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Speaker 1: If you're about to make a change in your life

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Speaker 1: and you feel uncomfortable, that's the best feeling you can

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Speaker 1: have because for the first time in your life, you'll

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Speaker 1: make a new decision that's going to be best for

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Speaker 1: you and not what somebody told you to do. And

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Speaker 1: that's when all bets are off. Welcome to Money Making

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Speaker 1: Conversation Masterclass. I'm your host with Shan McDonald. Our theme

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Speaker 1: is there's no perfect time to start following your dreams.

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Speaker 1: I recognize that we all have different definitions of success.

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Speaker 1: For you and maybe the size of your HM. It's

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Speaker 1: time to stop reading other people's success stories to start

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Speaker 1: living your own keep winning. My guest, longtime friend, powerhouse

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Speaker 1: and real estate broker and designer Egypt Taraud and a husband.

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Speaker 1: He's newby life, like I've stated, builder Mike Jackson. They're

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Speaker 1: based in Atlanta. If you can be a dreamer and

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Speaker 1: you want to dream about it your home or your fantasy,

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Speaker 1: your place that you want to rest your head and

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Speaker 1: your family, think about it. Egypt will design it and

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Speaker 1: Mike will build it. That's a slogan, not buying.

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Speaker 2: That's theirs.

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Speaker 1: They know plenty by juggling the booming property business, pleasing clients,

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Speaker 1: managing their home and raising three daughters. And they are

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Speaker 1: beautiful dollars, so precious, especially the young one when he

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Speaker 1: had when you have this one scene when he walking

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Speaker 2: His head, You're gonna love him.

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Speaker 1: They make it look effortless and fun in an HGTV

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Speaker 1: series Marriage to Real Estate. You can also catch Egypt

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Speaker 1: and Mike's guest judges in the last season of HGTV's

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Speaker 1: mega hit home renovation competition series Rock the Block, where

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Speaker 1: you see four competing teams. We're looking at the renovation.

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Speaker 3: King and Queen King and Queen of AHG TV. We

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Speaker 3: claim and thank you for Sean. We appreciate that love.

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Speaker 3: And you are absolutely right. I've been around you and

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Speaker 3: I we know each other quite well.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely, but it's a good but you know something each

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Speaker 1: it's a good been around because all the time I've

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Speaker 1: always seen you. First of all, your personality has been positive.

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Speaker 1: And one thing I've loved about her, Mike, is that

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Speaker 1: you know opportunities. She's not She's fearless because that's what

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Speaker 1: a lot of people do. Because met her in radio

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Speaker 1: do something else. They can get so locked and comfortable,

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Speaker 1: they don't do it, and so and so, so many

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Speaker 1: was urban radio that she was in, Okay, and then

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Speaker 1: she can't Now she's coming into another area of I

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Speaker 1: want to say, just there's not we don't see many

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Speaker 1: you too. That's why it's so refreshing to see that.

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Speaker 1: And I like to believe this is something we're going

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Speaker 1: first two episodes of your new series, Marriage to Real Estate,

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Speaker 1: I found a family environment that I was engaged with.

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Speaker 1: But more importantly, this is what y'all do. I never

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Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying that that's what can happen. You know,

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Speaker 1: they get a cute couple like you guys, you got

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Speaker 1: the cute little children. You know, they say, y'all be

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Speaker 1: a great TV show. It's no doubt in my mind

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Speaker 1: call this my masterclass series. Because you're talking about people

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Speaker 3: So, Ri Sean, you know, I'm a real estate broker.

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Speaker 3: It's what I've done for, you know, twenty years. And

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Speaker 3: all real estate agents were not created equal. They were not.

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Speaker 3: You take a class, you get a license if you

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Speaker 1: Great now, Mike, you know when I google Egypt, you know,

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Speaker 1: a lot of things pop up. Pictures, photos, she's posing

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Speaker 1: it's just a background into entertainment. You this business or

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Speaker 3: Yeah, one design house, one design house. But you gotta

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Speaker 4: It's not that I was trying not to take up

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Speaker 4: Here's what was on my mind is why I didn't

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Speaker 4: beyond that feelings. She's also selfless. Yes, she's the tipe

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Speaker 4: But yes, we met in our early stages. I was

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Speaker 3: Tell you when I met you I was a radio DJ.

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Speaker 4: You know, we met in three separate incidents, but one

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Speaker 1: Okay, okay, okay, okay.

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Speaker 3: So, so I was flipping houses in New Work, New

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Speaker 3: And I'm a scorpio. And what that kind of means

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Speaker 3: So they walked off the job, and I later found

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Speaker 1: Baby, right right right, right, right right right, I'm a.

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Speaker 3: Moving walk all over this rooftop baby R word. I

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Speaker 3: And we kind of fell in love over that renovation.

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Speaker 3: You saved my life.

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Speaker 1: You save a shoe for show. You saved a shoe

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Speaker 3: Yeah like we want, we want y'all just as you are.

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Speaker 2: It's positive.

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Speaker 3: You know, Sean, what I love about this man and

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Speaker 1: Absolutely, absolutely, absolutely, absolutely absolutely worried about that seven year itch.

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Speaker 1: your natural instincts or do you have a roller dex?

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Speaker 1: Did you just go you fall back on to be

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Speaker 1: able to make sure that you hit that number.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, well a lot of relationships for one, with subs,

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Speaker 4: with a lot of big box stores, with a lot

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Speaker 4: of friends, you know, So those relationships, I keep those

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Speaker 4: in mind as I'm going through properties. But in this

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Speaker 4: day and age where wood and materials are fluctuating in

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Speaker 4: price and sometimes overpriced, I have to get creative, you know,

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Speaker 4: where we go to refurbished properties or refurbished warehouses and

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Speaker 4: use materials or I use things that I may have

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Speaker 4: in my warehouse you know. Yeah, we actually did that

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Speaker 4: on so many episodes, where we reuse things, repurpose them right.

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Speaker 2: And make them look updated. You know.

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Speaker 4: It's not always about let's let's demolish this and make

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Speaker 4: a great scene. It's about let's do the smart decisions

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Speaker 4: that's going to make sense so we can hit that target.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but we're shot. Sometimes we got to give the

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Speaker 3: bad news, you know, and the bad news is this

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Speaker 3: is your budget, but we just can't do it for

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Speaker 3: that budget because the reality is stuffs out to stop.

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Speaker 3: You know, it may costs forty percent more than what

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Speaker 3: it would have cost last year or six six months ago.

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Speaker 3: That's when I let him give the bad news.

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Speaker 4: So material not really have materials went up, but the

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Speaker 4: price of laborers went up as well. Right, So people

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Speaker 4: are extremely shocked by pricing. So some of some of

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Speaker 4: my clients that booked our company, they are now calling

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Speaker 4: and getting sideswiped. You know, Sotory at.

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Speaker 1: This moment, Well, we're talking to Egypt Shirod she's the queen,

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Speaker 1: and Mike Jackson he's the king, and you're married to

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Speaker 1: real estate is an exciting show. It's a show. The

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Speaker 1: reason I say it's exciting because they're refreshing, they're entertaining.

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Speaker 1: I want to invite them into my home. You will

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Speaker 1: invite them into your home. You know, No, Egypt Hurrah,

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Speaker 1: she is the experts, she's the queen. I've already respect

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Speaker 1: her my long This is just not being based on

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Speaker 1: my long time relationship. When I mentioned her name in

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Speaker 1: my house, my wife knew immediately who she was, and

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Speaker 1: that was to be a testament that my wife respects

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Speaker 1: you and wants to be excited about this. Venture for

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Speaker 1: you guys. More importantly, I just see a couple of

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Speaker 1: stars of TV that's gonna like take over the game.

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Speaker 1: And I'm gonna tell you something. I'm humble when I

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Speaker 1: say that because I'm blessed that I can say that.

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Speaker 1: I couldn't say this five years ago. That's how times

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Speaker 1: have changed. You guys are landing at the right time

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Speaker 1: on TV. It's nothing on that show that I was

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Speaker 1: not disappointed in. I was it was funny, it was organic,

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Speaker 1: it was natural. I felt like it was a couple

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Speaker 1: just happens to have a camera following them around on

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Speaker 1: a on a rebuild. That's all I saw.

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Speaker 3: That means a lot coming from Seawan. We know you

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Speaker 3: know talent. We know that you you know you've helped

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Speaker 3: mold talent as well. And I actually remember a conversation.

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Speaker 3: I don't know if you remember it, but I'm gonna

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Speaker 3: take you down memory lane just a little bit before

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Speaker 3: we go. I was working at WBLS in New York

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Speaker 3: City and I said with Sean, I got to keep

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Speaker 3: this on the down low, but I'm thinking about making

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Speaker 3: the move to Atlanta, right and I know that you're

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Speaker 3: in Atlanta. What do you think is that a good

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Speaker 3: move for me. And you said, come on, come over

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Speaker 3: here to my office, which by the way, happened to

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Speaker 3: be like a little production clot at that moment, that moment,

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Speaker 3: and you sat me down and you said, listen, this

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Speaker 3: is the deal. Atlanta is for big dogs. Everybody's a

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Speaker 3: star in Atlanta. Everybody's got something going on in Atlanta.

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Speaker 2: You got some.

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Speaker 3: Incredible young black entrepreneurs there. And so if you're coming Atlanta,

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Speaker 3: you got to have your stuff together. So you get

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Speaker 3: your game plan first and then you work you plan.

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Speaker 3: I don't know if you if you remember this conversation,

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Speaker 3: but it sticks out to me because moving here from

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Speaker 3: New York after cementing myself as a radio personality there

511
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Speaker 3: for many years, was a big, bold move and it

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Speaker 3: was you know, it took a lot of you know,

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Speaker 3: it took a lot of guts, and you know, for

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Speaker 3: us to just say we're gonna take a chance and

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Speaker 3: bet on ourselves and rebuild in an entirely different city

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Speaker 3: where we didn't know anybody, and it was Egypt.

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Speaker 1: And I had several great conversations because you know, she

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Speaker 1: followed us Steve Harvey, now, you know, and so we

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Speaker 1: was always talking about radies. I always talked about women,

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Speaker 1: always talking about but one thing I did like about

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Speaker 1: us she always had multiple streams of income. Yeah, see

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Speaker 1: right there, she was my friend because that's important in

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Speaker 1: today's society to be able to wake up and realize

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Speaker 1: you have options. And when I sat down, I remember

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Speaker 1: that conversation because it's funny Egypt. I get that a

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Speaker 1: lot from people said, well S, you remember when you

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Speaker 1: told me this, And I have an honest side of

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Speaker 1: me that I'm gonna tell you.

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Speaker 2: Look, you need to stay up here.

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Speaker 3: This is it.

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Speaker 1: But I knew that she had a sense of a

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Speaker 1: gift to be able to do more. But if you

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Speaker 1: go down there, know what you're walking into because it's

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Speaker 1: going to happen. And guess what, everything's time right. It

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Speaker 1: is the new Hollywood.

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Speaker 4: You know, the.

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Speaker 1: Pricing is right. Y'all have a great show. I'm comfortable now.

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Speaker 1: I just got to get y'all come by my house

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Speaker 1: and remodel my backroing over there, so we don't talk

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Speaker 1: about that all fan, you know, just come there. I'm

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Speaker 1: just making sure y'all do Hey, I'm just making sure

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Speaker 1: you don't end zoom. You know, you know, you know

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Speaker 1: you're in these calls and then you go bye bye.

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Speaker 1: I said, oh oh, they say, ain't gonna give me

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Speaker 1: his numble?

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Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, No, no, no, no, but again.

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Speaker 1: Watch this show Married to Real Estate Stars of Egypt,

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Speaker 1: Charad my Man, Mike Jackson.

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