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<v Speaker 2>All right, Welcome back, Episode three, Episode three. Let's get

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<v Speaker 2>to it. First of all, thank you for rocking with us.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you, I appreciate it. Okay, let's get into it.

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<v Speaker 2>So we're gonna talk about the biggest event in sports

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<v Speaker 2>that just recently passed, the Super Bowl. But we're gonna

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<v Speaker 2>take a different approach, take a different approach.

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<v Speaker 3>Last week, we talked about the marketing of the Super Bowl,

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<v Speaker 3>but another huge part of it is the amount of

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<v Speaker 3>money that's gambled on the game itself. So the Super

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<v Speaker 3>Bowl took in one hundred and thirty four million dollars

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<v Speaker 3>in bets on the game, prop bets, halftime things like that.

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<v Speaker 3>So we're gonna talk about sports betting on a national stage.

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<v Speaker 3>So we have seven states right now in the United

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<v Speaker 3>States that have sports betting, with New York being a

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<v Speaker 3>state that is on the fence about it. So you

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<v Speaker 3>have Nevada obviously we know about that. Las Vegas is

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<v Speaker 3>a huge see when it comes to gambling that starts

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<v Speaker 3>in the nineteen forties. You have Delaware, you have Pennsylvania,

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<v Speaker 3>New Mexico, New Jersey, and Pennsylvania, and the last one

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<v Speaker 3>is Mississippi. Mississippi. So you have seven states right now

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<v Speaker 3>that are engaged in it, and it's a huge revenue

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<v Speaker 3>gaining for the states, but for some reason New York

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<v Speaker 3>can't figure out how to get this correct. If we

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<v Speaker 3>go down the list of how much money is generated

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<v Speaker 3>by each state, for Nevada in the past six months,

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<v Speaker 3>so we're talking about from June twenty eighteen to December

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<v Speaker 3>twenty eighteen, as expected, they have the highest they grade.

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<v Speaker 3>They grossed in about two point two billion dollars in

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<v Speaker 3>that time. Delaware, a small state, grossed eighty four million,

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<v Speaker 3>with fifty percent of that revenue going directly to the state.

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<v Speaker 3>Mississippi generated one hundred and thirteen million, and Pennsylvania, which

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<v Speaker 3>started I think they got passed in October twenty seven,

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<v Speaker 3>twenty eighteen, they generated seventeen million dollars at the end

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<v Speaker 3>of twenty eighteen. And then you have RhE Island, which

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<v Speaker 3>is the small state in our Union, they generated about

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<v Speaker 3>two million dollars with fifty one percent of the revenue

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<v Speaker 3>going to the state. And I saved Jersey for last

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<v Speaker 3>because their story is pretty remarkable. Being at the proximity

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<v Speaker 3>to New York. They generated nine one hundred and twenty

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<v Speaker 3>eight million dollars in six months, so they almost did

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<v Speaker 3>a billion dollars in six months. And what's interesting is

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<v Speaker 3>that most of their.

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<v Speaker 2>When you say they, so who who gets them? That's

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<v Speaker 2>the state revenue? Who makes that money?

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<v Speaker 3>The state makes that Well that's the way that the

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<v Speaker 3>state made, but the stand companies made. So the companies

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<v Speaker 3>take a percentage, the state takes a percentage. New Jersey

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<v Speaker 3>didn't give the details on how much they they take

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<v Speaker 3>from it. So, like I.

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<v Speaker 2>Said, that's so that's a total revenue.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, total revenue. So, like, like I said, Delaware takes

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<v Speaker 3>fifty percent of the revenue. New Jersey didn't release it

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<v Speaker 3>the figures on how much they take from.

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<v Speaker 2>So Delaware takes fifty of the revenue tax. Yeah, that's interesting.

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<v Speaker 2>So let's not to cut you off. But so I

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<v Speaker 2>didn't I didn't realize that the tax that is paid

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<v Speaker 2>that gamble gambling institutions pay. Right. So we're in New York, right,

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<v Speaker 2>I know we have listeners all over, but we're in

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<v Speaker 2>New York. So there's New York gambling is not really

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<v Speaker 2>league legal right on that level. It's like slot machines

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<v Speaker 2>and stuff like that. So there's a casino where we live, right,

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<v Speaker 2>but they don't actually have card games. They just have

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<v Speaker 2>stop slot machines. So I heard I was at a

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<v Speaker 2>panel discussion and I heard one of the executives at

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<v Speaker 2>the casino speak and she was saying that they pay

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<v Speaker 2>somewhere between sixty and seventy percent of their revenue in

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<v Speaker 2>taxes to the state.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>So now you're saying that Delaware pays takes fifty percent. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>but she was saying, even but this is how much

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<v Speaker 2>money gambling makes. Even though they pay seventy percent of

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<v Speaker 2>their revenues to the state, it's still profitable for them, exactly.

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<v Speaker 2>That's how much money they've brand.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, So like that number, and now that we were

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<v Speaker 3>in twenty nineteen, you can just put that up to

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<v Speaker 3>one point two billion and six months. Right.

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<v Speaker 4>All they did was legalize it.

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<v Speaker 3>And the interesting I think I was saying about New

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<v Speaker 3>Jersey is that most of their betting takes place online.

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<v Speaker 3>So that's when you get sites in independent sites and

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<v Speaker 3>FANDU and DraftKings who are sports who actually now have

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<v Speaker 3>sports books, so people can literally gamble in their hands.

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<v Speaker 3>So I remember a time, so.

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<v Speaker 2>Just briefly explain that for somebody that might not be

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<v Speaker 2>a sports fan what that means.

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<v Speaker 3>So FanDuel is a is an app, and DraftKings both

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<v Speaker 3>of them are apps where you can it arise from

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<v Speaker 3>the daily Fantasy games. So people were playing Daily Fantasy

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<v Speaker 3>and putting money in to start pools and then they

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<v Speaker 3>fan do and DraftKings come up with an idea like, listen,

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<v Speaker 3>we can do this on a daily basis. You don't

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<v Speaker 3>have to wait a week. You can do it twice

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<v Speaker 3>in a day that they change the parameters. So I

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<v Speaker 3>can put a lineup together at for one o'clock games,

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<v Speaker 3>and depending on how those players that I pit perform,

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<v Speaker 3>I can win money. I can also do that at

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<v Speaker 3>the four thirty games. I could do it at the

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<v Speaker 3>Monday night.

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<v Speaker 2>So you're pretty much you're picking your team.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you're picking a team every time you bet, okay, Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>So from that they decide after New Jersey legalizes that

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<v Speaker 3>they're going to create their own sports book. So a

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<v Speaker 3>sports book is where you actually place bets on games.

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<v Speaker 3>So that's like a bookie. A bookie, right, you get

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<v Speaker 3>a ticket. So New Jersey has a sports book. The

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<v Speaker 3>interesting thing about New Jersey is that it's ten minutes

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<v Speaker 3>from New York City, right, so pending, well, let me

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<v Speaker 3>say at Crabit. So FanDuel is in charge of the

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<v Speaker 3>sports book at the Meadowlands, So Meadowlands for those of

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<v Speaker 3>you who aren't from the Tri City area. The Meadallands

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<v Speaker 3>is where the Giants and the Jets play met Life Stadium.

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<v Speaker 3>So the fan Do sports book is headquarters is at

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<v Speaker 3>the Medlands. So that's about fifteen minutes from New York City,

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<v Speaker 3>given if there's no driving, fifteen minutes. So what we're

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<v Speaker 3>seeing is a lot of people who want to place

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<v Speaker 3>bets that are from New York and can't do it.

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<v Speaker 3>They're driving to Jersey. They're placing that bets. They're staying

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<v Speaker 3>in Jersey to watch the games, spending capital at restaurants, right,

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<v Speaker 3>maybe gambling more while they're there, paying for gas while

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<v Speaker 3>they're there. All this money that's leaving New York is

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<v Speaker 3>going to Jersey to place bets.

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<v Speaker 2>So they track it via your phone, right, So the

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<v Speaker 2>GPS and your phone.

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<v Speaker 4>There's an interesting story about that.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, before we even get to that, it's important you're

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<v Speaker 2>being tracked at all times.

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<v Speaker 4>Absolutely.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, when I found out I was being tracked

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<v Speaker 2>at all times. This is kind of going off topic,

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<v Speaker 2>but it's interesting. So I used to have a BMW right,

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<v Speaker 2>and the car kept out having problems, so I had

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<v Speaker 2>to take it in to get service and they asked me,

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<v Speaker 2>They said, you don't do a lot long distance driving,

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<v Speaker 2>do you. And I looked at him, like, how do

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<v Speaker 2>you know that? He's like, we looked at the GPS

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<v Speaker 2>and that's why. I'm like, they really know where my

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<v Speaker 2>car is at at all times. So if you ever

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<v Speaker 2>did something and you didn't you can't say you wasn't

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<v Speaker 2>there because your car is there. Because a thing with

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<v Speaker 2>your cell phone.

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<v Speaker 3>It's like when you drive now and your watch says

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<v Speaker 3>eight minutes away from home, I'm.

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<v Speaker 2>Like, all that is all that? So exactly your iPhone,

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<v Speaker 2>I watch, all of that has a GPS built in,

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<v Speaker 2>so they know where you are at all times.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. So the crazy part is, and going back to

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<v Speaker 3>that GPS thing, is that in I think twenty sixteen,

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<v Speaker 3>the Attorney General for the state of New York I

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<v Speaker 3>believe Sneyderman was his name. He says that this is illegal.

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<v Speaker 3>You can't use FanDuel. This is illegal. We don't know

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<v Speaker 3>how to regulate it yet. So DraftKings and fan do

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<v Speaker 3>gets suspended, so you can't use it in New York State.

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<v Speaker 3>So I recall I remember people like listening like, Yo,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm gonna drive to Connecticut because we live pretty close

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<v Speaker 3>to Connecticut and we look pretty close in New Jersey.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm gonna take that ten minute drive. I'm gonna put

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<v Speaker 3>my lines in because my GPS will show that I'm

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<v Speaker 3>in Connecticut and then come back home.

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<v Speaker 2>So what would happen if you try to place it

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<v Speaker 2>bet in New York? It wouldn't go through just because GPS.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you get the message like you are not in

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<v Speaker 3>a state that allows fan do to be played.

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<v Speaker 2>If you if you take one step into Connecticut, you're good.

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<v Speaker 2>The GPS changes.

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<v Speaker 3>I had a friend of mine call his sister in

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<v Speaker 3>Las Vegas to log into his account to say, listen,

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<v Speaker 3>can you put a line in for me? Please? It

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<v Speaker 3>was that serious, right, So that got lifted over I

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<v Speaker 3>believe two thousand, summer twenty seventeen. So now you can

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<v Speaker 3>use FanDuel for the daily fantasy portion, but you can't

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<v Speaker 3>place the sports. You can't use the sports booking part

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<v Speaker 3>of the app, not yet, which I think will change.

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<v Speaker 3>I think we'll change when we have a governor. Now

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<v Speaker 3>who is I think on board with that billion dollar

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<v Speaker 3>industry easily billions bigger than New York. Yeah, all over America,

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<v Speaker 3>right all over the world. Sports betting billions, people who

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<v Speaker 3>are betting on everything, point spreads, point spreads. I just

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<v Speaker 3>saw a prop bet and it was because the NBA

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<v Speaker 3>All Star Game they picked the captains recently, and it

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<v Speaker 3>was like, there's a prop bet for who the first

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<v Speaker 3>pick is going to be, right, Like James Harden is

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<v Speaker 3>the favorite to be the number one pick. Like you

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<v Speaker 3>can bet on that, right, Like that's crazy, Right, Who's

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<v Speaker 3>gonna win a coin to us? Who's gonna get the

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<v Speaker 3>first first down, who's the first catch, who's gonna make

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<v Speaker 3>the first three point in the game? Like all these

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<v Speaker 3>things are being bet on, and they seem like so trivial,

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<v Speaker 3>and it's like, wait, that makes sense. People are betting

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<v Speaker 3>on them every day. So New Jersey billion dollars six months.

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<v Speaker 3>What's the New York's response. I think we'll see a

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<v Speaker 3>change within the next year. Right, we get a new

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<v Speaker 3>Attorney general and Leticia James, who now is in charge

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<v Speaker 3>of how to regulate these things, right, so she can

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<v Speaker 3>control Hey, we get that money we regulated, here's where

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<v Speaker 3>we can spread it and hopefully and I remember you

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<v Speaker 3>posted something about the lottery and like how it was

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<v Speaker 3>originally supposed to be for schools. Right, maybe that's where

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<v Speaker 3>this heads. Right, we get another source of revenue for

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<v Speaker 3>this state, and now we could the funds could be

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<v Speaker 3>appropriated in the right way. That's my hope and hopefully

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<v Speaker 3>that happens.

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<v Speaker 2>Hold your breath.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm fighting for education. You know that. I'm always gonna

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<v Speaker 3>fight for that.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, all right, okay, okay, So sports batting billion dollar industry,

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<v Speaker 2>billion dollar industry. So keeping it in sports, we were

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<v Speaker 2>actually had a conversation last week about George Foreman, right,

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<v Speaker 2>m hm. So George Forman is interesting for a few

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<v Speaker 2>different reasons. Yeah, right, as anybody that followed me knows,

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<v Speaker 2>I like to do case studies or not just businesses,

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<v Speaker 2>but individuals as well, entrepreneurs and like the backstories on

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<v Speaker 2>deals and stuff like that. So George for what is

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<v Speaker 2>he known for?

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<v Speaker 3>George, He's a generational personality, right, Like I said, like,

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<v Speaker 3>depending on what generation you come from will determine on

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<v Speaker 3>how you remember George Foreman. So like my dad and

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<v Speaker 3>your dad, they know him as the great boxer, this

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<v Speaker 3>Hall of fame guy who gets roped by Muhammad Ali

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<v Speaker 3>and he's known for that for a generation. Then the

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<v Speaker 3>next generation, I feel like our generation to a certain extent,

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<v Speaker 3>is like, he's the guy who's out of shape, why

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<v Speaker 3>is he still boxing? Becomes the commentator for boxing on HBO,

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<v Speaker 3>and at some point he gets a sitcom and it's like,

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<v Speaker 3>all right, this is who is this guy? And then

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<v Speaker 3>the next generation of people like with like tail end

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<v Speaker 3>and that he's known as the guy who's on the

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<v Speaker 3>infomercials selling a product.

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<v Speaker 2>Selling a product. Yeah, so this is the way.

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<v Speaker 3>This is.

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<v Speaker 4>A legendary product.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, So I gotta tell his story. I gotta tell

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<v Speaker 2>his story in full detail. So George Foreman was a

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<v Speaker 2>legendary boxer, right, who in the seventies. He retired from

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<v Speaker 2>boxing in nineteen seventy seven, Right, first time he from

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<v Speaker 2>box in nineteen seventy seven. Yeah, he had five million

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<v Speaker 2>dollars at the time of his retirement, which is equal

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<v Speaker 2>to twenty million today.

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<v Speaker 4>That's not bad for a boxing not bad for anybody.

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<v Speaker 2>In ten years. By nineteen eighty seven, he was flat broke.

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<v Speaker 2>In his words, he's flat broke. He made some bad investments.

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<v Speaker 2>You know how athletes go broke. There's a long list

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<v Speaker 2>of reasons why Flat broke in nineteen eighty seven, which

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<v Speaker 2>forced him back into fighting. So he comes out of retirement.

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<v Speaker 4>It actually wins, No.

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<v Speaker 2>He does win, but he so. In nineteen ninety four

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<v Speaker 2>he became champion.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, he beat Michael Moore.

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<v Speaker 2>I think so the oldest heavyweight champion at that time

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<v Speaker 2>in history, forty five years old.

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<v Speaker 4>It might still be that belly out World.

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<v Speaker 2>Nineteen ninety four, he becomes a heavyweight champion of forty

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<v Speaker 2>five years old. Another interesting thing happened in nineteen ninety

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<v Speaker 2>four though, right, So in nineteen ninety four, not only

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<v Speaker 2>is he the heavyweight champ, but Hawk Hogan is the

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<v Speaker 2>ww F cham WWF. People don't even know what WWF.

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<v Speaker 2>It's called w W.

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<v Speaker 3>Now now, Yeah, they had the lawsuit with the world

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<v Speaker 3>what was it the It was an animal organization that

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<v Speaker 3>had that name, and they lost the lawsuits and that

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<v Speaker 3>the teams into w W.

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<v Speaker 2>E anybody that grew up in the eighties or the nineties,

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<v Speaker 2>So I grew up in the nineties, right, anybody that

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<v Speaker 2>grew up in the nineties. Wrestling played a major part,

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<v Speaker 2>huge in the culture. Absolutely culture your favorite uh undertaker?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I like to undertake it Ultimate Warriors. He played

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<v Speaker 3>the part he played Ultimate war past rest in peace.

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<v Speaker 3>So hawk Hogan icon absolutely.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think people fully understand how iconic Hawk Hogan was,

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<v Speaker 2>Like you actually had to be living in that moment

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<v Speaker 2>the Beatles.

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<v Speaker 4>It was a hope, like it was a real thing.

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<v Speaker 3>Like I remember watching that and that was when wrestling

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<v Speaker 3>came on at Saturdays at eight o'clock and then it

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<v Speaker 3>came on as Sundays at twelve like before it was

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<v Speaker 3>a Monday night rule.

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<v Speaker 2>Different.

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<v Speaker 3>This guy was like Hawk Hogan superstar. Different superstar Michael,

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<v Speaker 3>He's Michael Jordan of wrestling. Yes, him and Andre Giant.

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<v Speaker 3>They have that in like the that that match at

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<v Speaker 3>Masters Garden as one of the biggest moments in the

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<v Speaker 3>history of New York City. Like when he picks up

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<v Speaker 3>the all like Monstrous Andrea Giant and does like the

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<v Speaker 3>slam on. It's like the one of the best memorial

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<v Speaker 3>moments in the history of the Masters reguard.

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<v Speaker 2>Hawk legend legend. So all right, So nineteen ninety four,

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<v Speaker 2>they're both champs, right, they also both have the same

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<v Speaker 2>business manager. Oh okay, right, So hawk Hogan at the

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<v Speaker 2>time is bigger than George Foreman. So the business manageher

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<v Speaker 2>meets with Hawk Hogan. He has three products for him

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<v Speaker 2>to endorse. He offered him three products for endorse. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>he had a pick one. One was a grill, one

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<v Speaker 2>was a meatball maker, and one was a blender. Right,

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<v Speaker 2>he chose the meatball maker. The meatball maker of the

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<v Speaker 2>name is the Hawkermania meatball Maker. Have you heard of it?

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<v Speaker 2>I'd never heard of it.

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<v Speaker 4>I didn't even know.

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<v Speaker 2>No, he chose the Hawkermania meatball Maker. That's what he chose. Now.

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<v Speaker 2>He told the agent, get somebody else, get one of

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<v Speaker 2>your other clients to endorse the other the grill and

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<v Speaker 2>the blender. So at the time, George Foreman was eating

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<v Speaker 2>two hamburgers before every fight. It was like a big thing.

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<v Speaker 2>So he thought that it would be a perfect person

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<v Speaker 2>to endorse the grill. So George Foreman agrees to endorse

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<v Speaker 2>the grill. Right, So he makes a deal with the

0:17:57.720 --> 0:18:04.720
<v Speaker 2>grill company to get forty profit of every grill sold,

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<v Speaker 2>every grill.

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<v Speaker 3>So it's like a masterpiece.

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<v Speaker 2>And his name was on it, which we know as

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<v Speaker 2>the Form and Grill. Right, he makes up to eight

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<v Speaker 2>million dollars a month with the forman Grill. He made

0:18:20.680 --> 0:18:23.960
<v Speaker 2>so much money with the form and Grill that eventually

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<v Speaker 2>the people they realized they made a bad deal because

0:18:27.320 --> 0:18:30.159
<v Speaker 2>they gave him too much, so they say, Okay, we

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<v Speaker 2>got to get away from this. So in nineteen ninety

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<v Speaker 2>nine they make a deal with him. They pay him

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<v Speaker 2>one hundred and thirty eight million to buy him out

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<v Speaker 2>and to use his name in perpetuity.

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<v Speaker 2>With the product forever. He takes a deal, So he

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<v Speaker 2>made over two hundred and fifty million when you add

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<v Speaker 2>the money that he made before nineteen ninety nine and

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<v Speaker 2>then the lump sum one hundred and thirty eight million

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<v Speaker 2>payout that they brought him out with in nineteen ninety nine.

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<v Speaker 2>Stop game change that this hereuysn't looked back since I.

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<v Speaker 3>Mean, and those grills, I mean, every household has no.

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<v Speaker 2>It's one of the best inventions ever made that made like.

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<v Speaker 4>The list of best invasion.

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<v Speaker 3>No, it's definitely top three because when I was in college,

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<v Speaker 3>I literally only cooked on the Former Girl. Yeah, I

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<v Speaker 3>know a bunch of people who became chefs off to

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<v Speaker 3>the formula. It was ridiculous.

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<v Speaker 2>You can cook anything on the Former Girl.

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<v Speaker 4>We went from Gavin to Hamburgers at eight at a time.

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<v Speaker 2>You can cook corn for the Former Girl.

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<v Speaker 3>It was ridiculous and it was easy to clean. It

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<v Speaker 3>was perfect. It was a perfect problem.

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<v Speaker 2>So do we blame hawk Hogan or do we just

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<v Speaker 2>chalk it up to just look because who knows the

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<v Speaker 2>grill is going to do that?

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<v Speaker 3>Right? No, I don't think we could have predicted that.

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<v Speaker 3>No one could have predicted that, right, Like he would

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<v Speaker 3>have done that if he had known the grill. But

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<v Speaker 3>could you imagine the whole Cogan grill?

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<v Speaker 2>Little known historical fact, and that's why we're here. Little

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<v Speaker 2>known historical facts like that changed the cost of history.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, Okay, okay, all right, So let's change change topics, lanes,

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<v Speaker 2>let's change lanes, and let's talk about the art world.

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<v Speaker 2>So this topic is something that is near and dear

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<v Speaker 2>to my heart. A little known fact is that so

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<v Speaker 2>I used to play sports. Yeah, but my first passion

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<v Speaker 2>was art first love. So I used to draw, and

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<v Speaker 2>I actually was in a gifted and talented art class.

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<v Speaker 2>I could have actually probably taken art further than I did,

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<v Speaker 2>but I got distracted by other things. So art is

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<v Speaker 2>something that I've always had a passion for. But we're

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<v Speaker 2>going to talk about the business side of art.

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<v Speaker 4>The business side, Yeah, absolutely, So.

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<v Speaker 3>People don't realize that art as an item is something

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<v Speaker 3>that appreciates and value, which means it gains value over time.

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<v Speaker 2>It's an investment.

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<v Speaker 4>It's an investment.

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<v Speaker 3>So when we hear I bought that artwork for one million,

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<v Speaker 3>two years later, it's worth two million. A couple years

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<v Speaker 3>later's worth eight million. I can't wait to get that

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<v Speaker 3>to my chl. What Jay saying in that line, and

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<v Speaker 3>we reference to him again, is that this is an

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<v Speaker 3>investment that I purchased at a price which will gain

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<v Speaker 3>value a year, eight years, a great gains even more.

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<v Speaker 3>But wait till my children get older and can take

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<v Speaker 3>that asset and now maybe they can use it for

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<v Speaker 3>my entiy game. So that artwork that he's talking about

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<v Speaker 3>could be fifty million dollars by the time his children

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<v Speaker 3>of the age, and that's not something that we think

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<v Speaker 3>about investing in.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not and it's something that I want to even

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<v Speaker 2>tie it even closer to the culture because a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of times people so when Jacobseha says a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>things that goes over people's heads, right, So like when

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<v Speaker 2>he says, I got Bosquiocht and a lobby on my spot,

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<v Speaker 2>or when he says it ain't hard to tell I'm

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<v Speaker 2>the new John Michelle. He talking about John Michelle boskiat right.

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<v Speaker 2>So when you hear these names, it's like, especially John Michelle,

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<v Speaker 2>he might not know that that's John Michelle. You're thinking

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<v Speaker 2>probably a French painter that lived in the nineteen early

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<v Speaker 2>nineteen hundreds, maybe eighteen hundreds, maybe even seventeen hundreds. And

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<v Speaker 2>it's like, how does that? What is that?

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<v Speaker 3>You know?

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<v Speaker 4>Like, I think that definitely goes over people.

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<v Speaker 2>But the crazy thing about it is that when he's

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<v Speaker 2>referencing Bosquiyacht, people don't understand like that that's hip hop

0:25:14.960 --> 0:25:18.040
<v Speaker 2>culture absolutely. Just so this dude is from Brooklyn. He's

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<v Speaker 2>from Brooklyn. He is Haitian. That's why his name is Gene.

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<v Speaker 2>That's why he has a French name right right, because

0:25:25.440 --> 0:25:25.959
<v Speaker 2>he's Haitian.

0:25:26.000 --> 0:25:27.480
<v Speaker 4>And then last name he's.

0:25:27.280 --> 0:25:29.880
<v Speaker 2>Half Haitian half Puerto Rican. Actually yeah, but that's why.

0:25:30.400 --> 0:25:33.960
<v Speaker 2>So you hear ge Michelle Bosciot, you're not thinking a

0:25:34.000 --> 0:25:37.800
<v Speaker 2>black kid from Brooklyn, No, but that's the backstory on

0:25:37.920 --> 0:25:43.320
<v Speaker 2>he's Haitian. So he starts in the eighties, not even

0:25:43.359 --> 0:25:45.760
<v Speaker 2>that long ago, in the eighties as a graffiti.

0:25:45.400 --> 0:25:48.680
<v Speaker 4>Artist, right seventies and into the eighties.

0:25:48.400 --> 0:25:51.640
<v Speaker 2>Seventies and into the eighties as a graffiti artist, right

0:25:52.040 --> 0:25:56.760
<v Speaker 2>dropped out of high school. Yep, unfortunately, So he made

0:25:56.800 --> 0:25:58.760
<v Speaker 2>he made his name for himself in the Lower East

0:25:58.800 --> 0:26:00.359
<v Speaker 2>He's from Brooklyn, but he made his name herself on

0:26:00.400 --> 0:26:03.240
<v Speaker 2>the Lower east Side. Now, New York, anybody that's not familiar,

0:26:03.280 --> 0:26:06.000
<v Speaker 2>New York was a different place in the eighties than

0:26:06.040 --> 0:26:11.200
<v Speaker 2>it is now, absolutely completely different, right, the Lower East Side,

0:26:11.480 --> 0:26:15.600
<v Speaker 2>Alphabet City was a different place than it is now.

0:26:16.359 --> 0:26:25.399
<v Speaker 2>So the street art was huge, graffiti trained, graffiti, everything huge.

0:26:25.600 --> 0:26:30.320
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, right, So he starts with that, and then he

0:26:30.440 --> 0:26:33.720
<v Speaker 3>blows up and becomes the toast of New York and

0:26:33.760 --> 0:26:37.199
<v Speaker 3>becomes the hottest artists in this I think he's on

0:26:37.240 --> 0:26:39.440
<v Speaker 3>the cover up Time magazine or one of these publications

0:26:39.480 --> 0:26:42.000
<v Speaker 3>where this is the new face of art, Like this

0:26:42.119 --> 0:26:45.480
<v Speaker 3>kid is brilliant twenty two, twenty three at the time,

0:26:45.720 --> 0:26:48.679
<v Speaker 3>Like he's a face of art now, like people are

0:26:48.720 --> 0:26:53.239
<v Speaker 3>putting him in museums with Warhall now at twenty in

0:26:53.240 --> 0:26:53.880
<v Speaker 3>his twenties.

0:26:53.920 --> 0:26:54.400
<v Speaker 2>Prodigy.

0:26:54.480 --> 0:26:56.400
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, absolutely, prodigy absolutely.

0:26:56.480 --> 0:27:01.840
<v Speaker 2>Unfortunately passed away from overdose twenty seven years old in

0:27:01.920 --> 0:27:02.640
<v Speaker 2>nineteen eighty.

0:27:02.480 --> 0:27:06.880
<v Speaker 3>Eight, different time, eighties, New York City. But ain't even

0:27:07.000 --> 0:27:10.320
<v Speaker 3>The interesting thing more so is that in twenty seventeen

0:27:10.960 --> 0:27:14.080
<v Speaker 3>his painting sold for one hundred and ten million.

0:27:14.240 --> 0:27:16.880
<v Speaker 2>Now, the reason why that's interested is that that made

0:27:17.000 --> 0:27:23.600
<v Speaker 2>him the highest well he's the number one US painter

0:27:23.960 --> 0:27:28.520
<v Speaker 2>with the highest selling painting ever. He has the highest

0:27:28.840 --> 0:27:32.040
<v Speaker 2>selling painting for a US painter ever for one hundred

0:27:32.040 --> 0:27:35.399
<v Speaker 2>and ten million. So you got a kid from Brooklyn

0:27:36.320 --> 0:27:41.439
<v Speaker 2>who is a graffiti artist as Core dropped out of

0:27:41.480 --> 0:27:46.040
<v Speaker 2>high school, was living on the street. That is the

0:27:46.080 --> 0:27:51.520
<v Speaker 2>most successful US painter and one of the most successful

0:27:51.840 --> 0:27:56.800
<v Speaker 2>artists in world history. That's an interesting.

0:27:56.359 --> 0:28:00.240
<v Speaker 3>Story, legendary, just even a backstory like that. That's song

0:28:00.320 --> 0:28:03.960
<v Speaker 3>that we're talking about, the Picasso Baby song. It inspired

0:28:04.040 --> 0:28:07.040
<v Speaker 3>us so much that like during my summer program. Like

0:28:07.119 --> 0:28:09.360
<v Speaker 3>our team was like, listen, we're gonna use this song

0:28:09.440 --> 0:28:11.439
<v Speaker 3>and we're gonna go to the Museum of Mind Art

0:28:12.240 --> 0:28:15.280
<v Speaker 3>and we're gonna teach them about just from these lyrics,

0:28:15.600 --> 0:28:17.639
<v Speaker 3>about the paintings that he's talking about. Because most of

0:28:17.680 --> 0:28:20.680
<v Speaker 3>the artists that Jay's talking about, whether it's is Bosky

0:28:21.000 --> 0:28:25.000
<v Speaker 3>or is Warhol orso Picasso or is Jeff Coon Balloon,

0:28:25.119 --> 0:28:27.199
<v Speaker 3>so he's talking about, they're in that museum. So we

0:28:27.280 --> 0:28:30.720
<v Speaker 3>literally put together a scavenger hunt in the museum for

0:28:30.800 --> 0:28:34.720
<v Speaker 3>the kids to become familiar with the art right from

0:28:34.800 --> 0:28:36.879
<v Speaker 3>Jay and the artists that he's speaking of.

0:28:37.040 --> 0:28:40.440
<v Speaker 4>Like, that's how much it impacted us. So like that's legendary, No,

0:28:40.560 --> 0:28:40.920
<v Speaker 4>it is.

0:28:40.960 --> 0:28:43.440
<v Speaker 2>And like you said, it's interesting because we talked about investments.

0:28:43.480 --> 0:28:46.720
<v Speaker 2>That's an interesting investment that the average person doesn't think

0:28:46.720 --> 0:28:49.840
<v Speaker 2>about art, investing in art, right. But so that's about

0:28:49.840 --> 0:28:51.480
<v Speaker 2>when Chason that you said, I line one million and

0:28:51.560 --> 0:28:53.400
<v Speaker 2>then two years later's worth two million. I can't wait

0:28:53.440 --> 0:28:55.800
<v Speaker 2>to give it to my children's That's that's even deeper

0:28:55.800 --> 0:28:57.480
<v Speaker 2>than just art because it's like, Okay, I'm leaving a

0:28:57.560 --> 0:29:00.800
<v Speaker 2>legacy to my kids, right and I'm teaching them about investing, right,

0:29:01.040 --> 0:29:03.600
<v Speaker 2>But art isn't invest But I want to tie it

0:29:03.600 --> 0:29:05.360
<v Speaker 2>in too because you know, a lot of times we're

0:29:05.400 --> 0:29:09.520
<v Speaker 2>talented people, right, and whether we take photos or whether

0:29:09.520 --> 0:29:11.560
<v Speaker 2>we draw, whether we paint, a lot of times we

0:29:11.600 --> 0:29:14.880
<v Speaker 2>don't fully understand the value of what we are doing

0:29:14.920 --> 0:29:18.280
<v Speaker 2>because we are artists, right. And it's like I would

0:29:18.280 --> 0:29:22.480
<v Speaker 2>have never I guarantee you he Boskiyot never thought his

0:29:22.560 --> 0:29:25.160
<v Speaker 2>painting would self for a one hundred and ten million

0:29:25.160 --> 0:29:28.040
<v Speaker 2>dollars or a painting probably con't fail me, right, So

0:29:28.080 --> 0:29:30.440
<v Speaker 2>it's like, so, but the interesting thing with artist that

0:29:30.640 --> 0:29:35.680
<v Speaker 2>is whatever somebody thinks it's worth, right, So it's important

0:29:35.760 --> 0:29:39.560
<v Speaker 2>that you know you're worth as an artist, right Because

0:29:39.560 --> 0:29:41.600
<v Speaker 2>like I said, there's a lot of people in our

0:29:41.640 --> 0:29:45.560
<v Speaker 2>community that are talented, but do they fully understand that

0:29:46.520 --> 0:29:50.640
<v Speaker 2>what they're doing is valuable. Like somebody might look at

0:29:50.640 --> 0:29:53.479
<v Speaker 2>what they're doing and say that's trash. Somebody else might

0:29:53.480 --> 0:29:54.600
<v Speaker 2>look at they do it and say, I'll give you

0:29:54.640 --> 0:29:56.240
<v Speaker 2>a million dollars for that, right.

0:29:56.800 --> 0:29:59.360
<v Speaker 3>And we can't mention art, especially in hip hop culture,

0:29:59.360 --> 0:30:02.400
<v Speaker 3>without measuring us. So what he's doing with the no

0:30:02.440 --> 0:30:07.240
<v Speaker 3>commissions campaign, like that's brilliant, right, a lot of times

0:30:08.440 --> 0:30:12.280
<v Speaker 3>artists create these paintings and have to put them display.

0:30:11.920 --> 0:30:12.960
<v Speaker 4>Them in a gallery.

0:30:13.520 --> 0:30:15.080
<v Speaker 3>And what people don't realize is that they have to

0:30:15.080 --> 0:30:18.600
<v Speaker 3>pay a commission to the gallery to display the art.

0:30:18.680 --> 0:30:21.000
<v Speaker 3>And it's like they lose money just because they want

0:30:21.000 --> 0:30:23.880
<v Speaker 3>to display it in this this setting. And what he's

0:30:23.920 --> 0:30:26.200
<v Speaker 3>doing is like, listen, we're going to bake the setting

0:30:26.600 --> 0:30:29.080
<v Speaker 3>and there's no commission, Like you get one hundred percent

0:30:29.160 --> 0:30:31.840
<v Speaker 3>of what somebody paid for that, which is dope because

0:30:31.840 --> 0:30:35.280
<v Speaker 3>he only not only does he again teach about art

0:30:35.480 --> 0:30:36.400
<v Speaker 3>in a sense.

0:30:36.160 --> 0:30:37.240
<v Speaker 4>But he's also teaching education.

0:30:37.240 --> 0:30:40.280
<v Speaker 3>I'm like, listen, get one hundred percent of what you're working, Like,

0:30:40.360 --> 0:30:44.680
<v Speaker 3>why pay this middleman because you're using this gallery?

0:30:44.920 --> 0:30:45.080
<v Speaker 4>Right.

0:30:45.120 --> 0:30:47.280
<v Speaker 3>The gallery may help prestiege, but the art is what

0:30:47.480 --> 0:30:48.440
<v Speaker 3>makes people come up.

0:30:48.480 --> 0:30:50.360
<v Speaker 2>And it's similar to this, so it all ties into

0:30:50.480 --> 0:30:52.600
<v Speaker 2>even like the record label right where it's like, say,

0:30:52.560 --> 0:30:54.400
<v Speaker 2>if this is art, why do I need to go

0:30:54.440 --> 0:30:57.080
<v Speaker 2>to Southerby's or one of these houses to place my

0:30:57.280 --> 0:31:00.880
<v Speaker 2>art so they can get a huge commission and they

0:31:00.880 --> 0:31:03.080
<v Speaker 2>could value it and they can say this is worth

0:31:03.120 --> 0:31:05.080
<v Speaker 2>this much and have an option on it. It's like

0:31:05.120 --> 0:31:06.880
<v Speaker 2>this is our same thing with music. Right, Why do

0:31:06.960 --> 0:31:08.800
<v Speaker 2>I have to go to a record label and have

0:31:09.080 --> 0:31:12.080
<v Speaker 2>them take a piece of it and have them display

0:31:12.120 --> 0:31:17.960
<v Speaker 2>it on their catalog and I appear courtesy of a

0:31:18.000 --> 0:31:20.280
<v Speaker 2>record company, you know what I mean? Like, and that's it.

0:31:20.400 --> 0:31:22.280
<v Speaker 2>So it all ties in. So when people think about art,

0:31:22.280 --> 0:31:25.000
<v Speaker 2>a lot of times they don't fully understand how how

0:31:25.160 --> 0:31:31.240
<v Speaker 2>much art is valued. It's it's it's actually mind blowing

0:31:31.240 --> 0:31:32.560
<v Speaker 2>when you when you do the numbers on it.

0:31:32.640 --> 0:31:35.000
<v Speaker 3>And we got the two biggest art stories of last year,

0:31:35.040 --> 0:31:37.600
<v Speaker 3>I would argue that as a number one, the bank

0:31:37.600 --> 0:31:40.000
<v Speaker 3>Ski story.

0:31:40.040 --> 0:31:44.160
<v Speaker 2>Bankski is a legend. So Bankski is a street artist

0:31:44.520 --> 0:31:47.360
<v Speaker 2>who goes all around the world and he just pops

0:31:47.400 --> 0:31:51.840
<v Speaker 2>up and he'll just he'll paint these these these paintings

0:31:51.880 --> 0:31:56.560
<v Speaker 2>on buildings, on sidewalks, on streets anywhere. But nobody ever knows,

0:31:56.720 --> 0:31:58.960
<v Speaker 2>you know, who he is. See we would like to

0:31:58.960 --> 0:32:01.720
<v Speaker 2>todde coach, he right doesn't do that. So one of

0:32:01.760 --> 0:32:05.120
<v Speaker 2>the illest things ever was when ghost Face Killer first

0:32:05.120 --> 0:32:08.200
<v Speaker 2>came out right with the Wu Tang because nobody saw.

0:32:08.120 --> 0:32:09.280
<v Speaker 4>Us face that video.

0:32:09.320 --> 0:32:12.560
<v Speaker 3>We didn't know, but like the first four videos, uh yeah,

0:32:12.560 --> 0:32:13.000
<v Speaker 3>I think yeah.

0:32:13.040 --> 0:32:15.280
<v Speaker 4>So like the protecting act in the method man video,

0:32:15.880 --> 0:32:16.360
<v Speaker 4>and that's.

0:32:16.200 --> 0:32:18.640
<v Speaker 3>Why he was ghost face because nobody saw him. It

0:32:18.680 --> 0:32:20.800
<v Speaker 3>was like a whole big thing like who is he?

0:32:21.040 --> 0:32:23.560
<v Speaker 2>Right? And it was the mistique when nobody knows who

0:32:23.560 --> 0:32:26.600
<v Speaker 2>you are, you have a certain mistique to you. So,

0:32:26.720 --> 0:32:29.080
<v Speaker 2>like he said, lady said, when he my face got revealed,

0:32:29.120 --> 0:32:31.760
<v Speaker 2>the game got real. So for the first for the

0:32:31.800 --> 0:32:33.360
<v Speaker 2>first four videos.

0:32:33.480 --> 0:32:35.920
<v Speaker 3>Nobody knew who he what he looked like because he

0:32:35.960 --> 0:32:38.520
<v Speaker 3>had like a visor like on like he it was

0:32:38.600 --> 0:32:39.400
<v Speaker 3>it was interesting.

0:32:39.480 --> 0:32:43.520
<v Speaker 2>So you have a certain mistique to you when people

0:32:43.560 --> 0:32:45.640
<v Speaker 2>don't know who you are, they just hear about your name.

0:32:45.800 --> 0:32:48.760
<v Speaker 3>And that's true, like and that is the original form

0:32:48.800 --> 0:32:50.720
<v Speaker 3>of graffiti. Like in the seventies and ages, especially in

0:32:50.720 --> 0:32:53.200
<v Speaker 3>New York City, it was like we put up this art.

0:32:53.880 --> 0:32:55.600
<v Speaker 3>You'll know us by our tags. You don't even have

0:32:55.640 --> 0:32:57.520
<v Speaker 3>to know who we are. You just know like, oh, like,

0:32:57.760 --> 0:32:59.880
<v Speaker 3>oh that's the new guy. He's hot. Look at this

0:33:00.200 --> 0:33:01.560
<v Speaker 3>that he did. Look at the train that he just

0:33:01.800 --> 0:33:03.600
<v Speaker 3>he that piece that he put on that train, or

0:33:03.840 --> 0:33:06.040
<v Speaker 3>look at that building over there that he tagged. And

0:33:06.080 --> 0:33:07.880
<v Speaker 3>it was like that's what you became known for. You're

0:33:08.000 --> 0:33:10.520
<v Speaker 3>tagged me and the art that you put up. And

0:33:10.520 --> 0:33:12.640
<v Speaker 3>then that gets frowned upon in New York City and

0:33:12.800 --> 0:33:16.960
<v Speaker 3>cops cracked down and they erased him, and people are

0:33:16.960 --> 0:33:22.480
<v Speaker 3>getting locked up for graffiti. And twenty years, thirty years later,

0:33:22.600 --> 0:33:23.200
<v Speaker 3>we have this.

0:33:23.640 --> 0:33:25.480
<v Speaker 2>And that's what I said. I said this last time,

0:33:25.480 --> 0:33:26.840
<v Speaker 2>and I fully believe that I said this on the

0:33:26.880 --> 0:33:30.000
<v Speaker 2>first episode. You can't stop energy, right, So KRAFFII, I

0:33:30.040 --> 0:33:31.840
<v Speaker 2>don't know if graffiti started with hip hop, but I'm

0:33:31.840 --> 0:33:33.320
<v Speaker 2>just gonna say it did because I think it did.

0:33:33.560 --> 0:33:34.480
<v Speaker 4>That's part of hip hop.

0:33:34.600 --> 0:33:39.640
<v Speaker 2>So that started in the South Bronx. But people spray

0:33:39.680 --> 0:33:43.560
<v Speaker 2>painting trains, spray painting walls, spray and like you said,

0:33:43.560 --> 0:33:46.440
<v Speaker 2>it was frowned upon, it was looked at like it

0:33:46.480 --> 0:33:48.880
<v Speaker 2>was defacing the city. They had a whole campaign to

0:33:48.920 --> 0:33:54.240
<v Speaker 2>stomp it out. I go to Germany, Thailand, Asia, spray

0:33:54.240 --> 0:33:58.880
<v Speaker 2>painting everywhere, murals, murals. Yeah, and now Bankski is pretty

0:33:58.960 --> 0:33:59.720
<v Speaker 2>much a spray painter.

0:34:00.880 --> 0:34:05.040
<v Speaker 3>Is currently the most famous artist in the world, the

0:34:05.040 --> 0:34:07.240
<v Speaker 3>most notorious artist in the world.

0:34:07.320 --> 0:34:08.759
<v Speaker 2>He's doing what.

0:34:10.320 --> 0:34:13.279
<v Speaker 3>Kids, just regular sixteen fifteen year old kids was doing

0:34:13.600 --> 0:34:16.240
<v Speaker 3>in nineteen eighty six, and they weren't looked at as artists.

0:34:16.320 --> 0:34:18.040
<v Speaker 3>They were just regular kids with a spray can.

0:34:18.239 --> 0:34:20.960
<v Speaker 4>They were looked as delinquents, misfits.

0:34:21.040 --> 0:34:24.960
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so that's how it all. It's interesting. But Bankski,

0:34:25.120 --> 0:34:27.719
<v Speaker 2>we gotta talk about the stunt that he pulled.

0:34:27.880 --> 0:34:30.040
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, So the two biggest, I would argue, the two

0:34:30.040 --> 0:34:35.440
<v Speaker 3>biggest stories in art were the Bankski shredded painting. Like

0:34:35.520 --> 0:34:39.799
<v Speaker 3>this was like a miraculous stunt. So he puts a

0:34:39.840 --> 0:34:44.319
<v Speaker 3>painting up for auction, but he's no. He actually had

0:34:44.320 --> 0:34:47.759
<v Speaker 3>a painting that he never wanted to be auction and

0:34:48.239 --> 0:34:50.279
<v Speaker 3>he put it in this case.

0:34:51.560 --> 0:34:53.760
<v Speaker 4>That was very thick, and people were like, this feels

0:34:53.760 --> 0:34:54.279
<v Speaker 4>pretty funny.

0:34:54.280 --> 0:34:57.600
<v Speaker 3>He's very heavy, and it went up for auction, right,

0:34:57.640 --> 0:34:58.880
<v Speaker 3>that was the one thing he said he did not

0:34:58.880 --> 0:35:01.360
<v Speaker 3>want to happen with the pay of bogs and so

0:35:01.400 --> 0:35:02.680
<v Speaker 3>they bidden on it, bidden on it.

0:35:02.800 --> 0:35:06.040
<v Speaker 4>And remember one point four million. One point four.

0:35:05.880 --> 0:35:08.719
<v Speaker 3>Million, And as soon as that gavel went down and

0:35:08.719 --> 0:35:10.560
<v Speaker 3>they were trying to take the painting off the wall,

0:35:12.239 --> 0:35:15.160
<v Speaker 3>the painting starts, it starts to shred. So he has

0:35:15.200 --> 0:35:18.360
<v Speaker 3>a shredder. He has a shred up built in the

0:35:18.360 --> 0:35:19.080
<v Speaker 3>frame of the paint.

0:35:19.120 --> 0:35:21.600
<v Speaker 2>As soon as the person paid one point four million

0:35:21.680 --> 0:35:25.160
<v Speaker 2>and money got transferred, they're about to give her or

0:35:25.320 --> 0:35:28.480
<v Speaker 2>him the painting as they're giving as they're trying to

0:35:28.640 --> 0:35:30.920
<v Speaker 2>take it off the wall, it starts to shred like

0:35:30.960 --> 0:35:33.640
<v Speaker 2>a paper shred. They were actually the interesting thing about

0:35:33.680 --> 0:35:36.319
<v Speaker 2>so he must have had somebody on the inside.

0:35:37.440 --> 0:35:40.400
<v Speaker 3>Mission impossibly some theories that like maybe he was in

0:35:40.440 --> 0:35:43.880
<v Speaker 3>that room, or they pressed the butt somebody right after

0:35:44.200 --> 0:35:46.160
<v Speaker 3>it was done. The interesting thing about it is.

0:35:46.960 --> 0:35:48.760
<v Speaker 2>The interesting thing about it is that they were able

0:35:48.760 --> 0:35:51.839
<v Speaker 2>to stop it because it only shredded halfway. So it's

0:35:51.920 --> 0:35:57.760
<v Speaker 2>halfway shredded. It's sold for one point four million. Now

0:35:57.880 --> 0:36:00.279
<v Speaker 2>I know where you're going. It's worth two million. It's

0:36:00.320 --> 0:36:04.239
<v Speaker 2>actually worth more before than before. That's how art is

0:36:04.280 --> 0:36:07.160
<v Speaker 2>so crazy, because now that's our because that's our Yeah, like.

0:36:07.080 --> 0:36:12.160
<v Speaker 3>About half shredded Banksky painting, the whole story behind it.

0:36:12.160 --> 0:36:14.840
<v Speaker 3>It won up six hundred thousand the moment plus the

0:36:14.880 --> 0:36:16.480
<v Speaker 3>painting added to the value of it.

0:36:18.160 --> 0:36:18.640
<v Speaker 4>Unbelieving.

0:36:19.000 --> 0:36:24.040
<v Speaker 3>I mean, that's the second story. Is jay Z and

0:36:24.040 --> 0:36:27.279
<v Speaker 3>Beyonce right them shooting that apeshient video and the Louver

0:36:27.840 --> 0:36:30.880
<v Speaker 3>what that did? They said, record numbers for attendants at

0:36:30.880 --> 0:36:34.279
<v Speaker 3>the Louver, and the museum itself said thank you to

0:36:34.360 --> 0:36:36.480
<v Speaker 3>them for bringing attention to that.

0:36:36.600 --> 0:36:41.120
<v Speaker 2>So the Louver is the most popular famous art museum

0:36:41.200 --> 0:36:45.080
<v Speaker 2>in the world in Paris. The Pyramid building. Yeah, the

0:36:45.120 --> 0:36:46.040
<v Speaker 2>glass pyramid.

0:36:45.800 --> 0:36:46.480
<v Speaker 4>Glass pyramid.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, So the tendance where Mona Lisa is right, So

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<v Speaker 3>like the part in the video where they're standing in

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<v Speaker 3>front of it. I remember he said, like I'm sleeping.

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<v Speaker 3>That's in the mount of day Mona Lisa. Like we

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<v Speaker 3>are art, Like that's Mona Lisa, but we're the focus here.

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<v Speaker 2>So they do it. They threw a video in the in.

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<v Speaker 3>The loop, Yeah, and tendance goes up by twenty five

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<v Speaker 3>percent immediately after. You can't discount that, like just because

0:37:09.680 --> 0:37:12.839
<v Speaker 3>they shot like that doesn't even happen, Like how many

0:37:12.880 --> 0:37:15.000
<v Speaker 3>videos have even been shot in there, Like there's certain

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<v Speaker 3>pinions they don't even allow you to even film in there,

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<v Speaker 3>and they got the rights to do the entire video

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<v Speaker 3>in there. Have to close it down and look what

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<v Speaker 3>it does for the museum.

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<v Speaker 2>Culture culture. Yeah, man, all right, all right, okay, so

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<v Speaker 2>final words.

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<v Speaker 3>So you man, you.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, final word man. Like I said, I just think

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<v Speaker 2>that a lot of times we have to fully understand

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<v Speaker 2>that what we're doing has value. Right, We don't want

0:37:47.719 --> 0:37:49.920
<v Speaker 2>to talk over anybody's head. We want to talk directly

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<v Speaker 2>to the people. And it's important to realize and that's

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<v Speaker 2>why we wanted to just talk about that art situation

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<v Speaker 2>is that no matter which you're doing, is valuable, right,

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<v Speaker 2>So it's important to a understand your worth. Never let

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<v Speaker 2>somebody devalue your worth. And also, you know, have a

0:38:12.160 --> 0:38:16.200
<v Speaker 2>broader sense of this is cool, but this is bigger

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<v Speaker 2>than just my community. This is bigger than like this

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<v Speaker 2>is for the world like this, because like I said,

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<v Speaker 2>what we're doing is effecting the world, right, So it's

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<v Speaker 2>important to understand.

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<v Speaker 4>That in the sense like we're using the culture to teach.

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<v Speaker 3>Culture that but I'm just saying when I say we'm

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<v Speaker 3>talking about everybody, our culture is world culture absolutely. I

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<v Speaker 3>think somebody said that, like the number one export of

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<v Speaker 3>America is culture, right, Like we affect so many different

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<v Speaker 3>places based on the things we.

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<v Speaker 2>Do exactly exactly. So know your worth, that's my final word.

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<v Speaker 4>Know your worth absolutely.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, guys, thank you for rocking with us. We

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<v Speaker 2>see y'all next week.

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