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Speaker 2: It's spooky, Joky, I'm really sure it's dead. It's coming

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Speaker 1: As nandaz Plase.

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Speaker 2: Hey boo, it's me Roz and welcome to Ghosted by

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Speaker 2: Roz Hernandez, the podcast where I talk to people that

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Speaker 2: I like about the paranormal. I got to talk to

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Speaker 2: my dear old friend James Odomian, who is such a

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Speaker 2: hilarious comedian, an incredible performer, and he is an impressionist

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Speaker 2: And whether you realize it or not, you've definitely heard

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Speaker 2: his voice in different you know, cartoons, and he's he's

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Speaker 2: always on Jimmy Kimmel doing impressions, and he's been doing

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Speaker 2: these impressions for years, and he finally now has his

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Speaker 2: first special out, which you can watch on YouTube. He'll

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Speaker 2: tell you about that. So I'm so happy to talk

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Speaker 2: to him. Turns out he also has a great ghost

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Speaker 2: story and we hear some of his famous impressions, so

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Speaker 2: that'll be coming at you soon. Let me read you

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Speaker 2: a ghost story real quick. This one came to my

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Speaker 2: email from Sammy and Sammy is writing from the United Kingdom.

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Speaker 2: Sammy writes, my father was a priest interesting and for

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Speaker 2: a while we lived in a vicarage in Pentton, Devon, Okay.

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Speaker 2: This all sounds very haunted. The local kids all knew

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Speaker 2: our house as the Haunted house, and it seems they

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Speaker 2: were right. When we moved in, the hallway light would flicker.

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Speaker 2: My parents chalked this up to faulty wiring and called

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Speaker 2: flickered when we moved out nine years later. The dogs

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Speaker 2: used to growl at empty corners, the cats would hiss

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Speaker 2: all the upstairs windows were open. One Christmas, my parents

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Speaker 2: dad's Bibles flew out of the bookcases to my right

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Speaker 2: Of the Book of Revelations. My dad never believed it

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Speaker 2: be there. Sammy, Oh my god, thank you Sammy. I

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Speaker 2: love I love British ghost stories. One of these days

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Speaker 2: I'm going to get out there. I really am just

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Speaker 2: dying to go to England and I want to go

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Speaker 2: One of these days is let's manifest that maybe for

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Speaker 2: this new year that's about to happen. I am going

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Speaker 2: to be doing some shows very soon. I am about

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Speaker 2: to be in New York City at Littlefield in Brooklyn.

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Speaker 2: I'm doing Ghosted Live. That's the eighth Sunday, and then

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Speaker 2: I'm going to go to Helium in Portland on the

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Speaker 2: eleventh Wednesday, and Seattle. I'm going to be at the

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Speaker 2: hereafter on the thirteenth doing Ghosted Live and stand up

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Speaker 2: that night. So get everything at linktree dot com, slash

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Speaker 2: roz Hernandez. Okay, let's talk to James Adomian and the

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Speaker 2: many voices that go with him and with the show.

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Speaker 2: Oh my god, we have a real voice over professional

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Speaker 2: A recording a recording artist. I'm gonna say, James Adomian.

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Speaker 1: Thank you, Oz. It's great to be here.

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Speaker 2: You've already explained to us how microphones work.

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Speaker 1: I admire your sure sm seven B. It's a good microphone.

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Speaker 2: Thank you. That's exactly right. Studios for you, they get

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Speaker 2: the best of the best. Well, you do a lot

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Speaker 1: That, and a lot of them here in Bourbonk. It's

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Speaker 2: part of Burbank is that there's what I call chicken

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Speaker 2: Ammo got Burbank. So, James, I'm so excited you came

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Speaker 2: I've never heard your ghost stories, but I hear that

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Speaker 2: Do you believe?

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Speaker 1: So I don't believe, and yet I do.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. I always try to search for an explanation that,

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Speaker 2: And yeah, that's why your house was shaking.

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Speaker 2: But there's also a thing where it's like ignorance is bliss,

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Speaker 1: To be fair, ignorance in your case is terror. Yes,

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Speaker 2: Is this Vincent Price?

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Speaker 1: How could I resist?

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Speaker 2: I love Vincent Price? I want his cookbook.

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Speaker 1: I have one, he has several h it's one of

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Speaker 2: Well he also do you know about his Witchcraft album?

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Speaker 1: I've heard an album of his, but I don't think

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Speaker 2: We won't be able to play it. But there is

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Speaker 2: Magic an Adventure in Demonology.

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Speaker 2: And there are excerpts that you can hear online of

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Speaker 2: him explaining demonology. It's from nineteen sixty nine. It's so cool,

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Speaker 2: oh my god. And it has like the track listing.

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Speaker 2: Here's track number two, Preparation for.

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Speaker 1: Magic, Preparation for Magic, side to.

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Speaker 1: I love it.

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Speaker 2: How to Communicate with the Spirits Yep, Gerald York and necromancy.

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Speaker 1: Oh my god, I skipped the head too far.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you're not off, which I kind of relate to

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Speaker 1: One of the jokes I made in the early days

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Speaker 1: Well, This was a house that had been lived in

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Speaker 1: I think it's because they didn't. They hadn't invented like

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and I didn't. It didn't seem malicious. It seemed

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Speaker 1: there was one in particular. I used to hang out

438
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Speaker 1: it a lot. The cook in the Cave in New

439
00:24:10,359 --> 00:24:14,320
Speaker 1: York and other places where I know that where there's

440
00:24:14,320 --> 00:24:16,199
Speaker 1: a story that there's a spirit, you know, whether I

441
00:24:16,240 --> 00:24:18,359
Speaker 1: see it or not. Sometimes I'll just be like, hey,

442
00:24:18,520 --> 00:24:19,119
Speaker 1: how you doing?

443
00:24:19,680 --> 00:24:20,600
Speaker 2: Or give it whiskey.

444
00:24:21,520 --> 00:24:23,240
Speaker 1: You know it's expensive. You don't want to just be wasting.

445
00:24:23,560 --> 00:24:26,080
Speaker 2: You can't just give whiskey. Yeah, it's like it's not

446
00:24:26,200 --> 00:24:27,640
Speaker 2: Santa with milk and cookies.

447
00:24:27,760 --> 00:24:29,679
Speaker 1: Also, some of the some of the ghosts are like,

448
00:24:29,760 --> 00:24:31,800
Speaker 1: thank you, I've had too much over the centuries.

449
00:24:31,920 --> 00:24:36,960
Speaker 2: Yes, So of those other people that lived there when

450
00:24:37,000 --> 00:24:39,320
Speaker 2: you lived there, did they ever have stories?

451
00:24:39,440 --> 00:24:41,280
Speaker 1: I don't think so. I'd have to consult them one

452
00:24:41,320 --> 00:24:42,919
Speaker 1: by one to interrogate them about.

453
00:24:43,160 --> 00:24:46,119
Speaker 2: But it wasn't a well known like we all know

454
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Speaker 2: there's the ghost in the living room.

455
00:24:47,680 --> 00:24:50,040
Speaker 1: No, but there I guess there were people who had

456
00:24:50,040 --> 00:24:52,640
Speaker 1: been like it was constantly, did you guys hear something

457
00:24:52,760 --> 00:24:54,800
Speaker 1: or hear some or not hear something because there was

458
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Speaker 1: so many people in the house and it was kind

459
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Speaker 1: of a party place. I would only think of this

460
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Speaker 1: as remarkable because I was alone and no one was around. No,

461
00:25:02,119 --> 00:25:04,720
Speaker 1: like there was no one. There was this giant, like

462
00:25:04,840 --> 00:25:07,480
Speaker 1: one large room on the first floor kind of with

463
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Speaker 1: no doors, and there's no there was no one around.

464
00:25:09,960 --> 00:25:13,199
Speaker 2: That's a really hard environment to live with that many people.

465
00:25:13,600 --> 00:25:15,600
Speaker 1: Uh, maybe I was just stressed out.

466
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Speaker 2: Well, what I'm saying is like to note there's a

467
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Speaker 2: ghost or not, you know, because it's like, why are

468
00:25:22,280 --> 00:25:23,280
Speaker 2: there dirty dishes?

469
00:25:23,400 --> 00:25:25,560
Speaker 1: And the it was a ghost like the ghosts?

470
00:25:25,680 --> 00:25:27,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly.

471
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Speaker 1: Also, you know, I do have vivid dreams sometimes, but

472
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Speaker 1: I don't think this was that because my dreams are different.

473
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Speaker 1: I don't have physically imposing dreams. Is that a way

474
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Speaker 1: to Yeah, I don't have dreams that feel like somebody's

475
00:25:42,119 --> 00:25:45,280
Speaker 1: hovering over me and poking me. Yeah, I have adventure

476
00:25:45,359 --> 00:25:47,040
Speaker 1: dreams that I and I try to write them down

477
00:25:47,040 --> 00:25:48,680
Speaker 1: when I wake up, But it's a very different sort

478
00:25:48,720 --> 00:25:53,199
Speaker 1: of like mindscape the dreams that I have compared to

479
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Speaker 1: this sensation.

480
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Speaker 2: I'm just so impressed by you the way you handled

481
00:25:58,720 --> 00:26:02,400
Speaker 2: that that is insane.

482
00:26:01,840 --> 00:26:05,720
Speaker 1: That I was like, well, that's probably the peak of

483
00:26:05,760 --> 00:26:08,600
Speaker 1: my young life at the age of you know, twenty

484
00:26:08,720 --> 00:26:11,199
Speaker 1: nine or thirty, probably the peak of my ability to

485
00:26:11,280 --> 00:26:14,480
Speaker 1: yell at yell at anything and be able to back

486
00:26:14,520 --> 00:26:15,600
Speaker 1: it up in any way.

487
00:26:15,880 --> 00:26:19,359
Speaker 2: That it's really it's very impressive. Are you. Are you

488
00:26:19,440 --> 00:26:20,359
Speaker 2: single at the moment?

489
00:26:21,000 --> 00:26:23,639
Speaker 1: Sure? I don't know how to answer that.

490
00:26:23,680 --> 00:26:27,399
Speaker 2: These days ballas if you are looking for someone that

491
00:26:27,400 --> 00:26:29,520
Speaker 2: will scare a ghost off in the middle of the night.

492
00:26:29,800 --> 00:26:32,680
Speaker 2: I mean, that's impressive. That's what I'm looking for.

493
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Speaker 1: Well more, I've learned since then to maybe not try

494
00:26:36,440 --> 00:26:39,400
Speaker 1: to scare them off, but just try to like be like, Okay,

495
00:26:40,000 --> 00:26:43,720
Speaker 1: here's a treat, go on your way. Yeah, I think

496
00:26:43,880 --> 00:26:45,199
Speaker 1: sometimes I think about it, and I was like, I

497
00:26:45,240 --> 00:26:45,760
Speaker 1: was too mean.

498
00:26:48,600 --> 00:26:49,439
Speaker 2: I think it's fine.

499
00:26:49,520 --> 00:26:53,040
Speaker 1: It's probably fine. They're dead anyway, right, they're already dead.

500
00:26:53,440 --> 00:26:56,920
Speaker 1: I mean, it's not like it's the worst is they're

501
00:26:56,920 --> 00:26:57,760
Speaker 1: going to be disappointed.

502
00:26:57,800 --> 00:27:00,920
Speaker 2: I lost a friend, Yeah, but you know, it made

503
00:27:00,960 --> 00:27:02,200
Speaker 2: a good story though.

504
00:27:02,400 --> 00:27:05,560
Speaker 1: It did, And I do think about it sometimes and

505
00:27:05,880 --> 00:27:09,760
Speaker 1: I can't recall that it's happened since then. It was

506
00:27:09,800 --> 00:27:13,439
Speaker 1: a maybe a unique thing to that house, or you know.

507
00:27:13,920 --> 00:27:17,399
Speaker 2: Sometimes what I've learned from here in these stories. Sometimes

508
00:27:17,440 --> 00:27:21,240
Speaker 2: it's not even connected to the place. It's like, who knows,

509
00:27:21,280 --> 00:27:23,960
Speaker 2: somebody threw a ghost at you when you were walking

510
00:27:24,000 --> 00:27:26,200
Speaker 2: down the street. You picked one.

511
00:27:26,080 --> 00:27:27,959
Speaker 1: Up somewhere, sure, who knows?

512
00:27:28,440 --> 00:27:32,120
Speaker 2: Who knows, right, And it was just a one time.

513
00:27:32,240 --> 00:27:34,120
Speaker 1: It's like a video game in that way.

514
00:27:33,960 --> 00:27:40,200
Speaker 2: And that poor ghost was like, okay, never mind, God sorry, Yeah, the.

515
00:27:40,160 --> 00:27:41,879
Speaker 1: Ghost is like I just wanted to know if I

516
00:27:41,880 --> 00:27:43,080
Speaker 1: could have some of your cheeses.

517
00:27:45,680 --> 00:27:49,480
Speaker 2: So I was thinking we could do something fun and

518
00:27:49,560 --> 00:27:51,919
Speaker 2: interesting and unique and different that we've never done on

519
00:27:51,960 --> 00:27:52,359
Speaker 2: the show.

520
00:27:53,040 --> 00:27:53,720
Speaker 1: I usually have a.

521
00:27:53,640 --> 00:27:56,560
Speaker 2: Strict real no impressionist, but there's.

522
00:27:56,400 --> 00:28:00,680
Speaker 1: One why why of all the we have so few

523
00:28:00,720 --> 00:28:01,240
Speaker 1: rules here?

524
00:28:02,480 --> 00:28:06,000
Speaker 2: I'm just kidding. You're definitely my favorite impressionist.

525
00:28:06,280 --> 00:28:08,360
Speaker 1: Well, thank you, it's an honor to be here.

526
00:28:08,520 --> 00:28:12,680
Speaker 2: No, I've always loved your impressions so much, And if

527
00:28:12,720 --> 00:28:16,360
Speaker 2: anyone has the opportunity to see James live, it is

528
00:28:17,119 --> 00:28:22,679
Speaker 2: such a fun experience to watch all the different people

529
00:28:22,720 --> 00:28:24,000
Speaker 2: you embody.

530
00:28:24,000 --> 00:28:26,760
Speaker 1: Funny enough there are opportunities to see me live.

531
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Speaker 2: Stay tuned, okay, yes, make sure you're listening. People.

532
00:28:32,040 --> 00:28:33,920
Speaker 1: I list some of those on my website and I'll

533
00:28:33,920 --> 00:28:35,959
Speaker 1: recount them at the appropriate.

534
00:28:35,440 --> 00:28:39,760
Speaker 2: Hour, please. So I was trying to think of you know,

535
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Speaker 2: Wikipedia gave me a couple of names that you've you're

536
00:28:43,320 --> 00:28:46,600
Speaker 2: famous for. I was, you know, I was thinking from

537
00:28:46,600 --> 00:28:50,480
Speaker 2: my own experience of being a fan. Over all these.

538
00:28:50,440 --> 00:28:53,080
Speaker 1: Years, we've done so many things together in the show

539
00:28:53,160 --> 00:28:57,120
Speaker 1: business on the boards, you know, we've really such a

540
00:28:57,400 --> 00:28:58,680
Speaker 1: oh dear old friend.

541
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Speaker 2: Really really, so, I was thinking, maybe some of those

542
00:29:02,640 --> 00:29:08,280
Speaker 2: people have ghost stories. So I found let me see here,

543
00:29:08,360 --> 00:29:14,440
Speaker 2: I found one, two, three, four that have ghost stories.

544
00:29:15,240 --> 00:29:17,600
Speaker 1: If you're down, did that you've looked this up? That

545
00:29:17,680 --> 00:29:19,560
Speaker 1: these they actually have them?

546
00:29:19,720 --> 00:29:23,480
Speaker 2: Honey, I was spending time. I was going Mike Lindell

547
00:29:23,680 --> 00:29:30,680
Speaker 2: ghost story. Literally, my Google history is like Eddie Pepatone Aliens.

548
00:29:30,760 --> 00:29:33,000
Speaker 3: I were stuffed into a trunk of a link of

549
00:29:33,080 --> 00:29:36,520
Speaker 3: toe car in Minneapolis. I let me tell you, it

550
00:29:36,560 --> 00:29:38,280
Speaker 3: was ten am before they open it up, and I

551
00:29:38,320 --> 00:29:40,280
Speaker 3: had ghost a whole time bumping her out and hight

552
00:29:40,440 --> 00:29:42,400
Speaker 3: her spare tires.

553
00:29:42,800 --> 00:29:46,360
Speaker 2: That's more than what I found. There was no Mike

554
00:29:46,440 --> 00:29:47,920
Speaker 2: Lindell ghost story.

555
00:29:47,800 --> 00:29:49,320
Speaker 1: Right, is the ghost story?

556
00:29:49,360 --> 00:29:51,720
Speaker 2: He is the ghost story and you could see him.

557
00:29:51,880 --> 00:29:53,400
Speaker 1: I would have gotten away with it. Two if it

558
00:29:53,440 --> 00:29:55,200
Speaker 1: weren't for you durt meddling kids.

559
00:29:55,360 --> 00:29:57,680
Speaker 2: If you ever see him on Jimmy Kimmel Live, that

560
00:29:57,800 --> 00:29:58,760
Speaker 2: is jameson Doomia.

561
00:29:58,840 --> 00:30:01,280
Speaker 1: Yes, that's I'm the my a little guy on Jimmy Kimmel.

562
00:30:01,840 --> 00:30:05,200
Speaker 2: Uh So if I give you some names, would you

563
00:30:05,240 --> 00:30:07,800
Speaker 2: be willing to give us a little idea of what

564
00:30:07,800 --> 00:30:08,240
Speaker 2: that might.

565
00:30:08,240 --> 00:30:11,440
Speaker 1: So yeah, let's try. Let's guess. Let's guess the ghost story, right, Okay?

566
00:30:11,600 --> 00:30:14,080
Speaker 2: Do you want me to tell you like a prompt

567
00:30:14,200 --> 00:30:15,120
Speaker 2: like where it was?

568
00:30:15,360 --> 00:30:18,160
Speaker 1: Or um? Sure? Yeah? Okay?

569
00:30:19,320 --> 00:30:25,480
Speaker 2: Paul Giamadi, Yeah, well, while uh playing Hamlet.

570
00:30:25,240 --> 00:30:30,440
Speaker 1: Of course, there it is. I was. I was cast

571
00:30:30,520 --> 00:30:33,320
Speaker 1: in the role of Hamlet. I cashed myself because well,

572
00:30:33,400 --> 00:30:36,160
Speaker 1: let's face it, I've been middle eight since I was

573
00:30:36,200 --> 00:30:36,840
Speaker 1: fucking born.

574
00:30:39,040 --> 00:30:39,840
Speaker 2: But there was a coach.

575
00:30:39,960 --> 00:30:42,480
Speaker 1: I was playing Hamlet. I was doing all the parts myself,

576
00:30:42,520 --> 00:30:44,920
Speaker 1: and what do you know, I forgot the lines. I

577
00:30:45,080 --> 00:30:49,880
Speaker 1: was bombing bombing as the tortured Prince of Denmark and

578
00:30:49,880 --> 00:30:51,920
Speaker 1: then well, what do you know, fuck me? It turns

579
00:30:51,960 --> 00:30:54,680
Speaker 1: out I was right there on stage and I said

580
00:30:54,680 --> 00:30:56,880
Speaker 1: a last poor yorick, and I was holding the skull

581
00:30:57,000 --> 00:31:02,040
Speaker 1: up and then it started talking back to me. He said, litten,

582
00:31:02,160 --> 00:31:06,800
Speaker 1: fuck face, you're not pushing tickets, and I said, that

583
00:31:06,840 --> 00:31:09,600
Speaker 1: doesn't scam with Shakespeare's.

584
00:31:08,920 --> 00:31:15,240
Speaker 2: Portfolio, honestly, not far off. This is what scares me

585
00:31:15,320 --> 00:31:19,160
Speaker 2: about when we perform in these haunted theaters, Like I

586
00:31:19,200 --> 00:31:21,480
Speaker 2: always think about if I saw a ghost when I'm

587
00:31:21,520 --> 00:31:25,320
Speaker 2: on stage, like that would destroy me, like the fear

588
00:31:25,680 --> 00:31:27,200
Speaker 2: of like, oh my god, I still have to do,

589
00:31:27,360 --> 00:31:29,160
Speaker 2: especially like a scripted.

590
00:31:29,240 --> 00:31:32,760
Speaker 1: Time I was on stage. This wasn't a ghost, but

591
00:31:33,720 --> 00:31:35,600
Speaker 1: like from the back of the room. I was on

592
00:31:35,640 --> 00:31:38,320
Speaker 1: stage at this comedy theater and they had all these

593
00:31:38,320 --> 00:31:40,800
Speaker 1: like pop culture things that you know, very often you're

594
00:31:40,800 --> 00:31:42,640
Speaker 1: on stage and you've got like a picture of Richard

595
00:31:42,720 --> 00:31:45,880
Speaker 1: Pryor and Bill shit that you have to ignore while

596
00:31:45,880 --> 00:31:48,280
Speaker 1: you're doing comedy. But this one they had all these

597
00:31:48,320 --> 00:31:51,800
Speaker 1: like pop culture characters and straight in the back directly

598
00:31:51,840 --> 00:31:56,400
Speaker 1: facing me was a giant wizard Gandolf as played by

599
00:31:56,560 --> 00:32:01,280
Speaker 1: Ian McKellen. The whole time there was the Scandolf staring

600
00:32:01,320 --> 00:32:03,640
Speaker 1: at me from the back of the room like do

601
00:32:03,680 --> 00:32:06,160
Speaker 1: you really think that was entertaining.

602
00:32:08,040 --> 00:32:12,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, I so, Paul jam The skull did not talk

603
00:32:13,000 --> 00:32:16,760
Speaker 2: back to him, but it was his dagger, so.

604
00:32:16,720 --> 00:32:19,760
Speaker 1: He a very short and small dagger.

605
00:32:19,880 --> 00:32:22,800
Speaker 2: Okay, the dagger did not tug back to him, but.

606
00:32:22,880 --> 00:32:25,520
Speaker 1: You know what's a delicate dagger. It's not a great weapon,

607
00:32:25,560 --> 00:32:27,840
Speaker 1: but it's a fantastic little shine cut.

608
00:32:28,040 --> 00:32:31,720
Speaker 2: He was on Steven Colbert and he was telling him

609
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Speaker 2: that when he was doing Hamlet at the at Yell

610
00:32:36,200 --> 00:32:38,160
Speaker 2: Repertoire at Yale Repertory.

611
00:32:38,320 --> 00:32:39,840
Speaker 1: That's right, and forty.

612
00:32:39,600 --> 00:32:43,560
Speaker 2: Year old Hamlet in twenty thirteen.

613
00:32:43,880 --> 00:32:45,960
Speaker 1: A gray haired, bald fucking a Hamlet.

614
00:32:47,840 --> 00:32:52,480
Speaker 2: So he's on stage and he's like, where's my prop dagger?

615
00:32:53,120 --> 00:32:58,040
Speaker 2: And he can't find it anywhere. And then during intermission

616
00:32:58,360 --> 00:33:00,720
Speaker 2: the stage hands are searching the stage, they're looking for

617
00:33:00,920 --> 00:33:03,440
Speaker 2: through the audience. They can't find it anywhere, and then

618
00:33:03,800 --> 00:33:08,040
Speaker 2: they find his dagger in an act too, on a

619
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Speaker 2: piece of scenery that he says was one hundred feet

620
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Speaker 2: up in the air, even though the dagger was on

621
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Speaker 2: him when he first started the show. Mmmm, he says,

622
00:33:17,680 --> 00:33:22,920
Speaker 2: it was a ghost. See this was great, that was great.

623
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Speaker 2: Can we keep going?

624
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Speaker 1: Yes? Okay, terrifying the terrifying tale, Paul Giamani and the

625
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Speaker 1: al Tagger ghost.

626
00:33:30,280 --> 00:33:34,800
Speaker 2: How about Gary Busey, Ladies and gentlemen and the soup

627
00:33:35,320 --> 00:33:36,760
Speaker 2: ghost Raj.

628
00:33:36,920 --> 00:33:39,560
Speaker 1: Let me tell you something. I'm firm, firm, and I

629
00:33:39,760 --> 00:33:42,600
Speaker 1: treasured this opportunity to come forward and talk about these

630
00:33:42,640 --> 00:33:46,800
Speaker 1: issues with a creditable witness here because I've talked to this,

631
00:33:46,920 --> 00:33:49,840
Speaker 1: I've been on the BBC, I've been on Chinese Communist News,

632
00:33:50,320 --> 00:33:52,640
Speaker 1: and the only person that has given me a platform

633
00:33:52,640 --> 00:33:55,239
Speaker 1: to talk about the truth of the supernatural is here

634
00:33:55,320 --> 00:33:56,280
Speaker 1: right on this program.

635
00:33:56,360 --> 00:33:57,040
Speaker 2: That's what we do.

636
00:33:57,240 --> 00:34:02,880
Speaker 1: And I believe in ghost, God's hell only Satan transgendered.

637
00:34:04,920 --> 00:34:06,760
Speaker 1: I don't know if I like that one.

638
00:34:07,960 --> 00:34:13,520
Speaker 2: So he says, quote, I had a ghost one time

639
00:34:13,680 --> 00:34:16,120
Speaker 2: come out of a big plate of soup. I had

640
00:34:17,000 --> 00:34:20,880
Speaker 2: plates of soup, a big bowl of soup. He corrects himself.

641
00:34:21,280 --> 00:34:24,280
Speaker 2: It was called a soup ghost, he continued.

642
00:34:24,600 --> 00:34:26,839
Speaker 1: It was the ever gaged into a bowl of soup

643
00:34:26,880 --> 00:34:29,680
Speaker 1: and seen the supernatural. That's the that is the that

644
00:34:29,800 --> 00:34:32,480
Speaker 1: is the kind of important wordplay that can lead you

645
00:34:32,520 --> 00:34:34,440
Speaker 1: towards the path path of victories or a path of

646
00:34:34,480 --> 00:34:35,520
Speaker 1: devil deviltry.

647
00:34:36,400 --> 00:34:38,840
Speaker 2: It could have been like a ghost of a klam,

648
00:34:38,880 --> 00:34:40,520
Speaker 2: a clam chowder ghost or something.

649
00:34:41,040 --> 00:34:43,600
Speaker 1: Look the clams. We've seen Alice in Wonderland. The clams

650
00:34:43,640 --> 00:34:47,120
Speaker 1: are down there. They have bonnets on. Lady, gentlemen, this

651
00:34:47,239 --> 00:34:49,360
Speaker 1: is this is the truth. The walrus and the carpenter

652
00:34:49,400 --> 00:34:51,120
Speaker 1: were trying to lead us down the path of truth.

653
00:34:51,640 --> 00:34:54,200
Speaker 2: He says it was a good looking ghost because it

654
00:34:54,239 --> 00:34:58,000
Speaker 2: was covered in vegetables. He says, that's my kind of broccoli.

655
00:34:58,040 --> 00:35:02,480
Speaker 1: Sometimes the broccoli is horning down there, Ladies, gentlemen, I've looked.

656
00:35:02,560 --> 00:35:05,880
Speaker 1: I've looked the soup in the eye. Sometimes the waiter

657
00:35:05,920 --> 00:35:09,640
Speaker 1: brings a bowl of soup. Uh, there's a French onion soup,

658
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Speaker 1: or like you said, a clamshowder or a good ministroni

659
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Speaker 1: or something, even if a spot show. I will PLoP

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Speaker 1: my face right down there and I will gurgle through

661
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Speaker 1: the liquid and say, waiter, there is a genius inside

662
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Speaker 1: of my soup. And I wait for the response, because

663
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Speaker 1: that's the word of Heaven.

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Speaker 2: Thank you, Cary, beauty.

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Speaker 1: You know what heaven stands for. He everlasting, always vets

666
00:35:32,680 --> 00:35:34,200
Speaker 1: every necessity.

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Speaker 2: Wow, I can't believe you get because I have seen

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Speaker 2: him do that thing. Where does the yeah, I guess

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Speaker 2: acronym for every.

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Speaker 1: Word, always creating redundant observations. Never your mind.

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Speaker 2: Wait, soup is supernatural?

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Speaker 1: Well that's just that's just a that's a contraction. Oh

673
00:35:54,840 --> 00:35:58,160
Speaker 1: that's soup is just simply short for supernatural.

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Speaker 2: The ass is supernatural.

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Speaker 1: Oh sure, but that supernatural observation is under penalty. Wow

676
00:36:06,200 --> 00:36:06,840
Speaker 1: are you now?

677
00:36:06,840 --> 00:36:08,279
Speaker 2: I'm going to rip it off and see if Gerry

678
00:36:08,320 --> 00:36:09,520
Speaker 2: PC is really in there.

679
00:36:11,280 --> 00:36:12,880
Speaker 1: I would not have gotten away with it because I

680
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Speaker 1: would have turned myself in if not for you meddling kids.

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Speaker 2: It says that he was heading out of Ralph's one

682
00:36:18,480 --> 00:36:23,840
Speaker 2: day in Malibu and uh TMZ asked him about seeing ghosts,

683
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Speaker 2: and that's when he gave us that wonderful story about

684
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Speaker 2: the soup ghost.

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Speaker 1: I love that he's the one guy that TMZ interrupts

686
00:36:31,080 --> 00:36:33,200
Speaker 1: on the street and he's like, oh, I'm I'm grateful

687
00:36:33,280 --> 00:36:35,520
Speaker 1: to talk to you. I'll sit here, I'll talk to

688
00:36:35,560 --> 00:36:37,759
Speaker 1: you for forty five minutes. TMZ is the one that's like,

689
00:36:37,880 --> 00:36:39,880
Speaker 1: it's like, okay, we're done, let's get out of here.

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00:36:40,280 --> 00:36:41,560
Speaker 2: That's a nice There's more.

691
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Speaker 1: I have more to say.

692
00:36:43,760 --> 00:36:45,000
Speaker 2: This is more than we can use.

693
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Speaker 1: Ralph is funded by the macis.

694
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Speaker 2: So moving along. We've got Mark Marin who claims he

695
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Speaker 2: experienced a ghost in nineteen eighty eight, eight in New

696
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Speaker 2: York City.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, man, I don't know. It was a summer in Ducaucus.

698
00:37:04,520 --> 00:37:07,640
Speaker 1: Everybody's everybody thought, Ducacus, who's gonna win. It was eighty eight.

699
00:37:08,160 --> 00:37:10,200
Speaker 1: We were young. We were doing the New New York thing.

700
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Speaker 1: I was on stage. I was I was on stage

701
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Speaker 1: at the cellar. I was on the stage of cellar.

702
00:37:17,200 --> 00:37:19,839
Speaker 1: It was bombing. It was bombing, and then I got

703
00:37:19,880 --> 00:37:21,399
Speaker 1: off and there was nobody at the table. He turned

704
00:37:21,400 --> 00:37:23,960
Speaker 1: the lights out and then suddenly I was levitating. It

705
00:37:24,040 --> 00:37:26,040
Speaker 1: was the ghost. It was the ghost of It was

706
00:37:26,080 --> 00:37:30,000
Speaker 1: the ghost of Sam Kennison. Fuck, it was the ghost

707
00:37:30,040 --> 00:37:32,239
Speaker 1: of Sam Kisson. He accused me of stealing one of

708
00:37:32,280 --> 00:37:34,439
Speaker 1: his jokes. I said, look, let's talk it out, man.

709
00:37:36,280 --> 00:37:39,840
Speaker 2: Wow, God, I love Mark me if wait, is the

710
00:37:39,960 --> 00:37:43,040
Speaker 2: under culture still out there? No thanks for asking, but

711
00:37:43,120 --> 00:37:44,839
Speaker 2: I mean, like, is it's still it's out there?

712
00:37:44,920 --> 00:37:45,520
Speaker 1: Yeah? That was.

713
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Speaker 2: There's an episode where you played Mark myren and our

714
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Speaker 2: dear friend, Our dear friend, Sam Pancake, Sam Pancake, Thank

715
00:37:53,200 --> 00:37:57,640
Speaker 2: you I forgot to Sam pan Cake plays rip Tailer.

716
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Speaker 1: That might be the best interview we did on the culture.

717
00:38:00,520 --> 00:38:03,120
Speaker 1: There was my podcast that ran for a year from

718
00:38:03,520 --> 00:38:07,040
Speaker 1: the pandemic killed it. It was twenty nineteen to twenty twenty.

719
00:38:07,080 --> 00:38:09,880
Speaker 1: It was the under Culture on Forever Dog and it

720
00:38:09,960 --> 00:38:12,400
Speaker 1: is very funny and it still exists. A lot of

721
00:38:12,400 --> 00:38:16,680
Speaker 1: it's on YouTube or Apple podcasts, but the whole thing

722
00:38:16,760 --> 00:38:20,239
Speaker 1: is on the website behind us. Very very one dollar

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Speaker 1: pay one.

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Speaker 2: That was one of the funniest pieces of comedy I

725
00:38:23,320 --> 00:38:25,800
Speaker 2: have ever heard. Both of you were just so on.

726
00:38:25,840 --> 00:38:28,720
Speaker 1: I was Mark Maren and Sam Pancake was Rip Tailor,

727
00:38:29,239 --> 00:38:32,239
Speaker 1: and I was trying because it was a conversation I imagine,

728
00:38:32,280 --> 00:38:35,480
Speaker 1: I just wanted to hear this, and so I was like, Rip,

729
00:38:35,680 --> 00:38:37,759
Speaker 1: come on, let's get down to it Rip, and he would.

730
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Speaker 1: Sam Pancake was hilariously. He told me he was going

731
00:38:42,719 --> 00:38:45,480
Speaker 1: to do this, not listening to anything I was saying

732
00:38:45,560 --> 00:38:49,120
Speaker 1: or asking, and just railroading. But it was appropriate because

733
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Speaker 1: that's what Rip Taylor would have done it.

734
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Speaker 2: It was kind of like when Gallagher was on Mark Maren.

735
00:38:54,280 --> 00:38:55,360
Speaker 1: We wanted it to be like that.

736
00:38:55,680 --> 00:38:57,920
Speaker 2: Then he kind of walked out at the I'm like

737
00:38:58,080 --> 00:39:01,719
Speaker 2: off book On this episode of the under culture. I've

738
00:39:01,719 --> 00:39:03,200
Speaker 2: listened to it so many times.

739
00:39:03,719 --> 00:39:05,680
Speaker 1: I love it too. I think there's a short clip

740
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Speaker 1: of it on YouTube that might be my favorite interview

741
00:39:09,400 --> 00:39:10,319
Speaker 1: from the whole damn thing.

742
00:39:10,480 --> 00:39:13,840
Speaker 2: Oh well, so Mark Maren's real story, we don't know

743
00:39:13,960 --> 00:39:15,960
Speaker 2: much about it. Hopefully one of these days we'll get

744
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Speaker 2: him in here, because I love Mark Maren. But he

745
00:39:19,200 --> 00:39:22,759
Speaker 2: basically was replying on a very short TikTok. Someone asked him,

746
00:39:23,120 --> 00:39:25,760
Speaker 2: they said, is it true that you saw a ghost

747
00:39:25,960 --> 00:39:28,600
Speaker 2: in nineteen eighty eight in New York City? And his

748
00:39:28,680 --> 00:39:34,480
Speaker 2: quote was something moved a chair, but I was really high.

749
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Speaker 1: That's a full I love how literal Maren does. I

750
00:39:39,760 --> 00:39:42,120
Speaker 1: don't buy any of the stuff, you know, you know

751
00:39:42,160 --> 00:39:45,720
Speaker 1: the They didn't light any candles, he didn't ask anybody,

752
00:39:45,800 --> 00:39:47,600
Speaker 1: There was no I didn't do any taro.

753
00:39:49,560 --> 00:39:51,520
Speaker 2: Something moved to charity with high.

754
00:39:51,560 --> 00:39:53,080
Speaker 1: I don't believe in any of this bullshit. I don't

755
00:39:53,080 --> 00:39:54,680
Speaker 1: even believe. I don't even believe in the John Lennon

756
00:39:54,800 --> 00:39:56,040
Speaker 1: song about what you don't believe in.

757
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Speaker 2: First of all, this is the most talk of heterosexual

758
00:40:00,719 --> 00:40:02,440
Speaker 2: men we've ever had on this podcast.

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00:40:02,560 --> 00:40:09,520
Speaker 1: This is sorry I do. I basically do drag as unattractive. No,

760
00:40:10,000 --> 00:40:15,200
Speaker 1: Maren's hot, Maron's hot, okay, but generally either grumpy or unattractive. Man.

761
00:40:17,200 --> 00:40:21,399
Speaker 2: Straight men are an underrepresented group on this show, and

762
00:40:21,480 --> 00:40:24,480
Speaker 2: so it is nice to sometimes talk about them.

763
00:40:24,680 --> 00:40:26,520
Speaker 1: I get locked in because I don't know, I can't.

764
00:40:26,560 --> 00:40:27,960
Speaker 1: I have to do the voices.

765
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Speaker 2: You do the voices, and you do them. Well, okay,

766
00:40:31,000 --> 00:40:36,040
Speaker 2: here's the last one. Elon Musk sells his thirty million

767
00:40:36,120 --> 00:40:38,480
Speaker 2: dollar mansion because he says it's creepy.

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00:40:40,000 --> 00:40:45,960
Speaker 1: Well, obviously, I lived in bel Air for quite a while,

769
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Speaker 1: and my god lived in bel Air for quite a while.

770
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Speaker 1: And I was trying to solve humanity by getting us

771
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Speaker 1: to Mars, because you know, sitting in traffic to who

772
00:41:00,920 --> 00:41:03,440
Speaker 1: long to get to sant Monica or long Leach or something,

773
00:41:03,880 --> 00:41:08,720
Speaker 1: And so I thought, well, why not just get there faster?

774
00:41:08,840 --> 00:41:10,520
Speaker 1: And while we're doing that, why not make it any

775
00:41:10,760 --> 00:41:15,080
Speaker 1: longer journey. So let's get to Mars. Well, I started

776
00:41:15,080 --> 00:41:20,239
Speaker 1: to see these terrible visions of blood.

777
00:41:21,000 --> 00:41:23,280
Speaker 2: And that feels normal.

778
00:41:23,360 --> 00:41:26,239
Speaker 1: I realized that that was what I was aiming for,

779
00:41:26,560 --> 00:41:30,680
Speaker 1: Like AD asked for a per sanguinem, you know, to

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00:41:30,800 --> 00:41:34,640
Speaker 1: the stars to blood that I wanted to have, like

781
00:41:34,760 --> 00:41:39,200
Speaker 1: a lot of people die, similar to other great works

782
00:41:39,239 --> 00:41:43,319
Speaker 1: of ancient kings, you know Ozumandias or the Pharaohs of Egypt, Like,

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00:41:43,400 --> 00:41:45,319
Speaker 1: you're not going to build a pyramid without a certain

784
00:41:45,360 --> 00:41:48,799
Speaker 1: number of people being buried alive. And I thought, what

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00:41:48,880 --> 00:41:52,680
Speaker 1: a greater monument than Mars. And that's when the hallucinations started,

786
00:41:52,760 --> 00:41:58,480
Speaker 1: the ghosts appearances, where I saw these terrifying ghosts of

787
00:41:58,520 --> 00:42:01,080
Speaker 1: these creatures that didn't want me to accomplish my plans.

788
00:42:01,600 --> 00:42:04,240
Speaker 1: And they would be like, oh, we're like, we actually

789
00:42:04,480 --> 00:42:09,240
Speaker 1: like Earth and we don't want you building a platform

790
00:42:09,280 --> 00:42:12,279
Speaker 1: to the stars over our bodies and the bodies of

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00:42:12,320 --> 00:42:16,040
Speaker 1: our children. And so that's when I decided to tunnel

792
00:42:17,880 --> 00:42:22,800
Speaker 1: deeply with my my special tubes. It's tunnel so I

793
00:42:22,840 --> 00:42:24,680
Speaker 1: didn't have to see the ghosts, but it just got

794
00:42:24,680 --> 00:42:27,000
Speaker 1: me closer to Hell and different kinds of dements. So

795
00:42:27,719 --> 00:42:30,720
Speaker 1: even pretty pretty cool, pretty like l cool.

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Speaker 2: God, he's so cool and so funny.

797
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Speaker 1: I'm like really cool.

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Speaker 2: Lots of children, he's like the coolest guy, like of.

799
00:42:37,800 --> 00:42:41,480
Speaker 1: My many children were or we'll even read my Christmas

800
00:42:41,520 --> 00:42:42,400
Speaker 1: cards when I said them.

801
00:42:43,600 --> 00:42:47,440
Speaker 2: So who was that podcast? Called full sand podcast?

802
00:42:47,800 --> 00:42:53,520
Speaker 1: And right on miss clip promoting dangerous conspiracy there pretty

803
00:42:54,080 --> 00:42:55,280
Speaker 1: obviously like normal.

804
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Speaker 2: He says that, yeah, has forty seven acre home er Land.

805
00:43:01,840 --> 00:43:05,320
Speaker 2: The house that was on forty seven acres, he said

806
00:43:05,320 --> 00:43:08,680
Speaker 2: that he would hear a lot of noises and you know,

807
00:43:08,760 --> 00:43:11,520
Speaker 2: doors open sometimes, but he kind of doesn't believe that

808
00:43:11,920 --> 00:43:12,440
Speaker 2: in ghosts.

809
00:43:12,520 --> 00:43:16,680
Speaker 1: But right, someone tried to someone tried to make me

810
00:43:16,760 --> 00:43:19,239
Speaker 1: believe that. Oh no, there was an explanation for it.

811
00:43:19,280 --> 00:43:23,520
Speaker 1: That there were like younger guys that were like opening

812
00:43:23,520 --> 00:43:28,440
Speaker 1: doors and bringing their girlfriends in or like having sex

813
00:43:28,480 --> 00:43:31,960
Speaker 1: with some girlfriend or wife that I was with at

814
00:43:31,960 --> 00:43:35,759
Speaker 1: the time, and there would like farcical like opening of

815
00:43:35,800 --> 00:43:38,040
Speaker 1: closing of doors and stuff, and that I never saw them.

816
00:43:38,040 --> 00:43:40,560
Speaker 1: But that's obviously not an explanation. It had to be ghosts.

817
00:43:40,719 --> 00:43:43,560
Speaker 2: It was probably the kids. There's probably so many kids.

818
00:43:43,600 --> 00:43:46,280
Speaker 2: He forgets how many kids there are in the house.

819
00:43:46,360 --> 00:43:49,319
Speaker 1: There are at any one time, like twenty three or

820
00:43:49,960 --> 00:43:54,040
Speaker 1: maybe even like twenty five kids, and hard to keep

821
00:43:54,080 --> 00:43:57,239
Speaker 1: track because sometimes they slip in and out of existence

822
00:43:57,400 --> 00:44:03,480
Speaker 1: because of my various experiments with dimensionality. So that was

823
00:44:03,520 --> 00:44:08,879
Speaker 1: that you did it so right, And so looking forward

824
00:44:08,920 --> 00:44:12,520
Speaker 1: to going to suplim places like Mars where if there's

825
00:44:12,520 --> 00:44:15,720
Speaker 1: a ghost. We will actually like merge with the ghost

826
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Speaker 1: and become sort of like like a half ghost, half human,

827
00:44:21,880 --> 00:44:25,080
Speaker 1: hybrid species, half alien and looking forward to this just

828
00:44:25,120 --> 00:44:27,600
Speaker 1: to be able to go through rocks so I won't

829
00:44:27,640 --> 00:44:31,720
Speaker 1: have the tunnel anymore with my tubes, my magnetic shoes,

830
00:44:31,920 --> 00:44:36,560
Speaker 1: and these are ghosts. Also that conveniently, the ghosts I see,

831
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Speaker 1: I've programmed them into Tesla's. If you notice when there's

832
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Speaker 1: a little people on the sidewalks when you're driving a

833
00:44:42,200 --> 00:44:44,280
Speaker 1: Tesla or in the back of a Tesla or something,

834
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Speaker 1: that there's like people on the sidewalks that kind of

835
00:44:47,239 --> 00:44:50,000
Speaker 1: disappear just as you're about to run into them, that's

836
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Speaker 1: the kinds of ghost I see. I see human beings

837
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Speaker 1: as ghosts. It's a lot like the Chamalon film, except

838
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Speaker 1: for me. I don't see dead people. I just simply

839
00:45:01,160 --> 00:45:04,440
Speaker 1: don't see living people. Instead of them, I see like

840
00:45:04,560 --> 00:45:08,520
Speaker 1: ghosts of stalks that are that are you know? There

841
00:45:08,560 --> 00:45:11,920
Speaker 1: there as an advisory in my warning panel on the Tesla,

842
00:45:12,080 --> 00:45:14,640
Speaker 1: like not to avoid them, but just to let you

843
00:45:14,719 --> 00:45:17,200
Speaker 1: know that if you should desire to, there's someone you

844
00:45:17,239 --> 00:45:18,160
Speaker 1: can run over that way.

845
00:45:18,760 --> 00:45:22,640
Speaker 2: I'm not even kidding you. People do upload to TikTok

846
00:45:23,040 --> 00:45:27,400
Speaker 2: them driving their Teslas through cemeteries and spooky places, and

847
00:45:27,440 --> 00:45:31,879
Speaker 2: there's it picks up humans on that thing, right, it's

848
00:45:31,960 --> 00:45:34,080
Speaker 2: it's that, aren't there.

849
00:45:33,880 --> 00:45:36,719
Speaker 1: The Tesla automobiles is designed to pick up lots of

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00:45:36,760 --> 00:45:37,800
Speaker 1: false signals.

851
00:45:38,960 --> 00:45:39,640
Speaker 2: Sounds safe.

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00:45:39,719 --> 00:45:43,080
Speaker 1: There are dogs that the Tesla would be like alert, alert,

853
00:45:43,440 --> 00:45:46,279
Speaker 1: like this is the President of the United States, this

854
00:45:46,400 --> 00:45:49,000
Speaker 1: is a great visiting foreign dignitary, what have you. And

855
00:45:49,040 --> 00:45:52,799
Speaker 1: then sometimes there would be like, for example, Tesla's don't

856
00:45:52,800 --> 00:45:56,839
Speaker 1: see nuns nuns if they're wearing the habits of Catholic nun.

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00:45:57,120 --> 00:45:59,319
Speaker 1: The Tesla just simply doesn't pick it up because of

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00:45:59,360 --> 00:46:02,719
Speaker 1: the black and white interference. So they're in danger. And

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00:46:02,760 --> 00:46:04,160
Speaker 1: I think in the future we're going to have to

860
00:46:04,160 --> 00:46:08,200
Speaker 1: put them in underground shuttles or simply ship from Baltimor.

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00:46:08,520 --> 00:46:17,240
Speaker 2: And that is sister Act three. The plot. James, let's

862
00:46:17,320 --> 00:46:22,680
Speaker 2: do something untoward, let's do something a little spooky. And

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00:46:23,000 --> 00:46:26,160
Speaker 2: by the way, thank you for that segment. That was amazing,

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Speaker 2: Thank you incredible.

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Speaker 1: There's less, there's less of that where that came from.

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Speaker 2: You can see James live, do you know right now?

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Speaker 2: Give them a couple of dates.

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Speaker 1: Yes, jamesdomain dot com and my link tree, and I

869
00:46:38,760 --> 00:46:40,880
Speaker 1: try to post these on social media. I'm gonna be

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00:46:40,920 --> 00:46:44,440
Speaker 1: in Arlington, Virginia at the Arlington Draft House this month

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00:46:44,440 --> 00:46:47,160
Speaker 1: in December, and then in early January, I'm going to

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Speaker 1: be at Good Nights in Raleigh, North Carolina.

873
00:46:49,320 --> 00:46:50,560
Speaker 2: Oh, I'm mightna be there in November.

874
00:46:50,680 --> 00:46:53,160
Speaker 1: It's beautiful, right, I just was there there.

875
00:46:53,920 --> 00:46:55,880
Speaker 2: We do record this early, people know that.

876
00:46:55,960 --> 00:46:58,600
Speaker 1: And then I'm going to be at hel You in Portland.

877
00:46:58,960 --> 00:47:01,880
Speaker 2: I'm going to be there in December.

878
00:47:01,120 --> 00:47:03,040
Speaker 1: So I'm there in early January. So there we go.

879
00:47:03,080 --> 00:47:06,160
Speaker 1: We're on the same track. Oh my god, we're in

880
00:47:06,160 --> 00:47:09,280
Speaker 1: the circuit and there's other dates and stuff coming together.

881
00:47:09,520 --> 00:47:12,120
Speaker 1: And you can so James adomain dot com or my

882
00:47:12,200 --> 00:47:15,680
Speaker 1: link tree which is Jadomian just like my Instagram.

883
00:47:15,880 --> 00:47:16,359
Speaker 2: Love it.

884
00:47:17,200 --> 00:47:17,359
Speaker 1: Uh.

885
00:47:17,800 --> 00:47:21,479
Speaker 2: Can I show you a haunted doll? Yes, okay, it's

886
00:47:21,520 --> 00:47:25,400
Speaker 2: time for a segment I call the dolls are Living.

887
00:47:27,920 --> 00:47:30,320
Speaker 2: So what I do is I go to eBay dot com.

888
00:47:30,440 --> 00:47:34,920
Speaker 2: I look up haunted dolls. There's always thousands of haunted

889
00:47:34,920 --> 00:47:39,120
Speaker 2: dolls being sold and sort of the idea is usually

890
00:47:39,400 --> 00:47:42,400
Speaker 2: a living person died and somehow ends up in a

891
00:47:42,440 --> 00:47:45,399
Speaker 2: haunted doll that is now being sold on eBay. That's

892
00:47:45,480 --> 00:47:48,520
Speaker 2: the story that these people go with. They come with backstories,

893
00:47:49,120 --> 00:47:53,440
Speaker 2: and today we have one that doesn't necessarily look scary,

894
00:47:53,560 --> 00:47:56,560
Speaker 2: but it has a backstory to it. This is a

895
00:47:56,600 --> 00:48:02,280
Speaker 2: doll named Lil Choppy, Little Choppy. Lil Choppy, Little Choppy,

896
00:48:02,680 --> 00:48:05,360
Speaker 2: and Lil Choppy is going for thirty four dollars and

897
00:48:05,440 --> 00:48:09,920
Speaker 2: ninety nine cents. Geehash show was Lil Choppy? Please you

898
00:48:10,000 --> 00:48:10,279
Speaker 2: got it?

899
00:48:10,360 --> 00:48:12,680
Speaker 1: Rose three dollars ninety nine cents.

900
00:48:12,760 --> 00:48:15,480
Speaker 2: Nope, thirty four dollars thirty four So it's basically a

901
00:48:15,520 --> 00:48:19,080
Speaker 2: little Chihuahua beanie baby looking thing.

902
00:48:19,360 --> 00:48:21,680
Speaker 1: I know this one though. It has batteries and it

903
00:48:21,760 --> 00:48:24,080
Speaker 1: barks and moves. I bet if it's the one yep,

904
00:48:24,200 --> 00:48:27,000
Speaker 1: I can see I've had one of these before. Oh

905
00:48:27,000 --> 00:48:29,719
Speaker 1: it has a video well similar, it's similar to the

906
00:48:29,719 --> 00:48:34,360
Speaker 1: one I had? Yes, okay, does he bark? Well not?

907
00:48:34,960 --> 00:48:38,839
Speaker 2: This one probably just puts curses on you because Lil

908
00:48:38,920 --> 00:48:40,520
Speaker 2: Choppy is spooky, honey.

909
00:48:41,280 --> 00:48:43,560
Speaker 1: The one I had, I actually gave it away. It's

910
00:48:43,560 --> 00:48:45,520
Speaker 1: a little slightly different than this, but I gave it

911
00:48:45,560 --> 00:48:48,600
Speaker 1: to an ex boyfriend as a joke gift. That was like, uh,

912
00:48:48,880 --> 00:48:51,040
Speaker 1: there was like, hey, this is you this.

913
00:48:51,640 --> 00:48:53,240
Speaker 2: Did you put a spirit inside? Oh?

914
00:48:53,280 --> 00:48:54,799
Speaker 1: I didn't do anything like that. It was just like

915
00:48:54,840 --> 00:48:56,880
Speaker 1: this is a joke, like, hey, this is in case

916
00:48:57,160 --> 00:49:00,279
Speaker 1: you're wondering, this is this is like how uh this

917
00:49:00,360 --> 00:49:01,120
Speaker 1: is how you are to me.

918
00:49:01,200 --> 00:49:09,319
Speaker 2: Sometimes well it says, uh, this is Lil Choppy and

919
00:49:09,480 --> 00:49:13,399
Speaker 2: she is one of the sweetest and funniest dolls I've

920
00:49:13,520 --> 00:49:15,960
Speaker 2: ever encountered. Okay, so it's not that spooky. It's a

921
00:49:16,120 --> 00:49:20,480
Speaker 2: it's a sweet one. She's kept safe and clean by

922
00:49:20,520 --> 00:49:21,880
Speaker 2: a spirit keeper.

923
00:49:22,120 --> 00:49:25,719
Speaker 1: Now that that's you. You the owner put that into it.

924
00:49:26,040 --> 00:49:30,480
Speaker 2: Yes, uh, since they already had many good encounters with her,

925
00:49:30,760 --> 00:49:33,520
Speaker 2: they wanted to pass it on to someone with good vibes.

926
00:49:34,120 --> 00:49:37,399
Speaker 2: Now wait a minute, now they change the pronouns because

927
00:49:37,400 --> 00:49:43,279
Speaker 2: it says he was a comedian who loved improv and

928
00:49:43,400 --> 00:49:47,280
Speaker 2: making people laugh. So there's an there's an old Dell close,

929
00:49:48,800 --> 00:49:51,960
Speaker 2: there's an old Second City or cast member.

930
00:49:52,280 --> 00:49:57,400
Speaker 1: Oh it's John Candy. Oh you know you know what.

931
00:49:57,920 --> 00:49:58,959
Speaker 1: They're very interesting breed.

932
00:50:02,000 --> 00:50:03,919
Speaker 2: He died of a rare illness. There's always a little

933
00:50:03,920 --> 00:50:05,879
Speaker 2: bit of a sad the always gotta tell you did

934
00:50:06,640 --> 00:50:10,279
Speaker 2: that Little Choppy died of a rare illness. Didn't tell

935
00:50:10,360 --> 00:50:12,640
Speaker 2: me when he was sick. Okay. His life's mission is

936
00:50:12,680 --> 00:50:14,719
Speaker 2: to be there for you, make you feel better and

937
00:50:14,760 --> 00:50:16,319
Speaker 2: give you more abundant life.

938
00:50:16,360 --> 00:50:17,280
Speaker 1: He sounds sweet.

939
00:50:17,600 --> 00:50:21,480
Speaker 2: He loves children and animals, safe to keep in a

940
00:50:21,560 --> 00:50:24,760
Speaker 2: house and keep inside of the house.

941
00:50:24,960 --> 00:50:27,759
Speaker 1: I'm a mog, half man, half dog. I'm my own

942
00:50:27,800 --> 00:50:28,719
Speaker 1: best friend.

943
00:50:28,520 --> 00:50:32,279
Speaker 2: Oh my god. And he'll bring joy and good luck

944
00:50:32,360 --> 00:50:35,120
Speaker 2: to you. He will be sweet and welcoming to those

945
00:50:35,560 --> 00:50:37,040
Speaker 2: who come into your environment.

946
00:50:37,719 --> 00:50:43,600
Speaker 1: Also, he can sell shower curtain rings. He could be

947
00:50:43,600 --> 00:50:46,000
Speaker 1: an annoying travel companion, but you grow to love him.

948
00:50:46,239 --> 00:50:51,640
Speaker 2: Oh my god, John Candy, I listen. It very well

949
00:50:51,800 --> 00:50:55,360
Speaker 2: could be. And now he's reinvented himself as Lil Choppy.

950
00:50:56,480 --> 00:51:00,360
Speaker 2: And it says he's an encouraging schore. No, he's an

951
00:51:00,440 --> 00:51:04,319
Speaker 2: encouraging spirit that will say positive affirmations and jokes to you,

952
00:51:05,160 --> 00:51:10,080
Speaker 2: and he will provide sweet dreams while you sleep. So

953
00:51:10,160 --> 00:51:12,880
Speaker 2: that's a little choppy. Thirty four dollars and ninety.

954
00:51:12,600 --> 00:51:14,480
Speaker 1: Mins, jumpy. I admire your body of work.

955
00:51:16,920 --> 00:51:19,920
Speaker 2: Okay, let's do one last thing here. Can I play

956
00:51:19,960 --> 00:51:21,200
Speaker 2: you some ghost voices?

957
00:51:21,400 --> 00:51:21,640
Speaker 1: Yes?

958
00:51:21,880 --> 00:51:27,719
Speaker 2: Oh, finally someone else doing voices it's time for EVP

959
00:51:29,280 --> 00:51:37,480
Speaker 2: or ev please EVPs electronic voice phenomena. It's when people

960
00:51:37,480 --> 00:51:41,600
Speaker 2: believe they've captured a ghost speaking they record it. Yeah. Yeah,

961
00:51:41,640 --> 00:51:43,000
Speaker 2: So what I do is I go to eat to

962
00:51:43,200 --> 00:51:47,839
Speaker 2: YouTube and I find two EVPs, and I'm gonna play

963
00:51:47,880 --> 00:51:51,359
Speaker 2: it for you. You tell me you're you're you're really an

964
00:51:51,360 --> 00:51:54,439
Speaker 2: expert in the world of voices. I have a feeling

965
00:51:54,480 --> 00:51:57,160
Speaker 2: that you're gonna be able to listen and pick out

966
00:51:57,200 --> 00:52:00,480
Speaker 2: what we're here in here. Uh, you know, it's funny

967
00:52:00,520 --> 00:52:03,759
Speaker 2: sometimes they have like you'll watch like a documentary about

968
00:52:03,760 --> 00:52:07,560
Speaker 2: this stuff, and they'll have like a recording engineer expert

969
00:52:07,680 --> 00:52:11,279
Speaker 2: that is listening and decides, oh, this is a real

970
00:52:11,440 --> 00:52:14,799
Speaker 2: human speaking or whatever. I'm curious what you might think.

971
00:52:14,880 --> 00:52:18,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, you get all these self declared experts. Somebody who's like, oh,

972
00:52:18,719 --> 00:52:23,320
Speaker 1: you got designated as a credentialed professional witness by the

973
00:52:23,680 --> 00:52:29,879
Speaker 1: local county court. Save your credentials. I'm not interested. As

974
00:52:29,920 --> 00:52:33,160
Speaker 1: Bruce Lee said, your black belt is only used good

975
00:52:33,200 --> 00:52:37,640
Speaker 1: for holding up your pants. I want to speak to

976
00:52:37,680 --> 00:52:40,160
Speaker 1: me like I'm a full citizens. I want to judge

977
00:52:40,160 --> 00:52:41,240
Speaker 1: on the evidence alone.

978
00:52:41,440 --> 00:52:46,080
Speaker 2: This will be interesting. This was posted by Razor Baby one.

979
00:52:46,400 --> 00:52:49,080
Speaker 1: On you two Razor Baby, and.

980
00:52:49,560 --> 00:52:54,120
Speaker 2: It's from the Metro Area Paranormal Society also known as MAPS,

981
00:52:54,800 --> 00:52:57,920
Speaker 2: and they are in Omaha, Nebraska. And this is a

982
00:52:58,040 --> 00:53:02,520
Speaker 2: business that was in the area of Dundee, Nebraska. I

983
00:53:02,560 --> 00:53:04,399
Speaker 2: don't know what the business was called. But they did

984
00:53:04,400 --> 00:53:11,600
Speaker 2: a ghost hunt there. And what did this ghost say?

985
00:53:12,640 --> 00:53:15,640
Speaker 2: It's a real soft whisper. Let me play it again.

986
00:53:20,160 --> 00:53:26,439
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's an Omaha right, Yeah, yeah, it's hey.

987
00:53:26,440 --> 00:53:35,600
Speaker 2: It's just they're saying, hey, hey, I mean that's very

988
00:53:35,640 --> 00:53:36,200
Speaker 2: well could be.

989
00:53:36,480 --> 00:53:39,439
Speaker 1: I think the ghost is talking to another ghost, going hey,

990
00:53:39,560 --> 00:53:42,000
Speaker 1: watch out, this guy's going to discover us.

991
00:53:43,080 --> 00:53:49,919
Speaker 2: Honestly, I heard that, So that's not what they thought. Necessarily,

992
00:53:50,880 --> 00:53:53,040
Speaker 2: I'm going to give you a B, C D. And

993
00:53:53,120 --> 00:53:55,479
Speaker 2: it was one of these that they believe it said.

994
00:53:55,920 --> 00:54:01,360
Speaker 2: Did they think it was a you are? I think

995
00:54:01,560 --> 00:54:02,680
Speaker 2: what I didn't.

996
00:54:02,719 --> 00:54:04,719
Speaker 1: I'd have to isolate the audio and bump it up

997
00:54:04,760 --> 00:54:08,480
Speaker 1: and well enhance, isolated, enhance.

998
00:54:09,160 --> 00:54:11,200
Speaker 2: This is this is isolated at a hag.

999
00:54:11,320 --> 00:54:13,040
Speaker 1: I can't I don't hear that.

1000
00:54:13,320 --> 00:54:17,279
Speaker 2: Okay, Okay, well they think it was B there's no

1001
00:54:17,640 --> 00:54:22,520
Speaker 2: way you're here. Did they think it was C get

1002
00:54:22,840 --> 00:54:29,480
Speaker 2: away from us? Or d oh? You make me nuts.

1003
00:54:30,200 --> 00:54:32,960
Speaker 1: They thought it was get away from us. That's what

1004
00:54:33,000 --> 00:54:33,319
Speaker 1: I said.

1005
00:54:33,400 --> 00:54:36,080
Speaker 2: That is exactly what they thought. Now that we know

1006
00:54:36,120 --> 00:54:36,440
Speaker 2: that was.

1007
00:54:36,600 --> 00:54:39,160
Speaker 1: It was there. It's a negative mindset, you know, you

1008
00:54:39,280 --> 00:54:45,520
Speaker 1: just got to embrace the voice. Get away from us.

1009
00:54:45,680 --> 00:54:47,959
Speaker 2: I hear it, I hear it.

1010
00:54:48,200 --> 00:54:51,239
Speaker 1: I think it's just hey, it could be.

1011
00:54:52,280 --> 00:54:55,520
Speaker 2: Now here's one more from the same group. This time

1012
00:54:55,560 --> 00:55:00,239
Speaker 2: it was at a local cemetery in Omaha. What does

1013
00:55:00,239 --> 00:55:02,240
Speaker 2: this one say? It's a little different sounding.

1014
00:55:06,760 --> 00:55:07,360
Speaker 1: That's scary.

1015
00:55:07,600 --> 00:55:08,360
Speaker 2: Let me play it again?

1016
00:55:12,960 --> 00:55:20,160
Speaker 1: Can I hear over time? Nobody wants to play with me.

1017
00:55:23,520 --> 00:55:25,040
Speaker 1: It's not play, it's some other word.

1018
00:55:25,160 --> 00:55:26,360
Speaker 2: But it's definitely that.

1019
00:55:27,800 --> 00:55:28,279
Speaker 1: With me.

1020
00:55:29,280 --> 00:55:33,000
Speaker 2: Definitely that vibe with me. Did they think it was

1021
00:55:33,120 --> 00:55:39,279
Speaker 2: a please, will you buy some snacks? B? These are

1022
00:55:39,320 --> 00:55:45,320
Speaker 2: the sheep God wants next? See we need to see

1023
00:55:45,440 --> 00:55:50,799
Speaker 2: you here? Or D three to the three to the four,

1024
00:55:50,960 --> 00:55:51,680
Speaker 2: five six?

1025
00:55:52,560 --> 00:55:58,600
Speaker 1: Can I hear it again? It's number three? What was that.

1026
00:56:00,120 --> 00:56:01,600
Speaker 2: You need to see you here?

1027
00:56:01,880 --> 00:56:04,000
Speaker 1: We need to see you here. I think that's what

1028
00:56:04,040 --> 00:56:05,680
Speaker 1: they think the voice said.

1029
00:56:05,920 --> 00:56:10,040
Speaker 2: They think it's be These are the sheep God wants next.

1030
00:56:10,239 --> 00:56:13,439
Speaker 1: It's too there's too much information you're loading into it.

1031
00:56:14,600 --> 00:56:16,760
Speaker 1: That's that's reading between the sounds.

1032
00:56:17,239 --> 00:56:19,560
Speaker 2: But now that we know that, let's let's listen for

1033
00:56:19,800 --> 00:56:23,720
Speaker 2: these are the sheep God wants next?

1034
00:56:25,520 --> 00:56:28,560
Speaker 1: I hear it, no, because it's like a. It's a.

1035
00:56:28,719 --> 00:56:33,360
Speaker 1: It's a. There is a softer intention if there was

1036
00:56:33,360 --> 00:56:36,000
Speaker 1: a if there was a declaration like that, it would

1037
00:56:36,040 --> 00:56:39,799
Speaker 1: be more pronounced. There was a softer intention. Like it

1038
00:56:39,880 --> 00:56:42,759
Speaker 1: sounds to me like if that that voice, whether it's

1039
00:56:42,760 --> 00:56:45,239
Speaker 1: a ghost or a human or whatever, it sounds like

1040
00:56:45,280 --> 00:56:49,279
Speaker 1: it's lamenting, like it's complaining, like it's self pitying. Yeah,

1041
00:56:49,480 --> 00:56:52,600
Speaker 1: nobody wants to see me or whatever, something that doesn't

1042
00:56:52,640 --> 00:56:55,640
Speaker 1: want me not maybe maybe maybe that's it.

1043
00:56:55,920 --> 00:57:02,600
Speaker 2: Oh, James, real quick, I'm curious your your thoughts on

1044
00:57:02,640 --> 00:57:06,680
Speaker 2: a couple of things. What do you think about what

1045
00:57:06,719 --> 00:57:07,760
Speaker 2: do you think about ghosts?

1046
00:57:10,080 --> 00:57:14,160
Speaker 1: It's a Martin short. Yes, Jimmy Glick, what do you

1047
00:57:14,200 --> 00:57:15,120
Speaker 1: thoughts of ghosts?

1048
00:57:15,640 --> 00:57:18,520
Speaker 2: Exactly? That's my favorite character of all time. Yeah, I

1049
00:57:18,560 --> 00:57:23,960
Speaker 2: love Jimminy Glick. What what are your thoughts on aliens?

1050
00:57:24,480 --> 00:57:27,720
Speaker 1: Sure they seem like they're out there, you know, the

1051
00:57:27,840 --> 00:57:29,880
Speaker 1: of course, the the Fermi paradox.

1052
00:57:30,440 --> 00:57:31,880
Speaker 2: What's the Fermi paradox.

1053
00:57:33,000 --> 00:57:37,960
Speaker 1: It's named after an Italian astrophysicist. I believe. Uh if

1054
00:57:38,160 --> 00:57:41,160
Speaker 1: is it Frederico Fermi or Enrico Fermi? I forget, but

1055
00:57:41,200 --> 00:57:43,440
Speaker 1: it's doctor Fermie from the.

1056
00:57:43,440 --> 00:57:46,360
Speaker 2: Nineteen If he's an Italian man, he's Fermi.

1057
00:57:48,560 --> 00:57:50,480
Speaker 1: He was sort of he was one of the people

1058
00:57:50,560 --> 00:57:55,720
Speaker 1: on the Manhattan Project and he had developed this what

1059
00:57:55,760 --> 00:57:59,440
Speaker 1: do you call it axiom, which is a sort of

1060
00:57:59,480 --> 00:58:03,080
Speaker 1: a statement other people to investigate. It's not quite a theory,

1061
00:58:03,120 --> 00:58:05,280
Speaker 1: it's a statement to be investigated. Where he was saying,

1062
00:58:06,240 --> 00:58:08,680
Speaker 1: I'm gonna get it wrong, and there's several layers to it.

1063
00:58:08,720 --> 00:58:10,680
Speaker 1: It's like number one, number two, there's a list of

1064
00:58:10,680 --> 00:58:15,120
Speaker 1: things where he's like, the observable universe is so vast

1065
00:58:15,680 --> 00:58:19,160
Speaker 1: that there must have evolved aliens on other and other

1066
00:58:19,200 --> 00:58:23,680
Speaker 1: star systems. However we have had no contact with them

1067
00:58:23,840 --> 00:58:26,880
Speaker 1: and no knowledge of them here, so there has to

1068
00:58:26,920 --> 00:58:29,680
Speaker 1: be He tried to narrow down all the possible solutions

1069
00:58:29,720 --> 00:58:33,280
Speaker 1: for why, given the chance of infinite evolutions over billions

1070
00:58:33,320 --> 00:58:36,000
Speaker 1: of years, why we don't see them all the time

1071
00:58:36,120 --> 00:58:38,520
Speaker 1: or have no knowledge of them, And that he has

1072
00:58:38,280 --> 00:58:43,000
Speaker 1: he lays out the possible answers, which is, we have

1073
00:58:43,320 --> 00:58:46,800
Speaker 1: seen them, but we forgot them. We have seen them

1074
00:58:47,200 --> 00:58:51,560
Speaker 1: and it's embedded in our you know, ancient stone engravings

1075
00:58:52,280 --> 00:58:55,960
Speaker 1: or uh there. It ranges up to possibilities such that

1076
00:58:56,040 --> 00:58:59,040
Speaker 1: the nature of life evolving on a planet is such

1077
00:58:59,080 --> 00:59:02,000
Speaker 1: that it only lacks for about a billion years before

1078
00:59:02,040 --> 00:59:05,560
Speaker 1: it makes itself extinct, so that no civilization ever has

1079
00:59:05,600 --> 00:59:08,480
Speaker 1: time to reach out right. He also says there's a

1080
00:59:08,480 --> 00:59:11,280
Speaker 1: possibility that they have made contact with us, but they

1081
00:59:11,360 --> 00:59:14,280
Speaker 1: hide from us, or they blend in with us, or

1082
00:59:14,320 --> 00:59:17,760
Speaker 1: they don't want to contact us because they're not interested

1083
00:59:17,760 --> 00:59:20,240
Speaker 1: in us, Like we're just like some idiots that they

1084
00:59:20,240 --> 00:59:21,080
Speaker 1: don't care about.

1085
00:59:20,840 --> 00:59:23,880
Speaker 2: What I think. I genuinely think that we are the

1086
00:59:23,920 --> 00:59:26,919
Speaker 2: bad neighborhood in the galaxy that they're like where, let's

1087
00:59:27,000 --> 00:59:29,840
Speaker 2: not go over there. This all the stuff that you're

1088
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Speaker 2: saying that I have heard about this, but I've never

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00:59:33,480 --> 00:59:36,280
Speaker 2: gotten into it too much because that stuff freaks me out,

1090
00:59:36,520 --> 00:59:38,919
Speaker 2: like gives me some kind of like anxiety.

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Speaker 1: The best fictional rendering I've seen, I don't. I am

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00:59:44,360 --> 00:59:47,000
Speaker 1: again agnostic. I don't deny what people claim to have

1093
00:59:47,040 --> 00:59:49,840
Speaker 1: seen unless there's somebody's gonna put me on a jury.

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00:59:49,880 --> 00:59:52,040
Speaker 1: You know, I don't have to make a decision, but

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00:59:53,640 --> 00:59:57,200
Speaker 1: I'm more interested in like the the future theory of

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00:59:57,840 --> 01:00:01,040
Speaker 1: aliens than I am about like individuals sightings of them.

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01:00:01,520 --> 01:00:06,720
Speaker 1: The best fiction I've seen recently science fiction exploring this

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01:00:06,840 --> 01:00:09,880
Speaker 1: idea is the Three Body Problem series by Shishin Lu,

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01:00:10,280 --> 01:00:13,400
Speaker 1: the Chinese science fiction writer. It's an attempt at a

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01:00:13,480 --> 01:00:18,640
Speaker 1: very realistic scenario of aliens as close as they could

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01:00:18,640 --> 01:00:21,640
Speaker 1: possibly be and be able to get to us, and

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01:00:21,680 --> 01:00:24,920
Speaker 1: they're hostile, but it takes so long for them to

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01:00:24,960 --> 01:00:28,120
Speaker 1: get to us that we have hundreds of years knowing

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01:00:28,160 --> 01:00:35,720
Speaker 1: that they're coming. Oh, it's a very interesting trilogy of books.

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01:00:36,640 --> 01:00:40,000
Speaker 2: Okay, let's just do Let's do two more that. I'm

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01:00:40,040 --> 01:00:42,240
Speaker 2: curious about your thoughts on bigfoot.

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Speaker 1: Uh, okay, this is going to be good boring to people.

1108
01:00:45,280 --> 01:00:48,520
Speaker 1: But you can't rule it out some sure ancient hominin

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01:00:48,600 --> 01:00:51,280
Speaker 1: species that didn't go extinct in the hills and forests

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01:00:51,320 --> 01:00:55,600
Speaker 1: of remote parts of the world. Very unlikely, definitely explainable.

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01:00:55,640 --> 01:00:57,880
Speaker 1: You can't rule it out very unlikely. You could probably

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01:00:58,000 --> 01:01:01,480
Speaker 1: usually explain it from deliberate hoaxes or somebody saw a

1113
01:01:01,480 --> 01:01:05,400
Speaker 1: moose I saw I'm serious, on two legs, I saw

1114
01:01:05,440 --> 01:01:09,800
Speaker 1: a moose at dusk either like right, around sunset or

1115
01:01:10,000 --> 01:01:11,800
Speaker 1: just after the sun had set. My brother and I

1116
01:01:11,840 --> 01:01:17,000
Speaker 1: saw a moose in what's the big National park in Wyoming, Montana?

1117
01:01:17,200 --> 01:01:18,120
Speaker 2: Is that Yosemite?

1118
01:01:18,240 --> 01:01:23,760
Speaker 1: No, the big one Yellowstone. Yell we were in was like,

1119
01:01:23,800 --> 01:01:26,040
Speaker 1: he doesn't even know what he's talking about. He doesn't

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Speaker 1: even know he can't even listen to this guy. No,

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01:01:28,640 --> 01:01:31,160
Speaker 1: we were in Yellowstone and we saw we saw this

1122
01:01:31,640 --> 01:01:35,040
Speaker 1: giant figure walk out of the trees and stop and

1123
01:01:35,120 --> 01:01:38,240
Speaker 1: kind of look at us, and you only see the

1124
01:01:38,280 --> 01:01:42,000
Speaker 1: front two feet because it's the rest of its hiding

1125
01:01:42,040 --> 01:01:45,480
Speaker 1: in the trees. And then you realize, oh, and it

1126
01:01:45,480 --> 01:01:48,160
Speaker 1: took us a minute to be like, what the fuck, Oh,

1127
01:01:48,200 --> 01:01:51,600
Speaker 1: it's a moose. It was a female moose without the antler.

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Speaker 2: Gee, how to make sure you cut the second part

1129
01:01:53,600 --> 01:01:57,760
Speaker 2: when we realized it was a moose. No, but that's uh.

1130
01:01:58,080 --> 01:02:01,520
Speaker 2: That probably does happen all the time to people because

1131
01:02:01,560 --> 01:02:04,560
Speaker 2: you see it like the black fur, and you're like.

1132
01:02:04,680 --> 01:02:07,320
Speaker 1: Be a bear, could be a bear. Moose are huge.

1133
01:02:07,320 --> 01:02:08,520
Speaker 1: People don't realize how big they are.

1134
01:02:08,560 --> 01:02:11,280
Speaker 2: Well, especially if you're seeing like those big huge horns

1135
01:02:11,320 --> 01:02:14,160
Speaker 2: and you're not processing that that's not like the head

1136
01:02:14,280 --> 01:02:15,760
Speaker 2: or something. You're just like all I see is a

1137
01:02:15,800 --> 01:02:18,160
Speaker 2: big creature. Yeah, how fascinating.

1138
01:02:18,400 --> 01:02:20,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, and it was a female moose, so there was

1139
01:02:20,440 --> 01:02:22,720
Speaker 1: no antlers, so it kind of just looked like a

1140
01:02:22,720 --> 01:02:25,160
Speaker 1: big floppy person walked out of the trees and just

1141
01:02:25,200 --> 01:02:28,360
Speaker 1: stopped there. Wow. And when we realized we were both

1142
01:02:28,360 --> 01:02:30,320
Speaker 1: talking about it, we were like, that would that what

1143
01:02:30,320 --> 01:02:33,120
Speaker 1: we just saw would easily be confused for a bigfoot.

1144
01:02:33,320 --> 01:02:36,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was just a big floppy lady moose.

1145
01:02:36,880 --> 01:02:41,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, you wonder like, Okay, the Neanderthals went extinct forty

1146
01:02:41,560 --> 01:02:45,880
Speaker 1: thousand years ago, they say, and the other adjacent human

1147
01:02:46,000 --> 01:02:49,440
Speaker 1: species to Homo sapiens around the world. I forget what

1148
01:02:49,480 --> 01:02:51,880
Speaker 1: the other ones are called, but the Neanderthals are the

1149
01:02:51,880 --> 01:02:56,280
Speaker 1: ones I know from Eurasia. I guess. Okay, so they

1150
01:02:56,320 --> 01:02:59,000
Speaker 1: went extinct or did they? We know that some of

1151
01:02:59,040 --> 01:03:01,880
Speaker 1: them that some people have up to, like you know

1152
01:03:01,920 --> 01:03:05,680
Speaker 1: a small percentage of their DNAs, like some of the

1153
01:03:05,720 --> 01:03:07,880
Speaker 1: Neanderthals intermarried.

1154
01:03:07,280 --> 01:03:09,200
Speaker 2: With some more than others.

1155
01:03:09,480 --> 01:03:13,000
Speaker 1: The Homo sapiens. Yeah, so yeah, sure, okay, Right, have

1156
01:03:13,120 --> 01:03:16,600
Speaker 1: we explored every cave? I don't know, we know we haven't.

1157
01:03:16,880 --> 01:03:19,960
Speaker 2: But this is where things get interesting.

1158
01:03:19,600 --> 01:03:22,520
Speaker 1: For me, is it's a long time to stay off

1159
01:03:22,560 --> 01:03:25,360
Speaker 1: the grid, though, forty thousand years commitment.

1160
01:03:25,840 --> 01:03:29,280
Speaker 2: If you are to believe that in the possibility of ghosts,

1161
01:03:29,280 --> 01:03:32,080
Speaker 2: I'm just people in general, not just see you specifically.

1162
01:03:32,520 --> 01:03:36,000
Speaker 2: And you know that there were these other versions of

1163
01:03:36,040 --> 01:03:40,440
Speaker 2: humans that once existed. Could it be a ghost version

1164
01:03:40,760 --> 01:03:45,920
Speaker 2: of them that sometimes people see and that's why we

1165
01:03:45,960 --> 01:03:47,440
Speaker 2: can never catch the Bigfoot?

1166
01:03:47,760 --> 01:03:50,960
Speaker 1: Wow, you're telling me that Bigfoot isn't real and that

1167
01:03:50,960 --> 01:03:52,320
Speaker 1: that's the key to the whole solution.

1168
01:03:52,560 --> 01:03:55,240
Speaker 2: I think Bigfoot's a ghost because people would have caught

1169
01:03:55,280 --> 01:03:55,800
Speaker 2: it by now.

1170
01:03:55,880 --> 01:03:57,160
Speaker 1: You grab it and it disappears.

1171
01:03:57,280 --> 01:03:59,720
Speaker 2: Yes, if it was you, you'd run up.

1172
01:04:00,280 --> 01:04:02,960
Speaker 1: Get out of here. I know that's how you get

1173
01:04:03,040 --> 01:04:03,880
Speaker 1: killed by a moose.

1174
01:04:06,880 --> 01:04:10,640
Speaker 2: I saw bears one time outside of LA I thought.

1175
01:04:10,400 --> 01:04:12,919
Speaker 1: He was trying to hurt me. By the way, Yeah,

1176
01:04:12,920 --> 01:04:18,680
Speaker 1: when I say moose, it was Bullwinkle from Rocky and Bullwinkle. No,

1177
01:04:19,440 --> 01:04:25,200
Speaker 1: they're just driving through Yellowstone. Don't murder that man. But

1178
01:04:25,400 --> 01:04:28,680
Speaker 1: it was dusk and he came up to try stuff.

1179
01:04:29,880 --> 01:04:33,760
Speaker 2: No. I saw three bears, not the gay kind.

1180
01:04:34,560 --> 01:04:34,840
Speaker 1: Sure.

1181
01:04:35,160 --> 01:04:39,400
Speaker 2: One time outside of LA I was in claire Monts.

1182
01:04:39,480 --> 01:04:42,880
Speaker 1: Were you breaking into bears cabins and like trying their

1183
01:04:42,920 --> 01:04:43,840
Speaker 1: porridge and stuff.

1184
01:04:44,400 --> 01:04:46,120
Speaker 2: There were three of them. One of it was a

1185
01:04:46,160 --> 01:04:50,120
Speaker 2: little too hot, one was too cold. No, there was

1186
01:04:50,920 --> 01:04:54,160
Speaker 2: I was leaving an event and the cars were all

1187
01:04:54,200 --> 01:04:56,680
Speaker 2: stopped leaving this parking lot, and I'm like, what's going on?

1188
01:04:57,520 --> 01:04:57,800
Speaker 3: Hurry?

1189
01:04:58,080 --> 01:05:00,800
Speaker 2: Yes, And then when we finally moved and got closer,

1190
01:05:00,880 --> 01:05:04,880
Speaker 2: we realized it was three bears in Claremont. In Claremont, California.

1191
01:05:05,000 --> 01:05:07,400
Speaker 1: I am near the Pomona Colleges. I suppose I.

1192
01:05:07,320 --> 01:05:12,080
Speaker 2: Suppose, so, okay, last one past lives.

1193
01:05:12,600 --> 01:05:15,920
Speaker 1: Oh yeah. I think this is a legitimate philosophical or

1194
01:05:15,920 --> 01:05:17,960
Speaker 1: religious belief. And I don't even think it's something kind

1195
01:05:18,000 --> 01:05:20,400
Speaker 1: of paranormal that needs to be doubted at all. Really,

1196
01:05:20,440 --> 01:05:22,840
Speaker 1: I think it's I think it's the makes the most

1197
01:05:22,840 --> 01:05:26,800
Speaker 1: sense as an explanation for everything. Well, okay, one version

1198
01:05:26,840 --> 01:05:29,640
Speaker 1: of it that I think is a very clean explanation

1199
01:05:29,840 --> 01:05:33,880
Speaker 1: for all life on Earth is what the way Alan

1200
01:05:33,920 --> 01:05:36,400
Speaker 1: Watts summarizes a lot of what he talks about, where

1201
01:05:37,520 --> 01:05:40,560
Speaker 1: you are something the whole universe is doing in the

1202
01:05:40,600 --> 01:05:43,000
Speaker 1: same way that a wave is something that the whole

1203
01:05:43,040 --> 01:05:47,040
Speaker 1: ocean is doing. So he says that you know, individual

1204
01:05:47,120 --> 01:05:52,680
Speaker 1: living things are just sort of outcroppings of powerful consciousness,

1205
01:05:52,720 --> 01:05:55,959
Speaker 1: like one living thing that experiences itself as separate living

1206
01:05:56,000 --> 01:06:02,160
Speaker 1: things and very similar to that to it or you know,

1207
01:06:02,840 --> 01:06:08,640
Speaker 1: sure different Wikipedia pages. But I do believe in past lives,

1208
01:06:08,680 --> 01:06:11,520
Speaker 1: and I believe that they're not limited to human beings,

1209
01:06:11,560 --> 01:06:16,600
Speaker 1: and I think I lean towards the possible idea that

1210
01:06:17,800 --> 01:06:20,840
Speaker 1: I don't know the details of how it works, but

1211
01:06:21,560 --> 01:06:23,680
Speaker 1: I have actually gotten into the nerdy side of this,

1212
01:06:23,800 --> 01:06:27,920
Speaker 1: where there's like you know, Christian theologians and also atheists

1213
01:06:27,960 --> 01:06:31,439
Speaker 1: that try to take apart reincarnation and be like, well,

1214
01:06:31,440 --> 01:06:34,760
Speaker 1: the population keeps growing, where are these souls coming from?

1215
01:06:34,800 --> 01:06:36,919
Speaker 1: Where are these minds coming from? And it's like, yeah,

1216
01:06:36,920 --> 01:06:40,640
Speaker 1: but there are you counting all the extinct creatures. And

1217
01:06:42,000 --> 01:06:45,280
Speaker 1: I think it's very possible that we are one thing

1218
01:06:45,400 --> 01:06:49,160
Speaker 1: that has to live through being every other, every possible

1219
01:06:49,200 --> 01:06:54,640
Speaker 1: living thing on the planet, and that that's how a deity,

1220
01:06:54,880 --> 01:06:58,680
Speaker 1: an eternal being or a semi eternal being like the

1221
01:06:58,680 --> 01:07:02,760
Speaker 1: Earth or the Sun, passes the time because it's fucking

1222
01:07:02,920 --> 01:07:04,720
Speaker 1: boring to live forever.

1223
01:07:05,560 --> 01:07:08,200
Speaker 2: So that it's like fun for them to yes.

1224
01:07:08,080 --> 01:07:10,800
Speaker 1: That you have to create something alive or you're just

1225
01:07:10,880 --> 01:07:14,960
Speaker 1: out there gurgling in space. Interest and it would be

1226
01:07:15,080 --> 01:07:18,400
Speaker 1: so boring, it would be torture, so that they create

1227
01:07:18,680 --> 01:07:21,000
Speaker 1: this life thing just to exist.

1228
01:07:21,640 --> 01:07:24,000
Speaker 2: I guess I did not realize that you.

1229
01:07:24,240 --> 01:07:25,640
Speaker 1: That's what I actually believe.

1230
01:07:26,200 --> 01:07:29,680
Speaker 2: I didn't realize, like when I had you come on here,

1231
01:07:29,800 --> 01:07:32,920
Speaker 2: that you have like read up on all this stuff

1232
01:07:33,000 --> 01:07:35,160
Speaker 2: and you have like you know so much about this.

1233
01:07:35,480 --> 01:07:38,520
Speaker 1: Well, some things I do and some things I bullshit

1234
01:07:38,640 --> 01:07:41,880
Speaker 1: very quickly. I'll leave it to your listeners to decide.

1235
01:07:43,280 --> 01:07:45,680
Speaker 2: No, that's great, this is great. This is a great

1236
01:07:45,680 --> 01:07:48,919
Speaker 2: way to end, because now my mind is thinking about

1237
01:07:48,920 --> 01:07:50,240
Speaker 2: a lot of things you've just said.

1238
01:07:50,640 --> 01:07:53,840
Speaker 1: I've summarized a lot of it very quickly. Yeah, there's

1239
01:07:53,880 --> 01:07:57,040
Speaker 1: the mechanics of how that works. You know, you might

1240
01:07:57,080 --> 01:07:59,880
Speaker 1: have like a short cycle where there's one sort of

1241
01:08:00,240 --> 01:08:05,240
Speaker 1: like spirit or consciousness that's being reincarnated on a short cycle.

1242
01:08:05,680 --> 01:08:09,080
Speaker 1: But then then overall there's these larger cycles where we

1243
01:08:09,240 --> 01:08:11,280
Speaker 1: might we might I can't say it for sure, we

1244
01:08:11,360 --> 01:08:12,800
Speaker 1: might all just be the same thing.

1245
01:08:13,360 --> 01:08:16,000
Speaker 2: I'm like, I'm very convinced of it too, because of

1246
01:08:16,560 --> 01:08:19,200
Speaker 2: stories I've heard, like even on this show, where it's

1247
01:08:19,280 --> 01:08:23,160
Speaker 2: like I can't think of any specific ones right now,

1248
01:08:23,200 --> 01:08:26,680
Speaker 2: but just this idea which by the way makes me

1249
01:08:26,760 --> 01:08:29,760
Speaker 2: not fear death anymore, because I'm like, oh, I think

1250
01:08:29,840 --> 01:08:32,280
Speaker 2: we just like we figure it out, we go somewhere,

1251
01:08:32,520 --> 01:08:34,120
Speaker 2: we do it again. I don't I don't know. Again,

1252
01:08:34,160 --> 01:08:36,400
Speaker 2: I don't know how it works either. But it's like

1253
01:08:36,920 --> 01:08:37,920
Speaker 2: it seems.

1254
01:08:37,800 --> 01:08:40,680
Speaker 1: You obviously don't remember it. That's that's one of the

1255
01:08:40,720 --> 01:08:44,000
Speaker 1: things about splitting up your life into other lives is

1256
01:08:44,000 --> 01:08:44,759
Speaker 1: that you don't remember.

1257
01:08:44,920 --> 01:08:47,960
Speaker 2: But it seems like there are sometimes blips or I

1258
01:08:47,960 --> 01:08:51,400
Speaker 2: don't know how to explain that when people say, you know,

1259
01:08:51,520 --> 01:08:55,280
Speaker 2: for example, we just covered this true story of this

1260
01:08:55,320 --> 01:08:59,400
Speaker 2: little boy that knew all this very specific information about

1261
01:08:59,400 --> 01:09:03,960
Speaker 2: being a man in Hollywood in the golden age of Hollywood.

1262
01:09:03,520 --> 01:09:04,320
Speaker 1: And then they looked at it.

1263
01:09:05,120 --> 01:09:06,720
Speaker 2: Yes, and they looked it up and it was not

1264
01:09:06,800 --> 01:09:09,480
Speaker 2: a famous man or whatever. They find all the details

1265
01:09:09,680 --> 01:09:13,040
Speaker 2: they knew what stready lived. This kid knew everything. And

1266
01:09:13,080 --> 01:09:15,639
Speaker 2: it's like, I don't know how that works. Where sometimes

1267
01:09:15,680 --> 01:09:17,519
Speaker 2: it's like, oh, whoops, I remember too much, Like I

1268
01:09:17,560 --> 01:09:18,080
Speaker 2: don't know how.

1269
01:09:18,360 --> 01:09:21,519
Speaker 1: I mean, arguably, Okay, maybe you picked up a weird

1270
01:09:21,560 --> 01:09:23,000
Speaker 1: journal that you found in a library.

1271
01:09:23,120 --> 01:09:26,840
Speaker 2: Oh, come on, that could be too Yeah, maybe you

1272
01:09:26,920 --> 01:09:29,080
Speaker 2: found a diary somewhere, but.

1273
01:09:29,320 --> 01:09:30,000
Speaker 1: Kids are clever.

1274
01:09:30,520 --> 01:09:32,960
Speaker 2: I know it's it's weird. No, this was when he

1275
01:09:33,080 --> 01:09:39,400
Speaker 2: was like four or five. I think anyway, young clever. Well,

1276
01:09:39,560 --> 01:09:43,080
Speaker 2: you're very clever, and I want people to see you

1277
01:09:43,120 --> 01:09:44,679
Speaker 2: live and to see your special.

1278
01:09:45,160 --> 01:09:48,360
Speaker 1: Yes, it's all available. And what we were rounding out

1279
01:09:48,360 --> 01:09:50,320
Speaker 1: the end of the year, the holiday season. What better

1280
01:09:50,360 --> 01:09:54,559
Speaker 1: time to gather around with your loved ones, your adult

1281
01:09:55,000 --> 01:10:00,479
Speaker 1: loved ones who enjoy ribled late night adult comedy and

1282
01:10:00,600 --> 01:10:03,600
Speaker 1: watch the Path of Most Resistance. Well, it's actually just

1283
01:10:03,680 --> 01:10:07,639
Speaker 1: Path of Most Resistance, my debut stand up comedy special.

1284
01:10:08,200 --> 01:10:11,160
Speaker 1: It's on eight hundred Pound Gorilla. It's available on their

1285
01:10:11,200 --> 01:10:13,960
Speaker 1: website and a number of platforms. It's most prominently available

1286
01:10:14,000 --> 01:10:17,400
Speaker 1: on YouTube. You can pan downloaded on eight hundred pound

1287
01:10:17,400 --> 01:10:19,400
Speaker 1: Gorilla dot com. You can watch it and stream it

1288
01:10:19,439 --> 01:10:25,280
Speaker 1: for YouTube for free, and it's widely available. It's funny

1289
01:10:25,320 --> 01:10:30,200
Speaker 1: at times and at other times it's it's wet. It's

1290
01:10:30,360 --> 01:10:32,920
Speaker 1: very wet. If you'll notice, I really sweat out through

1291
01:10:32,960 --> 01:10:37,519
Speaker 1: the whole show because it was September in Los Angeles,

1292
01:10:39,320 --> 01:10:43,400
Speaker 1: and I yeah, I'm a sweater, So yeah, don't expect

1293
01:10:43,560 --> 01:10:48,360
Speaker 1: a dry, snappy, powdered this is I'm raw Okay, I'm

1294
01:10:48,400 --> 01:10:49,519
Speaker 1: out there in the trenches.

1295
01:10:49,840 --> 01:10:50,960
Speaker 2: This is what we need.

1296
01:10:51,200 --> 01:10:52,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, I read and I put it in. I put

1297
01:10:52,920 --> 01:10:55,200
Speaker 1: in an effort the show. It's like, you know, it's

1298
01:10:55,240 --> 01:10:56,320
Speaker 1: like a sporting event to me.

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Speaker 2: And all these years you've been doing stand up and

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Speaker 2: this is the or first special.

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Speaker 1: Yeah it is. They wouldn't let me do it anywhere else,

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Speaker 1: so I just did it myself. Finally, that's the way

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Speaker 1: you have to do it today.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: But I'm very happy with how it turned out, and

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Speaker 1: I have a feeling you might like it. Path of

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Speaker 1: Most Resistance eight hundred Pound Gorilla YouTube And also if

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Speaker 1: you want to check out the old Underculture podcast that's there,

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Speaker 1: and then my stand up dates and so forth, you

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Speaker 1: can find on link tree or my website jamsdome dot com,

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Speaker 1: and on Instagram and blue Sky and threads. I'm generally

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Speaker 1: at Jaodomian or some variation of it.

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Speaker 2: Thanks James, thank you, Thank you so much. James Adomian.

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Speaker 2: What an incredible mind and talent. Well, it's holiday season.

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Speaker 2: I hope you're taking great care of yourself and enjoying

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Speaker 2: these last few weeks before we get a nice little break.

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Speaker 2: We will be taking a break over here on go.

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Speaker 2: Just to warn you a few weeks in advance, we

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Speaker 2: will be taking a break the week of Christmas and

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Speaker 2: New Year's but then will be back, don't you worry.

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Speaker 2: And I uh am already hard working on those episodes

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Speaker 2: and who we're gonna start off the New year with

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Speaker 2: a bang. I love you all, both living and dead.

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Speaker 2: But if I didn't ask you to haunt me, don't

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Speaker 2: haunt me. Okay, by this has been an exactly right production.

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Speaker 2: Want to share your paranormal experience on the podcast. I

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Speaker 2: read stories out loud and sometimes I'll even call you,

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Speaker 2: so email me at ghosted by Roz at gmail dot com.

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Speaker 2: You can send a DM or voice message to the

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Speaker 2: show's Instagram at ghosted by Roz. Give us a follow

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Speaker 2: while you're there, and follow me Roz on Instagram at

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Speaker 2: Roz Hernandez and on TikTok and Twitter at It's raz Hernandez.

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Speaker 2: My senior producer is the startling Jeeha Lee. Associate producer

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Speaker 2: is the alarming Christina Chamberlain. This episode was mixed and

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Speaker 2: sound designed by the eerie Edson Choi. My guest booker

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Speaker 2: is the petrifying Patrick Kottner. Additional production support from the

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Speaker 2: hair raising Hannah Kyle Crichton. My theme music is by

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Speaker 2: the spine Chilling Brendan Lynch Salomon, artwork by the Spooky

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Speaker 2: Vanessa Lilac. Photography by the Terrifying Elizabeth Karen. Executive produced

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Speaker 2: by the Chilling Karen Kilgaiff, the Spooky Georgia hart Stark,

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Speaker 2: and the Frightening Danielle Kramer,