WEBVTT - Ep. 177: Good Phil Hunting: Endgame 0:00:04.519 --> 0:00:07.240 Clean, You're gone, and tune your bowl. Where the Hunt 0:00:07.320 --> 0:00:11.560 Collected show calling Hunters new and all the Hunt Collected 0:00:11.640 --> 0:00:17.079 show working pig and shovel or working bening hand. We 0:00:17.239 --> 0:00:22.440 confregate nice lovers of the lake, my ball, and we're focused. 0:00:22.440 --> 0:00:25.520 We're just living for the search of dreaming of the 0:00:25.720 --> 0:00:29.360 fire and a salty gild burn. But we ain't coming 0:00:29.480 --> 0:00:34.159 back till it's colden lake. Taking it slow so we 0:00:34.320 --> 0:00:39.160 can shoot straight clean, You're gone, Tune your bowl. Where 0:00:39.200 --> 0:00:43.280 the Hunt colective show calling Hunters new and all ain't 0:00:43.280 --> 0:00:48.800 no cold, iime told, we're knowing too good. We're all good. No, 0:00:49.200 --> 0:00:53.880 we got feel to eineer calling any shooters blow hard 0:00:53.960 --> 0:00:59.440 times calling and bitter vegans crying Revember, there's always been 0:00:59.600 --> 0:01:05.240 old Brian ruined by reasons are collected by taking it 0:01:05.600 --> 0:01:11.160 slow so we can shoot clean your gun, Jen your bow. 0:01:11.360 --> 0:01:14.759 Where the uncollective show I'm calling Hunters new and all 0:01:15.600 --> 0:01:23.080 uncollective show with thanks or fanks and opinions are subjective. 0:01:23.080 --> 0:01:34.720 You're listening to the whole collecting. Hey, everybody, Welcome to 0:01:34.800 --> 0:01:40.920 the last episode, the final episode, never gonna be heard 0:01:41.120 --> 0:01:45.440 or seen again. Phil the Engineer and Benjamin Patrick O'Brian, Phil, 0:01:45.520 --> 0:01:48.920 how are you, sir? I'm doing great, I am, I'm 0:01:48.960 --> 0:01:52.560 I'm refreshed after our our weekend. Yeah, we had quite 0:01:52.600 --> 0:01:57.640 We had quite the adventure. Tricky hunting in May in 0:01:58.280 --> 0:02:01.559 Montana requires lots and naps and there's a little sleep. 0:02:02.360 --> 0:02:07.480 We went through many, several i'll say days and nights 0:02:07.720 --> 0:02:09.760 where we went to bed at eleven and got up 0:02:09.760 --> 0:02:11.959 at what three thirty? Yes, so it leaves you a 0:02:12.000 --> 0:02:14.399 little loopy, It leaves you a little strong out. Yeah, 0:02:14.480 --> 0:02:17.400 well it's it's not just it's not just the couple 0:02:17.480 --> 0:02:20.000 hours asleep. It's then the you know, twelve hours of 0:02:20.080 --> 0:02:25.119 hiking that happened in the days after that. Yes, it's 0:02:24.919 --> 0:02:29.520 it's you know, thirteen hour days rolling around, uh, trying 0:02:29.520 --> 0:02:33.560 to find turkeys, finding turkeys, doing the dance. Everything we 0:02:33.639 --> 0:02:37.720 love about hunting. We've been doing it this week and 0:02:37.720 --> 0:02:40.680 and it's been it's been awesome. Even though Phil and 0:02:40.720 --> 0:02:42.760 I do this show together, we didn't really haven't really 0:02:42.760 --> 0:02:44.720 spent that much time together. You know, you don't really 0:02:44.760 --> 0:02:47.799 spend that much time together with anybody outside of your family, 0:02:47.800 --> 0:02:51.680 your close friends, you know that much time, you know, 0:02:51.720 --> 0:02:54.440 twelve thirteen, like you said, pretty much an entire day 0:02:54.919 --> 0:02:58.200 going through the ups and downs. And so it's been 0:02:58.240 --> 0:03:00.560 fun man's planning getting to know you. And as I'll say, 0:03:00.560 --> 0:03:03.480 as you'll hear a lot on this podcast, Phil, Phil 0:03:03.520 --> 0:03:08.240 came out strong. I tried my best. I knew, I 0:03:08.320 --> 0:03:12.440 knew what we were doing out there, making making some 0:03:12.560 --> 0:03:15.160 making a good podcast. And you know, this was my 0:03:15.160 --> 0:03:16.880 first Hunt. I wanted to I wanted to get know. 0:03:17.120 --> 0:03:21.120 I didn't want to slack. Yes, you did not slack. 0:03:21.360 --> 0:03:24.119 It's very impressed after all the talk about what would happen. 0:03:24.160 --> 0:03:27.120 It's very impressed. But I also was impressed by you know, 0:03:27.360 --> 0:03:30.359 obviously weeks ago, roughly a month ago, we announced the 0:03:30.440 --> 0:03:33.600 end of the show, and and over time, you know, 0:03:34.240 --> 0:03:37.240 a lot of great commentary has trickled in and we've 0:03:37.240 --> 0:03:39.160 been thankful for that. We've been thankful for that our 0:03:39.160 --> 0:03:41.560 final show can be Phil's first Hunt. It means a 0:03:41.560 --> 0:03:43.280 lot to me, it means a lot to a lot 0:03:43.280 --> 0:03:47.040 of people. Um but last week I threw up a 0:03:47.080 --> 0:03:49.960 post on Instagram just to thank everybody, and I think 0:03:49.960 --> 0:03:52.640 that reinvigorated the commentary around the end of the show. 0:03:52.640 --> 0:03:55.600 And I was very appreciative of of all the well 0:03:55.680 --> 0:03:59.520 wishes and very appreciative of everyone that you know, spent 0:03:59.560 --> 0:04:02.360 all this time with us over over the last three 0:04:02.480 --> 0:04:07.640 years and roughly five four months. Long time in my 0:04:07.720 --> 0:04:09.320 life and an important time in my life. So we're 0:04:09.320 --> 0:04:11.880 gonna read a couple of important emails with people that 0:04:11.920 --> 0:04:14.160 wrote in with best wishes and thank you's, and then 0:04:14.200 --> 0:04:18.719 we're gonna get to part two of Phills First Hunt. 0:04:18.880 --> 0:04:20.720 So we got a good ending for you. I think 0:04:20.720 --> 0:04:23.400 you'll like what we have in store. But before we 0:04:23.440 --> 0:04:26.599 get to that co stuff, ote Dr Gus. Now, Dr 0:04:26.640 --> 0:04:28.159 Guss has written in a bunch of times, but he 0:04:28.200 --> 0:04:32.880 wrote a great email to see us out, and he's 0:04:32.920 --> 0:04:37.280 a doctor, so smart man. Dr Guss said, first of all, 0:04:37.600 --> 0:04:39.440 have your Mother's Day to your wives and your mother's 0:04:39.520 --> 0:04:41.960 I hope you all had a great time with family today. 0:04:42.400 --> 0:04:44.160 As I sit here and eagerly await the conclusion of 0:04:44.200 --> 0:04:47.360 Phil's First Hunt, I wanted to express my sincere appreciation 0:04:47.400 --> 0:04:49.279 to both of you for the last couple of years 0:04:49.360 --> 0:04:52.080 on the THC podcast. By now, I'm sure you have 0:04:52.120 --> 0:04:54.159 both received tons of emails and d ms, but I 0:04:54.160 --> 0:04:56.479 had to write you before the finale to share with 0:04:56.520 --> 0:04:59.760 this podcast and this cult has meant to me. I'm 0:04:59.800 --> 0:05:02.520 a vascular surgeon Houston, Texas, which means I don't have 0:05:02.520 --> 0:05:06.280 a lot of time in the outdoors a vascular surgeon film. Wow, 0:05:06.440 --> 0:05:09.760 this is the upper crust talking about attracting the best. Here, 0:05:09.839 --> 0:05:12.479 Dr Gus trying to manage a busy practice in a 0:05:12.520 --> 0:05:15.279 family I adore, leaves little time for me to pursue 0:05:15.320 --> 0:05:18.159 my passion of hunting. In fact, before I listen to 0:05:18.160 --> 0:05:21.560 your podcast, I really didn't know that hunting is conservation. 0:05:21.920 --> 0:05:24.039 I had no idea what the Pittman Robinson Act was, 0:05:24.960 --> 0:05:28.320 or how serious c w D is public land access 0:05:28.360 --> 0:05:31.440 hunt recruitment, or the pillars of the North American model 0:05:31.560 --> 0:05:34.760 of conservation. I joined b h A and TRCP and 0:05:34.800 --> 0:05:38.159 donated to the Army F because of th HC. I 0:05:38.200 --> 0:05:40.400 didn't know who Valerious Guy Easter Shame My Honey were 0:05:40.680 --> 0:05:43.039 and how vital they are to preserving our hunting traditions. 0:05:43.520 --> 0:05:46.039 I didn't know that just a few hours away from me, 0:05:46.080 --> 0:05:48.760 out in the big empty as he describes it, lives 0:05:48.760 --> 0:05:52.520 a poet, cowboy and trapper Wyman Menzer, who takes the 0:05:52.600 --> 0:05:56.040 most breathtaking pictures of the Texas Plans. I didn't know 0:05:56.200 --> 0:05:58.920 Charles Rodney, an African American man who grew up in 0:05:59.000 --> 0:06:02.400 jim Crow, Louisian in a hunt rabbits with hounds in Maryland. 0:06:03.040 --> 0:06:05.240 Hearing his story of how he grew up in segregated, 0:06:05.320 --> 0:06:09.000 rural Louisiana had a profound effect on me. What an 0:06:09.000 --> 0:06:12.320 amazing man. I didn't know who Colonel Tom Kelly was, 0:06:12.680 --> 0:06:15.119 and that there are people who are more crazy about 0:06:15.120 --> 0:06:19.320 turkeys than deer. I even bought The Tenth Legion because 0:06:19.320 --> 0:06:22.640 of you and read it twice during Turkey season, but sadly, 0:06:22.680 --> 0:06:24.840 I have yet to go on a turkey hunt. I 0:06:24.880 --> 0:06:28.440 didn't know Canadian bear biologists could be so damn sensitive. 0:06:28.760 --> 0:06:30.960 Every Tuesday morning, when I walk out my door, I 0:06:31.000 --> 0:06:33.600 make sure the latest episode is downloaded so I can 0:06:33.640 --> 0:06:35.560 listen to it on my drive to work and back home. 0:06:36.120 --> 0:06:38.920 I called it Tuesday's with th HC. Well that's nice, Phil, 0:06:39.279 --> 0:06:41.400 Tuesday's with HC. Why didn't you think of that? I 0:06:41.440 --> 0:06:44.640 didn't think that was great. It was my It was 0:06:44.680 --> 0:06:47.240 my hour and a half of outdoor education. To me, 0:06:47.320 --> 0:06:49.279 it was a time where I could escape the rigors 0:06:49.279 --> 0:06:51.240 of my job and all the stressers that come with 0:06:51.320 --> 0:06:54.840 life and learn about fellowship and humanity and the appreciation 0:06:54.880 --> 0:06:57.360 of this beautiful world we live in, no matter how 0:06:57.440 --> 0:07:00.440 ugly society gets. To me, the podcast us was my 0:07:00.520 --> 0:07:03.159 virtual bar where we can congregate once a week and 0:07:03.200 --> 0:07:07.040 hear stories in different perspectives. It was fun and beautiful 0:07:07.240 --> 0:07:10.280 and I am so sad to see it go. Nonetheless, 0:07:10.520 --> 0:07:12.520 I am excited for you and your new opportunity with 0:07:12.520 --> 0:07:14.480 Meat either. I just want to thank you and Phil 0:07:14.840 --> 0:07:17.120 for giving so much of your time to this and 0:07:17.240 --> 0:07:20.560 truly incorporating your audience to help shape this podcast, this 0:07:20.640 --> 0:07:23.600 beloved cult we all hold so dear. I hope one 0:07:23.680 --> 0:07:25.920 day we can cross paths and shake hands and tell 0:07:26.040 --> 0:07:29.240 stories and who knows, maybe end up on the same 0:07:29.360 --> 0:07:32.360 public land going after elk or a mule deer or 0:07:32.400 --> 0:07:35.960 even maybe a turkey. But if not, I say to 0:07:36.000 --> 0:07:38.840 you God speed, keep fighting the good fight and keep 0:07:38.840 --> 0:07:41.240 telling your story. You never know where you might who 0:07:41.240 --> 0:07:45.480 you might inspire, even old grumpy surgeons like me. After all, 0:07:45.560 --> 0:07:47.800 I can always tell my kids that I wrote a 0:07:47.880 --> 0:07:50.800 part of the podcast theme song. Maybe then they will 0:07:50.800 --> 0:07:55.280 think I'm cool all the best. Dr Gus Missouri City, 0:07:55.320 --> 0:07:59.360 Texas pretty cool or philm what's your reaction to that one. Yeah, 0:07:59.480 --> 0:08:02.120 that's great. Um, we were we spent some time talking 0:08:02.160 --> 0:08:04.480 about just people's reactions to the end of the show 0:08:04.880 --> 0:08:09.840 out there. Uh, we're hunting this weekend, and um, it's 0:08:09.920 --> 0:08:14.560 those kinds like the one one you just read that 0:08:15.240 --> 0:08:17.960 just just affirm everything that you've been doing here for 0:08:18.000 --> 0:08:21.160 the last couple of years. So it's always that's just 0:08:21.360 --> 0:08:24.560 you know, it's really moving and and sometimes it's it's 0:08:24.560 --> 0:08:28.440 easy to forget after you know, you get some a 0:08:28.480 --> 0:08:30.520 lot of responses on the Internet and then you get 0:08:30.600 --> 0:08:33.520 some that like that one that just kind of tell 0:08:33.600 --> 0:08:36.079 you that you're doing the right thing. So yeah, that's 0:08:36.080 --> 0:08:38.760 really it, man. It's it's emails like that that make 0:08:39.160 --> 0:08:41.360 that have made this show worth doing, and we'll have 0:08:42.280 --> 0:08:44.319 we'll keep it going. You know. It's folks like Dr 0:08:44.360 --> 0:08:47.400 Guss and everybody that has joined our cult over this time. 0:08:48.000 --> 0:08:50.480 It's the ways that it will have shaped me and Phil, 0:08:50.920 --> 0:08:53.000 but more importantly, the ways that I'll have shaped to 0:08:53.080 --> 0:08:56.840 you that you take forward into the future, uh and 0:08:56.880 --> 0:09:01.160 do good with. So I'm happy, uh to have have 0:09:01.240 --> 0:09:03.959 read that email and gotten to know Dr Gusfie email 0:09:04.000 --> 0:09:06.080 and gotten to know so many of you via email 0:09:06.120 --> 0:09:08.520 over time. I mean, I can't if I had to count. 0:09:08.920 --> 0:09:12.680 Right now, there are two thousand three emails stuck in 0:09:12.720 --> 0:09:15.520 the old inbox, and there are eight hundred and fifty 0:09:15.559 --> 0:09:18.160 three that I had to read in the last two 0:09:18.240 --> 0:09:20.600 and a half weeks. It's been a big part of 0:09:20.600 --> 0:09:24.520 this show. And that's that's a fantastic email to end on. 0:09:24.600 --> 0:09:26.400 So thank you, Dr gust. Thank you to everybody that 0:09:26.440 --> 0:09:29.400 ever wrote in to h C at the media dot 0:09:29.440 --> 0:09:32.520 Com that, as we said last week, that will continue. 0:09:32.880 --> 0:09:35.400 You can get at me and even at filled by 0:09:35.400 --> 0:09:40.600 proxy through that email inbox, So keep them coming. But 0:09:40.720 --> 0:09:42.880 I think people came here filled it to hear a story, 0:09:43.200 --> 0:09:46.680 the particular story about your turkey hunt. Now we're gonna 0:09:46.679 --> 0:09:48.760 take it. We're gonna continue to take it linear where 0:09:48.800 --> 0:09:50.640 we left off. If you haven't listened to last week, 0:09:50.679 --> 0:09:53.760 go listen to it now We'll wait. Welcome back. Now 0:09:53.840 --> 0:09:58.199 you're you're salvating after that cliffhanger of last week, right, Phil, 0:09:58.679 --> 0:10:00.560 we went out hunting, we train you up on the 0:10:00.559 --> 0:10:04.720 on the shotgun, we ran into a mutant Turkey. And 0:10:04.760 --> 0:10:06.560 if it turns out that the only video I had 0:10:06.559 --> 0:10:09.800 at the mutant Turkey is the best like most mysterious 0:10:09.960 --> 0:10:12.640 video of said mutant turkey. So if you didn't see 0:10:12.640 --> 0:10:14.840 it on my Instagram stories, I'll put it back up 0:10:14.840 --> 0:10:17.679 there for you. It was fantastic. It was a shadowy, 0:10:17.760 --> 0:10:23.679 just glimpse at the mutant Turkey. But we left you 0:10:23.800 --> 0:10:27.319 at a moment where we had just stepped out into 0:10:27.320 --> 0:10:30.199 the woods for the first time and after a couple 0:10:30.200 --> 0:10:32.480 of years of waiting to get filled out there, and 0:10:32.520 --> 0:10:34.480 we had a little bit of we were crestfallen, at 0:10:34.520 --> 0:10:37.440 least I was. I was immediately in despair, immediately in 0:10:37.440 --> 0:10:39.640 despair that we that I took you to a place 0:10:39.679 --> 0:10:43.600 where turkeys live and no turkeys. We're a goblin Phil. 0:10:44.240 --> 0:10:46.880 And And as as we tracked through this story, you'll 0:10:46.920 --> 0:10:50.120 you'll see that I have my emotional ups and downs 0:10:50.480 --> 0:10:54.240 are very exaggerated, but Phil stays pretty consistent the entire time. 0:10:55.080 --> 0:10:56.920 Tell him about that. Phil, You're happy to be here. 0:10:57.360 --> 0:10:59.000 The weather is nice, and I'm over there going I 0:10:59.040 --> 0:11:02.280 don't even know if I can live. I don't even 0:11:02.280 --> 0:11:05.120 know if you know the step forward. You have years 0:11:05.200 --> 0:11:08.280 of context and experience to kind of, uh, you know, 0:11:08.440 --> 0:11:13.040 put put this hunt into perspective, and I do not. 0:11:13.480 --> 0:11:15.880 So I'm just out there. I think I said in 0:11:15.960 --> 0:11:18.360 one of those videos that you posted on your Instagram that, like, 0:11:18.720 --> 0:11:22.720 if there was a blizzard happening and we're pouring down rain, 0:11:23.360 --> 0:11:26.400 if there were forty mile winds, I might have been 0:11:26.400 --> 0:11:29.320 looking at my clock and looking at you, like staying 0:11:29.320 --> 0:11:32.720 out here. But it was just nice to be outside 0:11:32.720 --> 0:11:35.680 and you know, hearing all that, just all the wildlife 0:11:35.840 --> 0:11:38.760 wake up in the morning. Um, so I was not. 0:11:39.080 --> 0:11:41.600 You know, we weren't hearing any gobbles that morning, but 0:11:41.640 --> 0:11:44.760 I was. I wasn't itching to get out of there. Yeah, 0:11:45.360 --> 0:11:47.400 I was in the game. I was in a different 0:11:47.440 --> 0:11:49.240 game than you were in. Yes, we're trying to relate 0:11:49.240 --> 0:11:51.080 to each other because the game I was in was 0:11:51.080 --> 0:11:53.360 a game success of failure. Yeah, it was a game 0:11:53.440 --> 0:11:56.160 marked by things I had done in the past and 0:11:56.240 --> 0:11:57.720 experience that I had done in the past. I pretty 0:11:57.720 --> 0:12:00.280 consistently would be like Phil, last time I was here, 0:12:01.000 --> 0:12:03.679 the turkeys were over there and they did this. You 0:12:03.760 --> 0:12:07.199 kept trying to justify being there. I don't want to 0:12:07.200 --> 0:12:08.920 say make excuses, that's not what it was. But you 0:12:08.960 --> 0:12:13.479 were trying to really, Yeah, but it was it was unnecessary. 0:12:13.520 --> 0:12:17.720 Desperately provide context so you can understand why I was 0:12:17.760 --> 0:12:21.240 doing the things doing. But we stepped out. You know, 0:12:21.440 --> 0:12:23.240 we explained to you guys that we stepped down. It 0:12:23.280 --> 0:12:25.720 was kind of a for me, a very desperate situation. 0:12:25.760 --> 0:12:27.960 I wanted to have that first morning kind of crescendo 0:12:28.080 --> 0:12:32.640 for Phil did not happen. But we continued as we 0:12:32.640 --> 0:12:34.600 continue the story, we continued, we'll take you into the 0:12:34.640 --> 0:12:38.040 field now. We continued to discuss what it was like 0:12:39.080 --> 0:12:43.959 on that first morning. So, Phil, we're taking a little break. 0:12:44.880 --> 0:12:47.400 We haven't heard of gobels. So for your first daid 0:12:47.400 --> 0:12:50.080 Turkey hangever. We built this up. We talked about it 0:12:50.160 --> 0:13:00.440 for years, and we have, you know, a little false start. Okay, 0:13:00.920 --> 0:13:03.480 that's that's fine. You were you were kind of expecting this. 0:13:03.600 --> 0:13:06.240 I think a little bit at least a little bit 0:13:06.280 --> 0:13:09.360 of a you know, slow start. Yeah. The Turkey poversations 0:13:09.360 --> 0:13:15.960 around here locally aren't great, um, and the opportunities for 0:13:16.040 --> 0:13:18.319 public land which we are sitting on right now are 0:13:18.400 --> 0:13:24.560 not particularly abundant in terms of Turkey habitat, and so 0:13:25.600 --> 0:13:27.720 it's a little tougher. It's a little tougher equation than 0:13:28.000 --> 0:13:34.480 than other places. And I'll also add Phil that I 0:13:34.559 --> 0:13:39.680 have a curse m. Montana. Yeah, you talked about this. 0:13:39.720 --> 0:13:42.200 I was hoping to help you break that curse. So far, 0:13:42.880 --> 0:13:44.400 I haven't had much luck, but I just want you 0:13:44.440 --> 0:13:46.079 to know that I'm I'm trying. You and I have 0:13:46.160 --> 0:13:49.280 killed the same amount of turkeys in Montana. Oh great, Wow, 0:13:50.040 --> 0:13:53.880 that makes me feel pretty good. All right, Well we 0:13:53.960 --> 0:13:56.200 have to talk about the curse, the Montana turkey curse 0:13:56.240 --> 0:13:58.959 that I have going now. Is it do you think 0:13:59.000 --> 0:14:01.600 that contributed to of the final like that that contributed 0:14:01.600 --> 0:14:04.960 to this hunt that I kept talking about the turkey curse? Yes, 0:14:05.040 --> 0:14:07.720 because I would say whenever we I'm not gonna spoil anything, 0:14:07.760 --> 0:14:11.160 but whenever we ran into any bad luck or something 0:14:11.240 --> 0:14:15.920 happened that wasn't great, I think you would mutter something 0:14:15.960 --> 0:14:22.240 under your breath, like God, Curtana. I will give that. 0:14:22.280 --> 0:14:24.920 The context I'll give it there is that I've hunted 0:14:25.280 --> 0:14:29.320 the last couple of years, no more than two days 0:14:29.360 --> 0:14:32.200 in any other state to fill a tag, no more 0:14:32.200 --> 0:14:34.360 than two and any other state. And when I say 0:14:34.360 --> 0:14:38.160 any other state, I'm talking six states total. I've traveled 0:14:38.200 --> 0:14:40.400 to and got tags, and each one of those six 0:14:40.400 --> 0:14:44.320 states I'll field attack and under two days or right 0:14:44.360 --> 0:14:48.600 at the two day mark and sometimes multiple turkeys Montana, 0:14:48.720 --> 0:14:53.320 I'm going on. I gotta be going on day by 0:14:53.360 --> 0:14:55.960 the time me and you get to day two and 0:14:56.040 --> 0:14:58.520 other other days to come. And so really this story 0:14:58.600 --> 0:15:00.560 is about can we break that curse. I keep bringing 0:15:00.600 --> 0:15:03.720 it up because I'm just it's like, that's the baggage 0:15:03.720 --> 0:15:06.240 I'm bringing to this event. Yeah, I'm bringing a lot 0:15:06.320 --> 0:15:10.080 of baggage. You could feel my emotions. I'm sleep deprived. 0:15:10.240 --> 0:15:12.760 I could, and I'm sure the audience can as well. Yeah, yeah, 0:15:12.800 --> 0:15:15.720 sleep deprived. I'm not really I don't understand what I'm doing. Uh, 0:15:16.000 --> 0:15:17.880 even in that audio from the field there, you can 0:15:17.960 --> 0:15:20.480 hear that it we're just both like, I'm just like, oh, 0:15:20.560 --> 0:15:24.040 it's sounds so tired. And so at this point, we're 0:15:24.040 --> 0:15:25.440 just trying. I'm just trying to keep it going. I'm 0:15:25.440 --> 0:15:29.280 trying to keep pushing forward and be positive. But the 0:15:29.320 --> 0:15:34.000 emotional strain is clearly taking its toll heading into morning 0:15:34.080 --> 0:15:37.920 number two. And and to put a bow on day one, 0:15:38.640 --> 0:15:42.000 no gobbles were heard on day one, no turkeys were seeing. 0:15:43.000 --> 0:15:46.320 Nothing happened of note. Day one was a bus Now 0:15:46.360 --> 0:15:52.360 here we go with morning number two. All right, morning 0:15:52.720 --> 0:15:57.400 number two, it is five oh two in the morning. 0:15:58.680 --> 0:16:00.640 Is you can hear my voice? Is will tore up. 0:16:01.960 --> 0:16:04.400 I'll play with the kiddos up early with Phill the 0:16:04.440 --> 0:16:08.800 engineer pulling into the parking lot here, or we'll hike 0:16:08.800 --> 0:16:12.320 out of to meet old Phil. He's on time, fills 0:16:12.360 --> 0:16:17.080 an on time turkey hunter, which I appreciate, and I'll 0:16:17.120 --> 0:16:22.280 see how he's doing this morning. One of the secrets 0:16:22.320 --> 0:16:24.000 of turkey hunting is every time you hear a train, 0:16:24.160 --> 0:16:25.560 we can't figure out if that's the train. Is that 0:16:25.640 --> 0:16:29.240 a train horn? What do you call that the train whistle? 0:16:30.320 --> 0:16:34.680 I think we did that idea. Yeah, listen for the 0:16:34.720 --> 0:16:39.200 che choose. It's technically a whistle. Okay, technically the train whistle. 0:16:40.560 --> 0:16:42.800 If hunting your train tracks, you really got a key 0:16:42.840 --> 0:16:54.320 in on that train whistle. Important musing. But we're on 0:16:54.680 --> 0:16:57.640 this day, day two, and Phils, you have to hear 0:16:57.640 --> 0:17:03.360 a gobble in the wild other than some nuclear turkey 0:17:03.360 --> 0:17:07.359 in somebody's front yard. We need again, we need at 0:17:07.440 --> 0:17:09.360 least hear one. That's it. Just hear one. That's all 0:17:10.920 --> 0:17:14.560 all right. We just heard her first gobble ever and 0:17:14.720 --> 0:17:20.040 fills the first turkey on as I feel it feels 0:17:20.040 --> 0:17:28.439 pretty good. The the descriptive skills of Philly engineer. The 0:17:28.480 --> 0:17:33.680 emotional depth is on full display right now. So we're 0:17:33.680 --> 0:17:35.359 set up in a little blind that I made with 0:17:35.400 --> 0:17:43.720 my son, and we're feeling these birds are just about 0:17:43.720 --> 0:17:46.119 where I thought they would be on their right, tucked 0:17:46.160 --> 0:17:50.480 up on the river. It sounds like last time we 0:17:50.840 --> 0:17:52.920 didn't hear a gobble. Something good to hear the want 0:17:52.960 --> 0:17:56.880 to roost goblin. Now we gotta make decision to stay 0:17:57.000 --> 0:18:00.560 here or do what I've done that asked and bomb 0:18:00.640 --> 0:18:04.359 right up to the private fans there. Let's see what 0:18:04.400 --> 0:18:08.520 we get. We'll keep listening. I have a hard time 0:18:08.600 --> 0:18:12.320 judging distance because this is new to me. How how 0:18:12.359 --> 0:18:16.760 far away do you think that gobble was? Well, that 0:18:16.920 --> 0:18:22.240 rooster's right behind us. That gobble, you know, a quarter 0:18:22.320 --> 0:18:26.479 of a mile, not far from us. I only know 0:18:26.520 --> 0:18:32.760 where where there's another one, back further in the river. Oh, 0:18:33.040 --> 0:18:38.080 it's kind of hard not to go over there. It's 0:18:38.119 --> 0:18:44.640 back where I thought they would probably be. Keep listening, Okay, Phil, 0:18:45.760 --> 0:18:47.320 do you remember what it was like just to hear 0:18:47.359 --> 0:18:50.960 those first distant gobbles in this case, one a couple 0:18:51.000 --> 0:18:53.040 of distant gobbles, but one pretty clear. There was one 0:18:53.119 --> 0:18:56.719 where I was like, Oh, it's happening. Yeah, because we 0:18:56.720 --> 0:18:58.720 had tied those distant ones. You had kind of said, 0:18:58.720 --> 0:19:01.040 it's probably across the river over the chances of them 0:19:01.080 --> 0:19:04.840 coming over from that over from over there pretty slim. 0:19:04.880 --> 0:19:07.840 But then we heard that one that was that sounded 0:19:07.960 --> 0:19:09.840 really close. Yeah he was, I said a quarter a 0:19:09.840 --> 0:19:12.960 mile there, like in in hindsight, Man, he was close 0:19:13.000 --> 0:19:18.480 way five yards maybe less. And at that point you're thinking, 0:19:18.800 --> 0:19:20.960 I mean, we're in the right spot. So we talked 0:19:20.960 --> 0:19:25.360 about it, and we decided we're gonna stay here. As 0:19:25.400 --> 0:19:29.760 I explained in a couple of these clips, Um, we 0:19:29.880 --> 0:19:34.320 just I just feel like these turkeys are in a 0:19:34.400 --> 0:19:36.920 spot where they're either going to filter towards the river. 0:19:37.200 --> 0:19:39.240 They're not going to casually just fly across the river. 0:19:39.640 --> 0:19:43.520 They're either gonna hang out basically where they're roosted, or 0:19:43.560 --> 0:19:45.359 they kind of have to come our way. There's no 0:19:45.440 --> 0:19:48.840 other there's there's really two directions they're gonna go. So 0:19:49.040 --> 0:19:51.800 feeling like we, as we talked about through this entire thing, 0:19:52.200 --> 0:19:54.520 we want to be where they want to be, right 0:19:54.560 --> 0:19:57.520 if we're in a position to be calling from an 0:19:57.520 --> 0:19:59.960 area they're headed to. Anyways, we have a we have 0:20:00.000 --> 0:20:02.320 and I, you know, we can speed up that process, 0:20:02.359 --> 0:20:05.040 and we're just catching when they're gonna get there anyways. Yeah, 0:20:05.200 --> 0:20:09.480 and so we decided to stay right where we were. 0:20:10.480 --> 0:20:17.159 And then this happened. So as as often happens, we 0:20:17.280 --> 0:20:20.680 got on the fly down. We got the bird flew 0:20:20.680 --> 0:20:23.520 down as my guess hit the ground, gobbled once. It 0:20:23.600 --> 0:20:26.640 sounded like he flew down closer to us. And then 0:20:26.680 --> 0:20:33.119 when when quiet, So I kind of predicted that, I 0:20:33.200 --> 0:20:37.000 think a little bit. We haven't haven't heard of goblin 0:20:37.520 --> 0:20:42.480 several minutes. So basically, Phil, we're gonna sit here the way. 0:20:42.760 --> 0:20:45.280 We got no other options. We'll sit here and wait 0:20:46.640 --> 0:20:50.480 and just be ready because you know, turkey's coming in quiet. 0:20:50.640 --> 0:20:52.719 They got great eyesight. They're gonna come and look at 0:20:53.880 --> 0:20:56.400 We'll just hope that when he gets in and tight, 0:20:56.480 --> 0:20:58.720 I'll hit it, you know, just hit him with a call. 0:20:58.960 --> 0:21:02.040 He's tight and kind of shock gobble at us for beating. 0:21:03.040 --> 0:21:08.240 Really be fired up when he's in tight. But we 0:21:08.320 --> 0:21:10.600 got you sit here a while. I just hope that 0:21:10.680 --> 0:21:15.280 he wants to filter this way, check us out. We'll 0:21:15.280 --> 0:21:19.800 call every five ten minutes. I hope to catch his attention. 0:21:20.200 --> 0:21:24.760 It sounded like he was roosted either by himself or Yeah, 0:21:24.800 --> 0:21:26.760 I would say he was either rooster by himself or 0:21:27.320 --> 0:21:32.960 what is some less than vocal hands, But I would 0:21:33.000 --> 0:21:39.840 guess he was by himself. Okay, birds go quiet. This 0:21:39.920 --> 0:21:45.760 often happens. This happens, especially this time of year, pretty 0:21:45.760 --> 0:21:48.879 often more often than i'd like. Where the birds hit 0:21:48.920 --> 0:21:51.120 the ground, they're just being completely quiet. Then you're you're 0:21:51.119 --> 0:21:53.440 in a deer hunting situation. You gotta sit there. You're 0:21:53.440 --> 0:21:56.800 gonna be quiet, you gotta be still, you gotta be vigilant, 0:21:57.040 --> 0:22:01.320 you gotta wait. But we were kind of we went 0:22:01.359 --> 0:22:05.400 from no gobbles to Gobblesville. That's really the underlying clarity 0:22:05.440 --> 0:22:07.200 that we need to be like, you got some cobbles 0:22:07.520 --> 0:22:09.200 and that that when when that bird hit the ground, 0:22:09.200 --> 0:22:14.040 the gobble was close but then quiet. So what are 0:22:14.080 --> 0:22:16.160 you thinking at this point, Phil, where does your mind? Dad? 0:22:16.200 --> 0:22:22.080 We're sitting in that blind I'm trying to remember. I 0:22:22.119 --> 0:22:24.440 honestly think I was starting to lose hope at this point. 0:22:25.880 --> 0:22:32.560 You're finally you finally on my level. Okay, Well, you 0:22:32.600 --> 0:22:37.040 know it's hard to say. It's hard to understand kind 0:22:37.040 --> 0:22:38.399 of like the ups and downs of things like this 0:22:38.480 --> 0:22:41.760 because as we talked about later in this in the story, 0:22:42.480 --> 0:22:45.840 everything in hunting is fiction. The story you've drawn up 0:22:45.880 --> 0:22:48.200 in your head is fiction until it becomes fact. Right. 0:22:48.280 --> 0:22:50.240 It's it's like you've drawn up I drew up a 0:22:50.280 --> 0:22:53.320 story that, like this turkey flies down, he's by himself. 0:22:53.359 --> 0:22:54.680 I don't know if he's by himself or not. He 0:22:54.680 --> 0:22:57.320 could be with I have no idea. I only heard 0:22:57.359 --> 0:23:00.639 one gobble, right, So in my head I've drawn up 0:23:00.680 --> 0:23:03.280 this story that there's a single turkey he heard us, 0:23:03.760 --> 0:23:05.560 he flies down. I hit him as soon as he 0:23:05.600 --> 0:23:07.520 I didn't. We didn't really talk to him while he 0:23:07.560 --> 0:23:08.879 was in the tree. I don't think we talked to 0:23:08.920 --> 0:23:11.000 him't make any noise while he was in the tree. 0:23:11.520 --> 0:23:13.000 But as soon as he hit the ground, I started 0:23:13.040 --> 0:23:16.280