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Speaker 1: Hello the Internet, and welcome to this episode of the

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Speaker 1: Weekly Geist. Uh. These are some of our favorite segments

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Speaker 1: from this week, all edited together into one NonStop infotainment

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Speaker 1: last stravaganza. Uh yeah, So, without further ado, here is

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Speaker 1: the Weekly Zeitgeist. Please welcome one of my favorite guests,

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Speaker 1: Lydia bow Wow. What what what an intro? Oh my god,

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Speaker 1: It's so rare that somebody introduces me and really gets it,

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Speaker 1: you know what I mean, It really understands the crux

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Speaker 1: of my personality, which truly is guns, dollypartment weed like that.

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Speaker 1: I think. Yeah, you know, we're all intersecting today. I

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Speaker 1: need a family. I need a family crust, you know

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Speaker 1: what I mean, which just like a big wig, a

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Speaker 1: big blunt, like an a k and then like a

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Speaker 1: television set in maybe like some fries Like that is

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Speaker 1: like just all the way just met. But maybe I'm

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Speaker 1: in love with you. I don't know. It might be happy,

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Speaker 1: it might be folling right now. It's a wig draped

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Speaker 1: on top of a television set and underneath are like

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Speaker 1: two crossed guns. Even better with like nachos and French

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Speaker 1: fries just just crowded around it. Just perfect. Man, you know,

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Speaker 1: not a lot, and then everything you know work since

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Speaker 1: we last talk, after continuing my just my quest to

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Speaker 1: be chilled, my quest just to settle in my quest

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Speaker 1: to give as little fuss as possible about things that

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Speaker 1: don't impact my life directly. Um always always propatizing Miss

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Speaker 1: Dolly Parton, trying to get the word out that is

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Speaker 1: one of my main purposes on this life, in edition

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Speaker 1: to making people laugh, as making sure that everybody understands

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Speaker 1: and realizes that Dolly Parton will change your life and

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Speaker 1: that you need at least a sliver of her magic

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Speaker 1: in your world to shine on your face that you

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Speaker 1: know everything's gonna be okay, because she is a living, breathing,

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Speaker 1: walking angel on this earth, blessing us with gifts every day.

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Speaker 1: Even when you don't know what Dolly Parton is doing

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Speaker 1: something for you. You know what I mean? I got

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Speaker 1: this is I love it? Oh wow. And then it's

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Speaker 1: like a cowboy rope with two stars. But it's took

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Speaker 1: it evoking the breasts wonderful because I mean, how long

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Speaker 1: did that take? How long did it take for that?

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Speaker 1: Actually it was pretty quick. It was like maybe an hour,

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Speaker 1: hour and fifteen. They're just cooking with gas. Yeah, hands

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Speaker 1: some sweets out of Nashville. He's amazing. Check him out,

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Speaker 1: Welcome taste Nashville. He's amazing, great, great, great tattoo artist. Yeah, Aaron,

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Speaker 1: what is something from your search history that's revealing about

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Speaker 1: who you are? Okay, this one's juicy? Are you too ready?

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Speaker 1: This really explains my entire life in one of a

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Speaker 1: search because that something I don't know. I haven't had

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Speaker 1: enough coffee. Okay, this happened like last night, but again

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Speaker 1: I searched it again this morning I searched. The sentence

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Speaker 1: is Samantha ker and Christie Muis dating. Wow, Because now

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Speaker 1: if you don't know who those women are, get ready

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Speaker 1: to have your mind blown. Samantha Kerr is the Australian

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Speaker 1: women's national team best player football soccer soccer, but over

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Speaker 1: there they call it football. Who cares. Christie Muis made

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Speaker 1: our US women's national team this year, phenomenal NWSL player

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Speaker 1: and icing on the cake. Her sister plays Samantha Music Muis.

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Speaker 1: So it's like this amazing dream team sister soccer. So

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Speaker 1: last night I'm just doing my Olympic you know, recount,

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Speaker 1: just to make to make sure I've got I mean

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Speaker 1: I've just literally watched Olympics twenty four hours a day

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Speaker 1: the greatest thing ever. Just crying, crying, crying, feel good,

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Speaker 1: feel good, feel good, you know, cheating for everybody. I'm

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Speaker 1: not looking, you know, crying, crying, crying, everyone's getting second dime,

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Speaker 1: gold medal, gold medal, gold medal, China, China, China. Then

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Speaker 1: I stumble on a picture of Samantha Christie. Mu was

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Speaker 1: no idea she was gay. Maybe she's not, Maybe she

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Speaker 1: that they're kissing. They released it on Instagram and Aaron

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Speaker 1: Foley's mine was blown blowed So what I mean? What

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Speaker 1: I mean, what do we do with this? Were you

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Speaker 1: even shooting them before? Did this blow you up? Because

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Speaker 1: you're like, I don't even I don't even think. First

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Speaker 1: of all, Samantha Kurr has had a long term, long

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Speaker 1: know they broke up. Then they broke up. Christie muse.

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Speaker 1: But you know what I mean, You're like that one's

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Speaker 1: So I'm so happy right now We've got like this

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Speaker 1: cross Samantha Curry is like just a dream sequence. On

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Speaker 1: the soccer field, I fear the most when we play Australia.

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Speaker 1: So the fact that they're dating the Matilda's I'm just

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Speaker 1: just like the world getting a little gayer. It just

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Speaker 1: makes me so happy. Real life Lward drama here is

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Speaker 1: do you do you think under the surface, do you

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Speaker 1: think that there's you know, you said she had she

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Speaker 1: has a partner who she has a like they're raising

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Speaker 1: the timing is a messy? Is this sloppy? Is it?

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Speaker 1: I don't, I don't, I don't know. I hope it's

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Speaker 1: all okay. That's where my trash TV brain comes in

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Speaker 1: and like, tell me it's a mess. It's women, so

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Speaker 1: it's probably little mess a little of Light. Mess I

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Speaker 1: used to have this thing where you know, like it's old,

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Speaker 1: like you know it was an old joke, but really

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Speaker 1: it's based on the based on the truth. Like men,

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Speaker 1: you know, they just run gay men just run into

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Speaker 1: a bar and stick it in, right, But women like

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Speaker 1: our app would be called like on the Verge where

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Speaker 1: you got an update of two women on the verge

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Speaker 1: of breaking up because lessbians are single for thirty five

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Speaker 1: the house. So right, rotting flesh. Right, if you guys

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Speaker 1: are are if you guys are these carrying birds, then

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Speaker 1: it's like on the Verge is more positive, Miles, the

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Speaker 1: rotting Fledge. What about what tis? Yeah, okay, we'll get

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Speaker 1: to know. Right, So it's in so I feel like

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Speaker 1: they're both single for thirty five seconds. I'm going to

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Speaker 1: say there's probably there's I'm going to vote for Messy.

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Speaker 1: I'd say I'd bet on a mess appropriate pun considering

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Speaker 1: you know. Lionel Messi Big in the News also shot

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Speaker 1: shout out to them to Paris forgetting that guy. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean shout out to them for flouting every financial

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Speaker 1: neymar and Bob Bay, now we have Messy. Don't ask

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Speaker 1: how we can afford it, Okay, unimportant. Yeah, we'll just

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Speaker 1: don't know. I don't know that supergroup, supergroup, Yeah, definitely

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Speaker 1: a supergroup. What is something you think is overrated? Okay,

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Speaker 1: into the zeitgeist. The twelve foot skeleton is overrated? Wow,

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Speaker 1: because I want one and I don't. And it's they're

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Speaker 1: all okay, I was. I had a home depot yesterday

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Speaker 1: to me. Yes, they're they're they've been delivered at the

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Speaker 1: home depots, but they haven't been on the floor. They're

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Speaker 1: He used to work here now rafters like some phantom

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Speaker 1: of the operation, some putting it out there. Twelve foot

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Speaker 1: skeleton is overrated. It is, It's hacked. Don't get it,

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Speaker 1: especially at the Glendale home depot. Don't even try to

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Speaker 1: go there and sweet talk a manager into giving it

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Speaker 1: to you early. M M. Not gonna know. It's bullshit.

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Speaker 1: It's still bank won by the five Freeway. I hear

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Speaker 1: they're plumb out of them. But anyway, exactly, exactly exactly,

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Speaker 1: You've been pretty consistent with your love of twelve foot

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Speaker 1: skeleton if I require, I love them so much. There's

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Speaker 1: one in my neighborhood nearby that they dressed it up

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Speaker 1: It's so funny. It's consistently it's just been consistently up

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Speaker 1: all year. It's so funny looking. It brightens my day

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Speaker 1: every time I see it. Me and my neighbor want

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Speaker 1: a one mini golf hole underneath of its feet so

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Speaker 1: you can shoot, just put right into it. But where

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Speaker 1: I need to get one? This year? I'm in a

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Speaker 1: twelve foot scales and Facebook group because they're so hard

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Speaker 1: to get. I want one so badly. You can't buy

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Speaker 1: them online, right because they're hard to ship. Well, no,

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Speaker 1: they're completely sold out online to the point that then

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Speaker 1: they were also limited to to pre order because they're

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Speaker 1: showing up an eBay for like five times what they're

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Speaker 1: to ten of them because there's such a big boxes.

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Speaker 1: got the inside track, please help Brandy out. Yeah, please

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Speaker 1: deserve a twelve foot skeleton. Thank you. Look, it's the

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Speaker 1: only thing I got. I go to Lows for everything

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Speaker 1: else I promised I do. I hate THEE Depot. I

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Speaker 1: just want to goddamn twelve foot skeleton. That's all I want.

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Speaker 1: And they got to just to market locked. Huh, you

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Speaker 1: don't go anywhere else. I think that I think this

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Speaker 1: is something the Senate needs to take up. It sounds

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Speaker 1: like some kind of a monopoly Chuck Schumer ring Ring. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: suddenly they're like in the antitrust ship because it's the

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Speaker 1: Depot can't be the only place that does that. See,

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Speaker 1: we know how, we know what fairness is. I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: get Diane fine Steed on the phone and be like,

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Speaker 1: you like skeletons because you are one. I got a

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Speaker 1: twelve foot skeleton. She's like, what I have? Mel Oh no,

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Speaker 1: never mind, Diane, never mind? What something you think is underrated? Alright? Underrated?

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Speaker 1: Then I'm gonna let you guys know I wrote one

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Speaker 1: thing that I think is under an overrated, simultaneous perfect underrated.

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Speaker 1: Like in popular stuff, that's all right. You could like

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Speaker 1: Marvel TV shows. You could like the stuff that everyone likes.

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Speaker 1: That's fine, keep doing it. You could like I can't

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Speaker 1: think of music. You could like Gaga is gonna beat

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Speaker 1: my example, Billy Lady Gaga old my. But you know,

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Speaker 1: I mean it's fine. You can like Billy Joel Yeah

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Speaker 1: you can. You guys do like the popular stuff. You

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Speaker 1: guys could like Elvis. You guys like this new artist

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Speaker 1: Dolly parton. You could like whoever, but it's fine. Just

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Speaker 1: you get to talk about it with everybody. You could

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Speaker 1: like the NBA finals, watch the NBA Finals and like

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Speaker 1: the thing with everybody. It's fine. What's a specific thing

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Speaker 1: that sort of inspired this? I think it was like

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Speaker 1: everyone was immediately turning on and I haven't watched the

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Speaker 1: new Marvel but everyone's like turning on the Marvel TV

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Speaker 1: do this, yeah, right, I love people tell me what

425
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Speaker 1: to do. Yeah, I make I get more time to

426
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Speaker 1: do other stuff. Well that's because you're a sub right, Yeah,

427
00:23:50,240 --> 00:23:51,800
Speaker 1: that's fair. I was going to say that, I was

428
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Speaker 1: gonna let you know that you're a sub like just

429
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Speaker 1: from the start, I just wanted to, Yeah, make sure

430
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Speaker 1: you knew. Now both tell me I am at the

431
00:24:00,400 --> 00:24:04,600
Speaker 1: same time. Well hold up, now, hold on, No, that's

432
00:24:04,600 --> 00:24:08,000
Speaker 1: not very sussive behavior. Fan. You're right, you're right, you're right,

433
00:24:08,000 --> 00:24:10,200
Speaker 1: you're right. All right, let's take a quick break. We'll

434
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Speaker 1: come back and talk about what's happening right now. And

435
00:24:22,280 --> 00:24:26,560
Speaker 1: we're back, and what happened with Cuomo. I've been I've

436
00:24:26,560 --> 00:24:29,160
Speaker 1: been gone for the past week, week and a half.

437
00:24:29,200 --> 00:24:32,680
Speaker 1: I mean everything you were in New York. You didn't

438
00:24:32,680 --> 00:24:40,480
Speaker 1: hear them shouting from the windows. Hey, I'm I was

439
00:24:40,600 --> 00:24:42,640
Speaker 1: kicking it with him, but he wasn't really bringing it up.

440
00:24:42,680 --> 00:24:45,879
Speaker 1: He didn't like, I'm talking about that book deal he

441
00:24:45,960 --> 00:24:50,520
Speaker 1: eked out at the last second. The pandemic then and

442
00:24:50,600 --> 00:24:54,800
Speaker 1: how to you know, obscure death counts and elderly facilities,

443
00:24:54,840 --> 00:24:59,120
Speaker 1: elder care facilities. But yeah, looked in case and I know, Jack,

444
00:24:59,119 --> 00:25:00,960
Speaker 1: you're being serious, So I will explain what happens. So

445
00:25:01,040 --> 00:25:03,000
Speaker 1: Andrew Cuomo, he's the governor of New York and he's

446
00:25:03,000 --> 00:25:06,600
Speaker 1: been embroiled into sexual harassment scandal tissue. James, the Attorney

447
00:25:06,600 --> 00:25:08,920
Speaker 1: General of the State of New York, released last week

448
00:25:09,000 --> 00:25:11,919
Speaker 1: a scathing report with all the findings. It was essentially

449
00:25:11,960 --> 00:25:16,080
Speaker 1: saying like it's it arises to criminal sexual harassment state

450
00:25:16,160 --> 00:25:18,760
Speaker 1: and federal level. And I think at that point he

451
00:25:18,800 --> 00:25:23,240
Speaker 1: was like, because the thing is, everyone's like this is bad.

452
00:25:23,240 --> 00:25:25,240
Speaker 1: I wonder if he's going to resign. And he went

453
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Speaker 1: down a fucking weird road on his way to resigning.

454
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Speaker 1: I haven't been following this, but did he go with

455
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Speaker 1: My parents taught me to be handsy? And then here's

456
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Speaker 1: a highlight of I'm Italian. I believe one slug that

457
00:25:41,880 --> 00:25:44,679
Speaker 1: we saw on TV. My hands are just flopping and flipping.

458
00:25:44,800 --> 00:25:47,119
Speaker 1: I don't I don't know what they're touching. It's like

459
00:25:47,160 --> 00:25:50,000
Speaker 1: a perverted Bart Simpson of like, I'm just gonna walk

460
00:25:50,080 --> 00:25:53,040
Speaker 1: this way and grab whatever comes into my hand. What

461
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Speaker 1: do I do in these hands? If they clasped like

462
00:25:55,240 --> 00:25:57,560
Speaker 1: this and there's a something there, I don't know, I

463
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Speaker 1: can't do anything about it. So he had these like,

464
00:26:00,359 --> 00:26:02,960
Speaker 1: first of all, his lawyers said some real dumb ship

465
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Speaker 1: that They're like, do you think that the governor would

466
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Speaker 1: actually molest someone in the governor's mansion, where he is

467
00:26:11,040 --> 00:26:16,280
Speaker 1: constantly being observed. That would be absolutely ridiculous behavior. That

468
00:26:16,400 --> 00:26:19,159
Speaker 1: was like their defense, and most people like, right, that

469
00:26:19,280 --> 00:26:21,639
Speaker 1: is ridiculous behavior, and that's what he engaged in. So

470
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Speaker 1: I don't think that I don't think that negates. Okay, Sorry,

471
00:26:25,440 --> 00:26:28,280
Speaker 1: Then he did the mixtape. He put out the mixtape

472
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Speaker 1: of him violating people's personal space where he was like,

473
00:26:31,600 --> 00:26:33,800
Speaker 1: I do it all the time, and then attempts to

474
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Speaker 1: try and dodge the accountability. And then Pelosi, Joe Biden,

475
00:26:38,119 --> 00:26:39,919
Speaker 1: they're like, hey, you need to give it up. His

476
00:26:40,000 --> 00:26:43,080
Speaker 1: close his executive assistant who's also kind of implicated in

477
00:26:43,080 --> 00:26:47,200
Speaker 1: this ship, and Melissa to Rosa she resigned. Then Brittany Camiso,

478
00:26:47,320 --> 00:26:49,640
Speaker 1: who was another person who worked for him, she gave

479
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Speaker 1: up her ananimity to come out and bring more allegations

480
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Speaker 1: and then demand that he be held accountable. And just

481
00:26:55,280 --> 00:26:57,439
Speaker 1: when you thought the state legislators like, I guess we're

482
00:26:57,480 --> 00:26:59,119
Speaker 1: gonna have to impeach him because he's not doing the

483
00:26:59,200 --> 00:27:03,080
Speaker 1: right thing, he's like I'm out, yeah, finally, I mean

484
00:27:03,119 --> 00:27:05,720
Speaker 1: didn't he also like listed off like every different kind

485
00:27:05,760 --> 00:27:07,800
Speaker 1: of person that he's molested. He was like a molessed

486
00:27:07,920 --> 00:27:14,440
Speaker 1: old people, young people people. Yeah, if you got skin,

487
00:27:14,560 --> 00:27:17,800
Speaker 1: I've touched it. Baby, Like if there's a parade for you,

488
00:27:18,280 --> 00:27:21,720
Speaker 1: I touched you. Yeah. Yeah, exactly, like in defense of

489
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Speaker 1: himself and you're like, buddy, this is none of this

490
00:27:24,760 --> 00:27:31,840
Speaker 1: is yeah, And you know, I think the all of

491
00:27:31,880 --> 00:27:35,240
Speaker 1: it came together he realized it. There was the jig

492
00:27:35,359 --> 00:27:38,080
Speaker 1: was well and truly up, like if there's no way

493
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Speaker 1: you're going to dodge this. And I think the other

494
00:27:41,080 --> 00:27:43,760
Speaker 1: thing too was that the people, you know, democrats too,

495
00:27:43,800 --> 00:27:45,920
Speaker 1: they were like willing to impeach him and not only

496
00:27:45,960 --> 00:27:49,359
Speaker 1: just look at this like explosive report, but I was like,

497
00:27:49,400 --> 00:27:51,720
Speaker 1: you know, we also are really curious about the nursing

498
00:27:51,760 --> 00:27:54,000
Speaker 1: home deaths in New York that you did a good

499
00:27:54,080 --> 00:27:57,560
Speaker 1: job of covering up. And I think that created a

500
00:27:57,560 --> 00:28:00,639
Speaker 1: bit of a log jam for him, alized that he

501
00:28:00,680 --> 00:28:02,720
Speaker 1: didn't maybe want that public. But there's a lot of

502
00:28:02,720 --> 00:28:05,919
Speaker 1: stuff that It's just weird how much this ship swung

503
00:28:06,480 --> 00:28:10,800
Speaker 1: because last year motherfucker's were so horny for this dude.

504
00:28:11,160 --> 00:28:12,919
Speaker 1: It was like, you, I wonder if he's chill and

505
00:28:12,960 --> 00:28:15,280
Speaker 1: has nipple rings. Remember when that was some ship we

506
00:28:15,280 --> 00:28:20,240
Speaker 1: were talking about rings under He's good. He's like a

507
00:28:20,280 --> 00:28:28,600
Speaker 1: good books. You seem you're like, unfortunately, yeah, that's the problem, right,

508
00:28:28,920 --> 00:28:32,719
Speaker 1: And I think his like reasonable guy bit looked really

509
00:28:32,760 --> 00:28:35,479
Speaker 1: good when it was set against the backdrop of trump

510
00:28:35,840 --> 00:28:40,200
Speaker 1: absolute absurd handling or mishandling of the entire pandemic. So

511
00:28:40,840 --> 00:28:44,920
Speaker 1: we had these Cuomo tinted glasses on or I mean not,

512
00:28:45,000 --> 00:28:48,240
Speaker 1: I think most people are like, this still is not great. Well,

513
00:28:48,240 --> 00:28:50,880
Speaker 1: the media I really wanted to paint him that as

514
00:28:50,920 --> 00:28:52,680
Speaker 1: the savior because they also were like, I mean at

515
00:28:52,720 --> 00:28:54,840
Speaker 1: that point too, they were also like, anybody that keeps

516
00:28:54,840 --> 00:28:57,560
Speaker 1: Bertie Standers out of the White House, maybe Andrew Cuomo

517
00:28:57,680 --> 00:29:00,680
Speaker 1: will be the answer, right, I do. I do love

518
00:29:00,760 --> 00:29:03,200
Speaker 1: sucking Joe Biden being like, you touched a lot of

519
00:29:03,240 --> 00:29:06,480
Speaker 1: people inappropriately. You're gonna need to resign, buddy, and a

520
00:29:06,560 --> 00:29:10,480
Speaker 1: sexual harassment allegation. I think you should resign. I'm sorry, Joe,

521
00:29:11,320 --> 00:29:15,120
Speaker 1: do you interesting? Remember Tara read Or? Is that is this?

522
00:29:15,240 --> 00:29:18,160
Speaker 1: We're being really selective here, But this is the other

523
00:29:18,200 --> 00:29:22,120
Speaker 1: thing that was really wild to like. This also got

524
00:29:22,160 --> 00:29:26,280
Speaker 1: people in the Times Up organization caught up. ROBERTA. Kaplan,

525
00:29:26,320 --> 00:29:28,160
Speaker 1: who's one of the founders of times up. You know,

526
00:29:28,200 --> 00:29:30,360
Speaker 1: it's like that group that was created at the height

527
00:29:30,400 --> 00:29:32,200
Speaker 1: of the Meat Too movement to sort of act as

528
00:29:32,240 --> 00:29:36,920
Speaker 1: this organization to provide legal advice and representation for people

529
00:29:36,960 --> 00:29:39,440
Speaker 1: who were being harassed at work. You know, she was

530
00:29:39,440 --> 00:29:41,760
Speaker 1: also she argued the same sex marriage case in front

531
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Speaker 1: of the Supreme Court. She resigned after it was revealed

532
00:29:44,800 --> 00:29:48,719
Speaker 1: in these in this report that she was advising Cuomo's

533
00:29:48,800 --> 00:29:52,600
Speaker 1: office on how to publicly discredit Lindsey Boylan, who was

534
00:29:52,640 --> 00:29:56,280
Speaker 1: one of his accusers. And again this is the same

535
00:29:56,360 --> 00:29:58,480
Speaker 1: times up to said oh, sorry, Tara read, we can't

536
00:29:58,480 --> 00:30:01,360
Speaker 1: help you because we don't want to lose our nonprofit

537
00:30:01,440 --> 00:30:05,440
Speaker 1: status like going after someone who's running for office. Yep,

538
00:30:06,160 --> 00:30:07,600
Speaker 1: a lot. I feel like a lot of things were

539
00:30:07,600 --> 00:30:10,920
Speaker 1: revealed very like quickly with just it's not just Andrew Cuomo,

540
00:30:11,000 --> 00:30:13,000
Speaker 1: but a lot of the failings of you know, these

541
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Speaker 1: other organizations as well. Oh absolutely, well, I mean it's

542
00:30:16,440 --> 00:30:18,920
Speaker 1: so it's as long as they agree with your politics

543
00:30:19,160 --> 00:30:23,880
Speaker 1: then you know that then exactly. It's infuriating, and it's

544
00:30:23,880 --> 00:30:27,240
Speaker 1: also just like it really undermines there's there are a

545
00:30:27,280 --> 00:30:29,520
Speaker 1: lot of really good nonprofits out there, but so many

546
00:30:29,520 --> 00:30:32,720
Speaker 1: nonprofits also sort of like serve as a place that

547
00:30:33,320 --> 00:30:35,560
Speaker 1: the will of the people and an energy to people

548
00:30:35,600 --> 00:30:38,040
Speaker 1: just like get sucked up into it stopped because they

549
00:30:38,080 --> 00:30:40,880
Speaker 1: exist to like just serve the status quo in a

550
00:30:40,880 --> 00:30:43,720
Speaker 1: lot of ways. And it's really frustrating, especially with something

551
00:30:43,760 --> 00:30:46,000
Speaker 1: like this. It's like how many you know times of

552
00:30:46,160 --> 00:30:49,880
Speaker 1: like me too, things have like just died because you know, okay,

553
00:30:49,880 --> 00:30:52,280
Speaker 1: well that organizations is on our side and they're taking

554
00:30:52,280 --> 00:30:55,040
Speaker 1: care of it, and it's like not really because they

555
00:30:55,080 --> 00:30:57,760
Speaker 1: are ultimately beholding to the power of that they agree with,

556
00:30:58,240 --> 00:31:00,600
Speaker 1: right And also that's the class that they're from to

557
00:31:00,840 --> 00:31:03,880
Speaker 1: These are all elite people who who are the founders

558
00:31:03,880 --> 00:31:06,400
Speaker 1: of the organization and at the end of the day,

559
00:31:06,440 --> 00:31:09,040
Speaker 1: like when you're fundraising, that's part of being a non profit.

560
00:31:09,640 --> 00:31:11,680
Speaker 1: You got there's a lot of navigating you have to do.

561
00:31:11,800 --> 00:31:16,240
Speaker 1: And and and it's not just Roberted Kaplan who had like,

562
00:31:16,480 --> 00:31:18,080
Speaker 1: you know, this kind of stuff come out. There was

563
00:31:18,080 --> 00:31:21,400
Speaker 1: an also thing esther too. She was also like there

564
00:31:21,400 --> 00:31:26,240
Speaker 1: were eighteen members of like this health care organization. They're like, yo,

565
00:31:26,360 --> 00:31:28,880
Speaker 1: you you're you're like, you just failed to report a

566
00:31:28,920 --> 00:31:31,560
Speaker 1: sexual harassment claim at the hospital that you worked at.

567
00:31:32,360 --> 00:31:36,800
Speaker 1: So it's it's definitely. You know, it goes to show

568
00:31:36,800 --> 00:31:39,760
Speaker 1: you the limits of sort of what some organizations can do,

569
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Speaker 1: especially when you think of like how the leadership is

570
00:31:41,920 --> 00:31:46,520
Speaker 1: composed because they're you know, looking out for each other essentially. Yeah,

571
00:31:46,560 --> 00:31:48,960
Speaker 1: it's like class will never betray class will never betray

572
00:31:48,960 --> 00:31:51,880
Speaker 1: itself at a certain level, unfortunately, and that's a lesson

573
00:31:52,240 --> 00:31:57,040
Speaker 1: smear an accuser. Yeah. Absolutely, The neo liberal sort of

574
00:31:57,120 --> 00:32:01,680
Speaker 1: centrist position has just been the status quo for so

575
00:32:01,680 --> 00:32:06,479
Speaker 1: so long that it just fucking infects everything that is

576
00:32:06,520 --> 00:32:09,960
Speaker 1: not like does not define itself in opposition to it.

577
00:32:10,200 --> 00:32:12,600
Speaker 1: And so well, it also points out, I think something

578
00:32:12,640 --> 00:32:14,320
Speaker 1: that has always been an issue within me to move

579
00:32:14,640 --> 00:32:16,680
Speaker 1: me to move and times up is also like there

580
00:32:16,840 --> 00:32:19,720
Speaker 1: is no element of like restorative justice. There is no

581
00:32:19,840 --> 00:32:22,720
Speaker 1: second step, which also makes it so hard I think

582
00:32:22,760 --> 00:32:25,440
Speaker 1: to like, once somebody has been accused and they get

583
00:32:25,440 --> 00:32:28,280
Speaker 1: canceled and go away, but that these organizations have never

584
00:32:28,360 --> 00:32:31,120
Speaker 1: been like Okay, well what is how do you make amends?

585
00:32:31,160 --> 00:32:33,240
Speaker 1: Like what is the way to still exist in a

586
00:32:33,280 --> 00:32:36,360
Speaker 1: society with these people in some capacity if that removing them?

587
00:32:36,400 --> 00:32:37,960
Speaker 1: Is that like you know, there needs to be a

588
00:32:38,000 --> 00:32:41,320
Speaker 1: second step acknowledged, and they just have never wanted to

589
00:32:41,320 --> 00:32:44,240
Speaker 1: talk about that next step because they're also all financially comfortable,

590
00:32:44,240 --> 00:32:46,080
Speaker 1: and they also don't think that it will ever affect

591
00:32:46,080 --> 00:32:49,440
Speaker 1: them directly, you know, And that's it's so it's it's

592
00:32:49,440 --> 00:32:52,120
Speaker 1: always had like a second problem, and it's especially true

593
00:32:52,120 --> 00:32:53,960
Speaker 1: in the cases like this, because it's like, we can't

594
00:32:53,960 --> 00:32:57,320
Speaker 1: cancel Auomo because then he'll just we won't we won't

595
00:32:57,360 --> 00:33:00,360
Speaker 1: have him as a pawn on our board anymore, right right,

596
00:33:00,560 --> 00:33:02,680
Speaker 1: you know, well, yeah, now the New York has their

597
00:33:02,720 --> 00:33:05,880
Speaker 1: first woman governor because of this. And the other thing

598
00:33:06,000 --> 00:33:08,200
Speaker 1: is just like the couple of things that um a

599
00:33:08,200 --> 00:33:11,080
Speaker 1: lot of people point out in our absolute love affair

600
00:33:11,200 --> 00:33:13,400
Speaker 1: of the the guy who sat down in front of

601
00:33:13,400 --> 00:33:15,880
Speaker 1: power point presentations every day to be like this is

602
00:33:15,920 --> 00:33:17,880
Speaker 1: where we're at and this is what we're trying to do.

603
00:33:18,320 --> 00:33:19,840
Speaker 1: There are a lot of things that he did that

604
00:33:20,160 --> 00:33:23,520
Speaker 1: people just sort of overlooked, Like he was first kind

605
00:33:23,560 --> 00:33:25,640
Speaker 1: of being like, the pandemic is not going to be

606
00:33:25,720 --> 00:33:29,280
Speaker 1: that bad, saying, you know, underplaying the severity of it. Also,

607
00:33:29,440 --> 00:33:32,360
Speaker 1: just didn't want to lock the city down. I think

608
00:33:32,480 --> 00:33:34,840
Speaker 1: you know, that's I think that's would have happened to

609
00:33:34,880 --> 00:33:37,640
Speaker 1: any leader because they were not well, I mean it

610
00:33:37,760 --> 00:33:39,880
Speaker 1: is what that is. But yeah, definitely a misstep. But

611
00:33:39,960 --> 00:33:45,600
Speaker 1: then in March of like ordering that nursing homes except

612
00:33:45,680 --> 00:33:51,240
Speaker 1: COVID patients from hospitals. That was a huge, huge, disastrous book.

613
00:33:51,440 --> 00:33:53,920
Speaker 1: That was the first act of the cover up of

614
00:33:54,040 --> 00:33:58,280
Speaker 1: nursing home deaths that I didn't they I hadn't like

615
00:33:58,400 --> 00:34:02,480
Speaker 1: fully let enter my brain as like part of that story.

616
00:34:02,560 --> 00:34:05,080
Speaker 1: But that was why he was So it wasn't just

617
00:34:05,160 --> 00:34:07,640
Speaker 1: like keeping New York's numbers low. It was because he

618
00:34:07,760 --> 00:34:11,839
Speaker 1: made a controversial decision to let people who were leaving

619
00:34:11,880 --> 00:34:16,839
Speaker 1: hospitals due to COVID related things back into nursing home.

620
00:34:16,880 --> 00:34:19,480
Speaker 1: So it was like covering his ass for an earlier,

621
00:34:19,960 --> 00:34:23,279
Speaker 1: highly questionable decision. Well, it's infuriating because like I mean,

622
00:34:23,640 --> 00:34:27,200
Speaker 1: we have how many empty apartment buildings are there in

623
00:34:27,239 --> 00:34:28,960
Speaker 1: New York right now? I mean I look around l A.

624
00:34:29,080 --> 00:34:31,359
Speaker 1: I can't imagine it's probably comfortable to how many just

625
00:34:31,440 --> 00:34:34,399
Speaker 1: like fancy high rises just or just or open how

626
00:34:34,400 --> 00:34:37,399
Speaker 1: many hotel hotels? Nobody was in hotels. There's no reason

627
00:34:37,440 --> 00:34:39,520
Speaker 1: you couldn't acommodate to hotel and put people in that

628
00:34:39,600 --> 00:34:44,920
Speaker 1: for like recovery. It's a capitalist plants taking care of itself. Yeah,

629
00:34:45,080 --> 00:34:47,160
Speaker 1: because it's like that, with like this sort of any

630
00:34:47,200 --> 00:34:50,280
Speaker 1: o liberal thinking, the charity only works to a point,

631
00:34:50,320 --> 00:34:53,720
Speaker 1: and that's when it could potentially cause a business owner,

632
00:34:53,800 --> 00:34:57,840
Speaker 1: like a mega business corporation some they're like not paying,

633
00:34:57,920 --> 00:35:01,160
Speaker 1: Like what, that's not our problem, and like we need

634
00:35:01,200 --> 00:35:03,480
Speaker 1: that fundamental ship for people. Go No, it is all

635
00:35:03,480 --> 00:35:05,640
Speaker 1: of our problem actually, because that's we're trying to have

636
00:35:05,680 --> 00:35:08,319
Speaker 1: a just society. So we have to figure out how

637
00:35:08,360 --> 00:35:11,000
Speaker 1: to support each to each other and make sacrifice. Won't

638
00:35:11,040 --> 00:35:16,080
Speaker 1: someone think of the Hilton? Won't someone think of the Hilton? Exactly?

639
00:35:16,440 --> 00:35:18,759
Speaker 1: I mean it wasn't. One of them recently was like

640
00:35:19,120 --> 00:35:21,320
Speaker 1: she's like, I hope she almost died of beast things

641
00:35:21,760 --> 00:35:26,360
Speaker 1: God for God's sake, So please yeah, exactly. Anaflex is

642
00:35:26,400 --> 00:35:29,160
Speaker 1: not a joke, but please think of the Hilton. The

643
00:35:29,200 --> 00:35:32,560
Speaker 1: Delta variant is shown to be more deadly and more

644
00:35:33,360 --> 00:35:37,880
Speaker 1: infectious with children than any version before. FDA administrators are

645
00:35:37,880 --> 00:35:42,640
Speaker 1: starting to sound the alarm and it's I think I

646
00:35:42,680 --> 00:35:45,799
Speaker 1: think there. Visor is playing to submit data for kids

647
00:35:45,880 --> 00:35:48,839
Speaker 1: under twelve to the f d A in September, at

648
00:35:48,840 --> 00:35:51,280
Speaker 1: which point will need to go through the approval process,

649
00:35:51,400 --> 00:35:55,319
Speaker 1: So like that's as soon as we're gonna be able

650
00:35:55,360 --> 00:35:59,200
Speaker 1: to get kids to even have the option to get vaccinated.

651
00:35:59,520 --> 00:36:04,239
Speaker 1: So it's just this is the point at which you know,

652
00:36:04,800 --> 00:36:08,200
Speaker 1: this whole thing. I just feel like we've been watching

653
00:36:08,239 --> 00:36:13,080
Speaker 1: somebody have uh an embarrassing temper tantrum for the past

654
00:36:13,120 --> 00:36:17,319
Speaker 1: five years, just over and over and just waiting for

655
00:36:17,360 --> 00:36:21,080
Speaker 1: them to shut the funk up. And now they're starting

656
00:36:21,080 --> 00:36:24,839
Speaker 1: to like put kids at risk. And I don't know,

657
00:36:24,920 --> 00:36:27,840
Speaker 1: it's I don't know the answer, but we'll have to

658
00:36:27,840 --> 00:36:31,160
Speaker 1: see the math on uh, whether it was like the

659
00:36:31,239 --> 00:36:33,719
Speaker 1: kids versus the Dow Jones, you know what I mean,

660
00:36:33,760 --> 00:36:36,640
Speaker 1: what's more important? If it's like two kids per point,

661
00:36:37,200 --> 00:36:39,360
Speaker 1: you gotta then be like, you know, what were the

662
00:36:39,400 --> 00:36:41,440
Speaker 1: kids test scores? And do we care about that? And

663
00:36:41,480 --> 00:36:43,080
Speaker 1: you can figure out if we if it's okay if

664
00:36:43,120 --> 00:36:46,799
Speaker 1: they live and profit of the Nasdaq, which affects me

665
00:36:46,880 --> 00:36:49,080
Speaker 1: and I know you guys on a daily basis, we

666
00:36:49,360 --> 00:36:52,439
Speaker 1: can't really let that go. If that goes down, that's bad. Yeah.

667
00:36:52,719 --> 00:36:54,640
Speaker 1: If I sound down on the dumps, it is because

668
00:36:54,680 --> 00:36:58,520
Speaker 1: of the my nasdack portfolio, putting the down and down

669
00:36:58,520 --> 00:37:01,520
Speaker 1: on the dumps. You know, my endorsement levels are tied

670
00:37:01,560 --> 00:37:03,359
Speaker 1: to the stock market, right, I got a Robin Hood

671
00:37:03,400 --> 00:37:06,920
Speaker 1: referral that I'm really hoping pays off. So if these

672
00:37:06,960 --> 00:37:10,200
Speaker 1: kids die, I mean, who who really is that on? Yeah,

673
00:37:10,280 --> 00:37:15,279
Speaker 1: it's everything that you see like it's it's but from

674
00:37:15,360 --> 00:37:18,400
Speaker 1: especially Republican governors, you don't know like if they understand

675
00:37:18,480 --> 00:37:21,400
Speaker 1: the concept of the value of human life or like

676
00:37:21,440 --> 00:37:24,160
Speaker 1: what it would mean for a parent to lose their

677
00:37:24,239 --> 00:37:27,239
Speaker 1: child to this, because there's not that. It's almost that

678
00:37:27,280 --> 00:37:31,480
Speaker 1: thought process is completely absent from this decision making. Like

679
00:37:31,920 --> 00:37:34,600
Speaker 1: Asa Hutchinson of Arkansas, it seems to be the one,

680
00:37:34,680 --> 00:37:39,480
Speaker 1: like one one Republican government who's like, I pretty much

681
00:37:39,520 --> 00:37:43,080
Speaker 1: I fucked up, Like not in those harsh words, but

682
00:37:43,120 --> 00:37:47,360
Speaker 1: he's definitely like voicing regret over certain things that has happened.

683
00:37:47,520 --> 00:37:50,319
Speaker 1: Not to say that that excuses anything, but on some

684
00:37:50,440 --> 00:37:52,759
Speaker 1: level it feels like for him, he's like, yeah, it's

685
00:37:52,800 --> 00:37:55,000
Speaker 1: kind of hard to like keep keep this up, like

686
00:37:55,080 --> 00:37:58,600
Speaker 1: it's it's getting bad, folks, And yeah, when't you see

687
00:37:58,640 --> 00:38:03,720
Speaker 1: that this you know, mindset is now seeping into the

688
00:38:03,760 --> 00:38:07,480
Speaker 1: realm of parents trying to protect their children. I mean,

689
00:38:07,600 --> 00:38:10,600
Speaker 1: I feel like that's probably where we're gonna see more

690
00:38:10,600 --> 00:38:13,960
Speaker 1: people start coming to the side of like, we need

691
00:38:14,000 --> 00:38:16,719
Speaker 1: more mandates, we need more vaccines, because it's one thing

692
00:38:16,760 --> 00:38:18,719
Speaker 1: when you feel like, well, I'm an adult, and there

693
00:38:18,800 --> 00:38:20,840
Speaker 1: was like this fallacy of like and kids are immune,

694
00:38:21,040 --> 00:38:23,640
Speaker 1: so we're good, Like that's not a danger. But now

695
00:38:23,640 --> 00:38:26,279
Speaker 1: when you're seeing that cases for kids are going up

696
00:38:26,320 --> 00:38:28,040
Speaker 1: and up and up, and you have doctors like in

697
00:38:28,080 --> 00:38:30,560
Speaker 1: Florida like crying in these p s a s like

698
00:38:30,880 --> 00:38:33,120
Speaker 1: because they're trying to tell people like it's getting bad

699
00:38:33,160 --> 00:38:37,560
Speaker 1: and we're seeing more kids. Yeah, yeah, And I mean

700
00:38:38,320 --> 00:38:41,839
Speaker 1: there's lawsuits right now where parents of disabled students are

701
00:38:41,920 --> 00:38:44,879
Speaker 1: like suing the governor to to be like my kids

702
00:38:44,880 --> 00:38:47,200
Speaker 1: need to be protected. Like the funk you think this

703
00:38:47,320 --> 00:38:50,080
Speaker 1: is because it's not a game for me as a parent, right,

704
00:38:50,480 --> 00:38:54,520
Speaker 1: But I even find like people who are like we

705
00:38:54,640 --> 00:38:56,520
Speaker 1: when you're talking about how this is this A lot

706
00:38:56,560 --> 00:38:59,040
Speaker 1: of this is a fall out of like hyper capitalism

707
00:38:59,200 --> 00:39:03,480
Speaker 1: not being a viable solution and the people who let's

708
00:39:03,520 --> 00:39:05,400
Speaker 1: like these people who hate masks and these people who

709
00:39:05,480 --> 00:39:08,160
Speaker 1: want to ignore everything, even they are screaming about it

710
00:39:08,360 --> 00:39:10,120
Speaker 1: because they're like, well, I I have to drop my

711
00:39:10,200 --> 00:39:11,960
Speaker 1: kid off at school because I have to go do

712
00:39:12,000 --> 00:39:13,680
Speaker 1: this work, and I want to take these people big.

713
00:39:14,000 --> 00:39:17,479
Speaker 1: So you are so close. You are like, I need

714
00:39:17,600 --> 00:39:21,160
Speaker 1: school to have no changes because otherwise I can't do

715
00:39:21,440 --> 00:39:25,240
Speaker 1: my job in life. I require it. You're so close

716
00:39:25,320 --> 00:39:27,080
Speaker 1: to being like so, yeah, we need to just get

717
00:39:27,160 --> 00:39:29,360
Speaker 1: rid of this. This system is what is holding all

718
00:39:29,400 --> 00:39:31,759
Speaker 1: a lot of this back as well. Yeah, you're the

719
00:39:31,800 --> 00:39:35,200
Speaker 1: fact that you without school, you will lose your job

720
00:39:35,239 --> 00:39:36,680
Speaker 1: because you can't go in because you have to take

721
00:39:36,719 --> 00:39:38,960
Speaker 1: care of your And these are people who are like,

722
00:39:38,960 --> 00:39:41,000
Speaker 1: so that's why we shouldn't wear masks. And I'm like,

723
00:39:41,000 --> 00:39:43,920
Speaker 1: but you're just so you're so close. Yeah, and you again,

724
00:39:43,960 --> 00:39:47,280
Speaker 1: you are right at the door. The most propagandized people

725
00:39:47,280 --> 00:39:49,760
Speaker 1: on the planet, you know, living live in this country.

726
00:39:49,960 --> 00:39:55,360
Speaker 1: So it's just yeah, they're so close, but they're in

727
00:39:55,480 --> 00:39:58,960
Speaker 1: like it seems like an an impenetrable bubble that they've

728
00:39:59,000 --> 00:40:04,399
Speaker 1: swapped out there capitalism frustrations with COVID frustrations and are

729
00:40:04,440 --> 00:40:08,000
Speaker 1: just know that's the problem. It's not that. Yeah, there's

730
00:40:08,040 --> 00:40:11,640
Speaker 1: nothing shout out to Freud. There's nothing like that too,

731
00:40:11,920 --> 00:40:15,239
Speaker 1: you know, there's nothing that's connecting the dots because it's

732
00:40:15,239 --> 00:40:18,160
Speaker 1: just been so effectively hijacked like this, you know, and

733
00:40:18,200 --> 00:40:20,520
Speaker 1: I'm not smart enough to like even what I'm trying

734
00:40:20,560 --> 00:40:22,760
Speaker 1: to talk, I don't feel like I'm fully getting across

735
00:40:23,040 --> 00:40:25,399
Speaker 1: what I think even now I think about it. Let alone,

736
00:40:25,440 --> 00:40:27,799
Speaker 1: if I'm trying to talk to someone I know who

737
00:40:27,920 --> 00:40:31,320
Speaker 1: I think maybe I could get through too. I don't know.

738
00:40:31,360 --> 00:40:33,080
Speaker 1: I feel frustrated about it, and I think a lot

739
00:40:33,120 --> 00:40:35,399
Speaker 1: of people do where you're just like you just wanna

740
00:40:35,400 --> 00:40:38,799
Speaker 1: be no, like, but that's not You're like, if give

741
00:40:38,880 --> 00:40:41,800
Speaker 1: me six hours and let me find smarter people, And

742
00:40:42,040 --> 00:40:44,320
Speaker 1: but I just I can't even I get frustrated myself,

743
00:40:44,360 --> 00:40:47,200
Speaker 1: like I can't explain well now with the ideas and

744
00:40:47,200 --> 00:40:48,799
Speaker 1: how I feel about it and how and all this

745
00:40:48,880 --> 00:40:51,399
Speaker 1: sort of stuff. And the one time I got into

746
00:40:51,440 --> 00:40:53,960
Speaker 1: it with like a guy, it was just like, I

747
00:40:53,960 --> 00:40:55,839
Speaker 1: don't know, man, There's been a lot of I've heard

748
00:40:55,840 --> 00:40:57,960
Speaker 1: from a lot of people who said, like I just

749
00:40:57,960 --> 00:41:02,520
Speaker 1: couldn't be like, know, I know it's not a effective

750
00:41:02,600 --> 00:41:06,800
Speaker 1: way to win an argument, but I just like got

751
00:41:07,200 --> 00:41:10,239
Speaker 1: so piste off. It's just like it was just over

752
00:41:10,440 --> 00:41:13,800
Speaker 1: like I immediately, But it's the most important thing we do,

753
00:41:13,960 --> 00:41:15,239
Speaker 1: and I know it wasn't in the dock. But if

754
00:41:15,280 --> 00:41:18,080
Speaker 1: one NFL player kneels during the anthem this year, I

755
00:41:18,120 --> 00:41:25,440
Speaker 1: am going I'm gonna be so fucking pissed. Hey, real quick,

756
00:41:25,800 --> 00:41:29,000
Speaker 1: do you think Joe Biden said when when he saw

757
00:41:29,080 --> 00:41:31,560
Speaker 1: that his infrastructure built, that's sixty nine bos? Do you

758
00:41:31,560 --> 00:41:34,719
Speaker 1: think he said, nice, that's something I need to know.

759
00:41:35,000 --> 00:41:37,399
Speaker 1: I don't think he would never sixty nine. He doesn't

760
00:41:37,440 --> 00:41:43,320
Speaker 1: know what that is. Okay, he'd be like, what explaining

761
00:41:43,360 --> 00:41:47,239
Speaker 1: that to Joe? But come on, Jack, people don't do

762
00:41:47,280 --> 00:41:50,640
Speaker 1: that gross stuff. Put your mouth down there. Okay, what

763
00:41:50,719 --> 00:41:55,480
Speaker 1: do you? A veterinarian? Right? It's not as cream cone? Yeah,

764
00:41:55,520 --> 00:41:57,319
Speaker 1: I know what I mean. Yeah, I mean he he

765
00:41:57,400 --> 00:42:01,160
Speaker 1: definitely he He pulled off his bipart is in fucking

766
00:42:01,200 --> 00:42:04,720
Speaker 1: magic show, and like the Washington Posts, like Joe Biden

767
00:42:04,960 --> 00:42:12,200
Speaker 1: stunts again, he surprises us again with his Bipartisan Infrastructure Framework. Yeah,

768
00:42:12,200 --> 00:42:15,080
Speaker 1: I got sixty nine votes. It got over that uh

769
00:42:15,360 --> 00:42:17,680
Speaker 1: filibuster proof. You know, I gotta get over that sixty

770
00:42:17,960 --> 00:42:21,000
Speaker 1: sixty vote mark. And at one trillion dollars, the largest

771
00:42:21,000 --> 00:42:24,719
Speaker 1: bill of its kind. Nineteen Republicans got on board. But

772
00:42:24,760 --> 00:42:27,200
Speaker 1: don't worry, it's not for good reasons. I think many

773
00:42:27,239 --> 00:42:31,359
Speaker 1: saw this as an opportunity to support, like to put

774
00:42:31,360 --> 00:42:34,319
Speaker 1: throw their support behind something that just broadly pulls well.

775
00:42:34,440 --> 00:42:36,360
Speaker 1: It's like, hey man, you want less sucked up roads,

776
00:42:36,400 --> 00:42:38,959
Speaker 1: you want a bridge, you want a better airport. Okay, good.

777
00:42:39,200 --> 00:42:41,000
Speaker 1: I mean that's still people who think that's the what

778
00:42:41,120 --> 00:42:43,960
Speaker 1: the government's whole purposes a pothole, you know what I mean,

779
00:42:44,440 --> 00:42:49,920
Speaker 1: A pothole outside my building. Yeah, exactly. And so that

780
00:42:50,000 --> 00:42:51,880
Speaker 1: was definitely like a plus for them, like, Okay, I

781
00:42:51,880 --> 00:42:54,279
Speaker 1: can vote for this because it's also popular. And also

782
00:42:54,320 --> 00:42:56,279
Speaker 1: the nineteen that supported it, they were kind of like

783
00:42:56,320 --> 00:42:58,919
Speaker 1: in this place where they felt a little bit more

784
00:42:59,040 --> 00:43:03,000
Speaker 1: insulated from the maga outrage mobs of constituents that would

785
00:43:03,040 --> 00:43:05,520
Speaker 1: normally be like the four steps, Like, actually, I can't

786
00:43:05,560 --> 00:43:07,719
Speaker 1: because Trump is yelling at us to not support this

787
00:43:07,760 --> 00:43:10,560
Speaker 1: because he doesn't want buying into have an optics win.

788
00:43:11,000 --> 00:43:13,480
Speaker 1: But I think the real reason behind it is that

789
00:43:13,880 --> 00:43:17,040
Speaker 1: they wanted to pretend bipartisan ship works to sort of

790
00:43:17,080 --> 00:43:20,560
Speaker 1: take the fucking momentum out of the filibuster reform talk

791
00:43:20,640 --> 00:43:23,239
Speaker 1: that's happening right now. Because if they do that and go,

792
00:43:23,480 --> 00:43:25,120
Speaker 1: you see, like we figured it out. We did a

793
00:43:25,200 --> 00:43:28,799
Speaker 1: one trillion dollar. We voted for that. But then we

794
00:43:28,880 --> 00:43:32,080
Speaker 1: have this three point five trillion dollar reconciliation bill that

795
00:43:32,120 --> 00:43:35,399
Speaker 1: has the real ship in it, like the real, real

796
00:43:35,480 --> 00:43:38,160
Speaker 1: big programs that people are like saying like, yeah, this

797
00:43:38,239 --> 00:43:41,239
Speaker 1: is a kind of investment we need in people that

798
00:43:41,320 --> 00:43:42,960
Speaker 1: they can come around for that time like, oh, this

799
00:43:43,040 --> 00:43:45,719
Speaker 1: is too much? Is too much? You saw we were

800
00:43:45,760 --> 00:43:47,719
Speaker 1: able to do that, but this stuff, there's a line

801
00:43:47,760 --> 00:43:49,880
Speaker 1: with it. And don't say it's not bipartisanship because we

802
00:43:49,880 --> 00:43:53,320
Speaker 1: were there for that vote and they're sort of loading

803
00:43:53,400 --> 00:43:57,399
Speaker 1: the whole deck for that kind of showdown because right now, yeah,

804
00:43:57,440 --> 00:44:00,600
Speaker 1: I got this one trillion dollar thing, goes to the House. Uh,

805
00:44:00,600 --> 00:44:02,600
Speaker 1: Pelosi says, we're not going to vote on it until

806
00:44:02,640 --> 00:44:05,480
Speaker 1: you also passed the three point five truly bill and

807
00:44:05,520 --> 00:44:07,880
Speaker 1: see what happens then. And but already we have like

808
00:44:07,960 --> 00:44:11,000
Speaker 1: Joe Manchin on his fainting couch being like, it's so

809
00:44:11,040 --> 00:44:13,640
Speaker 1: I don't know, it's a lot of money, so there's

810
00:44:13,640 --> 00:44:15,200
Speaker 1: a lot of work to be done. It's and it's

811
00:44:15,239 --> 00:44:18,799
Speaker 1: just again frustrating because they maybe they'll figure it out,

812
00:44:18,920 --> 00:44:25,319
Speaker 1: but yeah, I look at what happens when Democrats like

813
00:44:25,719 --> 00:44:30,600
Speaker 1: actually take the filibuster, like seriously that that scares them.

814
00:44:30,600 --> 00:44:33,640
Speaker 1: And I just feel like this is democrats behaving like

815
00:44:33,760 --> 00:44:37,560
Speaker 1: Republicans and in the good way that it's like shrewd

816
00:44:37,880 --> 00:44:41,280
Speaker 1: and just forcing people's hand a little bit. I wish

817
00:44:41,320 --> 00:44:44,560
Speaker 1: I wish they were like that all the time. Yeah.

818
00:44:44,680 --> 00:44:47,360
Speaker 1: I I think about I know, I get free. I

819
00:44:47,360 --> 00:44:49,120
Speaker 1: think about the filibuster. I think about how the whole

820
00:44:49,760 --> 00:44:51,200
Speaker 1: I wish we could just take a look at it, like,

821
00:44:51,239 --> 00:44:56,240
Speaker 1: would we invent this today? Is it just already here?

822
00:44:56,560 --> 00:45:00,000
Speaker 1: Or we just want these guys with wooden teeth, ghosts

823
00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:02,759
Speaker 1: wooden teeth to tell us what we want from centuries ago.

824
00:45:02,880 --> 00:45:06,680
Speaker 1: If we came up with healthcare today and you walked

825
00:45:06,680 --> 00:45:10,359
Speaker 1: into the room and you said, Okay, first off, what's

826
00:45:10,400 --> 00:45:14,479
Speaker 1: your job? I know you want to go to the doctor.

827
00:45:14,520 --> 00:45:15,919
Speaker 1: I just have to know what you do for your job.

828
00:45:16,320 --> 00:45:19,200
Speaker 1: How long have you been there, how often do you work? Also,

829
00:45:19,520 --> 00:45:21,960
Speaker 1: your job is now at least part time dealing with

830
00:45:22,040 --> 00:45:26,440
Speaker 1: a health insurance company, right, and and how little your

831
00:45:26,520 --> 00:45:30,840
Speaker 1: job spends on you makes other people money? Um, okay,

832
00:45:30,840 --> 00:45:32,680
Speaker 1: so you guys are writing this all down, This healthcare

833
00:45:32,719 --> 00:45:34,680
Speaker 1: is gonna work. So you have to tell you your

834
00:45:34,719 --> 00:45:37,880
Speaker 1: doctor where you work. So a company can talk to

835
00:45:37,920 --> 00:45:42,000
Speaker 1: a company that way. If you've paid every month, you

836
00:45:42,040 --> 00:45:43,480
Speaker 1: can pay a little bit more and then if you

837
00:45:43,520 --> 00:45:48,279
Speaker 1: pay enough, you won't have to pay as much. If

838
00:45:48,280 --> 00:45:51,000
Speaker 1: your taxes are the same. Well, it's a good question though.

839
00:45:51,040 --> 00:45:55,560
Speaker 1: In the back, good question your taxes. We have thirty

840
00:45:55,560 --> 00:46:00,000
Speaker 1: helicopters that need to circle at water Village, so um,

841
00:46:00,080 --> 00:46:02,439
Speaker 1: we gotta keep those up. Or would someone just say

842
00:46:02,480 --> 00:46:07,200
Speaker 1: maybe taxes make people feel better? Mm hmm yeah. And

843
00:46:07,239 --> 00:46:08,880
Speaker 1: I think the same with the filibuster if you like,

844
00:46:09,040 --> 00:46:12,000
Speaker 1: if you're writing it all out now, what if one

845
00:46:12,040 --> 00:46:15,239
Speaker 1: guy is loud? I don't know, it's an episode of

846
00:46:15,280 --> 00:46:19,640
Speaker 1: smart Guy. This isn't what this is? Right, all right,

847
00:46:19,760 --> 00:46:21,919
Speaker 1: let's take a quick break. We'll come back and talk

848
00:46:21,960 --> 00:46:35,840
Speaker 1: about important stuff and we're back. So, guys, since since

849
00:46:35,880 --> 00:46:40,920
Speaker 1: you've been coming on Daily Zeitgeist, you've gone from having

850
00:46:41,719 --> 00:46:46,080
Speaker 1: a podcast that looked at Britney Spears Instagram and kind

851
00:46:46,120 --> 00:46:49,640
Speaker 1: of you guys suspected something was strange was going on,

852
00:46:50,120 --> 00:46:55,400
Speaker 1: to like basically starting the Free Brittany movement to like

853
00:46:55,480 --> 00:47:00,400
Speaker 1: being proven right and it becoming like this global movement.

854
00:47:01,080 --> 00:47:04,000
Speaker 1: Can you just talk a little bit about like sort

855
00:47:04,040 --> 00:47:07,200
Speaker 1: of the journey and where where you're at right now

856
00:47:07,400 --> 00:47:11,960
Speaker 1: in the process. Yeah, I mean, it's been a totally

857
00:47:11,960 --> 00:47:14,719
Speaker 1: wild ride. I was I've been trying to talk about

858
00:47:14,760 --> 00:47:16,720
Speaker 1: it on stage because it's like feels like I should,

859
00:47:16,800 --> 00:47:18,360
Speaker 1: but it's so hard to talk about because it's just

860
00:47:18,400 --> 00:47:21,640
Speaker 1: so complicated. And I was thinking, like, you know, people

861
00:47:21,640 --> 00:47:23,719
Speaker 1: always say like, man, if you could talk to your like,

862
00:47:24,000 --> 00:47:26,560
Speaker 1: you know, thirteen year old self and be like, look

863
00:47:26,600 --> 00:47:29,320
Speaker 1: what you did, You're you got, It's like my thirteenyear

864
00:47:29,320 --> 00:47:30,840
Speaker 1: old self would be like, what the funk are you

865
00:47:30,880 --> 00:47:34,759
Speaker 1: talking about? Like I don't even understand what you mean?

866
00:47:36,880 --> 00:47:41,200
Speaker 1: Social media conservatorship, Like one probate law, You're not getting

867
00:47:41,200 --> 00:47:44,880
Speaker 1: a mess with probate law. So yeah, it's just a

868
00:47:44,960 --> 00:47:49,879
Speaker 1: very surreal, you know experience. But basically, yeah, since we

869
00:47:50,440 --> 00:47:54,000
Speaker 1: you know, released an episode in April twenty nineteen when

870
00:47:54,040 --> 00:47:57,160
Speaker 1: we had gotten like a whistleblower voicemail saying that Brittany

871
00:47:57,200 --> 00:47:59,399
Speaker 1: was being held in a mental health facility against her will,

872
00:47:59,800 --> 00:48:02,560
Speaker 1: that was the episode we released that we called Free Brittany,

873
00:48:02,560 --> 00:48:06,120
Speaker 1: and that kind of started off, you know, that movement,

874
00:48:06,280 --> 00:48:11,239
Speaker 1: and then it snowballed into everything where the documentary came

875
00:48:11,239 --> 00:48:13,960
Speaker 1: out and then more people got on board, and then

876
00:48:14,080 --> 00:48:17,920
Speaker 1: Brittany actually spoke in court, which then you know, solidified

877
00:48:17,960 --> 00:48:20,879
Speaker 1: all of it. So yeah, it's been uh, it's been

878
00:48:20,920 --> 00:48:25,279
Speaker 1: a very crazy ride. But now we're just happy that

879
00:48:25,320 --> 00:48:27,880
Speaker 1: she spoke and that she's gotten it. You know, she

880
00:48:28,200 --> 00:48:31,520
Speaker 1: she had this really shitty, uh courter pointed attorney for

881
00:48:31,520 --> 00:48:34,399
Speaker 1: thirteen years who basically didn't do anything, didn't tell her

882
00:48:34,400 --> 00:48:36,760
Speaker 1: she could petition to get out of it, all this stuff.

883
00:48:37,360 --> 00:48:39,839
Speaker 1: So now she has this new attorney who hopefully will

884
00:48:39,880 --> 00:48:43,040
Speaker 1: be you know, the big changes she needed. And so

885
00:48:43,080 --> 00:48:45,400
Speaker 1: what's like the latest. I know, the last time I

886
00:48:45,400 --> 00:48:47,960
Speaker 1: think we probably spoke about it was when we heard

887
00:48:47,960 --> 00:48:51,080
Speaker 1: her speak and it was like, oh shit, okay, yep,

888
00:48:51,239 --> 00:48:53,200
Speaker 1: there there it is. And then I think the last

889
00:48:53,200 --> 00:48:55,720
Speaker 1: thing I read was that a judge sort of denied

890
00:48:55,760 --> 00:48:59,440
Speaker 1: to like expedite her hearing. I think, ye to have

891
00:48:59,560 --> 00:49:02,600
Speaker 1: Jamie removed in the conservatorship role, like where where are we?

892
00:49:02,719 --> 00:49:05,319
Speaker 1: What are yeah? So unfortunately Yeah, So I mean, I

893
00:49:05,320 --> 00:49:07,000
Speaker 1: mean I think if you paid attention at all to

894
00:49:07,080 --> 00:49:10,120
Speaker 1: what she said that she was outlining like clear cut abuse.

895
00:49:10,160 --> 00:49:13,319
Speaker 1: So it's a pretty emergent situation. So she got this

896
00:49:13,400 --> 00:49:15,719
Speaker 1: new lawyer whose petitioned to get rid of the dad,

897
00:49:15,800 --> 00:49:17,600
Speaker 1: which we think is probably a strategy. They have to

898
00:49:17,640 --> 00:49:20,560
Speaker 1: get rid of him first and then terminate the conservatorship

899
00:49:20,600 --> 00:49:22,759
Speaker 1: because while he's still on board, then he gets to

900
00:49:22,760 --> 00:49:24,640
Speaker 1: have his whole big team of lawyers helping him fight,

901
00:49:24,680 --> 00:49:26,799
Speaker 1: so you kind of get rid of him first. So

902
00:49:26,840 --> 00:49:29,279
Speaker 1: he petitioned to get rid of the dad. The mom

903
00:49:29,520 --> 00:49:32,000
Speaker 1: signed onto that petition, as did that the woman who's

904
00:49:32,160 --> 00:49:36,000
Speaker 1: Britney's professional conservator right now. But the judge denied that

905
00:49:36,040 --> 00:49:38,080
Speaker 1: petition to move forward with the hearing. And basically his

906
00:49:38,200 --> 00:49:40,279
Speaker 1: argument was like, look, yeah, my client feels like she's

907
00:49:40,320 --> 00:49:42,440
Speaker 1: being abused every day that this happens is a problem,

908
00:49:42,840 --> 00:49:44,719
Speaker 1: and it was totally within the judge's discretion to move

909
00:49:44,760 --> 00:49:47,279
Speaker 1: that up. And and she did nothing when she was

910
00:49:47,320 --> 00:49:52,200
Speaker 1: being held in a like they're just these moments where

911
00:49:52,239 --> 00:49:55,279
Speaker 1: in just reading about the story where it's like, oh,

912
00:49:55,320 --> 00:49:59,759
Speaker 1: this is like straight out of a like dystopian s

913
00:50:00,120 --> 00:50:03,799
Speaker 1: Fine novel, and like it's like the Handmaid's Tale, all

914
00:50:04,160 --> 00:50:09,319
Speaker 1: of that ship just wrapped up in in a massive reality.

915
00:50:09,840 --> 00:50:13,840
Speaker 1: Can you just talk about like how like when you

916
00:50:13,880 --> 00:50:16,680
Speaker 1: first found out about that, Like what what are the

917
00:50:16,760 --> 00:50:18,839
Speaker 1: kind of overall details because now you guys are doing

918
00:50:18,880 --> 00:50:22,680
Speaker 1: this one that's like a retrospective or sort of deep

919
00:50:22,719 --> 00:50:26,000
Speaker 1: dive into the whole situation, like what what are the

920
00:50:26,080 --> 00:50:29,040
Speaker 1: things that we're kind of the hardest to to wrap

921
00:50:29,080 --> 00:50:31,239
Speaker 1: your head around as you've just been going back through

922
00:50:31,239 --> 00:50:34,759
Speaker 1: the whole thing. So basically the Toxic the podcast we're

923
00:50:34,880 --> 00:50:37,960
Speaker 1: doing now, we go through we like, you know, her

924
00:50:38,000 --> 00:50:39,920
Speaker 1: early career and then just kind of like the first

925
00:50:39,920 --> 00:50:43,040
Speaker 1: early signs of them trying to control her or trying

926
00:50:43,080 --> 00:50:46,040
Speaker 1: to kind of yeah, control her, and then we go

927
00:50:46,120 --> 00:50:49,000
Speaker 1: up to the conservatorship and like the whole week weekend

928
00:50:49,040 --> 00:50:51,480
Speaker 1: at that went down and that she got conserved, and

929
00:50:51,520 --> 00:50:56,560
Speaker 1: just from day one it's been you know, unjust and illegal.

930
00:50:56,760 --> 00:50:59,200
Speaker 1: I think you know, they didn't get the capacity declaration

931
00:50:59,200 --> 00:51:01,759
Speaker 1: that you're supposed to have when you conserve somebody. They

932
00:51:01,880 --> 00:51:04,319
Speaker 1: planned it far in advance her fifty and fifty, which

933
00:51:04,360 --> 00:51:06,480
Speaker 1: is not how that's supposed to work, supposed to be

934
00:51:06,520 --> 00:51:12,040
Speaker 1: for emergency situations. Yeah, the l a p D was

935
00:51:12,080 --> 00:51:15,280
Speaker 1: planning a route to her house for days two days before,

936
00:51:15,480 --> 00:51:17,719
Speaker 1: like as if they were running a marathon. They put

937
00:51:17,760 --> 00:51:19,960
Speaker 1: up like barricades that were supposed to keep the paparazzi

938
00:51:19,960 --> 00:51:21,840
Speaker 1: out and they have like a whole route planned to

939
00:51:21,840 --> 00:51:24,279
Speaker 1: get to the hospital two days ahead of time. And

940
00:51:24,320 --> 00:51:27,000
Speaker 1: the conservatorship itself had been planned as early six weeks

941
00:51:27,000 --> 00:51:30,440
Speaker 1: before she got conserved, and just you know, there's a

942
00:51:30,480 --> 00:51:33,680
Speaker 1: different kinds of conservatorships, And if she was going through

943
00:51:33,719 --> 00:51:35,440
Speaker 1: some kind of mental health crisis at the time, they

944
00:51:35,480 --> 00:51:38,919
Speaker 1: could have put her into the mental health conservatorship, which

945
00:51:38,960 --> 00:51:41,360
Speaker 1: you renew every year because you're hoping the person gets better.

946
00:51:41,520 --> 00:51:43,719
Speaker 1: She was putting put into probit, which is basically a

947
00:51:43,760 --> 00:51:48,040
Speaker 1: lifetime one because of her money. So it's just like

948
00:51:48,160 --> 00:51:50,279
Speaker 1: thing after thing that immediately from the bat, you're like,

949
00:51:50,560 --> 00:51:52,880
Speaker 1: this is so insanely fucked up. And she tried to

950
00:51:52,880 --> 00:51:54,400
Speaker 1: get her own lawyer back then and they said she

951
00:51:54,400 --> 00:51:57,440
Speaker 1: didn't have the capacity. So she could have gotten out

952
00:51:57,480 --> 00:51:59,439
Speaker 1: a long time ago, she'd actually been able to hire

953
00:51:59,480 --> 00:52:01,839
Speaker 1: somebody you know, she wanted. Yeah, I think that's been

954
00:52:01,880 --> 00:52:04,239
Speaker 1: the biggest discovery for me, is just how much her

955
00:52:04,360 --> 00:52:06,319
Speaker 1: lawyer was to blame for all of this, because I

956
00:52:06,320 --> 00:52:08,680
Speaker 1: mean that she didn't have a chance without a lawyer

957
00:52:08,760 --> 00:52:12,279
Speaker 1: that was willing to help her. I mean, she has

958
00:52:12,360 --> 00:52:14,319
Speaker 1: she was expressing over and over again that she wanted

959
00:52:14,320 --> 00:52:15,960
Speaker 1: to get out of this, and the only lawyer that

960
00:52:16,000 --> 00:52:18,560
Speaker 1: she had access to was refusing to ask the court

961
00:52:18,600 --> 00:52:21,399
Speaker 1: to do that, and they made it so when when

962
00:52:21,400 --> 00:52:23,239
Speaker 1: she first got conserved and they had that hearing where

963
00:52:23,239 --> 00:52:24,759
Speaker 1: she tried to bring in her own lawyer back in

964
00:52:24,760 --> 00:52:27,279
Speaker 1: two thousand and eight, they stipulated as part of her

965
00:52:27,320 --> 00:52:30,680
Speaker 1: conservatorship that she wasn't allowed to meet with any other

966
00:52:30,760 --> 00:52:35,399
Speaker 1: lawyers without the permission of her dad. Yeah, I mean,

967
00:52:35,680 --> 00:52:39,080
Speaker 1: that's the six weeks before thing is like, it makes

968
00:52:39,080 --> 00:52:41,160
Speaker 1: it sound like it was all a conspiracy to like

969
00:52:41,480 --> 00:52:45,400
Speaker 1: drive her to behave in a way that would allow

970
00:52:45,480 --> 00:52:48,759
Speaker 1: them to, like in the media, seemed like she was

971
00:52:50,000 --> 00:52:54,640
Speaker 1: like needed them to take control. It seems like so complex.

972
00:52:54,680 --> 00:52:58,400
Speaker 1: And yeah, I think they definitely needed that narrative to

973
00:52:58,440 --> 00:53:00,960
Speaker 1: get her into it, you know, in the first place.

974
00:53:01,000 --> 00:53:04,439
Speaker 1: So yeah, and and and the episode we have coming

975
00:53:04,440 --> 00:53:07,400
Speaker 1: out next week, we'll kind of catalog the last thirteen

976
00:53:07,480 --> 00:53:10,640
Speaker 1: years and her attempts in the background to get out.

977
00:53:11,080 --> 00:53:14,080
Speaker 1: So I think that that's one of the biggest shocks.

978
00:53:14,480 --> 00:53:16,120
Speaker 1: I mean, and you know it obviously it makes sense

979
00:53:16,120 --> 00:53:18,400
Speaker 1: that she was trying to but just knowing she kept

980
00:53:18,560 --> 00:53:21,560
Speaker 1: trying over and over and over. Yeah, and that's that's

981
00:53:21,560 --> 00:53:24,360
Speaker 1: hard as a Britney Spears fan. She just have been

982
00:53:24,400 --> 00:53:26,560
Speaker 1: buying all these albums and going to all these shows

983
00:53:26,600 --> 00:53:28,799
Speaker 1: and then looking back and knowing in retrospect, oh my god,

984
00:53:28,800 --> 00:53:31,359
Speaker 1: that entire time she was like trying to claw her

985
00:53:31,400 --> 00:53:35,040
Speaker 1: way away, away out of this situation. Yeah, she was

986
00:53:35,120 --> 00:53:39,600
Speaker 1: like a prisoner, well being one of the most famous

987
00:53:39,600 --> 00:53:42,920
Speaker 1: people in the world, and still is. I mean, that's

988
00:53:42,960 --> 00:53:44,719
Speaker 1: the other thing is like, you know, everyone was still

989
00:53:44,719 --> 00:53:47,520
Speaker 1: alarmed by her testimony, but that's now been almost two

990
00:53:47,560 --> 00:53:50,480
Speaker 1: months ago and the same people are still empower over her.

991
00:53:50,560 --> 00:53:54,480
Speaker 1: The same people, I mean, her conservators can decide obviously

992
00:53:54,480 --> 00:53:57,239
Speaker 1: who visits her, they hire her security. Those same people

993
00:53:57,280 --> 00:53:58,799
Speaker 1: are still working for her. So that's the kind of

994
00:53:58,840 --> 00:54:01,880
Speaker 1: like really frustrating thing too, was like nothing really is

995
00:54:01,960 --> 00:54:03,799
Speaker 1: meaningfully changed for her except I guess she has her

996
00:54:03,800 --> 00:54:06,479
Speaker 1: own attorney now. But sure, and I mean, is it

997
00:54:06,520 --> 00:54:08,520
Speaker 1: is it? Does it seem feasible that even though this

998
00:54:08,640 --> 00:54:11,360
Speaker 1: motion to like sort of speed up the removal of

999
00:54:11,440 --> 00:54:14,839
Speaker 1: Jamie Spears has been denied, that it's still possible, like

1000
00:54:14,880 --> 00:54:18,239
Speaker 1: that it's on the right track or there's still a

1001
00:54:18,239 --> 00:54:21,040
Speaker 1: lot of other because it seems like their hell bent

1002
00:54:21,160 --> 00:54:23,520
Speaker 1: on keeping her in this conservatorship, So like, are they

1003
00:54:23,520 --> 00:54:26,120
Speaker 1: out of moves legally or is it seems like a

1004
00:54:26,160 --> 00:54:30,279
Speaker 1: more of a when than an if thing. I hope

1005
00:54:30,280 --> 00:54:33,759
Speaker 1: it's a win, yeah, without wildly legally speculated right, No,

1006
00:54:33,920 --> 00:54:36,640
Speaker 1: I obviously we don't know. But I think the problem

1007
00:54:36,719 --> 00:54:40,719
Speaker 1: now is that everyone is trying to shift the blame basically,

1008
00:54:41,000 --> 00:54:44,080
Speaker 1: so Jamie's trying to blame the professional conservator who's been

1009
00:54:44,080 --> 00:54:46,839
Speaker 1: around for a few years. They're trying to blame They're

1010
00:54:46,880 --> 00:54:50,400
Speaker 1: all just blaming each other so that no one gets sued.

1011
00:54:51,320 --> 00:54:54,120
Speaker 1: But you know, so that's the it's going to be

1012
00:54:54,160 --> 00:54:57,239
Speaker 1: a hard legal battle because everyone's trying to pretend it's

1013
00:54:57,280 --> 00:54:59,560
Speaker 1: not their fault, you know. Yeah, And if the dad

1014
00:54:59,560 --> 00:55:01,880
Speaker 1: gets doubt, then he's going to be liable for his

1015
00:55:01,920 --> 00:55:03,799
Speaker 1: own legal fees all of a sudden. So that's part

1016
00:55:03,800 --> 00:55:05,920
Speaker 1: of why he's cleaning on for deal. Dear life is

1017
00:55:05,960 --> 00:55:08,520
Speaker 1: as long as he says, the conservator of Brittany footstep bill.

1018
00:55:09,719 --> 00:55:11,799
Speaker 1: But one thing that makes me optimistic is that this

1019
00:55:11,840 --> 00:55:14,759
Speaker 1: new attorney is like very Hollywood like. He just has

1020
00:55:14,800 --> 00:55:17,320
Speaker 1: like a Hollywood swagger and he's very like he's represented

1021
00:55:17,360 --> 00:55:20,800
Speaker 1: Steven Spielberg. So I think that a he's gonna actually

1022
00:55:20,800 --> 00:55:23,319
Speaker 1: aggressively he already has been acting pretty aggressively and be

1023
00:55:23,440 --> 00:55:25,239
Speaker 1: like he's just gonna want to save face. Like this

1024
00:55:25,320 --> 00:55:27,560
Speaker 1: is a really high profile case and he has a

1025
00:55:27,600 --> 00:55:30,000
Speaker 1: reputation to a pole. So I just I do think

1026
00:55:30,040 --> 00:55:31,920
Speaker 1: he's going to fight tooth and nail, and the public

1027
00:55:31,960 --> 00:55:35,719
Speaker 1: opinion is at this point is just like, yeah, this

1028
00:55:35,800 --> 00:55:39,040
Speaker 1: is open and shut and get it done man, exactly.

1029
00:55:39,640 --> 00:55:42,839
Speaker 1: So I mean just kind of stepping back. The way,

1030
00:55:43,000 --> 00:55:45,560
Speaker 1: you guys is way into this in the first place

1031
00:55:45,760 --> 00:55:52,640
Speaker 1: was her Instagram and like feeling like she was sending

1032
00:55:52,680 --> 00:55:57,680
Speaker 1: messages or like whether you know, just through the circumstances

1033
00:55:57,680 --> 00:56:01,640
Speaker 1: you were seeing weird things like what what is you guys,

1034
00:56:01,760 --> 00:56:05,920
Speaker 1: is like feeling about her Instagram? Now, Like do you

1035
00:56:06,400 --> 00:56:11,000
Speaker 1: do you think that she was actually like sending messages

1036
00:56:11,120 --> 00:56:15,640
Speaker 1: through through the things that she was posting. I mean, yeah,

1037
00:56:15,680 --> 00:56:20,440
Speaker 1: the instagram has a lot of you know, questionable things

1038
00:56:20,480 --> 00:56:22,480
Speaker 1: about it as far as like people aren't sure if

1039
00:56:22,520 --> 00:56:26,719
Speaker 1: it's actually her posting because you know, there's been investigations

1040
00:56:26,719 --> 00:56:28,840
Speaker 1: that have come up like oh, it's other people who

1041
00:56:29,400 --> 00:56:32,759
Speaker 1: do post it and it gets sent through filters. It's

1042
00:56:32,800 --> 00:56:35,279
Speaker 1: not directly her, so there's a big question mark around it.

1043
00:56:35,320 --> 00:56:37,640
Speaker 1: When we were doing Brittany's Graham, we were just kind

1044
00:56:37,640 --> 00:56:40,920
Speaker 1: of taking it face value that it was her, And yeah,

1045
00:56:40,960 --> 00:56:43,239
Speaker 1: I think we started as a comedy podcast. It wasn't

1046
00:56:43,280 --> 00:56:45,520
Speaker 1: supposed to be like, let's dig in and see what

1047
00:56:45,560 --> 00:56:47,480
Speaker 1: she really means why these messages. It was more of

1048
00:56:47,560 --> 00:56:50,719
Speaker 1: just like a funny we're doing it, you know, with

1049
00:56:50,760 --> 00:56:52,880
Speaker 1: a sense of humor, digging into deep, but then then

1050
00:56:52,960 --> 00:56:55,800
Speaker 1: naturally turned into it, wait what does she mean? Because

1051
00:56:55,800 --> 00:56:58,759
Speaker 1: she we realized she's into under these weird you know,

1052
00:56:58,800 --> 00:57:01,440
Speaker 1: these constrictions, So what doesn't mean when she says let

1053
00:57:01,480 --> 00:57:03,400
Speaker 1: me shop and no one gets hurt? Like you know,

1054
00:57:03,560 --> 00:57:06,920
Speaker 1: So it kind of started as a funny look at it,

1055
00:57:06,960 --> 00:57:09,120
Speaker 1: but then got more serious and then as we looked

1056
00:57:09,120 --> 00:57:11,560
Speaker 1: at the actual court documents involved, it was like, whoa,

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Speaker 1: this seems really messed up. So yeah, it kind of

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Speaker 1: And so yeah, her her Instagram is a mystery. I mean, lately,

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Speaker 1: you know, it seems like it's her posting. She posted

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Speaker 1: there was a free Brittany flag that she posted and

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00:57:22,600 --> 00:57:25,520
Speaker 1: she called it my flag and she actually said the

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00:57:25,520 --> 00:57:29,600
Speaker 1: word conservatorship and Instagram post recently, so it seems like

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00:57:29,640 --> 00:57:32,960
Speaker 1: she's maybe communicating a little bit more directly with it now,

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00:57:33,240 --> 00:57:38,320
Speaker 1: but we're not sure. She definitely loves ice cream, yes, Yes,

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00:57:38,960 --> 00:57:41,080
Speaker 1: a lot of good food posts on pace ground. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: but yeah, I mean she also has like a long

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00:57:42,600 --> 00:57:44,680
Speaker 1: history of communicating to our fans. She used to write

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00:57:44,680 --> 00:57:46,560
Speaker 1: these things called her Letters of Truth. It's back like

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Speaker 1: in the early aughts where she would like get real

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Speaker 1: on her website about what was going on. And I think,

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Speaker 1: knowing how restrictive her life was, you know, throughout the

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Speaker 1: entire conservatorship, I don't think it's at all implausible that

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Speaker 1: she was using that one outlet as a way to

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Speaker 1: try to subtly pass messages onto people. I mean, she

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00:58:01,560 --> 00:58:03,160
Speaker 1: was doing crazier things than that to try to get

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00:58:03,200 --> 00:58:06,840
Speaker 1: her message out. So yeah, and yeah, I mean the

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Speaker 1: documentary that you guys are heavily featured and that that

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Speaker 1: didn't win a I don't, I don't know. It's an

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00:58:14,320 --> 00:58:17,479
Speaker 1: award winning and like just an amazing documentary of people

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Speaker 1: haven't seen it. It's called Framing Brittany by the New

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00:58:20,240 --> 00:58:25,200
Speaker 1: York Times, but it really makes you kind of recognized

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00:58:25,280 --> 00:58:28,920
Speaker 1: that just the sort of toxic masculinity that was like

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00:58:29,680 --> 00:58:33,400
Speaker 1: still is, but like especially during her rise to fame,

1084
00:58:33,520 --> 00:58:36,920
Speaker 1: was like built into the culture and her just being

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00:58:37,280 --> 00:58:41,120
Speaker 1: the center of all this attention, like she's been sort

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00:58:41,160 --> 00:58:45,960
Speaker 1: of imprisoned by that from from the start. And then yeah,

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00:58:46,440 --> 00:58:50,240
Speaker 1: it makes sense that she Yeah, it's really gross to

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00:58:50,360 --> 00:58:53,320
Speaker 1: just when you look back at that footage of her

1089
00:58:53,440 --> 00:58:57,080
Speaker 1: and the paparazzi and just like fifty men around her

1090
00:58:57,120 --> 00:59:02,440
Speaker 1: at all times, like trying to catch any little mistake anything. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and you know, there's one part where we talked about

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00:59:04,560 --> 00:59:07,840
Speaker 1: her her custody case was really intense. In her custody

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00:59:07,840 --> 00:59:10,000
Speaker 1: battle that was all going on in that area two

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Speaker 1: thousand seven, and you know, her her kaith had lawyers

1095
00:59:16,000 --> 00:59:19,240
Speaker 1: would say that she was, you know, have what was

1096
00:59:19,240 --> 00:59:20,920
Speaker 1: the test? Now, I'm going to mess it up. They

1097
00:59:20,920 --> 00:59:24,840
Speaker 1: would use the driving, Yeah, she would be. They used

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00:59:24,840 --> 00:59:27,080
Speaker 1: the fact that she was being hounded by the paparazzi

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00:59:27,200 --> 00:59:29,600
Speaker 1: as why she should have less custody. Like they faulted

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00:59:29,640 --> 00:59:32,800
Speaker 1: her for being followed by paparazzi, as if she had

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00:59:32,840 --> 00:59:36,640
Speaker 1: any kind of control over that. And then the paparazzi

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00:59:36,720 --> 00:59:39,680
Speaker 1: would like publish these really like learned stories and Kevin's

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00:59:39,760 --> 00:59:42,200
Speaker 1: lawyer would call in people from he would use the

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00:59:42,240 --> 00:59:44,920
Speaker 1: tabloids as a place to like find witnesses in the

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00:59:45,040 --> 00:59:48,560
Speaker 1: in the child custody case. Yeah. I mean, but by

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00:59:48,560 --> 00:59:51,800
Speaker 1: the end of just kind of that re examination and

1107
00:59:51,880 --> 00:59:54,960
Speaker 1: just like everything that you guys have kind of uncovered

1108
00:59:55,000 --> 00:59:59,200
Speaker 1: and examined it, it really starts to feel like she

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00:59:59,360 --> 01:00:06,200
Speaker 1: went saying like she did, finally, after like a lifetime

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Speaker 1: of just bearing this inhuman weight of like everybody's attention,

1111
01:00:12,240 --> 01:00:17,320
Speaker 1: all these like really unhealthy expectations, she finally reacted the

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Speaker 1: way that like I would have for like thirty minutes,

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Speaker 1: and people are like, all right, that's it, we gotta

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Speaker 1: see that. She said she always had. The expectations of

1115
01:00:30,640 --> 01:00:34,160
Speaker 1: her were always ridiculous, you know, the expectation of her

1116
01:00:34,200 --> 01:00:36,400
Speaker 1: to be perfect. And that's what someone of her fans

1117
01:00:36,400 --> 01:00:39,400
Speaker 1: loved about her was that she was not a perfect person.

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Speaker 1: She was you know, very raw and funny and just

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Speaker 1: like didn't give a shit about like where, you know,

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Speaker 1: wearing flip flops to the gas station or wherever, stuff

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Speaker 1: that they would like make fun of her for. And

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Speaker 1: it was also very classist and and that's what you know,

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Speaker 1: all all those expectations were just put on her and

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Speaker 1: she just kind of had enough of it. Yeah. Well, yeah,

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Speaker 1: and it's also I think about it this a lot too.

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Speaker 1: Like another big piece of this tragedy is like if

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01:01:02,600 --> 01:01:06,600
Speaker 1: she had just gotten famous, like two years later, Instagram

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01:01:06,640 --> 01:01:09,920
Speaker 1: would have been invented, you know, right, she might have

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Speaker 1: been able to have the outlet instead of getting stocked

1130
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Speaker 1: all the time. Yeah. Well, and like with social media,

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01:01:14,360 --> 01:01:16,920
Speaker 1: the paparazzi kind of stopped being the thing, like she

1132
01:01:17,120 --> 01:01:18,760
Speaker 1: was there kind of right at the tail end of

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01:01:18,800 --> 01:01:21,800
Speaker 1: the paparazzi being this really like aggressive force. Well and

1134
01:01:21,800 --> 01:01:25,600
Speaker 1: they had to stop because they laws were enforced, you know,

1135
01:01:25,680 --> 01:01:27,920
Speaker 1: they couldn't do that anymore because of how they treated her.

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01:01:27,960 --> 01:01:33,720
Speaker 1: And yeah, so it's just it's a really sad I mean,

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Speaker 1: I'm I'm so grateful that there's like finally like the

1138
01:01:37,080 --> 01:01:39,160
Speaker 1: end of the tunnel for her, because when we started

1139
01:01:39,160 --> 01:01:40,920
Speaker 1: making it, we had no idea she was going to speak.

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Speaker 1: You know, we just thought it was gonna be business

1141
01:01:42,840 --> 01:01:45,120
Speaker 1: as usual and she was going to be stuck with

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01:01:45,160 --> 01:01:47,560
Speaker 1: this lawyer forever and all that stuff, so that when

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Speaker 1: she spoke, it was a shock to us. We had

1144
01:01:49,320 --> 01:01:51,520
Speaker 1: no idea that was going to happen, and it's really

1145
01:01:51,600 --> 01:01:53,880
Speaker 1: changed the game. So we're just hopeful that yeah, she

1146
01:01:54,000 --> 01:01:57,360
Speaker 1: she has a way out now. Well, that's awesome. Keep

1147
01:01:57,400 --> 01:02:00,160
Speaker 1: doing the amazing work you guys have been doing, and

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01:02:00,240 --> 01:02:02,880
Speaker 1: thank you for for doing all that work. It's really

1149
01:02:03,760 --> 01:02:07,480
Speaker 1: cool and important. And yeah, thanks for being on t

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Speaker 1: dasy today guys enough to join. Yeah, all right, that's

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Speaker 1: gonna do it for this week's weekly zeite. Guys, please

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Speaker 1: like and review the show. If you like the show,

1153
01:02:21,360 --> 01:02:25,760
Speaker 1: uh means the world to Miles. He needs your validation, folks.

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Speaker 1: I hope you're having a great weekend and I will

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Speaker 1: talk to him Monday. By