1 00:00:02,759 --> 00:00:05,280 Speaker 1: The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 2 00:00:05,280 --> 00:00:07,160 Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. 3 00:00:09,000 --> 00:00:10,080 Speaker 2: Cowboys. 4 00:00:11,720 --> 00:00:17,119 Speaker 3: This is Mick Shot, streaming live on Dallascowboys dot Com 5 00:00:17,160 --> 00:00:19,800 Speaker 3: and the official Dallas Cowboys at. 6 00:00:19,520 --> 00:00:30,320 Speaker 1: Now Here are Bill Jones, Everson Wolves, and Mickey Spagnola. 7 00:00:28,000 --> 00:00:31,920 Speaker 3: T minus three days and counting until day number one 8 00:00:32,520 --> 00:00:37,480 Speaker 3: of the National Football League Draft. I saw a football 9 00:00:37,520 --> 00:00:40,559 Speaker 3: player or two on a football field here at the 10 00:00:40,600 --> 00:00:44,479 Speaker 3: Star in Frisco, and we are raring to go on 11 00:00:44,520 --> 00:00:49,400 Speaker 3: this Monday edition of Mix Shots. Bill Jones, Mickey Spagnola, 12 00:00:50,080 --> 00:00:56,040 Speaker 3: Everson Walls thumbing through the Cowboys Star Magazine draft preview issue. 13 00:00:56,080 --> 00:01:02,760 Speaker 3: As he tries to do it, he tries to do 14 00:01:02,840 --> 00:01:07,440 Speaker 3: this homework assignment on the fly. He walks into the classroom. 15 00:01:07,600 --> 00:01:10,240 Speaker 3: The teacher said never, so did you get your homework done? 16 00:01:10,720 --> 00:01:14,720 Speaker 3: And now he's scrambling trying to remember what the assignment was. 17 00:01:15,000 --> 00:01:17,480 Speaker 2: I'm trying to find the DBS first. 18 00:01:17,600 --> 00:01:20,160 Speaker 3: Or come on, so it's a week old. 19 00:01:20,280 --> 00:01:21,880 Speaker 1: Expect to remember. 20 00:01:21,480 --> 00:01:26,720 Speaker 3: All that I purposely texted after the show last week 21 00:01:26,800 --> 00:01:30,880 Speaker 3: and these are your cornerbacks need to look at before 22 00:01:30,959 --> 00:01:34,119 Speaker 3: next Monday. And now he's doing his research. So Mickey 23 00:01:34,120 --> 00:01:36,360 Speaker 3: how are you doing. I'm good, ready to go. 24 00:01:36,600 --> 00:01:40,080 Speaker 2: All right? Thanks pit over there. 25 00:01:40,160 --> 00:01:41,520 Speaker 1: I didn't have any homework. 26 00:01:46,240 --> 00:01:46,800 Speaker 2: You could see. 27 00:01:46,959 --> 00:01:49,720 Speaker 1: I had to turn the volume down. Bill's really excited. 28 00:01:49,800 --> 00:01:52,160 Speaker 1: It's draft right, so he came in loud. 29 00:01:52,200 --> 00:01:55,480 Speaker 3: Loud and clear as I'm looking on NFL Network at 30 00:01:55,520 --> 00:02:00,320 Speaker 3: the not so frozen tundra of Lembo feet when days 31 00:02:00,440 --> 00:02:05,400 Speaker 3: draftway will take place on Thursday through the weekend. You 32 00:02:05,440 --> 00:02:08,160 Speaker 3: can enjoy it here at the Star in Frisco as well. 33 00:02:08,200 --> 00:02:11,480 Speaker 3: Tom Pelasero is already at lambeau Field. 34 00:02:12,200 --> 00:02:15,840 Speaker 4: You from what I heard around this stadium, it's one 35 00:02:15,840 --> 00:02:19,760 Speaker 4: of the more unique football stadiums with the exhibitions and 36 00:02:19,800 --> 00:02:20,200 Speaker 4: tell us. 37 00:02:20,160 --> 00:02:22,200 Speaker 3: About it, Mickey, I have never been to lambeau Field. 38 00:02:22,280 --> 00:02:25,680 Speaker 1: They made a kind of a what do. 39 00:02:25,680 --> 00:02:29,959 Speaker 3: They call it an NFL experience. No, they did itself. 40 00:02:30,120 --> 00:02:32,600 Speaker 1: They built around the stadium like. 41 00:02:32,560 --> 00:02:38,480 Speaker 3: A Star in Frisco h Entertainment district. Yeah, there's an 42 00:02:38,600 --> 00:02:40,160 Speaker 3: entertainment just office buildings. 43 00:02:40,240 --> 00:02:41,480 Speaker 2: They can they can walk. 44 00:02:41,760 --> 00:02:44,640 Speaker 4: There's like an exhibit where you as you're going to 45 00:02:44,720 --> 00:02:45,960 Speaker 4: the stadium, right, there's. 46 00:02:45,800 --> 00:02:47,840 Speaker 3: A and they have a Packers Hall of Fame there 47 00:02:48,000 --> 00:02:50,560 Speaker 3: at lambeau And then there's an outdoor. They built an 48 00:02:50,600 --> 00:02:54,480 Speaker 3: outdoor facility draft. Yeah, oh okay, so you're saying a 49 00:02:54,480 --> 00:02:57,600 Speaker 3: temporary one for the draft, but they have it's called 50 00:02:57,639 --> 00:03:00,840 Speaker 3: Title Town. There you go and they build they built 51 00:03:00,840 --> 00:03:01,200 Speaker 3: it up. 52 00:03:01,320 --> 00:03:03,079 Speaker 2: That's already there, that's there. 53 00:03:03,040 --> 00:03:05,040 Speaker 1: But they're building the outdoor parts. 54 00:03:05,440 --> 00:03:10,160 Speaker 2: The Title Town thing. I think that got upgraded or something. Yeah. 55 00:03:10,600 --> 00:03:13,000 Speaker 4: I knew one guy. He's a Packer fan. I don't 56 00:03:13,000 --> 00:03:14,720 Speaker 4: know why in the hell he's a pack of fan, 57 00:03:15,200 --> 00:03:16,480 Speaker 4: but he was up there and. 58 00:03:16,400 --> 00:03:17,399 Speaker 3: I was a Packer fan. 59 00:03:18,600 --> 00:03:23,160 Speaker 2: Again, thank you. That doesn't prove the case at all. 60 00:03:25,240 --> 00:03:26,440 Speaker 3: Stick it up for your friend. 61 00:03:27,080 --> 00:03:30,280 Speaker 4: Well he's uh, but he talked about how they changed 62 00:03:30,320 --> 00:03:31,920 Speaker 4: a few things. And you can walk through there on 63 00:03:32,000 --> 00:03:34,760 Speaker 4: the way to the stadium. The things that you see 64 00:03:35,040 --> 00:03:38,920 Speaker 4: up to it. They've got this, uh tradition. I guess 65 00:03:39,120 --> 00:03:40,160 Speaker 4: of how they approached there. 66 00:03:40,880 --> 00:03:44,920 Speaker 1: They're expecting you know, over the course of the three days, 67 00:03:45,200 --> 00:03:47,240 Speaker 1: you know, a lot of three hundred thousand people. 68 00:03:47,320 --> 00:03:48,080 Speaker 2: It is amazing. 69 00:03:48,320 --> 00:03:50,880 Speaker 3: It did amazing. I mean you see this as soon 70 00:03:50,880 --> 00:03:53,080 Speaker 3: as they well they went on in New York too, 71 00:03:53,200 --> 00:03:54,880 Speaker 3: but it was just for years in New York. Once 72 00:03:54,920 --> 00:03:58,480 Speaker 3: they got it and moving it around the country isn't 73 00:03:58,480 --> 00:03:59,240 Speaker 3: it amazing. 74 00:04:00,080 --> 00:04:01,760 Speaker 1: The great idea. 75 00:04:02,320 --> 00:04:07,480 Speaker 3: The people love events. I mean, they don't care that 76 00:04:07,480 --> 00:04:10,520 Speaker 3: that it's a there's no well, I guess there might 77 00:04:10,560 --> 00:04:13,560 Speaker 3: be some musical entertainment out in that area whatever, but 78 00:04:13,680 --> 00:04:16,360 Speaker 3: there's you're not watching a game, You're not well, you're 79 00:04:16,360 --> 00:04:19,839 Speaker 3: watching players being picked on a TV screen and it 80 00:04:19,880 --> 00:04:21,800 Speaker 3: becomes a big festive party. 81 00:04:21,760 --> 00:04:24,240 Speaker 1: Unless you're lucky enough to get close enough to the 82 00:04:24,279 --> 00:04:26,039 Speaker 1: stage and you can see the guys. 83 00:04:26,160 --> 00:04:29,560 Speaker 3: Okay, you're still watching players getting picked and walking on stage. Yeah, 84 00:04:29,600 --> 00:04:32,120 Speaker 3: I mean, and the entertainment value is through the roof. 85 00:04:32,160 --> 00:04:36,160 Speaker 3: That's because people love to party and I read right, 86 00:04:36,279 --> 00:04:39,000 Speaker 3: looking for an event and this is going to be a. 87 00:04:40,680 --> 00:04:45,720 Speaker 1: Drive destination because they don't have enough hotels for everybody to. 88 00:04:45,720 --> 00:04:46,880 Speaker 3: Show up and stay. 89 00:04:47,480 --> 00:04:50,160 Speaker 1: You can stay in Appleton because that's where the cowboys 90 00:04:51,120 --> 00:04:52,440 Speaker 1: use to stay until. 91 00:04:52,279 --> 00:04:54,120 Speaker 3: And how far as Appleton from Green Bay. 92 00:04:54,120 --> 00:04:57,680 Speaker 1: That's about a forty five minute drive something like that. 93 00:04:57,760 --> 00:04:59,640 Speaker 1: It's a great little time and I love it. 94 00:05:00,120 --> 00:05:03,000 Speaker 3: Standing for Worth and going to a game in Frisco. 95 00:05:03,480 --> 00:05:05,839 Speaker 4: You know, you have you have a like a beach 96 00:05:05,880 --> 00:05:12,360 Speaker 4: out there somewhere right in there there's a river a bay. 97 00:05:10,520 --> 00:05:18,160 Speaker 2: Ye be Well, let me say this God I was 98 00:05:18,240 --> 00:05:18,760 Speaker 2: I was young. 99 00:05:18,800 --> 00:05:19,840 Speaker 3: Did you ever play there? 100 00:05:20,200 --> 00:05:24,360 Speaker 4: I played there, but I did an event there and 101 00:05:24,400 --> 00:05:27,040 Speaker 4: we had some type of parade. I was one of 102 00:05:27,080 --> 00:05:29,200 Speaker 4: the younger guys there and I was there with some 103 00:05:29,240 --> 00:05:32,479 Speaker 4: Hall of famous and man, they were just older guys. 104 00:05:32,480 --> 00:05:35,000 Speaker 4: They were just having so much fun and they would 105 00:05:35,040 --> 00:05:38,839 Speaker 4: just relax. And I recall going to a bay area 106 00:05:39,920 --> 00:05:44,120 Speaker 4: around with some water and I remember how clear and 107 00:05:44,200 --> 00:05:45,080 Speaker 4: beautiful that water. 108 00:05:45,120 --> 00:05:45,760 Speaker 3: The water was. 109 00:05:46,080 --> 00:05:51,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, what was I there? Yeah? 110 00:05:51,600 --> 00:05:53,400 Speaker 4: And I remember I put my feet in the water 111 00:05:54,040 --> 00:05:57,680 Speaker 4: and it was really clear. Yeah, it was really clear. Yeah, 112 00:05:57,720 --> 00:05:59,480 Speaker 4: you could see your feet and I was like, wow, 113 00:05:59,520 --> 00:06:01,680 Speaker 4: what you know? And I remember we had done a parade. 114 00:06:01,760 --> 00:06:03,440 Speaker 4: It was some type of parade that we were in, 115 00:06:04,080 --> 00:06:04,640 Speaker 4: and you know. 116 00:06:04,800 --> 00:06:08,080 Speaker 1: Man, that was You know who's making out like bandits? 117 00:06:08,160 --> 00:06:11,320 Speaker 1: Is the people that own houses in that yhood? Yes, 118 00:06:11,360 --> 00:06:13,480 Speaker 1: because they're renting them out. 119 00:06:13,120 --> 00:06:16,200 Speaker 2: Here because you go through r Yeah, you go through there. 120 00:06:17,160 --> 00:06:17,880 Speaker 1: Is called. 121 00:06:22,640 --> 00:06:25,000 Speaker 3: The people going to get let's get to the draft. 122 00:06:25,240 --> 00:06:27,719 Speaker 3: Why are we talking about this? And so I'm they're 123 00:06:27,720 --> 00:06:30,760 Speaker 3: probably doing what I'm doing. Okay, I'll play along with 124 00:06:30,800 --> 00:06:34,839 Speaker 3: this conversation and I'll got my map out and I'm 125 00:06:34,880 --> 00:06:37,480 Speaker 3: looked at Okay. I looked at Green Bay. Yeah, it's 126 00:06:37,560 --> 00:06:41,320 Speaker 3: right there on some water, and sure enough it's Green Bay. 127 00:06:42,000 --> 00:06:44,279 Speaker 3: It's Lake Michigan on the other side of that little 128 00:06:44,279 --> 00:06:47,400 Speaker 3: peninsula there. Okay, we got that settled. Now let's talk draft. 129 00:06:47,440 --> 00:06:54,120 Speaker 3: Oshkosh is nearby too. I think we stayed there one year. 130 00:06:54,520 --> 00:06:55,320 Speaker 2: Okay. 131 00:06:55,760 --> 00:06:58,800 Speaker 1: We stayed south because there. I don't know why we 132 00:06:58,800 --> 00:07:02,600 Speaker 1: weren't in Appleton, but we kind of stayed off the 133 00:07:03,240 --> 00:07:08,560 Speaker 1: off the highway. Okay, so ready, Now have you sold 134 00:07:08,600 --> 00:07:09,840 Speaker 1: the big green notebook? 135 00:07:09,880 --> 00:07:09,960 Speaker 2: Ye? 136 00:07:10,080 --> 00:07:12,400 Speaker 3: Speaking of Green the big Green No, No, it's not 137 00:07:12,440 --> 00:07:17,880 Speaker 3: for sale. I mean we sell Sale Jones a big 138 00:07:17,920 --> 00:07:20,920 Speaker 3: green notebook. It is for sale, Okay. 139 00:07:22,360 --> 00:07:24,520 Speaker 2: I know some people put out big money for that book. 140 00:07:24,640 --> 00:07:25,080 Speaker 3: That's right. 141 00:07:25,160 --> 00:07:27,600 Speaker 2: It can be sold. It can be sold. 142 00:07:27,720 --> 00:07:30,720 Speaker 1: Except the part that has a seven round draft. 143 00:07:31,760 --> 00:07:38,080 Speaker 3: Which featured two trades, two trades and ty wait five 144 00:07:38,760 --> 00:07:43,360 Speaker 3: top one picks and two quarterbacks in it. See when 145 00:07:43,400 --> 00:07:46,880 Speaker 3: you trade down, then you can make luxury picks. And 146 00:07:47,040 --> 00:07:50,000 Speaker 3: I'm concerned about the backup quarterback situation on this team. 147 00:07:50,000 --> 00:07:53,000 Speaker 3: I'm also concerned about the developmental quarterback situation. 148 00:07:53,120 --> 00:07:56,080 Speaker 1: We should have spent more time finding a veteran quarterback 149 00:07:56,120 --> 00:07:56,520 Speaker 1: that they know. 150 00:07:56,600 --> 00:07:59,320 Speaker 3: Well, there's only one left out there, and that's Carson Wentz. 151 00:07:59,400 --> 00:08:04,400 Speaker 3: So now we've got we're going to the draft. No problem. 152 00:08:04,400 --> 00:08:08,080 Speaker 3: I got no problem with Carson Wentz. CJ. Bethard would 153 00:08:08,080 --> 00:08:11,120 Speaker 3: be another one. You think you can find a rookie quarterback, 154 00:08:11,320 --> 00:08:13,320 Speaker 3: there's Desmond More. I think out there. 155 00:08:13,400 --> 00:08:15,960 Speaker 1: Find a rookie quarterback in the fourth round that can 156 00:08:16,000 --> 00:08:17,119 Speaker 1: win you thirteen games. 157 00:08:17,200 --> 00:08:19,680 Speaker 3: There's not a fourth round pick, mickey, And so we're 158 00:08:19,680 --> 00:08:21,080 Speaker 3: going to go either the third. 159 00:08:20,880 --> 00:08:26,080 Speaker 4: Or the fifth round. You did that. 160 00:08:26,080 --> 00:08:30,640 Speaker 1: One year maybe if my memory about nine years ago. 161 00:08:31,320 --> 00:08:35,000 Speaker 3: I'm concerned about getting a quarterback in here and developed 162 00:08:35,200 --> 00:08:38,679 Speaker 3: in time for the next time that a contract comes up. 163 00:08:39,160 --> 00:08:40,280 Speaker 2: Oh, I'm worried. 164 00:08:40,320 --> 00:08:43,640 Speaker 3: You worried about week three? Well, it's exactly right. And 165 00:08:43,679 --> 00:08:47,240 Speaker 3: in the meantime, if you get a good enough quarterback, 166 00:08:48,520 --> 00:08:50,840 Speaker 3: he might be ready. Well no, he might be able 167 00:08:50,880 --> 00:08:53,640 Speaker 3: to at least do a little something. But I don't 168 00:08:53,640 --> 00:08:54,000 Speaker 3: think we. 169 00:08:54,000 --> 00:08:56,080 Speaker 2: Have that right now. All right, that would be a 170 00:08:56,120 --> 00:08:59,480 Speaker 2: cost and wins. Yeah. Right, So. 171 00:09:01,600 --> 00:09:05,640 Speaker 3: You've got three legal pads in front of you. Where 172 00:09:05,640 --> 00:09:09,360 Speaker 3: would you like to start? 173 00:09:10,720 --> 00:09:11,240 Speaker 1: Where did I? 174 00:09:11,440 --> 00:09:18,160 Speaker 3: Oh, I know what I wanted to do? So what 175 00:09:18,320 --> 00:09:18,880 Speaker 3: about this? 176 00:09:19,640 --> 00:09:23,520 Speaker 1: I know what you your predictions were for draft picks. 177 00:09:23,559 --> 00:09:29,000 Speaker 3: They weren't predictions. Oh it was like my picks. They're 178 00:09:29,040 --> 00:09:31,120 Speaker 3: not predictions of what the Cowboys are going to do. 179 00:09:32,880 --> 00:09:40,680 Speaker 1: Let's let's do this options. So, first option would be 180 00:09:41,360 --> 00:09:45,520 Speaker 1: you're not enthused with what's there at twelve, or there's 181 00:09:45,559 --> 00:09:48,240 Speaker 1: so much there at twelve, you could trade back. 182 00:09:48,800 --> 00:09:49,480 Speaker 2: What'd you do it? 183 00:09:49,520 --> 00:09:52,520 Speaker 3: And the reason for trading back, in my opinion, there 184 00:09:52,600 --> 00:09:58,520 Speaker 3: you you can go every position on this team, including quarterback, 185 00:09:59,200 --> 00:10:03,199 Speaker 3: and there is a need on this team. Okay, they've 186 00:10:03,240 --> 00:10:05,679 Speaker 3: done what they've can do as far as free agency, 187 00:10:06,280 --> 00:10:09,720 Speaker 3: but when you look not only at twenty twenty five, 188 00:10:10,080 --> 00:10:12,959 Speaker 3: but also twenty twenty six and beyond, when you look 189 00:10:13,000 --> 00:10:15,520 Speaker 3: at the number of players or in the last year 190 00:10:15,559 --> 00:10:19,440 Speaker 3: of their contracts, whatever, there is a need every position 191 00:10:19,520 --> 00:10:20,120 Speaker 3: on the team. 192 00:10:20,200 --> 00:10:22,000 Speaker 2: Okay, so you. 193 00:10:21,960 --> 00:10:24,599 Speaker 3: Want The reason I bring that up is if you 194 00:10:24,760 --> 00:10:28,439 Speaker 3: trade down and pick up, say a third round pick, 195 00:10:29,280 --> 00:10:33,200 Speaker 3: then you've got four top one hundred picks instead of three. 196 00:10:33,440 --> 00:10:37,280 Speaker 3: Right or in the case of this team, right now, 197 00:10:37,320 --> 00:10:40,760 Speaker 3: they've got three top one hundred and forty eight picks 198 00:10:40,960 --> 00:10:43,160 Speaker 3: because they don't have a fourth round pick. Their next 199 00:10:43,200 --> 00:10:45,319 Speaker 3: pick after the third round is at one forty nine. 200 00:10:45,360 --> 00:10:49,600 Speaker 1: How far would you feel safe dropping back? 201 00:10:52,000 --> 00:10:54,520 Speaker 3: I think from twelve. I don't think there's a I 202 00:10:54,559 --> 00:10:58,240 Speaker 3: don't think unless there's a surprise where there's one of 203 00:10:58,280 --> 00:11:02,320 Speaker 3: the top prospects for some reason slives. I don't think 204 00:11:02,320 --> 00:11:04,319 Speaker 3: there's a whole lot of difference between the guy you're 205 00:11:04,360 --> 00:11:06,080 Speaker 3: gonna get at number twelve and the guy you're gonna 206 00:11:06,080 --> 00:11:06,959 Speaker 3: get at number twenty two. 207 00:11:07,120 --> 00:11:08,920 Speaker 2: So that was gonna say twenty. 208 00:11:09,880 --> 00:11:14,160 Speaker 1: I don't want to fall back past nineteen. I don't 209 00:11:14,200 --> 00:11:17,800 Speaker 1: want to get to twenty. I would rather go to fifteen. 210 00:11:19,040 --> 00:11:20,600 Speaker 2: So, okay, we're talking this. 211 00:11:20,520 --> 00:11:23,800 Speaker 3: But every every team, would you drop back? 212 00:11:23,920 --> 00:11:24,800 Speaker 2: I would drop back. 213 00:11:25,320 --> 00:11:28,720 Speaker 4: I would simply because we need so many players. We 214 00:11:28,760 --> 00:11:30,400 Speaker 4: need a player in every position. Oay, we were looking 215 00:11:30,440 --> 00:11:33,440 Speaker 4: for one particular player, then I wouldn't. Okay, okay, let 216 00:11:33,480 --> 00:11:34,400 Speaker 4: me wait on that guy. 217 00:11:34,520 --> 00:11:34,960 Speaker 2: He's wait. 218 00:11:35,000 --> 00:11:37,120 Speaker 4: We got an agreement, we know what everybody's gonna do. 219 00:11:37,679 --> 00:11:40,320 Speaker 4: Was set for a boom. We did it job. We' 220 00:11:40,320 --> 00:11:41,560 Speaker 4: all doing everybody high five. 221 00:11:41,679 --> 00:11:42,160 Speaker 3: All right. 222 00:11:42,240 --> 00:11:46,960 Speaker 1: So having said that, if you got to twelve, is 223 00:11:47,000 --> 00:11:48,600 Speaker 1: there a go ahead? 224 00:11:49,120 --> 00:11:49,720 Speaker 3: One other thing? 225 00:11:50,640 --> 00:11:50,920 Speaker 2: All right? 226 00:11:51,040 --> 00:11:54,680 Speaker 3: It's a difference. Okay, you're if you dropped to fifteen. 227 00:11:55,160 --> 00:11:58,080 Speaker 3: If you look at the trade valued chart, okay, and 228 00:11:58,160 --> 00:12:02,559 Speaker 3: I'm reading off the rich Hill modified trade value chart, 229 00:12:03,920 --> 00:12:06,920 Speaker 3: the difference in points from going from twelve to fifteen, 230 00:12:06,960 --> 00:12:09,880 Speaker 3: you're basically you're getting a fourth round draft pick back 231 00:12:10,000 --> 00:12:13,559 Speaker 3: to move down three spots, that's right. And so if 232 00:12:13,600 --> 00:12:17,439 Speaker 3: you move down to eighteen, I'm looking at the difference 233 00:12:17,480 --> 00:12:22,880 Speaker 3: in points here you're looking at to let me see 234 00:12:23,040 --> 00:12:26,880 Speaker 3: three forty seven, eighteen's to eighty forty seven and third 235 00:12:27,000 --> 00:12:29,040 Speaker 3: sixty you're looking at a third round pickback. 236 00:12:29,280 --> 00:12:29,880 Speaker 5: So if you go to. 237 00:12:29,840 --> 00:12:32,000 Speaker 3: Fifteen, it's a fourth round pick. If you go to eighteen, 238 00:12:32,040 --> 00:12:32,679 Speaker 3: it's a third round. 239 00:12:32,880 --> 00:12:34,840 Speaker 1: I got to have a third if I moved, So you. 240 00:12:34,720 --> 00:12:37,440 Speaker 3: Have to move back to eighteen. Yeah, seventeen eighteen so far. 241 00:12:37,679 --> 00:12:40,880 Speaker 1: I've got to do something and give them twenty twenty 242 00:12:40,920 --> 00:12:42,320 Speaker 1: six fifth round two. 243 00:12:42,480 --> 00:12:44,400 Speaker 3: Now, if you do what the Big Green Notebook did 244 00:12:44,400 --> 00:12:46,320 Speaker 3: and move back to twenty or twenty two, you can 245 00:12:46,320 --> 00:12:48,640 Speaker 3: get a second round pickch too far. Now, the problem 246 00:12:48,760 --> 00:12:51,600 Speaker 3: is you also have to have someone who wants to 247 00:12:51,679 --> 00:12:55,120 Speaker 3: move up for something they give up, right and everybody's draft. 248 00:12:55,480 --> 00:12:59,680 Speaker 3: That's because of the quarterback situation in this draft. You're 249 00:13:00,000 --> 00:13:02,240 Speaker 3: there's probably not going to be teams that are going 250 00:13:02,320 --> 00:13:04,120 Speaker 3: to be moving very far. 251 00:13:04,440 --> 00:13:11,320 Speaker 1: Okay, so if you if something falls to twelve that 252 00:13:11,480 --> 00:13:13,800 Speaker 1: you say, I got to have that. 253 00:13:13,679 --> 00:13:17,199 Speaker 3: Guy, who would take him? 254 00:13:17,360 --> 00:13:20,880 Speaker 1: If let's put it this way, if for some reason 255 00:13:20,920 --> 00:13:23,400 Speaker 1: and I don't think it's going to happen Ashton. 256 00:13:23,320 --> 00:13:27,320 Speaker 3: Yes, I run to the podium and write, yes, if 257 00:13:27,360 --> 00:13:29,640 Speaker 3: Ashton genty, I don't think genty will get past the 258 00:13:29,720 --> 00:13:31,720 Speaker 3: Raiders at six. It's the way it sounds. 259 00:13:32,520 --> 00:13:38,160 Speaker 1: And possibly New Orleans at nine. 260 00:13:38,400 --> 00:13:42,960 Speaker 3: Nine. No, they're taking sud at nine, right, that's what 261 00:13:42,960 --> 00:13:47,520 Speaker 3: everyone says to Orleans, That's what everyone said, he doesn't 262 00:13:47,520 --> 00:13:49,520 Speaker 3: have That's another topic. 263 00:13:51,120 --> 00:14:00,040 Speaker 1: What's happening with what's happening? Okay, So now if you 264 00:14:00,080 --> 00:14:04,240 Speaker 1: get to twelve and you're going to stay there and 265 00:14:04,440 --> 00:14:11,000 Speaker 1: Genti's not there, would you still take a running back? 266 00:14:12,040 --> 00:14:13,360 Speaker 2: I would not. You would not. 267 00:14:13,559 --> 00:14:16,320 Speaker 3: I would not because there's a deep running back class 268 00:14:16,360 --> 00:14:17,800 Speaker 3: and you can get a running back in the second 269 00:14:17,880 --> 00:14:20,520 Speaker 3: or third d so you would go with a different position. 270 00:14:21,200 --> 00:14:24,680 Speaker 1: Okay, what about if you decide not to do that, 271 00:14:26,480 --> 00:14:28,320 Speaker 1: would you take a wide receiver there? 272 00:14:29,000 --> 00:14:30,560 Speaker 3: You could take a wide receiver. 273 00:14:30,320 --> 00:14:35,960 Speaker 1: There, And it seems like the top ones to go 274 00:14:36,080 --> 00:14:41,280 Speaker 1: there would be McMillen, Golden, the Buka, and. 275 00:14:41,320 --> 00:14:46,400 Speaker 3: Burden and I would probably in that order for a 276 00:14:46,400 --> 00:14:49,400 Speaker 3: lot of For the so called experts out there. 277 00:14:49,280 --> 00:14:53,160 Speaker 1: Right, they have them, well the big Green Notebook. 278 00:14:53,320 --> 00:15:00,840 Speaker 3: I out of those, I like Abuka m hmm. And 279 00:15:00,880 --> 00:15:03,400 Speaker 3: one of the reasons I like Abuka is and that 280 00:15:03,480 --> 00:15:07,600 Speaker 3: there's no knock against the other guys. But I love 281 00:15:08,000 --> 00:15:10,960 Speaker 3: he is. He might be the safest pick in this 282 00:15:11,080 --> 00:15:15,680 Speaker 3: draft in terms of being reliable, and he is a 283 00:15:15,880 --> 00:15:22,360 Speaker 3: culture setter in the locker room. His value goes beyond 284 00:15:22,360 --> 00:15:24,320 Speaker 3: what he does on the football field, and that's what 285 00:15:24,400 --> 00:15:26,520 Speaker 3: I love about a Mecca Abuka. 286 00:15:26,680 --> 00:15:30,760 Speaker 1: Now I saw one thing about him that says he's 287 00:15:31,280 --> 00:15:35,480 Speaker 1: a slot receiver is that it I don't see that 288 00:15:35,640 --> 00:15:38,080 Speaker 1: he can do both inside. I don't know why he 289 00:15:38,080 --> 00:15:40,640 Speaker 1: wouldn't be able to, Okay, I mean he's six one 290 00:15:41,160 --> 00:15:45,280 Speaker 1: pounds and McMillan has basically got to be the outside. 291 00:15:45,800 --> 00:15:47,720 Speaker 3: I mean he's playing at Ohio State where they got 292 00:15:47,720 --> 00:15:50,520 Speaker 3: all those receivers who can play on the outside. So 293 00:15:50,600 --> 00:15:52,480 Speaker 3: somebody's got to play on the slot. So he's been 294 00:15:52,520 --> 00:15:55,080 Speaker 3: playing in the slot. That doesn't mean he can't play outside. 295 00:15:55,200 --> 00:16:00,240 Speaker 3: He is from a character standpoint, he's Terry McLaurin out 296 00:16:00,280 --> 00:16:03,120 Speaker 3: of Ohio State and is obviously doing what he's doing 297 00:16:03,120 --> 00:16:06,240 Speaker 3: at Washington. All right, he is a one of the 298 00:16:06,320 --> 00:16:08,400 Speaker 3: safest picks you could have in this draft. 299 00:16:08,440 --> 00:16:14,200 Speaker 1: I think now Golden and Burden can do inside and 300 00:16:14,280 --> 00:16:19,960 Speaker 1: outside in my opinion. Okay, McMillan's just outside, right, and 301 00:16:20,040 --> 00:16:23,200 Speaker 1: he's he's not a speed guy. 302 00:16:23,360 --> 00:16:26,720 Speaker 3: Is he ran a four to four Okay, I mean 303 00:16:26,760 --> 00:16:28,600 Speaker 3: that's four four five four eight. 304 00:16:28,720 --> 00:16:30,160 Speaker 1: But he's kind of the bigger type. 305 00:16:30,240 --> 00:16:36,080 Speaker 3: Yes, he's receiver, yeah, okay, I mean there's there's advantages 306 00:16:36,160 --> 00:16:39,240 Speaker 3: to what he can do, and especially on this Cowboys 307 00:16:39,320 --> 00:16:42,000 Speaker 3: team that you're lacking in that big wide receiver. 308 00:16:42,080 --> 00:16:42,240 Speaker 2: Right. 309 00:16:42,720 --> 00:16:44,920 Speaker 3: Well, they traded for one Jonathan Mingo. 310 00:16:45,440 --> 00:16:50,800 Speaker 1: So he's more of a I've just went right by. Uh, 311 00:16:51,360 --> 00:16:54,440 Speaker 1: he's more of a MARII Cooper type receiver. 312 00:16:54,800 --> 00:16:59,240 Speaker 3: He's more of He's he's the comp is Mike Evans. Okay, 313 00:17:00,040 --> 00:17:00,360 Speaker 3: I mean the. 314 00:17:02,880 --> 00:17:06,439 Speaker 1: So what you get there has to be able to 315 00:17:07,359 --> 00:17:10,280 Speaker 1: kind of compliment what seed. 316 00:17:10,119 --> 00:17:12,639 Speaker 3: Which, by the way, I'm glad you mentioned Amari Cooper. 317 00:17:12,880 --> 00:17:16,439 Speaker 3: Here's the other thing, the factor in Everson. They're looking 318 00:17:16,480 --> 00:17:19,719 Speaker 3: at the wide receivers. Taking a wide receiver in this draft, 319 00:17:20,240 --> 00:17:24,520 Speaker 3: there are about four free agent wide receivers out there 320 00:17:25,359 --> 00:17:29,120 Speaker 3: who you could sign after the draft if you don't 321 00:17:29,160 --> 00:17:31,280 Speaker 3: get the wide receiver that you want during the draft. 322 00:17:31,280 --> 00:17:34,000 Speaker 3: So as you're filling these obvious needs on the team 323 00:17:34,040 --> 00:17:37,919 Speaker 3: and replacing Brandon Cooks on the roster, well, there's Tyler 324 00:17:37,960 --> 00:17:40,560 Speaker 3: Lockett still out there. There's Amory Cooper still out there. 325 00:17:40,760 --> 00:17:43,520 Speaker 3: There's Keenan Allen still out there. There's Tyler Boyd still 326 00:17:43,520 --> 00:17:46,879 Speaker 3: out there. So there are there are a handful of 327 00:17:46,920 --> 00:17:50,159 Speaker 3: wide receivers who you can take care of that immediate 328 00:17:50,280 --> 00:17:56,640 Speaker 3: need and probably that well for sure that wide receiver 329 00:17:56,840 --> 00:17:59,560 Speaker 3: if they still have it, they still have their legs, which, 330 00:18:00,000 --> 00:18:02,960 Speaker 3: assuming they do, they're going to give you more this 331 00:18:03,080 --> 00:18:04,360 Speaker 3: year than what a rookie wide. 332 00:18:04,160 --> 00:18:05,359 Speaker 2: Receiver, it's no doubt about. 333 00:18:05,760 --> 00:18:09,240 Speaker 4: And these are quarterback friendly wide receiver right just called out. 334 00:18:09,760 --> 00:18:11,359 Speaker 4: These guys know how to work the slot. 335 00:18:11,880 --> 00:18:12,400 Speaker 2: I think all. 336 00:18:12,359 --> 00:18:16,560 Speaker 4: Three we know Amari Cooper, we know what he can 337 00:18:16,600 --> 00:18:19,760 Speaker 4: do and how he changes teams from the wide receiver position. 338 00:18:19,840 --> 00:18:22,000 Speaker 3: That's why I think you have to look beyond the 339 00:18:22,040 --> 00:18:24,920 Speaker 3: immediate need this year. There are guys out there who 340 00:18:24,960 --> 00:18:27,720 Speaker 3: can fill those immediate needs and they're not going to 341 00:18:27,800 --> 00:18:31,439 Speaker 3: cost that much, and so you have to look okay, 342 00:18:31,760 --> 00:18:34,199 Speaker 3: And that's one of the reasons I like Abuka is 343 00:18:34,240 --> 00:18:36,639 Speaker 3: because you're setting this is a guy who's going to 344 00:18:36,720 --> 00:18:41,840 Speaker 3: impact things for years here and beyond football. 345 00:18:42,080 --> 00:18:44,600 Speaker 4: Well that's true too, But once again, going back to 346 00:18:44,640 --> 00:18:49,160 Speaker 4: those veteran receivers, I can't recall any one of those 347 00:18:49,200 --> 00:18:56,040 Speaker 4: guys having locker room problems or having issues with their quarterback. 348 00:18:55,640 --> 00:18:57,159 Speaker 1: About it's got to be about me. 349 00:18:57,400 --> 00:19:00,200 Speaker 4: Yes, I don't recall any of them. If I was 350 00:19:00,280 --> 00:19:03,320 Speaker 4: gonna say anybody, maybe Kingdon Allen and that would just 351 00:19:03,400 --> 00:19:07,280 Speaker 4: be you know, spitballer. I have no idea what his 352 00:19:07,400 --> 00:19:10,720 Speaker 4: relationship is, but it's nothing that has come out that 353 00:19:10,920 --> 00:19:12,679 Speaker 4: where you could say it was a detriment to that 354 00:19:12,800 --> 00:19:15,640 Speaker 4: team and he was a problem in the locker room 355 00:19:15,800 --> 00:19:18,399 Speaker 4: either one of those especially three of those four guys. 356 00:19:19,880 --> 00:19:22,360 Speaker 1: It never is a problem until some of the immediate 357 00:19:22,560 --> 00:19:24,520 Speaker 1: ask are you not getting the ball or not? 358 00:19:26,800 --> 00:19:29,800 Speaker 3: And consider Tyler Lockett. He's been with this coach and 359 00:19:29,840 --> 00:19:33,680 Speaker 3: had great years with this coach in Seattle. 360 00:19:33,280 --> 00:19:38,919 Speaker 1: And Amari wasn't a problem here. Okay, So now what 361 00:19:39,200 --> 00:19:44,680 Speaker 1: happens if there is one of the top cornerbacks there 362 00:19:44,920 --> 00:19:47,160 Speaker 1: at twelfth, would you. 363 00:19:48,359 --> 00:19:50,560 Speaker 4: I think you need a cornerback more than you do 364 00:19:50,600 --> 00:19:53,800 Speaker 4: a receiver in regards to getting it in the draft, Okay, 365 00:19:53,840 --> 00:19:56,400 Speaker 4: because it getting I don't know what cornerbacks are out 366 00:19:56,400 --> 00:19:59,359 Speaker 4: there that can impact the team as well as the 367 00:19:59,400 --> 00:20:01,399 Speaker 4: wide receiver there out there, they can impact you. 368 00:20:01,480 --> 00:20:05,080 Speaker 3: The guys that are that are projected as veterans, I 369 00:20:05,160 --> 00:20:08,080 Speaker 3: mean the guy, okay, but the guy and Stephan Gilmour 370 00:20:08,119 --> 00:20:09,920 Speaker 3: is one of the veterans. It's that out there is 371 00:20:09,960 --> 00:20:13,200 Speaker 3: out there there. Tredevius White just got signed by Buffalo. 372 00:20:13,400 --> 00:20:16,520 Speaker 3: He was one that was out there. Sante Samuel has 373 00:20:16,560 --> 00:20:18,720 Speaker 3: an injury issue that has to be worked out to 374 00:20:18,720 --> 00:20:20,320 Speaker 3: see whether he's good to go or not. 375 00:20:20,920 --> 00:20:21,040 Speaker 2: So. 376 00:20:21,200 --> 00:20:23,480 Speaker 3: But there are some cornerbacks out there. 377 00:20:25,359 --> 00:20:27,600 Speaker 2: But I wouldn't say that they're the Calibo. No, No, 378 00:20:27,640 --> 00:20:29,240 Speaker 2: they're not. I'm just talking exactly right. 379 00:20:29,680 --> 00:20:32,959 Speaker 3: But when you look at the draft there there are 380 00:20:33,000 --> 00:20:37,160 Speaker 3: a couple of cornerbacks who are projected that would be Okay. 381 00:20:37,520 --> 00:20:39,359 Speaker 3: Cowboys will get a pat on the back if they 382 00:20:39,400 --> 00:20:41,919 Speaker 3: take Will Johnson of Michigan with a twelfth pick or 383 00:20:42,040 --> 00:20:46,480 Speaker 3: John A. Barron from Texas any other cornerback, they'll they'll 384 00:20:46,480 --> 00:20:49,160 Speaker 3: be ripped for Oh, that's too high to take them. 385 00:20:49,200 --> 00:20:52,359 Speaker 3: But Trey him is too high that he's projected in 386 00:20:52,359 --> 00:20:54,880 Speaker 3: the second round. Ye whatever, but that doesn't mean anything. 387 00:20:54,920 --> 00:20:58,440 Speaker 3: If you love a player, man, take that dude, take them, 388 00:20:58,520 --> 00:21:02,719 Speaker 3: and because you're take you're only taking them too high. 389 00:21:02,960 --> 00:21:05,040 Speaker 3: If he wouldn't be there the next time you pick 390 00:21:05,240 --> 00:21:07,840 Speaker 3: at number forty, or if he would be there the 391 00:21:07,880 --> 00:21:10,240 Speaker 3: next time you pick at forty four in the second round. 392 00:21:10,240 --> 00:21:15,399 Speaker 3: Otherwise you're not taking too high. So you'd love to 393 00:21:15,440 --> 00:21:18,440 Speaker 3: trade down and get better value, but sometimes you've got 394 00:21:18,480 --> 00:21:21,639 Speaker 3: to have a trading partner. But Maxwell Harriston is more 395 00:21:21,680 --> 00:21:25,080 Speaker 3: of a slot, but he can play outside to Kentucky 396 00:21:25,400 --> 00:21:30,040 Speaker 3: is another guy that would be a late first second 397 00:21:30,160 --> 00:21:33,280 Speaker 3: round guy. But Amos from Ole Miss is another one. 398 00:21:33,359 --> 00:21:36,920 Speaker 3: Amos started his career at Louisiana Lafayette played three years. 399 00:21:36,920 --> 00:21:39,960 Speaker 3: There was actually a backup at Alabama for one year 400 00:21:40,000 --> 00:21:42,960 Speaker 3: and then his last year started and played well at 401 00:21:43,040 --> 00:21:48,040 Speaker 3: Ole Miss. But Alabama he played behind kool Aid, McKinstry, 402 00:21:48,080 --> 00:21:50,800 Speaker 3: and Terry and Arnold who were top draft picks. 403 00:21:50,920 --> 00:21:55,160 Speaker 1: Okay, so I read this about Will Johnson that there 404 00:21:55,280 --> 00:22:00,920 Speaker 1: was some concern about his long term knee long term 405 00:22:01,000 --> 00:22:05,240 Speaker 1: long knee injury. Oh, knee currently not a problem, but 406 00:22:05,280 --> 00:22:08,200 Speaker 1: there could be something long term. 407 00:22:08,280 --> 00:22:11,920 Speaker 3: What raises the red flag. Now supposedly he didn't run, 408 00:22:12,560 --> 00:22:14,280 Speaker 3: but he didn't run at the Combine due to a 409 00:22:14,320 --> 00:22:20,040 Speaker 3: hamstring injury and he only played six games last year. 410 00:22:20,280 --> 00:22:24,600 Speaker 3: He had a turf toe injury, torn ligament, turf toe injury, 411 00:22:24,840 --> 00:22:30,879 Speaker 3: and he and so the problem where he was likely 412 00:22:31,080 --> 00:22:36,400 Speaker 3: in the eyes of the analyst falling is because there's 413 00:22:36,440 --> 00:22:38,840 Speaker 3: no time on him because he hasn't run. 414 00:22:39,840 --> 00:22:41,320 Speaker 1: Well, can't they watch him play? 415 00:22:41,480 --> 00:22:43,960 Speaker 3: Yes, but you watch him play now if there is 416 00:22:44,000 --> 00:22:47,600 Speaker 3: a medical issue that would drop him for sure, we're 417 00:22:47,600 --> 00:22:52,440 Speaker 3: talking where would Will Johnson from Michigan six two and 418 00:22:52,480 --> 00:22:57,919 Speaker 3: ninety four pounds, and he looks the part he is. 419 00:22:59,240 --> 00:22:59,960 Speaker 3: He's really good. 420 00:23:00,680 --> 00:23:05,520 Speaker 1: So and I like Baron, I don't. I mean, I 421 00:23:05,520 --> 00:23:10,520 Speaker 1: saw him work out and I was sold and I 422 00:23:10,600 --> 00:23:13,680 Speaker 1: listened to him talk. Oh yeah, he's got more confidence 423 00:23:13,760 --> 00:23:14,360 Speaker 1: than Everson. 424 00:23:14,600 --> 00:23:14,840 Speaker 2: Yeah. 425 00:23:15,800 --> 00:23:20,919 Speaker 3: And and so he is from the characters standpoint, and 426 00:23:20,960 --> 00:23:24,880 Speaker 3: that he's he's like a Buka in terms of all 427 00:23:24,920 --> 00:23:25,399 Speaker 3: that stuff. 428 00:23:26,240 --> 00:23:31,480 Speaker 1: So see, and if for people for us to understand 429 00:23:33,320 --> 00:23:38,200 Speaker 1: why we kind of pointed out the cornerback position. I 430 00:23:38,359 --> 00:23:41,520 Speaker 1: got concerns that Trayvon Diggs is not going to be 431 00:23:41,640 --> 00:23:42,879 Speaker 1: ready to start the season. 432 00:23:42,920 --> 00:23:46,479 Speaker 3: You've got multiple needs at cornerback that you got not 433 00:23:46,520 --> 00:23:49,640 Speaker 3: only Jordan Lewis, but also you lost him. 434 00:23:49,960 --> 00:23:56,399 Speaker 1: You got Dran Bland and and don't tell me career. 435 00:23:57,640 --> 00:24:01,440 Speaker 3: Is the guy that they traded for. And you got 436 00:24:01,480 --> 00:24:02,360 Speaker 3: Kaylin Carson. 437 00:24:02,520 --> 00:24:04,359 Speaker 2: Who tell me about Elam? Who is this guy? 438 00:24:04,880 --> 00:24:08,520 Speaker 3: Kyer Elam was a that's what sopposed to be checking. 439 00:24:09,480 --> 00:24:12,000 Speaker 3: Kyer Elam is the one they traded for. He's not 440 00:24:12,040 --> 00:24:14,600 Speaker 3: in the draft, but he was a first round draft 441 00:24:14,600 --> 00:24:17,520 Speaker 3: pick of the Bills in twenty twenty two and basically 442 00:24:17,720 --> 00:24:20,520 Speaker 3: got beat out by a sixth round pick, Christian Benford 443 00:24:20,560 --> 00:24:25,080 Speaker 3: from that same draft. So he was available here going 444 00:24:25,080 --> 00:24:27,359 Speaker 3: into the last year of his contract, and the Cowboys 445 00:24:28,160 --> 00:24:34,160 Speaker 3: traded for him. Last year, he played in thirteen games, 446 00:24:34,200 --> 00:24:41,760 Speaker 3: started four for Buffalo, and so he's and in his career, 447 00:24:42,080 --> 00:24:46,520 Speaker 3: he's got twelve starts in three seasons with two interceptions. 448 00:24:48,440 --> 00:24:49,040 Speaker 3: Still young. 449 00:24:49,520 --> 00:24:50,240 Speaker 2: Just he's young. 450 00:24:50,280 --> 00:24:54,040 Speaker 3: He'll turn twenty four May fifth, so as so he's 451 00:24:54,080 --> 00:24:56,640 Speaker 3: the same age as in fact he may be let 452 00:24:56,640 --> 00:25:02,000 Speaker 3: me look, he is seven months older than Judd A. 453 00:25:02,160 --> 00:25:05,960 Speaker 3: Barron out of Texas. Baron turns twenty four in December 454 00:25:06,600 --> 00:25:09,520 Speaker 3: and Kyrie Elam turns twenty four next month. 455 00:25:10,400 --> 00:25:14,480 Speaker 1: Because as it stands right now, without knowing about Diggs, 456 00:25:15,359 --> 00:25:18,640 Speaker 1: you would have to say, Cayln Carson has to really 457 00:25:18,680 --> 00:25:21,400 Speaker 1: step up and get back to playing the way he 458 00:25:21,440 --> 00:25:24,680 Speaker 1: did in training camp and early in the season before 459 00:25:24,720 --> 00:25:25,439 Speaker 1: he got injured. 460 00:25:25,720 --> 00:25:29,159 Speaker 3: You would think that, even regardless of what happens in 461 00:25:29,200 --> 00:25:32,280 Speaker 3: the draft, that they're looking at another corner veteran guy 462 00:25:32,400 --> 00:25:33,560 Speaker 3: bring in here after the. 463 00:25:33,560 --> 00:25:39,040 Speaker 1: Draft, because my concern about Diggs is I'd like to 464 00:25:39,080 --> 00:25:44,119 Speaker 1: see him out here rehabbing. He's doing it on his 465 00:25:44,119 --> 00:25:45,840 Speaker 1: own again like he did his ACL. 466 00:25:46,720 --> 00:25:47,560 Speaker 3: That concerns me. 467 00:25:49,320 --> 00:25:50,480 Speaker 1: Why wouldn't you do it here? 468 00:25:50,800 --> 00:25:52,879 Speaker 2: So how did he do it with his ACL? 469 00:25:53,240 --> 00:25:53,480 Speaker 3: Well? 470 00:25:54,320 --> 00:25:56,879 Speaker 1: Not as good as I mean, it took him a 471 00:25:56,920 --> 00:25:58,000 Speaker 1: while to get going. 472 00:25:58,160 --> 00:25:59,679 Speaker 4: Do you think it made a difference he was here 473 00:25:59,720 --> 00:26:02,360 Speaker 4: and I'm I'm being Devil's avay, I'm being a jerk here. 474 00:26:02,440 --> 00:26:06,480 Speaker 2: I just because Yeah, I don't know what you know. 475 00:26:06,760 --> 00:26:07,440 Speaker 2: I wish things. 476 00:26:07,520 --> 00:26:12,280 Speaker 4: I wish they had a better connection, yeah, between the two. 477 00:26:12,359 --> 00:26:15,919 Speaker 4: But I got to see what happens with this because 478 00:26:16,560 --> 00:26:19,320 Speaker 4: you know, right now, all we've seen is a lot 479 00:26:19,359 --> 00:26:21,480 Speaker 4: of negativity when it comes to. 480 00:26:21,720 --> 00:26:24,040 Speaker 3: You know, it's almost like it's almost like, you know, 481 00:26:24,080 --> 00:26:28,359 Speaker 3: they do a medical rechecks on draft picks. They go 482 00:26:28,480 --> 00:26:30,600 Speaker 3: back to indian Acay, like if there's a question about 483 00:26:30,600 --> 00:26:33,600 Speaker 3: a player's injury. When they always have to combine in 484 00:26:33,640 --> 00:26:37,080 Speaker 3: late February, they'll do a medical recheck. They fly them 485 00:26:37,080 --> 00:26:40,199 Speaker 3: into Indianapolis to do it again a week before the 486 00:26:40,280 --> 00:26:42,400 Speaker 3: draft or so it would have happened this past week. 487 00:26:42,600 --> 00:26:44,239 Speaker 3: It's almost like you'd like to do it with your 488 00:26:44,240 --> 00:26:47,199 Speaker 3: own veteran players. And in some ways it happens when 489 00:26:47,240 --> 00:26:50,080 Speaker 3: they show up for the voluntary off season preak. It 490 00:26:50,080 --> 00:26:52,360 Speaker 3: can happen that way. But if you don't have them, 491 00:26:52,359 --> 00:26:54,480 Speaker 3: if they don't agree to it, whatever, you like a 492 00:26:54,520 --> 00:26:57,920 Speaker 3: medical recheck right now, see where Trayvon is in his REHAC. 493 00:26:58,080 --> 00:27:01,520 Speaker 4: You would think the January that they're paying him, you know, 494 00:27:01,840 --> 00:27:03,800 Speaker 4: I get that part of it. 495 00:27:03,920 --> 00:27:07,640 Speaker 1: He's also got a workout bonus you can earn if 496 00:27:07,640 --> 00:27:09,280 Speaker 1: he's here in the off season. 497 00:27:09,280 --> 00:27:11,560 Speaker 2: Okay, well that that hadn't begun yet. 498 00:27:11,800 --> 00:27:17,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, well, I would imagine it began last week when 499 00:27:17,280 --> 00:27:17,960 Speaker 1: they start. 500 00:27:18,080 --> 00:27:19,399 Speaker 3: It wasted last Monday. 501 00:27:19,640 --> 00:27:19,800 Speaker 2: Yeah. 502 00:27:19,840 --> 00:27:22,720 Speaker 4: Yeah, but you're you're just you're just talking about appearances 503 00:27:23,359 --> 00:27:27,160 Speaker 4: on the field out there, Yeah, doing work, signing in whatever, 504 00:27:28,320 --> 00:27:32,359 Speaker 4: documenting it. I'm sure he can get. What are the 505 00:27:32,400 --> 00:27:35,080 Speaker 4: maximum amount days that you can have? What's the maximum? Yeah, 506 00:27:35,080 --> 00:27:39,280 Speaker 4: I don't know what's because in the Valley Ranch we had, 507 00:27:39,880 --> 00:27:42,280 Speaker 4: you know, you had like I think a total of 508 00:27:42,320 --> 00:27:44,240 Speaker 4: forty five workouts that you could have had in the 509 00:27:44,240 --> 00:27:47,879 Speaker 4: off season or something like that, and I made like twelve. 510 00:27:49,480 --> 00:27:53,639 Speaker 4: So just think about that necessarily depending on what you 511 00:27:53,720 --> 00:27:59,040 Speaker 4: got going on. It's not necessarily uh you know, warranted 512 00:27:59,320 --> 00:28:00,639 Speaker 4: a mandate or whatever. 513 00:28:00,720 --> 00:28:04,399 Speaker 1: Is what about financially, what would it be worth you 514 00:28:05,320 --> 00:28:07,920 Speaker 1: to make sure you were here working out if it 515 00:28:08,040 --> 00:28:08,680 Speaker 1: was today. 516 00:28:08,560 --> 00:28:11,880 Speaker 4: Well, then ain't thirty five thousand? I could take that 517 00:28:13,359 --> 00:28:16,440 Speaker 4: five thousand. So that's what I was dealing with now. 518 00:28:16,400 --> 00:28:17,159 Speaker 2: Right, he was. 519 00:28:17,240 --> 00:28:21,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, He's like, now we're probably in at least one hundred. 520 00:28:21,119 --> 00:28:21,359 Speaker 2: Yeah. 521 00:28:21,560 --> 00:28:23,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know if I turned my nose up 522 00:28:23,840 --> 00:28:24,280 Speaker 3: on that. 523 00:28:24,280 --> 00:28:24,920 Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying. 524 00:28:24,960 --> 00:28:27,240 Speaker 3: All right, when we come back here on mixshots, I'm 525 00:28:27,240 --> 00:28:31,760 Speaker 3: gonna throw another position and another player at you. 526 00:28:31,880 --> 00:28:34,280 Speaker 1: Well, I had was my next would. 527 00:28:34,119 --> 00:28:37,480 Speaker 3: You in the first round when we come back here 528 00:28:37,520 --> 00:28:38,000 Speaker 3: on mix. 529 00:28:37,880 --> 00:28:48,160 Speaker 6: Shots Cowboys Football and Miller Lite. 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And I still 591 00:31:56,720 --> 00:31:58,920 Speaker 1: think you got to keep it in mind. We talked 592 00:31:58,960 --> 00:32:04,719 Speaker 1: about it last week. Uh the cornerback. 593 00:32:05,800 --> 00:32:06,160 Speaker 3: Revel. 594 00:32:06,760 --> 00:32:09,800 Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, that's my guy the. 595 00:32:09,960 --> 00:32:17,600 Speaker 1: Second probably second round, and Doctor Cooper did the ACL 596 00:32:18,400 --> 00:32:20,880 Speaker 1: so they know all about him and they've done that 597 00:32:20,960 --> 00:32:23,320 Speaker 1: before or with guys in the second round. 598 00:32:23,560 --> 00:32:27,560 Speaker 4: And see the thing about any group, whatever group you have, 599 00:32:29,720 --> 00:32:33,160 Speaker 4: the why the defensive back that you want. You want 600 00:32:33,200 --> 00:32:37,600 Speaker 4: someone that has a mentality. Okay, you got guys. You 601 00:32:37,640 --> 00:32:40,360 Speaker 4: know the guy from Michigan, he's you know, Will Johnson's amazing. 602 00:32:40,400 --> 00:32:42,320 Speaker 4: He's got the size. I think that was about my 603 00:32:42,400 --> 00:32:43,880 Speaker 4: size when I came I'm sure he's got a lot 604 00:32:43,920 --> 00:32:46,000 Speaker 4: more muscle than what I had when I came out. 605 00:32:46,240 --> 00:32:49,280 Speaker 4: But these guys are all physically imposing and all of that. 606 00:32:49,360 --> 00:32:49,800 Speaker 2: I get that. 607 00:32:50,440 --> 00:32:56,200 Speaker 4: But besides Travis Hunter, you just don't see DB's with 608 00:32:56,400 --> 00:32:59,720 Speaker 4: that mentality. Travis Hunter has that mentality because he's a 609 00:32:59,760 --> 00:33:00,840 Speaker 4: white receiver. 610 00:33:00,560 --> 00:33:01,960 Speaker 2: As well as a defensive back. 611 00:33:03,040 --> 00:33:05,120 Speaker 4: You know, I was Drew Pearson fans, so I thought 612 00:33:05,120 --> 00:33:07,320 Speaker 4: I was a wide receiver growing up. So every time 613 00:33:07,320 --> 00:33:09,560 Speaker 4: the ball was in the air, I'm thinking it's. 614 00:33:09,480 --> 00:33:15,920 Speaker 3: Mine and that's a Trayvon Diggs mentality. That's what I'm 615 00:33:15,960 --> 00:33:17,040 Speaker 3: looking for in these corners. 616 00:33:17,080 --> 00:33:19,320 Speaker 2: That's why I like you, guy, Rebel. That's why I 617 00:33:19,440 --> 00:33:19,760 Speaker 2: like him. 618 00:33:19,880 --> 00:33:21,960 Speaker 4: I saw the video, the video that you gotta showed 619 00:33:22,000 --> 00:33:26,000 Speaker 4: me last week. There's a mentality that you can see 620 00:33:26,320 --> 00:33:29,560 Speaker 4: as they cover. They're not just going for the cover 621 00:33:29,640 --> 00:33:31,720 Speaker 4: of the knockdown of the heat and not going just 622 00:33:31,760 --> 00:33:34,479 Speaker 4: to strap it down the seatbelt or whatever that crap is. 623 00:33:36,640 --> 00:33:40,640 Speaker 4: He's going that he's looking for the ball. The wide 624 00:33:40,640 --> 00:33:44,200 Speaker 4: receiver is no consequence to him. That's the mentality that 625 00:33:44,280 --> 00:33:46,520 Speaker 4: we have to have here. And on one guy's coming here. 626 00:33:46,560 --> 00:33:48,320 Speaker 4: Oh he can cover. He's physical and all that. 627 00:33:48,600 --> 00:33:48,840 Speaker 2: Great. 628 00:33:48,880 --> 00:33:52,520 Speaker 4: Physicality is one thing, but intelligence and intellect is another thing. 629 00:33:52,840 --> 00:33:55,160 Speaker 4: I want you going after the ball when that ball 630 00:33:55,280 --> 00:33:58,120 Speaker 4: is in the air for you, because when it is 631 00:33:58,160 --> 00:34:01,200 Speaker 4: in the air, it is yours. Is not the knockdown. 632 00:34:01,600 --> 00:34:04,840 Speaker 4: You're going for the I don't want to call it an interception. 633 00:34:05,040 --> 00:34:08,080 Speaker 4: You're just going for the ball. And that's his mentality. 634 00:34:08,160 --> 00:34:12,760 Speaker 1: And all acls are not equal, right, So the Cowboys 635 00:34:12,800 --> 00:34:16,640 Speaker 1: will know everything they needed that scar about his right 636 00:34:17,239 --> 00:34:20,840 Speaker 1: because and they've done that before in the second round. 637 00:34:20,880 --> 00:34:24,200 Speaker 1: So that's that's a thought at the cornerback position. 638 00:34:25,160 --> 00:34:26,919 Speaker 2: I want to get that in before we Yeah. 639 00:34:27,320 --> 00:34:32,040 Speaker 1: So my next position was defensive end at number twelve. 640 00:34:33,760 --> 00:34:36,719 Speaker 1: And I think Bill has a favorite. 641 00:34:36,920 --> 00:34:38,960 Speaker 3: I do I have a favorite, and he's from Georgia. 642 00:34:39,120 --> 00:34:43,239 Speaker 3: There's two defensive ends from Georgia. Jalen Walker's one of 643 00:34:43,280 --> 00:34:47,040 Speaker 3: them who was an off the ball linebacker and so 644 00:34:47,080 --> 00:34:49,680 Speaker 3: he projects is either an off ball linebacker or an 645 00:34:49,800 --> 00:34:52,880 Speaker 3: edge rusher and kind of in the mold of a 646 00:34:52,920 --> 00:34:57,680 Speaker 3: Michael Parsons. And both these guys are really young. I 647 00:34:57,719 --> 00:35:01,680 Speaker 3: think Walker will be gone. He's from carol and uh yeah, 648 00:35:01,719 --> 00:35:05,040 Speaker 3: he'll go. I mean Carolina picks at number eight and 649 00:35:05,280 --> 00:35:10,120 Speaker 3: the Natives are going to be really mad if they 650 00:35:10,160 --> 00:35:13,239 Speaker 3: if the Panthers pass on him. But the guy that 651 00:35:13,320 --> 00:35:16,719 Speaker 3: I like as well is Mikeel Williams. And when I 652 00:35:16,760 --> 00:35:19,879 Speaker 3: look at and he's from Georgia. He'll turn twenty one 653 00:35:19,920 --> 00:35:23,320 Speaker 3: in June. He's twenty years old. He is sixty five 654 00:35:23,480 --> 00:35:27,360 Speaker 3: two hundred and sixty five pounds with thirty four and 655 00:35:27,400 --> 00:35:31,520 Speaker 3: a half inch arms. He play he but he is 656 00:35:31,600 --> 00:35:36,040 Speaker 3: a Georgia bull dog. You you the last week of 657 00:35:36,080 --> 00:35:38,520 Speaker 3: the week before ever since that what we need in 658 00:35:38,560 --> 00:35:41,480 Speaker 3: this draft. We need a dog, right, you. 659 00:35:41,400 --> 00:35:42,960 Speaker 2: Know right, that's right. 660 00:35:43,040 --> 00:35:44,879 Speaker 3: So I went looking for a dog. 661 00:35:44,960 --> 00:35:45,920 Speaker 2: Were looking for it. 662 00:35:46,160 --> 00:35:50,520 Speaker 3: And the way that I look at at what the 663 00:35:50,560 --> 00:35:54,160 Speaker 3: Cowboys have lost on their defensive line and what they've 664 00:35:54,200 --> 00:35:58,960 Speaker 3: added this off season. Okay, think about what they've lost, 665 00:35:59,080 --> 00:36:02,360 Speaker 3: a couple of defense of tackles. But on the Chauncey 666 00:36:02,400 --> 00:36:06,920 Speaker 3: Golston signs with the Giants, DeMarcus Lawrence signs with the Seahawks. 667 00:36:07,640 --> 00:36:12,000 Speaker 3: What they've added are Solomon Thomas is an inside guy 668 00:36:12,320 --> 00:36:15,799 Speaker 3: in a rotation defensive tackle, but he can play at 669 00:36:15,840 --> 00:36:20,440 Speaker 3: times on the outside in a pass rush situation. We've 670 00:36:20,440 --> 00:36:26,120 Speaker 3: got Dante Fowler, who is a he is a speed 671 00:36:26,200 --> 00:36:29,000 Speaker 3: rusher and is another one year and he's on a 672 00:36:29,000 --> 00:36:32,800 Speaker 3: one year contract, six million dollar deal. Uh, They're getting 673 00:36:32,840 --> 00:36:35,880 Speaker 3: Sam Williams back. And Sam so far in his career, 674 00:36:36,000 --> 00:36:39,520 Speaker 3: has shown that he is a sub package edge rusher. 675 00:36:40,400 --> 00:36:43,440 Speaker 3: We haven't seen him in a position to defend the run. 676 00:36:43,360 --> 00:36:46,040 Speaker 1: And they were hoping last year he was that, but 677 00:36:46,160 --> 00:36:47,520 Speaker 1: he never got a chance to show. 678 00:36:47,560 --> 00:36:50,840 Speaker 3: And where I think Michael Williams sets him apart. And 679 00:36:50,840 --> 00:36:53,840 Speaker 3: there's a lot of really good defensive ends, edge rushers 680 00:36:53,960 --> 00:36:56,839 Speaker 3: that going from the first through the fourth round in 681 00:36:56,880 --> 00:36:59,759 Speaker 3: this draft. But where I think Williams sets him apart. 682 00:36:59,800 --> 00:37:01,759 Speaker 3: And in mind when you look at his tape that 683 00:37:02,040 --> 00:37:04,280 Speaker 3: for much of the year last year he was playing 684 00:37:04,320 --> 00:37:08,240 Speaker 3: on a high ankle sprain and he missed several games 685 00:37:08,239 --> 00:37:11,040 Speaker 3: because of it. Came back and he couldn't practice during 686 00:37:11,040 --> 00:37:13,239 Speaker 3: the week. He would just play, which says a little 687 00:37:13,239 --> 00:37:16,560 Speaker 3: bit about us toughness as well. But he defends the 688 00:37:16,640 --> 00:37:20,000 Speaker 3: run and he's got the ability to get to the quarterback. 689 00:37:20,320 --> 00:37:23,120 Speaker 3: And I think I think when he walks in the 690 00:37:23,160 --> 00:37:26,520 Speaker 3: door here, he would be the best run defender of 691 00:37:26,560 --> 00:37:28,879 Speaker 3: what they've got on their defensive line. And I think 692 00:37:28,920 --> 00:37:31,960 Speaker 3: that they have not replayed. My point is I don't 693 00:37:32,000 --> 00:37:34,920 Speaker 3: think they have replaced d Law. And you look back 694 00:37:34,960 --> 00:37:37,560 Speaker 3: at last year when Dee Law went down the fourth 695 00:37:37,600 --> 00:37:40,080 Speaker 3: game of the year. About that same time, they lost 696 00:37:40,080 --> 00:37:45,799 Speaker 3: Parsons for four games. I lost Nielan got hurt during 697 00:37:45,840 --> 00:37:50,480 Speaker 3: that time. But you look at and he was already gone. 698 00:37:50,840 --> 00:37:54,520 Speaker 3: But the loss of DeMarcus Lawrence was huge for this 699 00:37:54,640 --> 00:37:57,200 Speaker 3: team last year. And just think about what he's done 700 00:37:57,239 --> 00:38:00,520 Speaker 3: for the last decade. I think this Michael will Williams, 701 00:38:01,000 --> 00:38:03,839 Speaker 3: he reminds me of Daneil Hunter who came out ten 702 00:38:03,920 --> 00:38:07,680 Speaker 3: years ago. And but he's also got the mentality of 703 00:38:07,719 --> 00:38:11,120 Speaker 3: a DeMarcus Lawrence, and I would I would have no 704 00:38:11,160 --> 00:38:13,840 Speaker 3: problem at all with the Cowboys picking him at number twelve. 705 00:38:13,640 --> 00:38:16,960 Speaker 1: Because the only other thing they did there in the offseason. 706 00:38:16,760 --> 00:38:20,480 Speaker 3: Was Peyton Turner, who is unproven even though it's a 707 00:38:20,520 --> 00:38:22,960 Speaker 3: former first round draft he hasn't gotten on the field, 708 00:38:23,000 --> 00:38:25,880 Speaker 3: but he was like three hundred snaps last year with 709 00:38:25,920 --> 00:38:26,800 Speaker 3: the Saints. 710 00:38:26,600 --> 00:38:32,480 Speaker 1: So defensive end at twelve, you would have no product. 711 00:38:32,719 --> 00:38:36,000 Speaker 3: Yes, right, I think there is still a need there 712 00:38:36,080 --> 00:38:38,120 Speaker 3: despite the fact they've tried to fill it as best 713 00:38:38,160 --> 00:38:41,880 Speaker 3: they can with some pass rushers with the with Dante 714 00:38:42,000 --> 00:38:43,800 Speaker 3: Fowler in free agency. 715 00:38:44,239 --> 00:38:47,240 Speaker 1: See and and and he's probably one of those guys 716 00:38:47,239 --> 00:38:49,200 Speaker 1: someone who's going to say, well, they could trade back 717 00:38:49,239 --> 00:38:50,560 Speaker 1: a few and still get them. 718 00:38:50,560 --> 00:38:54,440 Speaker 3: I've seen, but don't I've seen some people think of 719 00:38:54,800 --> 00:38:58,280 Speaker 3: them as being the second best defensive end of this draft, 720 00:38:58,719 --> 00:39:02,560 Speaker 3: like a fifth pick on their board, and others have 721 00:39:02,680 --> 00:39:05,480 Speaker 3: him twenty second, So who knows. 722 00:39:05,920 --> 00:39:06,880 Speaker 2: See and like. 723 00:39:08,000 --> 00:39:12,600 Speaker 1: I like him more because I've seen the production on 724 00:39:12,719 --> 00:39:16,960 Speaker 1: the field as opposed to the guy from A and M. Right, 725 00:39:17,200 --> 00:39:19,200 Speaker 1: Samar Stewart a workout guy. 726 00:39:19,600 --> 00:39:22,560 Speaker 3: And there's here's another difference. Samar Stewart doesn't have the 727 00:39:22,560 --> 00:39:25,799 Speaker 3: production on the field, but he was just blew out 728 00:39:25,800 --> 00:39:31,000 Speaker 3: the combine right, yes, I mean just his explosion numbers 729 00:39:31,000 --> 00:39:31,399 Speaker 3: are just. 730 00:39:31,719 --> 00:39:32,319 Speaker 2: Through the roof. 731 00:39:32,600 --> 00:39:37,799 Speaker 3: Why didn't he explode? But Michael Williams see see. One 732 00:39:37,840 --> 00:39:41,960 Speaker 3: of the reasons the analysts aren't high on Michael Williams 733 00:39:42,040 --> 00:39:46,000 Speaker 3: is and they're probably scouts in NFL office. They cannot 734 00:39:46,000 --> 00:39:49,000 Speaker 3: stand on the table for Michael Williams because he did 735 00:39:49,160 --> 00:39:51,200 Speaker 3: he has at time, there are no measurables for him. 736 00:39:51,239 --> 00:39:54,120 Speaker 3: I mean, he did a forty at a Georgia pro day. 737 00:39:55,600 --> 00:39:58,960 Speaker 2: Was not just a forty exactly right, exactly. 738 00:39:58,560 --> 00:40:00,720 Speaker 3: And so and one of the reasons as he didn't 739 00:40:00,920 --> 00:40:03,200 Speaker 3: was because their season was so long. He played into 740 00:40:03,200 --> 00:40:06,560 Speaker 3: mid January, and so he wasn't ready yet. 741 00:40:06,840 --> 00:40:12,200 Speaker 4: So when you talked about defensive ends and linebackers can 742 00:40:12,200 --> 00:40:15,880 Speaker 4: be pretty much used the same depending on what side. 743 00:40:15,719 --> 00:40:18,479 Speaker 2: The linebacker's playing. We need a guy. 744 00:40:18,920 --> 00:40:21,839 Speaker 4: If you're talking to replacing DeMarcus Lawrence, then that guy 745 00:40:21,960 --> 00:40:26,040 Speaker 4: has to be run smart and passed rush smart. 746 00:40:26,640 --> 00:40:28,200 Speaker 2: He's got to be able to do both. 747 00:40:29,000 --> 00:40:31,880 Speaker 4: He's got to be able to impact that edge so 748 00:40:32,040 --> 00:40:35,040 Speaker 4: well and then also make a difference when it comes 749 00:40:35,040 --> 00:40:35,560 Speaker 4: to the run. 750 00:40:36,239 --> 00:40:37,439 Speaker 2: Then you want to have that. 751 00:40:37,360 --> 00:40:41,360 Speaker 4: Same push and explosion coming off the edge, off the 752 00:40:41,480 --> 00:40:43,759 Speaker 4: edge and pass. You could also do that with an 753 00:40:43,760 --> 00:40:47,200 Speaker 4: inside linebacker as well, if you've got these guys up 754 00:40:47,280 --> 00:40:50,239 Speaker 4: up front, if we're showing up enough, there have been 755 00:40:50,280 --> 00:40:54,520 Speaker 4: many times when, as with Michael Parsons, a linebacker made 756 00:40:54,560 --> 00:40:57,879 Speaker 4: a difference on this defense. If you can get a 757 00:40:57,920 --> 00:41:02,719 Speaker 4: linebacker that can be a multi talented linebacker with that mentality, 758 00:41:03,239 --> 00:41:06,040 Speaker 4: with that dog that we talked about, if he can 759 00:41:06,080 --> 00:41:10,000 Speaker 4: set that edge as well as run pass rush off 760 00:41:10,000 --> 00:41:12,279 Speaker 4: the edge, that'd be great as well. But also you 761 00:41:12,360 --> 00:41:16,320 Speaker 4: got that inside linebacker, one of those two linebackers being. 762 00:41:16,120 --> 00:41:20,040 Speaker 2: Able to control that that part of his field. 763 00:41:20,600 --> 00:41:22,800 Speaker 4: You're talking about somebody that can make a huge difference 764 00:41:22,800 --> 00:41:24,160 Speaker 4: the way Michael Pawson's did well. 765 00:41:24,200 --> 00:41:27,759 Speaker 3: And they've got a guy that they traded for in 766 00:41:27,840 --> 00:41:33,120 Speaker 3: Kenneth Murray who has those type traits. Now he's played, 767 00:41:33,440 --> 00:41:36,359 Speaker 3: you know, mid linebacker in this league, but you look 768 00:41:36,400 --> 00:41:38,560 Speaker 3: at his traits. He ran a four or five at 769 00:41:38,560 --> 00:41:43,759 Speaker 3: the combine. He's got thirty eight vertical and at six 770 00:41:43,840 --> 00:41:47,320 Speaker 3: two and forty one pounds and he had three and 771 00:41:47,320 --> 00:41:50,560 Speaker 3: a half sacks in fourteen games last year for Tennessee, 772 00:41:50,800 --> 00:41:53,600 Speaker 3: so he was used a little bit getting after the quarterback. 773 00:41:53,880 --> 00:41:56,279 Speaker 1: I would love to know what ibra Flus's plan is 774 00:41:56,680 --> 00:42:01,080 Speaker 1: for Kenneth Murray if he's insider outside and because he's. 775 00:42:00,920 --> 00:42:04,680 Speaker 2: Got thinking like Singletary's. You know, see he was Sam Mills. 776 00:42:04,320 --> 00:42:08,840 Speaker 3: With Overshown overshow he had five sacks last year. And 777 00:42:08,880 --> 00:42:13,000 Speaker 3: see that's what excites me about Kenneth Murray here is 778 00:42:13,080 --> 00:42:16,239 Speaker 3: when Overshown gets back and you pair those guys up, 779 00:42:17,000 --> 00:42:21,680 Speaker 3: and because Murray's athleticism is very similar to what overshowns is. 780 00:42:22,440 --> 00:42:25,920 Speaker 3: And to your point, there are different ways that you 781 00:42:25,960 --> 00:42:28,040 Speaker 3: can affect the quarterback with your linebacker. 782 00:42:28,120 --> 00:42:30,760 Speaker 1: So how do you how do you play the run 783 00:42:30,800 --> 00:42:31,960 Speaker 1: at middle linebacker? 784 00:42:32,600 --> 00:42:34,520 Speaker 2: No way back to the poss's deal. Is this what 785 00:42:34,560 --> 00:42:35,400 Speaker 2: we're talking about? 786 00:42:35,440 --> 00:42:38,640 Speaker 3: Well, they kind of need a linebacker, and especially with Overshown, 787 00:42:38,680 --> 00:42:40,319 Speaker 3: I mean, when's he going to be back? You know, 788 00:42:40,719 --> 00:42:41,760 Speaker 3: I can't imagine. 789 00:42:41,760 --> 00:42:44,480 Speaker 4: So I would I would not be getting a player 790 00:42:44,560 --> 00:42:46,759 Speaker 4: like that out of the out of the box first round. 791 00:42:46,800 --> 00:42:47,920 Speaker 2: I would not be a post to that. 792 00:42:47,960 --> 00:42:52,520 Speaker 3: Well, there's a guy Jihad Campbell from Alabama who is 793 00:42:52,960 --> 00:42:56,360 Speaker 3: he was actually recruited and that he's dealing with a shoulder. 794 00:42:56,080 --> 00:42:58,120 Speaker 1: Elder surgery but after the combine. 795 00:42:58,560 --> 00:43:01,800 Speaker 3: But he is a guy who was actually recruited to 796 00:43:01,840 --> 00:43:05,359 Speaker 3: Alabama to be an edge rusher, but they had edge 797 00:43:05,400 --> 00:43:08,520 Speaker 3: rushers on the team. He was going to be backing up, 798 00:43:08,560 --> 00:43:10,640 Speaker 3: so they put him my linebacker instead, and he played 799 00:43:10,640 --> 00:43:12,759 Speaker 3: so well at linebacker he just kept him a linebacker. 800 00:43:12,840 --> 00:43:16,560 Speaker 3: But he's got those same type traits. And Jalen Walker, 801 00:43:16,680 --> 00:43:19,640 Speaker 3: the one from Georgia, is in that same boat. 802 00:43:19,719 --> 00:43:25,640 Speaker 1: Okay, So the only other option at this point at 803 00:43:25,760 --> 00:43:30,799 Speaker 1: linebacker would be Demone Clark right to play in the middle. 804 00:43:30,880 --> 00:43:35,719 Speaker 3: Well, and then they got the Amorus Leah foul from 805 00:43:36,760 --> 00:43:38,680 Speaker 3: it would be one of third round pick and Jack 806 00:43:38,719 --> 00:43:42,480 Speaker 3: Sanborn and then Santa started three games for ibra Flus 807 00:43:42,520 --> 00:43:43,719 Speaker 3: in Chicago last year. 808 00:43:43,760 --> 00:43:45,799 Speaker 4: Also, let's just remember we gave up a lot of 809 00:43:46,160 --> 00:43:50,160 Speaker 4: yards running in passing. But if you're going to pick 810 00:43:50,239 --> 00:43:54,160 Speaker 4: something first, you gotta stop the run. Yeah, So that's 811 00:43:54,200 --> 00:43:57,799 Speaker 4: why getting one of the bigger guys I would be 812 00:43:57,960 --> 00:43:59,360 Speaker 4: I would not be a posted as. 813 00:43:59,400 --> 00:44:03,279 Speaker 3: Well, but typically you can get those bigger guys in 814 00:44:03,360 --> 00:44:06,480 Speaker 3: later rounds and so in fact, Schottenheimer talked about it 815 00:44:06,520 --> 00:44:09,560 Speaker 3: at the owners meeting. Is building a team from the 816 00:44:09,600 --> 00:44:12,759 Speaker 3: outside end. And if you look at it, if you 817 00:44:12,800 --> 00:44:14,880 Speaker 3: look at the stats the last five years. I just 818 00:44:14,920 --> 00:44:19,480 Speaker 3: saw someone posted this this morning. This morning, first round 819 00:44:19,560 --> 00:44:23,040 Speaker 3: picks at different positions on defense, and it was defensive 820 00:44:23,160 --> 00:44:26,600 Speaker 3: ends and cornerbacks, like in the neighborhood of twenty five 821 00:44:26,680 --> 00:44:29,240 Speaker 3: of them for each have been selected in the last 822 00:44:29,280 --> 00:44:32,080 Speaker 3: five drafts. In the first round, you go to defensive 823 00:44:32,120 --> 00:44:36,120 Speaker 3: tackles and it's like less than ten linebackers and linebacker 824 00:44:36,239 --> 00:44:42,200 Speaker 3: is low too, really, and it's because most teams have 825 00:44:42,280 --> 00:44:46,040 Speaker 3: that same attitude. It's getting the outside guys. For wide 826 00:44:46,080 --> 00:44:50,640 Speaker 3: receivers on offense, there's wide receivers are right up there 827 00:44:50,680 --> 00:44:54,239 Speaker 3: with quarterbacks going in the first round. Yeah right, that's 828 00:44:54,280 --> 00:44:54,919 Speaker 3: exactly right. 829 00:44:55,000 --> 00:44:59,040 Speaker 1: Well, let's look at it this way. They gave up 830 00:44:59,040 --> 00:45:01,440 Speaker 1: one hundred and ninety cards rushing to New Orleans. 831 00:45:01,719 --> 00:45:04,480 Speaker 3: What happened in that game? That was a loss. 832 00:45:05,239 --> 00:45:07,640 Speaker 1: They gave up two seventy four to Baltimore. 833 00:45:07,760 --> 00:45:10,200 Speaker 3: What happened in that game? It was a loss. 834 00:45:10,800 --> 00:45:18,120 Speaker 1: They gave up one eighty four rushing to Detroit two 835 00:45:18,280 --> 00:45:20,400 Speaker 1: twenty three to San Francisco. 836 00:45:20,400 --> 00:45:22,839 Speaker 2: What are we talking about here? Stop me? When they 837 00:45:23,040 --> 00:45:26,680 Speaker 2: won one game whether we so, but that. 838 00:45:27,520 --> 00:45:29,480 Speaker 1: They gave up one hundred to Atlanta. 839 00:45:29,680 --> 00:45:35,360 Speaker 4: That's Thedelphia And we're talking these numbers here. 840 00:45:36,920 --> 00:45:42,799 Speaker 1: From Houston one forty five? Did they win that first 841 00:45:42,840 --> 00:45:43,920 Speaker 1: game against Washington? 842 00:45:44,040 --> 00:45:46,759 Speaker 3: So you're telling me, yes, that was the kick return game. 843 00:45:46,840 --> 00:45:49,920 Speaker 1: Oh, that's right, one forty five to Washington. Wait, I'm 844 00:45:49,960 --> 00:45:51,120 Speaker 1: not done. 845 00:45:51,840 --> 00:45:53,319 Speaker 3: Go back to the previous season too. 846 00:45:53,480 --> 00:45:58,160 Speaker 1: They gave one seventy nine about the Philadelphia second game 847 00:45:58,320 --> 00:45:58,919 Speaker 1: and one thing. 848 00:45:59,000 --> 00:46:02,960 Speaker 4: So did did no one say, hey, let's didn't no 849 00:46:03,000 --> 00:46:05,319 Speaker 4: one start reading off stats like this in front of 850 00:46:05,360 --> 00:46:09,640 Speaker 4: his face, like come on, but I'm sorry. So you're 851 00:46:09,680 --> 00:46:12,919 Speaker 4: saying you said it, not they said it. You said 852 00:46:13,200 --> 00:46:15,600 Speaker 4: they can find some guys that can feel those needs 853 00:46:15,640 --> 00:46:16,560 Speaker 4: later down the road. 854 00:46:16,920 --> 00:46:17,759 Speaker 2: Is that what you know? 855 00:46:17,960 --> 00:46:19,680 Speaker 3: That's that's what the league says. 856 00:46:19,880 --> 00:46:21,840 Speaker 2: Okay, you said that, right, No. 857 00:46:22,120 --> 00:46:24,920 Speaker 3: I said it, But that's because that's what the league 858 00:46:24,920 --> 00:46:29,080 Speaker 3: has done. That where linebacker is usually third round is 859 00:46:29,120 --> 00:46:30,680 Speaker 3: where the run comes on. 860 00:46:30,840 --> 00:46:33,320 Speaker 4: They're trying like they're trying to they're trying to force 861 00:46:34,280 --> 00:46:37,080 Speaker 4: a narrative, Uh that ain't fitting, which. 862 00:46:37,280 --> 00:46:40,520 Speaker 1: Not here speak to defensive tackle right. 863 00:46:42,480 --> 00:46:42,680 Speaker 3: Trying. 864 00:46:42,800 --> 00:46:46,440 Speaker 4: Come on, man, I'm thinking inside outside, they're going outside in. 865 00:46:47,000 --> 00:46:49,799 Speaker 1: Well, they're talking about who can affect the game. 866 00:46:50,719 --> 00:46:54,040 Speaker 3: You know what I'm talking about who. It's funny at 867 00:46:54,040 --> 00:46:57,000 Speaker 3: the same time that they say you build the team 868 00:46:57,040 --> 00:47:00,560 Speaker 3: from the outside end, they also sayamus one in. 869 00:47:02,320 --> 00:47:08,160 Speaker 2: Come on, man, I'm not understanding. So I'm reading out 870 00:47:08,160 --> 00:47:08,680 Speaker 2: the numbers. 871 00:47:09,120 --> 00:47:12,200 Speaker 1: Well, i'll tell you during I have. 872 00:47:12,200 --> 00:47:15,279 Speaker 2: Three heart attexts. Oh no, man, you just got the hitache. Man, 873 00:47:17,320 --> 00:47:23,080 Speaker 2: Come on, my symptoms are there. 874 00:47:23,920 --> 00:47:28,279 Speaker 3: You're treating my number. But the problem is here, it's 875 00:47:28,320 --> 00:47:29,000 Speaker 3: in my chest. 876 00:47:30,520 --> 00:47:32,040 Speaker 2: I don't know, man, I got me on. 877 00:47:32,080 --> 00:47:38,839 Speaker 1: That's why that's why Tyron Tyron Smith's retirement ceremony last week, 878 00:47:39,440 --> 00:47:41,040 Speaker 1: the guy with the biggest smile. 879 00:47:40,760 --> 00:47:43,880 Speaker 3: On his face was a Jason Garrett because that was 880 00:47:44,520 --> 00:47:47,560 Speaker 3: what he wanted to do. That's exactly in the draft, 881 00:47:47,600 --> 00:47:49,920 Speaker 3: and that's what they did with his But that's outside 882 00:47:50,160 --> 00:47:53,160 Speaker 3: Travis Frederick and then there's yeah and so that does 883 00:47:53,280 --> 00:47:58,560 Speaker 3: count as outside. Yeah, tackle is a tackle counts. And 884 00:47:58,600 --> 00:48:00,759 Speaker 3: that's why you got Tyler Guyton last year. 885 00:48:01,080 --> 00:48:02,480 Speaker 2: Okay, And that's. 886 00:48:02,280 --> 00:48:04,160 Speaker 3: Why Mickey says you don't draft a guard in. 887 00:48:04,200 --> 00:48:05,680 Speaker 2: The first round. Don't go out there. 888 00:48:05,719 --> 00:48:06,440 Speaker 3: They're insight. 889 00:48:07,000 --> 00:48:14,040 Speaker 9: Yeah, all right, one more break and then we're going 890 00:48:14,120 --> 00:48:17,680 Speaker 9: to tell you exactly who the Cowboys won't pick. 891 00:48:18,239 --> 00:48:20,680 Speaker 2: When we come back stop. 892 00:48:21,440 --> 00:48:24,480 Speaker 4: Star Sports Tours is the only official fan travel partner 893 00:48:24,480 --> 00:48:28,719 Speaker 4: of the Dallas Cowboys, offering exclusive game weekend travel packages 894 00:48:28,920 --> 00:48:33,759 Speaker 4: with pregame, sideline access and photo ops with current players, cheerleaders, 895 00:48:33,760 --> 00:48:34,960 Speaker 4: and Cowboy legends. 896 00:48:35,080 --> 00:48:35,920 Speaker 2: You want to stay at the. 897 00:48:35,920 --> 00:48:39,200 Speaker 4: Team hotel, attend the best tail gay party in Texas, 898 00:48:39,480 --> 00:48:42,120 Speaker 4: tour the Star and talk ex'es and o's with me 899 00:48:42,440 --> 00:48:46,880 Speaker 4: Everson Walls. 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Guys, who's gonna win? 937 00:51:00,400 --> 00:51:01,520 Speaker 4: I got Mike, He got Michael. 938 00:51:01,560 --> 00:51:06,319 Speaker 1: I got Michael if yeah, I think he's supposed to 939 00:51:06,320 --> 00:51:06,640 Speaker 1: be there. 940 00:51:07,640 --> 00:51:09,600 Speaker 3: Oh, he's been a participant here. 941 00:51:10,040 --> 00:51:11,960 Speaker 2: He loves it, well, he loves it. 942 00:51:12,040 --> 00:51:17,120 Speaker 1: That first year he gave the one of the equipment 943 00:51:17,200 --> 00:51:21,480 Speaker 1: guys that was out there, he gave him one hundred dollars. 944 00:51:21,480 --> 00:51:24,960 Speaker 1: He said, these bats suck. Go buy me for one 945 00:51:25,040 --> 00:51:28,200 Speaker 1: hundred dollars the sporting goods store and got him a bat. 946 00:51:28,320 --> 00:51:30,080 Speaker 3: So maybe they'll get well, he'll come out there with 947 00:51:30,160 --> 00:51:35,160 Speaker 3: a top. That's what I was. There is no doubt 948 00:51:35,719 --> 00:51:38,160 Speaker 3: is going to have a torpedo bat. There's no doubt 949 00:51:39,000 --> 00:51:44,600 Speaker 3: he's probably been going to the batting cage with it already. Yeah, right, okay, 950 00:51:44,680 --> 00:51:45,040 Speaker 3: here we are. 951 00:51:45,480 --> 00:51:45,799 Speaker 2: We are. 952 00:51:45,920 --> 00:51:48,160 Speaker 3: This is our last segment before the draft. 953 00:51:48,160 --> 00:51:50,919 Speaker 1: And at least I don't know how much he's doing, 954 00:51:51,120 --> 00:51:56,000 Speaker 1: but at least he's I've seen him physically here for 955 00:51:57,400 --> 00:52:01,239 Speaker 1: he was here for Tyron Smith's retirement. 956 00:52:03,239 --> 00:52:03,799 Speaker 3: Celebration. 957 00:52:04,520 --> 00:52:11,520 Speaker 2: DA was feeling pretty pretty emotional for Tim. Yeah, he was. 958 00:52:13,080 --> 00:52:18,880 Speaker 1: And you know this thing about him saying, yeah, I 959 00:52:18,880 --> 00:52:19,840 Speaker 1: could play tomorrow. 960 00:52:20,480 --> 00:52:22,040 Speaker 3: Well, they're not going to let. 961 00:52:21,960 --> 00:52:24,080 Speaker 1: Him play tomorrow in the first place. 962 00:52:24,400 --> 00:52:27,200 Speaker 3: And the second place is uh. 963 00:52:27,280 --> 00:52:30,680 Speaker 1: While I've seen him do some of the stuff he 964 00:52:30,760 --> 00:52:35,160 Speaker 1: does on the Resistance chords, he's also did some of 965 00:52:35,200 --> 00:52:40,279 Speaker 1: that without him, right, So he's moving well, he can run, uh, 966 00:52:40,960 --> 00:52:45,120 Speaker 1: but I don't think he wants to go through contact tomorrow. 967 00:52:45,840 --> 00:52:49,000 Speaker 4: Hey, before before we moved to how about timon Smith? 968 00:52:49,000 --> 00:52:51,640 Speaker 4: What do you think guys think about his retirement? What'd 969 00:52:51,640 --> 00:52:52,200 Speaker 4: you think about it? 970 00:52:52,320 --> 00:52:55,560 Speaker 2: Oh? I thought that his legacy here we don't really 971 00:52:55,640 --> 00:52:56,560 Speaker 2: know much about him. 972 00:52:56,840 --> 00:53:01,120 Speaker 1: My first thought was listening to him to read his 973 00:53:01,600 --> 00:53:05,399 Speaker 1: retirement deal that he scripted out, and he cheated us 974 00:53:05,600 --> 00:53:08,240 Speaker 1: because he didn't like talking, right. 975 00:53:08,239 --> 00:53:11,279 Speaker 3: And he's so big. We were afraid to go even 976 00:53:11,280 --> 00:53:12,719 Speaker 3: though he's a nice guy. 977 00:53:12,800 --> 00:53:17,040 Speaker 1: But oh no, no, no, it's okay, yeah, good with me. 978 00:53:17,400 --> 00:53:19,719 Speaker 3: What if those strong hands, what if he grabbed you 979 00:53:19,719 --> 00:53:24,319 Speaker 3: by the neck. He was somewhat profound, right, I didn't 980 00:53:24,320 --> 00:53:26,480 Speaker 3: It was out of It was more out of respect. 981 00:53:27,080 --> 00:53:31,160 Speaker 3: It was really this. I think for reporters, it was 982 00:53:31,200 --> 00:53:35,080 Speaker 3: a respect for Tyran that we didn't bug him because 983 00:53:35,120 --> 00:53:37,640 Speaker 3: we knew that he was a quiet guy whatever, and 984 00:53:37,719 --> 00:53:41,520 Speaker 3: he had in the league as a player. He commands 985 00:53:41,640 --> 00:53:44,200 Speaker 3: that kind of respect from his peers in the league too. 986 00:53:45,680 --> 00:53:47,359 Speaker 1: You think about this, he should have showed up with 987 00:53:47,400 --> 00:53:49,480 Speaker 1: one of those knee braces on his elbow. 988 00:53:49,600 --> 00:53:51,680 Speaker 4: What do you think about his impact on this, on 989 00:53:51,719 --> 00:53:53,160 Speaker 4: the league and on the team itself. 990 00:53:53,239 --> 00:53:53,439 Speaker 2: Oh? 991 00:53:53,480 --> 00:53:58,720 Speaker 1: I thought it was the beginning of the Cowboys restructuring 992 00:53:58,800 --> 00:54:04,600 Speaker 1: their roster because they had suddenly gotten old and expensive 993 00:54:04,719 --> 00:54:08,759 Speaker 1: on the offensive line and they started losing guys retiring. 994 00:54:09,360 --> 00:54:13,040 Speaker 1: And he was the first piece of the puzzle that 995 00:54:14,040 --> 00:54:18,200 Speaker 1: Jason Garrett was like, we got to have this guy, Hudson, 996 00:54:18,280 --> 00:54:19,960 Speaker 1: How we got to have this guy? 997 00:54:20,080 --> 00:54:21,920 Speaker 2: We ran behind him a lot, didn't. 998 00:54:22,120 --> 00:54:24,160 Speaker 3: They did every lot behind him? Right? 999 00:54:24,239 --> 00:54:27,120 Speaker 1: And then you picked up Travis Frederick two years later, 1000 00:54:27,719 --> 00:54:33,839 Speaker 1: and then Zack Martin and Lael Collins. Also that Laye 1001 00:54:33,960 --> 00:54:34,440 Speaker 1: showed up. 1002 00:54:34,480 --> 00:54:37,279 Speaker 3: He was there. He wants to play, by the way. 1003 00:54:37,440 --> 00:54:39,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, so I hear, Laloe, if you get an offer, 1004 00:54:39,960 --> 00:54:42,959 Speaker 1: I just put it out there right because he said, 1005 00:54:43,040 --> 00:54:47,399 Speaker 1: my knee is finally recovered and uh and. 1006 00:54:47,320 --> 00:54:51,280 Speaker 3: He looked he looked like he was the Cowboys Charles. 1007 00:54:51,480 --> 00:54:55,480 Speaker 3: That's right, Iamadnagy the last week, why not him workout? 1008 00:54:55,840 --> 00:54:58,040 Speaker 2: Huh? Now, I just had to hear. 1009 00:54:58,840 --> 00:55:01,239 Speaker 4: You know, we we have some great legacy around here 1010 00:55:01,320 --> 00:55:03,799 Speaker 4: regards to the offensive lineman. As much as we talked 1011 00:55:03,840 --> 00:55:06,359 Speaker 4: about Tyron and how imposing he is, we never really 1012 00:55:06,400 --> 00:55:09,720 Speaker 4: just talk about, you know, how he impacted this team, 1013 00:55:10,239 --> 00:55:12,560 Speaker 4: the culture of this team, and we start talking about 1014 00:55:12,600 --> 00:55:14,719 Speaker 4: the culture of this team. That was the beginning, and 1015 00:55:14,719 --> 00:55:17,280 Speaker 4: that's when we didn't have any great running backs until 1016 00:55:17,640 --> 00:55:18,520 Speaker 4: Oklahoma came. 1017 00:55:19,719 --> 00:55:22,040 Speaker 2: Murray marcol Murray came. 1018 00:55:22,560 --> 00:55:27,400 Speaker 4: I just remember watching him play in against Seattle Seahawks 1019 00:55:27,520 --> 00:55:31,640 Speaker 4: when we went up there and dominated those guys, and 1020 00:55:31,680 --> 00:55:35,600 Speaker 4: that defense was not an easy defense. We smoked them. 1021 00:55:36,120 --> 00:55:38,480 Speaker 4: Murray was running up and down the field and he 1022 00:55:38,080 --> 00:55:40,839 Speaker 4: had to have over one hundred and fifty yards that game. 1023 00:55:41,440 --> 00:55:44,640 Speaker 4: And to watch That's that's when I knew that this 1024 00:55:44,719 --> 00:55:47,520 Speaker 4: team had really arrived, because it was a road game 1025 00:55:47,880 --> 00:55:50,560 Speaker 4: and we're playing against this vaunted defense. 1026 00:55:50,719 --> 00:55:54,080 Speaker 1: And what reminded me about his hands? 1027 00:55:54,400 --> 00:55:55,240 Speaker 3: So they gave. 1028 00:55:55,120 --> 00:55:56,759 Speaker 1: Him a commemorative football. 1029 00:55:57,160 --> 00:55:57,760 Speaker 2: It was. 1030 00:55:59,160 --> 00:56:01,560 Speaker 1: It was a black football. I'm not sure what it 1031 00:56:01,600 --> 00:56:05,319 Speaker 1: was made of. He had his hand around it, and 1032 00:56:05,360 --> 00:56:08,919 Speaker 1: I swear to god, his hand took up half the ball, right, 1033 00:56:09,280 --> 00:56:14,120 Speaker 1: And I'm going I think this happened that someone and 1034 00:56:14,200 --> 00:56:16,680 Speaker 1: I can't remember it was him or flows Al Adams. 1035 00:56:16,719 --> 00:56:21,040 Speaker 1: They nicknamed him Hotel California because for defensive guys you 1036 00:56:21,080 --> 00:56:25,120 Speaker 1: could check out, you could never leave if he got 1037 00:56:25,160 --> 00:56:26,200 Speaker 1: his hand like that. 1038 00:56:27,719 --> 00:56:30,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, and that was him, right. 1039 00:56:30,640 --> 00:56:31,000 Speaker 2: Uh. 1040 00:56:31,080 --> 00:56:35,040 Speaker 1: And and they did a highlight film before the ceremony started, 1041 00:56:35,120 --> 00:56:40,359 Speaker 1: and it just reminded you how dominating dominated was just dominating. 1042 00:56:40,920 --> 00:56:43,200 Speaker 4: I mean, I told you I went on one of 1043 00:56:43,239 --> 00:56:48,960 Speaker 4: those cowboys who whatever, we did something and caravan. Yeah, 1044 00:56:48,960 --> 00:56:51,439 Speaker 4: I don't know what it was, but he his his. 1045 00:56:53,160 --> 00:56:56,680 Speaker 3: Well in the highlight video, you're and for those not 1046 00:56:56,800 --> 00:57:00,759 Speaker 3: watching ever since, is punting towards his I said, but. 1047 00:57:03,560 --> 00:57:03,799 Speaker 2: Five? 1048 00:57:04,160 --> 00:57:07,120 Speaker 3: Well, yes, And in the in the tribute video that 1049 00:57:07,160 --> 00:57:10,279 Speaker 3: they put together, one of the sideline reporters shows the 1050 00:57:10,320 --> 00:57:15,440 Speaker 3: shot of the brace that was on the elbow and 1051 00:57:15,440 --> 00:57:18,320 Speaker 3: and it was a and so she says, that's not 1052 00:57:18,680 --> 00:57:22,040 Speaker 3: an arm brace. That is a leg brace that's on 1053 00:57:22,040 --> 00:57:28,240 Speaker 3: on his arm, and that's a knee brace elbow last night. 1054 00:57:28,240 --> 00:57:31,440 Speaker 4: And I'm glad I have the video of him dancing. 1055 00:57:31,880 --> 00:57:36,160 Speaker 4: So I'm gonna I'm gonna get a ransom from him 1056 00:57:36,240 --> 00:57:36,880 Speaker 4: some kind of way. 1057 00:57:37,000 --> 00:57:40,120 Speaker 3: By the way, twenty fourteen is a pretty good season 1058 00:57:40,160 --> 00:57:42,720 Speaker 3: for this team. Game if not for. 1059 00:57:44,280 --> 00:57:45,640 Speaker 2: That was the year they went to Seattle. 1060 00:57:46,240 --> 00:57:49,120 Speaker 3: They went to Seattle that year. The game you're speaking 1061 00:57:49,240 --> 00:57:52,960 Speaker 3: of had one hundred and fifteen yards rushing in that game. 1062 00:57:53,320 --> 00:57:56,560 Speaker 3: If it was thirty to twenty. I remember Terrence Williams 1063 00:57:56,600 --> 00:57:58,400 Speaker 3: of the catch on the sideline right game was a 1064 00:57:58,920 --> 00:58:02,000 Speaker 3: signature moment that game. So I called up the game 1065 00:58:02,080 --> 00:58:06,720 Speaker 3: logs for DeMarco Murray. In the twenty fourteen season, he 1066 00:58:06,840 --> 00:58:09,800 Speaker 3: cared and for the entire season. And this goes back 1067 00:58:09,840 --> 00:58:14,000 Speaker 3: to the offensive line and what Jason Garrett did convincing 1068 00:58:14,160 --> 00:58:17,520 Speaker 3: Jerry and everybody that we have got to do off 1069 00:58:17,680 --> 00:58:19,600 Speaker 3: we got to take care of this offensive line. And 1070 00:58:19,680 --> 00:58:23,000 Speaker 3: you take Tyron Smith and then you take Travis Frederick 1071 00:58:23,040 --> 00:58:25,800 Speaker 3: and then you take Zach Martin in the first round. Okay. 1072 00:58:26,680 --> 00:58:30,400 Speaker 3: Murray had three hundred and ninety two rushing attempts that 1073 00:58:30,560 --> 00:58:35,600 Speaker 3: season for eighteen hundred and forty five yards, averaged four 1074 00:58:35,600 --> 00:58:41,760 Speaker 3: point seven yards to carry and one two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, ten, 1075 00:58:41,840 --> 00:58:45,720 Speaker 3: eleven twelve one hundred yard games that season. 1076 00:58:46,720 --> 00:58:49,320 Speaker 2: It was so good watching him run. I loved it. 1077 00:58:49,440 --> 00:58:53,560 Speaker 4: Yeah, flashes of ou and this was post acl surgery. 1078 00:58:53,720 --> 00:58:56,360 Speaker 4: Yeah right, yeah, because he used to be much faster, right, 1079 00:58:56,400 --> 00:58:58,880 Speaker 4: It used to be much faster, and then he adapted 1080 00:58:59,320 --> 00:59:03,280 Speaker 4: and became that uh, methodical runner. 1081 00:59:03,960 --> 00:59:07,040 Speaker 2: And you could do that behind an offensive. 1082 00:59:06,600 --> 00:59:12,280 Speaker 1: Line, I think, and I think that Derrick Henry and 1083 00:59:12,360 --> 00:59:15,360 Speaker 1: Saquon Barkley did the entire. 1084 00:59:15,960 --> 00:59:19,320 Speaker 3: Running back field a. 1085 00:59:21,240 --> 00:59:24,240 Speaker 1: Service to remind him what you can do if you're 1086 00:59:24,320 --> 00:59:24,840 Speaker 1: running back. 1087 00:59:25,600 --> 00:59:31,080 Speaker 3: It's really gating, a pointed out in his Players Tribune 1088 00:59:31,360 --> 00:59:34,680 Speaker 3: letter to the all NFL gms. 1089 00:59:34,960 --> 00:59:38,040 Speaker 1: Oh he's And I'll tell you what if you haven't 1090 00:59:38,080 --> 00:59:41,400 Speaker 1: read it, go to the Player's Tribune and see the 1091 00:59:41,520 --> 00:59:45,640 Speaker 1: letter that Ashton Gent wrote and sent it to all. 1092 00:59:45,480 --> 00:59:49,000 Speaker 3: The gms in the league. It's phenomenal. It's tackle football. 1093 00:59:49,240 --> 00:59:52,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I used the. 1094 00:59:52,360 --> 00:59:55,440 Speaker 3: Excerpt draft the guy who can't be tackled is basically 1095 00:59:55,440 --> 00:59:56,000 Speaker 3: what he said. 1096 00:59:56,000 --> 00:59:58,760 Speaker 1: This is tackle football and I can't be He said, 1097 00:59:59,160 --> 01:00:02,600 Speaker 1: see what Barkley did, I can do that, right right. 1098 01:00:03,000 --> 01:00:05,120 Speaker 1: I used that at the bottom of my column last 1099 01:00:05,400 --> 01:00:09,120 Speaker 1: on Friday. Yeah, and just remind you, you know how 1100 01:00:09,760 --> 01:00:15,320 Speaker 1: like ric O'Donnell, he gained more almost sixty percent of 1101 01:00:15,360 --> 01:00:20,800 Speaker 1: his yards the last seven games, right because they finally said, okay, 1102 01:00:20,840 --> 01:00:22,280 Speaker 1: we're sinking our teeth into you. 1103 01:00:22,880 --> 01:00:25,240 Speaker 3: You're the running back because I had a backup quarterback. 1104 01:00:25,560 --> 01:00:29,160 Speaker 4: Yeah, and he produced, but everybody knew we had a 1105 01:00:29,160 --> 01:00:32,080 Speaker 4: backup quarterback still finally able to start running. 1106 01:00:32,120 --> 01:00:35,600 Speaker 1: So I did I factored what he did those last games. 1107 01:00:35,640 --> 01:00:39,480 Speaker 1: If he had done that factored over seventeen games, he 1108 01:00:39,520 --> 01:00:42,760 Speaker 1: would have had a sixteen hundred yard season. He didn't 1109 01:00:42,760 --> 01:00:47,200 Speaker 1: get the opportunity. So the running back does matter, by 1110 01:00:47,240 --> 01:00:51,200 Speaker 1: the way, but we know this wine, Yeah, it matters too. 1111 01:00:51,800 --> 01:00:54,880 Speaker 3: And one of the notes, I'm glad you mentioned that 1112 01:00:54,920 --> 01:00:58,240 Speaker 3: about Jason and his impact on the drafts then, because 1113 01:00:58,280 --> 01:01:01,880 Speaker 3: I think you've got a coach here, yes, Brian Schottenheimer, 1114 01:01:01,880 --> 01:01:03,640 Speaker 3: And I was able to sit down with him last 1115 01:01:03,640 --> 01:01:06,320 Speaker 3: week and talk about the whole approach to the draft, 1116 01:01:06,440 --> 01:01:09,760 Speaker 3: going from the combine when they had the entire coaching 1117 01:01:09,800 --> 01:01:14,240 Speaker 3: staff there and they're studying players and meeting to Pro days, 1118 01:01:14,360 --> 01:01:18,040 Speaker 3: Dallas Day, draft meeting rooms and so forth. And this 1119 01:01:18,080 --> 01:01:21,200 Speaker 3: is what I'd noticed about Schottenheimer the first time I 1120 01:01:21,280 --> 01:01:24,000 Speaker 3: heard one of his press conferences as the offensive coordinator 1121 01:01:24,080 --> 01:01:29,240 Speaker 3: during the regular season last year. Where this guy knows 1122 01:01:29,320 --> 01:01:32,520 Speaker 3: the league. You can tell he knows the players in 1123 01:01:32,560 --> 01:01:39,120 Speaker 3: the league. You can tell he loves scouting players, and 1124 01:01:39,240 --> 01:01:43,919 Speaker 3: he's a grinder. And so what you've had happen over 1125 01:01:43,920 --> 01:01:46,720 Speaker 3: the course of the last few months is he has 1126 01:01:46,840 --> 01:01:51,280 Speaker 3: locked arms with Will McLay and Mitchella point and the 1127 01:01:51,440 --> 01:01:55,360 Speaker 3: entire coach the scouting staff, and he's making sure that 1128 01:01:55,440 --> 01:01:58,760 Speaker 3: his coaches are letting these scouts know this is what 1129 01:01:58,800 --> 01:02:02,480 Speaker 3: we look for in a football and Jerry will listen 1130 01:02:02,640 --> 01:02:07,600 Speaker 3: to a head coach that he respects, his evaluation ability whatever, 1131 01:02:07,640 --> 01:02:10,200 Speaker 3: which is what he did with Jason Garrett going back 1132 01:02:10,240 --> 01:02:13,960 Speaker 3: to when they drafted Tying Smith and Travis Frederick and 1133 01:02:14,040 --> 01:02:17,360 Speaker 3: Zach Martin. And so I really think Schottenheimer is going 1134 01:02:17,400 --> 01:02:19,600 Speaker 3: to have a voice in that room. And Schottenheimer is 1135 01:02:19,600 --> 01:02:21,640 Speaker 3: gonna have a good voice in that room because he's 1136 01:02:21,680 --> 01:02:23,680 Speaker 3: done the homework. He does all the legwork on it, 1137 01:02:24,600 --> 01:02:27,200 Speaker 3: and and and for sure. 1138 01:02:29,280 --> 01:02:34,160 Speaker 1: He understands the other thing that Jason Garrett, when we 1139 01:02:34,160 --> 01:02:39,320 Speaker 1: were talking about Brian Schottenheimer, he goes, well, look, how 1140 01:02:39,680 --> 01:02:43,040 Speaker 1: look where he's raised. And I forgot about this. He goes, 1141 01:02:43,560 --> 01:02:47,200 Speaker 1: you remember Marty Ball, Yeah, you know, and his dad 1142 01:02:48,040 --> 01:02:52,120 Speaker 1: you know it was run the ball, play defense. 1143 01:02:52,160 --> 01:02:55,840 Speaker 3: Especially elt Et, Tomlins and San Diego. 1144 01:02:56,080 --> 01:03:00,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, and run the ball, play defense and have good 1145 01:03:00,080 --> 01:03:00,880 Speaker 1: special teams. 1146 01:03:01,000 --> 01:03:01,760 Speaker 3: He goes in. 1147 01:03:02,160 --> 01:03:06,040 Speaker 1: For some reason, they were successful, except for the ultimate 1148 01:03:06,520 --> 01:03:08,000 Speaker 1: goal was to win. 1149 01:03:08,040 --> 01:03:10,080 Speaker 3: And his Jets team that made it to the AFC 1150 01:03:10,160 --> 01:03:13,560 Speaker 3: Championship game. They led the league in rushing one year 1151 01:03:13,680 --> 01:03:16,240 Speaker 3: and the Seahawks led the league in rushing one year. 1152 01:03:16,520 --> 01:03:20,560 Speaker 3: So when he was OC there, yep, all right, so 1153 01:03:20,680 --> 01:03:21,000 Speaker 3: very good. 1154 01:03:21,040 --> 01:03:21,440 Speaker 1: Here we go. 1155 01:03:21,520 --> 01:03:26,640 Speaker 3: We talked about running backs, wide receivers, cornerbacks, defensive ends. 1156 01:03:26,680 --> 01:03:28,920 Speaker 3: And so I can't wait to see what offensive lineman 1157 01:03:28,960 --> 01:03:31,720 Speaker 3: the Cowboys pick of the first round, or the defense 1158 01:03:31,840 --> 01:03:39,320 Speaker 3: on or the tackle. All right, And so we'll be 1159 01:03:39,400 --> 01:03:42,600 Speaker 3: back to wrap it all up next Monday, eleven am. 1160 01:03:42,600 --> 01:03:45,320 Speaker 3: Here on Mickshops Cowboys. 1161 01:03:45,920 --> 01:03:48,920 Speaker 6: This has been a production of dallascowboys dot Com and 1162 01:03:49,040 --> 01:03:50,920 Speaker 6: the Dallas Cowboys football Club