1 00:00:00,680 --> 00:00:02,759 Speaker 1: If you're about to make a change in your life 2 00:00:03,279 --> 00:00:06,380 Speaker 1: and you feel uncomfortable, that's the best feeling you can have. 3 00:00:08,180 --> 00:00:10,400 Speaker 1: Because for the first time in your life, you're making 4 00:00:10,420 --> 00:00:13,780 Speaker 1: a decision that's going to be best for you and 5 00:00:13,820 --> 00:00:16,550 Speaker 1: not what somebody told you to do. And that's when 6 00:00:16,890 --> 00:00:20,069 Speaker 1: all bets are off. Welcome to Money Making Conversation Masterclass. 7 00:00:20,150 --> 00:00:23,330 Speaker 1: I'm your host, Rashawn McDonald. Our theme is there's no 8 00:00:23,410 --> 00:00:26,390 Speaker 1: perfect time to start following your dreams. I recognize that 9 00:00:26,430 --> 00:00:29,250 Speaker 1: we all have different definitions of success for you and 10 00:00:29,290 --> 00:00:31,690 Speaker 1: maybe the size of your paycheck. It's time to stop 11 00:00:31,750 --> 00:00:34,290 Speaker 1: reading other people's success stories and start living your own. 12 00:00:34,810 --> 00:00:43,790 Speaker 1: Keep winning. My guest, a longtime friend, powerhouse and real 13 00:00:43,810 --> 00:00:47,010 Speaker 1: estate broker and designer, Egypt Sherrod, and her husband. He's 14 00:00:47,070 --> 00:00:49,870 Speaker 1: new in my life, like I've stated. Builder Mike Jackson. 15 00:00:49,890 --> 00:00:52,090 Speaker 1: They're based in Atlanta. If you can be a dreamer 16 00:00:52,130 --> 00:00:54,500 Speaker 1: and you want to dream about it, your home, your fantasy, 17 00:00:55,000 --> 00:00:56,900 Speaker 1: your place that you want to rest your head and 18 00:00:56,920 --> 00:00:59,590 Speaker 1: your family, Think about it. Egypt will design it and 19 00:00:59,630 --> 00:01:00,460 Speaker 1: Mike will build it. 20 00:01:00,650 --> 00:01:01,330 Speaker 2: That's a slogan. 21 00:01:01,670 --> 00:01:04,520 Speaker 1: Not mine, that's theirs. They know plenty about juggling the 22 00:01:04,540 --> 00:01:08,020 Speaker 1: booming property business, pleasing clients, managing their home and raising 23 00:01:08,060 --> 00:01:10,920 Speaker 1: three daughters. And they are beautiful daughters, so precious, especially 24 00:01:11,560 --> 00:01:14,209 Speaker 1: the young one. When you have this one scene where 25 00:01:14,230 --> 00:01:16,570 Speaker 1: he's walking around with a pamper on his head, you're. 26 00:01:16,190 --> 00:01:16,690 Speaker 3: Going to love him. 27 00:01:18,390 --> 00:01:21,370 Speaker 1: They make it look effortless and fun in an HGTV series. 28 00:01:21,800 --> 00:01:23,880 Speaker 1: Married to Real Estate. You can also catch Egypt and 29 00:01:23,920 --> 00:01:26,540 Speaker 1: Mike as guest judges in the last season of HGTV's 30 00:01:26,600 --> 00:01:30,399 Speaker 1: mega hit home renovation competition series, Rock the Block, where 31 00:01:30,420 --> 00:01:33,820 Speaker 1: you see four competing teams. We're looking at the renovation. 32 00:01:33,400 --> 00:01:37,330 Speaker 2: King and queen. King and queen of HGTV. 33 00:01:37,700 --> 00:01:38,060 Speaker 4: We do. 34 00:01:38,110 --> 00:01:41,390 Speaker 5: We claim it. Thank you, Rashawn. We appreciate that, love. 35 00:01:41,569 --> 00:01:43,850 Speaker 5: And you are absolutely right. 36 00:01:44,090 --> 00:01:44,929 Speaker 2: I've been around. 37 00:01:44,970 --> 00:01:46,810 Speaker 5: You and I, we know each other quite well. 38 00:01:46,930 --> 00:01:47,590 Speaker 2: Absolutely. 39 00:01:47,950 --> 00:01:48,390 Speaker 6: But it's a good. 40 00:01:48,410 --> 00:01:51,350 Speaker 1: You know, some Egypt... It's a good being around because... 41 00:01:51,530 --> 00:01:53,430 Speaker 1: All the time, I've always seen, first of all, your 42 00:01:53,450 --> 00:01:57,100 Speaker 1: personality has been positive. And one thing I've loved about her, Mike, 43 00:01:57,160 --> 00:02:01,960 Speaker 1: is that, you know, opportunities, she's fearless. Because that's what 44 00:02:01,980 --> 00:02:04,320 Speaker 1: a lot of people do, because met her in radio. 45 00:02:05,540 --> 00:02:07,420 Speaker 1: And so when some people start saying, I want to 46 00:02:07,460 --> 00:02:11,440 Speaker 1: do something else, they can get so locked in and comfortable, 47 00:02:12,130 --> 00:02:15,769 Speaker 1: they don't do it. And so many different levels. And 48 00:02:16,150 --> 00:02:18,280 Speaker 1: that was urban radio that she was in. 49 00:02:18,910 --> 00:02:19,470 Speaker 4: Okay. 50 00:02:19,530 --> 00:02:21,630 Speaker 1: And then she came to, now she's come in into 51 00:02:21,720 --> 00:02:25,320 Speaker 1: another area of, I want to say just, there's not, 52 00:02:25,720 --> 00:02:27,220 Speaker 1: we don't see many black people. We don't see many 53 00:02:27,240 --> 00:02:29,820 Speaker 1: people of color like you two. That's why it's so 54 00:02:29,860 --> 00:02:32,600 Speaker 1: refreshing to see that. And I like to believe this 55 00:02:32,660 --> 00:02:34,100 Speaker 1: is something we're going to see on a regular basis. 56 00:02:34,480 --> 00:02:36,720 Speaker 1: But in seeing the first two episodes of, you know, 57 00:02:36,740 --> 00:02:40,019 Speaker 1: our new series, Marriage to Real Estate, I found a 58 00:02:40,280 --> 00:02:44,690 Speaker 1: family environment that I was engaged with. But more importantly- 59 00:02:45,310 --> 00:02:48,070 Speaker 1: This is what y'all do. I never questioned that you 60 00:02:48,090 --> 00:02:51,250 Speaker 1: guys were a prop. You know what I'm saying? That's 61 00:02:51,270 --> 00:02:53,910 Speaker 1: what can happen. They get a cute couple like you guys. 62 00:02:53,940 --> 00:02:57,520 Speaker 1: You got the cute little children. They say, y'all be 63 00:02:57,560 --> 00:02:58,300 Speaker 1: a great TV show. 64 00:02:58,800 --> 00:03:00,260 Speaker 2: It's no doubt in my mind. 65 00:03:01,720 --> 00:03:03,720 Speaker 1: This is what y'all do. But Egypt, I have to 66 00:03:03,760 --> 00:03:07,210 Speaker 1: go back to this because I call this my masterclass 67 00:03:07,250 --> 00:03:11,490 Speaker 1: series because you're talking about people in a market now. 68 00:03:11,530 --> 00:03:12,970 Speaker 1: We all know it's hard to get a home out 69 00:03:12,990 --> 00:03:13,549 Speaker 1: there nowadays. 70 00:03:14,120 --> 00:03:14,780 Speaker 4: Okay. 71 00:03:14,900 --> 00:03:18,370 Speaker 1: It's sometimes 30 people waiting on the same building and 72 00:03:18,389 --> 00:03:18,790 Speaker 1: trying to. 73 00:03:18,710 --> 00:03:19,190 Speaker 3: Call their home. 74 00:03:19,669 --> 00:03:21,389 Speaker 1: How did y'all, how did y'all able, how are we 75 00:03:21,410 --> 00:03:23,850 Speaker 1: all able to do a series in this type of 76 00:03:23,910 --> 00:03:27,680 Speaker 1: real estate boom where homes are scarce and people are 77 00:03:27,720 --> 00:03:30,820 Speaker 1: trying to make a decision on different properties while you're 78 00:03:30,840 --> 00:03:31,239 Speaker 1: doing a show? 79 00:03:32,550 --> 00:03:35,650 Speaker 5: So, Rashawn, you know, I'm a real estate broker is 80 00:03:35,670 --> 00:03:39,030 Speaker 5: what I've done for 20 years. And that also means 81 00:03:39,050 --> 00:03:43,490 Speaker 5: that I've lived through and strive through and grew through 82 00:03:43,910 --> 00:03:47,350 Speaker 5: every real estate environment. You know, when the bubble burst and, 83 00:03:47,650 --> 00:03:50,070 Speaker 5: you know, people were losing their houses and needed to 84 00:03:50,110 --> 00:03:53,410 Speaker 5: be saved with short, you know, from foreclosures with short sales. 85 00:03:53,530 --> 00:03:55,690 Speaker 5: I coached them through it and help clients through that. 86 00:03:56,090 --> 00:03:59,300 Speaker 5: Now we're in an environment where first time homebuyers are 87 00:03:59,320 --> 00:04:03,900 Speaker 5: being edged out completely experience. Homebuyers are like one of 88 00:04:03,900 --> 00:04:07,150 Speaker 5: 30 different offers and listings are going for 50, 60, 89 00:04:07,150 --> 00:04:11,780 Speaker 5: 70,000 over asking price. I mean, it's crazy out here 90 00:04:11,820 --> 00:04:14,560 Speaker 5: right now, but I think that this is what I've 91 00:04:14,600 --> 00:04:17,700 Speaker 5: been built for. If that makes sense, all these years 92 00:04:18,040 --> 00:04:21,760 Speaker 5: of working through living through existing through buying through renovating 93 00:04:21,800 --> 00:04:24,120 Speaker 5: through in our own lives has prepared us for this 94 00:04:24,180 --> 00:04:27,160 Speaker 5: moment where we can help our clients through. And there, 95 00:04:27,400 --> 00:04:29,720 Speaker 5: if I, if I told you the house and I 96 00:04:29,760 --> 00:04:32,400 Speaker 5: would be, I would be giving away all my tricks 97 00:04:32,460 --> 00:04:35,080 Speaker 5: of the trade when I go up against other offers. 98 00:04:35,110 --> 00:04:37,350 Speaker 5: So I won't go there. But what I will say 99 00:04:37,580 --> 00:04:41,450 Speaker 5: is stay encouraged. And if you're in the market to 100 00:04:41,550 --> 00:04:44,430 Speaker 5: buy a home, make sure all real estate agents were 101 00:04:44,470 --> 00:04:48,430 Speaker 5: not created equal. They were not. You take a class, 102 00:04:48,630 --> 00:04:50,690 Speaker 5: you get a license if you pass the test. But 103 00:04:50,710 --> 00:04:54,250 Speaker 5: what you want is a seasoned, experienced, shown and proven 104 00:04:54,610 --> 00:04:56,950 Speaker 5: real estate professional who can coach you and come up 105 00:04:56,970 --> 00:04:59,950 Speaker 5: with a strategy to help you get successfully to the 106 00:04:59,990 --> 00:05:00,650 Speaker 5: finish line. 107 00:05:00,710 --> 00:05:00,810 Speaker 4: Great. 108 00:05:01,410 --> 00:05:03,729 Speaker 1: Now, Mike, you know, when I Google Egypt, you know, 109 00:05:03,750 --> 00:05:06,370 Speaker 1: a lot of things pop up, pictures, photos, she's posing 110 00:05:06,390 --> 00:05:09,650 Speaker 1: this way, posing this way, television show, television show, you know, 111 00:05:09,890 --> 00:05:13,870 Speaker 1: extensive background in entertainment. You as business, or I just 112 00:05:13,910 --> 00:05:16,430 Speaker 1: see a reference to a business. Give us a little 113 00:05:16,490 --> 00:05:21,240 Speaker 1: background on your journey into a home building or renovations 114 00:05:21,740 --> 00:05:23,690 Speaker 1: and in this market. And so we can get a 115 00:05:23,690 --> 00:05:25,860 Speaker 1: sense of your culture and your expertise. 116 00:05:26,830 --> 00:05:31,200 Speaker 4: Definitely. Definitely. So I've been in construction. I want to 117 00:05:31,220 --> 00:05:32,780 Speaker 4: say since I was a kid, you. 118 00:05:32,680 --> 00:05:35,220 Speaker 3: Know, I started with my uncle and my grandfather, they 119 00:05:35,260 --> 00:05:38,789 Speaker 3: had a construction company and they would always bring me along. Um, 120 00:05:39,680 --> 00:05:43,680 Speaker 3: Future forward, I started with the local 28 trade in 121 00:05:43,720 --> 00:05:47,420 Speaker 3: New York City where I was a journeyman for sheet 122 00:05:47,440 --> 00:05:50,250 Speaker 3: metal work, right? And then I transitioned into owning my 123 00:05:50,290 --> 00:05:53,330 Speaker 3: own company, which is Jackson Draper Renovations, where we pretty 124 00:05:53,370 --> 00:05:59,290 Speaker 3: much do it all. Carpentry, plumbing, electricity, exterior work, all 125 00:05:59,310 --> 00:06:02,870 Speaker 3: of the above. It's myself and my uncle, my partner, 126 00:06:03,029 --> 00:06:04,729 Speaker 3: which is, you'll see him on the show as well. 127 00:06:04,750 --> 00:06:05,430 Speaker 3: His name is Mark. 128 00:06:06,150 --> 00:06:08,180 Speaker 4: Absolutely. this is what I do. 129 00:06:08,220 --> 00:06:10,260 Speaker 3: You know, my wife and I were teaming up, which 130 00:06:10,279 --> 00:06:12,080 Speaker 3: you'll see in the show where we're trying to merge, 131 00:06:12,339 --> 00:06:15,700 Speaker 3: merge the two businesses under one umbrella, you know, bringing 132 00:06:15,730 --> 00:06:17,849 Speaker 3: real estate construction design. Yeah. 133 00:06:18,089 --> 00:06:20,670 Speaker 2: One design house, one design house, but you gotta play. 134 00:06:20,710 --> 00:06:21,830 Speaker 4: You gotta tell us Sean. 135 00:06:22,310 --> 00:06:23,849 Speaker 2: I don't think he knows the full story that that's 136 00:06:23,950 --> 00:06:24,570 Speaker 2: how we met. 137 00:06:25,350 --> 00:06:27,540 Speaker 4: It is how we met, yes. Thank you. 138 00:06:27,560 --> 00:06:28,460 Speaker 3: Thank you, Egypt. 139 00:06:28,480 --> 00:06:30,900 Speaker 1: Help this brother out like you do on the show anyway. 140 00:06:31,000 --> 00:06:33,480 Speaker 2: He's new. 141 00:06:33,540 --> 00:06:36,100 Speaker 4: He's new. It's not that. I was trying not to 142 00:06:36,120 --> 00:06:37,400 Speaker 4: take up too much of the time. 143 00:06:37,440 --> 00:06:37,860 Speaker 3: Really? 144 00:06:37,980 --> 00:06:40,590 Speaker 2: I said this is a master class. We're teaching. 145 00:06:40,930 --> 00:06:43,210 Speaker 1: We're educating people about this beautiful couple. 146 00:06:44,550 --> 00:06:46,540 Speaker 3: Here's what was on my mind is why I didn't 147 00:06:46,580 --> 00:06:48,320 Speaker 3: want to talk too much about me because I wanted 148 00:06:48,360 --> 00:06:50,810 Speaker 3: to piggyback off of the discussion you brought up in 149 00:06:50,820 --> 00:06:53,710 Speaker 3: the beginning. As far as her not being fearless, she's 150 00:06:53,950 --> 00:06:55,910 Speaker 3: beyond not fearless. She's also selfless. 151 00:06:56,110 --> 00:06:56,510 Speaker 6: Yes, she is. 152 00:06:56,550 --> 00:06:59,729 Speaker 3: She's the type to where... She doesn't worry about what 153 00:06:59,790 --> 00:07:02,309 Speaker 3: everyone else is going to think. Despite of what's cool 154 00:07:02,350 --> 00:07:04,190 Speaker 3: or despite what's hot at the moment, she's going to 155 00:07:04,250 --> 00:07:06,250 Speaker 3: do what's going to make sense for her and what 156 00:07:06,290 --> 00:07:09,650 Speaker 3: is going to be successful for those around her, meaning family. 157 00:07:09,970 --> 00:07:12,170 Speaker 3: It's not about the business or the hype of the business. 158 00:07:12,230 --> 00:07:14,590 Speaker 3: It's about, okay, what's smart for the moment and what's 159 00:07:14,610 --> 00:07:16,870 Speaker 3: going to make sense in the future. So that's what 160 00:07:16,890 --> 00:07:18,270 Speaker 3: I wanted to touch on. That's why I didn't go 161 00:07:18,290 --> 00:07:20,230 Speaker 3: too far much into me. I think I'll keep you. 162 00:07:20,310 --> 00:07:20,730 Speaker 2: Thank you. 163 00:07:20,750 --> 00:07:22,090 Speaker 4: So, but yes. 164 00:07:24,210 --> 00:07:27,770 Speaker 3: We met in our early stages. I was actually DJing, 165 00:07:27,830 --> 00:07:29,990 Speaker 3: and I still do periodically around the world. 166 00:07:30,010 --> 00:07:32,810 Speaker 5: We were both radio DJs. That's what I was going 167 00:07:32,830 --> 00:07:33,270 Speaker 5: to tell you. 168 00:07:33,290 --> 00:07:34,370 Speaker 2: When I met you. 169 00:07:34,390 --> 00:07:36,340 Speaker 4: I was a radio DJ. He was a radio DJ. 170 00:07:36,400 --> 00:07:39,540 Speaker 3: We met in three separate incidents, but one of them 171 00:07:40,060 --> 00:07:42,520 Speaker 3: took us back to where I ended up on a rooftop. 172 00:07:42,120 --> 00:07:43,980 Speaker 4: With her because she had her foot in the hole. 173 00:07:44,000 --> 00:07:46,280 Speaker 4: I was stuck in a roof. Trying to seduce and 174 00:07:46,300 --> 00:07:47,140 Speaker 4: kick the shelf. 175 00:07:47,160 --> 00:07:47,280 Speaker 3: What? 176 00:07:47,900 --> 00:07:48,960 Speaker 4: Wait, wait, wait. 177 00:07:49,020 --> 00:07:51,770 Speaker 2: I got to tell the story. Can I tell the story, please? 178 00:07:52,030 --> 00:07:52,730 Speaker 2: Can I tell it? 179 00:07:52,750 --> 00:07:54,090 Speaker 4: I shit up. Rashawn. 180 00:07:54,410 --> 00:07:55,290 Speaker 6: Okay, okay. 181 00:07:55,330 --> 00:07:55,830 Speaker 2: Rashawn. 182 00:07:55,970 --> 00:07:56,190 Speaker 5: Okay. 183 00:07:56,270 --> 00:07:56,690 Speaker 4: Okay. 184 00:07:56,710 --> 00:08:00,810 Speaker 5: So... So I was flipping houses in Newark, New Jersey, 185 00:08:00,870 --> 00:08:03,320 Speaker 5: while I was a radio personality in New York city. 186 00:08:03,350 --> 00:08:03,930 Speaker 3: Right. 187 00:08:04,730 --> 00:08:06,650 Speaker 2: And I'm a Scorpio. 188 00:08:06,870 --> 00:08:09,270 Speaker 5: And what that kind of means is if you back 189 00:08:09,290 --> 00:08:11,370 Speaker 5: me into a corner, my stinger comes up and that 190 00:08:11,610 --> 00:08:12,510 Speaker 5: sometimes goes. 191 00:08:12,330 --> 00:08:15,570 Speaker 2: Over well, but not always over well in business. 192 00:08:15,650 --> 00:08:18,050 Speaker 5: And so what happened was all my contractors walked off 193 00:08:18,090 --> 00:08:18,570 Speaker 5: the job. 194 00:08:18,670 --> 00:08:18,970 Speaker 3: Wow. 195 00:08:19,830 --> 00:08:22,630 Speaker 5: Because I came off way hard. It's hard to be 196 00:08:22,670 --> 00:08:25,430 Speaker 5: a woman working in construction as well. You know, men 197 00:08:25,450 --> 00:08:27,490 Speaker 5: don't always take that well. And so when you, You 198 00:08:27,530 --> 00:08:28,060 Speaker 5: kind of come out. 199 00:08:28,070 --> 00:08:28,890 Speaker 4: Well, I'm going to tell you something. 200 00:08:28,910 --> 00:08:31,620 Speaker 1: Also, in that part of the country, it's really chauvinistic. 201 00:08:32,200 --> 00:08:33,800 Speaker 1: I can tell you for a fact, I've lived in 202 00:08:33,840 --> 00:08:36,360 Speaker 1: New York. I've lived all this country. It gets really 203 00:08:36,380 --> 00:08:38,840 Speaker 1: chauvinistic in that northeast part of the country, especially that 204 00:08:38,860 --> 00:08:39,540 Speaker 1: Jersey area. 205 00:08:40,270 --> 00:08:40,770 Speaker 2: It does. 206 00:08:41,309 --> 00:08:43,870 Speaker 5: So they walked off the job and I later found 207 00:08:43,910 --> 00:08:46,309 Speaker 5: myself trying to tar a hole in the. 208 00:08:46,309 --> 00:08:47,809 Speaker 2: Roof by myself. 209 00:08:48,090 --> 00:08:48,330 Speaker 4: Right. 210 00:08:48,770 --> 00:08:52,280 Speaker 5: Wow. And I fell through the roof. And in that moment, 211 00:08:52,440 --> 00:08:55,079 Speaker 5: I realized I needed some help. I called my mentor 212 00:08:55,120 --> 00:08:56,819 Speaker 5: at the time who referred him. 213 00:08:56,840 --> 00:08:58,300 Speaker 4: This guy. Okay. 214 00:08:58,400 --> 00:09:00,220 Speaker 5: And when he pulled up, I'm like, what are you 215 00:09:00,240 --> 00:09:03,920 Speaker 5: doing here? You're a DJ. 216 00:09:04,220 --> 00:09:04,970 Speaker 4: That's funny. 217 00:09:05,090 --> 00:09:05,750 Speaker 5: That's funny. 218 00:09:05,970 --> 00:09:09,490 Speaker 4: I'm about to rock this rooftop, baby. Right, right, right, right, right, right. 219 00:09:10,110 --> 00:09:14,410 Speaker 1: I'm a moonwalk all over this rooftop, baby. 220 00:09:15,710 --> 00:09:17,710 Speaker 5: I didn't know he was I didn't know he was 221 00:09:17,790 --> 00:09:20,730 Speaker 5: really also a businessman and he was a contractor. And, 222 00:09:20,990 --> 00:09:23,989 Speaker 5: you know, that that DJing was a facet of what 223 00:09:24,010 --> 00:09:25,870 Speaker 5: he did. But it wasn't all that all of who 224 00:09:25,910 --> 00:09:28,390 Speaker 5: he was. And we kind of fell in love over 225 00:09:28,429 --> 00:09:29,189 Speaker 5: that renovation. 226 00:09:29,210 --> 00:09:30,150 Speaker 2: You saved my life. 227 00:09:30,510 --> 00:09:33,860 Speaker 1: You saved our shoe for show. You saved our shoe 228 00:09:33,880 --> 00:09:34,219 Speaker 1: for show. 229 00:09:34,700 --> 00:09:36,760 Speaker 2: That's for sure. You got that for sure. 230 00:09:37,120 --> 00:09:39,860 Speaker 1: You know, the interesting thing about, and I shouldn't even 231 00:09:39,880 --> 00:09:44,220 Speaker 1: say interesting, is that, you know, I tell everybody when 232 00:09:44,260 --> 00:09:47,059 Speaker 1: I look at television now, television is so fun for 233 00:09:47,080 --> 00:09:50,370 Speaker 1: a person of color to me now. Because I see 234 00:09:50,470 --> 00:09:55,190 Speaker 1: us on television, on love stories. I see us in commercials, 235 00:09:55,309 --> 00:09:59,130 Speaker 1: interracial commercials. It's all kind of things that really make 236 00:09:59,150 --> 00:10:01,760 Speaker 1: you feel comfortable. when you turn on the TV and 237 00:10:01,780 --> 00:10:03,569 Speaker 1: make you comfortable when you walk in the street. Okay, 238 00:10:03,590 --> 00:10:05,890 Speaker 1: I guess we cool now in a way because you 239 00:10:05,910 --> 00:10:11,350 Speaker 1: can see me banking, me dating, me having my Santa Claus. 240 00:10:11,130 --> 00:10:14,959 Speaker 2: Is black, all that good stuff. Our president was black, yes. 241 00:10:15,020 --> 00:10:16,210 Speaker 6: Absolutely, absolutely. 242 00:10:16,260 --> 00:10:18,250 Speaker 1: And so now the vice president is black. So, you know, 243 00:10:18,270 --> 00:10:20,610 Speaker 1: stuff becomes a little normal. We know it's not all normal. 244 00:10:20,990 --> 00:10:24,310 Speaker 1: But in watching the show and seeing you guys, what 245 00:10:24,350 --> 00:10:27,250 Speaker 1: do you think is the most magical thing about you 246 00:10:27,330 --> 00:10:32,680 Speaker 1: as a couple on TV talking to people, encouraging them, 247 00:10:33,320 --> 00:10:36,900 Speaker 1: making life decisions, and then showing them that this is 248 00:10:36,940 --> 00:10:39,860 Speaker 1: the best opportunity to move their life forward, sometimes as 249 00:10:39,900 --> 00:10:41,500 Speaker 1: a couple and sometimes as a family? 250 00:10:43,050 --> 00:10:46,230 Speaker 5: I think that for us, we have these conversations often, right? 251 00:10:46,290 --> 00:10:51,030 Speaker 5: Because as a black family, you know, on national television 252 00:10:51,050 --> 00:10:54,370 Speaker 5: where you're not just talking to an African-American audience, you know, 253 00:10:54,670 --> 00:10:57,530 Speaker 5: questions come up even in advisory, if you know what 254 00:10:57,550 --> 00:11:00,530 Speaker 5: I mean, you're an advisor as well, Rashawn. So, you know, 255 00:11:00,580 --> 00:11:02,699 Speaker 5: an advisory is, you know, what do we need to 256 00:11:02,800 --> 00:11:05,820 Speaker 5: change anything to appeal to the masses? And I think 257 00:11:06,100 --> 00:11:09,079 Speaker 5: for us, the blessing is, in this entire experience is 258 00:11:09,160 --> 00:11:11,620 Speaker 5: no one has asked us to change a thing yeah 259 00:11:11,840 --> 00:11:14,520 Speaker 5: like i was on the today show in dreadlocks you 260 00:11:14,540 --> 00:11:17,280 Speaker 5: know what i mean i you better not call them 261 00:11:17,350 --> 00:11:20,830 Speaker 5: dreadlocks they're goddess locks don't let the ladies come for 262 00:11:20,890 --> 00:11:23,189 Speaker 5: you but no i think like monday when i think 263 00:11:23,250 --> 00:11:26,689 Speaker 5: about it like monday i shot a commercial a commercial 264 00:11:26,730 --> 00:11:30,290 Speaker 5: for the international excuse me i'm sorry and I shot 265 00:11:30,320 --> 00:11:34,880 Speaker 5: a commercial for the Intercontinental Exchange for ice stock market. 266 00:11:35,020 --> 00:11:38,199 Speaker 5: And no one asked me to tone down anything like 267 00:11:38,240 --> 00:11:41,460 Speaker 5: no attitude, no blackness, no nothing. 268 00:11:41,179 --> 00:11:43,880 Speaker 2: On our show. That's very much who we are. And 269 00:11:44,000 --> 00:11:46,660 Speaker 2: our network, HGTV, loves it. 270 00:11:47,400 --> 00:11:50,569 Speaker 6: Please don't go anywhere. We'll be right back with more 271 00:11:50,670 --> 00:11:57,819 Speaker 6: money making conversations masterclass. Welcome back to the Money Making 272 00:11:57,880 --> 00:12:03,540 Speaker 6: Conversations Masterclass hosted by Rashawn McDonald. Money Making Conversations Masterclass 273 00:12:03,660 --> 00:12:09,750 Speaker 6: continues online at moneymakingconversations.com and follow Money Making Conversations Masterclass 274 00:12:09,890 --> 00:12:11,730 Speaker 6: on Facebook, Twitter, and Instagram. 275 00:12:13,990 --> 00:12:17,809 Speaker 5: We want y'all just as you are I think that 276 00:12:17,870 --> 00:12:20,790 Speaker 5: is a blessing And just this whole experience Our show, 277 00:12:20,809 --> 00:12:24,689 Speaker 5: the idea that We are a black family, successful We 278 00:12:24,730 --> 00:12:29,020 Speaker 5: have beautiful children who Are sweet, who are educated We're together, 279 00:12:29,580 --> 00:12:32,380 Speaker 5: we're married We don't have a broken home Which is 280 00:12:32,400 --> 00:12:37,240 Speaker 5: what people stereotypically expect We don't fight There's no drama 281 00:12:37,340 --> 00:12:40,440 Speaker 5: or gossip out there About us and cheating And all 282 00:12:40,460 --> 00:12:44,069 Speaker 5: this nonsense People kind of expect That when they see 283 00:12:44,230 --> 00:12:46,750 Speaker 5: African-American families on TV, that there's going to come a. 284 00:12:46,750 --> 00:12:48,130 Speaker 2: Whole bag of tricks with it. 285 00:12:48,590 --> 00:12:51,949 Speaker 5: And the blessing in this experience, not only that we 286 00:12:51,990 --> 00:12:54,690 Speaker 5: get to do it together, is that there is no drama. 287 00:12:54,750 --> 00:12:56,670 Speaker 5: And so we're showing we can do it, too. We 288 00:12:56,740 --> 00:12:59,959 Speaker 5: are doing it, too. We've always been here. Thank God 289 00:13:00,000 --> 00:13:00,900 Speaker 5: you're just noticing it. 290 00:13:01,080 --> 00:13:03,920 Speaker 1: Absolutely. Hey, Mike, I want to say this, Mike. Mike, 291 00:13:03,980 --> 00:13:05,680 Speaker 1: she kind of said, she tries to set you up 292 00:13:05,700 --> 00:13:07,380 Speaker 1: a couple of times, you know, when she comes in 293 00:13:07,500 --> 00:13:09,760 Speaker 1: the room, asks you, how does this look, baby? 294 00:13:09,860 --> 00:13:11,179 Speaker 4: How does this look, baby? 295 00:13:11,520 --> 00:13:13,500 Speaker 1: And then she references, oh, you're trying to say something 296 00:13:13,520 --> 00:13:14,280 Speaker 1: about my wig. 297 00:13:14,540 --> 00:13:15,540 Speaker 3: I said, oh, no. 298 00:13:15,840 --> 00:13:17,080 Speaker 2: She's trying to set my boy up. 299 00:13:17,500 --> 00:13:19,260 Speaker 4: No, Mike. Come on, Mike. 300 00:13:19,559 --> 00:13:20,740 Speaker 2: She's trying to set you up. 301 00:13:22,000 --> 00:13:24,870 Speaker 3: So, but to piggyback over that as well as answer 302 00:13:24,880 --> 00:13:26,890 Speaker 3: your question with the magic part, I think the magic 303 00:13:26,950 --> 00:13:30,730 Speaker 3: in it is that we are really doing the work, right? 304 00:13:30,750 --> 00:13:33,670 Speaker 4: We don't step in and then say, cut. Okay. Somebody 305 00:13:33,710 --> 00:13:34,770 Speaker 4: else come and do this. 306 00:13:34,910 --> 00:13:38,530 Speaker 3: You see a couple, not just a black couple, a 307 00:13:38,590 --> 00:13:42,170 Speaker 3: couple that is universally appealing to the masses, right? 308 00:13:42,510 --> 00:13:43,510 Speaker 4: It's positive. 309 00:13:43,570 --> 00:13:46,420 Speaker 3: It's full of family. It's full of education. It's full 310 00:13:46,480 --> 00:13:52,190 Speaker 3: of information, right? To where you can say, okay, I'm 311 00:13:52,290 --> 00:13:52,810 Speaker 3: used to this. 312 00:13:52,929 --> 00:13:55,750 Speaker 4: This sounds familiar. This looks familiar. I'm tuning in. 313 00:13:56,410 --> 00:13:58,610 Speaker 5: But I think what is good, too, is you also 314 00:13:58,690 --> 00:13:59,830 Speaker 5: see a little bit of our mess. 315 00:14:00,250 --> 00:14:02,820 Speaker 2: You know, you can tell I drive my husband crazy. Rashawn, 316 00:14:02,880 --> 00:14:05,960 Speaker 2: you watch two episodes. You can tell I drive him crazy. 317 00:14:06,260 --> 00:14:08,339 Speaker 1: Egypt, what you ain't going to do with my boy, Mike? 318 00:14:08,360 --> 00:14:10,199 Speaker 2: He my boy now. My boy, Mike. So I can 319 00:14:10,220 --> 00:14:10,540 Speaker 2: say it. 320 00:14:11,220 --> 00:14:13,099 Speaker 1: I just showed y'all two examples where she's trying to 321 00:14:13,140 --> 00:14:13,660 Speaker 1: set him up. 322 00:14:13,820 --> 00:14:16,580 Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying? You know, talk about, baby, 323 00:14:16,760 --> 00:14:19,880 Speaker 2: I think I've eaten too much. I think I've eaten too. 324 00:14:19,760 --> 00:14:20,240 Speaker 3: Much, baby. 325 00:14:20,260 --> 00:14:20,880 Speaker 2: What do you think? 326 00:14:22,920 --> 00:14:24,450 Speaker 1: I'm not answering that question on TV. 327 00:14:24,750 --> 00:14:27,390 Speaker 2: No, you ain't doing me like that, honey. That's the 328 00:14:27,470 --> 00:14:28,210 Speaker 2: fun part of. 329 00:14:28,170 --> 00:14:29,590 Speaker 1: What I'm talking about in this relationship. 330 00:14:29,610 --> 00:14:31,430 Speaker 2: Because that's what I do in my life. 331 00:14:31,750 --> 00:14:34,950 Speaker 1: But it's captured on film organically. And let me be 332 00:14:35,010 --> 00:14:37,530 Speaker 1: real about it. It ain't even about race now. It's 333 00:14:37,570 --> 00:14:42,590 Speaker 1: about joining a couple that gives me information because I 334 00:14:42,630 --> 00:14:44,850 Speaker 1: watch these shows. These are the type of shows that 335 00:14:44,870 --> 00:14:47,150 Speaker 1: will be running where you're at the car dealership sitting 336 00:14:47,170 --> 00:14:49,990 Speaker 1: there waiting on your car. These type of shows that 337 00:14:50,030 --> 00:14:53,150 Speaker 1: are running when you're waiting in the hospital lobby. These 338 00:14:53,190 --> 00:14:55,910 Speaker 1: type of shows that are just running. They're so comfortable 339 00:14:56,270 --> 00:14:58,860 Speaker 1: because they're so informative. And that's the part of it 340 00:14:58,900 --> 00:15:02,020 Speaker 1: that I love because I love that part where you 341 00:15:02,040 --> 00:15:05,130 Speaker 1: walk them through the house. You know, and that's the 342 00:15:05,150 --> 00:15:07,110 Speaker 1: part where you know people know what they're talking about. 343 00:15:07,450 --> 00:15:11,690 Speaker 1: Because people really, they're about to give their life to you. 344 00:15:12,170 --> 00:15:14,380 Speaker 1: And in some of these houses that you're walking in, 345 00:15:14,650 --> 00:15:17,080 Speaker 1: you can't be so forceful that you feel like this 346 00:15:17,160 --> 00:15:17,520 Speaker 1: is it. 347 00:15:17,580 --> 00:15:18,070 Speaker 3: Or you're out. 348 00:15:18,840 --> 00:15:20,740 Speaker 1: But that part, walk us through that whole part of 349 00:15:21,140 --> 00:15:26,100 Speaker 1: creating that organic relationship, Mike, as a builder, because she's 350 00:15:26,120 --> 00:15:28,380 Speaker 1: the face of the, she's a dreamer, but you have 351 00:15:28,400 --> 00:15:30,710 Speaker 1: to put it together. And then she comes in and 352 00:15:30,750 --> 00:15:33,600 Speaker 1: she'll change on you. Well, I didn't want it like that. 353 00:15:33,620 --> 00:15:36,580 Speaker 1: I'd be like, come on, baby. Don't do Mike like 354 00:15:36,620 --> 00:15:38,720 Speaker 1: that on film. Don't do him like that on film. 355 00:15:38,880 --> 00:15:45,020 Speaker 2: But he laughs it off. You really watch. I loved it. 356 00:15:45,040 --> 00:15:45,590 Speaker 4: I loved it. 357 00:15:45,870 --> 00:15:46,270 Speaker 6: I loved it. 358 00:15:46,430 --> 00:15:48,750 Speaker 1: When the floor was gold and the other floor was brown, 359 00:15:48,770 --> 00:15:49,450 Speaker 1: the other floor was this. 360 00:15:49,690 --> 00:15:51,490 Speaker 4: You go, oh, baby, don't worry. 361 00:15:51,510 --> 00:15:52,470 Speaker 6: I got you. I got you. 362 00:15:52,770 --> 00:15:53,350 Speaker 4: And she walked away. 363 00:15:53,390 --> 00:15:53,810 Speaker 2: Okay. 364 00:15:55,170 --> 00:15:56,010 Speaker 6: I'll be back. 365 00:15:56,880 --> 00:16:00,120 Speaker 1: I'm going to just tell you a couple of things 366 00:16:00,140 --> 00:16:01,100 Speaker 1: that really messed him up. 367 00:16:01,700 --> 00:16:03,260 Speaker 2: She on a construction site, y'all. 368 00:16:04,020 --> 00:16:05,260 Speaker 1: She walking there with heels on. 369 00:16:05,500 --> 00:16:09,950 Speaker 2: Open toes. Open toes. 370 00:16:11,390 --> 00:16:11,530 Speaker 4: Here. 371 00:16:11,650 --> 00:16:13,870 Speaker 2: Of course, Mike said. 372 00:16:13,930 --> 00:16:17,270 Speaker 5: You got to remember, Mike, my day, I might be 373 00:16:17,310 --> 00:16:20,200 Speaker 5: with my real estate clients. I still need to look professional. 374 00:16:20,220 --> 00:16:22,060 Speaker 5: They don't understand me coming in in work boots. 375 00:16:22,180 --> 00:16:24,360 Speaker 4: I told him to keep some shoes in the car. Mike, 376 00:16:24,400 --> 00:16:25,020 Speaker 4: talk to me. 377 00:16:25,160 --> 00:16:28,320 Speaker 2: Talk to me, Mike. Talk to me. Mike said, you're 378 00:16:28,340 --> 00:16:30,470 Speaker 2: going to step on a nail. You're going to step 379 00:16:30,490 --> 00:16:33,130 Speaker 2: on a nail. Rashawn, I thought me and you were friends. 380 00:16:33,170 --> 00:16:34,370 Speaker 2: Now you're taking his side. 381 00:16:34,390 --> 00:16:34,930 Speaker 3: Look at this. 382 00:16:35,070 --> 00:16:35,530 Speaker 2: Look at this. 383 00:16:35,570 --> 00:16:38,070 Speaker 1: Because you know, the thing about it is that You know, 384 00:16:38,090 --> 00:16:40,890 Speaker 1: in these shows, because, you know, like I said, I 385 00:16:41,050 --> 00:16:45,230 Speaker 1: love the fact that the potential of who y'all are 386 00:16:45,310 --> 00:16:47,530 Speaker 1: to me. I'm comfortable. I want to watch. 387 00:16:47,570 --> 00:16:48,190 Speaker 3: I want to learn. 388 00:16:48,630 --> 00:16:50,250 Speaker 1: I want to say, can I get that? Can I 389 00:16:50,270 --> 00:16:53,590 Speaker 1: get them to do that to my house? That's what 390 00:16:53,630 --> 00:16:57,740 Speaker 1: I know is special. Because I'm going like, because, you know, 391 00:16:57,840 --> 00:16:59,400 Speaker 1: I've done a lot of remodeling. You know, I have 392 00:16:59,420 --> 00:17:01,360 Speaker 1: people come to my house going, so how are they 393 00:17:01,400 --> 00:17:02,100 Speaker 1: pulling that off? 394 00:17:02,160 --> 00:17:02,420 Speaker 6: Yeah. 395 00:17:02,860 --> 00:17:05,940 Speaker 1: And it looks so beautiful. But again, like I was saying, Mike, 396 00:17:06,330 --> 00:17:10,370 Speaker 1: you are the builder. She comes up with these pricings. Well, 397 00:17:10,390 --> 00:17:12,290 Speaker 1: we can only do it for $ 100, 000. We can only 398 00:17:12,390 --> 00:17:14,990 Speaker 1: do it for $ 93, 000. And they don't know that the 399 00:17:15,030 --> 00:17:16,810 Speaker 1: gas meter is sitting over there where the window is 400 00:17:16,830 --> 00:17:17,250 Speaker 1: going to be. 401 00:17:17,330 --> 00:17:18,070 Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying? 402 00:17:18,090 --> 00:17:20,330 Speaker 1: Don't know that, though. But she's going to tell everybody, 403 00:17:20,350 --> 00:17:21,869 Speaker 1: we're going to put a window there. Then you got 404 00:17:21,890 --> 00:17:23,530 Speaker 1: to come in and go, hey, baby, there's a gas 405 00:17:23,570 --> 00:17:27,050 Speaker 1: meter there. Well, take care, honey. 406 00:17:27,190 --> 00:17:28,430 Speaker 3: I love you. Smooches. 407 00:17:32,520 --> 00:17:38,770 Speaker 4: Yeah, she, you know, she'll give them the vision. Yes, sir. 408 00:17:39,030 --> 00:17:41,930 Speaker 3: And then I will, you know, softly bring it back 409 00:17:41,990 --> 00:17:45,590 Speaker 3: down to reality, make them feel comfortable, allow them to 410 00:17:45,670 --> 00:17:49,240 Speaker 3: trust me. You know, one with smart decisions, showing them 411 00:17:49,320 --> 00:17:51,240 Speaker 3: how we can get there if for some reason they 412 00:17:51,260 --> 00:17:54,040 Speaker 3: can't afford it, how we can get there for less, 413 00:17:54,060 --> 00:17:55,720 Speaker 3: but by doing different options. 414 00:17:55,820 --> 00:17:56,040 Speaker 4: Right. 415 00:17:57,060 --> 00:17:59,570 Speaker 3: I think it's all about listening and letting them speak 416 00:17:59,609 --> 00:18:02,450 Speaker 3: and let them be heard, allowing them to let you 417 00:18:02,510 --> 00:18:05,590 Speaker 3: know exactly what they want. And then you coming in, 418 00:18:05,910 --> 00:18:08,090 Speaker 3: you know, making it feel relatable. 419 00:18:08,109 --> 00:18:11,149 Speaker 5: You know, Sean, what I love about this man and why, 420 00:18:11,369 --> 00:18:14,900 Speaker 5: why this works is because he lets me be me. 421 00:18:15,000 --> 00:18:19,120 Speaker 2: He knows that you're right. I'm a dreamer. I'm a visionary. 422 00:18:19,500 --> 00:18:23,419 Speaker 5: I'm going to show everything in its purest potential. And 423 00:18:23,500 --> 00:18:24,850 Speaker 5: he'll let me live that out. 424 00:18:24,880 --> 00:18:27,929 Speaker 2: Right. And then he'll humbly bring everybody back. 425 00:18:27,930 --> 00:18:31,250 Speaker 4: Down to earth. 426 00:18:31,390 --> 00:18:32,909 Speaker 2: That's everything that he does. 427 00:18:32,930 --> 00:18:37,180 Speaker 5: He even, I get car sick, you know, so I 428 00:18:37,220 --> 00:18:38,520 Speaker 5: have to drive. 429 00:18:38,740 --> 00:18:40,379 Speaker 2: And that's when anybody's driving. 430 00:18:40,460 --> 00:18:43,380 Speaker 5: Even if someone sends a car with a driver for me, 431 00:18:43,500 --> 00:18:45,000 Speaker 5: I'm like, I don't know if I want, I want 432 00:18:45,020 --> 00:18:45,940 Speaker 5: to drive. 433 00:18:45,619 --> 00:18:47,220 Speaker 2: Because I get really car sick. 434 00:18:47,500 --> 00:18:50,219 Speaker 5: You know, a lot of men, Rashawn, wouldn't be comfortable 435 00:18:50,330 --> 00:18:52,949 Speaker 5: with their wife behind the wheel, if you know what 436 00:18:52,990 --> 00:18:57,790 Speaker 5: I mean. So for 17 and a half years, he'll 437 00:18:57,830 --> 00:19:01,409 Speaker 5: sit in the passenger seat, but, and let me drive 438 00:19:01,470 --> 00:19:02,570 Speaker 5: and be okay with that. 439 00:19:02,690 --> 00:19:02,910 Speaker 6: Right. 440 00:19:02,930 --> 00:19:05,170 Speaker 2: You know, and he's still the lead. He still leads 441 00:19:05,250 --> 00:19:05,850 Speaker 2: our family. 442 00:19:05,869 --> 00:19:09,580 Speaker 4: I got my foot on that second break. Absolutely. Absolutely. 443 00:19:09,740 --> 00:19:10,200 Speaker 2: Absolutely. 444 00:19:10,320 --> 00:19:11,940 Speaker 4: Absolutely. Absolutely. 445 00:19:12,480 --> 00:19:13,600 Speaker 1: Worried about that seven year itch. 446 00:19:13,619 --> 00:19:14,180 Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying? 447 00:19:14,200 --> 00:19:16,939 Speaker 1: That seven year itch. You know what I'm saying? But 448 00:19:16,980 --> 00:19:19,100 Speaker 1: you know, the beauty of our, if we go through 449 00:19:19,119 --> 00:19:21,580 Speaker 1: the episodes, you don't do this show alone. You have 450 00:19:21,619 --> 00:19:23,020 Speaker 1: three wonderful children. 451 00:19:23,530 --> 00:19:24,109 Speaker 3: They're girls. 452 00:19:24,450 --> 00:19:26,970 Speaker 1: They're a part of the show. Andre's part of the show. Alexia, 453 00:19:26,990 --> 00:19:28,929 Speaker 1: your uncle's part of the show. Talk about the overall 454 00:19:28,970 --> 00:19:33,300 Speaker 1: casting and the need to organically, you know, introduce your family. 455 00:19:33,480 --> 00:19:35,560 Speaker 1: And like I said, I only saw the first two episodes. 456 00:19:35,580 --> 00:19:38,179 Speaker 1: So more people are going to be introduced. What was 457 00:19:38,220 --> 00:19:41,660 Speaker 1: the whole theory behind the introduction? Are you trying to 458 00:19:41,740 --> 00:19:45,090 Speaker 1: just let everybody know this is us? Or what was 459 00:19:45,109 --> 00:19:47,210 Speaker 1: the whole background behind that whole process? 460 00:19:48,109 --> 00:19:49,990 Speaker 2: I think people had to kind of get to know us. 461 00:19:50,060 --> 00:19:50,600 Speaker 4: Us first. 462 00:19:50,720 --> 00:19:51,000 Speaker 2: Right. 463 00:19:51,080 --> 00:19:53,359 Speaker 5: Who Egypt is, who Mike is, who we are as 464 00:19:53,400 --> 00:19:55,800 Speaker 5: a couple, who we are as a family with our children. 465 00:19:56,300 --> 00:19:59,840 Speaker 2: But really, for our businesses to work, we could never 466 00:19:59,900 --> 00:20:00,610 Speaker 2: do it alone. 467 00:20:00,619 --> 00:20:03,710 Speaker 5: We got a whole army behind us and we want 468 00:20:03,750 --> 00:20:07,830 Speaker 5: people to embrace them as well. Normally with normalcy. So, 469 00:20:08,070 --> 00:20:09,409 Speaker 5: you know, we kind of got to ease them in, 470 00:20:09,430 --> 00:20:12,149 Speaker 5: let you let you learn everybody. So Andre is a 471 00:20:12,190 --> 00:20:15,590 Speaker 5: designer friend of mine. He's super talented. He's done some 472 00:20:15,609 --> 00:20:18,520 Speaker 5: of the biggest design houses in Atlanta and all over 473 00:20:18,560 --> 00:20:22,520 Speaker 5: the country. But but really, when everything's off and we 474 00:20:22,560 --> 00:20:24,320 Speaker 5: let our hair down, he's one of my best friends. 475 00:20:24,840 --> 00:20:27,120 Speaker 5: So he's the person that I call if I'm like, 476 00:20:27,340 --> 00:20:29,180 Speaker 5: I can't figure out this room. 477 00:20:29,359 --> 00:20:30,760 Speaker 2: I need some input. 478 00:20:32,440 --> 00:20:35,520 Speaker 5: And when I'm doing my child's room, it's like, I 479 00:20:35,660 --> 00:20:37,560 Speaker 5: need second eyes, but Mike can't stand it. 480 00:20:37,920 --> 00:20:41,240 Speaker 3: Whenever my phone is dinging from my bank notifications, I 481 00:20:41,260 --> 00:20:42,220 Speaker 3: know Andre's at my house. 482 00:20:42,960 --> 00:20:46,689 Speaker 5: Andre has very high elite taste, you know, I do 483 00:20:46,730 --> 00:20:48,850 Speaker 5: everything kind of on a budget on my own, but 484 00:20:48,869 --> 00:20:50,890 Speaker 5: when he comes in, the price triples. 485 00:20:51,050 --> 00:20:53,610 Speaker 2: So Mike, I love you, but you got to go, bro. 486 00:20:54,470 --> 00:20:57,679 Speaker 1: Let's talk about the pricing and all that, because, you know, 487 00:20:57,720 --> 00:20:59,960 Speaker 1: this is, we're not telling about the series, but that's what, that's, 488 00:21:00,040 --> 00:21:02,740 Speaker 1: that's where the experience comes in. That's when to walk 489 00:21:02,760 --> 00:21:05,399 Speaker 1: into a property and give an estimate of what it's going. 490 00:21:05,260 --> 00:21:06,260 Speaker 3: To take to get there. 491 00:21:06,880 --> 00:21:09,560 Speaker 1: And, Mike, I'm going to go to you as a builder, 492 00:21:09,619 --> 00:21:12,180 Speaker 1: as a person who really is the nuts and bolts 493 00:21:12,220 --> 00:21:15,540 Speaker 1: of renovation. How does that process work for you that 494 00:21:15,580 --> 00:21:18,090 Speaker 1: you trust your natural instincts or do you have a 495 00:21:18,630 --> 00:21:22,550 Speaker 1: Rolodex that you fall back on to be able to 496 00:21:22,590 --> 00:21:24,410 Speaker 1: make sure that you hit that number? 497 00:21:25,320 --> 00:21:30,020 Speaker 3: Yeah. Well, a lot of relationships, for one, with subs, 498 00:21:30,350 --> 00:21:33,070 Speaker 3: with a lot of big box stores, with a lot 499 00:21:33,090 --> 00:21:36,730 Speaker 3: of friends. So those relationships, I keep those in mind 500 00:21:36,750 --> 00:21:39,200 Speaker 3: as I'm going through properties. But in this day and 501 00:21:39,300 --> 00:21:42,720 Speaker 3: age where wood and materials are fluctuating in price and 502 00:21:42,760 --> 00:21:46,380 Speaker 3: sometimes overpriced, I have to get creative, you know, where 503 00:21:46,420 --> 00:21:51,470 Speaker 3: we go to refurbish properties or refurbish warehouses and use materials. 504 00:21:52,270 --> 00:21:54,690 Speaker 4: Or I use things that I may have in my warehouse. 505 00:21:55,270 --> 00:21:56,810 Speaker 4: You know, we actually did that. 506 00:21:56,830 --> 00:21:58,350 Speaker 3: Yeah, we actually did that on some of the episodes 507 00:21:58,390 --> 00:22:00,830 Speaker 3: where we reuse things and repurpose them. 508 00:22:00,950 --> 00:22:01,290 Speaker 2: Right. 509 00:22:01,690 --> 00:22:03,090 Speaker 4: And make them look updated. 510 00:22:03,109 --> 00:22:06,209 Speaker 3: You know, it's not always about let's let's demolish this 511 00:22:06,330 --> 00:22:08,490 Speaker 3: and make a great scene. It's about let's do the 512 00:22:08,609 --> 00:22:11,210 Speaker 3: smart decisions that's going to make sense so we can 513 00:22:11,250 --> 00:22:12,310 Speaker 3: hit that target. Yeah. 514 00:22:12,490 --> 00:22:14,690 Speaker 5: But Rashad, sometimes we got to give the bad news, 515 00:22:14,950 --> 00:22:17,850 Speaker 5: you know, and the bad news is this is your budget, 516 00:22:17,910 --> 00:22:20,310 Speaker 5: but we just can't do it for that budget because 517 00:22:20,810 --> 00:22:22,889 Speaker 5: the reality is stuff's out of stock. You know, it 518 00:22:22,930 --> 00:22:26,030 Speaker 5: may cost 40% more than what it would have cost last. 519 00:22:25,790 --> 00:22:27,550 Speaker 2: Year or six, six months ago. 520 00:22:27,850 --> 00:22:30,670 Speaker 5: That's when I let him give the bad news. 521 00:22:30,710 --> 00:22:32,750 Speaker 3: Not only have materials went up, but the price of 522 00:22:32,790 --> 00:22:33,910 Speaker 3: labor has went up as well. 523 00:22:34,050 --> 00:22:34,350 Speaker 6: Right. 524 00:22:34,510 --> 00:22:37,030 Speaker 4: So people are extremely shocked by pricing. 525 00:22:37,290 --> 00:22:40,639 Speaker 3: So some of, some of my clients that booked our company, uh, 526 00:22:40,910 --> 00:22:47,379 Speaker 3: They are now calling and getting sideswiped, you know, so 527 00:22:47,420 --> 00:22:47,980 Speaker 3: at this moment. 528 00:22:48,580 --> 00:22:52,179 Speaker 1: Well, I'm talking to Egypt Sherrod. She's the queen and 529 00:22:52,240 --> 00:22:55,560 Speaker 1: I'm Mike Jackson. He's the king and you're married to 530 00:22:55,580 --> 00:22:57,740 Speaker 1: real estate. It's a, it's an exciting show. It's a show. 531 00:22:57,800 --> 00:23:02,159 Speaker 1: A reason I say it's exciting because they're refreshing. They're entertaining. 532 00:23:03,040 --> 00:23:05,040 Speaker 1: I want to invite them into my home. You will 533 00:23:05,080 --> 00:23:07,639 Speaker 1: invite them into your home. You don't know Egypt Sherrod. 534 00:23:08,040 --> 00:23:09,290 Speaker 1: She is the expert. 535 00:23:09,350 --> 00:23:10,010 Speaker 3: She's the queen. 536 00:23:10,540 --> 00:23:13,500 Speaker 1: I've always respected her. This is not being based on 537 00:23:13,520 --> 00:23:16,979 Speaker 1: my long-time relationship. When I mentioned her name in my house, 538 00:23:17,460 --> 00:23:20,500 Speaker 1: my wife knew immediately who she was. And that was 539 00:23:20,660 --> 00:23:23,959 Speaker 1: to me a testament that my wife respects you and 540 00:23:24,480 --> 00:23:27,100 Speaker 1: wants to be excited about this venture for you guys. 541 00:23:27,400 --> 00:23:29,520 Speaker 1: More importantly, I just see a couple of stars of 542 00:23:29,560 --> 00:23:32,780 Speaker 1: TV that's going to take over the game. And I'm 543 00:23:32,920 --> 00:23:35,100 Speaker 1: going to tell you something. I'm humbled when I say 544 00:23:35,119 --> 00:23:37,580 Speaker 1: that because I'm blessed that I can say that. I 545 00:23:37,600 --> 00:23:40,400 Speaker 1: couldn't say this five years ago. That's how times have changed. 546 00:23:40,859 --> 00:23:44,199 Speaker 1: You guys are landing at the right time on TV. 547 00:23:44,740 --> 00:23:47,700 Speaker 1: There's nothing on that show that I was not disappointed in. 548 00:23:48,160 --> 00:23:50,300 Speaker 1: It was funny. It was organic. 549 00:23:50,359 --> 00:23:51,120 Speaker 4: It was natural. 550 00:23:51,280 --> 00:23:53,470 Speaker 1: I felt like it was a couple. Just happens to 551 00:23:53,510 --> 00:23:57,640 Speaker 1: have a camera following them around. on a rebuild. 552 00:23:57,880 --> 00:23:59,120 Speaker 4: That's all I saw. 553 00:24:00,320 --> 00:24:02,460 Speaker 5: That means a lot coming from you, Rashawn. We know 554 00:24:02,500 --> 00:24:06,219 Speaker 5: you know talent. We know that you've helped mold talent 555 00:24:06,310 --> 00:24:09,869 Speaker 5: as well. And I actually remember a conversation. I don't 556 00:24:09,890 --> 00:24:11,629 Speaker 5: know if you remember it, but I'm going to take 557 00:24:11,650 --> 00:24:13,770 Speaker 5: you down memory lane just a little bit before we go. 558 00:24:13,790 --> 00:24:17,850 Speaker 5: I was working at WBLS in New York City and 559 00:24:17,990 --> 00:24:20,209 Speaker 5: I said, Rashawn, I got to keep this on the 560 00:24:20,230 --> 00:24:24,340 Speaker 5: down low, but I'm thinking about making the move to Atlanta. Right. 561 00:24:25,140 --> 00:24:27,520 Speaker 2: And I know that you're in Atlanta. What do you think? 562 00:24:27,580 --> 00:24:29,680 Speaker 2: Is that a good move for me? And you said, 563 00:24:29,720 --> 00:24:30,260 Speaker 2: come on, come. 564 00:24:30,200 --> 00:24:31,980 Speaker 5: Over here to my office, which by the way, happened 565 00:24:32,010 --> 00:24:34,169 Speaker 5: to be like a little production clock at. 566 00:24:35,810 --> 00:24:36,350 Speaker 3: That moment. 567 00:24:37,050 --> 00:24:38,890 Speaker 5: And you sat me down and you said, listen, this 568 00:24:38,950 --> 00:24:43,310 Speaker 5: is the deal. Atlanta is for big dogs. Everybody's a 569 00:24:43,350 --> 00:24:46,070 Speaker 5: star in Atlanta. Everybody's got something going on in Atlanta. 570 00:24:46,130 --> 00:24:49,890 Speaker 5: You got some incredible young black entrepreneurs there. And so 571 00:24:50,210 --> 00:24:51,730 Speaker 5: if you come in Atlanta, you got to have your 572 00:24:51,770 --> 00:24:54,450 Speaker 5: stuff together. So you get your game plan first and 573 00:24:54,470 --> 00:24:56,730 Speaker 5: then you work your plan I don't know if you 574 00:24:56,850 --> 00:24:59,409 Speaker 5: if you remember this conversation but it sticks out to 575 00:24:59,470 --> 00:25:03,580 Speaker 5: me because moving here from New York after cementing myself 576 00:25:03,660 --> 00:25:05,800 Speaker 5: as a radio personality there for many. 577 00:25:05,619 --> 00:25:08,680 Speaker 2: Years was a big bold move. 578 00:25:08,460 --> 00:25:10,460 Speaker 5: And it was you know it took a lot of 579 00:25:10,940 --> 00:25:12,379 Speaker 5: you know it took a lot of guts and you 580 00:25:12,420 --> 00:25:14,700 Speaker 5: know for us to just say we're going to take 581 00:25:14,740 --> 00:25:18,030 Speaker 5: a chance and bet on ourselves and rebuild in an 582 00:25:18,090 --> 00:25:20,490 Speaker 5: entirely different city where we didn't know anybody. 583 00:25:20,090 --> 00:25:21,070 Speaker 4: And it was a. 584 00:25:21,430 --> 00:25:24,610 Speaker 1: Egypt and I had several great conversations because, you know, 585 00:25:24,630 --> 00:25:27,350 Speaker 1: she followed us, Steve Harvey and I, you know. And 586 00:25:27,390 --> 00:25:29,810 Speaker 1: so we was always talking about ratings, always talking about winning, 587 00:25:29,869 --> 00:25:32,590 Speaker 1: always talking about. But one thing I did like about her, 588 00:25:32,650 --> 00:25:34,890 Speaker 1: she always had multiple streams of income. 589 00:25:35,630 --> 00:25:35,970 Speaker 4: Yeah. 590 00:25:36,280 --> 00:25:40,900 Speaker 1: See, right there, she was my friend. Because that's important 591 00:25:40,960 --> 00:25:42,899 Speaker 1: in today's society to be able to wake up and 592 00:25:42,920 --> 00:25:45,460 Speaker 1: realize you have options. And when I sat down, I 593 00:25:45,500 --> 00:25:48,060 Speaker 1: remember that conversation because it's funny, Egypt. I get that 594 00:25:48,080 --> 00:25:49,920 Speaker 1: a lot from people. Rashawn, you remember when you told 595 00:25:49,940 --> 00:25:52,949 Speaker 1: me this? And I have an honest side of me 596 00:25:52,990 --> 00:25:55,149 Speaker 1: that I'm going to tell you, look, you need to 597 00:25:55,170 --> 00:25:55,690 Speaker 1: stay up here. 598 00:25:55,750 --> 00:25:56,170 Speaker 4: This is it. 599 00:25:56,790 --> 00:26:00,490 Speaker 1: But I knew that she had a sense of a 600 00:26:00,609 --> 00:26:02,710 Speaker 1: gift to be able to do more. But if you 601 00:26:02,750 --> 00:26:06,490 Speaker 1: go down there, know what you're walking into because it's 602 00:26:06,530 --> 00:26:09,590 Speaker 1: going to happen. And guess what? Everything's timed out right. 603 00:26:09,910 --> 00:26:13,869 Speaker 1: It is the new Hollywood. You know, the pricing's right. 604 00:26:14,050 --> 00:26:16,780 Speaker 1: Y'all have a great show. I'm comfortable. Now I just 605 00:26:16,800 --> 00:26:18,240 Speaker 1: got to get y'all to come by my house and 606 00:26:18,280 --> 00:26:21,070 Speaker 1: remodel my balcony over there. And we're going to talk 607 00:26:21,090 --> 00:26:23,430 Speaker 1: about that all fair. You know, I'm just making sure 608 00:26:23,450 --> 00:26:26,350 Speaker 1: y'all don't hit. Hey, Mike, I'm just making sure you 609 00:26:26,390 --> 00:26:29,030 Speaker 1: don't end Zoom. You know, you end these calls and 610 00:26:29,050 --> 00:26:29,410 Speaker 1: then you. 611 00:26:29,350 --> 00:26:30,390 Speaker 4: Go, bye, bye. 612 00:26:30,650 --> 00:26:32,790 Speaker 2: I said, oh, oh, he said he's going to give 613 00:26:32,810 --> 00:26:38,720 Speaker 2: me his number. You know what I'm saying? 614 00:26:38,780 --> 00:26:39,720 Speaker 4: No, no, no, no. 615 00:26:39,940 --> 00:26:41,420 Speaker 1: But again, watch this show. 616 00:26:41,520 --> 00:26:42,359 Speaker 6: Married to Real Estate. 617 00:26:42,700 --> 00:26:44,980 Speaker 1: Stars are Egypt Sherrod, my man Mike Jackson. 618 00:26:48,170 --> 00:26:50,510 Speaker 6: Thank you for joining us for this edition of Money 619 00:26:50,550 --> 00:26:56,840 Speaker 6: Making Conversations Masterclass. Money Making Conversations Masterclass with Rushawn McDonald 620 00:26:56,970 --> 00:27:02,100 Speaker 6: is produced by 3815 Media Inc. More information about 3815 621 00:27:02,100 --> 00:27:02,720 Speaker 6: Media Inc. 622 00:27:02,920 --> 00:27:06,180 Speaker 2: Is available at 3815media. 623 00:27:04,980 --> 00:27:09,060 Speaker 6: Com. And always remember to lead with your gifts.