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Speaker 1: Welcome to Stuff you Should Know, a production of iHeartRadio. Hey,

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Speaker 1: and welcome to the podcast. I'm Josh, and there's Chuck

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Speaker 1: and Jerry's here too, and that makes this Stuff you

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Speaker 1: should Know, Good Old Fashion Explainer Edition. Yeah, it feels

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Speaker 1: like a throwback. Yes it does. I can't cannot believe

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Speaker 1: we did not do this already. I agree. And my

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Speaker 1: stomach may have just been so loud that the microphone

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Speaker 1: picked it up. I didn't hear it, but I want

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Speaker 1: to hear it in the edit if it did. Oh geez, wow,

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Speaker 1: my mouth. I know, no, I already eight. You know,

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Speaker 1: sometimes when you have a really empty stomach and you

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Speaker 1: put I made one of my my good hot bone broths,

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Speaker 1: icy bone broths, and then for the next thirty minutes,

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Speaker 1: your stomachs just like screaming like what is that? Or

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Speaker 1: it's thank you? Yeah, maybe thank you. I wish I

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Speaker 1: knew my whole life. I wish I knew what my

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Speaker 1: stomach was saying to me. What is your sphincter saying?

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Speaker 1: You can usually tell us what you can usually tell

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Speaker 1: how your stomach is feeling based on your sphincter. Sphincter,

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Speaker 1: don't lie, Oh man is that a truism or what, Yes,

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Speaker 1: it is, sphincter's gonna spink yep it spinker's fine. That's

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Speaker 1: then I think your stomach saying thank you. Okay, so

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Speaker 1: we are moving on, Chuck, We're gonna move on. We're

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Speaker 1: talking about skydiving today, and like I said, I'm surprised

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Speaker 1: we hadn't done it already. Um. I met a guy

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Speaker 1: who has I think he founded like one of the

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Speaker 1: Navy's um skydiving clubs. And here's a very nice man

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Speaker 1: and asked if we'd ever done skydiving before, and I

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Speaker 1: said I don't know, and I looked and sure enough

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Speaker 1: we didn't. So here we are doing skydiving, and I

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Speaker 1: think it's pretty appropriate. Well, first, have you ever skydived?

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Speaker 1: I can't remember. No, I have not. And it's the

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Speaker 1: kind of thing that like, I'm totally game to do.

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Speaker 1: But I don't see myself making that initiative. But if

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Speaker 1: someone got something together, I'd be like, yeah, trurell, I'll

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Speaker 1: jump out of a plane. I think that's how it

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Speaker 1: typically happens. It's like a group and there's one like

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Speaker 1: have not of course, no, I have I have Oh wait,

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Speaker 1: I feel like we talked about this. What have you done?

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Speaker 1: I went up to thirteen thousand feet and jumped out

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Speaker 1: of a plane tandem. It was it was so so

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Speaker 1: scary the way up. Everybody's laughing and joking and I

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Speaker 1: was just quiet, and somebody looked over him. He's like, Josh,

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Speaker 1: your knuckles are pretty white. And I was like, that's

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Speaker 1: super funny, right, And I was like, I don't think

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Speaker 1: I even responded to that. I was too nervous. And

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Speaker 1: we got up to thirteen thousand feet and I had

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Speaker 1: this giant dude strapped to my back. Yeah, that's what

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Speaker 1: you want. And We're kneeling together at the opening of

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Speaker 1: this plane and I'm like, I'm I'm not doing this

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Speaker 1: and he's like, yes, you are. And we were out

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Speaker 1: of the plane and I don't remember the first couple

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Speaker 1: of seconds. I think I've talked about this before. The

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Speaker 1: first couple of seconds or just my mind didn't form

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Speaker 1: we're plumbering toward the Earth and I was like, this

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Speaker 1: is pretty great. Actually, that's amazing how it was just

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Speaker 1: like twenty years ago or ten years ago, gosh, more

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Speaker 1: than twenty years ago now they think, Yeah, I was

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Speaker 1: in my early twenties, which is kind of the time

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Speaker 1: you try it usually because you have very little to

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Speaker 1: skydiving at seventy or whatever. Yeah, I just saw I

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Speaker 1: good for them. So we are talking skydiving, Chuck. I

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Speaker 1: is because it's gotten really really safe. Like I wouldn't

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Speaker 1: at all safe. But people have been skydiving and investing

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Speaker 1: But we may as well not bury the lead and

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Speaker 1: most recent year he could find something was ten fatalities

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Speaker 1: one hundred thousand, not ten per one hundred thousand, right right,

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Speaker 1: and already screwed it up. So less than a quarter

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Speaker 1: redundancies and backup shoots and all that stuff, and I'm

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Speaker 1: sure we'll probably for the avid jumper, we'll probably get

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Speaker 1: should we go back to the old days, Yes, let's

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Speaker 1: because people have been like, I want to jump off

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Speaker 1: But that doesn't mean that they knocked it out of

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Speaker 1: the park immediately. There was they didn't understand exactly how

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Speaker 1: have certainly taken hold in France. France had a lot

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Speaker 1: of early jumpers, And then we talked for sure in

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Speaker 1: But before that, the first documented jump period was way

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Speaker 1: before that, in seventeen eighty three from an observatory in France,

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Speaker 1: And it seems like the French were just always experimenting

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Speaker 1: with you know, sort of the rigid like wooden framed

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Speaker 1: skydiving is like. The origin of skydiving came from a

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Speaker 1: carnival act, yeah, where a guy named Charles Broadwick whose

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Speaker 1: way around was it? No, neither one of them are

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Speaker 1: But I guess he did. He thought John Murray didn't

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Speaker 1: that little suspicion is raised. It is definitely. But or

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Speaker 1: to it, for sure, But the Milly obviously is where

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Speaker 1: They also came up with what's called the static line.

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Speaker 1: isn't for thrills. This is for getting you behind enemy lines, right,

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Speaker 1: So they deploy their parachute immediately, and the static line

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Speaker 1: a feeling that's what happened. I wouldn't be surprised if

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Speaker 1: But I believe sites jumped down as the very first

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Speaker 1: because Florida is actually like kind of a huge state

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Speaker 1: Red Maple Leaf, Florida. But the sixties is when it

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Speaker 1: training that are going to get you to the same place.

425
00:23:10,680 --> 00:23:13,959
Speaker 1: Which is a Class A license from the United States

426
00:23:14,000 --> 00:23:19,280
Speaker 1: Parachuting association. Yeah, and I a D is one instructor

427
00:23:19,280 --> 00:23:22,720
Speaker 1: assisted deployment, and then AFF seems like the way more

428
00:23:22,720 --> 00:23:28,600
Speaker 1: common one, which is accelerated freefall. Accelerate freefalls when an

429
00:23:28,600 --> 00:23:31,880
Speaker 1: instructor jumps out with you, but not tandem style. They're

430
00:23:31,920 --> 00:23:34,600
Speaker 1: not attached to you, but they're with you kind of

431
00:23:34,600 --> 00:23:38,360
Speaker 1: making sure everything goes great, but you're you're in control

432
00:23:38,400 --> 00:23:41,320
Speaker 1: of everything. I still don't quite get what I a

433
00:23:41,520 --> 00:23:46,280
Speaker 1: D is. Are they Is that a static line thing? Yes,

434
00:23:46,400 --> 00:23:49,320
Speaker 1: So the instructor acts as the static line. They have

435
00:23:49,359 --> 00:23:52,479
Speaker 1: your parachute and they are staying on the plane and

436
00:23:52,520 --> 00:23:56,720
Speaker 1: when you jump out, they pull your shoote so immediately.

437
00:23:56,880 --> 00:23:59,920
Speaker 1: So your first several it isn't fun. It's very deliberate.

438
00:24:00,119 --> 00:24:04,280
Speaker 1: They want to teach you like landing essentially U first,

439
00:24:04,440 --> 00:24:06,680
Speaker 1: So your first jump is at like thirty five hundred

440
00:24:06,760 --> 00:24:09,480
Speaker 1: feet which is really low, and then you just move

441
00:24:09,560 --> 00:24:11,880
Speaker 1: yourself up and up and up, and then I think

442
00:24:11,880 --> 00:24:14,600
Speaker 1: with both courses, after about six jumps, you finally make

443
00:24:14,640 --> 00:24:18,920
Speaker 1: your first solo freefall jump. Okay, And that's the goal

444
00:24:19,200 --> 00:24:21,680
Speaker 1: for most people if they want to really get into it, yeah,

445
00:24:21,840 --> 00:24:23,720
Speaker 1: is to just be able to go to a place

446
00:24:24,440 --> 00:24:26,720
Speaker 1: I imagine you have to pay them a little something, right,

447
00:24:26,920 --> 00:24:30,080
Speaker 1: you have to sign over your first born. Well, you

448
00:24:30,080 --> 00:24:32,639
Speaker 1: have to pay for the plane and stuff. But even

449
00:24:32,680 --> 00:24:36,840
Speaker 1: if you have all your own gear, they're still fees involved. Yes, Um,

450
00:24:37,320 --> 00:24:40,280
Speaker 1: I think I calculated about thirty five hundred bucks, which

451
00:24:40,320 --> 00:24:42,479
Speaker 1: from what I saw it looks pretty right to me. Um,

452
00:24:42,800 --> 00:24:45,120
Speaker 1: unless they get your light fully licensed uff right, Yes,

453
00:24:45,520 --> 00:24:48,800
Speaker 1: the course is about eighteen hundred, say two thousand, and

454
00:24:48,800 --> 00:24:51,639
Speaker 1: then to get all the way to your license, with

455
00:24:51,680 --> 00:24:53,800
Speaker 1: all the exams and all that stuff, it's about thirty

456
00:24:53,800 --> 00:24:58,200
Speaker 1: five hundred the thing. No, and equipment is expensive, as

457
00:24:58,240 --> 00:25:01,800
Speaker 1: you might assume. We're talking about equipment that keeps you alive.

458
00:25:02,400 --> 00:25:05,800
Speaker 1: So like your parachute might be a couple grand, three grand,

459
00:25:07,400 --> 00:25:12,560
Speaker 1: helmets can get pretty expensive. An altimeter is four hundred dollars,

460
00:25:12,560 --> 00:25:15,359
Speaker 1: so it starts to add up really really quickly. You

461
00:25:15,359 --> 00:25:17,560
Speaker 1: can pick up a used altimeter on that crazy. I

462
00:25:17,560 --> 00:25:21,800
Speaker 1: would sure, I would like if you if you get

463
00:25:21,840 --> 00:25:24,040
Speaker 1: into this, A word of advice for me, do not

464
00:25:24,240 --> 00:25:28,760
Speaker 1: cheep out on your equipment, in particular your altimeter. Yeah,

465
00:25:28,840 --> 00:25:31,840
Speaker 1: I would imagine. So, Um, you can go through this

466
00:25:31,880 --> 00:25:34,760
Speaker 1: whole thing, and I don't know how long it takes.

467
00:25:34,840 --> 00:25:37,480
Speaker 1: I actually didn't get a sense of that. But when

468
00:25:37,520 --> 00:25:40,479
Speaker 1: you get your license, you're like, what do you mean license?

469
00:25:40,560 --> 00:25:42,879
Speaker 1: Is the government going to come a recipe? No, But

470
00:25:42,960 --> 00:25:47,040
Speaker 1: if you show up to a skydiving place you say

471
00:25:47,040 --> 00:25:48,720
Speaker 1: I want to jump, they'll say, well, we need to

472
00:25:48,720 --> 00:25:51,760
Speaker 1: see your license, and if you have your a license

473
00:25:51,840 --> 00:25:54,359
Speaker 1: on you, they'll say, hop aboard and you can pack

474
00:25:54,359 --> 00:25:56,639
Speaker 1: your own parachute. You can do jumps. I think you

475
00:25:56,680 --> 00:26:00,879
Speaker 1: can do water jumps, which seems like I don't know.

476
00:26:00,960 --> 00:26:04,119
Speaker 1: I guess water jumps are probably really difficult because you

477
00:26:04,160 --> 00:26:09,240
Speaker 1: can get wrapped up and sink if you're not careful. Yeah, right,

478
00:26:09,680 --> 00:26:13,800
Speaker 1: what was the um? There was some action movie where

479
00:26:13,960 --> 00:26:17,359
Speaker 1: dude dejects from a plane and lands and water and

480
00:26:17,440 --> 00:26:20,600
Speaker 1: like has to like it's lost consciousness and has to

481
00:26:20,640 --> 00:26:24,879
Speaker 1: come to and get out of the parachute UM rigging.

482
00:26:25,400 --> 00:26:28,560
Speaker 1: So I think the first top gun. I mean that's

483
00:26:28,560 --> 00:26:31,600
Speaker 1: how Goose died. Right, Yes, this person survives. I keep

484
00:26:31,600 --> 00:26:34,000
Speaker 1: seeing Bruce Willis, but I don't think it was Bruce Willis.

485
00:26:34,920 --> 00:26:36,720
Speaker 1: I don't know, but you were you were saying, you

486
00:26:36,720 --> 00:26:38,600
Speaker 1: don't know how long you can get this class eight,

487
00:26:38,760 --> 00:26:41,959
Speaker 1: how long it takes you need twenty five freefall jumps,

488
00:26:42,640 --> 00:26:48,000
Speaker 1: five group dump group jumps, and some other training. So

489
00:26:48,440 --> 00:26:51,399
Speaker 1: I would imagine even if you're really eager and cooking

490
00:26:52,160 --> 00:26:56,800
Speaker 1: like this takes a matter of months. Yeah, that seems

491
00:26:56,400 --> 00:26:59,560
Speaker 1: to get all those in. Yeah, for sure. I guess

492
00:26:59,600 --> 00:27:01,840
Speaker 1: you go every day if you were really like I

493
00:27:01,920 --> 00:27:05,439
Speaker 1: had to learn fast. Yeah, which I mean, that's what

494
00:27:05,480 --> 00:27:08,600
Speaker 1: I'm saying. I wonder what's the rush? Absolutely right, exactly,

495
00:27:08,720 --> 00:27:12,040
Speaker 1: Well you want that rush, that's the rush. Oh that's true. Uh,

496
00:27:12,119 --> 00:27:15,159
Speaker 1: the b license sounds interesting because you can do night jumps.

497
00:27:16,359 --> 00:27:19,160
Speaker 1: Which it's funny ED put this together person. I think

498
00:27:19,160 --> 00:27:20,679
Speaker 1: he said the night jumps was the only thing he

499
00:27:20,680 --> 00:27:22,840
Speaker 1: said that interested him, right, he says it's the only

500
00:27:22,840 --> 00:27:25,639
Speaker 1: thing that that um makes him kind to want to

501
00:27:25,640 --> 00:27:28,280
Speaker 1: do this, right, is a night jump. But you have

502
00:27:28,359 --> 00:27:30,439
Speaker 1: to do you have to invest a lot before you

503
00:27:30,440 --> 00:27:33,160
Speaker 1: get into night jumps because that's your class. Is really

504
00:27:33,240 --> 00:27:36,920
Speaker 1: scary to me, it is super super scary. Um. One

505
00:27:36,960 --> 00:27:40,080
Speaker 1: thing I thought was pretty cool is the USPA has

506
00:27:40,320 --> 00:27:45,280
Speaker 1: um training uh and like kind of differently structured courses

507
00:27:45,680 --> 00:27:50,160
Speaker 1: to help people with disabilities get their licenses too, which

508
00:27:50,160 --> 00:27:54,679
Speaker 1: I thought it was pretty great. Totally. So, um, you

509
00:27:54,760 --> 00:27:58,560
Speaker 1: mentioned night diving, which sounds really cool, Like you're just

510
00:27:58,680 --> 00:28:00,600
Speaker 1: you're jumping out at night, and like, you know what

511
00:28:00,640 --> 00:28:03,000
Speaker 1: cities look like from an airplane. Imagine if there's nothing

512
00:28:03,040 --> 00:28:06,360
Speaker 1: between you and the city but air, that must be

513
00:28:06,560 --> 00:28:10,080
Speaker 1: pretty awesome, right, That's one of many things you can do.

514
00:28:10,200 --> 00:28:12,680
Speaker 1: So once people started getting into skydiving in the seventies,

515
00:28:12,680 --> 00:28:14,479
Speaker 1: they're like, how can this be more dangerous? How can

516
00:28:14,520 --> 00:28:16,280
Speaker 1: this be more thrilling? And they came up with a

517
00:28:16,280 --> 00:28:19,480
Speaker 1: lot of different interesting things. Yeah, they're like, hey, you

518
00:28:19,480 --> 00:28:21,920
Speaker 1: want to be on the evening news, why don't Why

519
00:28:21,960 --> 00:28:25,119
Speaker 1: don't thirty of us get together on the first day

520
00:28:25,160 --> 00:28:28,720
Speaker 1: of spraying and make big flowers in the air by

521
00:28:28,800 --> 00:28:32,280
Speaker 1: doing something called formation flying. Yeah, or just let's sit

522
00:28:32,320 --> 00:28:34,480
Speaker 1: around until we hit our nineties and take our seven

523
00:28:34,560 --> 00:28:38,640
Speaker 1: year old sons with us. Yeah, exactly. Formation flying or

524
00:28:38,720 --> 00:28:41,800
Speaker 1: relative work or belly flying a couple of other names.

525
00:28:41,840 --> 00:28:44,680
Speaker 1: That is when again, usually you see it on the

526
00:28:44,720 --> 00:28:47,120
Speaker 1: evening news when people go up and they all get

527
00:28:47,160 --> 00:28:50,960
Speaker 1: together to set a record or just join hands and

528
00:28:51,080 --> 00:28:52,959
Speaker 1: legs into funt shapes up in the air on their

529
00:28:53,000 --> 00:28:56,480
Speaker 1: way down. Imagine, it's a great group activity for the

530
00:28:56,640 --> 00:28:59,640
Speaker 1: enthusiast of skydiving. Yeah, you're looking up and say, oh,

531
00:28:59,640 --> 00:29:04,400
Speaker 1: it's a flower. Yeah, we do flowers last time. Gary

532
00:29:04,480 --> 00:29:07,120
Speaker 1: always wants to do flowers. When can we make the

533
00:29:07,160 --> 00:29:10,480
Speaker 1: amper sin right, I'd like to see that. So the

534
00:29:10,520 --> 00:29:13,080
Speaker 1: thing about floormation flying that's belly down right, you said,

535
00:29:14,240 --> 00:29:17,720
Speaker 1: there's another one called free flying, where it's vertically oriented,

536
00:29:17,960 --> 00:29:22,640
Speaker 1: not belly oriented, which is horizontal, and they do all

537
00:29:22,800 --> 00:29:26,040
Speaker 1: crazy looking Yes, they'll also sometimes. One of the reasons

538
00:29:26,080 --> 00:29:28,520
Speaker 1: they call it free flying is because they'll there won't

539
00:29:28,520 --> 00:29:30,880
Speaker 1: be like a plan. A group of them will kind

540
00:29:30,880 --> 00:29:33,640
Speaker 1: of hang out and just figure out together, kind of

541
00:29:33,680 --> 00:29:38,200
Speaker 1: like breakdancing but midair, except you're doing a tea party exactly. Yeah.

542
00:29:38,280 --> 00:29:41,160
Speaker 1: Or they do surfing, um, like you'll surf on somebody's back,

543
00:29:41,640 --> 00:29:45,120
Speaker 1: all sorts of really cool stuff, and you can also

544
00:29:45,200 --> 00:29:48,800
Speaker 1: get some crazy speed as we'll see. Um. There actually

545
00:29:48,920 --> 00:29:52,920
Speaker 1: is something called skysurfing where you don't use your friends back.

546
00:29:52,960 --> 00:29:56,920
Speaker 1: You actually use like a snowboard. Yeah, and you connectly

547
00:29:56,960 --> 00:29:59,800
Speaker 1: because it's a snowboard. You're suddenly putting out, like you know,

548
00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:04,280
Speaker 1: form resistance to the air, um, and that friction can

549
00:30:04,320 --> 00:30:06,720
Speaker 1: allow you to do some pretty sweet tricks. Once you

550
00:30:06,760 --> 00:30:10,560
Speaker 1: get good at skysurfing, yeah, like standing on that thing

551
00:30:10,560 --> 00:30:16,880
Speaker 1: and spinning around, yeah, or doing loop to loops in

552
00:30:16,920 --> 00:30:19,160
Speaker 1: the air. I don't know why that always cracks me up,

553
00:30:19,200 --> 00:30:23,000
Speaker 1: but skysurfing always that was kind of fun. And it

554
00:30:23,080 --> 00:30:25,120
Speaker 1: sounds like I'm making fun of it. I'm not. It's

555
00:30:25,200 --> 00:30:27,560
Speaker 1: it is cool, but I'm just trying to think of

556
00:30:27,720 --> 00:30:30,360
Speaker 1: you know, the first guy that was like, they're always

557
00:30:30,360 --> 00:30:32,840
Speaker 1: trying to combine their loves of the extreme things that

558
00:30:32,880 --> 00:30:36,040
Speaker 1: they love, you know, like let me put a wingsuit

559
00:30:36,080 --> 00:30:38,960
Speaker 1: on a motorcycle or whatever like all that. The other

560
00:30:39,000 --> 00:30:40,680
Speaker 1: people on the plane were like, why do you have

561
00:30:40,720 --> 00:30:46,920
Speaker 1: your surfboard? And he just watch. There's another one called

562
00:30:46,920 --> 00:30:51,560
Speaker 1: tracking that I thought was pretty delightful. Now, is this

563
00:30:51,640 --> 00:30:55,400
Speaker 1: just the James Bond thing. Yes, it's it's just moving

564
00:30:55,480 --> 00:31:00,800
Speaker 1: away from where you jumped out, moving away from the plane.

565
00:31:02,240 --> 00:31:06,320
Speaker 1: But that happens innately, right you move, Yes, the plane

566
00:31:06,320 --> 00:31:10,800
Speaker 1: moves away from you. This is you purposely, purposely moving

567
00:31:11,640 --> 00:31:14,840
Speaker 1: away from the plane yourself by by positioning your body

568
00:31:14,880 --> 00:31:17,320
Speaker 1: at different angles. So you're suddenly like shooting off to

569
00:31:17,360 --> 00:31:20,920
Speaker 1: the west or shooting off to the northeast. And this

570
00:31:21,000 --> 00:31:24,000
Speaker 1: is like a this is a practical skill that you

571
00:31:24,040 --> 00:31:27,800
Speaker 1: need to have just as a basic skydiver, but people

572
00:31:27,800 --> 00:31:32,160
Speaker 1: have turned it into new feats of amazingness, like how

573
00:31:32,200 --> 00:31:34,400
Speaker 1: far can you go? How fast can you get there?

574
00:31:35,560 --> 00:31:38,520
Speaker 1: Seeking through the air? Sure, like their landing spot is

575
00:31:38,560 --> 00:31:40,479
Speaker 1: a really far away, and so they try and go

576
00:31:40,520 --> 00:31:43,400
Speaker 1: as horizontally as far as they can go, yes, to

577
00:31:43,480 --> 00:31:45,880
Speaker 1: hit a certain spot. And also if you're doing formation

578
00:31:45,880 --> 00:31:48,160
Speaker 1: flying or free flying, you need to be good at

579
00:31:48,200 --> 00:31:51,040
Speaker 1: tracking because you have to get away from one another

580
00:31:51,240 --> 00:31:53,520
Speaker 1: before you deploy your shoots or else you're gonna end

581
00:31:53,600 --> 00:31:58,880
Speaker 1: up on earth sandwich together. Yeah. And speaking of speeds,

582
00:31:58,920 --> 00:32:02,840
Speaker 1: I believe the currents bead record now we said terminal

583
00:32:02,960 --> 00:32:07,960
Speaker 1: was one twenty three twenty nine miles per hour. Yeah,

584
00:32:08,440 --> 00:32:11,520
Speaker 1: is the current record for someone shooting through the air

585
00:32:11,600 --> 00:32:15,520
Speaker 1: with a straight James Bond like body. Yeah, and kilometers

586
00:32:15,560 --> 00:32:18,160
Speaker 1: per hour. That's a mind boggling number two. I'm sure

587
00:32:19,560 --> 00:32:21,320
Speaker 1: I don't quite get what cupping is. Is that just

588
00:32:21,400 --> 00:32:23,240
Speaker 1: what we did? And the wentz on a like, yes,

589
00:32:23,400 --> 00:32:27,000
Speaker 1: regular trying to resist the air. Yeah, you're you're well,

590
00:32:27,040 --> 00:32:29,640
Speaker 1: you're making like an arch out of your body and

591
00:32:29,680 --> 00:32:32,200
Speaker 1: when you do that, you kind of make yourself into

592
00:32:32,200 --> 00:32:34,959
Speaker 1: a parachute and you go up right. So let's say

593
00:32:35,160 --> 00:32:38,200
Speaker 1: you've got four other people and you just finished making

594
00:32:38,240 --> 00:32:42,400
Speaker 1: a flower to Gary's dismay, and you all need to

595
00:32:42,400 --> 00:32:45,240
Speaker 1: get away from one another. There's different ways to get away.

596
00:32:45,320 --> 00:32:47,680
Speaker 1: So Gary shoots off to the northeast. He's all mad,

597
00:32:48,080 --> 00:32:53,400
Speaker 1: you shoot off to the west able your biblical friend

598
00:32:54,080 --> 00:32:56,320
Speaker 1: and cups. So he goes upward all of a sudden

599
00:32:56,320 --> 00:32:59,080
Speaker 1: to put some vertical distance between you two. And then

600
00:32:59,600 --> 00:33:04,880
Speaker 1: Kane Abel's brother ironically right makes himself into like a

601
00:33:04,960 --> 00:33:08,479
Speaker 1: missile and shoots downwards. So now there's even more vertical

602
00:33:08,520 --> 00:33:11,480
Speaker 1: distance between all of you, vertical and horizontal distance. All

603
00:33:11,480 --> 00:33:15,280
Speaker 1: of that is considered tracking. That's so cane. Yeah, Cane's

604
00:33:15,320 --> 00:33:20,120
Speaker 1: like here I go. I mentioned the wingsuit. That is,

605
00:33:20,240 --> 00:33:23,440
Speaker 1: when you've seen the people who look like flying squirrels

606
00:33:23,440 --> 00:33:26,240
Speaker 1: in the air, it is it's a wingsuit. It's a

607
00:33:26,280 --> 00:33:31,080
Speaker 1: suit that has a webbing between the arm pits and

608
00:33:31,400 --> 00:33:35,640
Speaker 1: between your legs, and that just creates more wind resistance,

609
00:33:35,680 --> 00:33:39,800
Speaker 1: but it also creates something called a burbal in the biz,

610
00:33:39,840 --> 00:33:42,840
Speaker 1: and that is the dead air behind you, sort of

611
00:33:42,880 --> 00:33:45,920
Speaker 1: like when a race car has that dead or not

612
00:33:45,920 --> 00:33:47,640
Speaker 1: even a race car. You know, a big semi truck

613
00:33:47,680 --> 00:33:51,120
Speaker 1: on the highway, Yeah, has as an area of dead

614
00:33:51,120 --> 00:33:56,000
Speaker 1: air behind it where a car can draft for either

615
00:33:56,040 --> 00:33:58,960
Speaker 1: more speed or to use less fuel or both. But

616
00:33:59,040 --> 00:34:02,479
Speaker 1: that is a burbal in the parlance of skydiving, right,

617
00:34:02,520 --> 00:34:06,040
Speaker 1: and apparently in the verbal like wingsuiting is is a

618
00:34:06,040 --> 00:34:09,080
Speaker 1: pretty tricky thing. Obviously, it takes tons I think two

619
00:34:09,200 --> 00:34:12,240
Speaker 1: hundred dies before you're allowed to put on that squirrel suit.

620
00:34:12,960 --> 00:34:15,759
Speaker 1: But the verbal makes it hard to or just a

621
00:34:15,760 --> 00:34:19,200
Speaker 1: little trickier to get the shoot out properly in the

622
00:34:19,320 --> 00:34:24,000
Speaker 1: verbal yes, so yeah, I wingsuits sound pretty awesome, but

623
00:34:24,239 --> 00:34:28,480
Speaker 1: that's not that's well beyond my limit, I think. No, well,

624
00:34:28,520 --> 00:34:30,360
Speaker 1: you just don't wanted Scott have two hundred times to

625
00:34:30,360 --> 00:34:34,440
Speaker 1: get there? No, probably not, Probably, it's a lot. So

626
00:34:34,560 --> 00:34:36,680
Speaker 1: remember I said, tracking is like a basic thing that

627
00:34:36,719 --> 00:34:40,560
Speaker 1: people have turned into, you know, feats of amazingness. They've

628
00:34:40,640 --> 00:34:43,560
Speaker 1: they've done the same thing with the actual parachuting part

629
00:34:43,640 --> 00:34:48,279
Speaker 1: called canopy flying. There's swoopers, there's gliders, there's people who

630
00:34:48,800 --> 00:34:53,680
Speaker 1: um go on like an obstacle course over water, and

631
00:34:53,760 --> 00:34:56,359
Speaker 1: it's pretty cool. Apparently, when you swoop correctly, you make

632
00:34:56,360 --> 00:34:59,960
Speaker 1: a sound when you come in for your landing, okay,

633
00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:02,640
Speaker 1: And I've seen video of people that you can pick

634
00:35:02,719 --> 00:35:06,200
Speaker 1: up some real speed if you angle your canopy your

635
00:35:06,200 --> 00:35:09,680
Speaker 1: parachute the right way, and they'll go from like really

636
00:35:09,760 --> 00:35:13,880
Speaker 1: really fast ten feet above the ground to like almost

637
00:35:13,920 --> 00:35:17,560
Speaker 1: still with the softest landing you've ever seen, you know,

638
00:35:17,640 --> 00:35:20,279
Speaker 1: a second or two later. It's really neat. Yeah, that

639
00:35:20,440 --> 00:35:22,719
Speaker 1: is cool, and that's where a lot of the accuracy

640
00:35:23,520 --> 00:35:26,880
Speaker 1: skydive when we talked about, happens when you're a canopy

641
00:35:26,880 --> 00:35:29,200
Speaker 1: flying and you really want to nail that bull's eye.

642
00:35:29,400 --> 00:35:32,080
Speaker 1: One other thing they do that's awesome is that your

643
00:35:32,120 --> 00:35:35,799
Speaker 1: canopy has straps on the top, and sometimes a bunch

644
00:35:35,840 --> 00:35:38,600
Speaker 1: of people will coordinate so that each one's strapped in

645
00:35:38,840 --> 00:35:41,399
Speaker 1: by their feet to the canopy below them. So it's

646
00:35:41,400 --> 00:35:46,200
Speaker 1: a big chain of people skydiving, which sounds so dangerous,

647
00:35:46,280 --> 00:35:50,200
Speaker 1: but yeah, I'm sure so cool. Now the kind eye

648
00:35:50,280 --> 00:35:53,960
Speaker 1: would be interested in more so than an airplane even is.

649
00:35:54,440 --> 00:35:56,959
Speaker 1: And you need a B license for this, so there's

650
00:35:57,000 --> 00:36:00,239
Speaker 1: no getting around doing the series of steps to get there.

651
00:36:00,880 --> 00:36:05,160
Speaker 1: But the hot air balloon jump. And at first I

652
00:36:05,239 --> 00:36:07,440
Speaker 1: was like, well, who cares, what's a big deal, But

653
00:36:07,680 --> 00:36:09,239
Speaker 1: as we mentioned When you go out of that plane

654
00:36:09,239 --> 00:36:12,319
Speaker 1: in a hundred miles an hour, you've done it. I'm

655
00:36:12,360 --> 00:36:14,960
Speaker 1: and you blacked out for the first few seconds. I

656
00:36:15,280 --> 00:36:19,680
Speaker 1: imagine it's like just a big sort of violent rush

657
00:36:19,680 --> 00:36:21,880
Speaker 1: of air and sound and you don't really quite know

658
00:36:21,920 --> 00:36:24,360
Speaker 1: what's going on at first. But you jump out of

659
00:36:24,360 --> 00:36:28,279
Speaker 1: that hot air balloon, it's dead silent. You actually experience

660
00:36:28,400 --> 00:36:33,040
Speaker 1: a true freefall from the jump. Yeah, like you know,

661
00:36:33,400 --> 00:36:37,759
Speaker 1: you would on an amusement park ride, right, And the

662
00:36:37,960 --> 00:36:39,960
Speaker 1: silence of it and the stillness of it really is

663
00:36:39,960 --> 00:36:42,399
Speaker 1: appealing to me. Yeah, it's not until you start to

664
00:36:42,400 --> 00:36:45,040
Speaker 1: really pick up speed that like the air makes a

665
00:36:45,120 --> 00:36:49,000
Speaker 1: sound running past you. That's pretty cool. It does sound

666
00:36:49,000 --> 00:36:51,759
Speaker 1: pretty cool for sure. So that's called no airplane skydiving

667
00:36:51,840 --> 00:36:56,440
Speaker 1: or hot air balloon skydiving, which is pretty cool. There's

668
00:36:56,480 --> 00:36:58,840
Speaker 1: another one that's like that, but it's up way higher.

669
00:36:58,880 --> 00:37:02,040
Speaker 1: It's called space dive. And if you watch the Felix

670
00:37:02,080 --> 00:37:06,600
Speaker 1: bomb Gardener two thousand and twelve jump that I was

671
00:37:06,719 --> 00:37:09,279
Speaker 1: looking back at that. So we're talking. You know, if

672
00:37:09,320 --> 00:37:12,880
Speaker 1: you go up in your skydiving and it's uh, like

673
00:37:12,880 --> 00:37:15,919
Speaker 1: like what I did, I did thirteen thousand feet, which

674
00:37:16,000 --> 00:37:19,040
Speaker 1: is really high. You're up there so long you're freefall.

675
00:37:19,120 --> 00:37:21,920
Speaker 1: So you're following about one hundred and seventy six feet

676
00:37:22,000 --> 00:37:24,839
Speaker 1: per second, which means that you're in free fall from

677
00:37:24,880 --> 00:37:26,480
Speaker 1: the time you jump out of the plane till the

678
00:37:26,480 --> 00:37:29,200
Speaker 1: time that you you pull your rip cord or the

679
00:37:29,360 --> 00:37:32,799
Speaker 1: guy strapped to your back does m forty five to

680
00:37:32,920 --> 00:37:36,200
Speaker 1: sixty seconds of that. That sounds about right. That's at

681
00:37:36,239 --> 00:37:39,320
Speaker 1: thirteen thousand feet and then pulling it about five thousand.

682
00:37:39,440 --> 00:37:42,720
Speaker 1: So m Felix bomb Gardner jumped out at one hundred

683
00:37:42,760 --> 00:37:46,480
Speaker 1: and twenty seven thousand feet. What was his freefall? How

684
00:37:46,480 --> 00:37:49,640
Speaker 1: long was that? I think it was several minutes actually,

685
00:37:49,640 --> 00:37:53,400
Speaker 1: And remember he famously got into like this horrible tailspin

686
00:37:53,440 --> 00:37:55,360
Speaker 1: that they're like, well this guy might be a goner.

687
00:37:56,040 --> 00:37:59,279
Speaker 1: But even more impressive than that, he entered he hit

688
00:37:59,400 --> 00:38:02,080
Speaker 1: mock one point two five, which means he broke the

689
00:38:02,120 --> 00:38:03,880
Speaker 1: sound barrier. He was the first person to do it

690
00:38:03,920 --> 00:38:07,480
Speaker 1: without a plane, and he which is about eight hundred

691
00:38:07,520 --> 00:38:10,920
Speaker 1: and forty three miles per hour. All right, I just

692
00:38:10,960 --> 00:38:12,680
Speaker 1: looked it up real quick. What you don't usually do?

693
00:38:12,760 --> 00:38:15,120
Speaker 1: He he was in prefall for four minutes in nineteen

694
00:38:15,160 --> 00:38:17,680
Speaker 1: second man, that was crazy and then his record was

695
00:38:17,719 --> 00:38:20,479
Speaker 1: broken by a guy named Alan Eustace to two years later.

696
00:38:22,000 --> 00:38:24,680
Speaker 1: I don't think that. I don't know, Yeah, I don't either.

697
00:38:24,680 --> 00:38:31,000
Speaker 1: Felix bomb Gunner definitely got the press for that. Pretty cool. Yeah,

698
00:38:31,040 --> 00:38:33,160
Speaker 1: he did it first. I'm sure that guys like oh man,

699
00:38:33,360 --> 00:38:35,440
Speaker 1: no one, he've been batter t to my jump. Well, actually,

700
00:38:35,440 --> 00:38:38,759
Speaker 1: another guy, Colonel Joe Kittinger did it first in the sixties.

701
00:38:39,719 --> 00:38:41,920
Speaker 1: It was just like a gas balloon. Yeah, he does

702
00:38:42,000 --> 00:38:46,040
Speaker 1: space jump, which is I mean again, remember there was

703
00:38:46,080 --> 00:38:50,120
Speaker 1: like eleven deaths per hundred thousand jumps for a regular

704
00:38:50,160 --> 00:38:53,000
Speaker 1: skydiving and this guy's up and at a gas balloon

705
00:38:53,080 --> 00:38:55,520
Speaker 1: one hundred thousand feet above the Earth doing it. So

706
00:38:56,239 --> 00:38:58,560
Speaker 1: hats off to all those people who've ever jumped out

707
00:38:58,560 --> 00:39:01,520
Speaker 1: of a balloon in space. All Right, I guess we

708
00:39:01,520 --> 00:39:06,200
Speaker 1: can take a late second break here and talk about

709
00:39:06,239 --> 00:39:37,160
Speaker 1: this equipment we've been harping on. Yeah, all right, we

710
00:39:37,200 --> 00:39:41,040
Speaker 1: mentioned the equipment money that you can spend and the

711
00:39:41,120 --> 00:39:44,520
Speaker 1: rabbit hole to get the coolest helmets and goggles. The

712
00:39:44,560 --> 00:39:47,920
Speaker 1: first thing that you want as a parachute. If you're

713
00:39:47,960 --> 00:39:50,960
Speaker 1: a beginner, you're canopy. It's gonna be a little bit larger,

714
00:39:51,360 --> 00:39:53,759
Speaker 1: make you go a little bit slower. Yeah, back in

715
00:39:53,840 --> 00:39:57,080
Speaker 1: the day, we said they were silk because silk has

716
00:39:57,160 --> 00:40:00,640
Speaker 1: a very high strength to weight ratio. And it's also

717
00:40:00,840 --> 00:40:02,720
Speaker 1: and here's sort of the key, it's a very tight weave.

718
00:40:02,760 --> 00:40:05,799
Speaker 1: Because you know, you can't jump out with a gauze parachute,

719
00:40:06,760 --> 00:40:08,319
Speaker 1: it's not going to do much to slow you down.

720
00:40:08,360 --> 00:40:11,520
Speaker 1: So that tight weave of the silk really helped. And

721
00:40:11,560 --> 00:40:15,960
Speaker 1: then they eventually moved to nylon, of course, and that

722
00:40:16,080 --> 00:40:18,839
Speaker 1: nylon even usually has a coating on it to make

723
00:40:18,840 --> 00:40:22,240
Speaker 1: it even more nonporous. And we mentioned the big round

724
00:40:22,400 --> 00:40:25,880
Speaker 1: early parachute compared to the shape they have today today

725
00:40:25,920 --> 00:40:29,160
Speaker 1: they have and it's not only for flying cool and

726
00:40:29,280 --> 00:40:32,640
Speaker 1: doing you know, having more maneuverability, but they are formed

727
00:40:32,680 --> 00:40:35,440
Speaker 1: into different cells, as you will see if you look

728
00:40:35,440 --> 00:40:39,120
Speaker 1: at a parachute jump in. Those cells are sort of

729
00:40:39,120 --> 00:40:41,920
Speaker 1: a redundancy in themselves because if like one thing goes

730
00:40:41,960 --> 00:40:43,800
Speaker 1: wrong in a part of the parachute, you still got

731
00:40:43,920 --> 00:40:45,960
Speaker 1: plenty of parachute left. Yeah. What I didn't know I

732
00:40:46,040 --> 00:40:48,400
Speaker 1: ran across some research is the sides in the back

733
00:40:48,440 --> 00:40:52,160
Speaker 1: of the ram air parachute are sewn up, but the

734
00:40:52,160 --> 00:40:55,360
Speaker 1: front is open, so that air enters those cells and

735
00:40:55,440 --> 00:40:57,880
Speaker 1: puffs them up and creates a bit of buoyancy from

736
00:40:57,920 --> 00:41:00,440
Speaker 1: what I can tell, Yeah, that makes sense. Yeah, it's

737
00:41:00,440 --> 00:41:03,520
Speaker 1: pretty cool. So that again, that just completely changed everything

738
00:41:03,640 --> 00:41:07,680
Speaker 1: when they came up with UM that type of parachute.

739
00:41:07,920 --> 00:41:12,880
Speaker 1: Another parachute that really comes in handy is your reserve parachute.

740
00:41:13,239 --> 00:41:17,160
Speaker 1: So there's there's UM they've kind of updated the technology

741
00:41:17,200 --> 00:41:19,560
Speaker 1: on this. Before I don't know, you probably had to

742
00:41:19,560 --> 00:41:21,680
Speaker 1: be carrying a Rambo knife in your teeth when you

743
00:41:21,760 --> 00:41:23,960
Speaker 1: jump so that you could cut your shoote to release

744
00:41:24,000 --> 00:41:26,520
Speaker 1: your your shoot from you so you could release your

745
00:41:26,520 --> 00:41:30,040
Speaker 1: reserve canopy. Now there's like just a little pull chord

746
00:41:30,080 --> 00:41:33,800
Speaker 1: and the like all of your shoot that's failed falls

747
00:41:33,800 --> 00:41:36,120
Speaker 1: away your initial canopy and then you can pull your

748
00:41:36,120 --> 00:41:38,919
Speaker 1: reserve shoot pretty easily from there. Some of them even

749
00:41:38,960 --> 00:41:41,759
Speaker 1: have a thing where when you pull that chord and

750
00:41:41,880 --> 00:41:45,000
Speaker 1: your main canopy goes away, it actually pulls your reserve

751
00:41:45,040 --> 00:41:47,640
Speaker 1: shoot out like it's a static line basically, which is

752
00:41:48,120 --> 00:41:52,120
Speaker 1: probably good because I'm sure you're a little bit panicked

753
00:41:52,160 --> 00:41:55,880
Speaker 1: maybe when your shoot UM doesn't doesn't work when it fails,

754
00:41:55,920 --> 00:41:58,319
Speaker 1: even though you know you have a reserve shoot that's

755
00:41:58,320 --> 00:42:00,520
Speaker 1: got to be. You know, you're down one, You're down

756
00:42:00,560 --> 00:42:05,319
Speaker 1: to your last one. Now this is your back up. Yeah, absolutely, Um,

757
00:42:06,120 --> 00:42:08,680
Speaker 1: the harness and the container is what it's. The little

758
00:42:08,680 --> 00:42:11,960
Speaker 1: backpack is called that everything is packed in. Yeah, and

759
00:42:12,160 --> 00:42:13,640
Speaker 1: of course you want to have someone that knows what

760
00:42:13,640 --> 00:42:16,560
Speaker 1: they're doing doing that. I'm sure there are many many

761
00:42:17,080 --> 00:42:19,919
Speaker 1: instructional lessons involved for you to get to the point

762
00:42:19,960 --> 00:42:22,560
Speaker 1: where you can pack your own. And they say, even

763
00:42:22,560 --> 00:42:24,719
Speaker 1: when you're packing your own, it's not the kind of

764
00:42:24,760 --> 00:42:26,480
Speaker 1: thing where you should pack it and just like leave

765
00:42:26,520 --> 00:42:29,239
Speaker 1: it in your closet for a few years and jump again. Like,

766
00:42:29,239 --> 00:42:31,880
Speaker 1: you should probably repack that thing just to make sure

767
00:42:32,000 --> 00:42:34,359
Speaker 1: everything is as it should be. Yeah, your reserves SHO

768
00:42:34,520 --> 00:42:38,319
Speaker 1: has to be packed by a licensed instructor and they

769
00:42:38,360 --> 00:42:40,439
Speaker 1: have you have to unpack it and repack it every

770
00:42:40,440 --> 00:42:42,480
Speaker 1: one hundred and eighty days to make sure that it's

771
00:42:42,520 --> 00:42:45,880
Speaker 1: in good condition. So, yeah, you don't want that thing

772
00:42:45,880 --> 00:42:48,640
Speaker 1: getting that's hung up. No, that's no joke. The altimeter,

773
00:42:48,880 --> 00:42:51,239
Speaker 1: I told you, that's the thing that tells you what, um,

774
00:42:51,520 --> 00:42:54,399
Speaker 1: where you're at above sea level, So you know when

775
00:42:54,600 --> 00:43:00,680
Speaker 1: polar ripcord usually it's three thy thirty feet and the louder.

776
00:43:00,719 --> 00:43:02,919
Speaker 1: Some of them will will make a sound in your ear,

777
00:43:03,040 --> 00:43:06,320
Speaker 1: in your helmet. Some of them have really big numbers.

778
00:43:06,360 --> 00:43:08,720
Speaker 1: Just kind of wear like a watch on your wrist. Again,

779
00:43:09,200 --> 00:43:13,560
Speaker 1: do not cheap out on your altimeter. Okay. Also, do

780
00:43:13,640 --> 00:43:16,200
Speaker 1: not go to Craigslist to pick up your AAD. That's

781
00:43:16,200 --> 00:43:20,239
Speaker 1: your automatic activation device. That is the redundancy on the

782
00:43:20,320 --> 00:43:25,920
Speaker 1: redundancy if you're doing if Gary flies over in mid

783
00:43:26,000 --> 00:43:30,040
Speaker 1: stem formation, kicks you in the head by accident, and

784
00:43:30,120 --> 00:43:33,319
Speaker 1: you're passed out up there and Gary can't get back

785
00:43:33,320 --> 00:43:36,000
Speaker 1: to you, you have a device that is set to

786
00:43:36,040 --> 00:43:41,520
Speaker 1: automatically pop your shoot out at a preprogrammed altitude based

787
00:43:41,560 --> 00:43:43,759
Speaker 1: on how fast you're going. You really want that thing

788
00:43:44,280 --> 00:43:47,319
Speaker 1: to be set up correctly. You know. Some people say

789
00:43:47,400 --> 00:43:50,520
Speaker 1: Garry didn't even really try to get back to you. Yeah,

790
00:43:50,520 --> 00:43:52,480
Speaker 1: that's what I saw, and it's all on my GoPro

791
00:43:52,920 --> 00:43:55,920
Speaker 1: one thing. I saw. This what the AAD is. If

792
00:43:55,960 --> 00:43:57,759
Speaker 1: you go up an airplane and for some reason you

793
00:43:57,800 --> 00:44:00,399
Speaker 1: don't jump out, you better remember to turn if you're

794
00:44:00,440 --> 00:44:03,479
Speaker 1: a d because when the airplane hits like seven hundred feet,

795
00:44:03,719 --> 00:44:09,359
Speaker 1: it's going to activate your pairs in the airplane. Yeah,

796
00:44:09,480 --> 00:44:11,560
Speaker 1: that's that's no good. And then you got your jumpsuit

797
00:44:11,640 --> 00:44:14,120
Speaker 1: which protects your skin, and then you've got your helmet

798
00:44:14,160 --> 00:44:18,080
Speaker 1: and goggles, which are absolutely essential. Yeah, and you put

799
00:44:18,120 --> 00:44:21,799
Speaker 1: all those things together, you're ready to go skydiving. Yeah,

800
00:44:21,880 --> 00:44:25,360
Speaker 1: what's the little uh? It doesn't a little mini parachute

801
00:44:25,400 --> 00:44:28,840
Speaker 1: come out at first, and that pulls the main shoot. Now, Yeah,

802
00:44:28,920 --> 00:44:32,120
Speaker 1: so the pilot shoote just kind of pilot shoot. Yeah,

803
00:44:32,160 --> 00:44:34,840
Speaker 1: it catches enough air that it can pull your shoot

804
00:44:34,920 --> 00:44:37,879
Speaker 1: out of your container, out of your deployment bag, your

805
00:44:37,960 --> 00:44:41,719
Speaker 1: d bag they call it, Yeah, they do. And then

806
00:44:41,719 --> 00:44:44,279
Speaker 1: one thing that that can happen if your shoot just

807
00:44:44,440 --> 00:44:48,360
Speaker 1: opened from like nothing to open like in a second,

808
00:44:48,920 --> 00:44:53,160
Speaker 1: it's going to pull you up and possibly break your shoulders,

809
00:44:53,280 --> 00:44:56,000
Speaker 1: do all sorts of terrible stuff to your growing, and

810
00:44:56,360 --> 00:44:58,800
Speaker 1: you don't want to do that. So they've actually created

811
00:44:58,840 --> 00:45:02,279
Speaker 1: something called a slider which holds the chords together and

812
00:45:02,320 --> 00:45:04,520
Speaker 1: then as the shoot opens up, it kind of slides

813
00:45:04,520 --> 00:45:07,640
Speaker 1: further and further down, so it controls the opening of

814
00:45:07,640 --> 00:45:10,160
Speaker 1: your shoot to make it a much more pleasant experience.

815
00:45:10,719 --> 00:45:13,080
Speaker 1: And that's the one that you use for just a

816
00:45:13,280 --> 00:45:16,400
Speaker 1: solo a skydiving. There's another one called a drogue shoot

817
00:45:16,440 --> 00:45:20,080
Speaker 1: they use for tandem, right, and that is it's sort

818
00:45:20,120 --> 00:45:21,600
Speaker 1: of like a pilot shoot, but is bigger than a

819
00:45:21,640 --> 00:45:26,200
Speaker 1: pilot shoot. Right. Yes, it's in between pilot SHOOTE and canopy. Yeah,

820
00:45:26,200 --> 00:45:30,280
Speaker 1: and that is deployed, I mean kind of right afterward,

821
00:45:30,400 --> 00:45:32,560
Speaker 1: right right after you job. I don't know when the

822
00:45:32,640 --> 00:45:36,760
Speaker 1: drogue is deployed or not, because they could be because

823
00:45:36,800 --> 00:45:39,960
Speaker 1: the rip chord is pulled by the instructor. It's not

824
00:45:40,000 --> 00:45:43,440
Speaker 1: like the drogue pulls the main canopy out right. But

825
00:45:43,520 --> 00:45:46,120
Speaker 1: the reason the drogue is bigger is because even though

826
00:45:46,200 --> 00:45:48,960
Speaker 1: a bowling ball and a person would fall together at

827
00:45:48,960 --> 00:45:53,879
Speaker 1: the same speed to Earth in a vacuum, mass does

828
00:45:54,040 --> 00:45:57,719
Speaker 1: count when you add air friction. And when you're tandem,

829
00:45:58,040 --> 00:46:01,160
Speaker 1: you're presenting the same amount of surface area to the

830
00:46:01,360 --> 00:46:03,880
Speaker 1: to the resistance to the air as you are if

831
00:46:03,880 --> 00:46:07,319
Speaker 1: you're solo, because the person's on your back, but you've

832
00:46:07,320 --> 00:46:10,359
Speaker 1: got about double or more the weight. So you do

833
00:46:10,520 --> 00:46:12,799
Speaker 1: hit that terminal velocity at a higher speed of about

834
00:46:12,840 --> 00:46:15,160
Speaker 1: two hundred miles an hour, and you need a bigger

835
00:46:15,239 --> 00:46:19,319
Speaker 1: canopy and a larger drogue shoot to um to make

836
00:46:19,360 --> 00:46:22,960
Speaker 1: it again a pleasant experience when the canopy opens. Yeah,

837
00:46:23,000 --> 00:46:25,520
Speaker 1: and you also, you know, I think people what they

838
00:46:25,560 --> 00:46:28,640
Speaker 1: want is at freefall time. Yes, and I'm sure they're

839
00:46:29,360 --> 00:46:32,320
Speaker 1: maybe not guaranteed, but I'm sure they're sort of promised

840
00:46:32,480 --> 00:46:35,920
Speaker 1: five to a minute. Yeah, yeah, And I mean, like

841
00:46:36,040 --> 00:46:39,080
Speaker 1: it's that's not to say that the floating from a

842
00:46:39,120 --> 00:46:42,440
Speaker 1: parachute is. It's just a totally different experience, and you

843
00:46:42,520 --> 00:46:45,600
Speaker 1: go from one to another in like almost the blink

844
00:46:45,640 --> 00:46:48,040
Speaker 1: of an eye. It really does happen really fast, and

845
00:46:48,120 --> 00:46:52,640
Speaker 1: you're hollomating toward Earth. It's really really surprisingly cold up there.

846
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Speaker 1: And then all of a sudden, you know, your shoot

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Speaker 1: opens and you stop falling, and you're you're no longer

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Speaker 1: belly down, your your feet are angling, and you're just

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Speaker 1: kind of gliding along, floating on air. It's gotten quiet.

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Speaker 1: All of a sudden, you actually feel the temperatures start

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Speaker 1: to get warmer as you get closer and closer to

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Speaker 1: the earth, and you just get set down. It's it's

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Speaker 1: just an amazing experience. There's nothing else like it that

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Speaker 1: sounds great. I gotta try it out. I hope you do, man,

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Speaker 1: let me know. If you do, I'll watch you. We

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Speaker 1: would do it again, though, if I did it right.

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Speaker 1: I'm not sure Youmi would let me at this point. Really,

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Speaker 1: She's just like, why bother? You've done it? Yeah, she

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Speaker 1: did it once too. We actually kind of are like,

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Speaker 1: we did it once, we don't need to do it again.

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Speaker 1: This has made me want to do it again, but again,

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Speaker 1: I probably will just stay on the ground and watch you. Okay, Well,

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Speaker 1: I certainly love knowing what a life experience feels like,

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Speaker 1: so maybe I'll do it. Okay, Well, while we wait

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Speaker 1: for Chuck to do it, how about we do a

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Speaker 1: listener mail. Let's do it quick correction by the way,

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Speaker 1: And this is something that embarrassed that we forgot. But

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Speaker 1: in the cave episode where what was his name that

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Speaker 1: was trapped in the cave, Floyd Collins. Yeah, I could

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Speaker 1: think of a Felix bomb gardener, and we kept talking

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Speaker 1: about how cold it was like for fourteen degrees or whatever.

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Speaker 1: Obviously the temperature in the cave is because it's underground,

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Speaker 1: is a pretty static, steady number. That is not what

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Speaker 1: it's like on top of the ground. So I don't

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Speaker 1: understand that because there was ice mixed in with the

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Speaker 1: mud and the rock in sand cave, I don't know

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Speaker 1: what to tell you, my friends, it's possible sand cave

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Speaker 1: was a little more open to the surface. I don't know.

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Speaker 1: Maybe I saw it in multiple places that there was

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00:48:43,600 --> 00:48:47,480
Speaker 1: plenty of ice to contend with, all right, but I

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Speaker 1: get you with you. I saw people groaned or shouted

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Speaker 1: at their their phone or whatever. It's like that that

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Speaker 1: was the one thing that was it That the cave

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Speaker 1: supposedly has a steady temperature and we don't even know

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Speaker 1: that that's true. Everybody, that's true, all right. So this

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Speaker 1: is the email, and it's about another correction that boy

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Speaker 1: you certainly heard from the bitters lovers of the world. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: when you said nobody wouldever just drink bitters, apparently a

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Speaker 1: lot of people drink bitters, and a lot of people

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Speaker 1: in Wisconsin drink bitters. Hey, guys, well, listening to the

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Speaker 1: most recent episode on tomorrow, amused by your exchange about

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Speaker 1: bitters being alcoholic. Chuck was amazed at bitters contained alcohol

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Speaker 1: at all and was confused while I was in grocery

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Speaker 1: stores and Josh explained that nobody would drink a bottle

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Speaker 1: of bitters. You said and said you put money on it. Yeah, well, Josh,

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Speaker 1: it sounds like you need to do a tour of

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Speaker 1: the wonderful state of Wisconsin. I could summarize this article

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Speaker 1: about the longest operating tavern in Wisconsin and number one

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Speaker 1: consumer of bitters in the world, but it's incredibly well written.

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Speaker 1: Read this while I take an ad break. And this

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00:49:50,280 --> 00:49:54,959
Speaker 1: was from Kevin Pep Rocky and it was from Atlas Obscura,

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Speaker 1: Washington Island, Wisconsin bitters shots. What's the name of this thing?

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Speaker 1: How a tiny Wisconsin island became the world's biggest consumer

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Speaker 1: of bitters? Amazing? Ellis obscure rocks. They're great. And we

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Speaker 1: heard from plenty of people who said that not only

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Speaker 1: in Wisconsin but other places, like a shot of bitters

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00:50:13,920 --> 00:50:17,200
Speaker 1: was a thing. Yeah, not only that, there's cocktails based

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Speaker 1: on angostura as the main ingredient, like an idea and

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Speaker 1: a half of bitters, which is crazy. Yeah, it's not

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Speaker 1: like I'm new to this whole thing either. I just

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Speaker 1: had not heard that at all. I'm not going to

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Speaker 1: try it or anything like that, but I'm impressed. I

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Speaker 1: hadn't heard this stuff either, So you know, we're learning

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Speaker 1: to I love that, Chuck, I love it. Well, if

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Speaker 1: you want to get in touch with us, like Kevin

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Speaker 1: Pep Rocky, Kevin Pep Rocky, and all the people who

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Speaker 1: wrote in erroneously about the cave temperature for Floyd Collins.

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