WEBVTT - Mariners team preview 0:00:00.080 --> 0:00:03.280 On paper and what you've seen in the last six weeks. Yeah, 0:00:03.279 --> 0:00:06.040 it looks really talented. But whether or not there's some 0:00:06.080 --> 0:00:08.720 consistency for the course of the season remains. 0:00:08.360 --> 0:00:08.799 To be seen. 0:00:12.840 --> 0:00:17.720 You've got gott Yes, I got writer for the Seattle Times, 0:00:17.840 --> 0:00:20.439 Ryan Divish. We're just all charged up today because we're 0:00:20.440 --> 0:00:24.040 covering two of the three most frustrating fan bases in 0:00:24.160 --> 0:00:28.160 Major League Baseball right now, or frustrating organizations, not fan bases. 0:00:28.240 --> 0:00:29.600 But Ryan, how you doing, man. 0:00:29.960 --> 0:00:33.960 I'm good, I'm good. We haven't talked to in Haver, Montana. 0:00:34.000 --> 0:00:36.560 Getting ready to go to spring training tomorrow. It's minus 0:00:36.600 --> 0:00:37.080 twenty five. 0:00:37.159 --> 0:00:40.880 Yere, stop it are you serious? 0:00:41.200 --> 0:00:43.200 Yeah? 0:00:45.120 --> 0:00:46.920 You must have in your house. 0:00:47.360 --> 0:00:50.519 Yeah, we have the fire going. It's it's not what 0:00:50.560 --> 0:00:51.680 you want right now. 0:00:52.479 --> 0:00:54.720 Wait, how far is again? I've never Okay, so there's 0:00:54.720 --> 0:00:57.720 I've been almost everywhere. I've never been to Montana. How 0:00:57.720 --> 0:00:59.560 far is where you live to Seattle? 0:01:00.640 --> 0:01:02.840 It's about twelve hours. So I live here. 0:01:03.120 --> 0:01:05.080 I live in Montana in the off season, and then 0:01:05.080 --> 0:01:07.880 I go back to Seattle during the season. I got 0:01:07.880 --> 0:01:09.560 to get away from the traffic and everything, so I 0:01:09.600 --> 0:01:12.480 come back to Montana. I live my hometown's got about 0:01:12.480 --> 0:01:13.479 seven thousand people. 0:01:14.920 --> 0:01:17.919 Opposed to like Billings and Great Falls and all that stuff. 0:01:17.959 --> 0:01:20.280 Is that I'm about an hour and a half from 0:01:20.280 --> 0:01:20.960 Great Falls. 0:01:21.920 --> 0:01:24.440 Billings is about four hours, and then we're about twenty 0:01:24.440 --> 0:01:26.000 five miles from the Canadian border. 0:01:26.280 --> 0:01:28.199 Scenic Medicine Hat is on the other side. 0:01:29.200 --> 0:01:32.920 M Do you moose stuff? Because I've always wanted to 0:01:32.959 --> 0:01:34.800 do that. Do you moose hunt and all that stuff. 0:01:35.280 --> 0:01:37.760 I don't hunt anymore because I technically still have a 0:01:37.880 --> 0:01:42.240 Washington driver's license, so it's been pretty expensive. But my 0:01:42.319 --> 0:01:45.119 buddies moose hunt, elk hunt, They do all that stuff. 0:01:45.160 --> 0:01:47.920 I mean, there's deer in our in the in the 0:01:48.000 --> 0:01:50.360 town walking around all the time that are pretty big, 0:01:50.480 --> 0:01:53.080 I know, like Seeger and all those guys come up 0:01:53.080 --> 0:01:55.200 here to hunt all the time, and they tell me 0:01:55.200 --> 0:01:55.840 how great it is. 0:01:55.880 --> 0:01:57.000 But I don't get to do that anymore. 0:01:57.000 --> 0:02:00.000 I'll go out with my cousins or my buddies right 0:02:00.080 --> 0:02:02.880 in the truck and then help them drag the animal out, 0:02:02.920 --> 0:02:04.680 which is not exactly the ideal either. 0:02:04.800 --> 0:02:07.520 That's the worst job in the world. That's the job 0:02:07.560 --> 0:02:09.320 you don't want. You don't want that job. 0:02:10.200 --> 0:02:11.800 That's how you get arms like that though. That's how 0:02:11.840 --> 0:02:14.320 you get arms like that. Would you rather stay home 0:02:14.440 --> 0:02:16.240 or go to spring training? Because everybody wants to go 0:02:16.280 --> 0:02:18.880 where it's warmer. I have a feeling you would love 0:02:18.960 --> 0:02:20.040 to stay in Montana. 0:02:20.080 --> 0:02:21.240 But tell me if I'm wrong. 0:02:21.600 --> 0:02:24.600 No, I'm ready for I'm ready for something warmer. Spring 0:02:24.639 --> 0:02:27.000 training is a grind though, man like it is. It's 0:02:27.040 --> 0:02:29.920 every day and and but I'm looking forward to it. 0:02:29.919 --> 0:02:31.960 It's it's really easy this year with the Mariners. I 0:02:32.000 --> 0:02:33.560 know all the players on the team. They didn't add 0:02:33.560 --> 0:02:36.120 anybody new, so I don't have to you know, I 0:02:36.120 --> 0:02:38.400 don't know if it's all easy. 0:02:39.080 --> 0:02:41.320 I just had the joke I was ready to go, 0:02:41.520 --> 0:02:44.200 and then I only haven't one. I have nothing else 0:02:44.240 --> 0:02:46.480 to say. You know, all the players are ready. So 0:02:46.560 --> 0:02:48.840 let's before we even dig in. 0:02:48.919 --> 0:02:51.119 I just got to no, you know, I got asked 0:02:51.120 --> 0:02:53.400 before we even hit the storylines, and I think one 0:02:53.400 --> 0:02:56.120 of them this isn't even in there. But they're world 0:02:56.120 --> 0:02:58.720 series winner. That's why they didn't add anybody. We heard 0:02:58.720 --> 0:03:01.520 the GM say it their world series ready Ryan. 0:03:01.639 --> 0:03:04.600 So now with the storylines, well, let's yeah, let's hit 0:03:04.600 --> 0:03:06.160 it because I want to ask him about it. So 0:03:06.560 --> 0:03:17.680 here's the fancy front end four storylines at least just broke. 0:03:17.760 --> 0:03:19.720 We'll get right to the big stuff at the top 0:03:20.560 --> 0:03:23.280 and with the Ems eventually deal a starter for a bat. 0:03:23.320 --> 0:03:26.160 Obviously they haven't done it up to this point. Let's 0:03:26.160 --> 0:03:29.040 make spring summer for Julio Rodriguez and see if he 0:03:29.080 --> 0:03:32.600 can figure out the beginning of the season. And also 0:03:32.639 --> 0:03:35.320 for this Seattle team, we'll get to their flashy outfield, 0:03:35.480 --> 0:03:38.080 which they've done a nice job building up. Randy roserain 0:03:38.160 --> 0:03:40.400 of trade last year, picked up Victor Roeblaze, signed him 0:03:40.400 --> 0:03:42.640 to an extension. He was good for them down the stretch. 0:03:42.680 --> 0:03:46.240 And then the classic fifty four chance, will they tilt 0:03:46.360 --> 0:03:49.320 towards the top of that number or the bottom where 0:03:49.360 --> 0:03:52.440 you just miss the postseason, which has been a pretty 0:03:52.480 --> 0:03:55.040 sexy thing for the front office to do lately. 0:03:55.680 --> 0:03:56.440 All right, here we go. 0:03:57.200 --> 0:04:01.320 Teams broke, and they fixed it by bringing back the 0:04:01.360 --> 0:04:07.560 same team. Polanco signs back Solano for Josh Rojas, and 0:04:07.600 --> 0:04:08.440 there's your Mariners. 0:04:08.440 --> 0:04:16.600 Of your thoughts, it was less active than I thought. 0:04:17.040 --> 0:04:19.400 I figured they would do something more than they did. 0:04:19.880 --> 0:04:21.720 I think their intention was to do something more than 0:04:21.720 --> 0:04:25.200 they did. But when you only have fifteen million dollars 0:04:25.200 --> 0:04:28.880 of payroll, and you you know, payroll flexibility, you just 0:04:28.920 --> 0:04:29.960 don't have a lot to do. 0:04:31.760 --> 0:04:32.839 They looked at. 0:04:32.760 --> 0:04:35.799 Signing Carlos Santana. They felt like he would be great 0:04:35.839 --> 0:04:38.839 fit at first base, kind of a platoon with Luke Rayley, 0:04:39.279 --> 0:04:41.159 good leader in the clubhouse, he's a he's been a 0:04:41.160 --> 0:04:45.600 pretty good mentor for Julio Rodriguez. But you know, the 0:04:45.640 --> 0:04:48.640 poll of going back to Cleveland, which not many people 0:04:48.680 --> 0:04:50.640 say in their lives, but the poll of going back 0:04:50.680 --> 0:04:53.760 to Cleveland, to the place where it started his career 0:04:54.200 --> 0:04:56.520 was more important for Carlos than maybe a little bit 0:04:56.600 --> 0:05:00.960 more money and a second year. So they kind of 0:05:01.000 --> 0:05:03.360 pivoted went to Donovan Solana, who is a nice pickup, 0:05:03.360 --> 0:05:06.599 Don't get me wrong. He's a nice pickup if you 0:05:06.680 --> 0:05:09.200 have a finished product as a team. But when you 0:05:09.360 --> 0:05:12.679 have questions at second base, third base, first base, that's 0:05:12.839 --> 0:05:14.839 just not enough. Now they go out and get planco, 0:05:15.880 --> 0:05:18.040 you know, bring him back there, hoping for a bounce back. 0:05:18.520 --> 0:05:23.479 But I mean, Jerry Depoto was kind of hamstrung with 0:05:23.920 --> 0:05:27.680 the minimum amount of payroll flexibility provided by ownership, and 0:05:28.360 --> 0:05:31.360 you know, they really didn't find any trades for their prospects. 0:05:31.360 --> 0:05:32.680 I think they felt like they were going to be 0:05:32.680 --> 0:05:35.000 able to move some of their prospects to get a 0:05:35.000 --> 0:05:38.080 major league hitter. It just didn't happen, because, you know, 0:05:38.360 --> 0:05:42.000 more teams believe they can compete than ever before. So 0:05:42.040 --> 0:05:44.520 you really only have the White Sox and Marlins as 0:05:44.640 --> 0:05:47.720 teams that are selling off pieces. Obviously the Rockies should be, 0:05:47.720 --> 0:05:50.080 but they don't even know what they're doing. So you've 0:05:50.120 --> 0:05:53.120 got maybe three teams that were in a position where 0:05:53.160 --> 0:05:55.880 they might value prospects over major league talent. But all 0:05:55.920 --> 0:05:58.159 the major league talent on those two teams is gone. 0:05:58.560 --> 0:06:01.280 So they just couldn't find a way to make a 0:06:01.320 --> 0:06:06.159 trade work and for their prospects. And with fifteen million dollars, 0:06:06.160 --> 0:06:07.880 I mean, that doesn't buy you a lot. You know, 0:06:07.920 --> 0:06:10.440 it's like going to It's like going to a convenience 0:06:10.440 --> 0:06:12.520 store with a dollar. What does it buy you anymore? 0:06:14.160 --> 0:06:16.960 Maybe like a half a Snicker's bar or something, maybe 0:06:17.040 --> 0:06:19.560 a water like the generic water. 0:06:20.480 --> 0:06:21.920 Can Julio. 0:06:22.320 --> 0:06:25.760 Can Julio start hot? Because if he starts hot, like 0:06:25.920 --> 0:06:28.839 right alligate April, right away, he could be an MVP. 0:06:30.640 --> 0:06:33.520 Yeah, I mean it's important. He doesn't even have to 0:06:33.560 --> 0:06:36.520 start out hot. He just has to start off something 0:06:36.560 --> 0:06:38.920 better than he's beenning like each of the last three years. 0:06:38.920 --> 0:06:41.200 I mean the first year, he was a rookie, so 0:06:41.440 --> 0:06:43.000 you cut him some slack, and he had a bunch 0:06:43.040 --> 0:06:45.040 of calls, kind of a lot of call third strikes 0:06:45.040 --> 0:06:47.000 on him that didn't go his way. You know, we'd 0:06:47.000 --> 0:06:49.479 written stories about kind of the rookie treatment with the 0:06:49.480 --> 0:06:52.440 strikes on. But the last two years he's come in 0:06:52.480 --> 0:06:56.080 with the intention of starting off hot and didn't. And 0:06:56.360 --> 0:06:59.120 I think you know, once you you know, you get 0:06:59.160 --> 0:07:01.680 through the first week and you haven't done maybe what 0:07:01.720 --> 0:07:03.440 you were expecting. Then you start to chase, and you 0:07:03.440 --> 0:07:06.040 start to chase and it just builds. And really last 0:07:06.120 --> 0:07:09.800 year it was more than just April and May. It 0:07:09.920 --> 0:07:13.600 was almost through the All Star break. You in twenty 0:07:13.640 --> 0:07:17.680 twenty three, he was a little bit better after June, 0:07:17.760 --> 0:07:19.280 and then he got really hot in July, and then 0:07:19.320 --> 0:07:22.280 August was absurd. But it took him so long to 0:07:22.320 --> 0:07:26.360 get going last year. You know that it's a problem. 0:07:26.480 --> 0:07:28.560 They have to find a way. I think he's in 0:07:28.600 --> 0:07:30.640 a better spot to handle it. I think he's in 0:07:30.680 --> 0:07:33.880 a better spot mentally physically. I think you know, what 0:07:33.960 --> 0:07:36.040 he did in the last six weeks of the season 0:07:36.080 --> 0:07:39.280 with the influence of Edgar Martinez getting them to refocus 0:07:39.360 --> 0:07:42.080 on driving the ball up the middle and to the 0:07:42.120 --> 0:07:45.080 right center gap and kind of getting away from you know, 0:07:45.160 --> 0:07:47.200 trying to yank the ball over the wall in. 0:07:47.160 --> 0:07:48.760 The field was big. You know. 0:07:48.920 --> 0:07:52.560 Increase the contact rate, and he makes such hard contact 0:07:52.560 --> 0:07:54.920 when he does hit it. Increase the contact rate a 0:07:54.960 --> 0:07:57.640 little bit more and good things will happen. His approach 0:07:57.720 --> 0:07:59.920 was better with two strikes, His approach was better with 0:08:00.040 --> 0:08:03.160 runners in scoring position. I think that'll carry over. You know, 0:08:03.280 --> 0:08:05.600 last year he made some swing changes in the offseason 0:08:05.880 --> 0:08:08.720 that didn't help, and he couldn't get his rhythm and 0:08:08.760 --> 0:08:12.640 timing down early and all those things. And really, you know, 0:08:12.720 --> 0:08:14.440 you can talk about what they didn't did or do 0:08:14.960 --> 0:08:16.720 didn't or did do in the. 0:08:16.640 --> 0:08:18.040 Offseason, which wasn't much. 0:08:18.120 --> 0:08:20.840 But if the team's going to be good, it's going 0:08:20.920 --> 0:08:23.559 to be based on whether or not Julio goes. Because 0:08:23.560 --> 0:08:27.800 when he's going, even at an above average rate, not 0:08:27.840 --> 0:08:31.240 even at his elite level, they're a lot different team. 0:08:32.320 --> 0:08:32.640 Agreed. 0:08:32.640 --> 0:08:34.120 Do you know why, I he'll be better because they 0:08:34.120 --> 0:08:35.839 have Kevin Sitz there's a new hitting coach. And he 0:08:36.320 --> 0:08:38.679 hates home runs, so he's gonna definitely tell him to 0:08:38.760 --> 0:08:41.040 hit singles right and not hit home runs. 0:08:41.080 --> 0:08:43.400 Trust me, I know, I played for him for two years. 0:08:44.360 --> 0:08:45.440 Huge fan, I think. 0:08:45.760 --> 0:08:47.440 But if he hits the ball. 0:08:47.480 --> 0:08:49.800 The thing with Julio is when he hits the ball 0:08:49.840 --> 0:08:52.080 hard to write field, it's a gap. Usually it's not 0:08:52.120 --> 0:08:54.520 a single, you know, like and you know how it 0:08:54.600 --> 0:08:56.160 is with some of these hitters. They're going to listen 0:08:56.160 --> 0:08:57.640 to what they want to listen to, and they're going 0:08:57.720 --> 0:08:59.320 to do what they want to do. I mean, I 0:08:59.320 --> 0:09:02.160 think Bram Brown figured that out last year when he 0:09:02.200 --> 0:09:04.520 got with his team and tried to implement some stuff 0:09:04.520 --> 0:09:06.480 and they just some of the guys were resistant to it. 0:09:07.720 --> 0:09:10.719 But I do think, like for Julio, there was a 0:09:10.760 --> 0:09:14.520 bottoming out point last season where everything he had done 0:09:14.600 --> 0:09:16.560 and everything he had done on his own and the 0:09:16.559 --> 0:09:19.319 work he had done in the off season just wasn't working. 0:09:20.080 --> 0:09:22.920 And you hit that rock bottom point as a superstar 0:09:22.960 --> 0:09:25.000 and you struggle more than you ever have in your career, 0:09:25.320 --> 0:09:27.280 you start listening to maybe the right people, and I 0:09:27.320 --> 0:09:29.880 think with Edgar, just the idea of hit the ball 0:09:29.960 --> 0:09:32.360 hard up the middle, use the field, you know, and 0:09:32.440 --> 0:09:35.200 hit it hard and don't focus on where you're hitting 0:09:35.240 --> 0:09:35.800 it hard to I. 0:09:35.800 --> 0:09:38.920 Think is really important. And really Edgar is still the 0:09:39.000 --> 0:09:41.040 overriding He's the director of their hitting. 0:09:41.080 --> 0:09:43.160 I mean, they don't call him an offensive coordinator like 0:09:43.360 --> 0:09:45.079 they did with Brent Brown, but he's the director of 0:09:45.080 --> 0:09:48.160 their hitting philosophy. So I think you know, you'll see 0:09:48.240 --> 0:09:50.559 Edgar working with the guys that want to work with him, 0:09:50.559 --> 0:09:52.200 and then Sites is going to have to work with 0:09:52.280 --> 0:09:52.800 the rest of the. 0:09:52.720 --> 0:09:53.360 Guys as well. 0:09:54.760 --> 0:09:55.360 Got it all right? 0:09:55.400 --> 0:09:57.560 So what about the rest of the outfield? Can can 0:09:58.000 --> 0:10:02.199 Edgar and siteser get Rose Arena to be less streaky? 0:10:02.200 --> 0:10:04.079 Because when he's hot, he's like he's I mean, he's 0:10:04.080 --> 0:10:05.600 the hottest guy on the planet. But then when he's not, 0:10:06.120 --> 0:10:07.640 I mean he's there's a lot of strikeouts and a 0:10:07.640 --> 0:10:09.560 lot of people are standing there going, man, he's striking 0:10:09.559 --> 0:10:13.000 out a lot, right. But then you have Victor Roblaz, 0:10:13.040 --> 0:10:15.160 who came over last year and was a revelation for him. 0:10:15.200 --> 0:10:17.920 So is this outfield good enough with a good Julio, 0:10:18.360 --> 0:10:22.040 a Rose Arena and Roblaze to make these Mariners good? 0:10:22.920 --> 0:10:25.240 It certainly has the potential to be better than it's been. 0:10:25.320 --> 0:10:27.880 I mean, like you look up from an athleticism standpoint, 0:10:27.960 --> 0:10:31.160 you know, Randy had twenty bags last year stolen I 0:10:31.280 --> 0:10:34.280 Robos had over thirty. Who had over thirty. Like they 0:10:34.280 --> 0:10:35.959 can run the bases, they can go get it in 0:10:35.960 --> 0:10:38.520 the outfield. Randy can be a little indifferent in the outfield. 0:10:38.840 --> 0:10:39.720 But you are concerned. 0:10:39.800 --> 0:10:42.120 I mean, like the concern is this is like if 0:10:42.120 --> 0:10:46.520 you look at Randy's numbers, they've steadily trended lower each year, 0:10:46.679 --> 0:10:48.760 and you know, and that was you know, even when 0:10:48.760 --> 0:10:50.600 you're hitting in the AL East, which is a heck 0:10:50.600 --> 0:10:52.560 of a lot more hitter friendly than the AO West, 0:10:53.360 --> 0:10:55.920 So there is some concern there. You know, the swinging 0:10:55.960 --> 0:10:58.240 mis numbers are a little bit higher. And Roboa is, 0:10:58.280 --> 0:11:00.880 i mean for six hundred games of his MLB career 0:11:01.000 --> 0:11:03.319 was kind of a disappointment. And then he gets to 0:11:03.400 --> 0:11:06.200 Seattle and at the new start, and I think under 0:11:06.240 --> 0:11:09.040 Scott's service is you know, the previous manager kind of 0:11:09.120 --> 0:11:11.280 let him just be who he is. You know, I 0:11:11.280 --> 0:11:14.080 think Davey Martinez got tired of who Victor Roblaz was 0:11:14.440 --> 0:11:17.280 for much of his time in DC, but like Service 0:11:17.360 --> 0:11:19.920 kind of let him go and he flourished, but is 0:11:19.920 --> 0:11:21.800 he going to be the guy that hit three thirty 0:11:22.200 --> 0:11:24.000 for sixty some games or is he going to be 0:11:24.040 --> 0:11:25.960 the guy that was like a two twenty seven hitter 0:11:26.320 --> 0:11:28.840 with LOWBP and lots of base running mistakes and all 0:11:28.880 --> 0:11:31.360 that stuff that he was with DC. So I think 0:11:31.440 --> 0:11:34.040 that's there's a lot of questions about whether or not 0:11:34.120 --> 0:11:37.400 this outfield is good. Like on paper and what you've 0:11:37.440 --> 0:11:40.640 seen in the last six weeks, it looks really talented, 0:11:40.679 --> 0:11:43.760 but you know, whether or not there's some consistency for 0:11:43.800 --> 0:11:45.760 the course of a season remains to be seen. 0:11:47.120 --> 0:11:51.080 Obviously, we talk about fifty four chance of making the 0:11:51.080 --> 0:11:52.280 playoffs every year. 0:11:52.720 --> 0:11:54.640 It can't it can't not be brought up. 0:11:55.280 --> 0:12:00.520 But how much wider is this window open with this 0:12:00.800 --> 0:12:04.719 elite rotation, the best rotation in baseball? And are they 0:12:04.760 --> 0:12:07.320 going to take advantage of it after they missed the 0:12:07.360 --> 0:12:11.640 wild card by one game one game last year, all 0:12:11.720 --> 0:12:13.439 that down that they had and they missed it by 0:12:13.480 --> 0:12:18.360 one game with a rotation that could dominate the entire playoffs. 0:12:19.080 --> 0:12:22.400 Yeah, it's I mean, like you look at it and 0:12:22.440 --> 0:12:25.080 you wonder if they've gotten that much better, But you 0:12:25.120 --> 0:12:27.600 also think, well, is Mitch Garver going to be as 0:12:27.640 --> 0:12:30.520 bad as he was last year, or is JP Crawford 0:12:30.600 --> 0:12:32.079 going to be as bad as he was last year? 0:12:32.120 --> 0:12:35.400 You know, those guys really struggled and so maybe the 0:12:35.520 --> 0:12:38.120 bounce back will help them get over the top. But 0:12:38.160 --> 0:12:42.439 also those guys that rotation, they made more starts than 0:12:42.480 --> 0:12:45.480 any team in baseball, Like you know that group of 0:12:45.520 --> 0:12:49.120 five guys, you know, they they all made more starts, 0:12:49.120 --> 0:12:53.880 their rotation, pitched more innings than any rotation in baseball, 0:12:53.920 --> 0:12:56.760 and they only use seven starters. You know, you in 0:12:56.800 --> 0:13:00.280 an era where very few guys go two hunt stars, 0:13:00.480 --> 0:13:03.720 these guys all were up there at that level. And 0:13:04.320 --> 0:13:07.960 you know what you wonder is will they be able 0:13:08.000 --> 0:13:10.160 to sustain that sort of consistency and that sort of 0:13:10.200 --> 0:13:13.800 health for an entire season. Again, you know, George Kirby, 0:13:13.960 --> 0:13:16.440 Logan Gilbert did not miss to start, Bryce Miller did 0:13:16.480 --> 0:13:17.200 not miss the start. 0:13:17.480 --> 0:13:18.360 Brian wu had. 0:13:18.240 --> 0:13:21.679 Some hamstring issue and some elbow stuff early, and Luis 0:13:21.679 --> 0:13:23.600 Castillo had a hamstring issue. I mean, like they only 0:13:23.679 --> 0:13:26.240 used two other starters, Emerson Hancock and Jonathan Diaz. Like 0:13:26.280 --> 0:13:29.600 that just doesn't happen in Major League baseball anymore. But 0:13:30.320 --> 0:13:31.800 you know, if that were the case, if they were 0:13:31.880 --> 0:13:34.600 able to kind of maintain that. Then I think the 0:13:34.679 --> 0:13:37.160 other pieces, you know, if they have bounced back from 0:13:37.160 --> 0:13:38.640 the offense, and I think the big thing is they're 0:13:38.679 --> 0:13:41.880 bullpen getting better, getting Matt Brash back, getting a healthy 0:13:41.920 --> 0:13:42.880 Gregory Santos. 0:13:43.280 --> 0:13:45.719 I think that makes them better than maybe a year ago. 0:13:47.600 --> 0:13:51.480 Right before, I ask you last question, who's cooking behind you? 0:13:51.559 --> 0:13:53.000 What are they making? Because I'm kind of hungry. 0:13:53.960 --> 0:13:57.080 Uh, my girlfriend's daughter is home from school, so she's 0:13:57.080 --> 0:13:58.120 making chicken strips. 0:13:58.160 --> 0:13:59.800 I hope she's making me some sitter. 0:14:00.679 --> 0:14:03.320 That sounds like that sounds like she's cleaning up, but 0:14:03.840 --> 0:14:05.560 hopefully she has some good sauce for you. 0:14:05.640 --> 0:14:06.040 All Right, I. 0:14:06.040 --> 0:14:08.319 Gotta ask you this, since we haven't really talked to 0:14:08.360 --> 0:14:10.599 you about this. They got rid of Scott Service you 0:14:10.640 --> 0:14:13.160 mentioned him, brought in Dan Wilson. What's he going to 0:14:13.200 --> 0:14:14.679 bring to the table. I know we saw him down 0:14:14.679 --> 0:14:16.680 the stretch and they played a little bit better down 0:14:16.720 --> 0:14:18.920 the stretch to get close to the wildcard. What's a 0:14:18.960 --> 0:14:21.120 full year or two of Dan Wilson going to look 0:14:21.160 --> 0:14:22.880 like in the Marritor's dugout. 0:14:24.600 --> 0:14:25.040 I don't know. 0:14:25.320 --> 0:14:27.800 I didn't think it looked that much different last year 0:14:27.840 --> 0:14:30.200 in those last six weeks. I mean, like, you know, 0:14:30.560 --> 0:14:33.320 he's people sat there and said, oh, well, he wants 0:14:33.360 --> 0:14:35.680 to butt more, they want to steal more. I think 0:14:35.680 --> 0:14:38.480 that was just reflective of the situations in the game. 0:14:38.960 --> 0:14:41.840 I do think like his belief and his belief and 0:14:42.360 --> 0:14:45.520 better two strike approach was more important. Maybe that's what 0:14:45.600 --> 0:14:49.440 transitions more. He's definitely a player's manager. I think last 0:14:49.480 --> 0:14:52.400 year he was very cautious in terms of what he 0:14:52.520 --> 0:14:55.120 wanted to say or what he wanted to do because 0:14:55.120 --> 0:14:57.280 he likes Scott's service and he didn't want to kind 0:14:57.280 --> 0:15:00.720 of trash him and you know, and he also didn't 0:15:00.720 --> 0:15:02.280 want to make a lot of ways. He just kind 0:15:02.280 --> 0:15:04.000 of wanted to see what they could do in those 0:15:04.040 --> 0:15:06.400 last six weeks and see if they could piece it together. 0:15:06.600 --> 0:15:09.200 But these guys this year, I think we'll see a 0:15:09.240 --> 0:15:12.000 little bit more. I think Dan, you know, we'll kind 0:15:12.040 --> 0:15:14.080 of step forward and be a little bit more vocal. 0:15:14.120 --> 0:15:16.520 I do know, like if you could recall last year, 0:15:16.600 --> 0:15:18.120 a Rose Arena had an incident. 0:15:18.240 --> 0:15:19.160 I can't remember which team. 0:15:19.200 --> 0:15:20.880 It was just kind of you know, how he takes 0:15:20.920 --> 0:15:22.800 pitches and some of the he got hit by a 0:15:22.840 --> 0:15:25.200 pitch and some stuff, and there's some gawing back and forth. 0:15:26.840 --> 0:15:28.920 I watched Dan Wilson pull him aside and have a 0:15:29.000 --> 0:15:31.680 very frank conversation with him about kind of how you 0:15:31.720 --> 0:15:34.080 handle things on the field and you know, not getting 0:15:34.280 --> 0:15:36.320 putting your teammates in a bad position to maybe get 0:15:36.360 --> 0:15:39.080 take one in the back. And I think stuff like that. 0:15:39.560 --> 0:15:41.640 We may see a little bit more. But from an 0:15:41.680 --> 0:15:45.880 overall scheme standpoint or philosophy standpoint, other than being better 0:15:45.960 --> 0:15:48.200 with two strikes, which I know Scott servis preached too, 0:15:48.600 --> 0:15:51.480 I don't think we'll see a lot because it's especially 0:15:51.560 --> 0:15:54.200 the same roster. I mean, they can't really can't really 0:15:54.200 --> 0:15:57.400 set it up to play any differently than before. Maybe 0:15:57.400 --> 0:15:59.960 the pieces are a little healthier and they can run more, 0:16:00.440 --> 0:16:02.560 or maybe the pieces are a little healthier and they 0:16:02.560 --> 0:16:06.680 won't platoon as much. But from the from the overall standpoint, 0:16:06.680 --> 0:16:10.440 I mean the GM and ostensibly Jerry Depoto, they control 0:16:10.520 --> 0:16:12.120 so much of how the team is set up and 0:16:12.120 --> 0:16:14.240 how the team is going to play that you know 0:16:14.320 --> 0:16:16.440 the manager is there to make sure that the culture 0:16:16.480 --> 0:16:18.520 and everything else is in a good place. 0:16:19.360 --> 0:16:19.760 Akay. 0:16:19.800 --> 0:16:22.320 The lineup is set every day by the front office. 0:16:22.520 --> 0:16:26.400 This is not one of those maybe this is here's 0:16:26.480 --> 0:16:28.200 the lineup. Put it up on the card. 0:16:29.160 --> 0:16:31.560 I'm not I'm not going there. It's like fifty four 0:16:31.600 --> 0:16:32.280 percent jokes. 0:16:32.320 --> 0:16:34.760 The next the first funny The next funny one I 0:16:34.760 --> 0:16:37.280 hear will be the first funny one. But like now, 0:16:37.520 --> 0:16:41.440 those are always funny, Ryan, this is modern, but modern 0:16:41.440 --> 0:16:44.360 baseball anymore is so different about the lineup and lineup instruction. 0:16:44.720 --> 0:16:47.880 But like you know, they are set up to have 0:16:48.000 --> 0:16:50.840 the platoon. They are set up. It's at several positions. 0:16:50.840 --> 0:16:52.320 I know a lot of people hate that, but that's 0:16:52.320 --> 0:16:54.760 where their talent level is and that's how they're playing. 0:16:54.840 --> 0:16:57.560 It is kind of strange to me that in so 0:16:57.600 --> 0:17:01.360 many ways for a team that has a market and 0:17:01.400 --> 0:17:04.119 a fan base and a popularity as much as it does, 0:17:04.160 --> 0:17:07.040 that they try and operate like the Rays in terms 0:17:07.119 --> 0:17:10.560 of cost cutting and overall philosophy when they could be 0:17:10.640 --> 0:17:14.080 something more than that. Nobody's asking them to be the Dodgers, 0:17:14.080 --> 0:17:16.639 and nobody says they have to be the Mets. But 0:17:16.760 --> 0:17:21.080 there is a different area that they can get to, 0:17:21.080 --> 0:17:22.800 a next level tier that they could get to in 0:17:22.880 --> 0:17:26.000 terms of investment into this team, I just think is 0:17:26.080 --> 0:17:31.640 lacking and until that thinking changes and winning and making 0:17:32.440 --> 0:17:35.920 the postseason becomes more than a spoken priority. 0:17:36.280 --> 0:17:39.200 I don't see it changing from that point. 0:17:39.320 --> 0:17:42.119 And I don't even know that a fan base reacting 0:17:42.119 --> 0:17:44.320 negatively and not showing up would change it either. 0:17:45.080 --> 0:17:48.280 Yeah, they got to be in on the Japanese guys, Ryan, 0:17:48.640 --> 0:17:49.679 how are they not in on? 0:17:50.040 --> 0:17:51.359 How are they not in on those guys? 0:17:51.359 --> 0:17:55.280 I mean I was there when the euro came over 0:17:55.359 --> 0:17:59.920 right in Sazakiki, right, the splitter, this closer guy came 0:18:01.080 --> 0:18:03.560 Kassazaki right, I mean I was there for those guys. 0:18:03.560 --> 0:18:08.159 That place was insane when it was right, I mean, Ja, 0:18:08.359 --> 0:18:10.320 they already were in on all the Japanese guys. Now 0:18:10.320 --> 0:18:11.160 they don't even bother. 0:18:11.240 --> 0:18:14.040 It's like, why, well they tried with Roki. 0:18:14.119 --> 0:18:16.320 They didn't get an interview, they didn't get the second 0:18:16.359 --> 0:18:21.000 interview after their presentation, So like, I mean, I that's kind. 0:18:20.840 --> 0:18:21.520