WEBVTT - Mick Shots: Draft Upon Us

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<v Speaker 1>The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com

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<v Speaker 1>and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club.

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<v Speaker 2>Cowboys.

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<v Speaker 3>This is Mick Shot, streaming live on Dallascowboys dot Com

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<v Speaker 3>and the official Dallas Cowboys at.

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<v Speaker 1>Now Here are Bill Jones, Everson Wolves, and Mickey Spagnola.

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<v Speaker 3>T minus three days and counting until day number one

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<v Speaker 3>of the National Football League Draft. I saw a football

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<v Speaker 3>player or two on a football field here at the

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<v Speaker 3>Star in Frisco, and we are raring to go on

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<v Speaker 3>this Monday edition of Mix Shots. Bill Jones, Mickey Spagnola,

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<v Speaker 3>Everson Walls thumbing through the Cowboys Star Magazine draft preview issue.

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<v Speaker 3>As he tries to do it, he tries to do

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<v Speaker 3>this homework assignment on the fly. He walks into the classroom.

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<v Speaker 3>The teacher said never, so did you get your homework done?

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<v Speaker 3>And now he's scrambling trying to remember what the assignment was.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm trying to find the DBS first.

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<v Speaker 3>Or come on, so it's a week old.

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<v Speaker 1>Expect to remember.

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<v Speaker 3>All that I purposely texted after the show last week

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<v Speaker 3>and these are your cornerbacks need to look at before

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<v Speaker 3>next Monday. And now he's doing his research. So Mickey

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<v Speaker 3>how are you doing. I'm good, ready to go.

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<v Speaker 2>All right? Thanks pit over there.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't have any homework.

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<v Speaker 2>You could see.

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<v Speaker 1>I had to turn the volume down. Bill's really excited.

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<v Speaker 1>It's draft right, so he came in loud.

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<v Speaker 3>Loud and clear as I'm looking on NFL Network at

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<v Speaker 3>the not so frozen tundra of Lembo feet when days

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<v Speaker 3>draftway will take place on Thursday through the weekend. You

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<v Speaker 3>can enjoy it here at the Star in Frisco as well.

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<v Speaker 3>Tom Pelasero is already at lambeau Field.

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<v Speaker 4>You from what I heard around this stadium, it's one

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<v Speaker 4>of the more unique football stadiums with the exhibitions and

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<v Speaker 4>tell us.

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<v Speaker 3>About it, Mickey, I have never been to lambeau Field.

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<v Speaker 1>They made a kind of a what do.

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<v Speaker 3>They call it an NFL experience. No, they did itself.

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<v Speaker 1>They built around the stadium like.

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<v Speaker 3>A Star in Frisco h Entertainment district. Yeah, there's an

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<v Speaker 3>entertainment just office buildings.

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<v Speaker 2>They can they can walk.

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<v Speaker 4>There's like an exhibit where you as you're going to

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<v Speaker 4>the stadium, right, there's.

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<v Speaker 3>A and they have a Packers Hall of Fame there

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<v Speaker 3>at lambeau And then there's an outdoor. They built an

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<v Speaker 3>outdoor facility draft. Yeah, oh okay, so you're saying a

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<v Speaker 3>temporary one for the draft, but they have it's called

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<v Speaker 3>Title Town. There you go and they build they built

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<v Speaker 3>it up.

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<v Speaker 2>That's already there, that's there.

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<v Speaker 1>But they're building the outdoor parts.

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<v Speaker 2>The Title Town thing. I think that got upgraded or something. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>I knew one guy. He's a Packer fan. I don't

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<v Speaker 4>know why in the hell he's a pack of fan,

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<v Speaker 4>but he was up there and.

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<v Speaker 3>I was a Packer fan.

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<v Speaker 2>Again, thank you. That doesn't prove the case at all.

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<v Speaker 3>Stick it up for your friend.

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<v Speaker 4>Well he's uh, but he talked about how they changed

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<v Speaker 4>a few things. And you can walk through there on

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<v Speaker 4>the way to the stadium. The things that you see

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<v Speaker 4>up to it. They've got this, uh tradition. I guess

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<v Speaker 4>of how they approached there.

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<v Speaker 1>They're expecting you know, over the course of the three days,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, a lot of three hundred thousand people.

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<v Speaker 2>It is amazing.

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<v Speaker 3>It did amazing. I mean you see this as soon

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<v Speaker 3>as they well they went on in New York too,

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<v Speaker 3>but it was just for years in New York. Once

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<v Speaker 3>they got it and moving it around the country isn't

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<v Speaker 3>it amazing.

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<v Speaker 1>The great idea.

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<v Speaker 3>The people love events. I mean, they don't care that

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<v Speaker 3>that it's a there's no well, I guess there might

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<v Speaker 3>be some musical entertainment out in that area whatever, but

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<v Speaker 3>there's you're not watching a game, You're not well, you're

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<v Speaker 3>watching players being picked on a TV screen and it

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<v Speaker 3>becomes a big festive party.

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<v Speaker 1>Unless you're lucky enough to get close enough to the

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<v Speaker 1>stage and you can see the guys.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, you're still watching players getting picked and walking on stage. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, and the entertainment value is through the roof.

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<v Speaker 3>That's because people love to party and I read right,

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<v Speaker 3>looking for an event and this is going to be a.

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<v Speaker 1>Drive destination because they don't have enough hotels for everybody to.

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<v Speaker 3>Show up and stay.

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<v Speaker 1>You can stay in Appleton because that's where the cowboys

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<v Speaker 1>use to stay until.

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<v Speaker 3>And how far as Appleton from Green Bay.

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<v Speaker 1>That's about a forty five minute drive something like that.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a great little time and I love it.

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<v Speaker 3>Standing for Worth and going to a game in Frisco.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, you have you have a like a beach

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<v Speaker 4>out there somewhere right in there there's a river a bay.

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<v Speaker 2>Ye be Well, let me say this God I was

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<v Speaker 2>I was young.

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<v Speaker 3>Did you ever play there?

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<v Speaker 4>I played there, but I did an event there and

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<v Speaker 4>we had some type of parade. I was one of

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<v Speaker 4>the younger guys there and I was there with some

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<v Speaker 4>Hall of famous and man, they were just older guys.

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<v Speaker 4>They were just having so much fun and they would

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<v Speaker 4>just relax. And I recall going to a bay area

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<v Speaker 4>around with some water and I remember how clear and

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<v Speaker 4>beautiful that water.

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<v Speaker 3>The water was.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, what was I there? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 4>And I remember I put my feet in the water

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<v Speaker 4>and it was really clear. Yeah, it was really clear. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>you could see your feet and I was like, wow,

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<v Speaker 4>what you know? And I remember we had done a parade.

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<v Speaker 4>It was some type of parade that we were in,

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<v Speaker 4>and you know.

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<v Speaker 1>Man, that was You know who's making out like bandits?

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<v Speaker 1>Is the people that own houses in that yhood? Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>because they're renting them out.

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<v Speaker 2>Here because you go through r Yeah, you go through there.

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<v Speaker 1>Is called.

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<v Speaker 3>The people going to get let's get to the draft.

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<v Speaker 3>Why are we talking about this? And so I'm they're

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<v Speaker 3>probably doing what I'm doing. Okay, I'll play along with

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<v Speaker 3>this conversation and I'll got my map out and I'm

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<v Speaker 3>looked at Okay. I looked at Green Bay. Yeah, it's

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<v Speaker 3>right there on some water, and sure enough it's Green Bay.

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<v Speaker 3>It's Lake Michigan on the other side of that little

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<v Speaker 3>peninsula there. Okay, we got that settled. Now let's talk draft.

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<v Speaker 3>Oshkosh is nearby too. I think we stayed there one year.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>We stayed south because there. I don't know why we

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<v Speaker 1>weren't in Appleton, but we kind of stayed off the

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<v Speaker 1>off the highway. Okay, so ready, Now have you sold

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<v Speaker 1>the big green notebook?

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<v Speaker 2>Ye?

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<v Speaker 3>Speaking of Green the big Green No, No, it's not

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<v Speaker 3>for sale. I mean we sell Sale Jones a big

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<v Speaker 3>green notebook. It is for sale, Okay.

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<v Speaker 2>I know some people put out big money for that book.

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<v Speaker 3>That's right.

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<v Speaker 2>It can be sold. It can be sold.

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<v Speaker 1>Except the part that has a seven round draft.

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<v Speaker 3>Which featured two trades, two trades and ty wait five

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<v Speaker 3>top one picks and two quarterbacks in it. See when

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<v Speaker 3>you trade down, then you can make luxury picks. And

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<v Speaker 3>I'm concerned about the backup quarterback situation on this team.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm also concerned about the developmental quarterback situation.

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<v Speaker 1>We should have spent more time finding a veteran quarterback

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<v Speaker 1>that they know.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, there's only one left out there, and that's Carson Wentz.

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<v Speaker 3>So now we've got we're going to the draft. No problem.

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<v Speaker 3>I got no problem with Carson Wentz. CJ. Bethard would

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<v Speaker 3>be another one. You think you can find a rookie quarterback,

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<v Speaker 3>there's Desmond More. I think out there.

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<v Speaker 1>Find a rookie quarterback in the fourth round that can

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<v Speaker 1>win you thirteen games.

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<v Speaker 3>There's not a fourth round pick, mickey, And so we're

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<v Speaker 3>going to go either the third.

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<v Speaker 4>Or the fifth round. You did that.

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<v Speaker 1>One year maybe if my memory about nine years ago.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm concerned about getting a quarterback in here and developed

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<v Speaker 3>in time for the next time that a contract comes up.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, I'm worried.

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<v Speaker 3>You worried about week three? Well, it's exactly right. And

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<v Speaker 3>in the meantime, if you get a good enough quarterback,

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<v Speaker 3>he might be ready. Well no, he might be able

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<v Speaker 3>to at least do a little something. But I don't

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<v Speaker 3>think we.

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<v Speaker 2>Have that right now. All right, that would be a

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<v Speaker 2>cost and wins. Yeah. Right, So.

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<v Speaker 3>You've got three legal pads in front of you. Where

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<v Speaker 3>would you like to start?

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<v Speaker 1>Where did I?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, I know what I wanted to do? So what

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<v Speaker 3>about this?

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<v Speaker 1>I know what you your predictions were for draft picks.

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<v Speaker 3>They weren't predictions. Oh it was like my picks. They're

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<v Speaker 3>not predictions of what the Cowboys are going to do.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's let's do this options. So, first option would be

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<v Speaker 1>you're not enthused with what's there at twelve, or there's

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<v Speaker 1>so much there at twelve, you could trade back.

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<v Speaker 2>What'd you do it?

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<v Speaker 3>And the reason for trading back, in my opinion, there

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<v Speaker 3>you you can go every position on this team, including quarterback,

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<v Speaker 3>and there is a need on this team. Okay, they've

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<v Speaker 3>done what they've can do as far as free agency,

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<v Speaker 3>but when you look not only at twenty twenty five,

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<v Speaker 3>but also twenty twenty six and beyond, when you look

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<v Speaker 3>at the number of players or in the last year

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<v Speaker 3>of their contracts, whatever, there is a need every position

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<v Speaker 3>on the team.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, so you.

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<v Speaker 3>Want The reason I bring that up is if you

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<v Speaker 3>trade down and pick up, say a third round pick,

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<v Speaker 3>then you've got four top one hundred picks instead of three.

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<v Speaker 3>Right or in the case of this team, right now,

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<v Speaker 3>they've got three top one hundred and forty eight picks

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<v Speaker 3>because they don't have a fourth round pick. Their next

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<v Speaker 3>pick after the third round is at one forty nine.

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<v Speaker 1>How far would you feel safe dropping back?

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<v Speaker 3>I think from twelve. I don't think there's a I

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<v Speaker 3>don't think unless there's a surprise where there's one of

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<v Speaker 3>the top prospects for some reason slives. I don't think

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<v Speaker 3>there's a whole lot of difference between the guy you're

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<v Speaker 3>gonna get at number twelve and the guy you're gonna

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<v Speaker 3>get at number twenty two.

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<v Speaker 2>So that was gonna say twenty.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't want to fall back past nineteen. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>want to get to twenty. I would rather go to fifteen.

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<v Speaker 2>So, okay, we're talking this.

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<v Speaker 3>But every every team, would you drop back?

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<v Speaker 2>I would drop back.

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<v Speaker 4>I would simply because we need so many players. We

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<v Speaker 4>need a player in every position. Oay, we were looking

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<v Speaker 4>for one particular player, then I wouldn't. Okay, okay, let

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<v Speaker 4>me wait on that guy.

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<v Speaker 2>He's wait.

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<v Speaker 4>We got an agreement, we know what everybody's gonna do.

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<v Speaker 4>Was set for a boom. We did it job. We'

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<v Speaker 4>all doing everybody high five.

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<v Speaker 3>All right.

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<v Speaker 1>So having said that, if you got to twelve, is

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<v Speaker 1>there a go ahead?

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<v Speaker 3>One other thing?

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<v Speaker 2>All right?

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<v Speaker 3>It's a difference. Okay, you're if you dropped to fifteen.

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<v Speaker 3>If you look at the trade valued chart, okay, and

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<v Speaker 3>I'm reading off the rich Hill modified trade value chart,

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<v Speaker 3>the difference in points from going from twelve to fifteen,

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<v Speaker 3>you're basically you're getting a fourth round draft pick back

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<v Speaker 3>to move down three spots, that's right. And so if

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<v Speaker 3>you move down to eighteen, I'm looking at the difference

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<v Speaker 3>in points here you're looking at to let me see

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<v Speaker 3>three forty seven, eighteen's to eighty forty seven and third

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<v Speaker 3>sixty you're looking at a third round pickback.

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<v Speaker 5>So if you go to.

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<v Speaker 3>Fifteen, it's a fourth round pick. If you go to eighteen,

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<v Speaker 3>it's a third round.

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<v Speaker 1>I got to have a third if I moved, So you.

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<v Speaker 3>Have to move back to eighteen. Yeah, seventeen eighteen so far.

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<v Speaker 1>I've got to do something and give them twenty twenty

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<v Speaker 1>six fifth round two.

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<v Speaker 3>Now, if you do what the Big Green Notebook did

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<v Speaker 3>and move back to twenty or twenty two, you can

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<v Speaker 3>get a second round pickch too far. Now, the problem

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<v Speaker 3>is you also have to have someone who wants to

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<v Speaker 3>move up for something they give up, right and everybody's draft.

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<v Speaker 3>That's because of the quarterback situation in this draft. You're

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<v Speaker 3>there's probably not going to be teams that are going

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<v Speaker 3>to be moving very far.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, so if you if something falls to twelve that

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<v Speaker 1>you say, I got to have that.

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<v Speaker 3>Guy, who would take him?

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<v Speaker 1>If let's put it this way, if for some reason

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<v Speaker 1>and I don't think it's going to happen Ashton.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, I run to the podium and write, yes, if

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<v Speaker 3>Ashton genty, I don't think genty will get past the

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<v Speaker 3>Raiders at six. It's the way it sounds.

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<v Speaker 1>And possibly New Orleans at nine.

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<v Speaker 3>Nine. No, they're taking sud at nine, right, that's what

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<v Speaker 3>everyone says to Orleans, That's what everyone said, he doesn't

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<v Speaker 3>have That's another topic.

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<v Speaker 1>What's happening with what's happening? Okay, So now if you

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<v Speaker 1>get to twelve and you're going to stay there and

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<v Speaker 1>Genti's not there, would you still take a running back?

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<v Speaker 2>I would not. You would not.

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<v Speaker 3>I would not because there's a deep running back class

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<v Speaker 3>and you can get a running back in the second

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<v Speaker 3>or third d so you would go with a different position.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, what about if you decide not to do that,

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<v Speaker 1>would you take a wide receiver there?

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<v Speaker 3>You could take a wide receiver.

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<v Speaker 1>There, And it seems like the top ones to go

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<v Speaker 1>there would be McMillen, Golden, the Buka, and.

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<v Speaker 3>Burden and I would probably in that order for a

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<v Speaker 3>lot of For the so called experts out there.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, they have them, well the big Green Notebook.

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<v Speaker 3>I out of those, I like Abuka m hmm. And

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<v Speaker 3>one of the reasons I like Abuka is and that

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<v Speaker 3>there's no knock against the other guys. But I love

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<v Speaker 3>he is. He might be the safest pick in this

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<v Speaker 3>draft in terms of being reliable, and he is a

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<v Speaker 3>culture setter in the locker room. His value goes beyond

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<v Speaker 3>what he does on the football field, and that's what

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<v Speaker 3>I love about a Mecca Abuka.

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<v Speaker 1>Now I saw one thing about him that says he's

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<v Speaker 1>a slot receiver is that it I don't see that

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<v Speaker 1>he can do both inside. I don't know why he

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<v Speaker 1>wouldn't be able to, Okay, I mean he's six one

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<v Speaker 1>pounds and McMillan has basically got to be the outside.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean he's playing at Ohio State where they got

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<v Speaker 3>all those receivers who can play on the outside. So

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<v Speaker 3>somebody's got to play on the slot. So he's been

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<v Speaker 3>playing in the slot. That doesn't mean he can't play outside.

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<v Speaker 3>He is from a character standpoint, he's Terry McLaurin out

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<v Speaker 3>of Ohio State and is obviously doing what he's doing

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<v Speaker 3>at Washington. All right, he is a one of the

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<v Speaker 3>safest picks you could have in this draft.

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<v Speaker 1>I think now Golden and Burden can do inside and

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<v Speaker 1>outside in my opinion. Okay, McMillan's just outside, right, and

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<v Speaker 1>he's he's not a speed guy.

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<v Speaker 3>Is he ran a four to four Okay, I mean

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<v Speaker 3>that's four four five four eight.

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<v Speaker 1>But he's kind of the bigger type.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, he's receiver, yeah, okay, I mean there's there's advantages

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<v Speaker 3>to what he can do, and especially on this Cowboys

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<v Speaker 3>team that you're lacking in that big wide receiver.

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<v Speaker 2>Right.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, they traded for one Jonathan Mingo.

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<v Speaker 1>So he's more of a I've just went right by. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>he's more of a MARII Cooper type receiver.

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<v Speaker 3>He's more of He's he's the comp is Mike Evans. Okay,

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<v Speaker 3>I mean the.

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<v Speaker 1>So what you get there has to be able to

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<v Speaker 1>kind of compliment what seed.

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<v Speaker 3>Which, by the way, I'm glad you mentioned Amari Cooper.

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<v Speaker 3>Here's the other thing, the factor in Everson. They're looking

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<v Speaker 3>at the wide receivers. Taking a wide receiver in this draft,

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<v Speaker 3>there are about four free agent wide receivers out there

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<v Speaker 3>who you could sign after the draft if you don't

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<v Speaker 3>get the wide receiver that you want during the draft.

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<v Speaker 3>So as you're filling these obvious needs on the team

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<v Speaker 3>and replacing Brandon Cooks on the roster, well, there's Tyler

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<v Speaker 3>Lockett still out there. There's Amory Cooper still out there.

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<v Speaker 3>There's Keenan Allen still out there. There's Tyler Boyd still

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<v Speaker 3>out there. So there are there are a handful of

0:17:46.920 --> 0:17:50.159
<v Speaker 3>wide receivers who you can take care of that immediate

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<v Speaker 3>need and probably that well for sure that wide receiver

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<v Speaker 3>if they still have it, they still have their legs, which,

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<v Speaker 3>assuming they do, they're going to give you more this

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<v Speaker 3>year than what a rookie wide.

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<v Speaker 2>Receiver, it's no doubt about.

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<v Speaker 4>And these are quarterback friendly wide receiver right just called out.

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<v Speaker 4>These guys know how to work the slot.

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<v Speaker 2>I think all.

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<v Speaker 4>Three we know Amari Cooper, we know what he can

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<v Speaker 4>do and how he changes teams from the wide receiver position.

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<v Speaker 3>That's why I think you have to look beyond the

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<v Speaker 3>immediate need this year. There are guys out there who

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<v Speaker 3>can fill those immediate needs and they're not going to

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<v Speaker 3>cost that much, and so you have to look okay,

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<v Speaker 3>And that's one of the reasons I like Abuka is

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<v Speaker 3>because you're setting this is a guy who's going to

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<v Speaker 3>impact things for years here and beyond football.

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<v Speaker 4>Well that's true too, But once again, going back to

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<v Speaker 4>those veteran receivers, I can't recall any one of those

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<v Speaker 4>guys having locker room problems or having issues with their quarterback.

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<v Speaker 1>About it's got to be about me.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, I don't recall any of them. If I was

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<v Speaker 4>gonna say anybody, maybe Kingdon Allen and that would just

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<v Speaker 4>be you know, spitballer. I have no idea what his

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<v Speaker 4>relationship is, but it's nothing that has come out that

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<v Speaker 4>where you could say it was a detriment to that

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<v Speaker 4>team and he was a problem in the locker room

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<v Speaker 4>either one of those especially three of those four guys.

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<v Speaker 1>It never is a problem until some of the immediate

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<v Speaker 1>ask are you not getting the ball or not?

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<v Speaker 3>And consider Tyler Lockett. He's been with this coach and

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<v Speaker 3>had great years with this coach in Seattle.

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<v Speaker 1>And Amari wasn't a problem here. Okay, So now what

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<v Speaker 1>happens if there is one of the top cornerbacks there

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<v Speaker 1>at twelfth, would you.

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<v Speaker 4>I think you need a cornerback more than you do

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<v Speaker 4>a receiver in regards to getting it in the draft, Okay,

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<v Speaker 4>because it getting I don't know what cornerbacks are out

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<v Speaker 4>there that can impact the team as well as the

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<v Speaker 4>wide receiver there out there, they can impact you.

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<v Speaker 3>The guys that are that are projected as veterans, I

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<v Speaker 3>mean the guy, okay, but the guy and Stephan Gilmour

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<v Speaker 3>is one of the veterans. It's that out there is

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<v Speaker 3>out there there. Tredevius White just got signed by Buffalo.

0:20:13.400 --> 0:20:16.520
<v Speaker 3>He was one that was out there. Sante Samuel has

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<v Speaker 3>an injury issue that has to be worked out to

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<v Speaker 3>see whether he's good to go or not.

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<v Speaker 2>So.

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<v Speaker 3>But there are some cornerbacks out there.

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<v Speaker 2>But I wouldn't say that they're the Calibo. No, No,

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<v Speaker 2>they're not. I'm just talking exactly right.

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<v Speaker 3>But when you look at the draft there there are

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<v Speaker 3>a couple of cornerbacks who are projected that would be Okay.

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<v Speaker 3>Cowboys will get a pat on the back if they

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<v Speaker 3>take Will Johnson of Michigan with a twelfth pick or

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<v Speaker 3>John A. Barron from Texas any other cornerback, they'll they'll

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<v Speaker 3>be ripped for Oh, that's too high to take them.

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<v Speaker 3>But Trey him is too high that he's projected in

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<v Speaker 3>the second round. Ye whatever, but that doesn't mean anything.

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<v Speaker 3>If you love a player, man, take that dude, take them,

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<v Speaker 3>and because you're take you're only taking them too high.

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<v Speaker 3>If he wouldn't be there the next time you pick

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<v Speaker 3>at number forty, or if he would be there the

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<v Speaker 3>next time you pick at forty four in the second round.

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<v Speaker 3>Otherwise you're not taking too high. So you'd love to

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<v Speaker 3>trade down and get better value, but sometimes you've got

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<v Speaker 3>to have a trading partner. But Maxwell Harriston is more

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<v Speaker 3>of a slot, but he can play outside to Kentucky

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<v Speaker 3>is another guy that would be a late first second

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<v Speaker 3>round guy. But Amos from Ole Miss is another one.

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<v Speaker 3>Amos started his career at Louisiana Lafayette played three years.

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<v Speaker 3>There was actually a backup at Alabama for one year

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<v Speaker 3>and then his last year started and played well at

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<v Speaker 3>Ole Miss. But Alabama he played behind kool Aid, McKinstry,

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<v Speaker 3>and Terry and Arnold who were top draft picks.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, so I read this about Will Johnson that there

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<v Speaker 1>was some concern about his long term knee long term

0:22:01.000 --> 0:22:05.240
<v Speaker 1>long knee injury. Oh, knee currently not a problem, but

0:22:05.280 --> 0:22:08.200
<v Speaker 1>there could be something long term.

0:22:08.280 --> 0:22:11.920
<v Speaker 3>What raises the red flag. Now supposedly he didn't run,

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<v Speaker 3>but he didn't run at the Combine due to a

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<v Speaker 3>hamstring injury and he only played six games last year.

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<v Speaker 3>He had a turf toe injury, torn ligament, turf toe injury,

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<v Speaker 3>and he and so the problem where he was likely

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<v Speaker 3>in the eyes of the analyst falling is because there's

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<v Speaker 3>no time on him because he hasn't run.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, can't they watch him play?

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, but you watch him play now if there is

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<v Speaker 3>a medical issue that would drop him for sure, we're

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<v Speaker 3>talking where would Will Johnson from Michigan six two and

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<v Speaker 3>ninety four pounds, and he looks the part he is.

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<v Speaker 3>He's really good.

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<v Speaker 1>So and I like Baron, I don't. I mean, I

0:23:05.520 --> 0:23:10.520
<v Speaker 1>saw him work out and I was sold and I

0:23:10.600 --> 0:23:13.680
<v Speaker 1>listened to him talk. Oh yeah, he's got more confidence

0:23:13.760 --> 0:23:14.360
<v Speaker 1>than Everson.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

0:23:15.800 --> 0:23:20.919
<v Speaker 3>And and so he is from the characters standpoint, and

0:23:20.960 --> 0:23:24.880
<v Speaker 3>that he's he's like a Buka in terms of all

0:23:24.920 --> 0:23:25.399
<v Speaker 3>that stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>So see, and if for people for us to understand

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<v Speaker 1>why we kind of pointed out the cornerback position. I

0:23:38.359 --> 0:23:41.520
<v Speaker 1>got concerns that Trayvon Diggs is not going to be

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<v Speaker 1>ready to start the season.

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<v Speaker 3>You've got multiple needs at cornerback that you got not

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<v Speaker 3>only Jordan Lewis, but also you lost him.

0:23:49.960 --> 0:23:56.399
<v Speaker 1>You got Dran Bland and and don't tell me career.

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<v Speaker 3>Is the guy that they traded for. And you got

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<v Speaker 3>Kaylin Carson.

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<v Speaker 2>Who tell me about Elam? Who is this guy?

0:24:04.880 --> 0:24:08.520
<v Speaker 3>Kyer Elam was a that's what sopposed to be checking.

0:24:09.480 --> 0:24:12.000
<v Speaker 3>Kyer Elam is the one they traded for. He's not

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<v Speaker 3>in the draft, but he was a first round draft

0:24:14.600 --> 0:24:17.520
<v Speaker 3>pick of the Bills in twenty twenty two and basically

0:24:17.720 --> 0:24:20.520
<v Speaker 3>got beat out by a sixth round pick, Christian Benford

0:24:20.560 --> 0:24:25.080
<v Speaker 3>from that same draft. So he was available here going

0:24:25.080 --> 0:24:27.359
<v Speaker 3>into the last year of his contract, and the Cowboys

0:24:28.160 --> 0:24:34.160
<v Speaker 3>traded for him. Last year, he played in thirteen games,

0:24:34.200 --> 0:24:41.760
<v Speaker 3>started four for Buffalo, and so he's and in his career,

0:24:42.080 --> 0:24:46.520
<v Speaker 3>he's got twelve starts in three seasons with two interceptions.

0:24:48.440 --> 0:24:49.040
<v Speaker 3>Still young.

0:24:49.520 --> 0:24:50.240
<v Speaker 2>Just he's young.

0:24:50.280 --> 0:24:54.040
<v Speaker 3>He'll turn twenty four May fifth, so as so he's

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<v Speaker 3>the same age as in fact he may be let

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<v Speaker 3>me look, he is seven months older than Judd A.

0:25:02.160 --> 0:25:05.960
<v Speaker 3>Barron out of Texas. Baron turns twenty four in December

0:25:06.600 --> 0:25:09.520
<v Speaker 3>and Kyrie Elam turns twenty four next month.

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<v Speaker 1>Because as it stands right now, without knowing about Diggs,

0:25:15.359 --> 0:25:18.640
<v Speaker 1>you would have to say, Cayln Carson has to really

0:25:18.680 --> 0:25:21.400
<v Speaker 1>step up and get back to playing the way he

0:25:21.440 --> 0:25:24.680
<v Speaker 1>did in training camp and early in the season before

0:25:24.720 --> 0:25:25.439
<v Speaker 1>he got injured.

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<v Speaker 3>You would think that, even regardless of what happens in

0:25:29.200 --> 0:25:32.280
<v Speaker 3>the draft, that they're looking at another corner veteran guy

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<v Speaker 3>bring in here after the.

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<v Speaker 1>Draft, because my concern about Diggs is I'd like to

0:25:39.080 --> 0:25:44.119
<v Speaker 1>see him out here rehabbing. He's doing it on his

0:25:44.119 --> 0:25:45.840
<v Speaker 1>own again like he did his ACL.

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<v Speaker 3>That concerns me.

0:25:49.320 --> 0:25:50.480
<v Speaker 1>Why wouldn't you do it here?

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<v Speaker 2>So how did he do it with his ACL?

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<v Speaker 3>Well?

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<v Speaker 1>Not as good as I mean, it took him a

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<v Speaker 1>while to get going.

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<v Speaker 4>Do you think it made a difference he was here

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<v Speaker 4>and I'm I'm being Devil's avay, I'm being a jerk here.

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<v Speaker 2>I just because Yeah, I don't know what you know.

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<v Speaker 2>I wish things.

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<v Speaker 4>I wish they had a better connection, yeah, between the two.

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<v Speaker 4>But I got to see what happens with this because

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<v Speaker 4>you know, right now, all we've seen is a lot

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<v Speaker 4>of negativity when it comes to.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, it's almost like it's almost like, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>they do a medical rechecks on draft picks. They go

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<v Speaker 3>back to indian Acay, like if there's a question about

0:26:30.600 --> 0:26:33.600
<v Speaker 3>a player's injury. When they always have to combine in

0:26:33.640 --> 0:26:37.080
<v Speaker 3>late February, they'll do a medical recheck. They fly them

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<v Speaker 3>into Indianapolis to do it again a week before the

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<v Speaker 3>draft or so it would have happened this past week.

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<v Speaker 3>It's almost like you'd like to do it with your

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<v Speaker 3>own veteran players. And in some ways it happens when

0:26:47.240 --> 0:26:50.080
<v Speaker 3>they show up for the voluntary off season preak. It

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<v Speaker 3>can happen that way. But if you don't have them,

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<v Speaker 3>if they don't agree to it, whatever, you like a

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<v Speaker 3>medical recheck right now, see where Trayvon is in his REHAC.

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<v Speaker 4>You would think the January that they're paying him, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>I get that part of it.

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<v Speaker 1>He's also got a workout bonus you can earn if

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<v Speaker 1>he's here in the off season.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, well that that hadn't begun yet.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, well, I would imagine it began last week when

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<v Speaker 1>they start.

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<v Speaker 3>It wasted last Monday.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, but you're you're just you're just talking about appearances

0:27:23.359 --> 0:27:27.160
<v Speaker 4>on the field out there, Yeah, doing work, signing in whatever,

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<v Speaker 4>documenting it. I'm sure he can get. What are the

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<v Speaker 4>maximum amount days that you can have? What's the maximum? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know what's because in the Valley Ranch we had,

0:27:39.880 --> 0:27:42.280
<v Speaker 4>you know, you had like I think a total of

0:27:42.320 --> 0:27:44.240
<v Speaker 4>forty five workouts that you could have had in the

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<v Speaker 4>off season or something like that, and I made like twelve.

0:27:49.480 --> 0:27:53.639
<v Speaker 4>So just think about that necessarily depending on what you

0:27:53.720 --> 0:27:59.040
<v Speaker 4>got going on. It's not necessarily uh you know, warranted

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<v Speaker 4>a mandate or whatever.

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<v Speaker 1>Is what about financially, what would it be worth you

0:28:05.320 --> 0:28:07.920
<v Speaker 1>to make sure you were here working out if it

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<v Speaker 1>was today.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, then ain't thirty five thousand? I could take that

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<v Speaker 4>five thousand. So that's what I was dealing with now.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, he was.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, He's like, now we're probably in at least one hundred.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I don't know if I turned my nose up

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<v Speaker 3>on that.

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<v Speaker 2>That's what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 3>All right, when we come back here on mixshots, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>Man, that's how you do it, all right.

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<v Speaker 3>We're talking possibilities in the first raft, right, and we

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<v Speaker 3>looked at the wide receiver running cornerbag running bag.

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<v Speaker 1>So one more on the cornerback thing. And I still

0:31:56.720 --> 0:31:58.920
<v Speaker 1>think you got to keep it in mind. We talked

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<v Speaker 1>about it last week. Uh the cornerback.

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<v Speaker 3>Revel.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, yeah, that's my guy the.

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<v Speaker 1>Second probably second round, and Doctor Cooper did the ACL

0:32:18.400 --> 0:32:20.880
<v Speaker 1>so they know all about him and they've done that

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<v Speaker 1>before or with guys in the second round.

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<v Speaker 4>And see the thing about any group, whatever group you have,

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<v Speaker 4>the why the defensive back that you want. You want

0:32:33.200 --> 0:32:37.600
<v Speaker 4>someone that has a mentality. Okay, you got guys. You

0:32:37.640 --> 0:32:40.360
<v Speaker 4>know the guy from Michigan, he's you know, Will Johnson's amazing.

0:32:40.400 --> 0:32:42.320
<v Speaker 4>He's got the size. I think that was about my

0:32:42.400 --> 0:32:43.880
<v Speaker 4>size when I came I'm sure he's got a lot

0:32:43.920 --> 0:32:46.000
<v Speaker 4>more muscle than what I had when I came out.

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<v Speaker 4>But these guys are all physically imposing and all of that.

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<v Speaker 2>I get that.

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<v Speaker 4>But besides Travis Hunter, you just don't see DB's with

0:32:56.400 --> 0:32:59.720
<v Speaker 4>that mentality. Travis Hunter has that mentality because he's a

0:32:59.760 --> 0:33:00.840
<v Speaker 4>white receiver.

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<v Speaker 2>As well as a defensive back.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, I was Drew Pearson fans, so I thought

0:33:05.120 --> 0:33:07.320
<v Speaker 4>I was a wide receiver growing up. So every time

0:33:07.320 --> 0:33:09.560
<v Speaker 4>the ball was in the air, I'm thinking it's.

0:33:09.480 --> 0:33:15.920
<v Speaker 3>Mine and that's a Trayvon Diggs mentality. That's what I'm

0:33:15.960 --> 0:33:17.040
<v Speaker 3>looking for in these corners.

0:33:17.080 --> 0:33:19.320
<v Speaker 2>That's why I like you, guy, Rebel. That's why I

0:33:19.440 --> 0:33:19.760
<v Speaker 2>like him.

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<v Speaker 4>I saw the video, the video that you gotta showed

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<v Speaker 4>me last week. There's a mentality that you can see

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<v Speaker 4>as they cover. They're not just going for the cover

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<v Speaker 4>of the knockdown of the heat and not going just

0:33:31.760 --> 0:33:34.479
<v Speaker 4>to strap it down the seatbelt or whatever that crap is.

0:33:36.640 --> 0:33:40.640
<v Speaker 4>He's going that he's looking for the ball. The wide

0:33:40.640 --> 0:33:44.200
<v Speaker 4>receiver is no consequence to him. That's the mentality that

0:33:44.280 --> 0:33:46.520
<v Speaker 4>we have to have here. And on one guy's coming here.

0:33:46.560 --> 0:33:48.320
<v Speaker 4>Oh he can cover. He's physical and all that.

0:33:48.600 --> 0:33:48.840
<v Speaker 2>Great.

0:33:48.880 --> 0:33:52.520
<v Speaker 4>Physicality is one thing, but intelligence and intellect is another thing.

0:33:52.840 --> 0:33:55.160
<v Speaker 4>I want you going after the ball when that ball

0:33:55.280 --> 0:33:58.120
<v Speaker 4>is in the air for you, because when it is

0:33:58.160 --> 0:34:01.200
<v Speaker 4>in the air, it is yours. Is not the knockdown.

0:34:01.600 --> 0:34:04.840
<v Speaker 4>You're going for the I don't want to call it an interception.

0:34:05.040 --> 0:34:08.080
<v Speaker 4>You're just going for the ball. And that's his mentality.

0:34:08.160 --> 0:34:12.760
<v Speaker 1>And all acls are not equal, right, So the Cowboys

0:34:12.800 --> 0:34:16.640
<v Speaker 1>will know everything they needed that scar about his right

0:34:17.239 --> 0:34:20.840
<v Speaker 1>because and they've done that before in the second round.

0:34:20.880 --> 0:34:24.200
<v Speaker 1>So that's that's a thought at the cornerback position.

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<v Speaker 2>I want to get that in before we Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>So my next position was defensive end at number twelve.

0:34:33.760 --> 0:34:36.719
<v Speaker 1>And I think Bill has a favorite.

0:34:36.920 --> 0:34:38.960
<v Speaker 3>I do I have a favorite, and he's from Georgia.

0:34:39.120 --> 0:34:43.239
<v Speaker 3>There's two defensive ends from Georgia. Jalen Walker's one of

0:34:43.280 --> 0:34:47.040
<v Speaker 3>them who was an off the ball linebacker and so

0:34:47.080 --> 0:34:49.680
<v Speaker 3>he projects is either an off ball linebacker or an

0:34:49.800 --> 0:34:52.880
<v Speaker 3>edge rusher and kind of in the mold of a

0:34:52.920 --> 0:34:57.680
<v Speaker 3>Michael Parsons. And both these guys are really young. I

0:34:57.719 --> 0:35:01.680
<v Speaker 3>think Walker will be gone. He's from carol and uh yeah,

0:35:01.719 --> 0:35:05.040
<v Speaker 3>he'll go. I mean Carolina picks at number eight and

0:35:05.280 --> 0:35:10.120
<v Speaker 3>the Natives are going to be really mad if they

0:35:10.160 --> 0:35:13.239
<v Speaker 3>if the Panthers pass on him. But the guy that

0:35:13.320 --> 0:35:16.719
<v Speaker 3>I like as well is Mikeel Williams. And when I

0:35:16.760 --> 0:35:19.879
<v Speaker 3>look at and he's from Georgia. He'll turn twenty one

0:35:19.920 --> 0:35:23.320
<v Speaker 3>in June. He's twenty years old. He is sixty five

0:35:23.480 --> 0:35:27.360
<v Speaker 3>two hundred and sixty five pounds with thirty four and

0:35:27.400 --> 0:35:31.520
<v Speaker 3>a half inch arms. He play he but he is

0:35:31.600 --> 0:35:36.040
<v Speaker 3>a Georgia bull dog. You you the last week of

0:35:36.080 --> 0:35:38.520
<v Speaker 3>the week before ever since that what we need in

0:35:38.560 --> 0:35:41.480
<v Speaker 3>this draft. We need a dog, right, you.

0:35:41.400 --> 0:35:42.960
<v Speaker 2>Know right, that's right.

0:35:43.040 --> 0:35:44.879
<v Speaker 3>So I went looking for a dog.

0:35:44.960 --> 0:35:45.920
<v Speaker 2>Were looking for it.

0:35:46.160 --> 0:35:50.520
<v Speaker 3>And the way that I look at at what the

0:35:50.560 --> 0:35:54.160
<v Speaker 3>Cowboys have lost on their defensive line and what they've

0:35:54.200 --> 0:35:58.960
<v Speaker 3>added this off season. Okay, think about what they've lost,

0:35:59.080 --> 0:36:02.360
<v Speaker 3>a couple of defense of tackles. But on the Chauncey

0:36:02.400 --> 0:36:06.920
<v Speaker 3>Golston signs with the Giants, DeMarcus Lawrence signs with the Seahawks.

0:36:07.640 --> 0:36:12.000
<v Speaker 3>What they've added are Solomon Thomas is an inside guy

0:36:12.320 --> 0:36:15.799
<v Speaker 3>in a rotation defensive tackle, but he can play at

0:36:15.840 --> 0:36:20.440
<v Speaker 3>times on the outside in a pass rush situation. We've

0:36:20.440 --> 0:36:26.120
<v Speaker 3>got Dante Fowler, who is a he is a speed

0:36:26.200 --> 0:36:29.000
<v Speaker 3>rusher and is another one year and he's on a

0:36:29.000 --> 0:36:32.800
<v Speaker 3>one year contract, six million dollar deal. Uh, They're getting

0:36:32.840 --> 0:36:35.880
<v Speaker 3>Sam Williams back. And Sam so far in his career,

0:36:36.000 --> 0:36:39.520
<v Speaker 3>has shown that he is a sub package edge rusher.

0:36:40.400 --> 0:36:43.440
<v Speaker 3>We haven't seen him in a position to defend the run.

0:36:43.360 --> 0:36:46.040
<v Speaker 1>And they were hoping last year he was that, but

0:36:46.160 --> 0:36:47.520
<v Speaker 1>he never got a chance to show.

0:36:47.560 --> 0:36:50.840
<v Speaker 3>And where I think Michael Williams sets him apart. And

0:36:50.840 --> 0:36:53.840
<v Speaker 3>there's a lot of really good defensive ends, edge rushers

0:36:53.960 --> 0:36:56.839
<v Speaker 3>that going from the first through the fourth round in

0:36:56.880 --> 0:36:59.759
<v Speaker 3>this draft. But where I think Williams sets him apart.

0:36:59.800 --> 0:37:01.759
<v Speaker 3>And in mind when you look at his tape that

0:37:02.040 --> 0:37:04.280
<v Speaker 3>for much of the year last year he was playing

0:37:04.320 --> 0:37:08.240
<v Speaker 3>on a high ankle sprain and he missed several games

0:37:08.239 --> 0:37:11.040
<v Speaker 3>because of it. Came back and he couldn't practice during

0:37:11.040 --> 0:37:13.239
<v Speaker 3>the week. He would just play, which says a little

0:37:13.239 --> 0:37:16.560
<v Speaker 3>bit about us toughness as well. But he defends the

0:37:16.640 --> 0:37:20.000
<v Speaker 3>run and he's got the ability to get to the quarterback.

0:37:20.320 --> 0:37:23.120
<v Speaker 3>And I think I think when he walks in the

0:37:23.160 --> 0:37:26.520
<v Speaker 3>door here, he would be the best run defender of

0:37:26.560 --> 0:37:28.879
<v Speaker 3>what they've got on their defensive line. And I think

0:37:28.920 --> 0:37:31.960
<v Speaker 3>that they have not replayed. My point is I don't

0:37:32.000 --> 0:37:34.920
<v Speaker 3>think they have replaced d Law. And you look back

0:37:34.960 --> 0:37:37.560
<v Speaker 3>at last year when Dee Law went down the fourth

0:37:37.600 --> 0:37:40.080
<v Speaker 3>game of the year. About that same time, they lost

0:37:40.080 --> 0:37:45.799
<v Speaker 3>Parsons for four games. I lost Nielan got hurt during

0:37:45.840 --> 0:37:50.480
<v Speaker 3>that time. But you look at and he was already gone.

0:37:50.840 --> 0:37:54.520
<v Speaker 3>But the loss of DeMarcus Lawrence was huge for this

0:37:54.640 --> 0:37:57.200
<v Speaker 3>team last year. And just think about what he's done

0:37:57.239 --> 0:38:00.520
<v Speaker 3>for the last decade. I think this Michael will Williams,

0:38:01.000 --> 0:38:03.839
<v Speaker 3>he reminds me of Daneil Hunter who came out ten

0:38:03.920 --> 0:38:07.680
<v Speaker 3>years ago. And but he's also got the mentality of

0:38:07.719 --> 0:38:11.120
<v Speaker 3>a DeMarcus Lawrence, and I would I would have no

0:38:11.160 --> 0:38:13.840
<v Speaker 3>problem at all with the Cowboys picking him at number twelve.

0:38:13.640 --> 0:38:16.960
<v Speaker 1>Because the only other thing they did there in the offseason.

0:38:16.760 --> 0:38:20.480
<v Speaker 3>Was Peyton Turner, who is unproven even though it's a

0:38:20.520 --> 0:38:22.960
<v Speaker 3>former first round draft he hasn't gotten on the field,

0:38:23.000 --> 0:38:25.880
<v Speaker 3>but he was like three hundred snaps last year with

0:38:25.920 --> 0:38:26.800
<v Speaker 3>the Saints.

0:38:26.600 --> 0:38:32.480
<v Speaker 1>So defensive end at twelve, you would have no product.

0:38:32.719 --> 0:38:36.000
<v Speaker 3>Yes, right, I think there is still a need there

0:38:36.080 --> 0:38:38.120
<v Speaker 3>despite the fact they've tried to fill it as best

0:38:38.160 --> 0:38:41.880
<v Speaker 3>they can with some pass rushers with the with Dante

0:38:42.000 --> 0:38:43.800
<v Speaker 3>Fowler in free agency.

0:38:44.239 --> 0:38:47.240
<v Speaker 1>See and and and he's probably one of those guys

0:38:47.239 --> 0:38:49.200
<v Speaker 1>someone who's going to say, well, they could trade back

0:38:49.239 --> 0:38:50.560
<v Speaker 1>a few and still get them.

0:38:50.560 --> 0:38:54.440
<v Speaker 3>I've seen, but don't I've seen some people think of

0:38:54.800 --> 0:38:58.280
<v Speaker 3>them as being the second best defensive end of this draft,

0:38:58.719 --> 0:39:02.560
<v Speaker 3>like a fifth pick on their board, and others have

0:39:02.680 --> 0:39:05.480
<v Speaker 3>him twenty second, So who knows.

0:39:05.920 --> 0:39:06.880
<v Speaker 2>See and like.

0:39:08.000 --> 0:39:12.600
<v Speaker 1>I like him more because I've seen the production on

0:39:12.719 --> 0:39:16.960
<v Speaker 1>the field as opposed to the guy from A and M. Right,

0:39:17.200 --> 0:39:19.200
<v Speaker 1>Samar Stewart a workout guy.

0:39:19.600 --> 0:39:22.560
<v Speaker 3>And there's here's another difference. Samar Stewart doesn't have the

0:39:22.560 --> 0:39:25.799
<v Speaker 3>production on the field, but he was just blew out

0:39:25.800 --> 0:39:31.000
<v Speaker 3>the combine right, yes, I mean just his explosion numbers

0:39:31.000 --> 0:39:31.399
<v Speaker 3>are just.

0:39:31.719 --> 0:39:32.319
<v Speaker 2>Through the roof.

0:39:32.600 --> 0:39:37.799
<v Speaker 3>Why didn't he explode? But Michael Williams see see. One

0:39:37.840 --> 0:39:41.960
<v Speaker 3>of the reasons the analysts aren't high on Michael Williams

0:39:42.040 --> 0:39:46.000
<v Speaker 3>is and they're probably scouts in NFL office. They cannot

0:39:46.000 --> 0:39:49.000
<v Speaker 3>stand on the table for Michael Williams because he did

0:39:49.160 --> 0:39:51.200
<v Speaker 3>he has at time, there are no measurables for him.

0:39:51.239 --> 0:39:54.120
<v Speaker 3>I mean, he did a forty at a Georgia pro day.

0:39:55.600 --> 0:39:58.960
<v Speaker 2>Was not just a forty exactly right, exactly.

0:39:58.560 --> 0:40:00.720
<v Speaker 3>And so and one of the reasons as he didn't

0:40:00.920 --> 0:40:03.200
<v Speaker 3>was because their season was so long. He played into

0:40:03.200 --> 0:40:06.560
<v Speaker 3>mid January, and so he wasn't ready yet.

0:40:06.840 --> 0:40:12.200
<v Speaker 4>So when you talked about defensive ends and linebackers can

0:40:12.200 --> 0:40:15.880
<v Speaker 4>be pretty much used the same depending on what side.

0:40:15.719 --> 0:40:18.479
<v Speaker 2>The linebacker's playing. We need a guy.

0:40:18.920 --> 0:40:21.839
<v Speaker 4>If you're talking to replacing DeMarcus Lawrence, then that guy

0:40:21.960 --> 0:40:26.040
<v Speaker 4>has to be run smart and passed rush smart.

0:40:26.640 --> 0:40:28.200
<v Speaker 2>He's got to be able to do both.

0:40:29.000 --> 0:40:31.880
<v Speaker 4>He's got to be able to impact that edge so

0:40:32.040 --> 0:40:35.040
<v Speaker 4>well and then also make a difference when it comes

0:40:35.040 --> 0:40:35.560
<v Speaker 4>to the run.

0:40:36.239 --> 0:40:37.439
<v Speaker 2>Then you want to have that.

0:40:37.360 --> 0:40:41.360
<v Speaker 4>Same push and explosion coming off the edge, off the

0:40:41.480 --> 0:40:43.759
<v Speaker 4>edge and pass. You could also do that with an

0:40:43.760 --> 0:40:47.200
<v Speaker 4>inside linebacker as well, if you've got these guys up

0:40:47.280 --> 0:40:50.239
<v Speaker 4>up front, if we're showing up enough, there have been

0:40:50.280 --> 0:40:54.520
<v Speaker 4>many times when, as with Michael Parsons, a linebacker made

0:40:54.560 --> 0:40:57.879
<v Speaker 4>a difference on this defense. If you can get a

0:40:57.920 --> 0:41:02.719
<v Speaker 4>linebacker that can be a multi talented linebacker with that mentality,

0:41:03.239 --> 0:41:06.040
<v Speaker 4>with that dog that we talked about, if he can

0:41:06.080 --> 0:41:10.000
<v Speaker 4>set that edge as well as run pass rush off

0:41:10.000 --> 0:41:12.279
<v Speaker 4>the edge, that'd be great as well. But also you

0:41:12.360 --> 0:41:16.320
<v Speaker 4>got that inside linebacker, one of those two linebackers being.

0:41:16.120 --> 0:41:20.040
<v Speaker 2>Able to control that that part of his field.

0:41:20.600 --> 0:41:22.800
<v Speaker 4>You're talking about somebody that can make a huge difference

0:41:22.800 --> 0:41:24.160
<v Speaker 4>the way Michael Pawson's did well.

0:41:24.200 --> 0:41:27.759
<v Speaker 3>And they've got a guy that they traded for in

0:41:27.840 --> 0:41:33.120
<v Speaker 3>Kenneth Murray who has those type traits. Now he's played,

0:41:33.440 --> 0:41:36.359
<v Speaker 3>you know, mid linebacker in this league, but you look

0:41:36.400 --> 0:41:38.560
<v Speaker 3>at his traits. He ran a four or five at

0:41:38.560 --> 0:41:43.759
<v Speaker 3>the combine. He's got thirty eight vertical and at six

0:41:43.840 --> 0:41:47.320
<v Speaker 3>two and forty one pounds and he had three and

0:41:47.320 --> 0:41:50.560
<v Speaker 3>a half sacks in fourteen games last year for Tennessee,

0:41:50.800 --> 0:41:53.600
<v Speaker 3>so he was used a little bit getting after the quarterback.

0:41:53.880 --> 0:41:56.279
<v Speaker 1>I would love to know what ibra Flus's plan is

0:41:56.680 --> 0:42:01.080
<v Speaker 1>for Kenneth Murray if he's insider outside and because he's.

0:42:00.920 --> 0:42:04.680
<v Speaker 2>Got thinking like Singletary's. You know, see he was Sam Mills.

0:42:04.320 --> 0:42:08.840
<v Speaker 3>With Overshown overshow he had five sacks last year. And

0:42:08.880 --> 0:42:13.000
<v Speaker 3>see that's what excites me about Kenneth Murray here is

0:42:13.080 --> 0:42:16.239
<v Speaker 3>when Overshown gets back and you pair those guys up,

0:42:17.000 --> 0:42:21.680
<v Speaker 3>and because Murray's athleticism is very similar to what overshowns is.

0:42:22.440 --> 0:42:25.920
<v Speaker 3>And to your point, there are different ways that you

0:42:25.960 --> 0:42:28.040
<v Speaker 3>can affect the quarterback with your linebacker.

0:42:28.120 --> 0:42:30.760
<v Speaker 1>So how do you how do you play the run

0:42:30.800 --> 0:42:31.960
<v Speaker 1>at middle linebacker?

0:42:32.600 --> 0:42:34.520
<v Speaker 2>No way back to the poss's deal. Is this what

0:42:34.560 --> 0:42:35.400
<v Speaker 2>we're talking about?

0:42:35.440 --> 0:42:38.640
<v Speaker 3>Well, they kind of need a linebacker, and especially with Overshown,

0:42:38.680 --> 0:42:40.319
<v Speaker 3>I mean, when's he going to be back? You know,

0:42:40.719 --> 0:42:41.760
<v Speaker 3>I can't imagine.

0:42:41.760 --> 0:42:44.480
<v Speaker 4>So I would I would not be getting a player

0:42:44.560 --> 0:42:46.759
<v Speaker 4>like that out of the out of the box first round.

0:42:46.800 --> 0:42:47.920
<v Speaker 2>I would not be a post to that.

0:42:47.960 --> 0:42:52.520
<v Speaker 3>Well, there's a guy Jihad Campbell from Alabama who is

0:42:52.960 --> 0:42:56.360
<v Speaker 3>he was actually recruited and that he's dealing with a shoulder.

0:42:56.080 --> 0:42:58.120
<v Speaker 1>Elder surgery but after the combine.

0:42:58.560 --> 0:43:01.800
<v Speaker 3>But he is a guy who was actually recruited to

0:43:01.840 --> 0:43:05.359
<v Speaker 3>Alabama to be an edge rusher, but they had edge

0:43:05.400 --> 0:43:08.520
<v Speaker 3>rushers on the team. He was going to be backing up,

0:43:08.560 --> 0:43:10.640
<v Speaker 3>so they put him my linebacker instead, and he played

0:43:10.640 --> 0:43:12.759
<v Speaker 3>so well at linebacker he just kept him a linebacker.

0:43:12.840 --> 0:43:16.560
<v Speaker 3>But he's got those same type traits. And Jalen Walker,

0:43:16.680 --> 0:43:19.640
<v Speaker 3>the one from Georgia, is in that same boat.

0:43:19.719 --> 0:43:25.640
<v Speaker 1>Okay, So the only other option at this point at

0:43:25.760 --> 0:43:30.799
<v Speaker 1>linebacker would be Demone Clark right to play in the middle.

0:43:30.880 --> 0:43:35.719
<v Speaker 3>Well, and then they got the Amorus Leah foul from

0:43:36.760 --> 0:43:38.680
<v Speaker 3>it would be one of third round pick and Jack

0:43:38.719 --> 0:43:42.480
<v Speaker 3>Sanborn and then Santa started three games for ibra Flus

0:43:42.520 --> 0:43:43.719
<v Speaker 3>in Chicago last year.

0:43:43.760 --> 0:43:45.799
<v Speaker 4>Also, let's just remember we gave up a lot of

0:43:46.160 --> 0:43:50.160
<v Speaker 4>yards running in passing. But if you're going to pick

0:43:50.239 --> 0:43:54.160
<v Speaker 4>something first, you gotta stop the run. Yeah, So that's

0:43:54.200 --> 0:43:57.799
<v Speaker 4>why getting one of the bigger guys I would be

0:43:57.960 --> 0:43:59.360
<v Speaker 4>I would not be a posted as.

0:43:59.400 --> 0:44:03.279
<v Speaker 3>Well, but typically you can get those bigger guys in

0:44:03.360 --> 0:44:06.480
<v Speaker 3>later rounds and so in fact, Schottenheimer talked about it

0:44:06.520 --> 0:44:09.560
<v Speaker 3>at the owners meeting. Is building a team from the

0:44:09.600 --> 0:44:12.759
<v Speaker 3>outside end. And if you look at it, if you

0:44:12.800 --> 0:44:14.880
<v Speaker 3>look at the stats the last five years. I just

0:44:14.920 --> 0:44:19.480
<v Speaker 3>saw someone posted this this morning. This morning, first round

0:44:19.560 --> 0:44:23.040
<v Speaker 3>picks at different positions on defense, and it was defensive

0:44:23.160 --> 0:44:26.600
<v Speaker 3>ends and cornerbacks, like in the neighborhood of twenty five

0:44:26.680 --> 0:44:29.240
<v Speaker 3>of them for each have been selected in the last

0:44:29.280 --> 0:44:32.080
<v Speaker 3>five drafts. In the first round, you go to defensive

0:44:32.120 --> 0:44:36.120
<v Speaker 3>tackles and it's like less than ten linebackers and linebacker

0:44:36.239 --> 0:44:42.200
<v Speaker 3>is low too, really, and it's because most teams have

0:44:42.280 --> 0:44:46.040
<v Speaker 3>that same attitude. It's getting the outside guys. For wide

0:44:46.080 --> 0:44:50.640
<v Speaker 3>receivers on offense, there's wide receivers are right up there

0:44:50.680 --> 0:44:54.239
<v Speaker 3>with quarterbacks going in the first round. Yeah right, that's

0:44:54.280 --> 0:44:54.919
<v Speaker 3>exactly right.

0:44:55.000 --> 0:44:59.040
<v Speaker 1>Well, let's look at it this way. They gave up

0:44:59.040 --> 0:45:01.440
<v Speaker 1>one hundred and ninety cards rushing to New Orleans.

0:45:01.719 --> 0:45:04.480
<v Speaker 3>What happened in that game? That was a loss.

0:45:05.239 --> 0:45:07.640
<v Speaker 1>They gave up two seventy four to Baltimore.

0:45:07.760 --> 0:45:10.200
<v Speaker 3>What happened in that game? It was a loss.

0:45:10.800 --> 0:45:18.120
<v Speaker 1>They gave up one eighty four rushing to Detroit two

0:45:18.280 --> 0:45:20.400
<v Speaker 1>twenty three to San Francisco.

0:45:20.400 --> 0:45:22.839
<v Speaker 2>What are we talking about here? Stop me? When they

0:45:23.040 --> 0:45:26.680
<v Speaker 2>won one game whether we so, but that.

0:45:27.520 --> 0:45:29.480
<v Speaker 1>They gave up one hundred to Atlanta.

0:45:29.680 --> 0:45:35.360
<v Speaker 4>That's Thedelphia And we're talking these numbers here.

0:45:36.920 --> 0:45:42.799
<v Speaker 1>From Houston one forty five? Did they win that first

0:45:42.840 --> 0:45:43.920
<v Speaker 1>game against Washington?

0:45:44.040 --> 0:45:46.759
<v Speaker 3>So you're telling me, yes, that was the kick return game.

0:45:46.840 --> 0:45:49.920
<v Speaker 1>Oh, that's right, one forty five to Washington. Wait, I'm

0:45:49.960 --> 0:45:51.120
<v Speaker 1>not done.

0:45:51.840 --> 0:45:53.319
<v Speaker 3>Go back to the previous season too.

0:45:53.480 --> 0:45:58.160
<v Speaker 1>They gave one seventy nine about the Philadelphia second game

0:45:58.320 --> 0:45:58.919
<v Speaker 1>and one thing.

0:45:59.000 --> 0:46:02.960
<v Speaker 4>So did did no one say, hey, let's didn't no

0:46:03.000 --> 0:46:05.319
<v Speaker 4>one start reading off stats like this in front of

0:46:05.360 --> 0:46:09.640
<v Speaker 4>his face, like come on, but I'm sorry. So you're

0:46:09.680 --> 0:46:12.919
<v Speaker 4>saying you said it, not they said it. You said

0:46:13.200 --> 0:46:15.600
<v Speaker 4>they can find some guys that can feel those needs

0:46:15.640 --> 0:46:16.560
<v Speaker 4>later down the road.

0:46:16.920 --> 0:46:17.759
<v Speaker 2>Is that what you know?

0:46:17.960 --> 0:46:19.680
<v Speaker 3>That's that's what the league says.

0:46:19.880 --> 0:46:21.840
<v Speaker 2>Okay, you said that, right, No.

0:46:22.120 --> 0:46:24.920
<v Speaker 3>I said it, But that's because that's what the league

0:46:24.920 --> 0:46:29.080
<v Speaker 3>has done. That where linebacker is usually third round is

0:46:29.120 --> 0:46:30.680
<v Speaker 3>where the run comes on.

0:46:30.840 --> 0:46:33.320
<v Speaker 4>They're trying like they're trying to they're trying to force

0:46:34.280 --> 0:46:37.080
<v Speaker 4>a narrative, Uh that ain't fitting, which.

0:46:37.280 --> 0:46:40.520
<v Speaker 1>Not here speak to defensive tackle right.

0:46:42.480 --> 0:46:42.680
<v Speaker 3>Trying.

0:46:42.800 --> 0:46:46.440
<v Speaker 4>Come on, man, I'm thinking inside outside, they're going outside in.

0:46:47.000 --> 0:46:49.799
<v Speaker 1>Well, they're talking about who can affect the game.

0:46:50.719 --> 0:46:54.040
<v Speaker 3>You know what I'm talking about who. It's funny at

0:46:54.040 --> 0:46:57.000
<v Speaker 3>the same time that they say you build the team

0:46:57.040 --> 0:47:00.560
<v Speaker 3>from the outside end, they also sayamus one in.

0:47:02.320 --> 0:47:08.160
<v Speaker 2>Come on, man, I'm not understanding. So I'm reading out

0:47:08.160 --> 0:47:08.680
<v Speaker 2>the numbers.

0:47:09.120 --> 0:47:12.200
<v Speaker 1>Well, i'll tell you during I have.

0:47:12.200 --> 0:47:15.279
<v Speaker 2>Three heart attexts. Oh no, man, you just got the hitache. Man,

0:47:17.320 --> 0:47:23.080
<v Speaker 2>Come on, my symptoms are there.

0:47:23.920 --> 0:47:28.279
<v Speaker 3>You're treating my number. But the problem is here, it's

0:47:28.320 --> 0:47:29.000
<v Speaker 3>in my chest.

0:47:30.520 --> 0:47:32.040
<v Speaker 2>I don't know, man, I got me on.

0:47:32.080 --> 0:47:38.839
<v Speaker 1>That's why that's why Tyron Tyron Smith's retirement ceremony last week,

0:47:39.440 --> 0:47:41.040
<v Speaker 1>the guy with the biggest smile.

0:47:40.760 --> 0:47:43.880
<v Speaker 3>On his face was a Jason Garrett because that was

0:47:44.520 --> 0:47:47.560
<v Speaker 3>what he wanted to do. That's exactly in the draft,

0:47:47.600 --> 0:47:49.920
<v Speaker 3>and that's what they did with his But that's outside

0:47:50.160 --> 0:47:53.160
<v Speaker 3>Travis Frederick and then there's yeah and so that does

0:47:53.280 --> 0:47:58.560
<v Speaker 3>count as outside. Yeah, tackle is a tackle counts. And

0:47:58.600 --> 0:48:00.759
<v Speaker 3>that's why you got Tyler Guyton last year.

0:48:01.080 --> 0:48:02.480
<v Speaker 2>Okay, And that's.

0:48:02.280 --> 0:48:04.160
<v Speaker 3>Why Mickey says you don't draft a guard in.

0:48:04.200 --> 0:48:05.680
<v Speaker 2>The first round. Don't go out there.

0:48:05.719 --> 0:48:06.440
<v Speaker 3>They're insight.

0:48:07.000 --> 0:48:14.040
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<v Speaker 2>And you got my money, Michael Parsons, that is tomorrow.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm betting. Let's take some bets. Guys, who's gonna win?

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<v Speaker 4>I got Mike, He got Michael.

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<v Speaker 1>I got Michael if yeah, I think he's supposed to

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<v Speaker 1>be there.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, he's been a participant here.

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<v Speaker 2>He loves it, well, he loves it.

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<v Speaker 1>That first year he gave the one of the equipment

0:51:17.200 --> 0:51:21.480
<v Speaker 1>guys that was out there, he gave him one hundred dollars.

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<v Speaker 1>He said, these bats suck. Go buy me for one

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<v Speaker 1>hundred dollars the sporting goods store and got him a bat.

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<v Speaker 3>So maybe they'll get well, he'll come out there with

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<v Speaker 3>a top. That's what I was. There is no doubt

0:51:35.719 --> 0:51:38.160
<v Speaker 3>is going to have a torpedo bat. There's no doubt

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<v Speaker 3>he's probably been going to the batting cage with it already. Yeah, right, okay,

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<v Speaker 3>here we are.

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<v Speaker 2>We are.

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<v Speaker 3>This is our last segment before the draft.

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<v Speaker 1>And at least I don't know how much he's doing,

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<v Speaker 1>but at least he's I've seen him physically here for

0:51:57.400 --> 0:52:01.239
<v Speaker 1>he was here for Tyron Smith's retirement.

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<v Speaker 3>Celebration.

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<v Speaker 2>DA was feeling pretty pretty emotional for Tim. Yeah, he was.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know this thing about him saying, yeah, I

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<v Speaker 1>could play tomorrow.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, they're not going to let.

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<v Speaker 1>Him play tomorrow in the first place.

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<v Speaker 3>And the second place is uh.

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<v Speaker 1>While I've seen him do some of the stuff he

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<v Speaker 1>does on the Resistance chords, he's also did some of

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<v Speaker 1>that without him, right, So he's moving well, he can run, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>but I don't think he wants to go through contact tomorrow.

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<v Speaker 4>Hey, before before we moved to how about timon Smith?

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<v Speaker 4>What do you think guys think about his retirement? What'd

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<v Speaker 4>you think about it?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh? I thought that his legacy here we don't really

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<v Speaker 2>know much about him.

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<v Speaker 1>My first thought was listening to him to read his

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<v Speaker 1>retirement deal that he scripted out, and he cheated us

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<v Speaker 1>because he didn't like talking, right.

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<v Speaker 3>And he's so big. We were afraid to go even

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<v Speaker 3>though he's a nice guy.

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<v Speaker 1>But oh no, no, no, it's okay, yeah, good with me.

0:53:17.400 --> 0:53:19.719
<v Speaker 3>What if those strong hands, what if he grabbed you

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<v Speaker 3>by the neck. He was somewhat profound, right, I didn't

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<v Speaker 3>It was out of It was more out of respect.

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<v Speaker 3>It was really this. I think for reporters, it was

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<v Speaker 3>a respect for Tyran that we didn't bug him because

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<v Speaker 3>we knew that he was a quiet guy whatever, and

0:53:37.719 --> 0:53:41.520
<v Speaker 3>he had in the league as a player. He commands

0:53:41.640 --> 0:53:44.200
<v Speaker 3>that kind of respect from his peers in the league too.

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<v Speaker 1>You think about this, he should have showed up with

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<v Speaker 1>one of those knee braces on his elbow.

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<v Speaker 4>What do you think about his impact on this, on

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<v Speaker 4>the league and on the team itself.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh?

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<v Speaker 1>I thought it was the beginning of the Cowboys restructuring

0:53:58.800 --> 0:54:04.600
<v Speaker 1>their roster because they had suddenly gotten old and expensive

0:54:04.719 --> 0:54:08.759
<v Speaker 1>on the offensive line and they started losing guys retiring.

0:54:09.360 --> 0:54:13.040
<v Speaker 1>And he was the first piece of the puzzle that

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<v Speaker 1>Jason Garrett was like, we got to have this guy, Hudson,

0:54:18.280 --> 0:54:19.960
<v Speaker 1>How we got to have this guy?

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<v Speaker 2>We ran behind him a lot, didn't.

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<v Speaker 3>They did every lot behind him? Right?

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<v Speaker 1>And then you picked up Travis Frederick two years later,

0:54:27.719 --> 0:54:33.839
<v Speaker 1>and then Zack Martin and Lael Collins. Also that Laye

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<v Speaker 1>showed up.

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<v Speaker 3>He was there. He wants to play, by the way.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so I hear, Laloe, if you get an offer,

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<v Speaker 1>I just put it out there right because he said,

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<v Speaker 1>my knee is finally recovered and uh and.

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<v Speaker 3>He looked he looked like he was the Cowboys Charles.

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<v Speaker 3>That's right, Iamadnagy the last week, why not him workout?

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<v Speaker 2>Huh? Now, I just had to hear.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, we we have some great legacy around here

0:55:01.320 --> 0:55:03.799
<v Speaker 4>regards to the offensive lineman. As much as we talked

0:55:03.840 --> 0:55:06.359
<v Speaker 4>about Tyron and how imposing he is, we never really

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<v Speaker 4>just talk about, you know, how he impacted this team,

0:55:10.239 --> 0:55:12.560
<v Speaker 4>the culture of this team, and we start talking about

0:55:12.600 --> 0:55:14.719
<v Speaker 4>the culture of this team. That was the beginning, and

0:55:14.719 --> 0:55:17.280
<v Speaker 4>that's when we didn't have any great running backs until

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<v Speaker 4>Oklahoma came.

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<v Speaker 2>Murray marcol Murray came.

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<v Speaker 4>I just remember watching him play in against Seattle Seahawks

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<v Speaker 4>when we went up there and dominated those guys, and

0:55:31.680 --> 0:55:35.600
<v Speaker 4>that defense was not an easy defense. We smoked them.

0:55:36.120 --> 0:55:38.480
<v Speaker 4>Murray was running up and down the field and he

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<v Speaker 4>had to have over one hundred and fifty yards that game.

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<v Speaker 4>And to watch That's that's when I knew that this

0:55:44.719 --> 0:55:47.520
<v Speaker 4>team had really arrived, because it was a road game

0:55:47.880 --> 0:55:50.560
<v Speaker 4>and we're playing against this vaunted defense.

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<v Speaker 1>And what reminded me about his hands?

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<v Speaker 3>So they gave.

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<v Speaker 1>Him a commemorative football.

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<v Speaker 2>It was.

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<v Speaker 1>It was a black football. I'm not sure what it

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<v Speaker 1>was made of. He had his hand around it, and

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<v Speaker 1>I swear to god, his hand took up half the ball, right,

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm going I think this happened that someone and

0:56:14.200 --> 0:56:16.680
<v Speaker 1>I can't remember it was him or flows Al Adams.

0:56:16.719 --> 0:56:21.040
<v Speaker 1>They nicknamed him Hotel California because for defensive guys you

0:56:21.080 --> 0:56:25.120
<v Speaker 1>could check out, you could never leave if he got

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<v Speaker 1>his hand like that.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and that was him, right.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>And and they did a highlight film before the ceremony started,

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<v Speaker 1>and it just reminded you how dominating dominated was just dominating.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, I told you I went on one of

0:56:43.239 --> 0:56:48.960
<v Speaker 4>those cowboys who whatever, we did something and caravan. Yeah,

0:56:48.960 --> 0:56:51.439
<v Speaker 4>I don't know what it was, but he his his.

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<v Speaker 3>Well in the highlight video, you're and for those not

0:56:56.800 --> 0:57:00.759
<v Speaker 3>watching ever since, is punting towards his I said, but.

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<v Speaker 2>Five?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, yes, And in the in the tribute video that

0:57:07.160 --> 0:57:10.279
<v Speaker 3>they put together, one of the sideline reporters shows the

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<v Speaker 3>shot of the brace that was on the elbow and

0:57:15.440 --> 0:57:18.320
<v Speaker 3>and it was a and so she says, that's not

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<v Speaker 3>an arm brace. That is a leg brace that's on

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<v Speaker 3>on his arm, and that's a knee brace elbow last night.

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<v Speaker 4>And I'm glad I have the video of him dancing.

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<v Speaker 4>So I'm gonna I'm gonna get a ransom from him

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<v Speaker 4>some kind of way.

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<v Speaker 3>By the way, twenty fourteen is a pretty good season

0:57:40.160 --> 0:57:42.720
<v Speaker 3>for this team. Game if not for.

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<v Speaker 2>That was the year they went to Seattle.

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<v Speaker 3>They went to Seattle that year. The game you're speaking

0:57:49.240 --> 0:57:52.960
<v Speaker 3>of had one hundred and fifteen yards rushing in that game.

0:57:53.320 --> 0:57:56.560
<v Speaker 3>If it was thirty to twenty. I remember Terrence Williams

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<v Speaker 3>of the catch on the sideline right game was a

0:57:58.920 --> 0:58:02.000
<v Speaker 3>signature moment that game. So I called up the game

0:58:02.080 --> 0:58:06.720
<v Speaker 3>logs for DeMarco Murray. In the twenty fourteen season, he

0:58:06.840 --> 0:58:09.800
<v Speaker 3>cared and for the entire season. And this goes back

0:58:09.840 --> 0:58:14.000
<v Speaker 3>to the offensive line and what Jason Garrett did convincing

0:58:14.160 --> 0:58:17.520
<v Speaker 3>Jerry and everybody that we have got to do off

0:58:17.680 --> 0:58:19.600
<v Speaker 3>we got to take care of this offensive line. And

0:58:19.680 --> 0:58:23.000
<v Speaker 3>you take Tyron Smith and then you take Travis Frederick

0:58:23.040 --> 0:58:25.800
<v Speaker 3>and then you take Zach Martin in the first round. Okay.

0:58:26.680 --> 0:58:30.400
<v Speaker 3>Murray had three hundred and ninety two rushing attempts that

0:58:30.560 --> 0:58:35.600
<v Speaker 3>season for eighteen hundred and forty five yards, averaged four

0:58:35.600 --> 0:58:41.760
<v Speaker 3>point seven yards to carry and one two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, ten,

0:58:41.840 --> 0:58:45.720
<v Speaker 3>eleven twelve one hundred yard games that season.

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<v Speaker 2>It was so good watching him run. I loved it.

0:58:49.440 --> 0:58:53.560
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, flashes of ou and this was post acl surgery.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah right, yeah, because he used to be much faster, right,

0:58:56.400 --> 0:58:58.880
<v Speaker 4>It used to be much faster, and then he adapted

0:58:59.320 --> 0:59:03.280
<v Speaker 4>and became that uh, methodical runner.

0:59:03.960 --> 0:59:07.040
<v Speaker 2>And you could do that behind an offensive.

0:59:06.600 --> 0:59:12.280
<v Speaker 1>Line, I think, and I think that Derrick Henry and

0:59:12.360 --> 0:59:15.360
<v Speaker 1>Saquon Barkley did the entire.

0:59:15.960 --> 0:59:19.320
<v Speaker 3>Running back field a.

0:59:21.240 --> 0:59:24.240
<v Speaker 1>Service to remind him what you can do if you're

0:59:24.320 --> 0:59:24.840
<v Speaker 1>running back.

0:59:25.600 --> 0:59:31.080
<v Speaker 3>It's really gating, a pointed out in his Players Tribune

0:59:31.360 --> 0:59:34.680
<v Speaker 3>letter to the all NFL gms.

0:59:34.960 --> 0:59:38.040
<v Speaker 1>Oh he's And I'll tell you what if you haven't

0:59:38.080 --> 0:59:41.400
<v Speaker 1>read it, go to the Player's Tribune and see the

0:59:41.520 --> 0:59:45.640
<v Speaker 1>letter that Ashton Gent wrote and sent it to all.

0:59:45.480 --> 0:59:49.000
<v Speaker 3>The gms in the league. It's phenomenal. It's tackle football.

0:59:49.240 --> 0:59:52.400
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, I used the.

0:59:52.360 --> 0:59:55.440
<v Speaker 3>Excerpt draft the guy who can't be tackled is basically

0:59:55.440 --> 0:59:56.000
<v Speaker 3>what he said.

0:59:56.000 --> 0:59:58.760
<v Speaker 1>This is tackle football and I can't be He said,

0:59:59.160 --> 1:00:02.600
<v Speaker 1>see what Barkley did, I can do that, right right.

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<v Speaker 1>I used that at the bottom of my column last

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<v Speaker 1>on Friday. Yeah, and just remind you, you know how

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<v Speaker 1>like ric O'Donnell, he gained more almost sixty percent of

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<v Speaker 1>his yards the last seven games, right because they finally said, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>we're sinking our teeth into you.

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<v Speaker 3>You're the running back because I had a backup quarterback.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, and he produced, but everybody knew we had a

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<v Speaker 4>backup quarterback still finally able to start running.

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<v Speaker 1>So I did I factored what he did those last games.

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<v Speaker 1>If he had done that factored over seventeen games, he

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<v Speaker 1>would have had a sixteen hundred yard season. He didn't

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<v Speaker 1>get the opportunity. So the running back does matter, by

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<v Speaker 1>the way, but we know this wine, Yeah, it matters too.

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<v Speaker 3>And one of the notes, I'm glad you mentioned that

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<v Speaker 3>about Jason and his impact on the drafts then, because

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<v Speaker 3>I think you've got a coach here, yes, Brian Schottenheimer,

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<v Speaker 3>And I was able to sit down with him last

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<v Speaker 3>week and talk about the whole approach to the draft,

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<v Speaker 3>going from the combine when they had the entire coaching

1:01:09.800 --> 1:01:14.240
<v Speaker 3>staff there and they're studying players and meeting to Pro days,

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<v Speaker 3>Dallas Day, draft meeting rooms and so forth. And this

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<v Speaker 3>is what I'd noticed about Schottenheimer the first time I

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<v Speaker 3>heard one of his press conferences as the offensive coordinator

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<v Speaker 3>during the regular season last year. Where this guy knows

1:01:29.320 --> 1:01:32.520
<v Speaker 3>the league. You can tell he knows the players in

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<v Speaker 3>the league. You can tell he loves scouting players, and

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<v Speaker 3>he's a grinder. And so what you've had happen over

1:01:43.920 --> 1:01:46.720
<v Speaker 3>the course of the last few months is he has

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<v Speaker 3>locked arms with Will McLay and Mitchella point and the

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<v Speaker 3>entire coach the scouting staff, and he's making sure that

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<v Speaker 3>his coaches are letting these scouts know this is what

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<v Speaker 3>we look for in a football and Jerry will listen

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<v Speaker 3>to a head coach that he respects, his evaluation ability whatever,

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<v Speaker 3>which is what he did with Jason Garrett going back

1:02:10.240 --> 1:02:13.960
<v Speaker 3>to when they drafted Tying Smith and Travis Frederick and

1:02:14.040 --> 1:02:17.360
<v Speaker 3>Zach Martin. And so I really think Schottenheimer is going

1:02:17.400 --> 1:02:19.600
<v Speaker 3>to have a voice in that room. And Schottenheimer is

1:02:19.600 --> 1:02:21.640
<v Speaker 3>gonna have a good voice in that room because he's

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<v Speaker 3>done the homework. He does all the legwork on it,

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<v Speaker 3>and and and for sure.

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<v Speaker 1>He understands the other thing that Jason Garrett, when we

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<v Speaker 1>were talking about Brian Schottenheimer, he goes, well, look, how

1:02:39.680 --> 1:02:43.040
<v Speaker 1>look where he's raised. And I forgot about this. He goes,

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<v Speaker 1>you remember Marty Ball, Yeah, you know, and his dad

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<v Speaker 1>you know it was run the ball, play defense.

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<v Speaker 3>Especially elt Et, Tomlins and San Diego.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and run the ball, play defense and have good

1:03:00.080 --> 1:03:00.880
<v Speaker 1>special teams.

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<v Speaker 3>He goes in.

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<v Speaker 1>For some reason, they were successful, except for the ultimate

1:03:06.520 --> 1:03:08.000
<v Speaker 1>goal was to win.

1:03:08.040 --> 1:03:10.080
<v Speaker 3>And his Jets team that made it to the AFC

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<v Speaker 3>Championship game. They led the league in rushing one year

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<v Speaker 3>and the Seahawks led the league in rushing one year.

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<v Speaker 3>So when he was OC there, yep, all right, so

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<v Speaker 3>very good.

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<v Speaker 1>Here we go.

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<v Speaker 3>We talked about running backs, wide receivers, cornerbacks, defensive ends.

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<v Speaker 3>And so I can't wait to see what offensive lineman

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<v Speaker 3>the Cowboys pick of the first round, or the defense

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<v Speaker 3>on or the tackle. All right, And so we'll be

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<v Speaker 3>back to wrap it all up next Monday, eleven am.

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<v Speaker 3>Here on Mickshops Cowboys.

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