1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:01,640 Speaker 1: Let me ask you this one before I let you 2 00:00:01,680 --> 00:00:03,680 Speaker 1: get up out of here, because I was I was 3 00:00:03,760 --> 00:00:05,840 Speaker 1: pulling for you big time when you went in as 4 00:00:05,840 --> 00:00:07,080 Speaker 1: the as the inn room. 5 00:00:07,120 --> 00:00:07,760 Speaker 2: What was it like? 6 00:00:07,960 --> 00:00:10,319 Speaker 3: So basically Jim was like, listen, we don't have any 7 00:00:10,440 --> 00:00:12,240 Speaker 3: like see the only season coach they had was the 8 00:00:12,280 --> 00:00:15,640 Speaker 3: offensive line coach who had been there with Frank. But 9 00:00:15,640 --> 00:00:17,280 Speaker 3: but he was like, Hey, I'm gonna bring you injuries 10 00:00:17,320 --> 00:00:20,840 Speaker 3: for these eight weeks. And and the toughest part for me. 11 00:00:21,079 --> 00:00:29,920 Speaker 1: Was you got Jeff Saturday here. You're here for for 12 00:00:30,000 --> 00:00:36,360 Speaker 1: a great reason. Yeah, obviously the NFL supporting an initiative 13 00:00:36,440 --> 00:00:38,560 Speaker 1: starting initiative for our health. 14 00:00:38,760 --> 00:00:40,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, and our way. Talk to me about it. 15 00:00:41,000 --> 00:00:44,120 Speaker 3: Yes, the NFL alumni is on three it's weight Health Hike, 16 00:00:44,479 --> 00:00:47,520 Speaker 3: and you can go to NFL a on on three 17 00:00:47,600 --> 00:00:51,720 Speaker 3: dot org nfl a uh three dot org. But I 18 00:00:51,760 --> 00:00:53,880 Speaker 3: would say this, and you, you and I both know this, right, 19 00:00:53,920 --> 00:00:57,040 Speaker 3: coming from the situation where most of us had to 20 00:00:57,840 --> 00:01:01,280 Speaker 3: eat and overeat to keep our bodies fueled as the 21 00:01:01,320 --> 00:01:03,880 Speaker 3: machine we wanted to right and then we hit this 22 00:01:04,240 --> 00:01:07,520 Speaker 3: immediate stop and most of us don't have a choice. 23 00:01:07,560 --> 00:01:10,119 Speaker 3: When that stop happens, you try to train to keep 24 00:01:10,160 --> 00:01:12,600 Speaker 3: around or stay around, right, And so your body goes 25 00:01:12,600 --> 00:01:15,200 Speaker 3: through other changes, and then as we naturally age, and 26 00:01:15,200 --> 00:01:17,640 Speaker 3: then and then and then you look around and years 27 00:01:17,640 --> 00:01:19,640 Speaker 3: down the road, man, we got an a b CD problem, right. 28 00:01:19,640 --> 00:01:22,120 Speaker 3: We got guys who can't get healthy and can't get right. 29 00:01:22,480 --> 00:01:24,640 Speaker 3: Joints start to fail because you're putting this amount of 30 00:01:24,680 --> 00:01:28,120 Speaker 3: weight on your body. And so I've lost about about 31 00:01:28,120 --> 00:01:32,319 Speaker 3: fifty plus pounds since I retired, feel great and just 32 00:01:32,440 --> 00:01:35,520 Speaker 3: encouraging people listening, Get people around you, get a team 33 00:01:35,560 --> 00:01:38,240 Speaker 3: around you that can help you, get your dock involved, 34 00:01:38,480 --> 00:01:40,760 Speaker 3: make sure you're doing the things that help your your 35 00:01:40,800 --> 00:01:43,200 Speaker 3: weight and your and whatever whatever you want to do, 36 00:01:43,240 --> 00:01:45,720 Speaker 3: whatever your goals are, get a plan in place. And 37 00:01:45,760 --> 00:01:47,360 Speaker 3: I think that was the greatest thing for my wife 38 00:01:47,400 --> 00:01:49,720 Speaker 3: as a physical therapist. And Karen was like when I 39 00:01:49,800 --> 00:01:53,200 Speaker 3: decided to retire, She's like, here's the lane, right, And 40 00:01:53,240 --> 00:01:54,120 Speaker 3: I just followed the lane. 41 00:01:54,120 --> 00:01:54,280 Speaker 4: Man. 42 00:01:54,320 --> 00:01:56,160 Speaker 3: And for a guy who've been coached my whole life, 43 00:01:56,160 --> 00:01:58,640 Speaker 3: I was like, I can do this right, But thank God, 44 00:01:58,560 --> 00:02:00,840 Speaker 3: I had to create the plan. And that's that's why 45 00:02:00,880 --> 00:02:02,880 Speaker 3: I think it's so important to get with programs like 46 00:02:02,960 --> 00:02:04,640 Speaker 3: this and with with your doc and come together with 47 00:02:04,680 --> 00:02:05,120 Speaker 3: a strong man. 48 00:02:05,160 --> 00:02:07,320 Speaker 2: Make sure make sure you give them the website one 49 00:02:07,400 --> 00:02:07,800 Speaker 2: more time. 50 00:02:08,000 --> 00:02:11,919 Speaker 3: It's nfl A on three dot org, nfl A on 51 00:02:12,040 --> 00:02:13,000 Speaker 3: three dot org. 52 00:02:13,720 --> 00:02:15,560 Speaker 4: Yeah, weaight, healthon hike, let's get it going. 53 00:02:15,840 --> 00:02:16,160 Speaker 2: Love that. 54 00:02:16,520 --> 00:02:17,959 Speaker 1: Let me ask you this one before I let you 55 00:02:18,000 --> 00:02:20,000 Speaker 1: get up out of here, because I was I was 56 00:02:20,080 --> 00:02:22,160 Speaker 1: pooling for you big time when you went in as 57 00:02:22,160 --> 00:02:23,200 Speaker 1: the as the inter room. 58 00:02:25,000 --> 00:02:25,680 Speaker 2: What was it like? 59 00:02:26,000 --> 00:02:29,919 Speaker 1: Because I mean, everybody had their their different opinions about it, this, 60 00:02:29,960 --> 00:02:32,200 Speaker 1: that and the other, and you came in and you 61 00:02:32,240 --> 00:02:35,079 Speaker 1: took over and in a moment of time where they 62 00:02:35,200 --> 00:02:38,000 Speaker 1: needed somebody to do it, and you did it. 63 00:02:38,400 --> 00:02:39,520 Speaker 2: You got the first one. 64 00:02:39,680 --> 00:02:42,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, Like I was like all over the place, like 65 00:02:43,000 --> 00:02:45,839 Speaker 1: my producer tell you, Like, I was like, I was like, yeah, 66 00:02:45,880 --> 00:02:47,200 Speaker 1: come on, let's go, let's go. 67 00:02:48,160 --> 00:02:49,200 Speaker 2: What was it like? Man? 68 00:02:49,240 --> 00:02:52,600 Speaker 1: Because there there's the elements of it that people could 69 00:02:52,639 --> 00:02:53,280 Speaker 1: think they know. 70 00:02:53,639 --> 00:02:56,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, but unless you. 71 00:02:55,919 --> 00:02:58,960 Speaker 1: Live it and you experience it, it's it's very very 72 00:02:59,000 --> 00:03:02,360 Speaker 1: difficult to comp three hand what the task is and 73 00:03:02,400 --> 00:03:06,320 Speaker 1: how daunting the task is for for a head coaching 74 00:03:06,400 --> 00:03:07,800 Speaker 1: job at the league level. 75 00:03:07,919 --> 00:03:10,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, so I would say it was it was chaos 76 00:03:11,000 --> 00:03:13,680 Speaker 3: like at its highest level. Right, And I told Jim, 77 00:03:13,960 --> 00:03:15,680 Speaker 3: you know, he calls me at midnight, bro, and you 78 00:03:15,680 --> 00:03:18,360 Speaker 3: know this thing is gonna happen. And so I literally 79 00:03:18,360 --> 00:03:20,480 Speaker 3: tized him, we're gonna go in eight like make no mistake, 80 00:03:20,480 --> 00:03:22,160 Speaker 3: Broy wi win it like you just let the best 81 00:03:22,200 --> 00:03:24,720 Speaker 3: coach out the door, being Frank like he because he 82 00:03:24,760 --> 00:03:27,240 Speaker 3: had called his plays. They had fired the offensive coordinator 83 00:03:27,280 --> 00:03:30,720 Speaker 3: Marcus the week before, and so there's four coaches basically 84 00:03:30,720 --> 00:03:33,160 Speaker 3: on the offensive staff, right, and and and Reggie was 85 00:03:33,160 --> 00:03:36,080 Speaker 3: brand new at receiver. He hadn't been in any play 86 00:03:36,440 --> 00:03:39,240 Speaker 3: game plan meetings yet. So you know when we walk 87 00:03:39,320 --> 00:03:41,800 Speaker 3: in there was there was and and and on the 88 00:03:41,840 --> 00:03:43,440 Speaker 3: defensive side, Gus was brand new. 89 00:03:43,480 --> 00:03:44,440 Speaker 4: That was their first year. 90 00:03:44,760 --> 00:03:47,040 Speaker 3: And so basically Jim was like, listen, we don't have 91 00:03:47,120 --> 00:03:49,120 Speaker 3: any like see, the only season coach they had was 92 00:03:49,160 --> 00:03:52,080 Speaker 3: the offensive line coach who had been there with Frank. 93 00:03:52,400 --> 00:03:53,960 Speaker 3: But but he was like, hey, I'm gonna bring you 94 00:03:54,000 --> 00:03:57,440 Speaker 3: Injurwes for these eight weeks. And and the toughest part 95 00:03:57,480 --> 00:04:00,360 Speaker 3: for me was you don't have any real say in 96 00:04:01,720 --> 00:04:04,520 Speaker 3: your coaches, and so you're trying to build relationship with 97 00:04:04,560 --> 00:04:07,200 Speaker 3: well exists, yeah that are already there. And they know 98 00:04:07,200 --> 00:04:10,520 Speaker 3: they're gonna lose guy. Yeah, and they know right, yeah, 99 00:04:10,600 --> 00:04:12,960 Speaker 3: so challenge yeah yeah, and so and and they were 100 00:04:13,080 --> 00:04:14,920 Speaker 3: very respectful and I was respected. I told them they 101 00:04:15,000 --> 00:04:16,800 Speaker 3: all know more than me. I'm not like, I'm not 102 00:04:16,880 --> 00:04:18,920 Speaker 3: even trying to pretend, right. I was like, listen, whatever 103 00:04:18,960 --> 00:04:20,560 Speaker 3: I can do to help you be the best coach, 104 00:04:20,880 --> 00:04:24,159 Speaker 3: that's my job. But we you know, we gave Parks 105 00:04:24,320 --> 00:04:27,560 Speaker 3: became our offensive coordinator and he was an assistant quarterback 106 00:04:27,640 --> 00:04:29,520 Speaker 3: coach and that was but you know, the general manager 107 00:04:29,600 --> 00:04:31,919 Speaker 3: didn't want you know, the guys that I thought should 108 00:04:31,920 --> 00:04:34,240 Speaker 3: get it. He had a different He had a different 109 00:04:34,400 --> 00:04:36,200 Speaker 3: reason for want to do whatever he wanted to do. 110 00:04:36,640 --> 00:04:38,880 Speaker 3: That's the that's the part no one sees right and 111 00:04:39,000 --> 00:04:40,960 Speaker 3: you have no you know, they know I ain't gonna 112 00:04:40,960 --> 00:04:43,120 Speaker 3: stick around, right like I'm in and out and and 113 00:04:43,400 --> 00:04:45,520 Speaker 3: uh and so you have to build for the organization 114 00:04:45,640 --> 00:04:45,960 Speaker 3: you win. 115 00:04:46,040 --> 00:04:48,240 Speaker 1: You might not be in and out like you look 116 00:04:48,279 --> 00:04:50,360 Speaker 1: at And the reason why I asked you is you 117 00:04:50,520 --> 00:04:53,520 Speaker 1: had these year one coaches, you know Ryo, you know 118 00:04:53,920 --> 00:04:58,480 Speaker 1: at Pierce. These guys were, but they didn't have all 119 00:04:58,560 --> 00:05:01,400 Speaker 1: of the elements in play for them to have the success. 120 00:05:01,480 --> 00:05:01,880 Speaker 2: That's right. 121 00:05:01,960 --> 00:05:04,240 Speaker 1: So to get your dvantage point of it and to 122 00:05:04,360 --> 00:05:07,560 Speaker 1: hear it that way. There are so many different things 123 00:05:07,600 --> 00:05:10,200 Speaker 1: that could go towards being successful for. 124 00:05:10,279 --> 00:05:13,440 Speaker 2: Sure if you just had the opportunity to make the decisions. 125 00:05:13,480 --> 00:05:14,160 Speaker 2: So that's right. 126 00:05:14,279 --> 00:05:17,480 Speaker 1: It's great perspective because in my mind it's like I 127 00:05:17,600 --> 00:05:19,800 Speaker 1: was a head coach, high school head coach. Yeah, and 128 00:05:20,720 --> 00:05:24,200 Speaker 1: and even at the high school level, like I coached 129 00:05:24,240 --> 00:05:25,039 Speaker 1: at private school. 130 00:05:25,160 --> 00:05:25,360 Speaker 4: Yeah. 131 00:05:25,960 --> 00:05:28,760 Speaker 1: And the amount of politics and the amount of things 132 00:05:28,800 --> 00:05:31,320 Speaker 1: that go into being able to get what you need 133 00:05:32,000 --> 00:05:33,800 Speaker 1: do what you need to do, and how to do it. 134 00:05:34,120 --> 00:05:36,560 Speaker 1: There's so many things that are so far out of 135 00:05:36,600 --> 00:05:40,279 Speaker 1: your control and it just comes down to, Okay, basically, 136 00:05:40,440 --> 00:05:41,359 Speaker 1: what you want me to do. 137 00:05:41,560 --> 00:05:43,960 Speaker 2: Is just coach, that's right, Just coach. Yeah. 138 00:05:44,000 --> 00:05:48,680 Speaker 4: Yeah, So that's like, that's it's your your favorite My favorite. 139 00:05:48,279 --> 00:05:50,560 Speaker 3: Hours were the two that were on the grass, right, 140 00:05:50,720 --> 00:05:53,880 Speaker 3: And then everything else becomes a management. You know, you're 141 00:05:53,880 --> 00:05:55,800 Speaker 3: trying to you're trying to talk people off the wall, 142 00:05:55,920 --> 00:05:57,880 Speaker 3: right because they got things right and they got life. Man, 143 00:05:57,920 --> 00:06:00,360 Speaker 3: they're trying to find new jobs because again they all 144 00:06:00,440 --> 00:06:02,520 Speaker 3: know this thing, this chapter is ending it right, right, 145 00:06:02,640 --> 00:06:04,880 Speaker 3: and so and I told all those guys, man, they 146 00:06:04,920 --> 00:06:08,200 Speaker 3: were all extremely respectful, and I was as well, making sure. 147 00:06:08,279 --> 00:06:10,760 Speaker 4: But from the I hated what happened to Mayo. 148 00:06:10,760 --> 00:06:13,200 Speaker 3: I hated what happened to ap because the reality is 149 00:06:13,800 --> 00:06:16,799 Speaker 3: you you don't have until you can put your pieces 150 00:06:16,880 --> 00:06:18,640 Speaker 3: in place. And you know who was a great was 151 00:06:18,880 --> 00:06:21,800 Speaker 3: called Dan Campbell and uh because because we were playing 152 00:06:21,839 --> 00:06:24,320 Speaker 3: like a similar opponent or something, and I know Hank 153 00:06:24,360 --> 00:06:26,280 Speaker 3: who was their all O line coaches. So I called 154 00:06:26,560 --> 00:06:29,360 Speaker 3: and Dan was like, Saturday, we won three games my 155 00:06:29,480 --> 00:06:31,840 Speaker 3: first year, Bro, you know, we we lost and they 156 00:06:31,880 --> 00:06:33,320 Speaker 3: had just this was kind of the year that I 157 00:06:33,360 --> 00:06:35,080 Speaker 3: think they won nine games, so they had kind of 158 00:06:35,160 --> 00:06:37,480 Speaker 3: won a little bit and then lost. And he was like, man, 159 00:06:37,560 --> 00:06:38,720 Speaker 3: then all of a sudden, we go on a four 160 00:06:38,760 --> 00:06:41,400 Speaker 3: game streak and everybody thinks, I'm, you know, the best 161 00:06:41,440 --> 00:06:43,440 Speaker 3: coach in the world. He's like, it is a fickle, 162 00:06:43,600 --> 00:06:46,760 Speaker 3: but it takes time to put your your pieces and 163 00:06:46,880 --> 00:06:49,440 Speaker 3: parts in place. And again, think about him, man, he 164 00:06:49,520 --> 00:06:52,800 Speaker 3: got he got golf brought on after and so it 165 00:06:52,920 --> 00:06:55,120 Speaker 3: takes time. Like all these people who think it's instant, 166 00:06:55,200 --> 00:06:57,480 Speaker 3: it is not instant unless you're going to a team 167 00:06:57,520 --> 00:07:00,200 Speaker 3: that's already already loaded it. 168 00:07:00,279 --> 00:07:01,520 Speaker 2: Generally, how does that work. 169 00:07:01,600 --> 00:07:01,960 Speaker 4: That's right. 170 00:07:02,040 --> 00:07:02,760 Speaker 2: It doesn't work out. 171 00:07:02,880 --> 00:07:03,240 Speaker 4: It does not. 172 00:07:03,480 --> 00:07:03,840 Speaker 1: It is not. 173 00:07:04,040 --> 00:07:06,400 Speaker 4: And so no, I'm with you, dude, it is. I 174 00:07:06,520 --> 00:07:07,479 Speaker 4: love the experience. 175 00:07:07,560 --> 00:07:10,680 Speaker 3: I appreciated it, but I realized CHIP stacked against and 176 00:07:10,760 --> 00:07:13,840 Speaker 3: then the whole fan thing, bro, like you know, and 177 00:07:14,200 --> 00:07:15,960 Speaker 3: like even the guys I work with right like they're 178 00:07:16,000 --> 00:07:17,560 Speaker 3: coming And I looked at all of them. I was like, 179 00:07:17,600 --> 00:07:19,360 Speaker 3: every one of you to take in the job, like 180 00:07:19,440 --> 00:07:21,559 Speaker 3: y'all such hypocrites, bro, Like you get up here acting 181 00:07:21,600 --> 00:07:23,600 Speaker 3: like you've beating your chest. Bro, you the freaking takeing 182 00:07:23,880 --> 00:07:26,960 Speaker 3: tig in a minute. It's fifty fifty fifty to fifty 183 00:07:27,280 --> 00:07:29,720 Speaker 3: ratio here, sure, bro, I can when I could lose, 184 00:07:29,800 --> 00:07:32,080 Speaker 3: that's just fifty to fifty. I'm gonna give it a go. Amen, 185 00:07:32,200 --> 00:07:32,920 Speaker 3: we're competitive. 186 00:07:32,920 --> 00:07:33,240 Speaker 4: Amen. 187 00:07:33,440 --> 00:07:35,080 Speaker 2: I would have took it, no doubt. I would have 188 00:07:35,120 --> 00:07:35,320 Speaker 2: did it. 189 00:07:35,440 --> 00:07:35,920 Speaker 4: And I got no. 190 00:07:36,040 --> 00:07:38,200 Speaker 3: I got like I had no issue with what anybody 191 00:07:38,280 --> 00:07:39,840 Speaker 3: thought about me. I was like, dude, I didn't call 192 00:07:39,920 --> 00:07:42,480 Speaker 3: you to ask your opinion, right right, I will. I 193 00:07:42,680 --> 00:07:44,280 Speaker 3: was like, go in, yeah, we're gonna go do it. 194 00:07:44,400 --> 00:07:47,240 Speaker 1: You're respected enough to get the opportunity, that's right, hey, man, 195 00:07:47,600 --> 00:07:49,600 Speaker 1: give them the oh here we go. Give them the 196 00:07:49,920 --> 00:07:52,680 Speaker 1: website again. Make sure you're looking at this from the 197 00:07:52,920 --> 00:07:57,040 Speaker 1: proper perspective. People, your health, your weight, all those things. 198 00:07:57,120 --> 00:07:58,320 Speaker 1: Make sure you're addressing them. 199 00:07:58,440 --> 00:07:58,680 Speaker 2: You can go. 200 00:07:59,000 --> 00:07:59,280 Speaker 4: That's right. 201 00:07:59,360 --> 00:08:04,360 Speaker 3: It's NFL on three dot org, NFLA on three dot org. Again, 202 00:08:04,440 --> 00:08:07,360 Speaker 3: it's it's the weight Help and Hike program. It's about 203 00:08:07,400 --> 00:08:09,800 Speaker 3: getting your help in check, getting the right people, the 204 00:08:09,880 --> 00:08:12,440 Speaker 3: right team around you, setting a plan in place that 205 00:08:12,560 --> 00:08:15,960 Speaker 3: you can execute and listen. It don't happen overnight. It 206 00:08:16,120 --> 00:08:19,280 Speaker 3: is a consistent it's a consistent plan that you execute 207 00:08:19,320 --> 00:08:21,320 Speaker 3: that will lead to success. So I encourage everybody to 208 00:08:21,400 --> 00:08:23,040 Speaker 3: jump on it and make the most of it. 209 00:08:23,320 --> 00:08:23,800 Speaker 2: You're the man. 210 00:08:23,840 --> 00:08:24,920 Speaker 4: Appreciate you brothers. 211 00:08:25,160 --> 00:08:27,880 Speaker 1: Saturday back at you, bro, all love, all respect and 212 00:08:28,080 --> 00:08:28,960 Speaker 1: all the luck too. 213 00:08:29,320 --> 00:08:32,000 Speaker 2: My god Je Saturday. Hey, you can check him out. 214 00:08:32,240 --> 00:08:34,920 Speaker 1: He is one of the dopest analysts in the game, 215 00:08:34,960 --> 00:08:37,920 Speaker 1: as you can tell by the analysis he just so. 216 00:08:38,360 --> 00:08:41,640 Speaker 1: This is conversations with a legend. I'm LeVar Harrington's Fox 217 00:08:41,679 --> 00:08:43,839 Speaker 1: Sports Radio. Yeah, we'll check you out.