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Speaker 3: Welcome, Welcome home, y'all.
Speaker 1: We're here for this week's mini pod. I am your host,
Speaker 1: Tiffany Krost, along with my co host Andrew Gillham.
Speaker 3: I'll be honest with y'all.
Speaker 1: We did not plan what we wanted to talk about,
Speaker 1: but I was like, let's just say record, because I
Speaker 1: always have things I want to talk to Andrew about.
Speaker 3: Uh, they're always okay.
Speaker 1: Well, the one thing I wanted to talk to you about,
Speaker 1: to be honest, Andrew, is Sinners.
Speaker 3: But you have not seen it yet.
Speaker 2: I have Ryan Coogler's you know I haven't. I have
Speaker 2: raved in all the news about how much it's earned.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, you know it's it's top slot debut
Speaker 2: and all the hate. Help me you talk about the substance?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Can you please bring me to speed on why is
Speaker 2: this so great? Why are I don't.
Speaker 3: Want to spoil it? I think, and I don't want to.
Speaker 1: I don't want to talk about it a lot because
Speaker 1: I want us to have a deeper conversation when you
Speaker 1: once you've actually seen it, Because The symbolism and history
Speaker 1: in this film is just beautiful and it's the movie
Speaker 1: we need.
Speaker 3: Right now for this moment.
Speaker 1: But I surmise that because a lot of the coverage
Speaker 1: for the film, you guys, the opening weekend, it was,
Speaker 1: you know, this film gross sixty five million, but Warner
Speaker 1: Brothers paid X amount of dollars, so long, long way
Speaker 1: before it's profitable. And what a strange way to frame
Speaker 1: a successful movie, you know. And that wasn't the only one.
Speaker 1: There was headline after headline that kind of downplayed its success,
Speaker 1: that cautioned excitement around it.
Speaker 3: And I had not seen the film.
Speaker 1: Once I saw the film, I said, ah, okay, now
Speaker 1: I see they're like we did. I have all these
Speaker 1: black folks going to watch this film, And because a
Speaker 1: lot of the people who liked it who don't look
Speaker 1: like us, I was looking like, I wonder what you're.
Speaker 3: Getting out of the film?
Speaker 1: What did you When did you understand this film do
Speaker 1: and mean? And it was I felt the same way
Speaker 1: about get Out. I'm like, all these people who love
Speaker 1: get Out, I'm like, when of the Kardashians saying, I
Speaker 1: must they love get Out?
Speaker 2: I'm like, we missed most precisely what did.
Speaker 3: The Kardashians love about get Out?
Speaker 1: You know? And it was kind of like that with Cinner.
Speaker 1: So we'll have a deeper conversation around it. But I
Speaker 1: think I think a good conversation we could have, if
Speaker 1: you want, is what goes into black and brown creativity,
Speaker 1: because when the things that I've seen happen, like Master
Speaker 1: of None with Asiase I'm sorry, was one of the
Speaker 1: best shows. I mean, it was just so well done.
Speaker 1: That's how we came to know Lena Way. I mean,
Speaker 1: it was just a really well done show, and it's like, yes,
Speaker 1: that's what happens when executives get out the way and
Speaker 1: just let brown people create. On some of our shows
Speaker 1: that we've seen insecure, I would say, is a show
Speaker 1: like that love Craft Country?
Speaker 3: My god, love Craft oh man?
Speaker 2: And why did that go away? Okay, struggling?
Speaker 1: The second season of love Craft Country was going to
Speaker 1: be called Supremacy. I'm so mad me And so the
Speaker 1: reason why I've heard is HBO executives describe Misha Green
Speaker 1: as different cult, which of course makes me like, anytime
Speaker 1: you start describing us as difficult, I want to know
Speaker 1: what exactly the situation was.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I want to know what did they disagree with
Speaker 2: you about? What did they say no?
Speaker 1: And you know, Ryan Cougler with Centners, like he broke
Speaker 1: the bank on these people, and you know, to me,
Speaker 1: whatever he got paid, it wasn't enough. They're going to
Speaker 1: more than make their money back on this film. But
Speaker 1: it also just cast a wide net of influence over
Speaker 1: creators when we support high quality work and the level
Speaker 1: of detail that Ryan Cougler paid to this film. There's
Speaker 1: a moment where you'll see Chinese characters who are Southern
Speaker 1: Chinese folks living in Mississippi, and you know this Andrew that, yes,
Speaker 1: that is a part of Southern culture in Louisiana. There's
Speaker 1: a huge Vietnamese community, you know, after the railroads, and
Speaker 1: you know kind of like how these populations came to
Speaker 1: be and how they came to be shaped. Follow a
Speaker 1: platform next next Shark on Instagram that gives api history.
Speaker 3: So I don't know. I say all that to say,
Speaker 3: we're in a very unique moment in history where we
Speaker 3: are side eyeing.
Speaker 1: Other communities, you know, where it's like, I don't know,
Speaker 1: you might have voted for this man, and I can't
Speaker 1: really rock with you, like I gotta go insular and
Speaker 1: only deal with black people, only talk to black people,
Speaker 1: And I certainly feel the most comfort there. But I
Speaker 1: just I know people within the ap PI community who
Speaker 1: who fight against anti black sentiment, who fight against racism,
Speaker 1: who are allies, like I have given them the title
Speaker 1: of ally. They've earned it and I've given it to them.
Speaker 1: I know people in the Latino community who also are
Speaker 1: black folks. Y'all, there are there's Latino, there are black people,
Speaker 1: and then there are black Latinos. There's a venn diagram
Speaker 1: Latino own precisely in Dominica, in Port and everywhere there
Speaker 1: are black you know, the the slave ships stopped everywhere
Speaker 1: and some people, you know, you have Afro Colombian and who.
Speaker 2: Was on that ship, by the way, looked different in
Speaker 2: different places, and some places they were Asians who were
Speaker 2: on uh those slave ships or under indentured servitude and
Speaker 2: still treated and and employed on the slave labor. You
Speaker 2: talked about, you know, the railroad and the building of that,
Speaker 2: the connecting of the East and the West, and how
Speaker 2: it is that you know, Asians occupied so much of
Speaker 2: these rare places that you would find, you know, these
Speaker 2: buckets of community on the creative piece, because I don't
Speaker 2: think of myself as a creative and am certainly not
Speaker 2: implied to to to to even think so. But I
Speaker 2: I have been watching or watched rather and I don't
Speaker 2: know which app it's on, but it interviewed all of
Speaker 2: these black actors, first the men and then the women.
Speaker 2: Oh god, if y'all have it, which which platform is that?
Speaker 2: On that apple?
Speaker 3: We'll give us some money because we're given y'all whole
Speaker 3: free commercial.
Speaker 2: I just I just got to say, I was so
Speaker 2: moved watch it and drawing the tears and other forms
Speaker 2: of emotions as I listened to these a list black actors'
Speaker 2: names that we would all know, you know, you know,
Speaker 2: off the dome, and how they reflect on their experience
Speaker 2: in an industry that wholly didn't value. And I say
Speaker 2: didn't as if it's past tense. I think it's it's
Speaker 2: still true, don't value, but certainly you know, in the
Speaker 2: moments that they're reflecting on, it's clear didn't value. I
Speaker 2: mean Angela Bassett and that Tina Turner biopic. I'm still
Speaker 2: mad when I was reminded, you know, of the slight
Speaker 2: of hand that that that she was handed at that
Speaker 2: time for acknowledgment of the hard work that that's required
Speaker 2: that our folks do. But I think, Tiff, in so
Speaker 2: many ways, our creatives make it look so seamless, almost
Speaker 2: so effortless, like you underappreciate the amount of energy, effort, concentration,
Speaker 2: discipline that they had to exhibit to get that job done.
Speaker 2: And study it's so underappreciated.
Speaker 1: Like Viola Davis is a Juilliard graduate, and she talks
Speaker 1: about studying at Juilliard and how, you know, having to
Speaker 1: learn different dialects, you know, having to learn the British dialects,
Speaker 1: having to learn Southern dialects, and it's like, well, why
Speaker 1: didn't white people have to learn different African dialects? You know,
Speaker 1: like why did we center whiteness in our craft? And
Speaker 1: it's so true the way that that's centered in everything.
Speaker 1: We were talking a bit this week on the podcast
Speaker 1: about you know, cable news executives, you know, and and
Speaker 1: still what is centered is white perspective, white life. You know,
Speaker 1: even when you talk about evangelical so white is silent.
Speaker 1: You know, you assume evangelicals are with Trump because you're
Speaker 1: only thinking about the Billy Graham wing of evangelical in film,
Speaker 1: you're only thinking about white perspective. You know that famous clip,
Speaker 1: infamous clip of Tony Morrison being interviewed and the woman saying,
Speaker 1: but you don't sent her white people in your books,
Speaker 1: as if that is the starting point, you know, like
Speaker 1: you're can we I have?
Speaker 2: And also when they in politics, before you leave those
Speaker 2: examples and politics, when we say the real America, get
Speaker 2: out and talk to real Americans and what people commentators
Speaker 2: and analysts mean when they say the real America, what
Speaker 2: black people are working blue collar jobs and are disaffected
Speaker 2: in all parts of this land. Yet you got to
Speaker 2: go to the heartland quote to meet real Americans. Yeah,
Speaker 2: that they don't exist. Real Americans don't exist in cities.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, real Americans. That I'm so offended by that
Speaker 1: entire notion. But that is like the thought process that
Speaker 1: that's the defining thought process for so many people. But
Speaker 1: I have a request one. I want you to see
Speaker 1: Sinners so we can do a whole mini pie. But
Speaker 1: Centers has me so inspired. I would like us to
Speaker 1: rewatch Lovecraft Country.
Speaker 2: To rewatch I'm down there and watch it. I thought
Speaker 2: it was I thought it was powerful, and I can't
Speaker 2: I couldn't believe that the viewership if that were it
Speaker 2: was so was so lackluster that it wouldn't It was
Speaker 2: so beautifully done the acting girls.
Speaker 1: But there's a woman who also plays in Centers and
Speaker 1: I don't know how to say her name, but she
Speaker 1: is so strikingly beautiful. She's actually British and I don't
Speaker 1: know where her country of origin is from, but she
Speaker 1: was born in the UK, and I'm gonna look it
Speaker 1: up because I want to give her her flowers.
Speaker 2: I know her name, every everything I've seen her amazing.
Speaker 2: If there were a talent who is who was underrated,
Speaker 2: it would be her amazing.
Speaker 3: And she loves you. Remember we ran into her at
Speaker 3: tammeron Hall Show.
Speaker 2: I know I'm a fan, but I'm a sincere fan
Speaker 2: of her craft, of her Workie what you know, Jerny
Speaker 2: Smilett another one who I.
Speaker 1: Thought I love Craft Country and her sister is played
Speaker 1: by woone Me Mosaku. I forgive me if that's not
Speaker 1: how you say her name, but woon me Osaku, who
Speaker 1: got the Chicago accent very like, she did it very well.
Speaker 1: Uh in Center, she got that Mississippi Southern actvert. I mean,
Speaker 1: she's just an amazing actions but strikingly beautiful. I just
Speaker 1: can't stop looking at this woman. I think she's I
Speaker 1: just I think we're gonna see more of her. But
Speaker 1: I would like us, Yeah, I would like us to
Speaker 1: rewise The love Craft Country because it was one of
Speaker 1: the most beautiful pieces of television I've ever seen, and
Speaker 1: it really tapped into my imagination.
Speaker 3: Is shaped how I saw.
Speaker 1: Things the Name Yourself episode that Sensor and I was
Speaker 1: new Ellis. I don't want to give it away if
Speaker 1: you all haven't watched its years old, though, I feel
Speaker 1: like we should be able to talk about spoilers, but
Speaker 1: I would like you all to watch.
Speaker 2: It with Yeah, dig in, dig in.
Speaker 3: So it is so good, Jonathan Major.
Speaker 2: It's mind shifting. Yeah, that's what creatives should do. Like
Speaker 2: we always talk about the imagination and how we reach
Speaker 2: a whole nother level of like the imaginative and the reimagining.
Speaker 2: They did that for us in reset a context and
Speaker 2: a set of experiences historically based in some cases otherwise
Speaker 2: you know, in some instances derivatives of It's powerful. And
Speaker 2: I think that they're the ones who put peel the
Speaker 2: scales off of our eyes and allow us to see
Speaker 2: things more beautifully if you you know, to imagine things
Speaker 2: more beautifully. And I thank them for that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's true.
Speaker 1: Just we are we offer our gratitude for what they
Speaker 1: do on the screen, what they bring to their craft
Speaker 1: a seriousness. When you see BTS footage of Ryan Coogler
Speaker 1: on all of his films, from Fruit Station Uh to
Speaker 1: Creed to Black Panther to Sinners, he is involved at
Speaker 1: the molecular level, you know, like he is that his
Speaker 1: hands are stop everything he is, from the cinematography to
Speaker 1: the type of film they shoot on to the actors
Speaker 1: working closely with the actors and the storyboard, and he
Speaker 1: puts such thought into it. And I think anytime that
Speaker 1: you're devoting that level of detail to your craft, that
Speaker 1: we owe you our attention. You know, I'm not at
Speaker 1: the theater like this on my phone. I'm not you know,
Speaker 1: chopping onions in the background. At home, I sit and
Speaker 1: honor the work of the folks who poured their heart
Speaker 1: into it, and so I don't like going.
Speaker 3: To the theater.
Speaker 2: Stand Barry Jenkins to be similar, you know, a Miami Boy,
Speaker 2: but and and and then you know the Lion King
Speaker 2: and and even in illustrations and playful ways, still incorporating
Speaker 2: the richness of us. Like if you get the subtext,
Speaker 2: you know, they don't make it hard for you to
Speaker 2: be able to access it. But if you if you're
Speaker 2: willing to get the subtext, it just it makes your
Speaker 2: spine stiffen a little bit, you know, when you when
Speaker 2: you are consuming that kind of thing, it's like, all right,
Speaker 2: I see I hear myself. I see myself. This is
Speaker 2: not some caricature of who I am, but rather a
Speaker 2: more true reflection. It's empowering, especially when you get to
Speaker 2: see it on you know, on a big screen.
Speaker 1: You know you have an appreciation for film the way
Speaker 1: I do, because we will at random act out an
Speaker 1: entire scene and you know totally, you know all the words,
Speaker 1: the intonation in everything. We both are very we are
Speaker 1: into content. I just thought about that as we're talking
Speaker 1: about this. Yeah, we did a whole Andrew and I
Speaker 1: were walking in Midtown, New York and acted out the
Speaker 1: entire scene of dream Girls.
Speaker 2: I don't I was like, I'm trying to think what
Speaker 2: which was it was?
Speaker 1: I only got it's so ridiculous. I don't even remember,
Speaker 1: but it was so ridiculous. But that's not what We've
Speaker 1: done several movies together where we just will randomly act
Speaker 1: out a scene.
Speaker 2: A boomerang used to be my I don't think I
Speaker 2: had to give it up for a while. I was like,
Speaker 2: you know, you can't be earthy kid always my God,
Speaker 2: yeah done.
Speaker 3: Lady Luise, Lady Ylluise.
Speaker 2: Lady Yllouise. Those are some characters, man, classics.
Speaker 1: Those are our classes. Oh God, like coming to America,
Speaker 1: those are our classes.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I would tell you boomerang though, really, I mean,
Speaker 2: it just shifted my mind around possibility. I had not
Speaker 2: seen a film with the whole big a corporate building
Speaker 2: in New York looking, you know, tall skyscrapers, all black, wore,
Speaker 2: black folks owned all the floors. Then you know that
Speaker 2: you're in the secure you know, from security, you know,
Speaker 2: all the way to the executive. It was.
Speaker 3: Working in the millroom.
Speaker 2: I'm telling you, Murphy.
Speaker 1: For that to really opening, because we were young, you know,
Speaker 1: we weren't entering our career. We were in like middle
Speaker 1: school and high school at that time. So to see
Speaker 1: something like that as a possibility, you know, and then
Speaker 1: to turn that possibility into a probability to enter institutions
Speaker 1: of higher ed to explore that, you know, like, what
Speaker 1: an amazing.
Speaker 2: That's to say nothing about the soft porn, you know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, okay, I was Lauren r Et suggesting, and
Speaker 1: I like this. This is our call to the listeners
Speaker 1: and viewers. What is a classic movie or TV show
Speaker 1: that transformed you? You know that you saw it and
Speaker 1: it was like wow, this really tapped into something for you.
Speaker 1: And give us the name of the TV show or
Speaker 1: the movie and what it was about that. You can
Speaker 1: drop it in the comments. You can send in a
Speaker 1: video and yeah, we can pick this because I'm sure
Speaker 1: Angela has a film too, so we can pick this
Speaker 1: conversation up with her.
Speaker 3: But yeah, I want.
Speaker 2: What I'm shot.
Speaker 1: I mean, I have others. But just in recent history,
Speaker 1: the Name Yourself episode in Lovecraft where this woman essentially
Speaker 1: had lived a thousand lives and had traveled through a
Speaker 1: thousand years and acquire this knowledge and learn the ways
Speaker 1: to harness energy and to self define in a way
Speaker 1: that takes you to such another level. Astronauts describe it
Speaker 1: as the overview effect that once you transcend out of
Speaker 1: this Earth and you look down at this planet and
Speaker 1: you see all that you know, there are billions of
Speaker 1: galaxies all around us, And the overview effect makes you
Speaker 1: consider that, man, just last week, I was this little,
Speaker 1: tiny person worrying about paying taxes and my mortgage. But
Speaker 1: then when you broadcast out in the macro on a
Speaker 1: whole of the lefl outside the universe, and you realize,
Speaker 1: I am but a tiny grain of sand in the
Speaker 1: hour glass of time. A billion people existed before me,
Speaker 1: a billion people will exist after me. What is it
Speaker 1: that I am doing here? What is it I'm meant
Speaker 1: to be doing here? How do I self define? How
Speaker 1: do I harness this energy that will likely live on forever?
Speaker 1: Will I go on to live a thousand more lives?
Speaker 1: So that was the overview, but also in the granular,
Speaker 1: the Mother Earth's incarnateness of black women. You know that
Speaker 1: we are warriors, healers, shine and have always had such
Speaker 1: a rebirthed black men. We love black men. There are counterparts,
Speaker 1: you know, we are on equal footing, but we are
Speaker 1: the pathway to life. And what that meant for her
Speaker 1: and the one thing that could bring her back to
Speaker 1: this tiny little planet Earth was her child, the love
Speaker 1: for her Chiuse. She had to go back for her daughter,
Speaker 1: but she came back.
Speaker 3: With all this knowledge.
Speaker 1: And I'm telling you, Andrew, you know you and I
Speaker 1: have had conversations about this. Me and Natasha had that
Speaker 1: that conversation. It wasn't a movie, but it changed my
Speaker 1: life about tapping into your imagination. I won't get into
Speaker 1: it because I told a story so many times on
Speaker 1: the podcast, But Andrew and Latasha had the most beautiful
Speaker 1: exchange about what it means for black people to tap
Speaker 1: into our imaginations. So that episode of love Craft Country
Speaker 1: made me tap into my own and just it's something
Speaker 1: I'm still working through and how to harness my own energy.
Speaker 1: Like I'm over here, Like I don't have the energy
Speaker 1: or time to get in the back and forth earth
Speaker 1: on a cable news platform that seems so.
Speaker 3: Small for me.
Speaker 1: I don't have the energy or time to focus on.
Speaker 1: Every insult doesn't deserve my response, Every short tone doesn't
Speaker 1: deserve my attention. Every negative person, every negative comment, every
Speaker 1: little strife, if somebody got a beef with me, that
Speaker 1: doesn't deserve my energy. How am I harnessing my energy
Speaker 1: to create something almost metaphysical? Love you always love Craft,
Speaker 1: You'll get what.
Speaker 3: I'm talking about.
Speaker 2: I'm one another. Yeah, mine's so simple Brange was good.
Speaker 3: That was good.
Speaker 2: No simple boomerang wouldn't would not be the one I
Speaker 2: would reflect it. It would be definitely a different world.
Speaker 2: And that's simply because as it coming from a family
Speaker 2: that didn't have a tradition of going to college in
Speaker 2: my media household, it gave me the goal to go
Speaker 2: to college, to go to Healman, very specifically and all
Speaker 2: the way through believe even that Hillman was a real
Speaker 2: place up until I started sending my SAT scores out
Speaker 2: and I'm looking for the codes and Hillman wasn't one
Speaker 2: of the codes, and it tripped me up. And that
Speaker 2: was the only moment eleventh grade was when I realized
Speaker 2: it was fake. Yeah, that it was. It was. It
Speaker 2: was the amalgamation of all of our HBCUs that wasn't
Speaker 2: one place, but that this is a life that can
Speaker 2: be experienced at many places, but exclusively at an HBCU. Yes,
Speaker 2: And that's what set my site there.
Speaker 1: It was no other option for me, like I had
Speaker 1: to go to HBCU only because of a different world.
Speaker 2: I said, I had to go to hill Man. Yes,
Speaker 2: And then I got my heart broken. Well fam you
Speaker 2: fam oh no no, no, no, no, Ultimately, I went
Speaker 2: to my hill.
Speaker 3: You went to MAN. We lived in Wakanda. You went
Speaker 3: to HBC.
Speaker 1: You lived in Wakanda. You had your Wakanda experience at FAM.
Speaker 1: You I had my experience at THAU. And I think
Speaker 1: the other thing about a different world also is what
Speaker 1: it meant to be among community, you know, like what
Speaker 1: it meant to be with us, And to know that
Speaker 1: there was every different type of black person.
Speaker 3: On the planet.
Speaker 1: You know, there were the super religious people, there were
Speaker 1: like the skateboarders. There were like the West Coast, like
Speaker 1: gnarly unrelatable, both the Black American princess. So I'm like,
Speaker 1: you got a car, you know, you down here in
Speaker 1: a dad line, your dad owns like dealerships, support.
Speaker 2: And Chanel's and all this. You know, Yes, it's like what.
Speaker 3: It shaped helped shape my worldview here. So yeah, but
Speaker 3: you know, someone.
Speaker 2: Said, people who don't understand what it means to be
Speaker 2: reflected in that way. I mean, it's just it's such
Speaker 2: an undervalue statement when I hear people say, you know,
Speaker 2: to see yourself reflected, because I often wonder are the
Speaker 2: other people who are in earshot of hearing you say this?
Speaker 2: Really grasping because if you're the majority and you have
Speaker 2: always been the image that's reflected, I kind of feel
Speaker 2: like the only time you know that this is a privilege,
Speaker 2: and maybe you don't even give it its credit, is
Speaker 2: maybe when you're in a room as a white person
Speaker 2: you look around and you realize you're the only way
Speaker 2: you don't realize it, you know it from the moment
Speaker 2: you enter it. And then I often used to say
Speaker 2: to some of my colleagues, like, now you get a semblance,
Speaker 2: maybe just a little linkling of what I get to
Speaker 2: experience literally going every day in and out of the
Speaker 2: day as a mayor or a commissioner or whatever, or
Speaker 2: in this room, at these seats and at these tables
Speaker 2: of power and decision and influence, and to be there
Speaker 2: and to never see yourself walk through the damn door,
Speaker 2: never a presenter, never the option that is on the
Speaker 2: menu of options of what we could decide or choose.
Speaker 2: That only until then do you get to really grasp
Speaker 2: the significance of this statement what it means to see
Speaker 2: yourself reflected.
Speaker 1: That's so true, Andrew, that's so true. Okay, Well you
Speaker 1: got our thoughts.
Speaker 3: I just want to add one.
Speaker 1: We want to hear you, but something that we can
Speaker 1: when we when we hear you all thought something we
Speaker 1: may want to revisit. Someone said on they made a
Speaker 1: comment on my post that Dwayne and Whitley's relationship was toxic, and.
Speaker 3: I have since visited she was.
Speaker 1: Remember she kissed Ron like she went out with your
Speaker 1: your best friend and kissed them in your face.
Speaker 2: Like, hey, you got her back at the wedding altar?
Speaker 2: You want her back, please please?
Speaker 3: Like they I mean, but that was when you as
Speaker 3: a grown woman. I'm looking at that like nomn. She
Speaker 3: really was. She was interesting.
Speaker 2: She was analyzed it that way. Yes, so this is
Speaker 2: why we want and need the feedback from from y'all
Speaker 2: our listeners, because it may put a whole new spin
Speaker 2: on the thing that.
Speaker 3: We thought we knew totally totally all right, Well, thank you.
Speaker 3: I knew we would come up.
Speaker 2: I wasn't really sure that I wanted to talk about creators,
Speaker 2: but I really did see thank you.
Speaker 3: I like when we just hit record, we always have
Speaker 3: stuff to talk about.
Speaker 2: It's also possible that I'm willing and really able to
Speaker 2: talk about anything, just like you are. What do you
Speaker 2: want to do today?
Speaker 1: Yes, we flow, we flow, We always have stuff. Whether
Speaker 1: the cameras are rolling or not, we always have stuff
Speaker 1: to talk about. Sometimes I wish there were this cameras
Speaker 1: rolling with us and they hit record, because some of
Speaker 1: our best conversations as we're having food gasms, when we've
Speaker 1: like found a great restaurant and we're or way.
Speaker 2: We take a good walk.
Speaker 3: Yes, well, I love my good.
Speaker 2: Walks are always good.
Speaker 1: I love my walk yep. And on that note, everybody
Speaker 1: know about those walks because when you see the cousins
Speaker 1: to go for a walk, if you win that walk,
Speaker 1: you better get to get in when that walk happens,
Speaker 1: so you're gonna miss the walk anyway. Thank you guys,
Speaker 1: welcome home, Thanks for tuning in uh and we'll see
Speaker 1: you next time on the Mini Pod when Angelo's back.
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