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Speaker 1: sham your house, Rob Shooter. It is Wednesday morning. Now,

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Speaker 1: normally you're very lucky every Wednesday. Our dear friend Donnie

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Speaker 1: I love this. Since Donnie moved to La. His relationship

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Speaker 1: is that we're doing the show together today. It's just

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Speaker 1: time is it, my friends? It is tea time. Did

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Speaker 1: A sad story at the top of the show. The

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Speaker 1: to report that our beloved Ozzie Osborne passed away this morning.

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Speaker 1: The statement was signed by his wife Sharon, and his

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Speaker 1: whilst with his family, he was with his family and

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Speaker 1: create reality TV. Very few stars have as bigger impact

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Speaker 1: more news. We touched on this yesterday, but Malcolm Jamal Warner,

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Speaker 1: moving along, Megan and Harry are in trouble again as

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Speaker 1: that his follow up album, American Heart, has flopped. Heart

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Speaker 1: But now the follow up is the really important thing.

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