down the greatest NFL quarterback of all time.
Speaker 1: Does anyone disagree with that? On the show? I mean,
Speaker 1: they has a guy who won list may have, he
Speaker 1: may have. Let me let me say this right here, man,
Speaker 1: let me say this right here. When you have a
Speaker 1: guy like Leonard Fournette that everybody in the league kicked
Speaker 1: to the curb except one guy, h tom Brady told
Speaker 1: him right before the playoffs, get your hard hat on.
Speaker 1: Let's getting it. You would be in the film room
Speaker 1: with me. You would not leave the field until I
Speaker 1: lead the field out of practice. And because I need you,
Speaker 1: I need you to brain they linebackers down. We don't
Speaker 1: want to worry about taking the top off and getting
Speaker 1: the linebackers deep. I want you to bring them so
Speaker 1: I can work with Grunk and with Antonio Brown across
Speaker 1: that middle. And he worked with these guys, and you
Speaker 1: heard a story after story after story all week of
Speaker 1: tom Brady said this. Tom Brady told me this. Tom
Speaker 1: Brady calmed me like this, And I'm saying to myself,
Speaker 1: Jenna Uninus, move over, baby, you've met your match. Montana,
Speaker 1: move over, man, give him some room. You've got a
Speaker 1: guy that thinks like you think. And Dion Santas told
Speaker 1: me seven or eight years ago, he said the master,
Speaker 1: he said, nope, everybody get killed for doing this. And
Speaker 1: Tom Brady been doing it for twenty years now, dinking
Speaker 1: and duncan and taking what the defense give him, and
Speaker 1: he wins game. And we criticize every other quarterback for
Speaker 1: managing games, but we don't. We don't. We don't criticize
Speaker 1: the goat. Just think about it now. He would deep
Speaker 1: and dunk you down the field and nobody says nothing, Oh,
Speaker 1: he don't have a long game. Well, you threw more
Speaker 1: long balls than anybody. But when he needed a deacon
Speaker 1: dunk against Green Bay, he did it. When he needed
Speaker 1: a deacon dunk against this uh team here, he did it.
Speaker 1: You heard Jesse say eighty five years ago against Datasy
Speaker 1: dincon dunked. Come on, man, yeah, win the game. His
Speaker 1: stats in that game were pretty pedestrian overall. I mean,
Speaker 1: you're exactly right, he takes what the defense gives you.
Speaker 1: But the thing that impressed me through that whole week,
Speaker 1: like he said, night you heard these stories come out
Speaker 1: about him, you know, send him text to players. I
Speaker 1: think one guy was crying after the FC championship or
Speaker 1: the yeah, the champion NFC championship, And he said, you
Speaker 1: know they stop it, no crying. We still got a
Speaker 1: game to win, you know. And it made me wonder,
Speaker 1: you know, that's the kind of leadership. You wonder if
Speaker 1: the Cowboys have you know, and how long have they
Speaker 1: not had it? But you know, again, he's the He's
Speaker 1: the greatest. And anything he says, guys are gonna listen.
Speaker 1: Maybe he's got the skins on the wall, where like
Speaker 1: nobody in Dallas really has that. I'm gonna tell you something.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you something. Man, Troy Aikman had it
Speaker 1: even when we were losing. It's called that unbreakable will
Speaker 1: that when I walked through those doors, no matter what
Speaker 1: I've done off the field, when I walked through these
Speaker 1: doors of the place that I'm employed at, my whole
Speaker 1: attitude changed. And for those eight to nine or maybe
Speaker 1: ten hours you're there, all you see is football in
Speaker 1: me and right, Tom Brady has the skins. But this
Speaker 1: is something he even told his owner when they drafted him.
Speaker 1: He said, I'm something special. You will enjoy me while
Speaker 1: I'm here. He told his owner that he said I
Speaker 1: would give you all that I got. So cowboys had
Speaker 1: that sense, akeman, I mean, did you see that kind
Speaker 1: of stuff in Romo Jesse Earton? Do we see it
Speaker 1: in Dak Yes? Um, But there's different degrees of it.
Speaker 1: And again, Tom, you know, only Tom Brady can tell
Speaker 1: a guy, hey, who's never been to the championship. We've
Speaker 1: never been to bow, We've never want an NFSC championship. Hey, listen,
Speaker 1: don't don't cry. We ain't done. Like I know, this
Speaker 1: is probably the pinnacle of where you've been at in
Speaker 1: your career. But I'm just here to tell you this
Speaker 1: is this is number ten for me, so I know,
Speaker 1: I know what it's going to take to win this
Speaker 1: against that team. So dry your eyes. We still got
Speaker 1: work to do. And in that moment, you know, you
Speaker 1: look at this guy and you go, oh, snap, he
Speaker 1: knows what he's talking about, and you kind of, you know,
Speaker 1: you kind of lock in. It's a different story when
Speaker 1: the guys that you're trying to go to battle with
Speaker 1: they're all on the same page in the sense of,
Speaker 1: you know, Tony could never tell a guy hey, don't no, no, listen,
Speaker 1: dry your eyes. We gotta want to sup Bowl. I
Speaker 1: know it takes to get there because he's never done it.
Speaker 1: Same you know, same thing with Dak Wow. They both
Speaker 1: have leadership. They they're all kind of on the same
Speaker 1: playing field when it comes to the elevation of playing
Speaker 1: the playoffs. Not the people around Tony Romo, the people
Speaker 1: around Dak Prescott. You know, Jason Witten couldn't tell those
Speaker 1: guys that because he never done it. So it's different
Speaker 1: when you hear it from a guy who's done it
Speaker 1: not only once, twice, six times right now, You go
Speaker 1: okay when he speaks it kind of reverberates with a
Speaker 1: different tone, you know, across the locker room, because like
Speaker 1: this is a guy who's actually done it, opposed to
Speaker 1: a guy who's saying it and you're you know, you
Speaker 1: know he means well, but you're like, yeah, dude, like
Speaker 1: enjoyed this with me, you know what I'm saying, Like
Speaker 1: we never been here before, and Tom was like, enjoyed
Speaker 1: this little moment, but we got we got a bigger picture.
Speaker 1: Let me ask you this right here, And this is
Speaker 1: a question to all you guys. I see Tom Brady
Speaker 1: and a few commercials, but I might ask you this
Speaker 1: right here. And it's no bar but nobody because we
Speaker 1: all make money off of the Dallas Cowboys. But during
Speaker 1: the offseason, every time we hear about Tom Brady, it's
Speaker 1: in connection to what is it football? Or is in
Speaker 1: connection to other things? Who got in trouble this past offseason,
Speaker 1: the most trouble for breaking COVID rules. He did he did.
Speaker 1: Now we saw Dak try to do the same thing,
Speaker 1: but it was just out of control when Tom Brady
Speaker 1: was taking these guys to not his home but to
Speaker 1: a football field, high school football field. Every time you
Speaker 1: hear tom Brady, even when you hear the bat oh
Speaker 1: he massaged the footballs, what was it in connection with?
Speaker 1: You don't have enough guys on this team, And I
Speaker 1: can honestly say this, you know, and don't worry about it.
Speaker 1: They don't love the game enough to to step up
Speaker 1: to somebody and say this is what you should do.
Speaker 1: People that the game stays around the game, you know,
Speaker 1: And I, like I told people, I didn't understand and
Speaker 1: truly appreciate the game until late in my career. So
Speaker 1: it can happen for everybody. But you got to have
Speaker 1: enough horses around you that's pulling in the right direction.
Speaker 1: So when that one get out of line, just like
Speaker 1: you know, Bob slip. You know you got a dog
Speaker 1: that's behind you in the back, that know what's going on,
Speaker 1: and one in the front. So if you get out
Speaker 1: of line with that one that's in the front that's
Speaker 1: putting that one in the back, gonna snip your heels
Speaker 1: and get you back in the line. Ain't no hells snippers, hill, Bro,
Speaker 1: Dad can lead all he wanted. He got no hells snippers. Bro,
Speaker 1: what's wrong? What's a laughing? I'm trying to be I
Speaker 1: like that analogy. I like that that is that should
Speaker 1: be a headline. Nick should write that this year the
Speaker 1: Cowboys ain't got no hell snippers. That would get some
Speaker 1: that would get some clicks. All right, I tell you
Speaker 1: what you brought this up date. We'll let We'll let
Speaker 1: Kurt get into it when we come back. Talked about
Speaker 1: the off season breaking breaking protocol. There's gonna be a
Speaker 1: lot of talk about how they handled the off season
Speaker 1: this year with the handled it handled it last year.
Speaker 1: The president of the NFLPA came out back at the
Speaker 1: I believe the end of December and talked about how
Speaker 1: they should have less of a off season program. Because
Speaker 1: it was beneficial and then listed a lot of reasons
Speaker 1: why I want to get y'all's take on this, and Kurt,
Speaker 1: get your notebook ready because you got all the talking
Speaker 1: points on this one. So we'll turn it over to you.
Speaker 1: But let's let's talk about it because it's a very
Speaker 1: interesting conversation and I think we're gonna have different points
Speaker 1: of view on it. So stay tuned. We'll get into that.
Speaker 1: We'll get into a lot more when we come back
Speaker 1: to take our first break. We'll be right back on
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Speaker 1: I'm so sorry. It is okay this this hey, I mean,
Speaker 1: Jesskin can cuss and do all these things, and you
Speaker 1: never mentioned that. Well, he doesn't do it on the show.
Speaker 1: That's why, that's right, he doesn't. I'm sorry, I'm sorry.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I'm Jesse. Actually did not sorry, Jesse. He
Speaker 1: put the symbols in there. I'm just the bus driver
Speaker 1: and you're the rowdy children on this show. So everyone,
Speaker 1: so I'm a tattle. I'm a big tattletal makes a
Speaker 1: big tattle till I'm gonna tell y'all something right now.
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Speaker 1: ribs and all of that. I said, I wanted some shrimp.
Speaker 1: I wasn't gonna try to fry some shrimps. I was
Speaker 1: calling around to ask how to do that. He said, Well,
Speaker 1: asks Jesse, he may put it in a crop pot.
Speaker 1: I said, Jest, put anything else. I put him in
Speaker 1: the air fry, though I was. I tell you, I
Speaker 1: tell you who who natives to our group. You know
Speaker 1: how you have those friends where you always have to say, hey,
Speaker 1: make sure you know, don't this is public knowledge. Don't
Speaker 1: tell anybody. I wouldn't tell anybody that unless you tell
Speaker 1: them that and give them that disclaimer. There is a
Speaker 1: very good possibility that something will be talked about that
Speaker 1: you say off the air that like, but you just
Speaker 1: gotta make sure you put that in there because if not,
Speaker 1: there's a chance that what you talk about we'll get out.
Speaker 1: So I'm sorry. I apologize. Nate's friend. It's okay. It's okay,
Speaker 1: because I don't think you've ever said anything on the
Speaker 1: show that we were like, man, why did you say
Speaker 1: that on the air yet? Oh, I've got something that
Speaker 1: your mom said that I was. I'm not gonna do.
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna do that. I'm not gonna do. I'm
Speaker 1: letting mother girls tell tell that story, which she gets
Speaker 1: back on the show. Okay, okay, all right, Kurt, talk
Speaker 1: us through this, uh j C. What is it? Treader?
Speaker 1: Treader however pronounced his name. The president of the NFLPA
Speaker 1: had some comments. You send us the article over over
Speaker 1: this week, and uh, it's very interesting. I talked to
Speaker 1: Nate about it, uh yesterday and he had some interesting comments.
Speaker 1: And I want to know what you guys, so give
Speaker 1: us kind of the cliff notes version of what the
Speaker 1: president of the NFLPA had to say. Kurt, Yeah, you
Speaker 1: just said that, you know, well, this past season due
Speaker 1: to COVID, A lot of the off season programs were
Speaker 1: they didn't happen. You know, there was no ta's, there's
Speaker 1: no mini camp, it was all done. The meetings were
Speaker 1: done virtually, there's no you know, offseason workouts of any kind.
Speaker 1: Training camp was shortened up a little. Preseason games were
Speaker 1: obviously gone. What the president of the NFLPA was saying
Speaker 1: that this should be the new norm. That that I
Speaker 1: think he said. His quote was, I believe the changes
Speaker 1: implemented this season have demonstrated that we can put an
Speaker 1: entertaining product on the field while further reducing wear and
Speaker 1: tear on our players bodies. And so you know, he
Speaker 1: felt that, you know that the games weren't that sloppy
Speaker 1: starting out, that there was high scoring, they were fun
Speaker 1: to watch. And because of that, um, you know, if
Speaker 1: there wasn't a need to have players there all summer,
Speaker 1: coming in in the spring to do these off season
Speaker 1: workouts and so, um, you know, it kind of flew
Speaker 1: into the radar. But in reading this, I definitely want
Speaker 1: to get you know, Nate, you and Jesse's inions on
Speaker 1: as former players. Yes, they would save some wear and
Speaker 1: tear maybe, but wouldn't it really affect the quality on
Speaker 1: the field. Ah, Like I told Shannon yesterday, the love
Speaker 1: of money would not let this happen. Merchandise has to
Speaker 1: be sold, players have to be visible, TVs have to
Speaker 1: get their cuts and their takes and to to to
Speaker 1: build up until this season. They may cut back some
Speaker 1: days or maybe some hours or when the players gonna
Speaker 1: be on field, but the ownership would not let this
Speaker 1: go because they need their dollars. Now. When it comes
Speaker 1: to the production part, I mean you guys remember earlier
Speaker 1: in the year we had a record pace of torn
Speaker 1: acls and achilles injuries that we saw earlier in the
Speaker 1: football hitting from guys bodies who just haven't adjusted. And
Speaker 1: the more the more time off away from the facilities
Speaker 1: that you give these professional athletes and I use the
Speaker 1: term professional loosely because some of them don't act professional league. Oh,
Speaker 1: mate Newton, the more time that you give them off,
Speaker 1: the more and more you're going to see showing up
Speaker 1: out of shape, trouble off the field. See, it's easy.
Speaker 1: It's easy to say, oh yeah, sure, let's not have
Speaker 1: these things when there's a pandemic and you cannot go anywhere,
Speaker 1: right when you're when you're when you're forced to stay
Speaker 1: in the home and ridiculed. If you're caught outside of
Speaker 1: your home, it's a whole other thing. If you're saying,
Speaker 1: let's not have these off season workouts and I'm free
Speaker 1: to go party and hang out and do all those
Speaker 1: other things and not have to report anywhere until June
Speaker 1: or July, that's when you run into the guys. We
Speaker 1: already saw guys coming out of shape when there was
Speaker 1: no access to the facilities. So when you continue to
Speaker 1: give guys these ability, disability to not have to show
Speaker 1: up to a designated place, we are creatures of habit.
Speaker 1: We are creatures of routine. As professional and as profound
Speaker 1: as we may be as athletes, we need direction. And
Speaker 1: when we do not get direction, we get wayward and
Speaker 1: that can lead to terrible outcomes. You'll have more players
Speaker 1: showing up to train the camp out of shape, trying
Speaker 1: to work themselves back in shape. That the injury numbers
Speaker 1: will go through the roof, and you'll start seeing more
Speaker 1: off the field incidents happening, and in regards to DUIs
Speaker 1: and domestic situations and you know, fights, and because when
Speaker 1: we when we don't have direction, and I don't mean everybody,
Speaker 1: this is not This isn't it is abroad for everybody,
Speaker 1: But there's a large majar of young, immature, very rich
Speaker 1: players who do not know how to handle themselves without
Speaker 1: a sense of direction. And so while it may seem
Speaker 1: good on the surface, like oh yeah, see, we don't
Speaker 1: really need this, we saw earlier in the year the
Speaker 1: product that was put on the field. It was ugly.
Speaker 1: It was really really ugly. We saw the injury numbers
Speaker 1: earlier in the fear the earlier in the year those
Speaker 1: were and they were all like acls, they were all
Speaker 1: like seizing ending injuries. I think that's a bad idea,
Speaker 1: I really do. I think structure for athletes, especially football players,
Speaker 1: and Nate you can speak to this. I know for
Speaker 1: me that structure is something that was so paramount for
Speaker 1: everything that we do. And when you take that away,
Speaker 1: and you know, and Gronk joked about it, he said, yeah,
Speaker 1: well what I did was I ran on a Monday
Speaker 1: and I just put on three different shirts and sent
Speaker 1: it in. I'm not gonna check and everybody's not Grounk,
Speaker 1: But do you think that's the mentality right that is here?
Speaker 1: Is Rob Gronkowski and he's like, I'm not doing all
Speaker 1: that running every day all day. I'll work my way
Speaker 1: in the shape as the season goes on. And this
Speaker 1: is Rob Gronkowski is one of the best tight ends
Speaker 1: in NFL history. And he said, well, I just put
Speaker 1: on the same I put on the three different shirts
Speaker 1: on the same workout in one day just to satisfy
Speaker 1: my coaches need for me to work out three days
Speaker 1: a week. Let me say something, man, you're gonna let
Speaker 1: every guy that's three hundred pounds plus free for five months.
Speaker 1: You're gonna let every guy that's three hundred pounds So
Speaker 1: when they come in camp looking like this thing, we
Speaker 1: let go here eight weeks until our season. Who I
Speaker 1: couldn't pronounce his name because people thought I couldn't. I
Speaker 1: didn't want to, and I would not pronounce his name. Now,
Speaker 1: if you want a bunch of olds running round you're camp,
Speaker 1: have at it, have at it. And then when it's
Speaker 1: when it's all said and done. Now, this is where
Speaker 1: it's gonna really lead to, is now you're gonna start
Speaker 1: saying we don't need all these weeks of training camp
Speaker 1: because they already talking about cutting back on training camp
Speaker 1: so now all of these fat dudes walking walking the
Speaker 1: camp and the coach is going crazy with the ownership
Speaker 1: and you saw that, Well we need like three weeks
Speaker 1: now just to get in shape. Nah, it ain't gonna work, brother,
Speaker 1: I'm telling it. Then the dollar bills that the ownership
Speaker 1: wonna lose all the bills. Now, it will work if
Speaker 1: if if the player associations come back and say, well,
Speaker 1: we know we wanted forty nine or fifty percent will
Speaker 1: get We'll take forty six percent. That okay, hands up.
Speaker 1: I think you're giving back some punts they ain't get.
Speaker 1: They ain't going for that, bro. Yeah, it's it's definitely
Speaker 1: a collective bargaining agreement. And I think part of that.
Speaker 1: You may say, you know, the owners want an eighteenth game.
Speaker 1: They want they're gonna have seventeen this year to make
Speaker 1: up some revenue, and they're they're shooting for eighteen, and
Speaker 1: this may be a bargaining chip where the players say, yeah,
Speaker 1: we'll play that eighteenth game, but we're not gonna you know,
Speaker 1: we're not gonna have so much time in the offseason.
Speaker 1: We're required to be there so and a lot of
Speaker 1: guys gonna get cut and a lot of fat guys
Speaker 1: gonna get cut. I'm just selling you. They agree to that,
Speaker 1: we'll continue to be the dumbest union. And all of sports,
Speaker 1: the baseball, basketball, hockey, all laugh at our our players union,
Speaker 1: all of them. They all laugh at our because the
Speaker 1: NFL players Union is the weakest, the most divided, and
Speaker 1: the dumbest. And if you if you think adding an
Speaker 1: eighteen game and taking away more practice time is going
Speaker 1: to be better for you this listen, these these these athletes,
Speaker 1: now they don't want to work. They don't want to
Speaker 1: work when you gotta work, and now you're gonna give
Speaker 1: them more free time. You're you're you're asking, you're begging,
Speaker 1: you're inviting trouble for your league. And that's just my pediment.
Speaker 1: And to Nate's point, the NFL has done an amazing
Speaker 1: job over the last ten to fifteen years to make
Speaker 1: the NFL a twelvemonth a year's sport. If you think
Speaker 1: about it, it's not by accident. Jimmy Johnson, think about it.
Speaker 1: Every day Jimmy Johnson came into the league. You've got
Speaker 1: you know, the only really downtime is between after the
Speaker 1: Super Bowl and when free agency starts, which is the
Speaker 1: middle of March. Think about it. You got free agency
Speaker 1: in March, you got the draft in April, you got
Speaker 1: OTAs in May, you got OTAs in mini camps in June,
Speaker 1: you got training camp in July, in August, then you
Speaker 1: roll into the season, and then the end of the season,
Speaker 1: you got the Pro Bowl, and then you got the
Speaker 1: Super Bowl again, and then it's a twelve And they've
Speaker 1: done a tremendous job with the draft, taking the Draft
Speaker 1: from this boring who cares whatever, to turning it into
Speaker 1: this three day you can't miss this event, at least
Speaker 1: on the first night. Anyway, they've turned it into this
Speaker 1: drama that they've you know, they start teasing a month
Speaker 1: out and now it's that's turned into an event on
Speaker 1: its own. So they're they're slowly building every month to
Speaker 1: be a huge event. And like Nate said, if you
Speaker 1: take offseason activities out of that, that takes two or
Speaker 1: three months of programming off the table. Because they're in
Speaker 1: the news, they're leading off Sports Center every day, they're
Speaker 1: they're being talked about, they're building their brand, they're making
Speaker 1: money for the league, which in turn makes money for
Speaker 1: the players. So, like Jesse said, if they do this,
Speaker 1: They're they're they're not thinking big picture from a players standpoint,
Speaker 1: and they're they're making the pie smaller. So if they
Speaker 1: do it, I think, like you said, Kurt, it's a
Speaker 1: bargaining chip. It's something that they'll give and take. But
Speaker 1: I don't think there's any way they just do away
Speaker 1: with offseason activities. It doesn't make sense on either side
Speaker 1: to me. What if what if this season has all
Speaker 1: the appearances that it's going to be much like last
Speaker 1: season because of COVID restrictions. I mean, how much is
Speaker 1: this going to hurt the Cowboys? Then we need to
Speaker 1: go sign Tom Brady so he can go get a
Speaker 1: football field from us. And I'm being honest, man, I'm
Speaker 1: being honest. We we we were allowed to tell our
Speaker 1: fans that, and it's it's four or five other new
Speaker 1: coaches last year that didn't have this disaster we had,
Speaker 1: but we were allowed to tell our fans, Okay, we
Speaker 1: got injured, we had a new coach, we had new
Speaker 1: this players then buy in, well, everybody else bought in
Speaker 1: right again, So it's nowhere in the world. If I'm
Speaker 1: coach McCarthy, I just begin fined. I just write a
Speaker 1: letter to the to do people in New York, big
Speaker 1: park avenues and look at her man. I got to
Speaker 1: work this year. I got to go to work. I
Speaker 1: have to go to work. And these lawyers got to
Speaker 1: go to work. And most of these coaches, like, I mean,
Speaker 1: you take your half. The league is probably turning into
Speaker 1: younger coaches who understand, who understand the zoom etiquette in
Speaker 1: the way of teaching. But most coaches aren't built like that.
Speaker 1: Most coaches are more built on let me get my
Speaker 1: hands on these players. Let's get on the football field.
Speaker 1: Let's actually see this thing in motion with live people
Speaker 1: in person, bodies, own bodies, pads on pads, helmet on
Speaker 1: a helmet. That's how they function. And when you take
Speaker 1: that away and you ask them to go and do
Speaker 1: things virtually, they're they're not good at doing thing virtually.
Speaker 1: They're not good at doing the thing over the computer
Speaker 1: where guys are sitting in another room. No, I want
Speaker 1: to be able to see the white of your eyes.
Speaker 1: I want to be able to hear the grunts that's
Speaker 1: happening in the football field. I want to be able
Speaker 1: to correct on the run. I want to be able
Speaker 1: to see the players and go you know what, This
Speaker 1: guy can't cover in the flats, this guy can't really cover.
Speaker 1: That guy can't really run routes. This guy really cannot block,
Speaker 1: you know what, he can't throw. But I don't get
Speaker 1: a chance to see that if all my officeson has
Speaker 1: done virtually or cut down to a very limited amount.
Speaker 1: And then you're getting training camp and you make it
Speaker 1: even harder on yourself because I got up, the speed
Speaker 1: picks up. But also now I gotta try to evaluate players,
Speaker 1: make a roster, oh, and get ready for a football season.
Speaker 1: Like that's that's that's that's hardening itself. Just to evaluate
Speaker 1: the players and get a roster. Now you gotta add
Speaker 1: into how do I gain plan for my next opponent
Speaker 1: in the next three or four weeks and one training camp.
Speaker 1: That's that's not And you know this is the big
Speaker 1: thing that everybody say, whether they do it in college
Speaker 1: where if you bamma, is your really word? Is your clips?
Speaker 1: Are you really word? Okay, you just go out and say, hey,
Speaker 1: that's the number that dude there's a future first round
Speaker 1: pick can't play with us. Yeah, but but they but
Speaker 1: you still get winner, you still get winner winner workouts,
Speaker 1: you still get spring But what I'm saying is they
Speaker 1: say that the college player come from virtually zero to
Speaker 1: a thousand miles an hour. Well, you can't put that product,
Speaker 1: Like you said, Ja, you can't put that product because
Speaker 1: this guy may look good playing at Bama. But what
Speaker 1: if you come in and, like you say, can't run
Speaker 1: a correct route. And here's Jack Thorne to a space
Speaker 1: but a guy supposed to be But in college you
Speaker 1: can get there because the supreme after of the comability.
Speaker 1: But here you can't get there against Tampa Bay because Dan.
Speaker 1: I'll ascue, just to give you an idea how far
Speaker 1: things have come. I was watching an interview with Tom Landry,
Speaker 1: probably back in nineteen seventy six, seventy seven, something like that,
Speaker 1: and it was the second week of training kit that
Speaker 1: the rookies had been there two weeks. It was the
Speaker 1: first week, first week of the veterans. That Saturday, after
Speaker 1: the first week, they're playing a full fact blue white,
Speaker 1: full contact scrammage is tackling to the ground, full contact.
Speaker 1: And then they had six preseason games before they actually
Speaker 1: seen eight weeks. It was eight weeks. It was eight
Speaker 1: weeks when I got there, it was six weeks. But
Speaker 1: before I got there. It was eight weeks and we
Speaker 1: had two hundred and forty guys and by the time
Speaker 1: I got that, it was down to one hundred and sixty,
Speaker 1: you know. And it was a blood bath. It was
Speaker 1: a blood bath. It was a blood bath. I mean
Speaker 1: you you got in there, man, you got your swarter,
Speaker 1: you got the gladiat as soon as you got them. Bro.
Speaker 1: It's like they didn't ask me, was I shape? They
Speaker 1: just found some paths where they weren't really path They
Speaker 1: put together some paths because they don't have nothing fat
Speaker 1: for the fat guy got a couple of pads they
Speaker 1: just put I came into the league. Tell into that.
Speaker 1: Go ahead, go ahead, I said. I came in the
Speaker 1: league on the tell into that. Like when I got
Speaker 1: into the league, we were still doing we were still
Speaker 1: doing two days. Rookie minicamp. I was ready to quit.
Speaker 1: I said, this is this is they they ran us
Speaker 1: into the ground. Rookie. That's worse than fourth low. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm like for the government, Scotts, I don't
Speaker 1: know about this man. And it was through pads two
Speaker 1: a day. It wasn't all this two a day walk
Speaker 1: through stuff. No, no, no, it was full pads, hitting,
Speaker 1: tackling every day. Wasn't no schedule off day. You know,
Speaker 1: you got your off day when coach felt like you
Speaker 1: did enough to get an off day. It wasn't like
Speaker 1: no every third day or every fifth day you got
Speaker 1: a day off day. It was so funny, man, we
Speaker 1: was in We was in California a couple of years ago,
Speaker 1: and they had did the three day acclimation deal and
Speaker 1: then on the fourth day, that morning they did a
Speaker 1: walk through. Right then that afternoon they had practicing, like
Speaker 1: four guys miss practiced some of the veteran off day.
Speaker 1: It just came through a walk through, and then the
Speaker 1: first day they bo And I love it because now
Speaker 1: all teams had that option before we did. The Cowboys
Speaker 1: never had that option. Coach Landry here listening to coach
Speaker 1: Joss music killing. We didn't have all we had to
Speaker 1: go like one week, we went like ten days straight
Speaker 1: before we had an off date, and that was just
Speaker 1: half a night off. So let's take our last huh,
Speaker 1: let's take our last break. When we come back, we
Speaker 1: need to congratulate one of an An eighty eight did
Speaker 1: something really big and overdue and well deserving over the
Speaker 1: weekend let's talk about who the next person will be
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Speaker 1: then whatever else Kurt wants to talk about in the
Speaker 1: last segment, come back find out what all that is.
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Speaker 1: how nice that locker room is. So fellas. Finally, Drew
Speaker 1: Pearson got into the Hall of Fame over the weekend,
Speaker 1: long overdue, much deserved. I've seen, I've seen news and
Speaker 1: seen reports that do up next possibly on the Hall
Speaker 1: of Fame ballot? Could be Tony Romo and DeMarcus Ware.
Speaker 1: Are those possibly or either either one of those gonna
Speaker 1: get in? Either one of those worthy? Shouldn't they get
Speaker 1: in first time? Ballot? Are those the next two guys
Speaker 1: that we'll get in? Kurt, Well, you think where or
Speaker 1: should For sure, I think he's one of the all
Speaker 1: time leaders in sacks. He should be a problem. Romo
Speaker 1: is going to be one of those kind of bubble
Speaker 1: guys guys where you know, if he'd if he'd won
Speaker 1: a title, you know, he'd probably in. You know, you
Speaker 1: look at compare him to Eli Manning, I mean statistically
Speaker 1: and as a quarterback, he's probably uh, you know better,
Speaker 1: but you know Manning's got the ring. So um, Rumo
Speaker 1: is probably going to be one of those Hall of
Speaker 1: Very Goods type guys. Hmm, yeah, I think. I think
Speaker 1: DeMarcus Ware is a is a shoe win like that
Speaker 1: that's hands down, without the question d Ware will wear
Speaker 1: a yellow jacket sooner rather than later. Um first ballot. Uh,
Speaker 1: it depends on who all he's going up against. UM,
Speaker 1: but for sure he's getting in there. Uh, Tony might
Speaker 1: be on that Drew Pierson route to the Hall of Fame.
Speaker 1: If he gets in, it's probably gonna have to be
Speaker 1: one of those centennial type deals or you know down
Speaker 1: the line where maybe the ballot isn't as thick of
Speaker 1: letting people you know, uh into that year. Um. I
Speaker 1: think he has some really good nose but ultimately, and
Speaker 1: we we say that it shouldn't be, but quarterbacks are
Speaker 1: judged on rings. And you can have all the numbers
Speaker 1: you want in the world, but did you get that
Speaker 1: blak blak? And for Tony he was, he wasn't able
Speaker 1: to secure it. And so there will be a lot
Speaker 1: of quarterbacks. You look at the Eli Mannings and the
Speaker 1: Ben roethlis Burgers of the world. Um, when they begin
Speaker 1: to retire and start making their march towards the Hall
Speaker 1: of Fame, you know, it all depends on who's Tony's
Speaker 1: rown up against. And you know, maybe in a couple
Speaker 1: of years, but I don't I don't think initially when
Speaker 1: he's when he's available to get in, he won't. He
Speaker 1: won't get into it. It'll take some time for him
Speaker 1: to get in. Yeah, I wanted to ask you, Jesse
Speaker 1: and eight two if I don't know how much you
Speaker 1: watched Drew Pearson. But he wasn't all that bad. Give
Speaker 1: you six foot one eighty something, he wasn't all that fast.
Speaker 1: So yeah, a lot of the highlights I saw him
Speaker 1: looked like he was kind of more of a body
Speaker 1: catcher and type than you know, But what was he
Speaker 1: like a fantastic route runner. You just have a fantastic
Speaker 1: quarterback throwing to him. I mean, what what made him
Speaker 1: so great? I guess his swag, his swag and the
Speaker 1: norm be Mike Irvin said something one time and Jess
Speaker 1: and making expound on it a little bit better than
Speaker 1: I can. Mike Irvin said, ain't that. You gotta be
Speaker 1: a great route runner. You just gotta be where you're
Speaker 1: supposed to be when the ball needs to be there.
Speaker 1: And that's what That's what he was to Roger. You know,
Speaker 1: him and Roger just can look at each other and
Speaker 1: they knew what was gonna happen. So and he could
Speaker 1: always make that catch. You know, you had Butch Johnson
Speaker 1: who was much faster. You had a lot of other guys,
Speaker 1: Golden Riches, I think, guys like that that was much faster,
Speaker 1: better route runners. But he was that complete package. And
Speaker 1: he was the guy that Roger bleed and the most
Speaker 1: to make it happen. Tony Hill a young Tony Hill
Speaker 1: that could fly, you know. So he was that guy
Speaker 1: just much more like Michael Irvan. We had a lot
Speaker 1: of guys that were faster, that could do anything, but
Speaker 1: when the ball was supposed to arrive at a certain
Speaker 1: place and we needed to play Michael Irvan was that guy. Hey, Kurt,
Speaker 1: I got a question for you. We were talking to
Speaker 1: Hall of Fame stuff. It seems like recently, when you
Speaker 1: know former Cowboys have been up for or going to
Speaker 1: be up for the Hall of Fame that they you know,
Speaker 1: it seems like they get inducted into the Ring of
Speaker 1: Honor is kind of a launching pad to help them
Speaker 1: get into the Hall of Fame. Do you do you
Speaker 1: see with Tony and DeMarcus, you know, being up for
Speaker 1: possible Hall of Fame nominations. Do you think that we'll
Speaker 1: see them inducted into the Ring of Honor this officer
Speaker 1: or this year? Oh? I don't that's a good question.
Speaker 1: I mean, they obviously will be at some point, um,
Speaker 1: but I don't know if it'll be this year or not.
Speaker 1: It may depend, you know, if we have fans on
Speaker 1: the stands, if they want to a big, big kind
Speaker 1: of production out of it or not. But when they're
Speaker 1: go in, I'm not sure, but they'll definitely go in.
Speaker 1: I mean, you've got those two, You've got Whitna'll be
Speaker 1: going in here in a few years. I mean, there's
Speaker 1: some guys coming up that that will definitely be included.
Speaker 1: You know, there's some guys from the past that you
Speaker 1: wonder if you know a lot of people would like
Speaker 1: to see included, Neverson Walls type or Tutall Jones or
Speaker 1: Harvey Martin, you know, and you wonder if they'll ever
Speaker 1: get a chance at it. You you all the greats
Speaker 1: of the Stillers and all the greats of the Raiders
Speaker 1: in and you know, I used to jokingly saying it's
Speaker 1: conspiracy theory against the Cowboys. I used to that that
Speaker 1: thing is real, that that that that thing is real.
Speaker 1: I mean, we have more, we have more major guys
Speaker 1: in broadcasting around the league, in NFL, in major spots
Speaker 1: for these guys being in places that they're in, and
Speaker 1: and and I think sometime when you are that local
Speaker 1: guy that has that vote, you'd be like, here's my
Speaker 1: chance to make my mark, And it won't be for
Speaker 1: the Dallas Cowboys. Just think we own CBS, we own Fox.
Speaker 1: We got Troy, we got Tony Romo, we got Moose
Speaker 1: John So, we had got guys all over the place.
Speaker 1: We got Micael Irving, we got Dian and Sanders doing
Speaker 1: his thing. We got guys all over the place. Now,
Speaker 1: whether you want to say they are eye guys or not,
Speaker 1: they're a guys. Yeah, oh guy from from you. You know,
Speaker 1: I was kind of disappointing against Cowboys fans. They said,
Speaker 1: you know, Lynch go into the Hall of Fame and
Speaker 1: Woodson not even you know, get get close. I guess
Speaker 1: he got kind of close. But that's another guy you'd
Speaker 1: like to see from the Cowboys get in there, is
Speaker 1: Darren Woodson. So you know, I say, the much money
Speaker 1: is mister Jones is made for these guys much big
Speaker 1: ideas as he's brought or you know, you would think,
Speaker 1: you know, and yeah, people say, well, Nate, you now
Speaker 1: you you acting like the rest of the guys. You right,
Speaker 1: I am. I'm a Dallas Cowboy doing through. So you write,
Speaker 1: I am acting like the other guys. You know, his
Speaker 1: conspiracy theory against the Dallas Cowboys. Tony Romo should get
Speaker 1: on it. Just broadcasting alone put him in there for that. Now,
Speaker 1: that's true. He changed a game. Tony Romo changed the
Speaker 1: game when he became a broadcast. He definitely changed the
Speaker 1: pay scale. That's right. Yeah, you got seven minutes. What
Speaker 1: are we talking about. Well, there's a couple of news
Speaker 1: items that came out just within the last couple of days.
Speaker 1: I thought i'd throw out you to get your opinions
Speaker 1: on you know, I don't know if you guys heard
Speaker 1: Russell Wilson kind of made some news yesterday. In fact,
Speaker 1: you know a lot of rumors out there now that
Speaker 1: he might be requesting a trade behind the scenes, and
Speaker 1: he's not happy with Seattle, and that you know, he
Speaker 1: wants more say in free agent signings, that sort of thing.
Speaker 1: It's just just all kind of you know, the rumor
Speaker 1: mill kicking up, or do you think there's a chance
Speaker 1: to you know, Seattle would let Russell'll get out of there.
Speaker 1: Let me say this before we start quarterbacks, y'all may
Speaker 1: not want to listen to those fat office alignment. Things
Speaker 1: ain't nice in that real world, like you think. Now
Speaker 1: everybody's gonna follow that on that apple pie like Tom Brady.
Speaker 1: Trust me when I tell you this, things ain't always
Speaker 1: nice outside defense. Now stay your old pastor, bro. But
Speaker 1: let me also say this. I love I love it too.
Speaker 1: I love it. I love the fact that players have
Speaker 1: finally come around to understanding just how much power they
Speaker 1: actually have in this league. And while most people will say, well,
Speaker 1: you guys need to shut up in dribble or shut
Speaker 1: up and just play. You make whatever whatever. I love
Speaker 1: the fact because at the end of the day, no
Speaker 1: matter how much these quarterbacks are play make, the ownership
Speaker 1: makes three times that, four times that from their play
Speaker 1: on the field. So while people may say, well you
Speaker 1: make a hundred he made one hundred million dollars, cool
Speaker 1: Seattle made six hundred million dollars. They made whatever. It is.
Speaker 1: So if there's a situation, because teams when they are
Speaker 1: done with you, when you when your soul your services
Speaker 1: are no longer needed for that team, they don't give you.
Speaker 1: They don't give you many options. They just say, fruit,
Speaker 1: we're done with you. See you, You're out the door.
Speaker 1: So I am so happy and glad to see players
Speaker 1: understanding that now and saying, you know what, things aren't
Speaker 1: the way that I want them to be. So I'm out,
Speaker 1: just like you would do me if I wasn't performed
Speaker 1: up to where you wanted me to perform, you tell
Speaker 1: me get out. So I'm gonna see myself out because
Speaker 1: you aren't doing things that make me happy as your
Speaker 1: franchise player. So I love it. I love it. I
Speaker 1: love it. I love it, and I know I know
Speaker 1: that some of these owners they're not used to the
Speaker 1: to the pushback. And we won't get into the history
Speaker 1: of the NFL because it was an interesting thing that
Speaker 1: I did watch prior to and I'm sorry, I'm sorry
Speaker 1: to kind of cut us cut into your your thinker,
Speaker 1: but there was there was, there was an interesting thing
Speaker 1: that I watched, and maybe one day we'll get deeper
Speaker 1: into this thing because it has a it has a
Speaker 1: kind of a racial understanding of the NFL and where
Speaker 1: the NFL started. And I didn't know that there was
Speaker 1: a period where the NFL had kind of black ball
Speaker 1: black players from playing in the league for a lot
Speaker 1: of these teams, and you start to just think to yourself, right,
Speaker 1: this was like happening like in the nineteen I think
Speaker 1: it was like nineteen thirties and forties, And you look
Speaker 1: at some of the people and ownership of teams, like
Speaker 1: the owners of those teams who are in their eighties
Speaker 1: and nineties, like they grew up in that era, Like
Speaker 1: they grew up in that era of how football was
Speaker 1: played back then, like they were their foundation was taught
Speaker 1: in that era. So again that's another college and for
Speaker 1: another day. But it just gives you a better understanding
Speaker 1: of house. Sometimes you say, well, why isn't there any
Speaker 1: black coaches and black you know, ownership and and and
Speaker 1: and things of that nature, and GM stuff like that.
Speaker 1: And he started looking at the history of the NFL
Speaker 1: and now who's running the NFL, what the owners and
Speaker 1: the people in power. A lot of them come from
Speaker 1: from that area. So I am extremely happy when I
Speaker 1: see guys like Russell, Wilson and Westbrook, I mean, Westbrook
Speaker 1: and Watson kind of take back that that power one
Speaker 1: say no, if you're not, if you guys aren't gonna
Speaker 1: do right by me, then I'm gonna I'm gonna I'm
Speaker 1: gonna flex my power and go elsewhere. But give them
Speaker 1: a bit father u is. Some reminisce okay, Green Bay
Speaker 1: won't help with their Sarah Caap and their quarterbacks, saying okay,
Speaker 1: when I need to help. Last year in the draft,
Speaker 1: y'all went out and repay me with a quarterback my
Speaker 1: future backup. So if y'all want me, guess what we're
Speaker 1: going to do some restruction of contracts. So I'm with
Speaker 1: you there, I mean, but the reason I said that
Speaker 1: right there, because it's not a lot of teams built
Speaker 1: for that that that quick success. Yo. Ray's saying, let
Speaker 1: people know how value bare. I'm with that as a player,
Speaker 1: but be calfol, which which team you choose that you
Speaker 1: may not be walking into a worse situation. Wouldn't it
Speaker 1: make sense for owners to talk to a guy like
Speaker 1: Wilson to get his perspective and opinion on free agents.
Speaker 1: I think he has said that, you know, he's a player,
Speaker 1: he's seeing these he's up against these guys. He may
Speaker 1: he may know things about them more so than a
Speaker 1: general manager sitting in the in the office, you know,
Speaker 1: opening up a can of way the way they look
Speaker 1: at it, like they told Aaron Rodgers before the mccarthur
Speaker 1: deal when he went in and said hey, what about
Speaker 1: this and what about that? And they told him you
Speaker 1: go play and we'll get players. But he never forgot that.
Speaker 1: Aaron rodgersnell forgot that. So when his time came, he's like, okay,
Speaker 1: now what so now they listen to him. I think
Speaker 1: Russell Wilson should be on that same level if he
Speaker 1: walked into your office and say, hey, coach, you know,
Speaker 1: what do you think about this? What do you think
Speaker 1: about you should at least conversate with this guy. You
Speaker 1: shouldn't be like hey man, players playing coaches coaching Scott
Speaker 1: Scott's because you know what, it don't always work that way.
Speaker 1: And the successful guys, I like the guys like Tom
Speaker 1: Brady who learned how to do it and went to
Speaker 1: Green and went to Tampa Bay in his coach their
Speaker 1: head coach said, man, I let Tom take over some
Speaker 1: practices to a certain extent, because when you have a
Speaker 1: player with that dominance and that ability to know what
Speaker 1: he wanted, what he needs from his receivers and running backs,
Speaker 1: you gotta let him go. And if Russell has that
Speaker 1: knowledge now and then and Aaron has that knowledge, and
Speaker 1: let them go. I mean, you don't let them take
Speaker 1: over your practice, but you have a segment way these
Speaker 1: guys can be show their powers, you know, because they
Speaker 1: do it on the field for you, why don't let
Speaker 1: them do it in practice too. I think I think
Speaker 1: you're seeing, Kurt. I think you're seeing a shift in
Speaker 1: the way that the league is gonna look in the
Speaker 1: coming years. You saw it in the NBA when players
Speaker 1: started talking in the off season and they started creating
Speaker 1: these super teams. I think what Jesse said, you're you're
Speaker 1: starting to see and what Nate said, Your quarterbacks are
Speaker 1: getting so smart that they're running their own offense. They're
Speaker 1: calling their own plays there. They have so much feedback
Speaker 1: that the coaches are starting to let them run their
Speaker 1: own kind of their own offense. I think they're realizing
Speaker 1: the United States coming back. Yeah, And I feel like
Speaker 1: they're starting to realize that, Hey, you know, if they're
Speaker 1: not gonna help me win and give me what I need,
Speaker 1: then I'll go somewhere that I can. I can do
Speaker 1: what Brady's done. I think he's changed the way the
Speaker 1: game's gonna look because now you're starting to hear you know,
Speaker 1: Watson wanted out of where he's at. Now you're hearing
Speaker 1: Russell Wilson, and I think it's gonna your elite quarterbacks
Speaker 1: that can go run an offense and run a team.
Speaker 1: I think you're gonna start seeing ownership listen to these
Speaker 1: guys and say, hey, come be my quarterback and I'll
Speaker 1: give you more control. Hey, Aaron, you want out of
Speaker 1: Green Bay, come here and I'll give you total control
Speaker 1: of the offense within what the coach wants to do.
Speaker 1: I think you're gonna see that more and more. I
Speaker 1: think this is a big gonna be a big deal
Speaker 1: in the NFL in the coming year. So because wide
Speaker 1: receivers couldn't push it to wed, it needed to be
Speaker 1: done in the running backs. But quarterbacks, elite quarterback. Just
Speaker 1: think we got thirty two teams, we got all these colleges,
Speaker 1: and every year we still want to talk about one
Speaker 1: or two quarterbacks coming out of the draft when there's
Speaker 1: a plethor of other positions. But everybody's looking for one
Speaker 1: elite quarterback that can take them to the next level.
Speaker 1: Are you smiling as a coach to see this guy
Speaker 1: in envision your game plan? Are you mad enough and
Speaker 1: willing enough to adjust what you do so this quarterback
Speaker 1: can take you to the next level. A lot of
Speaker 1: coaches ain't willing to do that yet. Yep, fell us.
Speaker 1: It has been fun. The hour goes by way too fast,
Speaker 1: and it's not often enough. But you know what, before
Speaker 1: we know it, we'll be back doing this thing daily
Speaker 1: because the season will be upon us really quick. I
Speaker 1: can't wait, especially to get this cold weather out of Dallas.
Speaker 1: It's not supposed to be this cold in the South.
Speaker 1: I love her. I've been hybernating, man, were so supporting.
Speaker 1: Get now we seeing a liquor winner. All October, no November.
Speaker 1: We had seventy degrees in December, seventy in January, we
Speaker 1: get four or five days of a little bit cold.
Speaker 1: All of a sudden, now we're done. This winner. We
Speaker 1: just hate is I've been hibernating and they lost the time.
Speaker 1: Most fairs hibernate lose weight a gainway. Yeah, I'm gonna say, yeah,
Speaker 1: your hybernated. You're supposed to stop eating Nate. That's how
Speaker 1: it works. Yeah, you're right, You're right about hybernate. Me
Speaker 1: eat more Nate, Jesse, Kurt, Chris Beef. Thanks for keeping
Speaker 1: us on the air. We'll be back next Thursday, same time,
Speaker 1: eleven thirty from Frisco or somewhere in the Metroplex. This
Speaker 1: has been hanging with the boys, see you fellas,