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Speaker 1: The Big Bets on Campus Podcast Podcast.

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Speaker 2: Pot all right, here we go fifteen Conny twenty five,

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Speaker 3: And the kicks block Look College Football World stunner.

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Speaker 4: Oh my goodness, please.

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Speaker 2: Stumble the football, the lateral turn counter up the inside.

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Speaker 4: Can't you the lad cap them off the field tonight.

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Speaker 2: It's not the side on the gag in the fight,

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Speaker 1: Welcome back to the Big Bets on Campus Podcast presented

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Speaker 1: by Bett MGM. This is the Group of five Deep

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Speaker 1: Dive and we're kicking off our preview season with the Sunbelt.

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Speaker 1: I'm Mike Calvary's I'm joined by my fellow host Mike, I,

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Speaker 1: l O and Stucky. We're gonna be looking at win

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Speaker 1: totals here in the SBC Conference title odds and the

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Speaker 1: new Market odds to make the college Football Playoff out

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Speaker 1: of G five land exciting angles to get into. We're

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Speaker 1: gonna preview all fourteen teams over the next hour, so

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Speaker 1: strap on your fun belts for some detailed G five previewing.

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Speaker 5: The fun Belt, don't let the latest come between you and.

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Speaker 1: The bolt stuck. How you feel in coming out of

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Speaker 1: the off season. Are you raring to go?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm mitching. I love starting with the fun Belt

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Speaker 2: and now with the transfer portal, it's you know, it

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Speaker 2: is just even a more fascinating conference. See the turno

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Speaker 2: on these teams. It's just insane. We'll get into all

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Speaker 2: of that, but yeah, I'm it's it's full go now.

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Speaker 2: It's we're gonna be recording one of these like almost

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Speaker 2: every day from here on out. I'm really excited just

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Speaker 2: to talk some fun belt I do have. I tweeted

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Speaker 2: out for people to guess whom future is. You guys

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Speaker 2: don't even know what my future is. And then the

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Speaker 2: three people. I'm gonna do this. I think with every conference,

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Speaker 2: the first three people that got it right, I'm gonna

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Speaker 2: put them in a hat. I'm gonna pick one out.

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Speaker 2: I'll probably do that on like our last episode before

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Speaker 2: the season starts, like a recap episode, and if that

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Speaker 2: future hits, you'll share in the winnings with me. Uh So,

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Speaker 2: some interesting guesses. It's spoiler, it's not u El Monroe.

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Speaker 2: I'm excited to talk some fun thought.

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Speaker 1: It's crazy the roster turnover a year to year. Now

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Speaker 1: it's coming off of the Olympics and all the preview

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Speaker 1: coverage we did here at the Action Network. It's almost

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Speaker 1: like looking at Olympic teams four years separate, Like if

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Speaker 1: there's a single player that is overlapped, it's like, wow,

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Speaker 1: I can't believe they're still on this team. That's how

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Speaker 1: much the transfer portal has impacted these G five conferences.

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Speaker 1: How long did it take you for the prep for

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Speaker 1: this episode?

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Speaker 4: I know of and I Stuck's from doing this. You know,

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Speaker 4: twice as long as us it It takes twice as

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Speaker 4: long as it used to just going through the transfer

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Speaker 4: portal stuff. I think this was a really interesting year.

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Speaker 4: As Stock mentioned, a lot of over I mean, we

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Speaker 4: had the summed up Player of the Year transfer within

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Speaker 4: the conference, so and you know a lot of drop

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Speaker 4: downs from the Power five. But that will see how

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Speaker 4: they can do. So yeah, I think it's it's a

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Speaker 4: super exciting year. I feel like this is this is

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Speaker 4: excited to go through the transfer stuff. Last year was

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Speaker 4: kind of a bummer to be like, all my favorite

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Speaker 4: kind of trying to embrace it more and being like,

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Speaker 4: you know, new names, new faces to digest. So I'm

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Speaker 1: Before we get to it, some programming notes, this is

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Speaker 1: officially our four hundredth episode of Big Bets on Campus,

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Speaker 1: and what better way to celebrate them to kick off

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Speaker 1: our annual Conference Betting previews today. Obviously we're onto the

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Speaker 1: sun Belt, but if you're wondering about the schedule, I'll

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Speaker 1: lay it out for you. This week we also have

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Speaker 1: Oregon State and Wazoo will be featured in that episode,

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Speaker 1: and on the Conference USA front, we'll also be covering

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Speaker 1: the independent programs except for noted. Next week we'll have

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Speaker 1: Stucky and Colin will add Notre Dame to the ACC episode.

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Speaker 1: And finally in two weeks, the week of August twelfth

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Speaker 5: All right, thank you, Michael. Yes, big announcement, The Big

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Speaker 1: All right, it's now time for the fun Belts. We're

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Speaker 1: going to go through all fourteen teams. As I mentioned,

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Speaker 1: we're going to go by the preseason poll the media voted.

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Speaker 1: They put the teams in the packing order, both in

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Speaker 1: they still do divisions. It's with everybody throwing divisions out

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Speaker 1: the sun Belt seems pretty contense. Keeping it east and West,

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Speaker 1: And every time we change teams, it's going to be

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Speaker 1: on the Nears this year. Their defense returns eight starters,

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Speaker 1: Last year, their twenty fifth and Pro Football Focus coverage

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Speaker 4: Yeah? I kind of echo everything he just said in

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Speaker 4: I'm gonna take a slightly down the board. H later,

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Speaker 4: a half you mention it. The Mountaineers put their fans

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Speaker 4: through absolute hell last season nine to four. But when

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Speaker 4: they could have been you know, eleven to one last year.

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Speaker 4: I agree, I think they have a better twenty twenty four.

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Speaker 4: You look at the top of this board, Troy James,

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Speaker 4: Mass and South Alabama all lose their head coach. App

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Speaker 4: State brings back Joey Aguilar. I'll be honest, I was

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Speaker 4: I feel you can't pick like the conference player of

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Speaker 4: the year to be the my guy. But this is

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Speaker 4: strictly a Joey Aguilar podcast set a score wrecker with

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Speaker 4: thirty three touchdowns. You mentioned Nate and Well transfer in,

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Speaker 4: but Kanye roberts they should be fine. He's got he

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Speaker 4: got a lot of burn with them last year. They

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Speaker 4: but they did plug a big hole with Jacob Dobbs,

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00:21:10,640 --> 00:21:14,320
Speaker 4: who is an FCS, two time FCS All American linebacker,

431
00:21:14,720 --> 00:21:17,320
Speaker 4: two time Patriot Defensive Player of the Year that Chesney

432
00:21:17,359 --> 00:21:20,240
Speaker 4: brought from Holy Cross with him. I think that is

433
00:21:20,359 --> 00:21:22,280
Speaker 4: huge in terms of just having a guy who knows

434
00:21:22,280 --> 00:21:24,320
Speaker 4: the defense, knows the system to kind of be that

435
00:21:24,400 --> 00:21:27,680
Speaker 4: quarterback of the defense. I think that's gonna be huge

436
00:21:27,680 --> 00:21:30,800
Speaker 4: help to get the defense. You know, not to completely

437
00:21:30,800 --> 00:21:33,720
Speaker 4: fall off a cliff, but you said it. The schedule

438
00:21:33,760 --> 00:21:36,280
Speaker 4: is just super easy. They played North Carolina early, in

439
00:21:36,359 --> 00:21:39,320
Speaker 4: app State late, and then they play the seven worst

440
00:21:39,320 --> 00:21:42,480
Speaker 4: teams in the conference. So you look at this the

441
00:21:42,520 --> 00:21:46,840
Speaker 4: way the schedule breaks, they should be nine to one

442
00:21:47,359 --> 00:21:49,879
Speaker 4: heading into the app State game. And yes, Stuck, you

443
00:21:49,920 --> 00:21:52,280
Speaker 4: mentioned it's it's in boone and it's coming off of

444
00:21:52,280 --> 00:21:55,360
Speaker 4: by so everything sets forward for app State to win

445
00:21:55,440 --> 00:21:59,199
Speaker 4: that game. But you're basically getting JMU money line plus

446
00:21:59,240 --> 00:22:01,879
Speaker 4: seven point fifty. It's a beat app State. So like

447
00:22:01,960 --> 00:22:05,560
Speaker 4: you can certainly hedge later, but I agree with you.

448
00:22:05,640 --> 00:22:07,800
Speaker 4: I think the values on JMU to win the sum

449
00:22:07,880 --> 00:22:12,040
Speaker 4: Belt plus seven fifty stucky puck holes in app State.

450
00:22:12,840 --> 00:22:15,840
Speaker 4: I'll poke holes in Texas State later. But I'm the

451
00:22:15,880 --> 00:22:17,480
Speaker 4: way I'm looking at it is I'm getting JAMU plus

452
00:22:17,520 --> 00:22:20,360
Speaker 4: seven fifty to beat app State in boone. So if

453
00:22:20,400 --> 00:22:23,560
Speaker 4: everything clicks, I think they have everything right there to

454
00:22:23,600 --> 00:22:24,880
Speaker 4: be there at the end of the year. So give

455
00:22:24,920 --> 00:22:26,439
Speaker 4: me the Dukes to win the Sum Belt.

456
00:22:26,560 --> 00:22:31,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, I completely agree. My fare is like six fifty.

457
00:22:32,040 --> 00:22:34,920
Speaker 2: By the way, little another reason to follow the action app.

458
00:22:34,960 --> 00:22:36,480
Speaker 2: You can find a ten to one out there. Keep

459
00:22:36,480 --> 00:22:38,280
Speaker 2: an eye on the app. There's a ten to one

460
00:22:38,280 --> 00:22:41,439
Speaker 2: out there. Best oh total is over eight minus one

461
00:22:41,560 --> 00:22:45,040
Speaker 2: twenty five. So yeah, like, look, jam you went five

462
00:22:45,040 --> 00:22:47,880
Speaker 2: to one one session games last year. They lost everybody.

463
00:22:48,080 --> 00:22:51,640
Speaker 2: They are bottom ten in returning production. I get it,

464
00:22:51,800 --> 00:22:56,639
Speaker 2: but I'm buying the ups. I'm just getting ten to

465
00:22:56,640 --> 00:22:58,280
Speaker 2: one to win the Sum Belt. Now I have them

466
00:22:58,359 --> 00:23:01,200
Speaker 2: the easiest schedule in the country. They get Southern Miss

467
00:23:01,200 --> 00:23:04,439
Speaker 2: and ULM in their cross division games. Did I mean this?

468
00:23:04,720 --> 00:23:07,320
Speaker 2: This schedule is an absolute jok. They've woid four of

469
00:23:07,359 --> 00:23:09,320
Speaker 2: the they avoid four of the top five teams in

470
00:23:09,359 --> 00:23:12,040
Speaker 2: the league outside of app State, and that game's obviously

471
00:23:12,040 --> 00:23:14,560
Speaker 2: gouna be huge for the division. App State should be favored.

472
00:23:14,560 --> 00:23:16,960
Speaker 2: But look, JAMU chip on their shoulder. They lost a

473
00:23:16,960 --> 00:23:19,960
Speaker 2: lot of guys, but remember the last two years they

474
00:23:20,119 --> 00:23:22,400
Speaker 2: shape they should have been there. Now they're finally eligibooks

475
00:23:22,400 --> 00:23:24,679
Speaker 2: that stupid rule, But there's just what do you want

476
00:23:24,720 --> 00:23:27,120
Speaker 2: when you're taking on a future you know, eight, nine,

477
00:23:27,160 --> 00:23:30,880
Speaker 2: ten to one or higher? He went uncertainty, and that's

478
00:23:30,880 --> 00:23:33,720
Speaker 2: what you're getting here with JMU. They added sixty four

479
00:23:33,760 --> 00:23:38,000
Speaker 2: players because fifty five departed, so there's a lot of uncertainty. Morris,

480
00:23:38,560 --> 00:23:41,760
Speaker 2: he could shine coming from you know, power Power five

481
00:23:41,800 --> 00:23:45,840
Speaker 2: program to the Group of five. Sometimes those guys just

482
00:23:45,920 --> 00:23:46,639
Speaker 2: go bananas.

483
00:23:46,680 --> 00:23:50,000
Speaker 4: I think there's McLoud did it coming from Arizona, which

484
00:23:50,040 --> 00:23:51,840
Speaker 4: he was not good at Arizona. Like what he did

485
00:23:51,880 --> 00:23:52,439
Speaker 4: in this suck though.

486
00:23:53,119 --> 00:23:56,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I like so their running game under Chesney

487
00:23:56,600 --> 00:23:59,480
Speaker 2: should be good. We mentioned the running backs. The offensive line,

488
00:23:59,760 --> 00:24:03,159
Speaker 2: I'm very bullish on the first of all, they're huge,

489
00:24:03,240 --> 00:24:05,440
Speaker 2: they have size everywhere, and they got over one hundred

490
00:24:05,480 --> 00:24:08,199
Speaker 2: starts returning, and they have bad injury luck. Last year.

491
00:24:08,200 --> 00:24:09,960
Speaker 2: The offense line wasn't great last year. They lost both

492
00:24:09,960 --> 00:24:13,920
Speaker 2: of their tackles to injuries. Bringing a right tackle from

493
00:24:13,920 --> 00:24:16,520
Speaker 2: holy Cross who knows the system as well. Left tackle

494
00:24:16,560 --> 00:24:20,040
Speaker 2: comes back from injury. So and I actually like the

495
00:24:20,080 --> 00:24:25,000
Speaker 2: wide receiver room. They lost three really productive guys, but

496
00:24:26,119 --> 00:24:28,280
Speaker 2: I think Hudson has a lot of potential. I love

497
00:24:28,400 --> 00:24:31,000
Speaker 2: Ross from Yukon and my guy we're gonna talking about.

498
00:24:31,000 --> 00:24:34,480
Speaker 2: My guy is Breon Penny from San Diego State. These

499
00:24:34,480 --> 00:24:36,560
Speaker 2: are two guys who flashed to me on teams. I

500
00:24:36,560 --> 00:24:39,000
Speaker 2: couldn't throw the ball by the way. I mean, despite

501
00:24:39,000 --> 00:24:42,879
Speaker 2: what Colin thinks. San Diego State for forty yards against

502
00:24:42,880 --> 00:24:47,320
Speaker 2: Nevada last year in a game. So I like the

503
00:24:47,320 --> 00:24:50,800
Speaker 2: potential that wide receiver room. Defense. Do have some concerns,

504
00:24:50,800 --> 00:24:53,840
Speaker 2: but I like the additions on the defensive line. Some

505
00:24:54,000 --> 00:24:56,159
Speaker 2: are all who has a lot of potential, who's been

506
00:24:56,160 --> 00:24:59,960
Speaker 2: at Power five programs. This kid o'kneel from Long Island,

507
00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:04,639
Speaker 2: Locket from QS, this guy Fitzgerald like. I like the

508
00:25:04,680 --> 00:25:07,200
Speaker 2: size they had there. And then at linebacker you mentioned Dobbs.

509
00:25:07,280 --> 00:25:09,760
Speaker 2: Taurus Jones is healthy. Now this is a guy who

510
00:25:09,800 --> 00:25:12,160
Speaker 2: has had a lot of success in the past. Ponds

511
00:25:12,200 --> 00:25:15,240
Speaker 2: is the big loss for me. It really it really

512
00:25:15,320 --> 00:25:19,000
Speaker 2: hurts their just if they had him back, this defense

513
00:25:19,560 --> 00:25:21,720
Speaker 2: I think could have been I would have had less

514
00:25:21,760 --> 00:25:26,840
Speaker 2: doubts about quarterback. Two else is just what I'm concerned about.

515
00:25:26,840 --> 00:25:29,520
Speaker 2: It's I think Spence, the kid from Holy Cross, will

516
00:25:29,520 --> 00:25:32,439
Speaker 2: he translate? They bring in a safety I think from

517
00:25:32,520 --> 00:25:34,600
Speaker 2: Yukon or I think he Blay Corner at Ukon might

518
00:25:34,600 --> 00:25:38,160
Speaker 2: play safety here. The secondary is what I'm worried most about,

519
00:25:38,280 --> 00:25:40,719
Speaker 2: especially if the defensive line isn't as elite, right, it

520
00:25:40,760 --> 00:25:43,520
Speaker 2: was elite last year. So if the defensive line it's

521
00:25:43,520 --> 00:25:45,760
Speaker 2: hard to duplicate what they did, les Yer takes a

522
00:25:45,800 --> 00:25:50,080
Speaker 2: step back, and the secondary, you know, is if he

523
00:25:50,320 --> 00:25:54,000
Speaker 2: that really could cost JMU And if there's injuries. The

524
00:25:54,240 --> 00:26:00,760
Speaker 2: depth in the secondary is scary. It's freshman U D

525
00:26:00,920 --> 00:26:03,760
Speaker 2: two like all with all the losses bringing in all

526
00:26:03,760 --> 00:26:09,200
Speaker 2: these guys, it's a very very inexperienced defensive backfield once

527
00:26:09,240 --> 00:26:12,359
Speaker 2: you get past the starters. So that concerns me a

528
00:26:12,400 --> 00:26:16,240
Speaker 2: little bit. But with this schedule, Chesney's success at D

529
00:26:16,359 --> 00:26:20,000
Speaker 2: two D three FCS find it at ten to one

530
00:26:20,080 --> 00:26:25,000
Speaker 2: eight plus a fifty popular book. I'm in. I'm in

531
00:26:25,040 --> 00:26:29,960
Speaker 2: on JMU and depths a question, but this is I

532
00:26:30,000 --> 00:26:31,639
Speaker 2: think a nice flyer and I think it's a it's

533
00:26:31,640 --> 00:26:33,920
Speaker 2: a really good price. I think with some of these

534
00:26:34,000 --> 00:26:37,240
Speaker 2: we'll talk about this. Throughout all of our previews, you're

535
00:26:37,280 --> 00:26:40,600
Speaker 2: hearing about all this returning production and like they lost everybody,

536
00:26:40,920 --> 00:26:43,720
Speaker 2: and I think, you know, returning production is obviously important,

537
00:26:44,040 --> 00:26:46,159
Speaker 2: but there's so much turnover all over. I think that

538
00:26:46,359 --> 00:26:50,000
Speaker 2: in some cases these teams that lose a lot, like

539
00:26:50,080 --> 00:26:53,800
Speaker 2: lose almost everything can be undervalued in the market. I

540
00:26:53,800 --> 00:26:56,199
Speaker 2: think that's the case here with JMU. You're getting a

541
00:26:56,200 --> 00:26:58,960
Speaker 2: little app state, a little overvalue because hey, look I

542
00:26:58,960 --> 00:27:00,800
Speaker 2: Goo is coming back. They bring it back. Oh, j

543
00:27:00,920 --> 00:27:03,560
Speaker 2: and you lost everything. I think that narrative in storyline

544
00:27:03,640 --> 00:27:08,000
Speaker 2: is pushing the dukes to some value here. I like

545
00:27:08,000 --> 00:27:10,600
Speaker 2: them attend to one them. You're going to take a

546
00:27:10,680 --> 00:27:12,640
Speaker 2: flyer and some belt team to make the collswall playoff

547
00:27:12,640 --> 00:27:15,280
Speaker 2: with this schedule. I like the JMU number better than

548
00:27:15,320 --> 00:27:17,560
Speaker 2: ap State and what I think is a two horse race.

549
00:27:18,000 --> 00:27:19,080
Speaker 2: Can't pass up this price.

550
00:27:19,960 --> 00:27:24,120
Speaker 1: Selfishly, I hope that JMU pops because for those unfamiliar

551
00:27:24,160 --> 00:27:27,280
Speaker 1: with Chesney, he's basically a dead ringer for Jeremy Renner.

552
00:27:27,480 --> 00:27:30,119
Speaker 1: So I want to make as many the town references

553
00:27:30,280 --> 00:27:33,359
Speaker 1: and Mayor of Harrisonburg references. I think our social team,

554
00:27:33,400 --> 00:27:35,560
Speaker 1: graphics team is working up some stuff for that. So

555
00:27:35,760 --> 00:27:37,160
Speaker 1: if they get off to a hot start, and as

556
00:27:37,160 --> 00:27:39,840
Speaker 1: we mentioned, the schedule is downy soft early, and if

557
00:27:39,840 --> 00:27:43,119
Speaker 1: they surprise North Carolina on the twenty first of September,

558
00:27:43,240 --> 00:27:45,240
Speaker 1: I mean the hype train is going to be incredible,

559
00:27:45,280 --> 00:27:47,119
Speaker 1: But just putting it out there early.

560
00:27:47,000 --> 00:27:49,080
Speaker 4: Hey, stucky ten to one whose car are we taking?

561
00:27:51,440 --> 00:27:52,200
Speaker 2: I need your help.

562
00:27:52,840 --> 00:27:53,840
Speaker 4: I can't tell you what it is.

563
00:27:53,880 --> 00:27:55,760
Speaker 2: You can never ask me about it later. And we're

564
00:27:55,760 --> 00:27:56,679
Speaker 2: going to hurt some people.

565
00:27:57,760 --> 00:27:59,120
Speaker 4: Who's Kyle We're gonna thank.

566
00:28:00,320 --> 00:28:01,840
Speaker 2: We're not going to take our producers car. I'll tell

567
00:28:01,840 --> 00:28:03,200
Speaker 2: you because we're on pace for like a six hour

568
00:28:03,240 --> 00:28:03,960
Speaker 2: episode right now.

569
00:28:06,560 --> 00:28:08,720
Speaker 1: All right, I can speed things up a little bit

570
00:28:08,800 --> 00:28:11,399
Speaker 1: with Coastal Carolina here, because I think there's a steep

571
00:28:11,480 --> 00:28:13,600
Speaker 1: drop off. You mentioned it. It's a two team race

572
00:28:13,680 --> 00:28:16,480
Speaker 1: in the East. We look at Coastal Carolina. Timbeck onto

573
00:28:16,520 --> 00:28:18,439
Speaker 1: year two eight and five and year one, five and

574
00:28:18,520 --> 00:28:20,800
Speaker 1: three in conference. They beat San Jose State in the

575
00:28:20,800 --> 00:28:23,200
Speaker 1: Hawaii Bowl, their win totals set at six. All of

576
00:28:23,240 --> 00:28:24,800
Speaker 1: a sudden, you can see these numbers go through the

577
00:28:24,880 --> 00:28:26,679
Speaker 1: roof to win the Sun Belt twenty to one, to

578
00:28:26,680 --> 00:28:29,320
Speaker 1: make the College Football Playoff eighty to one. I'm gonna

579
00:28:29,320 --> 00:28:31,399
Speaker 1: say this first. I was a little surprised they had

580
00:28:31,400 --> 00:28:33,359
Speaker 1: a winning record in the Sun Belt last year, given

581
00:28:33,400 --> 00:28:35,479
Speaker 1: the fact that McCall got shut down and they had

582
00:28:35,480 --> 00:28:37,960
Speaker 1: to rely on Vasco, just you know, putting that out

583
00:28:37,960 --> 00:28:41,080
Speaker 1: there early. Basco looked pretty good in four games worth

584
00:28:41,120 --> 00:28:44,200
Speaker 1: of action, but this roster outside of him has been decimated.

585
00:28:44,360 --> 00:28:48,000
Speaker 1: According to Colin Coastal's net TARP from the offseason, negative nine.

586
00:28:48,160 --> 00:28:50,920
Speaker 1: That's twelve worst in the entire country. The skill positions

587
00:28:50,960 --> 00:28:54,000
Speaker 1: need to be rebuilt. Defensively, they do have experienced all

588
00:28:54,040 --> 00:28:56,560
Speaker 1: three levels. Luckily, they have a soft start to the

589
00:28:56,560 --> 00:28:58,280
Speaker 1: season and try to figure things out on that side

590
00:28:58,280 --> 00:29:01,080
Speaker 1: of the ball. They open at Jacksonville State, William and

591
00:29:01,120 --> 00:29:05,520
Speaker 1: Mary at Temple Virginia Old Dominion also at home. That schedule,

592
00:29:05,600 --> 00:29:07,160
Speaker 1: in my opinion, this is how I'm gonna play it

593
00:29:07,160 --> 00:29:09,520
Speaker 1: because it's a pass for win total. I'm certainly not

594
00:29:09,600 --> 00:29:12,600
Speaker 1: taking any flyers on them to even make the title game,

595
00:29:12,680 --> 00:29:14,480
Speaker 1: let alone win it gets to the college that will play,

596
00:29:14,480 --> 00:29:17,240
Speaker 1: I forget it. But I do think because the schedule

597
00:29:17,280 --> 00:29:19,720
Speaker 1: sets up where they could win three or four games early,

598
00:29:19,760 --> 00:29:21,760
Speaker 1: I think it's going to create some fools gold in

599
00:29:21,800 --> 00:29:23,360
Speaker 1: the second half of the season when they have to

600
00:29:23,400 --> 00:29:26,200
Speaker 1: travel to JMU and Troy and host app State and

601
00:29:26,200 --> 00:29:28,440
Speaker 1: Georgia Southern. I think that's going to be my spot.

602
00:29:28,480 --> 00:29:30,640
Speaker 1: I'm hoping they get out to a nice start and

603
00:29:30,680 --> 00:29:32,320
Speaker 1: then all of a sudden we start to reel back

604
00:29:32,400 --> 00:29:35,280
Speaker 1: on the shunts I'll kick it to you first, Stuckey,

605
00:29:35,360 --> 00:29:37,520
Speaker 1: what are your thoughts on this team? With Tim Beck

606
00:29:37,640 --> 00:29:40,760
Speaker 1: leading the way? You know, they kind of rode McCall

607
00:29:40,840 --> 00:29:42,760
Speaker 1: as far as they could and they were able to

608
00:29:42,800 --> 00:29:45,120
Speaker 1: get some wins lead in the season to pad their

609
00:29:45,240 --> 00:29:47,680
Speaker 1: their season a little bit. I'm not sure they're as

610
00:29:47,680 --> 00:29:50,000
Speaker 1: good as an eight win Sun Belt team usually is.

611
00:29:50,280 --> 00:29:51,800
Speaker 1: Coming back to the following year.

612
00:29:52,400 --> 00:29:54,680
Speaker 4: Mertle bats South Carolina where.

613
00:29:54,560 --> 00:29:57,880
Speaker 5: Highways meet the Oak Show here was just what the

614
00:29:58,040 --> 00:30:00,720
Speaker 5: doctor Rogers and very Matos.

615
00:30:00,760 --> 00:30:04,000
Speaker 2: I'm good. Think they're like the definition of some Belt

616
00:30:04,040 --> 00:30:06,560
Speaker 2: mid To me, I project them five to nine and

617
00:30:06,640 --> 00:30:09,160
Speaker 2: did their win totals like six? Getting to a Bowls

618
00:30:09,160 --> 00:30:10,959
Speaker 2: probably going to come down to like the last two games.

619
00:30:12,080 --> 00:30:13,920
Speaker 2: I have no interest in the win total. If I

620
00:30:13,920 --> 00:30:16,320
Speaker 2: had a bet, I would probably go under, just because

621
00:30:16,560 --> 00:30:19,560
Speaker 2: there's some things I just don't like about this team

622
00:30:20,080 --> 00:30:23,920
Speaker 2: this year. Wide receiver room gutted, really concerned. They're the

623
00:30:23,920 --> 00:30:28,400
Speaker 2: interior offensive line have some major concerns there, and their

624
00:30:28,440 --> 00:30:31,400
Speaker 2: special teams also is really bad. They lost like their

625
00:30:31,560 --> 00:30:34,640
Speaker 2: I think probably to me, their four or five best defenders,

626
00:30:34,680 --> 00:30:36,320
Speaker 2: so they lost some top tier talent and then if

627
00:30:36,320 --> 00:30:38,800
Speaker 2: you look at who they're replacing some of their talent.

628
00:30:38,800 --> 00:30:41,200
Speaker 2: They're leaning on a lot of like fcs D two

629
00:30:41,280 --> 00:30:45,640
Speaker 2: guys and last year's team. I agree. I was very

630
00:30:45,680 --> 00:30:49,320
Speaker 2: impressed with what Beck did given you know, they had

631
00:30:49,360 --> 00:30:52,680
Speaker 2: to use three two other quarterbacks guests and Vasco and

632
00:30:52,680 --> 00:30:55,760
Speaker 2: Basco did look good at times. I was impressed with

633
00:30:55,800 --> 00:30:58,120
Speaker 2: what he did. But there was a lot of super

634
00:30:58,160 --> 00:31:01,080
Speaker 2: seniors and Chadwell guys still on that team last year

635
00:31:01,600 --> 00:31:03,360
Speaker 2: and they're all gone. I mean there's sixty six new

636
00:31:03,360 --> 00:31:09,880
Speaker 2: players on this team, twenty nine transferred out. So yeah,

637
00:31:09,920 --> 00:31:12,280
Speaker 2: I think that there's a big there's a significant talent

638
00:31:12,360 --> 00:31:15,080
Speaker 2: drop off. I think from last year's team. They do

639
00:31:15,160 --> 00:31:19,360
Speaker 2: have an easy non con you know, they don't play

640
00:31:19,360 --> 00:31:21,160
Speaker 2: anybody off of a buy and host app State, but

641
00:31:21,200 --> 00:31:24,800
Speaker 2: there's some tricky league road games. You know, if things

642
00:31:24,840 --> 00:31:26,720
Speaker 2: go right, they could be Yeah. I mean, if everything

643
00:31:26,760 --> 00:31:28,880
Speaker 2: breaks out, they could be five to oh and they'll

644
00:31:28,920 --> 00:31:31,040
Speaker 2: be the ultimate fools, Goald. I mean, they get they

645
00:31:31,040 --> 00:31:33,360
Speaker 2: go at jack State, there'll be a small dog there.

646
00:31:33,920 --> 00:31:35,720
Speaker 2: William and Mary Well, I think it's like a top

647
00:31:35,760 --> 00:31:38,880
Speaker 2: twenty FCS team for what it's worth. At Temple Virginia

648
00:31:38,880 --> 00:31:41,320
Speaker 2: at home and Old Dominion at home, so they could

649
00:31:41,320 --> 00:31:43,640
Speaker 2: start off really fast and then yeah, we might get

650
00:31:43,680 --> 00:31:46,040
Speaker 2: an opportunity to fade them. Curious to see if beck

651
00:31:46,120 --> 00:31:48,880
Speaker 2: Like goes with more pro style with this offense now

652
00:31:48,880 --> 00:31:51,320
Speaker 2: that McCall's out and he's got a full offseason. I'm

653
00:31:51,320 --> 00:31:56,360
Speaker 2: curious see what their offense looks like. But I have

654
00:31:56,360 --> 00:31:58,160
Speaker 2: a lot of questions on both sides of the ball

655
00:31:58,240 --> 00:32:00,480
Speaker 2: for this team. I think there's a big talent drop off,

656
00:32:01,400 --> 00:32:04,240
Speaker 2: so I would bet under, but I projected it's an

657
00:32:04,280 --> 00:32:06,520
Speaker 2: easy schedule, right. I just respect him right around six,

658
00:32:06,520 --> 00:32:09,560
Speaker 2: but no interest in the futures. Don't see if the

659
00:32:09,560 --> 00:32:10,520
Speaker 2: take a high ceiling.

660
00:32:10,280 --> 00:32:12,400
Speaker 4: Here, yeah, I will put this under. To be honest

661
00:32:12,440 --> 00:32:14,720
Speaker 4: with you, Benham, GM has six, but other books have

662
00:32:14,760 --> 00:32:16,600
Speaker 4: six and a half. I'll take the inner six and

663
00:32:16,600 --> 00:32:19,760
Speaker 4: a half. I mean they lose McCall, they're two running backs,

664
00:32:19,800 --> 00:32:23,719
Speaker 4: two receivers, top four defenders. Basco, Yeah he looked okay,

665
00:32:23,880 --> 00:32:27,120
Speaker 4: but he's losing all of his supporting cast. They bring

666
00:32:27,120 --> 00:32:30,240
Speaker 4: in Noah Kim from Michigan State who was horrible for them,

667
00:32:30,360 --> 00:32:33,640
Speaker 4: so you know they have no receivers now that I

668
00:32:33,640 --> 00:32:36,120
Speaker 4: don't trust the defense and they don't get to play

669
00:32:36,320 --> 00:32:38,760
Speaker 4: Ulm or Southern miss You know, they get Temple, but

670
00:32:38,880 --> 00:32:42,120
Speaker 4: they don't get those kind of conference layups. And I

671
00:32:42,120 --> 00:32:45,760
Speaker 4: think they could probably squeak out six. But I don't

672
00:32:45,760 --> 00:32:48,480
Speaker 4: see where they get the seventh win from. And I've

673
00:32:48,520 --> 00:32:51,040
Speaker 4: mentioned it last year. I don't think Tim Beck is

674
00:32:51,040 --> 00:32:53,240
Speaker 4: a very good coach. I did not like him at

675
00:32:53,320 --> 00:32:55,840
Speaker 4: NC State. I hated the offenses he ran at n

676
00:32:55,920 --> 00:32:59,720
Speaker 4: C State and stuck. He said it perfectly. He just

677
00:33:00,040 --> 00:33:02,640
Speaker 4: he loses most of Cadwell's players, and I think that's

678
00:33:02,720 --> 00:33:04,760
Speaker 4: where he squeaked out the wins he did last year.

679
00:33:05,320 --> 00:33:07,760
Speaker 4: I don't think he does it this year. I'm fading.

680
00:33:07,800 --> 00:33:11,120
Speaker 4: This is mostly a fade of Tim Beck and having

681
00:33:11,120 --> 00:33:13,120
Speaker 4: to retool an offense in the defense, and I don't

682
00:33:13,120 --> 00:33:14,680
Speaker 4: think he's the guy to do it. So I'll take

683
00:33:14,760 --> 00:33:16,120
Speaker 4: under six and a half with Coastal.

684
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Speaker 1: All right, let's jump to Georgia Southern Clay Helton on

692
00:33:47,760 --> 00:33:50,320
Speaker 1: your three, two, six and seven campaigns with a pair

693
00:33:50,360 --> 00:33:52,600
Speaker 1: of bowl losses. They went three and five in the

694
00:33:52,600 --> 00:33:55,320
Speaker 1: sun Belt last season, lost to Ohio in the Myrtle

695
00:33:55,320 --> 00:33:57,080
Speaker 1: Beach Bowl. Their win total set at five and a

696
00:33:57,120 --> 00:33:59,360
Speaker 1: half to win the Sun Belt twenty five to one

697
00:33:59,440 --> 00:34:02,120
Speaker 1: to make the Coloriball playoff. Now it's getting pretty juicy.

698
00:34:02,280 --> 00:34:05,040
Speaker 1: Two hunderd to one for starters. I think I own

699
00:34:05,080 --> 00:34:07,880
Speaker 1: apology to Clay Helton. I mean, we hit him with

700
00:34:07,960 --> 00:34:12,160
Speaker 1: all the retread higher. This is uninspired. Statesboro deserves more.

701
00:34:12,920 --> 00:34:15,359
Speaker 1: And then what does he do? He finds a way,

702
00:34:15,360 --> 00:34:17,560
Speaker 1: coming off a three and nine season to pull over

703
00:34:17,600 --> 00:34:20,759
Speaker 1: the most extreme offensive makeover two years ago, going from

704
00:34:20,840 --> 00:34:23,359
Speaker 1: option principles to the air raid, and he's taking them

705
00:34:23,360 --> 00:34:26,880
Speaker 1: to two straight bowls. They're an entertaining, middling team. I

706
00:34:26,920 --> 00:34:29,200
Speaker 1: think they're going to be similar this year if they

707
00:34:29,200 --> 00:34:32,040
Speaker 1: can get the quarterback situation settled, because As of right now,

708
00:34:32,040 --> 00:34:35,160
Speaker 1: it's a QB battle between JC French and Dexter Williams.

709
00:34:35,320 --> 00:34:37,800
Speaker 1: French is a past first guy, Williams is a dual threat.

710
00:34:38,160 --> 00:34:40,480
Speaker 1: What's interesting is Ryan Applan is taken over as the

711
00:34:40,480 --> 00:34:42,840
Speaker 1: full time OC, and given his track record as an

712
00:34:42,840 --> 00:34:46,399
Speaker 1: OC at Western Kentucky and North Alabama, we could see

713
00:34:46,440 --> 00:34:48,160
Speaker 1: a bit more running than we have in the past

714
00:34:48,160 --> 00:34:50,400
Speaker 1: couple of years, and they certainly have the personnel to

715
00:34:50,440 --> 00:34:52,480
Speaker 1: do it. Jalen White, when healthy is a great G

716
00:34:52,640 --> 00:34:55,520
Speaker 1: five back, but only two offensive linemen and return in

717
00:34:55,520 --> 00:34:58,280
Speaker 1: front of him, so we'll see what happens there because

718
00:34:58,320 --> 00:35:00,359
Speaker 1: it would be a big difference. The Eagles were five

719
00:35:00,400 --> 00:35:02,880
Speaker 1: at pass rate in the past two seasons. I like

720
00:35:02,920 --> 00:35:05,440
Speaker 1: the receiver rooms still, even though they lost some guys

721
00:35:05,520 --> 00:35:08,600
Speaker 1: graduating moving out of the program. Devin Burgess junior is

722
00:35:08,600 --> 00:35:11,160
Speaker 1: still there, but everyone else has to grow up pretty

723
00:35:11,200 --> 00:35:13,439
Speaker 1: quickly around them because they pull Boise and Ole Miss

724
00:35:13,440 --> 00:35:17,520
Speaker 1: in September, so they could get exposed on the offensive side. Defensively,

725
00:35:17,680 --> 00:35:19,960
Speaker 1: there was a big uptick last year in turnovers and

726
00:35:20,000 --> 00:35:22,520
Speaker 1: havoc thanks to the hiring of Brandon Bailey. We talked

727
00:35:22,520 --> 00:35:25,400
Speaker 1: about a lot in the preseason him coming down from Buffalo.

728
00:35:25,680 --> 00:35:27,959
Speaker 1: Twenty twenty two, they were one hundred and twenty second

729
00:35:28,000 --> 00:35:32,080
Speaker 1: in tackles for loss, eighty fourth in turnovers forced. Last season,

730
00:35:32,360 --> 00:35:35,680
Speaker 1: seventeenth in tackles for lost, thirty fourth in turnovers force.

731
00:35:35,800 --> 00:35:39,040
Speaker 1: So even though they're not technically sound and they're you know,

732
00:35:39,080 --> 00:35:41,480
Speaker 1: you don't want to play a bend but not break

733
00:35:41,920 --> 00:35:43,839
Speaker 1: because you can just run through them. They are going

734
00:35:43,920 --> 00:35:46,120
Speaker 1: to take their shots. They're going to get aggressive. Sometimes

735
00:35:46,160 --> 00:35:48,840
Speaker 1: they get those turnovers, and when they do, good things happen.

736
00:35:48,840 --> 00:35:52,080
Speaker 1: They returned seven starters. Six of those seven are either

737
00:35:52,160 --> 00:35:54,960
Speaker 1: first or second team preseason All Sun Belt Conference, So

738
00:35:55,360 --> 00:35:57,120
Speaker 1: I think there's a good chance they finished with the

739
00:35:57,200 --> 00:36:00,200
Speaker 1: top let's call it four defense in the conference, which

740
00:36:00,239 --> 00:36:02,319
Speaker 1: is shocking considering where they were in twenty twenty two

741
00:36:02,360 --> 00:36:04,799
Speaker 1: when they gave up almost thirty two points per game.

742
00:36:05,560 --> 00:36:07,759
Speaker 1: I think the numbers just right. It's a pass for me,

743
00:36:07,920 --> 00:36:10,480
Speaker 1: but gun to my head, I think if the quarterback

744
00:36:10,800 --> 00:36:13,080
Speaker 1: they land on is the right one, they'll get to

745
00:36:13,120 --> 00:36:15,600
Speaker 1: six wins again. At Clay Hilton special, I think he's

746
00:36:15,600 --> 00:36:18,000
Speaker 1: going to hold the line here, get to six wins again,

747
00:36:18,080 --> 00:36:20,359
Speaker 1: get to another minor bowl game. I'll go to you first,

748
00:36:20,440 --> 00:36:23,040
Speaker 1: I and La, what are your thoughts in Statesborough with

749
00:36:23,120 --> 00:36:25,279
Speaker 1: Clay Hilton trying to finally get over the hump and

750
00:36:25,320 --> 00:36:27,399
Speaker 1: get them back to a winning record for the first

751
00:36:27,400 --> 00:36:28,160
Speaker 1: time in years.

752
00:36:28,400 --> 00:36:31,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm right there with you where you know. I

753
00:36:31,640 --> 00:36:34,800
Speaker 4: wanted to play this over so badly. They replaced Davis Brinn,

754
00:36:34,800 --> 00:36:35,839
Speaker 4: who listened to the pod.

755
00:36:35,960 --> 00:36:36,000
Speaker 2: No.

756
00:36:36,360 --> 00:36:40,160
Speaker 4: I hated him. He is nineteen year receptions back. He's

757
00:36:40,200 --> 00:36:42,880
Speaker 4: just a turnover machine, he said. You know, Dexter Williams

758
00:36:42,920 --> 00:36:46,920
Speaker 4: transferred to from Indiana after four years. Fun fact, Dexter

759
00:36:47,000 --> 00:36:49,960
Speaker 4: Williams his primary recruiter out of high school. It was

760
00:36:50,000 --> 00:36:53,920
Speaker 4: Kaitlin Debor. You mentioned that love the running backs, love

761
00:36:53,960 --> 00:36:57,480
Speaker 4: the receivers, love what they're bringing back on defense. I

762
00:36:57,560 --> 00:36:59,480
Speaker 4: was doing all my research. I was so ready to

763
00:36:59,520 --> 00:37:04,200
Speaker 4: bet this over and just the slight uncertainty quarterback. And

764
00:37:04,360 --> 00:37:08,799
Speaker 4: this schedule is brutal. They play ten Bowl teams from

765
00:37:08,920 --> 00:37:11,520
Speaker 4: last year, including Boise State and Ole Miss and the

766
00:37:11,600 --> 00:37:14,799
Speaker 4: non con and they play all the top teams in

767
00:37:14,840 --> 00:37:17,759
Speaker 4: the conference at home, which you don't want because they're

768
00:37:17,760 --> 00:37:20,320
Speaker 4: probably going to lose to Apup State, Troy James Madison

769
00:37:21,120 --> 00:37:23,920
Speaker 4: wherever they play them. And then all when you look

770
00:37:23,960 --> 00:37:26,879
Speaker 4: at those fifty to fifty coin flip games, Georgia State,

771
00:37:26,960 --> 00:37:30,960
Speaker 4: Old Dominions, South Alabama Coastal are all on the road,

772
00:37:31,160 --> 00:37:33,680
Speaker 4: so the way their schedule just breaks down just kind

773
00:37:33,680 --> 00:37:36,080
Speaker 4: of sucks for them. Gun ahead, I think they make

774
00:37:36,120 --> 00:37:38,640
Speaker 4: a bowl, but I just I have too much uncertainty

775
00:37:38,640 --> 00:37:41,960
Speaker 4: and I'm not confident enough to bet it. But I

776
00:37:42,000 --> 00:37:43,719
Speaker 4: do like this team, and I'll kind of pick those

777
00:37:43,719 --> 00:37:46,000
Speaker 4: fifty to fifty spots to play them for from some

778
00:37:46,160 --> 00:37:47,800
Speaker 4: road upsets.

779
00:37:47,760 --> 00:37:50,040
Speaker 1: They lost the scheduling lottery stuck. Is that too much

780
00:37:50,080 --> 00:37:50,920
Speaker 1: for them to overcome?

781
00:37:51,920 --> 00:37:54,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, I actually lean under here. If I can get

782
00:37:54,960 --> 00:37:59,319
Speaker 2: a six, then I think the best I could find

783
00:37:59,400 --> 00:38:03,560
Speaker 2: was like under and a half minus. Maybe it's six.

784
00:38:03,600 --> 00:38:06,480
Speaker 2: I'd probably play it. I might still play depending on

785
00:38:06,480 --> 00:38:09,120
Speaker 2: the QB battle shakes out. Dexter Williams probably the favorite.

786
00:38:09,560 --> 00:38:12,080
Speaker 2: I would assume you also have French in Dallas in

787
00:38:12,120 --> 00:38:15,799
Speaker 2: the mix. Williams has injury questions. I mean, he's been

788
00:38:15,880 --> 00:38:18,719
Speaker 2: hurt in the past. Hood is a big loss at

789
00:38:18,760 --> 00:38:22,080
Speaker 2: receiver for them. I do have concerns about the offensive line.

790
00:38:22,120 --> 00:38:24,439
Speaker 2: I didn't love who they brought in. Just overall, their

791
00:38:24,480 --> 00:38:29,120
Speaker 2: their transfer and recruiting class. You mentioned the d Yeah,

792
00:38:29,160 --> 00:38:31,360
Speaker 2: there's there's a lot of returning talent, especially up front

793
00:38:31,760 --> 00:38:33,520
Speaker 2: that they bring all four back by four to two

794
00:38:33,600 --> 00:38:36,399
Speaker 2: five base of their defensive line. I think that there's

795
00:38:36,440 --> 00:38:41,080
Speaker 2: some good pieces there, and Watson Trun's a good linebacker,

796
00:38:41,560 --> 00:38:45,320
Speaker 2: but I have major concerns about the secondary, specifically at cornerback.

797
00:38:45,960 --> 00:38:48,439
Speaker 2: T J. Smith's a really solid safety, but other than him,

798
00:38:49,040 --> 00:38:53,480
Speaker 2: this secondary doesn't give me a lot of faith in

799
00:38:53,520 --> 00:38:56,960
Speaker 2: this defense taking a major step. The bull case is

800
00:38:56,960 --> 00:38:58,719
Speaker 2: that yes, they get all that, like if you want

801
00:38:58,800 --> 00:39:01,040
Speaker 2: the better futures they get. They do get all the

802
00:39:01,080 --> 00:39:06,120
Speaker 2: top contenders from the division at home. But Sunbelt home

803
00:39:06,239 --> 00:39:11,319
Speaker 2: field advantage is literally the most overrated in all of

804
00:39:11,320 --> 00:39:14,319
Speaker 2: college football. If you just faded Sun Belt teams at

805
00:39:14,400 --> 00:39:18,160
Speaker 2: home home teams in conference games over the last twenty years,

806
00:39:18,960 --> 00:39:22,040
Speaker 2: you'd be up a mint very small home field advantage.

807
00:39:22,719 --> 00:39:26,480
Speaker 2: But you know, if the quarterback hits, and you know,

808
00:39:26,520 --> 00:39:29,400
Speaker 2: these corners from the portal hit, and then you have

809
00:39:29,440 --> 00:39:31,879
Speaker 2: the host the teams like maybe there's I could see

810
00:39:31,880 --> 00:39:34,759
Speaker 2: someone making a case for the future. I can't get there,

811
00:39:36,280 --> 00:39:39,839
Speaker 2: so lean under here might play it. Want to watch

812
00:39:39,880 --> 00:39:44,640
Speaker 2: the quarterback battle play out see if there's any other injuries.

813
00:39:44,760 --> 00:39:47,320
Speaker 2: Something worth noting is that I do watch injuries so closely,

814
00:39:47,400 --> 00:39:50,560
Speaker 2: especially in these groups of five conferences throughout camp. I've

815
00:39:50,560 --> 00:39:52,480
Speaker 2: always done this with the MAC. That's why I always

816
00:39:52,480 --> 00:39:54,480
Speaker 2: wait for the MAC manifesto, wait to play my MAC

817
00:39:54,520 --> 00:39:57,799
Speaker 2: bets because the MAC is always lacked depth right now.

818
00:39:57,800 --> 00:40:00,160
Speaker 2: A lot of these other group of five teams, they

819
00:40:00,239 --> 00:40:03,800
Speaker 2: really lacked out because they're just getting gutted by the portal.

820
00:40:03,920 --> 00:40:06,200
Speaker 2: So if you have a couple of key injuries, you

821
00:40:06,200 --> 00:40:08,800
Speaker 2: know on the offensive line, especially like a cluster leading

822
00:40:08,880 --> 00:40:12,440
Speaker 2: up to the season, that could really change the direction

823
00:40:12,480 --> 00:40:15,480
Speaker 2: of a season. So lean under here. It still comes

824
00:40:15,480 --> 00:40:17,120
Speaker 2: out of the quarterback, and I just don't There's a

825
00:40:17,120 --> 00:40:20,280
Speaker 2: lot of uncertainty, But losing Brinn is probably a positive.

826
00:40:20,400 --> 00:40:23,680
Speaker 2: He's just a turnover monster. They led the nation in

827
00:40:23,719 --> 00:40:26,480
Speaker 2: turnovers last year. They were owing two and one session games.

828
00:40:26,520 --> 00:40:30,800
Speaker 2: So there's some signs there this of some potential positive aggression,

829
00:40:30,840 --> 00:40:32,080
Speaker 2: but passed for me as of now.

830
00:40:34,440 --> 00:40:36,640
Speaker 1: All right, we'll keep moving here in the East onto

831
00:40:36,640 --> 00:40:39,399
Speaker 1: Marshall Charles Huff onto year four. He's gone bowling every

832
00:40:39,480 --> 00:40:40,960
Speaker 1: year with the Herd.

833
00:40:41,480 --> 00:40:50,640
Speaker 2: Let's go.

834
00:40:50,239 --> 00:40:52,040
Speaker 1: Six and seven. Last season three and five and some

835
00:40:52,200 --> 00:40:54,720
Speaker 1: Bell play they lose to UTSA and the Frisco Bowl.

836
00:40:54,960 --> 00:40:57,560
Speaker 1: They're win total. And this is probably the biggest range

837
00:40:57,600 --> 00:40:59,040
Speaker 1: that I've seen out in the market. Five and a

838
00:40:59,080 --> 00:41:00,560
Speaker 1: half all the way up to six and a half,

839
00:41:00,680 --> 00:41:02,680
Speaker 1: So make sure to shop around depending on which direction

840
00:41:02,760 --> 00:41:04,560
Speaker 1: you want to play it. Sixteen to one to win

841
00:41:04,600 --> 00:41:06,080
Speaker 1: the Sun Belt in ninety five to one to make

842
00:41:06,120 --> 00:41:09,120
Speaker 1: the College Football Playoff. Last year's big headline was a

843
00:41:09,120 --> 00:41:11,520
Speaker 1: big fat five game losing streak there in the middle.

844
00:41:11,680 --> 00:41:14,799
Speaker 1: And I mean, we kind of know what Huff likes

845
00:41:14,840 --> 00:41:17,279
Speaker 1: to do in terms of his offensive identity. He loves

846
00:41:17,280 --> 00:41:19,640
Speaker 1: a bell cow back. When Rasheina al Lee was healthy,

847
00:41:19,840 --> 00:41:22,960
Speaker 1: he received over fifty percent of all Marshall's carries. But

848
00:41:23,040 --> 00:41:25,400
Speaker 1: with only two returning starters on the line and Alie

849
00:41:25,440 --> 00:41:28,600
Speaker 1: off to the Baltimore Ravens, Huff is going big. He's

850
00:41:28,600 --> 00:41:31,920
Speaker 1: bringing in Seth Dage to run the air raid, new offense,

851
00:41:32,160 --> 00:41:36,319
Speaker 1: new identity, handing it over to Cole Pennington. So it'll

852
00:41:36,360 --> 00:41:38,719
Speaker 1: be interesting to see with him pulling the strings if

853
00:41:38,719 --> 00:41:41,040
Speaker 1: they have the personnel and the time to get this

854
00:41:41,160 --> 00:41:44,240
Speaker 1: offensive change right. Because we just talked about Georgia Southern

855
00:41:44,239 --> 00:41:46,239
Speaker 1: being able to pull it off. Going to the air

856
00:41:46,360 --> 00:41:49,400
Speaker 1: raid isn't a simple fix, and they went heavy in

857
00:41:49,440 --> 00:41:51,600
Speaker 1: the portal. They get wide receivers from North Carolina or

858
00:41:51,640 --> 00:41:55,640
Speaker 1: Miss Tulsa, Middle Tennessee to try to facilitate this. We'll

859
00:41:55,680 --> 00:41:58,319
Speaker 1: see if they can mesh together, if the vibes are right,

860
00:41:59,120 --> 00:42:02,120
Speaker 1: if the offense isn't humming right away. They got roadies

861
00:42:02,200 --> 00:42:04,879
Speaker 1: to Virginia Tech, Ohio State, and then they host app

862
00:42:04,920 --> 00:42:07,959
Speaker 1: State early in the conference slate, so they could get

863
00:42:08,239 --> 00:42:11,279
Speaker 1: pretty much humbled right away. They have some experience back

864
00:42:11,320 --> 00:42:14,200
Speaker 1: on all three levels of the defense, but zero preseason

865
00:42:14,280 --> 00:42:18,280
Speaker 1: all Big All Sun Belt Conference defenders. The Herd finished

866
00:42:18,320 --> 00:42:20,120
Speaker 1: twenty second in sacks per game last year, but they

867
00:42:20,120 --> 00:42:23,319
Speaker 1: only fit forced eighteen turnovers all season long. So I'm

868
00:42:23,320 --> 00:42:25,200
Speaker 1: gonna say this, I'm out on the refresh I'm gonna

869
00:42:25,200 --> 00:42:27,160
Speaker 1: go over. I'm gonna go under on the win total,

870
00:42:27,320 --> 00:42:29,640
Speaker 1: particularly getting six and a half. I may lay the

871
00:42:29,680 --> 00:42:31,800
Speaker 1: extra juice to get it. When I look at the schedule,

872
00:42:31,840 --> 00:42:33,759
Speaker 1: I think they're gonna get banged up. I think there's

873
00:42:33,800 --> 00:42:36,280
Speaker 1: a chance that Cole Pennington doesn't make it out healthy

874
00:42:36,320 --> 00:42:39,040
Speaker 1: from those two games against pot Tech and Ohio State,

875
00:42:39,320 --> 00:42:42,240
Speaker 1: and if he is not there, Stuck's banging the drum

876
00:42:42,480 --> 00:42:46,160
Speaker 1: on depth is shues and experience. I totally agree this

877
00:42:46,320 --> 00:42:48,759
Speaker 1: is a big problem. They built this whole offense for him.

878
00:42:49,040 --> 00:42:50,680
Speaker 1: He needs to have a big year for them to

879
00:42:50,719 --> 00:42:53,040
Speaker 1: win six or seven games, and I think if he

880
00:42:53,080 --> 00:42:56,080
Speaker 1: gets banged up and misses any significant time, the bottom

881
00:42:56,080 --> 00:42:58,880
Speaker 1: could fall out here on this move to the area.

882
00:42:59,040 --> 00:43:01,080
Speaker 1: So I'm gonna put my first stake in the ground

883
00:43:01,120 --> 00:43:03,000
Speaker 1: for an under year with Marshall.

884
00:43:03,040 --> 00:43:06,000
Speaker 2: What are your thoughts, Stuck, Yeah, I project them at

885
00:43:06,040 --> 00:43:08,600
Speaker 2: like five seven. This could go really south quick. I

886
00:43:08,600 --> 00:43:11,040
Speaker 2: know that the administration came out and said that Puff

887
00:43:11,160 --> 00:43:13,680
Speaker 2: is not under pressure this year, but I think he's

888
00:43:13,719 --> 00:43:17,400
Speaker 2: squarely on the hot seat, and these seem like desperation moves.

889
00:43:17,440 --> 00:43:21,480
Speaker 2: I mean, look that they just got crushed in the offseason.

890
00:43:22,440 --> 00:43:24,120
Speaker 2: They were one of only four group of five teams,

891
00:43:24,160 --> 00:43:25,960
Speaker 2: by the way, they had multiple draft picks last year.

892
00:43:26,480 --> 00:43:29,360
Speaker 2: They lost Ali, the running back you mentioned, and then Abraham,

893
00:43:29,400 --> 00:43:32,359
Speaker 2: their stud corner, went to the Colts. The other three

894
00:43:32,360 --> 00:43:39,720
Speaker 2: teams by the way are Troy, UTEP and I'm forgetting

895
00:43:39,760 --> 00:43:44,879
Speaker 2: the other one I'll remember, and four others signed as

896
00:43:45,200 --> 00:43:48,640
Speaker 2: undrafted free agents. Two offensive linemen order their d n

897
00:43:48,760 --> 00:43:51,200
Speaker 2: and their linebacker Neil, and then you go to the

898
00:43:51,239 --> 00:43:53,120
Speaker 2: portal and some of the guys that they lost, I

899
00:43:53,120 --> 00:43:57,600
Speaker 2: mean losing Harrison and Enterdainment wide receiver Dix to Arkansas linebacker.

900
00:43:58,160 --> 00:44:01,080
Speaker 2: Then they lose Hill after spring their other corner to Miami.

901
00:44:01,600 --> 00:44:03,960
Speaker 2: It also lose Austin, their other defensive end in Miami.

902
00:44:04,040 --> 00:44:06,040
Speaker 2: That's where Gidury went, who was the defensive coordinator two

903
00:44:06,120 --> 00:44:09,759
Speaker 2: years ago for Marshall. Then last year their defense just

904
00:44:09,880 --> 00:44:12,759
Speaker 2: fell off a cliff rest of four, two, five, just

905
00:44:12,800 --> 00:44:17,840
Speaker 2: get up so many big plays the you know, the

906
00:44:17,880 --> 00:44:20,160
Speaker 2: biggest question here and the bowl case. If you want

907
00:44:20,160 --> 00:44:22,080
Speaker 2: to invest in Marshall's like, yeah, a couple of years

908
00:44:22,080 --> 00:44:25,879
Speaker 2: ago they were winning seven eight games and he did

909
00:44:25,880 --> 00:44:28,960
Speaker 2: bring in right, they lost thirty four guys. He brought

910
00:44:29,000 --> 00:44:33,239
Speaker 2: in thirty transfers, eighteen Power four teams, So there is

911
00:44:33,280 --> 00:44:36,600
Speaker 2: some pedigree. So this is a lot has to go right.

912
00:44:36,920 --> 00:44:39,040
Speaker 2: You gotta find your quarterback, you have a new I'm

913
00:44:39,040 --> 00:44:41,640
Speaker 2: worried about the offensive line too. You gotta have the system,

914
00:44:42,080 --> 00:44:44,680
Speaker 2: you know, a new scheme, new offensive line coach, even,

915
00:44:44,719 --> 00:44:46,640
Speaker 2: you gotta have all that come together with the right quarterbacks,

916
00:44:46,640 --> 00:44:49,560
Speaker 2: I don't think they have. And then the defense, you got,

917
00:44:49,640 --> 00:44:53,520
Speaker 2: all these transfers have to hit, so everything I could

918
00:44:53,520 --> 00:44:56,600
Speaker 2: see that there's like a talent upside argument assuming you

919
00:44:56,640 --> 00:45:00,600
Speaker 2: have the quarterback. Not enough for me to get involved.

920
00:45:01,160 --> 00:45:03,680
Speaker 2: You know, there's even some like positive defense, you know,

921
00:45:04,040 --> 00:45:08,479
Speaker 2: positive red zone defense numbers, turnovers, they were minus eleven

922
00:45:08,560 --> 00:45:10,280
Speaker 2: last year, but they won a ton of close games.

923
00:45:11,760 --> 00:45:15,080
Speaker 2: I'm just I'm I was high on this higher puff,

924
00:45:15,080 --> 00:45:16,719
Speaker 2: I'm I'm out on it now. I think this is

925
00:45:16,719 --> 00:45:19,640
Speaker 2: gonna end up being his last year. I just don't

926
00:45:19,640 --> 00:45:24,160
Speaker 2: see it with Pennington or Braxton, the Tulsa transfer. Griffiths

927
00:45:24,200 --> 00:45:25,800
Speaker 2: was supposed to be in the mix, but he retired

928
00:45:25,800 --> 00:45:31,680
Speaker 2: from football this month, so he's out. I just I

929
00:45:31,719 --> 00:45:38,440
Speaker 2: don't see it. So I'm lean under It could get

930
00:45:38,440 --> 00:45:41,960
Speaker 2: really ugly if they have like an ugly loss early on,

931
00:45:42,080 --> 00:45:47,000
Speaker 2: like if they lose like Western Michigan or god forbid,

932
00:45:47,040 --> 00:45:50,879
Speaker 2: stony Brook, it could get really ugly. But this has

933
00:45:50,880 --> 00:45:51,360
Speaker 2: passed for me.

934
00:45:52,200 --> 00:45:54,120
Speaker 1: All Right, we got three under here, Iel, what do

935
00:45:54,120 --> 00:45:54,439
Speaker 1: you think?

936
00:45:55,000 --> 00:45:58,839
Speaker 4: So kind of obviously I'm a big Charlestoff guy Penn Stater,

937
00:45:59,120 --> 00:46:01,520
Speaker 4: but yeah, I mean him being twenty two and seventeen

938
00:46:01,520 --> 00:46:04,680
Speaker 4: in three years. Has been pretty disappointing in especially when

939
00:46:04,719 --> 00:46:07,040
Speaker 4: you know everything stuck. He said about the draft picks,

940
00:46:07,080 --> 00:46:10,799
Speaker 4: like he's had talented teams this year again they brought

941
00:46:10,840 --> 00:46:14,000
Speaker 4: in a ton of Power five transfers. They just can't

942
00:46:14,040 --> 00:46:17,799
Speaker 4: get the quarterback right. Cam Fancher was ass And you

943
00:46:17,840 --> 00:46:22,760
Speaker 4: look at Pennington, who got some play last year. Zero touchdown,

944
00:46:22,840 --> 00:46:25,840
Speaker 4: six interceptions he averaged. He completed fifty six percent of

945
00:46:25,880 --> 00:46:28,920
Speaker 4: his passes, so he was worse than Fancer by every metric.

946
00:46:29,239 --> 00:46:31,960
Speaker 4: If you watched him play, it was almost worse than that.

947
00:46:32,040 --> 00:46:34,799
Speaker 4: He's terrible. And now they all of a sudden want

948
00:46:34,800 --> 00:46:37,520
Speaker 4: to throw the ball more. They should, you know, they

949
00:46:37,520 --> 00:46:40,719
Speaker 4: should give the ball to Ethan Payne every play. So

950
00:46:41,000 --> 00:46:43,400
Speaker 4: I hate what they're doing with the offense. The defense

951
00:46:44,040 --> 00:46:45,920
Speaker 4: I kind of just trust will be good again, even

952
00:46:45,960 --> 00:46:48,160
Speaker 4: though they're replacing a ton because Poff always seems to

953
00:46:48,160 --> 00:46:52,400
Speaker 4: have a good defense. To me, this this looks like

954
00:46:52,400 --> 00:46:54,279
Speaker 4: a six and sixteam. It feels like a six and

955
00:46:54,320 --> 00:46:57,160
Speaker 4: six team. And you mentioned the wide range of outcomes.

956
00:46:57,640 --> 00:47:00,319
Speaker 4: You know you're paying. I'm looking right now. The the

957
00:47:00,440 --> 00:47:02,839
Speaker 4: under six and a half is minus one seventy five

958
00:47:02,880 --> 00:47:06,120
Speaker 4: at BETMGM over five and a half at other books

959
00:47:06,120 --> 00:47:09,279
Speaker 4: are minus one p fifty, so you're paying juice on

960
00:47:09,320 --> 00:47:11,200
Speaker 4: either end. I think they go six and six, so

961
00:47:11,280 --> 00:47:12,319
Speaker 4: it's just a pass for me.

962
00:47:12,719 --> 00:47:15,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, they do have a high floor, I think, unless

963
00:47:15,239 --> 00:47:16,759
Speaker 2: like they lose one of the really early games and

964
00:47:16,800 --> 00:47:18,799
Speaker 2: the team quits on top and it gets ugly. But

965
00:47:18,840 --> 00:47:21,040
Speaker 2: they play seven teams and I have power right outside

966
00:47:21,080 --> 00:47:23,440
Speaker 2: the top one hundred. There's a lot of winnable games

967
00:47:23,480 --> 00:47:26,719
Speaker 2: on this schedule. One thing I'll mention that could come

968
00:47:26,719 --> 00:47:28,959
Speaker 2: into play because, like think about some of these games,

969
00:47:28,960 --> 00:47:30,520
Speaker 2: it could be really close, could play a lot of

970
00:47:30,520 --> 00:47:33,000
Speaker 2: close games. Their special teams could be bad, bad, and

971
00:47:33,040 --> 00:47:35,239
Speaker 2: that might swing it one or two games. The other

972
00:47:35,280 --> 00:47:37,919
Speaker 2: way ended up going under. But this is a pass

973
00:47:37,960 --> 00:47:38,200
Speaker 2: for me.

974
00:47:40,000 --> 00:47:43,080
Speaker 1: All right on to Old Dominion. Actually, looking at my notes,

975
00:47:43,120 --> 00:47:44,759
Speaker 1: I had more to say about the Monarchs than I

976
00:47:44,840 --> 00:47:46,040
Speaker 1: thought before I got in.

977
00:47:46,480 --> 00:47:48,680
Speaker 2: So much to say about Old Dominion, thank god.

978
00:47:48,719 --> 00:47:51,040
Speaker 4: So we're gonna get into it positive from both of you.

979
00:47:52,320 --> 00:47:56,520
Speaker 1: Ricky Ronnie year five zero winning seasons, but two Bowl

980
00:47:56,560 --> 00:47:58,960
Speaker 1: bids six and seven. Last year winning record in the

981
00:47:58,960 --> 00:48:01,520
Speaker 1: Sun Belt five and three. They blow that game to

982
00:48:01,560 --> 00:48:05,000
Speaker 1: Western Kentucky in the famous Toastery Bawl blew a twenty

983
00:48:05,040 --> 00:48:08,080
Speaker 1: eight to nothing lead. I will never forgive him for that.

984
00:48:08,080 --> 00:48:10,759
Speaker 1: That almost ruined my entire bowl season. Had to pull

985
00:48:10,800 --> 00:48:13,320
Speaker 1: myself out of that tailspin. Their win total four and

986
00:48:13,320 --> 00:48:15,440
Speaker 1: a half to win the Sun Belt thirty to one

987
00:48:15,480 --> 00:48:17,480
Speaker 1: to make the College Football Playoff. If you feel a

988
00:48:17,560 --> 00:48:20,560
Speaker 1: nuts two hundred to one, one of the least impacted

989
00:48:20,600 --> 00:48:22,640
Speaker 1: teams in terms of the portal dead even in terms

990
00:48:22,680 --> 00:48:25,560
Speaker 1: of net tarp and when you get into the coaching staff.

991
00:48:25,600 --> 00:48:27,799
Speaker 1: Year one of Kevin Decker's offense was a bit of

992
00:48:27,840 --> 00:48:31,360
Speaker 1: a bust. He had orchestrated monster offenses at Fordham, but

993
00:48:31,400 --> 00:48:33,600
Speaker 1: it took a while for Grant Wilson to settle in

994
00:48:33,640 --> 00:48:36,359
Speaker 1: as the starter. His upside was clear in the near

995
00:48:36,440 --> 00:48:38,600
Speaker 1: upset at James Madison. Is one hundred and twenty six

996
00:48:38,680 --> 00:48:40,920
Speaker 1: yards on the ground and two scores in the bowl

997
00:48:40,920 --> 00:48:43,879
Speaker 1: game certainly speak to his dual threat abilities. They bring

998
00:48:43,920 --> 00:48:47,200
Speaker 1: in Power five transfers Deontay Vines from Iowa and Miles

999
00:48:47,239 --> 00:48:50,279
Speaker 1: Austin from Pittsburgh, who they both turned some heads in

1000
00:48:50,360 --> 00:48:53,120
Speaker 1: the spring game at receiver, So maybe with some extra

1001
00:48:53,160 --> 00:48:57,200
Speaker 1: weapons the offense can take a step forward defensively. I

1002
00:48:57,239 --> 00:48:59,160
Speaker 1: need a thirty for thirty to figure out how they

1003
00:48:59,239 --> 00:49:02,160
Speaker 1: kept Jason ham both out of the NFL or out

1004
00:49:02,160 --> 00:49:04,120
Speaker 1: of the portal because he was a first team All

1005
00:49:04,160 --> 00:49:07,919
Speaker 1: American at Old Dominion and he's still there. He's back.

1006
00:49:08,000 --> 00:49:10,480
Speaker 1: He led the country and tackles per game with fourteen

1007
00:49:10,520 --> 00:49:13,200
Speaker 1: point two, third in tackles for loss per game at

1008
00:49:13,200 --> 00:49:16,200
Speaker 1: one point six. He has four hundred and thirty six

1009
00:49:16,239 --> 00:49:18,960
Speaker 1: career tackles, which obviously is an Old Dominion record, but

1010
00:49:19,080 --> 00:49:22,560
Speaker 1: he's targeting Carlton Marshall, the G five legend from Troy.

1011
00:49:22,760 --> 00:49:25,080
Speaker 1: He holds the record at five seventy seven. If he

1012
00:49:25,160 --> 00:49:27,080
Speaker 1: just matches his total from last year, he's going to

1013
00:49:27,080 --> 00:49:29,080
Speaker 1: blow past that. He might be the first player to

1014
00:49:29,080 --> 00:49:32,640
Speaker 1: ever get to six hundred. It's phenomenal. Unfortunately, the rest

1015
00:49:32,680 --> 00:49:35,040
Speaker 1: of the defense, they lose a stud like Wayne Matthews

1016
00:49:35,120 --> 00:49:38,200
Speaker 1: to Michigan State almost ten tackles for a loss last season.

1017
00:49:38,520 --> 00:49:42,040
Speaker 1: The whole secondary is patchwork with transfers, and they're already

1018
00:49:42,040 --> 00:49:43,800
Speaker 1: trash to begin with. They still found a way to

1019
00:49:43,840 --> 00:49:46,960
Speaker 1: feel a slightly below average defense overall, but I still

1020
00:49:47,000 --> 00:49:50,120
Speaker 1: have serious concerns about their secondary and Here's where I

1021
00:49:50,120 --> 00:49:52,799
Speaker 1: start moving off of them in a serious way, because

1022
00:49:52,840 --> 00:49:55,400
Speaker 1: when you'll get the schedule at South Carolina home against

1023
00:49:55,440 --> 00:49:59,239
Speaker 1: Virginia Tech at Bowling Green, Early's.

1024
00:49:58,520 --> 00:50:00,560
Speaker 2: At home too, it's not easy exactly.

1025
00:50:00,600 --> 00:50:03,120
Speaker 1: And then in Sunbelt play they burn their home games

1026
00:50:03,160 --> 00:50:05,719
Speaker 1: against Texas State and James Madison. I don't see them

1027
00:50:05,760 --> 00:50:08,239
Speaker 1: winning that. Then they're traveling to app State Coastal and

1028
00:50:08,280 --> 00:50:10,920
Speaker 1: a vastly improved on State team that we'll get to

1029
00:50:11,040 --> 00:50:13,839
Speaker 1: later out west. To get to five wins, you're gonna

1030
00:50:13,880 --> 00:50:16,560
Speaker 1: need two to three upsets or wins and coin flips.

1031
00:50:17,040 --> 00:50:19,920
Speaker 1: I mean, you can't call the East Carolina game an

1032
00:50:19,920 --> 00:50:22,719
Speaker 1: easy win, certainly not. And then at Georgia State that

1033
00:50:22,760 --> 00:50:24,840
Speaker 1: becomes a must win to get over this win total.

1034
00:50:24,920 --> 00:50:27,480
Speaker 1: So I'm gonna go under on them. I think this

1035
00:50:27,520 --> 00:50:31,040
Speaker 1: team feels very shaky, So I'm gonna go away and

1036
00:50:31,080 --> 00:50:33,360
Speaker 1: fade at Ricky Ronnie here, I think you were just

1037
00:50:33,400 --> 00:50:36,160
Speaker 1: calling for maybe Huff's last season there with Marshall. I

1038
00:50:36,239 --> 00:50:38,680
Speaker 1: think this is the last one with Ronnie at Odu.

1039
00:50:38,920 --> 00:50:41,000
Speaker 1: He had his time, had his time to field a

1040
00:50:41,040 --> 00:50:42,359
Speaker 1: winning season, hasn't done.

1041
00:50:42,400 --> 00:50:48,200
Speaker 2: How much pressure before I know makes his case for

1042
00:50:48,520 --> 00:50:54,640
Speaker 2: the Monarchs making the COACHUWA playoff. Look, yeah, I hate

1043
00:50:54,680 --> 00:50:58,040
Speaker 2: this team. I love the under. It's my favorite under,

1044
00:50:59,000 --> 00:51:02,920
Speaker 2: one of my two favorite totals in the Sunbolt. And

1045
00:51:02,960 --> 00:51:04,719
Speaker 2: I hate this team because I had the under last

1046
00:51:04,800 --> 00:51:07,200
Speaker 2: year and then I bet them in the bowl game

1047
00:51:07,280 --> 00:51:10,640
Speaker 2: and they blew that lead. Still not forgiving them. But

1048
00:51:10,719 --> 00:51:12,839
Speaker 2: let's go back to last year, right. They won six

1049
00:51:12,960 --> 00:51:18,840
Speaker 2: six games in the regular season. Let's see Southern Miss

1050
00:51:19,080 --> 00:51:22,840
Speaker 2: who was horrendous, ended the game at the one the

1051
00:51:22,880 --> 00:51:25,919
Speaker 2: one yard line, didn't get in On the final play

1052
00:51:25,960 --> 00:51:30,080
Speaker 2: of the game. Texas A and M Commerce in Norfolk

1053
00:51:30,440 --> 00:51:33,279
Speaker 2: had a two point conversion to win. They didn't get it.

1054
00:51:33,320 --> 00:51:36,799
Speaker 2: They lost ten to nine to Old Dominion. They won

1055
00:51:36,840 --> 00:51:40,240
Speaker 2: in the final second against app State after a fourth

1056
00:51:40,239 --> 00:51:45,120
Speaker 2: and ten conversion. They beat Georgia Southern in the final seconds.

1057
00:51:45,200 --> 00:51:48,759
Speaker 2: They beat Georgia State in the final seconds after a

1058
00:51:48,800 --> 00:51:53,080
Speaker 2: blocked field goal a kick they then they kicked it.

1059
00:51:53,160 --> 00:51:57,399
Speaker 2: They kicked the field goal. Gotta stop kicked it off.

1060
00:51:57,400 --> 00:51:58,919
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, let me go back to this. This game

1061
00:51:58,960 --> 00:52:00,799
Speaker 2: is ridiculous. You didn't see it. Georgia State was up

1062
00:52:00,840 --> 00:52:03,400
Speaker 2: I think ten or eleven in the fourth quarter. Late

1063
00:52:03,400 --> 00:52:06,640
Speaker 2: in the fourth quarter, old dominion blocks a field goal.

1064
00:52:06,920 --> 00:52:09,640
Speaker 2: Kick a field goal. Kick it off. Georgia State was

1065
00:52:09,680 --> 00:52:12,759
Speaker 2: off sides on the kickoff of two minutes ago, so

1066
00:52:12,800 --> 00:52:14,959
Speaker 2: they kick it again, kick it off again. They would

1067
00:52:14,960 --> 00:52:17,759
Speaker 2: have started like the forty. They started a ten. They

1068
00:52:17,840 --> 00:52:20,960
Speaker 2: run five yards backwards, then snap it over their head safety.

1069
00:52:21,880 --> 00:52:23,239
Speaker 2: They aled him in and he gets the ball back,

1070
00:52:23,280 --> 00:52:25,920
Speaker 2: scores on the last play and wins. I mean, this

1071
00:52:25,960 --> 00:52:30,399
Speaker 2: is ridiculous. Their wins last year six to one possession wins. Yes,

1072
00:52:30,440 --> 00:52:33,319
Speaker 2: they lost the Coastal at the final second. I get it.

1073
00:52:33,719 --> 00:52:35,640
Speaker 2: But this team's just losing talent. They lost two wide

1074
00:52:35,640 --> 00:52:37,880
Speaker 2: receivers to Power four teams. They lost the right tackle

1075
00:52:37,960 --> 00:52:41,080
Speaker 2: to Memphis. Five of their top six tackles are gone

1076
00:52:41,320 --> 00:52:45,520
Speaker 2: four to Power four. So they'd had some talent around Henderson.

1077
00:52:46,520 --> 00:52:48,600
Speaker 2: The talent that they did have, it's gone and they're

1078
00:52:48,600 --> 00:52:52,600
Speaker 2: not replacing it that underwhelming recruiting. They're losing talent. I

1079
00:52:52,640 --> 00:52:55,279
Speaker 2: get it. Wilson's back at quarterback, second year of the

1080
00:52:55,320 --> 00:53:00,400
Speaker 2: system with Decker, with the Fordham connection, But schedules brutal.

1081
00:53:00,480 --> 00:53:03,680
Speaker 2: This is a brutal schedule for a Sun Belt team.

1082
00:53:04,120 --> 00:53:05,640
Speaker 2: I like the under you can find under four and

1083
00:53:05,640 --> 00:53:08,760
Speaker 2: a half minus one twenty still out there. I project

1084
00:53:08,800 --> 00:53:11,439
Speaker 2: three point eight ish, three point eight, three point nine.

1085
00:53:12,360 --> 00:53:14,520
Speaker 2: I just don't see it. I mean, there's a tell

1086
00:53:14,520 --> 00:53:16,439
Speaker 2: me the game on their schedule where you're like, that's

1087
00:53:16,440 --> 00:53:20,000
Speaker 2: a win, can't I wouldn't be surprised, and I hate

1088
00:53:20,000 --> 00:53:23,000
Speaker 2: the way that they're scheduled for them at South Carolina

1089
00:53:23,040 --> 00:53:25,479
Speaker 2: ecu VA Tech at BG could be zero to four.

1090
00:53:26,480 --> 00:53:28,319
Speaker 2: Then you got to go to start league play two

1091
00:53:28,520 --> 00:53:31,360
Speaker 2: back to back road games, your second and third straight

1092
00:53:31,440 --> 00:53:33,560
Speaker 2: road games. And by the way, both those teams are

1093
00:53:33,560 --> 00:53:36,359
Speaker 2: off the bye Coastal and Georgia State, those are two

1094
00:53:36,360 --> 00:53:37,880
Speaker 2: of the teams you want to get wins against. This

1095
00:53:37,960 --> 00:53:40,440
Speaker 2: team could be oh and six with ease, and then

1096
00:53:40,480 --> 00:53:43,879
Speaker 2: you got Texas State, APP State, JMU ARC State still

1097
00:53:43,880 --> 00:53:46,480
Speaker 2: on your schedule, and you better beat Georgia Southern Marshall

1098
00:53:46,560 --> 00:53:50,719
Speaker 2: or you're going on in twelve. Hold themnion under well.

1099
00:53:50,760 --> 00:53:52,880
Speaker 1: I mean, before you get in with your full throated

1100
00:53:52,960 --> 00:53:56,160
Speaker 1: defense of the Monarchs, I would just say overall, the

1101
00:53:56,160 --> 00:53:58,120
Speaker 1: feel of the season is kind of going to be

1102
00:53:58,640 --> 00:54:01,120
Speaker 1: like a baseball team that is fifteen games out of

1103
00:54:01,120 --> 00:54:02,759
Speaker 1: the wild card, but they have a hitter who may

1104
00:54:02,800 --> 00:54:05,399
Speaker 1: get to three thousand hits, so people just show up

1105
00:54:05,440 --> 00:54:08,000
Speaker 1: to kind of see the record, see a little bit

1106
00:54:08,040 --> 00:54:11,000
Speaker 1: of history, punch a ticket, watch Jason Henderson tackle twenty

1107
00:54:11,040 --> 00:54:14,000
Speaker 1: two guys. I think that's it, but please take the

1108
00:54:14,080 --> 00:54:17,160
Speaker 1: mic here let's hear defense of ODU.

1109
00:54:17,360 --> 00:54:19,760
Speaker 4: First of all, I want to say I was obviously

1110
00:54:19,760 --> 00:54:21,680
Speaker 4: not listening to any of your guys slander. I was

1111
00:54:21,680 --> 00:54:24,200
Speaker 4: too busy trying to look up who we think was

1112
00:54:24,239 --> 00:54:26,840
Speaker 4: the one that wrote that fat check to keep Jason Henderson.

1113
00:54:26,880 --> 00:54:30,479
Speaker 4: There a the odds on favorites. Probably justin Verlander. Could

1114
00:54:30,480 --> 00:54:32,600
Speaker 4: have been Taylor Heineke. He's been an NFL backup for

1115
00:54:32,640 --> 00:54:34,320
Speaker 4: like eight years. I don't know what he's getting paid.

1116
00:54:34,520 --> 00:54:37,839
Speaker 4: Sneaky dark horses. Maya Angelo, I'm not even sure if

1117
00:54:37,840 --> 00:54:41,120
Speaker 4: she's still alive, but maybe her estate fit the bill

1118
00:54:41,360 --> 00:54:44,280
Speaker 4: or a real dark horse, and I think a good value.

1119
00:54:44,640 --> 00:54:49,160
Speaker 4: Ben Bailey did the cash cab keep Jason Henderson at

1120
00:54:49,200 --> 00:54:49,840
Speaker 4: Old Dominion.

1121
00:54:50,800 --> 00:54:53,239
Speaker 1: There are thirteen thousand cabs in the streets of the

1122
00:54:53,280 --> 00:54:53,680
Speaker 1: Big app.

1123
00:54:54,200 --> 00:54:56,600
Speaker 2: If there's only one that pays.

1124
00:54:56,280 --> 00:54:59,520
Speaker 4: You, I will say disclaimer. I went to Penn State.

1125
00:55:00,000 --> 00:55:02,400
Speaker 4: I love Ricky Ronnie. We should put a disclaimer on

1126
00:55:02,440 --> 00:55:05,320
Speaker 4: the YouTube, like warning this is coming from a delusional

1127
00:55:05,400 --> 00:55:07,480
Speaker 4: Penn State fan. Who Ricky Ronny, you.

1128
00:55:07,440 --> 00:55:09,719
Speaker 1: Just say, Penn State fan, you don't need that extra modifier.

1129
00:55:10,040 --> 00:55:12,120
Speaker 4: Ricky Ronnie literly tweeted at me last year saying that

1130
00:55:12,160 --> 00:55:14,160
Speaker 4: he wants my son to call him uncle Ricky so

1131
00:55:14,200 --> 00:55:15,320
Speaker 4: and then of course he blew the game and he

1132
00:55:15,320 --> 00:55:16,880
Speaker 4: would have got to name him if he won that.

1133
00:55:16,960 --> 00:55:22,799
Speaker 4: But anyway, Yeah, I liked I liked the offense. You know,

1134
00:55:23,040 --> 00:55:25,399
Speaker 4: I love Grant Wilson. I love the weapons they have back.

1135
00:55:25,920 --> 00:55:29,320
Speaker 4: Even with Murphy transferring in the spring, Kelby Williams, Isaiah

1136
00:55:29,360 --> 00:55:31,960
Speaker 4: Page your back. They lose their running backs, but I

1137
00:55:31,960 --> 00:55:34,480
Speaker 4: think they replay some fine. With Bryce Duke from Virginia

1138
00:55:34,480 --> 00:55:37,600
Speaker 4: at tacking Aaron Young from Rutgers offensive line is going

1139
00:55:37,680 --> 00:55:39,439
Speaker 4: to be an issue. It was an issue last year

1140
00:55:40,040 --> 00:55:43,200
Speaker 4: the most in the country. Yeah, they got grand Wilson

1141
00:55:43,280 --> 00:55:47,440
Speaker 4: got smashed and they team played some crazy games. But

1142
00:55:48,560 --> 00:55:50,960
Speaker 4: there's something about that, like that's just they're like DNA.

1143
00:55:51,080 --> 00:55:54,760
Speaker 4: Like Grant Wilson is just all buff, he's so clatch,

1144
00:55:54,840 --> 00:55:57,319
Speaker 4: he's so good in the end, and this team just

1145
00:55:57,400 --> 00:56:00,640
Speaker 4: plays hard for Ricky Ronnie. They they always had, They've

1146
00:56:00,640 --> 00:56:02,640
Speaker 4: done it for three seasons now they've reached the ball

1147
00:56:02,680 --> 00:56:05,399
Speaker 4: and two of them they made a Bowl in one

1148
00:56:05,719 --> 00:56:08,640
Speaker 4: one bowl in six seasons before running got there. Now

1149
00:56:08,680 --> 00:56:11,960
Speaker 4: they've got it in two and three. Look, I'll be honest,

1150
00:56:12,080 --> 00:56:13,799
Speaker 4: I wanted to bet it just because I love them,

1151
00:56:13,840 --> 00:56:16,399
Speaker 4: but the schedule is brutal, so I have to take

1152
00:56:16,440 --> 00:56:19,880
Speaker 4: my bias off a little bit, and I can't do

1153
00:56:20,040 --> 00:56:20,799
Speaker 4: it with the over.

1154
00:56:21,440 --> 00:56:24,239
Speaker 2: That's the biggest case. That's the most bullish case for

1155
00:56:24,280 --> 00:56:26,600
Speaker 2: the under, as I won't bet the over, So that's

1156
00:56:26,600 --> 00:56:27,839
Speaker 2: all you need to know. What I will.

1157
00:56:28,080 --> 00:56:30,880
Speaker 4: They basically have to sweep their coin flip coin flip games,

1158
00:56:30,920 --> 00:56:33,320
Speaker 4: so what I'm just gonna bet them against East Carolina

1159
00:56:33,880 --> 00:56:36,160
Speaker 4: and probably Georgia Southern and Georgia State.

1160
00:56:36,400 --> 00:56:39,120
Speaker 2: So Georgia State should be the easiest. Like if you

1161
00:56:39,120 --> 00:56:40,440
Speaker 2: look at the schedule, all right, we got to be

1162
00:56:40,480 --> 00:56:42,319
Speaker 2: Georgia State. We're gonna talk about in stack. They're all new.

1163
00:56:43,160 --> 00:56:45,520
Speaker 2: That's the hardest spot on their schedules. The third straight

1164
00:56:45,600 --> 00:56:49,160
Speaker 2: road game. Georgia State's off the buye. They would be

1165
00:56:49,160 --> 00:56:51,720
Speaker 2: settled in a little more. You know, halfway through the season,

1166
00:56:52,800 --> 00:56:54,560
Speaker 2: sell sell, sell, sell sell them.

1167
00:56:54,560 --> 00:56:57,200
Speaker 4: Onarchs week two this podcast, I'll be giving out old

1168
00:56:57,200 --> 00:57:00,400
Speaker 4: Dominion money line old Dominion against ECU. At the end

1169
00:57:00,400 --> 00:57:02,520
Speaker 4: of the G five High five Week two Calbery.

1170
00:57:04,360 --> 00:57:06,960
Speaker 1: All right, Georgia State, we're off a ricky Ronnie, we're too.

1171
00:57:07,000 --> 00:57:09,080
Speaker 1: A guy who's getting his first chance to be a

1172
00:57:09,120 --> 00:57:12,760
Speaker 1: head coach. That's Del McGee, a Georgia high school coaching legend.

1173
00:57:12,880 --> 00:57:16,040
Speaker 1: At Carver Columbus, he coached up Jarvis Jones, Isaiah Crowell,

1174
00:57:16,040 --> 00:57:19,000
Speaker 1: a few other future NFL players. He was with Kirby

1175
00:57:19,000 --> 00:57:21,600
Speaker 1: Smart for the past eight years. He takes over a

1176
00:57:21,640 --> 00:57:24,880
Speaker 1: Georgia State team that at best was up and down

1177
00:57:24,960 --> 00:57:27,440
Speaker 1: Mercuriel seven and six, three and five in Sun Belt

1178
00:57:27,480 --> 00:57:30,600
Speaker 1: play beat Utah State in the famous Idaho Potato Bowl.

1179
00:57:30,800 --> 00:57:33,440
Speaker 1: Then Shawn Elliott resigns to take a tight end coaching

1180
00:57:33,520 --> 00:57:36,040
Speaker 1: job at South Carolina. One of the stranger you know

1181
00:57:36,480 --> 00:57:39,480
Speaker 1: outcomes from the coaching carousel. Their win total set it

1182
00:57:39,560 --> 00:57:42,880
Speaker 1: for to win the Sun Belt. I mean the tickets

1183
00:57:42,880 --> 00:57:44,960
Speaker 1: were zero, but at least in the market it's worth

1184
00:57:44,960 --> 00:57:46,840
Speaker 1: forty eight to one two hundred to one to make

1185
00:57:46,840 --> 00:57:51,040
Speaker 1: the college football Playoff. Unfortunately for the Panthers, they continue

1186
00:57:51,080 --> 00:57:53,480
Speaker 1: to be organ donors to the rich Marcus Carroll Off

1187
00:57:53,480 --> 00:57:56,320
Speaker 1: to Missoo at running back, Robert Lewis to Auburn top

1188
00:57:56,320 --> 00:57:59,120
Speaker 1: defensive tackle to BA Tech. They got a new coach,

1189
00:57:59,240 --> 00:58:01,600
Speaker 1: they got a journeyman quarterback and Zach Gibson who played

1190
00:58:01,600 --> 00:58:04,240
Speaker 1: the acron and sparingly at Georgia Tech, no offensive line

1191
00:58:04,280 --> 00:58:07,240
Speaker 1: experience to speak of. And the defensive players back with

1192
00:58:07,320 --> 00:58:10,320
Speaker 1: a special brand. And this excuse me, the defense has

1193
00:58:10,360 --> 00:58:12,720
Speaker 1: players back, but they were special brand of all full

1194
00:58:12,960 --> 00:58:16,000
Speaker 1: last season. This is a true rebuild, and they got

1195
00:58:16,040 --> 00:58:18,960
Speaker 1: guys with sec ties and their coordinators and Jim Cheney

1196
00:58:18,960 --> 00:58:22,080
Speaker 1: he was the Georgia offensive coordinator from twenty sixteen to

1197
00:58:22,120 --> 00:58:24,840
Speaker 1: twenty eighteen, and Kevin Shearer, who was once upon a

1198
00:58:24,880 --> 00:58:28,120
Speaker 1: time the director of player development for Nick Saban at Alabama.

1199
00:58:28,160 --> 00:58:30,960
Speaker 1: I think they'll get guys from the high school ranks.

1200
00:58:31,040 --> 00:58:33,240
Speaker 1: I think you know all the time that he's spent

1201
00:58:33,280 --> 00:58:35,560
Speaker 1: in the Peach State, this is del McGee. He's going

1202
00:58:35,600 --> 00:58:38,320
Speaker 1: to be able to work that secondary, third tier kind

1203
00:58:38,360 --> 00:58:40,840
Speaker 1: of player. Get him into the program. Can they keep them?

1204
00:58:41,000 --> 00:58:43,520
Speaker 1: That's to be seen. But that's a year two, year

1205
00:58:43,560 --> 00:58:46,120
Speaker 1: three kind of conversation, because this just feels like a

1206
00:58:46,120 --> 00:58:50,360
Speaker 1: complete rebuild. The wins are probably Channooga, but they're going

1207
00:58:50,440 --> 00:58:53,480
Speaker 1: to be an FCS playoff team, so I wouldn't automatically

1208
00:58:53,520 --> 00:58:56,120
Speaker 1: chalk that one up as a dub. Then outside that,

1209
00:58:56,120 --> 00:58:57,840
Speaker 1: there's not a single game I feel really good about.

1210
00:58:57,880 --> 00:58:59,800
Speaker 1: So I'm going under four wins here. I'm shocked. I

1211
00:58:59,840 --> 00:59:03,040
Speaker 1: think this is pure legacy of what they've been in

1212
00:59:03,080 --> 00:59:05,560
Speaker 1: the last five years. This is not a team that

1213
00:59:05,600 --> 00:59:07,680
Speaker 1: you should feel good about getting the five wins. So

1214
00:59:07,680 --> 00:59:10,680
Speaker 1: I'm going to go under. In McGee's first year there

1215
00:59:10,680 --> 00:59:13,200
Speaker 1: in Atlanta, I think.

1216
00:59:13,000 --> 00:59:15,760
Speaker 2: That they could be sneaky, have some value in the market.

1217
00:59:15,840 --> 00:59:18,680
Speaker 2: I like their staff. It's a ton of uncertainty, like

1218
00:59:18,680 --> 00:59:22,000
Speaker 2: it is, it's like a year zero rebuild. Their offense

1219
00:59:22,000 --> 00:59:24,600
Speaker 2: they lost but their long time quarterback, they're study running back,

1220
00:59:24,720 --> 00:59:27,880
Speaker 2: their top wide receiver for starting offensive lineman. You mentioned,

1221
00:59:28,000 --> 00:59:30,080
Speaker 2: they're stud right tackled about technic. They lost their left

1222
00:59:30,080 --> 00:59:32,720
Speaker 2: tackle to the NFL. Their defense is lost seven of

1223
00:59:32,760 --> 00:59:36,520
Speaker 2: the top twelve tacklers. They're going two different scheme changes

1224
00:59:36,560 --> 00:59:39,720
Speaker 2: as well. Expect more of a pro style offense than

1225
00:59:39,760 --> 00:59:43,720
Speaker 2: the spread that he saw under Granger defense. He should

1226
00:59:43,720 --> 00:59:47,320
Speaker 2: get some more pro style looks as well, But it

1227
00:59:47,360 --> 00:59:48,880
Speaker 2: all comes out of the quarterback. I mean they are.

1228
00:59:48,960 --> 00:59:52,440
Speaker 2: I think is probably the faith for He's shown some flashes,

1229
00:59:52,480 --> 00:59:54,600
Speaker 2: he's got to be more consistent. I think he fits

1230
00:59:54,640 --> 00:59:57,840
Speaker 2: the build for what they want to run Offensively. I

1231
00:59:57,840 --> 01:00:00,439
Speaker 2: think they'll still have a good running game and that's

1232
01:00:00,600 --> 01:00:03,080
Speaker 2: the Gee specialty. Who's a run game coordinator at Georgia.

1233
01:00:03,400 --> 01:00:06,920
Speaker 2: And there's some talent in the backfield. But yeah, there's

1234
01:00:06,960 --> 01:00:09,160
Speaker 2: a lot of questions on this roster. There's a brutal

1235
01:00:09,160 --> 01:00:12,720
Speaker 2: four game stretch. They play four straight road games, including

1236
01:00:12,800 --> 01:00:19,080
Speaker 2: two against the top two teams in the division who

1237
01:00:19,080 --> 01:00:22,320
Speaker 2: are both off buys or now they play app stayed

1238
01:00:22,320 --> 01:00:25,920
Speaker 2: off of Bye Jamey at Marshall at Yukon. That's a

1239
01:00:25,920 --> 01:00:28,960
Speaker 2: brutal stretch, you know. So this has passed from me.

1240
01:00:29,040 --> 01:00:30,479
Speaker 2: I wanted to bet the over, but I'm just gonna

1241
01:00:30,480 --> 01:00:33,160
Speaker 2: look for spots to bet them. I project like a

1242
01:00:33,160 --> 01:00:35,960
Speaker 2: little over four hard team to project them. I just

1243
01:00:36,040 --> 01:00:37,960
Speaker 2: like the staff a lot. I'd probably am a little

1244
01:00:38,040 --> 01:00:41,600
Speaker 2: higher than I should be. But their first five games

1245
01:00:41,600 --> 01:00:45,680
Speaker 2: are in Atlanta. They do weird bys, they have both

1246
01:00:45,680 --> 01:00:48,080
Speaker 2: their buys are around Georgia Southern, which I hate. They

1247
01:00:48,240 --> 01:00:51,240
Speaker 2: just two buys in three weeks for a team that's

1248
01:00:51,280 --> 01:00:53,480
Speaker 2: like rebuilding. I hate that they're not more spread out,

1249
01:00:53,480 --> 01:00:55,560
Speaker 2: but at least they're early. Maybe you can figure some

1250
01:00:55,560 --> 01:00:58,920
Speaker 2: stuff out. Could go both ways. I will say at

1251
01:00:58,960 --> 01:01:01,720
Speaker 2: Georgia Tech, that game is gonna be in Atlanta. It's

1252
01:01:01,720 --> 01:01:03,720
Speaker 2: not gonna like Georgia Tech is not a huge That's

1253
01:01:03,720 --> 01:01:05,800
Speaker 2: a good spot. A lot of uncertainty for what the

1254
01:01:05,840 --> 01:01:08,600
Speaker 2: staff is gonna show. Georgia Tech's gonna be flying back

1255
01:01:09,160 --> 01:01:12,040
Speaker 2: for playing. Where's that Florida stake? Isn't that the Ginnets

1256
01:01:12,040 --> 01:01:17,440
Speaker 2: in Dublin correct flying back to play? And and McGee,

1257
01:01:17,640 --> 01:01:21,200
Speaker 2: their head coach came from Georgia. They scout Georgia Tech.

1258
01:01:21,840 --> 01:01:26,440
Speaker 2: He's familiar with Georgia Tech. So yeah, that's a good spot,

1259
01:01:26,640 --> 01:01:29,280
Speaker 2: and I might bet them. I think they're catching three

1260
01:01:29,280 --> 01:01:31,080
Speaker 2: touchdown especially when I get three touchdowns. I think it's

1261
01:01:31,080 --> 01:01:35,560
Speaker 2: around twenty right now. Pass for me though that right

1262
01:01:35,680 --> 01:01:36,000
Speaker 2: much here?

1263
01:01:36,120 --> 01:01:39,880
Speaker 4: I just Sean Elliott just an all time piece of shit.

1264
01:01:40,000 --> 01:01:43,600
Speaker 4: Move to leave the team halfway through spring practice, Like

1265
01:01:43,640 --> 01:01:45,720
Speaker 4: I get it. Coaches leave, everyone's moving, and we're gonna

1266
01:01:45,720 --> 01:01:49,160
Speaker 4: talk about that throughout this whole show. I don't want

1267
01:01:49,160 --> 01:01:50,680
Speaker 4: to hear he did it for his family. You're telling

1268
01:01:50,680 --> 01:01:52,720
Speaker 4: me he didn't miss his family in December. You couldn't

1269
01:01:52,760 --> 01:01:54,680
Speaker 4: have left after the season. You waited till like three

1270
01:01:54,760 --> 01:01:59,800
Speaker 4: days in practice and just completely screw the Panthers. Just

1271
01:02:00,400 --> 01:02:02,840
Speaker 4: I hate that move. That really pissed me off. You

1272
01:02:02,880 --> 01:02:05,520
Speaker 4: guys said, this is just such a year zero situation.

1273
01:02:05,600 --> 01:02:07,480
Speaker 4: I think we do this this show next year. We'll

1274
01:02:07,480 --> 01:02:10,560
Speaker 4: just say that this season didn't count. McGee's best known

1275
01:02:10,600 --> 01:02:12,320
Speaker 4: for his recruiting, but it's not gonna help you when

1276
01:02:12,320 --> 01:02:14,320
Speaker 4: you get hired in February. So I'm kind of just

1277
01:02:14,480 --> 01:02:17,640
Speaker 4: staying away, throwing out the season, and I'll probably stucky.

1278
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Speaker 4: You know, we mentioned it a little bit with the

1279
01:02:19,240 --> 01:02:21,120
Speaker 4: Old Dominion thing, is like I'll just kind of use

1280
01:02:21,160 --> 01:02:24,160
Speaker 4: Georgia State where I'm gonna need them to lose to

1281
01:02:24,200 --> 01:02:26,200
Speaker 4: the teams. I want to bet they're rovers, you know,

1282
01:02:26,480 --> 01:02:30,080
Speaker 4: Arkansas State, maybe Old Dominion, Yukon. I need them to

1283
01:02:30,120 --> 01:02:33,280
Speaker 4: lose to those teams, so I'll just hope they're bad kind.

1284
01:02:33,120 --> 01:02:35,840
Speaker 2: Of Georgia State's team. I also still want to get

1285
01:02:35,840 --> 01:02:38,960
Speaker 2: more intel on read more reports. Yeah, I've brought in

1286
01:02:38,960 --> 01:02:41,680
Speaker 2: a lot of guys after spring, so like they look

1287
01:02:41,720 --> 01:02:43,760
Speaker 2: a lot they're gonna look a lot different in a

1288
01:02:43,800 --> 01:02:46,600
Speaker 2: couple of weeks than they did, and there's so much uncertainty.

1289
01:02:46,680 --> 01:02:50,200
Speaker 2: So nothing with Georgia State for me as of now.

1290
01:02:50,400 --> 01:02:53,000
Speaker 2: By the way, should we do we do two SEC parks?

1291
01:02:53,080 --> 01:02:56,400
Speaker 2: We do two sb SE parts or at an hour

1292
01:02:56,480 --> 01:02:58,240
Speaker 2: fifteen for one division.

1293
01:02:58,320 --> 01:02:59,400
Speaker 4: Just means more stucky.

1294
01:03:00,240 --> 01:03:02,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm here for it. I'm just ring the wrath

1295
01:03:02,880 --> 01:03:03,680
Speaker 2: of our producers.

1296
01:03:03,920 --> 01:03:07,160
Speaker 1: I will say stuck. I really appreciate how you laid

1297
01:03:07,200 --> 01:03:10,200
Speaker 1: out the Georgia Tech angle and taking the points. I

1298
01:03:10,240 --> 01:03:12,320
Speaker 1: hope you're right. I'd like to ride with you there.

1299
01:03:12,520 --> 01:03:15,000
Speaker 1: I certainly need twenty one or more. But if they

1300
01:03:15,000 --> 01:03:17,520
Speaker 1: can hang around for three quarters, it only makes my

1301
01:03:17,680 --> 01:03:21,360
Speaker 1: money line on Chattanooga in week two, juice yer, because

1302
01:03:21,400 --> 01:03:24,600
Speaker 1: I love a nice FCS team laying in wait. So

1303
01:03:24,640 --> 01:03:26,520
Speaker 1: we'll see if I can, you know, double dip go

1304
01:03:26,680 --> 01:03:28,960
Speaker 1: with the Panthers plus the points, and then fade them

1305
01:03:28,960 --> 01:03:32,480
Speaker 1: in the following week. All right on to the West.

1306
01:03:32,680 --> 01:03:36,120
Speaker 1: So we talked about some teams really struggling in the East.

1307
01:03:36,280 --> 01:03:37,800
Speaker 1: Now we go to the top of the board in

1308
01:03:37,840 --> 01:03:41,120
Speaker 1: the West. We start with Texas State G. J. Kinney.

1309
01:03:41,520 --> 01:03:44,200
Speaker 1: Entering year two. He was twelve and two and made

1310
01:03:44,200 --> 01:03:47,440
Speaker 1: the fcs SEMIS in twenty twenty two. Then last year,

1311
01:03:47,480 --> 01:03:50,040
Speaker 1: bumps up to the FBS level, goes eight and five

1312
01:03:50,080 --> 01:03:52,120
Speaker 1: with an upset right out of the gate over Baylor.

1313
01:03:52,680 --> 01:03:54,760
Speaker 1: They go four and four and Sunbell play. They beat

1314
01:03:54,880 --> 01:03:57,320
Speaker 1: Rice in the First Responder Bowl. Their win total is

1315
01:03:57,320 --> 01:03:59,080
Speaker 1: set at eight and a half. They are at just

1316
01:03:59,080 --> 01:04:01,080
Speaker 1: about five to one win the conference. Make sure to

1317
01:04:01,120 --> 01:04:03,960
Speaker 1: shop around there and sixteen to one to make the

1318
01:04:03,960 --> 01:04:07,880
Speaker 1: College Football Playoff. The Kinney mack lef left Witch offense

1319
01:04:07,960 --> 01:04:10,680
Speaker 1: delivered in year one almost thirty seven points per game,

1320
01:04:10,720 --> 01:04:13,880
Speaker 1: top thirty in run and pass, top thirty on third downs,

1321
01:04:13,920 --> 01:04:17,240
Speaker 1: top thirty in red zone touchdown percentage. They were just efficient.

1322
01:04:17,520 --> 01:04:20,040
Speaker 1: They made you pick your poison. It was not one

1323
01:04:20,040 --> 01:04:22,160
Speaker 1: of those air raid We're gonna throw at seventy percent

1324
01:04:22,200 --> 01:04:24,959
Speaker 1: of the time and catch teams sleeping. They were able

1325
01:04:25,000 --> 01:04:27,760
Speaker 1: to beat them in any way. That defense has had weaknesses.

1326
01:04:27,760 --> 01:04:31,040
Speaker 1: Now they return all their meaningful skill position guys Ishmael

1327
01:04:31,120 --> 01:04:33,800
Speaker 1: Mahdi led the nation in all purpose yards with almost

1328
01:04:33,800 --> 01:04:36,400
Speaker 1: one hundred and sixty seven per game. They even added

1329
01:04:36,400 --> 01:04:39,120
Speaker 1: in one of my favorite UTEP minors Shout out up

1330
01:04:39,200 --> 01:04:42,200
Speaker 1: Minor Nation from the last few season Dion Hankins. He

1331
01:04:42,240 --> 01:04:45,160
Speaker 1: comes over Joey Hobert proved that he wasn't just some

1332
01:04:45,280 --> 01:04:48,640
Speaker 1: cute FCS story. He caught seventy six balls eight tds

1333
01:04:48,680 --> 01:04:51,280
Speaker 1: in just eleven games last year. And then drum roll

1334
01:04:51,360 --> 01:04:54,360
Speaker 1: for my nominee for our guy here from Texas State,

1335
01:04:54,640 --> 01:04:57,840
Speaker 1: Cole Wilson. I love this guy. He is a sought

1336
01:04:57,840 --> 01:05:00,520
Speaker 1: off playmaker, five foot nine, one hundred and seven pounds,

1337
01:05:00,560 --> 01:05:04,880
Speaker 1: absolute burner. Former FCS All American, made Honorable mention last

1338
01:05:04,960 --> 01:05:07,360
Speaker 1: year in the Sun Belt, returned to kickoff to the house,

1339
01:05:07,360 --> 01:05:10,120
Speaker 1: scored nine tds in total. Also, it doesn't irt he's

1340
01:05:10,120 --> 01:05:12,400
Speaker 1: a genius National Honor Society. He had a high school

1341
01:05:12,440 --> 01:05:15,680
Speaker 1: four point two GPA. I love Cole Wilson. I can't

1342
01:05:15,680 --> 01:05:18,080
Speaker 1: wait to see what he does in this offense this year. Now,

1343
01:05:18,160 --> 01:05:19,960
Speaker 1: let's get into the nitty gritty a bit with the

1344
01:05:19,960 --> 01:05:23,600
Speaker 1: Bobs offensive line. They're all juniors and seniors, plenty of experience.

1345
01:05:23,640 --> 01:05:26,200
Speaker 1: I like that they're going to be blocking for Jordan McLeod,

1346
01:05:26,440 --> 01:05:29,880
Speaker 1: who in the rare Intra Conference move goes from James

1347
01:05:29,920 --> 01:05:32,760
Speaker 1: Madison to Texas State. He had a massive breakout year

1348
01:05:32,800 --> 01:05:35,680
Speaker 1: for the Dukes last year. Forty three total touchdowns. I

1349
01:05:35,680 --> 01:05:38,439
Speaker 1: don't think any of us saw that coming with his work,

1350
01:05:38,560 --> 01:05:41,480
Speaker 1: you know, prior to getting to Harrisonburg. In eight of

1351
01:05:41,520 --> 01:05:43,880
Speaker 1: his final ten games he counted for three or more touchdowns.

1352
01:05:43,920 --> 01:05:46,960
Speaker 1: So he was cooking sixty eight percent completion percentage. He

1353
01:05:47,080 --> 01:05:49,360
Speaker 1: was a special guy in that offense. Now he gets

1354
01:05:49,400 --> 01:05:51,680
Speaker 1: to move over to this left witch offense. He's a

1355
01:05:51,680 --> 01:05:54,280
Speaker 1: great scrambler. He can burn defenses on the ground or

1356
01:05:54,400 --> 01:05:57,000
Speaker 1: just scramble and buy more time. I think he'll only,

1357
01:05:57,160 --> 01:05:59,920
Speaker 1: you know, blossom more as a passer in this really

1358
01:06:00,040 --> 01:06:03,800
Speaker 1: quarterback friendly system. So here's the question. If the offense

1359
01:06:03,880 --> 01:06:05,800
Speaker 1: is just as good as they were last fall, can

1360
01:06:05,840 --> 01:06:08,600
Speaker 1: the defense improve at all? If you hear coach Kenney

1361
01:06:08,640 --> 01:06:10,959
Speaker 1: say it, he's saying that their defense improved a lot

1362
01:06:11,320 --> 01:06:13,400
Speaker 1: year over year. We'll see if that's actually true. They

1363
01:06:13,440 --> 01:06:16,240
Speaker 1: do return seven starters. They bring in an FCS All

1364
01:06:16,280 --> 01:06:19,560
Speaker 1: American on the edge from the portal, Stephen Parker to

1365
01:06:19,800 --> 01:06:23,480
Speaker 1: miche Adela from Michigan State who was an under armour

1366
01:06:23,520 --> 01:06:26,520
Speaker 1: All American back in the day. Texas State last year

1367
01:06:26,560 --> 01:06:29,880
Speaker 1: they had one calling guard on defense. They were havoc producing.

1368
01:06:29,960 --> 01:06:33,600
Speaker 1: They lived in opponents backfields. Third in TFLs they reloaded

1369
01:06:34,240 --> 01:06:37,400
Speaker 1: in terms of loss or gave up a touchdown exactly

1370
01:06:37,480 --> 01:06:40,240
Speaker 1: that was, you know, basically boom or busts Now they

1371
01:06:40,280 --> 01:06:43,680
Speaker 1: got Dexter mccoyle senior and as the defensive coordinator, almost

1372
01:06:43,680 --> 01:06:45,880
Speaker 1: the entire secondary is back, so I'm hoping for an

1373
01:06:45,880 --> 01:06:49,240
Speaker 1: improvement over the one hundredth ranked pass defense. And then finally,

1374
01:06:49,280 --> 01:06:51,640
Speaker 1: before he kick it too, you guys, the schedule UTSA

1375
01:06:51,760 --> 01:06:54,560
Speaker 1: comes to San Marcos and then I love it when

1376
01:06:54,560 --> 01:06:57,919
Speaker 1: a power program comes down and plays an actual road game.

1377
01:06:58,120 --> 01:07:00,720
Speaker 1: They don't just screw them in the scheduling lot. Arizona

1378
01:07:00,760 --> 01:07:03,360
Speaker 1: State on a short week on a Thursday night, they

1379
01:07:03,400 --> 01:07:06,680
Speaker 1: come down to San Marcos. If they can stop Cam Scatterbow,

1380
01:07:07,040 --> 01:07:10,040
Speaker 1: look out. And as for tricky SBC games, they're at

1381
01:07:10,040 --> 01:07:12,800
Speaker 1: Troy early, but they avoid app State and JMU in

1382
01:07:12,880 --> 01:07:15,960
Speaker 1: the crossover, and they host Louisiana off of the bye.

1383
01:07:16,040 --> 01:07:17,960
Speaker 1: Give me Texas State over eight and a half, give

1384
01:07:17,960 --> 01:07:19,520
Speaker 1: me Texas State a five to one to win the

1385
01:07:19,560 --> 01:07:21,960
Speaker 1: Sun Belt, and fuck it, let's go sixteen to one.

1386
01:07:22,000 --> 01:07:23,680
Speaker 1: They make the college foot both playoff them all in

1387
01:07:23,720 --> 01:07:24,280
Speaker 1: on the bubbs.

1388
01:07:24,600 --> 01:07:25,320
Speaker 2: I know you're.

1389
01:07:25,200 --> 01:07:26,800
Speaker 1: Shaking your head. You do you agree with me. You're

1390
01:07:26,800 --> 01:07:27,320
Speaker 1: not in on this.

1391
01:07:27,600 --> 01:07:29,960
Speaker 4: No, I'm just I've ever been down in Texas State

1392
01:07:30,080 --> 01:07:32,000
Speaker 4: is everyone's darling and apparently they're yours.

1393
01:07:32,040 --> 01:07:32,960
Speaker 1: I am not sold at all.

1394
01:07:33,080 --> 01:07:35,960
Speaker 4: Right. They did a good job in the portal, but

1395
01:07:36,160 --> 01:07:38,680
Speaker 4: it just canceled out what they lost. They swapped out

1396
01:07:38,760 --> 01:07:42,960
Speaker 4: Jordan McLeod for TJ. Finley copy paste, you know, Maddy's back,

1397
01:07:43,040 --> 01:07:46,040
Speaker 4: but they lost Davenport Jeter Hill. They replaced them with

1398
01:07:46,080 --> 01:07:49,760
Speaker 4: the Utet Boys again teams even. They swap out Ashton

1399
01:07:49,800 --> 01:07:53,280
Speaker 4: Hawkins for Jade Williams and they break back seven stars

1400
01:07:53,280 --> 01:07:56,120
Speaker 4: on a defense that was horrible. You look down the

1401
01:07:56,160 --> 01:07:58,840
Speaker 4: stretch last year, they have thirty six points to Southern

1402
01:07:58,840 --> 01:08:02,120
Speaker 4: Myths who couldn't complete a pass, thirty four to Louisiana

1403
01:08:02,120 --> 01:08:04,400
Speaker 4: who was on their third quarterback. They needed a last

1404
01:08:04,400 --> 01:08:06,440
Speaker 4: minute touchdown to beat Uel Monroe.

1405
01:08:07,840 --> 01:08:10,360
Speaker 2: Arkansas State, Yeah, Troy got him for thirty one.

1406
01:08:10,440 --> 01:08:14,480
Speaker 4: Coastal thirty one, Arkansas State, seventy seven, South Alabama forty fourth.

1407
01:08:14,880 --> 01:08:17,679
Speaker 4: They were one hundred and twenty six at preventing exposed

1408
01:08:17,720 --> 01:08:21,040
Speaker 4: in this and they're bringing running back their entire secondary

1409
01:08:21,160 --> 01:08:23,800
Speaker 4: who stink when you look at the schedule last year,

1410
01:08:23,880 --> 01:08:25,719
Speaker 4: sure they had a great year. They went eight and five.

1411
01:08:26,040 --> 01:08:29,639
Speaker 4: South Alabama is the only team they beat that finished

1412
01:08:29,640 --> 01:08:30,960
Speaker 4: with a winning record last year.

1413
01:08:32,040 --> 01:08:37,479
Speaker 2: Seven regular season wins, six FBS teams. Those six FBS

1414
01:08:37,520 --> 01:08:40,800
Speaker 2: teams went twenty three and fifty one.

1415
01:08:41,120 --> 01:08:44,479
Speaker 4: The only Bowl team that they beat they gave up

1416
01:08:44,520 --> 01:08:48,439
Speaker 4: forty four points. Now, the schedule sets up nicely where

1417
01:08:48,439 --> 01:08:50,599
Speaker 4: they probably get the four worst teams in the conference,

1418
01:08:51,200 --> 01:08:52,559
Speaker 4: and they have. But you know they have wide up

1419
01:08:52,600 --> 01:08:57,080
Speaker 4: State James Madison. But I don't get this at all.

1420
01:08:57,200 --> 01:08:59,800
Speaker 4: I don't think they're that good. That's why I'm I'm

1421
01:08:59,840 --> 01:09:01,920
Speaker 4: with Stucky on the James Madison because to me, whoever

1422
01:09:01,920 --> 01:09:05,320
Speaker 4: wins James Madison in app State is the champ. More importantly,

1423
01:09:05,360 --> 01:09:08,280
Speaker 4: I didn't look which one of Stucking Colin was on

1424
01:09:08,320 --> 01:09:10,160
Speaker 4: this potly shouldn't known it was Stucky. I gotta call

1425
01:09:10,200 --> 01:09:15,800
Speaker 4: Colin because Colin's power rate rankings make EUTSA about a

1426
01:09:15,880 --> 01:09:20,200
Speaker 4: five point underdog against Texas State. Give me those points,

1427
01:09:20,240 --> 01:09:23,960
Speaker 4: Colin Wilson, I'll take the five with meat meep. So, yeah,

1428
01:09:24,000 --> 01:09:26,559
Speaker 4: I don't get it. I just think this team's super overrated.

1429
01:09:28,400 --> 01:09:29,080
Speaker 1: I agree.

1430
01:09:29,439 --> 01:09:34,800
Speaker 2: I think that they're totally inflated in the futures market. Look.

1431
01:09:34,880 --> 01:09:36,840
Speaker 2: I love GJ. Kinney. I love the higher I think

1432
01:09:36,840 --> 01:09:38,920
Speaker 2: he has his team heading in the right direction. I

1433
01:09:38,960 --> 01:09:42,360
Speaker 2: love their offense. It's like a hybrid of you know,

1434
01:09:42,680 --> 01:09:46,120
Speaker 2: Hype Bowl Malzan. There's even some air Raid principles in there.

1435
01:09:46,160 --> 01:09:49,920
Speaker 2: Really fast tempo, wide split s, lot of vertical choice routes.

1436
01:09:49,960 --> 01:09:52,439
Speaker 2: I love watching the offense. Their offense is gonna hum

1437
01:09:52,800 --> 01:09:54,720
Speaker 2: just like it did last year. But their defense can't

1438
01:09:54,720 --> 01:09:56,240
Speaker 2: stop anybody. It's a bottom twenty.

1439
01:09:56,040 --> 01:09:57,679
Speaker 4: Defense just like it did last year.

1440
01:09:57,920 --> 01:10:00,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, it should be a bottom twenty defense again this year.

1441
01:10:00,479 --> 01:10:03,160
Speaker 2: Last year they beat like everyone I think is holding onto.

1442
01:10:03,160 --> 01:10:05,120
Speaker 2: Like the Baylor win. Baylor went three and nine and

1443
01:10:05,160 --> 01:10:06,960
Speaker 2: they they kind of shocked them. It was the first

1444
01:10:06,960 --> 01:10:08,960
Speaker 2: game of the season, right, We saw that with Colorado.

1445
01:10:09,400 --> 01:10:11,280
Speaker 2: You see that in the first week. Baylor went three

1446
01:10:11,320 --> 01:10:15,759
Speaker 2: and nine. They beat Jackson State, Nevada Southern miss Ulm

1447
01:10:15,880 --> 01:10:18,640
Speaker 2: by one at home, they were down eleven and with

1448
01:10:18,720 --> 01:10:22,640
Speaker 2: the six to go Georgia Southern and South Alabama.

1449
01:10:22,760 --> 01:10:25,080
Speaker 1: You're not you're not impressed with the Rice bowlwin. Just

1450
01:10:25,120 --> 01:10:26,320
Speaker 1: beating the feathers offense.

1451
01:10:26,520 --> 01:10:31,160
Speaker 4: Don't even play Listen Daniels McCaffrey to play there didn't.

1452
01:10:31,320 --> 01:10:34,440
Speaker 1: What I'm hearing from both of you guys is they're

1453
01:10:34,120 --> 01:10:36,880
Speaker 1: the best offense in the Sun Belt. Correct, I mean,

1454
01:10:36,880 --> 01:10:38,360
Speaker 1: who do you want instead of I think.

1455
01:10:38,280 --> 01:10:38,880
Speaker 2: The best office?

1456
01:10:39,200 --> 01:10:42,839
Speaker 1: Yeah, so as a start there, I agree.

1457
01:10:43,040 --> 01:10:45,719
Speaker 2: I don't hate them. I think if they're over valued,

1458
01:10:46,479 --> 01:10:51,080
Speaker 2: like you're telling me, you know, five to one to

1459
01:10:51,200 --> 01:10:54,720
Speaker 2: win the Sun Belt, No, thank you. I just like

1460
01:10:54,760 --> 01:10:55,519
Speaker 2: I have another team.

1461
01:10:56,040 --> 01:10:59,599
Speaker 4: I'm I'm saying they're I'm saying they're the exact same

1462
01:10:59,640 --> 01:11:01,360
Speaker 4: team they were last year. They were eight and five

1463
01:11:01,439 --> 01:11:02,960
Speaker 4: last year, they're going to be in five this year.

1464
01:11:02,960 --> 01:11:05,280
Speaker 4: They win totals eight and a half. That's too high.

1465
01:11:05,439 --> 01:11:07,519
Speaker 2: Look, I look their schedules a cake walk. Are there?

1466
01:11:07,520 --> 01:11:10,760
Speaker 2: Non cons all in Texas? No true road games? And

1467
01:11:10,800 --> 01:11:13,479
Speaker 2: then they get Georgia State, no to you in their

1468
01:11:13,520 --> 01:11:15,920
Speaker 2: cross division games. We just shit on both those teams.

1469
01:11:16,200 --> 01:11:18,280
Speaker 2: Easy schedule, it's one of the ten easiest schedules in

1470
01:11:18,320 --> 01:11:22,840
Speaker 2: the country. Thank you, But we're right, just just everyone's darling.

1471
01:11:22,920 --> 01:11:25,200
Speaker 2: Last year they beat a bunch of trash. They'll be

1472
01:11:25,240 --> 01:11:27,760
Speaker 2: in shootouts like they're gonna like they that shual. They

1473
01:11:27,760 --> 01:11:30,240
Speaker 2: could have lost at ULM. They could lose it like

1474
01:11:30,520 --> 01:11:33,679
Speaker 2: anybody because their defense, So yeah, I can't get behind

1475
01:11:33,720 --> 01:11:35,920
Speaker 2: them going to the College Toball Playoff. I don't see

1476
01:11:35,920 --> 01:11:39,280
Speaker 2: them going eleven and one, twelve and h everyone's a

1477
01:11:39,320 --> 01:11:41,840
Speaker 2: little too early to the Kinney party. I'll be there,

1478
01:11:41,840 --> 01:11:43,920
Speaker 2: but not this year, so there's a better price. I'd

1479
01:11:43,920 --> 01:11:44,920
Speaker 2: be there, but I can't hear.

1480
01:11:46,600 --> 01:11:50,280
Speaker 1: We are on Detroit. We got Jared Parker, who has

1481
01:11:50,600 --> 01:11:53,759
Speaker 1: head coaching experience. He went zero to six at Purdue

1482
01:11:53,760 --> 01:11:56,599
Speaker 1: as an internim head coach. That doesn't really matter. Eleven

1483
01:11:56,600 --> 01:11:58,639
Speaker 1: and three for the Trojans last year seven and one

1484
01:11:58,640 --> 01:12:00,519
Speaker 1: and the Sun Belt lost in the Burming Bowl to

1485
01:12:00,640 --> 01:12:03,840
Speaker 1: duke their win total. Is a little bit surprising giving

1486
01:12:03,880 --> 01:12:06,200
Speaker 1: how many games they've won in the past few seasons

1487
01:12:06,200 --> 01:12:09,160
Speaker 1: six and a half, fourteen to one to win the conference,

1488
01:12:09,200 --> 01:12:11,719
Speaker 1: twenty eight to one to make the College Football Playoff.

1489
01:12:12,160 --> 01:12:14,720
Speaker 1: I understand the appeal of hiring somebody with a ton

1490
01:12:14,760 --> 01:12:17,840
Speaker 1: of power for experience. He also coached with Neil Brown,

1491
01:12:18,120 --> 01:12:21,120
Speaker 1: a former Troy head coach, while at West Virginia, but

1492
01:12:21,240 --> 01:12:23,760
Speaker 1: this has been a very stable place in terms of

1493
01:12:23,800 --> 01:12:26,720
Speaker 1: head coaching hires. They had Larry Blakeney forever. He led

1494
01:12:26,760 --> 01:12:29,640
Speaker 1: them from the D one Double a ranks to a

1495
01:12:29,680 --> 01:12:32,800
Speaker 1: respectable G five program than Neil Brown wins thirty one

1496
01:12:32,840 --> 01:12:36,160
Speaker 1: games in three years. After the failed Chip Lindsay experiment,

1497
01:12:36,240 --> 01:12:38,479
Speaker 1: they hit it huge with John Sumrall, who went twenty

1498
01:12:38,479 --> 01:12:41,280
Speaker 1: three to four in two years. I just feel like

1499
01:12:41,320 --> 01:12:43,880
Speaker 1: they could have hired a head coach with more head

1500
01:12:43,920 --> 01:12:44,799
Speaker 1: coaching experience.

1501
01:12:44,840 --> 01:12:44,920
Speaker 4: Now.

1502
01:12:44,960 --> 01:12:47,200
Speaker 1: I think the timing the way it worked out, they

1503
01:12:47,240 --> 01:12:50,040
Speaker 1: missed out on guys like Sean Lewis, Bronco Mendenhall. Maybe

1504
01:12:50,080 --> 01:12:52,559
Speaker 1: they weren't the right fits, but I certainly would prefer

1505
01:12:52,720 --> 01:12:54,840
Speaker 1: like the route that James Madison went, which is at

1506
01:12:54,920 --> 01:12:58,040
Speaker 1: least there's a guy who's been the guy, a program builder.

1507
01:12:58,240 --> 01:13:00,960
Speaker 1: There's so many things outside of what happens on Saturdays

1508
01:13:01,000 --> 01:13:03,560
Speaker 1: that you have to handle as a head coach. Personally,

1509
01:13:03,600 --> 01:13:05,439
Speaker 1: I would have gone with a guy like Scottie Walden

1510
01:13:05,439 --> 01:13:09,000
Speaker 1: from Austin p but that's just me moving Parker aside.

1511
01:13:09,320 --> 01:13:11,720
Speaker 1: This win total, I think really speaks to how much

1512
01:13:11,720 --> 01:13:14,720
Speaker 1: of a rebuild this is to stay at a high

1513
01:13:14,840 --> 01:13:18,920
Speaker 1: level in the Sunbelt. Only six returning starters both lines

1514
01:13:18,960 --> 01:13:22,160
Speaker 1: are low on experience in early trips to Memphis and Iowa.

1515
01:13:22,240 --> 01:13:26,479
Speaker 1: That presents two separate problems in opposite directions. But in

1516
01:13:26,520 --> 01:13:29,120
Speaker 1: Sunbelt Conference play that's where things I think could get

1517
01:13:29,200 --> 01:13:31,639
Speaker 1: a little bit dicey. Texas stay at Home at South

1518
01:13:31,680 --> 01:13:35,200
Speaker 1: Alabama at Arkansas State coastal at Georgia, Southern at Louisiana

1519
01:13:35,400 --> 01:13:38,320
Speaker 1: over a six week period. In previous years, it was

1520
01:13:38,360 --> 01:13:41,479
Speaker 1: just win, win, win, win, win, up and down that slate.

1521
01:13:41,960 --> 01:13:44,679
Speaker 1: I don't necessarily see that for the Trojans this year.

1522
01:13:45,520 --> 01:13:47,559
Speaker 1: I think I'm leaning under six and a half, and

1523
01:13:47,600 --> 01:13:51,840
Speaker 1: I know where the winds are Nevada, fam You, Louisiana, Monroe.

1524
01:13:52,160 --> 01:13:54,120
Speaker 1: After that, they're going to be a slight favorite of

1525
01:13:54,160 --> 01:13:56,800
Speaker 1: four or less or an underdog in eight of their

1526
01:13:57,040 --> 01:13:59,880
Speaker 1: nine other games. So for me, for them to cash,

1527
01:14:00,160 --> 01:14:01,920
Speaker 1: they got to win a lot of coin flippy games

1528
01:14:01,920 --> 01:14:05,080
Speaker 1: with a green head coach and a lot of new

1529
01:14:05,120 --> 01:14:08,920
Speaker 1: faces in you know, those Trojan uniforms. So I'm gonna

1530
01:14:08,920 --> 01:14:11,560
Speaker 1: go under on this. I think Troy the party is

1531
01:14:11,600 --> 01:14:14,320
Speaker 1: over doesn't necessarily mean that they can't be a quality program,

1532
01:14:14,479 --> 01:14:16,360
Speaker 1: make a bowl this year uses as a springboard to

1533
01:14:16,400 --> 01:14:19,040
Speaker 1: twenty twenty five. But I'm out on the Parker Hire

1534
01:14:19,080 --> 01:14:21,120
Speaker 1: at least in year one. What do you think suck?

1535
01:14:21,920 --> 01:14:23,720
Speaker 2: Yeah? I agree you can find an under six and

1536
01:14:23,760 --> 01:14:25,799
Speaker 2: a half plus money out there. I make I project

1537
01:14:25,880 --> 01:14:29,400
Speaker 2: like five to nine. Surprisingly, but this team, it is

1538
01:14:29,439 --> 01:14:33,960
Speaker 2: a full reset. I mean Watson bydw Gone, Goose Crowder.

1539
01:14:34,000 --> 01:14:36,439
Speaker 2: Maybe Goose Crowder is the next Mahomes and that's what

1540
01:14:36,479 --> 01:14:38,960
Speaker 2: they need this year. But he got a bunch of

1541
01:14:38,960 --> 01:14:42,360
Speaker 2: West Virginia assistants with the coordinators. Goose Crowder comes from

1542
01:14:42,400 --> 01:14:45,200
Speaker 2: West Virginia. But look at the losses. That wide receiver,

1543
01:14:45,760 --> 01:14:48,360
Speaker 2: the Lewis loss really hurts as he recovers from cancer.

1544
01:14:49,640 --> 01:14:53,000
Speaker 2: Their offensive line lost two starters of the portal tackle

1545
01:14:53,120 --> 01:14:56,320
Speaker 2: is a major question mark for me. And then the defense,

1546
01:14:57,200 --> 01:14:59,720
Speaker 2: like they lost their top five defensive lineman one of

1547
01:15:00,080 --> 01:15:03,200
Speaker 2: to the NFL. They lost their top seven defensive backs,

1548
01:15:03,240 --> 01:15:06,040
Speaker 2: three and four starters at linebacker. I love some of

1549
01:15:06,040 --> 01:15:08,040
Speaker 2: their linebackers and some of the defensive backs that they

1550
01:15:08,120 --> 01:15:10,920
Speaker 2: lost too. You're lying on a lot of FCS JUCO

1551
01:15:11,040 --> 01:15:15,080
Speaker 2: guys with you know, new coaches. This is a complete rebuild.

1552
01:15:15,120 --> 01:15:17,840
Speaker 2: I mean twelve of the top fourteen tacklers are gone,

1553
01:15:17,880 --> 01:15:21,679
Speaker 2: including all six that got SPC honors last year. Bottom

1554
01:15:21,680 --> 01:15:26,559
Speaker 2: five overall returning production. So yeah, it's uh, they should

1555
01:15:26,560 --> 01:15:28,640
Speaker 2: go two and two non con probably start three and

1556
01:15:28,640 --> 01:15:30,960
Speaker 2: two with U All Monroe, but after that it gets

1557
01:15:30,960 --> 01:15:32,800
Speaker 2: a lot tougher. They even play four or five on

1558
01:15:32,840 --> 01:15:35,559
Speaker 2: the road, including three teams that are off of buys,

1559
01:15:37,479 --> 01:15:39,760
Speaker 2: So it's a tough schedule. And if if with all

1560
01:15:39,800 --> 01:15:42,599
Speaker 2: this change, it's not out of the question, they lose

1561
01:15:42,640 --> 01:15:46,040
Speaker 2: to Nevada, who should be a little better. Like that's

1562
01:15:46,080 --> 01:15:47,960
Speaker 2: weird stuff happens in week one with these teams that

1563
01:15:48,000 --> 01:15:52,040
Speaker 2: look way different. So yeah, I liked the under two.

1564
01:15:52,080 --> 01:15:54,200
Speaker 2: I looked under. The only thing that scares me is

1565
01:15:54,280 --> 01:15:59,240
Speaker 2: South Alabama beat Troy for one. Totally shit, that would help.

1566
01:15:59,880 --> 01:16:00,639
Speaker 2: I looked the under.

1567
01:16:01,240 --> 01:16:02,800
Speaker 4: I don't have much here. I just I was laughing

1568
01:16:02,800 --> 01:16:04,400
Speaker 4: when I was digging to Troy, just kind of looking

1569
01:16:04,439 --> 01:16:07,559
Speaker 4: back at they kicked the shit out of everybody last season.

1570
01:16:08,120 --> 01:16:10,679
Speaker 4: I was looking through the box scores. They outgained every

1571
01:16:10,680 --> 01:16:13,680
Speaker 4: team by like two hundred yards of that team was

1572
01:16:13,880 --> 01:16:17,519
Speaker 4: so good. Yeah, don't have much. I think they probably

1573
01:16:17,560 --> 01:16:19,960
Speaker 4: make a Bowl, but six and a half probably a

1574
01:16:20,000 --> 01:16:21,920
Speaker 4: good number. I really wouldn't go over it. I don't

1575
01:16:21,960 --> 01:16:24,519
Speaker 4: know that I'll play the under, but yeah, don't have much.

1576
01:16:24,600 --> 01:16:27,240
Speaker 4: Just kind of dying laughing looking at that team was

1577
01:16:27,280 --> 01:16:28,120
Speaker 4: so good last year.

1578
01:16:28,320 --> 01:16:33,840
Speaker 1: Ye all right. The media had ranked Troy the second

1579
01:16:33,880 --> 01:16:35,559
Speaker 1: team and the pecking order in the West, But the

1580
01:16:35,600 --> 01:16:38,640
Speaker 1: third team I'm more bullish on. We'll start with Louisiana

1581
01:16:38,800 --> 01:16:39,760
Speaker 1: the rage Ocaguns.

1582
01:16:40,640 --> 01:16:42,519
Speaker 6: This is the one you've been waiting for.

1583
01:16:45,600 --> 01:16:48,000
Speaker 1: Michael Desormo enters year three back to back six and

1584
01:16:48,040 --> 01:16:50,519
Speaker 1: seven seasons with bowl losses. They went three and five

1585
01:16:50,520 --> 01:16:52,560
Speaker 1: in the Sun Belt, lost to Jacksonville State in the

1586
01:16:52,600 --> 01:16:54,960
Speaker 1: New Orleans Bowl. Their win total out in the markets

1587
01:16:54,960 --> 01:16:57,439
Speaker 1: seven and a half or eight odds to win eleven

1588
01:16:57,479 --> 01:16:59,519
Speaker 1: to two on the conference twenty to one to make

1589
01:16:59,520 --> 01:17:02,880
Speaker 1: the College Ball Playoff. It starts up front. I think

1590
01:17:02,880 --> 01:17:05,920
Speaker 1: it's nice to have these teams to have any continuity.

1591
01:17:06,000 --> 01:17:08,120
Speaker 1: They got four starters back from a line that finished

1592
01:17:08,160 --> 01:17:10,280
Speaker 1: thirty second in line yards. They ran it for one

1593
01:17:10,360 --> 01:17:12,800
Speaker 1: hundred and seventy five yards per game. A big part

1594
01:17:12,840 --> 01:17:15,519
Speaker 1: of that, though, was Xeon Chris, who transferred to Houston.

1595
01:17:15,760 --> 01:17:17,800
Speaker 1: He ran for four hundred and ninety two yards in

1596
01:17:17,880 --> 01:17:20,240
Speaker 1: seven games of real action, so he's going to be

1597
01:17:20,240 --> 01:17:23,880
Speaker 1: greatly missed. I don't love Chandler Fields or Ben Wooldridge.

1598
01:17:24,320 --> 01:17:25,960
Speaker 1: They're going to battle for the job, but to me,

1599
01:17:26,120 --> 01:17:30,240
Speaker 1: they're game managers at best. So why when you look

1600
01:17:30,240 --> 01:17:32,479
Speaker 1: at this in terms of the win total and the

1601
01:17:32,680 --> 01:17:35,280
Speaker 1: conference odds, where's this love coming from. It's all the defense.

1602
01:17:35,560 --> 01:17:37,600
Speaker 1: This defense has the potential to take the jump up

1603
01:17:37,640 --> 01:17:40,280
Speaker 1: to the top three, top two in the conference. They

1604
01:17:40,320 --> 01:17:44,000
Speaker 1: return eight starters. They hire a new DC in Jim Salgado.

1605
01:17:44,360 --> 01:17:46,960
Speaker 1: He has a very impressive resume if you look through it,

1606
01:17:47,400 --> 01:17:50,160
Speaker 1: lots of time in the NFL, multiple years with the Bills,

1607
01:17:50,200 --> 01:17:52,800
Speaker 1: twenty three years as a college coach, and sometime as

1608
01:17:52,800 --> 01:17:56,040
Speaker 1: a defensive coordinator at Princeton. He's installing a new four

1609
01:17:56,040 --> 01:17:58,599
Speaker 1: to two five look. Stuck talks about this a lot.

1610
01:17:58,720 --> 01:18:02,360
Speaker 1: With new looks, new personnel, the early weeks of the

1611
01:18:02,400 --> 01:18:04,920
Speaker 1: season can be a bit jarring for some of their opponents.

1612
01:18:04,960 --> 01:18:06,439
Speaker 1: I think that's going to play in their favor because

1613
01:18:06,439 --> 01:18:08,760
Speaker 1: they have so much experience. I like their mix of

1614
01:18:08,760 --> 01:18:12,000
Speaker 1: a strong wrong game, a veteran defense, quality place kicker,

1615
01:18:12,280 --> 01:18:14,880
Speaker 1: and a soft opening schedule starts stacking some wins. They

1616
01:18:14,960 --> 01:18:18,080
Speaker 1: got Grambling at Kansaw Tulane is probably going to be

1617
01:18:18,120 --> 01:18:20,080
Speaker 1: a loss, but they get them at home at Wake

1618
01:18:20,240 --> 01:18:22,920
Speaker 1: at Southern miss a four to one start is on

1619
01:18:22,960 --> 01:18:24,800
Speaker 1: the table in my opinion, but they're going to need

1620
01:18:24,800 --> 01:18:27,400
Speaker 1: that to flirt with nine wins because they host app State,

1621
01:18:27,439 --> 01:18:30,559
Speaker 1: they travel to Texas State, and they host Troy. So

1622
01:18:30,760 --> 01:18:33,479
Speaker 1: if they fail to eclipse seven wins, the question I

1623
01:18:33,479 --> 01:18:36,120
Speaker 1: want to ask you first, Iella, does that open the

1624
01:18:36,160 --> 01:18:40,559
Speaker 1: door for union with Sun Belt? Billy Napier? Would you

1625
01:18:40,640 --> 01:18:42,400
Speaker 1: like to see him back in this conference if he

1626
01:18:42,439 --> 01:18:43,479
Speaker 1: doesn't work out in Gainesville?

1627
01:18:43,880 --> 01:18:44,000
Speaker 2: Oh?

1628
01:18:44,040 --> 01:18:46,000
Speaker 4: I would love to see him back back at Louisiana.

1629
01:18:46,040 --> 01:18:48,240
Speaker 4: And I don't think it will happen, just because I

1630
01:18:48,240 --> 01:18:52,280
Speaker 4: don't think Louisiana will completely fall out, but I definitely

1631
01:18:52,960 --> 01:18:56,679
Speaker 4: get fired. Yeah, this weason that team I think is interesting.

1632
01:18:56,680 --> 01:18:59,960
Speaker 4: I think they can kind of go one of two ways.

1633
01:19:00,040 --> 01:19:00,960
Speaker 2: Think we so.

1634
01:19:02,920 --> 01:19:04,760
Speaker 4: Yeah, now they have that's pretty much it.

1635
01:19:06,120 --> 01:19:08,559
Speaker 2: That's by analysis. Gonna go over.

1636
01:19:09,960 --> 01:19:11,639
Speaker 1: Crunch the number seven and a half.

1637
01:19:11,439 --> 01:19:14,599
Speaker 2: Games, guys, I'll tell you that.

1638
01:19:12,800 --> 01:19:15,599
Speaker 4: I have crunch the numbers, and they're probably gonna win

1639
01:19:15,720 --> 01:19:19,760
Speaker 4: seven or eight. That's kind of where I'm at. Yeah,

1640
01:19:19,760 --> 01:19:22,160
Speaker 4: they started, you know, three different quarterbacks. It looks like

1641
01:19:22,200 --> 01:19:24,960
Speaker 4: they're kind of landed on Chandler Field is going to

1642
01:19:24,960 --> 01:19:28,280
Speaker 4: be the guy. The cupboards not complete. Bear receiver even

1643
01:19:28,320 --> 01:19:30,800
Speaker 4: with them losing their their top two pass catchers. You

1644
01:19:30,840 --> 01:19:32,760
Speaker 4: mentioned the defense they do. I do like what they're

1645
01:19:32,760 --> 01:19:36,960
Speaker 4: bringing back acosaiat linebacker, Cam Waitfield and Jordan Lost and

1646
01:19:37,000 --> 01:19:39,880
Speaker 4: coming off the edge. And the problem is when I

1647
01:19:39,920 --> 01:19:41,960
Speaker 4: look at the schedule, like it's just you mentioned it,

1648
01:19:42,040 --> 01:19:46,559
Speaker 4: they have I think four Clayer wins, but then probably

1649
01:19:46,560 --> 01:19:49,040
Speaker 4: four clear losses in two lane way gap and I'll

1650
01:19:49,040 --> 01:19:51,800
Speaker 4: give you your Texas State win. So you're kind of needing

1651
01:19:51,800 --> 01:19:54,920
Speaker 4: them to win their all four coin flip games to

1652
01:19:55,000 --> 01:19:57,479
Speaker 4: get eight wins. They'll probably be a favorite in all

1653
01:19:57,479 --> 01:19:58,680
Speaker 4: of them, but I don't know, I trust them to

1654
01:19:58,680 --> 01:20:01,479
Speaker 4: win all four. So I'll go with you know, seven

1655
01:20:01,560 --> 01:20:03,519
Speaker 4: or ay, I'll go with seven. That's my my final thing.

1656
01:20:04,360 --> 01:20:07,280
Speaker 1: I lean over what do you think suck? Uh?

1657
01:20:07,560 --> 01:20:12,840
Speaker 2: Yeah? I mean I project Devin six so over unders

1658
01:20:12,840 --> 01:20:14,479
Speaker 2: what best out there? Over seven and a half minus

1659
01:20:14,479 --> 01:20:17,880
Speaker 2: one thirty four? I think so nothing for me. But

1660
01:20:18,000 --> 01:20:21,240
Speaker 2: I will say, by the way you say Desormo, I

1661
01:20:21,360 --> 01:20:24,200
Speaker 2: said that many times. There's a tweet down in Cajun

1662
01:20:24,280 --> 01:20:27,120
Speaker 2: and Creole country. There was like an argument on like

1663
01:20:27,160 --> 01:20:30,120
Speaker 2: message boards and on Twitter about how to pronounce his name.

1664
01:20:30,720 --> 01:20:34,679
Speaker 2: And it turns out it's des uh mo. It's hard

1665
01:20:34,680 --> 01:20:36,960
Speaker 2: for my brain to even said it. And the reason

1666
01:20:37,000 --> 01:20:39,559
Speaker 2: I know that is because he liked the tweet of

1667
01:20:39,560 --> 01:20:42,440
Speaker 2: one of the people in the argument saying it's dazy

1668
01:20:43,320 --> 01:20:49,080
Speaker 2: uh m o, and it's liked by dem I saw.

1669
01:20:49,080 --> 01:20:50,479
Speaker 2: It's so hard for me to say because you see.

1670
01:20:50,360 --> 01:20:52,240
Speaker 4: That with the IMN have to write that down.

1671
01:20:53,560 --> 01:20:56,240
Speaker 2: I haven't written down, and every time I have a

1672
01:20:56,360 --> 01:21:00,000
Speaker 2: talk about Louisiana, I have to write dazy dash uh

1673
01:21:00,120 --> 01:21:04,040
Speaker 2: dash m uh. Anyway, I'm not sold on the quarterback.

1674
01:21:04,080 --> 01:21:06,920
Speaker 2: That's I actually thought Collier, the Juco kid, was maybe

1675
01:21:06,960 --> 01:21:11,160
Speaker 2: their most intriguing easy in eligible, discovered ineligible academically. I

1676
01:21:11,160 --> 01:21:13,880
Speaker 2: don't trust Fields, he takes way too many sacks. I

1677
01:21:13,880 --> 01:21:17,800
Speaker 2: don't trust Wolrigine he has tons of injury issues. And

1678
01:21:17,880 --> 01:21:20,439
Speaker 2: I don't trust their receiver room. There's just lacks juice

1679
01:21:20,439 --> 01:21:22,960
Speaker 2: to me. I know they have a lot of returning production,

1680
01:21:23,000 --> 01:21:24,679
Speaker 2: which is like a rare It's like such a rare

1681
01:21:24,680 --> 01:21:27,320
Speaker 2: thing to say their top fifteen in the country, rare

1682
01:21:27,360 --> 01:21:31,160
Speaker 2: for a Sunbolt team. That's the that's the most alluring

1683
01:21:31,200 --> 01:21:33,080
Speaker 2: thing about this team in this conference with so much

1684
01:21:33,080 --> 01:21:37,080
Speaker 2: turnover this year, but they're gonna have a new quarterback.

1685
01:21:38,520 --> 01:21:41,160
Speaker 2: Chris Was. He did a lot of good things their

1686
01:21:42,320 --> 01:21:48,920
Speaker 2: the Red Smoke Deed should improve. But listen, I I

1687
01:21:48,960 --> 01:21:53,559
Speaker 2: don't I don't love Desmo two and nine and one

1688
01:21:53,600 --> 01:21:56,040
Speaker 2: score games, and he's made a lot of questionable decision

1689
01:21:56,040 --> 01:21:57,160
Speaker 2: I think I has a lot to do with him

1690
01:21:57,920 --> 01:22:01,320
Speaker 2: and with their schedule. Yes, it's it's but they're one

1691
01:22:01,360 --> 01:22:03,960
Speaker 2: of two teams to play five teams off of a

1692
01:22:04,040 --> 01:22:08,840
Speaker 2: bye this year. Stanford is the other. And you know

1693
01:22:08,880 --> 01:22:12,200
Speaker 2: they play Ulm at Ulm in the last game of

1694
01:22:12,200 --> 01:22:13,880
Speaker 2: the year, Like that's the worst time to get them.

1695
01:22:13,920 --> 01:22:15,679
Speaker 2: You don't get you out like on the road last

1696
01:22:15,680 --> 01:22:20,280
Speaker 2: game of the year. So yeah, the d was super

1697
01:22:20,320 --> 01:22:24,800
Speaker 2: young last year. You hope with a new DC, more experience,

1698
01:22:26,200 --> 01:22:27,560
Speaker 2: you can see some improven on that side. But it

1699
01:22:27,600 --> 01:22:30,280
Speaker 2: comes out a quarterback for me, which whyt's six to one.

1700
01:22:30,600 --> 01:22:33,240
Speaker 2: No thanks. I have another team in the wild wild

1701
01:22:33,240 --> 01:22:37,599
Speaker 2: West that I'm more interested in. All right, let's talkt

1702
01:22:37,640 --> 01:22:41,320
Speaker 2: Arkansas State then. Butch Jones enters year four, two and

1703
01:22:41,400 --> 01:22:44,080
Speaker 2: ten to three, and nine to six and seven, a

1704
01:22:44,080 --> 01:22:47,120
Speaker 2: little engine that could there. They're six and seven last year,

1705
01:22:47,120 --> 01:22:49,880
Speaker 2: as I mentioned, even four and four and Sunbelt play

1706
01:22:50,160 --> 01:22:52,760
Speaker 2: lost in the Chamellea Bowl by two to Northern Illinois,

1707
01:22:52,960 --> 01:22:54,800
Speaker 2: their win total six or six and a half in

1708
01:22:54,840 --> 01:22:57,080
Speaker 2: the market fourteen to one to win this thing, eighty

1709
01:22:57,120 --> 01:22:57,719
Speaker 2: to one to make.

1710
01:22:57,600 --> 01:23:00,200
Speaker 1: The College Fotball Playoff. It's strange to say, but one

1711
01:23:00,240 --> 01:23:02,720
Speaker 1: of my most confident moments in the early season was

1712
01:23:02,760 --> 01:23:05,800
Speaker 1: taking Oklahoma laying thirty six against the Red Wolves. The

1713
01:23:05,840 --> 01:23:08,639
Speaker 1: Sooners won seventy three to nothing, and then Memphis nuked

1714
01:23:08,640 --> 01:23:10,720
Speaker 1: to the Red Wolves again thirty seven to three the

1715
01:23:10,720 --> 01:23:12,639
Speaker 1: following week, and it just seemed like, all right, butch

1716
01:23:12,720 --> 01:23:15,040
Speaker 1: Jones is just playing out the string here, He's done.

1717
01:23:15,280 --> 01:23:18,559
Speaker 1: But instead that ended up, you know, forcing him to

1718
01:23:18,720 --> 01:23:21,280
Speaker 1: hand over the reigns of the offense to Jalen Rainer

1719
01:23:21,320 --> 01:23:24,160
Speaker 1: in September. He responds by going five and five as

1720
01:23:24,160 --> 01:23:27,400
Speaker 1: a starter, what while earning some Belt Conference Freshman of

1721
01:23:27,400 --> 01:23:30,200
Speaker 1: the Year honors. He threw six tds against UMass, he

1722
01:23:30,280 --> 01:23:33,440
Speaker 1: ran for two tds against both Southern Miss and Louisiana,

1723
01:23:33,800 --> 01:23:36,599
Speaker 1: and he had a super young supporting cast. Arkansas State

1724
01:23:36,720 --> 01:23:39,200
Speaker 1: was the third youngest team in America and still made

1725
01:23:39,240 --> 01:23:41,599
Speaker 1: a Bowl and still nearly won it. Now they bring

1726
01:23:41,640 --> 01:23:44,800
Speaker 1: back nine offensive starters including their top russure.

1727
01:23:45,120 --> 01:23:46,759
Speaker 2: And six sophomore starters on offense.

1728
01:23:47,240 --> 01:23:50,920
Speaker 1: Just crazy Jaques cross their top rushers back. Somehow, I

1729
01:23:50,920 --> 01:23:53,160
Speaker 1: don't know how they kept Corey Rucker out of the

1730
01:23:53,160 --> 01:23:55,760
Speaker 1: transfer portal. He seemed like someone Taylor made to go

1731
01:23:55,800 --> 01:23:58,679
Speaker 1: get an nil bag play for even just a better

1732
01:23:58,760 --> 01:24:02,200
Speaker 1: G five program, lower P four team. But he's back,

1733
01:24:02,600 --> 01:24:06,200
Speaker 1: and they also transitioning the lightning quick Malie Hornsby from

1734
01:24:06,280 --> 01:24:09,439
Speaker 1: quarterback to wide receiver. They led the SBC in that

1735
01:24:09,560 --> 01:24:11,920
Speaker 1: tarpet plus five and a half according to Collins numbers.

1736
01:24:11,920 --> 01:24:14,439
Speaker 1: So a lot to like in terms of continuity. But

1737
01:24:14,520 --> 01:24:16,360
Speaker 1: then you get to the defense. I mean, you guys,

1738
01:24:16,439 --> 01:24:18,920
Speaker 1: you know were stomping all over my Bobcats defense. This

1739
01:24:19,000 --> 01:24:22,360
Speaker 1: defense was truly awful. They returned five starters, They brought

1740
01:24:22,360 --> 01:24:24,640
Speaker 1: in transfers from Georgia Tech and A and M on

1741
01:24:24,680 --> 01:24:27,280
Speaker 1: the defensive line. They have a lot of experience on

1742
01:24:27,320 --> 01:24:30,160
Speaker 1: a per snap basis, according to Bill Conley. You know,

1743
01:24:30,400 --> 01:24:33,120
Speaker 1: they have so many players back with over one hundred,

1744
01:24:33,120 --> 01:24:35,120
Speaker 1: one hundred and fifty two hundred snaps from last year.

1745
01:24:35,479 --> 01:24:38,799
Speaker 1: Defensive coordinator Rob Harley gave twenty guys that many snaps

1746
01:24:38,840 --> 01:24:41,439
Speaker 1: over two hundreds so it's interesting to see if that

1747
01:24:41,479 --> 01:24:44,599
Speaker 1: pays any dividends. Even if there's still a defense hovering

1748
01:24:44,640 --> 01:24:46,960
Speaker 1: in the one hundreds the one tens. I think that

1749
01:24:47,000 --> 01:24:49,960
Speaker 1: would probably be the worst case scenario. They're going to

1750
01:24:50,000 --> 01:24:51,720
Speaker 1: score a lot of points with this offense. They have

1751
01:24:51,720 --> 01:24:54,000
Speaker 1: a chance to play spoiler in this conference. At the

1752
01:24:54,080 --> 01:24:56,920
Speaker 1: very least. I love that they close at Georgia State

1753
01:24:57,000 --> 01:24:59,880
Speaker 1: home games against Monroe and Old Dominion. If they can

1754
01:25:00,080 --> 01:25:04,080
Speaker 1: find three wins between Central Arkansas, Tulsa, South Alabama, all

1755
01:25:04,120 --> 01:25:07,360
Speaker 1: at home, and at Southern Miss, they're right on this number.

1756
01:25:07,439 --> 01:25:08,960
Speaker 1: It's a pass for me. But this is a team

1757
01:25:09,000 --> 01:25:12,080
Speaker 1: I'm going to be very interested in playing as an overteam.

1758
01:25:12,320 --> 01:25:14,840
Speaker 1: I don't think these numbers can be high enough. So

1759
01:25:15,120 --> 01:25:17,040
Speaker 1: that's at least how I have them circled, and I

1760
01:25:17,120 --> 01:25:20,200
Speaker 1: just want to see if there's any improvement defensively. Ill

1761
01:25:20,320 --> 01:25:21,680
Speaker 1: what do you think about the Red Wolves? Was this

1762
01:25:21,800 --> 01:25:23,880
Speaker 1: the team that was peaking your interest in the West.

1763
01:25:24,320 --> 01:25:26,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, this is why I like to win the last

1764
01:25:26,040 --> 01:25:29,200
Speaker 4: plus six hundred. I believe you owe Butch Jones an

1765
01:25:29,200 --> 01:25:32,240
Speaker 4: apology because you had his eulogy written before the season

1766
01:25:32,280 --> 01:25:36,960
Speaker 4: even started. But Jones was the first ever BBOC sound

1767
01:25:37,080 --> 01:25:39,559
Speaker 4: drop that we had to have switched mid season. We

1768
01:25:39,600 --> 01:25:41,960
Speaker 4: started the year with Butch, don't kill my vibe and

1769
01:25:42,040 --> 01:25:44,360
Speaker 4: changed it to butch better have my money. Halfway through

1770
01:25:44,360 --> 01:25:47,439
Speaker 4: the year. This team surprised every winning six games, and

1771
01:25:47,479 --> 01:25:49,439
Speaker 4: you mentioned it. It was when they switched to Jalen

1772
01:25:49,479 --> 01:25:52,880
Speaker 4: Rainer quarterback. And he is my guy in the Sunbelt.

1773
01:25:53,320 --> 01:25:56,840
Speaker 4: I love Jalen Rayner. He is electric. Said seventeen touchdowns,

1774
01:25:57,439 --> 01:26:01,560
Speaker 4: just five rushing touchdowns. The offense turns ten other starters,

1775
01:26:01,840 --> 01:26:04,240
Speaker 4: Jock west Cross at running backs and his running mate

1776
01:26:04,320 --> 01:26:08,760
Speaker 4: Zach Wallace. They've kept Corey Rucker. Courtney Jackson is also back.

1777
01:26:08,920 --> 01:26:13,599
Speaker 4: Melie Hornsby's transferring in defense was brutal, but they bring

1778
01:26:13,680 --> 01:26:17,679
Speaker 4: back the only few good guys. They did have, Charles

1779
01:26:17,680 --> 01:26:22,240
Speaker 4: Willowkeys and safety Trevian Thomas. So do you look at

1780
01:26:22,240 --> 01:26:25,719
Speaker 4: the schedule. They avoid app State, James Madison, Coastal Georgia,

1781
01:26:25,760 --> 01:26:28,519
Speaker 4: Southern Marshall. So they're gonna lose obviously to Michigan and

1782
01:26:28,640 --> 01:26:31,960
Speaker 4: Iowa State, but they get you know, they go to

1783
01:26:32,000 --> 01:26:34,640
Speaker 4: Texas State and Louisiana are tough games. But I just

1784
01:26:34,720 --> 01:26:36,320
Speaker 4: kind of mentioned I'm not super high on either of

1785
01:26:36,320 --> 01:26:38,639
Speaker 4: those teams. So the big thing with me is you

1786
01:26:38,640 --> 01:26:40,479
Speaker 4: you you brought up Taxas State, So I'll use your

1787
01:26:40,520 --> 01:26:45,799
Speaker 4: own argument against that is they're you're betting on Kansas

1788
01:26:45,920 --> 01:26:48,880
Speaker 4: Texas State suddenly being good on defense, but they're the favorite. Yeah,

1789
01:26:48,960 --> 01:26:52,320
Speaker 4: I'm betting on.

1790
01:26:51,400 --> 01:26:54,720
Speaker 2: To win the conference. You can find sixteen to one

1791
01:26:55,479 --> 01:26:58,679
Speaker 2: on Arkansas State out there. And by the way, I'll

1792
01:26:58,680 --> 01:27:02,120
Speaker 2: do this every preview shop around. Yeah. I just looked

1793
01:27:02,120 --> 01:27:05,800
Speaker 2: two books. Arkansas State's eight to one on one and

1794
01:27:05,920 --> 01:27:09,880
Speaker 2: sixteen to one on another. So I mean, you're in

1795
01:27:09,880 --> 01:27:14,200
Speaker 2: a better future. Don't give up that free potential. Winning'spice V.

1796
01:27:14,920 --> 01:27:17,000
Speaker 4: I believe the sixteen to one is actually at betam GM.

1797
01:27:17,080 --> 01:27:19,559
Speaker 4: So if you like arc State like I do, sixteen

1798
01:27:19,560 --> 01:27:23,719
Speaker 4: to one, yes, you're you're, you're you're just betting on there.

1799
01:27:23,720 --> 01:27:25,280
Speaker 4: You want to bet on the Texas State defense to

1800
01:27:25,400 --> 01:27:27,080
Speaker 4: be better at four to one, I'm betting on the

1801
01:27:27,160 --> 01:27:29,160
Speaker 4: Arkansas State defense to be better at sixteen to one.

1802
01:27:29,640 --> 01:27:32,120
Speaker 4: So give me the Red Wolves. I love everything on

1803
01:27:32,200 --> 01:27:34,799
Speaker 4: offense and if the if the defense takes a step

1804
01:27:35,000 --> 01:27:37,479
Speaker 4: step step forward, I mean this is the bowl team.

1805
01:27:37,520 --> 01:27:39,240
Speaker 4: I like the over six and a half and I

1806
01:27:39,360 --> 01:27:41,200
Speaker 4: like a flyer on them too. I don't know that

1807
01:27:41,200 --> 01:27:43,360
Speaker 4: I'll take to win the division, but I'll win the conference.

1808
01:27:43,400 --> 01:27:45,720
Speaker 4: But I'll definitely take that six to one, eight to

1809
01:27:45,760 --> 01:27:46,879
Speaker 4: one to win the division.

1810
01:27:48,479 --> 01:27:50,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree. This is my team that I had circled.

1811
01:27:52,520 --> 01:27:55,200
Speaker 2: Look to both the Texas State and Arkansas State. Both

1812
01:27:55,200 --> 01:27:58,240
Speaker 2: defenses were they had less your test. Arkansas State one

1813
01:27:58,360 --> 01:28:01,080
Speaker 2: seventy seven to thirty one was the final score. I think.

1814
01:28:02,680 --> 01:28:04,840
Speaker 1: That game, Hey, they got that game in Jones bro.

1815
01:28:05,160 --> 01:28:08,679
Speaker 2: That was if the game. That's like a Texas tex

1816
01:28:09,080 --> 01:28:10,840
Speaker 2: Texas State's gonna be ready for that game. They are,

1817
01:28:10,960 --> 01:28:14,880
Speaker 2: so State put up eighty on them. So but look,

1818
01:28:14,880 --> 01:28:18,559
Speaker 2: they've been super young the past two years, like they

1819
01:28:18,600 --> 01:28:20,800
Speaker 2: but they've had really good recruiting, like this is the year,

1820
01:28:20,840 --> 01:28:23,599
Speaker 2: like this is the upswing year. I thought Butch Jones

1821
01:28:23,640 --> 01:28:25,800
Speaker 2: was done. He was crying on the sidelines, but they

1822
01:28:25,880 --> 01:28:28,559
Speaker 2: finished strong. Their offense should be good. The one thing

1823
01:28:28,560 --> 01:28:30,960
Speaker 2: I'm waiting on before I place this is there's a

1824
01:28:31,000 --> 01:28:32,880
Speaker 2: couple of injuries on offense. I don't want to watch

1825
01:28:33,520 --> 01:28:38,320
Speaker 2: Jacob Bayer, their center, who's recovering from an injury in spring.

1826
01:28:38,520 --> 01:28:43,639
Speaker 2: He's super important. If he's in and healthy, then everything

1827
01:28:43,640 --> 01:28:45,960
Speaker 2: else falls into place in the offensive line. Right guard

1828
01:28:46,040 --> 01:28:49,760
Speaker 2: is really the only question on the offense then, So

1829
01:28:49,920 --> 01:28:51,720
Speaker 2: I want to see if he how healthy he is,

1830
01:28:52,080 --> 01:28:54,240
Speaker 2: and if he's when he's gonna be back, and if

1831
01:28:54,240 --> 01:28:58,080
Speaker 2: he's gonna be at full strength. A couple other injuries

1832
01:28:58,120 --> 01:29:00,360
Speaker 2: I want to watch too. I remember, I'm bit afraid

1833
01:29:00,360 --> 01:29:02,439
Speaker 2: that Rayner, Like, does he have a sophomore slump? You

1834
01:29:02,439 --> 01:29:04,320
Speaker 2: see that sometimes? Can he really live up to the

1835
01:29:04,320 --> 01:29:06,599
Speaker 2: expect you know, to what we saw last year? Can

1836
01:29:06,600 --> 01:29:08,640
Speaker 2: he improve? You know, he impressed some in some of

1837
01:29:08,680 --> 01:29:11,760
Speaker 2: the drills that demanding mecatholic, I don't care, like it

1838
01:29:11,840 --> 01:29:15,559
Speaker 2: could all just you know, go downhill. But as a flyer,

1839
01:29:16,280 --> 01:29:19,200
Speaker 2: and I project them six point four, so you can

1840
01:29:19,240 --> 01:29:23,200
Speaker 2: find like over six basically free money, even money, excuse me.

1841
01:29:24,880 --> 01:29:27,360
Speaker 2: And look their top ten in experience last year they

1842
01:29:27,360 --> 01:29:32,519
Speaker 2: were bottom twenty. So yeah, a non division To get

1843
01:29:32,560 --> 01:29:35,439
Speaker 2: Georgia State, NODU, you got to go to Texas State.

1844
01:29:36,240 --> 01:29:38,000
Speaker 2: The price difference, like could they win that game? That

1845
01:29:38,040 --> 01:29:42,280
Speaker 2: game should be wild, like some wild shootout. And the

1846
01:29:42,360 --> 01:29:45,320
Speaker 2: other thing I like is that they have quarterbacks to

1847
01:29:45,720 --> 01:29:50,320
Speaker 2: quarterback depth protection, Like if Rayner is a disaster, if

1848
01:29:50,320 --> 01:29:55,240
Speaker 2: he gets hurt. Timmy McClain is fully capable of winning

1849
01:29:55,280 --> 01:29:59,639
Speaker 2: games and running the same offense, so I like that too.

1850
01:29:59,720 --> 01:30:03,320
Speaker 2: They brought him in has some protection the D. Yeah,

1851
01:30:03,320 --> 01:30:06,320
Speaker 2: it's good. It's fribb to be bad. But the price

1852
01:30:06,400 --> 01:30:10,320
Speaker 2: here I think is too high. Arc State special teams

1853
01:30:10,320 --> 01:30:12,240
Speaker 2: do weary me. Also, they've lost a really good kicker

1854
01:30:12,240 --> 01:30:14,760
Speaker 2: on Bunter. The specialties are good last year and that

1855
01:30:14,760 --> 01:30:18,120
Speaker 2: could end up maybe swinging some close games. But too

1856
01:30:18,160 --> 01:30:19,640
Speaker 2: much guy on Arc State for me to pass up

1857
01:30:19,640 --> 01:30:28,479
Speaker 2: on a flyer. But gonna wait on some injuries. All right.

1858
01:30:28,520 --> 01:30:31,559
Speaker 1: We are on to the South Alabama Jags. Major Apple

1859
01:30:31,560 --> 01:30:33,719
Speaker 1: White and as head coach. He went fifteen to ten

1860
01:30:33,880 --> 01:30:35,839
Speaker 1: in two full years as the head coach of Houston,

1861
01:30:36,080 --> 01:30:38,320
Speaker 1: with a pair of Bowl losses. He's also been the

1862
01:30:38,400 --> 01:30:41,800
Speaker 1: USA offensive coordinator for the last three years. They go

1863
01:30:41,880 --> 01:30:45,360
Speaker 1: seven and six four and four, crushed Eastern Michigan in

1864
01:30:45,439 --> 01:30:48,200
Speaker 1: the sixty eight Ventures Bowl. Then Caine willmeck Bolts for

1865
01:30:48,240 --> 01:30:51,040
Speaker 1: the Alabama DC job. Their win total set six and

1866
01:30:51,040 --> 01:30:53,000
Speaker 1: a half to win the conference eight to one to

1867
01:30:53,000 --> 01:30:56,000
Speaker 1: make the playoff twenty two to one. Usually, if I

1868
01:30:56,040 --> 01:30:58,839
Speaker 1: said a team lost its head coach at starting quarterback.

1869
01:30:58,920 --> 01:31:01,160
Speaker 1: It's star wide receiver, at star running back and two

1870
01:31:01,200 --> 01:31:03,799
Speaker 1: starves in the offensive line. It would be a complete rebuild.

1871
01:31:04,160 --> 01:31:06,760
Speaker 1: But the lefty go Lopez was amazing in their bowl game.

1872
01:31:06,800 --> 01:31:08,879
Speaker 1: One hundred and ninety two through the air, three tds,

1873
01:31:09,160 --> 01:31:11,120
Speaker 1: eighty eight on the ground and another score. And if you

1874
01:31:11,160 --> 01:31:14,200
Speaker 1: look back at apple White in terms of his offenses

1875
01:31:14,439 --> 01:31:16,880
Speaker 1: that he got the most out of, you look at

1876
01:31:16,920 --> 01:31:20,320
Speaker 1: quarterbacks like greg Ward Derek King at Houston. Lopez can

1877
01:31:20,360 --> 01:31:22,240
Speaker 1: be a thousand yard rusher kind of guy. Now he

1878
01:31:22,320 --> 01:31:24,680
Speaker 1: needs to be, because he went zero for thirteen in

1879
01:31:24,720 --> 01:31:27,519
Speaker 1: the spring game, which was a bit of a scare.

1880
01:31:27,680 --> 01:31:30,640
Speaker 1: He's still got the Manning passing Camp invitation off of that,

1881
01:31:30,800 --> 01:31:34,720
Speaker 1: so kudos to him. I'll say this almost my guy pick.

1882
01:31:34,800 --> 01:31:37,120
Speaker 1: Keep an eye on Jamal Pritchett. The former walk on

1883
01:31:37,200 --> 01:31:40,679
Speaker 1: had a breakout season last year and Major Applewhite loves

1884
01:31:40,920 --> 01:31:43,560
Speaker 1: to force feed his top option. Over the course of

1885
01:31:43,560 --> 01:31:46,400
Speaker 1: the last three years as the OC his wide receiver

1886
01:31:46,520 --> 01:31:49,200
Speaker 1: one had a twenty seven percent target chair, which was

1887
01:31:49,240 --> 01:31:51,120
Speaker 1: the fourth highest in the country. So just keep an

1888
01:31:51,120 --> 01:31:52,760
Speaker 1: eye on pritch It. If you get into any of

1889
01:31:52,760 --> 01:31:55,519
Speaker 1: those player props, I think that could be interesting. I

1890
01:31:55,560 --> 01:31:57,519
Speaker 1: wish I could be optimistic about the defense in the

1891
01:31:57,560 --> 01:32:00,559
Speaker 1: same way I'm optimistic about the offense. They lose a

1892
01:32:00,560 --> 01:32:03,519
Speaker 1: great defensive mind like Kane Wollmack. His DC Corey Patoon

1893
01:32:03,920 --> 01:32:07,400
Speaker 1: also gone. Eight starters gone. This defense was top thirty

1894
01:32:07,439 --> 01:32:09,519
Speaker 1: and a lot of meaningful metrics. But I sense a

1895
01:32:09,560 --> 01:32:12,800
Speaker 1: big step back coming. I don't really know how to

1896
01:32:12,840 --> 01:32:14,960
Speaker 1: play this team because I think they're going to be

1897
01:32:14,960 --> 01:32:17,840
Speaker 1: a true half team. The all offense has the potential

1898
01:32:18,160 --> 01:32:21,080
Speaker 1: if Lopez is that guy and they play at the

1899
01:32:21,160 --> 01:32:23,320
Speaker 1: kind of breakneck pace and he makes all kinds of

1900
01:32:23,320 --> 01:32:27,519
Speaker 1: plays outside of the pocket. But defensively, this just worries

1901
01:32:27,560 --> 01:32:29,519
Speaker 1: me when I get into the schedule a little bit.

1902
01:32:29,520 --> 01:32:31,640
Speaker 1: This is just a pure pass. So I'll give you

1903
01:32:31,720 --> 01:32:33,559
Speaker 1: first stuck. How are you playing the Jags this year?

1904
01:32:33,800 --> 01:32:39,639
Speaker 2: Yeah, I've reject six point three. I would lean under

1905
01:32:41,320 --> 01:32:43,679
Speaker 2: it's their schedule was really weird. It breaks down it's

1906
01:32:43,680 --> 01:32:47,240
Speaker 2: like three easy games, three hard games, three easy games,

1907
01:32:47,400 --> 01:32:50,760
Speaker 2: three hard games. So a lot of that's going to

1908
01:32:50,800 --> 01:32:52,599
Speaker 2: come down to, like they don't I don't really trust

1909
01:32:52,600 --> 01:32:53,840
Speaker 2: their death. A lot of it's going to come down to,

1910
01:32:53,920 --> 01:32:56,360
Speaker 2: like when their injuries are like because then you have

1911
01:32:56,439 --> 01:33:00,200
Speaker 2: like clustered easy games cluster hard games, so more variants there.

1912
01:33:00,200 --> 01:33:02,720
Speaker 2: But the defense just got crossed. Losing Banks, Robinson and

1913
01:33:02,800 --> 01:33:05,800
Speaker 2: Jacobs to the Porter really hurt. And then obviously on

1914
01:33:05,880 --> 01:33:09,920
Speaker 2: offense he lost Bradley Webb. Lacy hurts losing him to Louisville.

1915
01:33:10,800 --> 01:33:16,439
Speaker 2: It's the team that's bottom twenty in returning production. I'm look,

1916
01:33:16,479 --> 01:33:18,160
Speaker 2: I mean in the spring, when you lose your head coach,

1917
01:33:18,200 --> 01:33:21,040
Speaker 2: your DC and five starters the portal, it's gonna be

1918
01:33:21,080 --> 01:33:25,799
Speaker 2: tough sledding. I'm really concerned about quarterback with Geo Lopez.

1919
01:33:25,840 --> 01:33:28,559
Speaker 2: I'm not sure if he's ready. They're back up against

1920
01:33:28,560 --> 01:33:30,760
Speaker 2: the fort knot of like third string defense in the

1921
01:33:30,760 --> 01:33:33,000
Speaker 2: spring game, their first and second string quarterback because and

1922
01:33:33,040 --> 01:33:35,760
Speaker 2: now it's a competition, it should be Lopez. But that's

1923
01:33:35,760 --> 01:33:38,599
Speaker 2: what happooy is saying. Their first and second string quarterback

1924
01:33:38,600 --> 01:33:42,240
Speaker 2: in the spring game with four twenty six. That includes

1925
01:33:42,240 --> 01:33:46,120
Speaker 2: lopezz zero thirteen four to twenty six with three picks,

1926
01:33:47,680 --> 01:33:51,200
Speaker 2: and this album of defense lost the toun so you

1927
01:33:51,240 --> 01:33:54,160
Speaker 2: know they could start out three and zero. North Texas

1928
01:33:54,280 --> 01:33:56,880
Speaker 2: about a touchdown favorite at Ohio Northwestern State at home.

1929
01:33:57,360 --> 01:34:01,320
Speaker 2: We'll see, but a lot of change early. I'm I'm

1930
01:34:01,400 --> 01:34:04,160
Speaker 2: just it sucks las year. They're kind of like true,

1931
01:34:04,160 --> 01:34:06,240
Speaker 2: they were really good last year. They're extremely veteran team,

1932
01:34:06,720 --> 01:34:10,000
Speaker 2: and they just got unlucky in my close games. And

1933
01:34:10,400 --> 01:34:12,840
Speaker 2: they should have been better first time coordinators here, but

1934
01:34:12,880 --> 01:34:14,800
Speaker 2: they've been on the staff. I'm just not an apple

1935
01:34:14,800 --> 01:34:18,679
Speaker 2: White guy. People forget that when he was at Houston,

1936
01:34:18,720 --> 01:34:20,680
Speaker 2: they were supposed to be like this, right, they were

1937
01:34:20,720 --> 01:34:24,680
Speaker 2: like they're the star of the group of five, and

1938
01:34:25,439 --> 01:34:27,439
Speaker 2: you know, so you say fifteen and sevent, you're like, okay,

1939
01:34:27,520 --> 01:34:30,519
Speaker 2: but they were way higher expectations and you go back

1940
01:34:30,560 --> 01:34:33,000
Speaker 2: to like some of the bowl games. Now he went

1941
01:34:33,040 --> 01:34:35,160
Speaker 2: on and three I think in bowl games. They got

1942
01:34:36,080 --> 01:34:40,880
Speaker 2: absolutely all obliterated in a Bowl game. And it's still

1943
01:34:40,920 --> 01:34:43,439
Speaker 2: the record for most points in the Bowl ever scored

1944
01:34:43,520 --> 01:34:48,000
Speaker 2: in an Army Right Service Academy against apple White's team.

1945
01:34:48,160 --> 01:34:51,000
Speaker 2: So there were some spots where like, you know, his

1946
01:34:51,080 --> 01:34:56,960
Speaker 2: teams would start fast and fade and I'm not sold

1947
01:34:56,960 --> 01:34:59,920
Speaker 2: on apple White as a head coach. But get it

1948
01:35:00,080 --> 01:35:02,799
Speaker 2: on against Troy for my under in South ALBUMA finally

1949
01:35:02,840 --> 01:35:06,479
Speaker 2: beat Troy. But another reset really interesting in that this

1950
01:35:06,680 --> 01:35:09,920
Speaker 2: is last year we have JMU in the last couple

1951
01:35:09,960 --> 01:35:13,320
Speaker 2: of years, JMU, Troy, South Alabama, all of them full

1952
01:35:13,400 --> 01:35:15,200
Speaker 2: resets and they've been at the top of the league.

1953
01:35:15,439 --> 01:35:17,320
Speaker 2: For what it's worth. In the West, you probably you

1954
01:35:17,320 --> 01:35:21,160
Speaker 2: have like there's seventeen six new quarterbacks. The only team

1955
01:35:21,160 --> 01:35:23,640
Speaker 2: that brings a quarterback is Arkansas State, you know, I

1956
01:35:23,680 --> 01:35:25,759
Speaker 2: mean Louisiana. They had some guys that have played before.

1957
01:35:26,640 --> 01:35:28,760
Speaker 2: The only team with the same head coach OFFENSEI coorting

1958
01:35:28,840 --> 01:35:32,679
Speaker 2: or defense quarter again Arkansas State. So anotherre are some

1959
01:35:32,720 --> 01:35:34,880
Speaker 2: more cases for as far as continuity is concerned for

1960
01:35:35,160 --> 01:35:37,600
Speaker 2: the red Wolves, But South Abama is a pass for me.

1961
01:35:38,720 --> 01:35:41,120
Speaker 2: Get it done against Troy Major.

1962
01:35:42,560 --> 01:35:44,559
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm in a pass too. A number of looks

1963
01:35:44,560 --> 01:35:47,560
Speaker 4: about right. There's just too many questions, too much uncertainty.

1964
01:35:47,800 --> 01:35:50,880
Speaker 4: Maybe maybe Geo Lopez has like the opposite of Charlie

1965
01:35:50,960 --> 01:35:53,679
Speaker 4: Burwer when he was like sixteen for sixteen at Utah

1966
01:35:53,720 --> 01:35:56,400
Speaker 4: and then was like horrific. Maybe Geo to the exact

1967
01:35:56,479 --> 01:35:59,400
Speaker 4: opposite of that. I mean, they have they have good

1968
01:35:59,439 --> 01:36:03,360
Speaker 4: pieces the receivers. The defensive front should be pretty good

1969
01:36:03,400 --> 01:36:07,640
Speaker 4: with Waikivius Thomas and Murray Strong. Jayden Voisen's back at

1970
01:36:07,640 --> 01:36:10,559
Speaker 4: safety to kind of somewhat stabilize the secondary that that

1971
01:36:10,640 --> 01:36:14,160
Speaker 4: does have questions. Obviously the offense. You know, you keep

1972
01:36:14,160 --> 01:36:16,920
Speaker 4: apple Way with the offense, but I think there's too

1973
01:36:16,920 --> 01:36:19,759
Speaker 4: many questions. I don't think the drop off will be massive.

1974
01:36:21,040 --> 01:36:23,680
Speaker 4: Six wins is probably around right. I think they can

1975
01:36:23,760 --> 01:36:25,719
Speaker 4: make a bowl, but six and a half a little

1976
01:36:25,720 --> 01:36:27,280
Speaker 4: too rich for me, so I'll pass here.

1977
01:36:27,360 --> 01:36:30,679
Speaker 2: Yeah, they have three good pieces in the secondary Fletcher,

1978
01:36:30,760 --> 01:36:33,360
Speaker 2: Voice and and Web, but I like shot out Ladarius

1979
01:36:33,400 --> 01:36:36,280
Speaker 2: Web is dad now I feel old. The other two

1980
01:36:36,280 --> 01:36:38,400
Speaker 2: spots are a major question. The thing that I think

1981
01:36:38,400 --> 01:36:40,080
Speaker 2: will make or break this d like if it's a

1982
01:36:40,080 --> 01:36:41,920
Speaker 2: big fall off or not, is can they get a

1983
01:36:41,960 --> 01:36:44,040
Speaker 2: pass rush? The linebackers obviously a question, but can they

1984
01:36:44,040 --> 01:36:45,760
Speaker 2: get a pass rush to kind of help out those

1985
01:36:45,760 --> 01:36:48,400
Speaker 2: two other spots in the secondary which are definitely question marks.

1986
01:36:49,840 --> 01:36:52,880
Speaker 2: But yeah, this team is probably just going to be

1987
01:36:54,200 --> 01:36:58,000
Speaker 2: five six, seven win team. I think the numbers about right.

1988
01:37:00,400 --> 01:37:02,880
Speaker 1: All right, let's turn to Southern miss. Will Hall entering

1989
01:37:02,960 --> 01:37:05,240
Speaker 1: year four goes three and nine, seven and six. We

1990
01:37:05,240 --> 01:37:07,800
Speaker 1: start getting optimistic about him. Three to nine last year

1991
01:37:07,840 --> 01:37:10,599
Speaker 1: two and six in Sunbell Play win total send at

1992
01:37:10,640 --> 01:37:13,479
Speaker 1: four outs to win the conference at about fifty to one,

1993
01:37:13,640 --> 01:37:15,599
Speaker 1: two hundred to one to make the college football Playoff.

1994
01:37:16,000 --> 01:37:18,400
Speaker 1: How desperate are things getting in Hattiesburg because he just

1995
01:37:18,400 --> 01:37:23,400
Speaker 1: pulled off the double coordinator flush Sam Greg Yeah, Sam

1996
01:37:23,439 --> 01:37:25,800
Speaker 1: Greg gone? Is oh see Dan O'Brien done after just

1997
01:37:25,840 --> 01:37:28,160
Speaker 1: one years the DC chip Long as you mentioned, and

1998
01:37:28,240 --> 01:37:32,120
Speaker 1: at offensive coordinator and Clay Bignell at defensive coordinator. Now

1999
01:37:32,240 --> 01:37:35,519
Speaker 1: Long bounced around. He's bounced around a ton. You know.

2000
01:37:35,680 --> 01:37:38,160
Speaker 1: At Notre Dame, his offenses were up and down, but

2001
01:37:38,240 --> 01:37:41,200
Speaker 1: ultimately they sputtered in big moments. Big Nell, that was

2002
01:37:41,240 --> 01:37:43,840
Speaker 1: a rising star. He could be interesting. Having just coached

2003
01:37:43,880 --> 01:37:46,760
Speaker 1: up the Eastern Illinois defense, they were havoc minded. They

2004
01:37:46,800 --> 01:37:50,080
Speaker 1: finished sixth in turnovers forced. If you google him, coaches

2005
01:37:50,080 --> 01:37:52,200
Speaker 1: are in lockstep that everyone is saying that this guy

2006
01:37:52,280 --> 01:37:54,439
Speaker 1: is the next big thing. So apparently this is going

2007
01:37:54,479 --> 01:37:56,080
Speaker 1: to be like a stepping stone job for him if

2008
01:37:56,080 --> 01:37:58,920
Speaker 1: he can turn around this defense, as we've been saying

2009
01:37:58,960 --> 01:38:02,320
Speaker 1: for years, figure out this quarterback problem, because what we

2010
01:38:02,360 --> 01:38:04,400
Speaker 1: know for sure is they can't break glass and pull

2011
01:38:04,400 --> 01:38:06,640
Speaker 1: out Frank Gore Junior in a pinch anymore, which is

2012
01:38:06,640 --> 01:38:08,519
Speaker 1: what he was wont to do. So he's got a

2013
01:38:08,560 --> 01:38:12,040
Speaker 1: dual threat and Ethan Crawford or Tate Roudemaker, who comes

2014
01:38:12,040 --> 01:38:13,960
Speaker 1: over from Florida State. The last time we saw him,

2015
01:38:14,000 --> 01:38:16,160
Speaker 1: he was doing a big heap of nothing against Florida

2016
01:38:16,200 --> 01:38:19,200
Speaker 1: in that regular season finale for Florida State. He's got

2017
01:38:19,240 --> 01:38:21,799
Speaker 1: a lot of talent. He's certainly an upgrade on paper.

2018
01:38:22,040 --> 01:38:23,519
Speaker 1: We'll see if he wins the job and if he

2019
01:38:23,520 --> 01:38:25,599
Speaker 1: can do anything with this offense that has been sputtering

2020
01:38:25,600 --> 01:38:28,240
Speaker 1: through the air for years. Very little experience on the

2021
01:38:28,280 --> 01:38:30,639
Speaker 1: offensive line, which makes it difficult to rely on Drake

2022
01:38:30,720 --> 01:38:33,479
Speaker 1: Clark as their experienced weapon out of the backfield. If

2023
01:38:33,520 --> 01:38:35,920
Speaker 1: you go by Long in terms of you know, his

2024
01:38:36,040 --> 01:38:39,120
Speaker 1: previous stops. They should throw a bit more than they did.

2025
01:38:39,280 --> 01:38:41,280
Speaker 1: And I mean obviously they're going to throw more because

2026
01:38:41,360 --> 01:38:43,760
Speaker 1: USM just love to pound the football with Frank Gore,

2027
01:38:44,120 --> 01:38:46,080
Speaker 1: but their go to a receiver time ins is the

2028
01:38:46,120 --> 01:38:49,120
Speaker 1: best option. He only has thirty nine receptions last year.

2029
01:38:49,880 --> 01:38:51,439
Speaker 1: I think this is it for Will Hall. I don't

2030
01:38:51,479 --> 01:38:53,040
Speaker 1: think he's going to get to a bowl. I think

2031
01:38:53,040 --> 01:38:55,040
Speaker 1: they're going to cut ties and move on. This is

2032
01:38:55,120 --> 01:38:58,120
Speaker 1: a proud program with you know, a rich history. They

2033
01:38:58,160 --> 01:39:01,240
Speaker 1: just didn't make it happen and I don't see lightning

2034
01:39:01,280 --> 01:39:03,840
Speaker 1: in a bottle from this quarterback room, So for that

2035
01:39:04,000 --> 01:39:07,080
Speaker 1: reason I lean under. But I think this is it

2036
01:39:07,160 --> 01:39:09,280
Speaker 1: for Will Hall, a guy who we really did believe.

2037
01:39:09,479 --> 01:39:12,479
Speaker 1: We talked ourselves into them a lot over the previous

2038
01:39:12,479 --> 01:39:14,720
Speaker 1: season last year, and it's just they weren't able to

2039
01:39:14,760 --> 01:39:17,799
Speaker 1: capitalize on a seven and six campaign, losing nine instead

2040
01:39:17,840 --> 01:39:20,280
Speaker 1: in twenty twenty three. I l what are your thoughts

2041
01:39:20,360 --> 01:39:21,720
Speaker 1: on the Eagles here?

2042
01:39:22,560 --> 01:39:24,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean when they lose you know, Swiss Army

2043
01:39:24,840 --> 01:39:28,040
Speaker 4: and knife Frank Gore Junior, that they basically lost their

2044
01:39:28,080 --> 01:39:30,919
Speaker 4: star running back, their best receiver, and their backup quarterback

2045
01:39:30,960 --> 01:39:33,960
Speaker 4: all in like one guy. So they have to completely

2046
01:39:34,000 --> 01:39:36,599
Speaker 4: rebuild the offense and the defense. You mentioned Chip Long

2047
01:39:36,640 --> 01:39:39,120
Speaker 4: He's I was reading. He said he's going to bring it,

2048
01:39:39,160 --> 01:39:41,559
Speaker 4: you know, a fast paced offense with a lot of

2049
01:39:41,600 --> 01:39:47,120
Speaker 4: prestat motion misdirection. How will Rodermaker handle that? I really

2050
01:39:47,160 --> 01:39:50,000
Speaker 4: don't know. So the miss kind of always has like

2051
01:39:50,040 --> 01:39:53,040
Speaker 4: a massive offensive line, so that should kind of be

2052
01:39:53,080 --> 01:39:55,960
Speaker 4: a solid unit, and the defense is kind of the

2053
01:39:55,960 --> 01:39:57,840
Speaker 4: same thing where they're they're kind of similar with it.

2054
01:39:57,840 --> 01:39:59,920
Speaker 4: I think they're gonna be the You're gonna be strong

2055
01:40:00,160 --> 01:40:01,880
Speaker 4: up front, and you get more and more questions as

2056
01:40:01,920 --> 01:40:03,760
Speaker 4: you work to the outside on on both sides of

2057
01:40:03,800 --> 01:40:06,880
Speaker 4: the ball. When I look at this schedule, to me,

2058
01:40:07,400 --> 01:40:11,760
Speaker 4: they have like four or five winnable games, even like

2059
01:40:11,880 --> 01:40:17,240
Speaker 4: remotely winnable. So they need to basically sweep Southeast Louisiana, Jacksonville, State,

2060
01:40:17,320 --> 01:40:21,240
Speaker 4: South Alabama, Marshall, ul Monroe go over this total and

2061
01:40:21,280 --> 01:40:23,880
Speaker 4: that's a tough ask. But the under has a ton

2062
01:40:23,920 --> 01:40:26,600
Speaker 4: of juice. So to me, this is kind of like

2063
01:40:26,600 --> 01:40:28,760
Speaker 4: an unplayable win total unless she wanted to go over.

2064
01:40:29,840 --> 01:40:31,400
Speaker 4: So yeah, it's it's kind of a pass for me.

2065
01:40:31,680 --> 01:40:35,080
Speaker 4: But I only see like five winnable games on the schedule.

2066
01:40:36,600 --> 01:40:42,760
Speaker 2: Paull ball, I still like Wallhaul. It's it's his His

2067
01:40:42,920 --> 01:40:46,360
Speaker 2: tenure in Hattisburg is gonna come down to Radamaker. I mean, Crawford,

2068
01:40:46,479 --> 01:40:50,800
Speaker 2: this is in the mix too, but Ken Radamaker come

2069
01:40:50,840 --> 01:40:53,519
Speaker 2: down a level and then take a mess of step

2070
01:40:53,560 --> 01:40:56,840
Speaker 2: and dominate. And something Mistress has in that quarterback. I

2071
01:40:56,840 --> 01:40:58,960
Speaker 2: mean they did so they tried so many guys, had

2072
01:40:59,000 --> 01:41:01,320
Speaker 2: so many injuries. That's kind of the Bowal case here

2073
01:41:01,400 --> 01:41:04,000
Speaker 2: is like there is some talent, like you brought in

2074
01:41:04,040 --> 01:41:06,479
Speaker 2: some sec guys that are in experience. You brought in

2075
01:41:06,520 --> 01:41:09,439
Speaker 2: some group of five guys with starting experience. They are

2076
01:41:09,520 --> 01:41:11,800
Speaker 2: big on the offense and defensive line, so like there's

2077
01:41:11,840 --> 01:41:13,320
Speaker 2: some pieces to work. But they also brought in a

2078
01:41:13,320 --> 01:41:15,920
Speaker 2: really good recruiting class, which is one of the reasons

2079
01:41:15,920 --> 01:41:17,800
Speaker 2: why their director of player personnel was just hired by

2080
01:41:17,800 --> 01:41:21,360
Speaker 2: the NFL, which is probably gonna hurt them long term,

2081
01:41:21,400 --> 01:41:23,280
Speaker 2: but for this year, they got a good recruiting class.

2082
01:41:25,800 --> 01:41:28,519
Speaker 2: So yeah, but I'm just not a chip long guy.

2083
01:41:29,040 --> 01:41:31,080
Speaker 2: There's lots of shuffle on the defense. They're moving guys

2084
01:41:31,080 --> 01:41:33,240
Speaker 2: all over the place, new positions, like, so there's a

2085
01:41:33,240 --> 01:41:36,400
Speaker 2: lot of uncertainty with this team. They're also what bottom

2086
01:41:36,640 --> 01:41:43,080
Speaker 2: twenty in returning production, switching defenses, switching offenses. It's it's

2087
01:41:43,280 --> 01:41:45,200
Speaker 2: a desperate move. But they've had bad injury locks, Like

2088
01:41:45,240 --> 01:41:48,120
Speaker 2: they got four defensive backs that are recovering from knee injuries,

2089
01:41:48,760 --> 01:41:53,759
Speaker 2: knee surgery, and you know, Daniels obviously tragically was shot.

2090
01:41:54,520 --> 01:41:57,680
Speaker 2: They lost Stanley as well, But there's still there's some

2091
01:41:57,760 --> 01:42:01,120
Speaker 2: experience there they can get healthy. I lean under on

2092
01:42:01,360 --> 01:42:05,360
Speaker 2: vibes like just and do this, but and my numbers

2093
01:42:05,400 --> 01:42:08,120
Speaker 2: slightly like the over I want. I want them to

2094
01:42:08,120 --> 01:42:11,920
Speaker 2: get to a ball bowl and save haul, but it

2095
01:42:11,960 --> 01:42:15,479
Speaker 2: could get ugly if they, you know, don't pick up

2096
01:42:15,479 --> 01:42:21,519
Speaker 2: some wins early on the Crazy Flyer. If you want

2097
01:42:21,520 --> 01:42:24,240
Speaker 2: the Crazy Flyer, the Sunbelt people like to always ask me,

2098
01:42:24,320 --> 01:42:26,240
Speaker 2: just like, give me some couch change bets, shout out

2099
01:42:26,320 --> 01:42:28,360
Speaker 2: leave off would be so, then miss fifty to one

2100
01:42:28,720 --> 01:42:33,400
Speaker 2: Radamaker hits. You know, the transfers from the SEC come in,

2101
01:42:33,840 --> 01:42:38,200
Speaker 2: they play well. You know you have hot defensive coordinator

2102
01:42:38,600 --> 01:42:44,240
Speaker 2: and his scheme impact is massive. They stay healthier. This

2103
01:42:44,320 --> 01:42:48,200
Speaker 2: is your uh, your flyer fifty to one best out there,

2104
01:42:48,400 --> 01:42:49,840
Speaker 2: but I'm not playing.

2105
01:42:49,520 --> 01:42:53,880
Speaker 1: It all right, We're gonna close up the sun Belt

2106
01:42:53,960 --> 01:42:57,479
Speaker 1: episode with ul Monroe. Brian Vincent. He should have been

2107
01:42:57,479 --> 01:42:59,519
Speaker 1: the head coach at UAB. He went seven and six

2108
01:42:59,560 --> 01:43:02,000
Speaker 1: and one year they screwed him over. They hired Trent Dilfer,

2109
01:43:02,040 --> 01:43:03,719
Speaker 1: who went four and eight. We'll get to him.

2110
01:43:04,120 --> 01:43:04,800
Speaker 2: Revenge.

2111
01:43:05,800 --> 01:43:08,639
Speaker 1: Revenge we do at home Baby Wig two. That's gonna

2112
01:43:08,640 --> 01:43:09,960
Speaker 1: be my super Bowl as well.

2113
01:43:10,000 --> 01:43:12,479
Speaker 2: Our defensive coordinator also just he was then assistant that

2114
01:43:12,520 --> 01:43:14,120
Speaker 2: you would be the past couple of years.

2115
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Speaker 4: You think this preview, you think this preview has been

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Speaker 4: long wait until me and Calabriys breakdown that game.

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Speaker 1: Now. Unfortunately for Brian Vincent, he's taken over a two

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Speaker 1: to ten team that went winless in the Belt in

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Speaker 1: Terry Bowden Swansong. Their win total, i think is accurately

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Speaker 1: priced at two and a half odds to win just

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Speaker 1: the Sun Belt, three hundred and fifty to one, to

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Speaker 1: make the College Football Playoff five hundred to one. There's

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Speaker 1: a lot of problems with this team. This is a

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Speaker 1: year zero, but let's start in the trenches. Elijah Fisher

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Speaker 1: is the only returning offensive lineman that left guard. Their

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Speaker 1: front seven has some experience, but they finished one hundred

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Speaker 1: and first against the run, couldn't generate any pass rush

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Speaker 1: to help their secondary. The back end finished one hundred

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Speaker 1: and fourteenth in coverage grade and one hundred and twenty

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Speaker 1: second at passing yards allowed. Offensively, it's like when is

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Speaker 1: this next? You know, generation of quarterbacks gonna show up

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Speaker 1: because back in the when they were the Northeast Louisiana Indians,

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Speaker 1: they had a lot of good quarterbacks. They had Stam Humphries,

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Speaker 1: Bobby Brister, Doug Peterson. That's three NFL quarterbacks to come

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Speaker 1: from this small program that went from the one double

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Speaker 1: A ranks up up to the big leagues, and they

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Speaker 1: had something good going with Chandler Rodgers two years ago,

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Speaker 1: but of course he hits the portal, goes to unt.

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Speaker 1: Now he's at cal so unfortunately they just can't keep

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Speaker 1: guys here. They rank one hundred and thirty third out

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Speaker 1: of one hundred and thirty four teams in returning production

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Speaker 1: and they cancel their spring game. So I think it

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Speaker 1: would be wrong for any of us to say that

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Speaker 1: we know what this offense is going to look like

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Speaker 1: this year. My best guess is a look at the

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Speaker 1: data when it comes to Vincent and he's going to

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Speaker 1: run a super slow offense that's going to try to

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Speaker 1: run the ball to protect his defense. His former top

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Speaker 1: backs at UAB, Spencer Brown, Dwayne McBride, and then Jaquory

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Speaker 1: Cross at Cross Key Merritt at New Mexico all over

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Speaker 1: forty percent in terms of carry load, so he likes

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Speaker 1: a bell cow. But they were all big boys. They

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Speaker 1: were all over two hundred pounds Hunter Smith, they're projected

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Speaker 1: top back it is just one hundred and eighty. That

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Speaker 1: kind of seems like a running back by committee situation

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Speaker 1: to me. So I think their opener against Jackson State

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Speaker 1: is really their winnable game on their schedule. After that,

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Speaker 1: it's gonna get dicey. I'm just gonna circle them. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you ab, we'll get to it. I want to see

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Speaker 1: a great performance against the Tigers and that opener. But really,

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Speaker 1: this is one of my big teams that I'm circling

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Speaker 1: Unders on. They're going to try to eat up as

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Speaker 1: much clock at that running clock after first downs, try

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Speaker 1: to go ahead and you know, maybe have a season

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Speaker 1: where you go nine and three on the Unders.

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Speaker 2: That's all.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna play the Warhawks here who By the way,

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Speaker 1: last thing, I'll end on a positive note. Just the

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Speaker 1: sweetest lids in the G five. They're helmets that they

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Speaker 1: trotted out at Sunbelt Media Days. If you haven't seen it,

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Speaker 1: go ahead and google it. They are phenomenal. They're going

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Speaker 1: to look good. They're probably not going to be very

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Speaker 1: good in twenty twenty four, but Vincent has time, the

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Speaker 1: administration believes in him. He's at least going to have

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Speaker 1: two or three years to get this going. So that's

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Speaker 1: it for you.

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Speaker 4: You wanted to end on a positive and you didn't

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Speaker 4: think to mention they brought in surge General Booty, General Offense.

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Speaker 1: Hey, I got to give you guys something at this point.

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Speaker 1: How much can I talk about a guy who hasn't

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Speaker 1: won the starting job yet?

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Speaker 2: But we'll say, can I paint a picture for you?

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Speaker 1: He won the job?

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Speaker 2: Can I'm paying a picture for you? September twenty first, Austin, Texas,

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Speaker 2: Oklahoma transfer. General Booty leads the two and oh Warhawks

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Speaker 2: into Austin against the three and oh Texas Longhorns and

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Speaker 2: they get and they lose by fifty.

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Speaker 4: He won the starting job the moment he was born

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Speaker 4: and named General Booty.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think he's gonna win the job of that.

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Speaker 2: This seems a mess. I mean they lost everything big

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Speaker 2: bring back out their corners who were terrible. But I

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Speaker 2: think that they're win till like youl have even when

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Speaker 2: they were bad. I mean they've always been bad. But

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Speaker 2: like the last couple of years, like they would still

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Speaker 2: just pull off like one upset Like last year they

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Speaker 2: should who did they should have beat a couple of

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Speaker 2: teams that was probably one to Texas in the fourth

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Speaker 2: five to go, But they always used to pull up.

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Speaker 2: They pull off like more upsets as doublegious dogs over

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Speaker 2: the last three years, and any other team in college football,

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Speaker 2: I could see them pulling off one, like they could

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Speaker 2: beat Southern Miss at home November ninth, They could beat

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Speaker 2: Texas State. It should have been them last year. But

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Speaker 2: I do think that the UAB spot, well we have

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Speaker 2: a lot of time talk about it, is really good spot.

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Speaker 2: I think that I project like two point three for

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Speaker 2: this team, but I think that probably decides their window

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Speaker 2: to probably get one other upset beat Jackson State, which

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Speaker 2: isn't a gimme, but I think the UAB game so

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Speaker 2: I'd rather just bet them with against UAV.

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Speaker 1: Before we get into your title game prediction, the two

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Speaker 1: teams who you think is gonna win it. We talked

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Speaker 1: Texas State is a great team, but their number is

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Speaker 1: no good. It is important to think in those terms,

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Speaker 1: particularly in the preseason. But before we get to the

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Speaker 1: title game matchup from the three of us, our minder

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Speaker 1: college football video game. Gonna run some simulations this year.

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Speaker 1: See if that gets on a hot streak, or you know,

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Speaker 1: You asked for it, You're going to get it, all right.

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Speaker 1: I'll go to you first, Ian l O SBC title

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Speaker 1: game and who wins it.

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Speaker 4: I'm going James Madison over Arkansas State.

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Speaker 2: Yes, two for two here, I mean, look at jam

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Speaker 2: you over ARC State. That's mine as well. Oh to

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Speaker 2: you and Troy Unders and probably on ARC State over

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Speaker 2: as well when we watch some injuries. But I'm all

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Speaker 2: arc State. We're on the same page.

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Speaker 4: I know I'm off on the coat of Carolina under

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Speaker 4: you and I will be.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't mind that either. Georgia Southern under don't.

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Speaker 4: Hate where's the thumbelt Title Game?

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Speaker 2: Should we go, We'll just go to an island when

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Speaker 2: Jay we have our JMU and Arc State features in

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Speaker 2: our pocket. Calabresee is wiping his tears with his five

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Speaker 2: to one Texas State future.

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Speaker 1: Well, I can't wait for it because I got James

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Speaker 1: Madison coming out of the East as well, and then

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Speaker 1: without a pass rush, they're not going to be touching

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Speaker 1: Jordan McLeod and an ultimate revenge game Texas State taking

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Speaker 1: it down. I'll just have to, you know, unfortunately cash

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Speaker 1: that five to one second. It could have been more,

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Speaker 1: but you know you have to actually win the championship

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Speaker 1: to cash those seconds. So going with that. Thank you

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