1 00:00:07,280 --> 00:00:09,479 Speaker 1: Hello, and welcome to Savor Protection of iHeart Radio and 2 00:00:09,520 --> 00:00:12,360 Speaker 1: Stuff Media. I'm Any and I'm Lauren Vogelbaum, and today 3 00:00:12,400 --> 00:00:18,160 Speaker 1: we're talking about rose. Yes, Rose, because it is it's 4 00:00:18,200 --> 00:00:21,599 Speaker 1: prime rose time. It is, it's it's the summer is 5 00:00:21,680 --> 00:00:25,880 Speaker 1: heating up. Yes, the weather in fact is warmer depending 6 00:00:25,920 --> 00:00:29,920 Speaker 1: on where you are. Yes, that's oh goodness, Yeah, that's 7 00:00:30,280 --> 00:00:33,239 Speaker 1: we can't forget. Oh that means that Christmas rose's are 8 00:00:33,280 --> 00:00:35,360 Speaker 1: totally a thing in some parts of the world. That's delightful. 9 00:00:35,720 --> 00:00:38,880 Speaker 1: I would enjoy a Christmas rose. Something else I would 10 00:00:38,960 --> 00:00:41,280 Speaker 1: enjoy is to make a lot of puns, which I 11 00:00:41,280 --> 00:00:43,320 Speaker 1: wrote down in here. Oh you did, but I'm not 12 00:00:43,360 --> 00:00:46,400 Speaker 1: going to make them because they might be the title choice. Okay, 13 00:00:46,600 --> 00:00:49,960 Speaker 1: so you're just gonna sorry, listeners, You're just gonna have 14 00:00:50,040 --> 00:00:52,720 Speaker 1: to fill in the blank for yourself. There. You know 15 00:00:52,880 --> 00:00:55,160 Speaker 1: that Annie is sitting on a bunch of puns. Yes, 16 00:00:55,760 --> 00:01:00,400 Speaker 1: a mountains um. But yes, speaking of rose time. Uh, 17 00:01:00,600 --> 00:01:03,600 Speaker 1: National Rose Day here in the US is June. Yes, 18 00:01:03,600 --> 00:01:07,000 Speaker 1: it is the second Saturday of every June. So it's 19 00:01:07,000 --> 00:01:10,280 Speaker 1: fast approaching as we record this. And rose wine, by 20 00:01:10,280 --> 00:01:12,760 Speaker 1: the way, just in case that wasn't Yeah, that's true 21 00:01:12,800 --> 00:01:15,880 Speaker 1: clear anyway. UM, I will say that I am an 22 00:01:15,880 --> 00:01:20,920 Speaker 1: absolute sucker for like really brute sparkling Rose. It's one 23 00:01:20,920 --> 00:01:23,360 Speaker 1: of my favorite ways to feel like I'm treating myself for, 24 00:01:23,480 --> 00:01:26,160 Speaker 1: you know, whoever I'm shopping for for something nice, like 25 00:01:26,200 --> 00:01:31,080 Speaker 1: you know, four a bottle. Um. And I'm also a 26 00:01:31,080 --> 00:01:34,120 Speaker 1: sucker for Frose's. But that is a different vibe, es 27 00:01:34,400 --> 00:01:37,040 Speaker 1: very different vibe, and we'll be touching on that. Um. 28 00:01:37,040 --> 00:01:40,920 Speaker 1: I'm pretty new to Rose, but I also enjoy a brute. 29 00:01:42,640 --> 00:01:53,040 Speaker 1: But this brings us to our question. Yes, Rose, what 30 00:01:53,320 --> 00:01:57,160 Speaker 1: is it? Well? Rose is a type of wine that's 31 00:01:57,280 --> 00:02:01,240 Speaker 1: pink or you know, sort of rosie, sort of sort of. Um. 32 00:02:01,480 --> 00:02:03,000 Speaker 1: It can be made a number of ways, but the 33 00:02:03,000 --> 00:02:07,520 Speaker 1: traditional method is to um, okay, quick wine making one 34 00:02:07,520 --> 00:02:10,919 Speaker 1: O one. You grow some grapes. Yeah, you harvest those grapes, 35 00:02:11,000 --> 00:02:12,959 Speaker 1: squish them to extract their juice. I'm using all the 36 00:02:12,960 --> 00:02:15,120 Speaker 1: technical terms here. Um, depending on what kind of wine 37 00:02:15,160 --> 00:02:18,400 Speaker 1: you're making, you might separate the juice from the skins immediately, 38 00:02:18,480 --> 00:02:21,080 Speaker 1: because the longer you let the juice rest on the skins, 39 00:02:21,320 --> 00:02:23,639 Speaker 1: that the more color and flavor that the juice will 40 00:02:24,040 --> 00:02:27,560 Speaker 1: absorb from those skins and seeds and other stuff. But sure. 41 00:02:28,160 --> 00:02:31,320 Speaker 1: This is also known as maceration, letting the juice and 42 00:02:31,320 --> 00:02:34,440 Speaker 1: the stuff sit together. So if you're, say, making a 43 00:02:34,440 --> 00:02:37,000 Speaker 1: white wine from grapes that have pale flesh and dark 44 00:02:37,040 --> 00:02:38,919 Speaker 1: red skins, you want to get those skins out of 45 00:02:38,960 --> 00:02:42,880 Speaker 1: there immediately. With a rose, you most likely let the 46 00:02:42,960 --> 00:02:45,520 Speaker 1: juice mass rate awhile like two to forty eight hours, 47 00:02:45,560 --> 00:02:47,080 Speaker 1: but not as long as you would do for a 48 00:02:47,080 --> 00:02:50,040 Speaker 1: wine that you want to be truly truly, read right 49 00:02:51,400 --> 00:02:55,040 Speaker 1: very Traditionally, rose wine grapes are harvested on the early 50 00:02:55,120 --> 00:02:57,800 Speaker 1: side of ripeness, before too much sugar has developed in 51 00:02:57,800 --> 00:03:01,000 Speaker 1: the grapes, and they're collected at night when temperatures are cooler, 52 00:03:01,080 --> 00:03:03,480 Speaker 1: so that the human in charge of fermenting the wine 53 00:03:03,840 --> 00:03:07,520 Speaker 1: has more precise control over that fermentation, which requires the 54 00:03:07,520 --> 00:03:09,560 Speaker 1: application of heat. But for rose's like, you don't want 55 00:03:09,560 --> 00:03:13,080 Speaker 1: to use too much heat. Yeah, you can also just 56 00:03:13,120 --> 00:03:16,080 Speaker 1: blend red and white grape juices, or even red and 57 00:03:16,080 --> 00:03:18,640 Speaker 1: white wines that have already been through the fermentation process, 58 00:03:18,760 --> 00:03:21,720 Speaker 1: But these methods will give you a different product, which 59 00:03:21,800 --> 00:03:26,799 Speaker 1: is sometimes looked down upon looks down upon by professional 60 00:03:26,840 --> 00:03:30,679 Speaker 1: wine makers. No, professional wine makers never looked down upon 61 00:03:30,720 --> 00:03:35,440 Speaker 1: anyone scandal. They have zero opinions about their product and 62 00:03:35,560 --> 00:03:44,360 Speaker 1: the judgment. No fair, fair judgment. I'm judgmental too. I 63 00:03:44,360 --> 00:03:46,480 Speaker 1: don't know if you guys have had every noticed that. 64 00:03:46,920 --> 00:03:51,160 Speaker 1: More so, I don't think that's true. Tell me about 65 00:03:51,200 --> 00:03:54,560 Speaker 1: your bagel opinions again, No, no, no, no different episodes 66 00:03:54,800 --> 00:03:58,280 Speaker 1: and see our bagel episode for that. Um. And speaking 67 00:03:58,320 --> 00:04:02,400 Speaker 1: of differing opinions, like red and white wines, Rose's can 68 00:04:02,800 --> 00:04:07,080 Speaker 1: have differing flavors anywhere from dry to sweet, from fresh 69 00:04:07,200 --> 00:04:10,320 Speaker 1: or puckery to mellow or rich, and you know, different 70 00:04:10,360 --> 00:04:12,960 Speaker 1: different wines for for for different palettes, but there are 71 00:04:13,040 --> 00:04:18,000 Speaker 1: some common characteristics because well, because mass rating grape juice 72 00:04:18,000 --> 00:04:20,719 Speaker 1: for different periods of time will give you different compounds 73 00:04:20,760 --> 00:04:23,719 Speaker 1: in the juice, which will develop into more different compounds 74 00:04:23,720 --> 00:04:26,039 Speaker 1: as you ferment the wine, and then even more other 75 00:04:26,120 --> 00:04:30,680 Speaker 1: different ones depending on aging process. Rose's tend though to 76 00:04:30,760 --> 00:04:36,160 Speaker 1: be to be bright, a little fruity and crisp. Back 77 00:04:36,240 --> 00:04:40,400 Speaker 1: in the m. I n r A. That's a French institute, 78 00:04:40,440 --> 00:04:45,479 Speaker 1: the Institute Nacional de la Research at Gronomiq. Yeah, sort 79 00:04:45,520 --> 00:04:48,919 Speaker 1: of kind of cool. Uh, It's an agricultural research institute 80 00:04:48,920 --> 00:04:52,640 Speaker 1: in France UM, along with the Centered the Rose and 81 00:04:52,960 --> 00:04:56,960 Speaker 1: the French Vine and Wine Institute UM. Oh goodness, and 82 00:04:57,000 --> 00:04:59,200 Speaker 1: there's more words after that. Anyway, a bunch of groups 83 00:04:59,320 --> 00:05:02,400 Speaker 1: published there was alts of their survey of two nine 84 00:05:02,839 --> 00:05:05,840 Speaker 1: rose wines from twenty one different countries. Their purpose here 85 00:05:05,880 --> 00:05:08,720 Speaker 1: was to analyze the phenolic composition of these wines, of 86 00:05:08,760 --> 00:05:12,000 Speaker 1: phenolic compounds being a whole huge group of stuff in 87 00:05:12,080 --> 00:05:15,480 Speaker 1: plants that are responsible for many of plants colors and flavors. 88 00:05:15,920 --> 00:05:18,040 Speaker 1: They're trying to make sense of how different grapes and 89 00:05:18,080 --> 00:05:21,760 Speaker 1: different production methods lead to different flavors and colors in 90 00:05:21,800 --> 00:05:25,320 Speaker 1: the finished wine. And it's a lot of stuff, a 91 00:05:25,400 --> 00:05:29,000 Speaker 1: lot of stuff, they say it is. And furthermore, research 92 00:05:29,040 --> 00:05:32,120 Speaker 1: has shown that the pink color of rose is the 93 00:05:32,160 --> 00:05:36,159 Speaker 1: most important factor two consumers of rose, which is just 94 00:05:36,240 --> 00:05:39,600 Speaker 1: wild to me. Uh. A researcher studying all of this 95 00:05:39,640 --> 00:05:42,320 Speaker 1: out of Washington State University UM said that getting the 96 00:05:42,360 --> 00:05:46,080 Speaker 1: perfect color and flavor, even if that does come in second, 97 00:05:46,640 --> 00:05:50,560 Speaker 1: is hard because the color fades during fermentation and then 98 00:05:50,680 --> 00:05:53,280 Speaker 1: darkens in the bottle. He said that you might lose 99 00:05:54,440 --> 00:05:56,320 Speaker 1: the initial color that you started out with when you 100 00:05:56,400 --> 00:05:59,800 Speaker 1: first pressed the grapes. That doesn't surprise me the importance 101 00:05:59,839 --> 00:06:01,640 Speaker 1: of the color. My ex boyfriend once bought a wine 102 00:06:01,680 --> 00:06:06,920 Speaker 1: just because it was blue. You know, was it flavored 103 00:06:06,960 --> 00:06:10,520 Speaker 1: like blue? It kind of was. It was sweet. It 104 00:06:10,640 --> 00:06:14,920 Speaker 1: was too sweet, okay, that was my judgment. Very bad 105 00:06:14,920 --> 00:06:20,760 Speaker 1: at describing flavors. But too sweet, okay, perhaps avoid blue wine. 106 00:06:21,120 --> 00:06:22,720 Speaker 1: Maybe it was just that one. It was like a 107 00:06:22,800 --> 00:06:26,360 Speaker 1: romulan blue or like it was okay, And he's a 108 00:06:26,400 --> 00:06:28,960 Speaker 1: big he's a big star trek, so it was all 109 00:06:29,080 --> 00:06:32,200 Speaker 1: well coming together. There was also clean on wine. And 110 00:06:32,279 --> 00:06:33,960 Speaker 1: this was not a star Trek party. This was just 111 00:06:34,000 --> 00:06:38,360 Speaker 1: all there is to the party's. I attend accidental themes, Yeah, 112 00:06:38,560 --> 00:06:42,440 Speaker 1: I like them. France, which does produce the most rose 113 00:06:42,600 --> 00:06:47,560 Speaker 1: worldwide the global supply, has a color chart. They call 114 00:06:47,640 --> 00:06:52,760 Speaker 1: it a nuancier for rose's from the primary production reason Provence, 115 00:06:53,080 --> 00:06:56,920 Speaker 1: and these colors range from the palest ballet slipper pink 116 00:06:57,000 --> 00:07:01,120 Speaker 1: to coral to like a good ruby, and the Council 117 00:07:01,160 --> 00:07:05,200 Speaker 1: of Wines of Provence has tracked consumer preference by shade 118 00:07:05,200 --> 00:07:08,960 Speaker 1: of color. Oh my goodness. They say that it ranges 119 00:07:09,040 --> 00:07:15,560 Speaker 1: from most popular to least popular. Peach, melan, mango, Pamello, 120 00:07:15,840 --> 00:07:21,200 Speaker 1: sort of like pink grapefruit, Mandarin and red current. Oh by, 121 00:07:21,760 --> 00:07:24,080 Speaker 1: I love it. It's silly, but I love it. As 122 00:07:24,360 --> 00:07:28,440 Speaker 1: Council of Wines. Oh yeah, yes, I think there's more 123 00:07:28,480 --> 00:07:34,760 Speaker 1: on them later. Okay, um nutrition drink responsibly. Yep, there 124 00:07:34,800 --> 00:07:38,560 Speaker 1: you go. Numbers. The biggest producer by volume is France, 125 00:07:38,560 --> 00:07:43,080 Speaker 1: followed by Spain, Rosato, Italy Rosato, and then the United States. 126 00:07:43,200 --> 00:07:47,120 Speaker 1: It is made all over the Argentina, Chile, South Africa, Russia, Germany, 127 00:07:47,440 --> 00:07:51,880 Speaker 1: places that make wine. Basically, yeah, France actually drinks more 128 00:07:51,880 --> 00:07:54,960 Speaker 1: than it makes. They are a net importer, as is Germany, 129 00:07:55,520 --> 00:07:59,240 Speaker 1: and as around the world. Rose's accounted for some nine 130 00:07:59,600 --> 00:08:02,720 Speaker 1: of all the wine produced. And how much wine is that? 131 00:08:03,200 --> 00:08:08,520 Speaker 1: You ask? Perhaps twenty four point one million hacked a 132 00:08:08,600 --> 00:08:14,080 Speaker 1: leaders of roose hecked a leader being one, So a 133 00:08:14,160 --> 00:08:18,080 Speaker 1: lot um two point four billion leaders is a lot. 134 00:08:18,480 --> 00:08:20,840 Speaker 1: I agree. I think I did the math um it 135 00:08:20,920 --> 00:08:24,160 Speaker 1: was and it came out to six thirty four million gallons. 136 00:08:24,200 --> 00:08:27,080 Speaker 1: Not that we usually consume wine in gallons, but just 137 00:08:27,160 --> 00:08:30,840 Speaker 1: to give you a rough idea, speak for yourself. Laura's 138 00:08:31,160 --> 00:08:36,640 Speaker 1: Jess kidd chess kidding Jock responsibly drink responsibly. In the 139 00:08:36,720 --> 00:08:40,120 Speaker 1: US imported four million cases of provincial rose, twenty five 140 00:08:40,160 --> 00:08:42,680 Speaker 1: times more than a decade earlier in two thousand three. 141 00:08:43,040 --> 00:08:45,920 Speaker 1: That year, Americans drink two hundred and seventy nine point 142 00:08:45,960 --> 00:08:49,640 Speaker 1: four million leaders. Some numbers indicate rose is one of 143 00:08:49,640 --> 00:08:52,040 Speaker 1: the fastest growing markets for two years in a row, 144 00:08:52,120 --> 00:08:56,200 Speaker 1: from seventeen and also from seventeen, sales went up fifty 145 00:08:56,360 --> 00:09:01,080 Speaker 1: three percent in the US two fifty eight million dollars. 146 00:09:02,120 --> 00:09:07,480 Speaker 1: The Washington Post says we are at peak pink, peak pink. 147 00:09:07,600 --> 00:09:11,600 Speaker 1: That is hard to say. Pek pink stuff and smell 148 00:09:11,640 --> 00:09:16,640 Speaker 1: the rose was another headline um hashtag rose all day. 149 00:09:16,679 --> 00:09:21,360 Speaker 1: It's an Instagram sensation, hashtag guess way rose. It's millennial pink, 150 00:09:21,400 --> 00:09:23,720 Speaker 1: which is like the in color. There are articles about it. 151 00:09:23,840 --> 00:09:26,240 Speaker 1: You know this color, You've seen it everywhere, the color 152 00:09:26,280 --> 00:09:31,560 Speaker 1: of shorts. Yeah, everything is in millennial pink now. And 153 00:09:31,679 --> 00:09:35,199 Speaker 1: it's equally enjoyed by men and women, sometimes jokingly called 154 00:09:35,520 --> 00:09:39,760 Speaker 1: rose the label of the Charles and Charles Rose leads, Yes, 155 00:09:39,800 --> 00:09:42,800 Speaker 1: you can drink rose and still be badass. You know 156 00:09:42,840 --> 00:09:45,920 Speaker 1: it's true, It's true. I think part of the allure 157 00:09:46,040 --> 00:09:48,800 Speaker 1: is that it is it seems like a day drinking 158 00:09:49,200 --> 00:09:52,440 Speaker 1: summer outdoors. It's lighter, I mean it is a little 159 00:09:52,440 --> 00:09:54,520 Speaker 1: bit lighter in alcohol content. It's only usually like a 160 00:09:54,559 --> 00:09:57,080 Speaker 1: ten percent as opposed to like a fourteen to seventeen 161 00:09:57,120 --> 00:10:00,400 Speaker 1: for a lot of other wines. It is were propped 162 00:10:00,400 --> 00:10:03,319 Speaker 1: there among the younger set and in coastal cities. N 163 00:10:03,480 --> 00:10:06,280 Speaker 1: y C. New York City drinks a quarter of imported rose. 164 00:10:06,679 --> 00:10:12,839 Speaker 1: Oh goodness. It's also generally economical, and there are all 165 00:10:12,960 --> 00:10:18,400 Speaker 1: those Rose themed products, shirts, deodorants, floats for the pool festivals. 166 00:10:18,960 --> 00:10:22,280 Speaker 1: There is a pop up Rose Mansion in New York 167 00:10:22,360 --> 00:10:24,320 Speaker 1: City in the summer. I think this is their second 168 00:10:24,360 --> 00:10:27,320 Speaker 1: year running. Taste eight different wines as you make your 169 00:10:27,320 --> 00:10:30,160 Speaker 1: way through a labyrinth of science, history and wine culture. 170 00:10:30,400 --> 00:10:34,200 Speaker 1: There's fourteen rooms you can visit, Cleopatra's Palace, a nineteen 171 00:10:34,240 --> 00:10:37,800 Speaker 1: sixties themed acid test our, vintage airline lounge, and more. 172 00:10:38,480 --> 00:10:40,400 Speaker 1: I don't know if that's all one thing or different ones. 173 00:10:40,440 --> 00:10:44,119 Speaker 1: I couldn't really tell. I love it. Um. The Champagne 174 00:10:44,120 --> 00:10:49,480 Speaker 1: Disco Bullpit will be back. Disco bob Uh introducing rose Land, 175 00:10:49,720 --> 00:10:57,640 Speaker 1: the greatest wine themed playground on the planet. Wine themed playground. Yeah, 176 00:10:57,920 --> 00:11:01,200 Speaker 1: so you know, well, ow an Instagram and that's what 177 00:11:01,320 --> 00:11:03,280 Speaker 1: they really want you to do. I would if I 178 00:11:03,320 --> 00:11:05,559 Speaker 1: was there, I would go listeners. If you go or 179 00:11:05,600 --> 00:11:09,280 Speaker 1: have been, please let us know. Um. And yeah, back 180 00:11:09,280 --> 00:11:11,520 Speaker 1: to Frose for a second. I know a year or 181 00:11:11,520 --> 00:11:14,480 Speaker 1: so ago, the building our studio is located in tried 182 00:11:14,520 --> 00:11:18,400 Speaker 1: to get the Guinness World Record for largest Frose a 183 00:11:18,520 --> 00:11:20,640 Speaker 1: toast because you can get Frose up on the roof. Yeah. Yeah, 184 00:11:20,640 --> 00:11:22,720 Speaker 1: we're one of those posh like like live work play 185 00:11:22,800 --> 00:11:25,920 Speaker 1: kind of places. Yes, I don't think it happened because 186 00:11:25,920 --> 00:11:30,280 Speaker 1: I was signed up and he was like yes, yes, um, 187 00:11:30,320 --> 00:11:35,400 Speaker 1: and then I never heard back. Oh, that can't be true. 188 00:11:35,400 --> 00:11:39,440 Speaker 1: That can be clearly not. Um was the year of 189 00:11:39,520 --> 00:11:42,920 Speaker 1: the Frose. I read um And I also read somewhere 190 00:11:42,960 --> 00:11:45,000 Speaker 1: that it's like a popular joke that it's the dating 191 00:11:45,080 --> 00:11:52,760 Speaker 1: drink of white people. Yeah, yeah, I I will put 192 00:11:52,800 --> 00:11:56,079 Speaker 1: in here that of Forbes article I read started with them. 193 00:11:56,160 --> 00:11:58,640 Speaker 1: You know how they have like key tweetable points at 194 00:11:58,640 --> 00:12:00,440 Speaker 1: the top of some of these news news it's now 195 00:12:00,760 --> 00:12:03,840 Speaker 1: um and one of theirs was many Rose's our Wines 196 00:12:03,880 --> 00:12:07,040 Speaker 1: of Quality comma made by winemakers of Skill and ar 197 00:12:07,120 --> 00:12:13,199 Speaker 1: War of Distinction. So Rose's don't look. It was the 198 00:12:13,280 --> 00:12:17,800 Speaker 1: key point, important takeaway. So takeaway of this episode it is, 199 00:12:17,960 --> 00:12:19,960 Speaker 1: we have other takeaways. We have more than one takeaway. 200 00:12:20,040 --> 00:12:22,760 Speaker 1: We we do um as as we frequently do. I 201 00:12:22,800 --> 00:12:29,080 Speaker 1: hope that's my gracious Uh. Yeah. No, we've got some 202 00:12:29,200 --> 00:12:41,959 Speaker 1: history for you, um, including some about white zinfandel. No. Um, 203 00:12:42,040 --> 00:12:44,079 Speaker 1: but first we've got a quick break for a word 204 00:12:44,120 --> 00:12:56,319 Speaker 1: from our sponsor, and we're back. Thank you, sponsored, Yes, 205 00:12:56,360 --> 00:13:00,360 Speaker 1: thank you. Many of the first recorded wines were in 206 00:13:00,440 --> 00:13:03,600 Speaker 1: fact rose's, and we talked about that in our very 207 00:13:03,840 --> 00:13:08,040 Speaker 1: first episode on Sparkling Wine. Oh we were so young, 208 00:13:08,640 --> 00:13:13,080 Speaker 1: so oh anyway, a lot of early wines were watered 209 00:13:13,080 --> 00:13:16,320 Speaker 1: down blends of white and red grapes. The Greeks viewed 210 00:13:16,320 --> 00:13:21,520 Speaker 1: it as civilized, but as usual, these were exactly there, 211 00:13:21,760 --> 00:13:24,839 Speaker 1: weren't exactly excuse me, the Rose's that we are used 212 00:13:24,840 --> 00:13:28,080 Speaker 1: to today. Um, they were fairly off dry. At the time. 213 00:13:28,240 --> 00:13:30,320 Speaker 1: Wine wasn't mastrated as long as it is today, so 214 00:13:30,360 --> 00:13:33,640 Speaker 1: it rarely developed that deep red color. A fun myth 215 00:13:33,679 --> 00:13:37,720 Speaker 1: goes that Amphicti in Para and Duca Leon's son cut 216 00:13:37,720 --> 00:13:41,600 Speaker 1: red wine with water to keep the arguing to a minimum. Yes, 217 00:13:42,120 --> 00:13:44,600 Speaker 1: ancient Greeks did believe for a time that drinking pure 218 00:13:44,600 --> 00:13:48,720 Speaker 1: wine was sinful and when lead to murder and other crimes. 219 00:13:49,120 --> 00:13:50,720 Speaker 1: This might go back to the legend of the Battle 220 00:13:50,800 --> 00:13:53,920 Speaker 1: of the Piths, with the Centaurs centers attending a wedding 221 00:13:53,960 --> 00:13:56,840 Speaker 1: feast of the le Pith tribe got drunk drinking straight 222 00:13:56,840 --> 00:14:00,600 Speaker 1: wine and started attacking the other guests. This story goes 223 00:14:00,600 --> 00:14:05,480 Speaker 1: that uncut wine drove Spartan king Colminus to insanity and 224 00:14:05,559 --> 00:14:10,200 Speaker 1: eventually suicide. A famous Greek traveler, Pausanius wrote about Bryna, 225 00:14:10,360 --> 00:14:12,959 Speaker 1: the leader of the Galic tribe. Bryne's wounds left him 226 00:14:12,960 --> 00:14:15,360 Speaker 1: no hope, they say, out of fear of his countrymen, 227 00:14:15,360 --> 00:14:17,400 Speaker 1: and even more out of the shame as the cause 228 00:14:17,440 --> 00:14:20,200 Speaker 1: of all their sufferings in Greece. He died deliberately by 229 00:14:20,280 --> 00:14:25,120 Speaker 1: drinking unmixed wine. Dang, I know what a way to go. Indeed, 230 00:14:25,720 --> 00:14:28,320 Speaker 1: when the Phoenicians arrived in what is now Marseilles, France 231 00:14:28,320 --> 00:14:31,120 Speaker 1: and sixth century BC, they brought with them grape vines. 232 00:14:31,440 --> 00:14:33,560 Speaker 1: The red and white grapes were blended together to make 233 00:14:33,600 --> 00:14:37,240 Speaker 1: a pinkish wine. They were all the rage in the Mediterranean, 234 00:14:37,320 --> 00:14:40,880 Speaker 1: and words spread about the quote pleasant pink wines from Marseilles. 235 00:14:41,120 --> 00:14:43,880 Speaker 1: The Romans knew all about them when they arrived in Provence, 236 00:14:44,320 --> 00:14:48,240 Speaker 1: and that the trade of rose's expanded after that. Yes, 237 00:14:48,320 --> 00:14:51,200 Speaker 1: and this all means that rose has been a Provence 238 00:14:51,280 --> 00:14:56,280 Speaker 1: France thing for like years. Yep, yep, love it. Towards 239 00:14:56,280 --> 00:15:00,680 Speaker 1: the middle of one hundred, the Romans popularized darker red wine. 240 00:15:01,160 --> 00:15:04,160 Speaker 1: During the Middle Ages, the Bordeaux region produced a nowadays 241 00:15:04,160 --> 00:15:07,200 Speaker 1: mostly extinct dark red rose called Clarets, or they would 242 00:15:07,200 --> 00:15:09,120 Speaker 1: have called it claret. At the time. This was the 243 00:15:09,120 --> 00:15:12,520 Speaker 1: most exported wine to England. Once the eighteenth century rolled around, 244 00:15:12,520 --> 00:15:15,760 Speaker 1: the British moved onto a darker reds two darker reds 245 00:15:15,840 --> 00:15:20,160 Speaker 1: um clarets, and that became their wine of choice. In 246 00:15:20,200 --> 00:15:23,120 Speaker 1: part of Austria, the Celts found and fell for a 247 00:15:23,200 --> 00:15:27,920 Speaker 1: native grape called Roberts pearl or rabid pearls. They were 248 00:15:27,960 --> 00:15:31,120 Speaker 1: most likely called this because they fomented on the vine 249 00:15:31,160 --> 00:15:35,080 Speaker 1: and got you good and drunk. It was commonly understood 250 00:15:35,120 --> 00:15:38,280 Speaker 1: to cause high blood pressure, aggression and even gout good 251 00:15:38,280 --> 00:15:42,080 Speaker 1: on them. That's that's solid health science right there, solid 252 00:15:42,120 --> 00:15:45,720 Speaker 1: health science. It wasn't until the seventeen hundreds of humans 253 00:15:45,800 --> 00:15:49,800 Speaker 1: and maybe specifically human whose name you might recognize, don't. 254 00:15:49,800 --> 00:15:54,960 Speaker 1: Perignon figured out the technology and methodology for producing white 255 00:15:54,960 --> 00:15:58,520 Speaker 1: wines from red grapes, so until then probably like a 256 00:15:58,560 --> 00:16:01,560 Speaker 1: bunch of wines were pink us. Moving on to the 257 00:16:01,640 --> 00:16:04,520 Speaker 1: nineteenth century, light wines in the process of producing them, 258 00:16:04,560 --> 00:16:07,760 Speaker 1: had made its way to California. The first documented rose 259 00:16:07,920 --> 00:16:11,120 Speaker 1: of California was the eighteen sixty nine Sinfidel grape rose 260 00:16:11,280 --> 00:16:15,240 Speaker 1: from Elpinal Winery, and moving into the twentieth century, tourism 261 00:16:15,280 --> 00:16:18,800 Speaker 1: to the Provence region a k Rose Central brought it 262 00:16:18,840 --> 00:16:21,560 Speaker 1: back into popular culture in Europe and inspired Italy and 263 00:16:21,640 --> 00:16:26,000 Speaker 1: Spain to start making their own. In nineteen sixty one, 264 00:16:26,040 --> 00:16:28,680 Speaker 1: Julia Child said you can serve rose with anything, and 265 00:16:28,720 --> 00:16:33,280 Speaker 1: I believe her. I do too. Oh yeah. The seeds 266 00:16:33,280 --> 00:16:38,000 Speaker 1: of rose's popularity in the United States were planted in 267 00:16:38,000 --> 00:16:46,960 Speaker 1: the nineteen seventies with the notorious white zinfandel Lounder Crack 268 00:16:47,200 --> 00:16:53,080 Speaker 1: a C. D C song. So so what happened was 269 00:16:53,280 --> 00:16:56,800 Speaker 1: um okay. The owners of Sutter Home are the twin 270 00:16:56,880 --> 00:16:59,720 Speaker 1: Chero family, and in nineteen seventy two they were a 271 00:16:59,800 --> 00:17:03,520 Speaker 1: mid sized winery in California and one Bob Trinchero was 272 00:17:03,600 --> 00:17:08,080 Speaker 1: actually looking to make a darker, richer zinfandel wine. So 273 00:17:08,119 --> 00:17:10,480 Speaker 1: to do this, after switching their grapes, they drained off 274 00:17:10,600 --> 00:17:12,480 Speaker 1: some of the juice right away, with the hopes that 275 00:17:12,520 --> 00:17:14,639 Speaker 1: the remaining juice would pick up a heavier dose of 276 00:17:14,640 --> 00:17:17,399 Speaker 1: the color and flavor from the skins. This is a 277 00:17:17,440 --> 00:17:21,920 Speaker 1: technique called sanie um, which means bleeding in French, and 278 00:17:22,200 --> 00:17:26,520 Speaker 1: it developed centuries ago in response to the greater popularity 279 00:17:26,560 --> 00:17:30,119 Speaker 1: of dark reds. But the thing about sania is that 280 00:17:30,240 --> 00:17:34,359 Speaker 1: it leaves you with this like mostly white juice left 281 00:17:34,440 --> 00:17:38,639 Speaker 1: over as a byproduct. So as folks presented with the 282 00:17:38,720 --> 00:17:43,280 Speaker 1: surplus juice have dang near always done, the Trinchero family 283 00:17:43,320 --> 00:17:45,920 Speaker 1: went on and prevented it into a dry wine that 284 00:17:46,359 --> 00:17:58,720 Speaker 1: they called white zinfandel, but then dramas too much no 285 00:17:58,920 --> 00:18:04,560 Speaker 1: no okay, center home ran into a problem with stuck fermentation. 286 00:18:04,920 --> 00:18:07,040 Speaker 1: This is a situation when the sugar doesn't all the 287 00:18:07,080 --> 00:18:10,960 Speaker 1: way convert to alcohol, leaving you with a slightly sweet wine, yeah, 288 00:18:11,040 --> 00:18:13,080 Speaker 1: like kind of sweet, kind of pinker, and with a 289 00:18:13,160 --> 00:18:15,760 Speaker 1: less alcohol content than a normal wine. And what's going 290 00:18:15,760 --> 00:18:17,600 Speaker 1: on here is that for some reason that the yeast 291 00:18:17,720 --> 00:18:19,960 Speaker 1: all dies off before they finish eating all that sugar 292 00:18:20,160 --> 00:18:26,280 Speaker 1: and pooping alcohol happens sometimes m hm. They could have 293 00:18:26,440 --> 00:18:30,120 Speaker 1: tossed it, but they wisely chose to sell it as 294 00:18:30,160 --> 00:18:36,120 Speaker 1: sutter Home white Zinfandel, and it was a hit and 295 00:18:36,359 --> 00:18:40,479 Speaker 1: the start of the blush wine category here in America. 296 00:18:40,760 --> 00:18:44,320 Speaker 1: This seventies blush wine US explosion was also in part 297 00:18:44,359 --> 00:18:46,920 Speaker 1: because of the high demand for white wine in California 298 00:18:47,080 --> 00:18:50,040 Speaker 1: that led to a shortage of white grapes, so wineries 299 00:18:50,040 --> 00:18:55,439 Speaker 1: made white wine out of red grapes. Also, the sutter 300 00:18:55,600 --> 00:19:00,119 Speaker 1: Home white zinfandel experiment was called oi de pejrie i 301 00:19:00,400 --> 00:19:04,320 Speaker 1: of the partridge. This phrase originated in France's Champagne region 302 00:19:04,359 --> 00:19:06,399 Speaker 1: and referred to the pink color of the eyes of 303 00:19:06,400 --> 00:19:12,480 Speaker 1: a dying partridge. Gosh, that's goth rights love it. Allegedly, 304 00:19:12,520 --> 00:19:15,120 Speaker 1: at one time this was one of the most popular 305 00:19:15,200 --> 00:19:19,040 Speaker 1: glasses of wine in the world. All over the US 306 00:19:19,160 --> 00:19:22,399 Speaker 1: in the eighties, people were ordering or buying white zinfandel. 307 00:19:22,800 --> 00:19:25,080 Speaker 1: This actually came up and one of our interviews with 308 00:19:25,160 --> 00:19:27,479 Speaker 1: the former Barts under in New Orleans about how it 309 00:19:27,640 --> 00:19:30,760 Speaker 1: changed the bar scene and it opened like it was 310 00:19:30,840 --> 00:19:35,480 Speaker 1: a what do they call that gateway wine? Yeah? Yeah, 311 00:19:35,960 --> 00:19:39,760 Speaker 1: As of seven center homes. White Zin was the most 312 00:19:39,760 --> 00:19:43,080 Speaker 1: popular wine in the United States. They were selling thousand 313 00:19:43,160 --> 00:19:46,399 Speaker 1: cases per year in eighty one. By seven, they were 314 00:19:46,400 --> 00:19:51,680 Speaker 1: selling over four point five million cases per year. Wine 315 00:19:51,680 --> 00:19:54,800 Speaker 1: Spectator magazine gave Bob a sort of like midlife Achievement 316 00:19:54,800 --> 00:19:58,040 Speaker 1: award for quote having introduced more Americans to wine on 317 00:19:58,040 --> 00:20:04,359 Speaker 1: the table than anyone in history. Wow love it well. 318 00:20:04,920 --> 00:20:08,600 Speaker 1: The White Zin might have achieved popularity. It was sometimes 319 00:20:08,600 --> 00:20:12,000 Speaker 1: called a gateway line, like I said, but it suffered 320 00:20:12,040 --> 00:20:15,800 Speaker 1: a backlash. It was dismissed and looked down upon by 321 00:20:15,960 --> 00:20:20,240 Speaker 1: Somalia's and Quote series wine drinkers. During the nineties. It 322 00:20:20,280 --> 00:20:23,320 Speaker 1: was seen as the cheap box wine that their mom's drank. 323 00:20:24,040 --> 00:20:31,120 Speaker 1: Tacki Wolfer State produced their first rose in Long Island, 324 00:20:31,359 --> 00:20:38,080 Speaker 1: called Hampton's Gatorade cases. Nowadays they produced twenty two thousand 325 00:20:38,160 --> 00:20:45,560 Speaker 1: cases and they're running quote dangerously low. Um. Meanwhile, back 326 00:20:45,600 --> 00:20:48,760 Speaker 1: in France, Uh oh, I put more French in hair. 327 00:20:48,800 --> 00:20:52,720 Speaker 1: Heck uh the center do you research at the experiment 328 00:20:53,560 --> 00:21:00,080 Speaker 1: La Vin Rose? Maybe? Yeah, sure, that was founded in English. 329 00:21:00,160 --> 00:21:02,800 Speaker 1: That's the Center for Rose Research, which I think loses 330 00:21:02,840 --> 00:21:05,080 Speaker 1: something in translation, which is why even though my my 331 00:21:05,119 --> 00:21:08,000 Speaker 1: French accent is terrible. I kind of wanted to attempt 332 00:21:08,400 --> 00:21:11,440 Speaker 1: saying it anyway. UM, this uh, this Center for Rose 333 00:21:11,640 --> 00:21:14,800 Speaker 1: Research was sort of the culmination of a whole decade 334 00:21:14,880 --> 00:21:18,800 Speaker 1: or so of increasing seriousness about Rose's in France. UM 335 00:21:18,880 --> 00:21:21,080 Speaker 1: no longer just a byproduct or an afterthought, what with 336 00:21:21,119 --> 00:21:24,720 Speaker 1: all of the American attention to blushes wineries in France, 337 00:21:24,720 --> 00:21:28,440 Speaker 1: we're starting to focus specifically on making like really decent Rose's. 338 00:21:28,840 --> 00:21:32,760 Speaker 1: A whole industry of technology for Rose's, sprung up refrigeration 339 00:21:32,800 --> 00:21:35,760 Speaker 1: systems to control the temperature, stainless steel tanks to prevent 340 00:21:35,840 --> 00:21:38,840 Speaker 1: unwanted flavors from creeping in. Uh. Stainless steel keeps wines 341 00:21:38,920 --> 00:21:41,360 Speaker 1: tasting crisp and fresh, whereas would can add all kinds 342 00:21:41,400 --> 00:21:43,680 Speaker 1: of a rich buttery or vanilla. E notes that you 343 00:21:43,800 --> 00:21:47,920 Speaker 1: might not want. It wasn't until the two thousands when 344 00:21:48,200 --> 00:21:52,280 Speaker 1: beach resorts, hotels, destinations started serving Rose as kind of 345 00:21:52,280 --> 00:21:54,199 Speaker 1: a beach wine, kind of that day wine we were 346 00:21:54,200 --> 00:21:57,360 Speaker 1: talking about earlier that American fascination with it really took off. 347 00:21:57,359 --> 00:21:59,119 Speaker 1: And I read somewhere to you that it had to 348 00:21:59,160 --> 00:22:03,560 Speaker 1: do with of a renewed fascination with France social media 349 00:22:03,640 --> 00:22:08,159 Speaker 1: helped too. For instance, the Fat jew Um, some of 350 00:22:08,200 --> 00:22:10,000 Speaker 1: you may have heard of him, caught the intention of 351 00:22:10,040 --> 00:22:12,840 Speaker 1: social media at large when he went around New York 352 00:22:12,880 --> 00:22:16,639 Speaker 1: City in a salmon colored car, a giant wine bottle, 353 00:22:16,800 --> 00:22:20,120 Speaker 1: Rose bottle, and a gospel choir belting out Lady Gaga's 354 00:22:20,240 --> 00:22:24,280 Speaker 1: jest dance on National Rose Day. It was a whole thing. 355 00:22:25,400 --> 00:22:29,920 Speaker 1: Celebrities also helped elevate Rose standing. Jay Z rapped about 356 00:22:29,960 --> 00:22:32,720 Speaker 1: Rose and his two thousand six songs thirties something as 357 00:22:32,720 --> 00:22:36,480 Speaker 1: a dissan rappers who weren't hip, weren't with the times. Uh. 358 00:22:36,720 --> 00:22:41,360 Speaker 1: The lyric was y'all drink dumb but not Rose? Ye okay. 359 00:22:41,760 --> 00:22:44,439 Speaker 1: Brandelena Brad Pitt and Angela and Julie used to have 360 00:22:44,480 --> 00:22:47,440 Speaker 1: a wine from their state mirror Ball. I'm not sure 361 00:22:47,440 --> 00:22:49,359 Speaker 1: if it still exists, since they're not together anymore. It 362 00:22:49,359 --> 00:22:53,080 Speaker 1: probably does. But one of the Kardashians snapchatted a forty 363 00:22:53,119 --> 00:22:56,200 Speaker 1: of Rose. I've been told it was not Kim because 364 00:22:56,240 --> 00:22:58,760 Speaker 1: she doesn't drink. Oh. I don't know much about Kardashi. 365 00:22:59,800 --> 00:23:03,879 Speaker 1: I can't help you there. Alas Um, but a wine 366 00:23:03,920 --> 00:23:06,040 Speaker 1: expert working with Jet Blue on their drink Man you 367 00:23:06,119 --> 00:23:09,919 Speaker 1: recently declared Rose to be the best in flight wine 368 00:23:10,640 --> 00:23:13,199 Speaker 1: really uh in the air, that the dryness and the 369 00:23:13,200 --> 00:23:15,840 Speaker 1: pressure of the cabin makes you experience wines and all 370 00:23:15,920 --> 00:23:18,800 Speaker 1: flavors and smells um differently than you would here on 371 00:23:18,840 --> 00:23:22,240 Speaker 1: the ground. Um key, there is that a romas dissipate 372 00:23:22,280 --> 00:23:24,800 Speaker 1: really quickly, so everything you love about, like a rich, 373 00:23:24,840 --> 00:23:27,560 Speaker 1: heavy red on the ground will taste really flat in 374 00:23:27,600 --> 00:23:31,920 Speaker 1: the air. However, one Kelsey McKinney, writing for g Q, 375 00:23:32,359 --> 00:23:35,760 Speaker 1: pointed out quote, Ultimately, though the differences in the sky 376 00:23:35,840 --> 00:23:38,520 Speaker 1: aren't drastic enough to make you spittake if you hate rose, 377 00:23:38,720 --> 00:23:41,240 Speaker 1: for example, being in a giant metal tube hurtling through 378 00:23:41,240 --> 00:23:43,040 Speaker 1: the air at hundreds of miles per hour is not 379 00:23:43,080 --> 00:23:46,760 Speaker 1: going to suddenly make you like it. Yes, I think 380 00:23:46,760 --> 00:23:48,439 Speaker 1: that is accurate, and I just found that to be 381 00:23:48,480 --> 00:23:53,240 Speaker 1: a very wise quote, very indeed. And yeah, these days 382 00:23:53,400 --> 00:23:58,000 Speaker 1: even that maligned white zin category is making a comeback. Um. 383 00:23:58,240 --> 00:24:01,280 Speaker 1: I think a lot of winemakers are doing dry versions 384 00:24:01,320 --> 00:24:03,520 Speaker 1: now and using the name to like play on nostalgia, 385 00:24:04,000 --> 00:24:06,080 Speaker 1: um and to feature the cool flavors that you get 386 00:24:06,119 --> 00:24:10,200 Speaker 1: from zinfandel grapes, but like, maybe mostly the nostalgia thing um, 387 00:24:10,359 --> 00:24:13,560 Speaker 1: wines labeled white and Fandel sells something like ten million 388 00:24:13,600 --> 00:24:16,680 Speaker 1: cases per year in the United States, perhaps as much 389 00:24:16,680 --> 00:24:21,800 Speaker 1: as ten of all wine sold here. Wow, white Zin. 390 00:24:22,320 --> 00:24:25,480 Speaker 1: I love it so great. I have to say, it 391 00:24:25,480 --> 00:24:27,959 Speaker 1: does feel pretty new to me, so I guess I've 392 00:24:28,000 --> 00:24:33,080 Speaker 1: got caught up in this whole millennial pink phenomenal. Yeah, 393 00:24:33,080 --> 00:24:35,399 Speaker 1: I've been seeing more of them. I've definitely been buying 394 00:24:35,440 --> 00:24:38,320 Speaker 1: more of them. But I feel like, for the first time, 395 00:24:38,680 --> 00:24:41,360 Speaker 1: within the past maybe five years, I started seeing bottles 396 00:24:41,359 --> 00:24:45,040 Speaker 1: of dry ross as opposed to because I don't really 397 00:24:45,040 --> 00:24:47,520 Speaker 1: like a sweet wine. I don't either, and I have 398 00:24:47,560 --> 00:24:50,399 Speaker 1: noticed because they asked super producer Andrew, and I asked 399 00:24:50,640 --> 00:24:52,600 Speaker 1: somebody else who works here in office what other thoughts 400 00:24:52,600 --> 00:24:54,240 Speaker 1: on rose were, and They're like, well, we don't like 401 00:24:54,240 --> 00:24:56,639 Speaker 1: sweet wines. I'm like, wow, I don't either, but you 402 00:24:56,640 --> 00:25:00,720 Speaker 1: know there are there's more. The first time that I 403 00:25:00,720 --> 00:25:03,560 Speaker 1: ever liked rose was when we were doing interviews for 404 00:25:03,600 --> 00:25:08,000 Speaker 1: that very first episode. It was then food stuff. We 405 00:25:08,000 --> 00:25:11,960 Speaker 1: were out at a local winery three three sisters, yeah, 406 00:25:12,119 --> 00:25:16,760 Speaker 1: up in Delonica, and uh they served us a sparkling Rose, 407 00:25:16,880 --> 00:25:20,879 Speaker 1: I believe, and I was like, I don't hate this. 408 00:25:20,880 --> 00:25:25,280 Speaker 1: This is pleasant Yeah, nice, dry crisp. Yeah, delightful and 409 00:25:25,320 --> 00:25:27,200 Speaker 1: it was cold at the time. It was oh, it 410 00:25:27,320 --> 00:25:33,719 Speaker 1: was chili that day, so imagine who plans plans, plans, 411 00:25:33,720 --> 00:25:37,080 Speaker 1: plans for the research. Um. So that's about what we 412 00:25:37,119 --> 00:25:40,480 Speaker 1: have to say on Rose. It is, it is, but 413 00:25:40,520 --> 00:25:41,919 Speaker 1: we do have a little bit more for you. But 414 00:25:42,000 --> 00:25:43,800 Speaker 1: first we've got one more quick break for a word 415 00:25:43,840 --> 00:25:56,160 Speaker 1: from our sponsor, and we're back. Thank you sponsored, Yes, 416 00:25:56,240 --> 00:26:01,720 Speaker 1: thank you, and we're back with Listen. I'm trying to 417 00:26:01,760 --> 00:26:05,120 Speaker 1: go for Brose, but then I almost said listener Rose, 418 00:26:05,400 --> 00:26:08,640 Speaker 1: which is Laura knows as a frequent blooper I make 419 00:26:09,320 --> 00:26:11,120 Speaker 1: I don't say listener Mail, but I say the topic 420 00:26:11,160 --> 00:26:13,240 Speaker 1: of the episode. So there was a moment of panic, 421 00:26:13,280 --> 00:26:18,720 Speaker 1: but it all worked out, it did. We're doing just okay, 422 00:26:19,880 --> 00:26:23,320 Speaker 1: Kathleen wrote, I just finished the Pavlova episode and it 423 00:26:23,359 --> 00:26:26,200 Speaker 1: reminded me of an episode of The Great British Bagging Show. 424 00:26:26,760 --> 00:26:28,680 Speaker 1: In each episode of the show, there is a technical 425 00:26:28,720 --> 00:26:31,840 Speaker 1: challenge where contestants are given a stripped down recipe i e. 426 00:26:31,960 --> 00:26:34,920 Speaker 1: Missing some information or with minimal instruction. It always makes 427 00:26:34,920 --> 00:26:37,200 Speaker 1: me so nervous just reading about it makes me nervous. 428 00:26:37,440 --> 00:26:39,600 Speaker 1: Most of the time, the technical challenge recipe is an 429 00:26:39,600 --> 00:26:42,640 Speaker 1: obscure dish that the contestants are unlikely to be familiar with. 430 00:26:43,000 --> 00:26:45,159 Speaker 1: In one episode, contestants were given a recipe for a 431 00:26:45,280 --> 00:26:48,879 Speaker 1: vegan pavlova that used chickpea juice instead of egg whites. 432 00:26:49,200 --> 00:26:52,320 Speaker 1: It was hilarious and fascinating to watch the confused contestants 433 00:26:52,400 --> 00:26:55,280 Speaker 1: draining chickpea juice into the bowls of their electric mixers 434 00:26:55,520 --> 00:26:58,080 Speaker 1: and watching anxiously to see if the juice would begin 435 00:26:58,119 --> 00:27:01,560 Speaker 1: to resemble whipped egg whites, and it did. The end 436 00:27:01,600 --> 00:27:03,879 Speaker 1: results look delicious and, according to the judges, had the 437 00:27:03,880 --> 00:27:06,199 Speaker 1: texture and taste of meringue. I haven't tried it yet, 438 00:27:06,240 --> 00:27:08,439 Speaker 1: but I wonder if chippe juice could be used to 439 00:27:08,480 --> 00:27:10,919 Speaker 1: make vegan angel food, cake and other desserts that typically 440 00:27:10,920 --> 00:27:15,280 Speaker 1: require a whites. Um. I have done this before. Yeah, yeah, 441 00:27:15,680 --> 00:27:18,320 Speaker 1: it's fascinating. I'd love to know that science behind it. 442 00:27:18,400 --> 00:27:24,760 Speaker 1: But something happens, Something happens, and then you're like, oh, yeah, okay, 443 00:27:24,920 --> 00:27:30,119 Speaker 1: it's similar to what I normally use mm hmmt research 444 00:27:30,160 --> 00:27:34,960 Speaker 1: future research. Absolutely the episode Forthcoming, Chrissie wrote back in 445 00:27:34,960 --> 00:27:37,440 Speaker 1: the eighties, due to a multitude of car accidents, the 446 00:27:37,480 --> 00:27:40,280 Speaker 1: administration decided that Prom was no longer going to be 447 00:27:40,320 --> 00:27:42,640 Speaker 1: held at other venues and it would be at the school, 448 00:27:42,760 --> 00:27:45,160 Speaker 1: with the hopes that drinking and driving would be curbed. 449 00:27:45,640 --> 00:27:47,879 Speaker 1: The juniors began choosing themes for Prom and spent the 450 00:27:47,880 --> 00:27:49,880 Speaker 1: week leading up to the event decorating the gym as 451 00:27:49,920 --> 00:27:53,520 Speaker 1: a gift to the seniors. Themes like under the Sea, Hollywood, 452 00:27:53,600 --> 00:27:56,160 Speaker 1: or Alice in Wonderland where some of them. The gym 453 00:27:56,200 --> 00:27:58,240 Speaker 1: really transformed and it didn't feel like Prom at the 454 00:27:58,240 --> 00:28:01,119 Speaker 1: school at all. Since Prom was now on campus, people 455 00:28:01,119 --> 00:28:03,719 Speaker 1: in town started coming to watch the students arrive, and 456 00:28:03,760 --> 00:28:06,840 Speaker 1: thus a red carpet was born. Students would come in 457 00:28:06,840 --> 00:28:10,479 Speaker 1: cool cars, bikes, trolleys, their father's bakery's bread truck and 458 00:28:10,560 --> 00:28:14,280 Speaker 1: throw rolls and flower but never limos or party buses. 459 00:28:14,680 --> 00:28:18,160 Speaker 1: This tradition still continues today. Now here's where it connects. 460 00:28:18,840 --> 00:28:21,520 Speaker 1: Our town is a small seaside community of about fifteen 461 00:28:21,560 --> 00:28:24,879 Speaker 1: thousand between Boston and Cape Cod. Were known for our oysters, 462 00:28:24,960 --> 00:28:28,080 Speaker 1: shout out to Island Creek, gorgeous beaches, great schools, and 463 00:28:28,119 --> 00:28:32,000 Speaker 1: the occasional celebrity neighbor Well, some of our local celebrities 464 00:28:32,119 --> 00:28:35,120 Speaker 1: just happened to be the Farley Brothers. Yes, the directors 465 00:28:35,160 --> 00:28:37,640 Speaker 1: of Dumb and Dummer. Bobby still lives in town. Peter 466 00:28:37,840 --> 00:28:40,080 Speaker 1: is on the west coast. So back to prom and 467 00:28:40,160 --> 00:28:43,120 Speaker 1: arriving in style? What did two couples end up arriving 468 00:28:43,120 --> 00:28:47,480 Speaker 1: in themobile? And to top it off, they're wearing baby 469 00:28:47,480 --> 00:28:51,920 Speaker 1: blue and orange texas just like the movie. Oh my goodness, 470 00:28:52,640 --> 00:28:56,080 Speaker 1: is a different experience than mine from but i've that 471 00:28:56,200 --> 00:29:01,520 Speaker 1: sounds fun. Yes, that's is more fun than my prom. 472 00:29:01,640 --> 00:29:05,680 Speaker 1: Apologies my problems, Yeah, no, apologies to my problem. But 473 00:29:06,880 --> 00:29:10,240 Speaker 1: motmobile we mentioned in our food Vehicles episode brief we did. 474 00:29:10,760 --> 00:29:15,160 Speaker 1: Scott alluded to it being a documentary, which of course 475 00:29:15,160 --> 00:29:18,720 Speaker 1: it is right Well, I mean, clearly the vehicle is real, 476 00:29:19,000 --> 00:29:20,960 Speaker 1: so the rest of it must be accurate as well. 477 00:29:21,520 --> 00:29:27,120 Speaker 1: That's how it works. That is how we're absolutely um. 478 00:29:27,160 --> 00:29:28,920 Speaker 1: Thanks to both of them for reading in. Before we 479 00:29:28,960 --> 00:29:31,880 Speaker 1: close out, two quick announcements. One thanks to the people 480 00:29:31,880 --> 00:29:35,120 Speaker 1: who wrote in about my funny all not funny, but 481 00:29:35,160 --> 00:29:36,960 Speaker 1: it's funny to me. Confusion of names of Game of 482 00:29:36,960 --> 00:29:39,200 Speaker 1: Thrones because I did it in the very episode right, 483 00:29:39,320 --> 00:29:44,920 Speaker 1: mixed up Massanda and Melissandra. Terrible person. I thought I 484 00:29:44,960 --> 00:29:47,160 Speaker 1: caught it, but I guess I didn't. That's my bad. Well, 485 00:29:47,240 --> 00:29:50,200 Speaker 1: I generally mixed up the name, so there's proof that 486 00:29:50,240 --> 00:29:53,040 Speaker 1: I was not lying. And Second, Lauren and I will 487 00:29:53,080 --> 00:29:56,000 Speaker 1: be at the Atlanta Food and Wine Year. Got kind 488 00:29:56,000 --> 00:29:59,200 Speaker 1: of started mostly mostly Annie perhaps, Yes, I'm going to 489 00:29:59,240 --> 00:30:02,719 Speaker 1: try to make it, uh, I guess. Third low key announcement. 490 00:30:02,800 --> 00:30:09,480 Speaker 1: We're going to Hawaii. Yeah, yeah, going like soon. Yeah. Um, 491 00:30:09,640 --> 00:30:12,320 Speaker 1: we're we're going to be there the third through like 492 00:30:12,360 --> 00:30:15,479 Speaker 1: the four of June, and we're gonna be working some 493 00:30:15,520 --> 00:30:18,040 Speaker 1: of those days. And then Annie and are both taking 494 00:30:18,160 --> 00:30:22,040 Speaker 1: vacation time. Yes. I don't even know what that means. 495 00:30:22,120 --> 00:30:24,080 Speaker 1: I don't know either. I look forward to it though. 496 00:30:24,600 --> 00:30:29,520 Speaker 1: Um so yeah, we we would love to hear any 497 00:30:29,560 --> 00:30:33,360 Speaker 1: specific recommendations that y'all have for Hawaii. If you're going 498 00:30:33,400 --> 00:30:35,719 Speaker 1: to be at the Atlanta Food and Wine Festival, please 499 00:30:36,000 --> 00:30:39,800 Speaker 1: be on the lookout for us. We we exist. Yeah, 500 00:30:39,920 --> 00:30:43,200 Speaker 1: we're not just like holograms or robots or anything that 501 00:30:43,280 --> 00:30:47,920 Speaker 1: would be ridiculous. Vampires and sleep agents, absolutely, but but 502 00:30:48,000 --> 00:30:52,760 Speaker 1: not not holograms. That is too far. But yeah, and also, 503 00:30:52,800 --> 00:30:55,600 Speaker 1: if you have any suggestions for Hawaii, send our way 504 00:30:55,920 --> 00:30:59,480 Speaker 1: and you can send those things to our email. It's 505 00:30:59,520 --> 00:31:02,840 Speaker 1: hello at savorpod dot com. We are also on social media. 506 00:31:02,920 --> 00:31:06,240 Speaker 1: You can find us on Instagram, Facebook, and Twitter at 507 00:31:06,440 --> 00:31:08,920 Speaker 1: savor pod. We do hope to hear from you. Savor 508 00:31:09,000 --> 00:31:11,320 Speaker 1: is production of iHeart Radio and Stuff Media. For more 509 00:31:11,360 --> 00:31:13,560 Speaker 1: podcasts from my Heart Radio, visit the iHeart Radio app, 510 00:31:13,600 --> 00:31:16,520 Speaker 1: Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to your favorite shows. 511 00:31:16,840 --> 00:31:19,720 Speaker 1: Thank you as always to our superproducers Andrew Howard and 512 00:31:19,800 --> 00:31:22,000 Speaker 1: Dylan Pagan. Thanks to you for listening, and we hope 513 00:31:22,000 --> 00:31:30,800 Speaker 1: that lots more good things are coming your way