WEBVTT - Hangin' with the Boys: No Heel Snippers 0:00:06.600 --> 0:00:09.160 The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:09.200 --> 0:00:21.240 and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. Flowing out of the backfield, 0:00:21.440 --> 0:00:26.520 next flowing down the sidelines. He's Hanging with the Boys, 0:00:26.520 --> 0:00:30.880 presented by wing Stuff where flavor gets its wings. Now 0:00:31.200 --> 0:00:41.520 your hosts Nate Newton, Kurt Daniels, Jesse Holly, and Shannon Gross. Thursday, 0:00:41.800 --> 0:00:45.680 eleven thirty am Central Time. So you know that can 0:00:45.720 --> 0:00:49.280 mean only one thing, that you get a live low 0:00:49.800 --> 0:00:54.640 Tostita's Championship Plaza at Ford Center at the Star. It 0:00:54.760 --> 0:00:59.200 is a brisk twenty six degrees in Frisco, Texas, man, 0:01:00.000 --> 0:01:04.520 and it's windy, and it feels like fifteen degrees outside. Fellows, 0:01:04.880 --> 0:01:08.920 winner has finally arrived. It took midway through February hit here, 0:01:09.400 --> 0:01:12.360 but we finally have it. And welcome to the show. 0:01:12.880 --> 0:01:17.160 Hanging with the Boys presented by Wingstop. Natan Newton, Jesse Holly, 0:01:17.319 --> 0:01:21.240 Kurt Daniels, Shining Gross. How are you Chris Beam on 0:01:21.280 --> 0:01:23.520 the ones and two is how you Fellows feeling got 0:01:23.560 --> 0:01:26.679 the Super Bowl behind us? We can start the season. 0:01:26.760 --> 0:01:30.880 We can move forward. Man, what a game? Did y'all 0:01:30.880 --> 0:01:40.200 see that coming? It's just so amazed that, uh the 0:01:40.560 --> 0:01:45.720 MVP Todd Bowls. Man, it's just amazed me how he 0:01:45.840 --> 0:01:49.960 won at a you know, African American coach on defense. Wow, 0:01:50.080 --> 0:01:55.640 that that was so great man. Yeah, that whole defense 0:01:55.640 --> 0:02:00.920 should have got MVP. Right, Yeah, we see, I know 0:02:00.960 --> 0:02:03.440 I got you stopped there like wow. But you know what, 0:02:03.920 --> 0:02:07.000 I'm talking all defense. So everything y'all talk about to day, 0:02:07.040 --> 0:02:11.919 it's gonna be about defense. For na see what you're 0:02:11.919 --> 0:02:14.480 going with this? I see yeah, this is oh yeah, 0:02:14.520 --> 0:02:16.280 this is a this is a little foreshotow and a 0:02:16.280 --> 0:02:20.560 little bit of Brady. Tom Brady is so smart. And 0:02:20.680 --> 0:02:22.880 Shannon said this yesterday when I called him, because he 0:02:22.919 --> 0:02:26.040 is the only one that responds. Everyone not smart enough 0:02:26.080 --> 0:02:28.240 to realize that I was going all defense when I 0:02:28.320 --> 0:02:34.560 call y'all, he said, he said, I'm like, wow, Shadow, 0:02:34.720 --> 0:02:37.960 did you like that defense? He like, well, that's what 0:02:38.000 --> 0:02:39.800 I called you about to talk about defense? Y'all? Are 0:02:39.840 --> 0:02:42.639 you ready? Why why nobody in the Dallas area is 0:02:42.680 --> 0:02:47.760 ready to talk about defense? Fellas, we're ready, Nate, we've 0:02:47.800 --> 0:02:50.320 been talking about all year. Have you not been on 0:02:50.360 --> 0:02:53.840 this show? It just hasn't been in a positive half. 0:02:53.919 --> 0:02:58.360 They half let me stop clouding, man, Let's have a 0:02:58.400 --> 0:03:02.120 great show. No no, no, But I like where you're 0:03:02.160 --> 0:03:04.840 going with this. I like I pick up what you're 0:03:04.880 --> 0:03:09.200 putting down and how defensively, While yes you had Tom 0:03:09.240 --> 0:03:13.400 Brady and yes he's the golden boy defensively to be 0:03:13.520 --> 0:03:16.920 able to mount up and shut down a prolific offense 0:03:16.960 --> 0:03:19.640 like the Kansas City Chiefs, I mean, despite they were 0:03:19.960 --> 0:03:22.720 missing their two tackles and their receivers dropped a ton 0:03:22.800 --> 0:03:29.400 of passes, defense won that football game. The defense shut 0:03:29.440 --> 0:03:34.120 down the most high powered offense in the National Football League. 0:03:34.320 --> 0:03:36.080 We can all agree on that there isn't an offense 0:03:36.120 --> 0:03:41.920 that's more high powered, more ready to score points and 0:03:42.040 --> 0:03:45.400 bunches than the Kansas City Chiefs. And they were basically 0:03:45.400 --> 0:03:52.640 a team they played two weeks earlier, you right, and 0:03:53.680 --> 0:03:57.000 they they top bowls. To your credit what you were saying, 0:03:57.560 --> 0:04:00.760 they put together a masterful game plan. Man, you know, 0:04:00.840 --> 0:04:03.440 it seems just so. And I'm going when you going, 0:04:03.560 --> 0:04:06.200 Nate to have linebackers that can run and play and 0:04:06.760 --> 0:04:09.600 you know, tackle and not have to do a dance 0:04:09.720 --> 0:04:11.680 move out to every single play, but just get back 0:04:11.720 --> 0:04:13.280 up and line up and go to business, you know, 0:04:13.480 --> 0:04:15.560 go back to work. I mean to have guys in 0:04:15.600 --> 0:04:17.600 the secondary to be able to do something that they 0:04:17.600 --> 0:04:20.560 were doing. Then your guys up front, they their benefits. 0:04:20.560 --> 0:04:22.920 When you know that behind you, my guys are gonna 0:04:22.920 --> 0:04:24.560 be able to cover and be able to tackle. I 0:04:24.560 --> 0:04:26.720 could pin my ear backs, my ears back and just 0:04:26.960 --> 0:04:29.240 go to work up front. And we saw it on 0:04:29.400 --> 0:04:32.040 display on all three levels defensively for the temp Me 0:04:32.120 --> 0:04:37.760 Buccaneers in that Super Bowl game. I just that was 0:04:37.800 --> 0:04:40.279 something that I was kind of surprised about. Jesse, you 0:04:40.320 --> 0:04:43.320 mentioned those linebackers. I mean, you know, the front flour 0:04:43.440 --> 0:04:46.320 is getting a lot of publicity for obviously they played 0:04:46.320 --> 0:04:49.200 a great game and put that pressure on on the Homes. 0:04:49.240 --> 0:04:52.039 But I was just surprised. I really didn't know those 0:04:52.080 --> 0:04:54.560 guys very well, but just to see how fast they were, 0:04:54.640 --> 0:04:57.160 how physical they were, they could, you know, come up 0:04:57.160 --> 0:04:58.880 for the run or drop back for the past. I 0:04:58.880 --> 0:05:01.640 mean it, I don't know. In some ways, I kind 0:05:01.680 --> 0:05:04.640 of thought maybe the Cowboys were okay and linebacker and 0:05:05.200 --> 0:05:07.320 you know, they really needed to fortify that front. They 0:05:07.360 --> 0:05:09.960 still do, but man, what a difference it makes when 0:05:10.000 --> 0:05:11.440 you got some guys there in the middle. It can 0:05:11.480 --> 0:05:14.960 really do both. I'm telling you something, man, And Jesse, 0:05:15.160 --> 0:05:17.600 you've been in meetings like this, and I've definitely been 0:05:17.640 --> 0:05:21.240 in meetings like this when you're divas a coordinator and 0:05:21.360 --> 0:05:25.320 you're head coach, walk in and say, fellas, we're gonna 0:05:25.320 --> 0:05:28.960 bracket these two guys. They automatically told you that four 0:05:29.000 --> 0:05:32.200 guys was not going to participate in the regular game plan. 0:05:32.600 --> 0:05:35.440 We have two guys on the wide receiver, who have 0:05:35.520 --> 0:05:38.320 two guys on the tight end. The rest of y'all, 0:05:38.960 --> 0:05:42.320 y'all will have to play play the run and tag 0:05:42.360 --> 0:05:45.280 along with the pass. And when you got four guys, 0:05:45.320 --> 0:05:48.400 you can't. You cannot. You can only say that when 0:05:48.440 --> 0:05:52.159 you have four horses up front that can get it done. 0:05:53.720 --> 0:05:57.760 And they had the proper four horses up front, and 0:05:57.760 --> 0:06:01.440 and on, and one guy played with with with seven fingers. 0:06:03.200 --> 0:06:07.279 He played with seven fingers. Though he was assoted that 0:06:07.279 --> 0:06:10.480 that Mahomes scrambled for four hundred and ninety seven yards 0:06:10.720 --> 0:06:14.520 is like the most all season that without it, that's 0:06:14.560 --> 0:06:17.159 not even you know, gaining yards. He scrambled in the 0:06:17.160 --> 0:06:19.520 backfield four hundred and ninety seven yards in that game 0:06:19.520 --> 0:06:22.440 with all that pressure he was getting. That's just say, bro, 0:06:22.680 --> 0:06:27.000 I'm gonna tell you something, man, guess, Washington, I don't 0:06:27.040 --> 0:06:29.480 even see what they participated. They gotta beat thirty one 0:06:29.520 --> 0:06:32.080 to twenty three by this team. New Orleans got a 0:06:32.120 --> 0:06:35.400 decent offense. They got beat thirty one twenty Green Bay 0:06:35.520 --> 0:06:38.000 thirty one twenty and that's with three interceptions by the 0:06:38.080 --> 0:06:41.279 quarterback in the second half they was only able to monitor. 0:06:41.560 --> 0:06:43.800 And then this thing that they did. One of the 0:06:43.839 --> 0:06:48.400 greatest young quarterbacks we've seen in a long time. I mean, 0:06:48.440 --> 0:06:50.280 but it's too bad. We're gonna they're gonna get cherry 0:06:50.320 --> 0:06:52.160 picked because they won't be doing that again on defense, 0:06:52.160 --> 0:06:55.040 because they gonna get took They got two guys, Burrett 0:06:55.080 --> 0:06:58.840 and another guy as free agents. They gonne they gonna 0:06:59.040 --> 0:07:02.520 Kyle does free. I mean, like you said, they had 0:07:02.640 --> 0:07:06.200 two guys on taking out Hill, they had two guys 0:07:06.240 --> 0:07:11.440 taken out well. I mean, why couldn't Kansas City, I 0:07:11.440 --> 0:07:13.320 mean there had to be somebody open. I mean, why 0:07:13.320 --> 0:07:15.080 couldn't they go to that short passing round? I mean, 0:07:15.120 --> 0:07:19.080 what was it? Just just too much pressure? It was it? 0:07:19.240 --> 0:07:23.880 See from the first play, from the first play, they 0:07:23.880 --> 0:07:26.160 tried to run a screen and they was on him, 0:07:26.280 --> 0:07:29.000 like Barrett was on the fifty eight. Like nah, we 0:07:29.040 --> 0:07:31.480 ain't giving up screens, we ain't giving up the shorts. 0:07:31.520 --> 0:07:35.600 And then they was like, okay, we're going to bracket 0:07:35.640 --> 0:07:38.480 these guys. So when you bracket the guy, you take 0:07:38.520 --> 0:07:42.160 away virtually, you take away Kelsey out of the middle 0:07:42.160 --> 0:07:44.760 of the field and all those things where teams were 0:07:44.800 --> 0:07:47.360 given where we'll let him catch it in front of us. Well, 0:07:47.440 --> 0:07:50.000 he's a beast to tackle and he can get down 0:07:50.000 --> 0:07:52.120 to see me. He can run, so you take away 0:07:52.120 --> 0:07:54.800 the shore, ending long on him and Hill. Now you 0:07:54.920 --> 0:07:59.240 asking guys that are twos and threes to beat these 0:07:59.280 --> 0:08:02.800 other guys. And they felt they choose the threes were 0:08:02.880 --> 0:08:07.120 equal because their number two quarterback is only a Burnham 0:08:07.200 --> 0:08:09.720 I mean rob wire receive. He's only just to get 0:08:09.760 --> 0:08:11.720 down the field guy. So when he was trying to 0:08:11.720 --> 0:08:16.120 throw them along and they're all over him, that wasn't happening. Uh. 0:08:16.160 --> 0:08:18.880 Their offensive line, I think they had a herd offensive line. 0:08:19.160 --> 0:08:21.280 That's no excuse you to the Super Bowl now, baby, 0:08:21.280 --> 0:08:23.280 you don't be coverd and the COVID and everything as 0:08:23.280 --> 0:08:26.679 it's time the ball. So yeah, how much a factor 0:08:26.720 --> 0:08:28.680 did that play though? I mean Ken City lost their 0:08:29.360 --> 0:08:35.520 their left tack fisher. They lost him in the Yeah, 0:08:35.559 --> 0:08:37.559 I think it had I think it had some factor 0:08:37.640 --> 0:08:41.040 in it. But the thing that's this Ken City office 0:08:41.120 --> 0:08:45.080 is predicated on, it's the big play. And they they 0:08:45.480 --> 0:08:48.680 almost they pull you to deep waters and let you 0:08:48.800 --> 0:08:50.800 drown with the big plays and they and they want 0:08:50.840 --> 0:08:55.640 you to match their big playability and most teams can't. 0:08:55.679 --> 0:08:58.560 But when the big play isn't happening, and the thing 0:08:58.600 --> 0:09:01.839 that usually gets you going and the short game is 0:09:01.880 --> 0:09:06.240 Travis Kelsey getting throughout this entire year, he's been unguardable. 0:09:06.280 --> 0:09:08.880 So when your big players are not happening, and they 0:09:08.920 --> 0:09:11.200 had a couple of them where you know, Pat was 0:09:11.240 --> 0:09:13.760 just a little bit off, and that's because the rush 0:09:13.840 --> 0:09:16.040 was coming and he wasn't able to set and throw. Um. 0:09:16.400 --> 0:09:18.199 There was about three or four of them that if 0:09:18.240 --> 0:09:21.400 he was able to connect, would have been touchdowns, and 0:09:21.440 --> 0:09:23.520 then that would have put you in that foot race 0:09:23.559 --> 0:09:26.360 again and say, all right, now they're up twenty one seven, 0:09:26.480 --> 0:09:29.480 or they're up twenty one's fourteen or twenty one all 0:09:29.840 --> 0:09:32.600 and and and it's a battle back and forth, and they'll, 0:09:32.720 --> 0:09:35.000 you know, but when that deep game is not going, 0:09:35.040 --> 0:09:36.760 when they can't when they can't hit you over the 0:09:36.760 --> 0:09:40.000 head with the long passes and stuff like that. Then 0:09:40.040 --> 0:09:43.199 they go and look, say, okay, let's find Travis Kelsey 0:09:43.360 --> 0:09:46.920 in the middle, because those receivers have lifted the defense. 0:09:46.960 --> 0:09:49.440 They have run these order routes, and now the defense 0:09:49.559 --> 0:09:53.520 is lifted. Now I got which all year long, Travis 0:09:53.559 --> 0:09:56.920 Kelsey has been unguardable underneath. And I'll take my matchups 0:09:56.960 --> 0:09:59.000 all day long. I don't care if it's a Devin White, 0:09:59.040 --> 0:10:01.839 I don't care if it's whatever the linebacker you want 0:10:01.840 --> 0:10:05.760 to name. I like my chances with Travis Kelsey against 0:10:05.760 --> 0:10:08.800 that linebacker. And they just said, listen, we're not giving 0:10:08.840 --> 0:10:11.280 that to you. And if you're gonna connect with number 0:10:11.640 --> 0:10:14.640 receiver number two or three down the field, that we'll 0:10:14.679 --> 0:10:16.880 live with that. But we're not gonna let Tyreek Hill 0:10:17.160 --> 0:10:19.280 give us the peace on all day long and rush 0:10:19.400 --> 0:10:21.520 and have two hundred and thirty yards receiving like he 0:10:21.559 --> 0:10:23.720 did in the first matchup. And we're not gonna let 0:10:23.720 --> 0:10:25.960 Travis Kelsey have one hundred and fifty yards like he 0:10:26.000 --> 0:10:28.680 did in the first matchup. We're gonna take these two 0:10:28.679 --> 0:10:30.200 guys out and you don't even have to beat us 0:10:30.200 --> 0:10:32.280 with the running game because we trust our front four 0:10:32.880 --> 0:10:36.920 or Pringle or one of these other guys. These secondary 0:10:36.960 --> 0:10:39.240 guys will have to beat us, but these two guys 0:10:39.720 --> 0:10:41.520 won't be able to beat us. And they just couldn't 0:10:41.559 --> 0:10:44.680 connect on that, and and they bank on that, They 0:10:44.800 --> 0:10:46.760 bank on being able to say, you guys are in 0:10:46.800 --> 0:10:49.600 a foot race, and we are much better and much 0:10:49.640 --> 0:10:52.920 more equipped for foot race, and then you know, one 0:10:52.960 --> 0:10:56.080 hundred yard dash than most teams are. They could never 0:10:56.120 --> 0:11:02.200 get it going. And Tom Brady is so methodical. When 0:11:02.200 --> 0:11:05.440 you watched that two minute drive right before the half, 0:11:07.679 --> 0:11:11.840 it takes me back to when the Cowboys played the 0:11:11.880 --> 0:11:17.160 Patriots in New England and then they methodically walked us 0:11:17.160 --> 0:11:19.120 down the field and they scored a touchdown and threw 0:11:19.160 --> 0:11:22.880 a touchdown pass to Aaron Hernandez was six seconds left. 0:11:23.760 --> 0:11:26.400 The very next year, I'm in New England and just 0:11:26.440 --> 0:11:31.720 so happened that we're reviewing that game and to hear 0:11:31.840 --> 0:11:35.040 the backstory of how they knew they wanted to have 0:11:35.120 --> 0:11:38.160 the ball in that position to win a game with 0:11:38.240 --> 0:11:40.439 the time and how much time they were going to 0:11:40.600 --> 0:11:44.360 leave on the clock for the opposing team, and I 0:11:44.400 --> 0:11:47.040 just had a flashback because they said, we want to 0:11:47.120 --> 0:11:49.079 leave you with ten seconds or less when you get 0:11:49.120 --> 0:11:52.439 the ball back. That Dallas game, there were six seconds 0:11:52.520 --> 0:11:55.439 left when they got the ball back after that touchdown 0:11:55.480 --> 0:11:56.920 to try to you know, come back and win the game. 0:11:57.480 --> 0:12:00.080 We couldn't. And then before the half you saw the 0:12:00.080 --> 0:12:02.400 City got the ball like six or seventh's let to 0:12:02.440 --> 0:12:05.480 go and a half And that was that, Like Tom 0:12:05.559 --> 0:12:09.080 Brady is so good at that. He's so good at that, 0:12:09.160 --> 0:12:12.840 And that to me was really the nail in the coffin. 0:12:12.960 --> 0:12:14.720 Like before the second half we started, I was like, 0:12:14.840 --> 0:12:17.880 this is it. Like if they score here, this is it. 0:12:17.960 --> 0:12:21.000 Because even if Kansas City comes back out and scoring 0:12:21.200 --> 0:12:23.439 in the third quarter, you gotta give a ball back 0:12:23.440 --> 0:12:26.800 to Tom Brady and he's going to systematically walk you 0:12:26.880 --> 0:12:30.000 down and burn up as much clock as he can. 0:12:30.440 --> 0:12:33.040 He's not going to turn the ball over and they're 0:12:33.080 --> 0:12:35.760 just gonna find a way to smother you and suffocate you. 0:12:35.840 --> 0:12:37.920 And they did that in the second half, and man, 0:12:37.960 --> 0:12:40.199 it was it was. It was a great defensive effort 0:12:40.520 --> 0:12:43.280 by Tampa Bay. It it was fun to watch defensively. 0:12:43.559 --> 0:12:49.080 You do a real quick insanity check on this show. 0:12:49.240 --> 0:12:52.440 I just want to do, is there anyone on this 0:12:52.480 --> 0:12:57.280 show that does not agree with me? Thinking that Tom 0:12:57.320 --> 0:13:01.880 Brady is hands down the greatest NFL quarterback of all time. 0:13:02.240 --> 0:13:07.120 Does anyone disagree with that? On the show? I mean, 0:13:08.080 --> 0:13:11.160 they has a guy who won list may have, he 0:13:11.200 --> 0:13:15.840 may have. Let me let me say this right here, man, 0:13:16.480 --> 0:13:21.760 let me say this right here. When you have a 0:13:21.880 --> 0:13:27.480 guy like Leonard Fournette that everybody in the league kicked 0:13:27.600 --> 0:13:33.320 to the curb except one guy, h tom Brady told 0:13:33.400 --> 0:13:36.200 him right before the playoffs, get your hard hat on. 0:13:37.320 --> 0:13:39.240 Let's getting it. You would be in the film room 0:13:39.240 --> 0:13:42.800 with me. You would not leave the field until I 0:13:42.920 --> 0:13:47.120 lead the field out of practice. And because I need you, 0:13:48.040 --> 0:13:50.680 I need you to brain they linebackers down. We don't 0:13:50.679 --> 0:13:52.679 want to worry about taking the top off and getting 0:13:52.679 --> 0:13:54.880 the linebackers deep. I want you to bring them so 0:13:55.040 --> 0:13:58.360 I can work with Grunk and with Antonio Brown across 0:13:58.440 --> 0:14:02.600 that middle. And he worked with these guys, and you 0:14:02.720 --> 0:14:07.439 heard a story after story after story all week of 0:14:07.840 --> 0:14:11.839 tom Brady said this. Tom Brady told me this. Tom 0:14:11.880 --> 0:14:14.880 Brady calmed me like this, And I'm saying to myself, 0:14:15.800 --> 0:14:21.040 Jenna Uninus, move over, baby, you've met your match. Montana, 0:14:21.600 --> 0:14:24.960 move over, man, give him some room. You've got a 0:14:25.000 --> 0:14:29.680 guy that thinks like you think. And Dion Santas told 0:14:29.680 --> 0:14:32.960 me seven or eight years ago, he said the master, 0:14:33.120 --> 0:14:35.880 he said, nope, everybody get killed for doing this. And 0:14:35.960 --> 0:14:39.160 Tom Brady been doing it for twenty years now, dinking 0:14:39.320 --> 0:14:43.520 and duncan and taking what the defense give him, and 0:14:43.640 --> 0:14:47.600 he wins game. And we criticize every other quarterback for 0:14:47.760 --> 0:14:51.400 managing games, but we don't. We don't. We don't criticize 0:14:51.440 --> 0:14:54.520 the goat. Just think about it now. He would deep 0:14:54.640 --> 0:14:58.960 and dunk you down the field and nobody says nothing, Oh, 0:14:59.040 --> 0:15:01.280 he don't have a long game. Well, you threw more 0:15:01.320 --> 0:15:03.960 long balls than anybody. But when he needed a deacon 0:15:04.040 --> 0:15:07.240 dunk against Green Bay, he did it. When he needed 0:15:07.240 --> 0:15:10.720 a deacon dunk against this uh team here, he did it. 0:15:10.760 --> 0:15:13.880 You heard Jesse say eighty five years ago against Datasy 0:15:13.960 --> 0:15:18.840 dincon dunked. Come on, man, yeah, win the game. His 0:15:19.360 --> 0:15:21.800 stats in that game were pretty pedestrian overall. I mean, 0:15:21.800 --> 0:15:23.880 you're exactly right, he takes what the defense gives you. 0:15:24.000 --> 0:15:26.360 But the thing that impressed me through that whole week, 0:15:26.440 --> 0:15:28.280 like he said, night you heard these stories come out 0:15:28.280 --> 0:15:30.840 about him, you know, send him text to players. I 0:15:30.880 --> 0:15:34.440 think one guy was crying after the FC championship or 0:15:34.440 --> 0:15:37.000 the yeah, the champion NFC championship, And he said, you 0:15:37.040 --> 0:15:39.600 know they stop it, no crying. We still got a 0:15:39.640 --> 0:15:42.240 game to win, you know. And it made me wonder, 0:15:42.320 --> 0:15:46.960 you know, that's the kind of leadership. You wonder if 0:15:46.960 --> 0:15:49.680 the Cowboys have you know, and how long have they 0:15:49.720 --> 0:15:53.080 not had it? But you know, again, he's the He's 0:15:53.080 --> 0:15:55.960 the greatest. And anything he says, guys are gonna listen. 0:15:56.040 --> 0:15:57.800 Maybe he's got the skins on the wall, where like 0:15:58.040 --> 0:16:01.240 nobody in Dallas really has that. I'm gonna tell you something. 0:16:01.280 --> 0:16:04.840 I'm gonna tell you something. Man, Troy Aikman had it 0:16:05.560 --> 0:16:10.440 even when we were losing. It's called that unbreakable will 0:16:11.960 --> 0:16:15.200 that when I walked through those doors, no matter what 0:16:15.280 --> 0:16:19.400 I've done off the field, when I walked through these 0:16:19.440 --> 0:16:22.960 doors of the place that I'm employed at, my whole 0:16:23.000 --> 0:16:26.240 attitude changed. And for those eight to nine or maybe 0:16:26.240 --> 0:16:30.000 ten hours you're there, all you see is football in 0:16:30.120 --> 0:16:34.760 me and right, Tom Brady has the skins. But this 0:16:34.880 --> 0:16:37.800 is something he even told his owner when they drafted him. 0:16:37.960 --> 0:16:43.520 He said, I'm something special. You will enjoy me while 0:16:43.560 --> 0:16:47.080 I'm here. He told his owner that he said I 0:16:47.080 --> 0:16:50.960 would give you all that I got. So cowboys had 0:16:51.000 --> 0:16:52.840 that sense, akeman, I mean, did you see that kind 0:16:52.840 --> 0:16:55.800 of stuff in Romo Jesse Earton? Do we see it 0:16:55.840 --> 0:17:04.520 in Dak Yes? Um, But there's different degrees of it. 0:17:05.600 --> 0:17:07.880 And again, Tom, you know, only Tom Brady can tell 0:17:07.880 --> 0:17:10.440 a guy, hey, who's never been to the championship. We've 0:17:10.440 --> 0:17:13.800 never been to bow, We've never want an NFSC championship. Hey, listen, 0:17:14.280 --> 0:17:17.080 don't don't cry. We ain't done. Like I know, this 0:17:17.160 --> 0:17:18.840 is probably the pinnacle of where you've been at in 0:17:18.880 --> 0:17:21.600 your career. But I'm just here to tell you this 0:17:21.680 --> 0:17:24.879 is this is number ten for me, so I know, 0:17:25.000 --> 0:17:26.439 I know what it's going to take to win this 0:17:26.520 --> 0:17:28.840 against that team. So dry your eyes. We still got 0:17:28.840 --> 0:17:31.240 work to do. And in that moment, you know, you 0:17:31.280 --> 0:17:33.320 look at this guy and you go, oh, snap, he 0:17:33.320 --> 0:17:35.000 knows what he's talking about, and you kind of, you know, 0:17:35.040 --> 0:17:37.920 you kind of lock in. It's a different story when 0:17:38.000 --> 0:17:39.879 the guys that you're trying to go to battle with 0:17:40.160 --> 0:17:42.640 they're all on the same page in the sense of, 0:17:43.400 --> 0:17:47.159 you know, Tony could never tell a guy hey, don't no, no, listen, 0:17:48.240 --> 0:17:50.040 dry your eyes. We gotta want to sup Bowl. I 0:17:50.040 --> 0:17:51.760 know it takes to get there because he's never done it. 0:17:52.640 --> 0:17:55.800 Same you know, same thing with Dak Wow. They both 0:17:55.840 --> 0:17:59.040 have leadership. They they're all kind of on the same 0:17:59.080 --> 0:18:02.959 playing field when it comes to the elevation of playing 0:18:03.000 --> 0:18:07.160 the playoffs. Not the people around Tony Romo, the people 0:18:07.200 --> 0:18:10.960 around Dak Prescott. You know, Jason Witten couldn't tell those 0:18:11.000 --> 0:18:14.280 guys that because he never done it. So it's different 0:18:14.320 --> 0:18:16.439 when you hear it from a guy who's done it 0:18:16.480 --> 0:18:22.679 not only once, twice, six times right now, You go 0:18:22.760 --> 0:18:26.440 okay when he speaks it kind of reverberates with a 0:18:26.480 --> 0:18:30.159 different tone, you know, across the locker room, because like 0:18:30.200 --> 0:18:33.040 this is a guy who's actually done it, opposed to 0:18:33.119 --> 0:18:35.199 a guy who's saying it and you're you know, you 0:18:35.320 --> 0:18:38.359 know he means well, but you're like, yeah, dude, like 0:18:38.520 --> 0:18:40.320 enjoyed this with me, you know what I'm saying, Like 0:18:40.359 --> 0:18:43.159 we never been here before, and Tom was like, enjoyed 0:18:43.200 --> 0:18:45.080 this little moment, but we got we got a bigger picture. 0:18:45.359 --> 0:18:47.520 Let me ask you this right here, And this is 0:18:47.520 --> 0:18:51.280 a question to all you guys. I see Tom Brady 0:18:51.320 --> 0:18:55.520 and a few commercials, but I might ask you this 0:18:55.640 --> 0:18:58.480 right here. And it's no bar but nobody because we 0:18:58.680 --> 0:19:04.440 all make money off of the Dallas Cowboys. But during 0:19:04.440 --> 0:19:07.840 the offseason, every time we hear about Tom Brady, it's 0:19:07.880 --> 0:19:12.800 in connection to what is it football? Or is in 0:19:12.840 --> 0:19:17.439 connection to other things? Who got in trouble this past offseason, 0:19:18.400 --> 0:19:25.440 the most trouble for breaking COVID rules. He did he did. 0:19:25.520 --> 0:19:27.840 Now we saw Dak try to do the same thing, 0:19:28.440 --> 0:19:31.159 but it was just out of control when Tom Brady 0:19:31.240 --> 0:19:34.240 was taking these guys to not his home but to 0:19:34.680 --> 0:19:38.639 a football field, high school football field. Every time you 0:19:38.720 --> 0:19:41.520 hear tom Brady, even when you hear the bat oh 0:19:41.560 --> 0:19:44.639 he massaged the footballs, what was it in connection with? 0:19:45.960 --> 0:19:48.399 You don't have enough guys on this team, And I 0:19:48.400 --> 0:19:51.119 can honestly say this, you know, and don't worry about it. 0:19:51.320 --> 0:19:56.080 They don't love the game enough to to step up 0:19:56.080 --> 0:19:58.600 to somebody and say this is what you should do. 0:19:59.400 --> 0:20:02.639 People that the game stays around the game, you know, 0:20:03.400 --> 0:20:06.159 And I, like I told people, I didn't understand and 0:20:06.440 --> 0:20:10.360 truly appreciate the game until late in my career. So 0:20:10.480 --> 0:20:13.000 it can happen for everybody. But you got to have 0:20:13.160 --> 0:20:16.320 enough horses around you that's pulling in the right direction. 0:20:16.520 --> 0:20:18.199 So when that one get out of line, just like 0:20:18.440 --> 0:20:20.760 you know, Bob slip. You know you got a dog 0:20:20.800 --> 0:20:22.879 that's behind you in the back, that know what's going on, 0:20:22.920 --> 0:20:24.640 and one in the front. So if you get out 0:20:24.640 --> 0:20:26.640 of line with that one that's in the front that's 0:20:26.640 --> 0:20:28.600 putting that one in the back, gonna snip your heels 0:20:28.600 --> 0:20:31.359 and get you back in the line. Ain't no hells snippers, hill, Bro, 0:20:32.520 --> 0:20:35.040 Dad can lead all he wanted. He got no hells snippers. Bro, 0:20:38.480 --> 0:20:42.840 what's wrong? What's a laughing? I'm trying to be I 0:20:42.880 --> 0:20:45.840 like that analogy. I like that that is that should 0:20:45.840 --> 0:20:48.399 be a headline. Nick should write that this year the 0:20:48.520 --> 0:20:53.399 Cowboys ain't got no hell snippers. That would get some 0:20:53.520 --> 0:20:55.320 that would get some clicks. All right, I tell you 0:20:55.359 --> 0:20:58.000 what you brought this up date. We'll let We'll let 0:20:58.119 --> 0:21:01.000 Kurt get into it when we come back. Talked about 0:21:01.000 --> 0:21:04.919 the off season breaking breaking protocol. There's gonna be a 0:21:04.920 --> 0:21:06.959 lot of talk about how they handled the off season 0:21:07.040 --> 0:21:11.280 this year with the handled it handled it last year. 0:21:12.080 --> 0:21:15.320 The president of the NFLPA came out back at the 0:21:15.400 --> 0:21:19.240 I believe the end of December and talked about how 0:21:19.720 --> 0:21:23.080 they should have less of a off season program. Because 0:21:23.080 --> 0:21:26.160 it was beneficial and then listed a lot of reasons 0:21:26.160 --> 0:21:30.800 why I want to get y'all's take on this, and Kurt, 0:21:31.400 --> 0:21:33.679 get your notebook ready because you got all the talking 0:21:33.720 --> 0:21:35.639 points on this one. So we'll turn it over to you. 0:21:35.680 --> 0:21:37.520 But let's let's talk about it because it's a very 0:21:37.520 --> 0:21:41.520 interesting conversation and I think we're gonna have different points 0:21:41.520 --> 0:21:43.280 of view on it. So stay tuned. We'll get into that. 0:21:43.320 --> 0:21:44.760 We'll get into a lot more when we come back 0:21:44.800 --> 0:21:46.359 to take our first break. We'll be right back on 0:21:46.440 --> 0:21:50.479 Hey with the boys. He's your family, a Cowboys family. 0:21:50.840 --> 0:21:54.440 Have you taken holiday photos at the start? Was your 0:21:54.440 --> 0:21:58.439 wedding theme? Blue and silver? 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